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Trump Floats SHUTTING DOWN FEMA, US Begins Widespread FREEZE of Foreign Aid w/ Elijah Schaffer
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Trump Floats SHUTTING DOWN FEMA, US Begins Widespread FREEZE of Foreign Aid w/ Elijah Schaffer
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Brett Dasovic
Donald Trump has been in office as the 47th President of the United States for I think five days now. And the world is on fire. The libs have been freaking out. There are people that are already complaining that Donald Trump is turning the world upside down. He's talking about send actually he's already started sending, sending criminals out of the country. There are planes flying him out. They're getting arrested from by ice. He's talking about getting rid of fema. He's talking about all kinds of stuff. So the, the we're going to start talking about that tonight. We got female turned out to be a disaster. Trump says we're going to talk about the State Department issuing immediate widespread pause on foreign aid. That's a pretty big deal. I think that we all kind of around here generally disapprove of foreign aid. So we'll talk about that. Target is reeling from the, from the return of Donald Trump and they're, they're getting rid of their, some of their DEI programs and that's not the only company to do it. There's a bunch of places there's the ATF is, is, is trying to hide their DEI people like shoving them under the rug and st stuff. Trump went to California and talked to Gavin Newsom added all kinds of strings to getting funding for the fires that are out there, which is not a, a surprise. I mean that's how there's the, the 21 year old age for, for drinking because all of your federal fundings come comes with strings attached. He's talking about oh yeah, that's the, the target one. And then we're talking about Mexico has, has, has decided that they' refuse to accept planes that are deporting people. We might get into the border issues. Sending military, the US Military down to the border. I think there's something along the lines of 3,000 troops that are going to be going and they're going, they're going, they're going to be armed. It's not just a support role. But before we get started, head on over to cast brew.com get yourself some Ian's graphene dream. The, the low acidity coffee look Man, I like coffee. Have coffee in here. It's, it's good. Everybody likes coffee. Go buy some. You can get yourself some@casprew.com I think there's some focus with Mr. Bocus still, right? We got focus with Mr. Bocus in there. Oh yeah, some of this focus with Mr. Bocus. The, the Appalachian nights is the one that everyone kind of is attracted to the most. But uh, going over there and get there, get yourself some coffee, then head over to timcast.com and join us. Become a member, join the Discord. Get in there and talk to like minded people. If you join the Discord, after a little trial period, you can call in and you can talk to us. You can make jokes. You know, there's a bunch of after shows and there's pre shows and there's other shows that are started. It's a, it's a great community that you should go ahead and get, get in there and be a part of. And joining us to talk about this and so much more, we have Elijah Schaefer.
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Elijah Schaefer
Nice to be here. You know, you said Ian's graphene dreams and I think the last time Ian had a little too many graphene dreams when he was a teenager, his mom found his crusty socks. That's what I'm saying. It was a graph dream. It was. He had graphene dreams. He came on my show, he talked about them. He's a talented guy. No, My name is Elijah Schaefer. I was here today on Culture War. Shout out to everybody who's there. I'm the CEO of Vigilant News and also have a new show on YouTube called Almost Serious. It's brand new, new episodes every Friday at 12pm Eastern. So if you watch the show on Fridays, you either catch it before right after Culture War or catch it later tonight. Check it out. Links in the description. Sign up because we need your support. And I'm also here to deport Elod.
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Alad Elahu
I think we're deporting you to Australia first. Elijah. It's been a long time. It's good to see you. Shabbat shalom, everybody. My name is Alad Elahu. I'm a field reporter here at Tim Cast News. I had a really good time covering the march for Life today. It was very. Politically, it was a good time. We, we'll say the least and we'll have coverage of that on the Tim Pool YouTube channel on Monday. Be on the lookout for that. Brett, what's up?
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Tim Pool
Oh, guys, it's Brett. I'm probably the least likely of anyone here to get deported, but my name is Brett. I do Pop culture crisis Monday through Friday at 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time. Happy to be here tonight. Let's get into it.
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Brett Dasovic
So FEMA turned out to be a disaster. Trump calls for overhaul, eradication of Federal Emergency Aid Agency. Look, I like the idea of downsizing the government and whatever shape that takes, I'm probably going to be for so the Post Millennial says. On Thursday, President Donald Trump said he will be signing an executive order to reform the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or fema, or get rid of the agency altogether. During a stop in Asheville, North Carolina, an area ravaged by Hurricane Helene, Trump held a press conference in the airport and said, I'll also be signing an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally reforming and overhauling fema. Or maybe getting rid of female. Trump was on the ground to assess hurricane damage months after two tore through in rapid succession. I think, frankly, FEMA's not good, Donald Trump says. I think when you have a problem like this, I think you want to go and whether it's a Democrat or Republican governor, you want to use your state to fix it and not waste time calling fema.
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Tim Pool
Trump added, well, I mean, does anybody really find it strange, given North Carolina and Hawaii, that people would be doubtful about whether they're able to actually do anything of note?
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Brett Dasovic
No, no, no. I don't, I don't think that it's a stretch at all. I mean, I think that personally, I think that the, the federal government should be downsized. So if they can streamline getting funds to disaster areas and you don't have to have FEMA to, to be the arbiter of who does and does not get the funds.
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Tim Pool
So who would it like? If it wasn't to come through fema, then it would come through what?
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Brett Dasovic
I don't, I don't know. I'm not sure.
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Alad Elahu
Through the state instead of the federal government?
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Tim Pool
No. So you're saying not even, not even.
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Alad Elahu
Have the, As I understand, FEMA's federal. And then if they didn't have their help, it be through the state.
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Tim Pool
Okay.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah. And they say FEMA stands for things like fails every month. Absolutely. Like you can guarantee whatever they do, they're going to fail in. I think Trump is being smart here because he's not saying we're going to stop the federal funds to disaster zones. What he's pointing out is that fema, like the TSA or any of these government agencies is probably like bloated with waste and corruption. You see that right Like FEMA takes sometimes days to a week or more to get on the field. You already have emergency crews from locals going out. Plus once they get there, they sort of get in the way of locals actually helping. And so they end up causing more problems than good. And they, and they were. That's against Trump supporters.
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Brett Dasovic
That's, that is, that's true. That's true. That's. And it's also a great point. They do take the time that they take, especially in the modern era. Like, it's not a surprise when a hurricane hits.
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Elijah Schaefer
Right. They're like, oh my gosh, who would.
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Brett Dasovic
Have thunk, you know, watching a live.
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Elijah Schaefer
Stream for two weeks about it?
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Brett Dasovic
You know, where were you? Whether it be, whether it be a, a hurricane or the snow that just happened across the Southeast, the, the into Florida, in places that don't normally get snow, you had, you know, it's 20, 25 and there's a significant, you know, there's a significant infrastructure to predict the weather and predict these kind of things. Sure. When it comes to something like an earthquake, you know, if there were an earthquake in California, then okay, you know, everyone gets surprised about an earthquake. But even forest fires, the, the fires that California is experiencing going through, there's, it's not a surprise that California, California is having fires. They have fires every year. So the idea that, that you have to take so long to get under the ground to people start helping, I don't think that, that, that's actually the case. I think that you're right, it is. Federally, it's bloat from the federal government.
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Tim Pool
What was the purpose? I remember the story about federal government employees getting involved in saying that locals couldn't help. Was that something to do with liability? Like, I was, I was surprised by that, but I didn't know any more about it.
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Brett Dasovic
I don't know anything about why. A lot of times the jurisdiction, their, their, there's arguments over who does and does not have jurisdiction. So I'm not sure. But you know, you had also made another good point, Elijah. The, the fact that fema, like everything else in the federal government has been politicized.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, they've been super politicized. I also think that, you know, it's not safe to say that they don't know there's gonna be an earthquake. Because I'm from la, it's like we all know that there's going to be even an average, you know, family has to have an earthquake prepared emergency kit, you know, in their home. The state tells you to do it. Your county tells you to do it. I mean, this is common stuff, right? I've been at least in a strong enough earthquake that knocked my TV over and broke it. You know, born and raised in Whittier. With the Whittier earthquake, it was really, really catastrophic right there on the fault lines in the Whittier hills. Shout out to the people in East LA over there. But, you know, that being said, I mean, not only that, but they discriminated against Americans. And to answer your question, I mean, okay, on one hand, I gotta support FEMA because there's the most lesbians, I think, in the history of the department currently serving there right now. And shout out to those people who are into crafts and sometimes you use scissors, whether it's in the classroom or in the bedroom. I mean, good, good for you. But, but to the rest of you guys and who are out there, I mean, I don't know. I mean, lesbians have not been known to do much more than maybe be involved in domestic violence. So I think one of the main things that I, that I take away from this is that these agencies are about, you know, WOKE policies. They're about replacing, you know, qualified individuals. When I was there, I remember people couldn't get jobs in departments like this in LA because they were white men. And so these places are corrupt institutionally on who they hire. They're bloated in their budgets, they have slow response teams. They're also discriminatory in their handbooks towards people based on their politics. And you said, why don't they let people go? People do speculate on this, but what I've heard, the best theory is that the government, FEMA is, is in such a catastrophic position that they have to stop American citizens from helping because it'll make them look bad and they have to be needed and wanted. So if Americans are faster at responding, getting supply chains, you know, set up faster and are more reliable than fema, then what does that mean about fema? It should be dissolved. And they don't want that. And they're in a very dire position. So they were trying to stop that in North Carolina. So instead they just stopped helping. It's like they just stopped.
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Brett Dasovic
I mean, it's the idea that a, that the Federal Emergency Management would, would stop, right? They, they, they would say, look, we need to prevent people helping. We need to prevent the locals from helping because the, the help will make us look bad. Part of me says, no, that can't be true. There's no way that that would happen. But then I also Think about this is the federal government and this is probably the least far fetched and least crazy thing. You know, the thing that's, that that's been discussed about FEMA and how they distribute aid.
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Tim Pool
Well, remember the X Files predicted a long time ago that the fema, that FEMA was an absolutely evil agency that had to do with alien abductions and you know, coercion between the United States government and alien colonists. But, you know, same thing.
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Brett Dasovic
So if there were an alien race that visited the U.S. do you think that FEMA would be involved and they would be facilitating?
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Tim Pool
Well, if there was a crash. Right, like they crash in Roswell and they, you know, you don't send any unit other than FEMA over there to get them. Absolutely.
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Brett Dasovic
At all?
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Tim Pool
Yeah.
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Brett Dasovic
No one else?
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Tim Pool
No, no one else.
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Brett Dasovic
Not even like the military?
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Tim Pool
Well, I'm sure that the, I mean, military contractors would be working with them. Right.
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Brett Dasovic
With FEMA or with fema? The aliens with fema. Okay.
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Elijah Schaefer
At this point, under Biden's administration, we were like one year away from having FEMA be literal aliens, like illegal aliens. Right. And on top of that, I always thought it's weird, you know, like FEMA can't get aid across LA because AIDS spreads quicker in Los Angeles than anywhere in the entire country. I mean, look at West Hollywood, right? So it's like, you know, I don't.
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Brett Dasovic
Think that it's actually.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, yeah. Well, well, well, like, okay, but jokes aside, jokes aside, you know, we do know LA is mismanaged. We know that the federal government's mismanage. This isn't sort of a, like, is anyone surprised? And so I think what's going to happen here is this is going to be a battle against people again, believing the mainstream media taking the establishment institutional position versus believing our eyes. Right. Once again, it's like, you know, did Elon Musk say Kyle? Yes.
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Tim Pool
No.
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Elijah Schaefer
Did he do it on purpose? No. Obviously he was saying he's autistic and he was saying, you know, I give out my heart or whatever and he's autistic. So you're making fun of a disabled person. You guys who are accusing him of racism are ableist. But the most important part about that is it's like, like look, we can look with our eyes. We know what the mainstream media is saying. We know their lies, we know their tactics. And so with someone like fema, we just saw them credibly fail and get exposed for anti Trump corruption. If you're new to this, you know, basically there was a memorandum sent out to teams in the recovery in Florida that literally told them directly to overlook homes with Trump sites. And that's on top of their handbook that said to not hit up white areas or affluent areas first, but help queer and black people first. This is in their handbook. So when you have an agency like that and we have the evidence, the media is going to be like, Trump's trying to stop aid, when in reality, I think he just. We can see, well, somebody's got to finally fix these government budgets and do something, because these aren't really working. Right. I mean, am I the only person who sees this?
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Tim Pool
No. The problem is, though, the headlines that get to be created out of his budget cuts and stuff like that are too good for the politically uninformed. They'll read it and they will take it as fact without understanding the deeper process behind why the cuts are coming.
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Brett Dasovic
I mean, I feel like that that's, that's going to be the, the situation just broadly when it comes to the average person that isn't consuming political content regularly. Like, so it's my sense that your average normie that isn't really, you know, really read into politics probably spends about 30 to 30 minutes to an hour per week on their political information. Right. These are the people that, that have lives, they have kids, they have jobs, and they'll catch a couple things that they hear on TV or on. On the Internet somehow. Maybe they'll. Maybe they have an X account, but if they have an ex account, it's unlikely that they're not really read in at all. So they get their information, you know, half from the morning, you know, local news and half from the View, which is, I mean, which means they're. They're mostly uninformed or.
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Tim Pool
It's like when Bill Burr talks about when he was. And he talks about, you know. Well, I think it was handled just fine. What you're saying is there's a difference between government mismanagement and firefighters doing their best, the limited resources they had to fight the fires. Now, the average person who's not paying close attention is going to assume that he means both, but we understand that he is just uninformed and doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Brett Dasovic
Yeah.
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Alad Elahu
I think the larger issue at hand when it comes to FEMA is that what Americans really want is effective emergency disaster relief whenever and wherever it happens. And what we're looking for is the most effective way to deal with it. I think Ron Desantis proved over and over again that the state was more effective in handling it than on the state level rather than the federal level was more effective. If Trump's going to move forward with abolishing fema, so long as I think he redirects those funds to the states, who should have a better handling and understanding of what's going on the state in the state than the federal government does is the right way to go. But at the end of the day, that's what the American people want. They want effective disaster relief. They want fire departments that promote and hire people based on meritocracy. But you're based on some LGBT or DEI stuff. I think the L A.
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Elijah Schaefer
You saw that, right?
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Alad Elahu
That was great. Not police department. The fire department had lighting. The top three people there were all lesbians. And there's a short video of what that's.
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Brett Dasovic
That's. Hold on. The, the points that you're making about Ron Sanderson and, and the states handling it, that's really going to depend on who's in charge of the state. Because if you look at the way that, you know, LA and California have been governed, it's an absolute disaster. It's a disaster just as bad as the fight.
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Alad Elahu
They're set up together.
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Brett Dasovic
Hold on. Ron DeSantis is the most competent, at least as far as anyone can tell, is the most competent, you know, governor in the United States. Whether you're talking about his, whether you're talking about his management of emergencies or you're talking about the way that they run elections and stuff, Florida is really the exemplary state in the U.S. can.
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Elijah Schaefer
I caveat on that? I'm not going to correct you, but I think what's important for this, because we sometimes can forget that, you know, being from, from New York, I think you are. I'm from la. I now live in Florida. But, you know, these are a little bit of like elitist bubbles, especially depending on the region. The reason why I believe we think that DeSantis is the best GU governor is because he's kind of like one of the only good, significant governors. And this sounds so dismissive of the rest of the countries, but when you have states that are as large as Florida, as California, as New York, with these highly populated, you know, metropolitan centers, the ability for corruption. Chicago. Right. In Illinois to be there is pretty much unavoidable guarantee.
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Brett Dasovic
But.
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Elijah Schaefer
Right. But I'm saying it's unavoidable. And so it's almost like it's an anomaly and we just haven't seen it. And I think that there probably are.
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Brett Dasovic
Equally adequate governors say that it's articulate that differently. Are you saying that, that Florida is an anomaly?
