Trump Orders DOJ To FIRE EVERY Biden Attorney, Calls For CLEAN HOUSE w/Siaka Massaquoi

Summary

Timcast IRL: Trump Orders DOJ To FIRE EVERY Biden Attorney, Calls For CLEAN HOUSE w/Siaka Massaquoi – February 19, 2025

Hosts: Tim Pool, Ian Crossland, Libby Emmons
Guest: Saka Massaquai

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1. Trump’s Directive to DOJ and Democratic Backlash

Timestamp: [07:11]
Discussion:
The episode opens with Saka Massaquai discussing former President Donald Trump's announcement on Truth Social, where he orders the Department of Justice (DOJ) to dismiss all remaining Biden-era U.S. attorneys. This move is presented as an effort to "clean house" and restore confidence in the justice system. The Democrats, however, vehemently oppose this action, labeling it a coup and even suggesting unconventional claims, such as Elon Musk being the true or co-president.

Notable Quote:
Saka Massaquai: "Donald Trump has ordered the DOJ to fire all remaining Biden U.S. attorneys... Democrats are freaking out, claiming that Donald Trump has seized the government in a coup." [07:43]

2. Eric Adams and the Struggle Against DOJ Investigations

Timestamp: [09:36]
Discussion:
The conversation shifts to New York City Mayor Eric Adams, who began defying the Biden administration's immigration policies in 2022. This defiance led to DOJ investigations and raids on his offices. Trump’s subsequent collaboration with Adams to reform immigration enforcement is portrayed as a strategic move to weaken Democratic control. Democrats in New York are reportedly planning to remove Adams from office through procedural maneuvers, highlighting the deep political divisions and alleged corruption within the system.

Notable Quote:
Saka Massaquai: "It is very obvious Eric Adams was only investigated and charges were only brought because he was defying the Biden administration on immigration." [09:35]

3. RFK Jr.'s Advocacy and DOJ's Reactive Measures

Timestamp: [11:07]
Discussion:
RFK Jr. is highlighted for his recent announcements targeting various issues, including government corruption and defense against perceived overreach. The DOJ's response includes the removal of several prosecutors who resigned over dropped indictments related to Adams, suggesting internal shifts and potential retaliation within the department.

Notable Quote:
Saka Massaquai: "We need to clean. Just clean this all up." [11:36]

4. West Virginia’s Restrictive Contracting Laws

Timestamp: [07:20]
Discussion:
A significant portion of the discussion focuses on West Virginia’s stringent laws against independent contracting. Saka Massaquai shares his personal struggles with these regulations, which prohibit individuals from working as independent contractors (1099) and instead require them to be classified as employees (W2). This legislation poses severe challenges for freelancers, small business owners, and creatives who rely on flexible work arrangements.

Notable Quote:
Saka Massaquai: "These Uber laws they're called, are ripping away the right of individuals to work in this country. They're currently in 34 states." [07:23]

5. Broader Implications: 34 States Enacting Similar Laws

Timestamp: [09:35]
Discussion:
The conversation broadens to address the nationwide trend of states adopting restrictive worker classification laws. These laws undermine the gig economy, making it difficult for individuals to offer services across multiple platforms without facing legal repercussions. The hosts express concern over the stifling of entrepreneurial efforts and the increasing control of the government over personal employment choices.

Notable Quote:
Saka Massaquai: "We are moving towards... forcing people to... have to be our slaves in the state." [12:00]

6. Trump’s Economic Policies: Tariffs and Domestic Production

Timestamp: [49:52]
Discussion:
Trump’s announcement of imposing new tariffs on automobiles, potentially 25% or higher, is discussed as part of a broader strategy to restructure global trade and encourage domestic manufacturing. The hosts advocate for these measures as a means to bolster American industries and reduce dependency on foreign imports, aligning with nationalist economic principles.

Notable Quote:
Ian Crossland: "Trump says auto tariffs will be 25% or higher to begin April 2nd. This is huge. I'm in favor of it." [50:05]

7. Cultural Decline and the Erosion of Traditional Values

Timestamp: [85:34]
Discussion:
A heated segment delves into the perceived cultural decline, emphasizing the loss of traditional Christian values and the rise of progressive ideologies in education, media, and politics. The hosts argue that this shift has led to weakened family structures, increased governmental dependency, and a society less focused on personal responsibility and moral foundations.

Notable Quote:
Saka Massaquai: "We need to get back to being biblical Americans... the foundation is in Jesus Christ." [85:16]

8. Generational Shifts and Responsibility

Timestamp: [75:50]
Discussion:
The discussion transitions to generational dynamics, critiquing younger generations for perceived reluctance to take on adult responsibilities. The hosts express frustration over cultural narratives that perpetuate dependency and discourage self-sufficiency, linking this behavior to broader societal and economic issues.

Notable Quote:
Ian Crossland: "Humans are adults at 18 years old... Gen Z, you're all adults and you're losers because you're not taking responsibility." [108:57]

9. Conclusion and Call to Action

Timestamp: [119:34]
Discussion:
In the closing segment, the hosts reiterate their stance against restrictive labor laws and cultural shifts, urging listeners to resist governmental overreach and embrace traditional values. They emphasize the importance of personal responsibility, entrepreneurial spirit, and maintaining moral foundations to ensure societal resilience.

Notable Quote:
Ian Crossland: "This law is now... it’s going to be like, 'Hey, dad, can I borrow 50 bucks to get a license to get a job?' And you're going to say, 'Oh, you're filing your worker requirements. Permit it.'" [120:34]

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Key Takeaways:

• Government Overreach: Concerns about DOJ actions under Trump’s administration and the retaliatory measures by Democrats illustrate deep political tensions.
• Labor Laws Impact: West Virginia’s strict contracting laws symbolize a broader threat to the gig economy and individual employment flexibility across multiple states.
• Economic Nationalism: Trump’s proposed tariffs are viewed as strategic moves to strengthen domestic industries and reduce foreign dependency.
• Cultural Shifts: The erosion of traditional values and increased governmental control are seen as detrimental to personal responsibility and societal stability.
• Generational Responsibilities: Younger generations are critiqued for lacking the willingness to assume adult responsibilities, contributing to societal and economic challenges.

Final Thoughts:
This episode of Timcast IRL features a robust discussion on the intersection of politics, economics, and culture, emphasizing the need for resistance against governmental overreach and advocacy for traditional, individualistic values to foster a resilient and self-sufficient society.

Transcript

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[Ian Crossland]

Donald Trump has ordered the DOJ to fire all remaining Biden U.S. attorneys. Prosecutors saying that the government was weaponized against him and it's time to clean house. Of course, as per usual, Democrats are freaking out, claiming that Donald Trump has seized the government in a coup and that Elon Musk is the actual president or co president or whatever. How fun. In the meantime, as Donald Trump has begun working with Eric Adams to, I don't know, deport people who are here illegally. Criminals. Democrats in the state are planning to remove him from office, staging a coup as it were. Things are getting really weird and they have the power to do it. The governor can suspend the mayor for 30 days without charge, then present charges and they don't even need a conviction. They can literally just say we're charging you and therefore we will remove you as mayor. It's pretty nuts. And this all stems back in his crazy timeline to Eric Adams defying the Biden government in 2022, resulting in the launch of DOJ investigations against him, then an indictment, then Donald Trump gets in, cuts him a deal. Democrats are saying it's a dirty deal and he needs to be removed. Man, talk about corruption. RFK Jr has made his announcement as to what he's going after first. Very exciting. And then get this cash Patel. They passed his his. He's moved forward, we'll put it like that. And they're still putting more roadblocks in front of him, desperately trying to stop him from becoming FBI director. That's gonna be really interesting. And while I have you, before we get started, I'm going to. I'll give you an update on our West Virginia stuff. West Virginia is a terrible place to do business. I strongly recommend you all stay away from it. We recently learned that it is illegal to contract individuals 1099 for any job in this state, which is shockingly insane as sometimes there's a person you want to hire for just like a one off job. Nope. They got taxes upon taxes. We were just informed today that if we, that we a guy we contract to do like it and dev work out of Texas who doesn't even live here. And we're like, hey, we've got a, we've got a thing on the website needs to be fixed. Can you fix it? Employee? I'm like, what? It's just a, it's an IT contract. Like we don't do IT services. So if we want to hire a plumber to fix our toilet, we got to hire a plumber. They told us that talent contracts are not allowed and that our existing talents legit, straight up. If somebody wants to appear in a show has to be an employee. Well, good luck making that happen when talent own their own ip, have agents, managers and work for a bunch of different companies on specific projects. These Uber laws they're called, are ripping away the right of individuals to work in this country. They're currently in 34 states. West Virginia has to be one of the worst, I'd imagine, cuz they outright told us individuals are not legally allowed to work in this state. I am not exaggerating. Now, if you want to tell me that's not how the law is supposed to work, fine. The state will weaponize this law against you if they got a problem with you. So I know we've talked about it before, but we've been actively investigating how to get out of the state as fast as we can because of the degree of incentive. And a lot of people said, tim, give the Republican administration an opportunity. They are, you know, they're new, they're trying. This was formerly a Democrat state. I hear ya, I hear ya. That being said, despite everything going on, we've had politicians reaching out to us, begging us not to leave, apologizing for the problems, and still we get a call and that's fine, that's fine. They're enforcing action against us, claiming we owe taxes on individuals who are clearly contractors who abided by the law as the law was written. And they're telling us they don't care. They want us to pay five figures. High five figures. And you know what, Fine. You can squeeze as much blood of the turnip as you want and we'll make sure you never get another penny out of us because this state is broken. Okay? If the existing administration knew the law was busted, then they could simply say, hey guys, we need to put a pause on this enforcement. The idea that individuals aren't allowed to contract is an absurdity and the state can't function that way. Instead they said, tell him he's got to pay it anyway. Okay, sure. I'll write you a check. And then we're going to make sure we dismantle our business and move everything we can out of the state and use whatever force I have in any imaginable way to warn people about what they're doing to us. Because I am personally offended by this. Let me just stress, if there is a musician, if there is a podcaster and you would like to get a contract with them to make an appearance on your show, you have to hire them as a W2 employee. And do you know what they say to you when you offer that? They laugh in your face and say, yeah, that's not gonna happen. And we've lost three people already because of this law. So if they don't want us to operate here, so be it. I am beyond off about this. I feel like I was had by the state, the fact that they would still be trying to enforce this. And you know what? It's my fault. I take full responsibility. I thought West Virginia was better than that. Clearly I was wrong. But hey, in the meantime, head over to cast brew.com and buy cast Brew coffee and support our coffee company, I guess. And you can pick up Appalachian Nights. Stand your grounds. We got Colombian, everybody's favorite, Ian's Graphene Dream, which is selling off the shelves like hotcakes. And of course the Green Room Show. Guys, you're going to love the Green Room Show. Yesterday, Chad hall of Snake Farm Skateboards. And also he's an. He was, he was active duty military for a long time with a lot of stories and he worked for the government currently and he's got some stories for you. Man, this guy is a warrior of warriors. And so he was a big fan of Phil. So I thought it'd be cool to have them do a sit down conversation about, you know, what it's like overseas in these active combat situations listening to heavy metal while you're, you know, let's just, I don't want to say too much.

[Tim Pool]

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[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that stuff can be a little not so family friendly and it could see, you know, we know what happens in war zones. So check out the green room show. Rumble.com Timcast IRL. We're gonna have another episode up today. Of course we do an episode every single day. And then we have the members only uncensored call in show all on Rumble Premium. Go to timcast premium.com. it'll redirect you to Rumble. To sign up for premium, use promo code TIMCAST10 to sign up. And don't Forget if you want to get in the Discord server to hang out with like minded individuals. We got 20,000 plus members and they want to be friends with you. So go to timcast.com join the discord server to be involved in our compu community endeavors. Also, don't forget to smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Saka Masaquai.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. Hey, what's up Tim? Good to see you.

[Ian Crossland]

I know.

[Saka Masaquai]

Happy to be. Yeah. I was going to say, honestly, I was like, yo, you got it brother. That was good stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

I hope I did.

[Saka Masaquai]

That was good stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, I am a. I guess do you say former or current J6er? Where are we at now with that? Once a J6er, always a J Sixer. All right, well we could start off with that because I think a lot of people know. But I'm also an actor, 11 month old father now, so. Which is awesome. Which that's probably the most exciting thing.

[Ian Crossland]

About your kid's a good dancer.

[Saka Masaquai]

He's a fantastic dancer and he has this move now I think he got from his mom that is just the up and down. So that's great. Working for. I work for people like the actor came out of high Hollywood, got canceled because I started getting involved in the Trump rallies in Beverly Hills and all that good stuff and started working with Babylon Bee to make fun of the craziness that we see. Then I ran for office in 22, ran for state assembly in Los Angeles, North Hollywood. How'd that go? It went pretty well actually. You know, probably the biggest thing I found out was that we don't go around and talk to people as much as we should. I found that in the neighborhood that I lived for. I lived nine years until I just recently moved to Tennessee. But in the neighborhood we were. As I walked around and talked to people, about 95% of the people in North Hollywood were Republicans.

[Libby Emmons]

Really?

[Saka Masaquai]

And they were like, what? You run for office? No one ever comes around the left doesn't even come around to the neighborhood. They just assume and get the unions basically to get their school boards and everyone to vote for them. So it told me like, hey, we need to get out there. I got about 17%, you know, first time running and I'm like, no one else is running so like might as well put myself in there. Cause I was doing speeches telling people to go run for local office if you hate what you see and somebody hit me up and they're like, I'm running for mayor of my small town. Are you gonna do something? And I'm like, I'm just an actor, you know. But then you get to a point like, I can't tell someone else to do something and not be willing to do it myself.

[Ian Crossland]

Right on.

[Saka Masaquai]

I did it. And then, then I ended up being vice chair of laglp, largest county in America. So that was fun for a time. And I just saw that we need to again, we need to message, but we need to get out and actually be bold and not be afraid to talk to people directly. Then I got again doing stuff with Daily Wire or with Babylon B. Then I got hired with Daily Wire and was able to move my family out to Tennessee and got out and we made it. Tennessee on Labor Day.

[Ian Crossland]

What a great state.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, yeah. People, everybody that we walk the first time, we were walking our dogs around the first month we were there, everyone we'd meet, they come up and want to talk to us and they end the conversation with, you guys find a church yet? Hey, what church you go to? You got a church? And we're coming from la, where it's like, I'm like, just in case Satan tries to, you know, put my cross in. But, you know, we're over there and everyone's like, you come to this church. Come. Like, come. I mean, we've gone to so many different churches. People want to help out.

[Libby Emmons]

Did you find a church yet?

[Ian Crossland]

Well, let's, let's. We'll save those questions because we're 10 minutes in.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, say. Yeah, Sorry.

[Ian Crossland]

Thanks for hanging out. Work.

[Saka Masaquai]

I'm happy to be here, buddy.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, Libby's hanging out, obviously.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm Libby Emmons. I'm here with the. I'm with the Post, Millennial and Human Events dot com. Glad to be here with everybody.

[Ian Crossland]

Hello, everybody.

[Tim Pool]

My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's go.

[Ian Crossland]

Here we go. From Newsweek. Trump orders DOJ to fire all remaining Biden appointed U.S. attorneys. Yes, the President posted on Truth Social. Over the past four years, the Department of Justice has been politicized like never before. Therefore, I have instructed the termination of all remaining Biden era U.S. attorneys. We must clean house immediately and restore confidence. America's golden age must have a fair justice system that begins today. I'd like to imagine that Donald Trump was taking my advice when I said last week, he's got to splinter the intelligence agencies into the wind and reform them. Because we cannot trust the people who weaponized the government against J. Sixers and against the president himself. I'm kidding, by the way. This was always his plan, and I'm glad he's enacting it.

[Saka Masaquai]

You're 100% right, man. I mean, as someone who's gone through this stuff, and I was talking about it earlier, you know, my court date was the 21st of January, and we asked and we petitioned multiple times to get it just pushed out. Cause we knew Trump was gonna do this. They wouldn't. The judge kept it going, which cost me money, kept pushing, you know, paying for legal fees and all that stuff. And instead of being reasonable, literally the lawyers like, nope, we're ready to go. We wanna go ahead and prosecute this guy for four misdemeanors.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

And, you know, yeah, we need to clean. Just clean this all up.

