Trump Has FIRED AG Pam Bondi, The PURGE Is Happening

Summary

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Timcast IRL — April 3, 2026

Episode: Trump Has FIRED AG Pam Bondi, The PURGE Is Happening

Participants: Tim Pool (host), Libby Emmons, Jane Zirkel, Phil Labonte ("Phil That Remains"), Carter Banks
Main Theme: Tumult in Trump’s administration following the sudden firing of Attorney General Pam Bondi, political purges, the shifting American political spectrum, speculation on tech/media manipulation, and cultural/alien conspiracy discussion.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the latest shakeups in the Trump administration, focusing on the firing of Attorney General Pam Bondi and broader implications for Trump’s inner circle as rumors swirl about further purges. The panel examines the handling of the Epstein files, speculates on the future direction of the Republican and Democratic parties, and explores wider cultural anxieties—including potential tech censorship, the role of media corporations, and even current alien/UFO narratives capturing the political imagination. The tone is irreverent but serious, mixing political frustration, conspiracy theorizing, and cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pam Bondi’s Firing and the Trump Administration "Purge"

[01:00–06:35]

• Tim Pool announces Bondi has been fired, with rumors of her begging to stay. Trump claims it's an amicable departure for a “private sector job,” but the panel is skeptical, tying her firing to mishandling the Epstein files.
• Key Insight: Public and media distrust in official PR narratives; widespread awareness that Bondi’s firing is fallout from concrete failures, not routine turnover.
• Jane Zirkel: “Twelve days before the Epstein deposition that she was supposed to give, to which it looks like she's still going to have to give. But it will be interesting to see what comes of that.” ([05:45])

2. Potential Successors: Zeldin, Harmeet Dhillon, and Broader Cabinet Turmoil

[06:35–12:09]

• Tim: Lee Zeldin is rumored as successor, with Harmeet Dhillon as a popular dark horse.
• Phil: Concerned that, so close to the midterms, it’s too late for a new AG to repair the damage ("Six months is not a long time" — [07:32]).
• Libby: Disillusioned by Trump’s vague leadership and perceived betrayal on war promises, particularly re: Iran.

3. The Fate of ‘MAGA’ and the Right: Who After Trump?

[08:27–13:52]

• Speculation about political strategy post-Trump: Could figures like Tulsi Gabbard or Marco Rubio unite (or split) the coalition?
• Notable Quote:
  • Tim: “So I wouldn't be surprised if their PR campaign, their political strategy is Trump souring among moderates... Trump fires a bunch of people, becomes the villain on the way out, and salvages the career of other individuals who may come back into other administrations.” ([08:38])
• Jane: “If Republicans lose the midterms, which quite honestly, it doesn't look that great for them right now, you know, we're gonna find ourselves in another situation that it's just impeachment, hoax and lawfare campaigns...” ([09:58])

4. Media, Tech Platforms, and Shadow Banning Allegations

[16:13–27:25]

• Tim details personal observations of platform manipulation—shadow bans, algorithmic restrictions, AI-driven anti-misinformation campaigns, and alleged targeting of right-wing (or “anti-interventionist”) content.
• Libby and Jane are skeptical that corporate media would ever genuinely promote centrist debate without ulterior motives.

Notable Moment:

• Tim: “If powerful mega structures and billionaires intend to isolate political opinion so that only those who bend the knee to the machine are allowed to speak, that's a bad thing. However... if the effect is that genuine conversation prevails... would that be a good thing?” ([26:27])

5. America’s Culture War and Political Moderation

[27:32–31:04]

• Nostalgia for a unifying American culture.
• Discussion of the fracturing of news/media, the loss of a shared "watercooler" culture, and the desire for a return to centrist, good-faith political debates.

Notable Quote:

• Tim: “I would love a unified culture. And I think that's the point of the culture war. So that's why I say, as much as there are going to be... libertarians and, and like middle of the road libs... if it's just the Marxists who get censored, I don't care... but the whackaloons are just outside looking through the window. I don't care.” ([30:23])

6. Media Reaction to Left Figures & Democratic Infighting

[31:11–36:38]

• Media's shifting attitudes toward progressive influencers (like Hasan Piker); Democrats retreating from radical messaging and personalities to court donors and moderate voters.
• Debate on wealth taxes and progressive policies driving "rich people" out of blue states.

Jane: “That whole ecosystem is coming back to completely bite them in the butt because these kids have, like, over-radicalized to the point that they actually are dividing the Democrat Party...” ([33:09])

7. Alien/UFO Narratives and the Public's Shrugging Response

[53:26–61:31]

• Panel jokes about congressional briefings on aliens and hybridization programs, but note public apathy despite wild headlines (i.e., "no one seems to care").
• Speculation the government normalized alien stories to desensitize the public.

Libby: “What I think is the most amazing thing about all of the alien reveals... is that nobody Seems... no one seems to care. Like no one cares.” ([56:27])

8. Generational Change: Tech, Media Literacy, and Trust Issues

[83:30–86:57]

• Discussion on AI-generated content, media trust, and whether future generations will be able to discern deepfakes/AI from reality.
• Nostalgic comparison of past simplicity to today's complexity (“My first apartment, we didn't have a telephone...”).

9. Supreme Court, Birthright Citizenship, and National Security

[95:16–105:26]

• Fury at the Supreme Court’s apparent reluctance to address birthright citizenship loopholes (so-called ‘anchor babies’).
• The panel argues the Court is cowardly and derelict in not addressing constitutional ambiguities that enable foreign adversaries (China, Russia) to exploit the 14th Amendment.

Notable Exchange:

• Tim: “The Supreme Court is composed of those who seek to destroy this country and spineless loser cowards who will not do their jobs. Thomas and Alito said we are obligated to answer...” ([102:08])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Jane Zirkel [05:45]: “Twelve days before the Epstein deposition that she was supposed to give...“
• Tim Pool [08:38]: “...Trump fires a bunch of people, becomes the villain on the way out, and salvages the career of other individuals...”
• Phil That Remains [09:41]: “Do you think he will be the next Attorney General too?”
• Libby Emmons [26:27]: “...the corporations...would tell themselves the second thing, but would actually still just keep doing the first thing.”
• Tim Pool [30:23]: “...if it's just the Marxists who get censored, I don't care...”
• Phil That Remains [46:51]: “I don't think that it's particularly far fetched either...you've seen all kinds of effort by the left to put their thumb on the scale...”
• Jane Zirkel [104:18]: “It's a national security threat. It's 100% national security threat. And the Supreme Court, most of them at least don't care...”
• Tim/Phil/Libby riff [56:27–58:06]: Rapid-fire jokes about alien invasion, government cover-ups, and the public’s disinterest.

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Pam Bondi Firing / Trump Admin Purge: [01:00–07:48]
• Epstein Case & Possible AG Successors: [05:45–11:27]
• ‘Post-MAGA’ GOP/Culture War Discussion: [12:09–17:40]
• Media/Algorithmic Manipulation & Shadowbanning: [26:27–51:32]
• Aliens, Congressionally-Backed Hybridization Claims, Public Reaction: [53:26–61:31]
• Supreme Court, Constitutional Dereliction & National Security: [95:16–105:26]
• Nostalgia & Gen X-Millennial Tech Memories: [83:30–87:45]

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Podcast Tone & Style

In classic Timcast IRL style, the tone is sardonic and skeptical, with sharp cultural and political criticism. There is open joking, frequent meta-commentary, and strong distrust of institutions (government, big tech, corporate media). The contributors are combative but humorous, and the episode frequently segues from policy to conspiracy speculation and cultural nostalgia.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode captures the sense of unpredictability and cynicism prevalent in today’s (2026) political discourse. While ostensibly about Trump’s firing of Pam Bondi—exemplifying a broader "purge"—it’s equally a meditation on how American politics, culture, and media are colliding:

• The collapse of any clear, trustworthy center in government or media.
• Schisms within the parties and what "post-MAGA" conservatism might look like.
• Paranoia and plausible concerns about media manipulation and tech censorship.
• Distraction and confusion from wild narratives—aliens, culture war, viral misinformation.

If you're looking to understand the mood among political independents, the evolution of the US culture war, and the undercurrents shaping the 2026 midterms (and beyond), this episode is a revealing, freewheeling snapshot.

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Transcript

[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Pool]

Donald Trump has fired AG Pam Bondi. And there were rumors bubbling up in the beltway, but it kind of hit pretty quick today when reporting came out that Trump was planning on firing her. And then sure enough, like half an hour later, yeah, she got fired. She's going to be moving, of course, and Donald Trump has said she did a great job and everyone's cheering for her. But on the surface, I think everyone's aware that her handling of the Epstein files has been pretty dang bad. Now, we don't know exactly who's gonna take over. The rumor is Lee Zeldin, but everyone is clamoring Harmony Dylan. Cuz they want someone fierce who will actually get the job done. But man, I don't know. Forgive me if I might feel a little let down based on Trump's administration thus far, but there are several other people that apparently may be on the chopping block. Tulsi Gabbard, maybe Cash Patel. Rumors are, however, reporting is nah, these people are safe and it'd be pretty crazy for Trump to fire everybody. But there is another ride resignation of someone who was working for the administration. So we'll talk about that. Plus a whole lot more aliens, of course, are back in the news because now you've got Rep. Timber Chet saying if the American people were given access to the briefings, he's got an aliens, the country would come unglued. Following what Matt Gates said about alien hybrid breeding programs, one would suspect that Congress has just plum lost their minds. Or aliens have been lording over us this whole time. Maybe those conspiracy theories about shaft shipping Reptilians were correct? Probably not, but it'd be fun anyway. And of course, we got this major act Blue scandal where they may have been taking massive amounts of foreign donations for Democrats. Can't say I'm surprised, but this one's massive and it's going to have a big impact on the midterms. We will see how it plays out. Before we get started, my friends, I got a great sponsor. It is Rumble Wallets. Head over to wallet.rumble.com. pick up your Rumble Wallet now. Why? We have just heard a couple of crazy stories. One is that in California, they may seize your crypto if it's sitting on an exchange. If you're. If you've got crypto sitting on exchange, you don't have it. Rumble Wallet's a non custodial wallet, meaning no one can ban you from it. No one can take your stuff. You can trade bitcoin, tether and tether gold. You can use it to tip your favorite creators like me and shows like this, but you can exchange value, trade with your friends and. And again, in an era of debanking where people have had their bank accounts shut down because they had naughty opinions, you guys should do what you can to make sure this can't happen to you. Check out wallet.rumble.com but don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we have Jane Zirkel.

[Jane Zirkel]

Hi. Good to be here.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Jane Zirkel]

So, my name is Jane and I currently serve as communications director for the Lawfare Project. We are a Jewish civil rights organization that is television taking on care in the Muslim Brotherhood. We recently sued Carnegie Mellon University and found a billion dollars worth of Qatari funding going through the university, through our discovery process and.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that sounds crazy. Well, we'll talk about that. Of course. Libya's hanging out.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm Libby Emmons. Glad to be here. I'm the editor at the Post. Millennial and host of the Pod Millennial.

[Tim Pool]

And of course, Carter is pressing all the buttons. What's up, everyone? Phil's also here. Phil is also here doing. Those aren't devil horns. What are those?

[Phil That Remains]

Oh, these are like.

[Tim Pool]

Check us up.

[Phil That Remains]

Do you ever see 1313 Hours? Maybe it was. Yeah, it's like a hang loose thing anyways, huh?

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's jump into the news. The big story. Trump has fired AG Pam Bondi. And okay, everybody's celebrating. The rumors are that she was begging not to get fired. Rumors are Rumors. But I will tell you this, guys, in an era when like half, more than half of the conspiracies were proven correct, let me just say this. I really doubt the official, like, can I just put it like this? What is even the point of Trump being like, no, no, Pam is moving to an a very important private sector job to be announced soon. Just say you fired her. Dude, we get it. No one for a second genuinely believes this was an amicable departure where she got a brilliant private sector job. Right. Everybody knows the PR game is fake. She got fired, she mishandled the Epstein files. Everybody is embarrassed. She embarrassed a whole bunch of these right wing media personalities. And Mike Cernovich was there and he was talking about how it wasn't an op, it wasn't a manipulation. Like they genuinely were trying to bring people in and say, we're gonna give you these files. But Pam Body just did a really, really bad job embarrassing herself, Donald Trump and, and all of these right wing personalities that showed up. So sure enough, finally she's been fired. And I wonder if the timing is due to trying to get in someone. Maybe it's Lee Zeldin before the midterms. I'm not entirely sure.

[Jane Zirkel]

Well, 12 days before the Epstein deposition that she was supposed to give, to which it looks like she's still going to have to give. But it will be interesting to see what comes of that.

[Tim Pool]

This could be really interesting because this is pretty wild. She could now say, I don't know and she can say, congressman, I was in the process of reviewing our files in preparation for this deposition, but since being terminated, I no longer had access and I have not prepared.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I mean, she also gets super testy before Congress. You ever watch her before Congress? It's actually kind of fun. It's embarrassing for her because she lets her temper get away with her. But we'll all for sure miss that.

[Jane Zirkel]

Last year she pulled out of an anti human trafficking conference and said, oh, I'm sick, like at the last minute. And it was very abrupt and just seemed very strange the whole situation.

[Phil That Remains]

I don't know what she's like in person. I don't know what Donald Trump saw in her to stand behind her for as long as he did. I think that it's a good thing that she's leaving. Hopefully whoever he gets actually, you know, pursues the things that the grassroots that elected Donald Trump were really concerned about whether it be Epstein files. I would like to see more activity on trying to arrest people that are involved with antifa and Leftists that did

[Libby Emmons]

that would be great.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, that were, that were violent. You know, I think that, that, that would be something that would make the, the base happy. I think they'd like to see it. I don't. But I don't think that a new ag, at least now has enough time to do things, to repair the damage before the midterms, which I think that, I think this is probably what's going on. But Trump, if he'd have done this last fall, he might have been able to do something that actually, you know, to stop the bleeding and, and repair the damage before the midterms. Now, I don't know if he's got the time. Six months is not, not a long

[Libby Emmons]

time, not a lot of time. And if he keeps delivering speeches like the one that he did last night, which was so vague, it had very low energy, it didn't give any of the actual information that people wanted. It was just like, be patient. I'm doing a war here. World War II was longer. So chill out.

[Phil That Remains]

That was funny.

[Libby Emmons]

That was not a very effective speech in terms of, you know, what the base is looking for or what the American people voted for. Certainly not what I voted for. I mean, one of the things that attracted me to Donald Trump was that he assured us all that he was not going to start new wars, that he was going to be a peace president. And I feel like he betrayed the country by going into Iran at this point. And, yeah, in terms of Bondi, we already knew that she was the second choice. I mean, Matt Gaetz was the first choice.

[Tim Pool]

You're misremembering. Trump was just going on and on about, we're going to invade, we're going to invade everywhere, all the time. And we were all on the show yourself saying, yes, we support war.

[Libby Emmons]

I think if we go back and check the records, you were the most

[Tim Pool]

in favor of it. You were screaming at not in fact accurate.

[Phil That Remains]

He was using all kinds of slurs for people and all kinds of stuff.

