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Trump Just FROZE ALL Ukraine Aid After Zelenskyy SCREWED Negotiations w/Viva Frei
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Trump Just FROZE ALL Ukraine Aid After Zelenskyy SCREWED Negotiations w/Viva Frei
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Shane Cashman
I'm ready for my life to change.
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Tim Pool
Abc Sunday, American Idol returns. Give it your all. Good luck. Come out with a golden ticket. Let's hear it. This is immense world.
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Viva Fry
I've never seen anything like it. And a new chapter begins.
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Phil Labonte
You're going to Hollywood.
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Tim Pool
Carrie Underwood joins Lionel Richie, Luke Bryant and Ryan Seacrest on American Idol. Season premieres Sunday, 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu. Donald Trump has just suspended all military aid to Ukraine. Holy crap. This news is breaking right now. I'm sure Zelensky really does regret trying to talk over the President of the United States last Friday. And the weirdest thing out of the whole scandal involving Vladimir Zelensky of Ukraine in the White House in the Oval Office, was that Democrats were defending Ukraine. It's just the weirdest thing to be like, bro, you don't even know where it is on a map. Why are you defending it? They come with every reason, but there's only one they hate Donald Trump. That's it. Because Donald Trump and J.D. vance brought up really good points. What are we getting for our involvement in this war that you can't win? You've got no manpower. You're losing badly. He had no good answer. Now I'm seeing. You know what I love the most about this is the liberals, the progressives, who I don't know only 10 years ago were claiming the military industrial complex is a bad thing now cheering for another hundred billion dollars being sent to Ukraine. And they, they don't know why. They can't give a good honest reason. I've been watching some of these debates from these pro Ukraine war people, and they lie about everything. My favorite is when they're like, if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, he'll take Poland. Kiningrad is already north of Poland, heavily, heavily militarized. Plus Belarus is an ally of Russia. They're lying. I'm going to rant if I keep going. We got more stories, my friends. We've got more stories. There's a crazy one that I'm. That we'll come to later. Popular streamer. And I guess. I guess you could only fans personality, whatever. Amaranth. Someone tried to steal 200 Bitcoin 2011 Bitcoin from her. And I guess she shot some of these. It's a crazy story. She's a. She's a very prominent Internet personality. And this story's breaking. We'll talk about that then. Ladies and gentlemen, the head of the FBI office in New York says he was forced to resign. This is the guy who's in charge of the office that allegedly was covering up the Epstein documents. So we got a doozy of a bunch of stories here. We've got European nations pledging to deploy troops into Ukraine. If there is a deal, which makes literally no sense. They're just saying we're getting our troops ready. We got a lot to talk about, my friends, before we do. Of course, Cast Brew. We got K cups. You know, you go to cast brew.com, you scroll down, you can get your little K pods. A lot of people have been asking for these. They exist. Indeed. We even got Sleepy Joe decaf and unwoke decaf. Those are pretty good. I know Joe's not present anymore, but Sleepy Joe is still funny, so you should buy it. And then, of course, Appalachian Nights, Ian's graphine dream will be in stock soon. And as always, we're gonna have the uncensored members only call in show coming up tonight at 10. So go to Timcast premium.com that will redirect you. To sign up for Rumble Premium, use promo code TIM10. Also check out@rumble.com Timcast IRL, our green room behind the scenes show. We're having fun hanging out with Viva earlier and we were fingerboarding, as we often do. It's right. He was learning.
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Viva Fry
It sounds very, very gross. Would you say fingerboarding? But yes, Tim is very talented with his fingers.
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Tim Pool
It's indeed I am. Oh, that was dirty. But family, I'm gonna say this. We've got some stories that before the show, we were all like, okay, we're gonna have to save this one from the uncensored portion because, you know, some of this stuff gets a little. Gets a little dirty. So I'm gonna tell you, not dirty, but like, yo, let me just say this. We're gonna. We're gonna cover the amaranth story to the. The best factual ability we can. We'll try and keep it family friendly. But for the more serious video and stuff like that, we don't want to show that. We'll keep that to the not so family friendly portion. A lot of people might have their kids in the room. There's video and she was apparently she. She was struck and things like that. So we're going to save that for the uncensored portion. Smash that, like, button. My friends share the show right now. If everybody took that URL right now, copied, pasted, it blasted off on social media, this would be the biggest show in the world. If you think we do a good job, if you like the show, and you really do watch and appreciate it, then please consider sharing it with all your friends. Word of mouth really does help. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. We got Viva Fry.
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Viva Fry
Or is it Frey Aviva Fry, last name Fry Height. Yeah, we were joking around that it started off as a very quiet news day. And then within the 30 minutes in the green room, a few stories blew up. The video of Amaranth, though it's of the incident, not of her onlyfans, right? That would be for the after after party, yes, but a bing, bada boom. I'm out of here.
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Tim Pool
You can leave now. All right. Who are you? What do you do?
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Viva Fry
David Frihe, former litigator turned current Florida rumbler. Got the podcast Viva Fry, a great locals community. Vivabarnslaw.locals.com Daily podcast at 1230 Car Vlogs where I get into my car and rant and rave about what's going on in the world. And that about sums it up.
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Tim Pool
Right on. Thanks for hanging out. Shane's here.
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Shane Cashman
Hey there. I am the host of Inverted World Live. Last night I talked to a lady who claimed to be abducted by aliens at the age of five and they took her soul. Phil. And then at the hour and a half Mark, Andrew Cuomo called in to talk about his run for mayor in New York City. So check it out. We're on YouTube and rumble every Sunday at 6:00. How are you?
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Phil Labonte
What do they do with her soul?
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Shane Cashman
They took it and gave it to someone else and gave her a new one. Oh, according to her.
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Phil Labonte
So doesn't it. Wouldn't that make you a different person?
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Shane Cashman
Totally different person. Yeah, I talked about that.
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Phil Labonte
Good. Good to know. I'm Phil. I'm Phil Abonti, the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's go.
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Tim Pool
Ladies and gentlemen, from the post millennial Donald Trump. I would like to say thank you, Mr. President. This is exactly what I voted for. And that is not a joke nor an understatement. President Trump pauses all military aid to Ukraine. The pause will continue until Trump determines that the Ukrainians show a commitment of good faith peace negotiations. This is absolutely incredible News. I am 100% opposed to our involvement in Ukraine. It is a lie. It is. It is illegitimate. Let me give you some of the news before I rant on this one. President Trump has stopped all military aid to Ukraine following last week's clash with with Vladimir Zelensky. The pause will continue until they show Good faith. The move comes after Zelensky said the end of the war with Russia was still very, very far away. Per the New York Post, Zelensky left the White House at 1:42pm A scheduled press conference that was set to take place between the two leaders later Thursday was canceled. The two leaders had been set to sign a rare earth minerals deal Friday. The deal was not signed. Trump wrote following the meeting. With a very meaningful meeting in the White House today, much was learned that could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure. It's amazing what comes out through emotion. And I've determined that President Zelensky is not ready for peace if America is involved because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations. I don't want advantage. I want peace. He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for peace. Standing ovate. Bravo. I am, I am so impressed by Donald Trump's leadership on this one, I, I'd have done the exact same thing myself. You come to me and ask me for what? Okay, the analogy I made, you know, this morning on my morning show is, your cat is dying. And so you come to me and tell me I have to spend the money to save your cat's life. And it's like, okay, well, I would like to. I don't want to see your cat get sick. And then you start interrupting me, talking over me, insulting me, telling me it's my problem and I'm going to get out of my house. And this is exactly what Trump did. And this is the message that needs to be sent to people of the world. No more handouts.
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Viva Fry
He shows up. I won't say he's dressed like a bum, but Trump made the joke, oh, you dressed up for the meeting. And I couldn't tell if it was tongue in cheek because he's wearing a long sleeve camo fatigue and not a short sleeve shows up wearing his costume, that he's been playing this character for the longest time. And then at one point during that meeting, the clip that went viral with JD Vance, where he says, like, you guys don't feel the Russian pressure because you have a big, beautiful ocean, but you'll feel the pressure if you stop supporting us. I didn't just listen to that and hear it as an insult. I heard it as a direct threat. That. And then I didn't piece it together. Like, we're forgetting that. How many months ago did that nutcase Ruth try to take out President Trump, they had one of their. Yeah, they had a Ukrainian zealot who tried to take Trump out. And though the rest of us forgotten about it, obviously Trump had not. And so it's about time. I love the idea that he's going to say, you're not ready for peace yet, so we're going to stop all military support. That will butter you up for peace real fast.
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Tim Pool
This is, this is the thing. Zelensky and Trump is right. Zelensky's attitude is if the US Does a deal, then we have leverage. And Trump is like, no, no, no, no, no, the deal is not about you, Zelensky. The deal is us saying no more war. But Zelensky is trying to leverage U.S. involvement to maintain conflict with, with Putin and with Russia, for which why are we involved? A gas deal largely. And men. There was a, there was on the Will Kaine show today, he had a couple individuals, he had Shaun Davis, another guy, and they were talking about why this fighting is happening. And I forget who the other guy was. So forgive me, cuz it's important. His points were awful. He said Putin doesn't care about NATO. Finland joins, he doesn't care about NATO. And Sean Davis says no, he cares about which country joins NATO. And Ukraine joining NATO would cut Russia off from Crimea and the Black Sea fleet, where they transport goods to the Mediterranean and through the Red Sea, through the Sinai Peninsula, or, I'm sorry, the Sinai Canal into the, the Arabian Sea and all these things that would cut off Russia from half the world. So Russia was not going to let that happen. The other guy responds with you, Ukraine's no threat to Russia. And it's like they have no answer. They have no answer. We shouldn't be involved in this. This is just NATO expansionism. And it's a major, it makes no sense. But let me tell you, I'll say one more thing because I know I'm ranting on this. I'm. Foreign policy gets me going. I said, I think it was like last year or whatever that Ukraine is an enemy of this country. And boy, did the Democrats just start vomiting on themselves playing this clip over and over again saying Tim Pool works for Russia, blah, blah, blah. I stand by exactly what I said and I will say it again. Ukraine is an enemy of this country. And I'll tell you exactly why. Germany charged a Ukrainian individual with bombing the Nord Stream pipeline that was blamed on Russia. They blew up their own pipeline. As long as nobody knew who it was, that bombing, should it have actually been a Ukrainian? And we believe it was, it was. It's that. That's the. That's largely what people believe. Ukraine bombed this or Ukrainian individuals of the direction of. Of. Of the west or whatever. That's the kind of attack that could escalate us into World War Three. Zelensky has made himself clear in these meetings and every meeting that the US will feel pain unless they get what they want. That is not an ally, an ally comes to you and says, please, sir, we beg of you, support us. He says, you got a notion, you're going to feel the pain. And then it's Ukraine accused of bombing Nord Stream by Germany.
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Viva Fry
You remember when Ukraine accidentally killed the two Polish farmers, tried to blame it on Russia to invoke Article 5 by saying that a member of NATO now has suffered an attack. They're trying to get the war, the world into a world war.
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Tim Pool
That's right. And they. And it was Ukraine that murdered Gonzalo Lira.
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Shane Cashman
Right.
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Tim Pool
Ukraine has not been treating America. This was a Chilean, American journalist murdered by Zelensky's government. They're accused by Germany. Germany's not Russia. Germany is a NATO ally of ours. Who has charged Ukraine with bombing the Nord Stream pipeline. Ukraine is trying to force the United States into a war which will kill millions of people.
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Phil Labonte
The whole point of the whole end that Zelensky was after when he was in the meeting was to get security guarantees. And by guarantees, he wants Americans, American military in Ukraine. And he essentially was getting 90% of what he wanted. Right. He was going to have Americans. There would have been American businesses in Ukraine with the deal that they were looking for. And he. That wasn't good enough for him. He wanted to have, like, guarantees. Not assurances, guarantees. I guess there's the. The language matters a little bit. If you have security assurances, it's one thing. If you have a security guarantee, there are certain other things that are expected when it comes to international law. And so he was looking to get the United States to say, okay, we'll give you guarantees. And it was bad form to do it in that. In that, that. In the Oval Office in front of the press. You do those kind of negotiations behind closed doors. So you can swear at each other, you can get mad, you can do the kind of things that happened in public, and you can do it without the repercussions of having the press watch.
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Shane Cashman
He's an actor. Well, he is body language in this picture. And what he's selling to the public.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah, 100%. And he was also. He'd been, I guess, he'd been coached by Democrats, which is beyond the pale. The idea that because Chris Murphy was.
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Tim Pool
Talking, I heard that he met with Republicans and Democrats.
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Phil Labonte
Okay, so fair enough.
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Shane Cashman
But he also could mean pro replicants, like a bunch of runs there, Neo, you know, pro war Republicans.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah, but I mean, the whole meeting with Trump was an absolute debacle. And it had. It was not because of Trump or the administration. Trump was giving him 90% of what he wanted. This was just supposed to be a grip and rip, like just shake hands, you know, have a little, you know, of course Trump is going to go ahead and have a little banter and, and kind of poop on him because he had done things to endorse Joe Biden and the Biden administration. So you knew that there was animosity there, but it was going to be a generally friendly interaction. And Zelensky didn't want.
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Tim Pool
I wonder how much of what Zelensky did was on purpose to prolong the war. We know that there have been attempts at peace deals the whole time, and we know Zelensky is the main obstacle. He does not want any kind of negotiated resolution. We hear from Europe with them saying, you know, Ukraine will have a seat at these negotiations, but Ukraine has nothing to do with it. Ukraine is the battlefield between NATO and Russia. Russia wants access to Crimea and the Black Sea. The west wants to control NATO and shut down their Gazprom gas monopoly and their access to the Black Sea so they can control gas prices. Ukraine is irrelevant here. I wonder if Zelensky did that all on purpose, knowing it would result in a collapse of peace deals so he can prolong the war. That's his plan. Because you have to understand, Zelensky, with the cameras in front of him, knew that if he insulted Donald Trump on camera, Trump would respond publicly. Because Trump's not going to let that slide. He's going to say, you insult me on tv, I insult you on tv.
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Viva Fry
I don't think he did it on purpose because I think it brings about the end game a lot quicker. All the other countries can piss and moan all they want in Canada can say, we're going to stay loyal and let's join up with Britain. They can't do it without America. I do say Zelensky is going to go down as being like the modern day Yasser Arafat, where it's going to become clear that he never wanted an actual peace settlement out of this. What he asked for by way of the settlement was nukes in NATO, which is exactly what started, you know this conflict in the first place, but I think now he's in like total self preservation mode because it's one thing that this war is going to end the way it's going to end. And then what the heck is he going to do afterwards? Because he's going to be Persona non grata in his own country for our sake.
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Shane Cashman
I'm glad he did it just because we experienced a national catharsis when JD And Trump tag teamed him. It was amazing.
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Tim Pool
But Democrats have been defending Zelensky.
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Viva Fry
Yeah, we live in two different realities. What's the guy that just said it was? I accused him of sedition. It was a journalist. He says, that's why I stand with Zelensky and against Donald Trump. Then move to frickin Ukraine. These idiots who are pledging their allegiance to Zelensky. For the decade prior to this war, Ukraine was a known corrupt hellhole. Its number one export was human trafficking. It had a Nazi problem that they all knew about for the longest times. You can still go, they haven't memory hold all of it on Twitter. And then, and then all of a sudden you can't talk about this.
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Tim Pool
You know. You know what I think is another big factor here is, you know, Zelensky got that Vogue cover, right? It was on the COVID with his wife or whatever. You know, when this war ends, he's nobody, he's nothing. That's it.
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Shane Cashman
He'll probably sign with CAA the same place Biden.
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Tim Pool
I mean, in all seriousness, yeah, he probably will. But right now he is enjoying the principal conflict is about him. And he gets to, you know, you know what it is, man? You know what I'm thinking? How much you want to bet Zelensky was like, what do I do after this war? We're losing, Ukraine's lost. Where do I go? Right? The Russians are going to come in, Ukrainian forces are routed. He'll be removed from power. Here's what he does. He insults Donald Trump on TV and argues with him. And now he's going to have a free press tour among Democrats for life in the United States.
