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Trump Orders Review of Smithsonian For Being Woke & Out of Control w/ Kevin Sorbo
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Phil, Elaad, & Tate are joined by Kevin Sorbo to discuss the left losing their minds over Trump calling for a review of the Smithsonian for being too woke, Tulsi Gabbard revoking the security clearances of 37 individuals, Republicans ability to...
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Donald Trump took to Truth Social today to voice his criticism of the Smithsonian and the legacy media called him racist for it. DNI Gabbard nicks 37 more clearances of individuals related to the Russia Russia hoax and we'll talk about that. Hillary Clinton thinks SCOTUS is going to do to gay marriage what they did to abortion, and she's probably right, so we'll talk about that. And Eric Adams has some word for Zoan Mamdani's plan to legalize prostitution, and none of them are good. So smash the like button and share the show with your friends and head on over to Caspre.com and buy some coffee. You can get Josie's 1776 Signature Blend. You can still get two weeks till Christmas, which is my holiday blend, even though the holidays are actually coming again. Around again, you can get Ian's Graphene Dream. We've got K cups. And of course you can get Appalachian Nights, which is the biggest of all of our coffees. It's my favorite. It's the one that I drink in the morning. So head on over to Casper and do that. Then head over to timcast.com and join our Discord. In the Discord. There's like 20 or so people, right? There are all kinds of different people with all kinds of different backgrounds, but they all share a lot of a lot of things in common. Maybe you'll meet a girl, maybe you'll have kids. Maybe you'll start a podcast but there's a bunch of things that you can get into in the Discord. And if you're a member of the Discord, you should also head on over to rumble.com and become a member there so you can watch the after show. And then from the Discord, you can call into the after show and you can talk to our guest. You can talk to the, the panelists. So head on over to rumble.com Become a member there so you can watch the after show. Head to timcast.com so you can and join the Discord so you can call in and excuse me. So smash the like button, Share the show with all your friends. And joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we have Kevin Sorbo.
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Kevin Sorbo
I'm here. It's good to be back. It's been a couple years. So it's, it's nice. Got the new digs here since I had last been here. It's pretty impressive.
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Phil
Most people know who you are. But for the people that don't, please introduce yourself.
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Kevin Sorbo
Well, I'm an actor, director, producer. I was Hercules for seven years. I brag a little bit. Most watched TV show in the world back in the 90s, 176 countries and Andromeda, the first show Gene Roddenberry wrote after Star Trek. I'm Captain Dylan Hunt, first Captain after Kirk and then since then, over 90 movies. I got four new ones coming out.
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Phil
Awesome.
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Kevin Sorbo
And three new documentaries. The done in the can. I've shot three new ones this year. They'll be out next year. So I'm staying. Busy.
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Phil
Busy guy, huh? Yeah. Complain Tate is here.
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Kevin Sorbo
It's true.
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Tate Brown
Producer Tate, Tate Brown here. I'm just blessed to be at the table with a legendary Kevin.
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Kevin Sorbo
Oh gosh.
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Tate Brown
So awesome to be here. Let's get into it. I'm excited. We got the legendary a lot as well.
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Alay Eliyahu
Thank you. Good evening, everybody. I'm a lot Eliyahu White House correspondent here at Tim cast. I don't know, President AI Skeptic as well get into that and other things later on the show.
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Phil
We can, we can get into that. All right. So we're going to jump right into it from cnn. Trump escalates attacks against Smithsonian museums. Says there's too much focus on how bad slave he was. Now that's not what he said. He said that there was, he said a lot more than that. But of course, you know, the, the legacy media is going to do everything they can to say Donald Trump is a racist. He's a very evil bad man. He's orange. You should all hate him so from cnn though, President Donald Trump escalated his campaign to purge cultural and institutions of materials that conflict with his political directives on Tuesday, alleging museums were too focused on highlighting negative aspects of American history, including how bad slave. In a truth Social post, Trump directed his attorneys to conduct a review of museums, comparing the effort to his crackdown on universities across the country. The Smithsonian is out of control, where everything discusses how horrible our country is, how bad slavery was, and how unaccomplished the downtrodden have been. Nothing about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future, trump wrote. I mean, where's the lie, right? This is, this is pretty standard when it comes to academia, when it comes to, you know, things like museums and stuff, it really does. It doesn't focus on anything positive about, about the United States, you know, so CNN went on. Trump's comments come after come days after the White House announced an unprecedented, sweeping review of the Smithsonian Institute, which runs the nation's major public museums. The initiative, a trio of top Trump aides wrote in a letter to Smithsonian Institution Secretary Lonnie Bunch III last week, aims to ensure alignment with the president's directive to celebrate American exceptionalism, remove divisive or partisan narra restore confidence in our shared cultural institutions. I'm not sure how that's a bad thing. I mean, Kevin, what do you, what's.
