Trump Floats Accepting 600,000 Chinese Student Visas, MAGA Uproar w/ David "Nino" Rodriguez

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Timcast IRL Summary

Episode Title: Trump Floats Accepting 600,000 Chinese Student Visas, MAGA Uproar w/ David "Nino" Rodriguez
Date: August 27, 2025
Host: Jack Posobiec (filling in for Tim Pool)
Guests: David "Nino" Rodriguez, Alad Eliyahu, Tate Brown, Phil Labonte

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the firestorm triggered by former President Trump suggesting the US could accept 600,000 Chinese student visas. The panel explores MAGA backlash, national security concerns, immigration hypocrisy, university economics, and the broader implications for American values. They also discuss viral stories including the "Psycho Stew" wrestling incident, a Scottish teen arrested for self-defense, and the philosophical battle over free speech and flag burning. Throughout, the guests provide insider perspectives, personal stories, and frank, often contentious debate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Call for 600,000 Chinese Student Visas

[13:09–41:24]

• Background:
  Trump’s floated idea to allow 600,000 Chinese student visas led to a strong MAGA backlash, coming amid news that a Chinese doctoral student was charged with stealing confidential US government research.

• Context & Reaction:

  • Current number of Chinese students in the US is about 300,000; Trump’s proposal would double it.
  • Outrage from conservative figures such as Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lara Loomer.
  • White House has not clarified if this is more than rhetorical.
  • Universities financially incentivized: foreign students typically pay much higher tuition, supporting university budgets.

• Major Concerns Raised:

  • National Security:
    • Students could be potential conduits for espionage.
      Phil Labonte (19:04): "The Chinese are actual adversaries. So allowing 600,000 Chinese nationals into the United States is a terrible idea."
  • Ethical Hypocrisy:
    • Contrast with harsh deportations of long-standing Latino immigrants. David Rodriguez (17:57, 19:13): “I’m watching people get kicked out of their homes… We’re allowing 600,000 Chinese in? That’s just so hypocritical to me.”
  • Economic and Academia Arguments:
    • Chinese students contribute billions; some see this as soft power or a way to offset trade deficits. Alad Eliyahu (20:59): “Chinese students contributed $14 billion to the US economy [according to NBC] … It’s a huge subsidy to these colleges.”

• Counterpoints:

  • Some panelists argue the students are generally wealthy, Western-facing, and might be a soft-power win for the US.
  • Others insist security risks outweigh benefits, since the CCP can pressure students’ families back home. Labonte (37:16): "If they have family back home ... Xi Jinping has no problem doing that. He will put his thumb on your grandma if you don’t listen.”
  • Posobiec maintains the American people should come first, criticizing elites profiting while ordinary US students lose out.

• Speculation:

  • Is this another “deal-making” Trump trial balloon, not actual policy? Posobiec (43:44): “I do think that he’ll throw out things like this when he’s in negotiating mode.”
  • Public opinion is largely against the proposal, and even the pro-Trump panelists disagree with it.

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2. Immigration Enforcement and Hypocrisy

[25:07–33:28]

• ICE’s Role:

  • ICE director interviewed (off-air) about deportation statistics; administration is tight-lipped about true numbers.
  • Noted changes in border behavior – less travel/movement among undocumented communities due to increased enforcement and fear.

• Strategies Discussed:

  • Tougher penalties for landlords and employers who aid illegal immigrants, to encourage self-deportation by making it harder to live under the radar. Labonte (26:28): “The federal government should come down on people that employ illegals really hard and people that rent housing to illegals…"

  • Real ID rollout seen as a quiet way to tighten legal residency requirements without high-profile raids.

• Humanitarian Concerns:

  • Acknowledgment of the dire situations many immigrants are escaping; some panelists stress empathy alongside enforcement.

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3. The ‘Psycho Stew’ Wrestling Assault

[50:09–61:04]

• Incident:

  • Independent wrestler “Psycho Stew” was violently assaulted during a supposedly scripted show by his opponent, Rampage Jackson’s son, after being goaded by online chat.
  • David Rodriguez, boxing veteran, calls it “attempted murder,” highlighting the difference between premeditated real violence and staged “works” in combat sports.

• Support:

  • Community rapidly raised over $100,000 for Stew’s recovery.
  • Discussion of liability, especially if WWE was tangentially connected.

• Reflection:
  Rodriguez (53:08): “What I saw in that video is premeditated… the guy was unsuspecting. It looked like he tried to kill the man.”

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4. Scotland Teen Charged for Self-Defense with Weapons

[63:07–70:21]

• Viral Video:

  • A Scottish teenager threatened by male migrants brandishes an axe and knife, then is the one arrested and charged for possessing weapons.

• Broader Context:

  • Panel discusses rapid demographic changes in UK/Europe due to migration, loss of social trust, and increasing criminality.
  • Takes note of governments’ suppression of dissent and focus on prosecuting natives who defend themselves.

  Phil Labonte (70:40): “Why are there no men that will stand up and say this is unacceptable?”

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5. Free Speech: Flag Burning, “Word Crimes,” and American Values

[89:53–116:35]

• Shiloh Hendricks Case:

  • Woman charged with disorderly conduct after viral video shows her using a racial slur in a playground dispute. Raises questions about consistency in defending free speech on right and left.

• Flag Burning EO Controversy:

  • Trump’s executive order criminalizing flag burning at protests is debated heatedly.
  • Position 1 (Posobiec, Tate): Burning the flag isn’t protected speech, is a Marxist reinterpretation of the First Amendment, and undermines social cohesion. Posobiec (105:15): “It is absolutely a Marxist twisting of the First Amendment to claim that expression is speech.”
  • Position 2 (Labonte): Burning the flag is odious, but protecting free speech means defending even offensive acts. Labonte (103:15): “You can't burn the flag, full stop. I don't have to justify this.” Labonte (104:16): “Just because it is legal doesn't mean it's okay. I detest anybody [who does it], but you have the right.”
  • Others note Trump’s political savvy in using the issue to bait Democrats.

• What Makes an American?

  • Heated exchange on whether being “American” is merely legal citizenship or also cultural/historic identity.
    Posobiec argues there's a core historical American culture; Labonte and Alad argue for civic nationalism—embracing American values regardless of ancestry.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The Chinese are actual adversaries. So allowing 600,000 Chinese nationals into the United States is a terrible idea.”
  — Phil Labonte, [19:04]

• “I’m watching people get kicked out of their homes...and then you’re going to let in 600,000 Chinese students? That’s just so hypocritical to me.”
  — David "Nino" Rodriguez, [17:57]

• "I think Trump is preparing for something big, man… He’s like a war general. He sees what’s coming."
  — David "Nino" Rodriguez, [105:12]

• “What I saw in that video is premeditated. He did it without the guy knowing. It looked like he tried to kill the man.”
  — Rodriguez, on the wrestling incident, [53:08]

• "Why are there no men that will stand up and say this is unacceptable?"
  — Phil Labonte, on the Scottish self-defense case, [70:40]

• “It is absolutely a Marxist twisting of the First Amendment to claim that expression is speech.”
  — Posobiec, [105:15]

• "Just because it is legal doesn't mean it's okay. I detest anybody [who burns the flag], but you have the right."
  — Phil Labonte, [104:16]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Trump's 600,000 Chinese Visas and MAGA Backlash:
  [13:09–41:24]
• Immigration Policy and Enforcement Debate:
  [25:07–33:28]
• ‘Psycho Stew’ Wrestling Incident:
  [50:09–61:04]
• Scotland Teen, Self-Defense & Immigration in Europe:
  [63:07–70:21]
• Free Speech: Flag Burning and Race Speech Crime:
  [89:53–116:35]
• What Makes an American Discussion:
  [123:20–130:58]

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Tone & Style

The dialogue is sharp, unscripted, and sometimes combative—true to the show’s “uncensored” credo. The humor is irreverent, with running gags ("Cracker Barrel," "real cracker"), while serious moments are underpinned by guests’ real-world experience and personal stories.

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Conclusion

A packed episode tackling hot-button issues: Trump’s China student visa trial balloon, immigration’s double standard, the consequences of online mob justice, and the eternal wrestling over the soul of American identity and liberty. Fierce debate and strong personalities, with open acknowledgment of disagreement—even among Trump supporters—provide listeners with a clear sense of the divides both within and outside MAGA circles.

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For more from David “Nino” Rodriguez:

• Nino’s Corner TV (YouTube, Rumble, Twitter/X: @NinoBoxer)

Panel:

• Alad Eliyahu (White House Correspondent),
• Tate Brown,
• Phil Labonte (“All That Remains”)

Host:
Jack Posobiec (“Human Events Daily”)

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“Let the guy cook… we should let Trump cook here. Guys, let’s not freak out.”
— Alad Eliyahu, [45:35]

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End of Summary

Transcript

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All right, folks, we're back. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard another edition of the POSO cast. Jack Posobic, host of Human Events Daily, here live, filling in for the great Tim Pool. Tim is on the men. And, you know, I see all these people. The conspiracy theory out there is that Tim Pool is dead. No, Tim is not dead. Like Paul McCartney who totally died all those years ago during the Beatles. No, Tim is not dead at all. As we know, Phil has him tied up in the. The basement. Isn't that right, Phil?

[C]

I need. I can neither confirm nor deny that.

[A]

Yeah, see, there we go. Look, look, all I'm. Guys, all I'm saying is Phil, he's. He's. He's kind of a big guy and he's good with knots. So, I mean, you know, you know. Anyway, look, we got a huge show tonight. We've got so much going on. There's a ton happening out in the world. You know, I want to get in. Of course. Obviously, we've got to rock this first story. We kind of touched on it yesterday regarding the 600,000 Chinese student visas. This comment that was made has absolutely set the Internet on fire. There is a MAGA backlash and uproar, if you will, to this. And it comes on the same day that a Chinese student, a doctoral student, has been accused of stealing confidential US Government research in the United States. So it's a crazy story. We're going to get into that. We're going to get into, of course, charges on Shiloh Hendricks, which is a massive story out of Rochester, Minnesota. We're also going to get into this. This viral video, insane video out of Scotland of a young girl having to defend herself with battle axes against a couple of migrants, her and her sister, by the way, Cracker Barrel, going back to the old logo. Shout out to all the people who. Shout out to all the haters from yesterday. It worked. All right. It worked. Shout out to Tate on that, by the way, who chimped out like an absolute champ for pretty much a week straight. It was.

[D]

It was rough. Yeah.

[A]

You do realize that you have to only eat Cracker Barrel for a year now.

[D]

Yeah, I know what I signed up for.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[C]

The pancakes are great.

[A]

It's. Pancakes are great. Yeah. We got lunch. We got a bunch of other good stories. So we're getting into it all tonight. We're absolutely getting into it all. I want to go in. Today's show is brought to you by Cast Brew Coffee. Oh, my gosh. If you're running around, if Tim Pool suddenly gets sick and you've got to fill in for him on a moment's notice and be at the White House on the same day for the longest cabinet meeting in history, one of our other guests is going to talk about that as well. That co host, I should say. Then you need. You need to feel yourself with Cast Brew Coffee. Yesterday we Talked about the 1776 Signature Blend, the Josie special, but you got the birthday blend, America's birthday as well, fourth of July. You've got the Casparu regular mix. This is the best stuff. I've been drinking it pretty much nonstop since I started doing the show, and I literally can't sleep anymore. Not even my. My pillow can get me down. That's how powerful Cast Brew Coffee is. So you guys, you got to check it out. Make sure you go Cast Brew. Another piece that I wanted to get to. And I. I'm remiss. I am remiss for not knowing this yesterday. We should have checked yesterday in the member section, we were talking about Psycho Stu, better known as Stuart Smith, the boxer in this hyper viral video that's going out with Rampage Jackson's son, Roger Jackson. We didn't realize that Psycho Sue. I didn't realize this. That he had to go fund me. So, guys, let's go in here and do everything we can. Let's let it. Let's donate as much as possible to Psycho Stew. Serge, get the link out so that people can see it. I think you just go to GoFundMe. You could support Psycho Stew. It's spelled S y K O S T U want to get into that story a little bit? Shout out to Mr. Beast. By the way, top donation of $10,000 that's gone in, but only 3,000 people have donated thus far. It's at about. It just broke $100,000. So it's at $112,000 right now. Let' we can for this guy because this is, you know, it's a horrible thing to see, but it's absolutely something that deserves to be helped with. But we have got a great show tonight and we have a guest who's going to talk about that and possibly a lot more. Because, folks, I believe. First time on Tim cast, right?

[E]

First time.

[A]

First time. First time. David Nino Rodriguez.

[E]

I've had you on my show and.

[A]

You'Ve been on my show. Right. So this, it's. Yeah, we did the show last year, so it's not our first show, but it's our first. The first time on Tim show.

[E]

Absolutely. Yes. I'm kind of upset. I wanted to see Tim, not that I did not want to see you. Yeah, I was kind of looking forward to see Tim.

[A]

Tim is absolutely alive, by the way. I. I can't believe that people would think that Tim is. Is not dead. He's definitely not dead.

[C]

Tim's fine, totally fine in the basement.

[A]

But tell people a little about yourself and, and, and, you know, kind of how you guys started doing this.

[E]

Well, yeah, I mean, I just kind of transferred arenas. I've been a fighter my whole life. 10 heavyweight contender, champion boxer. 36, 0 at my peak.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Had two run ins with death. In 2011, I got knifed. Why? I overdosed on drugs. All right. I was a partier. I was. I was juggling with both extremes, Many extremes. Died twice in 20, 2011. Flatlined once for overdosing on drugs. The other time, I took a knife to the neck coming out of a bar. They slit my throat and I almost died there. Came back and didn't have a successful comeback after that. And my life changed. My whole life got nuked. So they didn't take my life. They took my career. And I had. I was forced to pivot and do something else. So I had to reinvent myself. I could have stayed in boxing. I could have been a trainer. I could have done all that stuff. But I just felt compelled to go into the. The world of not. I would like to say I kind of follow the deep state war on the politics going on behind the scenes, that's what I follow. And that's really where that just attracted to me that. Would you say I recognize strategy.

[A]

So would you say that those experiences that you went through, you know, led you to see those same kind of patterns happening?

[E]

100%. Yeah. Yes, yes. I can see strategy. I can see patterns. And, and I just fell into it. And my podcast took off. It's Nino's Corner tv and it really exploded on the scene. And I'm still going, man, I'm still watching everything. And I think it's just absolutely, for me, it's, it's, it's like, it's unbelievable to see how Trump is, quote, unquote, beating the odds where he's at right now and seeing everything that's happening. But I see strategy, I see brilliance, and I see an operation.

[A]

No, we did great. I remember doing Nino's Corner last year when we were doing the Push for the Unhumans book and we had a great interview, so.

[E]

Absolutely.

[A]

Let's have another one tonight.

[E]

People love you, man.

[A]

Ah, they're good. But let's, let's, let's go around the horn, and here's a guy that I have not seen in, in ages. Talad, what's up, man?

[F]

Good evening, everyone.

[A]

Why are we both so tan today?

[F]

I don't know. I didn't think could get that dark.

[A]

Oh, I, I get even darker than this, brother. I get even darker. People. People will mistake me for Raja Jackson by the end, so.

[F]

Good evening, everybody. My name's A Lot Eliyahu. I'm the White House correspondent here at Tim Cast. Tate, what's up?

[D]

What's up, everybody? Tate Brown here holding it down. So you like that's a new catchphrase. I think it's going to work.

[A]

Yeah. Filled in for telling people that it's a new catchphrase.

[F]

Make it worse. Yeah.

