Trump Just ACCUSED Obama Of TREASON, Calls For CRIMINAL Charges w/ Breanna Morello

Summary

Timcast IRL - Episode Summary: "Trump Just ACCUSED Obama Of TREASON, Calls For CRIMINAL Charges w/ Breanna Morello"

Release Date: July 23, 2025

Hosts/Guests:

• Tim Pool (Host)
• Brianna Morello (Independent Journalist, Post Millennial)
• Libby Ammons (Post Millennial, Human Events)
• Phil Labonte (Lead Singer of All That Remains)

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1. Honoring Ozzy Osbourne's Legacy [00:27 - 00:51]

The episode opens with a tribute to the late Ozzy Osbourne, recognizing his monumental impact on the music industry and the metal genre. Phil Labonte shares heartfelt sentiments, stating:

"Without Ozzy Osbourne and without Ozzfest and the influence that he's had on not just All That Remains, but on the whole metal world... rest in peace, Ozzy."
— Phil Labonte [00:52]

2. Donald Trump's Accusation of Barack Obama [00:51 - 07:40]

a. Trump's Public Statement [05:19 - 06:10]

Donald Trump has publicly accused former President Barack Obama of treason, urging criminal charges against him. He alleges, without presenting concrete evidence, that Obama attempted to "rig the election."

b. Discussion Among Hosts and Guests [06:10 - 07:40]

The panel discusses the severity and unprecedented nature of Trump's accusations. Brianna Morello emphasizes the need for tangible consequences:

"There needs to be arrest. At least. That's like the bare minimum."
— Brianna Morello [09:20]

Phil Labonte adds skepticism about media portrayal:

"It's ridiculous that the way that the media is portraying this, oh, there's no evidence..."
— Phil Labonte [08:33]

c. Obama's Response and Rhetoric [07:40 - 10:34]

Barack Obama has publicly denied Trump's allegations, calling them absurd. The discussion touches on the media's framing of Trump's statements and the potential implications for political discourse.

3. House Shutdown Over Epstein Files [30:00 - 31:09]

The conversation shifts to the House of Representatives' decision to shut down for a month, allegedly to prevent the release of files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Tim Pool highlights:

"They shut down the House... reportedly because they don't want to release the Epstein files."
— Tim Pool [30:09]

Libby Ammons points out the longstanding schedule:

"They have been planning to be out since December of last year."
— Libby Ammons [30:42]

4. Pam Bondi's Action Against U.S. Attorney Alina Haba [78:52 - 81:12]

Pam Bondi has taken decisive action by firing Alina Haba, the appointed U.S. Attorney for New Jersey, after federal judges removed her from the position. This move is seen as a pushback against what the hosts describe as "administrative civil war."

Brianna Morello commends Bondi's actions:

"I just give her this win because we want someone who's gonna push back, be aggressive..."
— Brianna Morello [79:36]

Phil Labonte echoes the sentiment:

"Hopefully, we'll see more of this kind of aggressive pushback..."
— Phil Labonte [80:25]

5. Redistricting and Immigration Manipulation [13:01 - 19:46]

The panel delves into claims that Democrats are manipulating redistricting through increased illegal immigration to gain political advantage. Discussions include:

• Libby Ammons:

  "Yvette Clark was revealed on a Zoom call today saying that she wants more migrants in Brooklyn in District 9 of New York because she wants that for her redistricting..."
  — Libby Ammons [14:05]

• Phil Labonte:

  "I am a great example of why the Republicans need to stand firm on immigration..."
  — Phil Labonte [19:36]

6. DOJ's Approach to Prosecution and Political Implications [08:13 - 26:57]

The hosts and guests critique the Department of Justice's handling of indictments against Trump and Obama, suggesting a lack of genuine accountability:

• Tim Pool:

  "I think it's all fake, to be honest... I'm beginning to doubt that there is any intention in going after these people."
  — Tim Pool [10:18]

• Brianna Morello:

  "We've been playing these games... there should have been a blueprint by the DOJ..."
  — Brianna Morello [09:20]

7. Media Fragmentation and Cultural Shifts [34:29 - 54:45]

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the fragmentation of media consumption, the rise of short-form content, and its impact on societal cohesion:

• Tim Pool:

  "With the heavy shift towards shorts, Instagram stories, Reels, and TikTok, a lot of people aren't consuming fact-based information..."
  — Tim Pool [33:35]

• Libby Ammons:

  "We don't have shared culture anymore... There's no issue where some liberal journalist and some MAGA guy are gonna tweet at each other and be like, yeah, that was awesome."
  — Libby Ammons [52:14]

8. U.S. Olympic Committee's Ban on Trans Women [40:32 - 42:38]

The U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committees have instituted a policy banning trans women from competing in women's categories. The hosts discuss the implications and compare it to international practices:

• Phil Labonte:

  "You have to remove or deport illegal aliens because they are attempting to steal power from the American people."
  — Phil Labonte [19:46]

• Libby Ammons:

  "Other nations will have to comply if they want to compete in the United States."
  — Libby Ammons [41:06]

9. Stephen Colbert's Reaction to Show Cancellation [66:00 - 70:26]

The panel references Stephen Colbert's response to the cancellation of his show, highlighting the disconnect between long-form content and current media trends.

10. Constitutional Discussion on Representation [120:00 - 122:17]

A detailed debate ensues regarding the Constitution's Three-Fifths Compromise and its applicability to counting illegal immigrants for representation purposes:

• Tim Pool:

  "So, because I was saying that the Democrats would basically try and pull a three fifths compromise with illegal immigrants, I was wrong. They don't need to. It's already in the Constitution."
  — Tim Pool [121:58]

• Libby Ammons:

  "Just like... Yeah, because they aren't citizens, they're not technically under the jurisdiction of the United States."
  — Libby Ammons [120:44]

11. Conclusion and Call to Action [123:17 - End]

The episode wraps up with Tim Pool urging listeners to engage with the show on Rumble and support through subscriptions and merchandise. The hosts briefly touch on personal anecdotes and reinforce the episode's main themes of political accountability and cultural division.

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Key Takeaways:

• Political Accountability: The hosts express frustration over perceived lack of genuine action against former President Obama following Trump's accusations.
• Media Fragmentation: There's concern over the shift from long-form content to short, fragmented media, leading to a decline in shared cultural experiences.
• Immigration and Redistricting: Claims are made that illegal immigration is being used strategically for political redistricting.
• Cultural Shifts: Discussions highlight generational divides and the erosion of unified cultural touchpoints.
• Policy Changes: Significant focus on the DOJ's approach to prosecutions and the U.S. Olympic Committee's stance on trans athletes.

Notable Quotes:

• Brianna Morello [09:20]: "There needs to be arrest. At least. That's like the bare minimum."
• Phil Labonte [08:33]: "It's ridiculous that the way that the media is portraying this, oh, there's no evidence..."
• Libby Ammons [14:05]: "They want more migrants in Brooklyn in District 9 of New York because she wants that for her redistricting..."
• Tim Pool [10:18]: "I think it's all fake, to be honest... I'm beginning to doubt that there is any intention in going after these people."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the episode's key discussions on political accusations, media dynamics, policy debates, and cultural transformations, providing listeners and non-listeners alike with a clear understanding of the episode's content and perspectives.

Transcript

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NMLS 696891 Foreign Rest in Peace Ozzy Osbourne this is the biggest story probably in the world right now that Ozzy Osbourne has passed. So shout out and and rest in peace. There's not much more to add on that. He was a musician, a legend, and everybody's talking about it. And so that's the biggest story. But there is other news, at least in our political world. Donald Trump has publicly accused Barack Obama of treason while sitting in the Oval Office and called for criminal charges. It's an insane thing to say. I suppose it's more insane that we're kind of desensitized to this kind of rhetoric considering they already had Trump arrested several times on false charges. So this is just par for the course of where we're at in this country, but kind of worrying now. Barack Obama has responded, basically saying it's absurd. We'll get into all that. And then we've got a bunch of these. We got a couple really crazy stories. One, the House is shutting down for a month and reportedly it's because they don't want to release the Epstein files. So we'll get into that. And then we've got a really crazy story. Pam Bondi has already fired the replacement for Alina Haba. This is a convoluted story, but basically Alina Haba is supposed to be the U.S. attorney in New Jersey. Judges just removed her. Pam Bondi said nope and fired a replacement right away because we are in some kind of unstable political environment in this country where nothing makes sense. And the majority, the overwhelming majority of Donald Trump's appointees have not yet even been confirmed or given hearings, which is insane. I think most people don't realize what they've been doing to Trump in his first term and now in his second term and it's continuing. So of course Trump is angry about all this. We're going to get into all that. But before we do, my friends, we got a great sponsor. It is PDF. Yes, my friends, the System isn't broken, it's rigged. And if you're buried in debt, that's exactly how they want it. Big banks profit when you're desperate. Creditors win when you lose. But you don't have to play their game. PDS debt helps you take back control. They've helped hundreds of thousands break free from credit cards, loans and high interest traps. It's your money. It's your future. Time to fight for both, of course. The website is PDS debt.com Tim. They go beyond the numbers to understand your unique financial situation and craft a personalized plan designed for you. There's no minimum credit card credit score required. They're here to help you save more, pay off your debt faster, and start putting money back where it belongs in your pocket. PDS debt is A plus. Rated by the Better Business Bureau. Boasts thousands of five star reviews on Google. Holds five star ratings on trustpilot. Why? Because PDS has helped hundreds of thousands of people get out of debt. You're 30 seconds away from being debt free. Get your free assessment and find the best option for you right [e-mail] Tim. That's pds.com Tim. And you know, I just want to add in, as an aside, there was a really funny joke I heard a long time ago. It's not even a joke, actually. When you're poor, banks charge you money in fees, but when you're rich, they give you money for free. Now how does that make sense? It's not. It's not to help you guys. That's how it works, right? Also, don't forget cast brew.com yo, we've got so much coffee, too much coffee. And it's the best coffee you will ever have. We got K pods, we got a variety of different blends. We got light roast, dark roast, medium roast, you name it. We got low acidity, Ian's Grill, Graphene Dream, which sells like hotcakes, and of course, Appalachian Nights, everybody's favorite. The latest blends we put out is Josie's 1776 signature American Cream as well as the birthday blend for the 4th of July. Cast brew.com make sure you pick up your coffee if you want to support the show. And with that being said, smash the like button if you do like. Tim Cast irl Let me just say, please subscribe to the channel and share this show literally with everyone. You know, we only got to where we are because you guys share and like the show enough to watch it with your friends. And that word of mouth has allowed this show to get to where it is, and we rely on that. So for all of you guys who really do appreciate the work that we're doing, I ask you share the show right now on social media. Take that you are. Post it wherever you can. It really does help. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Brianna Morello.

[Brianna Morello]

Yes. Well, thank you guys for having me. It's an honor to be back. A lot going on the news cycle, as you know, and as an independent journalist, it's been very, very interesting to follow indeed.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's going to be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got a lot to talk about. Libby's here.

[Libby Ammons]

Hi, everybody. I'm Libby Ammons with the Post Millennial and Human Events. Glad to be here tonight.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Levante. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. And I want to take a second to send a very, very heartfelt rest in peace to Ozzy Osbourne. Without Ozzy Osbourne and without Ozzfest and the influence that he's had on not just all that Remains, but on the whole metal world. Without him, I wouldn't have, you know, this amazing career that I've had. So rest in peace, Ozzy. I'm an anti communist, my counter revolutionary, and let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

And a fan of Ozzy Osbourne.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

Here's a story from ABC News. Trump accuses Obama of treason in the Oval Office. Quote, they tried to rig the election Trump claimed without presenting evidence. You know, I just love that line because Tulsi Gabbard dropped 100 plus documents outlining their evidence. And, and Trump is just opining on that fact. So why is ABC News lying to you? That's interesting, isn't it? They say days after President Donald Trump posted an AI generated fake video showing former President Obama's arrest on his social media platform, the current president pushed conspiracy theories about Obama in the Oval Office on Tuesday, accusing him of treason without providing evidence regarding the 2016 presidential election. They tried to rig the election and they got caught. And there should have been severe consequences for that. Well, we got the clip. Let's play the tape. I didn't know that.

[Unknown]

No, I have no concern. He's very, he's a very talented person. He's very smart. I didn't know that they were going to do it. I don't really follow that too much. It's, it's sort of a witch hunt. Just a continuation of the witch hunt. The witch hunt that you should be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold. Tulsi Gabbard, what they did to this country in 2016, starting in 2016, but going up all the way, going up to 2020 and the election, they tried to rig the election, then they got caught, and there should be very severe consequences for that. You know, when we caught Hillary Clinton, I said, you know what, let's not, let's not go too far here. It's the ex wife of a president, and I, and I thought it was sort of terrible, and I let her off the hook, and I'm very happy I did. But it's time to start. After what they did to me and whether it's right or wrong, it's time to go after people. Obama's been caught directly. So people say, oh, you know, a group. It's not a group, it's Obama. His orders are on the paper. The papers are signed. The papers came right out of their office. They sent everything to be highly classified. Well, the highly classified has been released. And what they did in 2016 and in 2020 is very criminal. It's criminal at the highest level. So that's really the things you should be talking about. I know nothing about the other, but I think it's appropriate that they do go.

[Tim Pool]

May I ask you about that, Mr. President? So I don't know what the earlier context in that statement was, but he then brings up Obama and, and accuse him of treason. He continued, uh, now Obama has responded denying Trump's bizarre allegations that he was Russiagate ringleader. In a rare statement. Uh, as soon as Obama decided to speak out, I was like, he's guilty. There's no, there's no reason to comment on someone just insulting you. You know, on the Internet or in the press. They say former President Obama denied Trump's bizarre allegations that he was a Russia Gate ringleader.

[Phil Labonte]

And it's incredible that they say things like bizarre, like the DNI has actual evidence. Maybe it's not enough to make. Convince people, whatever, but sorry for the outburst. But, like, legitimately, it's ridiculous that the way that the media is portraying this, oh, there's no evidence, and blah, blah, blah. Just totally disregarding all of the stuff that the DNI has produced.

[Libby Ammons]

This is the Trump. This is the how to deal with Trump playbook. They've been playing it since2016 and they're doing it now.

[Tim Pool]

It's fascinating because as AB you guys just heard how Trump phrased it. He said, tulsi put out these documents. You should really look into that because we know what we're learning what he did. And then the way ABC News phrases it is they omit Tulsi Gabbard from it. This is how the media lies to you. Okay, Technically they're telling the truth, but they've cut out so much information, you don't know the actual contest. This is how they play up the very fine people hoax and all the other hoaxes. So I ask all of you listening right now and those of you in the room for what action? How do I, how do I say this? What is the minimum action required for you to be satisfied based on these circumstances?

[Brianna Morello]

I want a mug shot. At least. That's like the bare minimum.

[Tim Pool]

You're saying arrest?