[Tim Pool]

We've had a couple different people that have had different experiences, you know, regarding January six, and. And I was wondering, do you feel like you had a fair, fair court hearing and dealing with the. The court, the. The prosecution? I know that you. You didn't actually go to trial. You were. You were dealing with all that stuff. But do you. Did you feel like you had a fair hear, you know, treatment, or did you feel like the. The. The entire system was biased against.

[Saka Masaquai]

I think the entire system was. I mean, I got raided in 21, so they raided my home and took all my electronics in 21. I didn't get charged or anything. So for two and a half years, I was on a quiet skies list. Okay, so without being charged. Right. It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. I'm searched every time at the TSA checkpoint. When I go to the gate, six agents are there to check me again. Mind you, I hadn't been charged and they actually. I was on that list before they raided my house, because they raided in June. My first trip in 21, in April is when they started doing this. And then they didn't arrest me until it was November 30th of 23. Coming back from the Lady Ballers premiere for Daily Wire. And they arrested me on a tarmac at Burbank Airport, and it ripped me away from my wife. I mean, it came four agent. It came like. I was like El Chapo. And I'm like, what? Then you go into the court case and you start to go through that process and, you know, thank God that people have been really generous because I was like, not guilty. But in the Long run, it's cost me close to, you know, 180.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, well, that's a big part of what they were. They were doing. And that's something that Trump said when he issued the pardon, was that the people who have gone through this have already been broken, already been financially ruined. They've already been punished through this legal process.

[Tim Pool]

That's why I asked if you felt like the system had treated you fairly or not, because of the fact that essentially it seemed like it was kind of common knowledge that the punishment or the process was the punishment. And that's something that you hear frequently surrounding this topic. And I wondered your experience, like I.

[Saka Masaquai]

Said to you earlier, we told the judge, we're like, look, hey, he's going to do this. Can we just push it out and just kind of leave it alone till April? Right. She said, no, nothing's official yet. Meaning that I will have to fly myself, my wife and my child out to D.C. we had to get a place, we had to rent a car. All these things during inauguration week at that. So everything's up. So that's part of knowing that's what we're gonna do. And at 9am on the 21st, they're like, all right, case dismiss. And you're like, I could not afford to not show up.

[Ian Crossland]

And then all of a sudden, there's a viral clip. I think it's Chris Matthews. And he's saying, look at what Trump does when he gets in. He pardons all of the insurrectionists or whatever, showing us whose side he's on. And I'm just sitting here thinking like, Trump is effectively a J6 or himself. Yeah, they were trying to put him in prison the whole time. They tried to put him in prison again, and they were using everything happened on J6 to call him a traitor who committed sedition and insurrection so they could destroy his life, raid his home. So when he went to pardon the J6ers, I don't think he was really. It wasn't from an outside perspective. It was literally from a. These people attacked us, and so now he's firing them all.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, you know, you. Let me give you an example, because I know you've been swatted and.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, like 13, 15 times.

[Saka Masaquai]

And you. So you can relate to. Honestly, guys, the. The amount of just abuse that it feels like when you have your government kick in your front door.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

When you didn't.

[Ian Crossland]

We never had any doors get kicked in.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, you know, just had just people showing up in that way. But they came in so heavy 15 agents with guns. Ars in my face. In my 3 and 6 year old Godson's face.

[Libby Emmons]

That's so crazy.

[Saka Masaquai]

For 71 seconds in a doorway. And so Trump knows what that's like. Cuz they went through his wife's underwear.

[Libby Emmons]

Drawer and she's still mad about it.

[Ian Crossland]

I think people don't. You don't see the rage Trump has and the anger. He's tweeted about it and he said, these people went to my home. But you make a great point about what it's like when they show up to your house. Donald Trump, let's talk about his classified documents. Trump had a bunch of boxes of knickknacks like daily briefings for money. Was president that he probably didn't think twice about. They were scattered about his home in Mar a Lago and the papers were not even properly organized. Yeah, they weren't. What's. I can't. What's the word?

[Libby Emmons]

Collated.

[Ian Crossland]

Collated, right. That's exactly the word.

[Libby Emmons]

I used to work in an office.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's a good word.

[Ian Crossland]

They were.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's an office word.

[Ian Crossland]

Page one was there and page seven was there. The feds came in, collected them all, put them on the floor, and then took their own handmade confidentiality forms and put them on top and took a picture staging the evidence. Joe Biden, meanwhile, admitted he retained classified information illegally for the purpose of writing a book to make money, as vice versa.

[Libby Emmons]

Kept it in multiple offices and his garage.

[Ian Crossland]

And so then Donald Trump, minding his own business, has law enforcement, FBI, raid his home, his wife's underwear drawer, his son, his son's room. Oh, boy. I don't think we've yet begun to see the rage that is Donald Trump's revenge and retribution.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, it's interesting, this firing of all of these attorneys because we recently saw some. Seven attorneys, seven prosecutors from the Southern District Court of New York resign over the dropping of the Adams indictment, which I thought was really interesting and definitely precedes something like this, where he's like, if everyone's just going to be against what we do in the Department of Justice, then you can all just go home. That's also fine.

[Saka Masaquai]

Right. I think actually some of these people who are resigning, I think that's the precursor to something else that's coming.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that's an interesting point. They do think that Adams is guilty. They do think they had enough evidence for him.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, I think.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't, I don't. I. So when the Adam stuff was coming out, the Turkey stuff, people are pointing out that it was like marginal stuff you often see from a lot of very marginal politicians. And it was kind of just like, really? I gotta tell you, there are stories that I know of where the FBI outright said a million dollars doesn't move the needle. They're not. Well, think about it. You've got criminal cartels dealing, trafficking to the tunes of billion dollar industries. You've got hundreds of millions of dollars being trapped across the border, you know, every year. Does it really make sense the FBI is going to be like, what, what are we, what are we dealing with here? What was like 100 grand or something?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And so. Well, there is a question of whether or not we tolerate these kinds of things. It really did look selective.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it was of course, the Adam's thing. Well, he was on his way, you mentioned to 2022 when he started criticizing the Bide on his way to D.C. to meet with other blue city mayors to talk to Biden about immigration and the border crisis. And as it like somewhere in Delaware or whatever, he had to turn around and go back to New York because one of his AIDS homes got raided in Brooklyn. And then Biden was able to hold the joint roundtable meeting with those blue city mayors all going. Biden's working really hard. He really cares about us, you guys. He's doing his best he can.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I call it evil.

[Libby Emmons]

That's a good word.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's a great word for it.

[Tim Pool]

So he, I mean, he was the only guy that was gonna actually stand.

[Libby Emmons]

Up and he was the only one. I mean, who else was gonna do it, you know? Well, apparently nobody, you know.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, it just seems like he brokered a deal with Trump and that's fine. That happens all the time. But I think.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that's what the DOJ said.

[Saka Masaquai]

But what's coming is these people who have resigned, these people who have just been fired, there's. To me, I'm saying there's something coming for them. There's some come for these people who are running right now.

[Libby Emmons]

What do you mean coming for them?

[Saka Masaquai]

Did they do everything in an up and up just like the J6, you know, you know, attorneys. No. Yep, exactly. There's a lot of these judges are.

[Ian Crossland]

The same way where these individuals knew that they were acting in violation of the law. Let me just give a. Give it. I'll give you an example. There was a story today that a CBP agent was arrested for allegedly being a member of the cartels.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And my point was, whenever we talk about law enforcement, there is a conservative bias. I'M not saying everybody on the right is a conservative to believe the cop was doing nothing wrong. That is, we know from Dr. Phil that CBP agents were facilitating child trafficking, that children were coming across the border with numbers on their arms. They'd look at the number call, knew it was a child slaver, and they'd say, send them anyway. The presumption, the bias in the mind of the right was these are guys who don't want to do this, but Biden's making them do it. They never stopped to consider that some of these guys might literally be cartel members who infiltrated government. So my point is, do not presume these FBI agents because we had a guy on last week who said there's a lot of good patriots serving and you know, they had bad administrative leadership. Stop assuming that some of these guys might be literal activists who applied for the express purpose of being able to weaponize the DOJ against political ideology. And they're literally sitting behind the stage, behind the scenes going, we gotta get Trump supporters arrested so we can stop Trump from winning.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh yeah. And I know that's what happened when I got arrested on the 30th and we're driving in a car, I'm like, you guys know where I live. You guys could have called me. We could have had a conversation. The agent literally said to me, well, we didn't want you to be prepared. For a limited time, you can get.

[Libby Emmons]

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[Ian Crossland]

Are they special bees? Does KFC have dragon bees?

[Saka Masaquai]

Fire breathing dragon bees that create spicy honey?

[Libby Emmons]

No, silly, there's no such thing.

[Ian Crossland]

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[Saka Masaquai]

To drizzle all over their crispy chicken. But dragon bees would be so cool.

[Libby Emmons]

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[Ian Crossland]

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[Saka Masaquai]

Taxes, tips and fees extra. So they came in force so that wouldn't be prepared. And they're getting bonuses for every time they do these things. It's so they're not, they're not doing a raid and it's just part of their salary. They got a bonus to do the raid. Did a bonus for showing up on that tarmac. They're getting paid extra to do these things torment Americans. So they deserve everything that's coming for.

[Libby Emmons]

This thing with the US attorneys. Also, it's not unprecedented. Bill Clinton fired 93 US attorney when he came into office. It's sort of a presidential prerogative. Like, why would you want a bunch of attorneys who have completely different priorities from your Justice Department?

[Tim Pool]

Especially considering the Donald Trump administration saw what the, you know, what he, what he went up again. They remember what they went up against in his first administration. Like, the. I know that there's. This is something that has probably been repeated ad nauseam, but his being out of office for four years was probably the best thing that's happened to the country in God knows how long.

[Libby Emmons]

Because he had time to ruminate.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, not only, yeah, not only did he have time to ruminate and really actually kind of talk to people and figure out what happened, but he also saw what the government, you know, all the things that they did to him, because he thought that all the things that they did to him. He saw, you know, all of it. He was like, I can't believe this. Because he thought that he was going to be treated like other presidents. He thought that once I get elected or now that I'm elected, if I just play ball with them and I, you know, use the guys that they want, then they'll treat me. Eventually they'll come around. That clearly isn't that.

[Libby Emmons]

No, I mean, Joe Biden stripped him of his security clearance, and then everybody and everyone was like, well, he doesn't have a need for that. And then everyone kind of freaked out when Trump was like, you know what? We're stripping you of your security clearance, old man.

[Ian Crossland]

I want to jump to this next story, but I just have to point this out. For no reason that I've been saying ruminate a bit for the past couple of weeks. And then you said it, and then I just thought about it. I'm like, I don't actually know the, the root of ruminate. It means to chew on cud.

[Libby Emmons]

Nice.

[Ian Crossland]

So it's a reference to cows and goats just sitting there chewing on it for a long period of time.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, there's worse things you can be.

[Ian Crossland]

So when we say, you know, he.

[Saka Masaquai]

Ruminated, he was chewing on.

[Ian Crossland]

It's. It's just funny that we were an.

[Tim Pool]

Agrarian society for a while.

[Ian Crossland]

Somebody saw the goat sitting there just chewing on, cuddling. And then use that as an analogy for thinking deeply and sitting there staring off in the distance.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's what it looks like they're doing. If you actually look at a cow, he's like, philosophy. He's like, man, how big is that moon, really?

[Ian Crossland]

That goat is sitting there chewing the code going, man, how many of these FBI agents need to go to prison here's? The story from Politico. Hochul weighing whether to remove Eric Adams as mayor. I'm going to go as quickly as I can for the story with you guys. In 2022, Eric Adams publicly broke from the Biden administration shortly after he got elected in New York, upset over how they were handling immigration. Almost immediately, the DOJ started launching investigations into Eric Adams. They later raided the home of his staff and employees who did nothing wrong and they started resigning. Then In September of 24, they filed criminal charges against him. Donald Trump ends up winning and then goes to cut a deal with Eric Adams. Basically his administration said, you let us operate ICE and Rikers once again because they've, they used to do that all the time. There was an office for ICE at Rikers island and we're going to drop these charges. Eric Adams says, okay, I will cooperate. The Democrats then said he, Jamie Raskin, for instance, it's a corrupt deal to drop his criminal charges to work with Trump in violation of their sanctuary laws. Kathy Hochul is, the governor does have the ability to remove Eric Adams For 30 days without, without cause. She can just cite charges pending. We're going to suspend him and then they can levy charges against him at the state level and all is required. All that is required is that he defend himself in a hearing. Whether convicted or found guilty, it doesn't matter. They say you're charged with this. He says, well, I didn't. They say, okay, well we had the hearing, you're out. It doesn't even have to be convicted according to the New York City Charter. I will say this, it is very obvious Eric Adams was only investigated and charges were only brought because he was defying the Biden administration on immigration. Not even completely, because we did criticize him a bit, cuz he still was giving into some of Eric Adams policies, taking money to set up these luxury hotels and things like this. Now that he's cooperating with the Trump doj, which is, let me just tell you guys, completely routine. Every single day, every single day, a prosecutor will go to a alleged criminal under indictment and say, we will drop the charges if you do this for us. Every day that happens, okay, so they go to the mayor and say, you're a man with a lot of power in the city. We're going to drop these charges, but we want ICE enforcement. He says, fine, deal. The Democrats are now intervening to stop immigration enforcement. And it's fairly obvious why Democrats get they boost their Electoral College vote count and their congressional seats by protecting illegal immigrants. That is the Scandal we are currently looking at. Boy, if this is not a coup, I don't know. It is.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, the other thing too is the one of the high court in New York right now is weighing a case on whether or not some 800,000 non citizens are allowed to vote in local elections. And the city council approved that. They approved that. They're in favor of it because they think that they're going to, you know, get all of those votes for the Democrats, which they likely will get.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, the, in a place that they don't need to have more Democrats voting. And they're like, oh, well, we need to go ahead and make illegal immigrants.

[Saka Masaquai]

But it's not, it's not just that though, brother. If we're seeing everything with usaid, it's where you can funnel more money. That's what it really comes down to. And I think.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's congressional. Yeah, Congressional seats.

[Saka Masaquai]

Exactly. And I think that actually what it comes down to, I don't think they're coming after him just because he spoke out and he made a deal with Trump to say like, go into the prisons. He knows where the bodies are buried, he knows how things have worked and what he's been in the meetings with Hochul and be like, let's do this and do that and do this and do that. That's what I believe they're really afraid of because you see a guy like Brandon Johnson in Chicago, he's like, oh, I'm doing the same thing. He's going full bore and they're like, we're coming after him. There's a reason why Eric Adams wasn't named in the lawsuit by Pam Bondi. Usually you don't name your informant. Right. You name everybody else around him. And he's such a big head that can drop a lot of info.

[Ian Crossland]

This is an administrative civil war. Eric Weinstein, that's his quote. I agree with his assessment. What we are looking at, with what the state Democrats in New York are doing to obstruct immigration enforcement, they are defying the Constitution and federal law for illicit gain. This is crazy. I mean, where does this go?

[Saka Masaquai]

People are going to get arrested.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and you know who you need to be arrested. Yes, but, but in that meeting with Kathy Hochul, she had Al Sharpton in there in that meeting. He was one of the key people that she had. And he's a lying, race baiting grifter. He has absolutely no business running anything in the city of New York at all.

[Tim Pool]

Started a race riot.

[Libby Emmons]

He started a race riot.

[Saka Masaquai]

He's part of the mouthpiece of these socialist Marxist communists for the last, you know, since MLK was killed.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And then Tawana Brawley, like, he has no business being involved in anything.

[Ian Crossland]

So. So where does this go? We saw, I believe, was it Pam Bondi who announced the charges against New York. But this is tantamount to a lawsuit.

