Trump Orders New Census, Demands Illegal Immigrants Excluded w/ Tony Ortiz

Summary

Timcast IRL Episode Summary: "Trump Orders New Census, Demands Illegal Immigrants Excluded w/ Tony Ortiz"

Release Date: August 8, 2025

In this episode of Timcast IRL, host Tim Pool delves deep into the controversial political maneuvers surrounding President Donald Trump's recent directive to exclude undocumented immigrants from the upcoming U.S. census. Joining him is Tony Ortiz, a seasoned publisher from Current Revolt, who provides insider insights into Texas politics and redistricting efforts.

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1. Introduction to the Census Controversy

The episode kicks off with Tate Brown highlighting Trump's bold move:

"Trump wants a new census and he's gonna get one. Maybe we'll get into it." (01:22)

President Trump's directive aims to recalibrate congressional seat allocations by omitting illegal immigrants from the census count, a significant deviation from the Constitutionally mandated decennial process that traditionally includes all U.S. residents regardless of immigration status.

2. Implications of the New Census

Libby Evans provides historical context and the potential fallout of Trump's proposal:

"The last time a citizenship question was included on the main U.S. census questionnaire sent to every household was in 1950." (09:32)

She argues for the necessity of counting only citizens to ensure accurate representation and resource allocation. However, Producer Sean counters by expressing skepticism about the actual participation of undocumented immigrants in the census:

"I don't think illegal immigrants ever took the census." (08:10)

This debate underscores the tension between ensuring accurate demographic data and safeguarding the inclusivity of the census process.

3. Texas Redistricting and Political Strategy

The conversation shifts to Texas' strategic maneuvers in response to potential redistricting:

"House members that have broken the quorum have to head back to Texas to get their checks. So it's a little bit of a standoff. A Texas standoff." (20:11)

Tony Ortiz elaborates on the Democratic strategy to flee Texas to block redistricting efforts, emphasizing the financial struggles of some Democratic representatives:

"A lot of these reps are very like, independently. So they're living off of this like 700, 600 stipend that they get every month." (20:30)

He also highlights how Democratic nonprofits are funding these departures, leading to legal scrutiny from Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton.

4. DC Police Commander and Crime Data Falsification

A significant portion of the discussion addresses corruption within the D.C. Metropolitan Police:

"The D.C. police commander was falsifying violent crime data." (25:30)

Libby Evans reveals that Commander Michael Pulliam manipulated crime statistics to downplay violent incidents, thereby presenting a misleading picture of safety in the District:

"Instead of taking a report for a shooting or a stabbing... they will order that officer to take a report for a theft or an injured person to the hospital." (31:00)

This manipulation not only skews public perception but also impacts policy decisions and federal support.

5. Steve Bannon's Potential Presidential Run

The episode takes a speculative turn as Tate Brown introduces the possibility of Steve Bannon running for president:

"Steve Bannon secretly plotting a sensational run for president in 2028." (30:30)

While Tony Ortiz expresses skepticism about Bannon's viability:

"I'm a hard no on Steve. Look at me, look at the physiognomy. It's horrible, man." (49:27)

Libby Evans concurs, doubting Bannon's ability to garner widespread support despite his influence within the MAGA movement.

6. Broader Discussions on Immigration and Policy

The hosts engage in a passionate dialogue about the broader implications of Trump's census plan and immigration policies. Producer Sean emphasizes the importance of accurate data for redistricting and resource allocation, while Libby Evans advocates for prioritizing citizen counts to ensure fair political representation.

Additionally, the conversation touches on the inefficacies of current government operations, the impact of politicized census data on congressional apportionment, and the ethical considerations of excluding undocumented immigrants from national counts.

7. Conclusion and Future Outlook

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the potential outcomes of Trump's census directive and the ongoing political battles in states like Texas and Washington, D.C. They also speculate on the future trajectory of the Democratic Party and its ability to adapt to changing political landscapes.

Tate Brown concludes with a nod to upcoming content:

"We've got some more stories coming. But the last big, big one we got is Steve Bannon secretly running for president." (24:02)

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This episode of Timcast IRL offers a comprehensive exploration of the intersection between census data manipulation, redistricting battles, and rising political figures like Steve Bannon. Through engaging discussions and expert insights, listeners gain a nuanced understanding of the strategies shaping America's political future.

For those interested in the intricate details of this episode, the full transcript is available for further reference.

Transcript

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[Tate Brown]

Good evening, everybody. Producer Tate here, Tate Brown, holding it down. Our fearless leader, Tim Pool is down for the count. His throat is gone, and we need him locked in for the culture war live this weekend. So I'm here, I'm holding it down, and I see you. I see what you're doing. You're hovering your finger on the X button. That's not right. You got to give me a chance. You got to let me cook a little bit. You got to let me operate.

[Producer Sean]

So.

[Tate Brown]

So at least give us, like, 10 minutes, and then if you don't like it, then you can do whatever you're gonna do anyway. But we got some massive stories tonight, so you're gonna want to stick around the first one. Get your calculator, get your abacus. It's census time. Trump wants a new census and he's gonna get one. Maybe we'll get into it. Redistricting's obviously been in the news recently, and it's heating up. Trump wants to go and he's demanding that we get a new census. We gotta count because there's a lot of illegals in the country. There's a lot of states that were overcounted and a lot of states that were undercounted. We got to get it right, so we're going to get into that. We also have the Texas redistricting situation heating up. We just had a memo sent out to house reps that members that have broken the quorum have to head back to Texas to get their checks. So it's a little bit of a standoff. A Texas standoff. The Dems in flight aren't too bright. Deep in the heart of Texas. I came up with that about 30 seconds ago. Tough crowd. Anyway, also, DC is a total disaster zone. Nothing's new there. We all know this. It's a blue city. Da da da da da da. But we got an interesting story. The D.C. police commander was falsifying violent crime data. So if you thought the violent crime data was bad, it's actually way worse. He was, as we say in the Zoomer world, capping. And finally, in addition, we got some more stories coming. But the last big, big one we got is Steve Bannon secretly running for president. We're gonna have to find out. There's a lot going on. There's a lot of knife fights. But before we get to that, we got some big advertisements, huge advertisements. They're all in house. We got the uncancellable board. This was the logo for the independent skate brand. Not much of a skater, but I've had to really, you know, get into this culture since I've been here, and I've learned about this. And this is actually a really shocking story, is it was an apolitical skating brand. They had this logo 50, you know, 50, 60 years, something like this. And then all of a sudden, last 10 years, people throw a fit. They say, oh, it's a far right symbol. Da da da da. And Tim took it over. He's taken it back. It's uncanceled, and the board is called uncancelable. So a beautiful thing. So go to. What is it? Shop bun HQ.com, get you a board, get in there and grab you one. And coming up on Saturday, we got the Culture War podcast live. Get your tickets. I think preferred seating is sold out, but we still have general admissions tickets. This one is going to be a juicy one. It's a debate all about feminism. We got Cat Timf there. We got Kyla Turner, who's great. If you don't know her, she's great. She's a lot on the left side, all right? But you got to give her a chance. She's actually pretty good. And we got Myron Gaines, if you know Myron Gaines is, you know, he's very pro feminism. So he's going to obviously be arguing in favor of feminism, clearly. So just kidding. Obviously, he's not. That'll be interesting. But get there. It's going to be fun to me. A lot of yelling, probably a lot of heckling. It's going to be a beautiful thing. Make sure you get your tickets. Finally, timcast.com become a member. Join the conversation. Join the fight. We got exclusive member content with the call in show. We have a rumble live show, the rumble after show, which is uncensored. You can let anything fly. It gets wacky and wild. Get in there. Get in that show. Give us a call. You could do it today if you wanted or tonight, I think. I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Not entirely sure. So if that doesn't work, don't quote me on that. But to discuss that and everything else, we got Tony Ortiz.

[Tony Ortiz]

So happy to be here. Thanks for having me. I'm excited that you're hosting.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, you, you're here for the first, so it could be the last. I don't know. I think you're a good omen.

[Tony Ortiz]

I think it's the third time I've been here, actually.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, there we go.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

So it's first time with you though, right?

[Tate Brown]

Okay.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah. We were chatting earlier in the week about Texas stuff.

[Tate Brown]

We were. We were, yeah. If you were catching the morning live shows, you would have seen Tony on there cooking. But yeah, who are you?

[Tony Ortiz]

What you do? Yeah, Tony Ortiz. I'm a publisher for Current Revolt. We are kind of like a national enquirer for Texas news, Texas political news, and publish a lot of really great breaking stories and kind of insider stuff going on at the Capitol. Been doing it for about five years. And you can follow us on Twitter at Current revolt or current revolt.com Cool.

[Tate Brown]

Love it. We also got producer Sean.

[Producer Sean]

Producer Sean in the house, guys. Thanks for having me. If you're still here after seeing Tate's face, thank you very much.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, thank you.

[Producer Sean]

I'm on Hashtag givetate a chance.

[Tate Brown]

Really? That's a beautiful thing. You know, I've been pushing that since high school.

[Producer Sean]

I know. And no one's listening. It's okay. But yes, thank you. Thank you for being here. Typically, I'm doing the clips for the show, so tonight no clips. Sorry about that. But follow us. Tim Cast news.

[Tate Brown]

It's true. Carter in the cut.

[Carter Banks]

What's up? Carter Banks here. Tim Cast, music producer and audio engineer and Trash House Records. Tate, this is your first. Is this first tape cast?

[Tate Brown]

This is the first Tate Cast.

[Carter Banks]

Wow. To be part of it. And welcome, Tony.

[Tony Ortiz]

Thanks for having me.

[Carter Banks]

Also from Texas.

[Tate Brown]

It's beautiful.

[Producer Sean]

Really?

[Tony Ortiz]

What part?

[Carter Banks]

Dallas.

[Tony Ortiz]

Oh, same.

[Carter Banks]

Oh, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Wow.

[Carter Banks]

Cool, man.

[Tony Ortiz]

Small world.

[Tate Brown]

Like neighbors.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Carter Banks]

So we got Libby hanging out.

[Tate Brown]

Legendary Libby.

[Libby Evans]

I'm Libby Evans. I'm filling in for Phil, which is always exciting for me. So this is great on team. Give Tate a chance as well. I'm with the Post, Millennial and Human Events. And let's get into it.

[Tate Brown]

Let's do it. Well, let's get to this first story from the New York Times. Trump demands census excluding undocumented immigrants amid redistricting fight. President Trump said Thursday that he had ordered the Commerce Department to begin work on a new census that excludes undocumented immigrants. As he and his allies press Republican led states to redraw their congressional maps to benefit the party. A new census would be a significant departure from a process stipulated by the Constitution to occur every 10 years. Historically, the census has counted all U.S. residents regardless of their immigration status, a process that helps determine both the allotment of congressional seats and billions of dollars in federal money sent to states. Quote, people who are in our country illegally in all caps will not be counted in the census, quote, end quote. Mr. Trump wrote in a post on social media, guys, do you think we're going to get redistricting?

[Libby Evans]

You mean mid decade redistricting?

[Tate Brown]

Do you think this is going to work out how we think it is?

[Libby Evans]

Well, it's all, all the states have their own rules about it, right. As we're seeing with Texas, that can call a special session and try and get down to it. California and New York both have independent commissions that are responsible to do redistricting, and they're supposed to do it in accordance with the census, which is every 10 years. Gavin Newsom has threatened to try and undertake redistricting with a ballot measure. Kathy Hochul has something similar. You also had Maura Healey in Massachusetts threatening to do redistricting to further marginalize the entirely marginalized conservative voices in Massachusetts, because of all nine congressmen from Massachusetts, not a single one is a Republican. There are no Republican districts. There's pretty much no Republican districts, I think, except a couple in Maine, maybe in the entirety of New England. I like this idea of getting a census that counts Americans. I'd like to know how many of us there are. I think that would be really great and it would be cool to see what the breakdown is. You know, I imagine it would be, you know, mostly white and black and probably a little Hispanic as well. In terms of, like, what the, what the majority citizenry is.

[Producer Sean]

Well, I got, I got an.

[Libby Evans]

It would be pretty interesting to hear.

[Producer Sean]

I got an Opposite take on this. I don't think illegals were ever filling out the census to begin with. I. You know, I think, like, I agree. I do want to see the census. I want to see the census more from the fact of what the actual Covid numbers were, because, like, some people are saying, you know, millions of numbers. Oh, and some people, you know, people on the left are saying more people are dying from COVID People are right saying less people are dying for Covid. So I'm more interested in that. But I don't think illegal immigrants ever took the census.

[Libby Evans]

Well, no, there was a huge push in 2020, and I think under Obama for immigrants. Illegal immigrants to fill out the census.

[Tony Ortiz]

Right. They were even.

[Libby Evans]

It was a huge deal. Yeah, they were.

[Tony Ortiz]

They were actively asking immigrants and Hispanics to fill this thing out.

[Libby Evans]

And it specifically didn't have the citizenship question.

[Tony Ortiz]

I made a big deal about.

[Producer Sean]

Understood. But you have to understand, these people are here legally. They don't trust police at all. You know what I mean? Like, do. I mean, I understand what you're saying. I'm Barack Obama. Oh, I'm cool. I play basketball or whatever. Just because, you know, like, they're not going to trust him. You know what I mean?

[Libby Evans]

Like, the form down, and then you just send it in.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, they came door to door.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, it was about the. Yeah, they were going door to door.

[Producer Sean]

Just don't answer your door.

[Libby Evans]

But that's not. I mean, I'm sure some illegal immigrants did not take the census, but I bet a bunch of them did.

[Producer Sean]

It's gonna be interesting to find, you.

[Libby Evans]

Know, and in terms of Texas, I'm super interested about redistricting, what that would look like, because didn't Texas get, like, 1.3 million more people or something since 2020?

[Tony Ortiz]

And, you know, it's. It's gonna be a big deal. We're supposed to pick up. I think it's like, five more seats.

[Libby Evans]

Well, that's the idea. Do you think it's gonna work, or do you think it's gonna backfire?

[Tony Ortiz]

You mean the redistricting? Yeah, they're gonna get it.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

This is all posturing by the Democrats. Like, they. They've done this before where they've left the state twice. They fled. Right. In 2000, I think it was like, 2002. They fled for redistricting then, and we still got it passed. And then in 2000, I think it was 20 Republicans P. Or passing laws to. For strict voter restriction laws and. And voter identification laws, and they left claiming that was racist of Course, and we got that passed and now they're doing it again and we're going to get it passed. They' it as a fundraiser and of course Republicans are too, but Democrats are using this as a fundraiser way to show that they're fighting because this is a very big deal.

[Producer Sean]

How much you trust the data. Maybe, Tate, you can answer. I don't know how much you actually trust the census.

[Tate Brown]

It's difficult to trust the census data. We actually have it here. This was from Aidan Buzzetti. He was commentating on this today. The 2020 Census significantly overcounted blue states and undercounted red states. Rhode island and Minnesota both kept a seat they shouldn't have or they should have lost. Colorado got a new seat they shouldn't have at all. Florida lost out on two seats, Texas on one. You can see here. I mean, among overcounts they're saying Hawaii, Utah, Minnesota, Ohio, Delaware, New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts. Obviously Ohio and Utah are the only red states there. And as far as undercounts go, we had Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, Florida and Illinois. Illinois being the only blue state. So if you look at overcounts and undercounts, this obviously favored Democrats quite heavily.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, I think it, I think it often favors Democratic states heavily, you know, and I think Democratic states are also the ones where you have the most illegal immigrants. Right. California, New York, Illinois. You can throw in Texas and Florida for like the odd ones out.

[Producer Sean]

But yeah, I mean, I just don't even trust the government to run the government. I mean, they're always running out of money.

[Libby Evans]

Sure. I mean, you're going to be black pilling. That's the kind of thing you're doing.

[Producer Sean]

I'm just saying, like I don't trust them to do anything like construction running companies, like literally anything.

[Libby Evans]

They don't, they're not supposed to run any company.

[Producer Sean]

So like, I guess maybe Libby, since you're the sm, how does the census data actually work? Is it like the old school rating system where it's like they sample like a small sample and expound it or.

[Libby Evans]

No, it's literally they try and count every single person with a form. So they go, like Carter was saying, they go door to door, they go to every house, not home, they'll come back. Right. And also if you don't fill out your census by mail, they'll come find you and they try and count every single person. One thing that's been really interesting about the census is how they keep changing the questions. Right. So citizenship used to be on the census and now it's not. I think that's right, Tony. And then you also have a situation where they used to ask race differently. Right. Like, I don't remember what those questions were, but I know race used to be asked in different forms.

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[Tony Ortiz]

Certain ethnicity?

[Libby Evans]

Race Ethnicity. Yeah. And so now it's like, I think you can fill out Asian American Pacific Islander, which I don't know how all of those things are the same. That seems very weird.

[Tate Brown]

Well, they do it now where it's these broad categories and you can identify yourself with the sub. So like you could do Asian Pacific Islander, but then you can say I'm Laotian. But a lot of people don't bother with the second part. And so it ends up they also.

[Libby Evans]

They don't have like, I remember filling out the census in 2020 and there was white and non Hispanic.

[Tate Brown]

White, right? Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah. When I buy a firearm in Texas, I have to fill out a form each time and it like, I have no choice but to fill out white. And I was joking with the guy.

[Libby Evans]

You have to fill out your race to buy a firearm.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

You do a background check. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. Democrats think you can just walk in and just grab a firearm. It's not. Not that easy.

[Libby Evans]

But plus, like, why does the government need to know the race of the people buying weapons?

[Tony Ortiz]

I assume it's for like, like when you commit. If you commit a crime.

[Producer Sean]

Right.

[Tony Ortiz]

And that's what I was talking about with the guy at the shop. I was like, so I'm Filling this out. And I have to fill out white in this portion. In this portion just says white. And I said, so if I were to commit a crime with this, would it be labeled as a white crime? And he's like, yeah. And I'm very clearly brown.

[Producer Sean]

Right.