[Tim Pool]

I have a conspiracy theory and it's that my conspiracy theory is that Trump knew things were getting bad. He wanted to go into Iran. Marco Rubio laid out why they knew it would sour all of the Trump admin individuals. There are many people who have careers moving forward or could. Tulsi Gabbard is not particularly old. And so if it is true, Tulsi Gabbard gets ousted. I don't know that it is true. They're denying it. I guess I wouldn't be surprised if right now the plan is what, what comes after maga? Right. Trump is going to be out and he's the personality. So how many of Trump supporters will get behind just Vance? You'd probably expect a decent amount to break off. So I wouldn't be surprised if their PR campaign, their political strategy is Trump souring among moderates. Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn were just making fun of him. So Trump fires a bunch of people, becomes the villain on the way out, and salvages the career of other individuals who may come back into other administrations.

[Libby Emmons]

We're already, we've already seen him, though, not be particularly concerned about the legacy of maga, though. I mean, he says that he is maga. He says that there is no MAGA without him. So anybody who comes.

[Tim Pool]

My point.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. Anybody who comes after him, like, even if he's the. Like, what does he care, you know?

[Jane Zirkel]

Well, I think we're talking post maga, but you know, remember, if Republicans lose the midterms, which quite honestly, it doesn't look that great for them right now, you know, we're gonna find ourselves in another situation that it's just impeachment, hoax and lawfare campaigns. And so really, that would put a stop to a chunk of MAGA right there.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah. You know, I think that there's something, there's something that we haven't even talked about, like who can get. This is a bit of a. I'm not trying to derail the conversation, but who could actually get confirmed as ag.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. Mark Wayne Mullen got confirmed for.

[Libby Emmons]

They did that pretty quick, too.

[Phil That Remains]

I just, I'm not sure that the, that the, the Senate is going to confirm anybody that's going to make the base happy.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. But again, to my point, like, this is a shift into. I think Rubio is a candidate 20, 28. He has been outstanding. Yeah, he has really evolved from 10 years ago. He's been calm, collected, not a culture warrior. He's clearly articulated the Trump administration positions as it pertains to foreign policy, taken on a bunch of roles. J.D. vance has not done that. I like J.D. vance, but he's not done that. I think they're preparing for Trump is going to go out and this MAGA culture war bravado is going to go with it.

[Jane Zirkel]

Do you think he will be the next Attorney General too?

[Tim Pool]

Marco Rubio? No. I would love it if Harmeet Dillon got that job. But Lee Zeldin, it's probably. Look, the rumors were that Bondi was going to get fired and that Lee Zeldin would take the job. Sounds like they were Right. About half of it so far. I bet they'd be halfway.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, I, I voted for Zeldin when he was running for governor in New York.

[Jane Zirkel]

I mean, he would have won had there not been that exodus from New

[Libby Emmons]

York, because he would have Covid crazy, right? There was like 500,000 people who moved to Florida, basically. Yeah. It will be interesting to. It will be interesting to see. I think that it is such a fascinating question. Is there MAGA without Trump? Is there a coalition without Trump? You know, one thing that we saw after Charlie Kirk was murdered was a complete fracturing. And that was, you know, I mean, in retrospect, it wasn't surprising, but at the time and watching it happen, it was certainly kind of like, really, we're all going to go down with this now. We're all going to just sink.

[Tim Pool]

Well, look, what's your, what's, what is Libby short for Libert?

[Libby Emmons]

It's actually short for Elizabeth.

[Tim Pool]

Ah, I knew that.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, Elizabeth, you were a liberal and because the left went insane, I as well, we find ourselves in this coalition.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And now that we have war, which is from like, for many of us, it was the biggest issue. I'm not so negative on Trump. I'm not so judgmental and I don't flip on a dime, but critical. I'm hoping Trump wins. The future is not going to be like right now, moderates like as I mentioned, Joe Rogan and Theo Von were just ragging on Trump. I mean, that is massive for the middle of the road independence or default libs that Rogan helped Trump get right and RFK Jr. As well. I am hoping that the rumors about a future being like A Tulsi Gabbard vs Rubio in 2028, I wish that was the case. And I know it's just scuttlebutt.

[Libby Emmons]

Tulsi versus Rubio.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, just rumors are meaningless. You know what I mean? Like, we're years away. It's an eternity until then. But the rumors were when, when Kent got out, that Tulsi would also be coming out.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

She would be politely and honorably critical of the war with Iran, as she always has been, and present an anti Trump alternative that is not Trump derangement syndrome that respects Trump admin personnel. And then you can imagine a scenario where Tulsi Gabbard is debating Marco Rubio, saying, I worked with Marco. He's a great guy, he served its distinction. We just disagree on those issues. And Rubio says, tulsi, I appreciate it, you've been fantastic. But you are wrong. And it tries to bring a more moderate, unified culture back to the United States.

[Libby Emmons]

Could you imagine a civilized political debate? I mean, that would be absolutely unbelievable.

[Tim Pool]

What's the point?

[Libby Emmons]

I would play into it because that's what we're missing is we're missing that sort of situation where everybody agrees that their opponent has only the best interests of the country at heart and they just disagree on the best way to achieve the shared goals.

[Tim Pool]

Just imagine, right?

[Libby Emmons]

That's. That's the 1986 liberal dream.

[Tim Pool]

You know, you've got you. So I'm, I'm very curious to see. I've been harping on and on about, forgive me, guys for bringing myself into this, but somehow I find myself wrapped up some of these stories, these AI bot campaigns that try lumping me and Jack Posobic and Milanopoulos with Tucker and Candace. And the funny thing is, before these AI bot campaigns started popping up and I don't know, they're all ad bots, but there is this generic thread where it's like, I am done with Tim Pool, I am done with Milo, I am done with Jack Paso, Mik. Before those popped up, I said the rumors were that there was going to be an anti interventionist Democrat moderate base that, I mean, let's just be real. The idea was Tulsi Gabbard versus Rubio. And these were the rumors when Joe Kent stepped out. That's. And I'm going to point out I think I'm not supposed to talk about this kind of stuff. And there's a lot of people in the know with access are probably very, very mad. But they never explicitly said, tim, don't tell anybody. This is what's going on. It may have been implied. So, well, I apologize if that's the case, but I don't think that's the case. I just want to stress the rumors going around with that Joe Kent is not at odds with Trump. He is friends with Trump. Leaving, like Trump pulled him out after he missed, like he tried to run for Congress. He didn't get there. He's leaving, criticizing Trump and becoming this conservative voice of anti interventionism. Meaning WOKE is out. If Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent become prominent players as an alternative to Trump, representing moderates that started to take control in the Democratic Party, WOKE is completely iced out. And you will get a Democratic Party or perhaps just Independents that shut out Democrats, you will get a Democrat or moderate party that say, oh, we all agree child sex changes are crazy and abortion to the point of birth is Nuts. Nobody wants that. This gun control is excessive and the alternative to Trump becomes something most Trump supporters would go. Okay. You know what I mean?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So what do you think, though, about

[Jane Zirkel]

sort of the, like, low propensity issue that Republicans often face in the midterms? You know, how do we overcome the Trump supporters who were just there to vote for Donald Trump?

[Tim Pool]

That's the, that's the point. When Trump leaves, this is the plan they're laying out where you split the Trump administration between the moderates and the conservatives. And now it doesn't matter because you own the board. You have both parties basically aligned with this one, one vision. And I think this is supported by a few things. The massive money going into moderate Democrats across the board in primaries, crushing. Like Colbert teaming up with Talarico to hoax people so that Jasmine Crockett gets booted out. We saw how many, how many squad members lost their primaries, and now none of the. Remember when they were running puff pieces on Hasan Pikers? Now they're running hit pieces and Democrats are refusing to be involved in events where he's present. It is becoming very, very clear that woke and progressive left is, is, is politica non grata. So I wonder again if these are just rumors. I assume there's some truth to the rumors. And the people behind the scenes who are planning these politics are going. Tim, you're close, but pretty far. The idea being there must be a plan in place for when Trump is, is out of office. And you make a good point. There are people who only show up for Trump. So what do you do? Control both sides of the coin. That way the progressive far left don't even have a foot to stand on.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and then we get rid of the extremes on both sides. We're back to something sort of where the crazy people are fringy and everybody else is just sort of middle of the road. And we have forever wars, forever

[Phil That Remains]

that only lasts for maybe another, I mean, maybe another two presidential cycles. Because the young people look at people on the far left and far right as ascendant. They, they look to those voices and they're more, they're more likely to agree with people like Hassan Piker or like Nick Fuentes than they are with, with someone like Marco Rubio.

[Tim Pool]

But they are young. And so we were all age out. What's up?

[Phil That Remains]

You think they age out of that opinion?

[Tim Pool]

Yes, I think many of us, even in this room were intemperate in our youth. And perhaps when you get a little older, you calm the F down.

[Jane Zirkel]

I Think a big problem that we're facing now, especially when it comes to like the threat of Islamification, is this new bloc of voters were born largely after 911 and so they really haven't experienced a large scale magnitude terror attack.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, to those, to those young people like the war on terror happened largely before they were born. And it's just, that's just boomer slop to them. Yeah, we got a good point.

[Jane Zirkel]

Well, that's where we got like Mandami too in New York because I mean, you know, 25 years or nearly 25 years after 9 11, you have these young people getting behind this Islamist, I'd

[Tim Pool]

put it like this. Israel has no support among young people. It's minimal. It's like, what is it, 30% mostly leaning right. I think Pews research came out and said 54% negative perspective on Israel, the US the military industrial complex and the machine that Trump is laying out. It's. Let me pause real quick. You see that letter from the Iranian president where he said, this is not about Israel. The US has been targeting us for a long time. I don't think Iran comes to the defense of Israel Willy nilly. I think the truth is the military industrial complex tolerates a lot of Israel's whims because we do have an alignment in this region. And that means that the deep state, the machine state, is not going to tolerate a generation of people that do not support our operations in the Middle East. When you take a look at the 2000s, anti war voices did not exist in the corporate press. They very much want to go back to this position where again, it's perfect. You've got a Tulsi Gabbard base that are, with all due respect to Trump and Marco, who I think are good and honest people, I don't think this was the right play. As opposed to, with all due respect to Dave Smith. Dave Smith, right. The machine state does not want a Dave Smith coming out saying f your war, F your lies. They want a candidate who says, I understand, but disagree. Meaning as you pointed out, we have amicable discourse with permanent forever wars. Forever, forever wars. Well, imagine if you've got, well, I don't know if I, if I agree with this war in the Middle east. But you know, you won an election and then you have, we have wars in the Middle East. No longer will there be the staunch. Never, never, never. Or Israel, Israel, Israel.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. Because the idea is to push those people far into the fringes. Indeed. So that they could go back to the situation of like you Know, George Bush versus Al Gore, two candidates who both would have ended up going into Afghanistan, you know, Obama, George Bush, both ended up going into Afghanistan.

[Tim Pool]

Are you Obama, McCain.

[Phil That Remains]

Just for clarity, are you of the opinion that we should not have gone into Afghanistan after 9, 11?

[Libby Emmons]

I don't, you know, we should not

[Tim Pool]

have gone into Afghanistan.

[Libby Emmons]

Based on the results of what happened in Afghanistan, I think we fouled it up really pretty badly. And if you had looked at the history of wars in Afghanistan, Russia can't. No one can win wars in Afghanistan. There's no point in that.

[Phil That Remains]

So I, I think the women of

[Libby Emmons]

Afghanistan are far worse off than ever before.

[Phil That Remains]

The. We shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan is a very popular opinion nowadays. And, and it's, I think it's because of the fact that we were in Afghanistan for 20 years. If we had gone in, if. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me finish. If we had gone in, if we had gone into afgh. Afghanistan and done what we did up until May of 2011, and on May 7th of 2011, picked up shop and left. That's just days after Gothic Serpent. That's just days after they went into Pakistan and got bin Laden. If they'd have just picked. They said, okay, mission accomplished, we're out of here. And left.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil That Remains]

That would have had a total. Then people would have had a totally different perspective on the war in Afghanistan.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it's always going to be different if we win, but we keep not winning.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that's because.

[Phil That Remains]

That's because. That's because. That's because it's a political. It's.

[Libby Emmons]

Sure, sure. I mean, I was talking to a columnist today who was going on about like, Trump should just say we win in Iran and leave. Like, just say we win. As though, like saying we win and winning are the exact same thing. Because we're in a post structuralist political age.

[Phil That Remains]

If we had gone into. But the point that I'm making is going into Afghanistan after September 11 was not the, the folly. The folly was staying in Afghanistan for 20 years.

[Libby Emmons]

Sure. I mean, Obama campaigned on, we're going to go even harder into Afghanistan and make everything.

[Tim Pool]

And it was amazing how many people were like, he's going to end the wars.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Like, that's not true.

[Libby Emmons]

And now, having voted for Trump, believing he was going to not start wars, I know exactly how those people.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, this was, this is a formative moment in my life because I voted for Obama.

[Libby Emmons]

I did not vote for Obama. And it was because of Afghanistan.

[Tim Pool]

No, I voted for him. Because the. As much as I knew he had campaigned on surging troops, it was in an effort to. You, you bring in some of the troops, secure objectives, and then you can get out. Meaning like a Chinese finger trap. You can't keep pulling. You've got to give a little so you can release. And the, the narrative, especially in Chicago, was he's saying that to get the votes, he's gonna. And then I remember it was like the end of January was like three days into his presidency and he bombed a village, killing women and children, or I should say he, he, he, he signed on to a strike. The military was obviously already operating in the region, and he signed on to a drone strike that killed something like 20 plus women and children. And then I was like, wow. And I think how old was I at the time? I would have been just like 20, I think when he, when he got in, about to turn 21. And then I was just like, yeah, I should have known better. Like, I, I've known enough from watching the Simpsons, you know what I mean, that you can't trust these, these things. But I was being screamed at that Obama was different, you understand? We finally did it. We finally got a real outsider in. And he was anything but an outsider.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, he was an ultimate insider. And I think, I think that's what people, I think that's what the political class wants. They want more insiders. They want to get rid of the fringes entirely. It's happy to get rid of Piker. They'd be happy to get rid of, you know, he cooked Trump, they'd be happy to get rid of. Which is on the edges.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, and I just have to say I've always supported Middle Eastern interventions and war in Iran and think that Lockheed Martin, Halliburton, for all their contracts in the Middle east and the construction they were doing, has been a blessing for this country. And I, for one, welcome our new pro war overlords. In other words, pick me. The ultimate media. Pick me. No, we'll see. Because as I've already been mentioning, which is funny, I was, I was talking to Jeremy Hambly of the Quartering, and I'd been saying on the show for quite a bit that the effort right now is they are. The media companies are going to start buying out podcasts where they are going to cut off the fringes and heavily promote the middle ground. And you know what? I hope it's a genuine effort. I fear it's not because we've all been, you know, we all suffer from post, Post Censorship, stress disorder. But the, the, the idea is this. Let me ask you guys first. I think we all agree. If powerful mega structures and billionaires intend to isolate political opinion so that only those who bend the knee to the machine are allowed to speak, that's a bad thing. However, I ask you guys this. If millionaires and billionaires and big networks buy into shows for the effort of propping up genuine conversation, respecting the speech and opinions of these shows, but trying to promote conversations that are respectable, thus having the, the, the effect of icing out the fringes, would that be a good thing?