[D]

To really hammer it home. And we had a morning show. We had a great interview today with Congressman Tim Burchett. You got to go check that out. It was excellent. Yeah. So go check that out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[A]

Let's get into it. Yeah. So a lot. And I, by the way, we were at the White House pretty much all day today. They were doing a media row. And, but, but the, the. And God bless them. But the reason we were out there so long is because they were having this Cabinet meeting, which, which they said, okay, they're going to have the ca. And then members of the Cabinet will come out and you guys can interview them and it's going to be great. And so, you know, you know, do we set up. We bring cameras, we do the whole thing. And they're like, okay, we're pretty sure the meeting's going to be maybe hour and a half, maybe two hours max. Okay, maybe two and a half or maybe three. It went three and a half hours, so a lot. And I. We spent almost four hours out there.

[F]

At least it was on the South Lawn. It's a good place to be left out to dry. So we were chilling on the South Lawn. Chilling like villains out there overlooking the Oval Office. Trump did peep out. President Trump did peep out at one point. But I had a great interview with Director CIA. Not CIA. What is it? Ice? Director Lyons. I think you also had a. Yeah.

[A]

I got to sit down with him.

[F]

And so we'll put that out soon. But it's. Anything at the White House, I feel like is a great opportunity.

[A]

No, it's incredible. And there's something that I feel that this White House is never going to get credit for. And they're doing so. Even more than the first term. I mean, they're so accessible. They're really so accessible. And they let you talk to the directors on. And the secretaries on a very one to one basis. And they're so open. And I would. I would absolutely encourage anybody who's out there. Nino, got to get you in there, man.

[E]

Can I just say something? I forgot to tell. You know, you gotta go. I don't want. I will go, but I just want to say one thing. I don't want people thinking that you're all sitting here with a degenerate. And I just. I gotta catch myself. I've been six years sober.

[A]

There you go, man. There you go. That's great.

[E]

I gotta make sure. I gotta clear the room here. Like, I gotta clear the air. I don't want people be like, damn, they got a degenerate.

[F]

I'll take the degenerate title. I'm not sober yet. So.

[A]

Six years. No, Tate, I learned my lesson. Wait, Tate was about to ask you where you're going tonight.

[D]

West Virginia Knights.

[F]

I was like, I don't know if he's the right person to go to a bar with.

[D]

It's Tuesday night.

[A]

Come on.

[D]

8Am Somewhere.

[E]

We don't like quitters.

[C]

I've been in a touring metal band for 20 years.

[E]

You see that all? Listen, all right, cool.

[C]

You're not the only guy.

[A]

You're not only, Only one knife.

[E]

Pussy.

[A]

I just, I just go to Cracker Barrel. So, you know, that's, that's pretty much my. That's pretty. I'm in the rocking chair. They actually, they actually based the, the logo of Cracker Barrel off of me because I'm just the guy who's out there with the barrel.

[D]

Hashtag real cracker.

[A]

Hashtag real cracker. But no, folks, we've got to get into this because we. So we mentioned this story yesterday. It had come up, and, you know, I think over the last 24 hours, it's absolutely just taken over the Internet and a huge firestorm. Trump says the US would accept 600,000 Chinese students, sparking uproar among some conservatives. They talk about Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene. This is NBC article, conservative influencer Lara Loomer blasting the idea. By the way, they keep putting out that, you know, they have the. NBC's got this picture up of President Trump and they're talking about the Chinese students. Of course, this is the president of South Korea. It is not the president of China in the picture. Now, of course, now, to be fair, to be fair, you know, they're, they're doing that because that's the meeting he was in when he made the comments. But at the same time, like, if I was at Human Events or post Millennial, if I were doing graphics, I'd probably say, I just, I feel like it doesn't make sense to include him in this picture because the story's not about him.

[E]

I can understand the mistake.

[A]

Oh, no, no, don't say it. But then wait, but wait, wait. Plot twist. Wait, plot twist. The. The author is Kimmy Yam. Oh, wow. So sounds. Sounds like an Asian author. So plot twist. You know, maybe we're cool. Maybe we're cool. Inside job. Exactly.

[C]

Didn't the president of South Korea float the idea of Trump Hotel in North Korea today?

[A]

He mentioned it. Yeah. In the meeting. He mentions it and he says, I hope we have the idea. I hope. Well, so this new party of, of South Korea is a very pro unification party, and they're, they have been accused of a lot of ties to the ccp. So they have a totally different line on North Korea than they, than the other party, which is much more conservative, much more combative, much more anti ccp, anti communist. And so there's, you know, that's one of the things he's saying. Well, you know, we want denuclearization, but we also want the Trump Tower and we want this and we want that and unification and, and wouldn't it great if Beijing. Wait, wait, what, what did you say? Yeah, you know, so he'd probably be totally cool with the, the Chinese students. But let's get into this because this is what I asked and I was, I was checking this. So 600,000 Chinese student visas. I'm against that for sure. I don't, I don't think we need this. I don't. And we talked about this last night. But, you know, it's, they, they pay full freight. This is a huge cash cow for the universities. So just right off its bat, if it helps the universities, it's, it's a money something that I want.

[E]

Money.

[A]

100. It's a money thing.

[E]

I mean, I mean, and this comes on of that student that was giving away secrets. Correct?

[A]

Right. So I was just going to mention that. So, so that happens on the same day. But I wanted to get into. And just let's, let's put the scope of this real quick here. What is the current number of Chinese students? So the current number is just under 300,000. So it's about 300,000 that are here. This is a doubling of the Chinese student population in the United States or would be a doubling, which is also, by the way, there's so many Republicans that have been fighting against this. Marco Rubio has talked about this, Secretary of State, so many other policymakers. Now, what's interesting is the White House has not responded to comments on this. And so let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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[A]

Look, you know, there's been a lot of times where President Trump has said something specifically regarding visas in one of these meetings where it doesn't really turn into policy from the White House. I'm wondering if this is going to be one of those conversations. One of those times, but we still have to talk about it. So. Yeah, Nina, you were mentioning this the. The other side of it, where. Where there was a guy who was a kid who was just, I believe, charged. Right? He was charged. So he's actually been charged today down in Texas for attempting to steal research funded by the US Government and taking it back to his native China. This is the first time this has happened. Nina.

[E]

I come from the border, right? I'm from El Paso, Texas. I'm watching people get kicked out of their homes. Abuelo's grandfathers that have families here that have, you know, kids and then that are Americanized that speak only English, and then they have grandkids that speak only English, and they're getting ready to deport the grandpa, you know, and then you're going to let in 600,000 Chinese students? That's just so hypocritical to me. I just see. I. From an ethical standpoint, standpoint, I see something completely wrong with this, especially if they're the ones giving out the secrets. You know what I mean? I mean, what's the abuelo doing in El Paso? You know, that. That. That's just trying to live his life. I mean, I think there's. We've got to come to a middle range here to where we can. We can. Can argue the point of certain people staying. Like. Like a grandfather who's here, who's been here for 30 something years. And look, I. I see you shake, shaking your head, and I. With it. But when you come to this, when you. When you bring this up, you're gonna let 6,000, 600,000 Chinese in. I mean, from a humanitarian point of view, I. I'm just. I'm just saying I'm. I'm with you on this.

[C]

The Chinese. That the Chinese are actual adversaries. So allowing 600,000 Chinese nationals into the United States is a terrible.

[E]

I'm saying I'm against it. Yeah, yeah, I'm against it. I'm totally against it. Totally against it. But I'm saying, like, what do you tell the grandfather? You're gonna allow them in, but what are you telling the abuelo who's sitting at home with his kids and grandkids? You gotta go back to Mex. He's been here 30 years, he's done nothing.

[F]

Did he come in here illegally?

[E]

Correct. And.

[F]

Well, that's the wrong thing.

[E]

I get it.

[F]

And on paper, these guys would be legal.

[E]

And, dude, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. I'm just. How do you argue that when you're.

[F]

Well, that's how I'd argue it.

[A]

I mean, for the.

[C]

I wouldn't be making the argument because I would never accept Nationals.

[E]

I'm on your side. Just letting you guys know.

[A]

I mean, I've got to say, in that case, why not both, right?

[E]

That's.

[F]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

So you understand what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah. How about go home? Or in Chinese, Huijia.

[F]

I'm a little bit ambivalent on the issue. And I want to steel, man, Trump's case here. He did actually have more recent comments on this where he said, I told President Xi that we're honored to have his students here. And now with that, we'll check them. We'll be very careful to see who it is on the concerns of them potentially being spies or stealing information. So it's a couple of things at hand here that we should explore further. You mentioned it again. The universities, these foreign students pay full tuition, which is usually roughly at least double what somebody who's in state would pay for a lot of these schools and a lot of these.

[A]

So we actually have in the article, I've got a number for you just to add. To add to the steel man, I guess Chinese students contributed in 2023. So is it. What's the source for this, though? NBC is claiming it, but there's no source. So NBC claims there's no source, but they're claiming that the Chinese students contributed 14 billion to the US economy. So, but, so here's the thing. I'd like to know where that comes from.

[F]

So whatever they contribute to tuition is one thing. Then there's like the total economic pict of what else they contribute here. Because when people are here is, you know, they need to shop, they need to eat food, they need to buy things, and that's what they do. So they contribute to the economy. So there's like that monetary value. It's a huge subsidy to these colleges. I went to the University at Buffalo. It felt like half the college were these Chinese and Indian students. But without them, these colleges wouldn't be able to survive. There's something to say about the soft power aspect of this. While I think we have something like.

[A]

This is what Secretary Lutnick has been arguing.

[F]

Yeah, that there's a cultural aspect to this most people don't want to go to. There is some people who shop around schools all around planet Earth, but the best schools generally that foreign students want to go to are schools in the United States. And the cultural impact of some of your best and brightest from foreign countries coming here in ingratiating yourself with American values and then taking that home. I think there's something to say about that soft power. President Xi's daughter famously, I believe, went to Harvard for X amount of years. And the influence there could be untold. So I think we should also think of this in terms of the trade deficit that we have with China. This is essentially a trade item that could help balance that trade imbalance as well. And I think that's why they're going for a doubling. So while I do have concerns about the security aspect, I think these are rich Chinese people coming here with fat wallets. And I think these are probably the most Western of Chinese people to begin with who would even consider coming here. I know you spent some time in China yourself, about two years. Yeah. You know, what do you think about Trump using this as kind of in the aspect of trade? Not too concerned. Using this as a tool to kind of try to leverage with President Xi?

[A]

I think that it would, in a vacuum. Vacuum. You know, maybe I would say, you know, that that's a good point. But, you know, in the past 20, 30 years since the Globalist project has been set up, our relationship with China has been absolutely toxic for this country. And it's, it's, it is deprived so many people of their jobs in terms of the manufacturing in turn, that's been outsourced at the blue collar level. And what we're talking about here is depriving people of a pathway to a better life. If you would have had the ability to make it into one of these schools. But you're, you know, you're some kid from the Midwest and so you're applying maybe for scholarships or whatever it is, and you can't get one because they want that spot to go to some scion of the CCP elite that is able to pay full freight. So they're going to come in and by the, you know, to your point about the CCP's, you know, sending their kids here. Johnson's grandson went to UPenn like 20 years ago. And so this, you know, this has been going on for quite some time. We haven't seen any shift in the ccp. And if Anything. They've become more authoritarian. In Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao were more technocratic, whereas Xi Jinping is much more authoritarian and certainly has been since he's taken power in 2012 and has remained and perhaps will be the Chinese, you know, the chairman of the party until long after we're all dead, because he's going to be keeping himself immortal with Chinese power. And so, so if anything, we've become like China since this globalist relationship has begun. And so, you know, when I look at something like this again, I still say what is best for the American people first.

[E]

See, that's what I have a problem with. I mean, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab has said that the model for the world is China, the CCP, China. So here we are, letting in 600,000 of them. I just, I'm sorry, I just, I see a lot of things wrong with it, and I think it's very hypocritical, critical. And I, and I'm, you know, I, I'm a Trump supporter all the way. People don't get it wrong. I am. But I'm going to call things out when I see, when I don't agree with it, just like everyone here. I'm, I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with me on this, on this one. Right. And all I was saying was about the, the Mexican grandpa at home who's done nothing wrong then, you know, doing it for some and not all of them. You know what I mean? You can't just pick and choose. To me, I mean, I, you keep saying it's just such a very. No, listen, hold on. I do agree that you got to come here legally, no doubt about it. But, I mean, if we're really going to get the, we're looking at the real numbers. We're looking at what, 30, 40 million illegals here in America.

[A]

So, funny enough, a lot. And I both interviewed the ICE director today, and you asked him, you asked him about that number as well. Right. He couldn't even give us a solid number on how many are here.

[F]

I asked him how many have they detained and deported so far and what are their goals? I don't think anybody in the Trump cabinet's trying to get ahead of Trump himself, though. And they don't want to have those numbers held against them. So I don't think they're trying to be firm. Can I say something?

[E]

I've noticed.

[A]

But you'd think that as I imagine, though, as ice, they probably, you know, have a, A number. Right. Obviously, they know how many have been deported. But I think there's probably a number that they have that's. That's sort of a working operational number. But, you know, for reasons like that and all, and also legal reasons, they're probably not putting it out publicly. But I think they do have.

[E]

But. But I will tell you, though, know that they are striking fear into them because they're not moving around like they should. When I go to the airports from El Paso to San Antonio, where from flying, it used to be packed to the gills.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And now, dude, there's like 80 to 100 seats open and flights are like, they're. They're cutting down the flights now.

[A]

They're not flying.

[E]

Yeah, they're not moving. They're like in a frozen state right now. So. But the word is on the street, you know, in El Paso, everyone's like, they're just gonna wait it out to. Till. Till Trump is gone. They're pretty confident that. Yeah, that's really what they're saying.

[F]

Dude, my homies nanny, they don't let her go to the park because they're scared she's going to.

[C]

Get to your point. That's why, like, my opinion is the United. The federal government or not. Well, the federal government should come down on people that employ illegals really hard and people that rent housing to illegals 100%. Because if you, if they're. If their option or their decision is to just. That's what they're doing, hide. They're not gonna leave. So the next thing, because I don't. I've said this a bunch of times, I don't want to see ICE agents kicking in people's doors, because first of all, it's bad for. It's bad for just optics. Right? Like, nobody wants to see grandma or grandpa getting drug out of their bed by dudes in body armor. That's just not something that anyone wants to see on the Internet. It upsets Karen. Karen gets all mad, especially she's at.

[E]

Home Depot or at Walmart.

[C]

It's up in people's faces. Then you have. Then you have to put Karen in flex cuffs, and then that's a whole disaster. So you don't want to do that to anybody at all. So make it hard for them to stay so that way you don't have to have police interactions with them.

[E]

Well, that's the real id, right? I mean, that's the first part of this, right? The real id, I would imagine.

[C]

I mean, maybe, but, like, that's why, like I said, I want to see. I Want to see people that are actually getting, losing their, their businesses, if they're hiring people and losing property.

[A]

Just to answer his point that I've, I've had it told to me because when real ID was coming around and the Trump administration has sort of been, you know, they didn't come up with the blade. It's been on the books for, you know, years. But they are sort of administering this rollout. And I asked around and you know, sort of on background, you know, what's the deal? Like this, this thing is kind of unpopular. Why are we, you know, why are we still doing it? And that was sort of the response that I had was, you know, they do think it's something where, look, if you're an illegal, there's no way you're walking in and you have to present all those documents to get a basic ID to get on planes, to go. To go.

[E]

You'll be taken down right there and you're out. Yeah.

[A]

So they know they can't get them. So again, it's part of that idea of ratcheting things up.

[E]

But nobody's self deporting, you know, he's giving that option like, well, if you self deport, they're not going to do that.

[A]

What do you think about. What do you think about this, this thought that people are saying, you know, some kind of stipend to self deport.