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Elijah Schaefer
Because it's an anomaly because of the size that it is and the amount of money and the size of its economy? Because it's the size of an average nation around the world and yet it operates strategically and in, in such a way that we do not see such widespread corruption that does not benefit the average people. Meaning there's no property tax. Yet at the same time, it's managed much better than Texas. I have a business in Texas. The roads there are terrible. Florida, they're not horrible. You know, you can't get anywhere here because of the traffic. But that's, I mean, there because, but that's another story. But I think what like, and I mean this is praise for, for DeSantis. Not a, not critique. I think there are some very, very, very wonderful and amazing governors. When Kristi Noem has apparently managed her state well. But really is South Dakota something that people in South. Right. Can we really compare the skill set and the, the corroboration it takes with, with lateral movement to manage South Dakota? I'm not saying I could do it. I'm just saying we look at DeSantis and that's to show you that our leaders are capable. Like, and I want to say this to not just governors. He's at like a federal level responsibility that when you're managing 20, 30 million, 40 million people, it can be done. And so when we look at Chicago, when we look at Houston, when we look at Dallas, we look at la, when we look at New York, what the hell are you doing? Because south metropolitan Miami Dade area, I mean, some parts of it, thanks to some of the, some of the recent migration are pretty problematic, but overall the state is functioning pretty damn well. And I feel like to me it just makes me think how much corruption is going on and exactly where is the problem? Because if it can be done there, there's no damn reason why it shouldn't be able to be done somewhere else.
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Brett Dasovic
I think that that was the point that I was making.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, no, it's just caveating. You're like onto it.
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Brett Dasovic
Yeah, I think I, I mean, obviously I totally agree with you. I think that, that Florida is the best run state in, in the US at least to, to an outsider, as far as I can tell. And I do think that, that the people that are running it matters. I think that, that you're not going to get that out of Illinois. You're not going to get, and you're not going to get that with Chicago with The way with the people that they elect, you know, their, their mayor is not, is. Is completely captured by the whole leftist ideology. And, and as long as that's the situation, you, you can't help but run into corruption and, and all sorts of problems from the, the state. So as much as I, I do agree with you a lot, but I think that, that, I think that it's, it's exemplary of the people does being.
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Tim Pool
Okay. So I was thinking about how in Bush's second term.
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Brett Dasovic
Right.
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Tim Pool
A lot of people said that Katrina was a huge downfall to him. Yeah, right. Is that even like if you get rid of FEMA and you take your emergency management organization money and you push it to the states, does that actually take some of the heat off a president on the federal side if it's then done exclusively through the state, even if the money is coming from the federal level down, I mean, because there's no organization to link it back to him.
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Alad Elahu
The idea is that the state would be able to more effectively with the disaster. But I feel as though some states are more prepared on purpose and other states aren't on purpose because they know the federal funding would be coming on the other side. Is one of the issues here. One of the things too, as far as the governors go, I think there are half decent. I don't know, is it kosher to say here on here there have decent Democrat governors. I just some of, I think the, some. Some of us tend to stay in a bubble and we're willing to overlook them. So for example, in Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro I think makes an effective governor. And in the same way how Governor Ron DeSantis was able to repair bridges after whatever disaster. I think on the i95 collapse, Josh Shapiro was also able to quickly move.
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Brett Dasovic
To fix that disaster in 95.
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Alad Elahu
Yeah, there was a big bridge collapse on.
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Brett Dasovic
I was in Maryland.
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Tim Pool
More than a few.
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Elijah Schaefer
I don't know during the hurricane or what.
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Alad Elahu
No, there was like also in Pennsylvania there was like an oil tanker that.
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Brett Dasovic
Hit like a bridge.
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Alad Elahu
That was in Maryland.
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Brett Dasovic
That was in Maryland. Yeah. 95 doesn't go through Baltimore. Yeah, it was in Baltimore. That's.
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Elijah Schaefer
Remember that. Yeah, the DEI at mayor.
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Brett Dasovic
Yeah.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, he forgot to get his.
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Alad Elahu
So there was one. There was a. I'm reading it now. There's a. Well, there's a collapsed bridge in Pennsylvania that he was able to quickly and effectively build back up by skirting different regulations and like making people work.
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Tim Pool
More than a few people here especially have said that it was insane that they chose Tim Walls to run. You know, I guess we found out later that Shapiro didn't want any to anything to do with it. And I think that's because they understand.
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Brett Dasovic
No, you'll kill my political aspiration.
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Elijah Schaefer
Smart.
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Tim Pool
That Shapiro was a more effective candidate and that was why it was so surprising that they didn't choose him.
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Brett Dasovic
Yeah.
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Alad Elahu
All right.
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Brett Dasovic
So let's, let's go on to this next story here. We're gonna hold on. Give me this. Give me this.
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Elijah Schaefer
Are you gonna get the new shirt?
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Brett Dasovic
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Brett Dasovic
State Marco Rubio halted spending Friday on most existing foreign aid grants for 90 days. The order would shock State Department officials. Appears to apply to funding for military assistance to Ukraine, which I think is a positive. Rubio's guidance issued to all diplomatic and consular posts post requires department staffers to issue stop work orders on nearly all foreign on nearly all existing foreign assistance awards. Excuse me. According to the document which was obtained by Politico, it is effective immediately. It appears to go further than President Donald Trump's recent executive order which instructed the department to pause foreign aid grants for 90 days pending review by the secretary. It had not been clear from the president's order if it would affect already appropriated funds or Ukraine aid. What do you guys think about stopping foreign aid? Personally, I love the idea of ending all foreign aid because just like I think that that when you give individuals money, you turn them into wards of the state and you make them dependent on the state, I think when you give other countries foreign aid, I think that it does make them dependent on the United States. I will say the one thing that the one I think positive argument about foreign aid is when you have as much stupid debt as the United States does and you give foreign countries dollars, that incentivizes them to spend the dollars and use the dollars, meaning that your your currency is going to be propped up by that as opposed to people stop using it if they have the money and it's valuable or they see value in it, they're going to spend it and that's good for the, the profit for propping up the dollar. Now, that's not saying that I like the idea of foreign aid. I think that it's a net negative. But at least I want to talk about the, some of pos. The arguments that would, people would consider a pro. But what, what, what are we thinking here? Is there, is there anybody here? Alad, what do you think about foreign aid, man?
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Alad Elahu
I think foreign aid is an important foreign policy that we have in our country. Having said that, I think for way too long American foreign aid has been taken for granted and been taken advantage of by other countries and, and every single, all foreign aid that we are giving out to people does need to be reevaluated for how important and useful it is to advance American policy objectives around the world.
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Elijah Schaefer
That's a good question. I mean, look, the stopping the foreign aid thing, it's always going to come with an exception, right? And I think right now there's three countries that are, Am I incorrect that it's still three countries that are Egypt and Israel. It was Jordan and Israel. Right. But I think that Israel.
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Brett Dasovic
So I heard this story the other day. I think it was two or three days ago, and I don't know. And I, this particular piece that CNN is reporting or political is reporting here. This is actually new today. So last I heard it was Egypt, Jordan and Israel. I don't know if it's still Jordan. I think that there's an update because it said that the, the proposal was from Trump originally. And then what Marco Rubio did actually goes further than what Trump was talking about. But go ahead. I don't mean to cut you.
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Elijah Schaefer
No, yeah, look, and these things could be changing live as we go. I mean, there's a bridge that collapsed, collapsed in Pennsylvania, a bridge that collapsed in Maryland. The point is, it's, you know, it's kind of sad that the state of our infrastructure, the bridges are collapsing. Right. And there's more than one. And then that's the issue. So with something like this, too, it feels kind of similar. It's like, okay, well, Egypt and Israel, let's be honest, it's the same foreign aid package. If you really look at our objectives, you know, some people could argue in favor of that, right? Could say, well, I mean, this is where we're objectively giving to an ally. I mean, obviously, I would probably, you know, be on the other side of the camp. And I Would like disagree that this is an ally. I don't think ally. I think allies don't just take that. They give back a lot, you know, particularly in your times of need. But we don't see a lot of the two, the two way giving in the way I'd like, I'd like to see, you know, per se. So, I mean, I understand that a lot of people are really sold out for Israel either spiritually. I know that there's a lot of people that are captured, you know, ideologically outside of, you know, people blame APAC for everything. Some people are just Protestant Christians, which I think people really dismiss in this country. And I understand that it's probably really easy to keep the money flowing. Then there's so much political lobbying. I mean, Israel pays too much money to politically lobby to give up their foreign aid. So to me, I still think this is a win. I know people are going to hate me for this, but it's like, look, if we even got the political, you know, lobbying cornered enough with Qatar and other nations that we were able to melt down our foreign aid down to at least two countries, am I happy with it? Is it perfect? But this is my opinion on the people that are constantly negative about this Trump administration. Yeah, Trump's a Zionist. He's open about it and he's not going to stop supporting Israel. And if you thought you were voting for him and that's what he's going to do, he's not, he's also not bringing about the Fourth Reich and he's not a white nationalist and he's not a white supremacist and he's not a national socialist, he's a centrist. And he said during his inauguration, these bringing about colorblind meritocracy, it's the most fence sitting, you know, bullshit that you could possibly say if you were trying to be right wing. He's like, he's a, he's a moderate 90s Democrat. Well, yeah, he's just a moderate guy. But unfortunately for us, it's like, you know, things have gone so far left that even just pulling towards some common sense, I'm going to say as someone who would be considered staunchly right, I still celebrate the win towards the center. And so even if I, if I could sit here and say, yeah, I'm not happy that we're still giving five, six billion dollars to these countries who are politically lobbying us, and it shows you we don't have full control of our government, the fact if we can even get the fire contained 30 or 40%. I don't want to be one of those guys that's just, oh, this isn't a win because we didn't get all of our countries.
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Brett Dasovic
So yeah, I'm of the mindset that is if any, any money that the government doesn't spend is a victory because the government is always, always not just spending money, it's always increasing spending. I think it's a big win because of the fact that we are not giving money to you to Ukraine, which is. That's been the biggest consumer of, of American foreign aid for the past two years. Definitely I'd love to see foreign aid stopped going to Israel and to Jordan and to Egypt and, and all. Like I, like I said, I' Overall, I think that foreign aid is a.
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Alad Elahu
When it comes to foreign aid, I do think we're missing a little bit of the forest for the trees, I think is the saying. Because beyond America supporting other countries financially and sending arms, we run the world economy. And the backbone of the world economy is based off of Americans ability to police the seas and allow free trade to occur. So if Americans weren't willing to subsidize free trade globally, it wouldn't exist in the world system would collapse. We have troops all throughout Asia right now that act in a way of foreign aid. And like people often ask why, why do we have this foreign policy of trying to support many of these other nations? It's because if we didn't, then the world order would look completely different. If the American military wasn't there to help support South Koreans now with troops stationed there, there would likely be war to continue there. If we don't send money to Egypt, the Egyptian government would likely collapse. If we don't continue to support NATO, which people tend to overlook, then Russia will definitely encroach more on Eastern Europe. So Europe. How do I know that?
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Brett Dasovic
And I said I don't know that. I believe that. I think that. I think they'd go after. I think they go after Ukraine, but I don't know that they're looking.
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Alad Elahu
I think there's a reason that other countries like Finland and Sweden, I believe decided to join NATO after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. I think Ukrainian Russian ambitions in Eastern Europe Europe are obviously there's like NATO.
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Elijah Schaefer
Lobbyists and expansionists who like have this other.
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Alad Elahu
I think it's within our interest to help prop up the American world order that we continue to.
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Elijah Schaefer
Is it Switzerland changing a. A centuries old, you know, know dogma and suddenly supporting Ukraine in a conflict. I mean that why do you think.
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Alad Elahu
They'Re going to join NATO?
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Elijah Schaefer
That is why do.
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Brett Dasovic
Okay, well, first of all, Switzerland actually is supporting Ukraine.
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Elijah Schaefer
Switzerland came into. Got out of neutrality. Well, they got out of neutrality on Ukraine. Yeah. And I, I'm not going to go to the details. You can look that up. But it's. But in terms of like their idea of like their support, they were vocal. There was a politicians. It completely broke composure. That. That threw me off too. When like Swiss politicians. It threw me off. Off. I don't know if Switzerland ended up ever giving arms or they ended up. Did they.
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Alad Elahu
They both joined NATO. But I want.
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Elijah Schaefer
Why do you think they ended up siding with.
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Alad Elahu
Why do you think these countries are feeling compelled to join NATO?
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Elijah Schaefer
Okay. Okay. That is a very long. I mean very short. Short and simple. I think that there is just like we have a pack lobbying in our government. Is NATO lobbying. I think this has to do with unification and military expansionism in the military industrial complex. The more NATO countries that they lobby to get in, then they have to buy the weapons from our military industrial complex companies. This is about continuing the war machine. I don't think it's because Finland wanted to or was. Was better off and I don't think Switzerland was. I think it's better off for Finland in greater danger.
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Alad Elahu
Obvious.
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Elijah Schaefer
I think being a neutral border country would, would create actually more strength for them because Finland could then in many ways play both allies to both countries and say, well, we're a net neutral, we'll buy from both. Then they might be able to negotiate for cheap gas. You have countries competing to bring sovereignty into the nation and to give them all the resources they want at an exchange rate that would be beneficial to people. I'm just saying I don't think certain countries joining NATO is beneficial and particularly I don't think NATO is beneficial to the United States considering how little people pay for their own.
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Alad Elahu
I think you talk about a lot of these things very ominously because you're missing like the most obvious answer to these questions. So why would Finland want to join NATO and have access to the best weapons on earth to help deter a potential future invasion? That's why these countries want to join NATO, because they feel threatened and they know that NATO is one of the most powerful defenses.
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Elijah Schaefer
So Ukraine's not NATO. They're getting a lot of money.
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Brett Dasovic
Wanted to be.
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Alad Elahu
They wanted to.
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Elijah Schaefer
I know, but they didn't. And they're still getting the weapons. What does that tell the rest of people? You don't have to join native.
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Alad Elahu
You want Access to the best weapons on planet earth and the guarantee from the United States that they'll defend you because you were scared of countries invading you. Like, I think it makes a lot.
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Elijah Schaefer
Why would you be afraid if you were neutral, had good form.
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Alad Elahu
Why are you afraid? Because Russia is very bellicose in invading its neighboring countries.
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Elijah Schaefer
Maybe because they're, they're cozing up and they're. The government is being radicalized towards a pro NATO, not even a pro West. West, because the west didn't need. Doesn't need NATO in its current form. In fact, it's been radicalized. We've continually violated our pacts. We've. We're expansionists and we've actually been provoking Russia.
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Alad Elahu
We're expansionist, but Russia is invading Ukraine. But is Russia expansionist?
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Elijah Schaefer
Okay, the U. S. Never, we never even invaded Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Alad Elahu
We weren't trying to our country in that way. But Elijah. No, I'm trying to understand. Do you believe that Russia is an expansionist? Do you have, do you think Putin has expansionist ambitions in Ukraine?
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Elijah Schaefer
I think it's unification. I don't think it's expansion. Yeah, I do. I do.
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Alad Elahu
Outrageous.
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Elijah Schaefer
I. I do. I, I believe, I mean, I believe.
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Alad Elahu
That you don't believe in any of the sovereignty of Ukraine or.
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Elijah Schaefer
I do not believe in eastern Ukraine sovereignty. No.
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Alad Elahu
Eastern Ukraine sovereignty.
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Brett Dasovic
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Elijah Schaefer
I don't, I don't believe so.
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Alad Elahu
So not the dumbass. What part of Ukraine is sovereign? Not cry me, not dumbass. But what about the rest of it? West Ukraine, if you will. Well, that I've ever heard such a term.
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Elijah Schaefer
I mean, I'm not, I'm not a geopolitical. I'm not deciding the borders of the countries, but I do know the Russian ethnic people who already decided or voted to secede and to join Russia and also to give themselves Russian passports. I think they have the right to secede, lead and join Russia. So I do believe, especially with all the shelling, they have the right to.
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Alad Elahu
Join NATO if that's what they want to do.
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Elijah Schaefer
Do they have the right? Why would you ask me if I have?
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Alad Elahu
No, because you're saying they could decide what have you have the right to say that if they want to be in a part of Russia, everyone has to do whatever the hell they want to join NATO. Do you think they should be able to join NATO?