[Tony Ortiz]

And it was just very odd.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. They even, like, if you're, like, Egyptian, you identify white. Like, most Arab and Middle East North African also identify as, like.

[Libby Evans]

A lot of Cubans identify as white also.

[Tate Brown]

Well, that's the whole idea of Hispanic as a categorization is just totally redundant because it's like, Lionel Messi is 100% Italian, but he classifies as Latino. If his parents moved or if his grandparents moved to New Jersey, he was white.

[Libby Evans]

So that's funny thing. They should have Spaniards come here. It's like, no, now you're Mexican.

[Producer Sean]

They should have did Latino or Latinx. And then we'd see which one they. You know what I mean? Which one actually, people prefer. And I don't think it's Latinx. I mean, Tony knows. Yeah, Yeah.

[Libby Evans]

I don't think it's.

[Tony Ortiz]

You talk to most Hispanics, they don't buy.

[Producer Sean]

They don't even know what it is.

[Tony Ortiz]

They actually. It's funny, the left, like, created, like, colonization of the language.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

So you kind of like, flip that on them. It's like, oh, you're colonizing.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

The Spanish language.

[Libby Evans]

Oh, that's fascinating. It's like. It is appropriation. It is like.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Libby Evans]

It is colonialist to remake the language to get rid of the, you know, feminine or masculine.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah. It's all these white liberals pushing it every time. So crazy.

[Producer Sean]

Every time Latinx. So what do you think, Tate? What's the chat saying about the census? Do they trust the government?

[Tate Brown]

Well, I don't think it's. I mean, you think you have to trust the government in this situation. What are you gonna do, not have a census?

[Libby Evans]

I think we do need a census, and I think that there should be a citizenship question. And I think we need to know how many Americans there are. And then I think that House of Representative apportionment should be based on the number of citizens and not just the number of people.

[Tate Brown]

Right? Well, yeah, you had the. I mean, you had. In 2019, when Trump tried to do this the first time is the Supreme Court said, no, this is not a matter of law. We're not resolving a constitutional quagmire. This is politically motivated. This go around. Since, hypothetically, Trump has five years to get this done, he can. He can take his time. Here they can actually put together a really good case to circumvent any court intervention.

[Tony Ortiz]

Democrats don't want this. Right. There was this account refined populist on Twitter and they were saying that if, if they do this and they properly measure for the seats that Democrats. It can cost Democrats 42 seats. Right. And so this is brutal for them. If they, if they, if they lose this.

[Libby Evans]

The last time citizenship was on the census was 1950. Wow.

[Producer Sean]

How interesting. Yeah, I, I would. I. I guess it kind kind of calls BS a little bit on our technology because don't you think at this point we should be beyond the fact of somebody having to knock on a door? How do we not have mission the.

[Libby Evans]

Best way to do accounts?

[Carter Banks]

They already know the number that you're supposed to give them. They just want to see if you got it.

[Producer Sean]

Okay.

[Libby Evans]

Oh, that's like with the taxes. When you file your taxes and you get it wrong.

[Carter Banks]

Exactly.

[Tate Brown]

They're like.

[Libby Evans]

And they're like, we know how much you owe.

[Producer Sean]

But what about like the satellites orbiting earth that can literally just look right into homes? We don't have that tech. I thought we had that tech. Is that.

[Libby Evans]

I think that paper is a good way to do it. And I think all our voting should be on paper and properly tallied by counting papers.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, we saw how that happened with the 2020 election.

[Libby Evans]

No, they didn't. That was. Yeah, that was mail in balloting very easily.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, yeah, the mailing. But okay. It was still paper based, though.

[Libby Evans]

Well, Nancy Pelosi came out in like what, April or May of that year of 2020 and was like, we're gonna have to do all mail in ballots to protect us from COVID And I remember Nancy Mace. No, Nancy Pelosi. Did I say Nancy?

[Producer Sean]

It wasn't just. It was all of them.

[Libby Evans]

My ear is a mess.

[Carter Banks]

All the Democrats in person in 2020. That's more wild.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Libby Evans]

What?

[Carter Banks]

I still voted in person in 2020.

[Libby Evans]

I voted in person too. And there was like nobody there.

[Tate Brown]

Well, that was kind of like the Republicans shot themselves in the foot because. For a while, because they were like only voting person and only vote in election day. That's how we stick it to them.

[Tony Ortiz]

Oh, such a bad idea.

[Tate Brown]

They would just like knock out one election. The cost is like 10,000.

[Tony Ortiz]

The worst thing they push is that everybody should vote on election day. Like you should early vote. Yeah, absolutely.

[Producer Sean]

I would challenge you on that, Tate, a little bit and say, how do you know? How do you know that that was a bad strategy? Because are you of the opinion that maybe the counts are maybe messed with.

[Tate Brown]

Well, I mean, we had out of our control multiple underwhelming midterm results. And I mean, I guess you could attribute it to some nefarious.

[Libby Evans]

No, go ahead.

[Tony Ortiz]

Sorry. In Houston, they had an issue in Texas where they ran out of, like, ballots and some places shut down on voting days. So you actually had a lot of. A lot of Republicans that allegedly didn't get a chance to vote because they all stupidly waited until voting day. If you. You have, like, what, five week. Five days of something like.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

There's plenty of time to early vote. And I think even in Texas, a lot of offices will. Businesses will give the employees off to, like, go. Oh, yeah, they'll give you extra time. They don't have to just go on your lunch.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah. I think some places, it's even like a. It's like a holiday. Right.

[Tony Ortiz]

For some places.

[Producer Sean]

I kind of support Twitter polls. I think that's. I think. Listen, I think that you can't require government. No, that's just as good as the government. The government should be YouTube.

[Libby Evans]

All Americans to have a Twitter account. Unless you federalize Twitter. And that's a crap idea.

[Producer Sean]

Well, Elon took everyone's id, so he knows who's American, who isn't. So we can actually take those.

[Libby Evans]

That's only the limited number of people who are on Twitter. Twitter.

[Producer Sean]

I'm just saying, if Twitter. Trust Elon more in the government, if.

[Tate Brown]

Twitter with its hundreds of millions of users voting.

[Producer Sean]

I do.

[Tate Brown]

If they left it to only Americans with their hundreds of millions of, you know, accounts on X, there'd be like 10,000Americans on there. Let's be honest.

[Libby Evans]

I don't trust the government.

[Producer Sean]

That's what I mean. So, like, it'll be like a 5,000. Yes.

[Carter Banks]

I'd get all the people that went to Blue sky back on Twitter. Oh, had to get back on to vote.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And if X had. I mean, the America party would wash everyone out of the water. I mean, are you kidding me?

[Producer Sean]

It's a. I think Mackey was ahead of his time.

[Libby Evans]

Who, Doug Mackey?

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, I think he was ahead of his.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

I think there's going to be a text to vote soon.

[Tony Ortiz]

Is that what he's saying?

[Producer Sean]

Well, that was.

[Libby Evans]

I don't think there will be a text.

[Producer Sean]

I hope that. I think it's going to be. I think it's gonna be like American Idol and every other reality show. Eventually. It's going to.

[Libby Evans]

I certainly hope the federal government doesn't Become more of a reality show than it already is.

[Producer Sean]

Literally have a reality show president.

[Tate Brown]

Well, let's jump that.

[Libby Evans]

That's why I said more of.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I'm not as good as Tim as like breaking.

[Producer Sean]

Sorry. Sorry.

[Libby Evans]

I'd be louder.

[Producer Sean]

Yes, sir.

[Tate Brown]

All right, all right, the next story. We got a big story here. This of Texas Burrow, Dustin Burrow, the speaker, he just sent a memo out to House rep saying that quorum breaking members must pick up their pay in person via check. No direct deposit allowed. Guys, this is hilarious.

[Libby Evans]

That would bring me back to the state.

[Tony Ortiz]

Super funny. Well, to, to cover that. It's only like 700 bucks a month.

[Libby Evans]

Oh.

[Producer Sean]

So.

[Tony Ortiz]

And a lot of, A lot of these reps are very like, independently.

[Libby Evans]

Well, where do they get their money?

[Tony Ortiz]

Right. So, you know. Well, you know, there a lot of them are lawyers or real estate agents and things like that, but I was talking to one of my favorite staffers and she was like, well, actually a lot of these Democrats are like broke as heck, actually. So they live, they're living off of this like 700, 600 stipend that they get every month. And yeah, so you actually, you, you may see some come back, but you've also got a bigger issue where you've got a lot of these lefty non profits that are actively funding these Democrats fleeing our state, which has been a huge issue. The Beto Orix nonprofit, was it powered by the people, was actively soliciting Democrats to leave the state. And they were like, we'll fund you, we will give you money. We'll pay for your hot, your lodging, your travel. And now Attorney General Ken Paxson is pursuing that. And, and, and Governor Greg Abbott as like a bribery issue. Right. Because that is an issue if you're paying people to break quorum. Like you're, you're bribing them to do something and it becomes a federal issue where it's happening across state lines because they're fleeing to Illinois, New York and other states. And so like, this is a genuine problem for Democrats. And I don't think that they thought far enough ahead and the whole thing, they're going to pass this redistricting. And I just think that Democrats really, really planned this out very well.

[Libby Evans]

Do you think it's a good thing, this redistricting?

[Tony Ortiz]

Absolutely. For, and, and you know, you, you kind of look at the current maps. They're already kind of goofy and they're complaining about these new maps and they're, they're, of course, the, the, the. They're always Going with the racist thing. And the racist thing is so tried out, like, nobody cares.

[Libby Evans]

That's what Jasmine Crockett keeps going.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, of course. And of course she is. And then the bigger issue is that especially Hispanic men in Texas, the, the Browns, like, they're supporting Republicans now. Like, the, the Democrats are losing this voting bas, and I don't think they know how to cope with that. They're going to be left with just kind of like the blacks and the white liberals as, like Hispanics start to trend more to vote Republican. And Democrats are just bored with, or I'm sorry, Hispanics are just bored with the, the rhetoric from Democrats and the weird stuff with the, the LGBTQ nonsense.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, I mean, I agree with them docking their pay. They shouldn't be getting paid if they're not doing their job. I mean, it's a huge slap in the face to everyone that has, you know, work a job every day. And it's our money that they're stealing, essentially. So, yeah, definitely not paying them, I think makes sense. But like you say, it's not a lot of money to them and they're getting more money hiding out in Illinois from the governor and all the whatever else wherever they're hanging in the hotels and five star stuff and the five star treatment. So, like, I don't think it does much, but it's, you know, it's something to get them back. Arresting them, I don't like it either. Because they want to get arrested. You know, you're talking about.

[Libby Evans]

That would be, that would be a martyr.

[Producer Sean]

They want that. They're like, oh my God, I've gone viral. This is my 5 minutes minutes of fame or whatever. And it's like, no, like, so, like, what is the solution then?

[Libby Evans]

You get more Gavin Newsom, you get more JB Pritzker, you get more Maura Healey.

[Tony Ortiz]

The solution is removing them from their seat. It's like, okay, isn't that what can.

[Producer Sean]

I thought they needed 100 in Texas.

[Tate Brown]

Well, that's. We had this story from the Texas Tribune. Paxton asks Illinois courts and forced Texas arrest warrants against Democrats who left the state. Obviously, this kind of seems like a bit of a long shot to try and get Illinois to enforce this. I'm some, maybe some sort of federal mechanism that could be used. I don't know, but I don't know. I think this could backfire to some degree on Republicans because there'd be nothing greater than being prosecuted by Trump and be part of the resistance and that sort of thing.

[Producer Sean]

So, like, what. And they need 100 to do business. Right. Because we had Briscoe on the show.

[Tony Ortiz]

Well, if you vacate a C, I think it removes that quorum requirement. Okay, so, like, it's interesting. Yes, exactly. So I. I believe. So I could be wrong.

[Producer Sean]

And maybe Briscoe said. We had Briscoe on and he said you need 100 to do business. Business.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, you do. But I believe if they remove them from the sea. And again, I could be wrong. I believe it doesn't go to. It maybe doesn't count towards the. Yeah, somebody. Maybe somebody can. Patriot fact check.

[Libby Evans]

That's true in the House.

[Producer Sean]

Patriot check. Patriot check. I love it.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

So we'll see. But you're to. What you're saying, like, you're right. It's an absolute amazing fundraising opportunity. Like, you went. If you're a Democrat, I went to jail for you.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, yeah.

[Producer Sean]

Right.

[Tony Ortiz]

And like, they'll be in jail for like what, a week at most maybe, if even. If that even happens. Right, like, absolutely. So they want to be jailed and then they'll sit.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

And then they'll sue and they'll fundraise off that.

[Producer Sean]

So what is the solution then, Libby?

[Libby Evans]

What is the solution?

[Producer Sean]

The rest isn't going to work. And docking their pay isn't going to work. What do we do?

[Libby Evans]

I think docking their pay probably might work. I think that's going to. I think that will probably get people back.

[Producer Sean]

Really? I think so, yeah.

[Libby Evans]

I think also people have responsibilities at home. They can't just stay away forever.

[Producer Sean]

They're Democrats. They don't have a family.

[Tony Ortiz]

I think it was Senator Mays Middleton in Texas and actually brisk. Okay. In the House that introduced bills that if you are. If you have. I think it was seven or ten consecutive unexcused absences that you automatically vacate your seat.

[Producer Sean]

Can you imagine how many. How many is that again?

[Tony Ortiz]

It was like seven or 10.

[Producer Sean]

Like most jobs, it's two or three. Right. And you're out.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, there's. There's definitely been like over Covid and stuff, people refusing to come in. There was a. There was a city council person in Worcester, Massachusetts, who was like, I was discriminated against because I'm not binary. I can't come to work anymore. And somehow she still kept her position for a very long time.

[Producer Sean]

I have nothing but disdain for government workers. Like, we don't have to get into it on this show. Maybe in the after show. But I got big problems.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, yeah.

[Libby Evans]

Well, the people who actually are government servants, I think that's important servant.

[Producer Sean]

I wouldn't use that word.

[Libby Evans]

That's their office.

[Producer Sean]

I had to go to the post office recently. Someone that does nothing like, well, the.

[Libby Evans]

Government is there to serve us and we have to remember you want to.

[Tate Brown]

Be dehumanized, you go to the dm. Oh, oh my God.

[Producer Sean]

And even they're like example of like a good government employee because at least they have to during COVID you can.

[Carter Banks]

At least make an appointment. And they were like really strict about being on time.

[Producer Sean]

But yeah, other than at least they're there in the office. Most government employees aren't even in the office.

[Tony Ortiz]

I went to the post office recently and like nobody speaks English. There's like one person at the desk. There's 20 people in line. Everybody looks like they want to kill themselves. Oh yeah, it was horrible.

[Producer Sean]

It's, it has to be racially diverse by the government standards and local government. If you don't have a certain amount of percentage under the Democrats, you didn't.

[Tony Ortiz]

Get funded in post office.

[Libby Evans]

No, they got rid of that. Trump just got under.

[Producer Sean]

Under the Democrats. Yeah. Now it's gone. Thank you.

[Libby Evans]

Bring back tests of meritocracy to like.

[Producer Sean]

To pitch anything to any local government to get any, you know, work with them in any capacity. It's like you had to be like 40% women, you know, 30%. You had to show.

[Libby Evans]

It depends on the locality. Certainly depends on that and like if it's a contract or something.

[Producer Sean]

But even in Democrat cities and you know, regions, it's still that way.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah. In Dallas we had a thing where like you, you get access to earlier bids, like earlier to bids for government projects if you are a minority based.

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[Tony Ortiz]

Let's get you taken care of business. So I've met business owners that like, I knew this business owner that his, his wife was black and obviously female. And he, she worked for a tech, he owned a tech company. She knew nothing about technology, but he literally just put it in her. So they can be the female women owned black business.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, yeah, that's a huge thing. Like in New York too, with contracts for any city work you have to have to submit for like a, you know, an architectural, construction engineering project. You have to meet all of these quotas and a lot of, there's a lot of projects that are, you're, you can only submit for if you are a certified minority or women owned business.

[Producer Sean]

Same.

[Tony Ortiz]

You know what I'm curious about though? It's like Texas is now starting to trend. I think Hispanic, Hispanics are the majority in Texas. So like if you're a white, do you qualify now for minority benefits? That would be awesome. That would be funny.

[Libby Evans]

They cut Asians. They said Asians are not minorities for these purposes because the engineering, construction, Harvard engineering and architecture fields are already too full of Asians. So if you're Asian, you're not a minority.

[Tony Ortiz]

Weren't the schools labeling Asians as white?

[Libby Evans]

Yeah. Wasn't Harvard doing that?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, it's like if you live in Hawaii and it's like 15% white and then you're just getting discriminated against.

[Producer Sean]

Anytime I meet someone that's from Harvard, I'll be like, like, so you hate Asians. Like they really. Oh, the juice. No, the Asians are like way out. They like.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, they need to start screwing up some, a few of the math problems so they can like get back in the minority.

[Producer Sean]

Exactly, exactly. Like pretend like you're stupid.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah. What?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I don't know. So maybe two is fine. Yeah, exactly.

[Producer Sean]

Stop the woke stuff.

[Tate Brown]

That's on them. You can't. You learn this when you work retail is, you gotta be just right above average, but not like good at your job. You just gotta be like right in that sweet spot. They're learning the Hard way. You can't go too hard in the paint, Right?

[Producer Sean]

So now we know what kind of employee Tate is.

[Libby Evans]

So.

[Tate Brown]

Well, yeah, that might have been a mask off moment, but we got another story here from the post. Millennial D.C. police commander placed on leave over deliberately falsifying crime data. As attention has turned to Washington, D.C. and crime in the District in the wake of a former DOGE employee being attacked, it has been revealed that a commander with the Metropolitan Police Department was placed on paid administrative leave in mid May after being accused of falsifying crime data. Commander Michael Pulliam. Pilliam. Pulliam.

[Libby Evans]

I think it's Pulliam. But if you scroll down, look at what the. Look at what the police union head said about this guy.

[Producer Sean]

Wait, wait, Libby wrote it, so.