[Libby Emmons]

I don't think the second thing is, is I think that the corporations that would be doing the buying would tell themselves the second thing, but would actually still just keep doing the first thing.

[Tim Pool]

Sure, sure, sure. But that's not my question. My question is, if the effect of whatever the intention is is that genuine conversations, honest thought prevail, are lifted up through promotion and access and the fringes do their things but eventually fall to the wayside, would that be a good thing or a bad thing?

[Jane Zirkel]

I think it would be a great thing, but I just am sort of weary of trusting that concept.

[Tim Pool]

We all agree. That was my point about the two scenarios. I don't trust corporations that, that had giant syringes dancing around. I'm just saying that, like the pipe dream, it would be beautiful if the mainstream prominent conversations in this country had conservatives and liberals enjoying a beer together and debating the minutia of tax policy as opposed to throwing Molotovs at each other. Well, more importantly, leftists throwing Molotovs at conservatives.

[Libby Emmons]

You know what would happen? What was that thing that. Where the CIA infiltrated all of the media?

[Tim Pool]

Well, was that Mockingbird?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, Mockingbird. So I think that never ended.

[Tim Pool]

Come on.

[Libby Emmons]

No. Well, but I think that one thing that we had during the Mockingbird era, if you will, is we had a shared. We had a shared information network so that everyone was getting the same news and everyone was able to talk to each other about the same news. I mean, now we're in a situation where just as you know, just as someone curating news for readers and trying to figure out what's out there, there's no clear news cycle at all. It's entirely fragmented. And a shared culture is useful.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to say it right now.

[Libby Emmons]

We'd be lied to the whole time anyway. Like, can we ever go back to something?

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to, I'm going to say this right now, and I know Phil's going to agree with Me on this one. If the powers that be intentionally spent money to eliminate the speech of gay communists and prop up everybody else, we'd all be happy. W, like, if, if there's a billionaire who's like, I'm going to invest money in a media apparatus that does promotes everybody except the whackaloon gay communists, we're all happy.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that's why CBS is getting in trouble now.

[Tim Pool]

They're getting in trouble.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, everyone yells at CBS as, oh,

[Tim Pool]

yeah, because they want to get rid of the gay communists.

[Libby Emmons]

Get rid of the gay communists.

[Tim Pool]

Now gay is okay. Barry Weiss is gay, married. It's just the communism.

[Libby Emmons]

The commie part is bad.

[Tim Pool]

The commie part is the bad part.

[Libby Emmons]

But by getting rid of the commies, we would also get rid of the extremist Islamists. Yeah. So that would be a win as well.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I, I, I honestly, like, I think of a time when we had unified culture. Like, we've been joking about how the 90s were so great. And one theme of this show as it pertains to the culture war is how you can go into a bar, go to the jukebox, and put on Bohemian Rhapsody. And it doesn't matter who they are, even immigrants, they will sing that song. I went into a bar and there's some black people, there's some Latinos. We put on Bohemian Rhapsody and everybody is singing together. And I'm like, isn't that supposed to be the liberal dream? But then you put on modern music and everyone breaks.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, because no one even has heard it. And it's bad sounding.

[Tim Pool]

It's bad.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And sounding indeed. Yep.

[Libby Emmons]

You could do that also with Don't Stop Believing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And I want to say I knew myself, if there had been any doubt, I knew my son was a white kid when at about five years old, he told me Don't Stop Believing was his favorite song.

[Phil That Remains]

Good for him. Yeah, it is a great song.

[Libby Emmons]

We played it all.

[Jane Zirkel]

All American song. We need to bring back all American music.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, there's, there's this viral clip from what's that show where the three judges can press a button for an X

[Jane Zirkel]

and you can America's Got Talent.

[Tim Pool]

Is that what it is?

[Jane Zirkel]

American?

[Tim Pool]

It might be X Factor.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. All I know is there's a clip from one of those shows, it might be America's Got Talent, where the two women don't actually play a song. They just tell the crowd to go, da da da da da da da.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then they're like, okay, what's this. And then, and then Simon Cowell's like, it's, it's Africa. And then the whole audience is singing Africa. And they've got the different, the harmonies and the lyrics going because everyone knows that song. I would love that. I would love a unified culture. And I think that's the point of the culture war. So that's why I say, as much as there are going to be a, there's, there'll be a bunch of libertarians and, and like middle of the road libs who are like, it is wrong to censor. I'd be like, you know, if it's just the Marxists who get censored, I don't care. Like, if liberals, conservatives, libertarians, moderates are all debating, but the whackaloons are just outside looking through the window. I don't care.

[Libby Emmons]

I would go ahead.

[Jane Zirkel]

I would love to see them also bring this into like the theater industry too. Like take back Broadway and live theater.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. Let's, let's jump to the story which is in line with what we're talking about. This from media. Hasan Piker is the left's Candace Owens. The press treats him like a rock star. Well, you're the press, Mediaite. And so no, not anymore. Democrats have basically said Hassan Piker is Persona non grata. While they were once running puff pieces like media, it is pointing out something shifted and now prominent Democrats think he's toxic and are trying to avoid him. It may have something to do with him saying that we deserve 9 11. Indeed. Yeah.

[Phil That Remains]

Or that babies are. Babies are settlers too, when kidnapping targets.

[Tim Pool]

I really have to point this out. Okay. You don't have to like Israel. Like you are allowed to say Israel bad all day, but it is shockingly egregious when you mention that violence when your opinion is that violence against settlers in the west bank is self defense. And then you go on to say, and the babies are settlers too. Yeah, that's when everyone's like, bro, I was already iffy on your first statement. Like, obviously if someone comes in to rob your house or take your land with a gun, we are like, okay, now we got a problem. But then when you justify going into the home and shooting a baby and it's like, bro. And I think he's gotten a pass for a long time. Here's what I think. I think Democrats were thinking. I think the unit party didn't know how to handle the populist uprising on the left and the right. And I think after Joe Rogan got behind Trump, they went, okay, Guys, woke's cooked. Like we can't run on this brand. Does it mean they want to, they want to get away from it. Like we were saying censorship and all this stuff. We'll make it, we'll come back if Democrats win. But I wonder now if they're just saying we have to. Well, actually no, they're literally saying it. Democrats are saying they need a straight white Christian man who's gonna run in 2028.

[Libby Emmons]

They're saying that because they're racist. I mean the Democrats are so racist they cannot win unless they run a straight white man.

[Jane Zirkel]

I mean take like the school issue alone. I mean what they're teaching kids like you can't believe in God, you're evil if you're white. These privilege tests that Charlie Kirk would talk about all the time. That whole, you know, ecosystem is coming back to completely bite them in the butt because these kids have like over radicalized to the point that they actually are dividing the Democrat Party because they would rather have the AOCs and Zoran Mandamis than the Gavin Newsoms. And the Democrats are like, oh shoot, we went too far.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I mean Gavin Newsom isn't a radical, but he is a shill for whoever's paying his bills.

[Tim Pool]

You know, untrustworthy though. And he's also, he's terrible for his,

[Phil That Remains]

he's terrible for the state too. I mean I haven't really dug into.

[Libby Emmons]

Not an extremist, he, he's just a opportunist.

[Jane Zirkel]

That's sort of like the standard Democrat.

[Phil That Remains]

I mean, I think when you're dealing with politicians or with most of the Democrat politicians. Yes, I agree, but I mean Clyburn's still the guy that's kind of the kingmaker in the Democrat Party.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil That Remains]

If Clyburn says you're the guy, then you're going to be the guy. And Clyburn is looking at all of these people like Hassan Piker and all of the far leftists and I don't think that he's going to get behind them at all. That being said, this is something that we talked about for the past year at least, probably a year and a half since the, since the election of Donald Trump is there is a civil war that's going on and that has been going on in the Democrat Party between the progressives, the communists, the DSA aligned wing of the party and the normal Democrats. I think that at the end of the day the normal Democrats will end up doing what Spanberger has done in Virginia. They'll go ahead and they'll say that they're moderate, they'll say that they're middle of the road. So that way they can get the money from the big donors, but then they'll, they'll rubber stamp whatever policy the progressives can get put into place. The reason is because you're not gonna get the big donations from the big donors. If you're, if you're, if you're campaigning on. We have to have a wealth tax. We have to have a pro, a tax on your net wealth. You're not gonna get those, those donors to, to give you big checks. They're not gonna write big checks to the PACs. You're gonna have to do small donations. And there probably is to, that will come into your campaign to actually win.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, Washington just put in place a wealth tax. Just as Oracle and Meta slashed like thousands of jobs.

[Tim Pool]

They actually implemented it. I thought there was an income tax.

[Libby Emmons]

I think it, I think they signed something.

[Tim Pool]

They signed the income tax and like right before the Starbucks guy dipped.

[Libby Emmons]

Right, right, right, yeah. Starbucks went to.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, I think, I think it was a wealth based type. It was a high progressive income tax. It wasn't a tax on wealth. Well, it was, but it's not the.

[Phil That Remains]

They just have a 9.9% income tax on earnings over 1 million per year.

[Tim Pool]

That's in debts, right?

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah. And look, I mean rich people are just going to leave.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and rich people are leaving Washington and Newsom is talking about a wealth tax and so rich people are talking about leaving California. Not only that, Mom, Donnie pushing it on Kathy Hochul trying to extort Hochul was already like, hey, maybe we should just tell the rich people to come back to New York. And meanwhile, mom Donnie's going out there going, my plan, tax the rich.

[Phil That Remains]

And you've got Ro. And they're like, later, you've got Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders talking about that one federally.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Phil That Remains]

That's going to be a problem for the Democrat Party. That's going to be a big problem.

[Jane Zirkel]

On the flip side in Florida, you have the state considering getting rid of property tax. So it's going to be everybody tax.

[Tim Pool]

That's their principal tax driver.

[Jane Zirkel]

It's on the ballot in 2020.

[Libby Emmons]

Property taxes. Property in Florida, if you buy land, then it's not even yours. It somehow still belongs to the government.

[Phil That Remains]

What'd you say, Tim?

[Tim Pool]

Let's go find some property in Florida.

[Phil That Remains]

I mean, anyways, anyway, I like Florida personally, but anyways, anyways. But yeah, look, the point that I'm making is the People that have money that have historically given to Democrats and to Democrat causes, they're not going to give to the progressives. People like Hasan Piker, people like the Squad. You saw a slew of very progressive candidates in was Illinois get trounced because

[Libby Emmons]

the American people or whatever.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, the American people do not like these policies. There is a small vocal minority that is motivated by hatred of people that have done better than them, that think that the world is worse off because of billionaires, think that the reason that their life is not as good as they believe it should be is because some billionaire somewhere has stolen money or whatever. Crazy person bs.

[Libby Emmons]

They imagine part of the thing, too, is that all of the people who are like, tax the rich. They imagine that Americans are out there believing that they're going to be poor forever. And part of being American is imagining that someday you too could be rich.

[Phil That Remains]

Everybody is an temporarily embarrassed millionaire.

[Libby Emmons]

And so that's part of it. Like, you know, most Americans sit around and like, go to work, hustle, and imagine when they can make their money and start, you know, whatever it is that they want to do with all their money. But if you have this wealth tax, then what you're really saying is, why would I work really hard if I'm going to work really hard and get my money, I don't want to be taxed to death.

[Jane Zirkel]

Yeah, but they're manipulating, you know, a voting block of renters.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes.

[Jane Zirkel]

So that's.

[Libby Emmons]

And they're saying everyone should be renters. Right. They want everyone to not just be renters, but renting from the government.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Jane Zirkel]

Which is.

[Tim Pool]

That was one of the big plays with COVID Was it de Blasio? He wanted to buy up New York buildings for pennies on the dollar after destroying their. Their value through COVID lockdowns.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

People are evil, man.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes, that's a true thing.

[Phil That Remains]

So, yeah, I just don't think that the. These policies are going to be popular. I don't think people like Hassan, I think it's. It's good for the Democrats as a brand to try to push people like Hasan Piker away. I saw Jacobin had written a piece on Piker and how the people in the Democrats are saying, yo, you got to get away from this guy and stuff. And they're saying, oh, well, you know, they just don't understand him or whatever. And it's like, no, they have a pretty good idea of what kind of policies this guy, I mean, he's an anchor baby to start off with. Like, he was born in New Jersey. Then he went to Turkey and rode horses on his family, you know, because I think his uncle's a billionaire.

[Libby Emmons]

Rich.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah. Super rich. Super rich.

[Libby Emmons]

Are we just talking about his, like, $2,000 glasses or whatever?

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, I mean, he's, he's, he's ridiculously rich. He, he himself is rich, but his family's also rich. So, like, he should.

[Libby Emmons]

Generational wealth.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, he shouldn't. He should. He's in no position to talk about the things that he does, but people like Hasan Piker that, that, you know, advocate violence. He said things like, you know, the blood should. The street should run red with their capitalist blood. He's made those kind of remarks. You know, he's made. He consistently makes remarks like that that are absolutely abhorrent, that are totally un American. You know, the US deserved 9, 11 and, and all kinds of things like he hates America. He's not proud of America. The Democrat Party needs to look at him like he is radioactive and push him as far away as possible, because they're not going to. It's not going to be something that the American people are going to actually be drawn to.

[Tim Pool]

I got a question. Are there any podcasts that are pro

[Libby Emmons]

war, Pro war podcasts?

[Tim Pool]

Are there any podcasts that take the approach of we needed to go into Iran and it was the right decision to make?

[Libby Emmons]

You know, I think Scott Jennings has a podcast and he's made that argument.

[Tim Pool]

Big podcasts. Not. No disrespect to Scott Jennings, but, I mean, like, of the top global podcasts, I don't think so.

[Libby Emmons]

That's the only one I can think of.

[Tim Pool]

I think all of the top podcasts are staunchly anti war. And this is what makes me wonder about the machinations of political elites. You know, the Ellison's buying CBS is a major power move. And I think it was Oren McIntyre who said, if you don't have political leaders willing to dump billions to pursue their cause, what hoped something like, then what hope do you have? Right.

[Libby Emmons]

That's what I worry about with conservative

[Tim Pool]

culture, that no one's willing to spend the money.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I wonder if what we're seeing right now, one, here's what I can say. The purchase of TikTok was completely about Israel. Initially, the Republicans were like, this platform is biased against Democrats. I'm sorry, biased against Republicans. For Democrats, I misspoke and we should ban it because of this. And Democrats were like, no, that's ridiculous and insane. Then October 7th happened, and TikTok's algorithm flipped. All of a sudden, it was promoting anti Israel content despite the fact Israel had just been attacked and people had been slaughtered. All of a sudden, then Democrats got on board and were like, okay, maybe we should ban it. Trump intervenes. And you see, the master stroke is, no, we're not going to ban it. We're going to put a pause on this. We're going to control it. Then it gets purchased by US Interests. And reportedly now the narrative is changing.

[Libby Emmons]

We had foreign Osama bin Laden letter. Right?