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Shane Cashman
Yeah, guaranteed.
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Tim Pool
He's going to say, I stood up to your, your president because he was wrong. And they're going to clap and cheer for him for no other reason than they hate Donald Trump.
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Shane Cashman
That's what the left sees me. I mocked him the other day. I posted the Time for the Time magazine cover of Trump yelling at the little baby who was crying, saying, that's Trump and Zelensky. And I had friends reach out to me saying You've lost your humanity. Like, this is their new George Floyd where they see Ukraine, like they can't take anyone mocking Zelensky. And they saw, in this meeting, they saw a hero stand up to a tyrant.
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Phil Labonte
It's really ridiculous too because the whole situation is just Donald Trump is doing this. So I'm against it. There's no thought put into it. There's no. There even people that watch the whole interview, the whole, the whole presser or whatever, where it's pretty obvious that it was not Donald Trump being this bad guy, right? Like, Donald Trump was trying to talk it, talk it down the whole 30 minutes or the first 30, 35 minutes. And then it escalated at the end. There are people that, you know, people that I know that, that are like, oh, it doesn't matter. It was still Donald Trump's fault. And it's like, then there are other people that are like explicitly anti Trump. Right. Clearly that you can look at their history. I think his name is Richard Hanania is. He's very, very anti Trump generally. But even he had a reasonable, honest take. He's like, no. After I watched the whole thing, it really was bad form by Zelensky. Constantine kissing also, same thing. Initially he had one impression because he saw the two minute clip. But then after watching the whole thing, he's like, no, you know, this is not how you prove it. And Constantine is a Ukrainian, I'm pretty sure.
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Shane Cashman
Yeah, I think so.
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Phil Labonte
He's Ukrainian or Russian. And like, he's got it.
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Tim Pool
He's.
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Phil Labonte
He's very pro Ukraine, very anti Russia. And he still was like, look, this was a bad deal.
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Viva Fry
You know, we got into not of a bit of a fight, but he didn't like some of the things that Robert Barnes had to say about his blind support for Ukraine. But I hadn't heard that he actually took a critical position. Good, good on him.
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Tim Pool
But what people are forgetting like a.
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Viva Fry
They'Re idiots because they think this conflict started in 2022, period. Bonafide idiots. They don't understand when it started. And they're idiots because they don't understand what is going on here. It's a money laundering, corrupt theft is what it.
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Phil Labonte
From the United States side, from the.
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Viva Fry
West side, I'd say from Ukraine's. Look at what Zelensky is worth now. Look at the properties he's been buying up. Look at who his military leaders have been, what they've been stealing from the monies that have been going out to them. It's. He says, like, we've only seen 100 billion of the 177 billion that was sent to us and we don't got stolen. I can get. It's a little bit of both, but it's definitely on their end. An article in Newsweek from January like going through the corruption. If they get caught, they get fired. Meanwhile everyone in the Ukrainian government is getting rich off of this. They've always been a corrupt country. There's no reason to be in there. Had they been fighting this out among themselves with no like big brother helping out the little brother, they would have figured out a solution 800,000 Ukrainian Russians.
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Tim Pool
Ago, they, they'd have lost instantly. There's no war. Russia walks in Ukraine, there's no war.
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Viva Fry
But Russia did. Russia did not ever as far as I'm concerned, want to take over all of Ukraine. The idea that they want to take over all of Ukraine and then all of Europe. So 150 million people are going to take over 750 million people. It was nonsense. It's about the eastern, Eastern province, the eastern territories. Zelensky was elected on a platform to negotiate a resolution with that reneged what he was told by Boris or whoever the hell else said, go and fight this war. We can all get rich and we can fight a proxy war against Russia.
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Phil Labonte
I disagree about that. I think if, if Russia, if Russia could have taken all of Ukraine, they would have, I don't think they would have gone into Poland. I don't think they would have gone after all of Europe. But I do think that they would have gone after all of Ukraine because of the history that they have and stuff. But that, like, I don't think that. I don't think he was looking to, to go into Poland. I don't think that he was looking to go into a NATO country because he doesn't want to fight NATO. Like that's a, that's a, it's a death. That's a, that's a suicide.
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Tim Pool
If.
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Viva Fry
Well, it's sure destruction.
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Tim Pool
If Russia loses the Black Sea, Russia ceases to exist. That's their access to North Africa, the Mediterranean and the Sinai Canal. Is it Sinai Canal, Right? Am I gonna, am I say it.
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Phil Labonte
Suez Canal.
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Tim Pool
Suez Canal. There you go.
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Viva Fry
I thought you were talking about Mount Sinai. So I didn't want to.
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Tim Pool
Peninsula. Yeah, right. It's the Suez Canal. My bad, my bad. And, and that gets them access to the Indian Ocean etc. It rips them from that part of the world completely. So it's a non starter. Let's, let's jump to the story from Politico more governments pledge to join UK and France in sending peacekeepers to Ukraine. Rude. A crossroads in history says UK Starmer. Some European leaders vow to increase defense spending. Now this, this story has been going viral and it's being framed as though the uk, France and other countries want to deploy troops right now and ignite World War three. That's not the case. What they're saying is in the event of a peace deal, they plan to send troops into Ukraine. So if there is some kind of peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine and the US and the west and whatever after that, then they'll send in troops, which is, they may as well be saying there will never be a peace deal. You don't say before your peace negotiations to Vladimir Putin. Imagine this. What does Putin want? We've mentioned he wants the land bridge from the Donbass region, Luhans, Donetsk, Mariupol, Zaporizhzhia, etc. Going down Ukraine into Crimea so we can secure and defend it and have land access. Otherwise there's just one bridge to the east of Crimea. Okay, Crimea is where their Black Sea fleet is based. Sevastopol, they have a major industrial port. Russia is not giving that up. They want land access to secure and defend that territory. Tell Russia right now, here's what we're going to do. Russia, we want to negotiate peace. The moment you turn around, we're going to send in troops from NATO. What do you think Putin's going to say? He's going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. No way. Russia wants to secure this territory. Right now, it's Russia versus Ukraine. They may as well, they may as well have said when France and the UK announced they will deploy troops into Ukraine upon a peace deal, they may have well have just said, don't do a deal with us, Putin. Don't do a deal to end the war. Because with this pledge, there is no way Putin's going to agree to a deal.
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Viva Fry
It just, it blows my. First of all, it's stupid because it's saying he was opposing NATO's expansion. And then after the peace settlement, you're going to have the very NATO expansion that started this conflict in the first place. Also, UK and France should be worrying about their own steaming hellholes of countries in Europe right now and not thinking about send troops into Marseille and send troops into region France and send troops into certain no go zones in the UK and deal with your, your sexual assault gangs before you start worrying about securing a peace or starting a war after you've secured a peace. So Doctor, heal thyself. But it's also stupid.
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Tim Pool
I believe that the moves they made here, like with Boris Johnson, their intention is to make it appear as though they want peace while doing everything they can to sabotage it. That's why Zelensky screams at Trump, I'm exaggerating. That's why he interrupts and cuts Trump off and insults and disrespects them. This is why they're pledging to send in troops. It basically tells Russia there will be no agreement. That's what they're saying.
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Shane Cashman
It seems like they're all mobilizing, just. It's like a way to stop Trump, you know, when they all kind of band together to support what Trump's perceived enemy. Because it reminds me of how Covid happened. They release a bioweapon to stop Trump. In my opinion, that's what I think happened.
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Viva Fry
I concur with.
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Shane Cashman
Thank you. Thank you. So I think this is just part two of that. You know, the way, like, they've turned all this into, like you were saying with. With Ukraine, where the money's going, it's like BLM getting the money, and they've got mansions with it. Right. All these people are profiting off of it. So that's all I see is just another way to get a Trump.
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Phil Labonte
I mean, I think that there's. There's absolutely. There are people that are motivated simply by a hatred of Trump. I do think. I mean, clearly, you know, Putin wants to take land from Ukraine. The Russians do. Look at.
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Shane Cashman
You gave us the whole history about it.
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Viva Fry
Yeah.
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Phil Labonte
You know, they do look at Ukraine as their territory.
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Tim Pool
Did you see that tweet? I think it was from Insurrection Barbie. She said, let me get this straight. Zelensky is a hero for putting Ukraine first, but Trump is a fascist for putting America first.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
It's got like, 30,000 retweets. Everyone's like, yep. So you've got Democrats are like, slava, Ukraine. And they don't care about America. They don't care about our borders. They don't care about our economy. You know what I really love? Let me. Let me. Let me. Let me show you this. Let me show you this. Let me pull up civics. I love civics data. National economy, current condition. Oh, they're. They're. They're so bent out of shape over this one. Here's the polling for the current account. Let's take a look at Democrats. How do Democrats view the. The economy right now? Well, right before Trump got inaugurated, literally, Trump gets elected, and 50%, 51% of the economy is fairly good. 22% say very good. Donald Trump is inaugurated, and then overnight, Democrats think the economy is bad.
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Viva Fry
Well, in fairness, he is doing a lot of cutting some federal jobs, and a lot of. A lot of those Democrats are federal employees. I just got to disagree on one thing.
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Tim Pool
I'm going to agree. I'm going to agree with that. But the polling view shifted within one week before Doge for everything. Democrats immediately just went, economy is bad.
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Viva Fry
Now, I don't think Zelinsky threw that hissy fit on purpose. I think he was just actually caught off guard by the change in tenor and tone of the treatment he's getting from the administration. He's used to having Josh Shapiro signing their bombs for him. Like, I don't know, I want to know what Josh Shapiro was writing on those warheads. And then a book, right? Yeah, it was long. And I'll just say all. I don't ever think it's appropriate to write messages on bombs. I mean, you're making light of weapons of war. But setting aside, I think he was genuinely caught off guard. He's used to people parading him like a hero, bringing him in front of Congress, signing his flag in American government buildings. And then he gets there and he's dressed down, literally. And then not say physically, but verbally afterwards. I think he was just seriously caught off guard.
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Tim Pool
Yeah, he was already dressed down physically.
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Viva Fry
Of his own doing, showing up in a fricking. Like a bump. I'll wear a suit if I ever get an invite to the White House.
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Tim Pool
No, no, no, Look, I got invited to the White House and I wore this. I wore my normal thing.
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Viva Fry
Son of a bitch.
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Shane Cashman
Were you negotiating a piece?
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Tim Pool
So they had the White House social media summit. I was the only one not wearing a suit. And my attitude very much was, what makes America great is that we are not beholden to wear suits when we go into public institutions. This is a country where a homeless man can look to the most powerful politician and tell him to go screw himself. Whereas in a lot of countries, you can't do this. Namely, like, Thailand with Les Majeste laws. That being said, when I was invited to meet the President, I went and bought a suit. I'm going to meet the President. I actually went. I kept the beanie, but that was only because I was in Palm Beach. And they were like, look, Donald, the President is here. He's got a bunch of people here. If you want to meet him, you got to wear a suit. That's how we do it. I said, you got it. We ran, we bought a suit, showed up, there's a picture of me wearing a suit. And they told me, actually, the beanies do go with the suits. Did you not?
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Phil Labonte
There you go.
- [27:47]
Tim Pool
And then the only other time, the most dressed up I've ever been, is my wedding, I wore a suit with no beanie.
- [27:52]
Shane Cashman
Nice.
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Viva Fry
Look at that.
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Tim Pool
That's right. The President. Mr. President, with all due respect, I appreciate your work, but I'm gonna wear the beanie. That being said, I'm kidding, largely. But the reason why Zelinsky dressing down was so offensive is that when he went to the World Economic Forum, he wore a suit.
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Shane Cashman
You don't think it's endearing that a tyrant dresses like Adam Sandler?
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Viva Fry
You realize, you realize what it's branding like. You realize he's been branded, sold, packaged, marketed to the American people. And so many have bought into this. Oh, he's such a rugged warrior. He wears that. Dude, you wear a frickin suit. People comparing him to Elon. Oh, Elon was a baseball. Elon is not the president of a foreign country coming to do international geopolitics. He's Doge. And everybody knows that.
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Tim Pool
So, so everybody knows that. I'm like a very anti suit kind of slovenly guy. When we were told by people who worked with Trump, like friends of ours who work in the Republican Party, Trump is here as a bunch of senators and prominent individuals, you can come, you must wear a suit. I said, yes, sir. And we went by one. Zelensky doesn't.
- [28:54]
Viva Fry
He had two buttons at least. So two steps up from his short.
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Tim Pool
I believe it was a reporter who called him out. Was it a reporter?
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Shane Cashman
There's a video, didn't say something.
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Viva Fry
The one I heard was Trump making the joke not once, but twice. Thanks for dressing up. I didn't hear anybody in the presser, but yeah, he's doing it on purpose. And it had worked. He had gotten praised for it, he'd gotten on the COVID of magazines, and now it's like dad's home. It's none of this, none of this idolatry crap. You better answer for what we're getting for the amount that we spend. You better account for where it's gone. And he can't. He won't, because he's been pocketing a good portion of it.
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Tim Pool
It is a fact that so, so let's, let's, let's debunk a bunch of liberal Democrat lies about this. The first is the money is not actually going to Ukraine. The Money is used to manufacture weapons. We then send old weapons to them to use. Basically, we're using this to pump up our. Our military and strengthen it and then sending them the weapons. Let me just stress. Excellent. Technically the truth. We are still giving our military weapons expertise, Special Forces intelligence to Ukraine, and we still spend money on it. I don't want the US Government to spend money on the military industrial complex. I don't know why Democrats are advocating for that. But the other thing that needs to be brought up, direct funds were sent to Ukrainian companies from the United States for the purpose of building fortifications. When the war broke out near Bryansk and Kursk, I think it was, Russians were invading from the Northeast, and lo and behold, Ukrainian forces were shocked to find none of the fortifications were actually built. The companies that were taking the money to build fortifications were fake shell companies that were stealing the US Dollars. And that is Ukraine under Zelinsky's watch. That is a fact. They try every which way to make up some stupid reason why Democrats are actually in the right to defend. My favorite. My favorite is they say an agreement was made that if Ukraine gave up its weapons, the United States would defend it in the event Russia invaded. First thing I say to that is, I'm around Paul Guy. He says, one generation cannot sign promise the youth the next generation. You can't do that. More importantly, however, the other agreement that was made was after the fall of East Germany, it was the United States that said NATO will not expand 1 inch eastward. So the argument that we now have to come to the defense of Ukraine because Russia has invaded an agreement despite the fact that we. It's not. None of these were treaties. These were like. It was like a memo saying, okay, in the event. And then you have the word. So I get someone tweeting at me saying, your country. What you're saying is your country is untrustworthy because you won't defend Ukraine. I'm like, well, I don't know. I think the expansion of NATO was untrustworthy too, which then instigates and escalates the conflict. And now you're telling us we have to go and fight because NATO wanted to be in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine. I'm not. I'm not here for that.
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Shane Cashman
These are a lot of treaties that we don't hold up to. You know, like, we don't use biological weapons anymore, but we still do.
- [32:06]
Tim Pool
And look, the white phosphorus.
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Shane Cashman
It's weird.
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Phil Labonte
The Budapest agreement wasn't a treaty. It wasn't ratified by the Senate. It wasn't an actual treaty. It doesn't have the force of a treaty. And in the Budapest agreement, the agreement is that Naito, like will, will intervene. And it's not saying that the United States alone is going to make sure that, that there's no aggression against the, against Ukraine. It was an agreement that I believe it said either NATO or the U.N. i forget because I don't have it in front of me. But it wasn't a guarantee of like the same type of guarantee that Article 5 of the, of the NATO charter is. That's why we don't want Ukraine in NATO. I think that there's a lot of countries, well, not a lot of countries, but there are a handful of countries that are very problematic being in NATO. I think Turkey being in NATO is very problematic nowadays.