[Brianna Morello]

Yes, there needs to be arrest. Because listen, we've. We've been playing these games for quite some time now, and unfortunately, we haven't seen much movement from the doj. I mean, we've known all of this, everything has come out from we, you know, Gabbert's team, which I'm so thankful that it has. We've all known about these things for quite some time now. And so there should have been a blueprint by the DOJ on if they have a special prosecutor going on or how they were going to go about making these arrests or who they're going to go for first, because obviously Barack Obama would be the last arrest that they'd make. They'd want some individuals who are surrounding him to turn on him quick. And so I hope they have a plan in place. I don't hear of any grand juries going on. Obviously, in D.C. you'd hear about it. But outside of D.C. i haven't heard of any grand juries going on. So I'm a little concerned that we're kind of playing catch up here. But also I can't wait for Barack Obama to try to sit there and play the presidential immunity argument here and say that he can't be prosecuted because he can be. And he's obviously been a part of the law fair before, so it'll be interesting to hear.

[Phil Labonte]

So I understand that there are going to be obviously people on X that are going to try to make that argument. Do you think that, that Barack Obama would actually try to make that argument? I do think that he's a little more sophisticated, excuse me, a little more sophisticated than the average partisan, you know, poster on X. Do you think Obama would.

[Brianna Morello]

I think if the walls are closing in, if the people around him start to turn, then yes, I think he'd have to make the argument of presidential immunity but from what I'm understanding is there's probably more evidence in regards to when he left the White House and how he kept everything kind of going still. So presidential immunity wouldn't apply for that.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's all fake, to be honest.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. What do you think is fake?

[Tim Pool]

I just. I'm done believing any of this. The posting of memes and the making of claims. I'm half kidding. I know people are taking it very, very seriously. What I'm saying is I'm beginning to doubt that there is actual, there is any intention in going after these people. And the reason I bring that up is, although we are seeing some movement from the Trump DOJ, it's what, 1% of the actual power they have and could move on. You take a look at how the Biden DOJ went after Trump's lawyers, went after Trump himself and lied and made things up. You mean to tell me that Trump's sitting there being like, I guess we'll figure out in time. They didn't wait. They literally just said, go arrest all his lawyers and make the charges up.

[Libby Ammons]

But look at how Trump behaved in his first term. Right? He came into office, he had said, lock her up about Hillary Clinton, and he was much more of a gentleman about it. He was like, I don't think that's appropriate to just start going after the wives of former presidents.

[Tim Pool]

Well, he should know.

[Libby Ammons]

So we're not gonna do that. And when we did see the Biden administration come in and start not just prosecuting Trump, former Trump officials, but, you know, those people couldn't get jobs. It was very difficult for them to, like, just lead a normal life at that point. And now we're in another administration, and we're seeing this administration go after the previous administration and perhaps the one before. And, you know, there's probably good reasons for all of. For, like, a bunch of these things, but I can't help looking at a place like Venezuela where one administration goes after the previous administration, and the entire government is just hung up and muck about all of this stuff. And I find that really discouraging that our American governmental system, that's the future, could come to a process where all it is is you elect group of people and they jail the previous people, and then the next people jail the previous people. I mean, that's literally. That's banana republic.

[Tim Pool]

Unless you win.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, but you never win. But you never win because there's always, like, four years later and somebody else is going to win.

[Tim Pool]

No, you're just talking about the Intervals by which the conflict continues. So you can take a look at Spain and was it Franco won for what, 70 plus years?

[Libby Ammons]

Sure, but I'm not looking for a leader for 70 years for this country.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not saying that. I'm saying if Donald Trump were to weed out the corruption and solve the issue of the phony Democrat controlled congressional seats, maybe you would not have to worry about corrupt individuals selling out your nation and taking power from you.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, you're exactly right. And that's what we should be looking at. Right? We should be looking at redistricting. We should be looking at redistricting in Texas and New York. You had Yvette Clark was revealed on a zoom call today saying that she wants more migrants in Brooklyn in District 9 of New York because she wants that for her redistricting, you know, the population of her district. She has more people in her district than the population of some states in this country. And she wants more people to bolster the Democratic Party. You see that in California they have 52 seats. How many of those seats are just not legitimate because they are full of illegal immigrants who should not be counted toward House representation at all? Never mind Texas, we have that going on. And you have Jasmine Crockett being like, redistricting is Texas is racist and all that kind of stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Could you.

[Libby Ammons]

That's what we should be looking at.

[Tim Pool]

Could you imagine going back 10 years and telling people that the FBI would reign, raid the home of like literally go back to 2015 and say 10 years from now it will. Or not 10 years. But you know, eight years from now the FBI will raid the home of former President Donald Trump with shoot to kill orders if met with commensurate force.

[Libby Ammons]

And that was really about.

[Tim Pool]

If you went back 10 years and told someone that.

[Libby Ammons]

No, I think it would sound unrelated.

[Tim Pool]

They'd have you 5150.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They'd say, okay, buddy, you know, let me bring you. Nobody would believe. It's scary to me. Can we go over real quick so people don't forget? Because, you know, people really do forget. They falsely accused Trump of 34 felonies. The government proved no underlying crime, which is required for these, for these charges. And told the jury, just decide for yourself if you think there was some other crime. In what reality can the US Legal system just say, we're going to lock you up and let the jury decide if you committed some crime. We're not going to actually present with the crime. You don't get to confront your accusers. You have no right to a trial in this regard. They accused him of civil fraud even though the banks said he never defrauded them. It was all in the up and up and they made money and would like to work with him again. They arrested his lawyers in multiple states. They arrested him in multiple states. They raided his home with authorization to kill. They were armed and told if they were met with resistance that threatened their safe, their lives or caused great bodily harm, they could use lethal force against the president and the patrons of Mar a Lago, which is a large club right now. Considering all that happened, what are we actually going to say? It's been six months. I know everyone says be patient, be patient. It does look like moves are being made. But the most I'm hearing from anyone in this is that maybe there will be a conspiracy against rights charge. I'm like, these people going back to 2016 tried to overthrow the government. And what I mean by that is the government is of foreign, by the people. And when the American voters vote for Donald Trump and then a cabal of unelected individuals use governmental power to undermine the will of the people, they're a subversive force betraying this nation and Trump has an obligation to do something about it with expedience. At this point, I'm kind of feeling like nothing's ever gonna happen. And you're silly if you think it will. Maybe I'll be proven wrong cuz I know it's early and I'm just getting a little frustrated. But you know, well, Tim, if you're.

[Brianna Morello]

Wrong, I think, I think he loses maga just completely loses maga because that was the entire motive for so many people who to go out and vote. They wanted to see justice. I so many Americans, thousands of Americans were persecuted by our federal government and everyone's sitting here waiting to see what's going to happen next because the lawsuits, whatever, that's just our money getting poured into these lawsuits at this point, that really doesn't have any value. But going after the people who tried to ruin the lives of so many Americans, plus go after our president. If you don't sit there and have arrests, have convictions, I think MAGA just completely loses all hope.

[Tim Pool]

I don't disagree. But let's jump to this next story. This is what we're just talking about from FOX News. Immigrants needed for redistricting purposes House Democrat admits in viral clip Quiet part out loud.

[Phil Labonte]

Unreal.

[Tim Pool]

Let's roll it quickly. What role do you believe members of the Haitian American diaspora here can and should play in assisting the effort to stabilize and rebuild Haiti. I'm from Brooklyn, New York. We have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these migrants. And, you know, when I hear colleagues talk about, you know, the doors of the inn being closed, no room in.

[Brianna Morello]

The end, I'm saying, you know, I.

[Tim Pool]

Need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes. And those members could clearly fit here. So that's Democrats admitting, or at least a Democrat admitting exactly what they've been doing with flooding the country with illegal immigrants. They're doing it so they can steal power from. From the will of the American voter. And they make the argument that. But immigrants are Americans, illegal immigrants aren't. And they bring in illegal immigrants so they get counted in the census, and Democrats get extra congressional seats and extra votes in the Electoral College, thus stealing power in this nation and subverting the will of the people. I would argue that this is a use of coercive force and conspiracy against the United States. Call it whatever you want, and these people should be criminally charged and removed from office.

[Libby Ammons]

I think Beto o' Rourke was coming out with the exact same thing. He was on TV on the weekend, State of the Union, saying that the. What was he saying? We absolutely. We have to be absolutely ruthless about getting back in power. He was saying. Talking about redistricting. Hakeem Jeffries was saying, nothing is off the table. They want to do redistricting. And, yeah, they want to do redistricting in all of these places that have already had a massive influx of illegal immigrants. And that's why the thing that Trump said, and I think Marjorie Taylor Greene was saying about how the census should count Americans, not citizens, is so important. And that's what the US House should be based on.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, that's the whole reason that I'm so hardline on immigration, on getting people that are here illegally out here. And if it takes punishing Americans that hire them and punishing Americans that give them, like, room and board or let them rent, and I'm fine with it, because it's an attempt to steal power from the American people.

[Libby Ammons]

That's exactly right.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, and. And it. So whatever we have to do to make sure that illegal aliens leave or they get deported, I'm okay with.

[Brianna Morello]

Why don't we do this as Republicans when I. And I mean, we. I'm an independent, but, like, why don't we push back on this issue and start redistricting just the same way Democrats are doing it? Listen, if they want redistricting, then let's fight them on this issue. Let's do what they're doing, exactly what they're doing, and let's just drain them financially in court, drag them through the courts, you know, make people like Marco Elias have to spend all his time on fighting off Republicans who are looking to redistrict because they do it all the time to us and we just never get to that same level that they are at.

[Tim Pool]

I was watching, I saw some news clip earlier. Mahmoud Khalil is suing the government for like $20 million. And I was like, Donald Trump was falsely arrested and charged and the Trump administration can't even deport a non citizen when they have the unilateral. When the State Department has the unilateral. Secretary of State has unilateral authority to do so. That's how weak the Trump administration is. So I'm just, this is why I'm feeling like they're not going to get anything done because they can't even deport a non citizen. Just some student. They couldn't do it. Yeah, they even brought back, they brought back Abrego Garcia.

[Brianna Morello]

That made no sense.

[Tim Pool]

You expect me to believe that Trump's going to go after these Democrats and stop them from destroying this country when he won't even deport a criminal gang member? It's, it's ludicrous.

[Brianna Morello]

Well, Salvador wasn't gonna even back, by the way.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, you do have a. Greg Abbott in Texas on Monday. Started a special legislative session to deal with redistricting. And there's a, you know, the idea is that they could pick up five seats in Texas from that.

[Tim Pool]

At this point, I just want an ill tempered, cognitively impaired, morbidly obese man to be the president. And of course, that's what Democrats were saying of Trump. But Trump's not that I'm saying, give me that right now. Just an ill tempered, impaired man. Because at least when they're going to be like, if you try and arrest us and unravel what we've done, we'll come after you.

[Phil Labonte]

What?

[Tim Pool]

We're threatening you. Duh. Bang. Just. I'm sick of the.

[Libby Ammons]

You could do a reality TV show. My Thousand Pound President. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Just sloth being like, there's cranes lifting.

[Libby Ammons]

Him in and out of the White House.

[Tim Pool]

Some kind of Frankenstein president that doesn't have the cognitive capacity to negotiate any of these things and just goes around arresting people who broke the law. Like, give me an official one dimensional top cop. There you go.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Instead, the Trump administration, I want to stress this again. I watch on tv and they're like, not only have they released this guy they were planning to deport, he's suing them for $20 million. Like, wow, Trump is one of the weakest presidents I've ever seen in my life.

[Libby Ammons]

I don't know why they didn't just deport him. I feel like they could have, they could send him back to Syria where he's got a passport. I think his passport is Syrian.

[Tim Pool]

The things that Trump has gotten done have been great. It is tremendous. USAID and the gutting of these things, it's all amazing. But seriously, like Kilmar, Abrego, Garcia. Yeah. Couldn't deport that guy.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Why is Trump acting like these random. You know, it really is. I'll put it this way. The district judges ran roughshod over the Trump administration until Trump asked the Supreme Court to help him. Why not just be like, no, you sue me about it? Like when the court said, trump, you can't do this, why didn't Trump go, okay, I'm gonna keep doing it, and you go to the Supreme Court and see what they say. Instead, Trump went, ah, rats, I guess we can't do it. Let me go ask the Supreme Court. I'm sick of this. Go on the offensive. It's, it's just, it's, it's, it's boring watching nothing happen. You know what is happening? Policy stuff. It's good. I'm happy about it. What's not happening? Accountability stuff.

[Brianna Morello]

And the policy stuff isn't even long term. It's short term things. It's a lot of executive orders. And unfortunately, Speaker Mike Johnson has failed massively at doing what his job is. And again, they keep losing their majority in the House. And I just have to say it's probably intentional, especially when they're walking away now and going on August recess. But again, like you said, I think the American people have lost confidence in a lot of this and I hope we could fix it quick. But again, the Garcia thing really had me boggled.

[Phil Labonte]

It makes you miss Black pilling everybody here, huh?

[Brianna Morello]

Who would have known? I know you had something more.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, the fact of the matter is the, like, I understand why people are apprehensive about whether or not things are going to get done because the Republicans are have a history of not following through and not delivering. But there is the fact that, you know, both Comey and Brennan are under investigation now. So even if that's a baby step, that's a baby step that. Honestly, you know, I don't think that any other Republic Republican would have done.

[Brianna Morello]

And just keep in mind, though, the last DOJ, Merrick Garland, had about 400 arrests of J6ers at this time in their administration. So, like, they were way more aggressive. That's, I think that's, that's the angle that Trump supporters are looking at.

[Phil Labonte]

I would love to, I would love to see a far more aggressive doj. Absolutely. But the fact of the matter is, like, I don't know that with this referral from Diana, from the dni, and with the fact that Comey and Brennan have both, both have investigations going on, I don't think that it's time for black pills. Maybe you can say, hey, we need more, we need faster, we need a more aggressive. But I don't think that it's, it's a situation where we should say, oh, they're definitely not doing anything. Well, they're clearly doing stuff. The DNI is doing stuff. Trump said that there's more stuff coming just tonight.

[Brianna Morello]

So, yeah, I think also the credibility issue, too. I think so many people want to, if you Remember back in 2016, the president's first term, there was all, indictments are coming. Indictments are coming, and they never came. And those are all the talking heads on Fox News promising people that, hey.

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[Brianna Morello]

So I think the rest of us on the independent side don't want to promise the American people that indictments are coming, because the reality is we don't see anything. I mean, I'm asking around. I'm not all, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. But I'm like, it's, you don't want to black pill completely. Because I hate that so much. And I want to be optimistic. I started so optimistic. But I also don't want, I'm not.

[Phil Labonte]

Even saying, I'm not even saying we should be optimistic. But the idea that, oh, they're not doing anything, this, nothing's going to happen. Nothing's happening. Well, I mean, look, it's likely that there are things going on. Whether or not they'll be successful, whether or not there'll be arrests, I can't say. And I think that it's probably likely that there won't be just because of the ability for, for lawyers to run interference and stuff like that. But to say that they're not doing anything, I don't think that that's actually accurate. So if, at the very least, if we're going to actually be honest about the situation, I mean, there are things going on because they've got an investigation into two of the most likely culprits and they have the criminal referral from the dni. So that's just my take.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Criminal referral for Obama.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't, well, no, I'm talking about the deep. Well, she, they don't have a criminal referral. They had, they, they have the, the information sent over to the doj and it's, we'll see what they actually do. Yeah, but, yeah, it's, it's like I said, it's. I understand everyone that's going to be skeptical and I understand that people are going to say, oh, blah, blah, blah. But if we're going to be accurate, we can't say that.