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Elijah Schaefer
If I want to. They should be able to if they. If the US Is paying for NATO, I don't believe the US should allow them. But you asked me if they should should be allowed to. If they, if they want to, they should be allowed to want to join. I can't stop Ukraine, but I think the US should block Ukrainians from joining NATO. They should have. I think we could have avoided this war if we had been stricter in demilitarizing and actually trying to lower tensions. This war was avoidable. I also think, I think that's so.
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Alad Elahu
Naive Ukraine, and that's going to stop Russia.
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Elijah Schaefer
But I do think Putin was dumb as well.
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Alad Elahu
It's the most backwards way to think.
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Elijah Schaefer
Oh, it's, it's not though. It's not. If you look at, if you look at the expansion of NATO, I do believe this current conflict, especially when you talk about the US literally waging a coup inside of Ukraine about, about 11. Well, 11 years ago now, about. And then also with the, with the annexation of Crimea, this has been cooking for. This is a war that's been going on for over 10 years. It escalated with an invasion into what they, what Ukraine calls sovereign territory, but what Russia sees as its own and its own citizenry. It's not a black and white picture. I don't think there's anything I couldn't say wrong. Like I have no authority. It's like, well, what do you think? Finland can't want to be NATO, dude. I'm not Finnish. I have no.
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Alad Elahu
We're the leaders of NATO. So, I mean, no, I know.
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Elijah Schaefer
I have no freaking clue. I don't live in Finland. I don't know what their domestic and internal problems are and why they would want to. I know why other, other countries or why we've expanded. I know what lobbying happened from the military industrial complex to try to convince and lobby politicians so that they would be able to buy our weapons, to keep our imports on our exports up, up on our weaponry because they have to buy our weapons and NATO approved weaponry. I know that. And I'm saying I don't believe that the expansion of NATO was really about protecting Europe. I do think it was about money and power.
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Brett Dasovic
Do you think that Ukraine should be allowed to join NATO?
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Alad Elahu
I think if Ukraine was in NATO, Russia would not have attacked.
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Brett Dasovic
That's not what I asked. Do you think that Ukraine should be allowed to join NATO at this point?
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Alad Elahu
No, because they're in a conflict and you need to settle all your border disputes if you want to be a part of NATO.
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Brett Dasovic
I think that they should have been allowed to join before Russia invaded. And by Russia invaded, I mean after, after the 2014 election shenanigans. And, and so I think 20 because.
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Alad Elahu
Of the election shenanigans is when Putin sent the famous little green men. Yes. And that's what they. They had a border dispute following that. And if you have a border dispute and have an open conflict going on, we don't want to bring you in because we don't want to be dragged into that.
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Brett Dasovic
So then prior to that, do you think they should have been allowed to join Ukraine? So say, say that in the 90s, when, when, when the, the, when, you know, Russia, when it was like, look, we got to get these nukes out of Ukraine, we prom in the United States, made agreements that, that said, we'll protect you from Russia if you, if you give up the nukes. Do you think they should have been allowed to join NATO? Then?
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Alad Elahu
There were some other stipulations, like the issue of corruption and different things like that. But, yeah, I think it would be a good thing. And if they met, I think now Trump wants it to be like 5% of GDP. Yeah, I think they would have made a great ally. I'm just like, how. Polling is one of the best NATO allies currently. They contribute something like 4.8% of GDP to military spending, and they help contribute to making NATO such a powerful force. And you'll actually notice the further east you go with NATO allies, you'll see them spending a higher percent of GDP on military. And why all of this is. We don't need to put our heads in the sand if we pretend we don't know what's going on. They're all more nervous about a Russian invasion. As opposed to. Are you neo.
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Elijah Schaefer
Jason, I'm not doing that as an insult. Are you neocon adjacent?
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Alad Elahu
Neocon adjacent. What is a neocon? I believe in peace through strength.
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Elijah Schaefer
That's. Okay. That's. That's all. That's all that's.
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Alad Elahu
And I believe Trump believes the same thing. And Trump is encouraging NATO countries to increase to 5% of GDP spending.
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Elijah Schaefer
That's a very broad statement.
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Alad Elahu
No. Increased military spending.
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Elijah Schaefer
Cutting where? And. And with who? Right? Who's increasing that spending?
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Alad Elahu
Allies to our Asian allies. To our Israel.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, it's like. It's like. No, but I think Trump is an. Is a nationalist. And, you know, and I think that he's actually. No, I don't think he's. I think what Trump actually is doing, he's actually tried to modernize our own military. So he's actually come home first. In my purse, from what I've seen, is saying he came in his first administration, realized that not only was Air Force One outdated that we have a new one coming in 2020 or 2030. The protection and the military. I think it's, it's technically considered an air force. Right. A property of the military. So that was outdated. We have a new one coming out. He, it would have, it still won't be finished until he's out of this term. So he's looking at future, future, you know, positions. He's, he's getting the military set up for the future here. Not only that, he's helped modernize the navy. We know he started the space Force. My, my, my only derision or difference with you is I, I do believe that the American military machine has gotten too greedy and I do believe that there are multiple aspects and maybe this is where you and I might agree more because I don't think you're a very pro war individual and I'm a little, my libertarian anti war Scott Horton side comes out. But I do believe that the military industrial complex is very sneaky. And it's not just by waging endless wars in Iraq or Afghanistan that we have weaponry that we leave behind. I think adding NATO members has been a crucial and vital part of. Just like the EU needed to add new members to keep its bureaucracy running or the USCIS immigration in our country needs to increase immigration because they increase fees and now it's completely run through paperwork fees. Like a lot of the bureaucracy and the back end are run by expansionism. And sometimes we need to realize, you know, it's not always so maniacal and malevolent and evil. Sometimes it's about money.
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Brett Dasovic
I want to, I want to chime in here. This, the, in. It's my sense that the future of the military industrial complex is going to be less and I think the, the Ukraine war kind of exemplifies this. It's going to be less about, you know, tanks and, and bombs and stuff and more about intel and, and I think that in the next 30 years, Lockheed Martin's not going to be as important as Google is. I think that the tech companies and, and the AI companies that you see, I think Nvidia is going to be, is going to be more important U.
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Tim Pool
S based, U S based companies.
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Brett Dasovic
Well, I mean I would like, I would like to see them be U S based companies. But yes, I think, I do think that tech companies are going to actually be where the, the, the, the frontier of the military industrial complex because as AI becomes more and more important and as robotics becomes more and more important, you're going to see less Less reliance on manned systems, you're going to see less reliance on, on, on, you know, conventional forces.
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Tim Pool
But that, I mean that seems to be the way in which the military industrial complex has captured at least the, the former anti war left who talk about, when you talk about where the spending is going, they try to point out that the weapons are being made here in America so American wages are being paid for it. Well, which is we know is really just a Trojan horse to allow you to make more arms and sell more weapons overseas. Please.
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Alad Elahu
Elijah, I just wanted to follow up because I think big picture where we disagree is that I believe in American values and American hegemony worldwide. And I think it's important to stand for those values and support our allies worldwide and not cede any room to the Chinese in the Pacific or the Persians in the Middle east or the Russians irredentists dreams in Eastern Europe. So I think that's the bigger picture idea of where we disagree because if we do pull back in NATO though, if we do pull back from the Pacific, if we don't want to start continue supporting our allies in the Middle east, we are only ceding ground to our enemies who have the opposite values that we do here.
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Brett Dasovic
I will, I do, I do think, I do agree that the United States is in a position where the more the US Pulls back, the more the, it will create a vacuum and the more that will be filled by other countries. We were talking earlier and whereas I don't think that, you know, I don't want the US to go and start any kind of other wars or anything like that. But the U.S. if the U.S. does, you know, shrink its role in the world, that's going to have a corresponding effect on the, the dollar and it's going to have corresponding effect on the influence that the United States has. And I don't think the American people really want that. I think again, you're, you know, Joe Six Pack or whatever you want to say, the average person that isn't politically, you know, dialed in, they don't want to see a significant change in their life. And I think that, that the average person is completely unprepared for the kind of changes that they would see if the US did become less of the global hegemon. So now whether or not, whether or not you think the US is a force for good or force for bad is neither, is actually neither here nor there. It's just that when, when the US Stops being the global hegemon, that makes a massive change in the whole world hold on the problem makes a massive change in the whole world world. And I don't think that the average person has really thought through the ramifications in their daily life to that kind of change.
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Tim Pool
Well the other problem is that when they see the way that disasters happen in America and there's no help for American citizens, they're not thinking five steps ahead. They're saying why are you spending trillions of dollars, billions of dollars overseas when you don't even have the money to help us here? And they're not thinking about all of those steps and what it means to be a global power power.
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Brett Dasovic
And that, that actually speaks to my, my exact point. The average American doesn't even understand how things are funded. People think I paid work management platforms.
- [43:15]
Elijah Schaefer
Ugh.
- [43:16]
Brett Dasovic
Endless onboarding IT bottlenecks, admin requests.
- [43:20]
Elijah Schaefer
But what if things were different?
- [43:24]
Brett Dasovic
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Elijah Schaefer
But this is everything everywhere.
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Brett Dasovic
Yeah, but the. But people don't think. People think I pay taxes. So that way the government has money to pay for things and that's not how it works anymore. When the government wants to to fund something, the government wants to make bombs, the government wants to fund a program, whatever. They print the money you use tax and they use interest rates to control the, the dollar supply, the amount of dollars that are out there. But if they want to do something, they don't need to tax you for it. Your taxes aren't going to go up. So that way they can afford to do things. That's not how our economy works.
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Tim Pool
I mean it's still bankrupting your kids. It's still putting your kids future in danger because they're also going to be taxed at an endless rate. Yeah, but that we're never going to get out of debt.
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Elijah Schaefer
Okay, sure.
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Alad Elahu
Not what's bankrupting America, by the way. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security is what's bankrupting Americans. So no, I love how we always love to point the finger and we say oh, foreign Aiden. And that's why we can't help the homeless people and that's why people are starving in the middle of God knows where.
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Brett Dasovic
You're 100% right. It's. It's mandatory spending, the discretionary spending, things like things like the military and, and, and what? Those things are not important. If you, if you actually are worried about the United States debt and the value of the dollar and stuff, you have to address mandatory spending. You have to address Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Those are the things that are. That are actually driving the debt. Everything else is tertiary as much. So that does speak to what we're talking about here. The foreign aid st. Conversation that we're having is great. I love the idea of, of getting rid of foreign aid, but it does not matter about the debt. There's no one, no one's going to be like, oh, the debt's going to explode because we give so much money to Israel. We give Israel pennies compared to what we. What really drives our.
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Alad Elahu
Nothing will change if we give. If we stop giving foreign aid, nothing will change for you domestically.
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Elijah Schaefer
But here, here's where foreign aid is different. It's from the outside looking in. I've lived all over and worked all over the world, right from South Korea to China to Australia. You know, I've been around there, and one thing that I've noticed working, working and living out of another Western country, even though I don't live there anymore or work there, is that in Australia, you know, it's a superpower, right?
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Alad Elahu
No.
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Elijah Schaefer
And it, it is. It is a superpower.
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Alad Elahu
It's a colony of ours.
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Elijah Schaefer
It is.
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Alad Elahu
If we didn't help protect them, China would take them.
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Elijah Schaefer
All right. Okay. I'm glad that you are able. I'm glad you're more. I'm glad you're smarter than these.
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Brett Dasovic
It's early. Your Australian friends are still.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you don't understand the five eyes and the intelligence in the fact of what really the world, what happens in the world there. Okay, so don't say five eyes. It literally is. It literally is a superpower because the world doesn't rock is not really the world. It's broken up into regions. And in that region, basically the Western dominance is really set down to two major countries. You could look at Japan as one, but really South Korea and Australia to control what's going on in the South China Sea, as they would call it, or just call it, you know, the Pacific. But the, the point of the matter is, is that Australia, like you said, people don't think about where their money goes over there. Everybody's like, you know, we have health care and we have this and we have that. And you're like, yeah, well, it's because you have the luxury of the United States is propping up your failed military which their military is so failed, by the way, that they're planning on letting non citizens join their military ranks. It's actually gotten that bad. And it's so bad that right now, one of the most. One of the most contradictory or controversial ideas in the country, the US Is saying, hey, I think this actually started. It might have started under Trump. You need to actually buy your own nuclear subs to deter China. We're not going to fund and patrol your waters anymore. So they're going to be $34 billion. And everyone in Australia was freaking out. Right. Because they're used to their money not going towards buying nuclear subs. I'm laughing as an American there because I'm like, you're mad that you're spending $34 billion on subs. Wait till you find out what we spend on our subs every year. You guys keep saying, oh, we get health care, like, but our health care system's falling apart. I'm like, welcome to being an American that you make fun of so much and say, well, you guys buy bombs and we have health care. Well, eventually you're gonna need to buy your own bombs. And it's either now or never, because we cannot patrol the whole world. We cannot control. If you really want to be a superpower power and you want to be an ally, like how Israel's an ally, you got to give back. It's not just against Israel. It's like, you got to give back because even though we're not giving 3 billion in aid, let's say, to Australia, the amount of military support that we give to patrolling and protecting their northern border is in probably way more than what we.
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Alad Elahu
Where are they buying these submarines from?
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Elijah Schaefer
From the United States.
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Alad Elahu
And is the military industrial complex here a good thing or a bad thing?
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Elijah Schaefer
Oh, that's a. Okay.
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Alad Elahu
That's a downside that they're getting the submarines or not that they have the ability to buy those nuclear.
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Elijah Schaefer
It's good that they have the ability. Sure.
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Tim Pool
It's a good thing.
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Alad Elahu
Okay.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, sure. I wish that they had the ability to create their own. If they really are considered an ally.
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Alad Elahu
Qualitative military edge over other countries. You have to buy.
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Elijah Schaefer
They've let. They've let their edge fall. Like many Western countries.
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Alad Elahu
They wouldn't compete otherwise.
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Elijah Schaefer
For decades that people have not been developing their own best arm.
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Alad Elahu
We have the best arms industry, and it's correct. It's a good thing that our allies continue to buy from us. Just like you were talking about earlier, how we have five eyes, you know, I think it's an important thing that we continue to collaborate with our allies abroad to help buy these submarines. And I'm sure, by the way, the US Is subsidizing those submarines.
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Elijah Schaefer
Okay. Yeah. All I was trying to say is the reason why that's, I'm saying what's happening in the world today with foreign aids. We're talking about this. It's easy to look at foreign aid as just the dollars that we send in, you know, numbers on a screen we're transferring. But how many years, you know, have we been protecting New Zealand and Australia? You know, it's about time that we do cut back on our foreign aid of these countries and say, look, you guys make trillions of dollars in gdp. You can build some damn submarines.
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Brett Dasovic
I mean. Well, I don't, I don't know that I'm particularly concerned with the, the ship works of New Zealand and Australia. I don't have a problem.
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Elijah Schaefer
I am. Because we need to control that for trade. Like us has interest in controlling Pacific.
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Brett Dasovic
Well, the United States is the country that patrols the seas. The United States makes the whole, all the oceans safe for, for, for international trade. Right. So the, it's not something that we, it's not a, A situation that we share. I, I don't have the numbers, but all you got to do is Google like the United States Navy compared to every other navy in the world. Every other navy is, is. Would be destroyed in a moment if the United States wanted to.
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Alad Elahu
We have something like a dozen nuclear submarines.
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Brett Dasovic
I mean, don't.
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Alad Elahu
That no other country truly has. Maybe Japan has one or two we know about too.
- [49:43]
Brett Dasovic
The amount. Yeah, the amount of power that the United States has when it comes to a. Nate. The Navy. Naval. The Navy is, Is mind boggling. And the United States does make trade safe. And I think that as much as the United States is going to be, you know, we're going to be imperfect and there's going to be corruption and stuff. I'd rather the United States be the country that's making sure that the seas are open for trade than China or than Russia, because I just don't trust that China or Russia would deal even close to as fairly as the United States.