[Libby Evans]

No, I didn't. Hannah wrote it. There it is. When our members respond to the scene of a felony offense, where there is a victim. No, scroll back up.

[Tate Brown]

Where is that?

[Libby Evans]

Where there is a victim reporting that a felony occurred, inevitably there will be a lieutenant or a captain that will show up on that scene and direct those members to take a report for a lesser offense. So instead of taking a report for a shooting or a stabbing or a carjacking, they will order that officer to take a report for a theft or an injured person to the hospital or a felony assault, which is not the same type of classification. So what they're saying is when there's a crime, a captain will show up when the police are doing their job and be like, you know what? This wasn't a carjacking. This was just pushing somebody down.

[Tony Ortiz]

So what's the motivation for that?

[Libby Evans]

The motivation for that would be to have decreased in criminal status, and then.

[Producer Sean]

You get more money, then.

[Libby Evans]

Well, you. Then it doesn't look like your city's that bad.

[Tony Ortiz]

Oh, so now, like, oh, the Democrats are doing a job like Democrat cities, cooking the books.

[Libby Evans]

Cooking the books to make it look like the crime isn't as bad. And I was talking to. This is D.C. okay? This is D.C. and I was talking to post millennial staffers, Hannah Nightingale, who wrote this story, who used to live in D.C. and she was telling me that she's seen crazy stuff at the Navy Yard with just, like, gangs of teenagers going around harassing people and doing all kinds of crazy stuff, which DC Is, you know. Yeah, DC is a mess anyway, and it has very poor leadership, and that's why Trump is trying to federalize it. But I thought that was absolutely crazy that this is what officers would do. A captain, a lieutenant.

[Producer Sean]

Well, I mean, we've all known dirty cops. I mean, you know, I don't know any cops. Well, I know I've known a lot of police officers.

[Tate Brown]

This is like a different kind of dirty. Because usually dirty cop, it goes the other way. They beat the crap out of you.

[Producer Sean]

And then plant something on you.

[Tate Brown]

This is like, they're not.

[Libby Evans]

They get paid off by the mob or something.

[Producer Sean]

This is a little funny.

[Tate Brown]

This is a lack of beating. This is like, not enough beating the crap out of it.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah. When we were growing up in Chicago, they plant stuff on you so they can write you a ticket. Now they're like, we could use a.

[Tate Brown]

Little planning, actually, in this situation, I'm.

[Tony Ortiz]

Curious, like, is he getting paid to do this? Because why. Why would you put your job at risk? What is he getting in return for higher up. Yeah, somebody. He's getting something.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, for sure.

[Libby Evans]

It must be the culture of the metro.

[Tony Ortiz]

You're not just doing it because you like Democrats, but it's like, it must.

[Libby Evans]

Be the culture of the Metro pd.

[Producer Sean]

But it's like a school if you're the teachers in a school. Right. So the police officers are the teachers. You want, you know, want it to look like the kids are doing good for the school. So if they're all lying together, then.

[Tony Ortiz]

It'S like, oh, we're just giving the test.

[Libby Evans]

Right? Exactly.

[Producer Sean]

It's like it's the brotherhood working together. Be like, oh, this city's totally safe. Tourism should, you know, like, come to D.C. i come to D.C. maybe.

[Libby Evans]

And then big balls get better. Maybe you get better raises if it turns out that you. The crime hasn't been that bad.

[Producer Sean]

Exactly. And the mayor rewards your department better.

[Carter Banks]

Can sell your houses for more because the area is nice.

[Libby Evans]

I mean, it's not a state, but.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, that's what.

[Tony Ortiz]

Property values go up.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, right. Because, I mean, that's been the proposal. Obviously, this is older news now, but Trump going in and federalizing the District. And Scott Greer was on last night. We were talking about it, and he was like, well, you know, it's. It's not even if they want it. It's to help the D.C. residents. And like, I'm like, I don't even really care about the D.C. residents. I care about the 10,000 or so Patriots that are working in the city. They should be able to go to and fro from patriot institutions free of any trouble. Like, seeing big balls go down like that really hurt. But yeah, we got a good, we got a good, good point on this, on this article. As of Thursday, D.C. police statistics said that violent crime is down 26% from the same period in 2024, and all crime is down 7%. Again, as we say, that's cap. That's absolutely.

[Producer Sean]

Well, we were watching Fox News before the show, and they. They. They did a segment on races and violence, which is kind of wild to see on the Will Kane show. But it was like they're breaking down crimes by race over the. Like, the last six years or whatever. And it showed, like, in 2024, like, black crime actually went down and white crime went up in the. It was D.C. right. The. The stats that they were showing. So it's kind of. It was interesting. So, like, I don't know if that ties into what we're talking about here, but I thought, because I saw that graphic, I was like, oh, that's interesting. Interesting. So, like, it was like, white crime was low, low, low, low, low. And then 20, 24 jumps, and the black crime was high, high, high, high. And then 2024 drops.

[Tony Ortiz]

You think that's accurate?

[Producer Sean]

I don't know. Like, we're looking at this story right here.

[Tony Ortiz]

That would imply that.

[Producer Sean]

That.

[Tony Ortiz]

That the police are falsifying racial crime data.

[Libby Evans]

Well, I think that's possible, too.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're falsifying all of it.

[Libby Evans]

Is. 50% of DC carjacking arrests were of minors who were.

[Producer Sean]

Well, right.

[Libby Evans]

As young as 12 years old. That's a Milwaukee 6% of carjackings.

[Producer Sean]

Yep. Well, that's Milwaukee, too. So, like, in Milwaukee, they actually started this thing with the. I don't know if you guys heard of the Kia cars. Yeah, the Kia boys. You've heard of the Kia Boys. So for those in the audience that don't know, it's a bunch of teenagers that figured out how to jailbreak Kias by literally just removing the steering column and putting in a USB cord and turning it like a key. But they figured this out in Milwaukee, and now it's, like, traveled to different cities to the point where, like, you can't get a car insured. Kia car insured in Milwaukee. It was that bad. You can't get it insured at all.

[Tony Ortiz]

Like, just keep it. It was Hyundai. It was all the Korean manufacturers. I think they. They faced a big loss because of that.

[Producer Sean]

But. And one of the guys. I'm forgetting the guy's name is Mike. I Forget what the YouTuber's name was, but he went out and did. He interviewed the Kia boys, and they. They were all 17 and under, and they said, the reason we do it is because it's fun or whatever. And they're crazy. And also, they only get a misdemeanor.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah. And I think if they're under.

[Producer Sean]

Walk out of jail the same day.

[Tony Ortiz]

It gets sealed, like, they. Nobody. If they're paying for a job, you can't see it.

[Producer Sean]

So as long as they're 17 and under. So, like, you know, Tim talks about this, too. It's come up on the show a lot. But adults will train kids to do these crimes for them in order to, you know, like.

[Libby Evans]

Just like Oliver. Just like Fagan.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah. That's why you got to go after the parents with these people. So, like, these. These kids. These criminal kids. Like, oh, yeah. Harsher punishment is great. We need to go after the parents. The parents should be in jail.

[Libby Evans]

Do you think that parents should be prosecuted for their children's crimes?

[Producer Sean]

Yes.

[Libby Evans]

We saw that with Ethan Crumbley's parents in Michigan, the school shooter. Both his parents went to prison for that.

[Producer Sean]

100 parents in jail. Unless the parents have, like, taken the. The act of, like. What is it called when you separate the kid? What is that called?

[Libby Evans]

Emancipation.

[Producer Sean]

Emancipation. They're emancipated. Fine. If the kid's, like, a devil child. Damien, or whatever, fine. But, like, otherwise, parents, jail, like, immediately, like, get.

[Libby Evans]

What if you can't find any. Any link between. What if it was, like, parents and they've been doing a good job?

[Producer Sean]

Doesn't matter if you're responsible. It's just like, in the school, it's like, you hear this with the police. You hear it in schools. Oh, these kids are bad. Why are they bad? It's the parents. It's not society.

[Libby Evans]

There are also. I think there are also people who, like, do bad things, of course. And, like, no matter how good the parents is. Doesn't matter once they're under 18, like, and they. They'll kill their parents.

[Producer Sean]

Like, well, then, I mean, there's places you can put your kids if they're killing people. You know what I mean? Like, it's up to you to take, like, if they're.

[Carter Banks]

If they're also in jail, though, because after they. They would have already done it.

[Tate Brown]

So that's what saying.

[Producer Sean]

I'm saying. Yeah, like, you can put them in military.

[Carter Banks]

How do you solve that?

[Libby Evans]

Right?

[Producer Sean]

You can put them in military school. You can put them in rotc. You can. Like, there's. There's things you can do.

[Tony Ortiz]

They should remove the government benefits of parenting whose kids are, like, committing these crimes if they're exceptionally violent. Like, you don't Qualify for snap anymore or you get a deduction in that.

[Producer Sean]

Something like that. I love it. Punish.

[Tony Ortiz]

You're not going to put them in jail. You just hit them. Their. Their pocketbook.

[Producer Sean]

Yes. Punish them. Take even more of the Kool Aid or whatever the hell they're buying away from the EBT card or whatever. Whatever, you know.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, I mean, that's what Will Kane was suggesting earlier. We were watching Fox because it's like the thing that you can't dance around. Everyone wants to dance around is there is, unfortunately, there's a racial element to this. I mean, that's what you see over.

[Producer Sean]

I'm not even talking about the race. I'm just talking about, like, poor kids said Kool Aid. Well, okay, what are you gonna say? Only. Wait. Only one race drinks Kool Aid. I love Koolaid.

[Tate Brown]

I love Kool Aid too.

[Libby Evans]

Jim Jones was a white guy and he poisoned his whole.

[Tate Brown]

But it's bizarre. Like, me and a lot. We were in D.C. like, two weeks ago, and we were walking around and there was like, a group of, like, 30, 35 black teens just wandering around the city. And there'd be, like four or five cops just trailing them at all times. And, like, if there were a group of, like, 30 to 35 white kids running around DC, like, knocking stuff over and beating cars, It'd be like Jan6 start camps up. Yeah. Like, it'd be insane. And I mean, it's unfortunate, but, yeah, there absolutely is, like, a cultural element to these. To these stories as well. These beatings that they seem to only be tolerated in certain.

[Producer Sean]

Certain groups. I think. I think a lot of it is. It's just like the woke. The woke always put it on racial lines. Racial lines. Racial lines. But I don't think it's. I think part of it's racial lines, but I think the bigger part of it is economic lines.

[Tate Brown]

I think that's a very, very liberal argument.

[Producer Sean]

I'm a 90s Democrat.

[Tate Brown]

Well, if you look at. If you look at the statistics, the. The up. The highest tax bracket of black Americans is a higher crime rate than the lowest tax bracket.

[Producer Sean]

Fair. All I'm saying is, like, kids that are in really.

[Libby Evans]

I would say they only jailed. You were homeless.

[Producer Sean]

I was homeless twice when I was a kid. Like, we really grew up on the tough side of Chicago. You know, Know, like, Chicago. Yeah, same. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I was on the south side and then eventually on the north side, which was nice, but. Yeah, I mean, it's tough, like, when you don't have any Options, you don't have any opportunities. Like you really like the, like everyone always, you know, it's like, oh, abortions, abortions, abortions. What's like when these kids are in these like horrible situations, like they really don't have options and then they turn to like doing. Selling drugs and like stealing cars.

[Libby Evans]

Well, it is interesting because the only parents that have been prosecuted for their children's crimes have been white parents.

[Producer Sean]

Crazy.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

You do it in some high schools where it's like, if your kid's truant, you go to jail.

[Libby Evans]

Right. I've seen that before. That's like, what is that? Like the restorative justice.

[Producer Sean]

It works. Yeah, yeah, it works.

[Libby Evans]

If they almost got was to like.

[Unknown Speaker]

Make money from, you know, going after the parents and get, and get fees and get funds. That's what they do. If I've seen it like countless times in la, well, they won't go and arrest somebody that's clearly doing something illegal because they know that this guy can't pay for anything. They're not able to provide any fees. And then they just like, why would they even waste their time? They don't. They look at it as like, oh, this is paperwork that's going to go nowhere and it's going to chasing. Chasing tail for no reason.

[Producer Sean]

So I knew a lot of people, especially in Chicago, their winter plan was literally committing a crime because they got to go to jail and get three. Three, what do they call it?

[Unknown Speaker]

Like three hots in a cot.

[Producer Sean]

Three, yeah, three hots and a cot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Well, I mean, that's because there's been just this massive warping of what the purpose of prison is. Because I think most people right and left view prison as a form of rehabilitation or perhaps even a form of like removing them from the situation. But the point of prison is incapacitation. Like you're trying to incapacitate a criminal, criminal from committing a crime. Because unfortunately, criminal behavior is very easy to predict and like, the re offense rate is very high. The actual ability for prisons to rehabilitate is very minimal. Like I said, because criminal behaviors, criminals do repeat criminal behaviors. There's a certain disposition of someone that's a criminal. So trying to seek rehabilitation is kind of pointless. Yeah, Like I said, the view is to incapacitate the criminal before they harm more people.

[Carter Banks]

Remove from what? Public society or polite society almost.

[Producer Sean]

Right.

[Tate Brown]

And it's like I said earlier, it's like they have society. We have this like bizarre thing that happens in court where they'll plead insanity and that like reduces their, their sentence. And it's like, if you're insane, that's the best reason to go to jail is like, I'm so insane that I can't possibly function in society. It's like that's actually the best reason to remove someone. But instead, because we have this false view of prison that it's like a form of rehabilitation, we're just going to keep doing this dance around and around again where we can't actually clean ourselves.

[Libby Evans]

We've also gone way too far to the rehabilitation side and we have dispensed in a lot of cases with punishing criminals because we just look at how do we help the criminals instead of how do we prevent more victims of these criminals And a lot of the people who.

[Producer Sean]

Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

[Will]

Honestly, Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new family freedom offer.

[Libby Evans]

Offer.

[Producer Sean]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[Will]

Well, I'm departing from AT&T and embarking on a new journey with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house.

[Carter Banks]

Bon voyage.

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[Libby Evans]

Mobile who go to prison like they've been doing this stuff for a long time. There are multiple crimes, multiple, multiple victims and it doesn't make any sense to continue to try and like, you know, remember the three strikes and you're out thing? Wasn't that a Bill Clinton thing? It was like if you get convictions, then you're just in jail. There's no more hope for you.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Libby Evans]

And I think that at a certain point there probably is not a lot of hope for you. If you're not going to turn it around, nobody can turn it around for you.

[Producer Sean]

I'll, you know, I'll defend people that get caught in the system. Like they're, listen, I. It's everyone's choices and they make decisions but sometimes when you do get caught in the system, it is hard to get out because the expectations and the things they put these people through through is really hard. Like.

[Libby Evans]

Sure, but you don't need to keep violently.

[Producer Sean]

I understand. I, I'm not, I'm just saying it is hard to get out of the system sometimes when you're in it. I've seen it.

[Tate Brown]

But it's not hard to not kill people though.

[Producer Sean]

No, of course not. But my, I guess my point is it's more, it goes back to like, people bring up, oh, let's bring back the insane asylums. I don't like that either because it's our tax money going.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, but like nowadays it's easier not to fall into that. Like there's so many lefty non profits and organizations that are willing to reward people who do bad things. And, and, and like we reported on a story recently, there's this woman who's a DACA recipient and she's been charged with all sorts of drug offenses and all that. And she raised $60,000. No, she was going to get deported. She raised $60,000.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, that's great.

[Tony Ortiz]

Like there's plenty of organizations that reward bad behavior. So I think to your point, maybe back in the day it was harder to get out of the system. But now, like, you commit a crime, there's so many, so much opportunity for you to succeed or to change your life around.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, that's fair. It has definitely improved since, you know, the 90s. Absol.

[Tate Brown]

The insane people we have now are so much different than 90s too. Like the 90s, it's like you're going down the street and like there's a bomb. You could flip him a nickel. He'd do like a little dance for you, maybe clean your window. You go by now and there's a 50% chance he's gonna stab you.

[Libby Evans]

But also that's because in the 90s, the people who were gonna stab you were in mental hospitals.

[Tate Brown]

They're in mental hospitals. And it's like so this complete like breakdown where we feel so guilty about like, you know, incapacitating people. It's like, well, okay, it's either that or your cities look like they do now. There's. There's no in between. You're not just gonna like give a homeless person keys to an apartment and they're just gonna figure it out.

[Producer Sean]

What about this? I have an idea for the homeless people, you know. Ready? This might be a little spicy. The spicy take. Are you ready? When we get rid of the illegals, Right. We're going to need people working on the farms. Put the homeless people on the farms. And here's the kicker. Don't pay them well.

[Carter Banks]

It wouldn't do it.

[Tony Ortiz]

Provide them, like, shelter.

[Producer Sean]

This a spicy take. No, no, no. You give them food, you give them shelter, you give them a purpose, sleep, class. What are they. They're on the street.

[Tate Brown]

Streets.

[Libby Evans]

That doesn't mean you.

[Producer Sean]

It's not. No, no, no. When you go and do a job that you're proud of, it's not. You're not being a slave. You can pay them. Sure. It's that. That part's a joke. But. But that part's the joke. But obviously, like, they need jobs. Get them on the. Why are they not on the farm?

[Tony Ortiz]

Problem is, I think they don't want them. They don't want the jobs. Like, you. You meet a homeless person and you. You offer them, like, food, like, a lot. They just want cash.

[Unknown Speaker]

They want food down. That I've given them in my. I've given them food, like, a whole meal, and people will just take it and throw it on the ground.

[Tony Ortiz]

People don't want to be saved.

[Tate Brown]

If you speak to a lot of people that, like, operate or. Or work in homeless shelters, they'll say there's actually spare beds, but you have to get clean to sleep in this bed. And these guys you can actually speak to, a lot of them are still pretty lucid, and they're like, I'm not ready to get clean yet.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, they don't want work. Like, I see so many homeless in Dallas that they're, like, asking for money. But you drive across businesses and they're all hiring. They're looking for people to work, like, desperate for staff. And you'll see, like, grown adults that are on the corner asking for money.