[Tim Pool]

I'd be, I'd be, I'd be reckless and, you know, crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

I think that I would see, I.

[Tim Pool]

Would approach the DOJ and my, my priorities with reckless abandon, as it were. It's taking a very, very long time. The messaging is convoluted and makes no sense. The Epstein filed debacle was pathetic. We're winning, we're winning on policy issues that are going to be reversed if Trump loses and the Democrats steal power again, which this lady is talking about doing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And they're not doing anything about it, so. Maybe they are, maybe they are. I'm just frustrated because it's, it's, it's, it's seeming like they're just on, on, on the issue of accountability. They are not winning.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. I mean, just, and just to kind of add to that, President Trump, I believe, is at 150 executive orders are well over 100. And when I spoke with the Speaker's office about how many of those executive orders they have ready to hit the floor at the time, it was, this was just maybe four or five weeks ago, it was just a little over a dozen. So I think that's pretty disgusting in itself that we are sitting here and allowing the House to not do its job. I don't understand, as we headed to midterms too, because the polls aren't really looking too favorable for Republicans, how people like the speaker can sit there and just allow all of this to happen because the people are going to want something to be Motivated. About to go out and vote for Republicans. I just don't think that they have that right now.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, you also. The Democrats don't have very good polling right now either. And the House has only passed two laws. Right. The Lake and Riley act and the big beautiful bill.

[Brianna Morello]

Pretty slow.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. They haven't done anything.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. Ross Mulson actually just did a poll. Let me go look that one up real quick.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, The Democrats aren't doing well either. But I do think that the Republicans are destroying the Democrats because they keep any money. No, they don't. Well, they're spending a lot of money.

[Phil Labonte]

They're. The fundraising. I just saw a tweet about the fundraising that the Republicans have done. Compared to the Democrats, the Democrats. I don't remember exactly what it was, but the Democrats have something like 8 million, and the have, like, twice as much.

[Tim Pool]

Republicans have 85 and Democrats have 15.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. The big reason for that, though, is that the Democrats have no leadership. They need to figure out who's in charge of their party.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, they need to figure out what their party stands for.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, their party stands for Zoran Manbani. They should just make him be the head of that.

[Tim Pool]

They don't, though. I was talking to this reporter from Axios today. He's working on a story about all this stuff, and I was pointing out that, you know, there's a real opportunity for Democrats to launch their reformation right now and target the people angry with Trump over Epstein, but they can't, because they are race and gender obsessed and they're terrified of that base. I don't know if you guys saw that clip of Rahm Emanuel. He was asked by Megyn Kelly, can a man become a woman? And he had pause. He was like, no. And then she said, wow, thank you for saying that. And he says, well, I don't. She says, a lot of people won't. He goes, they don't want to enter witness protection.

[Libby Ammons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Rahm Emanuel basically said the far left is so dangerous and extreme, they have to pretend that men can transform into women, otherwise they will die. Yeah, that's. That's the state of the Democratic Party. There's. There's no way the Democrats are gonna be able to reform. And so my view is there's gonna be a lot of angry Trump voters who are going to keep voting Republican because there's no alternative.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. And you did have Media Matters coming out saying, Rahm Emanuel rejects trans identities and appearance with Megyn Kelly and which. What's funny is the URL is Rahm Emanuel Denies existence Trans, which.

[Tim Pool]

There's another big story. The Olympics has officially banned trans women.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But we'll get to that in a second. We'll jump to this story right now from cnn. Johnson shuts the door on House votes before September on releasing Epstein files. Now, I was, I found this hard to believe that the actual reason they shut down the House for a month was over Epstein. But literally every outlet is reporting this and CNN's even saying, Speaker Mike Johnson said. Speaker Mike Johnson on Monday said he does not plan to allow votes on any measure related to the Epstein case in the House's final week in Washington before a weeks long recess. Weeks long until September, what, second or something.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. So I mean, this is a calendar that they've had in place since December of last year and it has the senate going through August 1st, but it has the house out July 24th and that's been in place since December 9th, 2024. So it's not like they just decided. What they did do is they did. They did not decide to actually stick around and get their jobs done and pull some overtime like the rest of us do all the time.

[Tim Pool]

Or I mean, they have a few more days to get through some agenda items. And the argument they're abandoning even some immigration bills they want to get passed.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And of course, the Main street, the corporate press is arguing that it's because they don't want to have to vote on the Epstein files because Massie and Ro Khanna plan to force the issue past leadership with. I forgot what it's called, but 218 votes in the House will get them to the floor.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, but they're out on Thursday and they've been planning to be out on Thursday for like seven months.

[Tim Pool]

I just. You know what, man? Congress is the best job ever. You barely work. You pretend to work. It just. That's the way to do it. Especially with the Internet these days. You just complain online and then you don't actually do anything. And then you go on a month long vacation in summer.

[Brianna Morello]

You spend other people's money.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, you definitely do that. Did you hear George Santos on Tucker Carlson? I listened to a bunch of that interview because George Santos is surprisingly engaging. He basically just said what you said. He said, Congress, they don't do anything. It's basically like exaggerated high school. It's just all politics and people banging in the storage closet.

[Brianna Morello]

That's high school.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, basically.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting, right, because you would assume that Santos would be up for a pardon.

[Phil Labonte]

Santos is a Great example of why the republic of Republicans not doing this stuff.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, they shouldn't have voted him out. That was the stupidest idiotic thing ever.

[Brianna Morello]

Johnson absolutely supported it though. That's the good thing about Speaker Johnson is he was very much against all of that. But it was his own rhino New Yorkers who went for it.

[Libby Ammons]

But it was, but he wasn't against it enough. He went around telling people to vote their conscience and that's, that's total trash telling people to vote their conscience. What he should have done is said listen, we've got this guy, he's a Republican. You might not like everything he's done with his own campaign finance, but look at half the Democrats who do the exact same stupid thing. Yeah, just keep him in the House. Let's, let's wit like why can't they just try winning?

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. And I hear that Speaker Johnson's the one shutting down the potential argument for a pardon for Santos thinking that it's going to affect of Republicans in the midterms. And that's the argument.

[Libby Ammons]

He's, I think. Yeah. So he's Republicans. His same trash.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, they are.

[Tim Pool]

They're so concerned with the opinion of the New York Times less so about their own constituents. Yeah, yeah. You know what? I do think the media trends are going to lead to Democrat control once again though just with like media is shifting towards shorts which is going to eliminate the long form content and this allows things like the very fine people hoax to become the dominant message and there's no real way to counter it to count.

[Libby Ammons]

So I like the don't say gay bill.

[Tim Pool]

Right. So the issue is when they lie to debunk the lie, you need to break down what the bill does to prove it and it takes a long time. So when they claim Donald Trump called Nazis very fine people, you'd have to show the full context and explain what Trump was talking about to break that lie. With the, with the heavy shift towards shorts, Instagram stories, Reels and TikTok, a lot of people aren't consuming fact based information and they're going to just be glued to their phones, swiping, having no idea what's really going on in this country. And maybe all they're actually trying to do in the uni party is just weather the storm in their mind. Big tech will solve this problem. You will have one generation between millennials and Gen X, maybe one small element that is going to be subversive and attuned to the facts. You get past this, you'll get a bunch of zombies again, who will do whatever you say.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, the. Yeah, I. I got nothing.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I think it's going to be very interesting. I hope it's not shorts the future of this country because I watch some of those quick videos and it's not very informative. But again, that's what everyone's loving these days. And the algorithm promotes it when it's shorter than two minutes.

[Tim Pool]

It's not that they're loving it, it's that the machine is telling people what to love.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So, I mean, the trick is for almost all of these platforms, if, if YouTube decides that you are going to be the big show, you will be. And there was the example is this, this Van Life woman. This is years ago. She made two videos and got 3 million subscribers.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Pool]

It's impressive because apparently what had happened is that she found the cheat code keywords in one of her videos. I think the thumbnail was like her in a towel, having just showered with her pet snake. And living Van Life, which hit key algorithm points right in the slot. Bullseye. So YouTube showed that video to literally everyone. Not literally, but to 50 million people. She gained millions of subs. And it was like, what just happened? And YouTube said, Oops, the algorithm made you famous. That's how the machine works.

[Phil Labonte]

They'll just decide, well, now it's an algorithm. But to be honest with you, there's a very similar phenomenon when it comes to, like, the music industry. If the, if you are a darling in the music industry, then you will get on all of the, the big tours, you will get on all of the big shows, you will get put into heavy rotation at, you know, Sirius and on all the radio stations. That's the way that it's been in the music industry forever, you know, like, and it doesn't. It really. I mean, there. To, to a certain degree, you have to be. You have to be, you know, you have to be writing music that people want to hear, but it's marginal. You can take. There's a lot of bands out there that are very, very well known and very big that are not writing good music. And it shows in the actual spins they get on, on apps like Spotify and stuff like that. Like, so the idea that it's. It's unique to YouTube, it's, it's really not. It's. It's something that, that's kind of always been when it comes to any kind of entertainment, I imagine.

[Tim Pool]

I, I wonder about this. So I pulled up her channel, it was 1.3. She got 1.3 million subscribers in a week with two videos. And she just vanished. And there's a lot of people who do this. Three years ago she stopped making content. She was getting a million on every video and it looks like she was only making. She wasn't making that many videos. A few per year, I guess. And so it's just, it is very strange how the media apparatus works right now and where it's going, honestly, I have no idea. But this, this format is not going to persist. Absolutely not. All of the big podcasts format, yeah, this like the long form two hour show is, is dying out. I mean they. Colbert was the old guard version and we're all laughing at him. But young people now are just on their phone looking at 30 second clips. They're not watching shows like this either.

[Libby Ammons]

But they're not even. I mean, yes, they are doing that. And the problem with those clips too, and the way that you scroll. Because I'll find myself in like an endless scrolling loop, you know, before I go to bed or something. And it's like you sit down for a minute and look at your phone and then you look up and it's a half hour later and you're like, damn it. Like, how did I, what did I even look at? And you have no idea. Yeah, you know, you watch some guy like take a suitcase and turn it into a chair. You know, you watch like a dance video, someone told you a better way to do Pilates and it's like, what?

[Brianna Morello]

Oh yeah, my algorithm on Instagram is pretty, it's pretty awful. It's toxic. I joke about it all the time, but it's women in their 30s getting facelifts and it's the.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, dear God. Mine is what I said, people assembling furniture.

[Brianna Morello]

I'm like looking up like skincare routines and it's like, get a facelift. No, but it's really bad because even like on certain platforms like YouTube, I just kind of gave up hope on YouTube for my personal content that I was posting. Because we stop at like 1500 followers and like that's it subscribers. And that's all you get on my content. I've never been able to master the algorithm on YouTube.

[Tim Pool]

I think YouTube intentionally manipulates the algorithm for political reasons. The van life story, I think hit the nail on the head with the hammer. They were sending. They were mass. The reason why I think this woman got so many subscribers Is that YouTube behind the scenes said we want everyone living in vans and not Owning homes, you will live in the pod. You will eat the bugs. And this is. This was 2019 when this happened. This is just before COVID People were commenting online that they had never looked at this stuff before and they were getting inundated with van life videos telling them to go live in vans.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, I remember them when it happened to me, absolutely. I didn't understand why it was happening. But now that makes sense why everyone.

[Tim Pool]

Was getting inundated with this hypnotic suggestion to not have a house and live in a van.

[Brianna Morello]

Wef. It's a very powerful group.

[Tim Pool]

And then you know what happened? These people bought vans and lived in them and then abandoned them right away because it was miserable. And they were like, that was the stupidest idea I've ever had. I couldn't take a dump anywhere.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not awesome to live in a van.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I spent a lot of time living in a van, and it is not awesome. As soon as you can get a bus, you will forego pay to get a bus. Like, when you're in a van, you'll be like, okay, we could take a van and make good money, or we can get a bus and be comfortable. Bus every single time. Zero question. Bus.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we. We got the, the trailer for our, for our mobile shows. And I'm like, I could totally live in this. There's a bedroom, there's a tv, there's a kitchen. It's like a little one bedroom apartment. That's nice. But in a van. Here's the other problem with, with all of it is you can't shower. Go to the bathroom. Even in the trailers, like, you're actually tracking where all that water is going when you shower. You're like, do not use too much. Not only do we have very little, but we got to drain the tank and find somewhere to drain it. And you can't go to the bathroom when it's full. And then.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, God, that sounds awful.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

It's.

[Libby Ammons]

This is why when I moved, when I was like moving out here, I was like, has to be town sewer.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Ammons]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, septic's fine.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. I grew up with septic. And there were always issues. There was a leeching field. There was don't run over there because that's where the septic. It was just. No, I'm not doing that.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's jump to this story from ABC News. U.S. olympic and Paralympic officials bar trans women from competing in women's categories. That is massive. Trans women will no longer be eligible to compete in the US In Olympic. The US in the Olympic or Paralympic Games in women's categories after a recent policy change from the US Olympic and Paralympic Committee. Now the question is, what about other nations?

[Libby Ammons]

Well, the thing is that other nations will have to comply if they want to compete in the United States.

[Phil Labonte]

Good.

[Brianna Morello]

I like it.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So perhaps that's 20, 20, 32. There'll be only guys, like, if you go to a different country, you go.

[Libby Ammons]

To a different country.

[Tim Pool]

They go to like France or something or.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, because Pakistan will load their team. Their women's soccer team full of fellas.

[Tim Pool]

Why not?

[Libby Ammons]

That's what they do. They already do that.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Pakistan does this.

[Libby Ammons]

Pakistan has. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Pakistan has men on the women's.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Brianna Morello]

It would allow that?

[Libby Ammons]

I. Either that or it was a parody and I fell for it, but I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that it was Pakistan.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, they. They prefer trans people to homosexuals. Correct.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, Iran forcing transes people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I'm only saying this because.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

It has to do with the. With Islam. And I. If I understand correctly, what.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, she. Islam. They basically say, you can. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So she is.

[Tim Pool]

But not sunny, from what I understand. Only in Iran said.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. All right. Well, I mean it. And is Pakistan. Cheers, honey.

[Tim Pool]

I. I don't know. I'm not sure.

[Brianna Morello]

I know they do it in Iran.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know if they're in Pakistan.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, let's. I'll Google that and find out.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. So the IOCC used to say that males who had a certain measure of testosterone were allowed to compete on women's teams, but Trump said, absolutely not in the United States. So the. That's why the U. S. Olympic and Paralympic commission had to change their rules, because otherwise American athletes wouldn't be able to compete.

[Phil Labonte]

Pakistan is Sunni Olympics.

[Tim Pool]

So GPT says there are no publicly known or confirmed trans women completing competing on any women's soccer teams. But maybe it's hallucinating.

[Libby Ammons]

It's possible.

[Brianna Morello]

Well, common sense is back and it's winning. And I'm excited for that, at least at this point, because previous administration would have never even fought for this.

[Tim Pool]

So they would have fought against it. Yeah, they would have fought to make sure the whole team was nothing but dudes.

[Brianna Morello]

Isn't it crazy? And they call that. They call themselves the party of women's rights. It's the complete opposite. And for some reason, they've been able to brainwash so many people into acceptance.