[E]

So, like, they're not, I'm telling you right now, I'm in El Paso. I know what I'm hearing. Nobody's self deporting, nobody's taking, I don't see their poor self deporting. No. Because it took so long to get here and they're just going to wait it out. They really believe Trump is going to be gone. Like, they believe everyone's going to be fed up with them. You got Gavin Newsom running his mouth, Beto o'. Rourke, I mean, they're like the cheerleaders amping these people up. It's so wrong. It's a humanitarian crisis. All this stuff. They're going to wait it up out. They're gonna wait it out. And, and I don't see anything happening in El Paso that's any different. I know that there have been some tunnels here and there that have been intercepted and stuff like that, but really from everyone that I know of, everyone's waiting it out.

[D]

Don't you think if they just crank up taxes on remittances, that would force a lot?

[E]

Sure, but these people, they, I mean, they're, they're living Just under the radar, bro. Just scraping by. And they're gonna stay here and just hunker down.

[A]

Down.

[D]

Yeah. That's what I'm just curious is what would be the incentive for them to stay? If remittances or taxes on remittances are.

[F]

Sky high, maybe they could do a workaround with just plain using cash.

[C]

You could use cryptocurrencies.

[E]

But it's still better here.

[F]

Cash.

[E]

It's still better here than where they came from. Where they came from, there's murder, there's crime, violent crime. Families are getting killed. The gang problem is still out of control. Third World problems are Third World problems, you know, like coming here. It's still better even if they have to be homeless. So that's their argument. They don't want to go back to that. It's a terrible life. It's a terrible life.

[A]

So we've got to think of some other ways to ratchet this up. You got to heat the frog. You got to heat the pot so that the frog jumps out. Yeah.

[C]

That's why you have to make it illegal to rent to them so they can't find homes.

[E]

I agree.

[C]

Make it illegal. Well, not make it illegal, but punish the people that rent to them and.

[A]

Push the people that give people. Punish the landlords.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Punish the people that employ them as well. Well, you know, that's the only way. And this is something that. I've talked about this a bunch of times, but this is something Democrats say all the time. Oh, well, how come you don't go after the business owners? How come you don't go after. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, go after them. Everything I believe in all.

[E]

I'm with you.

[A]

I'm with you. This is something that I did actually ask to the ICE director earlier today. We're going to be releasing this in a little while, but. Sorry, you could see the whole thing on Human Events Daily. But I am going to mention what he said. So it. He. You know, I said this. I said, you know, I've noticed the way they're targeting some of these raids. It seems that when the businesses are getting raided, it seems like you guys are actually going after the business owners even more than just the workers. Yeah. And. And like, yeah, maybe some of the workers go. Will get rolled up. But I said, are you targeting immigration fraud? And they said, let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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[A]

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[A]

Absolutely. He said he confirmed. I was surprised that he confirmed that because I haven't seen any, you know, operational statement out there saying that they're, you know, making that the priority for ICE enforcement. But he said we're absolutely looking at, for these flagrant, you know, and it could be a supermarket, it could be a slaughterhouse, whatever it might be that it's. They know the places, right? They know the places that are doing the hiring. They know the places that are putting out the fake IDs, the stolen Social Security numbers. This idea, oh, they don't access benefits. Cut the crap. Like, we know they're accessing benefits. It's not hard to get a fake Social Security number. And then to your point, right, then their kids, who, if they're born here, they get to go to school, they get to access all that. So they sort of have the indirect access to the welfare net that we had, the broader social safety net that we have in this country. And so it's a total joke, which I think ABC was saying it the other day, that they're so upset that illegal aliens are having their kids, are being worried about pulled out of school. I said, wait a minute, so you admit that they're accessing public benefits even though you.

[E]

I will say that I've noticed the schools have less kids. Kids, man. Like when I'm going through the certain, certain streets to get to my house, this one, it used to get flooded with kids and now it's like this, like nothing. Like hardly any kids coming out of the school now. So I know I do just watching this, like take place.

[A]

Have you done any content down there? Have you, like, gone around and filmed and stuff?

[E]

I went down to the, to the border to show what a Joke. It is. And before the. Before Trump, Really?

[A]

I mean, since. Since he trouble has come back.

[E]

Yeah. I went down to the border and I was going to show the razor that was there that Biden put in. Yeah, the cheap razor that was there. And it was a joke. Joke. And I showed up and, man, military guys came out immediately, like, within two minutes and put guns to me. And I was like, yo, wow. I was like, this is good.

[A]

Good. You all passed.

[E]

I was just checking.

[A]

You did that recently.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. This was not three months ago. Okay, about three months ago. And I got there and they're like, yeah, man, you can't be here. This and that. And I'm like, I'm out, dude. Hey, I'm a Trump supporter.

[A]

I'm a Trump Operational Control of the border, dude.

[E]

And you know what? There was a dude in a camouflage tent. I mean, they're all sitting out there, and I didn't even see the guy guy. And they got me, so I would anything.

[A]

And you were on the U.S. i was going that way. Yeah, you're on the U.S. side.

[E]

They got me real quick and they were asking me all kinds of questions like, yo, I was like, man, I was just doing content for Instagram and I'm. I'm out, guys. All good. You all passed. You all passed. Figure.

[A]

And was that how. Now, how close to town was that?

[E]

That was. You know where Paisano is? You know where? Exactly where we're. The kind of. Where we. We build the wall. That area kind of lake down past that. Yeah, just right off Paisano. The street. Paisano, that used to be the most dangerous stretch of freeway in America.

[A]

I remember them saying that when I was there.

[E]

Yeah, it was bad. They used to. They used to. So before the wall was there, they used to go put rocks or two by fours and nails, and cars would hit them, and then the kids from the other side would run. Could do a carjacking, kill people. I mean, it was brutal.

[A]

So they were doing carjack. They were coming from Mexico doing the carjacking.

[E]

Then they would rob the train.

[A]

So they drive the car back or just like, get.

[E]

They would just get the crap out of the car and shoot somebody and run back. And it was that.

[F]

That easy.

[E]

It happened all the time.

[A]

Absolutely insane. Anything else you guys want to add about the Chinese students or is there anyone who want to make Damien A lot gave the best steelman. But. But when it comes to it, look, you know, people. People will say, you know, oh, MAGA is always in lockstep. With Trump, but I just don't think that's the case. I think you can point to issue after issue where that hasn't been shown.

[F]

I think this is indicative of a larger anti immigrant, both legal and illegal trend that we're seeing on the right and then both in the elements of moderates, independents and the left as well.

[C]

I mean, we talked about the reason though, right? Like, so the, the idea that they're bringing people into the country so that way they can count them in the census. These people tend to, you know, concentrate in urban areas. That means that you're more than likely gonna have the urban areas get more people in the census. That means more representatives in Congress, most likely Democrat representatives. This is the reason why I don't want immigrants is because it's taking voting power away from the American people. It has nothing to do with who they are. Now when it comes to the Chinese, I think that they're a threat because I know that China is an adversary of the United States. I don't have the, the false notion that they're like just a rival or we're gonna work together on something. China doesn't look at the United States that way, and the United States cannot look, look at China that way because China doesn't look at us that way. So the thing that I don't want, I want to see is no Chinese students coming in unless they're. And actually no, not at all. Like none, because they're, they're a national security threat.

[F]

You know, I think we do need to make a distinction between the CCP and the regular Chinese person.

[C]

There is no distinction.

[F]

I think there is.

[C]

China can call, China can call on people and say, look, you do this and if you don't, don't. We're going to, we're going to put.

[F]

Your family who hate the Chinese government.

[C]

They don't. I don't think that it matters because they'll, they'll go after their family in China.

[A]

Well, no, and certainly, by the way, there's obviously a distinction, but when we're talking about a lot of these colleges that are Ivy League, you do have to have the money to be able to afford this. So typically you are getting elites and.

[C]

You have to be a member of the ccp, you know, or you have to have family that are members of the ccp. And the fact, like I said, it doesn't matter what the individual thinks. It doesn't matter because. Because if they have family back home that they love in China, then that's where they apply the Pressure. Xi Jinping has no problem doing that. He will put his thumb on your grandma if you don't listen. He will put his thumb on your brother, your mom, whatever, if you don't. You know, I agree.

[E]

I think it's.

[A]

Lock you in your. He'll lock you in your home.

[E]

It's 100% a national security threat.

[F]

I don't, I don't think that they need to have these students here on visas, although you could argue the most important place to have them would be in the universities. But if they want, they could. If you want to have a sophisticated Chinese spy from the ccp, you could come into the country illegally. I'm sure they'd be. It would be very easy for them to get fake documents or pretend they're another Chinese person.

[C]

You've heard stories about them coming in through, coming across the Darien Gap, and.

[F]

Sure. Well, that's why I'm kind of arguing that them coming here on student visas wouldn't be the biggest threat. If they wanted to come in as spies, they could do so through the southern border and then infiltrate with their.

[A]

When you're talking about stealing research, this, this is. I mean, it's all about placement and access. So when you're talking about spycraft. So if you're, if you're, your P and A is already at, you know, MIT or one of these research laboratories, I mean, these universities are where the research is happening and in many cases, of course, being done with government funding or perhaps on proprietary, you know, you know, any kind of technology. Obviously, we've talked a lot about the, the biotech transfer between the US and China, so. So it's clearly part of a toxic relationship that we have with China, and that's why I'm against it.

[D]

Well, they get busted in Germany and the UK and France for this all the time, too. This is a problem in universities across the world.

[A]

And the embassy or the consulate will put pressure on the students because what they'll do is, here's how it works. They'll track you, right? They'll track the students, and then they'll figure out, okay, what students do we have in, what classes are they in, what major are they in? And then they'll line that up with whatever their administrative state security priorities are. So your priority intelligence requirements, or pir. So we would have. In the, in the ic in the US They've got theirs as well. And so suddenly someone who's in the Science and technology department says, hey, you've got this guy and he's making his way towards here, have him go for those files. So it's not like, it's not like someone is a spy from the start. It's more like they're already here. Then we find out, hey, they've got access to something we want. Now we apply the pressure.

[C]

Yeah, they're just their property of the ccp, regardless, you know, whether, like.

[E]

But I'm, I'm a little confused on something. Is this something he just fleetingly said, or is this something that he actually held a conference with and said, well, I'm going to do this?

[F]

I repeated it multiple times. And he's been asked about it in the past and said that he doesn't want to get rid of the 300,000. He's always used strong rhetoric about against that, against expelling them. I also think this is worth mentioning that if you zoom out for a second geopolitically, what this really speaks to is a failure in diplomacy. This is one of the, like, not last, but it's going down the path of a failing diplomacy with China. If we're thinking that we need to not have these students be here, obviously the Trump administration thinks differently.

[A]

I think, I think that when it comes down to it, I just go back to, and to your point about the failure of diplomacy. The average person looks at it as a completely unbalanced relationship that we have with China. So it's this huge inverse, or it seems that they get all of the gain and what do we get, like cheap TVs and trinkets and things. And, and it's just something that ultimately we can see that China is getting fat and happy off of this relationship. And by the way, prior to the tariffs, which have been largely successful, and the Chinese have eaten that, by the way, that the, you know, you could say, what are we really gaining in terms of wealth in this country? And so, so, you know, just Simon had thrown something out earlier and said, you know, hey, why not? If we're going to do this, let's, let's tariff the students. Let's tear up the students. 200. I said, you know what, double it. 400.

[F]

They're already paying full tuition compared to. Nobody else is paying full tuition.

[A]

Right. But that money's going, but that money goes directly to the college.

[F]

Sure. I mean, we end up subsidizing these colleges, too. So there. It's an additional subsidization.

[A]

Right. So it's a subsidiary for the college. So the, I guess the idea being, why not have something to actually benefits the country directly?

[F]

Well, it's keeping them afloat would be the argument. Like a certain, I think I've read like 15% of these colleges wouldn't be able to thrive without them. But I had one last. I wanted to.

[A]

I don't mind if a lot of. I'm not going to get a lot of defense for a lot of the colleges in this country.

[F]

Well, my alma mater, the University of Buffalo would probably fail if, if they didn't have all these foreign students.

[A]

Maybe.

[F]

One last tidbit that I wanted to add here though is that I think this is a really easy thing for nationalists on both sides to fear monger on. And I'm guilty of that of myself. If I was a Chinese Nationalist, I'd say, no, I don't want to send our best and brightest over to the United States to become useful idiots and Chinese spies for the United States. Oh, we're going to send them there four years, they're going to get brainwashed into all this bullshit liberal ideology. They're going to start believing trans and gay bullshit and they're going to come bring that back here because that's what they're learning over there. So I feel like it's easy to fear monger in that way. Like because in China they're like, oh, this is. We went through the century of humiliation and now you're going to continue supporting the. Those Western dogs who oppressed us for all these centuries and you're going to support them economically. That's where you're going to go spend all your money and you're paying top dollar to go to these schools. So I think both sides have an argument to fear monger around here. Having a more exchange is known to.

[A]

Hyper again in a vacuum. I think that I get what you're saying, that an exchange is good. I'd love to get to that point in the relationship at some point. I just don't agree there. I just really don't think we're there. I think we're at a point where it's a total. It's like, it's like we, we, you know, it's like the United States is, is, is like your buddy who's in a toxic relationship with this girl and he's totally just, just simping all of her, the codependent relationship totally simping out. And we're like, dude, she treats you like crap. She's always taking your stuff. She doesn't let you do what you want. Look what's happened to your life.

[E]

I have a few friends like that.

[A]

Exactly right.

[F]

We all it begs the question, just won't listen. What do you think the President's thinking here? Is then if not saying he doesn't want to cancel these visas, he wants to double it. What is the President thinking here?

[C]

He wants a good relationship with Xi.

[D]

Yeah, he's negotiating.

[E]

He's all about the deal. Right. Let's make a deal.

[A]

I always kind of say this whenever he's in deal making mode. I do think that he'll throw out things like this, that. And people can say, like, here's Posobuk, he's doing his paid thing. No, no, no. Like, seriously, I think he does throw out things when he's in negotiating mode. Code. And obviously we know he's working on various trade deals with China. The tariffs have been a huge piece of this as well. So I, I think I would kind of chalk it up to you, sort of the Trump negotiations.

[E]

I think it's important how he said this. I didn't see the video on this. I don't know if he just said it fleetingly, like I could entertain that, or was he like, no, we're gonna do this. Like, this is something I want to do. So it all depends on how he stated this. I think if he was just kind of like, yeah, that's interesting. I might think about.

[A]

I think public opinion is, is generally against it. And I, I'm against it.

[E]

100.

[D]

We saw the AP last week. They're like, we have 55 million visa holders. And then they see, oh, 600,000.

[E]

Right, right.

[D]

So you're just like, I don't care how. If they're donating me a million dollars. Well, that should be nice. But it's like we're keeping the universities afloat. It's like, we got 55 million to get out. What's 600?

[F]

Maybe this is the backdoor way to drain China. They're already in a population crash. We're taking an extra half a million of their youngest.

[D]

Australia can.

[C]

We're not. I don't, I, I just reject the idea that we're taking them. Like bringing them here does not mean they become American.

[F]

We're going to indoctrinate them.

[C]

No, we're not.

[A]

It just doesn't happen.

[E]

They do that on their own.

[A]

Show me the example of that, though. That's, that's not what I mean.

[F]

There's a ton of Chinese dissidents in the United States. We have a ton of these different groups.

[A]

They typically go back. They typically go back and they work from China and they get. And they're so focused on money.

[F]

And so there's like, Tibetan refugees, there's fallen Gong refugees that come here. There's people from Hong Kong that also come here.

[D]

And I think these are not going to nyu.

[F]

They do go to these colleges. And I've seen them protest on these colleges before. I've seen three.

[A]

Hong Kong might be a small number, but it's nowhere near the majority.

[F]

Well, yeah, they're also not allowed to protest at all in China. So they're coming from a background and culture that, you know, struggles to express themselves or vote or participate political. I just, I think Trump has something up his sleeve here and we should let the guy cook. We should let Trump cook here. Guys, let's not freak out.