[Saka Masaquai]

I mean, it's effectively civil, isn't it? Isn't a civil law.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, but she said charges, and then it's like, yeah, it's a lawsuit against the state or whatever. That. I appreciate the sentiment. I don't see how that moves the needle. No, I want to see obstruction inducement charges. And with this move, the federal government is working with the mayor on law enforcement. That makes Democrats the bad guys, Right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, so let me just. Let's just raise that. The Department of Justice has gone to the mayor of New York and said, we want to catch some criminals. Will you help us? The Democrats responded by saying, we will remove that mayor so that he cannot.

[Libby Emmons]

Do that, so that he can't get people out of the city.

[Ian Crossland]

They are criminals trying to aid and abet other criminals and illicitly targeting a mayor who is working with the Department of Justice.

[Libby Emmons]

And you saw what Tom Holman said about AOC who came out trying to tell illegal immigrants how to hide from deportation. Yeah. Pamphlets. She's not the only one either. There's a lot of people across the country who are doing this kind of stuff. And Ilhan Omar was speaking Somali to people directly to tell them. I think it's absolutely egregious that that's what these lawmakers are doing, because the. What Tom Homan is doing is enforcing the existing law. He's not doing anything other than enforcing the existing law. And these are the same laws that Biden said wasn't. Weren't strong enough to actually close the border or keep people out or anything.

[Ian Crossland]

Just for quick context, I saw someone ask the question in the chat. Inducement. Indeed. 8 U.S. code 1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens in section A, subsection 4 encourages or induces an alien to come, enter, or reside in the US Knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such such coming to entry or residence is or will be in violation of the law or engaged in conspiracy to commit the proceeding. Actually, we get it. We get it. So that's in encouragement and inducement. They are crimes. I'll break it down for you. Encouragement is likely what we are seeing from these Democrats when they're saying, if you're here Illegally. Here's what you can do to stay here. Illegally. They are encouraging people to do so. Inducement would be more so if you stay here, we will do something for you. So to, to offer something so that they will come and stay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And there's a point that I. We've been talking about this a little bit. Sorry, just real quick.

[Ian Crossland]

And the free health care they offer in California, I think is inducement and they should go at housing and they should arrest those people.

[Tim Pool]

This is something that we've been talking about a little bit. The fact that it's coming from Congress people is it matters like, so if it was just your average Joe or even, even just your average activist person, I don't think that, I think that there would be an argument that's legitimate to say, look, this is just the freedom of speech, blah, blah, blah, because it comes from a congressperson. There is an, there is an implication of legality.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

There's an implication of this is what you do and you, and it's legal for you to do this, so you should do this. There is, there is an authority that they have. And because of that, I think that it's worth pointing out and saying, look, you do have, you know, we have the freedom of speech here. But what you're doing when you're telling these people, and the way you're telling these people does fall under the law that Tim just talked about. Because these people that are through. No, you know, I understand that they're just regular people and they're probably pretty ignorant to how US law works. So they probably are just like, oh, this is a congressperson. And they're telling me, so this must be legal. This must be how it is. So that is an inducement. The fact that it's coming from an incon. A congressperson implies legitimacy and that in and of itself is inducement.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, yeah, that's, that's huge.

[Ian Crossland]

I just like to see the DOJ start arresting them. Yes, absolutely. We cannot. Well, look, and I want to stress this aoc, what she's done so far, she should get arrested. A court appearance and like a couple hundred dollar fine. You know, they say, look what you did, you held an activist seminar. You were, you were promoting these things. However, that is criminal inducement to first offense. You're a member of Congress, don't do it again.

[Tim Pool]

And then censured by Congress. Yes, censure as well.

[Ian Crossland]

But my point is, I don't, I don't, I don't see. What we want is deterrence.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

Arresting and locking up will create more activism. What we want is a statement from the government, this is illegal. Pay your $200 ticket. Don't do it again. She likely will not. That's what we wanna see. We wanna see just like, let the punishment fit the crime. She did a webinar. Okay. I think she pays a fine for that. And we don't, we don't do that. If she then defies the law against.

[Libby Emmons]

Again, perhaps does another webinar.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, then, then, then I would say beyond that, you get a larger fine. And then if she does it a third time, then you get some short sentence. Was going to be like 30 days in jail or something. You know, I don't see inducement as being. Actually, I agree with Phil in that as a member of Congress, you have a higher expectation than the average citizen.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

But I think in terms of what I want to see from the Trump administration is stoic, dispassionate accountability. So that's why I'm saying we will be light with the penalties to start, and if they continually press it, we will go after everyone with escalating punishment as we do for any other law. And I don't think that you take one of these Democrats advocating for illegal immigration and lock them up for 10 years. That's, that's silly. And not only that, it's, it's, it's, it's egregious. It's, it's, it's aggressive. No, no, no, no, no. She held a webinar and she got a bunch of activists. You give her a fine, tell her, don't do it again. She does it again, then you give her a bigger fine. And everyone else involved.

[Saka Masaquai]

But you do perp walk.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, well, they want that.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, aoc.

[Ian Crossland]

But I don't, I don't disagree. I don't disagree.

[Libby Emmons]

Amazing. She'd reapply her lipstick.

[Ian Crossland]

But we want all the. Okay, the point is this is and has been illegal for a long time. And for some reason over the past 15 years, we have operated in this society where Democrats break the law and get away with it.

[Saka Masaquai]

Right, right, right.

[Ian Crossland]

So we want to set the standard and say this is illegal, has been illegal, and we'll enforce the law against you.

[Saka Masaquai]

And it's coming.

[Libby Emmons]

If you said inducement, I wonder if Alejandro Mayorkas should have been charged with inducement. Absolutely.

[Ian Crossland]

When Biden said, We're not saying straight.

[Libby Emmons]

Up, we're saying don't come now on, that was March 1, 2021. And that's what he said. And he Repeated. He said that. And then everyone is like, you said that. He was like, no, I didn't. It's like.

[Saka Masaquai]

So here's the question then, post prose.

[Tim Pool]

Post administration impeachment for Joe Biden because he induced illegal. Illegals to come to the United States.

[Saka Masaquai]

I was actually. To your point there, Tim. Okay, so we have ALC who's, you know, congressperson kind of doing a webinar. When you have, you know, mayorkas with his level, his, his, his, his status, and you have Joe Biden saying surge the border, isn't that more than just inducement? Isn't that. I would, I would think it's encouragement, but it's also, to a certain extent, at least to me, I'll just say it's treasonous because you're, you're opening the border sue Texas, and then they want everyone to flood from another country. But your position as president is a direct violation of the constitutional. Of the Constitution or constitutional, like duty.

[Tim Pool]

It's a violation of his, of his, of his oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. I don't think that treason is accurate.

[Saka Masaquai]

I do want to see some treason come in.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, let me tell you. Well, yeah. Cause treason is aiding an enemy in a time of war. And so sedition is when you undermine government.

[Saka Masaquai]

Sedition, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

People confuse the two. But there is one man who perhaps can answer the deep questions we have, and that man is Cash Patel from the Post Millennial breaking Senate Judiciary Committee advances Cash Patel as FBI Director will face vote in closed Senate executive session. No, no, hold on there a gosh darn minute. My understanding is that the committee advances the nominee and then it goes to a floor vote, and then we have our appointee. Libby, what's going on?

[Libby Emmons]

What's going on? Oh, with the Senate Judiciary. So, yeah, so the way it works. And I was talking to my staff about this because we were all a little like, what's going on? But so the committee that held his confirmation hearings advances him to the next, the next round. And in this case, that's an executive session, which is a closed session. And after the executive session, they will vote on cloture, which means no board debate, and then it will go for a full vote.

[Ian Crossland]

So why is it taking so long to get cash?

[Libby Emmons]

Why is it taking maybe the Epstein list, maybe. No, we were talking about that before the show. There's a lot of debate surrounding Cash, and there was a lot of debate surrounding Tulsi as well. But I think that. And didn't Tulsi have a closed session?

[Saka Masaquai]

She had A closed session as well.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, she did.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. I remember that's when I was like, what's going on?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Because in the closed session, they're like, please tell us you're not going to do these things.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. And I think it, I think the closed session also has to do with, in the case of Cash and Tulsi, I think it has to do with the incredibly sensitive nature of the things that the, that they need to discuss. You know, I mean, that they're like super confidential.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, you say whatever you want in.

[Ian Crossland]

There, but is Cash going to release the Epstein list?

[Saka Masaquai]

That's what he said he's going to do. I was actually listening to. It was PBD podcast with Glenn Becky and he said within 10 days of cash getting in. And I'm like. And Cash has been saying from, you know, the last three years on every podcast and going, I'm gonna do this thing. So, I mean, the number one pederus in the world in US history. Why not?

[Ian Crossland]

Let's, let's do this. Remember that guy who was tracking Elon's private jets?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

We need him now. I'm not a fan of posting the information on Elon's jets. That's not what I mean. But we need the expertise of monitoring the jets of all of these Hollywood celebrities, billionaires, financial executives, etc. To see how many of them within the confirmation. Shortly after the confirmation of Cash Patel, how many of them fly to other.

[Saka Masaquai]

Countries on their jets with no extradition loss?

[Ian Crossland]

Exactly. All of a sudden all the planes.

[Saka Masaquai]

Just goes to Kenya.

[Libby Emmons]

You're like, I'll go to one place in Thailand. And he's like, never coming back. Wasn't there something.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh yeah. Russell Simmons left in 21.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

He was like, he saw things and he's like, I'm out of here. He was been gone for years. Oh yeah. He wasn't even going to try to play. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, Diddy should have gone with him.

[Ian Crossland]

Does Cash have to live in a bulletproof glass box right now? I mean, come on.

[Saka Masaquai]

I don't know. Because I think, I think again, I think they've been planning for stuff like this and they got people around them, they got people around them ready for the smoke.

[Ian Crossland]

I ready for this. I kind of feel like, you know, the empire has been crushed.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

That with Donald Trump's victory this time around, there is just, you know, it's. You've gotten rid of most of the infrastructure and all that's left are remnants of the deep state that still somewhat are operating you know how it is like after World War II, they were like this man was living in the jungle and didn't know the war was over for five years.

[Libby Emmons]

He's still fighting the artist Joseph Voice who had this whole crazy thing. But I think the other thing too you're talking about the empire has been crushed. I think there's something to watch out for that we need to be careful about. And that, that is the tendrils. Tendrils that have gone so deep into everything. The tendrils that make made it so that the Department of Agriculture withheld free school lunches because just from schools that wouldn't let boys and girls bathrooms. And that's the pulling out of the DEI through the Department of Education. That's the pulling out of the gender critic, the gender ideology.

[Ian Crossland]

I like the tendrils analogy, but I think we can go for something more disgusting like bot fly larvae.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay.

[Ian Crossland]

That has burrowed and embedded its seeds under your skin.

[Libby Emmons]

That's horrif so gross.

[Tim Pool]

Dude.

[Libby Emmons]

I like the tendrils thing because I think octopuses are cool.

[Tim Pool]

I get, I get your point. I like it because it goes beyond just, it goes, it goes beyond just the. In Washington D.C. remember USAID was working with foreign nations all over the world and there's a lot of foreign nations that have their governments because of the work that USAID did.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it's not just a matter of, of, you know, things here in the US There are remnants, sure there are still people in positions of power that will do whatever they can to stymie the Trump administration, but there's the whole of Europe is, has bought into the ideology that we're trying to, trying to excoriate from the United States.

[Saka Masaquai]

Been a part of it.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. It's not just bought. I mean you look at what's going on and everyone talked about, you know.

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[Tim Pool]

Germany 60 minutes in Germany. That is the, that is ever every bit as influential as it's ever been. So it's not just the United like people talk about, like, hey, get out of NATO because, well, you know, they're, they're not, they're not paying their fair share, but maybe get out of NATO because they don't believe in liberal values like the freedom of speech anymore.

[Libby Emmons]

That was like the most amazing speech that J.D. vance gave on Friday. I watched that speech and I was like, this is the kind of speech that we need to see all over the world.

[Saka Masaquai]

Threw down the gauntlet.

[Libby Emmons]

He was just like, you're not upholding Western values. You're not vouchsafing Western civilization. What are you even defending yourselves for? That was such a huge and good question. I just want to say. Go ahead.

[Ian Crossland]

It is very based that we have a President who tweets and then, you know, that was 2016 or 2017-21. But now we have a Vice President as well because the current Vice President is on Twitter calling people dummies, roasting these people. And I'm like, so it was Mehdi Hasan, I believe, who threw some critique over J.D. vance's commentary. And he responded with, yeah, like free speech, like you shouldn't go to jail for insulting somebody, dummy. And it was amazing to see the Vice President on Twitter be like, you're dumb.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, you know what, this is like a reversal, right? Cuz John Adams was the first Vice President and he got into office and he and George Washington didn't agree about anything. And so he was like, well, I'll just let George Washington govern and I'll just mostly hang out in the Senate, which is what he did. And he did a lot of tie breaking votes. But that set the tone for the Vice presidency through the ages where the Vice President doesn't really do anything. And now I feel like with JD Van Trump's like, I need a second guy. We got a lot of stuff to do. We need two of us. You know, we need, definitely need four hands to get this done. And so maybe JD Vance is actually reversing the tradition of the Vice Presidency and going to actually get things done. But just really quick with usaid, when that story started breaking, I was like, wait, I remember something about this from a couple years ago. It was in 2022 that Samantha Powers went to Hungary and started giving a bunch of money to independent fringe media and LGBTQ causes because they didn't like Viktor Orban and they wanted to destabilize their government. And what they said was. What Powers said at the time was, we're upholding democracy in Hungary. And it's like, no, you're trying to destabilize a government that you don't like.

[Saka Masaquai]

Right. And that's. But I think also the JD Thing is because Trump is such a force, we need a JD And. And anyone behind him to. To kind of put themselves on that platform because the left is gonna pump money into somebody by 2028. Right. And Gavin burned up his opportunity, but too soon. But JD Is also showing like, I don't play. And we needed to see him come out there and do that as consistently.

[Libby Emmons]

So I think I speech was good, and his Munich speech was good, and.

[Saka Masaquai]

He'S preparing like, this is the future. One of the things we're seeing in Trump. I know I felt this. Him standing there like, we gotta remember he got shot, y'all.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

If we think that in the head. If we think like, oh, just. The Raider got him pissed. He got shot. What do you think he's gonna do?

[Libby Emmons]

First they went for his lady, and.

[Saka Masaquai]

Then they came for him. And so, yeah, he. He's coming hard, and then coming behind him is the future. JD represents the young men who are in their 20s holding up that flag during those. Those. Those, you know, frat boys who were like, no, you're not gonna destroy my country.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

And while Kamala picks his old, you know, raisin of a dude, a little pansy boy, and Tim waltz, we get J.D. vance, who comes from. Oh, man. Who comes from literally the garbage background that you could say if you wanted to say that. Right. Comes from literally the bottom. And now he's here. So he had to show, literally, the world, like, look, you can come here, too, American kid.

[Tim Pool]

You know, one of the. One of the great things about J.D. vance is he. Was he in that speech. He was talking to European leaders the exact same way that he talked to Margaret.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He's like, I'm not putting up with your B.S. like, you're not doing that well.

[Libby Emmons]

The same way he talks to everybody, which is what Trump does, too, which is great.

[Tim Pool]

And it's also good. It was also good to see Marco Rubio, which. Not that I think that Margot Rubio is some. Is spineless or anything.

[Libby Emmons]

He's doing well.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's doing really, really well. And he's carrying out the policies that Donald Trump wants. He's not. It's. Marco Rubio is not. It does not seem like Marco Rubio has any interest in throwing a wrench into the works of the administration. He is there to do what Donald Trump wants, and that is refres. And it's also something that we need because the. You know, like, Mike Benz talks about the Blob. It's a State Department, it's dod, and it's CIA. Right. So that's the three.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, he's the one talking about the tendrils, too. Or the butt flies.

[Saka Masaquai]

The butt fly flies.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay. Whatever disgusting thing that is. And he's.

[Ian Crossland]

You don't know what that is?

[Libby Emmons]

I don't want to know.