[Tim Pool]

It's reverse chess. Right. It's like, what do the Democrats want Historically, you know, if you go back to the Civil War, this is a time when women didn't vote. They were in the home, and they had slaves. So what are Democrats doing right now? They're claiming to fight for the welfare of the black community, instead promoting policies that just keep them in impoverished and struggling. They say that they want rights, but then demand to have foreigners with no rights clean their bathroom floors. And now they're allowing men and women's sports, which is pushing women out, which will return women to their place. And they want women to be drafted.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. I think that the interesting thing about trans and how so many lefty women got suckered into that whole thing is because women are, you know, agreeable, stereotypically more agreeable. So if a big man in a dress comes in and tells you, I'm a woman. No, you're gonna. The women are gonna be like, oh, okay, we'll do what the big man in a dress says. And what they will forget is that feminists supposed to be not agreeable. Right. Like, I remember talking to my friends about this, who were all. We were all feminists. And I was like, why are you going along with this? Like, we're supposed to be the disagreeable ones. Why are you just saying yes makes no sense.

[Brianna Morello]

And there's no argument for it. There. There's never any clear argument on their behalf as to why we should be doing this.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, there's a lot of women. Yeah, and there's a lot of them, too, that don't believe that men are women, but go along with it anyway because of the aforementioned agreeableness.

[Phil Labonte]

Do you really think that that's the. The. The situation that women actually don't think it, but they don't feel like they can stand up and say it?

[Libby Ammons]

I think that is true in an enormous amount of cases. I know that my friends, who I was working in, you know, feminist theater collective with, they all agreed with me that men are not women, but they definitely did not feel like they could.

[Tim Pool]

Say that out loud because men would beat them.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, well, that was. That was 2018.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay. So that wasn't actually very long ago.

[Libby Ammons]

Do you think that meanwhile, seven years before that, when we were doing a show of, like, making fun of trans and abortion and surrogacy and adoption and organ harvesting in 2013, when we did that show, they all openly agreed with me, and it wasn't an issue.

[Phil Labonte]

You don't think. Do you think that that. Do you think that there's a fear of being associated with the right wing, with Women that, that you would be in that kind of.

[Libby Ammons]

I think it really is a lot more simple than that. I think it's. You don't want your friends to yell at you at cocktail parties. You still want to be guided to all the things.

[Phil Labonte]

The point that I'm making is if you are a right leaning person, then those things don't happen to you generally.

[Libby Ammons]

Right. Have you seen those memes? That's like, you guys are a lot of fun. We're not leftists.

[Phil Labonte]

Go on, please.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, that's, that's the meme. It's like people boating.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay.

[Libby Ammons]

You know, and then someone will be like, you guys seem like a lot of fun. And the people on the boat will be like, that's because we're not leftists.

[Phil Labonte]

Because it's my. I am. I imagine that women would voice their opinion. And the reason that more women have actually started to voice their opinion now is because they're getting support from more people that are center and right leaning.

[Libby Ammons]

It took Jake.

[Phil Labonte]

Donald Trump winning.

[Libby Ammons]

No, it took J.K. rowling. Yes.

[Brianna Morello]

And look what they did to her.

[Libby Ammons]

Right? And she came out. So she came out in December of whatever the year that was and said, you know, like, go to bed with whoever will have you, but men aren't women, basically. But the previous June, she had come out and basically said something similar and her PR rep was like, oh, no, no, she's just old and she doesn't know what she's saying. And she backed off it.

[Tim Pool]

My favorite thing was how J.K. rowling was. Was on board with all of it for a while. Like saying, actually Hermione Granger was black. And then she would like.

[Libby Ammons]

Although that holds up in the books.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Because she's like, she's got frizzy hair. Right. That proves it. And it's like, oh, shut up. Yeah, come on, stop. Constantly. And then what did you say? Like some character, Dumbledore's gay. And it's like, oh, come on. And then she made him gay and it's just like, we get it, lady. But then, but then they came for her identity and then she had to come out. Now, with all due respect, I do appreciate she stood up to the, to the woke psycho mob and everything. But. And you know, to be fair, when would you expect someone to actually become a prize to the threats faced by wokeness? Certainly when it affects them and they feel it and they see it. So it is good that she spoke up. And man, they. What did they do? They had like a Christmas special and they disinvited her or something.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. She was not part of the Christmas special on hbo.

[Tim Pool]

And even to this day, Rupert Grint, I'm pretty sure it was like Emma Watson. Rupert Grint and Dale Radcliffe have, like, basically insulted her.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. But Draco Malfoy, whatever that actor's name was. Tom felt like, whatever. J.K. rowling is great. She gave me a great career, and I support her entirely. Rupert Grint has had no career.

[Tim Pool]

That's not true.

[Libby Ammons]

Really? What's he been?

[Tim Pool]

He's been in a bunch of. A bunch of stuff.

[Libby Ammons]

Has he?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Really? I mean, I like him. You know, Tom Felton, the great actor Tom Felton.

[Libby Ammons]

I like him. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He was on the CW and I think the Flash. And he is now doing the Broadway. What is he doing? He's doing a. He's playing Draco Malfoy again.

[Libby Ammons]

Is he in. He's in the Harry Potter and the Children's Curse thing or whatever that is.

[Tim Pool]

I think so. The stage show. He's. He's. He's back to being adult. He's. He's now adult Malfoy, and he's returned to. What is that, Harry? I don't know what it's called. I don't know.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, he was in a couple things. Rupert Grint. Yeah. I think he's awful.

[Tim Pool]

He plays guitar. I did not know that.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know anything about Harry Potter.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, I'm out on this one.

[Libby Ammons]

Keanu Reeves is starring in a Broadway show right now with Alex Winter.

[Phil Labonte]

Keanu Reeves?

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. They're basically reprising Bill and Ted's, except.

[Tim Pool]

With not the weird woke garbage.

[Libby Ammons]

Ruined it. No, they're doing Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Godot, but they're doing the.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, I'm sorry, I just. I'm not familiar with. With Broadway at all.

[Libby Ammons]

No, it's not. It's not a Broadway. It's like, not even a Broadway show.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, okay.

[Libby Ammons]

It's like this weird old avant garde show about two guys waiting for somebody and they just wait the whole time. And then at the end. I'm not giving anything away.

[Tim Pool]

See, you know, I gotta defend all. I gotta defend old Rupert Grint here. You know, I was. I was talking to the missus about that song Drops of Jupiter, the band Train. And I said. I was like, yeah, it's a. It's a huge song. It's like, oh, wow. You know, I. I never knew that it was Train. And then my wife was like, well, I mean, what do they have, like, two songs? So, you know, what do you really know by them. And I was like, which one? She was like, I think it was hey, Soul Sister. Right? Is that what it's called? I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's not true. And I bet they have a ton of hits. And then we looked it up, and they have, like, 50 top Billboard songs. Like, not literally 50. I think they have, like, 17. They have hey, Virginia. Calling All Angels. Uhhuh. Drive By. Hey, Soul Sister. Like, it's. Their train is massive.

[Phil Labonte]

Huge.

[Tim Pool]

Huge. And I was like, I never knew. I actually liked this band. I had no idea that it was the name of the band. And everybody knows those songs. So anyway, there. There's a lot of issues where, like, you would say, Rupert Gr. Not anything. Not in anything. Because you don't watch the things that he's in. But if you pull up his. His filmography. He's been in it.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, he's in a ton of stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Nonstop.

[Libby Ammons]

I think part of that is that the.

[Tim Pool]

He was in that movie. That was.

[Libby Ammons]

That movie, that Guillermo del Toro movie.

[Tim Pool]

He was in that. But he does all the M. Night Shyamalan stuff.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, yeah. I'm never going to. I would never think he had a career based on that, because I never watch any of those.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it was the latest one. Oh. Actually, that one wasn't bad. What was that movie?

[Libby Ammons]

Is this Knock at the Cabin? I'm looking at his IMDb.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think that was it. I wouldn't call it, like. You know, to be honest, it's one of the better M. Night Shyamalan movies.

[Libby Ammons]

Is it?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. We haven't really had much of a collective culture in the past 10 or 15 years. It's hard to know, like, what even the most popular things are, because the level of popularity of the most popular things is so degraded from what the level of popularity had been.

[Tim Pool]

Do you remember when the Khaleesi stepped out of the Burning Hut naked and everything on fire? No. You don't remember that, Phil?

[Phil Labonte]

I never watched the. It was Game of Thrones, right.

[Tim Pool]

It was crazy how every Sunday, when a new episode of Game of Thrones came out, everyone on Twitter was tweeting about the episode. And then when Daenerys Targaryen, she. She kills. What's his name? Drago. Whatever. I don't know. It's been so long. It's been a decade. She knocks the fire. Everyone burns to death, but she can't be burned. And then she walks out, everything's on fire, and they're all screaming and dying. And that's how the episode ended. The fire emoji was trending. Everybody was just blasting fire emojis on Twitter. And it's kind of interesting because far leftists, corporate press and anti establishment personalities were tweeting with each other, talking about the show. And that stuff is unifying, but we don't have that anymore.

[Libby Ammons]

No, that was a cool thing about Game of Thrones. It was so cool, in fact, that I tried to watch Game of Thrones and the violence within the first like 15 minutes was enough to. Because I was a new mom at that point. And there's like, you can't, you just can't really handle violence against children and stuff when you're a new mom. Can't do it.

[Tim Pool]

There's nothing unifying anymore. There's no issue where some liberal journalist and some MAGA guy are gonna tweet at each other and be like, yeah, that was awesome. Like a rock band or something. It's just completely bifurcated.

[Libby Ammons]

When I was a kid, at the next day in school, we'd all be talking about like literally the Cosby show or. Ever notice how ads always pop up at the worst moments when the killer's identity is about to be revealed during that perfect meditation flow? On Amazon Music, we believe in keeping you in the moment. That's why we've got millions of ad free podcast episodes. So you can stay completely immersed in every story, every reveal, every breath. Download the Amazon music app and start listening to your favorite podcasts ad free included with prime or, you know, whatever the shows were. There was like must, must see TV on NBC. And if you hadn't watched the shows, you were like out of the loop. You didn't have anything to talk to your friends about at lunch because we all watch the same tv. We'd talk about that and what we had for dinner.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a whole, whole nine yards.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I wonder how we emerge from this, right? Maybe we can't. If you go back in time, you have like a little village. Everybody's talking about the same thing. They go to church, they talk about the same thing, they go back home. Little girls and little boys grow up together, believing the exact same things, living the lives exactly that their grandparents live. Farming or, you know, rudimentary jobs in a small village.

[Libby Ammons]

Except for those black sheep who break off, go to London.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, sure, these things happen. But then you'd end up with like, you know, the boy and the girl would grow up wanting the exact same things around the exact same people. Numbing each other their whole lives. They'd get married and have kids and then the process would repeat. But we largely believed the same things. And so it's interesting when you hear these stories about like the jihad or whatever, whatever the religion may be, a violent religion comes, you know, put you on the ground, puts a knife to your throat and says denounce your religion. That's basically saying reject everything you know to be true. It's telling someone to rapidly alter. And some people did and some people didn't. Now no one believes anything.

[Libby Ammons]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Even next door neighbors completely disagree. How do we function as a society when you're going to walk outside your house, Especially with the AI stuff that's coming. We were messing around with AI music earlier and it's absolutely insane. Seriously. Take, take any song, guys, I'm gonna tell you this right now. Open up suno s u n o take any mp3 you have, upload it, tell it to cover the song and you can, it'll, it'll auto load the lyrics and then you can, you can change the style. So you can literally take a Beatles song, you can take Eleanor Rigby, load it up and say make a house cover. And it will. And it's this. It's nuts. We are going to watch different shows, walk outside your neighbors and be grabbing not the newspaper, guest walking their dog, who knows? And you're going to say, hey, did you catch the latest episode of House? House was canceled years ago. Oh yeah, but I AI generate new episodes you've never seen. What are you going to ask them about? Yeah, you'll have nothing in common. You're going to, you're going to watch your own AI generated football matches.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, and it's like you were talking about before. With things getting shorter and way less involved and the people scrolling. There's, there's. These kids are going to have to figure out what they relate about and what they think is important and how they communicate with each other. My son plays video games with his friends online and they like talk on Discord while they're playing or they talk on the phone while they're playing in game chat or whatever. And he's managed to like coordinate old friends from different places with new friends from, you know, where we live now and stuff. But they managed to find common ground in obscure things that no one else knows about anyway, you know, but like they have their like what? I don't even remember what the name of the new game is that one of his friends was like, we have to play this and how they're all playing this game. It looks cool, maybe showing me, you.

[Tim Pool]

Know, I'm thinking about it. The last unifying thing is politics. And it's not, it's not unifying us. But there were always two teams. We just never really cared all that much about politics because we were more concerned with what was on the Tonight show or something like that. Now because media is completely decentralized, the only thing that we have unifying us is the two parent factions of politics because people in power do not want to give that up and are holding onto it. I wonder if what ends up happening is politics gets decentralized in much the same way and then you have the two party system breaking.

[Libby Ammons]

What would that look like? Decentralized politics.

[Tim Pool]

Just look at how media is today and politics. Right. You'll get 7,000 people voting for one party, 7,000 voting for another party. And then we look at the list of, you know, 48,000 different political parties in the U.S. hey, that one got a million votes. They won.

[Brianna Morello]

That's what Elon Musk is hoping for. And I, I know, you know, we were just talking about talking to your neighbors and what do you have common to talk to your neighbors about these days? I think most people don't even talk to their neighbors anymore. You know, I walk past people I live with in my building and they don't even say hello. And I think that's also adding to this political tension between both sides because we're not communicating with people, we're only communicating online. And I feel like everyone just completely lost the. We do have common, a lot in common with other people. Like, I mean, even though I, I know we tend to think that Democrats aren't very patriotic, I think that when I do talk to Democrats, they do have a love for our country. And if we have a communicate, if we have a lane of communication, I think we'd all be able to understand that and be able to talk about that. Phil's looking like do that.

[Tim Pool]

No, I think we have to, we have to break down what you mean by a love for this country.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So the typical zombified liberal who has no idea what this country is, I wouldn't say loves this country.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, I think the moderate Democrat though still does.

[Tim Pool]

I disagree.

[Phil Labonte]

Moderate Democrat might.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I think that most of your, most of your, your actual left leaning Democrats and, and further left than Democrats, they don't. They legitimately hate the country.

[Tim Pool]

So I'll put it this way. If there was a, if you love this country, would you Intentionally empower people who are burning the country to the ground. Like, if you have a beautiful house and you're like, I love my house. Okay? I love this house. Would you let people in who are smashing the windows and starting fires?

[Brianna Morello]

Well, no, you wouldn't. But here's the other thing, too. I think their algorithm is different than our algorithm, and they don't even see this stuff. And I talk to my sisters who don't even agree with me politically on things when I'm pointing out things. I mean, even the whole Joe Biden, Ashley Biden diary, they had no idea about any of this. It's like they live in a totally separate world.