[A]

So this, this is the argument, though, that was made about opening up to China from the 1980s. And, and this, you know, the Margaret, this is something, I've always been critical of Margaret Thatcher and her government in the handover of Hong Kong because it kept being this, this refrain over and over that the more we, the more exposure that we have to China, the West has to China, the more democratic they will become. And protest groups. And you can go back 40 years and this is. They were saying the exact same thing. And what have we seen? Hong Kong promised 50 years of the special, you know, two system, one government, two systems. And, and Xi Jinping just threw that out the window completely. Then it's been a total crackdown. China hasn't become more democratic. You know, if anything, we have become less, far, far less. And I would argue that our exposure and I would see this when I was over there, you know, brief, brief. Briefly, let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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[A]

It was at the Shanghai American Chamber of Commerce and, and then also worked for another firm doing business there and you know, trying to help American businesses come into the Chinese market. And what you would see though was that American business leaders and American politicians would come over, over and they'd see the CCP system and this gets what you're saying about the China model and they would say oh this is great. So if I want, if I want a Maglev, if I want a high speed rail like we had one in Shanghai, they have one that kind of goes from the airport almost to downtown and they, they just build it. You say, well what a, what about the people who live in the way? What about them? You just, you just get rid of them. You tear down those neighborhoods, you just blast them out and then they can go wherever. And so it to your point, right? In a system where there is no political, you know, real participation if they're in a system where they don't have any rights to be able to defend. I just that it becomes intoxicating for Western leaders to see that system and say how can we get some of that as well?

[E]

Yeah, but this is going to give the illegal immigrants a lot of ammunition if he does this man, for them to protest and fight back and, and feel righteous and whether state wanting to stay here, I mean we have to.

[A]

Go and they can come.

[E]

No, no, I'm just saying it's going to give them a lot of, that's.

[A]

That'S what they're going to say.

[E]

They're right. They're going to say what the hell is this? It's going to look very hypocritical. It's going to look, it's going to look bad on Trump.

[F]

But we already have other legal immigrants that, that come on through different visas.

[D]

Hey, if we can radicalize Latin America on China being a geopolitical adversary, I mean that's a win Win issue.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Maybe that's.

[A]

I do want to. I do want to keep it going, to be cognizant of the clock. And so I want to get into this, the. The Psycho sue story. So we. We talked about this in the third hour yesterday in the members hour. But Nino, I was thinking that you probably had some takes on this, you know, given that you come from a fight background. I mean, look, you know, it's. It's like they say, you talked. And now the pro wrestling is obviously very different from what you did.

[E]

Pro wrestling's fake. Okay, it's scripted, but. Yeah, okay, it's scripted, but. I mean, like, when I was in the dressroom getting ready to fight, nobody told me who was gonna win right there to kill each other. This. He was not expecting that beat down. It was premeditated. There was a video of Jackson's son Rampage. Jackson son talking about. I'm going to. Have you seen the video where he's talking. I'm going to go up there and hit this guy, man. I'm going to tag this guy. He's saying all these. All these things. It was premeditated. He was not going along with any kind of script. He wasn't going to fake drop him and then fake slap him. He. If you see the punches land on this guy's cranium, these are intentionally. He was there to kill that guy.

[F]

Dude.

[E]

Like, that was like five, six.

[A]

We're now up to $515,000. So $3,000 extra. Just since we. We mentioned it a couple of minutes ago.

[E]

I. I think that's a murder charge, bro. Honestly, attempted murder. I. I just, I'm so, so, so walk us. Especially premeditated.

[A]

Walk us through if. If someone's in that situation. You know, you've been boxing out. There's. There's no boxing gloves on in this, so gloves are off. Literally this. He's down. He's bashing her in the head. What. What happens in that situation physically?

[E]

Well, he went red, right? He went totally red. He lost his mind. He was. Whatever. There was a. Something happened before that where he smashed a can on his head. He apologized. They became friends again. They were talking.

[A]

It was a prop. It was like.

[E]

It was a prop, right? It was like an act. It was an act.

[A]

It was a planned act. Yeah.

[E]

This guy took it so personal and it hurt his ego so bad. That fragile ego he has that he went after him and what he did was uncalled for, man.

[A]

And then.

[E]

Plus, the guy wasn't expecting it. You can go I've seen that. Seen this happen. You've probably seen it happen. Happen to. Where guys go up to other guys in a. It's called stealing their soul or snatching their soul. Where you go up to a guy in a club and bam, whack him, knock him out. He's out snoring and you just disappear into the crowd. That happened all the time. He kind of did that to this guy. The guy was not expecting this. He got picked up, slammed. And then when he's there, pretending to be like he's out, then he starts getting punches delivered to his face. That's uncalled for. And it was premeditated. And there's proof that it was premeditated by him talking about it on the phone to whoever he was talking to. Someone was recording him say all this. So to me, how is this.

[A]

This is.

[E]

This could be like an attempted murder.

[A]

Charge, that kind of damage. What. What do you say it's attempted murder. Is it. How likely is it that he could have died?

[E]

Oh, so easy. It's the hair, man. Like, I mean, I'm surprised he didn't with those. The blows he took to the head. Honestly. I've seen guys die in sparring, get hit wrong and bat, they're out. Ambulance comes, are gone. I've seen it happen in the gym. And Those are with 16 ounces gloves, sometimes 18 ounces. They're heavyweights giving. But. But I mean, I've seen that happen in, in, in. When I knocked out Owen Beck, he was out for like almost 30 minutes when I knocked him out with a left hook. And he was bleeding out of his eyes and his ears.

[F]

Jesus.

[E]

And I thought I took a knee. The crowd got silent. I was scared to death. And I think that also affected my career, to be quite honest. But that was intentional. What he did was intentional. He went in there and he dropped that guy on his head and. And it looked like he tried to kill him.

[A]

Now to me, he's using his training.

[E]

Yes, yes. And. And the guy was unexp. Who was not expecting that. So I gotta. I gotta call it what it is. And I think everyone has seen it. We. And. And it looks like he's trying to kill the man. Just because it's with your fists. That's still doing a lot of damage.

[A]

Now, by the way. We're up to 116,500. I just refreshed and so people. So donations are pouring in. This is awesome. I love this.

[E]

So. So is he in a coma or.

[A]

No. I thought they said he was awake.

[C]

Is he awake? Okay, my bad.

[A]

I thought they said. Let me. I'm just scrolling down. Sometimes they poke put updates on here. I mean we can, we can find out what we can. He is, by the way, he's a veteran of the United States army and this is crazy. So he was using wrestling as an outlet to deal with his ptsd. Now one thing that I want to say now, I mentioned this yesterday on the third hour, was that there was an affiliation between this independent promotion and the wwe. So this is a situation, I gotta say say they could potentially be looking at a lawsuit, a huge lawsuit from Psycho Stew here if he wanted to pursue that route. Because, you know, I'm sure you got to sign waivers. I'm going to start. So like when you were boxing, did you ever have to sign waiver with the promoter before they put the, put it on and say, hey.

[E]

And half the contracts I signed, I didn't even know was it. Yeah, no wonder I got screwed. But I mean, I mean, no, I mean it was, there was times at weigh ins, honestly, that I, that I, I remember the tension was so bad, all of a sudden we just started throwing punches. Like, you just, you can't predict it, it just happens, you know, but, but I never looked at a guy and I was like premeditating, like, I'm gonna just go up and just, you know, it's just sometimes you're, you're staring at each other and then they can't parch you. And the next thing you know, you're like, well, we got to take this to the next level because I'm not backing down, you're not backing down, it's on. And then we just start fighting. That happens. It's just the nature of the beast, it's the nature of the sport. It's just what it is. But what I saw in that video is premeditated. He did it without the guy knowing. The guy didn't know that he was gonna come get slammed. Maybe he knew.

[A]

So what you're saying is, what you're saying, it's not like one of those weigh in situations. No tension raises up because he was planning to do that before he got right.

[E]

It was premeditated. The guy was unsuspecting at his back turned to him. He probably knew he was gonna go, okay, he's gonna come in, in the ring, pick me up, slam me. And then, you know, whatever he trusted.

[A]

In him, he actually, whatever the, the set of moves was.

[E]

So he had a trust factor in that kid. Like, okay, I know he's probably gonna come pick me up, slam me, and then, you know, whatever move. We decided to do that he does.

[A]

A body slam it, right?

[E]

And then we're gonna script whatever happens after that. But he didn't. Bam, bam, bam, bam. And started going to town on the guy. Come on, man. I mean, that's coward. To me, that means coward. I don't know. I. I don't know how you all look at it, but to me, that's. That's a coward move.

[C]

There was a lot of. If I understand correctly, there was a lot of people in his chat after the initial bit, I think.

[A]

Yeah. This is what we were talking about last night, right?

[C]

They were calling him names, saying that he was, you know, calling him all kinds of names and. And basically.

[A]

No. No, Raja's. Yeah, right. Because he's. He's a big kick streamer. Yeah. And they were saying last night that. That's what. Andrew Wilson was here last night, and what he was saying was that. I feel like Tim, all of a sudden here, because I'm explaining. I'm explaining drama. That. Don't worry, Tim. I got you, buddy. That. That his. His chat was egging him on to do it. Because they're saying, how you going to let him punk you like that? How you going to let him get you like that? You got. Got, you know, he. He smashed that beer into your head. You're just going to let him do that? How old is he? And he's 20s?

[D]

Yeah, he's super young.

[A]

Yeah, I say he's 20, something like that. You're in your 20s, Pete?

[D]

Yeah, it's even younger than me.

[E]

So he's like 20, 21, maybe 22. Is he. I don't know. I'm just gonna say 25.

[A]

25, yes.

[E]

You know, to me, that's still a kid.

[A]

Ah, Tate's like. He's super young. He's.

[D]

I also feel like twitch streamers. Kick streamers. This is just the concentration of the world's lowest impulse control. Like, every single person on there is just like a ticking time bomb. So it's actually kind of a miracle. We don't see stuff.

[A]

Someone in the chat here was saying. I. I was one of the people on his chat.

[E]

No.

[F]

I don't think he was charged with.

[E]

You had more respect. Not yet, but wouldn't you had more respect?

[A]

I believe they said. I believe they said under investigation. Where did. Where did this.

[E]

Phil?

[A]

Where did this happen again?

[C]

I'm not sure where it happened.

[A]

Was it. Was it. Was it Was it? I thought it was. It was Knox Pro. Was it Knoxville? Yeah.

[C]

No, I don't think it's Knoxville, but it was the knock. It's not.

[A]

It'd be crazy. It was Knox county with Glenn Jacobs.

[E]

But I. I would. Had more respect for the kid if you would have like, challenged him, grabbed the mic and said, let's go right now, me and you. And then Mono Imano. Then go, then. Okay, but maybe.

[A]

Maybe that's kind of the whole point of it. Right? But like, he did it.

[E]

So unsuspecting.

[A]

Then what else is lapd? Yeah.

[F]

So I'm no tough guy.

[A]

What was that one?

[C]

Yeah, it was in la.

[F]

I'm no tough guy, obviously, but there's no honor here in cheap shotting someone. I think if you're a man about it or, I don't know, there's some sort of fighter's honor of like, let's actually fight. You're not trying to hit people when they're unconscious? I. I don't think so. I mean, all of his hits were dirty as far as I'm concerned. 100 and I don't really know what else to say. I hope he gets charged it.

[C]

There's the. I saw Rampage's response, and considering Raj is his kid, he actually had a really good response. Like, he's like, I'm not going to condemn my kid, but he was dead. But like, you know, I would have. I love him. And I. Well, he was. He was like, I'm. He's deaf. He was definitely wrong in doing it. So he was, he was clear about that. But it was, you know, like, I mean, you know, you're a father, you don't want to sit there.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

You'd're not going to get on the Internet. You're not going to get on the Internet and beat up on you.

[A]

It depends on what you mean by condemn. Right, Right. If that, if that were my son, it would have locked him down to the police station and said, you need to. You need to face for what you did. I agree 100%. That's, that's, that's. As a father, right, is you have to own up to your mistakes. So if you, if you, if you did something right, number one, obviously you owe an apology, but number two, you still owe. You have to pay a debt. So a debt must be paid here. Whether that's to society, whether that's to the man directly, like, Rampage needs to.

[F]

Give him a good old. That's.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

Good old weapon.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Treat me with the switch.

[A]

I. I would. I would take. I would take my kid to the woodshed, you know. You know, maybe. Maybe. Maybe, you know, metaphysically over. Over something. Not. Not like that. But no way. No, it's. That's something where. And by the way, I wouldn't be tweeting about it, you know, like, if something like this had happened, I mean, God forbid. But, I mean, I got to say, you know, it just. It feels to me like this is something that it's. It does feel like bad parenting. It does feel like bad parenting.

[F]

To underscore, I think a part of this that we didn't address was the biggest issue I think at hand here was his ego control. He couldn't control his ego. He feel like someone had one up on him, someone had embarrassed him and he needed to get revenge. He wasn't able to swallow his pride. And I think that could be a lesson for other people to check your ego. And, you know, having your ego all wound up could get you in some deep.

[C]

You'd think that he understood that. He's in the wrestling world. This is a job.

[F]

Yeah, like.

[C]

And that. That's what I mean. Like, the. The bit was a job. It was after the fact.

[F]

He was like, I'm not gonna get got anymore.

[E]

Nobody's gonna instigated that. The kids on his social media, egging him on. So he was probably looking at all these comments going like, oh, man, I gotta do something. I can't go down.

[C]

It's an ego problem to know what was going on.

[A]

Like, he.

[C]

You're supposed to go into that scenario, understanding how it goes. This is a. He was a work. And that's a wrestling term I'm using. It was a work. He was supposed to take the hit, then he was going to get him back in the ring. He would knock the guy down. And then those hits aren't supposed to be actually real, but he went.

[A]

Which, by the way, if he's the one. Because, you know, when you look at it, Psycho Stu in the. In the angle, right in the narrative. Narrative, he's the one that kind of cold cocks him with the beer outside. So it's almost like he was the one taking the cheap shot. So I don't know exactly.

[C]

That was part of the work.

[A]

Right.

[E]

That's why. That was part of the scripting.

[A]

What I'm saying is it. If he was the one doing that, then it would have been setting up Raja to kind of be the baby face. Right? To setting him up.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Good guy in that. Where he's the heel. So he's the villain. And then Raja is going to defeat the villain in the ring, like, correct what we're trying to accomplish.

[E]

But he took it massive personally and went out there for a vendetta, tried to kill the man right now.

[A]

And it's. And it's. It's.

[E]

And I do believe he never been punished by the law for this. I really do. I don't see how you walk from.

[F]

This, by the way. I think stuff like this happens every day, every week on a smaller scale in dumb bar fights and people fighting outside of convenience stores and people shooting each other because one person passes him by, steps on his shoes, calls, calls him a name. People's sensitive egos and fragile egos leads to, unfortunately, a lot of senseless violence in our country. Country. And you should try your best to avoid it. Like, this is dumb, sad, unfortunate stuff that's happening in our country. One guy has brain damage, and this other guy's likely going to jail.

[A]

Jason Whitlock talks about this a lot. He calls it. I think he calls it this culture where, oh, you dissed me. So I've got a. Yeah, I've got a. I've got a response.

[E]

Get you back, one of you.

[A]

I was a diss. You did that on purpose. You stepped up. You stepped on my shoes. Now I gotta. Now I've gotta. You know, I've gotta route, whatever. You took my beanie, right? Yeah, yeah. You know, Tim should have messed him up real. But it was. That was an agreement. That was.

[E]

Think even me being a fighter, that I. I would re. Be reactionary like that. I'm not. Like, now that I've. And especially now that I've gotten older and I'm done with boxing, I have no. I. Like, if I can walk away from a fight or any kind of altercation, I'm walking. When you get older, you see. I've just seen too much stuff happen with my friends and people I know.

[F]

And people to yourself at.

[E]

Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[F]

I didn't want to.