[Ian Crossland]

It's a parasitic fly that lays its eggs onto your skin.

[Saka Masaquai]

I would actually want to hear the whole thing.

[Ian Crossland]

They. They lay their eggs under your skin. And you'll get, like, a bug bite. No, no, you get, like, a red bump, and then eventually the. It opens up into a hole, and the lava, like, is in your skin, sticking its head out, looking around.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, God. Dude.

[Tim Pool]

It'S gross.

[Ian Crossland]

Hey, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. That's how I viewed the Deep state.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

See? Exactly. Now you know how I feel.

[Saka Masaquai]

It kind of reminds me. You remember Total Recall? The Schwarzenegger one?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

The guy's like, yeah, like, that's what.

[Ian Crossland]

Have you guys ever seen, like, a. A lotus bloom or whatever?

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Where it's like. It's got all the little holes in the seed pods. Imagine that. But instead of seeds, it's. It's, you know, maggots, sticky big ones.

[Tim Pool]

Ew.

[Ian Crossland]

Smiling at you like, our viewership's gonna drop by 10,000 right now. People, like, turn it off.

[Tim Pool]

It's gross.

[Saka Masaquai]

Or go up by 10.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no, no, no. Hold on, guys. I really. I really want to stress this. I hope everyone at home listening whenever they think of the Deep State apparatus, that vision of bot flies are in their brain, like that association is a good thing.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Recoil in disgust.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[Libby Emmons]

I've mostly thought of, like, roots and stuff. Like.

[Ian Crossland]

No, that's too nice.

[Saka Masaquai]

That is too nice.

[Ian Crossland]

That's trees, flowers with trees, and there's.

[Libby Emmons]

Flowers, you know, poison. Poison.

[Ian Crossland]

Roots. When you say there's roots, I imagine, like, bunnies hopping around and.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, there's bunnies smiling.

[Ian Crossland]

Trees singing a song.

[Libby Emmons]

Fang bunnies. You know, fang bun bunnies.

[Saka Masaquai]

Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

Your mind still makes me laugh. Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

It's so easy. It's nice. Bot fly's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, Gross. Sit there and watch them coming in and out of.

[Libby Emmons]

But this is what Ben talks about is it's so deep in the, I don't know, maggots or whatever. It's so deep that when we start unraveling it, it's like the aca. Remember when all the legislators were like, oh, you know, we're not going to know what's in Obamacare until we enact it. That's like, we're not going to know what all USA ID was doing until we cut it.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I'll pull up a picture of bot flies in the members portion the rumble section of the show.

[Libby Emmons]

So talk about something down.

[Ian Crossland]

I just want everyone to associate the deep state with an IM of bot.

[Tim Pool]

Fly larva image of gross.

[Saka Masaquai]

I think I like that. I like. Let's push that. I'm gonna. I'm tweet that later. We got to get on top of that one.

[Ian Crossland]

All right, we got a bunch of these stories. Which one do we want to jump to? There's, there's, there's a whole bunch. And, you know, the world is our.

[Tim Pool]

All kinds of RFK stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

There is. We could talk about the RFK stuff. We also have the judge denying the Doge block. Why don't we go with RFK Jr. No, let's, let's, let's, let's do this. Let's do tariffs. What do you guys think? Tariffs.

[Saka Masaquai]

Tariffs? Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Why not?

[Ian Crossland]

All right, tariffs it is. From the Post Millennial Trump says auto tariffs will be 25% or higher to begin April 2nd. I'll probably tell you that in April 2nd, but it'll be in the neighborhood of 25%. This is huge.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, let's go.

[Ian Crossland]

Last week, Trump said that new tariffs on automobiles could take effect as early as April. His comments come ahead of reports from his Cabinet members who are scheduled to present options on various import duties as part of his broader effort to restructure global trade. I'm a fan. They say that currently the European Union applies a 10% tariff on vehicle imports, four times the 2.5% rate the US charges. However, the US maintains a 25 tariff on pickup trucks. So this is, this is big. I'm in favor of it.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

What do you guys think?

[Tim Pool]

I mean, if, if the, the, well, the auto tariffs at 25. I mean, it. If we can inspire American companies to actually build cars in America, I think that's a universal good. I don't know. Like, I've always ascribed to libertarian kind of ideas around economics and Stuff like that. But I was totally wrong about when. When Donald Trump, in his first term, he was talking about a trade war with China, and everyone's like, oh, blah, blah, blah. Trade war, trades so terrible. And I was like, this is a bad idea. And I was totally wrong. You know, China essentially folded. And if that's the goal to. If this is about bargaining, you know, let the man cook, because I don't know as nearly as much as he does. But I do think if we can bring, you know, bring jobs back to the United States or create jobs in the US Particularly, I think, personally, particularly in the, in the, in the semiconductor area. So that way we have at least enough production capacity of chips to take care of the. The government and the military. Because how about we just.

[Ian Crossland]

How about we just ban cars? Nobody can have a car. Ban them all. And. And then Trump could force everyone to buy electric vehicles by 2030.

[Libby Emmons]

We already do that. And he said, no way. We're not.

[Ian Crossland]

California's doing that.

[Libby Emmons]

Are they doing it anyway?

[Ian Crossland]

They're banning gas vehicles.

[Saka Masaquai]

Vehicles.

[Libby Emmons]

They're doing it anyway, which is insane. New York tried to do that as well. I don't know if it was.

[Saka Masaquai]

It's not gonna like you or something. Come for Gabby.

[Ian Crossland]

Listen, listen. Let me just say they're the. The plan of Democrats in the deep state is that you will live in the pod and you will eat the.

[Libby Emmons]

Bugs and you will not be able to go anywhere because once you have an electric car, they can just shut off your power and you're stranded and.

[Ian Crossland]

You can't work either.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, all cars. Yeah, this is all cars made after. I want to say it was 20, 21 or 22. They have like the automatic shutoff switch now.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

Congress passed that.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, not only that in gas cars.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. The cars after every car. What was it after?

[Libby Emmons]

What do you mean? Like, you could be driving your car.

[Ian Crossland]

And the police can be like.

[Saka Masaquai]

And you're like, what the hell? Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Wow.

[Libby Emmons]

So just buy old cars.

[Saka Masaquai]

Everything pre2020.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, you want, you want like a 60s Mustang or something that's mechanical.

[Libby Emmons]

Doesn't want a 60s Mustang.

[Tim Pool]

That's a dream 90s Ford F1 or 250 or something like that, because they're not converted to.

[Ian Crossland]

And you want to be able to drive stick shift.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I don't have.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Automatic transmission busts. You're done.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, I guess.

[Ian Crossland]

But when the solar flare comes, everybody in those mechanical cars is going to be like, what's problem?

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, exactly.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. Those are the 1960s Mustang.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's like, yeah, 69, 67, 69. Drop top black.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm just going to. I'm just going to say this nice old Cadillac. I'm not going to investigate anymore what Trump is doing as it relates to the economy, because everything the Democrats, all their plans are, relate to living in the pot and eating the bugs. So I'm gonna go ahead and assume that whatever Trump is doing, the opposite is the opposite of that and just roll with it.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's pretty fair assumption.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm sort of what I've been thinking, too, especially when it comes to bringing jobs back to the United States and implementing tariffs. I mean, when you look at. When he starts talking about it. He was talking about it today from his press conference at the winter White House, and he was talking about how.

[Saka Masaquai]

Winter White House, Mar A Lago. I was like. I was like, where's she talking? Oh, yeah, that's right. That's good.

[Libby Emmons]

But, but yeah, he was talking about how all of these other countries charge us these huge tariffs and we don't charge them equivalent tariffs. And it's because we are over here being like, well, we're so powerful, we better be magnanimous. No, that magnanimity is just screws.

[Ian Crossland]

There's no magnanimity.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's pretty good.

[Libby Emmons]

That's a word.

[Ian Crossland]

I know. It's just funny.

[Saka Masaquai]

I think it was actually connected more to the coward Piven tactic, which was started after the 64, you know, civil rights act was passed in order to break our economy. It actually tells me with these tariffs, with all the fraud they're finding in Doge, it tells me how rich our country really is, that even when that's happening, someone like Tim can still create a business that's successful. Imagine the tariffs come in equally at best, and we can squeeze out this fraud. How much more could America?

[Libby Emmons]

There was this crazy thing somebody was saying on Twitter. I think it was DC Drano account was saying, like, with all this money that Doge finds and cuts, they should give little remittances. Doge dividend. And Elon Musk was like, let's talk to you guys. Bring it to the President.

[Ian Crossland]

Hold on.

[Libby Emmons]

Like in Alaska, what they do with the oil?

[Ian Crossland]

I think so far the Doge dividend is going to be like $3.

[Libby Emmons]

You know what? I'll take that $3.

[Saka Masaquai]

I'll wait. I'll wait two years. I'll wait two years till they get through the IRS. They get through, like all these different agencies.

[Ian Crossland]

Hey, no. By the end of the year, it could be 80 to 100 bucks.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's fine with me.

[Ian Crossland]

I know that's hot. I mean, that's going to. But you're going out for dinner for one day. You know what I mean?

[Saka Masaquai]

Not in L. A. That's why you put yourself out in dinner.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah. On average. But think about this. Imagine if they, if they save, what are they gonna have to. They're have to muster up, what, a trillion dollars to get everybody 100 bucks or not even 100 bucks.

[Libby Emmons]

You know what? That's all right.

[Ian Crossland]

Still, probably.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's still good.

[Libby Emmons]

You know what?

[Saka Masaquai]

But then also with the tariffs, you're adding that on top of that, too. So you got the tariffs, you got all the fraud, as much as the fraud as possible. And if they start to open up, I mean, I think, I think there's something coming with the IRS and taxes on people. So when you see that coming, places like Florida's taking. Gonna take away, you know, a state tax, and then the government wants to reduce. Ultimate. Reduce your tax. I think Trump wants to just get rid of it altogether.

[Tim Pool]

I would love to see it. But that's. This is all stuff that Congress for.

[Ian Crossland]

I was way off. It's actually $33 billion saved to give each American 100 bucks. So if they can. Right. If they can muster up 300 billions in savings, every American's a thousand dollars.

[Saka Masaquai]

Let's rock.

[Libby Emmons]

Sweet.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And you know what? That's crazy. It's not just a thousand dollars. And you have jobs and your schools maybe don't suck anymore and indoctrinate your kids. And you get a nice car. And you get a car.

[Saka Masaquai]

Seeing them squeeze us as they have, you know, pretty much since the early 1900s when they decided to interact or enact taxes and move away from the tariff system. Look at these cities. And I, you know, I grew up in Chicago, so Evanston, actually. I'm a Northsider, so. Oh, yeah, I know you're a Southsider, but I am a Sox fan. You look, look what's going on with these cities. And it's like they're so broken down. And there's skid row, I used to do feeding, you know, give food giveaways down over in skid row. How does it look like? My family's from Liberia. How does it look like Liberia and skid row where people are living on the street like that? And we have this much money in the country and the person who runs the homeless, that homeless agency is making somewhere around $500,000 to 600,000 a year.

[Libby Emmons]

And most of their money goes to administrative costs.

[Saka Masaquai]

Exactly.

[Libby Emmons]

Look at all of this, like the schools and the NGOs. It all goes to administrative costs. Well, that's why colleges got so expensive too. They just kept like building more and more administrative buildings and having more and more people come in who like, sit around for three hours and then go to lunch and then try and figure out when they're going home. And.

[Saka Masaquai]

And that college was backed by the government, so they could raise it all the time without worrying about actually having to hit any real numbers. So they were trapping people in indentured servitude with all these college loans that were. Go ahead and backed by your government, which then would just squeeze us down even more and more. The coward piven strategy to destroy the American economy, and that's what we've been fighting against, is this new communist action that the Civil Rights act had ushered in. We're now hopefully on the other side of starting to break that up.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean, I'm hopeful that we are on the other side that there, there's. Because, I mean, so I've been complaining about communism for 15, it feels like. For 15 years. Right. Like, and for the most part, for the. A good portion of it, people were like, oh, that's not a problem anymore. That isn't a thing anymore. And it's like, you know, it's2011. And I'm like, no, like, if you go online and you look at the people that are like the things that people on, you know, in the weird spaces on the Internet talking about, like, they're full of commies now. Granted, they were. There were significantly fewer of them back then, but like, communism is an ideology that's really attractive to people that don't know anything about history.

[Saka Masaquai]

I would actually, I would say then that takes us to Hollywood. And so partially, yeah, in 19, in the late 60s or in the late 50s, communism actually interjected itself into the pro black movement. Right. So they started becoming more alive in there. So that's how you see the black community moves the way it does. Because they were the first group of Americans to actually embrace communism without knowing it was communism because they were like, we're being discriminated against now. The Democratic Party, after 65, adopted communism. They've been communist this entire time. Yes. They haven't changed. And then who's the mouthpiece for the Democratic Party? Hollywood. Hollywood. How many World War II movies have we seen from Hollywood talking about fascism and Nazis? Yeah. Then let's ask you how many movies have we seen them talk about communism and Mao a lot? Exactly. That's the point. So people have no idea what communism is because the mouthpiece been telling you it's the guy with the little mustache.

[Tim Pool]

That falls into the strategy of people like Solinsky. And further back the communists in the 50s and stuff they used to, they would say look, you should go and accuse your opponents of being fascist, accused them of being Nazis, accused them of this because it, because people are so revolted by those ideas and by that kind of ideology.

[Saka Masaquai]

Especially when they're showing us over and over like man, look what they did to Jews and look what they did to Europe. Right. And you have when you said 2011 or isn't many of them. No, my argument is the Democratic Party were and so was Hollywood.

[Tim Pool]

They weren't so openly and exactly flying.

[Saka Masaquai]

They weren't flying it then.

[Ian Crossland]

Before we jump to the next segment, I want to take the opportunity once again as we're talking about living the ponding in the bugs, I implore people to look into their states worker classification laws. They've been sweeping the country and they've been completely overlooked by the right. They are effectively making it illegal to work. That's it. They if, if, if this one is missed moving forward, California, West Virginia notoriously have some of the worst laws. I've been reading into it. We are going to be 20 years from now, your child will be looking for work and they'll say my options are Amazon and Walmart. And you'll say, well, why don't you just see if the local grocery store has any, has any, you know, gigs. Maybe you can maybe go to a local bar and do some bar backing stuff for today. Oh no, it's illegal. What do you mean? When I was, when I was living in Chicago, I went to a bunch of bars looking for work and one guy said, if you help out tonight, I'll give you 40 bucks.

[Saka Masaquai]

Right, right.

[Ian Crossland]

Illegal. Illegal. We are moving towards. So there was something that happened in West Virginia. A statement was made by activists in West Virginia returning to gun rights, where the Biden administration wanted to make it so that all gun transfers had to happen at an ffl, a licensed gun shop. And in West Virginia, which has mountainous, very rural areas, there were people, the advocacy groups were basically saying, there's a guy who lives two and a half hours from the nearest city and his brother is 10 minutes down the road. He needs to give his brother a gun to protect his house from wild animals, which there are many, or to hunt. So they both have to drive two and a half hours into a city so that he can hand the weapon. That's ridiculous. Now we are heading in that direction with overregulation, where if the Democrats had their way, that's what you would have to do. These, these gig economy or Uber laws that are passing all over the, all over the country. 34 states have some variation of them. Tennessee's got it. West Virginia's got it. Virginia's a little bit better. Illinois, Florida, they've all got it. These, these legislators, legislatures in these states have been passing this and no one on the right has said anything about it.

[Libby Emmons]

That's not true that no one in the right has said anything about it.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, when California passed, I think was called SB5. It was a huge scandal.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And now over the past seven, seven years, it's swept across the country, hitting almost every single state without so much as a news cycle.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and the federal government, Right, that's right. The pro act. This is what Biden was pushing. And every time he brought it up, I would write about it and I would say, guys, this is bad. It means you can't work.

[Ian Crossland]

It's communist.