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Elijah Schaefer
I think you're correct on that.
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Brett Dasovic
I don't think the United States deals fairly. I'm sure that there are, there are countries that feel like they're getting, you know, the, the crap end of the stick and stuff like that when they're dealing with the U.S. i'm sure that's the case. But at the end of the day, I think the United States is the most fair of the options out there. So I mean I don't think that it's a bad thing that you know, honestly the, the foreign aid, when it comes to military aid and stuff like that, it's the US Having Americans build military weaponry for other countries. So essentially the US Is just paying American bill, American arms and, and again now you can be against these kind of things and stuff, that's fine, but it's not the same thing as handing out bags of cash. You know, we're not, we're not sending pallets of cash to, to you know, Australia and New Zealand. Like we said, our largest CIA operative.
- [51:04]
Elijah Schaefer
Headquarters base right in, in Australia, which is essentially a U.S. you know, controlled, you know, extension of our dominance. Although all this being said and done, I just thought it'd be a time to remind you guys guys of how much we're all collectively frustrated at this table with the West Virginian local politics of sole proprietorships and, and business. And I've been here for a day and I gotta get, I gotta get the hell out of here because let's.
- [51:28]
Alad Elahu
Let'S, let's go in the complaint, let's go to this business law.
- [51:33]
Brett Dasovic
Let's go on to. Enough, let's go on to this story. Target is the latest company to roll back some DEI programs because Donald Trump is a knock nazi. Not really that last part I made up. CNN reports New York. Target is joining a wave of U. S companies pulling back on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives as right wing. Right wing, that's a scare word there. Right wing pressure leads to, leads companies to alter their commitment to hiring diverse candidates and expanding access. Everyone knows that that is as much crap as you can jam into one opening. I mean sentence as imaginable.
- [52:10]
Tim Pool
Well, any profit seeking entity was looking to do this anyways. This just gave them the excuse to finally be able to do it and put the blame on someone else.
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Brett Dasovic
And CNN gets to call the orange man bad for doing it. Target said in a statement Friday that it will end its three year diversity, equity and inclusion goals in 2022. The company said that those goals included ensuring equitable access to career advancement and equitable business decisions that increase relevance with diverse guests and support economic inclus inclusivity. Target had also committed in 20 to expand Black representation at the company by 20%. I think we all around this table probably agree that these are terrible ideas because you're not hiring for, for competency. You're hiring based on skin Color. And that's, you know, it's just straight up illegal in the United States. I mean, am I, am I talking out of.
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Tim Pool
No, but the problem is, is now they talk about Trump's rolling back civil rights. Now people think of it in the opposite, opposite effect. Now, say it again now, because they're talking about Trump rolling back civil rights because he's getting rid of these programs. They don't understand that's not what that is. So he's actually getting the blame despite the fact that what they were doing with these programs was already illegal.
- [53:20]
Brett Dasovic
But again, I think that that person that you're, the, the hypothetical person you're talking about is the person that watches, you know, maybe 30 minutes to an hour of Jimmy Kimmel a week. And that's where they get their, you know, they get. Yeah, which, which is a terrible, terrible development. You know, when you have people like Jimmy Kimmel that are, that are the people that are giving the news to America view, their view is worse. I. Absolutely worse, but only marginally.
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Tim Pool
But there's also a lot of guilt by association in Americans who just, they see something like this and they say, yeah, I do come from a privileged background. Now, whether they do or they don't, or whether this other guy on the other side of the table them is of the same, has the same access as them, doesn't matter to them. So they don't see a problem in stuff like this. Especially nimby white liberals out in the suburbs, they're not going to see a problem with probably programs like this. You think the NIMBYs, they're not in my backyards. Yeah, because they're not in that. They're not worrying about jobs at Target.
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Alad Elahu
I don't mean to minimize getting rid of these DEI programs, but I will minimize them in a second. It feels like the government, you know, kind of winks and nods and gives directions to these companies for what they want to see. In the past administration, it was that Joe Biden want to see them do more DEI stuff. So they did the window dressing for the DEI stuff. Now they don't want to be targeted or try to get in the good graces of the Trump administration. So you see not only these guys, but some of the tech bros like Jeff Bezos at Amazon or, well, I guess he's not at Amazon anymore, do the same thing where they're trying to get rid of these DEI initiatives and get in the good graces of the conservative government.
- [54:45]
Brett Dasovic
So do you think that this is, this is, do you think that this it's virtue signaling. So you think that they're, they were looking to get rid of these programs anyways and that the getting rid of them is, is actually a way for them to get into the good graces.
- [54:55]
Elijah Schaefer
So they were already making cuts. So like if you actually go into, it's really funny if you go into a lot of these companies and you look at the demographics, they haven't become more diverse. Diverse. You know, when you look at upper level management in tech companies, you can check this out for for most of the large ones, it's still upwards of like 90% East Asian, not even talking about South Indian, like East Asian and predominantly white men who are running like core engineering, core development, especially the executive department level, like teams. And then it'll look and it'll be like, well, 50% of the employees are you know, basically, basically brown, gay or a combination of some sort of, you know, melanation. And the thing is, is, is that what happens is, is that these, these jobs are actually able to be cut fairly easily and they don't want these jobs at their companies. They're bloat and a lot of this stuff isn't needed. You ever watch the videos of these? Like, yes, that's exactly Asian girls going like. And I get a little soda at my office and I type up a couple codes, yeah, your company knows your job is worthless too. And when the cuts came recently, aren't there they do the cuts for them first. Like, you know, wow, everyone. I love how people will be like, we're winning Woke Microsoft cut 20,000 jobs. You're like, bro, they've been waiting for like, I agree with Eli. They've been waiting to cut these 20,000 jobs jobs because once they had the financial, you know, excuse to tell the government because at a certain level of a corporate, you know, size you have to have, the government does check in on your diversity quotas. It's unfortunate, but they do. You have to have evidence for why you made the cuts. And I just don't believe DEI is good for business. I believe it's annoying to people. And I do not think that the average consumer really wants to buy tucking underwear at Target or see gay flags while they're buying their coffee. Like, I just, I don't even, I don't know anyone who cares outside of like maybe porn Portland.
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Tim Pool
This was the same thing that happened in Hollywood after the strikes. And they immediately started cutting jobs like that and sending work over to Canada, work over to India. The first thing that they do, they say, look, we're like telling, like, look, the strike is going to hurt you. You're going to get what you want on paper and the first thing they're going to do is send your work elsewhere. And that's exactly what happened. They were just looking for an excuse.
- [56:48]
Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, it's like, I want to go to the store without experiencing Ian's graphene dream. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just saying, you know, I.
- [56:54]
Tim Pool
Mean, I mean, it's this, it's the laptop jobs. Same thing people have been talking about for years. They're, they're basically the people who go to do that. The ones who work for Google are just influencers that are used to make propaganda videos, to make look how good it is to work at Google. But everybody knows, knows, like when Elon bought Twitter and he cut like 80, 80% of the workforce and the website still worked.
- [57:13]
Brett Dasovic
And you're referring to those tick tocks that you saw.
- [57:15]
Tim Pool
Yeah, that's the whole point.
- [57:17]
Brett Dasovic
You know, I'm, I'm going to work and they'd, you know, essentially do like.
- [57:20]
Tim Pool
A day in the life of Google.
- [57:21]
Brett Dasovic
10 minutes of work in the whole video, and they'd have, you know, three different adult daycare.
- [57:26]
Elijah Schaefer
Can I ask you a question, Phil? This is, I genuinely want to, want to know this because I joked on the earlier show today, you said you're an anti communist. I was like, oh, are you a fascist? I was just messing with you. I know you're not because, because fascists are anti communist and I'm not a fascist either. But I, I, I, I do want to know. A good question. I know fascism is becoming very popular, particularly among a certain amount of the right wing, and no one can deny that. Right. You know, let me define it, Shlomo. 666 A9 might be in the chat tonight. You know, tell me to deport Elod and I will do it later. Don't worry, Shlomo. No, but you know, this worry.
- [57:54]
Alad Elahu
I got the massage back.
- [57:55]
Elijah Schaefer
Yeah.
- [57:56]
Alad Elahu
Or the CIA, who knows?
- [57:57]
Elijah Schaefer
I found Tim's matzah in the green room. So I know he's, he's, his Mossad agent is here somewhere, but, but right across from you. Yeah, I'm like, he's the, he's somewhere handler. No, but, okay, so look, so I understand and, and honestly, I understand it, right? This coalition.
- [58:12]
Brett Dasovic
There was a question.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, I'm asking, I'm asking you. No, I'm saying I understand this idea of fascism, but people don't understand this, this alignment of sort of the private and, and the public sector, what the reason why I understand this is because what we kind of are seeing right now now is that the private sector does take direction from the public sector. And if Trump is saying we're going to be a certain way, then the private sector lines up. And right now we, like us, or a lot of us in this room at least, like where Trump is taking things. So we like where the private sector is going when Biden's in. We don't like where it's going. And so we don't like the private sector.
- [58:42]
Brett Dasovic
So this is where.
- [58:44]
Elijah Schaefer
How much government, how much should we be fighting for government strength like this or government control? Because we are, we do have a direct alignment of our private and public. Where do we set the limit? And why is fascism then wrong? Anti communism, why is that wrong?
- [58:57]
Brett Dasovic
So the idea that, that the government aligns with private, with private industry, that's undeniable. And it would be my preference that we have a government that's small enough where they really don't have any influence federally. At the very least, if there are states that want to say, okay, you're going to operate in our state, these are the rules that you have to have to operate in our state. And then these companies can decide, I don't want to. And you saw that with, like Tesla leaving California, with Oracle leaving California, I think, you know, Joe Rogan, even though he's not a gigantic company, he left California. And you see people deciding, I don't like dealing with these, the regulations or whatever. I've moved multiple times because I didn't like what was going on my state. I grew up in Massachusetts. I didn't like it. I decided to move to New Hampshire. I have a place there. And, and so I think, think that when you can make your federal government, when you can actually have your federal government reined in and make it actually abide by the rules laid out in the Constitution. I don't think that the United States qualifies as fascist that way. Like, if you actually, especially if we could have some kind of miracle and, and, and have an amendment that clarifies the necessary and proper clause and clarifies the, the commerce clause. So that way the government wasn't using that to basically bully every single industry that it just, you know, well, not just the industry, but people as well. So I don't think the United States is intended to be fascist. I think the, the.
- [60:29]
Elijah Schaefer
Are we kind of though a little bit like a fascist light.
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Brett Dasovic
It's because, well, listen, are we there in the, in the, in the first half of the 20th century that was all the rage right before the Nazis, before the horrors of what the Nazis did had became public knowledge before everybody really knew, you know, Woodrow Wilson and, and the League of Nations and all of this stuff that was going on after from World War I and after World War I, this was all the rage. And it was normal for people to think, well the government should do this and the government should do that and et cetera, et cetera. That's when you get your FDRs and, and, and it's, and they have all of these policies and all these things that, that the government has built up. So personally, I'm the guy that wants to see the entire progressive agenda stripped away, right? I go back to, to the, the way that the, the government was in, you know, 1900, you know, because I don't want to see a big government. I want the smallest federal government that we can have. The states are empowered fully to do all sorts of things. And it's even in the Bill of rights. The 10th amendment says, look, if it's not listed here, then the states have the power. The Constitution is, Constitution is very clear. It is just want to go back.
- [61:35]
Elijah Schaefer
To our government when we were like the most racist and the most like hegemonic. It's like everyone's always like, I want.
- [61:40]
Brett Dasovic
To go libertarians like no government.
- [61:41]
Elijah Schaefer
To get back to the point when we were all racist.
- [61:43]
Brett Dasovic
Stop putting words. I'm joking. Well, that's why, that's why I'm clarifying to stop putting words in my mouth.
- [61:49]
Elijah Schaefer
I'm saying I, I know what you mean. I'm. You're talking about that without the other stuff. But there is a lot of jokes about that is like maybe we've thrown the baby out with the bath water, right? Maybe in the terms of trying to become, by trying to progress past some, you know, faux pas or some issues in our society, we, we've sort of thrown out, we've gone too far.
- [62:04]
Brett Dasovic
The, the things that you're. That people think of when it comes to like the, the pro, pro progress when it comes to like race stuff, right? So that's all in the 60s. All the stuff that really made the United States go from being a small government country to a big government country. That all happened long before the 60s, long before the civil rights and a.
- [62:24]
Elijah Schaefer
Lot of that stuff.
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Brett Dasovic
All it was all stuff that was, that actually did happen because of the Great Depression. And a lot of the things that we have now, they're vestiges of, of what was put in place to deal with what people would call excessive capitalism or the, the, the way that capitalism behaves without regulations. I think that's totally wrong. Especially nowadays when you have the ability to communicate as fast as we do and with the, with the type of technology that we have. I think that the, the, the reins that you put onto, onto private companies, I think those are completely unnecessary and they're antiquated and they're, they don't, they don't need to be, you know, they could be revisited and taken away without any significant problem. If there was significant problem, word would get around so fast that, that companies wouldn't be. I mean, you're not just, if you roll, if you got rid of child labor laws, right, you're not going to have like kids in coal mines again. That's just not going to happen. It's just period, right? It's not going to happen. If you got rid of like, you're not going to have child labor.
- [63:16]
Elijah Schaefer
It's called Fortnite and subscription Girl Scouts on their iPad. They sit there and just, yeah, running.
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Brett Dasovic
For the company, rolling and rolling in Girl Scout. Yeah, but, so, so my, my opinion is I think that the government should be, the federal government should be as small as possible. I don't think that we need a large government that, that works in hand. In hand with companies.
- [63:33]
Elijah Schaefer
I can ask you how. Because I only, I only bring a juxtaposition here is like, because I'm actually, I'm not trying to actually put words in your mouth, you know me, I just troll and toy a little bit. But, but I, I mean this in like terms of we are a big government where a lot of people feel like we're either going to be communist or we're going to be fascist. And like, and I think a lot of the fascists are more like Christian nationalists, you know. Well, I'm saying, look, look, and I, and I, I like your idea better. So, so like, I do see everybody's ideas. I'm like, I'm standing on the outside. I'm actually a dad. So, you know, I have two kids. People don't know. And I think when you have kids, it humbles the hell out of you because, you know, you have to think about how my decisions are going to affect their life. Right. I know boomers are currently toasting their champagne in their Jacuzzi that they bought on after pay and you know, kick their kids out at 18 enjoying their life. But some of us want our, want our kids to be Successful? No, but I mean, I look at my kids, I want them to be successful and I'm thinking, okay, you know, am I scoring points with a Christian crusader? 1488 on, on Twitter? That's not what I'm trying to do. Am I trying to get a job at the Daily Wire? Ben, I'll apologize. I'll take it. No, I didn't know. I'm not, I'm, I already put on a beanie. I'm ready. Come on, Ben. No, but, but I, I'm, I'm not, I'm just trying to be me with my family and figure out what's good for the country. Like, we all are, we're clearly divided. We all have all these utopian ideas, but the truth is, is the both of these sides that are pushing fascists and communists, to me, they got one thing right, right? We do have a pretty damn freaking big government. That government is in control of, of, of of the means of production and a lot of ways in influencing it. Now where, where is, where does that go? You want to nuke it and, and shrink it. But like, is that a reality? Like, is there any way to nuke it without a full self implosion? Because it's like, and I don't know, I'm not a historian, but I've looked at empires, looked at the Roman Empire. Eventually it puttered out, it broke into other empires. But it's like, you know, are we being utopian, Phil? Are we just being boomers, out of touch, boomer, utopian people? We're just like, I just want a small government while these young Gen Z's are all going, going communist. They're either going full communist or full fascist. What do they see that we don't see? And why don't they believe we can shrink the government?