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. This is a degree of insanity. You had people on TikTok being like, wow, I read Osama bin Laden letter, the Osama bin Laden letter. And you know, it's like, no, no, you don't. You know, he killed a bunch of Americans. He organized these plots. For a long time he was responsible for bombings at military bases. This is an insane degree of propaganda. So I wonder when I see the top podcasts all being staunchly anti war, in many ways anti America, I say in many ways. I'm not gonna play stupid games like they hate America, but they're very critical of the US Foreign policy as well as particularly anti Israel. But then you don't see in media right now the same kind of fervent, or maybe that's not the right word, but passionate investment into a media apparatus to stop this kind of sentiment. The reason why I ask about, are there any big podcasts that are. That are in favor of this war is because it seems interesting that you'll have the Ellison's purchasing, you know, principal stakes in TikTok as well as CBS. But then on the audio side of distribution, it is complete Wild west or it's the complete other direction. The question I then have is, is it, is it that Spotify and Apple and YouTube want to promote anti war, anti establishment, anti America and anti Israel content, or is it just that's what the Wild west is producing because there's massive international audiences that will prop it up. I mean, honest question, could not the powerful interest with billions of dollars make YouTube and Spotify be like, suppress them? We know YouTube does tiny room shadow bans and things of the sort of.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

In this instance, it seems they're promoting these ideas.

[Phil That Remains]

I mean, I feel like when it comes to YouTube, they're, they're motivated by who's. Who's buying ads, right? The, the whole adpocalypse and stuff. That was because of the situation where they didn't want ads being played on what people considered objectionable.

[Tim Pool]

So why are people buying ads on Erica Kirk content? As an honest question, I, I have ads on YouTube. I have been a Google advertiser for over a decade. I have personalized specialists at Google who contact me as it pertains to ads. And when you run advertisements, you select where those ads are going to appear. And for some reason there are advertisers choosing to run their ads on specifically Erica Kirk content.

[Phil That Remains]

Specifically Erica Kirk content.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. So there's RPM trackers. If you. Here's the easiest way to check this stuff without using a service. Open up Grok or ChatGPT and say provide for me the CPM or RPM for topics and subjects genres on YouTube. It'll give you a huge list. Finance is usually number one at around $20. Now you don't get as many views on financial content. Not many people are as interested in it. But if you get a thousand views on a video specifically about finance, you'll get 20 bucks. If you make, if you get a thousand views on a video about news, you'll get five to eight dollars. If you get a thousand views on a video about Erica Kirk, you'll get $20. That is makes no sense to me.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Why this would mean that their advertisers selecting I want my ad. It's like imagine there's a toothpaste company being like run my toothpaste on ads about Erica Kirk.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. Why?

[Tim Pool]

That doesn't make. Now it could be automatic. One theory is that the algorithm updates itself based on the viewing patterns and then seeks to find the biggest return. So the algorithm on Google Ads runs the ads across the board and finds a concentration in this area where they sell a lot. And it just so happens for some reason to overlap with Erica Kirk content. Either way, it is weird. If it is emergent, it is very weird. I honestly don't believe it is emergent because it's too specific. Charlie Kirk is assassinated and then a media campaign props up to destroy his wife. So you get the assassination of a man followed by the character assassination of his wife. It just doesn't seem like an accident.

[Jane Zirkel]

You know, I mean we know big Tech has meddled in our elections. That's like a known fact. So I don't think it would be far fetched to say that they're, you know, seeking to destroy our society and our and our peace and patriotism.

[Tim Pool]

And Turning Point was a major player in helping Donald Trump get elected. And whatever you believe about the Charlie Kirk assassination aside after the fact, I would not be surprised to find prominent leftists at Google and YouTube saying put your thumb on the scale against Erica Kirk, we will make sure Turning Point is destroyed. Look at what these people say behind, behind the scenes. Look at what they're willing to do in the streets. Look at what their judges are willing to do. Is it at all possible that there are people at YouTube who would look, look over their shoulder, look around and then type in? And that not only is it possible,

[Phil That Remains]

I don't think that it's particularly far fetched either. I mean, you, you see that, like you said, you've, you've seen all kinds of effort by the left to put their thumb on the scale at any time they get the chance to. So I don't think that it's some kind of ridiculous theory at all.

[Tim Pool]

I can confirm YouTube has its thumb on the scale 100% can confirm right now. I'll tell you how I know. Several months ago, YouTube granted me the handle Tim Pool, which had been largely unused. Some German guy wasn't using it, was sitting on it. And so I said, okay. So I made YouTube.compool where I put videos that I feel like making. Some are political, some are very similar to what we do here. And a lot of them in recent have been about gaming laws, Pokemon Magic, the Gathering, and just if I have them to talk about, that's unrelated, I'll put it there. Well, something interesting happened. There was a video that I did about a homeless, a woman grabbing a homeless woman may have seen the viral video. I got a copyright flag on it. Well, it's fair use, outright fair use. I am commenting specifically on the homeless issue from what these people in the video were doing, heavily criticizing them for doing it. So I counter saying this is fair use, sue me. They counter with, we will give you a strike and you must remove the video now.

[Phil That Remains]

Whoa.

[Tim Pool]

I make these videos 15 times a day and I've never gotten that one time on Tim Cast irl Tim Caster, Tim Cast News. So I can't even appeal it. It says you will get a strike, the video will be removed. Then when you sue them, you can submit the paperwork to YouTube to get the video to get the strike put on hold or something. And I'm like, what? I've been on this platform for, for 16 years and never experienced this. So I emailed my liaisons, my contacts at YouTube and they said, there's nothing we can do about it. Well, sure enough, I contacted the copyright holder and the company and they apologized. First they tried claiming it's not fair use. Then I said, come on, bro. And they released it. Then I asked YouTube this important question. Why is it that on Timcast IRL, Tim cast news and Timcast three channels all over a million, I have never once been flagged for copyright despite making all of the exact same videos. But this new channel I've gotten flagged maybe 10 times already. Really already in the matter of a few months with only like 30 or 40 videos. So that would mean one of two things. There is a shield placed on this channel and others that prevent copyright claims from disrupting the show. Perhaps it's a platform wide thing where if you have over a million subscribers, they default to we're not going to let you take these videos down because they're established channels that typically know what they're doing, right? This new channel has only around 87,88,000 subs. So they're like no protections for you. There could be something else that is foul play. There could be a restraint on these channels that acts as a de facto shield. Somewhat inadvertently, and this is what I submitted to Google, I said I can conclude one of two things. I said, if you are shielding my main channels, either as an intentional thing personally for me or because YouTube has a protection for large channels, then I am grateful. If however, you have put a restraint on my channels that isolates it from the YouTube ecosystem, thus copyright doesn't exit this bubble and enter our isolated sphere. Well, now I'm mildly perturbed. The argument I'm making is this YouTube perhaps has the main YouTube body of prominent well known shows they promote and they have isolated off a mini YouTube that is a separate ecosystem that does not interact with the main body of work. If you are on that main platform and you submit a copyright notice, the algorithm automatically attacks anything in that sphere that is using those videos which captures my new channel, which was just made, and the channels outside of it in the isolated shadow band bubble will not be impacted. Not on purpose, but because they are a detached node that YouTube is isolating intentionally.

[Libby Emmons]

That's pretty wild.

[Tim Pool]

Which would explain why Candace Owens is propped up and recommended to new users who just signed up for YouTube and why people constantly complain why even after watching the show every single night it doesn't appear on even my channel page. Right, because it appears that there's what's called a tiny room shadow ban on this channel. Or I'm completely wrong about everything. Who knows? I can only say this. It is a fact that I have never that in the past three years we have not received any copyright claims on my principal channels, but the new channel is getting them like crazy. Another theory would be that new channels have weights put on them to prevent new personalities from rising up and causing problems.

[Libby Emmons]

That's possible, too.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. I know. When I. When I want to watch the show, I have to go directly to the Tim Cast YouTube page.

[Tim Pool]

Not only that, but people have complained that it's not there.

[Libby Emmons]

They'll go YouTube page.

[Tim Pool]

They'll go to YouTube.comtimcast IRL and we will be 10 minutes into the show and it will not be on the.

[Phil That Remains]

There's a difference between Premium and regular YouTube. Because I. Yeah, because I have premium. And every night I just refresh my homepage on YouTube and we're always right there at the top left.

[Tim Pool]

I. I think two things. There are leftists at Google that have intentionally done illicit things to further advance their. Their look. I mean, some of these people threaten me with death. It's not even that big of a deal that someone working at Google walks in a room, ups in a computer, and then says shadow ban. But I also think we know that intelligence agencies had access to Twitter and Facebook and were flagging for removal. So I would not be surprised if it wasn't even that political. It was just Google gets an email from the FBI saying, put a weight on this channel. And they go, okay. It's also this thing that happens when,

[Phil That Remains]

like, you go live.

[Tim Pool]

You're supposed to have your little circle lights up the ring around it.

[Phil That Remains]

We don't have that a lot of times.

[Tim Pool]

People are always complaining about it. Very strange.

[Libby Emmons]

That is weird indeed.

[Phil That Remains]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

I think. I think it makes sense that YouTube intentionally creates nodes. There is the principal main body, which is. Mr. Beast will always be promoted to everyone everywhere. And they probably go. We don't want recommendations going to channels like this one. If people. But you can't ban outright. Right? We don't break the rules or anything. But you can't ban outright because it would create a massive PR storm. So they say tiny room, shadow ban. Create a node where only the people who already have access the channel can access it. No new users will. Anyone who signs up after this date will never see this channel.

[Phil That Remains]

Could be.

[Tim Pool]

Could be. I think so. I do. Let's jump to this next story from Mediaite. Ladies and gentlemen. Tim Burchett says America would become unglued if we got his alien briefings pushes for public release. Anyway, he was asked about Matt Gaetz's claim that the military briefed him on alien breeding programs where. Well, I'm going to extrapolate from what he said. Women are kidnapped to be impregnated by aliens. I just want to make something very clear. Matt Gaetz stated in the Benny show that he was briefed. There are alien hybridization programs where people are captured from war zones and migrant caravans for alien hybrid breeding so that the alien hybrids can communicate between both species. Well, the implication, of course, is that they're women because men don't need to be kidnapped in order to get their genetic material. Women need to be held if they're going to provide their bodies for the creation of life. So it sounds like that's what he's saying. Tim Burchett was asked about this and said, I can't comment because I'm still in Congress, but if America got the briefings that I got, it would become unglued. Now I want to show this from Space Weather News in response to this Native patriot says new meteors in Costa Rica is space force fighting a battle we're not allowed to know about what's actually going on. Take a look at this video. Wow. That's crazy, right? Incredible. Incredible. Look at that. Still going hard to see here, but I'll go back to the beginning. Wow. Wow, look at that. Even the dog's freaking out. So here's Space Weather news, Sun weather man. Guys, these are not meteors. This is space debris or a type of landing craft we cannot fathom. Not meteor. Same story as last week. We have seen an insane amount of media reports or lights in the sky or vehicles. Owen Schroyer said he saw UFOs flying around. One burst into flames and found the other two sped off. People tried claiming he was just looking at condensation trails. It's like he didn't describe that. Owen Schwarten knows what, if you want to call it a chemtrail contrail. The man knows exactly what those things are. Infowars has reported on those quite a bit. He saw something else. As he described it. Something's going on. Could it be that Artemis 2 is not actually a trip to the moon, but a delegation going to intercept the aliens for negotiations and they're hanging out

[Libby Emmons]

on the other side of the moon and that's why they have to go over there?

[Tim Pool]

No, we're just claiming they are, but they're actually going to the Orbital Galactic Federation spaceship. So they needed a cover for why they're launching humans and they're launching humans to go negotiate with the aliens who are fighting us.

[Libby Emmons]

What I think is the most amazing thing about all of the alien reveals that we've had over the past several years is that nobody Seems, did they

[Tim Pool]

coincide with Hunter Biden? No.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, there was that too, but no one seems to care. Like no one cares.

[Tim Pool]

That's the conspiracy theory.

[Phil That Remains]

I don't buy it.

[Libby Emmons]

I feel like illegal, like nobody talks about it.

[Jane Zirkel]

More harm than actual aliens.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that we know, that we know

[Jane Zirkel]

of, that we know.

[Libby Emmons]

You go talk. You go, you talk to people about it. You're like, to your friends. Did you hear about this thing?

[Tim Pool]

That's the point though. The conspiracy is that when, when humans discovered aliens, they knew that if they brought aliens down to Earth, it would cause massive economic, economic destabilization, panic, riots. And so over the past 15 or 20 years, they have been gradually introducing more and more information to the public that normalizes the existence of, of UFOs and aliens. For example, we discussed the O' Hare UFO incident. I had just left working at O' Hare two months prior and had friends who were there. And I had a friend who was on Manheim Road who said he got out, looked up, and saw the UFO hovering over the airport. It's a well known incident, one of the most famous. Could it be that that incident was intentionally done to create a brief glimpse in a small pocket of people and then leave? So these stories of UFOs become normalized over 20 years. And then by the time I'm. I was 18 at the time. Was I 18? I might have been 22,004. So no, I was. Was it. No. 6. It was 2006. Right, 6. So now, 20 years later, I'm like, oh yeah, I've heard tons about UFOs and aliens. And so you're desensitized to. When the aliens actually do come, an entire generation of people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know this. We know already.

[Libby Emmons]

So that people. So that it's intentionally done so that people are softened. The idea that there's aliens and then the next thing you know, there's like, you know, Klingons walking among us or whatever.

[Tim Pool]

So I imagine one way they do it is right. If I was working in government intelligence and they said we need to. How do we introduce the idea of extraterrestrial life to humans who believe we're mostly or likely alone? Well, you do what you're doing right now with Obama saying, of course aliens exist. I mean like probability wise. I don't mean literally. Then you get Matt Gaetz saying aliens exist. Everyone hears these stories, start to rationalize it in their mind. The next thing you do is you have unknown objects in the sky. You wait a year or two, and everyone's used to seeing these strange things. Then you have a story of like military intervention and a video comes out showing a vehicle like we don't know what these things are. Slow and gradual introduction and then minor communications. Like we are getting signals from an object. What could this be? People get normalized. They get bored with it and then finally they're like there's. Then everyone sees something hovering over D.C. wow. Another one of these things. Remember ten years ago we first started seeing them. Then five years later it lands and people are like oh look at that.

[Libby Emmons]

It's just the aliens.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Jane Zirkel]

Well, J.D. vance said he thinks that they're demons and then he's going to go to Area 51 to go investigate. So that should be interesting to see what he finds.

[Tim Pool]

I'm so what book was that? There was a story about aliens come, they look like demons and they take control of like technology and Earth and everyone's very happy. We talked about on the show before

[Libby Emmons]

they made a TV show about the glasses.

[Tim Pool]

The what?

[Libby Emmons]

The glasses.

[Jane Zirkel]

The Twilight glasses man.

[Tim Pool]

No, that's. They live. There's a story about aliens come to Earth and they. And no one sees them. They start granting technology and then after several years they say okay, now we're going to reveal ourselves to you. And they come out looking like gigantic devils with horns and wings.

[Phil That Remains]

Childhood's end.

[Tim Pool]

Is that. Was that.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't. That's Arthur C. Clark.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, that's. I'm just Google. I just googled book about aliens that come chat knows demons.