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Tim Pool
I just. Why, why are progressives all of a sudden pro NATO?
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Phil Labonte
It's just because of Donald Trump.
- [33:05]
Shane Cashman
Exactly. It's all whatever Trump is like against, they're for and vice versa.
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Phil Labonte
Well, part, I think it's. It, I think it's mostly Donald Trump, but also I think a part of it is the fact that they're so pro establishment because they really did have control of the government. They had control of the bureaucracy. All the USAID money, all the money that went to progressive NGOs and all the money that went to progressive policies that were, that had been sent overseas, all of that money went through USAID and stuff. That was something that the progressives don't want to stop because that's part of why they were so influential, not just in the United States, but globally. So they don't want that to stop. So that's part of why they're, they're so pro bureaucracy. This is the left that used to be, you know, anti government and supposed to be, you know, against the man, etc. Once they became the man, they're, you.
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Shane Cashman
Know, they want, they used to want to defund the police, now they're crying over FBI.
- [33:59]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, but the thing is it's all, it was all, it was all a lie. It was all bs.
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Shane Cashman
They have no moral center.
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Phil Labonte
They were, that's true, but they were in a position of power. And just like any other group, they'll say that they're not, which is the Democrats line. They've been saying that they're for the working, working class and stuff for ages and ages. All while they've literally owned all of the bill, like all this, the impactful billionaires, except for a very few handful.
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Viva Fry
I say everyone loves freedom of speech until they're the ones in positions of power and others are using that freedom of speech to attack their position of power. Say the disloyal thing that NATO and the west might have done was overthrowing the President back in 2014 in the Maidan revolution. The other thing, when you understand what they're doing with these new additions, I think Finland was the second to most recent addition before Sweden to NATO.
- [34:47]
Tim Pool
Yes, they're using the most recent.
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Viva Fry
I believe they're using Finland as a depot for arms, just like they're using it as a military prostitutes to just store weapons. And they do it knowing exactly what the reaction is going to be. And it exactly justifies specifically why NATO should not be expanding and why it is an act of aggression against Russia.
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Tim Pool
And I encourage everybody out there who is unfamiliar with these territories, where these countries are. Look up Kaliningrad. Okay, Kaliningrad. Take a look at a map of Europe. Look at Poland. Easy to find. It's pretty big. Look right to the north. Hey, what's that? There's a Russian oblast right there. What's that doing? So when they argue that Russia's gonna. Once Russia takes Ukraine, they'll invade Poland. It's like Russia already has access to Poland and Lithuania in the deeply and heavily militarized oblast of Kaliningrad. Not that it's the own, like it's the best military position, but they have access to the Baltic as well. So the one thing you would fear is not Ukraine and Poland. Belarus has already allowed Russia to bring nuclear weapons in and bring in troops. Belarus is. There's a very small border barrier between Belarus and Kaliningrad. So if Russia was going to move in, they'd bring a bunch of troops into Belarus, probably move through Lithuania into Kaliningrad to create a corridor which they could transport troop, transport troops, and then have access to the Baltic. So these arguments, they're all nonsense. They're lying. The west, we want to shut Russia out. That's why all the Democrats and liberals and pro war Republicans have been arguing that every Ukrainian that fights a Russian is. Is. They're saying if Ukraine fights Russia, we won't have to. Basically, the people of Ukraine are cannon fodder to chuck at Russia, to weaken them.
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Viva Fry
It was Tim Scott who said it during one of the presidential debates. You know, we don't have to put any boots on the soil. We don't have to spill any American blood. It's a great deal for America and that. It really irritated me when I heard it. I'm like, that's the Most disgusting thing you can possibly say is you're using other people's children to weaken the Russian military infrastructure. And that's exactly what they're doing. That was the plan all along. Just throw in as many Ukrainian soldiers as you can. If it weakens Russia, all the better. And it's none of our blood. So good for us.
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Tim Pool
Let's, this is, this is another really big story. We're gonna jump to this story before we do, smash the like button. And if you're watching right now, live or otherwise, just share the show right now, post it on social media. We really do appreciate it. And let's grab this story from the post. Millenn Head of New York FBI Field office resigns after DOJ says office hid Epstein documents Quote, late Friday, I was informed that I needed to put my retirement papers in today, which I just did. So this was tough. Before Trump froze all aid to Ukraine, we were like, yo, we got a huge breaking story. The head of the FBI field office has resigned. The story last week was that Pam Bondi was informed by a whistleblower that the New York field office was sitting on thousands of documents related to the Epstein case and evidence and, and withheld that from the Attorney General so that they could not be released to the public, covering up Epstein, as it were. Now, the dudes being forced to resign, of course, within like 20 minutes of us being like, that's a big story. Trump freezes aid to Ukraine and we're like, whoa, what's going on? So this is also a massive story. I don't know what involvement this guy had, but many people have pointed out that the Southern District of New York attorney's office and the FBI field office have been 100% anti Trump, targeting him, targeting his lawyers, his personnel, and saying, quote, dig in when Donald Trump got elected. So now that we're, we're seeing that he's being forced out, one would wonder, why are they withholding Epstein documents? I believe they are. I don't trust this, this, this New York branch. Let me read a little bit of this. There's a bit of context here. Top FBI official in New York was forced to resign. James Denny, a Marine Corps veteran who joined the FBI following September 11, informed colleagues. Late Friday, I was informed I need to put in my retirement papers, which I just did. I was not given a reason for this decision. In the letter, he expressed regret over the sudden nature of his resignation and praised his co workers as an office of professionals who will always do the right thing for the right reasons. Yeah, that's code, right? His exit is the. I mean, that. That's. That's. That's. That sounds like code right there. Right away. They would always do the right thing for the right reasons.
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Viva Fry
Well, by that rationale, the wrong things become the right things if it's done for the right reasons. In fact, lie, cheat, and steal.
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Tim Pool
If they have the question. The question I have to. That quote, which is interesting in this letter, is why would law enforcement, obliged to operate within the law, need to do the right thing for the right reasons? Is there an implication? The implication is one of two things. Other FBI officers are deeply corrupt, but only his is not. Or he expects them to act out of line with. With what the FBI is charged with doing for what they perceive as, as you said, viva the right thing. Doing the wrong thing, as it were. Today we find ourselves in the middle of a battle of our own. As good people are being walked out of the FBI and others are being targeted because they did their jobs in accordance with the law and FBI policy. The release of the Epstein files did not go as planned last week. Oh, boy. Certainly not. So we still have not gotten anything. It's been a weekend. We have no Epstein documents. Have there been any updates on.
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Phil Labonte
I haven't heard anything at all.
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Viva Fry
I heard. Well, apparently from our chat last night. I don't know what day it is anymore. On our Sunday show, Alex Jones had been reporting that they were seen taking boxes out of the SDNY field office of the FBI. Those rumors and everybody who doesn't know that the SDNY is the second most, if not tied for the first most corrupt district in America. The other Most corrupt judicial DOJ district would be D.C. my concern is, I don't think they're necessarily not disclosing anything. I don't think the documents exist anymore in the possession of that field office. And I think they're probably with whoever was doing the extortion scheme from the beginning.
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Tim Pool
So, yeah, I mean, you guys really expect me to believe that Trump got elected and the New York field office said, let's just put our feet in his boxes and hold them for a little while and see what happens. Now, if they had documents, which I doubt they kept this long, the moment Trump got elected, they were like, where's the incinerator?
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Shane Cashman
Mm. Can I tell a little story? Let's tell a little story. All right. I'm gonna preface it by saying I don't believe in coincidences. Okay. So I was a furniture mover for 10 years in the state in the town of Chester, New York. And one morning on the way to work at the diner, there were pictures of four missing men. Mexican men. I was like, that's crazy for four men to go missing. They were abducted by a guy named Nicholas Tartaglion. Okay. Former cop. Turns out some drug deal gone wrong, he killed them, buried them on a pig farm in New York. Remember, that's Chester, New York. Okay. Nicholas ends up going to federal prison. He's given a cell phone. One day when he's put into a new jail cell, his route. His cellmate was Jeffrey Epstein. After he got that cell phone randomly, he beat up supposedly Jeffrey Epstein. Right. And Epstein was moved into that new place where whatever happened, happened. Yeah. Very, very bizarre. James Dennehy. This guy up here is from Chester, New York. That's just a very odd connection. New York is a very big place, and Chester is a very small place. And just the odds are all I'm saying. I don't know about that. Maybe there's a connection there. Maybe I'm undiagnosed schizophrenic, but I think Nicholas Tartaglion needs to be looked at and kept safe by Cash Patel. He's been moved from prisons secretly. My friend Jessica House inhabit substack is like one of the only journalists actually talking to him. They tried taking his life recently. That guy.
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Tim Pool
This is the guy that is believed was trying to kill Epstein.
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Shane Cashman
That's what they say. He says it's not the story. Super Musk, the jacked guy who was. Became a drug dealer after being a cop in New York. That guy, I think, knows something. And the Chester connection is weird to me. The federal prison Epstein connection is obviously weird to me. And he's still out there. And they're shuffling him around the country right now.
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Viva Fry
Do we not believe that he was the one who actually. Epstein. Epstein.
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Shane Cashman
He says the stories.
- [42:54]
Tim Pool
Well, no.
- [42:54]
Shane Cashman
Epstein was alone when Epstein supposedly went.
- [42:57]
Tim Pool
Sure he was.
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Shane Cashman
Yeah, right. He was with other people. But Nicholas was not with him at that point.
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Viva Fry
He was definitely with the person.
- [43:03]
Shane Cashman
They said Nicholas beat him up, but Nicholas says that wasn't the case.
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Tim Pool
I. I mean, look, we're all speculating because we really don't know. Security guards fell asleep. The camera broke.
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Shane Cashman
Sure they did.
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Tim Pool
Sure. Right. Yeah, but this guy's placed in a cell with Epstein, and the Epstein gets beat up and. Come on.
- [43:18]
Shane Cashman
He got a cell phone randomly. In one of the most corrupt prisons. I think is actually shut down already. I think that prison, the federal.
- [43:24]
Tim Pool
Sounds to me like this guy was sent in to take Epstein's life the first time and, and screwed up.
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Shane Cashman
Yes, maybe. Maybe. Or they use him as a py like, you know, to, to use him to get guards on.
- [43:35]
Phil Labonte
The guards that were, that fell asleep, are they still alive?
- [43:38]
Viva Fry
They're still alive. They got demoted or, or shuffled around. No, I think the prison is still, still open. I think they, I think it's where P Didy is.
- [43:44]
Shane Cashman
Oh, is it? I thought they closed it down. There was an article from a few years ago, said it was shut down.
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Viva Fry
I'm feeling, I'm fairly certain it's worth shocking and Tim, it's not guessing. Epstein did not. Well, Epstein did not kill himself, period. It's impossible. Set aside the coroner who said that his neck injuries were more likely that of pressure compression than from hanging or he's still alive. That's the other.
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Tim Pool
Yeah. Megyn Kelly said in her show recently we may soon hear from Epstein himself. And many people took that to imply she was saying she has reason to believe he's still alive. I think she's saying there's audio recordings probably of things that he said because he recorded everything. But he's alive. You think he's alive?
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Shane Cashman
I think he's gonna do his spaces with Mario Narwhal, whatever his name is.
- [44:28]
Tim Pool
McAfee.
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Shane Cashman
Yeah. McAfee's definitely coming back in this season. The way things are going. McAfee's coming back, actually might be hunting.
- [44:36]
Tim Pool
I, I, I disagree because the way, the way things were going into 2020, it was very sci fi dystopian.
- [44:43]
Shane Cashman
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
And then with Biden, it was like Veep, but, like, you know, there was very bad stuff that was happening. This season is more West Wing. It's more a very, a serious Trump cutting the bs, securing things. This is more of an action thriller presidency. So may maybe, you know, there's like some spies and some stuff, but this looks more like a drama this time around. Whereas the past two, like last season, may have been a comedy.
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Viva Fry
It feels, it feels like House of Cards. All that I have to say is like, on Friday, I think Pam Bondi was the happiest person on earth because of the Zelinsky incident. And at least people stopped talking about her, at least for 24 hours. Yeah, this is, this is seemingly good news in that it might confirm what the story was from last week, which nobody believed. It will not answer to the fact that it was implausible to begin with, that Pam Bondi could have believed she had the entire fight.
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Shane Cashman
Yeah, this will, this will make up if there's something here I think, I think there is. I think this, Thomas, that part is that part of the FBI field office.
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Viva Fry
Is corrupt for sure as the day is long.
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Shane Cashman
And this can make up for, you know, that I didn't really like the way they rolled out that walk of shame for the influencers. Not that I'm mad at the influencers. No, the White House.
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Phil Labonte
No, that was.
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Shane Cashman
Set them up.
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Phil Labonte
That was. That was. Well, absolutely.
- [45:52]
Shane Cashman
We're going to print out binders and let you walk out in front of the. The press.
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Tim Pool
And they could have walked about any other exit.
- [45:59]
Shane Cashman
Like three other places they had him.
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Tim Pool
Walk out right through where the press was.
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Phil Labonte
The GOP official sign was Rickrolling people. Come on.
- [46:05]
Shane Cashman
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
- [46:06]
Tim Pool
Come on.
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Viva Fry
Look, I don't want to steal man that which doesn't deserve a steel man. But they might have been making what they thought was a commentary like, look how the deep state just Rickrolled these journalists and the joke got misinterpreted. But they didn't take it down when every single reply to it was, it's not too late to delete this. And they refused to delete it.
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Phil Labonte
It was a horrible idea to do that. The rollout was terrible. It's unfortunate. It was an unforced error. It was a terrible idea. Nobody is happy with that at all.
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Tim Pool
It almost seems like they sabotaged some of these people 100%. Yeah.
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Shane Cashman
I'm mad at the White House for doing. Whoever at the White House did that.
- [46:42]
Tim Pool
Higher right chick is getting roasted by left and right.
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Viva Fry
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Because she was like doing a little shuffle dance while smiling and laughing with the Epstein binder, which turns out to have nothing in it.
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Shane Cashman
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
So I'm seeing like big, you know, prominent conservatives and liberals, like a bunch of liberals started making fun of her playing the video. This is libs of TikTok, those who don't know. Yeah, I don't care that she did that. Like, she's walking out and she's waving a binder. It's no big deal. But I'm seeing a lot of pro Trump people being like, this is. This is gross.
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Phil Labonte
Well, the thing like Pam Bondi was already. There were a lot of people that were critical of Pam Bondi in the first place because her red flag laws and stuff like that. So she was, she was already like. People were like, I don't know. So to do this and have this as happened so early in her. Her tenure. And there's a lot of people that were just like, this isn't awful. She's bad.
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Shane Cashman
Blah blah, blah, Bondi AG of Florida while Epstein.
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Viva Fry
No, no, she was AG as of 2011. The plea deal was in 2008. So she, she, she had minimal involvement, very little responsibility if any. I had Liz Wheeler on, on Friday. Her explanation makes everything make sense. Where, when they were holding that binder with their smiling, what they were, what they were in theory thought they were doing was just poking needling. The, the legacy media that was not invited to this meeting. The meeting was never supposed to be about the Epstein documents to begin with. Pre scheduled. And so they come up like haha, you're the, you're the old media now we're the new media. And it was not about the binders. So I say it sort of, it's sort of.
- [48:02]
Tim Pool
They also didn't know it was in them because they were told not to open them. Wait, they're under embargo. I do want to stress that despite the embargo, some people leaked it anyway. Yeah, that was, that was.
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Viva Fry
So I was told that they knew that. They were told there's no, you know, no smoking gun in it, but they were under embargo until 3:30. Okay.