[C]

I don't know.

[E]

You started off.

[F]

You almost died at the bar fight.

[A]

Or something, by the way.

[F]

That was a lesson. I don't know. I don't know what happened. I don't know.

[A]

It was all just on the way to the studio. Yeah, that was all. It was all just earlier I was out here. He went out with T. Oh, dude. Yeah.

[D]

These West Virginia knights, man, they get a little wild. Wacky and wild. These cracker barrels getting wild.

[A]

By the way, Tate, can I see your knife? Yeah.

[D]

Just don't worry, it's British approved.

[A]

Oh, okay. All right. Well, that and hey, segue here because we're talking about British approved knives lives. This, this the one of the other stories that I've just seen everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

[D]

That was good.

[A]

I want to. We actually was a good swag. I'm getting better at this. We don't have a ton of details in terms of names, in terms of everything that's going on, but this was something that was tearing up the interwebs yesterday. And EV magazine, the great ladies over at EV magazine have put this together. 14 year old girl from Scotland charged after carrying weapons. Now that's, that's interesting headline because if you look at the video, you perhaps might come away with another idea about who it is who should be charged, who is the aggressor and who is the one doing something. Do we have Serge? Do we have the actual video? Can we just play this? If I hit that, will it just play? Okay. All right. I'm literally just driving now because this is. All right, I'll take it back. So you got. This is in Scotland. Two girls. I think one is. We know one is 14. I think one's the young. Is the older one 14?

[F]

Older one?

[C]

Yeah, the older. She's the one holding her back.

[A]

Why are you so.

[E]

The night show.

[A]

The night.

[F]

Should.

[A]

Knife. That's it. That's it.

[E]

She has an axe and a knife.

[C]

That's the I'm not getting raped face.

[D]

Her inventory is loaded.

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[A]

Get.

[E]

Yeah, who is she yelling At.

[A]

So she's yelling at. And I. Is this it? No, no. There's another angle of it where it's basically two migrants that are coming at her and she's trying to. Again, we're told that she is trying to get away from them and pushes back on this. It brings up a lot of stories about the grooming gang, things that have gone up before. Kim, not seeing those pictures. Serge, see if you can find the other angle of it. But, but going back to the, going back to the article, she has now been charged. So the police get called. She has now been charged for brandishing weapons, rather a bladed weapon, by the way, this happened in Dundee and Tate, you know a little bit about that. So she's been charged for brandishing weapons. Weapons to try to defend herselves against. Oh, sorry, people who were. Oh, there it is. There it is.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

There's other guys here.

[C]

I don't know how much assume I can get.

[E]

But they've already assaulted her, right? They've already.

[A]

We don't know. We don't know. So I think she's trying to prevent them, whatever they were doing. She's clearly saying, get away from me.

[E]

Right. I mean.

[D]

Well, Scotland, Scotland's a weird experiment because England, England's obviously had this Boris wave of migrants, but they have what, 50 million people? Scotland has six. So it's like you flood. No, it's 5.5 million. So it's like it doesn't take that many migrants to completely change the look of a city. In which case Dundee, which is already a pretty rough place, you introduce just a couple hundred migrants, it's really going to destroy the social trust of the city. And that's what you're saying here.

[A]

So you've been there, though?

[D]

Yeah, I've been to Dundee ago. Last time I was there, it would have been last spring. So the spring of the previous year.

[A]

Oh, it's not long ago at all.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So very recently. And you were saying, you were saying you, you saw some migrants, but not as much as in other places.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, compared to like Glasgow and Edinburgh, you don't see as much like Dundee is still a very Scottish place, but it's a more working class town. They already have drug, drug issues, unfortunately. And like I said, the, the migrants coming to Scotland, that's, that's even after the Boris wave, it doesn't take very many to destabilize places like Dundee. These are not very, very large cities at all.

[C]

The first time I ever went to Scotland was, I think in 2004, 2005. And then the last time that I was there was in 2019. And it's noticeably different.

[D]

If you go to, like, Govan and Glasgow, like, 20 years ago, it was 100% Scottish.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Was like an Irish Catholic neighborhood. And you go there now, and it literally feels like the Middle East. And it's like, you know, you see these things at London. It's like, even in London, it still feels. Feels to a degree reminiscent of England. Like Govan, you have, like, people killing animals.

[A]

A lot of London feels like that, though.

[D]

I mean, look, it's like. It's unbelievable in Glasgow.

[A]

Yeah. I haven't been to Scotland. I've been to Dublin, though, on the Ireland side. And it's the same thing in Dublin. The exact same thing.

[D]

So it's.

[C]

The people that are there have absolutely been abused by their government because they don't. They didn't ask for this. They were never. There was no vote. Yeah. They vote against it all the time. And the government does nothing at all about the violence that the migrants are bringing in. And you've got both the UK or both England and Scotland are subject to the same thing. I think it's the same kind of thing is going on in Ireland. I'm not sure how bad, but, I mean, these people have to deal with this. They have to deal with basically changing the face of the country. And if they say, oh, we don't like this, or if they post about it on Facebook, they go to jail.

[D]

Yeah, well, you're seeing, like, in Northern Ireland, the Protestants and Catholics coming together. I mean, do you know how. How existential a threat has to be to bury that hatchet?

[A]

Right.

[D]

In this case, there's a hatchet involved as well. But, I mean, yeah, it's totally, totally insane. They're changing the entire composition of a country before our very eyes. And they're doing it very rapidly.

[E]

Completely engineered. Right. Anyone could do that here. They were trying to do that here as well.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So, I mean, the. The. We got to. We got to pull up some of the memes that people are making to stand in solidarity. We don't know her name, and there's no Gofundme or anything in terms of this, but people are just pointing it out that it's. You know, I'm surprised no one's done, like, the Braveheart meme yet.

[E]

The Internet. Oh, yeah, they're crazy.

[C]

They've done that.

[A]

Have you seen the Ray? I haven't seen it. Okay. I've been.

[C]

I've seen her with the. Even though, like they keep the pants on, but the kilt. The same from the show.

[A]

Yeah, here's, here's, here's one. This is. This is great. From SKS cartoon. Make sure you go follow him. Why aren't there any men helping us? Britain has no men. We're on our own.

[C]

That's really poignant. Like, why are there no men that will stand up and say this is unacceptable?

[D]

There is, but they're all in jail, like at Southport. I mean, as soon as anybody tried to do something about it, they throw you in jail and don't explain it.

[A]

You know what's crazy, isn't it? I think it's today or yesterday was the five year anniversary of Kyle Rittenhouse.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And I saw that was going around a lot. And I remember when that happened live. I was watching it live. I remember. Obviously, I've. I've come to know Kyle, I've covered the case, et cetera. And this was the exact same argument that I kept making. They were like, why is a 17 year old out there doing this? Like, why is he the only one out there? Where are the adults?

[E]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Like, where are the adults? Where are the people who put him in a situation where he's thinking somebody's got.

[E]

He was 17, right? 16. 17. Wow.

[A]

He was 17. So not much older than this girl.

[E]

Became a man overnight, just like that. I mean, he took a matter. Yeah. I mean.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

What happened to that kid now?

[A]

It's like, we all should have been there. Does he does work in the 2A community.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, also in Texas, by the.

[D]

Way, the UK is kind of an interesting case too. Like, they actually have more of a propensity to push back on these sorts of things. I think presumably because it's denser areas, it's easier to organize quickly versus the United States. But the UK cracks down much harder. I mean, you tweet the wrong thing and you're gone.

[A]

They did the studio Ghibli me. Yeah.

[C]

But I mean, the people.

[A]

Yeah, there's. There's the brief heart. Yeah.

[C]

The people in, In Scotland, the people in England, like, they, they have allowed this to happen, unfortunately. You know, you can. And they've allowed their government to imprison people. There are enough people that can stand up and go stand outside of the magistrate's office and say, let those guys out of jail.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Like if. If someone goes.

[A]

Because this is the one. This. There it is. I don't know. That's not necessarily Braveheart. It's sort of a crusader. Crusader chic. But even still, I mean, it's sentiments there. It's. Yeah. Joan of Arc is the one that comes to mind. It just seems like a Joan of Arc.

[E]

Just think how close we were to being like that as a society. If Kamala would have won, dude, I mean, seriously, think of the chaos, how crazy things would have been.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, well, the UK is interesting because it does feel like a testing ground for what they want to implement.

[E]

Oh, yeah, it is.

[D]

To a large degree.

[C]

It'll be worse here because they're not going to be able to get really.

[A]

Careful just like scrolling through Twitter on this. On this. You know, you never know what's going to pop up.

[C]

Seriously, the fact that. The fact that the United States has so many guns, you're not getting rid of them. So things like this, it wouldn't just be, you know, some. Some girl fighting with knives. And it also means that the aggressive people that are. That are looking to violate other people's rights, that they're going to have guns as well.

[E]

Right.

[C]

So you're going to like the idea of a civil war or something that turns into, you know, serious problems. Problems like it would be way worse in the United States than in the uk.

[D]

Well, and also the sources of migration, this is what separates Europe from the US is most of our migration over the last few decades has been from Latin America. Culturally, obviously, it's still different, but more similar to the US versus Europe. It's coming from the Middle east and North Africa. Vastly different civilization. Well, now the US is starting to get migrants from the Middle East, North Africa and also South Asia. Asia who are dramatically different from us. And so the UK is a bit of a trailer.

[E]

They're setting up whole communities in Texas, like Plano, All Sharia Muslims. I mean, it's crazy. Like massive communities being funded by Dearborn. All of them connected to Dearborn. Different cities in, in America, all interconnected. I mean, it's, it's. It. It was about to kick off here, I think, and then I think Trump man came in and what he's doing right now with. With the troops and everything he's doing is exactly what I voted in for.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Texas, you get the big monkey statue.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And it's like, you know, it's great. It's like all this won't stand in Texas, but it's like it's happening everywhere.

[E]

Right?

[D]

So it's like you could say, oh, well, let Zoron, you know, sink New York City. It's like there's monkey statues in Texas. Like, this is a nationwide problem.

[E]

Well, that. But what Trump's doing right now with the cleanup is the cure has to be greater than the disease. It just does. And that's what he's doing. The cure right now is that. And, you know, people can say what they want, but he's doing exactly what we voted him in for.

[D]

Yeah. So it's like, I mean, the uk. The UK is in serious, serious trouble. I mean, like I said earlier, they're able to organize a bit quicker just because of how their society and communities are structured. But I mean, the fact you can't even tweet, like, very, very innocent stuff, going to jail. I mean, I agree with you. Like, the men do need to be stepping up. But like I said earlier, a lot of the men that have stepped up are in jail because, like you saw with Southport, now you're seeing it where.

[E]

Because you can't even whisper something. You go to jail.

[D]

You can't even hang a St. George's Cross cross up on a lamp post. That's how they get investigated.

[C]

They're always like all the guys that are doing that.

[E]

Right.

[C]

Always wearing a mask to conceal their identity and stuff.

[D]

With all the problems we have in the us, it's like, that is not something you have to work.

[F]

So here's the thing, though. If you do defend the girl, here's what happens. You become the next Daniel Penny. Or I think there was just a story of some guy in Germany who defended some chick that was on a bus or something. It was America turned up into a slight. A piece of sliced cake. It was an American face was all cut up.

[C]

You become the next Daniel Penny, but you don't have the same outcome as Daniel Penny because the jury put you in jail for the rest of your life.

[A]

Life.

[F]

That's the best case. Worst case is you just get stabbed or killed and nobody praises you more or less, or you're demonized if anything goes wrong.

[D]

There's a lot that goes on. And specifically in Scotland, I know it well, that happens. Incidents like this happening in Glasgow and Edinburgh and Dundee and Alawa, and it's kind of off the books a little bit like this stuff kind of gets resolved away from the peering eyes of cameras and that sort of thing. Thing. This just happens to be an incident where it's been captured. It's time there is some push back off camera.

[C]

It's time for CIA to start running guns to England, to the.

[E]

To the.

[C]

To the underground in England.

[A]

CIA's done it.

[C]

CIA's done it all over the world. They can do it in the UK Start. You know, there's anybody in Lang listening.

[D]

If you're watching regime change, I can get behind.

[C]

I mean, look, regime telling you, man, you go, you go and you take back the uk, right? We should go and. And mass in France, go over the Channel, take back the UK and then we're heading to Jerusalem.

[D]

Yeah, like, you know, I'm of English stock. The UK is kind of like my Israel in a lot of ways. It's kind of the holy Land. You know, you go there, you get.

[F]

You guys have a wall over there.

[D]

English breakfast really feels the best wall connected.

[A]

Adrian's Wall.

[D]

Yeah, Adrian's Wall. So it's a beautiful thing. And I hear I really just supposed.

[A]

To keep out the. Well, it was supposed to be the border from Scotland, right.

[D]

It's not doing its job. You know, put a few extra feet on it.

[F]

But this reminds me a little bit of the funniest thing that Tim's ever said. It was the after show, and then he had like a caller from Ireland saying that he wants to immigrate to the United States. And he was like, no, stay in Ireland. And like, if there were enough immigrants that went to Ireland, like, they take over and they take back Northern Ireland, unlike you native Irish people who would never have the balls to do that. It was the most audacious thing. It was like, yo, make Ireland great again. Yeah, it was a very damn moment. I was like, yeah, that's my boss. I miss that guy, huh?

[A]

No, there's. There's. There's a lot going on. We covered. We covered a protest that was going on in. In Kerry in Ireland not too long ago, and they had tens of thousands of people were out, and it was on re. Migration. It was about take back Ireland. Conor McGregor, of course, has been out, you know, very much outspoken on this, you know, kind of flirting with the idea of even running for president. President, talking about this kind of thing that we need to take back Ireland for the Irish. And it's. It's really amazing, right, when you look at places like, like Ireland, like Scotland, that have fought for their independence for so long and have fought tooth and nail, right? So Ireland, you know, an example, has fought the British for, you know, hundreds of years in. In, you know, if you look at the totality of it, in order to get back their Ireland, to get their island back. And then they'll sit there and say, oh, but we all also have, you know, have to let in, you know, so many people. Oh well, the Irish went everywhere. So sure, Jesus charges as we should be, we should be allowing them to come here. And you're like, wait, what? Yeah, it's, it's ridiculous.

[F]

It's the, isn't that a part of Catholicism? And like there are a lot of different Catholic charities and as I understand in our country, who does want to advance a lot more immigration in.

[A]

But it's yes, there are, there are faith, there are, there are readings of it. But I would, I would say, I would argue that those are false interpretations. But yes, certainly a lot of false.

[F]

Interpretations, but very common false interpretation.

[A]

Certainly Catholic Charities. Yeah, there's Catholic charities, there's, there's Lutherans, there's, there's other, you know, other religions have this as well. So it's, you know, it's, it's one that's a huge, huge problem where, where they come in. I don't know how big they are. Specifically in Ireland. It wouldn't surprise me though if it was also going on.

[E]

Pope Leo's for immigration, right? I mean that's, that's what he said.

[A]

Yeah. Pope Leo has said these immigrate. He's for, you know, for open borders and he's, he's spoken out and it's like, for all of like the good that I think that he said about other things that you know, one of the things that, and you know, CNN was, you know, because we covered the conclave over there in Rome and they were, they were coming at me for saying, look, you know, I don't think this is the conservative candidate that conservatives wanted. And that's, and I get all my, all my trad cath bros be like, what do you mean? You know, he's, you know, he's got the vestments and he's like opened the Latin mass and this and he's good on same sex marriage and he's good on abortion.

[E]

I think he was perfectly picked. I say, yeah, but it's going to.

[A]

Go against issue post Trump border issue. He hasn't really been coming out against Trump to be fair. He hasn't really been.

[E]

But I mean open statements, the ones open borders, immigration, what do you think that says?

[A]

He's been undercutting for sure. But he hasn't been in the way Francis was. I mean.