[Libby Emmons]

It means you can't wait for your, Your children need to be able to work for yourself. Like, that's just the basis of everything. It's. You will live in the potting, get a job. If I can't get someone else to give me permission to earn a living. Like, I need. I don't need permission to earn a living. That should be what every American says is, I don't need a permission to earn a living. You have all these people on the left saying, like, having it all is a right, but it's like, no, nothing. No. You have the right to earn your own food. You don't need someone to give you permission.

[Tim Pool]

Stop at you don't need permission.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't need permission.

[Tim Pool]

That's it. That's the whole thing.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't need.

[Tim Pool]

Don't need. You don't need permission. If you. In the United States, we are ostensibly a free country. That means that you don't need permission to go do things. There's a meme on the Internet, you know, you can just go do things anymore.

[Saka Masaquai]

I mean, but Tim, this is good. I'm happy you're talking about this because you're talking about 20 years in your kid, like at this point now, and I got an 11 month old, you're about to have one. That's our kids.

[Ian Crossland]

That's right.

[Saka Masaquai]

Like if we don't do something now.

[Ian Crossland]

Our kids are going to grow up in a society where the presumption of access to resources come from government approved institutions only.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, but that's what they've been trying to do this whole time. They've been trying to do this communist, you know, they want, they want you to have, they want you to. Your main partner in life to be the government. This was, I've brought this up before, but do you guys remember the ad for Obamacare during the Biden administration? And it was this woman, Julia, and it was like she was this little cartoon and it taught, it showed her like going through life. She'd go through school, government school. She'd go get a job, be a government job. She'd have a baby, the government would provide it. She got pregnant. You never even saw a man in this cartoon.

[Tim Pool]

There was an outrage among the right for a reason. The idea that you should expect to depend on the government from birth to death is offensive to a percentage of the population and it should be a larger percentage than it is. But the, like, you're, we're talking about communism. This is teaching kids to be communists without, without any of the theory. You don't have to teach people. Marx, to teach them to be communists.

[Ian Crossland]

Let me, let me stress what this law in West Virginia does and what it's not just West Virginia, but it's what's happening to us. If you want to work, either your employer has to ask the government for permission or you have to ask the government for permission. What they've explained to us is a corporation goes to the government and requests the right to hire people and has to pay the government money to do it, payroll taxes and, you know, and service tax and things like this. If you are an individual and you want to do a series of jobs or production for various companies, you have to first go to the government file for a West Virginia business, file for a license, open a bank account for that business and operate that entity. You need to get permission from the government to work.

[Libby Emmons]

That's absolutely insane.

[Ian Crossland]

And that's 34 states are doing this. And at the federal level, the Department of Labor has enacted rules trying to make this federal.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, Joe Biden ran on it. He was trying to get it through Congress.

[Ian Crossland]

These people are evil.

[Libby Emmons]

It's insane. When they did that one in California, I was working freelance. I lived in New York City and New York was trying to do it too. And California and New York have legislators that work together to get laws passed in California first. Yeah. And then they get them. Then they get Them, those same laws passed. They did it with trans sanctuary state and some other stuff. And so New York was doing it too. And I was looking at it and I was like, I work for myself writing for all of these different outlets. And that's how I was like, you know, I had to start a new career. This is how I was paying my bills, feeding my kid, like, paying my rent. And I was like, they're trying to make it illegal for me to work in a way that is consistent with being able to raise my son and all of this stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

Think about how that translates. So as a writer, you would write for. Let's say you write for three different organizations.

[Libby Emmons]

It was like 10 for sure.

[Ian Crossland]

And so what they're trying to say is, no, pick one. They have to hire you full time. Well, they won't. They're gonna say, we won't do it. They don't have fired.

[Libby Emmons]

And they're small. Like outlets are really small. The Post Millennial, we have, we have what, like 12 people on staff or something like that? You know, we're just a little outlet.

[Ian Crossland]

So you and your garage make birdhouses and then you've got three, three nursing homes that like to buy a birdhouse once a month, each of them. And yeah, each of them because they break and the old people like it. And then one day the government comes to you and says, you either get hired as a full time employee making birdhouses for one nursing home, or you can't work ever again.

[Saka Masaquai]

Wow. They're trying to stifle. I mean, with the gig economy, it's really. I remember in the 90s it was the, the fastest growth, growth of millionaires because of the Internet. And they're trying to cut that off at the pass with, with the, with the gig economy.

[Ian Crossland]

Right, let's just, let's just pause real quick. The gig economy economy emerges. Uber Lyft, Doordash, Seamless, Uber Eats, blah, blah, blah. All of a sudden there's a bunch of apps that allow you to instantly connect to other people for exchange of goods and services. Understand that California, West Virginia, Florida, Illinois, New York, all of these states that are doing this are basically saying, oh no, the people have figured out how to work for each other. Quick, make it illegal.

[Saka Masaquai]

Right, right.

[Ian Crossland]

That's what they're doing. I believe. If you want to work, if you want, if you want to be an independent contractor. This is the funny thing, I actually agree with Uber. Uber's argument was we're a social media app that connects one user to another. We don't we don't hire anybody. In which case you're not even an independent contractor. You are just literally someone using an app to connect somebody else.

[Libby Emmons]

You're like a sole proprietor.

[Ian Crossland]

Uber. Uber should have no recommendation requirement to be an employer. They say, here's an app. If someone presses I need a ride, then someone who wants to give a ride can connect to them. And we're not employing anybody. And that's the way it should be.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, that's.

[Tim Pool]

That's what it was. That was, that's what it was supposed.

[Saka Masaquai]

To be in the store. So cheap.

[Libby Emmons]

Doordash and other stuff.

[Saka Masaquai]

It was so cheap back in the day. But you know this communist move, a warning I want to put out there to everyone. If you want to see the results of it, look at the black communities in cities. Because that's the ones that rely the most on on the government. That's the ones that get more government jobs. You want to see the results of what communism looks like in America? The black community in every city, major city in this country is the result of that. No father. Like you were saying, you didn't see a man in the picture. Cuz the government's daddy.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, right.

[Saka Masaquai]

I talked to a friend of mine who's a Chicago police officer. She's like, you have no idea how many mothers, single moms, I get called so that they can come deal with their sons. That's supposed to be my job. And your job and your job not supposed to be a government. So that's my warning for communists.

[Ian Crossland]

Let's do a. Let's do a hard segue into this story for the post Millennial New Black Queer woman to play Jesus Christ in Jesus Christ Superstar musical at Hollywood Bowl.

[Libby Emmons]

You like my headline?

[Ian Crossland]

Cynthia and Revo. Is that his name? Cynthia Erivo will be playing Jesus in the upcoming Hollywood bowl production of Jesus Christ Superstar.

[Tim Pool]

Look, Jesus Christ Superstar was blasphemous anyway. So true.

[Libby Emmons]

I like it.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you really?

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, still blasphemous, but that's okay.

[Libby Emmons]

So, yeah, about Godspell.

[Ian Crossland]

So, so, so let's, let's hold on. I need some context here, guys. I don't understand. Am I supposed to be offended that a black woman is Jesus?

[Libby Emmons]

No, it's a British woman. She's like got a British accent and everything. How could a British person ever play Jesus?

[Saka Masaquai]

It does sound funny. When I hear Australians or Brits talk about Jesus Christ and God, I'm like, that sounds funny, but no, sounds funny.

[Ian Crossland]

Why not? I don't know.

[Libby Emmons]

No, I just thought it was interesting. And that people.

[Ian Crossland]

Why can't she be Jesus?

[Libby Emmons]

Because she's female.

[Tim Pool]

Might be.

[Saka Masaquai]

Jesus was a guy.

[Libby Emmons]

This was a man.

[Saka Masaquai]

He was a man. The only man, a man.

[Libby Emmons]

And sexuality was not part of what was his driving cause world.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. And it was sinless man.

[Ian Crossland]

And why is Jesus Christ superstar blasphemous?

[Tim Pool]

Because it's. It's supposed to be Judas. Work management platforms, endless onboarding, IT bottlenecks, admin requests.

[Saka Masaquai]

But what if things were different? Monday.com is different.

[Tim Pool]

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[Saka Masaquai]

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[Tim Pool]

Rethinking whether or not Jesus was actually the son of God.

[Libby Emmons]

But that's what he was doing when he collected his silver in the first place.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. Even though he followed him, he moved away from him because the money was even better. This right here, though, this is again another example with the queer pastors. That woman who tried to beray Trump, then you find out she was getting paid by USA.

[Libby Emmons]

Didn't her church get like 58 million?

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, 58 million.

[Ian Crossland]

It was. Yeah, it was a nonprofit or something. Or the church.

[Saka Masaquai]

But all of this is why, and actually I commend you, Tim, because I know you're not deep in as a Christian, but you respect kind of what Christianity has done for the world and the country. And we need to get back to that, as I would say, like to call it, become more biblical Americans. Doesn't mean you have to be a Baptist or Catholic or anything but biblical Americans. You understand, our foundation, our founding fathers, our Gen Z's of the time, if you will, were the ones that used the Bible. It's referenced 36 times in our Constitution and our Bill of Rights as our foundation. And if we don't get back to that understanding things like this and people can come up and they can do that, he gets us washing feet of transgenders and people who are still on drugs and not understanding there is actually a core foundation of turning away from your issues, turning away from keep doing those terrible things in your life so that you can get, you know, receive a better life and that love of Christ. So if we start to get back there and be bold and Christians, I believe we've advocated too much of the space, the social space, and that's why we're struggling the way we are. We need to get back into the schools, we need to get back into Entertainment. We need to get back into music so that we can start to shift our culture back to understanding who we are. And one little point I want to make, too. My great, great, great grandfather, Mamalu Massaqua, who was the first ambassador from Liberia to Germany, he came over here and went to school in Tennessee, and in 1892, would travel the US go to educational conferences. In his speech, he would talk about the greatness of this country that would outlast that outlast those of the past and those to come. Because the foundation is in Jesus Christ. This is a black man dressed up in all garb, going around to the south, went to school in Tennessee and everything, talking about this is what makes us great, is our foundation in Jesus Christ. Christ. So we have to get back to. Is why they wanted to move us away from God and just, you know, look up to, hey, whatever you want to do, you know?

[Tim Pool]

I know. I know exactly why. Because religion generally offers peace and it offers community. And the left needs unhappy people that are. That are atomized because happy people do not engage in revolutionary activities. The left needs people pissed off. That's why they're activists. That's why they're out protesting, because they're trying to get eyes on them and get other people that might be upset easily, too.

[Ian Crossland]

But, but, but also you have this element of, I don't want to say like the red pill, that's the old name for these groups, but these, These individuals, these influencers who are very much telling men to sleep. As many women as possible.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, they're godless, though.

[Ian Crossland]

Andrew Tate recently said, you know something, the effect of, you know, a man. A man should have as. With kids with as many women as possible. Like, you're a conqueror or whatever. And I was just thinking, father, but I was just thinking about that, and I was like, the whole of the Western world and the greatest civilization this planet has seen is built upon the Christian moral tradition and monogamy.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

And so by all means, you can advocate for whatever you want, but certainly in other parts of the world that don't have these moral traditions, we never saw the success we see here in the United States.

[Saka Masaquai]

They're struggling. Yeah, it's done. It's. That's. I mean, the setup is you start with Christ, then you go to the man is. Is the. The head of the household, which is the first form of government. We all know this. Right. Why do you. That's why they work so hard and they showed us in the black community, you take the man out now, there Is no source of government. They have to look to daddy state to please help us just to live and survive. And why are you taking away food stamps and all this? That and the other.

[Ian Crossland]

Yo, yo. It is crazy to me that when I was growing up, so many of my friends were like, I'm broke. I need to find a job. And my worldview was very different. I would just. I would always be like, no, you need money. I was like, this is a distinction between needing to find a job and needing money. A job is basically, if you're saying, like, you want a stable source of income over a long period of time without having to think too much about it. Right now, you need to find out how to make money. And there's a bunch of different ways you can do it. I was like, homie, take your guitar and go on the side of the street in Wrigleyville and just play the guitar. You'll make 100 bucks in a couple hours.

[Saka Masaquai]

They couldn't process that because I believe. I remember growing up and an idea was, you got to go to college, you got to go to college, you got to go to college, you got.

[Libby Emmons]

To go to college. It's like you were expected to go to college.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yes.

[Libby Emmons]

I was six years old.

[Saka Masaquai]

And if you did the machine and you feel like a failure because that was the cultural push that you felt like a failure if you didn't go to college. I didn't like college. My wife was like, I didn't want to go, but everybody told me I had to go.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So we're.

[Saka Masaquai]

It's, you know, kudos to you that you're like, well, I don't get that. I'll just go make my own thing. But that's not what the schools are telling us. Growing up. That's not, you know, up in evidence.

[Ian Crossland]

I did my own research. I found that college dropout billionaires, on average, had three times the. The wealth of college graduate billionaires.

[Saka Masaquai]

Really?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. All the famous stories we all like, you know. You know, what's really fascinating to me is that in my community growing up, which was music and skateboarding, all the big names were dropouts, high school dropouts. So a lot of the big pro skateboarders just never went to high school. Why? Well, they were making tons of money as a professional athlete, so they said, school isn't for me. I will pursue what my career is. And then you have all these stories of, like, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates dropping out of college and starting companies and making a bunch of money, and then I'm sitting here being like, all of my friends who are going to college have no, no, no path forward, no plan. And then all of these stories we hear of the most successful people are they stopped going to school. Okay, I guess I'm not gonna do that. And then what happens? We have a generation of people who don't know how to work for themselves. And that was always the point. You will live in the potty, you'll eat the bugs and you will have black queer female Jesus Christ. Jesus.

[Libby Emmons]

What we have now is a. Now we have a Jesus who's being played by an actress who's a witch.

[Ian Crossland]

And likely has utter disdain for the religion.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. Of course. She's non binary and is also driven in her art by her political ideologies that are driven by identitarianism and sexual identity. The blast that doesn't have anything to do with Jesus Christ. She also played in this, she played this show before she played Mary Magdalene.

[Tim Pool]

The blasphemy that is happening here is the motivation for her to.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's true.

[Tim Pool]

This like I'm an agnostic. I'm not even like a religious person.

[Saka Masaquai]

Just understand.

[Tim Pool]

It's just, it's just the reason she wants to is the same reason that they made Piss Christ.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, right.

[Libby Emmons]

To put Andre Serrano.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, but I mean that, that's the, that's the motivation.

[Libby Emmons]

Did you just say Piss Christ? Yeah, yeah. It was a photograph.

[Saka Masaquai]

The name is ridiculous.

[Libby Emmons]

It was literally funded by the NEA in the 90s. Tell them what it is, artists. This photographer, Andres Serrano submerged a crucifix in urine and then photographed it. Yeah, and we paid for it, you guys. We paid for that. And the party one time.

[Tim Pool]

The point of that is to blaspheme is to mock the religion. So the re like she's doing this. Just the fact that she's doing this, she's like, look at me, my identity, blah blah, blah. And I'm playing Jesus Christ. I'm playing the lamb of God. I'm playing the most pure man that's ever lived.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, and the funny thing is the Bible talks about this. It says that they will be haters and mockers of God. Like they make. They, they come at you. Because they came at me first. This isn't new, Ecclesiastes. Nothing new under the sun. But I like, I like. Cause Cynthia Erivo, it sounds like a Nigerian name and it makes me think, man, if they dropped her in a village in Nigeria, I guarantee she wouldn't be non binary anymore.

[Libby Emmons]

She has ridiculous.

[Saka Masaquai]

She'll be a black woman.

[Ian Crossland]

Certainly not.

[Libby Emmons]

She's from. She's from the uk.

[Saka Masaquai]

No, no, the last. The last name. I'm saying, like the origin of her.

[Ian Crossland]

Cynthia's not a Nigerian name.

[Saka Masaquai]

No, no, no. Stupid Revo.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, you said Cynthia Erivo. Sounds like General.

[Saka Masaquai]

No, no, Revo does, though. Yeah, but if you took her and you just dropped her right into that village, that little random village with no electricity, that non binary stuff goes out the window.