[Carter Banks]

And it's like, one time I gave some guy, like, 10 bucks, and he asked for more, and I gave him five more. He's like, Can I have 20 bucks? I'm like, can you give me that 10?

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

I was in Dallas. I gave a homeless lady some cash, and then she's like, well, you got a 20 in there? Give me that, too. And I'm like, what the heck?

[Producer Sean]

I gave her.

[Tate Brown]

I gave her cash, and she pulled a square reader out and asked me. I was like, what?

[Producer Sean]

I. I will say there are some Christian organizations out there that do a good job with this. They work with, like, ex felons and people that are homeless. Down on their luck. They do give them jobs and a lot of their success stories it's like, once they got that job and that purpose back, like, it. It really motivated them. So. So it's like, I don't think all homeless people are, like, completely, like, gone. Like, I do think some of them.

[Tate Brown]

Can, but the average homeless person is on the street for, like, a day or two. It's the people you're seeing that are on the street. Fair, consistently.

[Producer Sean]

Fair, fair, fair.

[Tate Brown]

That means that there's one of two options as well.

[Libby Evans]

It's the whole skid row situation.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, they're good at hiding. They're either good at hiding or there's a reason why there's only a few of them on the street at the same time. And that means you've got a particular disposition to you.

[Unknown Speaker]

So it's like, skid want to live there. They love skid. It's la. I literally worked there for, like, years. Like, they love it. It's. The weather's beautiful. They get everything they want. Like, you're men Christianing, too. Like, I. I want them to, like, you know, take up the mantle of responsibility, but they're not going to, like.

[Producer Sean]

But there are some success stories. There are.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, those Christian organizations you talked about. But there's so many, not just Tony mentioned, there's so many of these organizations that the chances of, like, you, someone being down their luck for, like, longer than, like, two weeks is, like, extremely, extremely slim. And then most of the time, it's just because they want to go get fent for like a quarter on the.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, for sure. You know, the addicts and stuff. But even that you can always overcome.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, true.

[Producer Sean]

Put them on the farm.

[Libby Evans]

True.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, the equalized situation is already so bad. We really want a bunch of junkies making.

[Producer Sean]

I don't want you to clean them up, man. They're going to be in this lettuce.

[Tate Brown]

Going to get really good.

[Producer Sean]

It's going to. Yeah, exactly. They get the vitamin D, it starts oozing out of them. Yeah, it's like something's oozing out of them.

[Tate Brown]

All right, well, on that note, I think we should go to this next story here from. From the Daily Mail. Steve Bannon is secretly plotting a sensational run for president in 2028, and he's already knifing his likely rival quote, I created him. The campaign would divide the Make America Great Again movement Bannon helped build by setting up a herculean battle with J.D. vance, who is all but certain to launch his own 2028 candidacy, potentially with Donald Trump's blessing. Now, my opinion on this Is Bannon likely to run? I don't know. This is the first I've heard of it. I will say I don't think Trump's gonna directly endorse a candidate because I do think Trump likes the idea of a few guys going in and battling it out by saying, I' pro Trump. I'm the most liked. Like Trump. I think that's actually the likely outcome.

[Tony Ortiz]

I'm a hard no on Steve. Look at me, look at the physiognomy. It's horrible, man. Like, I like. I don't. I don't know, I just. I don't like him. What do you call Trump? Call him Sloppy Steve Bannon. I'm sure he's a great guy, all that, whatever. But the physiognomy is bad for me and doesn't have some like, weird Chinese connections. I don't know. I don't follow national stuff too long, too much. But yeah, I don't. I'm not a fan.

[Producer Sean]

I'll take the.

[Libby Evans]

I don't think. I don't think Steve Bannon can win over the entirety of the American populace enough to, to win the nomination or the presidency. I like Steve Bannon a lot, but I don't think that he can do that. And I'm not sure why he's doing this. I don't think he has any real intention of running. I don't think he has financial support to run. I think it must be some kind of threat. Get your stuff together or I'm gonna run for president.

[Carter Banks]

Maybe he'll launch a clothing brand where it's like three collared shirts and he sells it. Cause he's the only person I've seen do that. It's like he's reinventing triple collar shirt. Yeah, he's like reinventing, like, wasn't that like a high school hundreds garb with a double rough almost.

[Libby Evans]

He always wear the three.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, the homeless look. It's like dere look.

[Tony Ortiz]

Is there a photo of Steve Bannon in his suit?

[Tate Brown]

No, there can't be.

[Tony Ortiz]

Probably doesn't.

[Producer Sean]

I do like Bannon. I. I'm with you, Libby. I do like him. Do I support him running for president? No, like, again, his age, I think that'd be a problem. Also, like, he's really good in the adviser role. So. So, like, if J.D. vance does run, let's say it's Vance or Tulsi or whoever it is, right? He is really good in like the advisor role. He's been there, he's done that. He's good strategist Yeah, I think guys.

[Tate Brown]

Like Steve Bannon are optimal or they're optimal like bureaucrats. Like, you do need a good fleet of bureaucrats.

[Libby Evans]

I don't think he's really a beer.

[Tate Brown]

Or like a back room backstabber kind of guy.

[Libby Evans]

I think he's definitely a terrific advisor. He's absolutely brilliant. I mean, he's really smart. He knows everything.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, he's got a good face for radio.

[Tony Ortiz]

He looks good in a suit. Look at that.

[Producer Sean]

Behind the scenes, not everyone needs to be out front and center.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, it has to be said that it's really hard to believe or make the case that MAGA would exist as it exists now without Steve. Oh, it absolutely would 100% agree with.

[Producer Sean]

So, like, whoever it is, if it's Vance or whoever, like, I really think he'd be great in that advisor role, you know, but not everyone needs to be out in front and center.

[Tate Brown]

Well, it's. I mean, it's kind of tough. It's hard to tell right now if Bannon is in that inner Trump circle. I mean, some things would suggest that, but a lot of times it seems like he's completely shut out.

[Producer Sean]

Um, I think that changes, like, regularly, too. Like, Trump kind of reminds me a little bit of like, the popular kid in high school. It's like, yeah, you'll be friends with them a couple days, and the next week you don't talk to him. And then you hear from him again. You know what I mean? Like, it's hard to stay in, like, the Trump zone, you know, because he's got so much stuff going on.

[Tate Brown]

But it is interesting that Trump, like, they asked him the other day, do you view JD Vance as your successor? And he's like, could be, could be, possibly. So it's like.

[Libby Evans]

But he also mentioned Rubio, and I think that's smart, too.

[Producer Sean]

Tulsi, I still like.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, I know you love Tulsi. I think she's terrific. I think JD Vance probably gets the nod to run. I think he has a lot of support in the background from the MAGA faithful. I think he really has that. The one area that I think is a little weak for him is his very pro tech stance, which I think unnerves a lot of people. Like, when he was talking. We were just talking about farm workers. When he was talking about how to solve the farm worker crisis, he's saying, let's get in automation. Let's do like this. I don't know if I like it or not, but I think that his answers are in Many cases going to be to have a technical solution like robots.

[Producer Sean]

I don't need it.

[Carter Banks]

Ghost, you're homeless solving problem though.

[Producer Sean]

You put the. Okay, so like in the self driving cars to repair the machines. There are self driving semi trucks on the road right now. But the, the funny thing is they need a human in front of the wheel still like with their hands like this ready to grab the wheel.

[Libby Evans]

God, they have a human in front of them person.

[Producer Sean]

There you go, that guy on the mower while it's driving around doing all the Agriculture 3000.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

I'm telling you, they get in the sun, man.

[Libby Evans]

I think you're just stuff to be.

[Tate Brown]

No, but I, I do think I actually as someone that is like a pretty big like tech accelerationist, I, I like Vance a lot. I like that aspect of him. But that is very unpalatable to the populous MAGA base and he's going to have deformed form a slightly different coalition in 2028 if he wants to win the nomination.

[Producer Sean]

I think I, I love Vance. I do. I, you know the technology question, that, that's a really interesting one, Libby. I do support it because I do know the population's getting smaller and smaller and we still need a lot of food. So I'm not adverse to the machines doing mindless jobs like that. Especially if it's going to get a bunch of people who don't belong here out. You know what I mean?

[Libby Evans]

Sure, yeah. No, I mean and it depends on what the tools are. My point is that that's just one instance where Vance is going to lean into tech to do the jobs. And I think that he probably, given his background, I mean that's where he made his money. Right? For the most part is in tech.

[Producer Sean]

On that book.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, the book. But I mean he was, you know.

[Tate Brown]

He was a teal acolyte.

[Libby Evans]

He was a teal guy. And so I do think that. Well, I think J.D. vance's heart is probably in the good place, in the right place. I do think he has some leanings towards, toward a little bit of a slightly transhumanist agenda that he might want to read.

[Tony Ortiz]

You're seeing the robots already kind of take some jobs like in the restaurants. I don't know if you guys seen them. Like the, especially the Asian restaurants. The, the robot that brings by like the, the, the water or whatever.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, I've seen that.

[Tony Ortiz]

You see that? But I was cracking up. I was talking to somebody on the way here and I was like, man, I've lived long enough to have to to find out what the derogatory term is for like a robot anchor.

[Tate Brown]

You got wireless back, you got spark, freeze, cricket, clink. I'm saying with an L that has an L. Clink. There's a lot of great ones. There's a lot of good ones out there.

[Producer Sean]

I think, I think we have two options.

[Libby Evans]

I like Clanker, but I like it with a Boston accent. It's a clanker.

[Producer Sean]

We have two options. Either the machines do the mindless work, or we start paying people more Americans more. Which I'm fine with either. Like, I'm fine with paying them more. But the problem is, and we all know how businesses work, if you're paying your, you know, your floor level staff like 40, 50 bucks an hour, like we see at the fast food places in California, it's really hard to make money or you have to raise the prices for the consumer. So either we're okay spending a ton more or we have the robots. I think those are the two options. Maybe homeless.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean, like, the thing with.

[Libby Evans]

Tin can would be good too.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. The thing with, with Vance, if you really are hard on immigration, like, if you really do want net zero immigration, you need to deport, maybe even denaturalize a lot of people, is you're gonna have to embrace tech. Because the reality is the share of the Native American population is shrinking as a whole. There's nothing you can really do about that because everyone's chucking money at it. It's not. Not really making a dent. You look at Hungary, you look at South Korea, look at the.

[Libby Evans]

Those countries are all paying people to have children.

[Tate Brown]

And it's not working. It's not even making a day.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

So it's like if you're looking at the States and you're looking at like, when I say Native Americans, not like American Indians, but people that are from Maryland that shared that population is declining as a whole. The only way you're gonna keep the economy propped up with a declining population, you're gonna have to find technology, something technological, sec something. So I think that's why the Vance guys, I think they just see the writing on the wall.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I'd much rather lean towards tech and towards like, for instance, within farming, a lot of people, they say, oh, well, you can't pick certain berries without having an actual person go and pick them. It's like, well, we haven't invented a machine to do that yet.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Unknown Speaker]

Like before they were like, oh, it was really laborious to pick nuts from trees and then some the of someone Was like, well, why don't I just take my tractor and turn around and put a big old thing on and shake it and vibrate and all the nuts will fall down. And like, that revolutionized that industry and it got rid of a lot of people's jobs. But it, it's not, it's also not adding hundreds of thousands of people to your country every year, every other month. Like, it's an insane idea to say that we need to do that as opposed to like, advancing technology and advancing the things we already are doing. And it's like, you know, I'm not really a fan of the bots. I don't like the bots either. But, like, if they can do the job better and like, more reliably than, like, I know the home. They want the homeless people there too. That'd be fun.

[Producer Sean]

It's a good idea. I'm telling you. It's going.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, the calculus is you have a, you, you, you bring in technology, you just let it, you cut it all loose. You have a 10% chance of like a cyberpunk future. That's a possibility. Or the current course of action, which is flood the country with like, people from the third world. You're going to get Brazil. So it's like, I'll take the slight chance of Blade Runner over South Africa.

[Tony Ortiz]

The choice is between a clanker or an illegal.

[Producer Sean]

I'll take the clank or, or the.

[Tate Brown]

Third clanker ever, ever ask me for money.

[Producer Sean]

I'll say that the third option is still on the table. Pay them Americans more. And that actually came up in one of the culture war will happen events.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. If the population declines, there's going to be. Labor will have an advantage.

[Producer Sean]

Not necessarily because corporations are. They don't care about people, they don't care about you. They don't care about their employees. They care about their bottom line.

[Tate Brown]

But if labor has an advantage in the, in the, in the negotiating table, then labor will be.

[Producer Sean]

Well, now you sound like a socialist.

[Tate Brown]

Economics.

[Unknown Speaker]

Play the game. And they play like, with the rules they're actually supposed to play by. Like, you can't hire illegal immigrants. Like, that's a huge rule that gets completely flawed and completely. And I think we should be arresting these people. By the way, Donald, if you're watching, please arrest the people that hire illegal immigrants. They're causing like, half of the.

[Libby Evans]

They're working on that. They're doing it.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, they are.

[Libby Evans]

You know they are.

[Producer Sean]

And H1B.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's, that's the big issue. Like, and it's Going to take time for everything to two levels.

[Producer Sean]

H1B. I'm serious. I'm serious.

[Libby Evans]

They're working on it.

[Producer Sean]

Listen, H1B is corporate slavery.

[Libby Evans]

The workplace enforcement is including arresting the business owners for hiring the illegal immigrants. But do you guys think that we should have homeless people picking our crops or the.

[Producer Sean]

Frank, no. They're going to sit behind the machines while the machines do the work you interrupted. This is a. I'm telling you. Listen, there's already self driving trucks on the road now, but they need someone there so in case something happens to grab the wheel.

[Libby Evans]

So just like one homeless person per Franken Toaster.

[Producer Sean]

I'm telling you, they get. When they get purpose and they're like, oh my God, I'm doing something with my life. They're going to be like, I see the. I see the.

[Unknown Speaker]

I don't know, man.

[Carter Banks]

When we got that weebo car and like somehow we put you in the wrong seat and it stopped and it was like somebody.

[Producer Sean]

Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

[Will]

Honestly, Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T mobile with their new family freedom offer.

[Producer Sean]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[Will]

Well, I'm departing from AT&T and embarking on a new journey with T mobile. They paid off my family family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house.

[Carter Banks]

Bon voyage.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

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[Carter Banks]

T mobile phoned in to me and.

[Unknown Speaker]

Was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carter Banks]

I don't know what you're doing, but I'm gonna kick you out of the car. You can't do that. You can't touch the steering wheel. Yeah, we try to have you sit in the front.

[Tony Ortiz]

Well, the waymo.

[Unknown Speaker]

It sucks.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, we were. We were in. We were in Arizona.

[Producer Sean]

It's in the driver's seat, Carter.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, we were in Arizona. We called a waymo and my buddy Triman got in the driver's seat and the car just started freaking out.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

But it's like some Indian. Some Indian dude hops up on the line in the car and is like, you can't do that. I got an email that they were gonna ban me.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

Was he Indian or American Indian?

[Tony Ortiz]

That the call center guy?

[Producer Sean]

Yeah. Oh, he was Indian.

[Tate Brown]

I got.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, I got in the back of another thing. Matching home to pay Americans more to do.

[Tony Ortiz]

Have a homeless guy call me to yell at me about the way I.

[Tate Brown]

Got in the back of a way. Maybe I got in the back of a waymo. And he started telling me how his day was going and started ranting, and then he started crying. Apparently, his wife was leaving him.

[Producer Sean]

Could be levels, like, as they do better, they get better jobs.

[Libby Evans]

Did you see the waymos that crashed?

[Producer Sean]

No.

[Libby Evans]

They crashed. It was in Phoenix and they crashed into each other.

[Tate Brown]

They got female waymos now.

[Libby Evans]

Oh, my goodness gracious. They crashed into each other, each other, and they just sat there blocking traffic.

[Tony Ortiz]

Oh, I think I did see that.

[Libby Evans]

And they didn't know enough to go to the side of the road and exchange insurance.

[Producer Sean]

Tim brings us up all the time. You can, like, in traffic, you can trap a WH or a Tesla or anything that's auto driving by just cutting.

[Tony Ortiz]

Them off or put a.

[Carter Banks]

People that were controlling the way pop up and talk to each other and like, yo, what happened there?

[Tony Ortiz]

You know what, though? I prefer the who's over Uber. I'll say it like, I don't have to worry about the cost.

[Producer Sean]

I agree. And you know what? You don't have to.

[Tony Ortiz]

I don't have to talk to them if I don't want to. I don't have to tip.

[Producer Sean]

I like that.

[Carter Banks]

Talking to Uber drivers.

[Libby Evans]

I just miss caps.

[Tate Brown]

I love it.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, there's for taxi cats.

[Producer Sean]

It's like, I don't like talk.

[Carter Banks]

So many weird connections.

[Tate Brown]

It's like, do you want to listen to, like, a political consultant or do you want to listen to, like, an Albanian taxi driver? I'll take the Albanian taxi driver or Persian or any. Any accent that's a little off. It's like they're gonna. They're gonna lay the situation out flat for the whole thing.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, I'm wearing a Uber. I. I remember that.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

Tay wants to hear your life story.

[Tate Brown]

I do.

[Producer Sean]

You want to hear everything about your kids. Show them pictures.

[Tate Brown]

It's my job to get along with people. I get direct quote from Trump. Anyway, we got this next story. Disney, sorry, breaking from post. Millennial Disney, Lucasfilm settle. Gina Carano lawsuit. Signal Desire to work with the actress again.

[Tony Ortiz]

She won.

[Tate Brown]

She won.