[E]

Right.

[A]

He hasn't been this direct. But at the same time, open borders and mass migration is the seminal issue of our time. There's no, and there's, there's no question specifically in the West. And if you're going to sit there and act like it's not an issue.

[E]

And it's a, it's part of the globalist agenda. Right.

[A]

100. Destabilization of our countries.

[E]

Right. And so he is kind of like an opposing factor to Trump, which is kind of like, they picked this guy from Chicago, they bring him in, he wants open borders. I'm surprised he hasn't been, been as voiced as, I mean, I haven't really heard much from him. Like, I thought he was going to be much more of a thorn in Trump's side than he is.

[A]

Well, there, there was a reading on that. But one of the other big issues, too, is that the Vatican's kind of broke right now and church collections have been down. Revenues.

[E]

Vatican's broke.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. Holy wow.

[E]

I never thought I'd ever hear that.

[A]

Go, go check out some of the Vatican bank scandals that have gone on lately. The, the huge London real estate scandals. They've been involved in, in just, just, you know, the, the money's down, money's down worldwide for, for the Catholics. And, you know, they can point to numbers that have been church growth in Africa and South America, but that hasn't led to the type of money that you'd need to come in. And in places like, like where I'm from, the Philadelphia area, I mean, we just, you see churches closing every day.

[E]

Yeah. Less and less people are going and more people are in zoom and more.

[A]

People are attending churches. And so. And so one of the reasons, one of the other reasons that they wanted to choose an American business pope is because given the combativeness that Pope Francis had had and a lot of the confusion, I think that a lot of his policies were. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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[A]

Going towards some of those really big dollar. America's. America's the world's largest economy.

[E]

Are you Catholic?

[A]

I am, yeah.

[E]

So I was raised, I was an altar boy.

[A]

Oh, there you go. Yes. I was like. And, and so, so they want to get more access to that American big dollar.

[E]

Right, right.

[A]

Market. And they think you get an American that's someone who can walk. Right. At Villanova University, which is in the Philly area. So I almost went to Villanova, you know, where he went as underground grad. So, I mean, it's a huge, huge Catholic.

[E]

You attend church? Do you go to church or.

[A]

Every week, yeah.

[E]

Really? See, I wish. Better than better man than. I, I, I mean, I try to read the Bible as much as I can, but yeah, I mean, I've kind of fallen away from the, the Catholic Church at least.

[A]

But check out, check out Latin Mass. Check out Latin Mass. It's great. It's so cool. It's, it's, it's like the old school. It's, it's hardcore. Right. You know, no English. Well, the hom. Like the English, but, you know, it's, it's, it's way more traditional and I think a lot more solemn than, you know, the modern Vatican ii.

[E]

Okay, so you are, you are for this Pope or against this Pope?

[A]

I see a lot of good in terms of some of those traditional items, but I just, I just think he's got to, I think he's got to get his head right on immigration. I think, I think it's the biggest issue.

[F]

I mean, I think it's worth mentioning too that, that I know a Jewish person talking a lot about Catholicism right now, but the American brand of Catholicism is a little bit different than the global brand of Catholicism. American Catholicism is a lot more right wing than global Catholicism. It's worth mentioning to.

[A]

There's different strains even in America, though.

[F]

Sure. No, but worldwide, generally, as I understand our version, our American version of Catholicism is a little bit more right leaning. I think it's Also worth mentioning 40% of Catholics are from Latin America. America. So I feel like it would make sense for the Pope to be very open towards immigration and towards people in Latin America.

[A]

And he spent a ton of his, his career as a priest down in Peru.

[F]

It makes sense because that's where global Catholicism I'm reading right now. There's 500 some odd million.

[A]

Yeah, that's Catholic growth in South America, Latin America and in Africa. But at the same time. And as well. But at the same time, they just don't have the economic pull that, you know, Americans do.

[F]

Yeah. I think I'm saying it stands to reason why there would be some, you know, religious affinity for Latin Americans who are Catholic and that Catholic organizations in our country would want to try to reach out to these people and help them because they believe in Jesus and they believe the same things they do. And on a religious affiliation basis is.

[A]

So what's, what's great though is that, you know, and you do have these different strains of political, political thought arising from Catholicism and that, you know, for, for like the trad caths, you know, we would kind of point more towards Cardinal Sarah, who is African, but he and a cardinal of the church, but he would say, you know, people should go back to their home countries because this dilution is causing confusion, it's causing destabilization, it's causing all the issues.

[E]

But if you were, if you were, if you were a globalist, wouldn't he be the perfect pick Pope Leo, wouldn't he be the perfect plant to go against Trump? I mean, give the, the immig, the, the righteous indignation to fight against Trump, to feel righteous about what they're doing. Pick a guy that's from Chicago, pick a Pope. That's open borders. Do you get what I'm saying here? Oh, yeah, yeah. That to me, that's just like the perfect plant. And, and you know that, that's how I see it, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but that's.

[A]

The way I see it, you know.

[E]

Really? That's right.

[A]

You're not the only one saying it.

[F]

It's good for the Catholic brands, per se. I mean, Ambassador.

[D]

Well, it's like kind of what you're saying. Like you get this thing online where you'll see specifically like really trad cath types like Chest Beat and they'll post a map showing like how widespread Catholicism has become in the United States. But then it overlays with like migration from Latin America over the last 30 years. So it's like, because if you look at broadly, if you look at the demographics of the United States, the religious demographics, there's been a huge outpouring of Catholics into like non denominational churches.

[C]

In my opinion. It doesn't matter if there's an influx or an uptick in how many Catholics they are. If too many of them Are liberation theology Catholics?

[D]

Sure.

[A]

Which is. And you get. And that's what you get from South America.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's just leftism. Like, like having.

[F]

Is that true? I'm not, I'm not familiar with liberation theology.

[C]

It's leftist.

[F]

That's the brand of Latin America.

[C]

Leftist infiltration of the Catholic Church, using the word of God. God to forward leftist agendas.

[A]

Because Marxism, when Marxism goes to different areas, what it does is it adopts to whatever the climate of that area is. Right. The political climate, the cultural climate. And so because Latin America was all in South America were already Catholic, they said, okay, well, we're going to combine through like, almost like a syncretalism, this idea of, okay, we're going to, to put it's. It's what's Catholic and we're supporting the rights of the people to migrate, but it's also Marxist. Right. And which, which is weird because.

[F]

Seems contradictory.

[A]

It seems contradictory because typically when the Marxists do take contradictory, the very first thing they do in places like, oh, I don't know, Catholic France or Catholic Spain, or start killing the priests and kill it and, and raping the nuns on the altar and smashing churches. And you see that this, in Mexico, they do it again and again and again. But to your point, it's this other strain of Marxism that's infiltrating through the church.

[C]

When people say that, like, Marxism will take over whatever you love and wear it like a skin suit. That's not just a figure of speech. That is how Marxism operates.

[D]

Well, they did it. They've done it, but they've also done it to the mainline churches in the U.S. i mean, you look at, historically, who are the Founding Fathers? They're like Episcopalians, they're Presbyterians. And you look at those down denominations now, and it's like, that's where you get the pride flags, the lesbian preachers and everything. Like, it's a nightmare.

[A]

We had the. I was at the National Prayer, you know, service that right after Trump got inaugurated with JD Vance, and we had the, the female bishop in the National Cathedral. And I was like, well, you know, okay, first time seeing a, you know, a lady priest. Let's see how this goes. And then, and, and what does she do?

[E]

Wasn't she talking trash to Trump right there?

[A]

Yeah, she starts, she gives a homily or a sermon. She gives a sermon saying that people, that, that no one is illegal and people shouldn't be deported. And you can, you can see the president kind of sitting there like, what's going on. And we're, we're just, we're just a couple rows back. And it got really very uncomfortable. Uncomfortable for everybody. What is he going to do something? So, you know, to credit to him, you know, being a gentleman, he didn't say anything or do anything at the time. Time. But I think. But even before he made it back to the White House, he's up on Truth Social.

[E]

Yeah, he went right at it. But that's, that's what the Marxists are doing, right? They're taking, they're, they're taking over the schools, indoctrination camps, the churches. It's all captured operations. Yeah, all captured operations. It's, I mean, every institution and organization now has been captured. And we're trying to untangle that web right now with Trump and break free of this.

[A]

Well, while we're, while we're talking about that, you know, we had a huge debate last night about freedom of speech and whether burning a flag constitutes freedom of speech. This has gone viral. I've gotten so many messages about it. Great discussion. And so here, here. And I'd love to, by the way, for all of those people who were so supportive of the rights to burn the American flag. Okay, all right. That's your, that's your statement. That's freedom of speaker of speech. Are you also going to support the freedom of speech of Shiloh Hendricks? Of course, because Shiloh Hendricks has now been charged. So who is Shiloh Hendricks? Let's remember this. She dirty. She went viral for language that she used at a Rochester park in a video that went viral. This is out of the Minnesota Star Tribune. She has hurled ra. Racial slurs. Now, this claims that she hurled them at a child, although that's not what we see in the video. And it says she is being charged. Church, can we get, can we see what she was charged with or is there a paywall on this thing?

[E]

So I'm new to. This is a white woman yelling at a black kid or a black woman.

[A]

She's a white woman. And we're told that there was an altercation between her and, and a black child. But that's not what we see. What we see in the video. Video is another guy who's sort of following her, chasing her, harassing her, saying, I'm filming you. I'm coming. I'm going to make you famous. Puts it on TikTok. It racks up millions and millions.

[E]

Now she's famous.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

She made her million dollars.

[A]

Yeah. She says the N word in the video. Says it to a child, though. Well, she's saying it to the guy filming in. In the video. Now he's saying that he claimed that she said it to the child. Child I want to give out. What did she, what was she charged with? She said, you know, she admitted to calling, calling him the offensive disorderly conduct and said that she can call him that if he acts like one. So she kind of admits saying it in the video. So even though we don't have the video of it, she admits it in this later video. What's he been charged with? Three counts of disorderly conduct.

[E]

I could see the disorderly conduct. Right.

[A]

She raised, she raised a ton of money on Give, Send, Go. This was in the wake of Carmelo Anthony. And I want to. Do we know. Do we have the gives and go. Do we know how much money she. She raised? I think it was a million. Right? It's a million. I think I want to say it was a million. I don't know. It's exactly at. Right. But I believe she raised a million dollars off of this.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

Here we go. Here we go. Freedom of speech for. By the way. And I'm just going to say it for saying a word that black people say all the time to each other.

[E]

All the time.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

They don't land the R. Was he landing the R? I mean, they just say so.

[A]

And this. But this is the debate I want to get into. Into. Right. So the debate is that for all of the people who say that it's freedom of speech to burn a flag, then what about Shiloh Hendricks? Freedom of speech to. To.

[F]

I'm gonna call a child.

[E]

It is freedom of speech. It is freedom of speech. You should be able to say what the hell you want to say in America. Now, whether it's, whether you agree with it or not, that's up to that person. But if this guy wants to call me a dirty spic, he can call me a dirty spic all he wants.

[F]

What if I want to come up to your child? Child? Then call your child.

[E]

That's your. I'll knock you out. Yeah, but I mean, still, it's his freedom of speech, right?

[F]

Sure.

[E]

Yeah. Okay.

[F]

So it saves you from consequences from the government, but not necessarily.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

But, but was she just going out now and again, like, I don't know.

[F]

Was there more to the story?

[A]

I think there's, I think, I think. And I, I, I don't know if the video up.

[E]

And I would never know.

[F]

You're Hispanic. No, that's what I said. Don't know. A bar after this, I believe she.

[A]

Said that, that the kid was going through her bag, was like, so when you go. And I'll just say this, haven't, you know, taken the kids to, you know, the playground to go to the park, you know, you have like your, your baby bag, your kid bag that's there. You bring, you know, some drinks, some food, some whatever. It's, it's there. And then someone starts going through your bag and you're like, hey, that's, you know, that's not.

[E]

But it was a child. It was just a child with it. It was the child that was going through, sweetheart.

[A]

We don't know exactly what happened before the video. And that's what I want to say. And I always say that with viral videos that whenever you see some video that goes crazy viral that is going out. George Floyd is, is, you know, of course, the, the quintessential example of this. Show me what happened five minutes before. Right, right. Show me what happened five minutes before. Before I have to come in, you know, and, and, you know, pass judgment. Because if we don't have that rule, if you don't have the 5 minutes rule, then all of a sudden we're going to become this country that's just ruled by whatever video is going on.

[E]

Because everyone's a reactionary.

[A]

That shouldn't be our system.

[F]

So I think the conversation that we're having, the ideas that we're debating with is it's very complex free speech issue that we're dealing with. I think a quote that's often misattributed to Voltaire succinctly describes what we're working with. Like he allegedly said, I know I'm misattributing this quote, but I disapprove of what you say. But I will defend to the death. You're right to say it. I think the idea here is that let's say a government that you don't like eventually gets into power and has other things that they want to allege could potentially produce riots, and therefore you shouldn't be able to burn trans flags. So it really depends. The issue is giving the government power to.

[A]

You already can't burn a trans flag.

[F]

You can burn a trans flag as far as I'm concerned.

[A]

As far as you're concerned.

[F]

But I'm saying no, the law is actually, actually concerned. I think you're misattributing, like a story that didn't exactly line up with somebody actually burning a trans flag. Also, it's worth mentioning that the law that's actually passed is in regards to like somebody burning a flag and then inciting a riot as a result of it. Trying to incite a riot I think is what the actual charge is here. But it's like how far we covered that last night.

[A]

We like I made that.

[F]

What was the story of somebody burning the trans flag?

[A]

I'm talking about the. The American flag. E.O. we. We. I made the distinction, mentioned that what was passed yesterday, it was, it was basically taking that idea that. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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[A]

You're not going to, you're not going to be charged directly for the burning of the flag. But it's the incitement.

[F]

Yeah, so, so it's an additional, additional other things. I think this would be a limit on free speech. Although I am very conflicted. I love our country. I love the country's values. I love what the flag symbolizes. But I, I'm conflicted on using the law and trying to arrest people and using law enforcement as a result of that. And where would we eventually draw the line and will eventually these laws laws be used against me?

[C]

One of the things that people consistently say were saying to me on Twitter is first of all they were like well you know all this stuff about the trans flag or people that were doing burnouts on the rainbow crosswalks and blah blah, blah. That is all the idea that anyone should be prosecuted for that is also ridiculous. Right? Like that shouldn't be any kind of defense because nobody that burns a trans flag or does a burnout on a rainbow cross, none of them should actually be prosecuted. There should never be being arrest people bring up hate crimes. I don't think that hate crimes are real because hate crimes are thought crimes.

[E]

Right?

[C]

Like there should not be any hate crimes. If you commit a violent act to someone, that's what you're. You should be prosecuted for. All hate crime is. Is a thought crime, and that is outside of the. The realm of the. Of the government. So, like, when this case are not.

[A]

Particularly complicated, getting it back to. To Shiloh Hendricks, we have, we now have word crime.

[C]

Yeah, of course, of course.

[A]

So let's. And let's think about that. Right? You know, if, if, if, if she had cursed, and I'm just going to play devil's advocate, if she had cursed at the child, would she be getting charged? Probably not.

[F]

No.

[E]

She get the F. N word.

[A]

Get the. But if she said, get the f away from my back, which she may have said, would she be probably getting charged? No. Right.

[E]

So we, what I'm saying kind of in the right. The kid was busy with her property. I mean, I can see that, but none of us would handle that like that.

[A]

But I think it's rude.

[E]

It's very rude. Right, but that, that's it. But did she go ballistic and crazy afterwards and keep yelling at the kid? Is that what happened? I haven't even seen.