[Ian Crossland]

That's true for all of the young people in the United States. Look, there was Transistinians, a viral story where a guy said it was a Reddit post, that his school informed him that his daughter was a trans boy. And his response was, oh, wow, I had no idea. Thank you so much. What do I do? And they said, gender affirming care and all this stuff. And he says, absolutely, just. Just tell me where to go. Go to the doctor. This is really amazing. Thank you for helping my child. And then immediately started packing up, planned to move, found another job, and then told the school, thank you so much for all of your help. I'm moving for work, but we'll make sure to get my dog, my son, the treatment he needs. And then moved to a rural area, got his daughter away from all this stuff, and then he was like, within three to six months, he was back to being a normal teenage girl.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yep, yep. If you look at the statistics, it's the blue areas where more kids have identified as these trans and flippins and whatever they want to call furries and all this stuff. It's literally indoctrination in these blue areas. Like left Internet, too.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, don't give them the Internet, because predators are online and misery loves company.

[Saka Masaquai]

How long are you thinking you're gonna wait till your kids get to.

[Ian Crossland]

My kid won't know the Internet exists. I told Allison we're gonna build a time capsule house looks like the 1980s, and we're going to raise my daughter as if it's the 80s. And then just one day when she's old enough, we'll be like, whoa, we're in the future. And these strange devices. Good thing you're an adult.

[Saka Masaquai]

What you think, like 22?

[Ian Crossland]

We're gonna. We're gonna. We're gonna live in an underground bunker where we have nothing but 80s content because the 80s was the best decade. And we're gonna be like, we live underground because the Soviets dropped a bomb and wiped everybody out.

[Tim Pool]

And then I started watching the. The Fallout.

[Saka Masaquai]

Fallout show.

[Libby Emmons]

I watched that with my son. We had Fun watching that. Knows the Internet exists. He's probably watching the show right now.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

She'll. She'll just one day wake up and it'll be the year 20. 2030. 2040 or whatever.

[Saka Masaquai]

42 or something.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Powered cars, dad.

[Ian Crossland]

And I'll be like, we must be in the future. Strange.

[Saka Masaquai]

Remember the Jetsons? Remember I showed you that?

[Ian Crossland]

We're here. The Internet, what a strange thing.

[Saka Masaquai]

What, dad, away from that. You put on your hazmat suit. Every time you just to leave and come to do the show and you go back in there, you're like, yeah, I'm just getting this.

[Ian Crossland]

The air is poison. If you go outside, you'll die.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Stay indoors till you're 20.

[Saka Masaquai]

Okay, fair enough.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know. I think, I think no cell phone, no Internet, no social media, probably. And it's really what matters is we're looking at 2041. Like, when is this really going to matter for my child? I mean, honestly, in 13 years or 2038, who knows what social media and, and, and all of this stuff is gonna look like? For all we know by then, TikTok is gone and everyone's in neuralink. And then we're just like, you ain't getting neuralink.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And then she's like, but all my friends have neuralink. And they're all networked and floating around and humming to each other in a strange binary. Muttering.

[Libby Emmons]

We're like, that's the Binar, son.

[Ian Crossland]

That's right.

[Saka Masaquai]

Have you guys ever seen those, Those videos of. And I did it one time at like an arts show in LA where they give people individual headsets sets and it has different music on there.

[Libby Emmons]

They do like this.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, and people, like, kind of just hang out. You're with each other, but you're not. And everyone's dancing. That is what you're talking about.

[Ian Crossland]

Quiet, quiet raves.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. And so that could be the world of people.

[Ian Crossland]

I was so, So I. Whenever I drive the Tesla, whenever I drive it, I. I press the auto drive and then I just sit there half glazed over, like as the car drives for me.

[Saka Masaquai]

Whoa.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah, it's a Tesla, bro. Yeah, you punch in the address, you press go, and it just drives. No, just put your hands on your lap and you sit there and you stare out the window.

[Tim Pool]

They're currently safer than people. Yeah, Anomalies.

[Saka Masaquai]

So is not freedom.

[Libby Emmons]

But hey, freedom is definitely safer.

[Saka Masaquai]

Safer than freedom.

[Ian Crossland]

So here's the thing. Allison hates it and she's uses to use it. And I told her I was like, you do realize that in 14 years, our daughter's gonna be like, mom, just let the robot drive. Dad lets the robot drive. And she's like, yeah, well, your father also just trusts the machine, blah, blah, and then starts laughing like, that's exactly what's gonna happen. But I'm like, I don't know. Who knows? At that point, we'll be in flying cars. Probably not.

[Libby Emmons]

Either that or we will have regressed and none of this will exist anymore. There'll be solar flares. Everything will be demagnetized. We will have lost all the data.

[Saka Masaquai]

You know, that's if the happens, though, too.

[Libby Emmons]

That's what that's like. Or. Or if just something screwy happens.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, I say. I say, look, don't be afraid. Don't be afraid of the future. But, like, there are certain skill sets that I think human beings should try to, you know, have within themselves.

[Ian Crossland]

You ever. You ever watch Dr. Stone?

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, the anime?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

It's Magic School Bus for kids who like anime.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Or it's Magical Bus for little boys. And Whereas Magic School Boys is, like, not fun, but it's basically this simple version. Humanity is wiped out. Long story short, thousands of years later, people. People are turned to stone. Thousands of years later, some people wake up and they have to build the world from scratch. It's actually.

[Saka Masaquai]

It's actually interesting.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it's really interesting when he's like, here's how you make wax and like, here's how you get magnets. And like, I'm like, man, I actually learned a bunch of weird survival stuff.

[Saka Masaquai]

From watching anime for sitting back and just kind of like. Like kind of edging out and being like. All sudden you're like, oh, wait, this is how you make candle wax. It's crazy.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, like finding magnets by, like, bringing iron to a river and then. And then waving it around until you see. Until you can feel the attraction. There's like, weird stuff they don't like.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's. Well, you know what the Boy Scouts doing what they've done you, Dr. Stone, actually, it's a good tool.

[Ian Crossland]

Now, that's actually really sad that we don't have, like, a Boy Scouts functional anymore.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, there.

[Ian Crossland]

What is it? The People Scouts?

[Libby Emmons]

No, but there's Trail.

[Ian Crossland]

Little People Scouts.

[Libby Emmons]

There's Trail Life.

[Ian Crossland]

Trail Life.

[Libby Emmons]

There's Trail Life. And this one for girls, which I always just think of as American girls, but it's not that. But there's. It's like heritage or something. But yeah, it's in a lot of churches. And it's not necessarily run by the church, but it's its own organization. But it's more like actual traditional Boy Scouts. And the girls have one and the boys have one, and the boys do adventure stuff and it's. Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

And the girls stay in the kitchen and cook.

[Libby Emmons]

The girls have adventure stuff, but they also cook.

[Saka Masaquai]

There you go.

[Libby Emmons]

So. But the boys learn how to do stuff like they do stuff. It's a. It's not the Boy Scouts and it's not that big glommy, probably USAID funded organization.

[Saka Masaquai]

Right, right.

[Libby Emmons]

Instead, it's like much more just adventure. Adventure stuff. It's local.

[Saka Masaquai]

Did you guys hear about the, like, the Girl Scout cookies being poisoned?

[Ian Crossland]

What?

[Libby Emmons]

No.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, my.

[Libby Emmons]

Are these the ones that are in my cupboard right now? What's going on?

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, it's like the f. The fda. Oh, my goodness. Man. I'm sorry. We just cut over real hard. But they. Apparently it has a bunch of stuff in it that, like, is poisonous for you.

[Libby Emmons]

Which ones?

[Saka Masaquai]

All of them.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I know you say poisonous.

[Ian Crossland]

What?

[Saka Masaquai]

I mean, like, like.

[Tim Pool]

You mean like red number five, like arsenic? All of it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Right.

[Saka Masaquai]

Just a little bit of arsenal.

[Tim Pool]

Like cyanide. Like it's a cyanide or like, you know. Yeah, exactly. There's a difference. You know, they're both poison. One is a little more immediate than the other.

[Ian Crossland]

It's just like RFK Jr. Kinds of poison. Or. Or like the little green face with the tongue sticking.

[Tim Pool]

Or Tylenol. Had to change the whole caplet thing.

[Saka Masaquai]

Crossed out on each side. No, remember that little thing, that little.

[Ian Crossland]

Green sticker with the eyes and the tongue. And you'd see, your parents would stick it on stuff so the kids, like, don't touch it.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, yeah, that was. That was a 90s kid. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

They had these little stickers. There's like a green face, it's eyes x'd out and tongue sticking out. And parents would put it on cleaners and stuff and tell the kids, that means you'll get sick.

[Libby Emmons]

My parents didn't do anything like that. They'd be like, here's a fork.

[Ian Crossland]

There's an outlet.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Bleach and the ammonia and then go spiff.

[Ian Crossland]

It believed in you.

[Libby Emmons]

Obviously. Don't.

[Tim Pool]

They believed in you.

[Ian Crossland]

Let's. We got to jump to the story. We got this one from ABC news. Speaking to RFK Jr here. RFK Jr tells staff he will investigate childhood vaccine schedule antidepressant drugs. We have this tweet from Libs of TikTok just in RFK junior To investigate chronic disease, ultra processed food, electromagnetic radiation, childhood vaccine schedule, glyphosate and pesticides, artificial food additives, SRI and antidepressants, microplastics, and more. I would just like to stress YouTube. This is the HHS of the government of the United States saying this right now. And I just demonetized already. I guess I have to say, well, the secretary of the HHS must be wrong because we are not allowed to talk to a doctor. How about the guy who runs it? Last Thursday, President Trump signed an executive order to establish the commission.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

To study what has caused the precipitous decline in American health over the past two generations. So we will convene representatives of all viewpoints to study the causes for the drastic rise in chronic disease. Some of the possible factors we will investigate were formerly taboo or insufficiently scrutinized. A childhood vaccine schedule, electromagnetic radiation, glyphosate, other pesticides, ultra processed foods, artificial food allergies, SSRI and other psychiatric drugs, BFAs, PFOAs, microplastics. Nothing is going to be off limits. Whatever belief or suspicion I have expressed in the past, I'm willing to subject them all to the scrutiny of unbiased science that is going to be our template. Unbiased science. I just like to point out how weird it is that RFK Jr. Is like, perhaps we should investigate these chemicals and how they affect us. And the entirety of the Democratic Party.

[Saka Masaquai]

Was like, yeah, yeah, that's. That's so wild. I think the rest of that video he says in Girl Scout cookies too.

[Ian Crossland]

That's something that will make us all.

[Saka Masaquai]

Proud of this agency and of our role.

[Ian Crossland]

He does say microplastics. And I'm wondering if there was like.

[Saka Masaquai]

They'Re in our underwear.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Like, RFK Jr. Went to the doctor one day like 20 years ago, and he's like, so how's my physical doc? And he's like, you have plastic in your balls. And he went, what? And that's like, started him off on this journey of like, we must stop the health epidemic.

[Libby Emmons]

There's, there's, that stuff's in everything. Like, I've been seeing all these on my stupid Instagram. I see all these things that are like, Lululemon has microplastics in it. It's like, those are $200. Like, what do you mean they're plastic?

[Saka Masaquai]

You got high end plastic, high end plastics.

[Libby Emmons]

Or like, there's some companies that make jeans and they will be like, these are made from recycled plastic bottles. So you're helping the environment. It's like, I don't want to wear it. No, I don't want to.

[Saka Masaquai]

By poisoning your legs.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't want genitalia. I don't want any piece of that.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

But what's interesting is they, the Democrats are never going to be on board with RFK because he wants to remove SSRIs. And all of the liberal middle aged white women are on antidepressants.

[Saka Masaquai]

Right, Right.

[Libby Emmons]

And they're not willing to give. Well, I mean, let's think about Xanax, a little Chardonnay. You know, that's like the whole after.

[Saka Masaquai]

A lot of Sex in the Cities re. Reruns. No, but to your point about that, that's also how you keep your population dumb.

[Libby Emmons]

Right? That and then Serbia. For the ones who aren't on SSRIs, you have the weed dispensaries everywhere.

[Saka Masaquai]

They kept them open, right? They kept them open in California. California. I, I find it funny. Stores, liquor stores and strip clubs. So. But churches, that's nuts.

[Libby Emmons]

Churches are just beyond the pale.

[Saka Masaquai]

Churches are where you actually get infected. Liquor stores, weed shops and strip clubs.

[Tim Pool]

Are where so crazy.

[Saka Masaquai]

I was very clear who they are. But like that vaccine schedule, it made me laugh because just remembering the confirmation hearing, he goes, I agree with it. It's all fine. And I'm just thinking to myself, they just got to play the game. Play the game, get in there. And then let's see what it really looks like.

[Libby Emmons]

My son had to have really major surgery at five and a half months old. And we couldn't do the surgery if we didn't go along with the vaccine schedule. And I had wanted to do one at a time just to make sure everything was chill. And we couldn't do it. It was like. And it was like, also, I wanted to keep them away from sugar. And the way that they draw blood and babies is they give them sugar and then draw the blood. And I was like, I don't like any of that. Why are we doing all of this?

[Ian Crossland]

So there's a secret. If you go to the. Here's my recommendation. Anybody having a kid, go to Loudoun County, Virginia. You go to the hospital in Loudoun County, Virginia, and they will tell you, they will do whatever you want. This is the wealthiest. It's the highest median income in the country, really. It's where all. Listen, the people in Loudoun county are the people who are getting those fat cat contracts from the government and doing nothing for it. These people know what for and they know what they want. And the doctors in Loudoun county are going to tell you, here's how things look. When you go to the impoverished areas, they tell you that you need to get like the, the ointment for the babies and like the herpes medication and.

[Saka Masaquai]

Like drops all this.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. They give you a bunch of.

[Libby Emmons]

What's this stuff?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. For like herpes or something.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Basically they. If you go to a poorer area, the doctor is going to be like, it is required that your baby get all of the drug addicted, prostitution, you know, cures, because we think you're a filthy dirty person. You go to the rich area and they'll say, what do you want to do? And you'll say, if you go to one of those wealthy areas and say, we don't trust this, that or otherwise, they'll say, no problem.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

Have a nice day.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, it was only because of the surgery. Otherwise my doctors were like fine with what I wanted to do. But he had to have this. I mean he had to have cranial surgery.

[Saka Masaquai]

But to Tim's point, he's right. Like the poor neighborhoods, because a lot of times they don't even know what to look for. And we've gotten to a society of, you know, expert fallacy. Right. So you have so many of these people just trust the science. So many of these doctors that come along and they go, okay, let's give your. Like. The fact that we've advocated parenting as a society has allowed these doctors to literally want to put over a hundred shots into an infant is insane. It's insane. Like it's. I'm not saying that they don't work or some things don't help. I'm not. I don't even know. But just to, to. To porcupine prick. Your. My little boy. I'm killing somebody.

[Tim Pool]

I like the idea of stretching out.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. See what happens.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. It's like. Because like change the schedule. They have to be all at once.

[Tim Pool]

Doesn't that like. Because it's like when the first year or something like that, they're getting like 70 or something.

[Saka Masaquai]

It's more than back in the 80s.

[Tim Pool]

Stretch it out. They don't need all of the, the vaccination.

[Libby Emmons]

All at once.

[Tim Pool]

All at once.

[Saka Masaquai]

You know, I saw a video of this. This. I want to say he looked like he was maybe four or five. The mom sitting there holding him and rubbing his head while the. These different nurses are coming in with different needles in his leg. And I'm just like, like rough. It just can't be that bad to exist As a normal human on this planet in the richest country in the world, it can't be. To sit there and what looked like to me torture on a child, even if it helps them to sit there and pump them full of synthetic unnatural substances over and over and over, cannot be good. And this usually comes. And it was pushed on. That's what Covid really got me. It was pushed on us by the side. That always pushes nature. That always pushes saving the planet.

[Tim Pool]

They're done with that. It is now the right. The hippies have moved to the hippies.

[Saka Masaquai]

Crazy.

[Tim Pool]

They realize that the left is not their friend. The earthy crunchies are now right wing. Earthy crunchies. There are more earthy crunchies that voted for Donald Trump than there are earthy crunchies that voted for Molly. Absolutely.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, let's go.