- [48:21]
Tim Pool
The, the, the people that I spoke to said that they were told these are the phase one release but don't, don't show anything in the binders until after we do our announcement. And I think what they wanted, they wanted the UK to do the, the press junket or whatever with Starmer and they didn't want the Epstein thing to come out with a big splash until after they were done. I don't necessarily believe that. What I can say is it's absolutely hilarious working in this industry, guys. When I get contacted, of course Mike Cernovich already said, he called me and talked to me. I'm a big fan. Mike Cernovich is absolutely fantastic. And I talked with a couple of other, other people there because like literally everybody walked out. Is a friend of the show who's been on the show and everybody just said the same thing. You know, I told him like, look, I've been seeing this letter going around like right? Yeah, but you can't, you can't share it. It's under embargo. I'm like, you got it, so I'll wait. And then other people just leaked it because they don't care. They don't care. And I'm like, that's a nice guy's finished last man.
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Viva Fry
I, I also had that letter and I'm like, I can't. I didn't even know if I could disclose that there was an embargo, because I thought that might reveal the fact that there was an embargo. So I'm like, okay, oh, wait, I don't care to be first. I just don't want to.
- [49:28]
Tim Pool
And then it leaked and you were.
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Viva Fry
Like, no, I could. I couldn't have cared less. I.
- [49:31]
Tim Pool
No one.
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Viva Fry
Everyone will know. They can trust me.
- [49:33]
Tim Pool
No.
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Viva Fry
But my understanding was that they were told in advance. There's nothing new in here. But the breaking story is this letter which is confirming that the SDNY is withholding information, not cooperating with AG Bondi's orders.
- [49:47]
Tim Pool
They may have said that to some of the people, I suppose from the people I talked to, they said they were just handed the binders with little or no context. They didn't know what was happening, and they were told, we're going to be releasing more. And the letter, I believe, was in the front when you open it, basically the letter saying, there's more documents coming. And then upon talking with some people involved, they were like, it is. There is somewhat new information, but it's like, what is new is meaningless. It's just. It's. It's not what we want. It's not incriminating. It's not a smoking gun.
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Viva Fry
So it's meaningless from the Kalshee market definition of the bet or the investment, which was. There was no newly previously unclassified document that was declassified, but what was new was there's AG Bondi is reprimanding the SDNY for apparently concealing and protecting for a child.
- [50:34]
Tim Pool
I don't think we're getting it.
- [50:36]
Phil Labonte
I don't think we're getting it. But I do like the, The. This implication that they're going to be firing people. I mean. Oh, yeah, I don't think that I. I'm in agreement with him. I don't think that they're gonna. They're gonna have. Produce any. Anything that makes any kind of significant impact. But I do think that this is going to be a great excuse to just get rid of people that are corrupt. Get rid of people in the.
- [50:59]
Shane Cashman
If this exposes, like a web of corruption as great. And I want to say about this guy, I listened to two podcasts he did on the way over, and he is like a he, pro DEI and FBI type of guy. You know what you read earlier, Tim, about him having this battle against, you know, the Trump administration. And he also did another thing about. With. With state troopers in New York talking about booster outreach. So he's clearly of a certain type of political Persuasion that thinks he's doing the righteous thing. And so in their mind, what we see as corruption, they see as righteousness.
- [51:31]
Tim Pool
Let's jump to story about the Internet. We've got this from the post millennial far left streamer. Hasan Piker suspended from Twitch after calling. I'm going to be very careful. The language on this one. Hasan Piker basically instructed people to take action that would end the life of a sitting U.S. senator. Don't do that.
- [51:53]
Viva Fry
It was a metaphor, Tim. You weren't supposed to take it seriously.
- [51:57]
Tim Pool
He certainly said it. In fact, I can't even read the statement he made. And I can't believe how many times this guy has made statements like this. And they. They. People keep saying he was banned from Twitch. No, no, he was temporarily suspended. Yeah, that's it. Twitch does not care that this dude has advocated on numerous times for direct violence. This is a crime.
- [52:16]
Phil Labonte
The dude that runs Twitch went on Hasan's stream and sang him Happy Birthday on his birthday. No, no bs. That is legit. That actually happened. That's in. That's in the. The H3H3 podcast content dump. Yeah.
- [52:31]
Viva Fry
Before or after any number of these?
- [52:34]
Phil Labonte
Definitely after. He said that the United States deserved 911.
- [52:37]
Tim Pool
According to 18 USC 3. 18 USC 373, anyone who, with the intent that another person engage in conduct concerting a felony involving the use, attempted use or threatened use of physical force against another person in violation of U.S. law, solicit commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such a person to engage in such conduct. Conduct can be imprisoned for up to half the maximum term. What is that, 20 years? Wow. If the crime solicited is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the individual can be imprisoned up to 20 years. Furthermore, 18 USC 351 specifically addresses the protection of members of Congress, including US senators, making it a federal crime to assault, kidnap, murder these officials. This statute underscores the seriousness with which the law treats against federal legislators. I mean, they don't need to be a senator. It's illegal to tell someone to go kill somebody else. That's crazy.
- [53:26]
Phil Labonte
Arrest him. Arrest him.
- [53:29]
Shane Cashman
I'm looking forward to him doing a podcast with Taylor Lorenz.
- [53:33]
Phil Labonte
I'm looking for him. Forward to him having a podcast from.
- [53:36]
Shane Cashman
Jail with Luigi Mangione.
- [53:38]
Phil Labonte
There you go.
- [53:38]
Viva Fry
But it is. It is. We were joking before, you know, like whether or not he's a terrorist sympathizer, he's.
- [53:45]
Phil Labonte
There's no joke about it.
- [53:46]
Viva Fry
No, no, I know. This is. This is beyond. You know, they talk about dog Whistles but then you have your so called moderate terrorists who are the ones that instigate the, the radicals. It's nothing shy of this man sitting on his pedestal. He's very happy with his life. So he doesn't want to ruin his own life by doing something stupid. But he wouldn't mind if he were to cause someone to tip over the edge by saying what he said. He knows damn well what it means, how it's going to be heard. What is an instruction to his probably unhinged followers. He's a very, I'm going to quote Jerry Seinfeld, a very, very bad man. He's a very, very, very bad man, period.
- [54:19]
Shane Cashman
Wasn't his show kind of failing? I remember we did an episode a while back where his number one going down. I don't know. I've never watched anything this guy does. I've always been forced to see it on Twitter.
- [54:27]
Phil Labonte
He's the, he's been covered recently by CNN and by Slate trying to pump him up because the left is looking for like the left's Joe Rogan. But the problem is all the famous streamers on the left are literal communists that endorse terrorism.
- [54:42]
Viva Fry
Yeah.
- [54:42]
Phil Labonte
Like Hasan has literally had Houthi pirates on. He had a translator and there's a dude that's a Houthi pirate and he's sitting there glazing the guy saying, oh, you know what One Piece is? Yeah, we, we, we, we think that you're doing what Luffy would do. Like I guess that's a character from the, the manga.
- [54:57]
Tim Pool
That is the character.
- [54:58]
Phil Labonte
Yeah. So he's.
- [54:59]
Tim Pool
Wait, who said that? What?
- [55:00]
Phil Labonte
Hasan said that Hassan said to a Houthi pirate that what he's, he asked him if he knows what One Piece is and the Houthi pirate knows who one, what One Piece is. And Hassan told the translator to tell the pirate, tell him that we think he's doing what Luffy would do. A pirate.
- [55:20]
Tim Pool
Those that don't know Luffy is a fun loving, goofy character for those that are familiar, similar to Goku or Naruto for instance.
- [55:28]
Viva Fry
And that's not helping me understand.
- [55:29]
Tim Pool
Okay, let's. What's a good American equivalent? He is a doofy fun loving adventurer who's trying to find the great treasure left behind by the Pirate King or whatever. He's, he's, he ate the gum gum fruit and now he can stretch like Reed Richards or whatever. I don't know how the Houthi pirates who are blowing up vessels and killing people or anything like that. What what is a One Piece? One Piece is the treasure. Okay, so I'm not a big One Piece fan. I actually rather don't like it. So I don't know as much as the. The average person, but what I can tell you is typically anime characters in these prominent shows, presumably One Piece, but I can speak directly for like, Naruto and Goku and Dr. Stone. Dr. Stone's fantastic. By the way, great magic school bus show for your kids. The heroes always convert the enemies to join their team by. By showing them the. The error of their ways. So really great story writing in Naruto, for instance. It's a graphic novel, man. Some really brutal writing. I. I won't get into it now because it's just a bit too esoteric, but it's really good writing where the main characters are always like, here's why you are wrong for doing what you did. And then confronting the villains who eventually change because of it. I'd love to see the Houthi Pirates be convinced that what they're doing is wrong.
- [56:46]
Phil Labonte
I mean, I don't know, but I like when bad things happen for Hasan, like getting booted. I like, I like. I like the H3 H3 content nuke, which I just tweeted, if you guys are interested in seeing this. It's an hour and 45 minutes long. Ethan Klein is just disassembles Hasan. He points out that he's a literal communist, that he endorses violence. He does it frequently. He points out that twitch glazes Hasan all the time. They love him. Frogan, which is one of Hasan's moderators. She endorses all the violence too. He's anti Semitic. He's just the absolute worst.
- [57:29]
Viva Fry
It is. I mean, the thing is, it's a trend now. Like, you have Bill Burr doing it with Lionizing Luigi Mangione, saying, you know, like effectively calling people to do terrible things for ideological reasons. You got Hassan pike doing. There was another guy. I don't know who it was, but saying, you know, like, someone's got to do it to Elon. Like, they know what they're doing and it's a strategy.
- [57:51]
Tim Pool
Samurai said if you Google search, Raphael Warnock, parlor threat. This guy basically did the same thing as Hasan, got three years in jail. Check this out. So it's not jail, it's prison. And I Google searched it.
- [58:02]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, New York, man, Prison's worse.
- [58:04]
Tim Pool
Yeah, Nearly three years in prison for threatening Ralph Warnock. His quote was, dead men can't pass laws. That's, that's, that's crazy.
- [58:13]
Viva Fry
Exponentially more nuanced than what Hasan Piker said.
- [58:17]
Phil Labonte
Yep.
- [58:18]
Tim Pool
Wow. He did say other stuff during January 6th that I understand too. But in. In reference to threatening war. Warnock, it was that. That was the quote, which is, he.
- [58:29]
Viva Fry
Certainly picked a bad administration to test these laws with because now you don't have a friendly Biden commie Kamala Harris administration.
- [58:35]
Phil Labonte
This is, this is why I make the argument that we live in a leftist melo that is so that we are so inundated with leftism that we don't even realize it. That's why you can do something just center right, right? And people will call you a Nazi. People will say, oh, you're. You're a far right extremist. Because you're like, oh, maybe we should, you know, maybe we should decrease the. The amount of money we pay in taxes. That's an extreme far right extremist. Because the. We are so inundated with leftism. And you see it when it comes to the way that courts behave, people like Luigi Mangione go out and they commit actual murder. And then there are people that just line up, you know, looking to praise the guy.
- [59:17]
Tim Pool
So he got really mad at me, and I was kind of surprised he did because Dexurdo tweeted hasanabi has been banned on Twitch. I said, it's a suspension. They call it banned. But he'll be back on shortly. It's likely to do with his calling on people to kill a sitting U.S. senator. He didn't even know Rick Scott was a senator. Wtf? So in the clip of Hasan, he says, if you really cared about, you know, Medicaid fraud or whatever, then he tells people, go do this thing. And, well, he said, if you care about this, you will do this thing. And which I will not repeat. He then says, you wouldn't then put him into what. What is his office. And then he. He Googles it. And I'm like, dude, he didn't even know that Rick Scott was a senator. He's the senator from Florida that he. He left the governorship. Ron DeSantis took over. Like, bro, how are you going to make an argument that he shouldn't be in a position you didn't even know position? It was okay. I didn't even say that. But dude got so mad. So he tweeted. He tweeted in response to me, Tim Pool loves that Rick Scott was caught overseeing the largest Medicare Medicaid fraud in US History and will defend the wealthy, robbing you blind justice. He'll defend Mike Johnson gutting Medicaid with lies. He's not independent. He's a bald partisan hack. Oh, Hasan, you crying? Whoa, look at that emotional reaction. I didn't say nothing to you, buddy. Hassan's pissed that he got suspended. He's very angry. In response, I said, here is me landing switch and nollie hardflip. Say that that's a switch hard flip right there. The nollie hardflip was much cleaner. Take a look at this one. Not. Not beautiful. Yeah. Nice slow mo. That's my response to Hasan.
- [60:46]
Viva Fry
People don't understand how hard this is to do, Tim. Like, that's. That's. But first, hold on. Am I wrong? Like, the Internet seems to say that Hasan Piker's net worth is between 4 and 8 million dollars.
- [60:56]
Tim Pool
I'd imagine it's higher.
- [60:57]
Viva Fry
How the hell is he a commie if he's the most capitalist commie, Same.
- [61:02]
Shane Cashman
Kind of commie that Bernie Sanders is.
- [61:03]
Viva Fry
And if he's, you know, criticizing you for, like, defending the wealthy.
- [61:07]
Tim Pool
Dudes.
- [61:07]
Viva Fry
Dudes fricking wealthy. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.
- [61:10]
Tim Pool
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The point of his tweet, I never defended Rick Scott over this. I literally just pointed out that he got suspended, not banned, and he didn't know who Rick Scott was. He then, for some random reason, probably because he's just not a smart guy and he's a grifter liar. He says Tim Pool loves Rick Scott and will defend him. I never defended Rick Scott literally, bro. All I said was you likely got suspended because you called on people to do a thing. That's it. I never said anything nice about the man. I don't think I've ever actually talked about Rick Scott other than, oh, he's running for Senate.
- [61:42]
Shane Cashman
I don't trust him because he refuses to use capital letters. Not even his name. I don't think was out of his way to lower, easy lowercase letters.
- [61:48]
Tim Pool
I don't think Hassan could run a mile.
- [61:50]
Shane Cashman
You should.
- [61:51]
Phil Labonte
He's actually, I think he's. He's lost weight. He used to be really doughy, and now he's lost weight because, well, it's embarrassing to be that rich and. And have that much time on your hand.
- [62:00]
Tim Pool
Like, he was recently doughy.
- [62:01]
Phil Labonte
He was doughy like, a year ago, but he spent some. He spent some. He's. He has a. He has someone come in and cook him.
- [62:06]
Shane Cashman
He's working out with the pirates.
- [62:07]
Phil Labonte
Well, he's cooking. He's cooking him. He's cooking him food. And And. And stuff. So, yeah, he used. But he used to be very doughy. Yes.
- [62:15]
Shane Cashman
He's related to Shankweiger.
- [62:18]
Tim Pool
Yeah. Nephew.
- [62:19]
Phil Labonte
And nepotism.
- [62:23]
Tim Pool
One of the things Hassan did is like, dude, homie was melting down. I said, you crying? He says, I think I'll be all right, little man. And I'm like, bro, come on. Like, let me. Let me tell you guys. So in Internet trolling, the rules are you. You never engage in the troll. Right. So for Hassan to have this emotional of a reaction that is basically. You lose. Well, you lose.
- [62:47]
Viva Fry
He's right about one thing, Tim. He seems to be 6 foot 3 by the Internet, so he is much, much bigger than you.
- [62:51]
Tim Pool
He certainly is. He certainly is. I am of average height, but again, I don't think the man could run a mile. I think he sits in his chair all day and doesn't exercise. He maybe. Maybe lifts. He's got.
- [63:00]
Phil Labonte
He lifts.
- [63:01]
Tim Pool
He's got bigger. That's great. So vanity muscles, they call it. Vanity. That's. I'm not kidding.
- [63:06]
Shane Cashman
We get him out here on the show, and then I want to see.
- [63:08]
Tim Pool
If the dude actually. I bet he's not in shape. Yeah, I bet he's. I bet he's in, like, miserably poor shape.
- [63:14]
Shane Cashman
Yeah, let's get him out here.