[A]

We don't. Well, we don't know, right? We. We don't know exactly what happened. And that's getting back to my five minutes. We don't know exactly what happened. But what I'm saying is these, this was, it was a playground thing, right? You know, these things happen all the time on playgrounds where there's some altercation, something goes wrong. It doesn't seem like anyone was, you know, physically hurt here in any way. Thank God. You know, it doesn't seem like.

[E]

Because if she just said something like, hey, get out of my bag, and then said the N word, and they're like, okay, but if she kept calling the kid names and like berating the kid, that's like abuse, right? Right. Kind of.

[A]

That will come up, I'm sure. But. But what about the fact that the person who was harassing her caused her to be doxxed? Caused her.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Caused them to go after her family. Clearly is. And by the way, is also doxing her child, putting it up to get social media clout, to get clicks, et cetera, et cetera, and now she's a millionaire.

[F]

What if everybody in the story is deplorable and just sucks? What about, you know, if Everybody, I don't need to feel bad about anybody here. The little kid sucks for reaching to the bag. The way the kid's parent or guardian reacted sucks.

[A]

And we have no idea sucked. We have no idea where the first parent is. By the way, the parent of this, the five year old that's going in the bag because the person who's filming is not their parent, okay? So we have no idea where that parent is. So that's the very first thing, by the way. And again, I'll, I'll be consistent, right? If I said that I would go, go down on my kid and bring him to, to, you know, come down on my kid and go to the, you know, take him to the police station if he did something that like Roger Jackson did, then in the same token is this. If my kid is going through somebody else's bag at the playground, say, hey, what are you doing?

[E]

My mom gave principal the right to spank me and beat my ass. And also my neighbors, that was just.

[F]

Last week, they take the opportunity.

[E]

I kind of enjoyed it. No, but, no, really, when I was a kid, I get hold onto the desk and bend over and I'm like, oh, damn. Well, bam.

[D]

You know, West Virginia nights.

[E]

And my mom was like, yeah, I know. But my mom was like, you deserve that. My mom would give me preemptive ass beatings before I'd walk into a store. She'd hit me and say, you better not do this or that. I mean, I was raised that way. I was raised with ass kickings all the time. Probably that's why I'm the way I am now. But I'm just saying, like, but I mean, I understand it. Like, I mean, kids could be, you know, animals do. They could be just, you know, you know, for me growing up, I was always in trouble, so I, I expected that. But I mean, my neighbors, my mom gave the neighbors permission, like, look, if he jumps on your roof and does that again, beat his ass, right?

[A]

And so did, did she go, did she go overboard in, in throwing the M word at a five year old? Yeah, you could say that she did.

[E]

My mom called me some names.

[A]

I don't want to repeat the same name time. Where's, where's the first parent you know of that child? You get a five year old at a playground, you're not paying attention to him. That's a very young age. That is not the age of a kid that should just be, you know, let out on themselves.

[E]

I agree with that.

[A]

She's probably on her phone, she's probably like looking for the next tick tock video, thinking, oh, what's, what's, what's up next? And, and I see that too, by the way. I see that. You know, and that's not a racial thing. That's just, you know, parents are on their phones way too much and, and I, I try very cognizantly to get myself away from the phone.

[E]

I don't know, man. Times, times have changed so much and I was.

[A]

The point is. The point is, should you face charges for that?

[E]

I don't think so.

[A]

That be something that really probably should have stayed between. It should have stayed on the playground. That's all I'm saying.

[E]

I mean, me growing up, my mom used to beat the crap out of my friends. My friends, mothers used to beat the crap out of me. Everyone. I mean, it was just the way it was. I, I don't think she, I definitely not be charged for that 100%.

[A]

No. Yeah. I mean, I just, I don't think warranted. And that's why, by the way, when, when it comes to the flag burning stuff, I'm going to say, look, we already have de facto speech codes in this country, right? And that's, that's essentially what this is. It is a de facto speech code that already exists. It is a standard and a precedent that has already been set. You can argue over when it was set, but it's been set and it's currently set. We do not live in a free speech society. We don't.

[F]

Yeah, nobody's principled in their belief in free speech speech. I don't think people like to larp and posture as if they are, but when push comes to shove on an issue that they care about, it kind of goes out the window.

[D]

My principle is reward patriots, punish non patriots.

[F]

Exactly.

[D]

My principles. Like, you know, you can't, you can't burn the flag, full stop. I don't have to justify this talk.

[F]

TR.

[E]

That you have the right to.

[D]

Not anymore. Not as of yesterday.

[F]

Guys.

[C]

I'm, I'm sitting here with like a third of my arm as the thirteen colonies flag and I'm still saying, hey, it's okay. It's not gonna hurt the United States. I know the argument was being made. Oh, this is about demoralization.

[D]

Absolutely hurts.

[C]

I don't think that it hurts. I disagree. I don't think that could have yanked.

[D]

Those people off the street.

[A]

There's no way to raise kids.

[C]

Totally disagree.

[A]

There's no way to raise kids to value their country. If you also teach them it's okay to burn the flag.

[F]

You tell your kids that.

[A]

What?

[C]

That the people that are actually burning the flag are the scum of the. The earth.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And again, I'm the guy that's, that's got the, the, the only guy here that the flag tattooed on his body.

[F]

Just because it is illegal doesn't mean it's okay. Yeah, I feel like we also need to. I detest anybody. But you have the right.

[E]

I don't agree with it, but if someone wants to burn the flag, I'm just going to look at them and be like, oh, what a moron.

[F]

And just even worse than that, I'm going to detest you and loathe you. And I think you should be.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Or you can just go to jail.

[A]

Because it's an uncontrolled burn because it's a crime.

[C]

So that's.

[E]

So what do they say? So you could burn a flag in your own home if it's privately, but if you're in sight.

[A]

So, okay, so, so the, the current EO does not cover that. So if you went on, I said this last night. If you went on Amazon and you purchased a flag and you brought it home and I think somebody there was, you did some like, you know, to two way guy was, was thought he'd be like, you know, edgy and he like he had one of those like, you know, flags gun go. Yeah. Today. Look at me. Is that. Well, the EO doesn't cover that. The EO says when you're at a riot or in a public setting and you are going to incite imminent illegal action or violence, that is the time when the DOJ is directed to go.

[E]

After you see, I think this is all man. I don't know how much time we have left, but I just want to say, like, I think this is going in a direction where I think Trump is preparing for something big, man. And I think, I think it's like, I'm serious, there's National Guards on the streets.

[A]

I think it's getting, it's not, it's not protected speech. It's.

[E]

I mean, what happened in June, you saw those kids are burning cars.

[A]

There's no. And just to get into it again. I mean, I saw this last night. I don't repeat myself, but this is, this is a Marxist argument. It is absolutely a Marxist twisting of the First Amendment to claim that expression is speech. People. The pro life movement fought against Roe v. Wade for years and years and years and finally got it overturned because they were able to prove that it Wasn't in the Constitution. Constitution protection of flag burning is nowhere near in the Constitution. Believe it or not, it was decided a decade after Roe v. Wade. So Roe v. Wade was. Was around for much longer than flag burning was protected. And yet people want to sit here and act like the founding fathers would have supported that. It's just not true. It's a completely Marxist argument that came up at the kind of the tail end of the counterculture, you know, sort of 60s radical radicals revolution. They finally get this decision out of the Supreme Court in 1989. And it's just. It's ridiculous. It's completely ridiculous. It's antithetical to our history. It's Marxist.

[D]

The founders went further with John Adams with the sedition act in 1789.

[A]

100%.

[D]

It's like the flag burning would have been completely. That would have gotten you ostracized and probably mobbed. They even went further with like, just basic criticism. I'm not saying that's neither here nor there. But to act like the founders would have been this, like, oh, yeah, that's totally fine.

[E]

Burn it.

[D]

This is part of our rights. I'm thinking it's like, that's not how American structures look.

[E]

I don't agree with it at all. I don't think you should burn a flag. Absolutely not. But you should have the right to do it. If you're an idiot, you have the right to be an idiot.

[A]

But that's Marxism. Yeah, that's a. That is a Marxist argument that. That has come up. Only only started in the Marxist. In the 1960s.

[D]

People deploy the same argument with pornography.

[A]

Right?

[D]

That's how they defend these pornographies are saying, well, I disagree with it, but you have the right. They're it. I'm like, but this is clearly destructive to.

[A]

How many years did states have obscenity laws?

[D]

Yeah, obscenity laws, blasphemy laws.

[C]

You're making a good point. Like if your girlfriend or your wife sends naked pictures of herself. Your wife, for context, right? So say your wife sends you naked pictures. That's pornography, Right.

[D]

That's different than publishing.

[B]

Why?

[D]

Because this is distribution to the public with an intent to attempt to sway society.

[C]

So it's not sway society while we're arguing.

[A]

But what he's arguing and what I'm trying to argue is that this is our actual history, right? So for people who want to claim that, oh, the founder, like, it's a foundational belief of America that you have to, you know, you have to allow for flag burning and pornography and, you know, and all this stuff. No, it's just not true. It's never been true. It's just. It is an ahistorical Marxist argument.

[C]

Well, it's. I. So I disagree that it's a Marxist argument, but the.

[A]

Promoting Marxism, Phil.

[C]

Yeah, like I said, I disagree that it's a Marxist argument.

[A]

Go talk to the Marxist with the.

[E]

American flag on his arm, you Marxist.

[F]

While we're getting deeply engaged in the philosophical debate here, I'm still going to.

[E]

Defend the right of people to do what they want. If they want to burn a flag, you have the right to do that. If I agree, I don't agree with it. But I don't think Karl Marx would.

[A]

Be so happy with you right now.

[F]

The President.

[A]

Love you.

[F]

I think the President is a lot more pragmatic in what he's doing for political reasons. So I think the President is extremely effective at baiting Democrats and stupid people in the media into taking his bait. So what do I mean by that? When he says he's sending the national guard into D.C. to fight crime, he's making Democrats defend crime. So now when he's saying he's going to make burning the flags illegal, he's going to make Democrats defend burning flags, and he's putting them in this rhetorical argument where they're being forced to defend the worst things because it's what he is doing. So as far as being like a pragmatic political operator, I think Trump, Trump's very effective. And what he's trying to set Democrats.

[E]

Up to, setting traps, that's what I.

[F]

Think he's doing here. I think he's already doing. He cares about the philosophy or is it right or wrong. He's thinking, oh, burning flags, you know, is bad enough. I'm going to make the Democrats defend burning flags. Well, not only that, Democrats defend crime.

[A]

He's going to get them to do that. Well, Trump says, I can't do this, I'm going to do it. And now they're going to burn.

[F]

We'll be principled in your free speech and burn a flag. See how much the public likes that. But I think that's what the President is basically aiding people into doing. He is a very savvy political operator in how he's behaving here. That's what I think people should be. 3D chess.

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[F]

Trump moves because these moves didn't come out of nowhere, right? He's trying to set up a narrative.

[D]

But flag burning has been controversial for like 30 years. This isn't like a recent just Trump giving.

[F]

He's bringing it back into the news.

[A]

Funny enough, Hillary Clinton actually supported this in 2005.

[D]

Go figure.

[A]

When she was a senator, this was something that was so, you know, it was so like quote unquote popular, you know, in, you know, rally around the flag 11 environment that even Hillary was like, yeah, we should get on board with this.

[D]

So Hillary w. I guess so.

[E]

You know, we all saw what happened in June, right? They're waving the Mexican flag, they're burning American flags. You know, the riots, the protests that happened in.

[A]

Yeah, we talked about this a ton last night.

[E]

Exactly. Yeah. And so obviously I feel with him putting the troops on the streets in D.C. getting ready now what, 19 states, I think he's getting ready for something much bigger. And this is all, everything, all the moves he's making is alluding to this. To me from what I can see from a 60,000 foot view and is, I think something bigger is coming around the corner and he's preparing for it with protests and civil unrest. And I think that could be maybe when people start getting arrested. Dog. I'm just saying because if they'll do it for. Okay, they'll protest for George Floyd.

[A]

What you're saying is where and if I just hear this right, because this, this EO and a lot pointed out that it's, it's, it's very specifically talking about these instances at, you know, in public.

[E]

And yes, he's getting ahead of the ball.

[A]

So he's, so he's thinking, right? Something's going to.

[E]

Thinking like a general. He sees what's coming. He's like, okay, because if they'll write and protest when George Floyd got arrested, right. Your liberal next door was rioting and protesting. Everyone was going crazy. So if they'll do that with George Floyd, what are they going to do? Let's say, I don't know, Hillary Obama gets arrested. Let's say that comes. He's getting ahead of the ball here with this. So he's setting his chess pieces and he's, he's setting his chess pieces in order here to make those movements. Moves. He's moving in the troops. He's setting the perimeters. Do you guys get what I'm saying here?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Stop getting my hopes up.

[E]

I'm telling you, this is coming. I can see.

[A]

Dude, I would love it. I would. Watching Phil's going to be sitting there. Why are you arresting the flag burner?

[E]

Stop.

[A]

Look at my tattoo.

[C]

Out of your mind. Jack's going to be crying out of your mind.

[F]

Singing.

[E]

I. I know you all are thinking.

[C]

I didn't know that you were so into. Into strong men defending the United States.

[E]

I didn't, I didn't really want to.

[F]

Go that liberals accuse him of that all the time.

[A]

Defending. Right. I will always.

[E]

I mean we all.

[C]

Straw man argument. I never said that. I'm like oh the poor guy.

[A]

Blah, blah, blah.

[C]

I'm just saying that it should not. People should not go to jail for it. So making it out like I'm like some kind of bleeding heart liberal is ridiculous.

[E]

But dude, what are they going to.

[A]

Kind of simping for flag burners.

[C]

I'm not simping for flags burners at all. I haven't said oh the poor flag burners or anything. I'm saying that the principle of, of free expression and free speech includes flag burning. Where is the word if you don't agree with sit. There is just.

[A]

Okay, okay, where's. Where is free expression in the Constitution, please?

[C]

I said, I said free expression and free speech.

[A]

Well, okay, great difference. So pull up free expression in the Constitution.

[C]

So I, I know that I'm aware that it's not in the Constitution.

[A]

So just pull it up for me.

[C]

I just told you I'm aware that free expression is not in the Constitution. But freedom of association or free but freedom. Association isn't in it either. But people on the right always say, oh, we should have freedom.

[A]

Freedom of assembly is there.

[C]

Freedom of association which is different than freedom. If you're going to say that Freedom of assembly is the same thing as freedom of association, then freedom of expression is the same thing as freedom of speech.

[A]

Physical act is not speech.

[C]

I'm saying argument that they're the same.

[A]

Then, then abortion is not privacy.

[C]

I'm not, I'm not making the argument that abortion is privacy.

[A]

No, I'm just saying these are things that Marxists did to our Constitution to twist the meaning of words to get people to suddenly say, oh, well, I'm defending freedom by defending all these things that degrade, demoralize and destroy my country.

[C]

So like I said, the freedom of speech. I think that if you burn the flag, that's expressing yourself.

[A]

It's, it's, that's not in the Constitution.

[C]

It's, it's, it's. Speech is in the.

[A]

Show me where it is in the Constitution.

[C]

It's speech. It's. The point is, it's speech. Speech. You keep saying show me where it's in the Constitution. I told you, I, I, I, straight up. I'm aware that, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to cut you off, but.

[E]

No, no, but you're, I'm with.

[A]

You're, you're twisting the words of the Constitution. I'm not twisting to achieve a goal that the communists want.

[D]

It's pornography.

[F]

Speech.

[E]

Can I just.

[C]

I think it's fine.

[D]

You think?

[C]

I don't think that it's.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

I think that. I think that it's, I think that.

[A]

I think that personally, I think there are sometimes speech.

[C]

I think that speech does cover expression because you're expressing.

[E]

Can I just, can I just say.

[A]

This expression is not speech.

