Timcast IRL – Ep. "Trump Kills 11 Narco Terrorists, Democrats Warn War With Venezuela Coming"

Date: September 4, 2025
Guests: Gavin McInnes, Elad Eliyahu, Phil Labonte
Host: Tim Pool

Episode Overview

This episode centers on major breaking news: the Trump administration’s release of a video showing the killing of 11 alleged Venezuelan narco-terrorists, and the subsequent political and geopolitical fallout. The panel discusses the possibility of escalated conflict with Venezuela, American drug policy, generational decline, the collapse of Vice Media, and social trends shaping the United States today. Gavin McInnes, founder of Vice and the Proud Boys, joins for a vigorous discussion that veers from narco wars and foreign policy to deep dives into media, culture, and masculinity.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Strike on Narco Terrorists

• [00:06] Tim Pool kicks off by detailing the Trump administration's actions: a U.S. airstrike against a boat allegedly carrying Venezuelan drug cartel members, killing 11. Trump released video of the incident to the public.
• Pool points out the irony that Democrats, who usually oppose U.S. military action, are suddenly critical of Trump’s attack on drug traffickers, accusing him of murder.
  • “It is funny to see that Trump has now gotten the Democrats to get behind tren Aragua and drug cartels.” — Tim Pool [00:06]
• Pool expresses skepticism but notes that when the U.S. government voluntarily releases strike footage, it's likely a legitimate target.
  • “You get these military actions in Eastern Europe or the Middle east and then these pro military industrial complex neolibs are just like, no, that's fine... The one time you can probably expect the government not to be lying about the strike is when they publish the video and tell you we did it.” — Tim Pool [08:31]

Cartel Impact & Drug Policy

• McInnes is adamantly in favor of action if it disrupts fentanyl trafficking, though he makes a distinction between deadly drugs.
  • “If he was getting guys that were bringing fentanyl to the west... thank God he did that. But I think we have to differentiate exactly what was on this boat. Cuz if it was coke with no fentanyl, well, yeah, I'm glad you got those guys. We totally don't want cocaine in America. No way, Jose.” — Gavin McInnes [09:10]
• Lively debate about the moral and societal cost of various drugs (fentanyl vs. cocaine vs. weed), with consensus that fentanyl is the true villain.

2. Will There Be War With Venezuela?

• [24:20] They transition to the threat of escalation, with Venezuela promising retaliation and U.S. Democrats warning of inadvertent war.
  • “The argument being that Maduro is not going to tolerate the US Military operations in the Caribbean and then the US Is going to stumble. I don't think it's stumbling. I think the US Intentionally will be like, time to go in, boys.” — Tim Pool [24:09]
• McInnes toyingly advocates for U.S. resource colonialism (“Let’s invade Venezuela... I’m not joking.” [24:46]) and criticizes Venezuela’s misuse of vast oil resources.
• Elad provides a serious strategic analysis, listing regime change as beneficial to U.S. economic and immigration interests:
  • “First of all, these cartels are terrorist organizations... we've been having a military buildup outside of Venezuela. There’s a lot of reasons why regime change would make sense there... we have the correct oil refineries for Venezuelan oil.” — Elad Eliyahu [27:14]
• Pool jokes about clandestine U.S. support for revolutions via USAID and notes the hypocrisy of using “international aid” as a cover for intervention.

3. American Degeneracy & Generational Decline

• [33:22+] The group laments Gen Z's lack of work ethic and the declining fertility crisis:
  • “Gen Alpha is half the size of Gen Z, so it's a mathematical impossibility to recover unless Gen Alpha has six kids each.” — Tim Pool [33:22]
• Discussion about ‘behavioral sync’ and the rat utopia experiment, drawing analogies to why successful nations stop reproducing and collapse culturally.
• McInnes injects race and immigration arguments, decrying “cousin marriage” in immigrant groups and claiming demographic quality decline:
  • “When you take our best asset, not cousin breeding, and you import the worst part of the rest of the world, you have this poop soup.” — Gavin McInnes [38:16]
• Discussion pivots to Gen Z and Gen Alpha’s work and math skills, with anecdotes about workplace incapacity (e.g., kids unable to make change or put out a fire).