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Kevin Sorbo
Your sense of, you know, everything's racist, right? Everything's Nazi, everything. It's just how it just comes going on for decades. It just gets old. And, you know, when Trump talks about that, it's, I look at liberals every day. Every night they go to bed angry and every morning they wake up angry. And it's like, what can I be pissed off about today? And this is something I want to jump on him for. Because reality is every country has good things. Every country's had bad things. Every single country. Why not in the museum? You can have what they got in there, but why not what he said? Why don't you put things that make America great, make America the country everybody wants to come to, and you just get bashed for that. It doesn't matter what Trump says or does. I post it on my ex account. I said, if Trump said air is beautiful and a wonderful big thing, they would start suffocating themselves. This is what they do.
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Phil
So one of the lines that stuck out to me is the how bad slavery was, right? And I would push back on that and say how bad slavery is because slavery is still practiced in AF in Africa, still practiced all over the Middle east. And it is a bad thing. But the one, one of the things that, that they're leaving out is there is no slavery in the United States. There is no slavery. Well, arguably the 14th Amendment made it okay for, to enslave people if they go through the court system. But chattel slavery has been ended. There's no slavery in Europe. And it was the British that actually ended slavery before we did. Before we did for the United States. Yeah, around the world. And that kind of, you know, that kind of that or that, that truth, that honest fact that the British were the, the first to, in human history to end slavery because slavery was practiced, you know, by all human beings. Stop Slavery was practiced by all human beings. The fact that the British were the first to end it, you know, is, is never mentioned in, in any of.
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Kevin Sorbo
The, you know, early 1800s. I believe they abolished it before, but way before we took us, it took us to war and 600, 000 deaths before we abolished it. But you know, you can still talk about the sex trade though. That is, that is a form of slaver. There's no question there. But that's not what this issue was about.
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Phil
But, but in the United States, if you are found to have trafficked people, we arrest you, we throw you in jail. You know, we, we and we free the people that were being trafficked. So the way that they cast the United States in places like the, the Smithsonian and we went over a little bit of this the other day about the way that white privilege or, or what whiteness is and stuff, the way they cast people is actually counterfactual because they don't talk about the fact that white people were the first people to end slavery. The British, you know, that they went around the world and didn't just end it in, in one place, they ended it in the whole British Empire and they, you know, a lot of people died doing it. They fought, there was a lot of fighting over it. So I think that it's totally unfair to, to cast the United States as some unique evil take. Do you think that this is, this is something that is going to be, is going to resonate with Americans? Or do you think that it's something that is going to set Americans in, you know, set them up and make them to get all up in arms?
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean, I think Western governments, broadly speaking, I mean the U.S. the UK, France, they just, their, it's their entire history curriculum is just meant to demoralize their own people. I mean, because if you go like I've been to a lot of countries. I've been to Qatar, been to Kenya, South Africa, Israel, Japan. And I always love going to the national museums in these countries because they're proud of their heritage and they're proud of what their people have accomplished. And the entire museum is just filled with their highlights. It's like their highlight reel. But then you go to the Smithsonian or you go to the British Museum in London, or you go to the, the National Museum in France and every exhibit that they have there is just pre built with an entire paragraph like a Star wars crawl style apology for everything that's you're about to see in this exhibit.
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Phil
Land acknowledgments and the like.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, so if you're like a little five year old in, in Washington D.C. or visiting Washington D.C. you know, from the home, from the heartland, or if you know, you're from England, visiting London, going to your national museum and you just see an apology before every single exhibit that's gonna, that's gonna set in your mind early that oh, I'm evil, my, my country is evil, my people are evil. And people around the world outside of the west do not have that problem a lot.