[Tim Pool]

Sure, sure. They love the country the way I love watching House. Like, I've seen a handful of episodes. They're pretty good.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I can't really cite it. I don't. I know the name of one actor, Hugh Laurie, but, you know, someone asked me, I'd be like, yeah, I love House. It's a great show. Okay, name one episode. I don't any of the titles of the episodes. I don't know any of the actors except for Hugh Laurie. I can't even, up top my head remember a single episode. Wait, hold on. Let me try. I can't do it. The magician one. The magician one. I don't remember why or how, but a magician threw a card at the wall and tricked House.

[Phil Labonte]

Brianna, what do you. So what would you say to someone that says, look, there was a time where Democrats would say that they love America, right? But nowadays they don't, and then say, you were to present evidence. Like, look at Superman, right? Superman historically had the. The motto, you know, truth, justice in the American way. And even up to the most. Not the most recent, but the Superman incarnation that was previous to this, right? The. The man of Steel. I just watched that the other night, and at the end, the Superman's character says. He's like, I'm from can, or I grew up in Kansas. It doesn't get much more American than that. And there are. There are American flags throughout the. The film, right? That was in the whole film. The American flag is about the. The most colorful things that you see in the man of Steel, right? But then in the new one, James Gunn has changed the motto to Truth, justice, and the human Way.

[Tim Pool]

He never says that, though.

[Phil Labonte]

He doesn't.

[Tim Pool]

Not in the movie.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, so that's what. That's what James Gunn has said in. In interviews. And I don't know for sure. Tim, you'd know because you've Seen it. But I don't think that they have the same kind of love of the American flag and that, that same kind of image.

[Tim Pool]

I will say I don't recall in the movie him saying anything like that. But the premise of the movie is literally that he stops two war, two countries from going to war. And one of those countries is aligned with the US Government. The US Government is upset about it, but they don't think he should be charged. They say, well, he's well intentioned and we don't want. We don't want to go to war publicly with Superman. So it's, you know, let's go to war with Superman.

[Phil Labonte]

But the, but the point being, there was a time where we did, you know, we had these shared ideas and, and things that we all believed and things that, and it was okay to be patriotic and, and love America. And someone, some, you know, a character like Superman was thought of as the quintessential American. He grew up in Kansas. You know, he was, he was. He came to the, to America from, from outer space. He grew up in Kansas. His parents were pro America. Like, he believed in the American way. And now, you know, the people that are writing Superman, they're trying to make him more of an international thing. He's for all of humanity, et cetera, et cetera.

[Tim Pool]

He's an immigrant.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. You know, that kind of. That kind of. I mean, what, what's your take on that? Do, do you still think that the people that write these kind of. These kind of movies and stuff like this, this kind of fiction.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, wait.

[Phil Labonte]

Do you think that they really love America?

[Tim Pool]

I got it. Have you seen Men in Black?

[Brianna Morello]

I'm not a movie person.

[Tim Pool]

You haven't seen Men in black? I'm 1999 or whatever.

[Brianna Morello]

I know. I'm sorry.

[Tim Pool]

For those that are listening, that the alien comes, crash lands, and then Vincent d' Onofrio's character walks as a farmer and it eats him and then puts his skin over his body and walks into the house and he goes, sugar water. And the wife's like, what? He's like, sugar water. And then she puts sugar in the water and he just slams it. It's like, well, she loves Edgar, right? Just like Democrats love America. So when these disgusting zombified liches wear this country like a skin suit and the moderate liberals can't tell the difference and say, I love America, it's like, that is a Marxist zombie, not America. What they're claiming they love does not actually represent this country.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, I mean, I, I Don't. I don't disagree with that. I think that, I think there's a lot of ignorance on the left, and I don't think that they see it as Marxist. They don't see it there.

[Tim Pool]

But like, right, like the argument is, you know, sloth loved baby Ruth but didn't know what it was either. You know what I mean? So we can certainly recognize that people who are cognitively impaired and don't pay attention can love something. But just like, you know, the stupid child who thinks the baby wolf is a puppy until it grows up, these people are sitting there being like, I don't see any of this stuff. It's like that. Remember that Emirates flight that flew straight over Iran during the war? And the meme was, you know, I turned off social media. My mental health has never been better.

[Libby Ammons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

That's what they are. So when they're like, Donald, Donald Trump claims Obama was engaged in treason, but he had no evidence, we're sitting here being like, oh, my God, do you literally get your news from memes? And they're like, hey, hey, you're a fascist. Because they do. You know, who do we have on who believed that very fine people hoax. I don't remember Karen or whatever her name is.

[Libby Ammons]

I don't remember that.

[Phil Labonte]

What her last name was, but her first name was Tara.

[Tim Pool]

And she was like, wait, Trump never said that. And we were like, holy crap, it's been almost 10 years. Yeah, Trump never said that. They still believe it.

[Brianna Morello]

Well, I would more so blame Republican messaging. I mean, there's very little outreach. I remember when I graduated high school, for an example, they hit you with a registration form to register to vote. And like, I just figured that since I'm a female, I've got to just go on the line of Democrats. And it's because Republicans don't have any outreach. I talk to black Americans all the time and they don't even realize that they have conservative values. And yet they still have loyalty to a party that doesn't align with their actual beliefs. I think it's a messaging issue that they just keep flopping on.

[Tim Pool]

Do you believe that your average run of the mill Democrat thinks that black people can't get IDs?

[Brianna Morello]

Tough one. I think it's more of a liberal thing. I don't know if it's. I don't know if it's all of them.

[Libby Ammons]

Sonny Hobbs. A vestige of slavery.

[Tim Pool]

I'd be willing to bet that if you went to New York and asked your average person, they're going to be like, yeah, it's really hard for them.

[Libby Ammons]

And they just don't think it through. And they just don't realize how racist that is and that black people have driver's licenses and non driver's IDs and file their taxes and have birth certificates.

[Tim Pool]

So when we say they love this country, I don't know what they love. But when you have, like, you know, I'm not trying to drag her and be a dick because we enjoyed her coming on the show, but this woman is a journalist who lives in Brooklyn and she believed, near 10 years on that Trump called Nazis fine people. So she claims that she's not being biased and she's not a liberal. And it's like, I don't think you understand. You are. Andrew Breitbart called this default liberal. They have no idea what they're talking about. They don't do the research and they think they're smart. I'll give a shout out to Jess Margera, who literally tweeted that he was a better journalist than all of the journalists in his pajamas because he uncovered Epstein was funding Pam Bondi, when in fact, all he actually uncovered was aggregate donation listings on Open Secrets. But he's too stupid to realize he's stupid.

[Libby Ammons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So perhaps they love America, but dunning Kruger impairs their ability to make the country work.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, I mean, so the reporter you're talking about who lived in Brooklyn, I mean, it's like there's no other. There's no conservative voices out there that they're ever going to interact with. There's no moderate Republicans that they're going to interact with, likely in Brooklyn, New York.

[Tim Pool]

And as a journalist, there's no, there's no reason why they would ever fact.

[Brianna Morello]

Check any of these stories because they're not real journalists. Yeah, for sure. And I think that's the problem here. But I mean, you were just talking about the algorithm, too. It's just, it's also tainted. And, you know, if you're not an intelligent person who's searching for facts, you're gone.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this story from Rolling Stone. Stephen Colbert addresses cancellation by telling Trump to go F yourself. I love this. Because his ratings are in the gutter. His demographic is about to go off the cliff, and he's acting like he's been personally slighted while engaging in conspiracizing. Is that a word?

[Libby Ammons]

It is now.

[Brianna Morello]

I like that.

[Tim Pool]

It is now. He basically says on the show, the reason why it's remarkable. He goes according to a leaked Report the show was losing 40 to $50 million per year. 40. That's too much. I can imagine 24. Then where would the other 16 go? And it's like, wait, what is he implying? That CBS, okay, losing $24 million a year and he's getting canceled now because they got to give 16 million to Trump over the lawsuit.

[Phil Labonte]

As if that the lawsuit isn't annually. Right. Like every year they're going to have to give him. It's. That's stupid. And then also like, if it's Donald Trump's fault, if he was really doing it to shut him up and stuff, not why, why would they allow him to. Or why would he allow him to stay for another year while he can sit there and mauled every night?

[Tim Pool]

Well, the real reality is Colbert gets. He Sundays we're number one in ratings. Yeah. Among 70 year olds, bro. So when you actually look at key demo, he loses to Kimmel. When you look at his YouTube channel, he's the worst performing of all of the hosts. He's lying. And this is one of the most pathetic responses to your show being canceled I've ever seen, bro. Shows get canceled all the time. Is there any other moment we've seen in history where a guy had a meltdown the way Colbert did over his show getting canceled?

[Libby Ammons]

It's been ridiculous. And a bunch of celebrities went to his show, I think was it last night at the Ed Sullivan Theater in New York to show their support. And you had Adam Sandler in the audience and Andy Cohen and a whole bunch of people.

[Tim Pool]

And no one knew it happened because nobody watches that show.

[Libby Ammons]

No. And then you also had Jon Stewart did a, had a. Led a gospel choir in the song, you know, go eff yourself, where that was the only lyric. And he's dancing around. Meanwhile, did you see what Trump said? He said it's really good to see them go. And I hope I played a mate. Played a major part in it. You know, Happy, he called for Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon to be next in the cancel cancellation.

[Tim Pool]

Happy Gilmore 2 is coming out on Friday.

[Libby Ammons]

I will go see.

[Tim Pool]

And that. It's on Netflix.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, is it?

[Tim Pool]

It is the. It is a sign of the end of times. Colbert's audience, they are aging. They are 70 years old. So realistically, we can't even argue they'll be around that much longer. I mean, maybe a lot of these really old folks are just sitting in the chair sunken into the sofa, just. That's all they do all night. I'm not trying to be mean. To old people. But they're just chilling. They're not doing much. But how much are they participating in the market, that advertisers want to be involved in that and that it's going to have an impact. What I will say is I think the reason this has persisted as long as it has is that there are no young people, which I often bring up, which gives disproportionate weight to older generations, of which, you know, boomers are a very large generation.

[Libby Ammons]

But you also have. The boomers are refusing to give up anything. They're refusing to sell their homes. They're refusing to, you know, give up their late night talk shows. They're refusing to give up their jobs.

[Tim Pool]

Who raised them?

[Libby Ammons]

Who raised them? That was the silent generation. That was the people that. The people that fought in World War II.

[Tim Pool]

That's the greatest, isn't it?

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, silent. Yeah, silent was Biden and yeah. The next was my grandparents. The. Yeah, greatest generation.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, greatest had the boomers. Now, what did the greatest generation do wrong that it led to. And I know I gotta, I gotta always caveat this because everyone always assumes you're talking individually about them and take it personally. There is a reality Gen Z and millennials are lazy. That does not mean that all of them are lazy. It means that many of them. That we are seeing trends among this generation boomers, there's a trend among their generation to hoard and not to disperse among their generations the way previous generations did. Now, it's not entirely their fault. They are living a lot longer. Used to be that in the past you would die so your stuff would just move on. But boomers own a disproportionate amount of wealth relative to every other generation. And it is shockingly insane.

[Libby Ammons]

It's definitely true that that's happening. Yeah, they do have a. They do have a lot more. They have. They still have a couple of homes each. You know, a lot of these people.

[Tim Pool]

But corporate equities, everything. They own 80% of the stock market.

[Libby Ammons]

I mean, what happens when they go. The stock market will just maybe tank.

[Tim Pool]

It is going to tank. So I have predicted this and I could be wrong because who the fmi. But when these people. So equities, maybe not maybe, but the housing market I think is going to be insane and they're going to have to fabricate. They're going to have to prop it up with communistic, like government controls. Because when a boomer dies.

[Libby Ammons]

You mean like 28, 2008 or different. That was propped up too different.

[Tim Pool]

But here's what, here's, here's what I think may happen. Gen Z has no money. They're accumulating no wealth. Many of them have decided not to even bother saving because how the hell are you going to buy a $500,000 house when you're getting paid 35, $40,000 a year to start? There's no vision. When you look at that. There's a clip from Boy Meets World. No, no, no. Was it Boy Meets World?

[Libby Ammons]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. Is it with the panga?

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, that's Boy Meets World.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so in one of the later episodes, they're buying a house and it's like $80,000 for a house. Jeez, I'm going to need $4,000 down.

[Libby Ammons]

80,000.

[Tim Pool]

That was, it was a viral clip. This is from the late 90s.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, late 90s.

[Tim Pool]

So Gen Z is not saving. Boomers are going to die and they're going to give their houses to their millennial children. Now what's going to happen is Millennial from Missouri inherits a $500,000 house, but they live in Chicago.

[Libby Ammons]

They're going to try and sell it.

[Tim Pool]

To nobody, and there's no one of their generation who has the wealth to buy. So what ends up happening is a bunch of millennials may inherit properties, but no one has the liquid cash to actually buy a house. They may be swapping houses with each other to try and live in areas they want to live, but the market is going to tank. There's going to be no Gen Z buyers and no Gen Alpha buyers. There's no Gen Alpha. Gen Alpha is only 40 million, which is psychotic. It's half the size of the millennials.

[Libby Ammons]

How big is the Gen Z?

[Tim Pool]

Gen Z is 72 million. Millennial is 80 and Alpha is 42.

[Libby Ammons]

That's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely insane.

[Libby Ammons]

But I mean, the Gen Z still has time to have some Gen Alpha.

[Tim Pool]

Gen. No, I think they capped. Gen Gen Alpha's closed now.

[Libby Ammons]

Is it?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think Gen Alpha ends officially this year.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

And so it's remarkably small. If they, if you do take the interpretation to extend it by two years, they're looking at 50 million.

[Libby Ammons]

Million. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So, okay, you know, still a little.

[Libby Ammons]

Bit more than half, not replacement.

[Tim Pool]

But if a millennial inherits a house, Gen Z can't buy it. And the value of the property is, is based upon the demand, so they can. So here's what happens in a, in a true market, you, you inherit a million dollar house. Let's be real. Ten years from now, the price are probably a million bucks. And then you're gonna put on the market. No one's gonna want to buy it because they can't. And so you're gonna go to the agent and you're gonna say, look, I don't want to move to Missouri. I don't want to hire a management company to maintain the property. Your agent's going to say, if you do not, squatters will take it over or it will fall apart, a pipe can burst, and you will find out. A week later, the house is gone. You need to do something with it. They're going to sell it. We have no offers at a million 800,000. A week later, we have zero offers. Five. Zero offers four. Okay. Black Rock. BlackRock has come in and said they'll buy it at four.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, that's a disaster, too. And then you have the foreign. The what?

[Brianna Morello]

Foreign buyers, too.

[Libby Ammons]

Foreign buyers. China, you know, because of course, Katie Hobbs can't be bothered to pass the law. You know, what's bans Chinese buying land in Arizona.

[Tim Pool]

You know what's really crazy over by us. You know, a lot of people like to say that Tim lives in the middle of nowhere, and they. They built a studio even further out in the middle of nowhere. You know, Bannon was talking about driving up in the woods to our old studio where, you know, where we had lived at the time. Now we have this big property and they've started. Developments have been popping up.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Libby Ammons]

Have you seen it around here?

[Tim Pool]

There's, I think they've built like 50 to 100 houses.

[Brianna Morello]

Townhouses I saw on the way.

[Tim Pool]

Who is going to move into these things?