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Brett Dasovic
What I think they see is they see the, the shortcomings of the, the liberal economic order. Right? But the thing that they don't understand is that the, the shortcomings of the liberal economic order are actually not as big of a deal when they're put into the context of what came before. Right? So nowadays you've got all kinds of problems with like, we talk about the, the cost of living, the value of the dollar's gone down. The, the way that the boomers behaved about, you know, essentially all of their, their 401ks and kids can't buy homes, kids can't afford all kinds of things. And that's all real. And that's the reality that they're, that they're living in. But they don't. They don't. They don't have an experience with the things. Things that were before the boomers. They don't have the experience with, like, the Great Depression. They don't have the experience without having the ability to just, you know, have. Have food delivered on their, on their apps or all kinds of possible avenues to, to make revenue that the Internet provides and stuff like that. So whereas I'm not saying that they're wrong, and I'm not saying that their struggles aren't real, I'm just saying that they are products of a. A time and a place, right? And you can't get outside of that context without experience. You can't just be like, if you're 20, 21, 20, you know, 19, 20, 21, 22, and you are in the United States, that's all you've ever known. And you're not a bad person because that's all you've ever known.
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Tim Pool
You're also. You're not wrong that kids, Kids, for the most part, support these policies. The way these policies are framed is they're saying that Trump didn't roll back dei, he rolled back. Back. He rolled back protections for minority and marginalized groups. So by that nature, the whole point is that they're saying equal opportunity under the law, which is what it actually was before, which was beneficial to everyone, is now a bad thing. And they want to see the government, at least a lot of the, the young kids, the liberal kids, they like the idea that the federal government was willing to impose that because they feel that's a good thing and that is a way towards communism. Communism, like you said.
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Alad Elahu
Elijah, I wanted to follow up on what you were talking about a couple of minutes ago with fascism or fascism light that we're seeing in our upcoming generations. I want to ask, what do you think of the. I don't even necessarily mean this in a derogatory way. Do you believe the current Trump administration is fascistic?
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Elijah Schaefer
No. I would say that the United States imperial system, like, it wouldn't matter who came into power. The overall totality of the size of our government and our. And our power across the world is so big that it's.
- [67:58]
Brett Dasovic
It.
- [67:58]
Elijah Schaefer
Corporate interests and government interests cannot be be unlinked.
- [68:02]
Alad Elahu
I think this is a misreading of fascism. I. I don't think.
- [68:05]
Elijah Schaefer
I didn't say we are. I said. I said people say that we only have two directions to go. Like, either we make it fascist to get control of it or make it communist. But we're kind of like free floating and it's a fight for who's.
- [68:15]
Alad Elahu
I think that's, I think that's an argument that a communist or fascist would say that there's no other way that you have to go that you could either be a communist or you're a fascist. It's, it's the split in the road. But I don't really believe kids are fascists.
- [68:24]
Elijah Schaefer
No, no, no.
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Alad Elahu
I think that extremist voices tend to be the loudest but aren't the majority at all. And, you know, these Gen Z show that they could be an online as much as they want. And I think they have different politics, but I don't think they're, you know, as I understand the fascistic tendencies is a complete consolidation of power in the government. I don't think we're as statist as you are implying. I don't think Trump's nearly as militaristic as you need to be for a fascist. He's not going to be a dictator. He's not staying in power.
- [68:50]
Elijah Schaefer
He's got to be a dictator to have a, to have a fascistic.
- [68:52]
Alad Elahu
I don't even think he has consolidated power. So I think it's like a, it's like a leftist reading almost of what.
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Brett Dasovic
I just want, I just want to, I want to point out that, that the way that you, not to, not to stomp on what you're saying, but the questions that, that Elijah was asking, I didn't get the vibe that he was saying that Trump was going to be a fascist dictator. I do feel like it was, it was coming from a place of like, look, this is the way young people kind of view things. And he was looking for someone's opinion. Just.
- [69:18]
Elijah Schaefer
I'm just worried about, I, I'm, I'm worried about some of this stuff. Stuff because I'm worried that we're becoming like, around this table, just as out of touch when we make boomer memes and it's like, you know, they're like, hey, you want to get a job? Just shake his hand for me and.
- [69:31]
Tim Pool
Then get a job up by your bootstrap.
- [69:33]
Elijah Schaefer
Even when they're like, go on LinkedIn. You're like, you just got to know someone now. That's all it is. You got to know someone and you got to be in the right place. Tell my kid, you want to work in politics, go to political conferences. That's what you got to do. That's.
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Brett Dasovic
Honestly, that's incredibly good advice, though, because whether you're talking about now or you're talking about about 50 years ago or 100 years ago. Like I mean, I don't know how many people out there have read like Dale Carnegie's how to Win Friends and Influence people. Like this is a book that salesmen and, and people used to read all the time. And it's full of the most obvious, right? It really is. But the point that it gets across is the most important part of getting a good job is who you know. So if you're sitting at home and you're on your computer all the time and you don't actually interact with anybody except from like an anonymous account on Twitter, like that doesn't help any if you go on, on X and all and you look at like people that tend to be on X a lot. One of the things that people say is meet your mutuals, go and try to meet your mutuals. Because when you actually make contact with other people then you are going to be in a better position to get opportunities and that there's also a phrase that you hear all the time like 90% of the, of the problem or percent of, of what you need to do is just show up. Right? If you go out and you get out into the world physically and you go do things with people and you're around people, opportunities are far more likely to come up to arise than if you spend time at home. So and again, this is not me saying that it's not hard for Gen Z or Gen, you know, Gen Alpha or whatever. I'm not poo pooing any of the struggles they say but this, the culture today and the things that, the incentives, the way that the society is now. Kids are not incentivized to go out into the world and do things with real people. And the more you get out and interact with real people doing real world things, the more opportunities are going to present themselves. And even if that means that you go and you meet your, your ex mutuals, go meet the people that you hang out with on Discord, if you can go and, and, and do, you know, do never meet your Discord.
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Alad Elahu
It's like meet your, meet your online friends is such a weird thing to hear because it's never something I went through. It was never like oh let me meet my buddies from Twitter or, or my boy on the Discord server. It was just such a foreign weird thing.
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Brett Dasovic
Yes, I, I understand but like, I mean did you, did you get your job here by sending an email or did you know someone?
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Alad Elahu
I knew somebody.
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Brett Dasovic
You got your job from sending an email? Okay, well, you, you knew someone. I was just, I got, I sent.
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Elijah Schaefer
An email, said, hey, I know someone there.
- [72:06]
Alad Elahu
I did send an email and it went unanswered. Sent multiple emails.
- [72:09]
Brett Dasovic
Listen, the reason, listen, the reason that I got a, a record deal is because I knew someone, right? I'm in a band that.
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Alad Elahu
And they're a talented enhanced.
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Brett Dasovic
Thank you very much. No, and honestly, honestly, when it comes to that, like our first record was garbage and no one cared. I literally learned how to write songs to well, because I called up Adam D from Kill Switch Engage and said, dude, I can write riffs all day. I can't put a song together. Will you produce our next record? He said, yes. I went there, we put out a record called this Dark and Hard. And then I said, okay, this one's doing okay. This seems to be helping my buddy Scott Lee, who put on the, the New England metal and Hardcore fest for almost 20 years. He was a great friend of mine. We got to play those shows because I was good friends with Scott. Then we went back into the studio with Adam D and we did the Fall of Ideals. When the Fall of Ideals came out, that's what really opened it up for us. But that was because I knew people and I, I appreciate that. You know, I appreciate anyone that loves the, the music that all that remains is made. But I showed up. I was at shows every weekend, whether my band was playing or not. There's something that you hear all the time when you're in the scene, support the scene, go to shows. If, if there's local bands playing, go watch the local bands. Part of that is showing up. So as much as, as again, I don't want to sound like I'm knocking kids today because it's, it's a totally different world. And I'm not a kid, but I'm grown ass men.
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Elijah Schaefer
I hate that. It's like they're like, well, we think our kids are like, you meet them, they're like, oh, you're 21.
- [73:34]
Brett Dasovic
Look, you're, you're a kid. Okay. Compared to me, like I should have my cane as a father of two.
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Elijah Schaefer
Children is, yeah, Brad Palumbo, that I guess I was born in 1980.
- [73:43]
Brett Dasovic
I was like young and too.
- [73:44]
Elijah Schaefer
And I was like, damn, bro, that's, that hurts.
- [73:47]
Brett Dasovic
But I, I, I just didn't hurt. I'm still like I said, I want to point out, I want to drive this home, like get out and do things and meet people because the, the, the world is about showing up.
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Tim Pool
It's no so like, one of the things that I probably would say out of everything that I've done here is that I've never really taken the time. Like, a lot of very important, important people come through this company, and I just never bothered, like, unless it was a day when I was on the show. Love it. Love the job, love a lot of the people, but didn't take the time to be like, hey, my name's Brett. How's it going? And it's. That's just me. I'm more introverted. That's just the way I am. But it is a shortcoming on my own point because you're, you're losing a lot of opportunities to put faces to names, to interact with people. And I am the person where literally this job, like, Tim just said me a message. So it wasn't knowing.
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Elijah Schaefer
It was.
- [74:35]
Tim Pool
Yeah, it was like, like 2A slid into my DMs. I was saying. But that's the point, right? But that's the rare exception of that happening. Most of the time, the best opportunities come because you're like, look, okay, I need a job. And then you have friends who work in that sphere who you can call and say, look, is anybody hiring? Do you know anybody who's looking to put things together? It is not to be understated how important that is.
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Brett Dasovic
All right, so we're going to go ahead and go on to the next story and we can dunk on Gavin Newsom a little bit. CNN is reporting news Trump face off from a distance as Los Angeles fires burn. Donald Trump has been giving Newsome the old Donald Trump at 2 in the morning tweeting treatment. And it's been pretty glorious. CNN is reporting advisors to California Governor Gavin Newsom spent the week monitoring new White House advanced staffer social media accounts. See, he's just sending the mean tweets and changing the world, hoping for clues for where President Donald Trump might be headed when he lands in Los Angeles on Friday afternoon to talk about the wildfire damage. That's the state of relations as California and the federal government face one of the most expensive natural disasters ever and perhaps one of the most complex in American history. No one is talking between the Democratic governor's team and the newly inaugurated presidents. Two people on the governor's team told CNN through a spokesman for the governor. Governor told CNN on Friday that he will head to the airport to greet Air Force One. Now, apparently, he did meet the president. Gavin Newsom did meet the president, and he was received fairly well, if I understand correctly.
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Elijah Schaefer
They.
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Brett Dasovic
They shook hands and they talked a little bit. Donald Trump has floated the idea of withholding aid based on, I believe, two conditions, one of them being voter ID in California, which, it's an odd thing to connect to Wildfire or to, to, you know, emergency relief, but I don't hate the idea of having California actually have to do voter id. And what was the other one?
- [76:39]
Elijah Schaefer
I mean, I'm actually surprised at this one. This is pretty crazy.
- [76:42]
Brett Dasovic
What? Hair thinning can happen for so many.
- [76:45]
Elijah Schaefer
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Brett Dasovic
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Elijah Schaefer
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Brett Dasovic
@Nutrafol.Com that's n u t r-a f.
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Elijah Schaefer
O l.com it's like, you know, stipulated. Giving out aid during, during a crisis.
- [77:16]
Alad Elahu
Sounds like a California conservative over here.
- [77:19]
Elijah Schaefer
I mean, obviously it's my home. You know, I'm from L. A so it's like, I mean, things are pretty rough over there right now.
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Alad Elahu
I'm going to strongly agree with you. And moreover, it's not only, I think, bad, like morally for what the government should be doing there. I think it's just really poor politics. People forget that California is one of the biggest states that has the most Republicans in it. And to win the House, you need a lot of those seats. So that there was actually one new Rep from Republican Rep from California, Young Kim, who said playing politics with people's livelihoods is unacceptable and a slap in the face of the Southern California wildfire victims. With a tight majority in the House, many seats were picked up in California. And this is not going to help them out with Republicans trying to stipulate aid. So I think it's a bad move politically because, you know, they're going to lose some seats in a couple years.
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Elijah Schaefer
It can't be like, like. And I think this is for me to draw the line like people obviously I, I used to play a little more, not intentionally to, to my side just because I hadn't explored the, the political spectrum so much. Right. It's like we're all on the spectrum, but you know, to some extent, and I think, you know, looking at it left and right is problematic. You kind of have to take individual issues and look at first what's humane. And I think that's a very, very increasingly rare thing. People just look at, you know, oh, in North Carolina, Republicans Suffer, who cares? I watched a tick tock of a girl saying that. She's like, like I don't know if you other liberals are understand that Republicans are enjoy that Los Angeles burned down because you know, we were all enjoyed when North Carolina got destroyed. And I'm like no, you sick witch. Like, no, no, we didn't, we're not happy now. We weren't happy then. And quite frankly there are plenty of right leaning people that probably suffered in the LA fires and vice versa in North Carolina. So do not tell me that, you know, this is a, this is a political storm, right? This isn't. Q. We're not going into the storm form here. Okay? But, but I do think I understand Trump trying to play hardball with a state and with a governor and I'm not opposed to some alternative or interesting or unheard of tactics when you're playing hardball like this. However, in terms of withholding federal taxpayer dollars, I think if you went back to finding out what the American people would want, I do not believe that the average American taxpayer would want to withhold their money money from emergency relief in an area based upon political grandstanding. I just, and I'm very pro Trump. I do not, I do not think an average American taxpayer would agree with that.
- [79:36]
Alad Elahu
I think this is owning the libs running amok a bit Trump. Hey, you want them, you want some financial aid burned down, you get voter ID laws and what was the other stipulation?
- [79:46]
Brett Dasovic
So I don't remember what the other one was and I can't find it here. Just like, sorry about that.
- [79:50]
Alad Elahu
Owning the libs run amok I think is let your.
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Elijah Schaefer
By the way, I want to say this too. Pacific Palisades is not like, you know, 7th street in downtown LA or like near skid Row. Pacific Palisades is nicer than any city you live in in your red state. Pacific Palisades is like one of the, if you're like for instance, like wide areas and stuff, this is a very wide area and very, very clean and very rich. And this is like the idealistic area of what an America can look.
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Brett Dasovic
Oh, and the second one was to release the water which actually, so I think that that one actually, actually ties into the issue with the, the fires and stuff. The fact that the, the water situation in California is, is difficult to, to manage or whatever and I don't know, same condition. Yeah, I mean that's essentially, that's what that as far as I know the situation is. There is a smelt in a bay up in Northern California and because of the way that the water is flowing and the way that they have the dam set up it pushes the fresh water out into the San Francisco Bay. And so the brackish water doesn't come so far in making it okay making the habitat suitable for the smelt. If they allow the water to flow south into Southern California then the brackish water would actually move further into the bay.
- [81:11]
Elijah Schaefer
A woman's mind here it's just like.
- [81:12]
Brett Dasovic
What I mean I can do that.
- [81:14]
Elijah Schaefer
Too streaming downstream and smelt fish. I'm like it sounds like a mess but.
- [81:18]
Brett Dasovic
Well I mean it seems like a mess but the point that I'm making is it this little fish is is alleged to be the reason why Southern California has problems with water. And I think that if that is the case like if the, if the situation is that hey we're the environmentalists are actually the reason why California doesn't have water to fight fires in Southern California, one of the most densely populated regions in the United States and clearly you know needs needs water badly because of the, the winds and because of the other mismanagement of the forest and stuff then I think that it's okay to say look this needs to happen. If you're going to come to the United to the federal government and say we need you to fund it then the federal government should be able to say you need to do these things to fix the problem. Now the voter, the voter id. Hold on, hold on. The voter ID might be a step too far but the, the situation of like you need to make sure that you don't need to come to us again for the same problem that I think might actually have have some merit.
- [82:19]
Elijah Schaefer
I agree it could be like a.
- [82:21]
Alad Elahu
State and federal government thing and the only reason I think this is going to be it's going to set a bad precedent. There will be a democratic president in the future and there will be a natural disaster in a red leaning area when that happens. And you'd hate for them to have a dumb reason that they say that you guys need to accept or we won't release more aids. So that's or maybe I'm thinking too too in depth about it. Own the libs all you want.
- [82:42]
Brett Dasovic
There's but there's already strings attached to all sorts of things from the fact the federal government the reason that that you have the drinking age 21 is because the feds say we won't give you any any money for your different.