- [63:16]
Tim Pool
I mean, look, I'll say this, bro. Imagine not even knowing who Rick Scott was and making such a psychotic argument against the man. Like, this is a dude who went on a show and said that you would if you cared, and then he calls for people to take this action, which is insane. Like, the most extreme of actions, and then says. And not put him in a. Where is he anyway? Like, the dude could have been in a retirement home for all he knew.
- [63:41]
Phil Labonte
Hasan is. Is.
- [63:42]
Tim Pool
He could have been. He could have been in jail for all he knew.
- [63:45]
Phil Labonte
Hasan is famously stupid. Like, he says dumb things all the time, and he comments on things he doesn't, you know, he doesn't know anything about. Like, I mean, like, I. I have disagreements with people like Destiny. I'm not a fan of destiny at all, but at least Destiny's not as. Just mind numbingly dumb as Hassan, is.
- [64:02]
Viva Fry
He. He's.
- [64:03]
Phil Labonte
Hassan is well known for being kind of like the him. Like, they call him the himbo.
- [64:07]
Tim Pool
Yeah. Just.
- [64:07]
Shane Cashman
Just the first time Phil's ever said anything nice about destiny.
- [64:10]
Tim Pool
Just a casual reminder, guys. He was a pickup artist for years. Yeah. Was he really? He did. Broke on YouTube as a pickup artist.
- [64:16]
Phil Labonte
Yeah. That's how he got started. Yep. Just want to Say that.
- [64:18]
Shane Cashman
Just want to quickly drop that there.
- [64:20]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, He. He talks about, you know, very misogynistic things to get his start because he just. He just wants to be famous. And now it's like, it's cool to be left a leftist and blah, blah, blah.
- [64:30]
Tim Pool
I defended Hasan so many times over the Sam Hyde thing, but he's a grifter. And so when, When, When. When the tweet is, he was banned, I say, actually, he wasn't banned, he was suspended. His response is to just vomit all over himself. And he's. He doesn't have the ability to control himself.
- [64:45]
Viva Fry
Is it one of the Orwellian permanent suspensions or is it Twitch says you're.
- [64:51]
Tim Pool
Banned and then like a week later you're unbanned?
- [64:53]
Viva Fry
Yeah, it's just everybody understands it wasn't a metaphorical. Like, you know, when Joe Biden said, lock him up politically, lock them up, this was sort of like a termination.
- [65:03]
Tim Pool
And son said, if you care about X, you will do. Yep. Which is a direct call to action.
- [65:09]
Phil Labonte
Yep. It's.
- [65:11]
Viva Fry
It's. All things aside, if it were anybody remotely right of center, they'd be in jail. By.
- [65:17]
Tim Pool
Absolutely.
- [65:18]
Phil Labonte
Absolutely. And I mean it's. Again, this is because of the whole leftist melu that we live in. I totally agree.
- [65:24]
Viva Fry
And just before anyone in the chat says, now, Viva Fry doesn't support free speech. It never, never covered threats, you know, calls to imminent violence against a specific person.
- [65:34]
Tim Pool
Oh, but they did.
- [65:35]
Shane Cashman
Can I ask real quick, like, because I like that they say these things I like, like when Taylor Lorenz does it. I like knowing exactly how they feel. Does it. Does he have to put, like, a timestamp on it of when this should happen for it to actually it.
- [65:47]
Viva Fry
No, that's. Be identifiable. It has to be specific. It has to. Does it have to mention at High Noon? Certainly not based on the precedent of the other guy.
- [65:55]
Shane Cashman
True.
- [65:55]
Tim Pool
Listen, he. He. He said, if you care about X, you will do Y. He's got. What does he get, like 20,000 live viewers on his show? He gets hundreds of thousands of views. How many of them are to go. He's right. I do care about X. Better go do. Yeah. That is a call to action. That is. That is a call to. For someone to go commit a crime.
- [66:17]
Viva Fry
Yeah.
- [66:19]
Shane Cashman
I just have a tough time wanting to, like, prosecute it. Like, I think it's disgusting, but because the same people could be, like, they look at Trump, they hate Trump, and he says, we got to go fight. And they.
- [66:28]
Viva Fry
It's a vague statement, but Then you.
- [66:30]
Shane Cashman
Look at those people.
- [66:31]
Viva Fry
It's the difference between saying they would. See, I want to, I want to kill someone's reputation versus I want to take out the word reputation. I mean, it's not, they're not comparable. It's not fuzzing the waters here. It's just.
- [66:41]
Tim Pool
And Trump said there's going to be a bloodbath in the auto market. And they said Trump threatens viol. Yeah. So Trump could literally be like, I'm going to make a bunch of beautiful cupcakes for everybody. And like, does cupcake mean murder? Trump said cupcakes, but we know what he really means. So when Hasan comes out and literally says, hey, you, if you like this, go do that. Come on. I just think it's over.
- [67:00]
Shane Cashman
They're so bloodthirsty on the left. They interpret it so differently.
- [67:03]
Tim Pool
So what cares? Yeah, I don't care if a moron looks at the color opposite of the green and goes, I think that's blue. I don't know. Like, okay, well, you're dumb.
- [67:11]
Viva Fry
There will be hell to pay. No. You know, you will suffer. No. Go take someone's life. Yes. I mean, that's.
- [67:20]
Tim Pool
Oh, yes, sorry. Yes.
- [67:22]
Viva Fry
And that's, that's the. It was the four letter word for take someone's life.
- [67:25]
Shane Cashman
How do we have that precedent of that guy that we just pulled up with Warnock with such a vague.
- [67:30]
Viva Fry
Well, they have certain. There's no question that they've abused and expanded of what qualifies as a direct threat. It was the Brandenburg, the, you know, the case where they said, we're going to go find a specific group of people and kill them. And you know that that was protected speech. It wasn't sufficiently specific to an identifiable person. This was like, Tim, do it right. And he would have been very happy had it happened.
- [67:52]
Shane Cashman
And what did Taylor Lorenz say?
- [67:54]
Tim Pool
Because she. Hers was a little bit.
- [67:56]
Viva Fry
Was a little more nuanced. I forget what the exact quote for Taylor Lorenz was not to defend her, but it was a little more nuanced.
- [68:01]
Tim Pool
Everybody, she said, everybody wants this to happen or something like that.
- [68:05]
Shane Cashman
Okay.
- [68:05]
Phil Labonte
Everybody's. Everybody except for like Luigi Mangioni is more nuanced than us.
- [68:10]
Tim Pool
No, no, I got, I gotta pause you there because it's actually, I'm not convinced Luigi Mangione is the guy.
- [68:15]
Phil Labonte
Oh, really?
- [68:15]
Tim Pool
Yeah. I mean, on the left, they're like one of the biggest debates or I should say the left is defending Luigi under the argument. It's not him. And so the conspiracy that leftists are Pushing conservatives on the right are just like, condemn him. Condemn him. We don't actually know if it's him or not. All we know is he got arrested. And I gotta tell you, we all ran the show when it first happened. He does not look like the security footage where the guy's got thin eyebrows and he's got a big unibrow. And so when we saw the footage, I was like, that's not. When the first video came out, photo of Luigi Magione, I said, that doesn't look like the right guy. And so what happened was video comes out of the shooting, person of interest is identified in a photo. Everyone tweets the suspect. And I said, no, no, no, no, no. Person of interest is not a suspect. That I said, suspect. This could be a guy who bumped into him. You could be getting the wrong guy. And I said, besides, don't even look like each other. Yep. Then they claimed it was him and he did it. On the left, they're saying there's reason to believe it's not actually him. So I carry that because you don't know what's going to come up in the. In the court case.
- [69:13]
Viva Fry
No, well, no, My understanding is that the left is not saying he might be innocent because it might not be him. They're saying he did it and it was justified. That was sort of my understanding for why the left is saying, no, no, no, it was a righteous. It was a righteous act.
- [69:24]
Tim Pool
There are many on the left, predominantly, that just say they wear Luigi hats, they say, we need Luigi, things like that. But I'm. The right is largely ignoring the story, and only on the left is there a subset that's entertaining, that Luigi Mangione is not actually the shooter.
- [69:39]
Viva Fry
I was mildly cynical, like it's Minority Report, like orgy of evidence. They find the guy at a McDonald's, he's got a backpack with a manifesto with the way, I can totally understand he might be a mentally unwell individual, easy to frame as the patsy. And so, you know, it's due process and it applies to everybody. But no, as far as I'm concerned, the people who are defending him on it being righteous, a righteous act.
- [70:00]
Tim Pool
Sure. And they're wrong.
- [70:01]
Viva Fry
They're wrong.
- [70:01]
Tim Pool
But I'll tell you, don't forget, when the story first broke, we as well as many others were saying, that's not the guy. He looks very different. He's wearing a different coat. He's wearing a different backpack, a different hood, and he's got bushy eyebrows.
- [70:14]
Shane Cashman
I floated the theory that it was a CIA skin mask. And everyone got so mad. I didn't say the CIA did it. I said a CIA skin mask. Right. I wasn't saying they were going out and doing it. But you've seen those masks, right?
- [70:25]
Viva Fry
There was one that went viral. It's like, right, Absolutely.
- [70:27]
Shane Cashman
There's new ones that aren't even like the old school CIA ones that are like some fabric and they look great, you know. So I think we don't know. And I'm looking forward to seeing the evidence when it's.
- [70:36]
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this next story. We got this one from the Hill. We're going to shout out to our good friend Bill Maher. Bill Maher says Democrats will lose every election without a shift on trans issues. I love how the Hill just really avoids saying what he actually said because Bill Maher does not use those kinds of the kind of language. Bill Maher is a bit more crass than that. But Bill Maher was, was having a debate with Pod Save America's John Lovett and he basically said, you want to. I'll give a quote. You want to lose every election? Just keep coming down on the side of parents coming in second and who gets to decide what goes on with my kid contest. Love responded that he was not talking about winning or losing elections. I agree that there's salience to the issue. I agree this has been weaponized. But I'm just talking about the issue itself. Bill Maher basically said if Democrats don't drop the gender ideology stuff, they will never win another election. He is correct. But Democrats are a cult. Okay, let me guys, can I just give you a simple. Okay, when did Democrats start supporting the military industrial complex?
- [71:39]
Phil Labonte
When Donald Trump got elected.
- [71:41]
Tim Pool
When Donald Trump got elected. I don't mean the politicians because they always did, but these progressive leftists like Kyle Kalinsky. How is Kyle Kalinske pro military industrial complex? This is a guy whose whole career was like, the war machine is bad. Now he's cheering and bashing his face on the table as hard as he can, screaming Slava Ukrainian. I'm like, what? It's a cult. These people, their brains are jello. Ok?
- [72:04]
Phil Labonte
Anti Trump, they also see the military.
- [72:07]
Shane Cashman
Industrial complex and the government in general as their parent.
- [72:10]
Tim Pool
You know, what I'm saying is I get that there's only one explanation for how someone like Kyle Kalinsky who spends his whole career ragging on the war machine, now all of a sudden in support of it, along with Hasan Piker. They love daddy war machine now because it doesn't matter what the issue is. It matters that they're adhering to the social orthodoxy. That's what I call wokeness. They are just marching in lockstep with whatever the social orthodoxy is. And Kyle Kalinsky is now pro war. It's psychotic. I digress. This is why Democrats will not give up the gender issue, despite the fact that it's deeply unpopular. Every single poll shows it to be unpopular. They just. They won't.
- [72:51]
Shane Cashman
They won't walk around to give it up. They'd have to accept that they've been abusing kids gleefully.
- [72:55]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, that's. There's a lot of people that have. Have made really bad decisions that are gonna have to. That are never gonna actually say, oh, this is wrong. Because to do that would require them doing some self.
- [73:09]
Shane Cashman
Yeah.
- [73:09]
Phil Labonte
Some soul searching and be like, wow, I really. It's like, I really, you know, was endorsing the mutilation of children. Like, I imagine when there were people, when. When people realized that a lobotomy was actually terrible process procedure to do, I imagine there were a lot of people that until their dying day were like, no, it was right. All the lobotomies we did, they needed it.
- [73:32]
Shane Cashman
Maybe Hassan to try it.
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Tim Pool
I had a conversation with a friend of mine who's like, what people need to understand is the average person who's like, left or right is actually not really either. They don't really pay attention. So I gotta. It's funny because the liberals get super angry when I say, like, I have a bunch of friends who are like, liberal lefty. Well, who doesn't? I mean, I've got family members who are liberal who talk all the time. But I was talking to a friend of mine who is moderately left but not politically active. So, you know, they're not paying attention to the news or watching anything like this. And they were telling me how they were upset that Trump was suspending these things and they think it's bad if the kid's got to get medical care. And I just was like, why are we affirming a mental disorder? The response I got was, it's not a mental disorder. I was like, no, it's in the DSM 5. It's a mental disorder. I didn't make that up. The diagnostic first and some medicine, whatever it is, says it's a mental disorder. But why do we affirm this one and not any of the other ones? And I got kind of just like kind of a blank stare. I said, no, for instance, like general body dysmorphia. Like when someone says, my hand is not my hand, the doctor doesn't cut it off.
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Viva Fry
Well, there was a person who actually had found someone to blind them because they said, I identify as a blind person. But anorexia is the. Is the easiest example to illustrate. I feel fat.
- [74:47]
Tim Pool
Oh, you are fat.
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Viva Fry
You should go throw up some more like, or that's bulimia. But if someone were anorexic and said, I feel fat, I look in the mirror and I feel fat, you would not affirm that. You would not. You would not legislate the inability of psychiatrists and psychologists to treat that. Do you have to say you have to affirm their identity that they feel fat? No, because they're killing themselves and in this case they're mutilating themselves.
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Tim Pool
And I got no response. And I said that in a good way, in that I believe. They started to question why they were advocating for affirming a. What is classified in the DSM 5 as a mental disorder. I explained to the reason it's in there is because the activists want it in there so they can get prescription medicine. Because if it's removed as a mental disorder and no longer can be. If it can't be a diagnosed mental disorder, then you can't get treatment for it. So it needs to be in there. But then we ask the question of, do we affirm pica? You know, pica is when people eat non edible objects, inedible objects. So famously, people eat hair a lot.
- [75:42]
Shane Cashman
There's a guy who ate an airplane.
- [75:43]
Tim Pool
Once in a whole airplane. Yeah.
- [75:44]
Shane Cashman
I think over time I saw him.
- [75:46]
Tim Pool
Just want to eat glass. I recommended he not do that, but he insisted and it was a magic trick. But in all seriousness, there are people who eat coins. Imagine a person is eating coins and you're like, hey, man, you. Do you. It's like, no, we don't. We say like, hey, that's really bad. You should stop doing that.
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Viva Fry
Yeah, the, the hair in particular. The human body can't digest hair. So there's a number of cases where it grows into abscesses in the body. It usually accompanies trichotillomania.
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Tim Pool
What is that?
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Viva Fry
That is when you compulsively pull out hair. So people pull them out, then they eat them. Yeah, but did you notice? I think they redefined gender dysphoria. And now they've added the. If you, if you are uncomfortable with your body and identify as another whatever and it causes discomfort. So that there can be people that say, I. It doesn't cause me Discomfort, Therefore, it's not a diagnosable mental illness. And I think that was the most recent modification that they added to it.
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Tim Pool
Mental disorder cope.
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Viva Fry
What did I call it?
- [76:34]
Tim Pool
Illness.
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Viva Fry
Sorry, sorry. And I say this as someone who has various mental disorders, some might say.
- [76:41]
Tim Pool
I do think there's a distinction in. I think mental illness and mental disorders are actually different things.
- [76:46]
Viva Fry
I can understand one. One is a chemical. Chemical, I want to say chemical imbalance versus, I would say schizophrenia, I would call a mental illness. Ocd, I would call a mental disorder.
- [76:56]
Tim Pool
Right. I think.