[Tim Pool]

All you got to do is wait 10 seconds and then the collective intelligence. Childhood's end. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And then what happens is they sterilize everybody or something. Is that what it is?

[Libby Emmons]

I don't remember it.

[Tim Pool]

And then take the kids away or something like that.

[Libby Emmons]

Read part of that book and didn't finish it. Ah, I'm.

[Phil That Remains]

I'm so black pilled on aliens being aliens from a different like star system being here. I'm not buying it.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't think it's real?

[Phil That Remains]

I don't think it's real. I. I could be moved if there were a discover if, if they were like like shown like look, this is it. This is the ship, this is the alien. This is how it works. As we understand physics right now, that is not happening.

[Libby Emmons]

That's sort of what I wonder too. I mean we've sent so many probes and things out there and to get absolutely no real response. And I think it has something to do with how willing you are to believe how do you remember how many things are actually hidden from view?

[Phil That Remains]

Well, so first of all, that's true. There's a lot of stuff that we don't see, there's a lot of things that we don't understand, and there's a lot of different ways that the universe could actually be constituted that we don't actually perceive and perceive because we're not designed to see the universe the way that it really is. First of all, second of all, all of the messages and radio waves and stuff that have left the Earth, they've only gone about 100 light years. So that's actually only a handful in the galactic scale, a handful of stars that we could actually, that, that may

[Tim Pool]

be true, but inadvertently the signals we've been broadcasting have been creating perturbations in the subspace radio frequency, which has reached faster than light. Again, they needed to find a way to explain how they talked to the federation, to the federation of the planet. So they created some space. It's like faster than light, radio or whatever.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, I could be moved if there, I could be moved from this position if we are, if there is new physics that we we discover or there's a ship that's shown. But as of right now, the way we understand the speed of light. Because the speed of light isn't just the speed of light. The speed of light is the speed of causality.

[Libby Emmons]

Right, right.

[Phil That Remains]

Like to, to a photon that moves. Like time doesn't happen to a photon, it just starts here and it ends there.

[Tim Pool]

That's it again. But that's meaningless to a higher dimensional being. Sure.

[Phil That Remains]

Again I, I, I'm open to other ideas.

[Tim Pool]

So, you know, Alex Jones and others have talked about this. The aliens are not extra, extraterrestrial, they're extra dimensional. They're from a higher plane.

[Libby Emmons]

So not a lower plane like J.D.

[Tim Pool]

vance says, a lower plane. So they're two dimensional, or I guess two dimensional with a third dimension for time. The interesting thing about it is if you existed in a higher dimension, like you were a four dimensional being. Well, we are, we are technically four dimensional beings, sort of. We can manipulate three dimensions and we free fall through the fourth. If you were existing in full control of the fourth dimension, but free falling through the fifth, you would perceive time as space. So it would be like, imagine if you can go into a building and you're like, oh, this hotel is 100 rooms. It's a one bedroom apartment with 100 rooms. 1999-2000-2001-2002, the Block Universe with like what

[Phil That Remains]

well, there's a theory of the block universe. So like there's a theory that we experience time by linear time.

[Tim Pool]

We're falling through it.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah. But there's, there's a theory that the way that the universe is actually create, like the actually exists is there is no linear time, that that time is a part of space. So it's called like, they call it space time. So like there is no future or past if you're outside of time. Like the block universe is like, it's like do you think of a, like a piece of bread, like a, that's sliced up into pieces. In the block universe you can go to any point in time and just like you go to go to any location.

[Tim Pool]

This is my theory on ghosts. I think that ghosts are actually vagrant demons. So they're extra dimensional beings that are effectively homeless. So here's what happens. Like let's say you're a fifth dimensional being, but you're a drug addict. Where do you go live? You know, the reason we can't perceive them is because they move through time the way we move through space. So there's no point at which we're actually going to see their bodies interact with photons in time because the times aren't, the photons aren't moving in their dimension. But would you want to live in a tiny box? No, you want to live in a mansion. So what do you do as an extra dimensional being? You choose to live in the biggest possible building, which is the oldest. So very, very old buildings are haunted. Why? Extra dimensional beings are like, bro, this house has been around since 1700. It's got 300 years to live in. And so it's like the way they perceive us is like a long snake moving from room to room. And the people coming and going and they just avoid us. Don't walk into a person in their frame of time, walk past or between them so we can't see them. Because at any moment we're a single frame and they can move between those frames.

[Libby Emmons]

So they're like an episode.

[Tim Pool]

They're chilling in the living room, sitting on the couch in a single stitch of time that in a fraction of a nanosecond. And then there's like two aliens. And he's like, oh, bro, hey, do me a favor, go back to 1980 and grab me a tab. It's like, okay, let me, I'll be right back. And then he runs to 1980, opens the fridge, grabs the tab and then the person comes in, house goes, where's my Soda. I bought soda. It's missing. Turn the light if it's bothering me. The light turns off.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Jane Zirkel]

So if the US government knows that there's aliens, does that mean that they should start deploying Ghostbusters?

[Phil That Remains]

The ghost aliens are different.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the. And the theory is that if you consume dmt, you can see them. The theory, say I say the whackaloon. Guess we'll call it that I did drugs and I saw stuff. Yes, you were on drugs.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that happens when you do drugs. I knew a guy once, I've been very questionable. I've found the whole DMT thing sort of questionable because people talk about it as though they see deities.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. The machine elves, just strange beings. I knew a guy once when I was a teenager and he said, I swear, dude, I saw a ufo. Like, I came out of my house, I was like, hanging with my friends in the basement. I came outside to smoke a cigarette and I looked up and I swear to God, a ship came down and it hovered right over the house. And then I was like, are you being for real? And he's like, yeah. And then I was like, what happened? He's like, well, me and my friends were downstairs, we were doing a ton of acid, and then I went up and I went, okay.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay, happen. Yeah. I mean, I took acid one time and I saw a giant cat jump out of my closet. But, you know, there was. 20 seconds later it wasn't there.

[Tim Pool]

Or it was, or was.

[Libby Emmons]

Was an alien in a different time or.

[Phil That Remains]

The idea of you doing those kind of drugs makes me laugh. Really?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it's very funny.

[Tim Pool]

I. I think there is something. I think the government knows what it is. I think the government interacts with whatever is going on. This stuff that people are seeing in the sky I don't think is just random. Like we're not going through a meteor shower or anything.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it is fascinating, right? I mean, because the. On the other side, we're probably never going to know the truth.

[Tim Pool]

What if Trump formed the Space Force specifically because we detected an alien threat coming? And he was. They were like, we have 10 years to prepare for this. And he's like, we have to create a space.

[Libby Emmons]

Is that why he used the Star Trek symbol as the.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe that's why he had Elon Musk in the.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jane Zirkel]

Right?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. I mean, it. It would really be bizarre. Do you think we'd all come together as a species of humans or do you think we'd fracture a party? I think it would get even worse. Yeah. I think it would.

[Tim Pool]

And then what if. If. If it turned out that the Iranians were. Were colluding with the aliens to enslave humanity, would you then support the war with Iran?

[Libby Emmons]

Would I support the war with Iran if they were colluding with aliens?

[Tim Pool]

Like, let's say Trump came out and was like, what if. Yesterday's speech, he was like, this may be shocking to most Americans, but aliens are real. They're here. They've declared war on us, and they've aligned themselves with Iran, and that's why we went to war. Like, what do you think people would. I think you get more support. I think.

[Libby Emmons]

I think.

[Tim Pool]

I think support for the war would skyrocket.

[Libby Emmons]

I think so, too. And I also think you'd have CNN coming out being like, there's no aliens, Chuck Schumer wandering around being like, he's just trying to distract from the high gas prices.

[Tim Pool]

It would be the craziest thing if Chuck Schumer came out, went like, there actually are aliens. And Trump is not wrong. Everyone would just drop a load right there.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, that would. That would definitely fill pants around. You know, what if.

[Libby Emmons]

What if Trump would cure our. Our craving for a collective culture?

[Jane Zirkel]

We'd all be obsessed, united against the aliens.

[Tim Pool]

What if. What if Trump came out and said that we are in the messianic era and Iran has aligned itself with demons? These are not fictional beings. These are real entities that have been fighting us. Do you think people would get behind Trump? I think they would.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, you'd have to have people believe him first. I think there's so many people who don't believe in any kind of skepticism.

[Tim Pool]

I think there's enough. I'm saying. I'm not saying everybody would believe. I'm saying his support. Support would go up. I'm saying there's a bunch of regular people who go, whoa.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, if you'd. The question is, do you believe it?

[Tim Pool]

I think there's a lot of people who believe anything the President says.

[Libby Emmons]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. Also a lot of people that believe in aliens. Yeah.

[Phil That Remains]

Just because.

[Libby Emmons]

Just don't know any of these people.

[Phil That Remains]

Just because it's a lot doesn't mean it's Times Square.

[Libby Emmons]

What with, like, all the NPCs. 100. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And be like, you could walk up to them, say, the President just said that he was going to give everyone $3 million. How do you feel about that? They go, wow, really? And you go, yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

People that stand in a little circle while the spinny light thing goes around so they can make tick tock videos.

[Tim Pool]

I have an idea for a funny prank and it's to create a line.

[Libby Emmons]

No, it can't be. That can't be true, Phil. That can't be their majority.

[Phil That Remains]

You need to listen to Michael Malice more. Most people are.

[Tim Pool]

I got, I got an idea for a social experiment I think be really funny. It would work. You create a line and you have signs saying like, free hundred dollar gift card, please wait here. And the line wraps around a block and then connects to itself.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I think so.

[Tim Pool]

They're all slowly just walking forward around

[Jane Zirkel]

a block like most lines in Soho these days.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. And then like, I bet it would keep going. I bet people would just keep going. Maybe what you do, you have it go into a building and out a side door. And then when someone enters the building, there's someone there who goes, you're here for the gift card. Just the line. The line continues through here. And then people see the building and they're like, oh, wow. And then they all just keep going back around. I bet they would just keep doing it. I bet people would stand there for a couple hours before realizing something was off.

[Jane Zirkel]

It's better than missing your flight at TSA and doing that, which a lot of people had to do before ice was in there.

[Phil That Remains]

That's true. Yeah, I think that. I think that.

[Libby Emmons]

I hate that that could be true. I really hate that. I don't want that to be true for our fellow humans.

[Phil That Remains]

Listen, Michael Malice is right. People are not truth seeking. They are narrative seeking. Anything that confirms their bias, they believe. And most people don't think of anything at all. They just hear stuff and repeat it. Well, and I'm talking about the vast

[Libby Emmons]

majority, like human beings are storytellers. Like we are nothing if not the stories we tell each other about ourselves. You know, I mean that's, that's what we are going back to the beginning of time. Like we tell stories.

[Tim Pool]

Let's. Let's go back to the Pam. And we got a story from the Irish star. South park responds to Pam Bondi firing with savage eight word callback. South park skiered Attorney General Pam Bonnie in a Halloween episode last year depicting her with feces on her face every time she praised President Trump. Well, they reposted it today and it's nasty. So I'm not going to show. You can watch another show if you want. I don't either after show. But what's really interesting about this is we call this brain rot. That is Parker and Stone have brain rot. And I watched this really great YouTube video that I recommend you guys search for, because I remember it was just recommended to me why I stopped watching South Park. And the guy explains, the jokes that south park has begun producing are so hyper political, the average person won't understand them. And he said, as somebody who doesn't really care that much for the political, you know, fight. I watched this and he was like, they make references to unknown Trump administration, like personnel, like Dan Scavino. Who's that? And I'm like, well, I know who Dan Scavino is, but it's true. They make fun of Dan Scavino. Go to anybody in this country and ask them. And they're like, I don't know who that is.

[Libby Emmons]

I literally know who Dan Scavino is because I've been on Laura Trump's show with Aaron Elmore, who he recently got married to, and I've seen their pictures on Instagram.

[Tim Pool]

It's. It's.

[Libby Emmons]

That's why I know the point.

[Tim Pool]

Ultimately, I couldn't tell you his position. The issue is the, like, we are seeing the brain capture of people. These are not jokes. These are, hey, here's a group of people that you've heard of, you hate. And for many regular people, they're like, I don't know what you're talking about. And I think this is one of the biggest problems we have in TV shows and movies right now. We gotta get away from it. Another. Another point I wanna make. There was a great meme where it was. Who was it? Trey Parker said that his daughter said to him, you're acting derpy. And he goes, what did you say to me? And she goes, derpy. You wouldn't know what it meant. And. And he says, oh, yeah, look it up. He's the one who made the word up.

[Libby Emmons]

He made it up.

[Tim Pool]

Imagine. Imagine that. Like, you know, you're a kid and you look up and it's like your dad invented the word you. You're like, oh, that's really weird. But I contrast this with. Here's a guy who created so many memes, it is. It is ubiquitous, on par with the Simpsons. The Simpsons coined many, many terms and phrases. Yoink. You know what that means? That's from the Simpsons. Meh. From the Simpsons. Saying the quiet part loud from the Simpsons. There's a ton of these cromulent and biggin. South park also has a bunch of these, of which derp is one of them.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But now he has isolated himself into this tiny bubble of fringe nonsense that regular people don't relate to anymore.

[Jane Zirkel]

I mean, I just wish America was allowed to laugh again and not, you know, be forced to constantly fixate on politics and division. And that's what's ultimately sowing, you know, all this hate within the culture. We're not just allowed to enjoy things that are genuinely funny anymore. You know, I just want to go back to the days of Cartman crying to his mom in a Best Buy about not being allowed to buy an iPad OR Tally and Mr. Hankey, like, why can't we just enjoy those things?

[Tim Pool]

One of the best episodes is when he wants the Nintendo Wii so he freezes himself. And when he wakes up in the future, they don't have it anymore. And when they finally get it, the adapters don't work, which is all, like, kind of common sense, funny things we've dealt with. Now it's, here's Pam Bondi with feces on her face. And I gotta be honest, I know a lot of people are gonna be like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jane Zirkel]

It really started in around 2020, I feel like, with, like, them making fun of, like, Rudy and Trump in the Oval Office with, like, the election stuff

[Tim Pool]

Mr. Garrison into Trump.

[Jane Zirkel]

Yes, yes. And honestly, that one episode with, like, the rallying in Myrtle beach, that was kind of funny. But aside from that, it's just. It's too niche and it's too. It's too critical. It's, like, not what south park used to even be.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, it's a far cry from the

[Tim Pool]

Pinewood Derby with Baby Farks McGee's. Yeah, that was funny. It was nonsense. Or when Cartman made Scott Tennerman eat his own parents.

[Jane Zirkel]

Oh, my God.

[Tim Pool]

There's nothing there but shock and obscenity, and it was just messed up.

[Jane Zirkel]

What's your favorite south park episode?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man, I don't know. I mean, probably that one. So I referenced it where Radiohead walks up and they're like, he's crying like a little baby. Not a baby. Not cool. He's like, no, Radiohead or Casa Bonita is a good one.

[Jane Zirkel]

You know, they opened a real Casa Bonita in Denver. They have a real version.