4. Media, Censorship, and the Fall of Vice

• [73:48+] Pool and McInnes recount inside stories from Vice’s rise and catastrophic collapse.
  • Vice’s pivot from edgy punk journalism to woke/feminist technocracy attributed to outside pressure and internal scandal.
  • McInnes describes the original company culture as wild but fun, not predatory—a claim complicated by later lawsuits and settlements.
• Notable quote:
  • “I resent that whole culture, bro culture accusation because Vice was built on, like, the Clash. It was built on punk rock... what I've been told later is that Shane was regularly... sexually assaulting women under my nose.” — Gavin McInnes [76:24]

The Business of New Media

• McInnes and Pool describe the economics of digital media and podcasting in detail, including ad rates, community revenue, and the existential risks of tech censorship.
  • Pool reveals revenue breakdowns and the thin margins on producing independent media, even with multi-million dollar revenues.
  • “Tim Cast IRL can't exist without my morning show subsidizing it. Tim Cast IRL is too expensive to exist.” — Tim Pool [57:46]

5. Anecdotes, Lifestyle, and Masculine Banter

• Throughout the episode, the tone alternates between serious commentary and raunchy, irreverent humor.
• McInnes relays stories from the NYC hipster days, the founding of Vice, and various sex and drug exploits in the 90s/00s.
• Debate over how many hours per day Pool should work, with McInnes advocating work-life balance for fatherhood (“I think your fans would be happy with two hours a day.” [50:03])
• Pool insists on his sense of mission: “There’s so much wrong with this country in this world right now... sometimes the ship is sinking and I’m bailing water...” [50:40]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Drug War & Policy

• “All drugs are bad. And even pure cocaine... that stuff's just as bad as fentanyl. So get it out of here. No way, Jose.” — Gavin McInnes [09:48]
• “Weed, cocaine, caffeine, fentanyl... It's a scale, right? I'm not going to sit here and tell people to buy pure caffeine and go do a bump.” — Tim Pool [10:50]
• On legalizing cocaine: “Legalization... looks great on paper... I love it. And then I saw, like, Colorado with legalization of pot. I'm driving down the 95 in New York and I smell it coming into my car.” — Gavin McInnes [14:10]

On Venezuela & U.S. Intervention

• “Regime change in Venezuela... You should encourage the Venezuelan people to rise up against their fascistic...” — Elad Eliyahu [28:13]
• “If we want to avoid full scale war with Venezuela... What if the US just... allocated through Congress, funds to a U.S. organization that operate under the guise of international aid, but was actually fomenting revolution in foreign countries?” — Tim Pool [28:26]

On Gen Z, Work Ethic, and Social Collapse

• “You guys did get dug into a hole, but you also have to be able to eat poop to get out of that hole.” — Gavin McInnes [63:57]
• “They said, hey, get off the grid, be sustainable... Farmland was gifted to the occupiers... How long do you think they lasted? Two weeks.” — Tim Pool [65:11]

On Vice, Media & Money

• “With Vice, I made $10 million... But I've said this before, I've explained it before and you know, some people get mad at me for saying it. If I didn't do Tim Cast IRL and literally only did my morning show, I'd probably make 5 million a year with zero staff and no overhead.” — Tim Pool [53:12]
• “He told me this story once. He's having dinner with this woman... she goes like this [holds out hand]. That means, put your hand in mine... He told me himself, ‘We ate our way to the top. He would bone all these sales girls.’” — Gavin McInnes [96:59]

On Censorship & Platform Dependence

• “It's a fact that all of my YouTube channels were removed from Google... And it was only a couple years ago when I was talking about on the show that it finally got lifted live... If I launch a new YouTube channel, I bet none of those restrictions will exist.” — Tim Pool [41:40]

Timestamps for Notable Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|---------------| | 00:06 | Trump’s narco-terrorist strike and video release | | 09:10 | McInnes on drug hierarchy: “cocaine vs. fentanyl” | | 24:20 | Will Trump start a war with Venezuela? | | 27:14 | U.S. interests in Venezuela and regime change logic | | 33:22 | Birthrate crisis; Gen Alpha, Gen Z, work ethic decline | | 38:16 | Gavin’s take on “cousin marriage” & U.S. demographics | | 50:03 | Debate over Tim Pool’s work-life balance | | 57:46 | The economics of podcasts and media sustainability | | 73:48 | The inside story of Vice's rise and collapse | | 96:59 | McInnes reveals Vice’s early sales tactics | | 117:03 | The lost virtues of bar culture and founding fathers |

Language & Tone

• Unfiltered, unapologetic, and often laced with off-color humor or risky analogies.
• Banter among the hosts and guests is frank, sometimes confrontational, and occasionally self-deprecating.
• The show’s independent, anti-mainstream spirit is constantly on display, as is the willingness to offend.

Conclusion

This episode delivers a whirlwind tour through pressing headlines—the U.S. strike on narco-terrorists, looming conflict with Venezuela, generational dysfunction, and the inner machinery of modern media. Personal stories from Gavin McInnes about the wild days (and fall) of Vice add color, as do the panel’s raucous tangents on drugs, masculinity, and the dark ironies of U.S. policy. For longtime listeners, it’s a heady, provocative mix of commentary and gonzo storytelling.

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