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Viva Fry
But I'm not even sure how I define that. Bottom line. I'm fairly certain they redefined it now so that it's broad, it's. It's more specific, so that it's not gender dysphoria unless it causes discomfort. And so all that people have to say now is, I'm happy like this. So therefore, it's not a mental condition that requires any form of treatment. Empower me to play sports against women.
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Phil Labonte
I think that it actually is. Is. It goes further than that. Most of the people that, if I understand correctly, the majority of people that actually are transgender or transgender or trans men, so women that believe or want to be men are actually more common than trans women. And, and there are different reasons for ever. Like, for women and men to want to be trans women, it tends to be like a body dysmorphia thing. Whereas men, there are more varied and sinister reasons why they want.
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Tim Pool
Not family friendly.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah, exactly. You know, and so, you know, but we, we shouldn't. We, as a society, we can allow for people to do this. We can allow. We can, we can make sure, like, we can make room for them, but we definitely shouldn't have. We shouldn't be supporting it. We shouldn't be changing laws for trans people and, or making special laws for trans people. We shouldn't. And we definitely should be prosecuting doctors that would do any kind of operations on children.
- [78:18]
Shane Cashman
Also shouldn't be funding all of it overseas.
- [78:20]
Phil Labonte
100%. No, absolutely.
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Tim Pool
Well, I mean, one of the crazy things is that Trump has. Has that executive order basis saying, we're going to cut funding from you if you're promoting this at your university or schools, whatever. They're still doing it. Oh, yeah, they want all these schools, universities.
- [78:32]
Viva Fry
They haven't stopped the main governor there, where they had. She had her face off with Train. Yeah, yeah. I forget her name, but she's like, well, yeah, we're not, we're not going to follow this. And he says, well, you're not going to get any more federal funding. So congrats. No, it's not a question of tolerating like everybody can do what they want as adults where it becomes an issue. As you know, your freedoms end where my nose begins. And so do what you want and more power to you. No judgment whatsoever. But it doesn't, doesn't extend to kids.
- [78:58]
Tim Pool
It doesn't extend. I got what you want.
- [79:00]
Phil Labonte
We can judge a little.
- [79:01]
Tim Pool
No, no, you can't do what you want as an adult.
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Viva Fry
That's true. You can do what you want to the extent that it doesn't impact somebody else. So a man who believes that he wants to dress up as a woman is fine, but cannot compete. And a parent who thinks their kid who's 14 years old should go get a double mastectomy is a big no.
- [79:16]
Tim Pool
Incorrect.
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Viva Fry
Go on, sir.
- [79:18]
Tim Pool
Adults aren't allowed to do lots of things. There are a lot of things that you are not allowed to do to yourself that don't impact others. We have.
- [79:26]
Viva Fry
Well, I'm thinking you're going to go to drugs.
- [79:28]
Tim Pool
Drugs is the easy one.
- [79:29]
Viva Fry
Well, but drugs I disagree with because I think by partaking in the drug trade you're necessarily doing things to others. By supporting the cartels.
- [79:36]
Tim Pool
What if you're growing, growing some plants in your backyard of your own business?
- [79:39]
Viva Fry
That would be okay, fine, but then that would be the.
- [79:43]
Tim Pool
I.
- [79:43]
Viva Fry
Well, first of all, I do happen to agree with that you want to smoke weed. Except if you're going to smoke and drive. But set aside drugs. What, what other one?
- [79:50]
Tim Pool
In terms of general body dysmorphia, you cannot perform surgeries on yourself. You'll get 5150.
- [79:56]
Viva Fry
Yes, but you can find someone who will cut your tongue down the middle or set implants in your skull. There was the woman. I gotta find, I don't know who did it, who blinded the woman.
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Tim Pool
And there are people who suffer from body dysmorphia where they will stage accidents. So there have been stories where people have gone to doctors and said, I need my arm removed. It's not, it's alien to my body. I'm telling you, it's not my arm. And they say absolutely not. So then their car jack breaks and their car lands on their arm and oh no.
- [80:26]
Viva Fry
It requires a certain degree of dedication. Holy crap.
- [80:29]
Tim Pool
I mean, these people are suffering from a DSM 5 mental disorder.
- [80:32]
Shane Cashman
Yeah.
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Viva Fry
You know up in Canada that with the conversion therapy ban, which was wholly supported by the so called conservative party, medical practitioners, psychiatrists, psychologists, can't Talk someone out of it. So they can only affirm a, a mental condition and they cannot try to.
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Shane Cashman
Treat it, which is why maid is so popular.
- [80:50]
Viva Fry
Yeah, it's a number. Number three, four leaders.
- [80:53]
Tim Pool
If you'd like to go down the list of things I'm not allowed to do. If you live in a, in a suburban environment, you're not allowed to play music. Too noisy. It affects others. Yeah, but that, that runs like, I'm.
- [81:04]
Viva Fry
Not allowed having chickens where I live.
- [81:06]
Tim Pool
But that's right. That's wrong.
- [81:07]
Viva Fry
Except the noise would irritate the neighbors.
- [81:10]
Tim Pool
Roosters, not chickens. Why do they ban chickens? You can, you can. Hens.
- [81:14]
Viva Fry
So this was the question my wife asked. Do chickens. I know they go like, they do that purring noise, but they don't. They don't annoy the neighbors. No.
- [81:22]
Tim Pool
Yell. Well, to be fair, chickens do make noises. They are noisy. They do. They do the egg song. You know, what's that?
- [81:29]
Viva Fry
How's that go?
- [81:30]
Tim Pool
It's different for every chicken, but they'll just basically bagok, bagok, bagok, over and over and over again.
- [81:35]
Viva Fry
See, the discussion I was having with my wife is if we get a few chickens, will the neighbors know? Because the HOA are a bunch of fascists and they're going to come down on us with an.
- [81:43]
Tim Pool
I'm not, I'm. I'm not allowed to install a deck on my house. I'm not allowed to put in another toilet. I'm not allowed to put a window in my house. Like, I'm not allowed to redo my basement. Like.
- [81:54]
Viva Fry
Yeah, but I could, I could make the argument that that could potentially tangentially affect somebody else. A guest, a visitor, whatever, who comes in and trips and falls.
- [82:00]
Tim Pool
You can do whatever you want.
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Viva Fry
Your body, I mean, crazy. Well, I mean, I'm just trying to steal, man, the argument here, but like, in terms of body self mutilation, people can cut themselves, they can scar themselves.
- [82:11]
Tim Pool
You can't remove body parts.
- [82:12]
Viva Fry
Yeah. Because I believe. Well, I, I wonder if you could do it to yourself but not find a doctor, someone.
- [82:17]
Shane Cashman
If someone shows up at the hospital who's removed their hand somehow, is that immediate? You're. You're taken away.
- [82:22]
Phil Labonte
You should definitely.
- [82:23]
Tim Pool
You're probably going to get 5150. Yeah. They're going to say, you are clearly a risk to yourself and others and they're gonna, and they're gonna involuntarily commit you.
- [82:31]
Shane Cashman
Yeah, I had a roommate who wants to do that. Crazy person. Yeah.
- [82:35]
Viva Fry
The knives, it's amazing. Cutting off the hand is crazy, but cutting off the boobies of the schmeckle and then all of a sudden it's gender identity.
- [82:41]
Shane Cashman
Yeah, that's fine. We'll fund. We'll actually fund it with her. With your tax.
- [82:45]
Tim Pool
To be fair, there are a lot of other things that are illegal. They're still in the books, though. Most states don't enforce against these things. Okay, I'll give you. I'll give you a family friendly example. In West Virginia, cohabitation is a crime. No cop is going to arrest a guy for living with his girlfriend. But it is illegal.
- [83:01]
Shane Cashman
I should start. Bring it back. Let's bring it back.
- [83:05]
Tim Pool
Isn't that wild? Like, they actually enforced this up until, like, probably the early 1900s? Yeah, I mean. I mean, it was probably still frowned upon and seemed as odd in the 40s and 50s, for sure. If in West Virginia you are dating a woman and you go and live in her house or she in yours, that is a crime in the state.
- [83:24]
Shane Cashman
That's how you make America great again.
- [83:26]
Tim Pool
Crime.
- [83:26]
Viva Fry
Well, okay, as far as the story goes, and you say the cult thing, in terms of why they can't abandon this, I'm not sure about that. I. I think there's a lot of. Especially Kyle Kalinsky. I don't think it's cultish. I actually think it's genuine opportunism. And this is where slowly you. You paint yourself in a corner and then you have no choice but to double down, triple down. Not because of sincere belief. His wife is crystal ball. Right?
- [83:48]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [83:49]
Tim Pool
Okay.
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Viva Fry
Like, there's nobody on earth who can be sincerely that stupid or that. I will say stupid. Like putting out views where I think it's rage baiting, click baiting. I think she's backed herself into so far of a corner that there's no. You can't get a normal job after that. So you just have to make as much as you can in the.
- [84:07]
Tim Pool
I think that's where they're at, like cnn.
- [84:09]
Viva Fry
Like cnn. When it comes to the parents who will never be able to admit that they irreparably harmed their children, probably as a result of their own mental conditions and not that of their child. Because this is. This is like transgender syndrome by proxy. They will never admit it. They can't. Same thing with the parents who may have given their kids the jab and bad things happened, but I think they're going to be relegated to such a vocal minority that at some point, on the one hand, everyone's going to break ties with them, but then the Problem is everyone's going to break ties with them and then they're going to go from being a vocal minority to potentially something worse, which we've already started seeing a lick of out in Portland and in various places in America. They're going to start getting more active in terms of asserting themselves.
- [84:49]
Shane Cashman
Yep.
- [84:49]
Tim Pool
Let's. Let's jump to this story and we'll. We'll try and keep it light. This one's. This one's pretty crazy. So before we do smash that, like, button, of course, and share the show, if you really like the work that we do, give us a little share on social media. This is from Coin, Telegraph streamer. Amaranth claims she was robbed at gunpoint over crypto Fortune in November. Amaranth, real name Caitlin Whatever, revealed that she owned around 211 bitcoin worth over $20 million. So she announced that in November.
- [85:16]
Phil Labonte
That's an error.
- [85:17]
Tim Pool
That is a big mistake. And so I don't know if this has been confirmed or not. There's videos that were posted of it last late at night on March. I got a popular streamer they keep saying, whose real names I don't care. Made a series of posts on X saying she was subject to a home invasion by robbers who wanted crypto is what they were yelling. In November, she posted a screenshot from her Coinbase account showing she held around 211 bitcoin, which was worth around 20 million at the time. The screenshot also showed she held around 80,000 in ether. That's a. That's not a lot of ether. She posted relative to her 20 million of bitcoin. She posted update on March 3, hours after the initial expost where she said there were three gunmen adding a video, presumably from a security camera, after allegedly leading to three men to another section of the property. Three loud noises ring out and the men run off camera. One of the guys is yelling. I think he's yelling, I got shot. I got shot. Yeah. This is crazy. Known for being open about our finances, appearing on YouTube, Stuff, et cetera, et cetera.
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Viva Fry
There is open story. There's open about your finances. They're showing that you have $20 million of the most easily transferable, theftable asset on earth. I mean, and then there's a. There's flexing and then there's rubbing in other people's faces. That's.
- [86:26]
Tim Pool
I. No, I disagree. Those guys weren't going to get away with that money.
- [86:32]
Phil Labonte
No.
- [86:33]
Tim Pool
No way.
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Viva Fry
It depends if they get out of the country beforehand. I mean, they. It was. It's first of all, just letting people that you know that you have bitcoin or substantial portions of bitcoin, you turn yourself into an absolute target, I mean, of the highest order, you or friends and family. I have a, I have a beautiful meteorite fossil, not a fossil, but a meteorite at my place. And I show it off. I think, man, if someone wants that meteorite, they know where to come and get it. But like to say that you have bitcoin, which is just a button away, and then you're deleted and the transaction.
- [87:06]
Tim Pool
Is on the public ledger forever. And anyone can track who took the money and where they spent it. And immediately the feds come kicking your door. And especially with the hum invasion like this. So if these guys, how fast would it take?
- [87:19]
Viva Fry
Sorry, how long would it take you to convert that into cash? If you go to like a bitcoin.
- [87:22]
Tim Pool
Depot or a bank, oh, $20 million. A very, very, very long time. Good luck. You're not going. So here's what they would have had to have done. And I doubt these guys are that sophisticated. Actually, you know what, I'm going to pause. I'm not going to advise on how they could get away with, with something like this by explaining how it could be done. Let me just say the guys who went to her and then tried to get. If presuming they said, transfer this money to us, we are stealing it, they would never get away with it. They would never get away. Life in prison. I, I believe, should this prove to be true, I have no reason to believe that she's, you know, she's making these things up. She posted a ton of video of it. But again, it's, it's still very early. These guys would have killed her, no question. Because you think about $20 million cash, it's a lot of money. You just invaded someone's home, threatened their life with a gun to their head.
- [88:13]
Viva Fry
Pistol, pistol whipped, apparently.
- [88:14]
Tim Pool
Pistol whipped her. You are looking at the rest of your life in prison. You're not getting out. Yep, these three guys. So you have to understand what these guys are probably thinking when they're like, transfer the money, they're going to kill her after they get the money. That minimizes the likelihood they get caught. That being said, bitcoin is a public ledger. And the moment they transfer any money anywhere, everyone in the world, anyone in the world with the slightest ability in tracking the public ledger is going to know who received the money and who took the money. And there are a lot of anonymous accounts. But I will say this first the feds know every single address and who it's attached to. Sorry, crime war. It's a fact. Would they actually intervene in this regard? You know, maybe not. However, private investigators, private individuals could easily track these guys down. They'd never get away with it. There are some moves they could. They could make to obfuscate it, which I'm not going to explain because I feel like it could just help bad people, but for the most part, the moment they make a transaction. Let me explain some of you guys. Bitcoin's on the public ledger. This is why zcash and Monero were invented. These are other cryptocurrencies that can mix up. There are accounts that have tried to bypass this, but we are so past the point, man. They've tried making Bitcoin addresses to bundle up bitcoins and then disperse them in random areas to try and obfuscate where they're coming from and where they're going. It is not complicated for any modern AI system to look at all of the addresses and then create a map of who is receiving money for what. It's just. And not to mention with cell phone data. Have a nice day. Dude, they know who you are. They know all of your addresses. There's a dude named Weave, his hacker name is Andrew. On him. Some journalists just tracked various addresses and then isolated the account they believe to be his based on location, time of time of transfers. They figured out it was in Ukraine and they found this guy. And I could begin the story wrong, but like we have seen, he ingested over $1 million this year in donations through various addresses funneling in. And there's no name on these addresses, but they do really. They do really simple things like where is the person we're looking at located? Then you track time of day, of common transactions. Now you know the time zone they're in. Instantly you'll know. You know you're gonna start finding, piecing these things together. So for the most part, any sufficiently interested private researcher or government is going to immediately find out who took your money now. Doesn't mean you're getting the money back. They could transfer it out, but these guys weren't going anywhere after this.
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Shane Cashman
Seemed like you have to plan out something way more smarter than what they were doing because the video we saw seemed like just some guys running in real quick.
- [91:03]
Tim Pool
You can't live in the United States after this, right? And.
- [91:05]
Shane Cashman
But these are crazy people then.
- [91:07]
Tim Pool
No, they're just stupid. They don't get it.
- [91:08]
Viva Fry
Yeah, they don't think it's like a bank robbery. You smash glass and then steal the jewels and then you make off. But it's not as. What is it?
- [91:16]
Tim Pool
How are you going to trans transfer out all this money from. From Coinbase? I mean not only that, but I have to wonder that Coinbase. Is that what they said? They said she revealed that her Coinbase.
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Viva Fry
Actually hypothetically if it were on a. A hard. I can't pretend that I know what I'm talking about. If it's on a hard wallet, they steal her hard wallet with her whatever password and then. I mean where they're going to get to them is with the.