[Libby Evans]

This is the end of wokeness, you guys. Gina Carano won. She's back. She now can get jobs. She can be unblacklisted from Hollywood. Lucasfilm and Disney have both said that they would like to work for her, work with her again. She's a terrific actress. She deserves all the greatest opportunities in the world. And I couldn't be more excited for her, you know, get a little piece of her career back. And I hope that she got a whole bunch of money from Lucasfilms and Disney too, because it's not right when someone takes away for your career just because you posted a meme during COVID And the other thing, too, about her post, she posted a meme saying basically that the Nazis were able to control people because they got their neighbors to snitch on everybody to snitch on each other. And that's a big meme deal. But Pedro Pascal did not get fired when in 2018, he compared the border situation in the US to the Holocaust and threw that at Trump. He didn't get fired for that. And you had Disney and Lucasfilm coming out being like, oh, this is absolutely abhorrent. Which he said is unbelievable. We can't have someone like this working for us. And they literally kept Pedro Pascal on.

[Producer Sean]

So there was a guy that.

[Libby Evans]

Welcome back, Gina Carano. I hope you get the best of everything.

[Producer Sean]

There's a guy that was literally masturbating after he got off that call with the media. What channel is it? Msnbc.

[Libby Evans]

What are you even talking about?

[Carter Banks]

I'm trying.

[Producer Sean]

Talking about Jeff, and he didn't get fired.

[Tate Brown]

You're talking about Jeff, too.

[Producer Sean]

That guy. He didn't get fired.

[Libby Evans]

Did you still have a job?

[Producer Sean]

But. Oh, yeah, he still has a job.

[Tony Ortiz]

I think he was gone for like, what, two weeks?

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, it was like two weeks. He just apologized. Whatever. I mean, it's horrifying. But what I will say is we are in the age of unapologetics, right?

[Tony Ortiz]

Well, yeah, we've come back. We've got hot blonde women advertising jeans now.

[Libby Evans]

American Eagle did not apologize. They were like, like, hey, America.

[Producer Sean]

Biden so bad at his job that he completely changed the entire political landscape of the country to go back, like, 20 years, which is crazy. Like, he was that bad.

[Unknown Speaker]

Joe Biden.

[Producer Sean]

Thank you. Joe Biden.

[Tate Brown]

It's almost by the country as a whole is going back to his ex.

[Libby Evans]

Joe Biden the Patriot going back to their. To his ex.

[Tate Brown]

The whole United States as a whole are going back to our ex.

[Producer Sean]

We're going back to woman.

[Libby Evans]

There was a study that came out also. Do you remember under, before COVID and then during BLM and all of that, you had the New York Times and all these other outlets talking so much about race that people's fear of racism and belief that racism was a huge problem in the country skyrocketed. And a new study came out, and that number is back down to sort of normal.

[Producer Sean]

You know, people crave authenticity. They crave people that are unapologetic. They want people that are outspoken, they're done with. They want comedy back. You know, I haven't seen Naked Gun yet, but that was a spicy movie. They came back. I mean, you remember from childhood. I'm hoping they did a good job with it, but I'm just saying they're trying. It's coming back.

[Tony Ortiz]

Do you think the Democrat Party as a whole adjusts their messaging because this isn't working anymore.

[Producer Sean]

They're doing podcasts.

[Libby Evans]

They are. At all. In fact, they're doing the opposite. And this is a huge problem for the Democratic Party. Right. They could go in two directions. Right now they have two options. One, go a little more establishment, veer center, capture that part of their base and that part of their vote voters. Or they could veer far left and go the Zoram Mandani, Omar Fatah, like all of these guys in this direction, and that's what they're choosing to do. You had Elizabeth Warren the other day saying that Zoran Mamdani's message is the message for the future of the Democratic Party. She was very clear on that. AOC is endorsing. You have Bernie Sanders on that side and the people in the Democratic Party who are not endorsing. Mom. Donnie, you have Chuck Schwab, Schumer, you have Hakeem Jeffries. They're not endorsing Cory Booker. Not endorsing, but they're being super quiet about it. They don't really want you to notice that they have not endorsed the socialist candidate for mayor for New York City. So they're hedging. They're skirting those questions. You had Kamala Harris recently come out. What was it last week on Stephen Colbert. And when she was asked who the leader of the Democratic Party was, she did not say herself and she did not name anyone. Instead, what she said was that she'd like to take her book and tour around the country, not asking for people's votes. She's trying to come out as an outsider to the political party, that she should be the head of right now, but she can't say that she's the head of it. Nobody is the head of the Democratic Party right now. And so what you have is the far left taking control. They're taking charge of this party. They're veering it further toward literal crazy. You know, everyone's gonna starve. Communism. That's what they're advocating for. And so is the Democratic Party going to. To switch up their message because they're losing. No, they're doubling down on the lunacy. They're doubling down on the socialism, the free buses, all of the rest of it.

[Producer Sean]

I disagree. I do think you're right.

[Libby Evans]

But look at what's. Look at the landscape.

[Producer Sean]

No, I do think you're right. I do think there's a percentage of the left of the Democrats that is definitely embracing socialism and communism. But if you look at the moderates, Michelle Obama has a podcast. Gavin Newsom has a podcast. If you're looking at all the.

[Libby Evans]

Gavin Newsom is not a moderate. Neither is Michelle Obama. Both pretty far left.

[Producer Sean]

Mamdani's going on with Hassan. Like, they are looking at what we're doing and the things that we've done. Podcasting, sure. They're talking about Epstein.

[Libby Evans]

They're trying to. They're trying to.

[Producer Sean]

Like, they're talking about.

[Libby Evans]

They're. They're trying to mirror the cultural impact, but the messaging is still further.

[Producer Sean]

I understand, but all I'm saying is they are starting to learn from their mistakes with the concern only in terms of presentation. Exactly.

[Libby Evans]

In terms of presentation.

[Producer Sean]

I do think they give a wink in the nod.

[Libby Evans]

This is not Marshall McLuhan here. Like, the medium is not the message.

[Producer Sean]

But to say that they haven't changed anything, I think is wrong. I think they actually are learning and they're seeing what works on our side.

[Libby Evans]

You had Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, you had Nancy Pelosi out here today talking about how she wants to implement plans so that child sex changes are.

[Producer Sean]

That's punk rock, Actually, we have that.

[Libby Evans]

Punk rock for them. That's modus operandi. It's status quo.

[Tony Ortiz]

Hispanics are running away.

[Producer Sean]

Sorry, Tate. Well, sorry.

[Tate Brown]

I'm the host here, guys. Gee, I'm just kidding. We got to watch the video that Libby was talking about. This is a good video. This is Nancy Pelosi. Look, she's young, and I think she's got many years of service.

[Libby Evans]

How's your office responding to the positives.

[Will]

In gender affirming care here in California?

[Libby Evans]

Well, that is something that I'm working.

[Tate Brown]

For at the national level.

[Will]

And we have.

[Tate Brown]

Can I say, are hoping that we can have gender affirming.

[Producer Sean]

Family here for our trans kids and.

[Tate Brown]

That it's a sad thing for us.

[Will]

I'm not totally.

[Producer Sean]

I don't know what, I don't know.

[Will]

What effect we can have nationally with what we have going on in the.

[Tate Brown]

White House and in the Congress. It's really very sad. If you were there outside our door, we have a trans flag outside of our door in the office, congressional office building, we have the trans flag, as do some of our other colleagues. So as you can see, she's very well spoken, which is a beautiful thing to see.

[Libby Evans]

This is kind of, especially in our elder generation.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. This is kind of exhibit A for what Libby is saying is they're just trying to like repackage really, really horrible ideas and they're trying to. And she can't do it as well. But like she saying they're just trying to repackage it in the brocast kind of presentation. But if you just listen to her. I mean, this is the moderate position in the Democrat Party today and the Democrats, the situation they're in is the same situation the Republicans were in in 2015, which was the base had no appetite to moderate at all. And they felt like every attempt to satiate them in, in any way wasn't enough. I think in 2028, the Democrats are going to send a brick through a window.

[Libby Evans]

What do you mean?

[Tate Brown]

I think the candidate that they're not, they're not going to tolerate a Josh Shapiro or, you know, Gretchen Whitmer. They're not going to just let someone like, they're not going to have that shoved down their throat. They're going to be angry. They're going to elect an equivalent to some degree of a Donald Trump. As far as expressing anger, expressing discontent with the current of the Democrat Party.

[Libby Evans]

They have absolutely no front runner. And what's interesting about that is if you look at the past several presidential elections, by this far out from an election election, there was an opposition frontrunner.

[Tate Brown]

But at this stage you had Al Gore. You know what about 2016, the equivalent would be what, 2014. And Trump wasn't on the radar at that point yet.

[Libby Evans]

No, no, no. I mean, well, Trump was on the radar by 2015 for sure, but we're two years out. But there were also already front runners. Right. You had Marco Rubio, you had Ted Cruz, you had Jeb Bush.

[Tate Brown]

Bobby Jindal was like a front runner.

[Libby Evans]

Sure. But like you had these people and if you look for the Democrats, like this is Runway that they have to not have anybody that they're launching. You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, I think that you're looking at perhaps Jasmine Crockett, you know, you're looking at perhaps aoc. You're looking at the legit low IQ people from the Democrat Party. Cuz they're the only ones who are stupid enough to think that they have a shot.

[Tate Brown]

The difference between like a person like Jasmine Crockett or AOC versus not saying because obviously they're not the same at all. And Trump as Trump had the money. Money to like create an insurgency where in the Democrat party they're not going to have a war chest.

[Libby Evans]

They have a ton of money.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, they might have money. They don't have anyone that actually believes in the success of their dreams so much that they're willing to go out.

[Tate Brown]

And I don't think they're have a war chest like Trump had.

[Libby Evans]

I think that you're mistaken about just how much money the Democrats have. And in terms of Democrats donors and open societies.

[Producer Sean]

Well, USAD was shut down.

[Libby Evans]

So that actually USAID was shut down. But like they're gonna come up with it. I mean these people are still throwing multi thousand dollar plate fundraisers and stuff like that. They're still doing all of these things. None of that has shut down. And you had AOC after the 2024 election going out into her constituents and her district being like, I'm so confused. You voted for me and Trump.

[Tate Brown]

Right?

[Libby Evans]

AOC is very Trumpy just in terms of her populism.

[Producer Sean]

I agree with you, Libby. I do agree that they need to fix their messaging trans shit. That's so old hat now. Like there is, they're, they're gonna have to update it. But MAGA has really put together the model for what works and what talks to people. And that's literally being authentic, literally being outspoken, getting on podcasts, getting on social media, saying crazy stuff. Crockett, whether you like it or not, she's like fearless when it comes to like you know, saying what she thinks, you know, going out there, acting crazy.

[Libby Evans]

Did you see the report today from the New York Post?

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, like her seat might be.

[Libby Evans]

No, the, they were the. Apparently her staffers say that she doesn't do any work.

[Producer Sean]

Of course.

[Libby Evans]

She just hangs out in her apartment and she's like influencer level and not actually doing anything for the AOC too.

[Producer Sean]

She's an influencer, that's all. They're just influencers. I mean, let's be Real, like, politics is a popularity contest. Right.

[Tate Brown]

I think AOC actually does have, like, committee assignments. Not that. Not that that means you're working, but at least, like, she was showing up places.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, she was pockets.

[Tate Brown]

Just hanging out.

[Producer Sean]

She was on Twitch for a while playing what's a harvest game? The harvest Moon. Harvest moon, yeah.

[Libby Evans]

It's like our tax dollars with Tim Waltz on Twitch.

[Producer Sean]

I know. Our tax dollars hard at work. It's like, I'm, like, mad.

[Tony Ortiz]

Like, I agree with you. Like, they're. They're replicating the Trump or the maga, like, recipe of doing things. But the messaging hasn't changed, and I.

[Carter Banks]

Don'T think it's, like, hollow.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, messaging has changed in the sense of Epstein, though. Epstein was a big win for them and.

[Libby Evans]

No, it was not. They know it wasn't because even the.

[Tony Ortiz]

Man is upset about it.

[Libby Evans]

Well, the thing. Of course, but the. The Democrats had four years to release anything on Epstein, and if there was anything in there that actually harmed Trump, they would have released it. And that's why it sounds so hollow. And that's why you even had Joe Scarborough, I think, talking to Jamie Raskin about it on his show and being like, okay, Congressman, like, if you're so gung ho about this Epstein stuff, why didn't you do anything about it for the past four years?

[Producer Sean]

I understand what you're saying.

[Libby Evans]

And Raskin couldn't say a word.

[Producer Sean]

I understand what you're saying with the insiders. What I'm talking about is their base. And now, I mean, literally having Epstein on local news, on, you know, like, in the mainstream psyche is insane. Like, it's everything we've asked for for the last, what, eight years or whatever. Like, it's finally mainstream. So they've kind of unlocked and all they're doing is taking the MAGA playbook and using it. You know, I agree the messaging needs to change and stuff, but they are.

[Libby Evans]

I think their messaging copy needs to change because they don't think it needs to change.

[Tony Ortiz]

You won't get this word.

[Libby Evans]

I think it's just a losing message.

[Producer Sean]

I understand.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Carter Banks]

With losing people.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah. I think that that's what's going on. I don't think they. I don't think they have a great chance for the midterms either, because so far, I don't know what possibly be driving home. Jeffries is mad. He just stands there on the floor yelling about everything. You know, you have. Chuck Schumer doesn't know what's going on. All of the, all of the leading Democrat governors look like idiots out here being like, oh, we're going to redistrict our state. Well, you don't have anything to redistrict there.

[Producer Sean]

I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I also hear them saying, we need the new Joe Rogan. We need the new left Joe Rogan. And they think it's like Friedland. You know, there's no unified, there's no.

[Tony Ortiz]

Unified message in the Democrat Party. Like in Trump. Trump is like Trump's thing was like, you know, build the wall, make America great again. You know, we need to, you know, they're not sending their best. Like that was their thing. That was the thing.

[Producer Sean]

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[Producer Sean]

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[Carter Banks]

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[Tony Ortiz]

And that was like a unifying message. And like the Democrat party is what, more illegal immigration, like trans stuff. Right? And what, what else?

[Producer Sean]

Like Epstein right now.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, you hollow, you like.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, it's weird because like we actually like. I mean at least the Maga party had like goals that if accomplished would improve their lives. Whereas if the accomplished goals happen on the left, like what does that actually mean?

[Tate Brown]

Well, we don't. I mean, trans people. Well that's the problem is like you see the Zoron primary victory and everyone's like, this is great, we should export this to the country. And it's like, this isn't even really so. I mean it's socialism obviously, but if you read the policy, it's just totally incoherent. It's like, what are you exporting besides like general anti white hatred?

[Producer Sean]

What they're saying Tiktoks is That the export, that's what their ex, their export is understanding social media, how to use social media. Something Trump is very good at, something, something Vance is a master at.

[Tate Brown]

Zoron works great in New York, but it's not going to play.

[Carter Banks]

But it's like, yeah, once you get.

[Producer Sean]

The votes, then what I understand but like, but he was able to get people pumped and excited through a new medium which the Democrats have been failing at for years, in which MAGA has like taken over with podcasts and social media.

[Tate Brown]

This is just, this is just a five year growing pain. Like Obama was the first person to Twitter and then the Republicans figured it out five years later. So that's not a game changer. We're talking about actual policy platform which does have decades long implications. Implications. The policy platform of Maga will last 20, 30 years. Democrats have to pick their next policy platform very quickly.

[Libby Evans]

It'll only last if the Congress actually takes up some of the platforms. Because a lot of what Trump is doing now, right, he did by executive order in his first term. The anti wokeness. There was a whole big thing with Chris Ruffo in like, what was it? September 2020. It was massive. It was gonna be like this whole 1776 project was very cool. He had all of these executive orders going on and as soon as Biden with the border wall, all the rest of it, he did not go through Congress to get those laws passed. He did not fight for that in the legislature. And so what you had, as soon as Biden took office, like literally you can look up the executive orders. January 21, 2021, he was in there signing executive orders to reverse everything Trump did. He signed like hundreds of orders to reverse what Trump did. And then Trump gets into office, he has signed hundreds of executive orders to reverse what Biden did.

[Producer Sean]

Well, we think Biden, Biden, auto pen.

[Libby Evans]

Whatever it is, Biden reversed. He went into title nine and he said okay for title IX, which was, what was it, 64, 72, something like that. He came in and he said, okay, Title nine now sex means and gender identity. He did that by executive order. And that pushed out through all the federal agencies. Every federal agency had like 180 days to come back and be like, this is how we're gonna fix that. The Department of AG said we're gonna withhold free school lunches if schools don't let boys use girls bathrooms. You had all of this crazy stuff going on. And that was pushed by executive order so that Trump could just reverse it. If a Republican doesn't win the House again. Right. Or doesn't win the White House House, then all of these executive orders could just be reversed again and the directives go back again. Now you have to remember affirmative action was an executive order.

[Tate Brown]

Right?

[Libby Evans]

That was an executive order and that stayed with us this whole time. Why did no Republican ever reverse it? You know what I'm saying? Like any of this stuff can just be reversed. And I find it infuriating that we have a Republican Congress and a Republican led Senate and they won't take up some of these things to say we are reaffirming that Title 9 means, you know, legal protections for actual women or whatever. The other things are, some of the border security measures, a lot of that stuff. Has the House passed anything other than the Lake and Riley act and the big beautiful bill this year? And there's tons of policy proposals from Trump's executive orders. The anti wokeness, some of the anti wokeness in AI, which I think is a really big deal. And the Congress hasn't taken up any of it. And instead you have the Senate being like, no, we're not gonna stick around and try and confirm some of your appointees. And the House is like, no, we're gonna go. You have a bunch of people being like, yeah, we're gonna take this free trip to Israel. Like, what are you doing? You know, what are you doing? Like, put your stuff together. I will say that back these policies.

[Producer Sean]

There's been a little black pilling on Trump on the show for, for a little bit. And I understand the frustration, you know, especially like with the way the Epstein thing was handled and with some of the other stuff. But like, just imagine the other option we had if Kamala's president right now. I mean, that's. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm just saying, like, you know what he's done, especially rolling back di a lot of the changes he's made. Like there have been like the, you know, the ICE stuff like going after your legal. It's like he has done a lot in.

[Libby Evans]

I'm not complaining about Trump, I'm complaining about Congress.

[Producer Sean]

Even the admin.