- [82:52]
Alad Elahu
Than a natural disaster.
- [82:53]
Brett Dasovic
I don't know but it's still, it's still strings.
- [82:56]
Tim Pool
There was people saying that what Trump did in this case was an impeachable offense. And they were like, obviously you don't understand how these things go together.
- [83:02]
Alad Elahu
He's going to get impeached over something stupid at least one more time in the second term. After the midterms, the Republicans lose the House.
- [83:09]
Brett Dasovic
I really hope not because, not because, not because I think, think that, that they'll actually have any kind of significant real issue that they're going to bring up. But because of the fact that he did have a clear victory in, you know, popular vote and with the, with the Electoral College. So I can't imagine any kind of positive outcome of trying to impeach Donald Trump again. So.
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Elijah Schaefer
No. And also reminding you guys, California is also kind of a unique place because sort of like Chicago, it's run like a mob. I was really happy when Tucker touched on this. You know, the fact that Maxine Waters doesn't even have to live in her district.
- [83:42]
Alad Elahu
District.
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Elijah Schaefer
You know, her supporters tried to kill me. You can watch this on YouTube. They tried to kill me to get rescued. I could jump into a, a stranger's car at a red light to get away from them while trying to interview them in front of her office. Maxine Waters.
- [83:55]
Brett Dasovic
She'S garbage.
- [83:56]
Elijah Schaefer
Anti Maxine who looks like she's gotten too many vaccines. But, but she melted waxing. No, but she, she, you know, she's out there now. She lives in like a mansion outside of her district. District. And I think Tucker touched on this where he said, you know, directly he goes, you know, it's quite hilarious because there's no place that you can really point to with so much corruption where people can be so disliked by the populace, not only retain power but, but rise to prominence. Like when I went and covered Kamala Harris during the original run for the primaries for the, for the Democratic ticket. She couldn't feel half of a high school gymnasium. I have this on video. She couldn't feel half of a high school gymnasium that she became the vice president. President. She ascended right. From attorney general. She became, you know, whatever senator. We have the same thing going on with, with many people, including Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, Schiff. Right. I mean, the list goes on. So that state is something to keep an eye on. And sometimes I do wonder if at very much if and only if, you know, Maxine Waters and some of these people, we should keep an eye and realize that Trump might be playing long term political strategy to break up a cartel. Right? Yeah.
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Brett Dasovic
No, I mean, I, I think that Maxine Waters is among the worst in, in the, in the. The.
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Elijah Schaefer
Would you or would you not?
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Brett Dasovic
Oh, of course not. Like I said, she looks like a melted wax candle.
- [85:09]
Alad Elahu
Would you.
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Brett Dasovic
Hey, if we. So the. Right now we're, we're looking at the, the Senate vote for Pete Hegseth and the Republicans are now at 50 and the no. The, the yeses are at 50. The no's are at a total of 49. And I think that means that even if, if the last vote is. Yeah, it is now they need it though. So it's 50. 50 and they'll need the, the tiebreaker which will be JD Vance. So it looks like, you know, barring, barring anything weird going on, it looks like Pete Hegseth will be the, the sec. Def.
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Alad Elahu
I think it was Susan Collins of Maine's and Murkowski definitely was Alaska. I hate these people voting. The thing is though, they're in purple districts and whatever. We can avoid the politics. What I think is interesting though is that there are whispers that Mitch McConnell was thinking about, you know, backstabbing Donald Trump. Usually I have, you know, surprisingly good things to say about Mitch McConnell, but I'm surprised and happily surprised that he decided to go with Pete Hexef and not ruin this nomination.
- [86:19]
Brett Dasovic
I do think that this is going to be the situation with multiple people. I wouldn't be surprised if you see this with rfk. I wouldn't be surprised if you see this. This with, with Tulsi Gabbard. I wouldn't be surprised if you see this kind of result with cash fatalities.
- [86:34]
Elijah Schaefer
Why do our people flip on us? You know, and I mean, I know.
- [86:37]
Brett Dasovic
Because of their, because they're, they're constituency. No, I'm.
- [86:40]
Elijah Schaefer
Okay, that's, that's like the simple answer. I meant, I meant why is. You know who I mean? Why is it. But why is it that they do not. That that the Dems typically do not flip on themselves at an extent they do.
- [86:51]
Alad Elahu
You just need to look for those examples. They do all the time, but every.
- [86:54]
Elijah Schaefer
Time you'll always see these same people.
- [86:55]
Alad Elahu
For example, example, Joe Manchin in West Virginia. Here when it's an independent, John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. If you ask any Democrats about these guys, they despise them.
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Brett Dasovic
Yeah.
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Alad Elahu
And also it exists, but we just exist.
- [87:06]
Brett Dasovic
And also I think that Marco Rubio like got confirmed by like 99.
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Alad Elahu
Well, he was a former senator too, so it helps once you're buddies with all.
- [87:14]
Brett Dasovic
True, true. But still it's like so I mean, whereas I understand that, I understand the, the, the impulse that you're feeling because honestly, Murkowski and Collins really are frustrating. But it's, it's not really a situation where like it doesn't happen to or whatever.
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Tim Pool
I think of Joe Manchin is like the strongest example of that.
- [87:31]
Alad Elahu
Yeah. And there, there are others.
- [87:32]
Elijah Schaefer
What do you think, what do you.
- [87:33]
Alad Elahu
Think of the argument that.
- [87:34]
Elijah Schaefer
Or didn't he technically like not vote along with the Democrats on this stuff? Like it was.
- [87:38]
Tim Pool
Well, that's, I'm saying a lot of, a lot of conservatives will hold up Joe Manchin as somebody who votes on principle because his, you know, his constituency is purple. So he's somebody who votes in favor of the interests of his, the people that he represents as opposed to just voting on party lines.
- [87:53]
Elijah Schaefer
Is this what we're doing? Because Trump did wear a purple tie to the inauguration.
- [87:56]
Tim Pool
I thought that was about some type of claim to royalty.
- [87:59]
Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, I don't know. Look, okay, so Pete Hag said then he's gonna, he's gonna be confirmed. Allegedly.
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Brett Dasovic
Yeah, I mean I, I don't know. There's no one else yet left to vote and the, and J.D. vance will cast the last vote in, in case of a tie. I don't know if he's actually like there in, in Washington to cast a vote. He should be, I think. Right.
- [88:21]
Tim Pool
He was at the march for life today, right?
- [88:22]
Brett Dasovic
Oh yeah. So he's there. So he's, yeah. J.D. vance as the tie breaking.
- [88:27]
Elijah Schaefer
He's probably going in, he going to.
- [88:29]
Brett Dasovic
Cast the vote on his way.
- [88:31]
Elijah Schaefer
This is why, by the way, elections matter. And I want to remind you guys to you holier than thou people who told me and a lot of people that you had problems with Trump and that you weren't going to vote for him because things wouldn't be different. Well, let's start keeping a tally here tonight. Things would be different. You like literally right here when we're talking about. It's not something that Pete Hackseth would have been appointed, but saying, look, you see, J.D. vance is coming to break a tie right now. The immediate Trump administration, not only who they are confirming, but also having to actually vote do the split in the Senate. So let's say that we had a split in the Senate again regardless. You know, we had the same outcome right now. And who would be deciding what would be happening right now? It would be who's in power. So they would be getting who they wanted and it would be at their own command. So right now it's like, look, I'm very happy Trump's in office. And to the morons who have all points today, we're like, you know, I didn't vote for Trump because he's not, you know, pro life enough. Look, I don't like IVF myself itself. I think it's an abhorrent, barbaric practice. I do not like abortion. I didn't, I don't think anyone here loves it. I think people that even support it or believe it should be legal don't like it. I hope you don't like it even if you support it. But at the same time, you know, Trump releasing and pardoning the, the, the people persecuted for standing in front of the abortion clinics. You know, he've always been very pro life also in the activism at the, at the marches, supporting the activists. In their place, the Supreme Court picks overturning Roe v. Wade. I mean, what we're seeing here is, is an absolute overhaul of the direction of the United States government, and it is going towards the right wing. And again, it's never going to be as much. But I just want to remind people, because I know Phil, you know, a lot of people, too. A lot of people, my camp, your camp, different camps were just like, had their dumb reasons why. It's like, I'm not voting for. My favorite one was I'm not voting for Trump because they're going to let more Indians into office. Meanwhile, the other option was an Indian woman. So that was like, that never made sense to me. He's going to let more legal image. We don't want an Indians in the country. Okay, here's an Indian woman.
- [90:14]
Tim Pool
A lot of people have been surprised at, at how fast he hit the ground running. Do you think part of that is because he's probably expecting to be impeached at some point in the.
- [90:23]
Brett Dasovic
Well, no, because, look, the fact of the matter is he's only got 18 months to get anything done because as of after 18 months and people start running for reelection and stuff, midterms, and people are paying attention to midterms and stuff. So he has to get as much done as he can. He's probably only going to get, if I understand correctly, there's probably two bills they're going to get, there's going to be a, an omnibus bill where you're going to shove everything in. And we were, we, we talked about this the, the other day, and Tim was like, yo, they should, they should not do this and not do that and not do this. And it's like, look, man, he's only going to get a couple options or a couple chances to do anything. So you are going to have to make deals because we don't have a, A, a made, you know, huge majority. So if you want things, you're going to have to, to get a, you're going to get a bill that has a bunch of garbage in it. So everybody, like, write this down in your calendar. Now, when the next bill comes up for an actual vote, it's going to have a bunch of you don't want. It's going to have tons of stuff that you don't want. It's going to be full to the brim of stuff that you don't want. But if it has the stuff that you do want, you have to accept that because otherwise you don't get anything. And fair enough, if you're like, like, well, then let's not do anything. That's, if that's your take, then fine. But if you want to get things done, if you want to actually save America, if you want to shrink the government, you want to actually make changes, you're gonna have to under, you're gonna, you have to understand, you're gonna have to deal with the fact that we don't have the kind of majority where you can just shove through whatever you've ever been married.
- [91:54]
Elijah Schaefer
You know what I mean? I'm just saying it's like, get married and you'll find out, you know, it's, you have to make compromises, both of you guys. So I, I do think, by the way, I'm gonna say that real fast to the people that do lean more. Ext. We've been playing to a lot of that out there. And I know no one will ever like people taking a centrist position, and I'm not one. However, I will much rather take Trump's centrist vision for the country that's pro nationalist than whatever Kamala and Joe Biden, the deep state were bringing to the table. I don't know if I'm alone on that, but it's like, it is not a right wing nationalist dream. But at the same time, I mean, when you talk about the better of two evils or definitely getting good stuff done, I think Trump is proving himself up front and proving people who said don't vote for Trump sort of to be look a little silly. That's my personal opinion and some of them are my friends. But, you know, he's doing a pretty damn good job. And if you, if your whole life is, well, he could be doing better. He could be doing better then. What the hell are you, dude? Are you buff? Are you perfect? Do you have everything you want? No, that's the.
- [92:46]
Brett Dasovic
The typical. That's one of the things that. That makes me loathe even calling myself a libertarian at all, is because the libertarians are just notorious for, like, making the perfect. Well, they make the perfect the enemy of the good.
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Alad Elahu
The left.
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Brett Dasovic
Stop it. They make the. The perfect horse. Stop. Stop it. If they make the perfect the enemy of the good, they start, they say, well, I'm not getting everything I want, so then I'm just going to go ahead and tear it all down. By the way, both a massive problem.
- [93:11]
Alad Elahu
Bold prediction on how the votes will go on this huge omnibus bill. It'll be down party lines and then with Thomas Massie voting. Abstaining or voting against.
- [93:19]
Brett Dasovic
Yeah, which is fine.
- [93:20]
Alad Elahu
The same thing as the speaker race. So no goodies for him. I guess so.
- [93:24]
Brett Dasovic
He never wants. He doesn't want goodies anyways. Look, the only thing that I want.
- [93:28]
Alad Elahu
District should want goodies. Sounds like he's not representing them.
- [93:31]
Brett Dasovic
He. I mean, he keeps getting reelected, so they can't want many goodies.
- [93:34]
Tim Pool
So. Maxine Waters.
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Alad Elahu
Oh, yeah.
- [93:36]
Elijah Schaefer
She'll never. She'll get elected when she's dead.
- [93:38]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [93:39]
Elijah Schaefer
I don't know. I'm just. I'm feeling pretty popular.
- [93:41]
Brett Dasovic
Wow.
- [93:45]
Alad Elahu
Pelosi.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah.
- [93:48]
Tim Pool
Saying if it's blue enough, it doesn't matter. They'll just vote for you because the party line says so.
- [93:52]
Elijah Schaefer
Well, I think it's deeper than that. I think. Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not going to get into it because, you know, YouTube doesn't like that stuff.
- [93:57]
Tim Pool
Plus, it's super chat time.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah. Well, great.
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Brett Dasovic
Is it super chat time?
- [94:01]
Tim Pool
Yes, it is.
- [94:01]
Brett Dasovic
Oh, you. You. He's like, let's get to this, please.
- [94:04]
Elijah Schaefer
All right.
- [94:05]
Brett Dasovic
I guess we can do some super chats. Let's see here.
- [94:09]
Elijah Schaefer
You did good, Phil.
- [94:10]
Alad Elahu
You did really good.
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Brett Dasovic
You did.
- [94:12]
Elijah Schaefer
No, you did.
- [94:13]
Tim Pool
Thank you very much.
- [94:15]
Alad Elahu
Chat. Did you guys have a good tonight Tonight with Phil? I know I did.
- [94:19]
Elijah Schaefer
I mean, it felt like a different show, right? It wasn't. It's like a band, right? You can get a new lead single, singer. Just change your band name. It doesn't mean you're not good in the new band. Get. Change your band names. You're a new band. It's my opinion, but it's like. It is a different show. But I would say this. You should get into podcasting. I'm kidding you. I know.
- [94:34]
Alad Elahu
You're Elijah. I'M very happy I'm still here. While you still have the beanie on. It feels like he's still here.
- [94:40]
Elijah Schaefer
Phil, you're doing a really good tonight, but who is that?
- [94:42]
Alad Elahu
Who's that?
- [94:44]
Elijah Schaefer
He speaks really fast. He's like.
- [94:45]
Alad Elahu
Well, I thought that's like a Shapiro Obama mix.
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Elijah Schaefer
They're all morphing into one. It's a Shapiro pool. You know, Shapiro cool. It's. It's one giant cabal. Someone said in. In the chat, like you haven't even called out the Jewish control of the entire world. So there you go. There it is. I already. I called out before.
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Tim Pool
The show does not call it out.
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Brett Dasovic
They're in control. We couldn't call it out.
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Elijah Schaefer
No, I called out, Elon, what do you think I said?
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Alad Elahu
You exposed the Jews on irl.
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Brett Dasovic
All right, all right, all right. So we'll do some cheap unsubb thoughts. What do we get?
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Elijah Schaefer
My heart.
- [95:18]
Brett Dasovic
You want, you want, you want. We'll start with Shane H. Wilder here. Shane H. Wilder says after hearing about the AS9 West Virginia regulations, I came up with this take me home corporate roads because it's clear I don't belong West Virginia. I don't want you. Take me home corporate roads. Cheers to that one. That's a good one.
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Tim Pool
I do want to mention that Morrissey.
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Brett Dasovic
No, no, go ahead.
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Tim Pool
That Morrissey, when he was campaigning for West Virginia, we were at an Olive Garden, of all places. I told you guys this beforehand. And he came in and was just interrupting people's dinner to talk about politics.
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Elijah Schaefer
Them.
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Tim Pool
If there was anything that would make me not vote for you, it's to interrupt when I'm eating so that I can talk about your crappy policy.
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Alad Elahu
Isn't there something so Average Joe about meeting voters in the Olive Garden places? I don't know how things are in West Virginia, but. And I was very down to earth. Hey, I'm a regular guy. I go to Olive Garden. You go to Olive Garden.
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Tim Pool
I did appreciate when he.