- [91:38]
Tim Pool
Where do you send the money? Russia. And then you have someone redirect funds another direction. Any sufficiently interested investigator or government agency is going to easily figure this out. Like it's, it's. Have you guys ever. Have you ever heard of Death Note? Yeah, the manga. You know Trump's in it. I didn't know. Death Note is one of the most popular manga ever. One of the popular anime shows, it's about a kid who Shinigami means death God in Japan, drops a notebook in the real world and if you write someone's name in it, they die. You can write how they die within reason. SB within the SB possible. And who cares about that? They released a what's called a one shot update to the. To the series when Trump got elected. And Trump is in it. And in this, a kid gets a copy of the Death Note which allows you to write anyone's name in it.
- [92:31]
Phil Labonte
They die.
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Tim Pool
It's a God weapon. And he announces through anonymous online whatever, I live in Japan. We're going to sell this. We're going to sell this Death Note to the highest bidder. Donald Trump bids something like $60 trillion. America must have the notebook. But then they all say there's no way you're getting the money. He then instructs the United states to deposit $5 million cash into the bank account of every single Japanese citizen. That way nobody knows who the actual person was who was selling it because everybody got the money equally. That's the only. That's, that's the way you have to obfuscate things like this. You steal $20 million, you walk away with a few thousand dollars a month because there's no way you're going to, you're going to. I mean you're going to get the IRS coming down on you when they know. So you're spending money. If you've got $20 million, someone's going to come for you.
- [93:17]
Viva Fry
Now I'm curious about this Death Note thing. Was Trump's name added to that before July 13th?
- [93:23]
Tim Pool
Well, he survived.
- [93:24]
Viva Fry
No, I know, but that's like. I'm thinking, like, there's been a rift and whatever. Whatever the premise of this theory was.
- [93:28]
Tim Pool
If you write a name in the Death Note, they will die. They'll have a heart attack instantly, no matter what. Not instantly. It's like within 28 days or. What is it? Something like that.
- [93:36]
Viva Fry
I've never heard of this, but this.
- [93:37]
Tim Pool
Sounds like they put Trump in it. It was a big deal, went viral among basically everybody. So when.
- [93:42]
Viva Fry
When do you know the date when they put Trump in it?
- [93:44]
Tim Pool
I don't know. It was like, 2017 or 18 or something.
- [93:46]
Viva Fry
Okay.
- [93:46]
Tim Pool
It was everyone. Because Death Note was such a big deal when they announced they were releasing an update, like it's called a one shot, like, epilogue or whatever with Trump in it. Everyone's like, what?
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Viva Fry
It's a ripoff of the Dead Zone or the Twilight Zone from back in the day, where they give a button to somebody and they say, you push this button, somebody on earth will die. You don't know who. You'll never know who, and we give you $10,000. And then the punchline is at the end, after the woman pushes the button, they take the box, say, thank you, here's your money, and we're going to go give it to somebody else. And don't worry, you won't know who they are. But a bing, bada boom. Okay.
- [94:14]
Tim Pool
Kind of. Here you go. Take a look. This is Ryuk, a death God, handing the Death Note to Donald Trump.
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Phil Labonte
Mm.
- [94:20]
Shane Cashman
Wow.
- [94:22]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
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Viva Fry
That's not a flattering depiction of Donald Trump. I don't like that at all.
- [94:26]
Tim Pool
Well, I would call it unflattering.
- [94:28]
Phil Labonte
I can't expect. I couldn't expect them to actually make a flattering picture of when.
- [94:31]
Tim Pool
When these images first got released, people didn't believe it was really. There's no way. Yep. Trump buys the Death Note for some ridiculous amount of money.
- [94:40]
Phil Labonte
I wonder who Trump would. Whose name Trump would write in there first.
- [94:45]
Tim Pool
It was for $500 billion.
- [94:47]
Phil Labonte
That's what Donald Trump hate the most.
- [94:49]
Tim Pool
5. $500 billion, people. Trump bought the Death Note. There you go. It's really small. We'll zoom in. There's old, old Donald Trump.
- [94:58]
Phil Labonte
I don't think it would be Sleepy Joe Biden. I don't think he's already done.
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Viva Fry
Hold on. If. Another totally stupid question. If everything on the bitcoin ledger is publicly accessible, why are they not Able to determine who Satoshi is because the accounts haven't moved. They have not moved since Jack.
- [95:14]
Phil Labonte
It's Jack.
- [95:15]
Tim Pool
The leading theory right now is that it's Jack.
- [95:17]
Viva Fry
How much would it be? How much would it be worth?
- [95:21]
Tim Pool
What is it, like 100 billion or something? What is it, 1 million, 1 million coins in the first wallet or something like that?
- [95:26]
Viva Fry
It hasn't moved, meaning nobody's touched it, transferred, withdrawn, or whatever. So it's just.
- [95:31]
Phil Labonte
It's.
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Viva Fry
It's just wealth sitting out there.
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Phil Labonte
It's an inactive account or. Or wallet. And, and really like all $58 billion, the way it works is you actually just have a code that allows you to move stuff around to make changes to the blockchain. It's not like, like when you have, like your, Your. Your keys are just actually a way so you can change the ledger. Because the blockchain is just a ledger, Right? Just written ins and outs. You're not actually holding on to like some kind of like actual.
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Tim Pool
You're basically sending your password to a system saying, I have access to this. And I'm saying, these go here. And then everyone, all these other computers start checking to make sure your password's correct. And they're like this, heads up, move them. And then the coins get transferred.
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Viva Fry
So conceivably, Satoshi could be dead and that money is never going to get touched.
- [96:19]
Tim Pool
Absolutely. And I mean, furthermore, I had like 20 bitcoin lost on a laptop. I had 21 point something on a laptop and it got destroyed in a fire.
- [96:27]
Viva Fry
I would never get over that, ever. I'm not, I'm not a superficial person. I, My goodness. I like, sometimes once I lost $100 bill. Still haven't gotten over that.
- [96:38]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
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Viva Fry
Son of a Tim.
- [96:40]
Tim Pool
Now that's why it's crazy to me that she has so much bitcoin. Because I'm like, wow. Because I, I, my. I got my first bitcoin at 70 cents.
- [96:47]
Shane Cashman
Wow.
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Tim Pool
And yeah. And it hits five bucks. And I sold them all. And then I got a bunch more and then hit 20 bucks and I sold them all. I remember that was like 100 bucks. And I was like, yeah. And then I sold them all. And then finally when I got to like a thousand, I was like, I better just buy a bunch of these things. And I certainly do not have that much. And I'm just looking at her like I'm jealous. Like, damn.
- [97:06]
Shane Cashman
I could, I could announce how much you have. Like, she did.
- [97:10]
Tim Pool
No, but I certainly don't have that much. Holy crap. Yeah. I Have substantially less than that. We'll put it that way. That's crazy.
- [97:18]
Shane Cashman
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Or maybe I'm lying. I'm worried about someone's breaking in my house and killing me.
- [97:22]
Shane Cashman
Tim's not Satoshi.
- [97:25]
Tim Pool
No, Satoshi is my friend. I mean, Jack Dorsey. Look up. Look. Look it up. You should. You should look into this.
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Phil Labonte
That's actually.
- [97:32]
Shane Cashman
I've heard that theory.
- [97:33]
Phil Labonte
When you. When you actually look at the. The thing. The. The evidence that they have, it's. Yeah, it's. It's as good as any other evidence they have.
- [97:41]
Shane Cashman
A couple people said it was Elon, too. I see people say that on Twitter.
- [97:44]
Phil Labonte
I don't think there's the evidence that it was Elon, but, like, when you. When you read through this, the evidence. The evidence of it being Dorsey, it's.
- [97:52]
Shane Cashman
It's compelling.
- [97:53]
Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean, again, I'm not saying that I have a take on it really, either way, but has he ever been.
- [97:58]
Shane Cashman
Asked, like, does he have a reaction?
- [97:59]
Phil Labonte
I think he has. And he's answered cryptically.
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Viva Fry
So, yeah, it would be worth 58 billion, I believe. Okay, so first.
- [98:07]
Tim Pool
The first. But Satoshi has a number of wallets.
- [98:10]
Viva Fry
Okay. I would say, like, it would be less likely to be Elon because there would be no problem of disclosing that wealth or using it. So there'd be no reason not to use it.
- [98:17]
Tim Pool
No, that's not true.
- [98:18]
Viva Fry
Why?
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Tim Pool
Finding out who started this, who has access to these wallets? I probably can't articulate it as well as the average person, but you're likely going to get apprehended by governments. There's the guy who made the Liberty Dollars. He went to prison. So whoever is responsible for creating this.
- [98:41]
Viva Fry
Oh, I see.
- [98:41]
Tim Pool
The US Government might come after you, right?
- [98:43]
Viva Fry
I. I will come after you like they're coming after Roger Veer, but for different reasons. I'm totally bitcoin illiterate. I've heard everybody explain it. I still don't understand it. I never will understand it.
- [98:54]
Tim Pool
The reason why I don't. Elon and Jack make a lot of sense. If you are already a billionaire, you don't need to move your money in crypto. If you were an individual who made $60,000 a year and came up with this idea to make a cryptocurrency. You came up with the idea, like, what if we just use, like, encryption to create digital scarcity? And then you did, and you're sitting there now and you make $250,000 a year, and you're looking at 100. You know, billion dollars. And you're like, I can't spend it. I can't spend. See that someone would crack, and they'd be like, I made this. But for someone like Dorsey, if he really did make it, he's like, I've already got 300 million in cash sitting around, so I don't need to touch it. What would I buy? So Bitcoin's really easy to explain. All right.
- [99:38]
Viva Fry
I. I dare you, Tim.
- [99:40]
Tim Pool
Okay. There is a password, right, that you have. Okay. Everybody is running a program on their computers that basically is like bankofamerica.com and when you want to have money, you say, I have two passwords. My public address, my account number, and then I have a password to log in. So you tell everybody, here's my account number. You can put money in my account. They do. You then have a password, and you can log in and move the money that appears in your account. That easy. The only difference is that bank of America servers are running on a private company's data center, and Bitcoin is running on every random computer that wants to run the program.
- [100:22]
Viva Fry
Just lost me there.
- [100:22]
Phil Labonte
I'm done.
- [100:23]
Tim Pool
You really get lost by that, I'm telling you.
- [100:25]
Viva Fry
Yeah, well, the one thing that I understand where I said, you know if.
- [100:29]
Tim Pool
It'S a play World of Warcraft.
- [100:31]
Viva Fry
No.
- [100:31]
Tim Pool
You know what World of Warcraft is?
- [100:32]
Viva Fry
No, I know what Super Mario Brothers and Contras.
- [100:35]
Tim Pool
Okay.
- [100:36]
Viva Fry
Is World of Warcraft a video game or a card game?
- [100:38]
Tim Pool
The video game. No. Have you ever played. Have you ever used America Online?
- [100:44]
Viva Fry
Aol? Yeah, I'm familiar with the name.
- [100:46]
Tim Pool
Everybody logs in, right? And then they all can. You can talk to each other. Congratulations. That's the. That's the basic function. There you go. That's Bitcoin.
- [100:54]
Viva Fry
That's fair enough. Okay, fine. All that I understand now is that when I. When I asked the question, like, if it has no inherent value and you. You can't print more of them, but you can mine more of them, you know, then. Then why is it worth anything? And then someone said, well, you basically just described fiat currency as well. So why is there any value to money, especially if it's not tied to gold?
- [101:10]
Tim Pool
But then, even if so. So first there's a program, right? The program dictates how many Bitcoin there will be. Very simple. There will be 21 million. We're at like, what, 19 million already?
- [101:22]
Phil Labonte
Something like that. Yeah.
- [101:24]
Tim Pool
It's to. To get a block or whatever, which is Bitcoin. Like, so what is a miner? You are running a Computer trying to guess a number. Simple, simple way to describe it. The computer says, I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 700 billion. Whoever guesses it will get, you know, 7 bitcoin or whatever. The number goes down every, every couple of years is a happening where you don't need to understand any of this stuff to know how bitcoin operates. This is just the nitty gritty stuff. Every so often I think now it's like three bitcoin, three point something. I could be wrong. Every couple of years, the amount of bitcoin you receive from solving the. Solving an equation reduces. Everybody's running big rigs trying to solve equations to win blocks in the ledger in the blockchain. So that means why does bitcoin have value? It's backed by electricity. How much electricity does it take to solve an equation? Let's say, let's say it was $100. I spent $100 on my electric bill for my GPUs to solve this equation and generate one bitcoin. I cannot sell that bitcoin for less than $100 because of the cost to produce it. There you go. So the price can only go up because of natural attrition. Bitcoins get lost, disappear, and can't be recovered. And because every couple of years, the amount of bitcoin you receive versus the amount of energy you put in goes down by half. So we do see a price doubling periodically. Theoretically, you know, if we get to that point, which we're not going to get to the end of Bitcoin, 21 million. I think it's like 100 and something years. So all that really matters is it is a false scarcity created by cryptography. There is a password on each coin that you have that could be assigned to you. And for this reason it cannot be copied unless someone has your password and they could hack the system or whatever. But that's not. There you go. And so it's digital scarcity. There you go.
- [103:15]
Viva Fry
Well, that actually answers the environmental question, right. I first didn't understand why people were saying like it's not green to bitcoin. Because I understand actually the running, running Internet to try to solve the equation.
- [103:28]
Tim Pool
But you, but they're setting up mines at waterfalls and, you know, hydro plants. So they get basically just dirt cheap energy.
- [103:36]
Viva Fry
That's wild.
- [103:37]
Tim Pool
All right, everybody, we're gonna go to super Chat, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, Join Rumble Premium, that uncensored calling show. I got a couple special ones for you. We're gonna talk a little bit more about the amaranth story because we do have some other stuff that's not so family friendly. So we got video and it's pretty dang interesting. That's gonna be@rumble.com timcast irl. Use promo code TIM10. Sign up now. And if you want to call into the show, go to timcast.com and join the Discord server. 20,000 plus people building community, launching podcasts, calling into the show. Here we go. Michael Brown says, hi. Hi, good people. Howdy, Albatra. He says the float of Elon in Germany is the final straw. I've seen enough. The US is the last stand of Western values. Pull out of NATO now. Interesting. Jason Dixon says, can I please get a shout out to your Discord and the podcast that comes from this community we are networking. The quiet part. Podcast is from your Discord shout outs. That's right. Go to timcast.com right now. Click join us. Sign up. You will get access to our Discord community of over 20,000 individuals. If you ever. If you're wondering how to go beyond just watching this show, you watch this show. You said there's really interest stuff, interesting stuff. How do I get involved? Timcast.com Discord because there's over 20,000 people hanging out more than that now. They've launched podcasts, they're working on video games, they're making comic books, art, movies, et cetera. You can get active in this community and that's what we're hoping you do. If everybody who is watching right now signed up, got in the Discord server, started working with other people to build and network, we'd win the midterms. We win 20, 28, easy. The issue is people who. It's not meant to be disrespectful, but a lot of people are passive. They'll watch the news and they'll say, good to know. And they don't do anything much beyond that. All I'm saying is make friends with other people in whatever way you can. The Discord server is just one way to do that. We've got staff who help run it and bring people in. And it's one way to go one step beyond just being a passive observer and being an active player in the news stories. So there you go, Jason. All right.
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Viva Fry
I just went to look up the image of the float they seem to have in Germany. Put a depicted Elon as, can I say the swastika, apparently. Swastika?
- [105:53]
Phil Labonte
Yeah. You know, I thought it was illegal in Germany, but Apparently, if you're. If you're dunking on Elon Musk, it's not so illegal.
- [105:59]
Viva Fry
I want to make sure I understand the context of it before commentating, but I just went to see what was on. Their Libs of TikTok had retweeted it, so.
- [106:04]
Tim Pool
It's all right. Kane. Abel says, tim, when are we going to see arrests? All we see is them resigning and nothing else. The AG Bondi needs to arrest these criminals to show transparency. It's been. It's been a month. Okay. I don't think we're gonna see a lot of arrests. I think we might see some maybe, but it's been a month, so. Look, Cash has already launched an investigation into Comey. You guys saw this? The honey pots thing he was working on?