[Ian Crossland]

Isn't it? We brought this up the other day about the World Trade Organization protest, 1999. The hippie dippy left were being like, no globalization. No. And then we're talking just 15, 16 years later, Donald Trump is like, no, globalization. And they're like, he's a Nazi.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. They're like, globalization, yeah. You're like, wait, what happened? Well, it's different. You don't understand.

[Libby Emmons]

Now we're gonna. I mean, now we're gonna vandalize Starbucks because we want globalization and. And massacres.

[Ian Crossland]

Now they're. Now, now all the Democrats are like, opening Starbucks because they're trying to expand global corporate influence.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, right.

[Ian Crossland]

I think, Libby, you probably know this. You've experienced this after, during the Bush years. All the liberals were screaming, bush is Hitler. No war. Obama gets elected. And they were like, ah, we're done. And then Obama was like, I'm gonna blow up kids. And they were like, but we're cool with that because Obama's doing it.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that was the. That was the amazing thing. That was the amazing thing because, yeah, I was out there. I was like, marching against the Iraq war in New York City with the Transit Union in 2003 and all this stuff. We hated George Bush. We went to Argentina for this theater conference. And everyone was like, how you're terrible. You voted for George Bush. And we were like, we didn't do it. It was all those other crazy people. We live in a democracy. That's what happens. And then, yeah, then everyone was just like, giving Obama this pass. And I was like, you guys, he wants to have more war in Afghanistan. Why are you chill with that? And they were like. They were like, no, he doesn't. He's just saying that guys, he doesn't like gay marriage. Don't you like gay marriage? You are New York theater kids. You love gay marriage. They're like, he's just saying that. And then of course, you know, more war in Afghanistan.

[Ian Crossland]

And then as soon as he gets elected goes, I'm gonna blow up kids.

[Libby Emmons]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

That's one of the things that I noticed, like my left leaning friends, I did a podcast with a buddy of mine that that's left leaning. And it was before Trump was, was elected the first time. And, and, and he was like, oh, well, you know, I'm a Hillary Clinton voter, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, you know, I'm going to vote for Trump. And he, he, he was like, you know, why won't you vote? What are the biggest things that make you not want to vote for Hillary Clinton? I was like, well, right now she's talking about a no fly zone over Syria and that the Russians are there now and they have an air base, so that puts us in direct conflict with Russians. Like, and she's talking about actually, you know, having combat and stuff against Russia. I think that's totally reckless. And that's the reason why, like, that's really the biggest thing that's. To me, Donald Trump's talking about no more wars, no foreign wars. She's talking about escalating existing conflicts. And I don't want to. And all he had to say was, oh, I don't think she'll do that. And it's like, well, you don't then.

[Saka Masaquai]

If, and not paying attention.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, he's, it's just like the left seems like they don't listen to what the politicians say about what they're going to do or they don't pay attention to the things they do. They only listen to like a narrative that's spun about them, not what they actually say.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, I think it's connected. I was actually watching, I was watching you guys on Pop Culture Crisis the other day and you mentioned it, but you didn't say the way that I'm going to say right now. It's, we've been living since the. Again, go. But 65 was such a turning point. We've been living in a, in a like liberal, social liberal country where even if you're, even if you're right, you look at some people who say they're right now, they're still less right than they were in the late 50s, early 60s, 60s. Because everywhere from the schools to music, to entertainment and to the media. So think about this I know. Like when I ran for office and I had the. I did that sketch for Babylon beat California's move to Texas. I was walking in neighborhoods. I knocked on one door, Armenian lady opened the door and she recognized her that started laughing, gave me a big hug, and all we did was talk about the sketch. Before I got home, she sent over $500. So. To my campaign. So it showed me when you build up enough emotional cachet and storytelling and in entertainment and you're on that side, that's what you're really fighting against. You're not just fighting against, go listen to Obama's words. You're fighting against the whole machine that has the feeling that they're not the bad guys. They're not the ones we need to worry about. Because he was dancing on stage with Ellen, you know, and so that's what we're really up against now. Not what the individual actually says or doesn't say.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

It's what side was he hanging out with? He can't be bad.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, with Obama, he was like, he was so smart when it came to his pol. To. To his. Not his policy, but his campaign. The hope and change thing was probably the smartest campaign slogan ever because he didn't have to tell anybody anything about what it meant. Everybody heard that and they turned it into whatever it was that they believe, believed. And. And all he had to say is hope and change. And people were like, I'm on board with that. And then they had an image in their mind. He didn't have to articulate anything. They did the work for him.

[Saka Masaquai]

Especially after coming off of George Bush starting wars. Right. And so. And once you were able to bring in Obama, then you had the white guilt playing a factor in there where it's like, it's a time now we can show ourselves we're not this racist country everyone says we are. Yeah. There were so many things that have been hit on so many levels that when he came along and did that, that then you look into the picture he used and you're like, wait a minute, that was like, that was a communist photo. Like, what are we talking about? When you look further in, it's. The marketing is so huge. That's why shows like this, what Daily Wire with Babylon be, what Prageru are doing. It has not only upset them so much, starting in about 2015, 2016, but like, it is so vitally important and we need to continue to build, continue to do more music and more scripted content so that we capture these 20 year olds yep. Who are looking around for. For, like, something to grab onto. They've grabbed onto Trump to grab onto. You know, Tim. And these different, different groups. We need to continue to build it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. If I, I didn't. I don't remember the exact number of the exact number, but the, the, the generation that has the highest approval rate of Trump is like Gen Z. Young people.

[Ian Crossland]

I think it was Gen X.

[Tim Pool]

Was it Gen X. Gen X is.

[Ian Crossland]

What got Trump elected.

[Saka Masaquai]

What's up? We finally did something right. Yeah. 45, man. 45 and free.

[Ian Crossland]

So you're just on the end, though.

[Saka Masaquai]

I know it still counts. Dude. What are you trying to. Don't take it away from me. I'm celebrating because, ah, you're just at the end of the door. You're the back of the line. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

What do they. They call that?

[Saka Masaquai]

There you go.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

And we finally did something instead of nihilistic music. You know what I mean?

[Libby Emmons]

I posted that on X after. I was like, gen X saves the world. Finally. I knew we could do it.

[Ian Crossland]

It was, you guys. The Pepsi generation.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. Dr. Pepsi. That's so stupid. I don't know what that.

[Saka Masaquai]

They called it the generation. Get a bunch of sugar water and dump it down your gullet.

[Ian Crossland]

Millennials don't drink soda. And Gen Z doesn't drink soda either.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't drink soda. There's no soda in my house.

[Tim Pool]

We drink Gen X.

[Ian Crossland]

We drink spin drifts.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. I was gonna say we do. I do get involved in a little bit of water.

[Ian Crossland]

Isn't that soda that you look at the ingredients.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, no, it's a soda water.

[Tim Pool]

The Gen extras definitely did the whole Thanos thing. Like, fine, we'll do it ourselves.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

We should have done it 10 years ago.

[Libby Emmons]

No, we're like, 10 years ago, we were high.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. We're shocked.

[Ian Crossland]

Right?

[Saka Masaquai]

What was it? We're in, like. What did it call it when you're actually like 10 years, you act 10 years younger than you're. The Peter Pan syndrome. Yeah, pretty much.

[Libby Emmons]

Like with the Gen X, like our, our, our parents generation, the boomers, they're so obsessed with being young that they never let us actually be grown up.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's true. Because then I would say they're old.

[Libby Emmons]

Us, the kids.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

My mom is like 75. I'm like, mom, I am almost 50. I'm not. I'm not a kid at this point.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm halfway there.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Saka Masaquai]

My wife's. My wife's mom said that when we were getting married kind of quickly, she was like, let the kids do what they want. And I'm like, I'm 43. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And I'm sick of that. I am like the kids thing, just this, this perpetual. You are a child from the older generations and it persists to this day and it is destructive to society. Dude, At a certain point a 70 year old needs to say, hey, you're an old man, Phil. Welcome to the clothes club.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. What I keep saying to my kid is you're, you're halfway to being a man. You're nearly a man. You have to take care of these things yourself.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

You be an adult.

[Saka Masaquai]

I think, I think part of it, you look at our government is because the, the people running our government didn't ever want to give up power. And so if they never want to move on. That's why I love JD Vance as Trump's pick. And we saw her pick Walt. She picked old. He picked the next generation.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and she kept talking about it being the next generation.

[Saka Masaquai]

I'm sorry. Yeah, which, which, no, which is something that I'm like that guy.

[Ian Crossland]

Guy.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, the balding old dude. That tuna tacos and the spirit fingers.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Gen Z, you're all adults and you're losers. Because you know, you know why I'm saying that? Because I'm sick of it being the other way around. Where when I was growing up, I was like, yo, legit, I'm, I'm 38, I'm going to be 39 in, in three weeks.

[Saka Masaquai]

There you go.

[Ian Crossland]

And I go to the poker tables and a lot of retirees like to sit and play poker. And these guys are 70 and they're like, let the kid do his thing. I'm like, I am 40 years old. I am an old man. I'm like, I Wish I was 40. And I'll be like, okay, yeah, I get it. But we're all old. Gen Z, if you are 24 years old, you are an adult and you are several years into being an adult. And it's about time to be an adult. I'm not saying that to disparage Gen Z. I'm saying it to be the stodgy old man being like, get off my lawn.

[Libby Emmons]

I heard a young fun to say that.

[Tim Pool]

I heard a young guy talking. I heard a young lady talking about. She was, it was on a tick tock and she said, she, she said, I'm just a 27 year old teenage.

[Libby Emmons]

Girl that's like, oh, yes.

[Tim Pool]

What on earth?

[Libby Emmons]

Trans age.

[Tim Pool]

No, well, I know, I 27.

[Ian Crossland]

You're like, listen, the Whole like, like.

[Tim Pool]

Dragging out childhood and refusing to be responsible. There's a meme about women and being responsible and accountable and stuff. And that just really kind of hit drew.

[Saka Masaquai]

27.

[Tim Pool]

27 year old teenage girl. Like, what?

[Ian Crossland]

But here's what's really crazy is that there are a lot of prominent female celebrities who are in their 30s who don't have kids and are never going to have them.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And it's wild to me because it's like, you can pretend to be a child all you want, you can claim you're still young. You know, hey, look, we live longer than ever these days, you know, 80, whatever. Trump's 80s president. 30 is not old. And it's like, like, ma'am, 35 is called geriatric pregnancy.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, yeah, okay. Y.

[Ian Crossland]

You are like, humans are adults at 18 years old. Yeah, you got a long time after that to do a lot of stuff, but you are an adult that needs to do adult things. And millennials are in their 30s going, I hate adulting. And it's like, bro, you're old. You're 30, you're old.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, you can't say that anymore. No, it's not called adulting. It's just like living, surviving life, living, getting by. Just go ahead and get by. Like.

[Ian Crossland]

But look, I genuinely think one of the issues is that boomers perpetually call anyone younger than them children. And I'm like, you guys gotta stop doing that, man. If you're a boomer out there, it's time to look a 26 year old gen Z kid in the face and say, you're old, you're a man. Shut up and get to work.

[Saka Masaquai]

Right. No, you're right. And part of the blame, I'll put the left just wants to keep us in this childish mindset. But if you look at someone, when I heard what, how old Taylor Swift was, I was like 85. And she's out there, like jumping around like, and, and moving like, she is like a 22 year old, like, girl. Still. Even some of her songs play like, hey, I'm still just a girl.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, she's never gonna have kids, is she?

[Saka Masaquai]

I don't know if. Well, she's 35.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, the liberals say, they're like, I see people will tweet stuff being like, wow, she's 35, she can have kids. They're like, that's so gross that you care. Leave her alone, blah, blah. And I'm like, like, this is what humans do.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's literally what the.

[Ian Crossland]

Also, I really don't care what you people think. What is it? I've seen what I. I. Hold on. What's the quote?

[Tim Pool]

I've seen what makes you cheer.

[Ian Crossland]

No, it's like your booze mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer.

[Saka Masaquai]

That's a great.

[Ian Crossland]

That was. That was Rick and Morty. Justin Roiland, man. And then they destroyed his career and ruined the show.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I am deeply disappointed.

[Saka Masaquai]

That show went really dark after, like, season three, though. I was like, what's going on, guys?

[Ian Crossland]

Your booze mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer. So these liberals are like, why are you asking about whether she can have a kid or not? That's so weird and creepy. And I'm like, I don't care.

[Saka Masaquai]

They're also.

[Ian Crossland]

You can think whatever you want. You're weirdos.

[Libby Emmons]

It's also just true. It doesn't matter if it's creepy.

[Saka Masaquai]

It's true. But to your point, there, too, there is a. The reason why I even see him push so much like abortion. These liberals. And starting from the boomers, there is no sense of legacy. So there's no sense of the next generation carrying on because they think we're living forever. Everyone's 40s, the new 30. 30 is the new 18 is like, you know, where's our sense of legacy? That's where, like, most countries are founded on.

[Ian Crossland]

I watched Austin Powers this weekend. What an amazingly hilarious show. A movie. Sorry, why did I say the first one? I mean, they're all really good. And I was just thinking to myself, because when Austin Powers thaws him, okay, I assume everybody knows the movie, but maybe there's some young people watching.

[Saka Masaquai]

Spoiler alert.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Came out in 1997. He's a British gentleman spy who freezes himself so that in case Dr. Evil ever unfreezes himself, they can bring him back. So in the future, they're like, how are you doing? And he's like, so long as we're living in a carefree society that does drugs experiments and has, you know, insane amounts of sex without an afterthought, I'm doing great. And they look around at him, and I'm just thinking to myself, the joke was that's what they were doing in the 70s. And I'm like, man, talk about whoever raised that generation and let that happen. Wow. I mean, that's crazy to me. But, you know, it's. They say it's the. It's the four seasons, it's the fourth turning, etc. You know, generation lasts. You know, wealth lasts three generations. I'm just thinking now about, for one thing, I will always give the boomer Star Trek the Next Generation. That was great.

[Saka Masaquai]

I love that show.

[Ian Crossland]

But every generation is more and more lax on the next until it all crumbles and falls apart.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that's like what happens with, with people who have more than one kid, right? Like I was talking to my brother about this the other day and I'm the oldest and everybody's half, so it's like we were all raised by different parents even when they were the same parents. But whatever. My dad was super strict with me. Like so strict I couldn't wear mini skirts. Like, you know, no makeup. Like just very strict. And then with my brother, he was a little crazier. And then our younger sisters, like they kind of just did whatever they wanted.

[Ian Crossland]

We gotta go to super chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button and share the show with everyone? You know, sharing is how podcasts get big. So if you ever wonder like, how is that show the biggest show ever? It's because people watch it and listen and they tell their friends like, yo, you ever listen to this show? So if you guys really like Tim cast irl, that would be greatly appreciated because if every single person who watched every night would share the URL and tell their family and friends, we would be the biggest podcast in the world overnight. Seriously. Also, we're gonna have the uncensored call in show coming up at 10pm that's gonna be for Rumble Premium users only. Over at rumble.com TimcastIRL you can go to Timcast premium.com, which will redirect you instantly to sign up to Rumble Premium promo code TIM10, 10 bucks off an annual membership. As we are sitting here, I'm getting text messages about some documentaries, feature length documentaries which will be for Rumble Premium users only. We have two up right now, infringed and game of [e-mail] Timpool if you're a premium user, you can watch those full length documentaries bang right there just for you you. But let's grab your super chats from for now. All right. Cal says y'all may be waiting till after some franchises open, but can casper at a Find Cast Brew Coffee map to their site that shows wholesalers and other small businesses who are selling Casper coffee. That is a good idea. I think the number is rather small. I will say Caspre is massively successful thanks to all of you. You've put Ian through college, so. So I'll just give you a Quick update. We order custom printed bags. The way it works is the bags get made, and there's a huge stack in a warehouse. When. Then we. Then we. We roast small batches of the blend. So they. I don't know the exact number of batches, but we try to make sure that they're. You know, we wanted to be fresh to order, so we have 5,350 bags ordered, thinking that should last us the year, right? Ian sells it all out in a month of Ian's graphene dream, his low acidity coffee blend. And we were like, that was supposed to last a year. So everyone's hitting us up, being like, we want more of this. And I'm like, it takes six weeks to make bags.