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Elijah Schaefer
I get the bread sticks and like I did the Taco Bell of, Of. Of Italian. But by the way, I, Danny would jock on. On Olive Garden. It is pretty good, no? The breadsticks and the Alfredo sauce together. I was too poor to afford Alfredo sauce. And when we could afford, you know, Olive Garden thought we were rich. So I grew up thinking that was like what rich people ate. And maybe it's my bias, but those breadsticks and that salad, there's no. Nothing hits like the bread.
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Tim Pool
I will take no Olive Garden slander here tonight.
- [96:37]
Elijah Schaefer
I'M just saying the nothing hits. The salad is colder than mouse.
- [96:40]
Alad Elahu
Look, if it's unlimited. If it's unlimited anything, it's for me. I don't know what to tell you.
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Brett Dasovic
I Disagree. Let's see. Barrett 1313 says DEI will be rebranded E O E D E O E. Equal Opportunity Employment Department. Commies always play word games. And that is true. That is an actual true statement. Communists are always playing word games. Nothing is really. It's all the same stuff. It's all. All Marxist power dynamics, whether it be proletariat versus the property owners or black versus white or whatever. That's, you know, it's all critical race theory.
- [97:18]
Alad Elahu
Then we got to dei.
- [97:22]
Tim Pool
When you guys are talking about fascism, you're like, okay, let's settle on a definition first. Because all of the definitions for all of these terms have been adjusted so much over the last few years that you don't even know what it means.
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Alad Elahu
I don't think we ever got a definition. So it's hard to define these stuff.
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Brett Dasovic
When part of the reason. Part of the reason why. Why the communists play word games is because they don't realize it. But they're all descendants of Hagel and Hagel didn't. Hagel said, look, history uses people and casts them aside. Hagel doesn't care about the person, and he doesn't never cared about who was saying what. And honestly, what was being said isn't the important part. It's the ideas behind it. So if it was Mark saying it or whether it was Herbert Marcus saying it, or whether it be, you know, Angela Davis saying it or whoever, whatever, it doesn't matter who's carrying the message. And it doesn't matter if the power dynamic that is being presented to you is the rich versus the poor or black versus white. The point is the revolution. It is always the revolution. It is never anything other than the revolution. The. The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.
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Tim Pool
So that's why they can tell you that you can be racist, but somebody of another skin color cannot.
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Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, yeah. And I like to say we're all racist. Is. It's. It's just how much you are, how much you aren't. But, I mean, that's actually the truth, though. I mean, literally everybody is a little bit recognizing today. No, I'm saying everybody recognizes today that there are differences. And when they define racism as any recognition of any race or any differences that makes you racist, then they're able to control the terms because now they've made it A negative connotation and they can weaponize it against who they are.
- [98:49]
Tim Pool
That doesn't matter because they also redefine it and say if you don't recognize the difference between. Correct.
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Elijah Schaefer
There used to be anti racism. Have to you we're all racist. That's what I'm saying. They say that. So then you have to be anti racist because it's in your heart. It's, it's on. What's it called? Unrealized or, or your internalized, internalized racism.
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Brett Dasovic
But this is, this is, this is more, this is. The, the dynamic you're talking about is just an example of the fact that it doesn't matter who's being called racist or actually what you're. What is being said. The idea is there is a problem and I must be in control to change this situation. It's about the revolution. It's not about the real problem. It's not about who has money and, and who doesn't. It's not about who is in control. It's about the people that are, that are saying you're racist or you're a pro. You're. You're a property owner, you're bourgeoisie, so you're evil. Those people are using this dynamic to assault the people that have what they want. And they will continue to do that until they get power over whatever it is they're looking for.
- [99:47]
Tim Pool
It's the same reason you see so many of them in charities and NGOs, because they understand that if they solve the problem of their organization, they are inherently going to go out of business. Same mindset.
- [99:56]
Elijah Schaefer
Rest in peace, George Floyd. Revolution. That was what we heard.
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Brett Dasovic
Well, it's revolution, you know, that's the important part. So let's see here. Autumn Fire. Is that the one you're. You're looking at there, Serge? Autumn Fire says the left is gonna and moan ensue and call everyone a Nazi for the next four years, just like last time. Correct. We cannot let that distract from the movement like they did last time. This is true. And I do think that the, the positive thing about the situation now is that the, the modern American has kind of grown tired of being called names for being pro America. Being called names for being like, well, I don't feel bad about my skin color. I don't feel like I should be, you know, treated badly just because of the way that I was born. I think people are sick and tired of hearing Nazi. I think everybody, everyone, if you look at the way that people behaved about the whole, you know, Elon Musk sending his heart out. They. Very quickly, people were like, normies on the right, right? People that. That five, seven years ago would have been like, oh, they'd have been clutching their pearls. Oh, my God, how could he do that? They're like, look, this is the same stuff they've been saying forever. And, and to. To their credit, these are the people that finally got around to. To looking at the original tape of the very fine people hoax. And they said, oh, they do lie about whether or not someone is a Nazi when they're calling people Nazi. Like, the whole verifying people hoax has probably been the best inoculation against the left's tactics that probably you could. You could find.
- [101:32]
Alad Elahu
You know, can I give a quick conspiratorial stuff?
- [101:36]
Elijah Schaefer
Canceled, actually. I was like, so seriously, let a lot.
- [101:42]
Brett Dasovic
Let a lot go.
- [101:43]
Elijah Schaefer
That's ice. It's coming to get you, buddy. Deportations.
- [101:46]
Brett Dasovic
Go ahead.
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Alad Elahu
Conspiracial take on the Elon Musk stuff is that this guy's way too smart to not know what he was doing, but he knew he'd have the plausible deniability of it. And Elon Musk loves the media attention, so he was baiting this, knowing that a lot of the leftist media would come out against him and that he'd have a bunch of people on the right defending him. He wanted the attention during the. It was right after the Trump inauguration. It was a perfect time to make him the new cycle. And I think Elon Musk again and again proven himself to be a savvy media actor. And he's very trollish. And I don't think he's beyond doing something like this to bait people into.
- [102:19]
Brett Dasovic
Getting such a big reaction that, honestly, even if you're right, I don't care. Because at the end of the day, I don't believe that Elon Musk is actually a Nazi. Like, there's no part of me that believes he's. He's, you know, a nationalist.
- [102:31]
Alad Elahu
It helped make him. It helped make his name the biggest name. The news cycle for a day or two, and people need to understand how valuable that is.
- [102:38]
Brett Dasovic
Fair enough, but.
- [102:39]
Elijah Schaefer
But again, creating the paper trail so they build the case. That's what it is, man. It's. It's building the Google search. It's like the ranking of the people.
- [102:45]
Brett Dasovic
It's like articles start to believe. I don't believe that Musk is actually enough.
- [102:49]
Elijah Schaefer
No, no, I'm talking about why the media does it. It's like. It's like. Because what it is, is, like, is like you'll notice this, right? I used to work with Glenn Beck and, and like he would say he'd have somebody on his show who would say something conspiratorial and then the next day an article would mention something true, he said, but to counter him, it would say Glenn Beck, who recently hosted virulent conspiracy theorists, said. And so it's creating this ranking, sort of like SEO, human credit score that they bring onto people that they can use their own articles as their own source to back up their, it's like their own points. It's like using Wikipedia, but you wrote your own entry to support your own historical point. And that's why they do this. It's like it's a circle jerk where they feel like they're justified in the worldview because I'm from New York Times, but someone from ABC said that you're a Nazi. And so I can quote abc, but it's like, what world are you living in? Because that was also you under a different pen name. So it's, you know what I'm talking about in the media. They just use it as a way to justify their bullshit circle jerk worldview. And I think the rest of us that are sort of opting out of it are taking it for granted because, you know, countries like the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, they're still stuck on the mainstream media Circle jerk. We are sort of out of it. I mean, someone says that, that, that, that Joe Rogan's a Nazi, it's like we're way past that. But right now, still in Australia, if you were on Joe Rogan as a politician, you could get disqualified because you want it. Yeah, you run a Nazi podcast.
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Alad Elahu
I think the true circle jerk is the circular, not a joke. ABC reports ny New York Times sources them. Reuters sources the New York Times by hyperlink. So yeah, we're going in circles with an outlandish claim. And then it gets cycled through true, and next thing you know it's on Wikipedia being accepted as truth.
- [104:23]
Brett Dasovic
I feel like it gets onto Wikipedia very early because that place is run by crazy leftists.
- [104:27]
Elijah Schaefer
I heard on Tim Cast news that he was not a Nazi. So that's my source.
- [104:30]
Brett Dasovic
So, yeah, you know, I think you're right.
- [104:33]
Tim Pool
Well, the problem that, that I find with all that now is everybody just dismisses everybody else's news sources anyways. So the best thing you can do is to find an, an argument that can be bolstered through their own news sources. Otherwise they're going to look at anything you say. Well, that site isn't credible, so it doesn't matter.
- [104:49]
Brett Dasovic
I agree totally. Let's see here. What do we got? What do we got? What do we got? Jonathan Almer says as an Aussie, I hate the talk that Finland should be neutral. No, I don't trust China. I want us aligned with the US not told to play nice with both. I'm not sure what the hell he's talking about.
- [105:09]
Elijah Schaefer
I want women to have free tampons. What? I don't know what that means. I like. That's confusing man. That like to do that.
- [105:18]
Brett Dasovic
Young P. Chan says Elijah, I love you my nibba always. Grower gang for life. What is he saying?
- [105:23]
Elijah Schaefer
Okay, it's the fact that look, life is not about what you're showing. Even if you're growing, you can. It's as long as you are able to show when it's needed. So we're the grower gang because we are able to show up when we're called upon. Even if we're unimpressive the rest of the rest of the time. There you go. I'll leave. I'll leave the words to be clean.
- [105:41]
Brett Dasovic
That's my favorite super chat. Super.
- [105:42]
Elijah Schaefer
So far tonight gang, we have stickers too free. It's grower gang helping you grow into a stronger person in every place from your heart to to. To your. Yeah, any.
- [105:52]
Brett Dasovic
Anyways.
- [105:53]
Elijah Schaefer
Anyways.
- [105:53]
Brett Dasovic
Anyways. Del Mar says the other entries into NATO is simple. They want the massive warehouse of American pre positioned hardware, tanks, helos, arty, etc with minimum personnel for up to keep. America flies in the troops and the tanks roll within 12 to 48 hours of an invasion. I mean I think that there's. There might be some truth to that but. Stop it. Serge, everybody. You guys should see the garbage that I have to put up with. But for when I'm filling.
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Elijah Schaefer
He's naked. We're all.
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Brett Dasovic
We're uncomfortable off camera. I think that there's. There might be some truth to that. But at the same time like the United States is really really good at. The military is really good at logistics. Right? Like you. If you really piss the United States off, there will be a Burger King in your country within 36 hours. Like they're going to have a Pizza Hut. A taco.
- [106:47]
Elijah Schaefer
I know, it is crazy.
- [106:49]
Brett Dasovic
Yeah. Olive Garden and the. And there will be a Skee ball.
- [106:53]
Elijah Schaefer
Playing Chuck E. Cheese. There'll be a mobile Chuck E. Cheese. The kids will be there. You know, it's like crazy stuff.
- [106:58]
Brett Dasovic
No joke. So I, I do. I understand what you're saying. But at the same time, if I do think that the US is ability to move massive amounts of military hardware and logistics, if there's anything that the US is good at, it's that stuff along with blowing up bad guys.
- [107:15]
Elijah Schaefer
We're not bad. Look, we're actually not bad at war. Even we lose wars, we're never actually losing. No, because the point is to keep the war going. So it's like as long as we're continuing the buying of arms, we've never lost. Because our goal is as long as we're, as long as those companies are funded, our military stays armed and bolstered, our economy keeps growing. So I think we've won everywhere.
- [107:35]
Brett Dasovic
We have every, the United States is absolutely, is without question the best at war. We're terrible at politics. We do all of the engagement, actual fighting part, all of the getting the military out to places in the most remote spots on earth. We do all that better than any society or any country in all of human history. The thing we can't do do is figure out how to end a war and figure out how to have actual rules of engagement that work. We can do the blowing stuff up part. Awesome. We're great at that. Figuring out how to, to actually transition from blowing stuff up to stopping.
- [108:13]
Elijah Schaefer
Who knows, man, like 16 year olds getting pregnant earlier, they share common with the US government. They don't know when to pull out. And that's the problem. It's like it is always an issue and we end up leaving a big mess.
- [108:25]
Brett Dasovic
Yeah.
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Elijah Schaefer
And I just got to say it is funny though. And then when we pull out, it is, it is pretty disastrous. But ultimately that's why everyone's like, oh, they left weaponry in Afghanistan. I'm like, all according to plan. So like we got this. So I, I, I think I, I'm a little more sinister in that way. I feel like the banks and the military and all this stuff, we, we are not losing. I only want to say that to people like we keep, we lost in Afghanistan.
- [108:48]
Tim Pool
They're like, what do you mean? We were there for 20 years.
- [108:50]
Elijah Schaefer
Yeah. We didn't lose. We were anywhere sold that we Americans.
- [108:53]
Alad Elahu
Don'T lose wars, they lose interests.
- [108:55]
Brett Dasovic
Yeah. Look, I mean if anyone remembers the stated reasons why we went to Afghanistan, like for the first 12 years that were 10 years that we were in Afghanistan, the reason that we were there was to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. If we'd have left May 7th or whatever. I think, I think they got him on, no, the May 11, they got him on or 2011 or something like that. If we'd have left the next morning, we could have walked out and said, mission accomplished. We did what we needed to do, and that would have been an actual war that the American people said, we went in, we did what we had to do, blah, blah, blah.
- [109:28]
Elijah Schaefer
Should accomplished Bush on the, on the aircraft.
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Brett Dasovic
Exactly what. And it, but. And it would have been legitimate. It would have been legitimate. The Bush stuff was bs but if they'd actually left after they, you know, after they went into, into Pakistan and found Osama bin Laden, if they packed up and left, then the United States could say, look, we did what we came here to, to do. We got Osama bin Laden. Now the, the action is over. The military, the military's operation is, is finished. So we got out of there. That would have been an acceptable situation to the American people. But, you know, whether it be poppies or CIA or whatever reason, people want to go ahead and, and say we stayed in the, in, in Afghanistan. That is what happened. And we stayed, you know, a decade or so longer than a million people.
- [110:13]
Elijah Schaefer
And a couple trillion dollars later or whatever.
- [110:15]
Alad Elahu
I mean, you know, not a million American.
- [110:18]
Elijah Schaefer
I said a million people, people.
- [110:20]
Tim Pool
Mr. Raytheon is like, no, it did exactly what it was supposed to do. We spent millions and millions and billions of dollars.
- [110:26]
Elijah Schaefer
I think it was over, I think it was a couple trillion right over the life of the war.
- [110:28]
Brett Dasovic
It was like two or three.
- [110:29]
Elijah Schaefer
Two. Yeah. Two trillion. Yeah.
- [110:31]
Tim Pool
Just how we expected it to go.
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Brett Dasovic
You know, it is, let's see, convincing reality. Said it's crazy. Let's not beat around the bush. The political function of foreign aid is a bright tribe. It secures influence, compliance, or support from recipient nations. I think that that's actually a little too naive of a, of a, of a, of a take. I don't think that he's wrong, but I think that it's too, too simple. Like I said, you know, that money goes back into the United. When, at least when it comes to military funding, that money goes back into the United States, goes to, you know, people that are working for Raytheon.
- [111:09]
Tim Pool
That's the most sinister part about it, right, Is when people are talking about paring, you know, sending weapons overseas and that our money shouldn't be going there. Like, well, it's going to American citizens and people like, yes, through your tax money that shouldn't need to be taken anyways.
- [111:23]
Brett Dasovic
We just talked about this. There is no tax money. That. It's not your tax money. They just print up the money when they want to. So. But anyways. But yes, your point is well taken. It is, it is probably more nefarious that that's the situation, you know. So let's see some more super chats. Let's see here. The Emperor's champion says you fundamentally misunderstand how screwed up California is. If you don't have conditions to this aid will end up with the same problem year after year. California is incapable of governing itself. I mean, can you comment on that?