[Tim Pool]

It's the. That's the. They're not. The show is referencing the real custom.

[Jane Zirkel]

Yeah, but they bought it.

[Tim Pool]

Like. Oh, they bought it.

[Jane Zirkel]

Like, closed down and they bought it and now they own it.

[Phil That Remains]

That's awesome.

[Tim Pool]

South park was massively culturally relevant, and they have relegated themselves to a tiny pocket of fringe whackaloons who are 70 years old and hate Trump and know everything about them.

[Libby Emmons]

But what is culturally relevant anymore? Like, what is What, Landman? What?

[Tim Pool]

Landman? Yeah, Landman. I think they do 16 million per episode.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, it's a good show.

[Tim Pool]

And Landman mocks Woke.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, it's a good show.

[Tim Pool]

And then Star Trek. Starfleet Academy was doing a million per episode and got canceled.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it did. Even though the last two episodes weren't that bad.

[Phil That Remains]

What?

[Libby Emmons]

The last two episodes of Starfleet Academy weren't that bad.

[Phil That Remains]

Really.

[Libby Emmons]

My son and I, we were. Hate watching it, you know, and then the last two episodes weren't that bad, and we looked it up. Jonathan Frakes directed the penultimate episode of the first one. But now we're on to Invincible. Oh, you know what?

[Jane Zirkel]

They.

[Libby Emmons]

Did you watch the Invincible last night, Tim?

[Tim Pool]

I have not yet seen it. I'll watch it tonight.

[Libby Emmons]

All right.

[Jane Zirkel]

You know, they really.

[Tim Pool]

Was it good?

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, yes, it was good.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Libby Emmons]

Still, like, wondering what happens now. Big cliffhanger. Big cliffhanger.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, but it's not the season finale, is it? No, Invincible has been pretty good. My only problem is that Adam Eve's powers are to reshape matter and she doesn't. And I'm like. She just, like, makes energy, even though she could literally turn the air around someone into lead.

[Libby Emmons]

She could, but now she can't do

[Tim Pool]

anything because she's having a baby.

[Libby Emmons]

She's pregnant.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah. Just turns her powers off.

[Libby Emmons]

It does it turns the powers off.

[Tim Pool]

They say that. Well, I'll just watch tonight's episode and. Yeah, Landman, I think, is like one of the biggest shows on TV right now with massive, massive viewership. And I'm worried because I don't know what we'll do without Billy Bob.

[Phil That Remains]

I want to watch. Did he pass away or something?

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm just saying he's old.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, he is.

[Tim Pool]

And he's epic. He's amazing.

[Phil That Remains]

I watched like three episodes of it. The first three episodes or four episodes. I think it was on. I think it was on Hulu where you could watch them to try and get you to get Paramount. Yeah, yeah. And I'm. I'm going to end up getting Paramount to watch it. I'm pretty sure I'm watching.

[Tim Pool]

They have tons of Landman scenes that just criticize Woke. Like, it's written just to make fun of pronouns that once and then went viral.

[Libby Emmons]

I haven't watched it. Should I actually watch it?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it's amazing. The scene where he, like, it really is revelatory when the famous scene where he brings the young female lawyer out to some wind turbines and she goes worried about green energy encroaching on your land. And then Billy Bob goes, not green alternative. These wind turbines aren't here to generate energy for the grid. They're off grid generating energy for oil pumps because we can't get transmission lines out here. And a lot of people don't realize wind turbines are placed in remote areas where they want to pump oil but can't get power lines in.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Do you think it's green energy? It's not.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that's why on. I think it was the Navajo Hopi reservation, there was like a huge push for solar panels just to create shade structures with refrigerator. With refrigerators underneath them so people could keep their insulin cold.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Libby Emmons]

Had diabetes and that's what the solar energy was used for. And that's huge. That's great. That's a great use of solar energy.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil That Remains]

Especially like, you know, the fact that you can actually put the cooler right underneath the solar array and, and, and

[Libby Emmons]

put out a little chair too. Shade.

[Phil That Remains]

You have some, some drinks in there too, probably some beers. Yeah, some beers.

[Tim Pool]

I wonder about chair.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There's the conspiracy theory that anytime someone makes a breakthrough in high energy return on energy investment technologies like fusion, the US government kills them because it will disrupt the petrodollar system.

[Libby Emmons]

What's this thing where like recently there's been people who are really excelling in their fields in engineering getting killed in their houses by random homeless people.

[Phil That Remains]

Six different people, a bunch of scientists,

[Tim Pool]

and they work on aerospace, propulsion.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

At the same time, when people are seeing alien ships in the sky and the general who worked on UFO stuff disappears.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. That's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

I think we might be at war with aliens guys.

[Libby Emmons]

And we just don't. Nobody's told us.

[Tim Pool]

Do you want to know if we

[Libby Emmons]

were at war with aliens? I would want to know that.

[Tim Pool]

I would. You know why?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I would.

[Tim Pool]

I'd start digging. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I'd be like, I don't know how far down I gotta go, but we're going way deep.

[Jane Zirkel]

What if they're demons and then they come up?

[Tim Pool]

Well, they're in space.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't think there's demons in the center of Earth.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, actually, I will say this. If I started digging and went so far down that a portal to hell opened up and demons came out, I guess we, we.

[Libby Emmons]

We'd know something.

[Jane Zirkel]

We're doomed from both ends.

[Libby Emmons]

We'd know something new.

[Tim Pool]

Actually, that, that's a really funny bit. It's like we keep digging and then we find a portal to hell and then the demons come out but then the alien starts fighting the demons.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then humans just are like, I have no idea what's going.

[Libby Emmons]

Then we just hide out in the Appalachian Mountains, which are like one of

[Tim Pool]

the oldest places on Earth and immune to the great flood that's coming when the axis tilts.

[Libby Emmons]

There you go.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So when you look at the great flood maps, the theory about the axis is going to shift 90 degrees or whatever. That's. Ben Davidson talks quite a bit. A bit about this. That we're not just going to see the poles flip, but when they do, the Earth will tilt. And then when that happens, a flood will wash over everywhere. But the Appalachian Mountains will be one of the only places left untouched by the flood.

[Libby Emmons]

So that guy who was building the ark in Tennessee, he gave up too soon.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's principally going to be central West Virginia. Ish. Where the. There's like a. Like a diagram.

[Libby Emmons]

So we're. So we're lost.

[Tim Pool]

Where we are will largely be safe. Yes.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, that's not bad.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Libby Emmons]

Look at that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And you know, I'm not supposed to say this, but it's probably late enough in the campaign that doesn't matter. But we moved to West Virginia, and The reason why Mount Weather and Raven Rock are within 10 to 15 miles of here is because we have all been briefed as prominent CIA selected media personalities to survive the great flood, which is coming in three or four years. And I figure at this point you can't do anything about it. So I'll tell you now. And that's a joke, but I'm sure there are people out there freaking out, being like, he's not joking.

[Libby Emmons]

Or there are people asking, they give

[Jane Zirkel]

you a binder on it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. But here's a funny thing. There are people who believe it's impossible to succeed organically in media and that all like, I actually met a guy and he was like, hey, man, I watch your show. And he was like, is it real? And then I'm like, is what reals? Like, like your show? And I'm like, yes. And he's like, no, but like, all of this stuff's not scripted. And I'm like, what stuff? And he's like, with Candace. And like Tucker. And I was like, it's all real. And he was like, it's not like the government puts you there. There are people who genuinely don't think it's possible because they can't do it and they can't understand how. So they project and think Tim Cast and Candace Tucker and Cenk Uygur must be selected by the elites to be the play actors on the great stage of the narrative machine.

[Libby Emmons]

That'd be pretty weird.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I wish it would be less stressful.

[Phil That Remains]

Can you blame them though?

[Libby Emmons]

Stressful, but I mean, for a lot

[Jane Zirkel]

of people it's like their version of wwe.

[Phil That Remains]

It is, yeah. I mean, can you really blame people for kind of being like that? Like they don't know. People don't have any idea what's real. They don't. All the institutions, they don't trust them anymore. And now you've got AI basically, you know, annihilating their brains with, with videos and stuff that you, you literally can't tell the difference from real only, or you can only tell the difference between whether it's real or not by what's happening in it. And you have to. Okay, that's too absurd to be real. But there's, you know, the videos of people going down these like, you know, mile high water slides and it's like, oh, he just fell off the water slide. That looks just like you would think it would look. If you ever fall off of a water slide.

[Tim Pool]

It's becoming indistinguishable now. I saw a video of a motorcycle crash. It was, it was to me obvious that it was AI but the comments, they thought it was surveillance footage like ring camera on a motorcycle drive's buying crashes into a car. And I'm like, oh, that's clearly AI but all the comments were like, whoa, man, he was speeding. Like all crazy. And they're posting memes and gifs and all that stuff.

[Libby Emmons]

I think the younger generations are going to be able to discern it far better.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think so.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't think so?

[Tim Pool]

Nope. We were talking about with Jack Posobic when we watched the teenage Teenage Ninja Turtles at wwe and it looks real. The issue is we know it's not because we lived 1993.

[Libby Emmons]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Well, some of us did. And young people who grow up like, like what is called Jen Bravo, which are, are being born now after.

[Libby Emmons]

That's the life after Al Alpha. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They are going to grow up where they see Macho Man, Randy Savage snap into a Slim Jim and all that stuff. Then they're going to see the Ninja Turtles and they're gonna go, I don't know. They're both the same thing. To me they look identical. There will be no history. There will be no legacy. It'll be chaos.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, it could be chaos, but what about. I mean, I guess I just keep sort of holding out hope that people are going to want to know things.

[Tim Pool]

They will, but the problem is there will be someone who is evil and will lie.

[Libby Emmons]

It'll be like Futurama when they figure the Honeymooners went to the moon.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

One of these days, Edna, bang, zoom, straight to the moon. He's like, what? And Leela's like, I never knew early astronauts were so fat. He wasn't an astronaut, and he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife.

[Phil That Remains]

One of these days. Quality, wholesome entertainment.

[Tim Pool]

It was funny that everyone laughed about that back in the day. Like, one of these days, I'm gonna strike you.

[Libby Emmons]

What was really what's interesting about the Honeymooners and a lot of those old shows is you look at their apartments, right?

[Tim Pool]

They had a house, didn't they?

[Libby Emmons]

No, they just had an apartment. Really? Yeah. With kids? No, they had no kids. And they had. What's his name, Ed, coming down from upstairs. Very similar to Lucy and Desi and Ethel.

[Phil That Remains]

Well, they had houses.

[Libby Emmons]

They had houses eventually, but not.

[Tim Pool]

But they slept in two separate beds.

[Libby Emmons]

At first they lived in an apartment, but they eventually.

[Tim Pool]

Remember when she kept eating all of the chocolates?

[Libby Emmons]

Yes, that's a brilliant episode. But this, if you look at their apartments, these are not fancy apartments. They're super basic.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Everyone in 2026 has far more. Well, this is expensive crap in their homes.

[Tim Pool]

One of the problems with modern society is this. You always hear these communists say things like, you know, we're the first generation of it, worse than our parents. And I was like, my dad didn't have a cell phone or a TV or a computer when he grew up. He had an empty apartment and, like, a couch. So we have all of these other requirements. Fair point. Not necessarily requirements, but to a certain degree, like, a cell phone is a requirement now to survive in the modern era. And so you.

[Phil That Remains]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

The. One of the issues is you can't just live with nothing. We used to have pay phones. You didn't have a phone in your house. You'd go outside and this is like, within our, like, lifetimes.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There are people who are, like, 60. It's like, oh, yeah, I didn't have enough fun in my first apartment. I go outside and use a payphone.

[Phil That Remains]

Within living memory.

[Tim Pool]

Within living memory. That's a way to put it. Now, young people are like, life is so bad and I can't have my own place. Which is true. But they do have a computer, a cell phone, a tv. They have Netflix. They have access to the summation of human knowledge.

[Libby Emmons]

My first apartment, we didn't have a telephone in it and we didn't get a phone. There was a payphone out front.

[Tim Pool]

Well, when I first had Internet, like

[Libby Emmons]

called payphone, called the payphone and then never answer because we didn't actually want to talk to people.

[Tim Pool]

So when I was a kid, I would be trying to download a song off of the Internet and you'd get a telemarketer phone call in the middle of it, ruin it, kicking you off the Internet, totally killing. And then it would just. It would shut off your download and you'd have to restart. And it took like four hours to download one MP3. And I was constantly going, why can't you put a placeholder on the download? I don't understand. Then we, we got Limewire and kaza in the 2000s, which could.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

If the Internet went out, it would pause and then it could start back up.

[Phil That Remains]

It was magic.

[Tim Pool]

And you weren't allowed to download anyway. But we did.

[Libby Emmons]

I remember that too. We had like whole floppy disks.

[Tim Pool]

My favorite thing about like Limewire and Kazaa was some. Some small no name band would upload one of their songs as like a Metallica song. It would be like, you know, Enter Sandman. And then you'd go to download it and you get some weird band you never heard of. And I'm just thinking to myself, when I was like, I don't know how, I was like 14, I was like, I have no idea who this band is. I will never find out who this band is. Do they think this strategy will work for them? Delete.

[Libby Emmons]

I remember downloading this one remix of Bjork and Tawetay Hyper Ballad, which they did, but it was a remix of that and it was so good and I can't find it anywhere. And I never saved it somehow, even though I had it for years and now it's gone forever and I've looked it up, it doesn't. I can't find it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, got a lot of demos.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, demos.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah,

[Libby Emmons]

yeah.

[Phil That Remains]

I. When we were putting out our second record, I put three of the songs on the Internet for people to download free. My label got so pissed off. That was still when, you know, people would buy records. Well, a little bit.

[Tim Pool]

And I was browsing the CD section at Best Buy. Browsing the CD section. Best Buy?

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, back in the day, man.

[Tim Pool]

Do malls still exist?

[Phil That Remains]

They do.

[Tim Pool]

Are they a thing? I'm kidding, by the way. But man, they're so barren these days.

[Libby Emmons]

And there's there's not a, like, decent record store, man.

[Tim Pool]

You know, we got to do. We got to do my mall store show, like, Seamus and I had been talking about for a while. The idea was we wanted to open a store in a mall that was random and just changed all the time. My. My brother Chris's idea was that we open a gasoline store.

[Libby Emmons]

Nice.