[E]

I think what he's doing here is, is brilliant in a way. And I, I agree with you, by the way. I agree with you. But I think he's, he's putting his chess pieces in position for. What do the liberals love to do when they're protesting and chanting and rioting? They burn flags, dude. They're getting, he's getting ready. He's getting ahead of the ball for. I'm telling you, he's like a war general. He sees what's coming. Something big is going to, gonna come. Do you agree with me?

[F]

I think he's just baiting libs. He's baiting.

[E]

What's gonna happen is they're gonna go crazy. I'm telling you, bro, you're right.

[A]

I mean, I, I, I, I agree that. I think that's it.

[F]

That is what he's doing and that he did the same thing on crime. He was Baiting glibs to say, oh no, a few muggings are okay, like a few shootings.

[A]

I think he believes it too. I mean, to, to be fair, like.

[F]

I think he's against Flag as a savvy political move. I think this other stuff is immaterial to him. I think he just. Very savvy political.

[D]

I think he's a patriot and he loves America and he hates to see that. That happening.

[F]

I don't think we're seldom going to see this invoked.

[A]

I'm in the chat is asking, can we burn Phil's arm as free speech.

[E]

But I see with what Trump is doing with the troops. The troops and everything he's doing, he is setting his pieces up for. It's strategy. The whole flag burning thing, it's all strategy. I think what's coming. He's preparing for something. He knows they're going to be set off.

[A]

It's so funny, by the way, there's a bunch, there's, it's funny because it's, there's, there's a bunch of people in the chat who like, really pos. Is making things is wrong. And I'm like, guys, it's not in the Constitution. It's just not there. Like, you can, you can, you can claim it as all you want, but it's just not there. The same way that abortion is not in the Constitution. Like, it's just not.

[F]

You want to pivot to super chats.

[A]

I feel like we do have to.

[F]

Yeah, we do have to. I feel bad for those who were in.

[A]

Serge has been texting me for a while and so I'm looking at the chats and I do want to get that. And I feel like we never run.

[F]

Through the super chats enough. We don't want to. Serge.

[A]

I'm a three time Trump voter and longtime Tim cast fan. A lot of the staff and the right in general now flirt with authoritarianism. If you say f the rules, f principles, how are you better than Beto? I'm the only one here who's actually reading the Constitution and defending it.

[F]

The thing is, the Constitution says a lot of things that don't exist in reality right now. Tell me what the Second Amendment is right now. I cannot have, you know, equal, equal rights to a firearm. I cannot carry a firearm in most of the places that I live.

[A]

Sure.

[F]

Actively. But. Oh, it's the Second Amendment. Oh, it's in the Constitution. Okay. The Constitution doesn't apply to most of the things in our practical real life right now. Or there are more Laws added after the fact. That.

[A]

That doesn't mean you shouldn't defend it.

[F]

You're not wrong. But as for pragmatic practical purposes, Go.

[E]

So are you saying that the act of burning the flag is not freedom of speech, it's the act of kept putting it on fire? I'm sorry, that's what you're saying. Oh, no, I'm trying to really absorb this. That's what you're saying, right? That the act of lighting a flag on fire is not a free. That's. That not. That is not. That's not freedom of speech.

[A]

It's not.

[F]

He's arguing that it's not speech.

[A]

It's not speech in particular because it's not speech.

[E]

Because it's not.

[F]

Someone like a category.

[A]

It's not a category or speech.

[E]

It's an act.

[A]

So if I, if you and I are speaking, it's like vandalism, freedom of speech, vandalism.

[F]

I think it's incitement is what people were arguing in the Incitement is the eo.

[A]

I'm not going further. I agree that I'm. Yeah, obviously I'm going further.

[E]

I'm just trying to understand this better. But this is just. If it's done in public settings, in a protest, then that's against the law. But if someone has a flag in their own home and they want to burn their flag that they bought, they can do that. That's where I'm. That's. That's. I don't understand the.

[A]

Not under the current. Under the current eo, you could.

[E]

So you could burn American flag in your own. In your home, but if you're out at a protest, you start burning the flag. That's against the law.

[A]

That's the current executive order.

[C]

Yes, because he says that it's incitement.

[A]

I do have to get to the super chats because I'm being very remiss. I do like this conversation, though, where. Wait, okay, sorry, I'm looking at the wrong spot. Here we go. This is from Metho 6 7, 1. This is Rumble. This Rumble ran. If Trump accepts 600,000 Chinese students, he should be impeached and removed under the 25th. China is an enemy of the United States and is plotting our downfall every day. And I voted for him. Wow. So again, I mean, that's. That's what we titled this episode. That there's a maga uproar. And there you go. Where are we going? A lot is nuts. This is from Spork, which. What is a Spork? Which now that is, that's nuts. Now that, that is interesting.

[F]

They give a take that they were upset about.

[A]

So college doesn't teach American values. It indoctrinates students in Marxism. China only allows party members in good standing to go. Zero benefit, all cost and harm.

[F]

That's just not true on both, on both accounts and postal. Maybe you could talk more to the China part, but I just, I don't think that's the case. But let's go.

[A]

I mean, I'd say it's probably a case by case basis, but if you're, if you are a party member, you're going to have a more chance or from a family that has a party member, there's a better chance you're going to make it. Let's see. The only reason, the only rational reason for the students is to use them as hostages for the CCP. This is from SPQR 2008. So returning, returning Rome, the Roman Empire in the 2008. Using him as hostages for the CCP, not taking Taiwan or the South China Sea. Matt rides a friend married a Chinese girl. Her bro is in the army, by the way, that's interesting because most, you know, most, most people in China are one child. But that's, that's changing.

[F]

Good point. So I don't know, maybe this fake.

[A]

News, it's, they've, they've been relaxing it in recent years. So you, you know, if you're younger, it's, it's possible like, like Gen Z. So millennials don't have siblings in China, but Gen Z kind of can. But in some cases, again, if you're a CCP elite, you can, or if you have a special dispensation, you can, you can get, get around the rules. And so he was told that because his sister is married to a foreigner, he is not eligible for promotion in the army. CCP has zero issue with holding family accountable. So this, this, this family reprisal, collective punishment.

[F]

This was to my point earlier that Chinese nationalists are also against student visas. For Chinese people coming over here, that's more of a reason to not do it.

[A]

Mft2 says. How long will she still be in charge of China? Rumor is he is on the outs with his party. Yeah, I see that headline. Gosh, like, it's like, it's like routine. Every six months. He's about to go. He's about to go. He's about to go. The CCP is about to fall. They're about to fall. They're going to fall tomorrow. And then they just keep going.

[F]

He just keeps purging anybody who questions their loyalty, even the people who are loyal to ccp, Xi Jinping and the ccp. He just keeps doing these so called corruption purges. Yeah, and of business leaders too. Anybody gets too powerful, they were putting it on tv.

[A]

So it was the number one show in China at one point where the struggle sessions because you don't have to hold them in these mass public settings and soccer stadiums anymore like the Cultural Revolution. They were putting them on TV and they made like a reality show about it. So. And you would actually have to get the official who's being purged. The purgee, I suppose. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

[G]

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[A]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[G]

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[A]

Bon voyage.

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[A]

T Mobile is now on camera speaking to the camera reciting their crimes against the nation and, and you get to see all of the things they did and then that person gets purged. And this was like number one highest rated show in China when it was.

[C]

Out, you know, to the point of, of, you know, if she were to be, you know, die or taken out of power or whatever, that doesn't mean that the government's going to change. It just means that she's not the guy in charge.

[E]

It just gets replaced.

[C]

Yeah, it would just be another person.

[A]

Here's an.

[E]

Here's replaced with Lee.

[A]

Here's an. But I think Xi Jinping will be there for quite some time. I really do. And by the way, he could, it wouldn't surprise me also if he pulled the Medvedev swap like Putin did for a minute. So you know, you do you stand down for one term, you know, go into a lesser role and then come back as the overall leader. You know, it wouldn't surprise me if there was something like that that happened. Really interesting comment from Corbin26. I'm a second generation immigrant. I speak English, French, Spanish and my parents languages we believe in MAGA yet are still not seen as American enough. Do we have to abandon our original culture to belong? And I would say, look, I think personally that. And I'll open it up. But just from my personal answer would be that, you know, assimilation is a multi generational process. It just is.

[F]

I don't think it makes you any less American if you are a first generation immigrant or a second generation immigrant. I don't think you should listen to people who say otherwise. You're just as much of an American and you have equal rights compared to those people. So as far as I'm concerned, there's.

[A]

A difference between having the rights of an American citizen and being an American.

[F]

Well, I don't. What is, what are the qualifications and what allows this?

[A]

No, no, what I'm talking about is this multi generational process of listening.

[F]

I don't think you need to be here for multiple generations to be an equal American person. Somebody who here for multiple generations.

[A]

What one person can't be here for multiple generations. Multiple generations.

[F]

Or if their family was here for multiple generations, I don't think that would make. But there's one person more.

[E]

What are they saying? They don't want to be like, they're not. What about being proud of your heritage? I mean, my family's from Mexico. I don't know. I mean, I'm proud of my Mexican heritage. What is he. What exactly are they saying?

[A]

Well, it's.

[E]

They don't feel American making the distinction.

[A]

Between what is an American versus what is American citizen. And I think they were asking, you know, when do I become American?

[E]

If you live here legally, man, you're American. That's it.

[A]

Right, but there's a difference between being someone who you know is just an illegal immigrant versus someone who's been here for hundreds of years.

[D]

I'm more American than Elon.

[C]

You just said, you just said yourself that I can't be here for.

[D]

Be honest.

[F]

You can't be.

[A]

I, I said wrong. A family who's been here for hundreds of years.

[F]

So I'm trying to understand what's the difference between how American someone is and the citizenship. What's.

[A]

I think it's. One is, one is a legal piece of paper and one is a, you know, how proud you are.

[F]

I'm trying to Understand what is. What makes someone American be a. Beyond citizenship. Shared culture.

[A]

Shared culture, Shared heritage. Shared.

[E]

That's what makes America so rich and great, is that everyone has a different culture. Everyone brings it all to the table. Everyone here.

[A]

But there is, there is a core American culture, for sure. And that's what they mentioned.

[E]

Hot dogs and baseball. I mean, I, I mean, I know.

[A]

Which is our American thing.

[E]

Yeah, I know, and I love them. But I'm just saying, like. But everyone kind of brings something to the table. From Italy, from Mexico. We're all here together, you know, making America so rich and beautiful.

[C]

You know, the point that that is kind of being skirt talked about or that they're kind of dancing around is there are people that think that America is a white Protestant country. And if you're not white Protestant, you're kind of not a real American. And whether or not people, whether or not people, you know, and, and the.

[E]

Problem with this, tell that to the Indians.

[A]

I mean, American, where the Europeans came.

[C]

But I'm not making an argument pro for that or a. Against that. But the, the point that the person's getting at and, and that's kind of what the discussion online is now. The people that say talk about heritage Americans or real Americans, what they're talking about is people that are white Anglo Saxon Protestants. Right, right.

[E]

That's a part of America country.

[F]

Yeah, right.

[C]

And so that, and so the people that are not white Anglo Saxon Protestants, they're suspect somehow. And that's honestly the way that it goes.

[A]

I wouldn't necessarily say suspect. I would just say that you're from a country or a culture that is separate from the original Americans.

[C]

But I don't think the thing that.

[F]

Happens based on that and your American ness, I think depends on your belief in American values, which aren't inherently based to any original founding stock of the country.

[D]

So you just divide the world between Americans and future Americans.

[C]

People will make an argument that it does. People make an argument that America is for a particular people and that other people can't assimilate.

[F]

Yeah. And I'd argue that it's un American and not found in the Constitution.

[D]

Well, people can assimilate, but they're assimilating to something.

[A]

Right.

[F]

The American values. But the American values inherently.

[A]

I don't think America is just an idea, though. America is. The American people are people. The American nation is a nation of people.

[B]

You have to.

[E]

Right. And it takes different kinds of people to make America right.

[A]

I mean, America has changed over time. But you know, the idea that the American people are just this amorphous blob and that anyone can just automatically become American because you get a piece of paper. It's ridiculous on his face. I can't go to. I mentioned living in China. I speak Chinese. I can't just. I can't become Chinese.

[F]

Let me ask Nanja if I'm a, if I'm a member of the, the founding stock Mayflower, what have you. But I am a hardline communist leftist. Am I any less?

[A]

I've heard all these arguments all week.

[F]

Great. So you could have a good answer for it. Right? So what do you think? Like, am I any less American if I'm a die hard communist? Hate America, hate American values, want the country and the government to be open, overthrown. Am I more American than as the.

[A]

Super chatter who'd be a stupid American but you'd still be an American.

[F]

I'd be more of an American than the person who's here as a second generationer. I think this guy said his parents were.

[A]

It's a matter of history. It's not something that I can change.

[F]

In your eyes, is the person.

[A]

Not in my eyes. It's just a matter of history. Those.

[F]

It's a matter of your interpretation of what it means to be an American.

[D]

We're describing a mechanism at work.

[A]

Yeah, it's a historical mechanism. Those were the people who founded America.

[F]

Yes. So now we were valuing people on how much somebody is American or not.

[A]

Well, you're not valuing. I'm thinking about valuing. You're adding that word again.

[C]

Just like you saying evaluate, not valuing.

[A]

He was saying valuing.

[C]

You saying valuing.

[F]

I was trying to get to the point that I feel like you're purposefully not trying to tangle with. So again, this guy was saying he doesn't truly feel American or feels of like less of American because he was a second generation immigrant. I'm asking you now you already said you're asked this all the time, so you should have a well thought out out answer. You know, somebody again, founding stock came here on the Mayflower, but is currently in his day and age. A die hard communist, wants to overthrow the government, is a, is a revolutionary compared to the super chatter who said, you know, he's a second generation American. Are these people of equal Americanness to you? Is one more or less American to you?

[A]

One more or less? I mean they're separate things. So you're, you're taking someone's mental status and trying to imbibe that to their family's history. I'm talking about their family's history. I'm not talking about whether they're a liberal or a conservative or any of these things.

[F]

So you're saying that that guy would be more American, the die hard communist whose family came here and has been here since the Mayflower.

[A]

As, as it is, it's simply a matter of history.

[F]

Okay, so say like, I feel like you're. So you think that person is more.

[A]

That American person who comes from. We're very, we're like right on the end. So we should. I think we all agree this over.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Carry this over. Answer is yes. Obviously that person is from the founding stock of America and a person who is an immigrant, if they're not from that cult that, you know, that culture is not.

[F]

Yeah, I think the exact opposite. And I think that person is actually would be a threat to America and Americans.

[A]

But I'm not saying they're not a threat. But, but it's, it's also just a matter of history and it's just, it's just an immutable fact. Real mutable facts. So true. We, we are a little bit over. We did not shout out stuff. Are we able to do that surge, if that's okay? Because I want to make sure Nino gets a chance to shout out where he's from because he was a great guest.

[E]

Oh, I appreciate that. I like the ending. I was like, I want to be a referee.

[A]

Well, we have another hour. We have another hour, so let's, let's do that.

[F]

You can start swinging if you want to. He's being right. He's wrong.

[E]

No, just, just tell people where I, where I'm at. Is that what you're saying? Nino's Corner. Yeah, Nino's. Nino's Corner TV I left the fighting arena, the physical fight, a box to following everything on the deep State war. That's Nino's Corner TV. It's also Nino's Corner on YouTube and Rumble. Nino's Corner. X is Nino Boxer and that's about it.

[F]

Thank you guys for tuning in, everybody. I am a lot. Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Tim cast. I've. Did I bomb it too hard? Also have been on the immigration beat, which has been crazy. I might get the opportunity soon to do a couple of ride alongs, which would be a great opportunity. So I'm really thankful. Be on the lookout for that. You could follow me questions at Alad Eliyahu on Instagram and on Twitter.

[D]

Tate, find me at X on X at Realtape Brown on Instagram at Realtape Brown. See me in the morning show tomorrow. Be there.

[C]

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[A]

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