- [112:00]
Elijah Schaefer
I mean it's, it's, it is governing itself like it is governing itself the way it wants to govern itself, separate of the whole country. I just want people to say that's like, oh, they're, they're not governing themselves. Else. No, that is a specific and strategic way to govern a location. And they're doing it independent of the government until they need their money. Until they need the rest of the country's money. Like now. And then they come to us for money. So. And then they win every time. They stay the same and they never change. It's all that remains. So sorry I was stupid like that.
- [112:27]
Brett Dasovic
You worked that in there.
- [112:29]
Elijah Schaefer
That was, that was, that was, that was stupid. But, but I, but that is, I'm just saying just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't working for them.
- [112:35]
Brett Dasovic
Yeah, that's fair enough. Fair enough. Okay, let's see. Just because I'm free says the salt and brine that's left over from the desalinization can be sent up north and help create, helped create ice. Just a thought. Water with high salt content has a colder freezing point. I mean. Yeah, but how does that help create ice? Do you put water surrounded by the, the brine solution?
- [113:01]
Alad Elahu
Can I make a fact. I'm sorry to interrupt. Can I make a fact check on something I said earlier? I was looking at updates from the Pete Hedge exeth confirmation and McConnell did vote no. Oh, so that's what made it 50. 50. I mistakenly cited earlier that Trump McConnell wasn't going to stab Trump in the back. And I was wrong.
- [113:20]
Elijah Schaefer
So he got back into his shell, his turtle shell. I was playing a Mario Kart and I threw him a Connell and he's a turtle. Won the race. But what the hell is wrong with that guy? Can we just talk about physiognomy and how evil people look? Evil? Evil. That's crazy, man. I'm not into plastic surgery, but do a face talk, you ugly hag. Like that's just.
- [113:39]
Alad Elahu
He's an 80 year old man. I don't think he needs to look like a handsome.
- [113:41]
Elijah Schaefer
He's a 640 year old demon. You know what I mean? Like I, I challenge you.
- [113:45]
Tim Pool
He would actually somehow look more nefarious if he spent a bunch of money to look different.
- [113:49]
Alad Elahu
So I think Mitch McConnell was heavily involved. If, if it weren't for Mitch McConnell then Neil Gorsuch wouldn't be on our Supreme Court right now. So I think you do need to appreciate him for what he did accomplish while in office. I think if you're just taking him for the negative, you're missing the nuance.
- [114:05]
Elijah Schaefer
That goes on confirmed right now, right in the moment.
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Alad Elahu
I think it's 5050 and JD it's 51.
- [114:09]
Elijah Schaefer
I think he just did it. I think that's what I'm, that's what I'm reading. But I don't know.
- [114:14]
Brett Dasovic
Rumor. I, when I look on X, I see people saying that he has been confirmed. I don't know if, I don't know if JD has actually cast the vote. But the, the, ostensibly the plan that you hear is okay, 50, 50. And so J.D. vance can cast the record breaking or the tie breaking vote.
- [114:31]
Alad Elahu
So Elijah, I wanted to ask, for all intents and purposes, isn't Pete Hexeth essentially a neocon though for what he stands on and look, you're not gonna like it.
- [114:39]
Elijah Schaefer
I'd say he's more of a Zionist than a neocon.
- [114:41]
Alad Elahu
I, I mean one in the same. The way you use them. No. What?
- [114:44]
Elijah Schaefer
How, How? No.
- [114:45]
Alad Elahu
All right, so just even worse, so he's a Zionist. So okay, so neocon.
- [114:48]
Elijah Schaefer
Oh, I don't, I don't think, I don't think. I would say that Zionist and neocon interests are oftentimes aligned because they both want war and they both have expansionist ideas. And that the neocons use Zionists because it helps meet their goal of endless war. But I don't think that the neocons would always need Zionists. And I don't. I think if the Zionists ever broke off from the neocons, it find a way, like I said, to expand NATO or something that has completely separate ideas. I think neocons are involved in so many other conflicts outside the Middle East. It's just that Israel's expansionism takes advantage of the neocons.
- [115:17]
Alad Elahu
I would say back to Hegseth.
- [115:18]
Elijah Schaefer
Yeah.
- [115:18]
Alad Elahu
Do you think he's a good pick despite his Zionist credentials essentials?
- [115:22]
Elijah Schaefer
Do I think that he's going to run the military? Well, I don't know we had any other option and I think he does love our country and he does love the boys and the girls there. And I do think that he will at least lead with a position of care again, his policy, you know, suggestions are the way that he decides to implement our military, to follow orders from the commander in chief. I think he'll take those. Those orders directly. And I don't really know how much he's going to be deciding where we go to war or what. But if Trump decides we're going to go somewhere, if Congress, you know, you know, brings it into law, do I think Pete's going to do a damn good job about getting our Miller, our Pizza Huts and Burger King set up quickly and our.
- [115:58]
Brett Dasovic
Our defense?
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Elijah Schaefer
Yes. Does that answer your question?
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Alad Elahu
Yeah. And I think Pete Hexith was a great pick for Donald Trump to make. Yeah.
- [116:05]
Elijah Schaefer
Yeah. I mean, I love his. Weren't they mad? Didn't they already call him a Nazi tattoo guy, too?
- [116:10]
Alad Elahu
I think they did sexual assault with him.
- [116:12]
Brett Dasovic
Well, they both.
- [116:13]
Alad Elahu
Yeah.
- [116:15]
Elijah Schaefer
That was Trump.
- [116:16]
Brett Dasovic
The Jerusalem cross is a Nazi symbol, even though it looks nothing like any Nazi symbol. And it is not a Nazi symbol when it's on the floor of the. The church that Jimmy Carter was presented in. When. When people came to pay their respects to Jimmy Carter, that Jerusalem cl. Jerusalem cross is on the floor. And apparently that makes it. Not. When it's on your chest, it makes it Nazi. When it's on the ground, it's not. Or something.
- [116:42]
Elijah Schaefer
We just, like, amalgamate them together, being like, Pete hacks Seth sexually assaulted Elon Musk Sig Heil using his Nazi cross tattoo. You know, that's a good headline, right?
- [116:52]
Brett Dasovic
Sounds like you're doing ad libs.
- [116:53]
Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, but it's like, hey, I just. I just quoted everybody. So.
- [116:57]
Brett Dasovic
Trucker Joe. True. Trucker Joe says, I've sent emails and super chats and still am not on the show. This Yahoo doesn't understand the privilege that he has. Wow. Lol. JK. Y'all are awesome.
- [117:09]
Tim Pool
Which one? 17. Who is the Yahoo in this situation? You?
- [117:14]
Brett Dasovic
Or maybe I'm.
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Alad Elahu
I think. Well, my last name's El Yahoo. I don't know. Do you want to be the Yahoo?
- [117:19]
Elijah Schaefer
I have a. I have. I have a suspiciously Jewish last name, too.
- [117:21]
Alad Elahu
So, you know, isn't your wife Jewish?
- [117:23]
Elijah Schaefer
Some say.
- [117:24]
Alad Elahu
Some say, some allegedly. We know who's really pulling the strings in that relationship, you know, if you know what I mean? Those guys pulling all those strings already.
- [117:33]
Elijah Schaefer
Got me earning all the money that she do.
- [117:36]
Brett Dasovic
The hand.
- [117:37]
Alad Elahu
Very banker of her.
- [117:38]
Elijah Schaefer
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have no idea. She's already like, you make the money and I'll spend it.
- [117:42]
Brett Dasovic
You like that?
- [117:42]
Elijah Schaefer
And I'm like, all right, here we go.
- [117:44]
Brett Dasovic
She. She runs the show. She get controlled by the Jewish.
- [117:48]
Elijah Schaefer
Do you know, by the way, this is actually a very, like, random, funny statement. So black. Black Twitter writes its own, like, black breathing organizer. People don't know. So black Twitter is. It's like, own thing, its own culture. I didn't make that name. They did. Right. But they. They came up with this, like, I don't know where they got it, but some. It went viral, like, millions of impressions, like my family history that, like, my. My grandma was like, this woman named, like, Adeline Schoenberg.
- [118:13]
Brett Dasovic
How did you get the attention of black Twitter, Elijah?
- [118:15]
Elijah Schaefer
Oh, do not ask me. I mean, I literally just did.
- [118:17]
Brett Dasovic
Come on, man.
- [118:18]
Elijah Schaefer
Okay, well, it all started when I said that the. The Little Mermaid actress needed. Needed to apply for. You need to apply for a visa to get from one eye to the other. They were so spread apart. And so then. So then ddg, Her. Her boyfriend, who they broke up, by the way, now, and they have a child together. So I'm sorry, ddg, but you defended a woman who ended up splitting from you and leaving you. So learn not to be a simp. But. But, yeah, I mean, oops. But on top of that, you wonder why they don't like me. But, but. But on top of that. And then also he libeled me and said some things that I. I'm. You know, there's potential legal action still there. I'm already talking to lawyers. So, you know, watch out, buddy. You might be black in the streets, but we get in the courts. The Jews are in charge, and I am one, apparently. So when they said. He said that, my. They said my parents were like, Adeline Schoenberg from, like, Ukraine and Romania. So the best part is now is they used to, like, get mad at me and call racist and, like, go at me for being white. They call me like a mayo monkey and all this stuff. And now because they have identified my grandparents as being, you know, Romanian, Ukrainian Jews, the black community is so anti Semitic towards me, it would even make James Lindsay shiver in his little boots. Because the point is, is, like, it's like, you go to my comments, and it's black people being like, you stupid rat Jew. Like, in my comments, you know, and so they hate me because I'm Jewish now. And so I think it's even funnier because it's like, that's even Greater than anything I've ever had. And it's gotten into like articles and stuff. Like the Secret Life and Royers.
- [119:36]
Brett Dasovic
Think of this.
- [119:37]
Elijah Schaefer
I don't know. I mean, I haven't met any of them really.
- [119:39]
Alad Elahu
Elijah, how does it feel to experience anti Semitism?
- [119:45]
Brett Dasovic
Wow. He is speechless. I can't even believe it.
- [119:48]
Elijah Schaefer
Because you put on Ron Coleman's Keeper just to. Just to. Just to blend in. No, you know what? You know what? I honestly, I mean you've been in online long enough. Like. Like I love the hatred and I. I live off of it and I honestly really do enjoy it. But the experiencing the anti Semitism. As long as I'm not going to become 6 million number one, I think I'll be fine.
- [120:08]
Alad Elahu
Hey, maybe, you know, a lot of Jews learn from anti Semitism to become Zionists.
- [120:13]
Elijah Schaefer
I already started.
- [120:13]
Alad Elahu
Maybe you could start your path and. And who knows? There's redemption for everybody. Elijah, what's the next super chat by the way?
- [120:19]
Brett Dasovic
Let's see.
- [120:21]
Elijah Schaefer
I just want redemption, right?
- [120:23]
Alad Elahu
You guys love that stuff. Don't worry.
- [120:24]
Brett Dasovic
Hansen. Heath Hansen.
- [120:26]
Elijah Schaefer
I put my own cream cheese on the bank.
- [120:27]
Alad Elahu
You make enough money.
- [120:28]
Brett Dasovic
Hey, hey. Heath Hansen says Bill is correct. There are tons of handsome talented people that do not have context. So are without opportunity. Look, if you are a handsome person, if you're attractive and you can't get some kind of job, you need to get off the couch because there look pretty privilege is real. Like if you're an actually pretty pretty young lady or a pretty man, like an attractive man that you're living life on easy mode. Get out there and get after it's genetic lottery.
- [121:00]
Elijah Schaefer
You?
- [121:01]
Alad Elahu
Yeah, like when I see a successful handsome or pretty person, I give them a lot less credit than if I see somebody.
- [121:09]
Elijah Schaefer
Hosts and newsmax hosts were hired for their brains, their personalities.
- [121:13]
Brett Dasovic
If you're a millionaire and you look like a foot, then you're like what does that guy know?
- [121:17]
Elijah Schaefer
You know?
- [121:18]
Brett Dasovic
But if you're a millionaire billionaire and you look, you know, you're like some beautiful person. It's like. Well, you know, they. Maybe they married into it. Maybe they, you know, lucked into the job somehow.
- [121:25]
Elijah Schaefer
Charlie, I have reverse, right? I'm just saying, you see that smile with the gums and you're like, that's.
- [121:30]
Tim Pool
Smart as why everyone knows I work hard.
- [121:33]
Brett Dasovic
Yeah, me too. Look, man, I'm not tall.
- [121:36]
Alad Elahu
Is there a pretty person who works at this company? Everybody who works here is ugly.
- [121:39]
Brett Dasovic
I mean, I work here. I'm not gonna say, you know, even if there was, I Don't think so.
- [121:43]
Elijah Schaefer
No.
- [121:43]
Alad Elahu
That's how you know it's a meritocracy here at Tim cast.
- [121:45]
Elijah Schaefer
You know what's even worse though is it gets even worse in right wing media because they would say you that you have a face for radio, but that would assume you have a good voice. But then people like me, like I have a face and a voice for the books. You know what I mean? Like, like. I mean, yeah, I'm not in a written word and it's in Yiddish, so it's like I. No, but I'm like it is crazy how it is. They say it's politics for ugly people.
- [122:02]
Brett Dasovic
It is.
- [122:03]
Elijah Schaefer
I mean.
- [122:03]
Brett Dasovic
All right, everybody smash the like button. Share the show with your friends. Go to timcast.com and join up. Elijah, you got any parting words?
- [122:12]
Elijah Schaefer
Yes, Barack baruch hashem al denai shalom. Okay. No, but no, no, no, actually, by the way, I will say I do have a lot of J. You do know that actually we've.
- [122:21]
Alad Elahu
I'm unsure because I feel like you try to hide.
- [122:22]
Elijah Schaefer
No, no, no, no. That's. As a result, I condemn anti Semitism. I can understand. And I to the Jews.
- [122:30]
Alad Elahu
Is your hand like that when you do that though?
- [122:32]
Elijah Schaefer
I give them my heart. No, but I. All jokes aside, I'm a troll, guys. I'm gonna get them in trouble. I. I just like to around a little bit. I shouldn't said that till the end, but I did say it twice. My bad. But I will say I have a new show out called almost serious on YouTube. It's brand new. We're starting it from the the greatest roundup. So if you want to follow this new project to be one of the first ones in on Fridays at 12pm Eastern time, it's on YouTube and YouTube only. Go to almost serious or YouTube.com@the.the@almost serious TV because almost serious was already taken unfortunately. So Almost Serious TV and go watch the show. It's really great. It's a little bit like my old show you are here and my other show slightly offensive brought together. So kind of serious but not fully in one on ones and it's going to be expanding. We got good backers and I'm genuinely like I am shilling it but if you like this show you'll probably enjoy it and it comes out in between culture war on this. So if you're looking for something during the day, check it out. Almost serious on YouTube.
- [123:25]
Alad Elahu
Absolutely. My name is A lot Elahu Elijah. It's been so long. I'm thankful we were able to have an insightful, thoughtful come on the show though, like we have before. I will. I hope I don't make you regret the invite.
- [123:36]
Elijah Schaefer
I'll put you on three shows. I have a news. I run a news organization so you can host a news anchor show and then we'll do the one on one. Then we'll do the live show. It'll be great.
- [123:43]
Alad Elahu
I'm looking forward to it. So be sure to check out Elijah's new channel. I'm also I covered the March for Life. I'm not a particularly pro life person, but something about the March for Life, the people are so welcoming and kind and I go to so many nasty events where people are generally mean and negative. And at the March for Life, it's a bunch of young pretty people and with families and everything. So it was a very nice uplifting event. I'm going to upload our coverage of that on the Tim Pool Channel channel probably on Monday, so be sure to check that out.
- [124:13]
Tim Pool
Brett Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on Twix at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. Pop Culture Crisis is live five days a week Monday through Friday at 3pm Eastern on YouTube. You should check us out there. It's a lot of fun.
- [124:26]
Brett Dasovic
Guys, keep an eye out for more updates this weekend and I will see you on Monday.