- [106:29]
Shane Cashman
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [106:29]
Tim Pool
I mean, come on, let's go.
- [106:32]
Shane Cashman
Yeah, dude.
- [106:32]
Tim Pool
I. Dan Bongino, as deputy FBI director is.
- [106:35]
Viva Fry
It's glorious.
- [106:36]
Tim Pool
Oh, my God, man. You know, like, I was. It's like. I don't. I. I don't know who would have been better. Like, when. When. When Matt Gates was named AG and we got all excited. Dan Bongino's deputy FBI director is like, on that same level of. This dude's gonna come in like a bulldozer. That.
- [106:53]
Phil Labonte
That. I mean, that's what people voted for, too.
- [106:55]
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah.
- [106:56]
Phil Labonte
They want to see significant change in the bureaucracy, Definitely. At the FBI, you don't want to see Americans being singled out for their religious views or for prayer in public or for having the audacity to go to a parent teacher meeting about your. You know, worrying about what your kids are being taught in school.
- [107:14]
Tim Pool
All right, the real hydro says, Tim, how will you explain to your child that you dress the same way every day? The beanie is who you are. Why not dress different with the beanie? I have. I have seasons. I have seasons. So a few months ago, it was the. For like. For maybe, like, fall and winter, I was wearing the black button up. I periodically had the baseball T shirt. I think that was in the fall a little bit. Now we're in the colder season. It is the hoodie. And then once summer comes around, I'll probably go back to the baseball tee, you know. Layers. Yeah, layers.
- [107:44]
Viva Fry
The only clothing you need to change daily, necessarily socks and underwear. You can get away with your pants and your shirt, your shirt. You can get away with one extra day. Pants, maybe if they're jeans.
- [107:53]
Phil Labonte
Three socks.
- [107:55]
Viva Fry
In terms of more than once a day. Or wear them.
- [107:58]
Phil Labonte
You can actually. If you. If you get nice Wool socks you can go a couple days without nice.
- [108:03]
Viva Fry
And wool are mutually incompatible.
- [108:05]
Phil Labonte
No, no.
- [108:06]
Viva Fry
That's like the itchiest thing.
- [108:07]
Tim Pool
I've never.
- [108:08]
Viva Fry
I've never met a pair of unitsy wool socks.
- [108:09]
Tim Pool
Not to mention, like, ice skate. Every day. My socks are soaking wet.
- [108:14]
Shane Cashman
Yeah, God changed those.
- [108:15]
Tim Pool
Drenched in sweat, everything. My whole body, just sweat. I just throw them stick to the wall. I'm kidding. Yeah, yeah. No way. How will I explain it to my child? I. I don't think I will have to.
- [108:28]
Shane Cashman
I don't know the child.
- [108:29]
Viva Fry
It's gonna be like, kids wear the same thing every day, for goodness sake. They're gonna feel comfortable, someone who doesn't change their clothes.
- [108:35]
Tim Pool
Well, I suppose when my child is old enough to speak and comes to me and goes, father, why are you wearing the same clothes again? I'll be like, why are you talking like that? I'm kidding. My kid's not gonna be British. All right, where are we at? Mr. Vintage says need to remind everyone of the dozens of articles in the Mainstream Press circa 2018, 2022, howling about the Neo Nazi militia groups in Ukraine. Now they are outraged we don't underwrite them. Yep, that's funny. Let's see. Chop sock, he says, hey, Viva. Locals is great, but watch how easy it is to transition directly to Rumble Premium without having to use the awful Locals video interface.
- [109:16]
Viva Fry
They're two different. They're going to be still two different. Not markets, but two different communities. Locals is going to be one distinct community and Rumble Premium another one for those who want to. There's much more to the locals community than.
- [109:28]
Tim Pool
Right. Locals is like, they're funding you directly.
- [109:31]
Viva Fry
Locals, yeah, there.
- [109:32]
Tim Pool
There.
- [109:32]
Viva Fry
There's some.
- [109:33]
Tim Pool
Which is the same thing.
- [109:34]
Viva Fry
Premium is the same thing. It's just that I. There's more. Locals is more like, written stuff for video content, direct interaction. Rumble Premium is. You get exclusive content on Rumble. It's two different products, but both equally awesome. But Locals is awesome.
- [109:50]
Tim Pool
I. I think Rumble is going to take off.
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Viva Fry
Absolutely. There's a shift in these Zeitgeist Trump. I mean, it's just a shame, you know, Bongino has to now go be deputy director of the FBI. So there's. He's, you know, that value from Rumble is, you know, temporarily on pause. But he'll come back and, well, his audience will be there if.
- [110:12]
Tim Pool
If Chris and the crew over at Rumble can navigate properly. Right now, you take a look at Spotify desperately trying to play catch up in the podcasting game, and they are way behind Rumble now for music, Spotify is king, right? Everyone knows that their stock is like 600 bucks. Rumble stock is like 9 bucks right now or something. But there's a reason Spotify is desperately trying to do video podcasting. Rumble already has it. So I'll keep it simple. We, we, we have our audio podcast now, video on Spotify. We do like 30,000 downloads on that. And I'm like, okay, it's fine, I guess. And you know, with all due respect to Spotify, they were telling us we're actually a very big show in news and politics. And they were like, we really wanted to get you on because your show does so well. And I was like, we do way more on YouTube and on Apple. Spotify's kind of low. And then we launch on Rumble and we're getting 250 to 300,000 on rumble. And so it's like the first day we're on Rumble obviously will be big, but then in the first week we're doing 10 times what Spotify does. Why would someone launch a podcast on Spotify? And I got to say this. So that's why it's really to come down to, can the crew at Rumble navigate this PR wise. Because right now I believe it's fair to say it's a fact if you launch a podcast on Spotify, you're going to get a fraction of the download streams views you're going to get to. Whereas if you launched on Rumble, if you launched video podcasting on YouTube, you're going to get zero. You launch video podcasting on Rumble, you're going to start off with a couple, like literally a random nobody. You're going to have views. So I'm looking at that and I'm like, if they can maximize that and explain to podcasters there's more audience here than on these other platforms, it'll be huge. The other thing is, you guys should download the Rumble app. Download the Rumble app. Easy listening. Very good. And the market's changing too. No longer are we, are we doing ad reads based on platforms. It used to be like back in the day it'd be like, we'll, we'll advertise on Apple, we'll advertise on Spobble. Spotify will advertise on YouTube. Now it's because there's so many different platforms. It's just video streams and audio downloads because there's like 73 different platforms. So now it's like, what's your total reach? It's weird. So Rumbles, Rumble's primed, baby. It's going to be a question of are they going to pull it off. But they certainly have a major opportunity. That's why we want to do a deal with them. We were like, you guys, they're ahead of everybody on this one. YouTube actually banned video podcasts. Can you believe it?
- [112:48]
Phil Labonte
Crazy.
- [112:48]
Tim Pool
They were suppressing and shutting down video podcasters for. For nearly a decade and Rumble was built to accommodate them. And now Spotify is trying to invest massively in this. I'm telling you, I don't know. I'm gonna rant. I don't wanna rant on that because I just. I'll keep going. Here we go. Pulleyan says heaven received a new angel today. My kitty Chili passed away today at the age of 15. Adopted in October 2010. Please give your fur babies an extra treat and hug today. I'm sorry to hear it today, Seamus, we gave him some fresh salmon and he loved it. Yes. I call him James now, though, because I don't respect the Irish. I'm kidding. I am Irish.
- [113:30]
Shane Cashman
Seamus Coughlin just appeared in the room.
- [113:32]
Tim Pool
But that, that was a joke. I said to Seamus, I was like, we're calling him James now because Seamus and James, obviously it's the Anglo and the, you know, Irish, but I literally just call him James.
- [113:43]
Shane Cashman
That's funny.
- [113:44]
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's. The cat's name is James now. It makes it easy because we don't got to do Seamus one and shame is two anymore. All right, what have we here? Scott column says Zelensky entered office promising peace and he tried in the beginning. Azov threatened his life if he made a deal. It's widely reported. If he makes a deal, he's a dead man. He got in over his head.
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Viva Fry
I'm telling you. He's going to go down as the modern day or the, you know, Yasser Arafat 2.0. He's in a position where he cannot make a peace deal and where he's going to have nowhere to go to flee after. He's not welcome in Ukraine anymore.
- [114:17]
Tim Pool
Interesting. We had a lot of people chatting, saying Yasser airfares. Exact same thing.
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Viva Fry
Yeah, very much. Which why the peace negotiations are. They're almost insincere, disingenuous, and oddly enough to the detriment of his own people as well. They're going to run out of people to send to the front line in.
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Shane Cashman
Ukraine if they have wind up in California.
- [114:33]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
All right, Adam Ro. Poseidon says save it for the uncensored is now a joke. I love the rant reads and the call ins. But in the new format, we've lost the exclusive content after callers. Y'all just sign off. We want uncensored. We have the green room show. That's. That's. So we've. We've added an additional podcast a Monday through Friday even, where we. We hang out and kind of just say whatever we want behind the scenes and talk about whatever. So maybe we can try and make it a bit more, I don't know, humorous, I guess. But that's why I keep telling everybody, go watch the green room show, because that's where we're hanging out. Behind the scenes, people are telling their stories and they can literally just say whatever they want.
- [115:12]
Viva Fry
Is the person's complaint that it's not edgy enough or there's not enough offensive content?
- [115:16]
Tim Pool
The before, when we weren't really doing the green, like we were doing the green for a while, it fell off the way it used to be was that after the show ended, the uncensored show was like 10 minutes of a story with us kind of just riffing. And then we bring in callers. Now we're just bringing in call like we're. We're doing a few minutes of rumble rants and then bringing in callers. But I will add to that if the rumble rants have points to be made that bring up the conversation. And so we do have an uncensored portion for you tonight. Considering the amaranth story, there's stuff that's not so family friendly, which we're going to give about, you know, good solid 10 minutes to. And talk about and show the video and all that stuff. It's, you know, so you'll see. You'll see. But, yeah, uncensored is still uncensored. The Collins are still uncensored. They.
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Viva Fry
What they're saying is they want to see m. Or what's her name? Amaru Amaranth. They want to see her only fans page in the after party.
- [116:05]
Tim Pool
Ah, well, that's. You got to pay for that. That's. That's not something we can accommodate. All right, we'll grab a couple more here. Captain winkle says, I am from Mexico City, now a U. S. Citizen, and just found out through Tucker Carlson, Ukraine is selling U. S. Weapons to the cartels. Yeah, and a black market just in general. I've heard that they were basically just taking US Materials and just selling them off.
- [116:29]
Shane Cashman
We had a former president doing the same thing.
- [116:32]
Viva Fry
He wasn't selling. He would just abandon them so that they could then be taken and sold Off. He didn't do it.
- [116:37]
Shane Cashman
Well, Obama and Fast and Furious.
- [116:39]
Viva Fry
Oh, yes.
- [116:39]
Shane Cashman
Yes.
- [116:40]
Tim Pool
Robert Rogers says, are we on the wrong side? The EU and UK arrest for memes and praying and protect pedo grape rings. Grapes. They no longer line up with our ideals. Russia, on the other hand, kind of does somewhat.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [116:57]
Tim Pool
Vladimir Putin.
- [116:58]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [116:58]
Tim Pool
Is.
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Viva Fry
I think there's. There's an element. People want to lionize Putin because of the degree to which we've been lied to. They now assume that not only is he not a villain, but he must be a hero.
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Phil Labonte
Oh, no. Villain. He's definitely.
- [117:08]
Tim Pool
He's.
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Viva Fry
He's a. He's a freaking politician. There are very few politicians on earth or governments on earth that you should ever trust. And it's not because you happen to be Jewish that you're going to trust the Israeli government any more than you're American. You're going to trust the American government.
- [117:19]
Phil Labonte
Open. Like, he's killed multiple people that were critical of him. People in press. He's used, like, radiation and poison.
- [117:27]
Shane Cashman
People just jump off.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah. Throwing people out. Putin is like, there is. There is no. No way for. For, like. It doesn't make any sense to say that our values align more with Putin's. It's fine to say that the UK or that Europe has become an illiberal place, that they are now starting to institute, you know, blasphemy laws. If you say things about the. About Islam, they're going to throw you in jail. Because it's easier throwing you in jail than throwing all the people that are Muslim in jail. They're gonna. They're gonna say that you can't have certain opinions. If you post things on the Internet, those things are. Are terrible, and we should condemn them. But that. That doesn't mean that we should say, oh, no, Russia is actually good. No, it's not. Putin is not a good guy. He's not. He's not.
- [118:14]
Tim Pool
It's.
- [118:14]
Phil Labonte
We don't want to be on his.
- [118:15]
Tim Pool
He keeps pulling this bouncing back and forth from, like, what, President, prime minister? Because he's not supposed to be in power, and he's just lying his way to stay in power.
- [118:22]
Phil Labonte
You're making the same mistake Barack Obama made.
- [118:24]
Viva Fry
Well, no, I think people want to view him as a benevolent dictator. So say, yeah, sure, he's. He's hard and ruthless and whatever, but at least he keeps stability in order. Bottom line, the people. Everyone who he whacked, you know, they shouldn't have mowed off like that.
- [118:35]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [118:35]
Tim Pool
All right, here we go. Luffy. The sun God says, take it from someone who is the biggest One Piece fan in the uk. Luffy is fighting against the One World Government. He's an anarchist, if anything, but he's also a hero. You know what I mean? Like, heroes are very distinct in their ethos and how they treat bad guys. I could never watch One Piece, though. I just find it so awful. The animation is just like the budget was 10, 10 cents.
- [119:02]
Phil Labonte
It was bad.
- [119:02]
Tim Pool
It's very bad.
- [119:04]
Viva Fry
And yet somehow south park is among the best animated cartoon.
- [119:08]
Tim Pool
Intentionally, like in that weird style. I don't know, man. I've tried to watch One Piece and I just cannot get into it. Everyone keeps telling me it's like so good. And it is, I think, like the most popular anime manga right now in the world. And I'm just like. That being said, Naruto. What. What happened there? They were like, let's make a show about ninjas. And now it's aliens. And I'm just like, okay. And that fell off. But you know, welcome to Japan.
- [119:29]
Phil Labonte
Whatever's clever.
- [119:30]
Shane Cashman
Interested now?
- [119:31]
Tim Pool
All right, my friends. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Go to rumble.com timcast IRL that uncensored call in show is coming up in about 30 seconds. Well, we're gonna do a minute or so of outros and then It'll be about 30 seconds. But we're gonna. We're gonna deep dive in the amaranth story uncensored because we got some stuff to talk about. Not so family friendly, so you don't want to miss it again. You can go to rumble.com timcast IRL if you're not already there. And we're gonna go over to that uncensored show in a few few seconds. Follow me on X and Instagram at Tim cast Viva. You wanna shout anything out?
- [120:02]
Viva Fry
Viva Fry on Rumble. Vivabarnslaw.locals.com the Viva Fry. For someone who swears an awful lot on Twitter, I've. I've reached my limit of polite tolerance of idiocy.
- [120:13]
Shane Cashman
You can find me everywhere online at Shane Cashman, the show's Inverted world live on YouTube and rumble on YouTube. We are about a thousand away from hitting 40,000 or 50,000 subscribers. I forget. Maybe 50 or 40. You forget. But there are 39 episodes in, so it's pretty sweet. If you can find us on there, subscribe, like share it. Well, we'll see you there.
- [120:33]
Viva Fry
What's up?
- [120:34]
Phil Labonte
I am Phil. That remains on Twix. You can subscribe to my X page there. I am Phil. It remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. Our new record dropped on January 31. It is called Antifragile. You can check it out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lanes for crime.
- [120:51]
Tim Pool
We will see you all over@rumble.com Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.