[Libby Ammons]

No, it's not just that. They're not. They're not increasing infrastructure. So if you try and drive down these roads now, there's traffic jams.

[Phil Labonte]

Yo.

[Libby Ammons]

On these.

[Tim Pool]

We had a traffic jam today.

[Libby Ammons]

Less people in this state than the entirety of Brooklyn.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And the houses are all terrible.

[Libby Ammons]

And the houses are terrible.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. They're cheaply built. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But who are they for?

[Libby Ammons]

I have not been. Because there's not a lot of jobs either.

[Phil Labonte]

300,000. Well, they're $300,000. Like the area that I live in where my place is. Like, I'm. I'm the first tenant in this townhouse that I got down here. Right. And there's a bunch of houses in the. In the neighborhood. It's not only townhouses and the houses start at like 350. I think they say they start in the threes. I'm not exactly sure. But like $350,000 for, you know, maybe, maybe a quarter eighth of an acre. There's like no property. It's just the house. The house is probably, probably two, two bedrooms. I'm not sure I'm gone in to look at any of the, the stuff, but like, they're, they're, you know, they're, they're, they're popping up all over the place. There's, there's, they're still building in my area, so I have no idea who they're going to get to fill these houses at all, but that the places that they're building, they are getting filled very quickly. So it could be people. It's probably renters.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, a lot of renters.

[Brianna Morello]

I know.

[Phil Labonte]

I rent.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Here at least.

[Brianna Morello]

And it's kind of crazy too, all these new houses that they're building. I mean, whether it's Florida, Texas, nobody has a backyard anymore. And I remember just growing up, everyone had a backyard and it was like a thing. And for some reason, I mean, we know what the reason is. Everyone's, their houses are very close together now. That seems to be the new norm with no backyard words.

[Libby Ammons]

I have a backyard.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Libby Ammons]

And I have an acre.

[Phil Labonte]

I have a little bit of a good life. I have a little bit of a backyard down here.

[Libby Ammons]

My little tiny house.

[Phil Labonte]

But in New Hampshire, I've got a whole lot of property, so.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, in New Hampshire, you're a, you're in a, you're in a, you're a landed estate owner.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, you're a duke, 50 acres.

[Libby Ammons]

Maybe even an Earl. I don't know which one is higher.

[Brianna Morello]

Up to build townhouses on that land.

[Phil Labonte]

No, I'm not building anything. I'm, I'm keeping my privacy is what I'm doing.

[Tim Pool]

So the interesting, interesting thing about all this generational stuff is that when the 08 crash happened, immediate predictions emerged that 18 years from now, we will be economically devastated because people stopped having babies. And what we're seeing right now is universities are collapsing because there's no enrollment.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So there was one university was like in Utah, it was like 200 years old and it just went out, shut down and went out of business.

[Libby Ammons]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yep. No young people means no colleges. That's a good thing, I guess.

[Libby Ammons]

I remember when I was trying to get into college and at the time Gen X was like the lowest birth rate generation because of like Vietnam, abortion and contraception. Right. So we all, like, all of us got, I even got into college. I had no business getting into college. And I def. I got in and I went to college and there was no reason I should get into college. There just weren't enough people to fill the colleges.

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[Libby Ammons]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Libby Ammons]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Libby Ammons]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Brianna Morello]

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[Libby Ammons]

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[Brianna Morello]

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[Libby Ammons]

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[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, it wouldn't be too bad if they shut down.

[Tim Pool]

They're going to turn the old college buildings into migrant housing. Oh, that's not a joke.

[Phil Labonte]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Libby Ammons]

Several, like, liberal arts colleges in Westchester just full of Guatemalan immigrants.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. You know, and you're going to walk in and they're going to have, like, stewed beef and it's going to be delicious.

[Libby Ammons]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Lamb.

[Libby Ammons]

Right. You know, well, goat, depending on where people are, actually.

[Phil Labonte]

Gross.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And you're gonna have to learn Spanish pigs.

[Libby Ammons]

Those giant guinea pig things.

[Phil Labonte]

Capybara.

[Libby Ammons]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

They eat cappy. Oh, they're a capybara.

[Libby Ammons]

I don't know. I'm making stuff up.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody's friends. I'm making stuff up everybody's friends.

[Phil Labonte]

Everybody loves a capybara.

[Tim Pool]

But let's jump to this story from the post. Millennial Pam Bondi removes first assistant US Attorney for NJ after federal judges replace Alina Haba. This is a crazy story.

[Libby Ammons]

This is a crazy story.

[Tim Pool]

The simple version is Alina Haba hasn't been given her confirmation hearing for the role of his attorney for New Jersey. So these judges are like, she gotta go. And so they're trying to effectively replace her with somebody else. It is pure politics. And Bondi was like, nope, you fired. So this is administrative civil war, like, in our faces. This is nuts.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. This is crazy. So these judges, they said, okay, you've had 120 days to be the US Attorney for New Jersey, and now you're out. And they appointed, what, her first assistant or whatever. And so Pam Bondi removed the first assistant and said, well, now they're fired and you don't have them either. So now the position is vacant.

[Brianna Morello]

That's amazing. I mean, this is what we wanted, right? We wanted a DOJ that's gonna fight back.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, that's.

[Brianna Morello]

That I give him a doj.

[Libby Ammons]

Has to a point.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, they do, they do. And you know what? We're always critical. Well, I'm always critical of Pambani, so I'll give her this win because we want someone who's gonna push back, be aggressive, go out there and tell these rogue judges that this is not their place. They don't get to make these decisions, that this is the DOJ's decision. And if they want to sit there and toss someone out, then they'll just keep replacing them with hopefully further right individuals who will continue to push the President Trump's agenda.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, like, I, like, I was going to say, like, you know, this is an aggressive move by the, the, you know, doj, and it's nice to see, and hopefully we'll see more of this kind of, you know, aggressive pushback on what essentially amounts to, you know, Democrats doing everything they can to obstruct, which is what it, what, what's going on with the, with the Alina Hava stuff.

[Brianna Morello]

You know, I would love to see them actually put people in positions like this who are victims of lawfare. You know, Giuliani, obviously, one of them. Jeff Clark, another attorney who is the victim of lawfare. I don't know if they're licensed in, in New Jersey to practice, but you know what? Let's just go all in.

[Libby Ammons]

Let's put Mackie doing, you know.

[Brianna Morello]

Oh, Mackie. Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. I mean, I, I just, I think that they need to push back on this issue, and I'm happy that she's doing so. And I think all the people who went out there, those little communists who decided to go after anyone who was representing President Trump and tried to instill fear into attorneys and make sure that he never represent President Trump ever again. I think we need to push back that same type of hatred.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I would love to see as much pushback as the DOJ and the administration's comfortable with.

[Brianna Morello]

It's a good sign.

[Phil Labonte]

It is a good sign. And again, these are small things, and it's not the kind of aggressive of, you know, action that I would like to see, but it is Better than what you've seen from past Republican administrations. I mean, Donald Trump in his first administration was fairly, you know, milquetoast. He wasn't as aggressive, nearly as aggressive as he. As he's talked, you know, and I would love to have seen him be more aggressive back then. But now you see. Well, I think that the administration should. I can't say what they do, but they should see the reality that they exist in and that if you do not exercise power when you have it, you're only making sure that your political opponents and, in my opinion, enemies of the country will exercise power when they get it. And they eventually, it's likely that they will get it. Hopefully not in the next, you know, in the next. In the next presidential administration, but they're going to. At some point there's going to be a Democrat elected, and hopefully there's been enough changes that the Republicans make to, you know, to limit the damage that they can possibly do. But, I mean, there's no promise, obviously. But.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. And you know what I love about this, though? This is. This is what is so great about the Trump administration. President Trump listens to everyone. And public pressure, I think, works here. I know under a lot of other administrations, that wasn't so the case. They didn't care what the people had to say. But President Trump, I think when we were sitting here and pushing back, and at first he was a little dismissive over the Epstein stuff, but now all of a sudden we're seeing movement by the DoJ, asking courts to free up and make public record. A lot of the things that were going on during the grand jury testimonies and whatnot. I think a lot of that comes from public pressure. And so you see Pam Bonney making these moves. And that comes after MAGA core speakers, core influencers in the MAGA movement were coming out and saying, she's got to go. If you want to earn your keepings here, you got to be a little bit tougher. And I think that's what's happening.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, I would like to see. Yeah, I would like to see, you know, I would like. I like the fact that. That the administration is responsive to the. What essentially amounts to the mag movement and the influencers, but the influencers are responsible, responsive to the people that are actually, you know, the, the voters. Right. Like, Charlie Kirk was kind of like, well, you know, I don't really want to talk about this, but, but the outcry about the FBI, he didn't, he.

[Libby Ammons]

Never said he didn't want to talk about it. That was made up. Trump, he's been talking about it consistently this whole time.

[Tim Pool]

The full context was he said, you know, my position on this, I want these things released. So for now, I'm done talking about it because I'm going to trust them to do the right thing, blah, blah.

[Libby Ammons]

And he meant for that part of the show. Yeah, they talked about it later in the show. Okay, well, he just meant for right then.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, again, the administration is responsive to the people that have the president's ear, you know.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

And. And I don't.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know why Trump is simultaneously blasting this thing. Awful obstruction. Obstructing it.

[Phil Labonte]

Pardon me?

[Tim Pool]

Trump is simultaneously blasting the Epstein story into the press while obstructing it.

[Brianna Morello]

It is weird, maybe to get Democrats to force their hand a little bit. I know everyone talks about the 40 chest thing, and I always roll my eyes at it because it's a little.

[Tim Pool]

Dimensional time travel chess at this point.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. I mean, listen, he's getting Democrats to sit out here and say that they want him to release it, which is something they weren't willing to do previously. So, I mean, maybe now you got them quoted on this and you could hold their feet to the fire a little bit, especially when it's their allies who are going to probably be listed in a lot of this.

[Tim Pool]

No idea. I mean, Trump could just make a fake list.

[Libby Ammons]

You said that Hillary Clinton.

[Tim Pool]

I know.

[Brianna Morello]

I'm saying Obama were looking to do that.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They arrested Trump on fake charges they made up, and Trump is not doing anything in kind. So it's like, if you want to know why the Democrats are evil and Trump is not. Is. Trump is not making up fake charges to go after his enemies. How about that? It's going slow and we're unsatisfied because evil people are getting away with the evil they've done.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. And he isn't. He isn't just making stuff up. Although they still make stuff up. That whole Wall Street Journal story last week.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, the, the letter.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, the.

[Tim Pool]

That never actually explicitly stated it was signed Donald Trump.

[Brianna Morello]

And they won't show you it. They won't show you the illustration.

[Tim Pool]

And it just said his name was on it.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, you guys, his name was on it as the pubic hair of the drawing.

[Tim Pool]

I found a, a bag of old McDonald's with Libby's name on it.

[Brianna Morello]

Was it hers?

[Tim Pool]

It said the word Libby. I don't know if it was hers.

[Libby Ammons]

I think you should, you should leak that to the Wall Street Journal.

[Tim Pool]

But that's what they're doing. They're like, Donald's name was on it. Well, like, Donald's name is Donald, but a lot of people share that name. Do you mean Donald Trump was written on it? They don't say. Yeah, because what they're basically telling you is they want you to assume it's Donald Trump because he said his name.

[Libby Ammons]

And it also, they. They say that basically it was using a thick black marker because nobody uses those except for Donald Trump. He's the only one that has ever used a thick black marker.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's true. I didn't even. Thick black marker's not even a thing you can buy.

[Libby Ammons]

No, you can't. You can't buy like order.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. Special order.

[Libby Ammons]

Can't do it.

[Tim Pool]

Remember those metal ones?

[Libby Ammons]

The metal sharpies? They had those.

[Tim Pool]

No, the metal black markers.

[Libby Ammons]

No.

[Tim Pool]

You don't remember those?

[Libby Ammons]

No.

[Phil Labonte]

Paint markers.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Those are metal. Metal bodies. And you have to.

[Libby Ammons]

The paint. Once you say paint markers. I remember. I. I have drawn in the wrong places with those.

[Phil Labonte]

Draw in the wrong. Really, Libby, Being a. A rebel here?

[Libby Ammons]

Nah.

[Phil Labonte]

Admitting it on the Internet. Dot com.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, I'm sure that you guys should. Of limitation.

[Tim Pool]

Guys, you are all wrong. This is why I'm talking about this one.

[Libby Ammons]

One.

[Tim Pool]

We're talking about this guy right here. This bad boy.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. Oh, so good. Remember they tell you they kill your brain cells. I used to sniff those all the time.

[Phil Labonte]

We used to get high. I was just.

[Tim Pool]

We would. We would connect all of them together.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, you could do that.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah, it was great.

[Libby Ammons]

I was thinking of the actual paint markers with the really thick king size.

[Tim Pool]

Permanent marker was made of metal.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yo. I went to an antique store and everything was metal.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, Metal or glass or properly, properly made. Proper wood, not amalgams of various materials.

[Tim Pool]

We got to go back. Let's just. No more plastic and Pizza Hut. Classic.

[Libby Ammons]

When I was buying furniture for my house, I bought old stuff. I bought like a proper dresser that was made out of wood from, you know, 100 something years ago.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I just want to say Pizza Hut is disgusting, but I really want to go to Pizza Hut because, you know, they've started rebuilding the OG ones.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there's that one. There's one in North Carolina.

[Tim Pool]

Like I said, they're bringing back Happy Gilmore Scrubs, King of the Hill, Malcolm in the Middle. They're literally just saying, guys, there's no young people to sell to anymore, so we're gonna keep selling to you. The world we made for Millennials. And I'm like, I win.

[Libby Ammons]

You know what? What about that thing? I've read about this a fair number of times, and I don't know how pervasive it is, but there's, like, this alleged movement of gen zers who eschew their phones for the most part, and, yeah, hang out. Analog. Is that for real?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know if I believe it.

[Brianna Morello]

I don't know either. I haven't met them.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe. Maybe if you're talking about, like, homeless youth.

[Libby Ammons]

No, it's like rich kids in Brooklyn.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. But you know what I want to do this weekend? I want to go to that city in West Virginia where your phones don't work.

[Libby Ammons]

That sounds fun. Oh, I had that last year. I went on a ski trip. I went to Snowshoe, and when I was, like, making the reservations and figuring it out, I was talking to this lady on the phone. She was like, make sure to print out your directions, because about an hour away from the mountain, your phone's going to start working. And I was like, yes, this is amazing.

[Tim Pool]

Stop working.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, well, it didn't stop working, but I had no service for most of the trip.

[Tim Pool]

What's that city? Is it Green Bank?

[Libby Ammons]

Well, I would check out.

[Brianna Morello]

It give me anxiety.

[Tim Pool]

Green Bank, West Virginia.

[Libby Ammons]

I would be okay with it. Because you know what? It's an excuse. You can say to your colleagues. You know what? I can't actually work this weekend if you need me. Sorry. Because I just have no service. Sometimes my WI fi goes out at home, and I have very bad cell service at my house. And I'm just like, ah, sorry, guys.

[Tim Pool]

They have a Western Union.

[Libby Ammons]

My WI fi is.

[Tim Pool]

Remember that.

[Libby Ammons]

Can't do any work.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man, I remember.