[Tim Pool]

And there's a bunch of shelves with gas cans full of gasoline. And we sell gas by the gallon, and it's slightly cheaper than a gas station. And then when someone says, like, how do you sell gas cheaper than a gas station? The response is, oh, we don't pay taxes. So just like, weird stores that make no sense. Seamus's idea was a store that just says Asians. And in the. In the store in the mall, it's a bunch of Asian people standing in random spots, looking in random directions. And then when someone walks in and says, like, excuse me, what is this? The Asian person goes, oh, I don't work here. So it's just, like, weird things. We wanted. We wanted to do a show, like a reality show kind of thing with

[Phil That Remains]

it all, like, Twilight Zone stores. Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, a Laundromat where when you walk in, there's, like, one big fat Italian guy standing at the counter, and none of the machines are plugged in our work. And then when. And then when you come in and you're like, I need to do my laundry, he panics, and he's like, oh, yeah, one second. And then he goes through a swinging door. And then when he does, you see the door swing open. There's a bunch of Italian guys shoveling money into. Into duffel bags. And they look. And clearly, you know, not a laundromat. Things like that. We got that one. That idea because I've actually been to a front business before. There was a restaurant where I lived in Jersey, and it had, like, the sandwich board outside, but we never saw anybody go in or out. And so one day, my brother and I were like, well, let's go. Like, we've eaten at a bunch of the restaurants. Let's go to this one. And we walk there, and it's like 4pm and we open the door and walk in and the lights are all off, and there's, like, three Italian dudes behind the counter just sitting there. And there's no servers. Nothing's going on. And we're like, this is like the Fratelli's from Goonies. And then no joke. And then I walk in and they're like. They were like, hey. And I was like, hey, how's it going? I was like, are you guys doing food? They're like, oh, no, sorry, not today. Kitchen is closed today.

[Libby Emmons]

And then I was like, oh, kitchen clothes today.

[Tim Pool]

And then he was like. And then I was like, okay, can I get something to drink? And they were like, yeah, what do you want? And I was like, do you have a Coke? And. And then one guy goes, yeah, one second. Walks in the back. I swear to God. He walked out the back door and walked to a gas station and came back and he handed me a can of Coke. And he was like, a dollar fifty. And then I was like, all right, we're gonna go. And I'm like, this is not a real business. Because they constantly would have, like, we're open, and nobody would ever go in. I wonder if everyone just kind of knew.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah, don't go in there.

[Tim Pool]

They just need a place where they can write things off.

[Jane Zirkel]

That's the New Jersey Daycare Center.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Well, at least I'm assuming they weren't scamming the government. Well, just trying to clean some drug money or something.

[Phil That Remains]

They were scamming the government, but it was a different kind of scam.

[Tim Pool]

Sure, sure. But I just mean, like, I respect the criminal more if it's just ill gotten gains and not stealing my money. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you steal from me, we got a problem. You are selling otherwise less than legal goods. I'm not a fan, but you're not stealing from me. You know what I mean?

[Phil That Remains]

Yep. You made your money.

[Tim Pool]

Undocumented marketplace, we call it.

[Phil That Remains]

Undocumented.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, an undocumented marketplace.

[Phil That Remains]

This doesn't have paperwork.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil That Remains]

You know, let's.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this last. Let's get this last one, and this one's. My friends, the UK has been conquered. King Charles won't give an address for Easter, but he'll give one for an Islamic holiday.

[Phil That Remains]

That's. That's great. Yeah, that's great. Salamu alaikum.

[Tim Pool]

Ramadan Mubarak.

[Phil That Remains]

Ladies and gentlemen, as Muslims across the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth begin preparations to celebrate Eid after fasting for the holy month of Ramadan, I just wanted to convey my heartfelt best wishes.

[Tim Pool]

We got it. We don't need to hear it. I think he's converted. I think. I think. I think he's Muslim.

[Phil That Remains]

That might actually be.

[Libby Emmons]

Why don't we see Camila in Hijab, you know, or even better with a burka. She's like the one. Because they're allowed to lie, see her face. It's okay.

[Tim Pool]

They're allowed to lie.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

They're just allowed to make up. Excuse me.

[Tim Pool]

Well, yes, I think it does seem like he's converted. And if he was speaking with Muslims, they would say, to prevent chaos and riots, you know, don't overplay your hand.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah. And I mean, if they did convert, then he certainly would be treading on thin ice. If he were to give an Easter.

[Libby Emmons]

Which he declined to give the Easter message, Which he did.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah. That's.

[Libby Emmons]

Which I find sort of insane, you know, that he's not giving an Easter message.

[Jane Zirkel]

I mean, it's sort of symbolic of what's happened in his country.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, his country is a disaster.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, it's called, let's see, Takia.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's the Islamic doctrinal concept that permits a Muslim to conceal or deny their faith when facing danger, persecution, or threat of death or harm.

[Libby Emmons]

There's also the practice in Islam where if you. If you convert, you can be part of the, you know, pillaging and raping and everything.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, you can?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. It's like, if you convert, then you're allowed to, like, go on conquest. You, like, get some share of the booty.

[Tim Pool]

Share of the booty?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Figurative and literal booty, I'm sure.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, you know, what with the way.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that must be enticing to a lot of young guys.

[Libby Emmons]

I guess so. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or kings.

[Libby Emmons]

I think it's pretty enticing to Charles here, who is seeking to appease all of the Muslims in his nation.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know that he's seeking to appease them. I think he's one of them inverted. Yeah. Could he be under duress?

[Jane Zirkel]

No, he's assimilating to those who refuse to.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the Commonwealth countries are all very welcoming to Islam.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, they really are.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

But I mean, so is our country.

[Tim Pool]

You know, Trump not so much.

[Libby Emmons]

Trump's not so much. But I mean, look at, like, we're. We're losing all of these fights. You know, you have all of the judges.

[Jane Zirkel]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, you have all of the judges saying, like, actually, you can't revoke the temporary protected status. Actually, you can't send these illegal immigrants back. Actually, you can't do anything about any of these things. It's like, it doesn't matter what the American people want. The judiciary is so captured that they're, you know, if a nation. Anything to change.

[Tim Pool]

If a nation's structure is as such that it will be destroyed by its enemies, then it will be destroyed.

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Right. The United States does not has the, have the statutory capability to protect itself. That's a fact. The fact that the Supreme Court is set to rule against in favor of keeping birthright citizenship despite the fact that every argument makes sense. I'll put it very, very simply for everybody. There's no argument against what I'm about to say. Wong Kim Mark says domiciled. Fair point. Illegal immigrants have no allegiance to us. They've broken our laws and come in here in violation. You are not allegiant to a power you seek to offend. That's, that's not allegiance, that's threat of, of action against. So the Supreme Court should just say if you're a legal, temporary or permanent resident, that includes tourism through a visa, your child will be a citizen. If you enter illegally, you clearly have no allegiance. No, are not domiciled and subject to removal. Your kids will not be. The fact that John Roberts statement is, it may be a new time, but it's the same constitution. He's basically saying, f the United States and your country, we will not protect it.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and also Kavanaugh at the end saying to the ACLU's attorney, do you want a big win or do you want a little win? And she was like, I'll take any win. But it seems pretty clear listening to the arguments yesterday, that they did not believe that the Solicitor General had any real case to make.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, which is wrong.

[Libby Emmons]

Which I think is wrong. Which I think is wrong too. Because the other thing too is it's not like they can't overturn precedent. You know, like Wong Kim Ark was terribly decided from what it looks like.

[Tim Pool]

No, I, I have, no, I have no problem. This. The Solicitor General didn't even argue that it should be overturned. I think his point is actually pretty simple. The Supreme Court never ruled on the issue of fast travel, birthright, fast travel, birth tourism. And so all we need now is a simple precedent setting opinion from this court as it pertains to a new issue relevant to the facts. Individuals are not domiciled here, have no allegiance here, and so be it. If you think birth tourism should be allowed, then by all means say that. But you can still at least say if you enter the country illegally, you are not granted or afforded protections.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, you also, I think there should be some provision to outlaw birther tourism. There's like 1.5 million allegedly American babies being raised in China by Chinese parents. And we already know that for people from China to come study in the US that has to be approved by the ccp. Like, that's not just. So any of these people coming back, they are not allegiant to the United States. They are allegiant to the ccp.

[Tim Pool]

Might doesn't make. Right. That's a moral point. It just makes those who are willing to exert force and authority will succeed, and those who are not will be destroyed.

[Libby Emmons]

And the entire. The goodwill of the United States is being entirely abused. And our judicial system, from the lowest court on up, you know, from the lowest court that releases criminals so that they can go murder women at Fairfax bus stops, all the way up to the Supreme Court, are completely captured by this idea that they, like you were saying, they can't do anything. They won't do anything to.

[Tim Pool]

They won't. So. So the point is this. The Supreme Court, the conservatives, they absolutely have the power to say, yeah, okay, no, like, obviously, this is an exploitation of the 14th Amendment. I mean, I think it's a long shot that they do, but it is absurd to me that if anything, if I was on the court, if there's an honorable court, and they felt this was a task for Congress, then the ruling should be, trump's executive order shall stand until Congress intervenes, as this is their role to set these standards. Instead, it seems like they're going to be like, yeah, we know China's gutting and destroying this country, but, yeah, who cares? It's like, well, okay, then I guess there won't be a United States.

[Phil That Remains]

I mean, I. Look, I. I agree with all of the points being made, but I do think that. That what they're saying is get Congress to pass a law.

[Tim Pool]

But here's the point.

[Libby Emmons]

Congress doesn't do anything.

[Tim Pool]

Congress. Congress is not going to pass a law pertaining to a constitutional amendment. So one of two things has to happen. Clarity needs to be provided as to the interpretation of the amendment by the Supreme Court as it pertains to illegal immigration and birther tourism, or Congress would have to repeal or replace the Fourth Amendment, which is functionally impossible. So any good steward would simply say it is the interpretation of this court that the Fourth Amendment does not protect birther tourism nor illegal immigrants having anchor babies.

[Phil That Remains]

I mean, I agree with you, but I don't think that. I think that what they're. The point that they're making is this is not for the Supreme Court to do.

[Tim Pool]

My point is, is. Is not about. Their statement, is that if they. Again, if they believe Congress needs to pass a law that is that. That clarifies birth tourism or whatever, they are still standing on a Question of precedent they can answer and abdicating their responsibility if they are not being stewards. So the role of the Court is to interpret the law, which includes the amendments. They have a question for them pending interpretation. If they refuse to answer that interpretation, they are derelict in their of their duties.

[Phil That Remains]

Well, I think that, I think the, the answer that they're giving, again, this isn't something that, that I agree with,

[Tim Pool]

but I think I understand what you're going to say. The point is, I get it. They are cowards and they are not doing their jobs because they're cowards. There is no legitimate argument that they are making. The claim that Congress must repeal the 14th amendment is psychotic. The 14th amendment does clearly does not cover birth tourism and anchor babies. The interpretation of the amendment is a duty of the Supreme Court, not Congress.

[Phil That Remains]

Well, I mean the argument that they're going to make is we are taking the literal understanding of the 14th amendment.

[Tim Pool]

I understand this point you've made three times now does not change that. The question of the interpretation of codified law existing passed by Congress and the fourth Amendment is a duty of the courts and not Congress. And again, to say that they will argue otherwise, I agree. And they are lying because they are cowards. The reason why they didn't pick up the original jurisdiction, Texas v. Pennsylvania, is not because it wasn't in their jurisdiction. It was. It's because they're cowards.

[Phil That Remains]

Well, that I agree with.

[Tim Pool]

They are weak, pathetic people. Save Thomas and Alito. The Supreme Court is composed of those who seek to destroy this country and spineless loser cowards who will not do their jobs. Thomas and Alito said we are obligated to answer the question in Texas v. Pennsylvania as original jurisdiction only goes to Supreme Court. That is state. Suing state is is a task of the Supreme Court. And five of the justices said no for no reason. And we know what that reason is. We are terrified. We don't want to die and we are cowards. They will not do their jobs. What was asked by the Solicitor General is quite Simply, in the 19th century, the question of birth or tourism didn't exist. To which John Roberts agreed and then responded, it may be a new time, but the same Constitution. Indeed a question is being asked, as per the interpretation of the 14th amendment, does this apply to birth tourism and anchor babies? And if they defer and say leave it to Congress? Well, no. We're asking you to interpret the intent based on the writings of the Framers, what this was meant to be and they could overturn. Wong Kim Ark. They could apply the domicile standard, which would omit a visa, temporary visas, like tourism, and it would omit illegal aliens. And if they refuse to do that, they're abdicating their responsibilities because they're spineless cowards.

[Phil That Remains]

All right, that's. That's fair enough.

[Tim Pool]

Which is what it seems like they're going to do. So again, if Trump has tried. Trump has tried as the executive. I will sign an executive order that we will not, as an executive branch, grant citizenship, as is, from their branch to illegal immigrants. And the Democrats said, we're going to stop you from doing that. That's weird. Why should illegal immigrants be allowed to come in and have babies here who get citizenship? Why should the CCP be. It makes literally no sense.

[Libby Emmons]

It's insane.

[Tim Pool]

It is an attack on this country, its borders, and its people. And any sane person who cared about this country would simply say no.

[Libby Emmons]

And most of the birther tourism, it looks like, is Russia and China. Like, these nations are supposedly our adversaries.

[Jane Zirkel]

It's a national security threat. It's 100% national security threat. And the Supreme Court, most of them at least don't care. And it's such a slap in the face, too, because, I mean, these justices know that they have the entire MAGA base behind them on this issue, and yet they are still cowarding on this.

[Tim Pool]

Look at the Supreme Court precedent where they overturned private, previous Supreme Court precedent. And this Supreme Court is one of the most feckless and pathetic. But I get it. Brett Kavanaugh is terrified because someone tried to murder him and his family.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Then you should resign right now, Kavanaugh. Give Trump an opportunity to appoint someone else. You are. You. You know, what they did to Kavanaugh for confirmation was insane. And he's been. He's been. Okay. So I don't want to rag on him, but, Amy, Coney Barrett has been bad.

[Libby Emmons]

She's been a disaster. Yeah. I mean, she was put there to overturn Roe. She did that. And everything else has been, John Roberts should.

[Tim Pool]

Should resign. Coney Barrett should resign, and Trump should appoint some actual constitutionalists who want to go in and say, we will answer these questions, threats be damned. Like Thomas and Alito do.

[Libby Emmons]

It's not like the Congress would do their job. And.

[Jane Zirkel]

And it's not like most of them would have us.

[Tim Pool]

That's true. And then you're. And then you're losing half the victories you might get.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Even if they are spineless.

[Libby Emmons]

Because at this point, let's say that did happen. The Senate would wait until after midterms, I think soon won't do anything.

[Tim Pool]

Like, this is the. This is the worst, best.

[Libby Emmons]

The power, right? He. Thune has the power. Like he could overturn this filibuster thing and get so much pushed through. He could get everything through. But he's afraid that the Democrats are going to do exactly the thing he refuses to do, and they're going to do it anyway.

[Tim Pool]

There's. There's unfortunately no answer. Congress is immobile. The president is constrained by hundreds of judges on vacation. But let me say this. There is some. I'll give you some Hopium. There was a very interesting article published by the New York Times where they said, Trump has already won. He will lose birthright citizenship. But he already won. And that is the initial ruling. Ending universal injunctions has basically given Trump carte blanche to do anything he wants, which is very interesting. And this seems to be a break in the system. An exploit, maybe. Maybe exploit isn't the right word, but it works like this. Universal injunctions should have never existed. The idea that, that a lower court, federal judge can issue a nationwide injunction makes no sense. So the Supreme Court ruled you can't. The issue was that Donald Trump, I think it was pertaining to transgender military office or something like this. There were two that sued or two or three.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And then Trump said that they won. Trump then got an. Got an appellate court to block that injunction. But then another court in a different jurisdiction issued an identical ruling, and they said, hold on there a minute. How do we have two different federal judges doing the same ruling and then a higher court only putting a stop on one of those injunctions while another injunction exists? This can't make sense. So the Supreme Court said yes, a federal court can only apply relief, can grant relief to those who have standing and sued themselves. This will require a special class for any broad categories, which means if Trump says by executive order he is barring citizenship from anybody who is is here based on birth tourism, they will sue and Trump won't fight it. And he'll say, you know what? You win. Those two babies can have citizenship. That's it. I'm not going to appeal it. You know why? Because now you've got to sue on behalf of literally every single person who comes here as an anchor baby in order to grant them relief.