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Phil
Do you think that it's a bad thing to cast your own country in a positive light, considering the fact that every country does country things, right? Nations do nation state things and sometimes those things are not good for other nation states or other people. But do you think that it's a bad thing to cast your own country in a positive light? Or do you think that you should actually be as critical of your own country as you possibly can be?
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Alay Eliyahu
I think you should be fair and call balls, balls and strikes. Strikes. I believe the President's greater point here is that the Smithsonian institutions are choosing to focus on the worst things about our country and not focus on the way on. I think this is a battle of greater narratives. Are we a country founded based on white supremacy and that our founders are irredeemably bad? Or is our country about overcoming and trying to live up to the values in our Constitution about how we overcame slavery, how we liberated Europe, how we acted as a bulwark against communism? Or should we focus on all of our country's shortcomings and make our and believe that our country is irredeemable because of them?
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Phil
Have we really acted as a bulwark against communism?
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Alay Eliyahu
I definitely believe so for a while.
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Phil
We did not lately.
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Alay Eliyahu
I mean, depending on who you ask, but. And I think it depends on whose values you ask because I think People like those in the Libertarian Institute don't act as a bulwark against communism. But I believe people like Trump and the Trump administration manufacturerly do. Manifestly do. I think that that's the greater point here. What are the values we choose to focus on? Having said all that, I will say the Black History Museum is a blemish on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. just architecturally, that is. It's an ugly building. It's like an ugly brown. Just if you guys wanted to pull up a picture of it. It's just. It doesn't fit in with the architecture of the rest of the National Mall. But I don't think that's what Trump was talking about here.
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Tate Brown
It's like a Toblerone bar.
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Alay Eliyahu
Do you guys know which one I'm talking about?
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Tate Brown
It's like a couple Toblerone bars.
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Alay Eliyahu
It seems to be very out of place.
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Tate Brown
The thing with the Smithsonian and why this is so embarrassing is. Cause this isn't our capital. This is where.
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Alay Eliyahu
Look at that thing.
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Tate Brown
Thousands of tourists visit. I mean, stuff like this. It's like thousands of tourists coming from all around the world and they see this and they see us apologizing. I mean, that's a terrible.
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Kevin Sorbo
Look what they passes. Look what they pass as art. The liberals love ugliness.
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Phil
Tell me Jawas aren't going to come at it.
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Kevin Sorbo
It's weird to me what they do with their architecture.
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Phil
Tell me Jawas aren't going to come out and they're going to shoot your robot and they're going to take it.
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Alay Eliyahu
Well, what's a Jawa?
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Phil
Is that a Star Wars?
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Alay Eliyahu
Okay, I thought that was another AI. No, no, no robot or something.
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Phil
No, but anyone that, that's familiar with the. The old Star wars would. Would recognize that. But it does. It looks like the jaw was, you know, big transportation. Anyways, it does look ugly. And I do think that it's worth, you know, a society at least, like you said, calling balls and strikes. You know, it is. We shouldn't hide the fact that there was slavery. We shouldn't hide the fact that there was Jim Crow. But we should highlight the fact that those things ended. That we do not endorse those things currently, that we got rid of slavery in the United States, that 600. Like you said, 600,000 people died. More people died in Getty at Gettysburg in one battle, then died in the. Than Americans died in the whole Vietnam War.
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Kevin Sorbo
Well, more. More people die in that. In that the Civil War than all of our wars combined together. So that's quite amazing. And that's 600,000 of our own people as well. So this is sort of what we're stuck at. But here's the problem. It boils down to where we are in the education system as well and through our universities. Because we're not teaching civics to kids. We don't want people to know. It's we, the we the people. They don't want kids to know that they don't want to teach them real history anymore. I mean, it's just incredible. When I was in school let's map.
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Kevin Sorbo
Bon voyage.
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Kevin Sorbo
I took American History, Far Eastern Studies and Russian studies. That was in my public school. It was amazing, you know.
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Alay Eliyahu
Where'd you grow up getting I grew up.