[Saka Masaquai]

Whoa. Really?

[Ian Crossland]

He sold so much of it, we did not expect. We printed another couple thousand, sold them all out. We printed another couple thousand. People are buying them faster than we can print the bags.

[Saka Masaquai]

What are you gonna do?

[Ian Crossland]

Ian?

[Saka Masaquai]

And.

[Ian Crossland]

And. And Ian sitting here all iced up with gold chains being like, sup? Not really. I'm kidding. But, you know, the joke is you're putting them through college. But, you know, it's. It's. It's Ian's signature blend. Of course, he gets a. He gets a royalty on all of this stuff too. I don't know if I supposed to say I don't think Ian cares. It's his likeness and everything. But our number one coffee used to be Appalachian Nights, and now Ian has just taken over. And so we're trying to come up with other ways to create low acidity coffee blends in the graphene. You know, branding. We had a couple ideas we have. We may be able to do a half calf. Lower acidity. You can't do decaf, but working on it.

[Saka Masaquai]

You call it low flation.

[Ian Crossland]

We. I joke that we should do Ian's graphene nightmare. And it's high acidity coffee burns your mouth when you're drinking. Who wants that?

[Saka Masaquai]

It gets you just going. You're like.

[Libby Emmons]

Then your stomach just ripples.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. You're like, all right.

[Ian Crossland]

Brown bear 992 says so West Virginia is Delaware 2.0. No, I actually think West Virginia is inverted. See, the issue is this law was passed several years ago. There's a new administration in town. Town and Republicans have recently taken over. Riley Moore is absolutely fantastic. He reps us to the federal government, though, so he's not at the state level anymore. And the people I know in government have been incredibly helpful in trying to assist with these issues. I am just there's a lot going on. If they. I felt like if the government here was sincere and that these laws should not be enforced as is, they wouldn't keep trying to enforce. Enforcement it. And let, Let, Let. Let me tell you guys, when we. When we get the state coming at us and pulling this bs, we have to go to our.

[Saka Masaquai]

Our.

[Ian Crossland]

Our tax attorneys, and we end up having to spend, like, 10 grand to negotiate and figure out what the problem is. Then they come to us and say, you got to pay high five figures now because we don't allow contracting in this state. And so I'm, I'm livid. And I'm like, you know what, man? They want to see a penny out of me. I'd rather give all of that money to my lawyer and just say, have fun. We're leaving. Leaving. Anyway, I do think West Virginia can improve. I'm hoping that's the case, but I ain't playing games. We've, for some time now, we've been looking at the best course of action in this capacity. We want to be close to D.C. for obvious reasons. Maryland is fairly bad for a state. Yeah, really bad. Especially on. It's a terrifying state to be a gun owner.

[Saka Masaquai]

Maryland. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Maryland is a terrifying state to be a gun owner. They ban random things for no reason, and you don't know what or why. If you want to know if your gun is illegal, you have to look up a list and go through all of the individual specific guns they ban.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Ian Crossland]

And then you're like, why is that one gun banned but this one not? There's no reason.

[Saka Masaquai]

Really?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. So, like, so they'll say something like, no, no, we're not that crazy. It is totally legal for you to have your weapon in your vehicle so long as the ammo is separated in different compartment. So if you're transporting a long gun or a handgun, just separate and then you drive this. They get pulled over and they go, oh, but that gun. No, that gun's a felony.

[Saka Masaquai]

It's one of those. One of those things, huh? They do that with the housing market over in California. When they want to start to regulate new houses. They'll not give people, like, certain permits or certain waivers going in if they want to do Airbnb. And they're like, oh, you got the standards. And he's like, oh, what do I need to do to go? We got to come out and see.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, well, there's.

[Ian Crossland]

There's. Pennsylvania is a potential.

[Saka Masaquai]

Really?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Pennsylvania is only 40 minutes away from us.

[Saka Masaquai]

Okay.

[Ian Crossland]

So we call it the tri state. Because there's a point where you literally can in one minute hit all three states.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

But if you go 40 minutes north, you're in Pennsylvania.

[Saka Masaquai]

Well, I mean, I know, I know the Trump administration is talking about, you know, getting Congress to pass the constitutional carry laws that. That these places can't reciprocity. Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. Then Maryland would open up.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. But then, like, these states are evil. They will still arrest you and say, yeah, then go to court and see if the Supreme Court sides with you. So after two years of being in federal or in state prison, and also.

[Tim Pool]

If you need to understand that, like, if you're not. If you're not in a stand your ground state, defending yourself with a gun, they will still charge you as if you committed a murder. So it's not just legal to have the gun. It has to be legal to defend your life. And stand your ground laws are important.

[Saka Masaquai]

California. So the rule is, if. So if my wife and I are in the house, the guy's like standing there. He broke in with a knife. If I shoot him, I'm in trouble. He has to be coming at me. But if she shot him, it's fine because she just. The threat to her life of her side. So I could be standing next to her and give her the gun. She'd be like, popping and everything's all right.

[Ian Crossland]

Here's what I'll say. Here's the last thing I'll say about West Virginia is that the question is, who? Like, where would you go? And is it worth it? Some people have told me, just work with the state to change the law. I will tell you what I expect the state to do. They're gonna have a meeting. They're gonna say, you know, this Tim Pool guy's got a big show and he's been taught. He's been spitting and yelling. He's upset about this law. And they're gonna say, that law generates $750 million a year. And they go, really? Yeah. By banning independent contract work and forcing people to be our. Our slaves in the state. We make a lot of money and they can't fight back. This Tim Pool guys just throwing our side. Let him leave. I likely. Why, when. When we get back on the phone with the state auditor, they're like, you owe us high five figures. And we were like, yo, this guy literally qualifies as a contractor under your law. I'm like, we don't care. So. So I'll break it down. For you, we've got. We've got talents that has no schedule, has no production instruction, can literally go wherever they want, whenever they want and do whatever they want. The contract is you're on retainer to. To produce promotional content to promote the.

[Libby Emmons]

Brand at your leisure.

[Ian Crossland]

At your leisure. And they said, that's an employee. And I said, no, it isn't. It doesn't do anything. We're contracting a. It's a sponsorship. They said, we don't care. You owe us back taxes on every single penny you paid them. Them. And I'm like, they're trying to get us to leave the state.

[Saka Masaquai]

Why not? Why not get some. Some of these business owners around here to kind of.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, everybody's pissed because a bunch of people have hit me up saying they've been fighting it for a long time, but they have no voice.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. So.

[Ian Crossland]

So I'm sure West Virginia's attitude is the sooner Tim Pool leaves, the better, because the average person of West Virginia has no means of fighting back against the state.

[Libby Emmons]

That's not reasonable. Because, I mean, this is a really beautiful state, and it's a downtrodden state. It's a poor state, and people need more opportunity here, not less.

[Ian Crossland]

You know how many high hotspot. Many casinos are on the street next to where we are?

[Libby Emmons]

There's a lot, right?

[Ian Crossland]

There's like 15 within two or three miles.

[Saka Masaquai]

Whoa.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. The state cares more about creating these addictions. It is nuts. I don't know how they operate.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

You drive down the street every. So all the strip clubs have turned into mini casinos where they run a bunch of slot machines.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah. Put it together. You know what I mean?

[Ian Crossland]

And people show up, up, and they've got booze, and. And it's slot machines everywhere. They call it limited video lottery. And I'm. And. And we're Dr. When we pull out here and we want to go drive to, like, the local pizza place or whatever. We drive past probably 15, and I'm sitting here being like, how are they all in business? And the creepy thing is many of these buildings are nondescript houses and old. Look. They look abandoned. And they'll just be like a sign saying Virginia Lottery. You open the door, it's. It's perfect and clean inside. No Windows 10 slot machines. And they're selling booze. This is what West Virginia's been doing. Hot spots, they call it.

[Saka Masaquai]

Wow.

[Libby Emmons]

It's terrible.

[Ian Crossland]

And, you know, this is why I look at the state, and I'm like, well, you gotta get in at the darkest you gotta get into the bottom, you gotta buy the dip, you gotta come in and you gotta invest and you gotta build it up. And it's impossible to run a media company. I mean, look, let's just put it simply. If I go to a plumber and I'm like, hey, can we get a contract so that you can come and regularly deal with septic and plumbing? No, because that would make me an employee. I'm like, what? So my company has to hire a full time plumber?

[Saka Masaquai]

That's weird.

[Libby Emmons]

That's not reasonable.

[Ian Crossland]

Yep, that's West Virginia.

[Tim Pool]

It's not reasonable at all.

[Ian Crossland]

Now it's selective enforcement. If because there's a lot of plumbers in the, in the state, they're going to be like, oh, well, a plumber is okay, but an IT guy isn't because we have an IT guy in retainer, which like will literally be like, hey, we need something developed and we want them on retainer because they work for a handful of clients, but they give us a certain amount of hours guaranteed. Nope, employee now. And I'm like, they don't even live in the state. They have no set schedule. They don't have to be anywhere. It's literally just we don't want, we want hours guaranteed because we need them. Doesn't matter.

[Saka Masaquai]

Employee man, I think you can get a lot of business owners to back you on this if you bat signal, basically.

[Ian Crossland]

But they all already do. They're all pissed off about it and the state doesn't care. Maybe the new administration may change it, but again, my attitude is, is once that administration sits down and they say we do $750 million off this law, they're going to be like, okay, screw it, let them leave. Because if, if one guy leaves and like the taxes are nowhere near that significant for what we operate and the PR is bad. So what? Once he leaves, he'll stop talking about it. One year from then we'll recover and we're gonna be doing a billion dollars and ripping off the, the workers in.

[Libby Emmons]

West Virginia with these slot machine things.

[Ian Crossland]

And no, just in enforcing you to be an employee again. Again, if you are an individual who works for three clients, the state has now mandated that you pick one of them. And if that company doesn't want you to be an employee because they only need you for three hours a week, they're not going to hire you. The state's basically like, we don't care. We get money from you.

[Libby Emmons]

Right? We don't care if you sickening. Employ yourself or not force the people to walk.

[Ian Crossland]

This is, this is the. You will live in the pot and eat the bugs. This, this law. And they're passing it everywhere.

[Libby Emmons]

I kid you not, it's a very bad law.

[Ian Crossland]

Your kids are going to be like, like, dad, I need money. Well, go work. Go, Go mow lawns. What do you mean mow lawns? Go, go mow your neighbors. Go. I, I used to go as a kid, knock on the doors, can we rake your leaves for, for five bucks? And they'd be like, sure. Sometimes you get lucky. An old man would be like, you did a Good job, here's 20. And we'd be like, and this, it would snow. Can we, can we shovel your walkway for money? And then sometimes you get a bad person. They're like, you didn't shovel it good enough. I ain't giving you nothing. You're like, oh, come on, man. That was learning how to do business. That's illegal in West Virginia.

[Saka Masaquai]

It weakens the individual. When you talk about learning to do business. The thing you brought up earlier, being able to go, why would I go to school when I can just go make money? Like, just what you described made sense to me. I never really had to do that.

[Ian Crossland]

By the time, by the time our kids are 20, it's going to be worse than this. This law is now, this law's passed. 20 years from now. It's going to be like, hey, dad, can I borrow 50 bucks to get a license to get a job? And you're going to be like, oh, you're filing your worker requirements. Permit it. Yeah, yeah, here's 50 bucks. Okay. And then I've got the workers test on Saturday. Can you drive me there? And then, so then I, I swear to God, I'm saying, well, that's already.

[Libby Emmons]

True for government jobs. You have to like, you know, I'm.

[Ian Crossland]

Saying that this 20 year old, 20 years from now, the kid's gonna have to get the employment permit and they're gonna have to take their employment permits test. You know, employment license test. It's like, well, you're 20, you can get your employment permit. Employment permit allows you to work only.

[Saka Masaquai]

At Walmart and Amazon or these four places.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, whatever. Yeah, for a minimum wage. And then once you get your employment license, you're allowed to get a salary at somewhere else.

[Tim Pool]

That's where we're going have to be repealed. They have to be fought against. Because again, like we were talking about earlier, like, you're ostensibly in a free country. You should be able to just say, hey, can I this work for you? Can I do this thing for you?

[Saka Masaquai]

And this is, this is when they say, oh, well, capitalism. No, this is crony capitalism.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's. This isn't even crony capitalism.

[Libby Emmons]

It's also because of the unions, right? Because the unions all want their dues and the unions can't get dues from people who are working for themselves.

[Saka Masaquai]

Sure, that's right.

[Libby Emmons]

So that was Biden. It's all like, that was California's big push. Like, all right, we got it.

[Ian Crossland]

We got to grab one more before we go to that uncensored show. Mr. Somber says, Tim, check around Pittsburgh Penns near the airport. We like Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's very fun.

[Saka Masaquai]

That airport. He's been an airport.

[Ian Crossland]

But no, but the issue is we want to be close enough to DC So if we were, you know, just an hour and a half north of D.C. in PA, it's possible, but that is a challenge. We want to be close enough to DC we were actually looking at studio stuff in Virginia, but Virginia is really bad because it's a deep state stronghold. Meaning, yeah, the laws may be better, but the government agents will come and just put the boot on our necks because they're evil. Deep state shills.

[Saka Masaquai]

Maryland, wait six months.

[Ian Crossland]

We didn't have issues with, with Maryland when we were there. They did not care. This never came up. Up West Virginia, you know, here's the problem I see with West Virginia because they are a poorer state, they got a magnifying glass on everyone to try and extract as much as they can from you. Whereas Maryland is like, we don't give a crap about some studio in western Maryland. We got Baltimore to worry about in the D.C. metro. All right, my friends, smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast. For those that are watching on Rumble, it will be a seamless transition with about a 30 second intermission. For those watching on anywhere else, you can go to rumble.com timcast IRL and become a premium member to watch the uncensored call in show where our Discord members are going to call in and talk to us and ask us questions. So once again, smash that like button. And Zach, I do want to shout anything out.

[Saka Masaquai]

Yeah, thank you again. Hey guys, I still have a $20,000 lawyer fee hanging over, so if anyone wants to help out with our J6 help my family and I out, please go to Defend. That's defend S I A K a dot com and thank you. Prayers go a long way as well.

[Libby Emmons]

God bless, Tim. I just wanted to. For my shout out here, I just want to give you something. This is from your good friend and mine, Jack Posobic.

[Saka Masaquai]

Oh, boy.

[Libby Emmons]

This is the Trump map.

[Tim Pool]

Actually made them. I saw that on the.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. That he designed. And you've got, you've got the Gulf of America on here. You've got. You've got Gitmo, you know. Oh, Gitmo, that's important. You've got a little green land with the flag over that way a little bit. Yeah, this way. Here you go.

[Ian Crossland]

There you go.

[Libby Emmons]

And the big beautiful border wall. So Jack just wanted me to make sure to give you that. And if any viewers at home want to get one, we gotta get it.

[Ian Crossland]

Framed and hang it up.

[Libby Emmons]

It's the trumpmap.com. so anyway, the Trump.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes. Put it right there.

[Saka Masaquai]

That dude's made so many people money.

[Libby Emmons]

Who, Jack?

[Saka Masaquai]

No, Trump.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah.

[Saka Masaquai]

Using his name.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, it's pretty cool.

[Saka Masaquai]

It is cool.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Right on.

[Libby Emmons]

And I'm Libby Emmons with the Post Millennial and Human Events dot com. I am Libby Emmons on X. And I'm finally saying X. And you can sign up for my newsletter, which comes out every day, which is the postmillennial dot com. Libby. Thanks.

[Tim Pool]

I am Phil. That remains on X where you can subscribe to my page. I'm filled. It remains official. On Instagram, the band is all that remains. The new record dropped on January 31. It is called Antifragile. Go check it out. You can check it out on YouTube, Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

[Ian Crossland]

We will see you all in the uncensored call in show rumble.com Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.