[Tate Brown]

I was going to say the thing is, is when people say, well, look at what we could have had. That's not a pro Trump position. That's a absolving Congress.

[Producer Sean]

No, no. But I'm saying I'm both pro and thank God we don don't have the other side. I'm. But I'm also a fan of what he's doing with immigration, what he's done with dei, what he's done with a lot of this stuff, you know, like the JFK stuff, obviously that was interesting, but I think the only thing that he's really kind of screwed up was Epstein. And I don't think that was necessarily him. I think that was his team.

[Tate Brown]

Well, speaking of immigration, we got one more story here from the Post. Millennial Superman actor Dean Cain to join ICE will be sworn in, quote, ASAP. Dean Cain, an actor who played Superman in the 1990s TV TV show Lois and Clark. Lewis and Clark.

[Producer Sean]

Lois.

[Tate Brown]

Lois and Clark.

[Producer Sean]

My 90s.

[Tate Brown]

I'm sorry, that was totally different. We can't get them. All right. The new Adventures of Superman told Fox News is Jesse Waters prime time on Wednesday that he is joining ice. Kane explained that he had put out a recruitment video on Tuesday in which he had laid out the benefits interested parties would get of joining ice, of which Waters had shown a clip on his show. Let's take a look at the clip.

[Tony Ortiz]

What are you going to be doing at ice?

[Tate Brown]

Well, let me go back a minute here, Jesse. This is all your fault, by the way.

[Producer Sean]

I'll explain why.

[Tate Brown]

Because I put out a recruitment video yesterday. I'm actually a deputy sheriff, a sworn deputy sheriff and a reserve police officer. I wasn't part of ice, but once I put that out there and you put a little blurb on your show, it went crazy. So now I've spoken with some officials over over at ICE, and I will be sworn in as an ICE agent ASAP. So they'll have 80,001 recruits for their 10,000 positions.

[Producer Sean]

Well, they can't have a better guy than Dean Cain.

[Tate Brown]

Are you going to be hopping out of ICE fans and apprehending guys? I will do whatever Director Lyons wants me to do, if that's what it takes. Absolutely. I somehow doubt I'll be in that position, but I would be there in a heartbeat. These brave men and women need someone to stay, stand up for them. So rarely, you know, these days are we seeing that someone like Danny Daniel Penney stands up, he gets vilified. Dan Bongino steps up, gives up 5 million a year and goes and takes his position at the FBI. This is the kind of thing where people have to step up. I'm stepping up. Hopefully a whole bunch of other former officers, former ICE agents will step up and we'll meet those recruitment goals immediately. That chyron was incredible. Illegals have gone their kryptonite.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, that.

[Tate Brown]

That's a beautiful thing.

[Producer Sean]

I love it. Patriot Kane, I think you should do it in the Superman costume for like some media on it. I think that'd be fantastic. Like literally Superman kicking out the illegals. This isn't novel, though. Steven Seagal did this. Remember, he became a cop. He went, you know, he became a cop.

[Tony Ortiz]

It looks more like a publicity thing, but this is. He won't even flat fat out say whether he's actually going to be on the. It's probably a desk job or a media job that.

[Producer Sean]

No. Oh, no. Steven Seagal was out there like arresting people.

[Carter Banks]

So lawman.

[Producer Sean]

Exactly where he's. The comedy comes in.

[Tate Brown]

It's worth. It's worth noting that, like, ICE is so much different than anything we've seen so far. ICE in the Trump administration. Because this really does feel like to some degree like the reconquista. And this is like an ability. This is the ability to participate in the reconquista. Put your name in the history books. I was talking to Owen Schroyer about this earlier news in total agreement. So I don't know if you guys agree, but if you're like a young man and you really feel like your inheritance has been stolen, when you look around your country, you see ICE as like the ticket to like actually restore that inheritance.

[Libby Evans]

Plus, like $50,000. That doesn't hurt until signing bonus.

[Tate Brown]

The glory alone is great. And then you can pay off your college.

[Producer Sean]

You guys covered this last night, though, like, they still, like, the barrier to entry is still ridiculous. Right? It's like you have to be a government employee. You have to have a four year. You have to do. I mean, why would we do that?

[Tate Brown]

Four year gets you around it and it's like half of Zoomers are going to college, so.

[Producer Sean]

But again, like, why put yourself in debt for something like, if you know this is the job you want college anyway. Most people who goes to college, Zoomers. Oh, that's a bad choice.

[Tate Brown]

More than half are in. Like, I mean, that's your.

[Producer Sean]

I think. I think you're going to get better candidates. I like Tim's point on this. Let them in and train them. Let literally anybody can do any job. That was the whole thing with.

[Libby Evans]

I don't think that's true. I don't think.

[Producer Sean]

Catch me if you can. He literally taught himself to do.

[Libby Evans]

But that's a different thing.

[Producer Sean]

Right?

[Tate Brown]

But he learned and they are working.

[Libby Evans]

There's a ton of jobs I can't do. Like, I can never be an elder elephant trainer.

[Producer Sean]

If you had on the job training and somebody that was good at their job, you 100 could be an elephant trainer.

[Libby Evans]

I don't think so.

[Producer Sean]

I do.

[Libby Evans]

And also, like, I could never be a weightlifter.

[Producer Sean]

I. Well, okay, well, what do you mean? You pick up a weight, you're a weightlifter.

[Libby Evans]

No, that's not a profession.

[Producer Sean]

And like a profession that's different. But if you have, like, someone.

[Libby Evans]

That's what we're talking about. We're talking about jobs.

[Producer Sean]

That's. Yeah, I know, but if you have someone that's good at their job, at training, you can learn.

[Libby Evans]

Never going to be a rodeo clown.

[Tate Brown]

So this is blank slate theory, disavowed, never put. This is libtard theory and weight theory.

[Producer Sean]

What is.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, you're saying anyone can be a weightlifter. It's like, no, you need to be Austrian. That's how it works.

[Libby Evans]

Anybody could be a man if they just wish it harder.

[Producer Sean]

No, I'm not talking about biology. What I'm talking about is, like, literally on the job training, Tate, you weren't in the seat. A couple months later, guess what? You're in the seat, you learn how to do the job.

[Tate Brown]

I didn't transition for the job. You had to be a weightlifter.

[Producer Sean]

I'm just saying, like, we need to have more faith in the workforce and not look at people that don't have a college degree as lessers.

[Tate Brown]

Okay, you're all wrong, Sean. All wrong. I just got a text from a friend, Devin. He's a bodybuilder, and he said blue hoodie has no idea what weightlifting is like. Okay, that kind of says it all. Right.

[Tony Ortiz]

People just don't have the genetics for it.

[Producer Sean]

Okay.

[Libby Evans]

I think we should all call Sean. Blue hoodie.

[Producer Sean]

I'm right. I've been on many work sites where you can literally teach someone. Like, I don't like looking at people as lesser, especially people that are on the floor.

[Tate Brown]

Like, people's lesser all the time. That's being American.

[Tony Ortiz]

I think that's the problem, though, is that we don't. We don't accept the fact that some people can't do certain things, whether it's a gender issue or a race ethnicity or race race issue or just an intellect issue. Like, there's going to be jobs that we can't do.

[Producer Sean]

So. So I'm going to ask you this question. So you think they're rate that your race prevents you from learning a job?

[Tony Ortiz]

There are some things that. Sir, I mean, this is just factual. Like, there are some races that excel at certain things over others. And that's not. I don't think that's I think it's.

[Producer Sean]

Actually better to accept you have any examples.

[Tony Ortiz]

I'm not going to give an example.

[Producer Sean]

I mean let's, I mean let's get into it.

[Tony Ortiz]

Like, like, I couldn't, I couldn't probably be a bodybuilder. Right?

[Producer Sean]

Like, because, because you're Mexican.

[Tony Ortiz]

I think, I think I don't have the genetics for it. Like I look at my father and my family.

[Producer Sean]

Oh yeah, but that's, but I'm not saying. But your race. Does your race actually pre.

[Tony Ortiz]

I think in some situations that there are specific.

[Producer Sean]

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That's not the itinerary we're following.

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[Producer Sean]

Cancel contact T Mobile things that you cannot example boys.

[Tony Ortiz]

Okay, look at like, look at like, look at like football teams as majority blacks they excel. Like look at how they, they, they build muscle faster.

[Tate Brown]

Muscle fibers.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, absolutely. Okay, you look at like some Asian.

[Producer Sean]

You don't think that comes from the culture that's pushing the kids to be in sports from like the age of five?

[Tony Ortiz]

I think that that's actually true. I think science will actually show that black people have a tendency to build muscle faster and have.

[Tate Brown]

Well, they develop earlier.

[Producer Sean]

So what you gu is black people are better at sports than white people.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Yes. Obviously. That's like everyone in our. I just want to get that out with team sports.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, I don't think that's true.

[Producer Sean]

I don't think you're arguing either.

[Tate Brown]

I think you can NBA and NFL. I mean the NHL is.

[Libby Evans]

But I mean that's just recently. That's just recently. I mean the NBA, like, the NBA originally, like it was mostly white dudes Jewish players.

[Tate Brown]

Players, you know, when they were all like, bombers.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah. But there's LeBron.

[Tate Brown]

LeBron.

[Tony Ortiz]

When you try to get like to a higher elite level, like, yes, if you're from a certain base.

[Libby Evans]

But it's just where we are right now culturally.

[Producer Sean]

I think it's more culture in the black community. They really push their kids to focus on sports at an earlier age than in other groups.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, but I mean, I, I mean I, I and lived in America and have had white parents who push their sons and daughters to be like soccer players. And if that's all they do their whole life. And ski racing as well, like I ski race as a kid. Like, people put their entire life behind that and like, yo, your kid is never winning an FIS race. It's never going to happen.

[Producer Sean]

Understood. I'm not saying, I'm not saying anyone can do anything when I' saying is your race doesn't necessarily prevent you from doing something like you can be born.

[Libby Evans]

Of course your race doesn't prevent you from doing.

[Producer Sean]

You could be born. Like Yao Ming was 8 foot. He was in the NBA forever. They loved him.

[Libby Evans]

And what about, like, what about the. There was like a plethora of Eastern European basketball players for a while that were like.

[Producer Sean]

And the Europeans are crushing in the NBA and they're. They're white. Tate.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying, like, I, I just think it's a non starter if we're going to say that white Americans are just as likely.

[Producer Sean]

I think it's a bad argument, but it's a bad.

[Libby Evans]

I think it's, I think that's totally cultural.

[Producer Sean]

Yep. I agree.

[Tate Brown]

I grew up in Memphis. I really wanted to go to the NBA. You realize pretty quickly it's not gonna happen.

[Producer Sean]

But you, but, but you. But I'm saying there is a white person like you, like, taller than you and better than you that could. Is what I'm saying.

[Tony Ortiz]

I think if we're talking generalities, generality, of course there's gonna.

[Unknown Speaker]

Exactly.

[Producer Sean]

Right. But, but also there's something to.

[Libby Evans]

What about hockey? Right. And this country, like, that's a, that's a very.

[Tony Ortiz]

We also look at general gender. Like men perform better in certain things. Women do and vice versa.

[Tate Brown]

Women, that's academic Olympiads.

[Tony Ortiz]

And I think if you can accept, if you accept the fact that some that genders have superiority in certain things different, then I think it makes sense that races would fall into that as well.

[Libby Evans]

Gender and race are totally.

[Producer Sean]

Gender and race are different also too. Like, there is something in this country a Make colorblindness great again. B. We were always taught, like, for more. Your kids. Guess what? With enough hard work, you can get there.

[Unknown Speaker]

Totally.

[Producer Sean]

Like, that's the message.

[Libby Evans]

I'm always. True, but.

[Producer Sean]

I know, but the message should still be to the kids. Instead of telling kids, hey, you're victims. You're. You're. This. You're never going to make hard work.

[Libby Evans]

You too can read the Odyssey, you.

[Producer Sean]

Know, like, you can do it. Like, you can do it. Put your mind.

[Tate Brown]

Okay, but you literally, you mentioned. You said. You said someone taller than you can make the NBA. So you're already conceding that your genetics absolutely determine you're going to do with your life.

[Producer Sean]

Okay, fair. So instead of maybe being a player, they can go into ads for the NBA. They can go into some. I'm just saying, dude, like, sometimes your dream is your dream. It's like, hey, I want to be in the NBA no matter what. It's like.

[Unknown Speaker]

But they're not being prevented from it. Like, you can. Just because you are able to do something doesn't mean you're going to be.

[Tate Brown]

Like, so part of the.

[Producer Sean]

Telling them their race doesn't allow them to do. It's a bad message anywhere in the United States.

[Unknown Speaker]

Anywhere is telling you can't do something.

[Producer Sean]

We just said it on point.

[Unknown Speaker]

The point is saying, like, it's bigger than just like, any. Any person's skin color. Like, skin color means almost nothing. I friend from. From North London, that is, that has lived in London his whole life, and he's a black guy, and he doesn't have anything to do with. With like. But he's. He's English in all sense of the word. I understand that. I'm not, I'm not like, not being an idiot here, but I'm saying, like, just the idea that someone has, like. Like their skin color is like, the only thing that determines. Like, we have a major issue in this country with cultural assimilation. Yes, Cultural assimilation is the major issue with all of this. Immigration has nothing to do with the skin color. I don't care what your skin color is. It matters if you can ass the culture and become an American. That's the issue. I don't want to be like, oh, we can let anyone. It's like, yeah, sure, anyone can do it, but can they reach those. Like, we're based on meritocracy. Can you reach the actual level? Just because you can do the job doesn't mean you're the optimal person for the job. Doesn't mean you're the best Person to be doing it.

[Producer Sean]

But hard work, way big.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, hard work, sure.

[Producer Sean]

But like get you there. It's the point I make that that needs to come back. In our culture, like we lost that. The kids these days are being taught your sex, your race, whatever, it's holding you back. There's nothing you can do. Our society, society stacked against you. Instead of getting back to the what the 90s and the 80s kids were told, it's like, hey, you want to do that? Do it. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And look, we're telling people you can be anything you want. Goddess. Shoot for, got us into the biggest mess.

[Producer Sean]

If you shoot for the moon, the worst you can do is land on the stars.

[Tate Brown]

I'm not, I'm not making any argument for like genetic determinism. I'm just saying like, people need to be like kind of realistic and stop telling like five foot women they can be cops.

[Tony Ortiz]

That's where I fall. It's like, okay, you just have to be able to accept the fact that, you know, if you're five foot five, you're probably not going to be an NBA.

[Producer Sean]

I want.

[Carter Banks]

And I walked into so many open calls in New York and they were like, get out of here.

[Producer Sean]

You're not even with the police though. There's clerical needs. There's a whole bunch of office needs. There's a whole bunch of stuff.

[Tate Brown]

Started talking about ICE officers and then you're, you're making an argument.

[Producer Sean]

It's like, no, the ICE has clerical needs. They have logistical needs. They need people mapping out where the trucks are going like you.

[Unknown Speaker]

There's definitely someone that's been better at doing that and someone's being worse doing that. And I think like right now we have a situation where it's like, oh, just because you can do the biggest basic job. Like, like I see videos of people at Walmart that are like not doing the job at all. And like, oh, well, I work four hours and I get this money. It's like I, I'm just quiet quitting. I'm just trying to like, whatever, get by. It's like, I don't want you working there, bro. I like, stuff needs to get on the shelves. Like, stuff needs to happen. We need to like have a functioning country. Just because some people can do the job theoretically doesn't mean they actually will. Doesn't mean they have like a real drive to actually.

[Producer Sean]

But you're missing the point of the message. The message is if you truly want to do it, hard work will get you there. I, I understand what you're Saying, serge, like, if they don't want to do it, it. You're right. You're not going to force a circle. No square peg. Right. But if somebody's truly motivated and they're like, this is my dream. This is the thing I want to do, we should be.

[Tony Ortiz]

But that, that messaging has gone too far because you're seeing so many, like institutions, whether it's schools or even military or police, they're lowering the standards because they want to accommodate that ideology. They want to say, well, so you're telling, you're telling somebody you can do whatever they want and they physically or literally can't. So we're just going to lower the standard standards so that they can hit that completely.

[Producer Sean]

That's.

[Tony Ortiz]

That's the big problem.

[Producer Sean]

That was never part of the messaging in the 90s. It wasn't like, work hard and you can achieve because we're in a lower standards. It's work hard. So you know what, it takes place.

[Unknown Speaker]

You with a ton of random people that we're going to bring to the country at the end of the, at the end of your college wasn't the mess. Sorry, our bad job. And everyone came.

[Tate Brown]

We have a generation of children whose parents told them they can do anything they want, they can be anything they want. And that just raises a bunch of really, really entitled people.

[Producer Sean]

I disagree. I think it, I think it. I think it brings us people that like, actually think outside the box and can think past, like, what these, what society is putting on them as far as. You can only do this, like, if it's America, dude, that's the whole reason why we are America. People come here because they know if you work hard enough here, you can do whatever you want.

[Unknown Speaker]

Stop coming. Yo. Stop coming.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, please.

[Producer Sean]

You can.

[Tate Brown]

Your dreams will not happen here. We're full.

[Producer Sean]

Yes, exactly. We're full now.

[Tate Brown]

Unless.

[Producer Sean]

I'm saying that was always the idea.

[Tate Brown]

Unless you want to join ice, then we can maybe make a deception, I.

[Producer Sean]

Think, I think like telling kids that the white kids are oppressing the black kids and black kids are victims. Victims. And they're never going to make it.

[Tate Brown]

That's a horrible argument.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, well, that is what's being taught today.

[Carter Banks]

I thought we started with anyone could come and do anyone else's job if taught by somebody who does that job. I don't agree with that.

[Producer Sean]

Really?

[Tate Brown]

No.

[Producer Sean]

So, okay, give me a couple of examples of jobs you think that can't be taught outside of weightlifting, which, I.

[Carter Banks]

Mean, I could teach you how to be an audio engineer over the course of like 10 or 15 years if you're really good at music.