[Libby Ammons]

Western Union. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

A drive in restaurant. This is the place to go, man. Cell phones don't work.

[Libby Ammons]

Sounds nice.

[Tim Pool]

That's what we need.

[Libby Ammons]

You know what? You know what? All they need is a new old Pizza Hut. And it's okay.

[Brianna Morello]

I'm sold.

[Libby Ammons]

Right.

[Brianna Morello]

Enough crust?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, there's. There's.

[Libby Ammons]

I made stuff.

[Tim Pool]

There's an original Pizza Hut the other night.

[Libby Ammons]

It was good.

[Tim Pool]

There's original pizza about 40 minutes away from here.

[Brianna Morello]

Oh, really?

[Tim Pool]

And what people don't realize is that pizza begun. Began. Begun to remodel their Pizza Huts. And it's all Jack Posobic's fault. And this is not.

[Libby Ammons]

I remember that. I loved that.

[Tim Pool]

Not a joke.

[Libby Ammons]

I wrote a whole story about that.

[Tim Pool]

25 locations have been remodeled to the original Pizza Huts with, you know, indoor Seating and salad bars and is because of Jack Posobic. Did you write that it was because of Jack Posobic?

[Libby Ammons]

No, I wrote when he started doing his whole Pizza Hut thing, I did like a whole. I did like a whole kind of elaborate story about it.

[Brianna Morello]

Pasobic services country never ends.

[Libby Ammons]

Indeed.

[Brianna Morello]

I'm a big fan of this. Bring it back. Because those are the happier times I remember getting. Like when he had a real. And I had very few of these, but when he had a really good, like, spelling test score on your. On your spelling test at school, you get a coupon for a free personal pan.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, dang. That's a good deal.

[Brianna Morello]

I know, I know. And that's when my parents would take us. They never would take us otherwise.

[Tim Pool]

This is all that matters og Pizza Hut. Now their food's disgusting. The wings are really good, but their pizza is like really low quality garbage.

[Phil Labonte]

I disagree. I still like Pizza Hut.

[Tim Pool]

It is full of chemicals and nasty garbage that is very, very bad.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes. That's why low quality garbage.

[Tim Pool]

Is real.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, really?

[Libby Ammons]

Chuck E. Cheese.

[Tim Pool]

Papa John's is actual real ingredients I heard was recycled.

[Brianna Morello]

I know it's the ads, but.

[Tim Pool]

No, it actually is. I take this very seriously. Pizza pizza puts Splenda in their crust, artificial sweeteners in there in their crust, and then Domino's isn't that bad, but they've got all the weird preservatives and stuff.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Papa John's ingredients for their dough is. I think it's like unbleached wheat flour, water, yeast, and soybean oil. Okay, that's it. Little Caesar is also really good ingredients, bare minimum. And I think the issue is they. They sell so rapidly that they're not super concerned with spoil with food spoiling.

[Libby Ammons]

What do you put in your pizza dough?

[Tim Pool]

Me?

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I don't eat pizza dough.

[Libby Ammons]

You don't make pizza. Oh, that's right. You don't do any of the good stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Gluteny carby.

[Libby Ammons]

I forgot.

[Tim Pool]

No. My pizza dough is made of cauliflower and in whey protein.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, it sounds awful.

[Tim Pool]

Or, or. Or Lou Malnati's sausage crust. You know, this is what.

[Libby Ammons]

It's a sausage crust.

[Tim Pool]

Lou Malnati's sells a piece of sausage this big with sauce and cheese on it that you bake. Now the whole pizza itself is made of meat. That's man pizza.

[Libby Ammons]

That sounds amazing. Especially if you then top it with pepperoni and sausage and.

[Tim Pool]

And more sausage. The whole thing is sausage.

[Brianna Morello]

Where do you get that?

[Libby Ammons]

Talk about meat lovers.

[Tim Pool]

How you ordered Online. I don't know if they saw these stores, but you can. Did you look it up?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You can order them right now. We, we ordered. We ordered a whole bunch of them. They got. They have like a gluten free crust, a regular crust, and then a sausage meat crust for the keto people. No, Blaze pizza has a keto crust as well. It's a protein crust. Pretty good. Blaze is awesome. Have you guys ever eaten at Blaze?

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. They are good.

[Tim Pool]

I like it. It's like chipotle for pizza.

[Brianna Morello]

It's amazing.

[Tim Pool]

You walk up, you get in line and you're like, I want the rising, the thick dough. I want, you know, pesto sauce with mozzarella. And they put it all on and then they throw it into a brick oven right in front of you. And then you watch it for a few minutes and they pull it out and bang. You gotta fresh hot pizza.

[Brianna Morello]

I remember. So I'm one of seven, so I have a lot of siblings. My parents would have to like go get pizza all the time when we. Well, affordable pizza. It was like $5 for a pie. It's so crazy. I go to a store now, it's like 22 bucks for a pie of pizza. What the heck's going on with this country?

[Tim Pool]

I'm getting hungry now.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm starving.

[Libby Ammons]

I could use some pizza, honestly. I love a pizza.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm dying.

[Tim Pool]

It's all closed at 12 now.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, at 12.

[Tim Pool]

At 12. So you're saying we can order pizza right now?

[Phil Labonte]

I think so.

[Tim Pool]

Now.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, right now.

[Tim Pool]

Huh.

[Phil Labonte]

God.

[Tim Pool]

We got a place nearby called Pizza Oven. It's the best. It's the best. It's like a local spot, but they got. They've got pizza where the crust is like that thick. Big, thick rising crusts. And then you just drench it with sass. Amazing Sass. Pizza oven. Sass.

[Libby Ammons]

This is your. This is the Chicago coming out.

[Tim Pool]

No one in Chicago says sassy.

[Libby Ammons]

Really? Where do. Why do you say it?

[Tim Pool]

It's a. It's a joke.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

It would be like if I talk like this because I'm getting hummus.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. But people do talk like that.

[Tim Pool]

I know. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Specifically Search.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Especially. All right.

[Phil Labonte]

Before the show starts. That's exactly how Sergeant.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Serge's accent that you hear on the show is actually fake. He fights it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Actually before the show. He talks like this for everything. Yeah. And he's always answering questions with other questions.

[Phil Labonte]

You think I'm lying or you think we're lying? It's. It's Totally true. That's why he's laughing like that. He knows it. He's like, you guys are blowing me up.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we're going to your chat. Smash the like button. Share the show. If you like the show, tell your friends, say, hey guys, I got a really good show. Let's watch it. Tim, cast IRL and make sure you get ready. That uncensored call in show is coming [e-mail] Timcast IRL members only. And if you sign up for Rumble Premium you will get with using promo code TIM10 10 bucks off your yearly membership. And we just released our feature length documentary by six seven Kevin Sin the end of Illegal Immigration. If you know people who don't believe this stuff, who think Trump is making it up or that you're making it up, this is what you do. You get your Rumble Premium, you show them Sin frontier. Go to rumble.com Tim Pools if you're a premium member. Hour and 46 minute long. Minutes long and six seven Kevin actually went to the Darien Gap. He tracked human traffickers and he documented child trafficking. And you and you can see just how brutal and evil this stuff really is. And so that is available now and I recommend you watch it. In the meantime, we will read your chats and rants. All right, we got Thinker for life who says sound is low. Serge. Well, that was the beginning of the show. I'm sure, I'm sure he fixed it. J Dirt Biker says the Godfather of Metal passed away on my 30th birthday. Insert meme of Bobby Hill sad with devil horns here. RIP Ozzy Rock in paradise. It is insane. The search volume on Ozzy Osbourne. I think Google Trends had him at like 10 million currently right now. Ozzy Osbourne trend. 10 million plus the second biggest trend. What do you guys think it is?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't even know.

[Tim Pool]

Any guesses on what a big trending story right now would be?

[Phil Labonte]

Donald Trump.

[Libby Ammons]

No, no, I have no idea.

[Tim Pool]

Mega dragonite with 100,000 searches.

[Libby Ammons]

I don't even know what that is.

[Tim Pool]

Pokemon.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

That's crazy. The top trend is Ozzy Osborne with 10 million plus. The second biggest trend is mega dragonite with 100,000. That's how impactful Ozzy was.

[Libby Ammons]

That's wild.

[Tim Pool]

Crazy. Roflo says Trump's growing some balls. Let's hope he'll actually be able to execute on getting Obama prosecuted in an unbiased federal court. Indeed. I don't know why Trump isn't rallying state level attorneys general to aid him in These efforts the way Democrats did. That's another thing that's really irksome to me. Um, you know, Ken Paxton, he's doing his thing. It's very easy right now for Trump to say there's moves we can't make, but you have the entire chessboard. You have. It's not just one king on the board. You've literally got every state and they do nothing.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. Yeah. Garrett Siegler actually put together A list of AGs on the state level who go after Hunter Biden after he was issued the presidential pardon. And none of. And he's personally reached out to these offices to let them know where they could go and criminally charge Hunter. And they did not do anything. Those are our Republicans.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. All right. Bill Dozer says the DNI under Trump's first admin had this info. Why is he head of the CIA now? It's all one big game, I guess. It's hard to believe, isn't it? True business social wins are bigger for a cohesive population than policy. But would like both. It's what I voted for. Time is right again. All right. Saint Miles says Mary Morgan is the oracle of Tim Cast, you know, because she thinks nothing ever happens.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Look, it's easy to be the oracle when Eric. It's easy. It's easy to be right when you're permanently answering the same with the same answer. Right. Like perma bears are permanently bears and they're right when. When bear things happen. Perma bulls are right when bull things happen. But it's always. If you always give the same answer, you're going to be right.

[Tim Pool]

Pike County Zombie Control says the Trump admin will postpone arresting high profile individuals until December or January. That way he'll be too cold for their zombie hordes to go out and riot. Good point, actually. Additionally, right before Christmas is a really great time because everyone leaves the news cycle. So if the best time would. Literally the best time for the arrest, I would imagine would be the week of Thanksgiving or the week of Christmas because everyone's on vacation. And even though they may hear it happened, nobody is going to leave their Christmas to go and write up a story and generate a bunch of anger to get protester riots. And it'll seriously impede their ability to file any legal challenges as well. So maybe there will be a Christmas present.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, fingers crossed.

[Tim Pool]

What if Trump dressed up like Santa and then made a video where he, like, gets out of a. Gets out of the beast with a bunch of FBI agents like from other vehicles and they run to Obama's house and he's like, merry Christmas, everybody. And then you see Trump, Obama being like, out of here and he's getting arrested.

[Phil Labonte]

I love it.

[Tim Pool]

Can someone make an AI video of that?

[Brianna Morello]

I say it probably is already being made right now.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Over the road, USA says, Tim, please help us. In Minnesota, our new mayoral candidate, Omar Fateh is worse than the New York candidate. He says the biggest threat to America is white people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, wow, good luck. That's what the left says, though. This is nothing new. And it's not unique to Omar. This is just the way that the left has been, you know, portraying white people forever. And it's a big part of the reason why, like, the Democrats have such a problem with young white men. This is the narrative they've been running for 15, 20 years now, and men have essentially exodus from the Democrat Party and they're going to feel it.

[Brianna Morello]

No, no, no. What's the rebuttal, though, on the right when it comes to this stuff? Because nobody's really talking back to these voters. I mean, the reality is, is the massive amount of people in that district, I believe, are Somalian refugees, if I'm not mistaken, and why they flee Somalia to come here. And again, if we are the biggest threat, you could have stayed in your country.

[Phil Labonte]

They flee, they fleet Somalia to come here because of benefits, to destroy us. Well, I mean, I don't think that that's their actual intent when they, when they're over there. I think when they get here, they're like, oh, yeah, this, this is actually going to be beneficial for me if they, you know, ruin the country.

[Tim Pool]

They just made it Somalia.

[Phil Labonte]

Was that.

[Libby Ammons]

They just made it Somalia.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, they did.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to just point out, I remember when Trump, I remember where I was when they tried to kill Trump, when Trump dodged the bullets. I was at Potawatomi Bingo Casino as we were gearing up for the RNC shows. And we had just arrived, checked in and said, you know, let's go play some poker. And so I was at a poker table and here's the secret, right? Of course, y' all know that I like playing Texas hold', Em, but a lot of politicians go to the poker rooms and so it's a great place to find people. And sure enough, I was at a table with a couple Republican politicians, state level and. Or one. One guy in particular. Other guys had worked with lawyers and stuff. When the, when. When my phone's blowing up and I look and I see the video. By the time I got notified because of how serious this was. No one knew if Trump survived. All they knew was that the live stream went out and Trump went down. And so my phone's blowing up. I pick it up, I go on X and I'm. I'm watching clips. And it's before anyone had posted videos of Trump getting back up.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

As soon as the shots rang out, news articles were writing, Trump Falls after loud noises. I looked around once it was confirmed it was an assassination attempt, and Trump was bleeding, and those are gunshots, and people had been shot. No one in the casino flinched. No TV changed, no announcements were made. And I was thinking, like, am I wrong to assume that in the past, if something like this would have happened, they would have made an announcement like, ladies and gentlemen, an attempt as has been made on Donald Trump's life.

[Libby Ammons]

Do you think they would have said something if, you know, the worst had happened?

[Tim Pool]

No. And that's the point, that the casino didn't care to inform the people because they don't think it mattered to them. And so I went to a restaurant. Like, we were. We were hanging out. We're like, we're at dinner, and I was asking, you know, like, so the server, the host is there and, like, tables like, hey, did you hear that someone just tried to assassinate Trump? They went, no. And I'm like, this is insane to me.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so I bring this up because the title of this video is Trump Just of the show. Trump just accused Obama of treason, calls for criminal charges, and people care more about Ozzy Osborne. Now, with all due respect to Ozzy Osborne, I do understand. My point is, you'd think that if a sitting president accused. Accused his predecessor of committing treason against the United States and call on national television to the press saying the former President Obama has committed treason against this country and should be prosecuted and jailed, that is an insane historical precedent that no one cares about.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah. And it is interesting, too, because in presidencies, past presidents didn't speak out about past presidents negatively, and past presidents didn't tend to weigh in. George Bush did not really weigh in on Obama. And when he was asked about, what do you think of Obama's this and that, he said, you know, it's not my job to weigh in on the current president. And that was sort of the standard. People didn't do that. Even, you know, even Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon. He was just like, we're gonna move past this now. We're not going to dwell on this.

[Tim Pool]

You know, what Trump should do when they start Gearing up for primary season. They should copy Crossfire Hurricane verbatim in every way. Take the documents in the Obama administration, copy them one for one and apply them to the Democrat who's running. And then if ever they're like, look what Trump is doing. They'll be alike. Hey, nothing's wrong with what we're doing. It's identical to what they did, right? In every single way. There you go. No one can complain, right? Democrats all agree it's, it's legal.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, no, no. They definitely would complain. They definitely will complain. It doesn't matter what you know, it doesn't matter what the right does. If, if the right does it, it's bad. And if the left does it, it's fine.

[Tim Pool]

I identify as tax exempt. Says the, the no tax on overtime in the must pass bill sucks. It caps at 12,000 and your base is still taxed even in overtime hours. The only thing not taxed is the half pay added to your base pay.