[Libby Emmons]

That's what ACLU is so mad about in terms of suing on behalf of illegal immigrants being deported.

[Tim Pool]

They are angry because if the Trump administration does not appeal, they have no opportunity to go to the Supreme Court. To get a nationwide relief for all in that category, they would have to form a class of individuals that are anchor babies or birth tourism babies. And so if, if Trump decides, okay, those two individuals won and I won't appeal, there will be no higher court. There will be no precedent set by any higher court nationwide. So basically, Trump can keep issuing executive orders every single time, tweaking them a little bit, and they will have to keep resuing. So these two individuals who get relief as birth, birth tourism babies, Trump can issue a new executive order that encompasses them, but it's a different order and not to sue again. And it'll keep happening like Cuomo did with free speech when he shut down churches. So the court said, you have to reopen. He says, okay, and then issued a new executive order shutting down churches again. He can just keep doing it.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, and that was a crazy case too, because what was it like, a Jewish leader and a Catholic leader brought that case to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court said, you know, for an emergency ruling to open the churches. And the Supreme Court was like, oh, it's moot because they're open now. And they were like, no, no, it's still not moot. Still not moot. You know, that was a crazy ruling. That was so infuriating. I was so angry. Just as a, just living in Brooklyn, as a Catholic person. I was just so mad that the Catholic Church complied. I was like, what are you doing? You're seriously denying the Eucharist to everybody because of Cuomo? Like, how, how does the Catholic Church have no teeth? That was infuriating, too.

[Tim Pool]

We're going to go to Rumble Rants and Super Chats. Don't forget that uncensored portion of the show is coming up at [e-mail] timcast IRL. But for now, let's grab your comments. We got this from Dark Pine says Tim uses to buy a Cantina chicken taco at Taco Bell. Also good ridden spondy. Indeed. Yesterday we had. Or was it two days ago? We had a great deal of the Cantina chicken taco. It's the best thing Taco Bell has. It's an actual corn tortilla with. It's better chicken and it's got cheese melted to is delicious. Taco Bell's great.

[Phil That Remains]

I love Taco Bell.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know what it's. What the food is made of. I'd assume some kind of cardboard.

[Phil That Remains]

Not even food.

[Tim Pool]

It tastes great.

[Libby Emmons]

Have to know just, just enjoy. We're Americans. You just eat it.

[Phil That Remains]

Just trust Them.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Blave Kaiser says, I actually think the machine state wants low voter turn it again. No more politics is pop culture. I agree. That's another component of this. No more politics is pop culture. We want people watching sports again. And you know what? I almost don't disagree. Like I was saying this before when I was a kid, I was like, I wish people cared about politics then they did. And I was like, that was a mistake. There are way too many dumb people. Only those who care about politics should be involved in politics. Big Lig says Phil is right. The Zoomer Waffen are ascendant. No Compromise, only victory. P.S. libby and I are from the same town.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh my goodness. Hannover, Massachusetts.

[Tim Pool]

Well, well, well.

[Libby Emmons]

How could that be?

[Tim Pool]

507 says the only time I've ever seen our government come together and agree on anything was when APAC had them ban TikTok. There's no unseeing that will affect Zoomers forever. There is an unseeing that most people don't care and most people are driven by what makes them popular. So if TikTok starts promoting non political content, Zoomers are going to completely forget whatever. If. If Tik Tok went in the algorithm today and said, we're going to make it so that only videos pertaining to Cast Brew Coffee will be seen, you'd have literally every Zoomer drinking Casper and claiming how great it was. There'd be some dissenters, of course, but they wouldn't matter because most of them are just going to fall in line.

[Phil That Remains]

It's incredibly. Well, it'd be good for Cast Brew, but it, it's disheartening in general though,

[Tim Pool]

and it's not meant to target Zoomers. It's for any generation. It's just that Zoomers around Tik Tok

[Jane Zirkel]

a three second attention span.

[Tim Pool]

Robbo says Dan Bongino's podcast is kind of pro war, or at least the war in Iran. And Crowder, I think, also supports the Iran. Good point, good point. Yeah.

[Phil That Remains]

Is there their argument or is. Are they essentially just pro Trump and that's why?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, maybe. Jay Dirt Biker says best south park episode is Major Boobage where they make fun of the movie Heavy Metal and Kenny gets high on cat pee. Yeah, it's called cheesing because it's fun to do. They had a lot of good ones when Cartman eats all the skin off the chicken and then goes to the bathroom and thinks he died.

[Jane Zirkel]

I like the dead celebrity one in 2009 when everybody was like dying.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, right, right, right, right. Man invented the toilet, but he sat on it the wrong way. Like reverse. All right, let's see. Tim, you keep talking. Omega says you keep talking about straws out generations and then use the fake marketing markers. A generation is 20 to 25 years. According to straws Howe and Post Millennials, gen Z are 2008-2028 births. Straws how? Generational theory isn't about the, the accepted generations. We get there's a bunch of different interpretations of what generations are, but they're waves because people are born all the time. But you know, they, they, they were calling millennials echo boomers for a while because they were the children of boomers. But that means in between boomers and millennials, you got Gen X. So it's waves. It's, you know, the straw generational theory is, is not about necessarily just generations of people. It's about how about every 80 years you have four seasons by 20 year periods. Indeed. But point taken.

[Libby Emmons]

The weird thing about boomers and millennials, or boomers millennials and Gen X is Gen X and millennials were both children of boomers.

[Tim Pool]

Gen X, older boomers. But it's, but it's. Again, it's a wave. Meaning like half of Gen X will come from older boomers. But silent generation. And then millennials are almost entirely from, from boomers and not silent generation.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. But a ton of Gen Xers are from boomers.

[Tim Pool]

In fact, there. But it's because. Because. No, no, Maybe. Yeah, maybe older boomers.

[Phil That Remains]

My parents were boomers.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, rumors too. And my younger brothers are millennials and they have the same parents as me.

[Tim Pool]

It's waves. That's why I'm saying. Yeah, it's not just on and off.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, they have the same dad and. Or mom.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Libby Emmons]

But they were also boomers.

[Tim Pool]

So Seb says homestead property tax is not the primary revenue for most of Florida counties. Property tax is not the same as homestead property tax. Carve it out. And it's only about 9 to 15% of the average county budget. Police, fire, roads, and most school budgeted are not dependent on homestead. What's the difference though? You need to clarify what the difference was. RE3tard says was hoping you still did live shows. Happy birthday, Ian. It's my birthday too. Jesse Dalba claims to have been deplatformed and debanked. Like Fuentes, he has a give send go Jesse Dalba Biker youtuber We, we do live shows. We're planning some. We're trying to figure out how we're going to do it. But there's some stuff always in the works. Visited the Casper location and Martinsburg today and it's nearly complete. But these things always take a lot longer. And I will say surprisingly, as it took us years and we eventually gave up on trying to do it ourselves. We teamed up with Mamba collectibles and John Shout out, who is making it all work now, has gotten it nearly to the point of opening and it's just basically about to open. It's amazing inside. I'm super excited. Gonna be sandwiches. That's right. And ice cream.

[Phil That Remains]

Ice cream.

[Tim Pool]

There's a little. There's a little play area for kids.

[Libby Emmons]

Really? You're gonna have ice cream? You should serve my favorite, my house confection that I make.

[Phil That Remains]

What's that?

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Libby Emmons]

It's whipperdoodles.

[Tim Pool]

Whipper doodles.

[Libby Emmons]

Whipper doodles.

[Phil That Remains]

I don't even know what that is.

[Libby Emmons]

It's chocolate chip cookie. Chocolate chip cookies with whipped cream in the middle. Frozen. Ah, it's better than ice cream because

[Phil That Remains]

I don't believe you.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay. Ice cream is spectacular. It's lighter than ice cream. It's whipped cream. It's frozen whipped cream.

[Phil That Remains]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

I had a really great dessert.

[Libby Emmons]

Not Cool Whip.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Libby Emmons]

Homemade whipped cream.

[Phil That Remains]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

It was a thing that was. We had at a family. I think it was Christmas where it was basically like lightly sweetened whipped cream with like thin chocolate wafers. Making this very light dessert that was delicious. So you could eat like three bowls and you're only getting like 400 calories.

[Libby Emmons]

Amazing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, like massive. Just heapings of whipped cream.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, I make these big giant cookies and then I put like this much whipped cream in the middle and then I put another cookie on the bottom. Then I freeze it.

[Tim Pool]

It's like an oatmeal cream pie. But make some gluten free ones.

[Libby Emmons]

Make some gluten free ones.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Otherwise I can't eat them.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't eat. Are you like allergic or you just don't eat it?

[Tim Pool]

I was having weakness and muscle stiffness and I did a bunch of elimination. Elimination diet stuff. And then when it was gluten that was removed, all the pain went away.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay, I'll make. I'll get some gluten free flour.

[Tim Pool]

And then a few months ago, I ate a Mexican pizza from Taco Bell because I thought it was a corn tortilla. And then the next day I was having muscle stiffness and pain again and I was like, man, I was like, did I eat flour or something? I don't know. Maybe went to Taco Bell and had another Mexican pizza. And then the next day it was worse. And then I'm like, is Mexican pizza flour? And I looked up and it is. And I was like, man, elimination diet. It's true. And then like, my only theory is that like, I don't know, Asians don't eat bread. And like, maybe just bread Taco Bell should make. I love rice. I eat rice, no problem. But. But wheat bread does me no good. And we tried at first, my wife and I, she was like, maybe it's the American glycerin glyphosate or whatever. So we bought Heritage organic, you know, fresh, like stone ground. Nope, same problem. And then bought like European Bio organic ultra rare 2000. Didn't work. I eat wheat. I messed up in pain. Foggy. No good. No me gusta. Corn. No problem. Corn's great. All right, what do we got here? Latumio says hot take. Starlink was in the way of Artemis 2 launch. Elon said hit him. Navy used weird X B mystery plane and use sets as target practice. Hence the unknown explosion. I don't know. I think they can just move Starlink satellites.

[Phil That Remains]

They can, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So you know, Peter Goalk says. Hey Tim, geophysicist Stephen Burns said we're going through three three Eye Atlas's debris field and that's probably what most people are seeing. Sounds plausible. You mean probes from the spaceship are being shot down by our space force. That makes more sense.

[Phil That Remains]

Still very black pilled on space travel on space Intergalactic space.

[Tim Pool]

Asmin Gold on Tim Pool on Joe Rogan. Asmin versus Rogan on Pool. Sure. I don't think Asmund Gold travels, does he?

[Phil That Remains]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, because we, we like, we've reached out to him. He's great. We could, we could, we could talk about Warcraft and where it all went wrong.

[Phil That Remains]

He doesn't like to travel much at all, if I understand.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that dude must be swimming in cash.

[Phil That Remains]

He's probably. Yeah, he doesn't spend any money either. He lives in the same place. And his how he barely clean thing

[Tim Pool]

is true for like. Doesn't. Doesn't Bezos live in like a regular house or something?

[Phil That Remains]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

There was this post that I saw. I was really good.

[Phil That Remains]

I mean Bezos has like a super yacht.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed, doesn't he? But there was a post and it said at a certain amount of money, your standard of living won't deviate from the wealthiest people on the planet. So the real. They were like the, the thing about wealth is that bezos wakes up and he does work, but the work has a massive impact. You wake up and do work. You want to find the point where you are making enough money to. Where you have the same standard of living as any billionaire, because, again, you do at a certain amount of money, you don't need to worry about owning one of the biggest corporations on the planet. Once you reach a certain level, if you're Bezos and you keep working and you do, that's fine. But the point of it was, it is very possible to get to the point where you never have to work again.

[Phil That Remains]

And 10 million, the bank.

[Tim Pool]

And it just, it's, it's in wealth management, you know, and then you'll be generating so much interest historically that you're, what. What is 10 million going to net you. You'll, you'll probably do 300,000 a year.

[Phil That Remains]

Yep. And you can live off that and just pay for whatever your pretty crazy expenses are, you know?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Not in the bank, though. In, in, in the market.

[Phil That Remains]

Sure.

[Tim Pool]

Where you will see a historic return of about 7%. And that's why Trump's always bragging about the Dow. But, I mean, it's exponential. We're at, what, 50,000 mm around there?

[Phil That Remains]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's the past couple weeks. By next year, it's got to go up another 5k. Then by next year, it's got to go up another 5.7, then 6, then 7 and 8, then 10. In 10 years, the Dow is going to be at 178,000.

[Phil That Remains]

I mean, there's going to be.

[Tim Pool]

Corrections will continue.

[Phil That Remains]

There's going to be corrections. But, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but even it's funny if, if you didn't touch your portfolio in 2008, when it crashed, you had recovered by four years. Yeah, yeah. It's like it was going up and crashed and then it was like. So the people who panicked, they lost everything. People who just said whatever, just don't sell.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, you can't panic when the stock market goes down. You just got to hang on, otherwise you lose everything.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, indeed. All right, everybody, we're going to that uncensored portion of the show [e-mail] Tim Guest, IRL, where we will say naughty wor and make jokes that are not so family friendly. Smash the like button, share the show and all that good stuff. You can follow me on X and Instagram, Timcast. Jane, do you want to shout anything out?

[Jane Zirkel]

You can follow me at Jane Zirkel on X, Instagram and Facebook at Jane Zirkel official.

[Phil That Remains]

There you go.

[Libby Emmons]

I'M Libby Emmons. You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons and also you can check out my podcast the Pod Millennial. You can find it all the places where you get podcasts and also@thepod millennial.com

[Phil That Remains]

I am Phil that Remains on Twix. You can check out some of the things that I've been writing on patreon that is patreon.com phillipremains the band is all that remains. We're going on tour. We're going to be going out with Born of Osiris and Dead eyes. We start April 29th in Albany. We'll be going through the end of May. You can check out. You get tickets for that at all that remainsonline.com youm can check out the band's music at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime. Carter I'm Carter Banks.

[Tim Pool]

You can find me everywhere at Carter Banks and everywhere else at Carter Banks. Official Follow our label at trashsserecords and also Happy birthday to Ian Crosland, who is not here tonight because it's his birthday. He'll be back tomorrow.

[Phil That Remains]

Is that really why?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. Maybe. We will see you all [e-mail] TimCastirl in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out this week with digital coupons at Safeway and Albertsons. Get beef rib roast for $7.97 per pound member price with minimum purchase of $50 or more in a single transaction. Exclusions apply. See Store for details and Broccoli, cauliflower or Russet potatoes earn 97 cents per pound member price limit 6 pounds plus selected sizes and varieties of Lucerne Butter Cheese or Philadelphia cream cheese are $1.97 each member price. Visit safeway or albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save.