[Producer Sean]

So you don't think anyone can learn how to be audio engineers as long as.

[Libby Evans]

I think it's. I think it's pretty difficult to teach writing. I mean, if you're, you know, you can teach somebody who can write something to be better.

[Producer Sean]

We can't teach writing either.

[Libby Evans]

You can teach somebody who can write to be a better writer, but I don't think you can teach someone who has no skill to be good.

[Producer Sean]

Listen, there's always a percentage for the X factor in anything. And I think if people have that X factor, and a lot of times it's interest and passion, like autism, to the point where they want to just do it, do it. You know what I mean? Those are the people you can train. That's what I'm talking. I'm not talking about you can train some Joe Shimo off the street. That's like, not interested at all. I'm talking about the people at actual.

[Carter Banks]

I thought that's what you were saying.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, no, no, like, like, yeah, you can get them there. Right?

[Tate Brown]

Like, I think both are possible. I mean, you look at the classic disposition, which is Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Lionel Messi is like 5, 6. Nothing about he has a growth hormone deficiency. Nothing about him would indicate this is going to be a top level athlete. And he's the greatest soccer player of all time. On the other hand, if Cristiano Ronaldo is 6, 3, 4, physical specimen, he trains, he's like, has the most diligent diet probably on planet Earth, and he's also achieved that very high level. So it's like there is two pathways. You could work your way there or with L. Messi, he does work very hard, obviously, but he's a natural, natural level of talent. And so it's like it's the same thing with writing or the same thing as sound engineers. Like, you can teach someone to get to a really good point, but to be that Lionel Messi, you just have to have that intangible talent that is born, you know?

[Producer Sean]

And I don't know if you're too young, but like, Mugsy Bogues was in the NBA. Does anyone remember? Remember Mugsy Bogues? He's like 5, 1, 5, 2. I mean, what if people told him, oh, you're, you're not tall enough, whatever, blah, blah, blah, that dude is like an all star. I mean, there are exceptions. So, like, all I'm saying is it shouldn't be taken off the table. We shouldn't be teaching kids that they're worthless and that they're victims. We should be teaching them that you can do anything. Totally put your mind to it. Figure it out if you. Especially if you have the passion.

[Tate Brown]

All right.

[Producer Sean]

If you're American.

[Tate Brown]

I agree. All right, we need to get to Super Chats, I think. Right, Serge? Serge is kind of like, coaching me through this whole situation. I know. It makes it. I. I look like I got it all locked down. I'm putting it all together. It's actually Serge throwing up hand signals. I think you threw up a gang sign earlier. So we need to be a little careful. But do you read. Do you just read every Super Chat?

[Unknown Speaker]

I'll show you.

[Libby Evans]

We'll get there.

[Tate Brown]

Okay. All right. Just point while you're Hover over what.

[Producer Sean]

I read while you're transitioning. It's American, not American. Hey, hey. Whoa.

[Tate Brown]

All right. Join ice, all right.

[Producer Sean]

And lower the standards for eyes. I think a lot. I. I think you get a lot more for your thing. I think is poor government. Like, you have to have government experience. It's like, no, we don't want people in the government. They're worthless.

[Tate Brown]

All right, well, it's time to read. I got to lock in here. James Adrin says, good luck, Tate. Hopefully this won't be remembered as a taint cast.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, you can do anything you want on your last day.

[Tate Brown]

I think the jury is out so far. I don't know. We'll see what the. What the people say afterwards. Was it rabert G. Stanbert Jr. Cool that Tim got a long lost Tate brother as a backup host. Yeah. People don't realize having Tate as your name when you were scrolling through your. Your. Your Twitter feed and you see people like, Tate is a domestic abuser. Tate, kids trafficking women. And I'm just like, the psychological impact that has reading your name, doing that over. And I'm like, I didn't do that. I'm a good guy, I think. I don't know. But, yeah, I appreciate it.

[Producer Sean]

Wait till list comes out. We'll see.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, that's true. Let's see. Big7588 says the last time a citizenship question was included on the main U.S. census Census questionnaire sent to every household was in 1950. Bless you.

[Producer Sean]

1950.

[Tate Brown]

1950. That's according to Big.

[Producer Sean]

The point I'm making with that is not that it's on the census. The point I'm making with is these people. Don't these people trust police officers less than black people? You know, What? I mean, like, they don't want to talk to anybody.

[Libby Evans]

Well, they tried to get the citizenship question on the census in 2019 ahead of the 2020, and it was not approved. Proof to go forward.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Brett Dasovic, Tate cast. Remember, boys, calories in, calories out.

[Unknown Speaker]

I had to.

[Tate Brown]

That's based. It's based.

[Producer Sean]

It's true.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. If you didn't see last night.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, we got an extended version today from Tim on the calories and calories.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. If you didn't see last night, the, the war, the, the psychological war, I would say, between Phil and Tim over calorie counting.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Was. I mean, it made Israel and Palestine look like a slight disagreement.

[Libby Evans]

Wait, who agree? Who. Who had. Which take?

[Tate Brown]

Phil was saying calorie deficit is all that matters to cut weight. And Tim was saying, no, you need certain nutritional, protein, exercise.

[Producer Sean]

And he. He references Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Cause Neil Grass Tyson's a fat ass. And he. He makes the calorie in, calorie out. Argue.

[Libby Evans]

I've only ever had success losing weight one time in my life and it wasn't exercise and it wasn't calorie deficit.

[Producer Sean]

You exercise every day. So how do you.

[Libby Evans]

You do now? Oh, anxiety and depression. Super effective. I lost 30 pounds in like two months.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, yeah, Just don't eat.

[Libby Evans]

Amazing.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, just, you know, extended food.

[Libby Evans]

I wasn't even not eating.

[Producer Sean]

Not eating is just. It was just being sad all the time.

[Libby Evans]

Anxiety, crying, depression. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Heron Gaming News says I support the removal of junk food from food stamps, but pre cooked deli items should be.

[Producer Sean]

Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

[Will]

Honestly, Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new family freedom offer.

[Producer Sean]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[Will]

Well, I'm departing from AT&T and embarking on a new journey with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house.

[Carter Banks]

Bon voyage.

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[Tate Brown]

This is one of the most spectacular.

[Producer Sean]

Venues with all kinds of character and hospitality, scenery. These people in this Gitas Valley, they love when you come to see what they have to offer.

[Unknown Speaker]

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[Tate Brown]

And I want to invite you to the rodeo.

[Unknown Speaker]

Come hang out with us in Ellensburg.

[Tate Brown]

Great rodeo.

[Producer Sean]

Great time.

[Unknown Speaker]

Two performances on Saturday. One is the extreme bulls of the year event. Do not miss the Ellensburg Rodeo August 29th through September 1st.

[Tate Brown]

We'll see you there. Covered. Some people don't know how to cook.

[Libby Evans]

I agree with that. That's a good take, aren't they?

[Tony Ortiz]

Well, in Texas, we recently just passed the removal of soda and candy for snap beneficial. And so that was a really big deal for us. And you know, it's crazy and a lot of people aren't talking about is the, the soda industry. The packs were paying influencers to fight against that.

[Libby Evans]

That's pretty dirty.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, it's very dirty. And there's a lot of, yeah, a lot of. Of MAGA influencers were being paid without disclosing to not to promote, not removing soda and candy.

[Libby Evans]

I think that was a big turning point actually because like the whole influencer getting paid to do stuff market like had there, like with advertising, you know, it's always very clear like this is an advertisement when we run ads on the post Millennial website. And I know you do this too, right? Like you have to say, like this is an advertisement and there haven't been standards for influencers. It's such a new area X has.

[Tony Ortiz]

Guidelines that has some gray guidelines about it, but they're not doing it. And, and this is specifically a huge problem.

[Libby Evans]

Do you think people are doing it now after that whole soda kerfuffle?

[Tony Ortiz]

They're known. Absolutely not. They're doing it today. There's a. Plenty of, and I hate to say it, but there's a lot of MAGA influencers that are taking cash from packs from other organizations, organizations from polit, directly from politicians in order to push policy. There's this big MAGA influencer, I'm not going to drop his name, but he was taking money from the green energy lobby being paid $12 per petition to push solar energy in Texas. And it was so disingenuous. They were using the background, they were using oil wells in the background of this petition. But you were signing something that was promoting wind and solar energy in Texas and you got called out on it, immediately deleted it. But there are companies that, that will you can sign up if you're this mago influencer that will pay you to push like petitions or policy. And they don't, they, they're not disclosing. In fact I posted this and I got approached by one and they specifically ask you not to really to put it that it's an ad or that you're being paid for by it.

[Libby Evans]

I don't have a problem with it so long as it's fully disclosed.

[Tony Ortiz]

I totally agree with you. People should be able to be compensated for their, their, their following.

[Libby Evans]

Absolutely. But you should make a lot of sense. It should just be disclosed. Just, just like with anything else.

[Producer Sean]

I disagree with the super chatter though. I do think deli meat should not be a part of it because it's horrible for you. It's full of sodium.

[Libby Evans]

It's, it's, it's make a little sandwich.

[Producer Sean]

No, it's completely unhealthy. And the argument of oh people don't know how to cook. Come on. YouTube teaches you everything.

[Libby Evans]

No, I think that, I think pre prepared deli foods should be fine. I think you should be able to.

[Producer Sean]

Get the Stouffers horribly unhealthy.

[Libby Evans]

Well, I think you should be able to get some of this stuff. Like I think it's okay. I'm not a fan of putting chips in candy bars and sodas on.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Libby Evans]

But I think that there's a lot of room for lifestyle choices that are healthy within the rest of the framework. This is not typically stuff that I buy, but I mean I'll buy deli meat and like make a sandwich or whatever. You know I'm just saying if, if.

[Producer Sean]

The goal of Maha is to make the food more healthy that you're getting from government.

[Tony Ortiz]

A classic American sandwich, like classic lunch is a ham sandwich.

[Producer Sean]

But you can cook the chicken. Chicken you can. It takes two. Come on. You go on YouTube, anyone can learn how to cook a chicken.

[Libby Evans]

I don't think there's anything wrong with deli meat.

[Tate Brown]

I don't think so. Okay.

[Libby Evans]

You think they're eating cheese like you were saying?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Do you think they're eating rotisserie chicken up on the Empire?

[Producer Sean]

Rotisserie's good sandwiches.

[Libby Evans]

I think you should also be able to get the pre made, you know, sandwich on the pre made potato salad.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah. But they were also working their ass off.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Because they're eating sandwiches that, that fuels the American man.

[Libby Evans]

Like a sandwich.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

You can eat anything want when you're working on skyscraper.

[Tate Brown]

Real Shane H. Wilder says. I'm sorry Libby, I'm going To be nerdy and correct you. Jim Jones did not use Kool Aid. It was flavor aid. The dude couldn't even sell out for the good stuff.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, well, they were socialists.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, there you go. Well, if you're killing everybody, you may as well. And actually, that is, of course, where. I mean, it's sort of apocryphal at this point, because the phrase drink the Kool aid comes from the Jim Jones massacre, Right? And nobody says drink the flavor aid. So I'm sorry, Shane. The. The history of it has been replaced with the metaphor.

[Producer Sean]

Also true. The real story was they didn't drink the Kool aid willingly. It was by gunpoint.

[Libby Evans]

Yes.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, it was by gunpoint. And those that didn't, they shot him.

[Libby Evans]

Anyways, and they killed a congressman who went down there.

[Producer Sean]

Congressman Rob. That's when it. That's when it went all awry. As soon as that congressman died and they killed him.

[Carter Banks]

I would argue it went awry before that, but he definitely capped it off for sure.

[Producer Sean]

And guess what? They were socialists. Didn't work again. Socialism failed again.

[Libby Evans]

Also, wasn't he banging all the chicks on the compound?

[Tate Brown]

Of course.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Libby Evans]

It's always the guru guys you got to watch out for.

[Tate Brown]

Hey, I'm starting. You know, more I learn about these cults, the less I like them, I gotta say. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of these.

[Producer Sean]

I can't take. I can't take the opposite of that argument. Like, I would love to take the opposite.

[Libby Evans]

The culture, no bueno.

[Producer Sean]

I can't name a good cult.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

I don't know what Scientology is the most successful.

[Tate Brown]

Well, Heaven's gate. They got some cool shoes out of it, I guess. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Nice.

[Producer Sean]

They're wearing websites. Exactly.

[Tate Brown]

Yes. They left one guy behind at 3 billion. All right? Mike G. Says count the illegals after they're rounded up and sent to detention centers in red states. Let's play really dirty.

[Producer Sean]

Why are we sending them to detention centers? Why wouldn't we just send them out of the country?

[Libby Evans]

Because you got to put them somewhere before you get them on those flights.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, I see. Oh, staging. Okay.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah. Like, what is it? A speedway slammer in. Where's the speedway slammer? Is that going to be Indiana? The Speedway slammer? Alligator. Alcatraz in Florida.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, I'm just saying, like, the. The cost to put them, like, on planes and stuff. That's got to be insane.

[Libby Evans]

Well, Biden was like. Well, not exactly paying for people to come in, but he was facilitating all those people to come in. It's, you know, it's got to cost money to get people out.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, no, I get it.

[Tate Brown]

Here's a good one. From Mehmed to illegals were filling out the census. I did work census in 2010. I was a census crew leader specifically because of. Spoke Spanish.

[Tony Ortiz]

Yeah, they really. Because you're.

[Tate Brown]

To your point.

[Producer Sean]

Hold on. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

[Tony Ortiz]

I agree with you that. That the illegals are. Are hesitant to talk to government, but these people were showing up in T shirts, jeans, shorts, saying, hey. Talking to them in their native language, saying, fill out this form. And it really, like, put them at ease in order to fill something out.

[Producer Sean]

I will say 2010, though. All right, there's. There has to be a difference here because I understand what you're saying. Illegals with the anchor babies are a lot more confident than the illegals that don't have the anchor babies. I'm sure the people that he was talking to in 2010 had American kids that were. So that would be interesting. Maybe super chat or throw in the comments, let us know, like, how many of those illegals that he was census thing surveying had kids. I'd like to know. They're more confident.

[Tate Brown]

Could be. TNP says what's the chance we can get Kurt Kaz or Tyler Oliveira or bald and bankrupt on the podcast. Would be good to get some trips. Travel vloggers on. That would be sick. Baldwin Bankrupt's, like, huge. Yeah, he's really good.

[Producer Sean]

Does he have a contact? Tell him to reach out.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, Kurt Kaz, he's. He's. I don't see as much from Tyler Oliveira, but yeah, Kurt Kaz is. Does a lot of wild videos.

[Unknown Speaker]

Obligatory South African shout out to Kirk Kaz. But Tyler Oliveira just did that video. We went to Paris. I don't know if anyone's seen that, but, like, I mean, I know, like, I think probably Asmin them covered the video and a Tectone covered it and stuff, but, like, the video is nuts. If we just get people to go on the streets and show what it's really happening. It's.

[Tate Brown]

I still. I'm sitting on a bunch of travel vlogs from Africa that I got to do something with.

[Unknown Speaker]

We should do something with them.

[Tate Brown]

I think we should do something with them. Release them to the shameless plug.

[Producer Sean]

Am I right?

[Tate Brown]

Well, no, they're. I don't know. They're just sitting on a hard drive. Yes, anything. This is holding myself accountable to do something with it.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, there we go.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Let's see here. Andrew D. From NP says imagine Tulsi V. Kamala in three full one on one debates.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, Tulsi Rexer.

[Libby Evans]

Tulsi her in 2020.

[Producer Sean]

Well, yeah. What do you guys think, Tulsa on the debate stage? Tsi.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. It's not going to get up here and say Kamala would win really decisively.

[Producer Sean]

I do. I mean, Libby, what do you think of this ticket? Like J.D. tulsi maybe. Yeah. I mean, obviously it's too early.

[Libby Evans]

I mean, it really sort of depends on what happens with the Russia stuff, right?

[Producer Sean]

What do you mean?

[Libby Evans]

Like she dropped all those documents. Yeah. Alleging that Obama and Hillary Clinton.

[Producer Sean]

Will we see arrests?

[Libby Evans]

Will we see something come from that? Okay, I think that that is actually so underreported right now and we really need to know.

[Producer Sean]

It's a good thing you work for a news organization.

[Libby Evans]

Well, we've been reporting on it, you know. Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

Where can they find that?

[Libby Evans]

They could find that. The Post Millennial Sean.

[Producer Sean]

Hey, hey. That's not a shameless plug. See the difference?

[Tate Brown]

Someone you didn't see says, in keeping with Tim Cast tradition, we are here at the hospital for the delivery of our first child. Want to shout out my wife for staying so strong through the pain. Praying for a safe delivery. We will pray for a safe delivery as well. That is awesome.

[Tony Ortiz]

Congratulations.

[Producer Sean]

Congratulations. I will say, like congratulations.

[Libby Evans]

That's wonderful.

[Producer Sean]

Tim always talks about the population declining, but for some reason every show there's one or two kids that are born. Born in the super chats.

[Libby Evans]

That's very cool.

[Producer Sean]

So like which way is it? I can't wait for the census.

[Libby Evans]

Everyone should have babies. It's better than everything else.

[Tony Ortiz]

Maybe they need to watch more Tim Cast.

[Libby Evans]

Maybe so.

[Tate Brown]

I think we have does something to these people.

[Producer Sean]

We have someone tomorrow that does not agree with that sentiment. I can't wait.

[Libby Evans]

Really? That's because that's your sentiment, Ella Camino. Yeah, well, I think having babies is the best.

[Producer Sean]

Okay.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah. It's a work in progress. Vacant stair says the asylums used to have large farms and they had the committed work in the farms or the other their cottage industry. Yeah, I mean that's still. The chain gang is still a thing. Like we still use labor from like.

[Producer Sean]

Like, is he saying prison?

[Libby Evans]

That's where we get our license.

[Tate Brown]

Asylum.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Speaking of the dmv.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. Yeah. We have all these people in prison. Like, yeah, absolutely. Put them on the farms. Like, you know, like, seriously, what are we doing? It's. It's crazy. Like we're just Paying for them to live in these prisons. The prisons are making money. We're losing money.