[Libby Ammons]

Wow, that is bogus. The entire overtime pay should be tax free and it should be tax free no matter what. Wow, how much you make of that a year? That's. That's bogus.

[Tim Pool]

That is very bogus.

[Libby Ammons]

So that's trash.

[Phil Labonte]

Just, just don't report. No, I don't. I can't say that. I can't say that.

[Libby Ammons]

Get paid in cash. It should be illegal to refuse to pay someone in cash.

[Tim Pool]

Shergol says silent generation is currently at 23 million boomers 66.9, Gen X 65.6, Gen Y, aka millennial 72, Gen Z 68 and Gen Alpha 38.5. Now you got to understand that the reason why Gen X, boomer and silent are lower is because they're, they're dying. And yeah, I lost like five friends.

[Libby Ammons]

Just in my 20s alone.

[Tim Pool]

Right. So the younger generation is usually, usually much, much bigger because young, young people are alive. People have, were having two to three kids and the kids were living. And then once you get into your 40s is when mortality starts to increase. You'll see more and more of it then your 50s, 60s, 70s. Obviously it goes, it's the mortality cliff they call it around 70. Everyone around you starts dying rapidly for obvious reasons. It's life expectancy. Yep. Aussie Brad says the exact thing has happened in Australia. Average home in Sydney is 1.2 million. The younger generation can't buy or rent because of foreign investors and high immigration.

[Phil Labonte]

I, I don't understand how like the, the politicians and the people that, that are in, you know, positions of authority don't see this as, as a problem.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, some of them do see it as a problem and they don't get elected. Like Pierre Polyev in Canada was running basically on a platform of Trudeau sucks. And we need our young people to be able to afford homes.

[Phil Labonte]

And they're not enough young people to outvote the old people.

[Libby Ammons]

And they voted for Mark Carney anyway.

[Phil Labonte]

So you just have to wait for the old people to kick off, I guess.

[Brianna Morello]

Well, help. Sorry, it doesn't help because Republicans are constantly like in Florida for an example, they just allow and I was screaming about this during the pandemic because they just allowed rent prices to skyrocket without any type of good control or because like normally.

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[Brianna Morello]

I think New York, it's a couple of percentage points is how much you could rise.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, there's a, there's a tenant can. There's a like tenant landlord board.

[Phil Labonte]

Rent controls don't work, though you should actually what the solution is is to make sure that it's easier to build because rent controls only you drive up the prices. The your landlords don't do improvements. They don't fix things. You end up with all kinds of bad results when you try rent control. Rent controls have been tried multiple times in a bunch of different societies in different countries, and it just never works.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, what's interesting in New York is there's rent stabilization and landlords can apply to be part of the rent stabilization program, but you don't have to. But then what was interesting is you have this is totally in the weeds, but I'm just gonna go for it. So Michael Bloomberg had this program, 8020 housing, where it's 80% market rate and 20% like affordable housing and it has to be in the same building, but your amenities end up being different. And then Bill de Blasio came in and said, you can do 80 20, but it just has to be in the same zip code.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, God. Bill de Blasio was a terrible, really bad guy, terrible mayor.

[Tim Pool]

So, yeah, all right, we got Shalipi saying, rip Ozzy Osborne, another metal legend gone, but he will live on in memory. You know, why this matters so much is that Ozzy is of a time when culture was unified.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, that's right.

[Tim Pool]

So the story I've told recently, go to a bar and put Bohemian rhapsody on the jukebox and see what happens. Everyone knows the stupid words, everybody sings and then put on a modern song. And what happens?

[Libby Ammons]

Nobody.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody breaks apart and goes off in.

[Libby Ammons]

The corners again like that pink pony thing.

[Phil Labonte]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Libby Ammons]

Terrible.

[Tim Pool]

What do you think is the most popular song Ozzy ever made?

[Phil Labonte]

Mama I'm coming home or Crazy Train?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Crazy Train. Mom coming home. Yeah, Crazy Train.

[Phil Labonte]

Crazy train's huge.

[Tim Pool]

I wonder if you played Crazy train in a bar, people would sing along.

[Libby Ammons]

I don't know it.

[Tim Pool]

You don't know Crazy Train?

[Libby Ammons]

I probably know it.

[Tim Pool]

If you play it, you absolutely know Crazy Trainer.

[Libby Ammons]

It's like that thing you were talking about with TV episodes. The only TV episode names I know are from friends and that's because they're only all called the one where let's.

[Brianna Morello]

Talk filled up movies.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah, of course. Crazy train is his most, most streamed song. There's a collab with post Malone and Travis Scott called take what you want, released in 2019. That is street that has more streams than Crazy Train. But the most streamed song is. Is Crazy train.

[Libby Ammons]

I didn't know it had a name.

[Unknown]

What?

[Libby Ammons]

I didn't know it had a name.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, really?

[Brianna Morello]

You didn't know? His last performance was so great, though. I know a lot of people are very critical, but the.

[Phil Labonte]

You know the worst thing about the reaction online?

[Tim Pool]

All the.

[Phil Labonte]

Lest all the garbage effing commies are hating on Ozzy because he was a Zionist. I can't stand communist. Not stand communists. They're the worst. Yeah, they're all complaining, oh, he was a Zionist. Well, you know what? Shut your face.

[Tim Pool]

Dreamer is his biggest video on YouTube, followed by my mom coming home, then no more tears, then Mr. Crowley, then crazy train.

[Brianna Morello]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. Dreamer.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not even familiar with that song.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, man. You know, I. We were much better off as a country when we had a shared culture.

[Phil Labonte]

It's true.

[Libby Ammons]

That's right. But we also had the mechanisms to have a shared culture. And now we have the mechanisms to be divided.

[Tim Pool]

Trump should mandate by executive order a sitcom starring him because everybody already loved watching him and we all know it. And then by law, force Americans to tune in. Oh, we can use the presidential alert systems that every phone starts playing automatically. Automatically.

[Libby Ammons]

Like Ray Bradbury's nightmare at all.

[Phil Labonte]

No, this is. I Mean, this is as much as, you know, it seems odd, but this is exactly why I am for making sure that we have the English as the. The national language, like, actually enshrined in law, and then stop producing government materials in any other language aside from English. Stop doing it if you're obviously. Well, not obviously, but I'm not really for preventing private companies and stuff from producing things in other languages. But we should do everything we can to make sure that everybody speaks English. Schools shouldn't teach in other languages. You should learn English. And the reason is because we need a unit. We need a unified country. It's part of assimilation. And also, like, when you think in a certain language, there are certain concepts that are only. That only make sense in a certain language. So everyone in America should at least be able to speak English.

[Libby Ammons]

You know what was interesting is my son did his confirmation study this year, and he was confirmed in our church. And I was at a parents meeting where one of the parents who spoke Spanish asked the deacon if they could do the catechism lessons in Spanish. And the deacon was like, no, we teach these lessons in English. And she said, well, you know, she learns most of her faith in Spanish. And the deacon was like, well, now she's going to learn it in English.

[Phil Labonte]

Catholic church English or Latin. That's it.

[Libby Ammons]

He was like, we are together. This is one parish. We're not dividing it up.

[Tim Pool]

Sue Enrod says, RIP Ozzy. Every time a musician dies, Keith Richards experience experiences the Quickening.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Keith Richards is actually 73 years younger today.

[Tim Pool]

Can I. Can I. We need. We need to reference this.

[Phil Labonte]

If you don't know what the Quickening in is, you need to watch Highlander.

[Tim Pool]

It's a Quickening. Here we go. This is important context for everybody who's not from this time. Quickening. Sam. There can be only one.

[Phil Labonte]

Great reference. What a good movie, too.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. It takes a long time to get to it, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Does. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go back to when movies were like this.

[Libby Ammons]

I'm. I'm down with that.

[Tim Pool]

What you say.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The Quickening. It's also real. Very. I know everything. I love this part.

[Brianna Morello]

My favorite part.

[Phil Labonte]

Didn't get better than me. Satisfying, I think. Watch High School Forever ago.

[Tim Pool]

And there you go. Now. Now everybody who's never seen Highlander knows what the Quickening is.

[Libby Ammons]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Good reference. All right. Bach. Bach. Buach says, my best friend died yesterday morning. Christian father, patriot, chicken wrangler, and a fan. If anyone would like to help his family, go fund me. Handled by his Church help Nathan Bobeck's family through cancer battle. Sad to hear it, man. Sad to hear it. Wish you guys the best. Hope it works out.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, it's terrible.

[Tim Pool]

Raise some money. Worthless. Says Secret Service guarded Mar A Lago. FBI had shoot to kill to use against loyal Secret Service agents who were later culled from the service. Why they were so easily able to set him. Set him up for assassination.

[Brianna Morello]

The documents that were dumped that alleged that also had three on three different pages had that the FBI did communicate with Secret Service prior to getting on to Mar A Lago, getting onto the property.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brianna Morello]

So there was a little bit of communication back and forth between both agents.

[Tim Pool]

It's just the idea that. That with that communication you don't need anyone to bring weapons.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You literally just like, hey, we're coming on by and got a warrant or whatever.

[Brianna Morello]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Rodney says what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Obama and his sycophants must be brought to justice or the bad guys win. Yes.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. You're not gonna find any argument with us.

[Tim Pool]

Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Says, I spend the day outside putting up trail cams in our beautiful West Virginia woods, then come home to get angry over this BS of weak Republicans and terrible Dems. You know, they said, take it day by day. You know what I mean? What did Muhammad Ali say? Don't count the days, make the days count.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go, man.

[Tim Pool]

You got to get out there every day and do what you can. Don't let the day pass you by. We got up super early a couple weeks ago. We. We went to topgolf the moment they opened and it was totally worth it. The. One of the most frustrating things ever is just how lazy everyone everywhere is always. Because they're always like, I'll be there at 1. And I'm like, no, no, we. I wake up at 7am okay. I'm getting up at 7am as soon as light is shining through the I awake and I could sleep for I go to bed at 5am I'm waking up at 7. Everybody else is like, I'm sleeping in. And I'm like, I don't know how people do it.

[Brianna Morello]

Yeah. I'm up at 4am every single day. And it's 4. Yeah. Because I do an audio only news update, but I don't know how people sleep in. I don't know what that term even means. Today was my sleeping day and I was still up at 5.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, I never have that. I don't have that problem sleeping in. No, I wake up at. I wake up at like 6:30 or 7. But if I know I don't have to, like, usually I'm up around 6:30 or so. But if I know I don't have to, I'm perfectly comfortable sleeping until 9:30 or 10. No issues.

[Tim Pool]

On the days that we actually get people rallied up early in the morning, it feels like three weekends in one. Like, we went top. We went to topgolf. Then we went to Barcelona and Reston. One of the best restaurants ever. I recommend it. It's tapas. It's just. It's insanely delicious. They just dump olive oil all over the table. It's amazing. And then we went bowling in the arcade at the mall and then we went and got coffees and then went to the casino and it was just like. Man, it was like three weekends in one. When you get up early. Yeah, but normally everybody's like, I'm not getting up till late. So I just play Zelda or something.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brianna Morello]

You get so much at. The older I get, the more I turn into my parents. My parents would always be like the first one at the supermarket when it opens. They're like, oh, there's no line. This is incredible. And now I'm like right there waiting in the Costco parking lot for them to open the door.

[Libby Ammons]

You know what's fun is being the last person in the grocery store and everyone's looking at you like, why are you still here? Just leave. That's fun to just leave. Just leave. Just take it.

[Tim Pool]

Druid Arrow. Druidaro says, I agree illegal immigrants should not be able to vote. However, our Constitution states that they are counted as three fifths. Read the three fifths clause.

[Phil Labonte]

No, that is not the case, my friend. That is not the case.

[Brianna Morello]

That was Mark Elias.

[Phil Labonte]

I can't figure out if that's a serious thing or not, if they're serious or not, but you're wrong. Jeez, that's ridiculous.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Where is it? I'm trying to find the actual writing with of a three fifths compromise.

[Libby Ammons]

The three first compromise was the north saying, you can only allow your enslaved persons to count for three fifths, fifths of a person. Otherwise you will have too much representation. It will be outsized compared to what your citizenry actually is. So the north was arguing that people who were enslaved in the south should not count toward the House of Representatives. And the south was saying they should count fully. So the three fifths was a compromise made so that the south got a little. And the north got A little. But basically the north was saying that the enslaved people should not count at all.

[Phil Labonte]

Slave people that can't vote.

[Tim Pool]

Let's see.

[Libby Ammons]

Just like. Yeah. Which.

[Tim Pool]

So Article one, Section two, clause three, representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among several states which may be included within this union according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed. 3/5 of all other persons. They're correct.

[Libby Ammons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The. The three fifths clause includes illegal immigrants.

[Libby Ammons]

Oh, did it? Including illegal immigrants. I'm reading people who are taxed.

[Tim Pool]

No, it says all other persons.

[Brianna Morello]

Right.

[Libby Ammons]

All other persons. And it includes Indians. Because Indians were not taxed.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. Representatives and direct taxes will be apportioned among the several cities. Interesting. So shouldn't the census have the citizenship question for the purpose of the Constitution, stating illegal immigration only count three fifths? That's insane.

[Phil Labonte]

It absolutely should. It shouldn't. It should only be citizens. It shouldn't be just people that are in the. In the country.

[Libby Ammons]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, the idea that, oh, there are people there that. So they count towards representation. Well, they're not voting. And they're not. If they're not American citizens, they're not technically under the jurisdiction of the United States, so.

[Libby Ammons]

But they are being taxed.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. It's in the Constitution.

[Libby Ammons]

But also, at that time, was there an issue of illegal immigration? Was this a thing?

[Tim Pool]

Nope.

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Tim Pool]

So because you couldn't vote unless you own property.

[Libby Ammons]

Right. So you couldn't vote unless you own property. But if they weren't struggling with illegal immigration at the time, I think this would be a new question for the Supreme Court.

[Tim Pool]

The north wanted to exclude slaves and the south wanted to include slaves.

[Libby Ammons]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

Since slaves had no voting rights, a compromise was struck to resolve the impasse. Three fifths of each state's slave population toward that state's total population for the purpose of apportioning House of Representatives, effectively giving the Southern states more power in the House relative to the Northern states. It also gave slaveholders similarly enlarged powers in Southern legislatures. It was an issue in the secession of West Virginia. In The Constitution, the three fifths compromise is part of Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3, which states all other persons will count towards three fifths. So that. That is correct. It does count illegal immigrants.

[Libby Ammons]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

There you go. So because I was saying that the Democrats would basically try and pull a three fifths compromise with illegal immigrants, I was wrong. They don't need to. It's already in the Constitution.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And that's the funny thing about the Constitution. How many conservatives are going to be like, wait a minute, what? That's right. Illegal immigrants count three fifths. So the only real issue at play right now is that they're counting them for one whole person towards apportionment instead of three fifths. Maybe Trump could do that and strip them of at least 2/5 of their power.

[Libby Ammons]

Well, I think that would definitely end up at the Supreme Court. But what would be interesting, too, was you would suddenly have the left saying, donald Trump thinks illegal immigrants are, you know, akin to people who are slaves, enslaved. Meanwhile, the Democrats would be the ones treating illegal immigrants like they are slaves.

[Tim Pool]

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