[Tony Ortiz]

Didn't we used to have criminals or felons or whatever? You also fighting fires?

[Producer Sean]

Yes. Yeah. They still do it. I think they still do it. Yeah. And they have like ROTC programs too, I think, where they can join the military and stuff. Like, all that's good stuff, you know, like, why are we using a underclass of people that's not even from our country? We literally are paying for people who have three meals, you know, and beds every night. It's like, come on.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Producer Sean]

And that don't pay them. See, See that Tell you.

[Tate Brown]

They pay.

[Producer Sean]

They, they pay $2 an hour.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. They pay the firefighters.

[Producer Sean]

No, the prisoners. I think they. It's like, it's like something like a dollar an hour, $2 an hour or something like for the work they do. Something like that.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. It's like. Because they make it sound like it's slavery. It's like they're getting compensated.

[Producer Sean]

Right.

[Tate Brown]

Especially being in prison. Your commissary runs exactly a great thing. But I got to be careful pronouncing this one. Come on and get some. Oh, come on and get some. Okay. That was Adam. Scared, no joke. The farm thing is a great idea. I know of a place called Renovas, Renovators and Jefferson's City, Tennessee. It's a Christian based program that houses them and has them learn skills on the farm.

[Producer Sean]

Shout out, shout out. What's his name? Her name? His name.

[Tate Brown]

Come on.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And get some. But Renovatis and Jefferson City, I mean, yeah, these places, I mean, they have like, they have these, these programs where they, they send people to like the, the troubled children to. To farms and these sorts of things.

[Producer Sean]

Like, and a lot, you know, a lot of it too. It's like, especially with troubled youths, you know, that word's being used a lot, but a lot of times when they get into jobs and they, they actually go home from doing like a day's work, there's a sense of pride there. And I think, again, like, that's something that's. You can't measure, you know.

[Tate Brown]

Serge is finding me another chat. Is that this one? This one's a good one. Yeah. The Bruce, Bruce Sebalvaro. They edited the crime race profiles of arrested people into non, hispanic and white to boost and drop numbers.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Well, you see like some of these mug shots and, well, and then what.

[Producer Sean]

Fox had on today, like the numbers, it was insane. It was like white. It was down, down, down, down, Black was up, up, up, up. And then 2024 was like, white was way up and black was way down. I was like, what happened? That typically doesn't ha. Yeah, like, yeah, what happened there?

[Tate Brown]

It could be returning to a very traditional view, like the founding fathers, where, like, Franklin viewed anyone that wasn't English as like, swarth.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

So maybe that's what's going on. Yeah. Maybe they're just returning. Turning to heritage or like the post Millennial reported.

[Producer Sean]

They're just messing around. I can't swear yet, but messing around with the numbers.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Producer Sean]

Playing with the cooking, the books.

[Tate Brown]

Daniel Irving says, parents to prison. That is dumb. Unless you give parents 100% control over their children.

[Producer Sean]

A parent should have 100% of their control of their children at all times. If they're out there killing people, it's on the parents. It's the values that they taught them and the fact that they're not supervising them. It's their fault.

[Tony Ortiz]

Or if a child can kill somebody, do we just jail the child? Like, is that a.

[Producer Sean]

Well, both. But the problem is that you can't because of the way the system is set up now. The kids can't go to jail for now.

[Tony Ortiz]

We send them to jail then.

[Producer Sean]

Right, right. But I'm saying, like, to like, get.

[Carter Banks]

Out and have no parents. Right, because they'll be in prison.

[Libby Evans]

But, like, parents don't. I mean, Sean, you're completely misunderstanding how parenting works. You don't have control of your child 100% of your time. Because the entire process of raising a child is going from when they are totally dependent on you to when they are not dependent on you at all. And that's a process of. That's the process of raising your child.

[Producer Sean]

If you raise your.

[Libby Evans]

If you're like, there's a totally different situation between having a, you know, one year old, two year old.

[Producer Sean]

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[Tony Ortiz]

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[Carter Banks]

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[Libby Evans]

10 years old, you pretty much have control over your child. But at a certain point, you put your child on the school bus, they're going off to high school, you do the best that you can and ideally you've done a great job. Right? You feed your kid, you sit like you sit down with your kid every night for dinner. You talk to them all the time. You're in touch with what's going on with them.

[Producer Sean]

Know what's going on.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah, but it's a process of growing your kid up so that they can take care of themselves and be part of the world.

[Producer Sean]

Just saying if you are, if your child is in a position where they've killed someone or did something horrible to another person, it leads me to believe that the parent has no idea what's going on in that kid's life. Because you would know, Libby, if your kid was like with the maniac Latin disciples or whatever, I'm sure you would know by now, right? So like you as the parent should be responsible for like removing them from those situations. That's all I'm saying. Like there needs to be more accountability on the parents.

[Libby Evans]

Some parents don't know and they think their kids are great.

[Carter Banks]

Some kids are psychopaths and can trick correct sure thinking like everything's cool.

[Producer Sean]

Okay, that's an exception to the rule then. Most kids are not smarter than their parents. Can outsmart them, just cut off their funding. Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

What does that cut off their benefits?

[Unknown Speaker]

No money.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, no, I'd say that.

[Tony Ortiz]

No, the parents cut off their benefits.

[Libby Evans]

Eat them.

[Producer Sean]

You know what benefits though?

[Tony Ortiz]

What if they're taking like SNAP benefits, you know, okay, Tax deductions on stuff, whatever. Just eliminate that kid commits crimes. It won't stop. You don't get government benefits anymore.

[Producer Sean]

I'm just saying like not all kids that create cause crimes are on Ben on ebt. Well yeah, like the parents need to be an active role.

[Tony Ortiz]

Like find the parents, your kid keeps breaking into cars, you owe the government $7,000.

[Producer Sean]

That's the issue I have with the Elon statement because it's like oh, about like, oh, having kids, such a good thing. Blah blah, blah, blah. They, they keep missing the part of the messaging. Hey, when you have a kid, guess what? Your life is now focused on that kid. And a lot of parents, especially these days, with how hard it is economically, they think, oh, I can have a kid. And like, oh, it's going to be fine. No, no, no. You need to, like, sacrifice and take care of that kid. And that means being a part of their life, talking to them, knowing what they're doing. And if they're in crime and doing all this other stuff, that's on you. Sorry. It's on you.

[Tate Brown]

Omega.

[Unknown Speaker]

Just Japanese rosetsu, I think.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, sorry, sir. My bad. All right. As an individualist, I cannot agree with this potato in a blue jacket. If the parents have done everything to prevent criminal criminality, you should not punish the parents because peer pressure exists.

[Producer Sean]

I love this rage bait. I love it. It works in high school. Like, if your kid's not going to high school and they're not showing up and they're truants, you know, like, the high schools will go after the parents. Obviously, it's not straight to jail, but, like, over time, if they're, like, completely delinquent and they're not showing up and they're doing all these horrible things on the street or whatever, and the parents aren't doing anything about it. Yeah, jail.

[Carter Banks]

So how many years should the parents go to jail for, like, a school shooter or something like that?

[Producer Sean]

A long time.

[Carter Banks]

Like, forever, maybe.

[Producer Sean]

Like, it depends on, like, that's what I'm saying.

[Tony Ortiz]

Have to show that you created an environment as a parent or you.

[Carter Banks]

Right.

[Tony Ortiz]

Allowed this to happen. Like, right. If you're a parent and your child ends up being a school shooter and you bought the kid the gun, you knew he was suicidal, you knew he was bipolar, and, like, all the signs were there, then, yes, maybe punish the parent coming around.

[Producer Sean]

He's warming up.

[Tate Brown]

But.

[Tony Ortiz]

But if, like, you just wake up one day and your kid just, like, totally flips the script and maybe does some right. Drugs that causes, like, then punish the exception.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah. Except there are definitely exceptions to the rule. But if your kid's the weirdo kid that, like, doesn't shower and bathe and sits in the corner and, like, cries or whatever, and you know nothing about it, like, there's an onus on you as a parent. Right. And like Tony said, they shouldn't have access to guns if they're crazy.

[Carter Banks]

Like, sorry, no, they shouldn't.

[Tate Brown]

Eric Shaver says, how do you guys complain about bums asking for money when you. You get paid through ad fraud inflation to sit around and B word. You Guys are the sh. Bums. You lie.

[Producer Sean]

Sh Bombs.

[Tate Brown]

Do you like being chastised by homeless people? Is that the implication? I mean, I'll send them your way if that's what you want. Because you're like Mr. High and Mighty here.

[Producer Sean]

Oh, my God, that's such an uninformed take too. Like the amount of work and sacrifice Tim has put into this company and the amount of like, he's putting 15, 16 hours a day. This team here, working 15, 16 hours a day. Working six days this week, seven days coming up. We got some other things coming up. Like, it never stops here. But it's. It's our passion. We love to do this work. Libby can talk about it too. She's up in the morning. 6am when you go to bed. 6, 7am when you go to bed.

[Libby Evans]

Like midnight.

[Producer Sean]

Okay. Most people don't. Are not doing that. Right. So, like, 7am to midnight is a lot of work. So this guy has no idea what he's talking about.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Eric.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, sorry. Eric, relax.

[Tate Brown]

Methos671 one says. I hate to say it, but I think the front runner is going to be Cory Booker.

[Producer Sean]

Whoa, you think so?

[Libby Evans]

Cory Booker.

[Tate Brown]

Speaking of potatoes and clothing.

[Libby Evans]

Gee, I'm interested to know why you.

[Producer Sean]

Think that for the Democrats. I mean, I hope you get. I mean, obviously. But like, I don't disagree just because like all of the press on the Democrat side, like, any live stream I see from like the DNC or whatever, always has him in it. You know, like, he really, really is popular on, but so is what's his face? Newsome. And Newsome has a podcast, so.

[Libby Evans]

Yeah. Newsom has a podcast because he's trying to launch a run for president. Yep.

[Producer Sean]

Well, that's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I think that that inches him out over Booker Just because he has a podcast. That would be my guess.

[Tate Brown]

Is this one good patriot, One patriot Paladin. I am five, seven, a marine and soldier who ogt'd all of my skills and picked up a lot of advanced skills and positions before I. I got my bachelor's paper is just an appeal to authority.

[Producer Sean]

Thank you.

[Tate Brown]

I agree. Hard work beats talent. When talent.

[Producer Sean]

What's the hard work, baby?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, so it's like. Yeah, well, I mean, you have the talent of like having an insane work ethic.

[Tony Ortiz]

A lot of these American schools, it makes them more lazy and more entitled. It's just a. It's just like a glorified high school than it is like actually learning some. Of course some professions. Like, like I Wouldn't want to. I'd want a doctor that has a master's and doctorate degree. Like, of course, like, but not, you.

[Libby Evans]

Know, I will say, like, I went. My high school was really hard, college was less hard, and graduate school was the easiest.

[Producer Sean]

But there is a value to grind, and you gotta grind. Life is all a grind. And it's like, I wonder if that's.

[Libby Evans]

Why it was easier. I got better at working hard.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, well, find what you're passionate about because the grind becomes enjoyment and not, you know, like, I've been in the jobs where I hate them. You know, it's like you're going in, you're punching the clock. You know, you have to be there eight hours. Sometimes you have to be there 12 hours. I get it. They're rat race sucks. But, like, you have to grind. And, like, I just fear we're. We're teaching these kids. Like, it's like there's nothing you can do. So just give up. I mean, how many Gen Zers are on the show saying nothing ever changes, nothing ever happens? It's like they're completely numb to anything. Like, like. And look at it changed. Look, you're. You're Tim tonight. Look at that. Something changed.

[Tate Brown]

Y Sailor Motoko says there were clerical workers in Haiti that literally could not learn how to alpha alphabetized. Couldn't even conceptualize it. So you can't just teach people how to do a job in all cases. I mean, Afghanistan's exhibit A. Like, we tried so hard to teach them democracy and they just. Yeah, we're not into it.

[Carter Banks]

Didn't grind.

[Tate Brown]

That's the problem. Yeah, they. Maybe they just had the work hard.

[Producer Sean]

Yeah, well, no, it's like Tiktoks. If you go military action will never change, will never change an ideology. You can't go in and force someone to believe something.

[Tate Brown]

I think ideologies are also just. Instead of like, being top down, they're bottom up.

[Carter Banks]

A forced passion.

[Producer Sean]

Right. It's like the Japanese love our culture and they're always been, like, impressed by us. So, like, jeans and like, American stuff is popular there in Afghanistan and Iraq. They hate us. And then you have Obama, like, killing all their kids all the time. It's like, of course they're gonna hate us.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Devin H says we have robots that pick strawberries. Look at Oshi Farm Corp in Jersey City. They pick the very soft Japanese strawberries too. Energy costs is what kills vertical farming.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. I see a lot of, A lot of stories of how energy intensive some of these operations Are clinkers need energy. It's true, dude.

[Producer Sean]

Clinkers. Yeah.

[Tony Ortiz]

Taking our energy.

[Tate Brown]

We're taking our energy, dude.

[Libby Evans]

Fracking toasters.

[Tony Ortiz]

Fracking toasters.

[Producer Sean]

No, there's going to be some bad ones coming out. You know it. I'm not even going to try this one.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. From Millennial Mama. Millennial Mama says it's always rich getting parenting advice from a bunch of dudes who have no kids. Yep. Can avoid military school. Some parents are actually doing the best they can. I'm. I didn't say anything, so I'm absolving myself.

[Producer Sean]

Conversation. Listen, I think. I think the wrong. The wrong thing.

[Libby Evans]

Millennial Mama, you are on to something.

[Producer Sean]

Well, Millennial Mom, I think is taking offense to the wrong thing. Millennial Mama's involved in her kids life now.

[Libby Evans]

You're going to speak for the people.

[Producer Sean]

I'm talking. Listen, the people. The people I'm talking about are the people that have no.

[Libby Evans]

Apologize on behalf of the blue hoodie over here.

[Tate Brown]

People.

[Producer Sean]

The people that have no presence in their kids. And we all know those people. All right, we could pretend like everyone's a great parent, but we know that's not the case. Like, there are some people that are more active in their kids lives and some that aren't. And typically, when you're more active, guess what? The kids typically do better. Right? That's all I'm saying.

[Tate Brown]

All right, well, I think we're. I think we're good to wrap. Let's see. 9:50. Yeah, let's get one more. We'll take one more. Okay, More here.

[Unknown Speaker]

I like it because it's Canada.

[Tate Brown]

Let's see. Oh, this is Canada. Okay. Josh, Josh, Josh. This one. Josh.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, this one.

[Tate Brown]

Josh Berg says, I just read a story today about a kid who was born at 22 weeks, but we deport the illegals and we up the cost of abortions to pay for their medical treatment, and we fix our population crisis.

[Producer Sean]

Wait, say it one more time.

[Tate Brown]

I just read a story today about a kid who was born at 22 weeks. But we deport the illegals and we up the cost of abortions to pay for their medical treatment, and we fix our population crisis.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's wrong. It's okay. I think I rumbled this in Mexico, so it's fine.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, it's all right. All right. Yeah. Well, that was.

[Producer Sean]

I missed it.

[Tate Brown]

That was like a riddle. I think I got to sleep on that one to figure out what he meant. It sounds like it was, like, maybe offensive, but.

[Producer Sean]

Join the member show is going to Be fun. People yelling at me about, oh yeah, how to parent. There's going to be fan.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. So we're going to head to the. We're going to head to the Rumble uncensored version. People are going to lay into Sean, so sign up. Tony, you want to shout anything out?

[Tony Ortiz]

No. I appreciate you having me on. If you're a Texan watching this, appreciate you following us. We post just about Texas news.

[Tate Brown]

So where can people find you?

[Tony Ortiz]

Current Revolt.com or Twitter @ Current Revolt.

[Tate Brown]

Beautiful. Beautiful. Sean.

[Producer Sean]

Producer Sean. Follow us. Tim Cast News everywhere. It's going to be a fun after show. So like if you are a Rumble member, if you have to subscribe to us on Rumble, you can join that show. So do that.

[Tate Brown]

Sweet. Carter.

[Carter Banks]

Carter Banks. You can follow me everywhere at Carter Banks and also Trash House Records. We'll have some cool announcements coming. Coming soon. So follow us there. Libby.

[Libby Evans]

I'm Libby Emmons with the Post Millennial. You can find me on Twitter and I would love it if you subscribe to my newsletter, which is thepostmillennial.com Libby. I send it out every day. Just things I've been thinking about and a bunch of stories and also I just want to shout out. We have a new sponsor, Newsquiz IO, so you can check that out. And it's a daily news quiz that is, it's kind of like the New York Times one, except that we source all local, you know, conservative outlets. So local national mostly, but sorry, yeah, you should check it out. Thanks.

[Tate Brown]

And thank you, Tim Cast viewers for hanging in there with me.

[Producer Sean]

Great job.

[Tate Brown]

Tate got across the finish line, so Tony made it easy. He's the. He's the best. He's the goat. You can find me at Real Tate Brown on X and at Real Tate on Tate Brown on Instagram. I think I said that right. Yeah. Anyway, at RealTape Brown, anywhere you'll find it. We're gonna head to that Rumble uncensored live show. Thank you for watching. We'll be back tomorrow. See you later.

[Tony Ortiz]

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[Producer Sean]

Hi, I'm Chris Gethard and I'm very excited to tell you about Beautiful Anonymous, a podcast where I talk to random people on the phone. I tweet out a phone number. Thousands of people try to call. Talk to one of them. They stay anonymous. I can't hang up.

[Tony Ortiz]

That's all the rules.

[Producer Sean]

I never know what's gonna happen. We get serious ones. I've talked with meth dealers on their way to prison. I've talked to people who survived mass shootings, crazy funny ones.

[Tony Ortiz]

I talked to a guy with a goose slap, somebody who dresses up as.

[Producer Sean]

A pirate on the weekends. I never know what's gonna happen. It's a great show. Subscribe today. Beautiful Anonymous.