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Kevin Sorbo
I grew up. I grew up in a little town called Mound, Minnesota. It's about 25 miles west of Minneapolis where unfortunately, Minnesota's turned into California with its politics. But they still have a pretty good public education system to this day but back then, it was amazing. I really was very fortunate where I grew up.
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Alay Eliyahu
It's fascinating because on issues like the Civil War, as I understand in some Southern states, they actually teach it as the War of Northern Aggression. That's not how I was taught. I don't think war history. Am I making that up? I believe that's what. I don't think they're taught in the South.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. Back in the day, I'm sure.
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Alay Eliyahu
Oh, not anymore.
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Phil
I don't think that it's currently that way. I think it's probably. Probably in the 60s, it was like that. I don't imagine that after the civil rights movement, I don't imagine that that was the case, but. Or at least after the Department of Education.
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Tate Brown
Well, now you're seeing a reaction. Like there was a story today, this morning or last night or this morning where the state of Oklahoma, their board of Education, they want to pass a mandatory exam for all inbound teachers that are coming from California or New York, and they basically want to make them take a patriot test. They're going to administer this. I think. Prager, Prager, you might be behind it.
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Phil
Good.
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Tate Brown
But, yeah, I mean, because you see these tiktoks on Twitter of these teachers. I mean, who knows where these people come from, which sewer they emerge from? So, yeah, I mean, I think Oklahoma's setting the standards.
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Kevin Sorbo
Well, it's either be an antifa member or be a public school teacher. In California, it was a tough decision. Look, I mean, Oregon just had some. I don't know, they passed something where students do not have to be able to read or do math to graduate high school.
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Tate Brown
Go figure.
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Kevin Sorbo
So what are they doing in school besides putting up different flags?
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Phil
But what they're actually doing is they're learning how to be political activists.
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Kevin Sorbo
Yeah, yeah.
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Phil
Because if you can actually. If you can, sure. Make children into political activists before they're even teens or whatever. If you can awaken a critical racial consciousness or awaken. Awaken a critical consciousness in them. Not only do you make them more neurotic and make them more likely to be unhappy, which unhappy people become activists. Happy, content people do not engage in revolutionary activities. So the. The leftists in schools, they want kids to be neurotic. And you make kids neurotic by starting at when they're young and showing them all these horrible things about the world. Right. Look how terrible this country is. And this was real. And these poor people here. And look, this is bad. And you show them all these things and you end up with kids that are that are like useful idiots, essentially traumatized. And. And, yeah, they are useful.
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Kevin Sorbo
Idio Lenin said back in the Bolshevik revolution, he talked about the way to control the population is through education. And that's what they're doing, and that's what they're doing here. We've accelerated, but we started in 1964 by taking the Bible out of the schools. Right. We give to prisoners, of course, but everybody was homeschooled prior to public education. Coming into the late 1800s, maybe when we started public education, everybody was homeschooled. You know, they grew up on the farm, they read the Bible, they could learn whatever kind of history they could learn. But we changed that so drastically. And the brainwashing of these kids is the biggest. I think the blessing of COVID is so many parents woke up saying they've got to get our kids out of public education. Two million more families are now homeschooling because of that.
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Phil
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. I mean, you see, like, you see such a visceral reaction from the left towards parents that homeschool their kids or even religious schools. I mean, they have, they. They also have an access to Garth. Religious schools. And the reason is because the kids that come out of those schools end up emulating their parents more than they end up emulating their teachers. And that's a huge problem. Like you said, if there's any. Any sort of.
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Kevin Sorbo
They want control, they want.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Kevin Sorbo
What's interesting, go back to the 60s with those. Those parents, I mean, and the whole hippie movement and all that, and move 60s in the 70s. The whole thing back then was we are against the man. The man was the government. Those Same people did a 180 during COVID Yeah. Said trust a man and, and don't question science. So I laughed at it all the time ago, but that's what science does.
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Phil
I have questions when I hear people say those kind of things that the. In the 60s, they were saying, don't trust the man. And they were against the man. Even. Even things like they were against the Vietnam War. I push back, and I don't think they actually were against the man or against the Vietnam War. They just were against the people in power because they were out of power. They were against the Vietnam War because America was fighting communists. Right? The. The communists in Vietnam, the North Vietnamese, if it were. I mean, Jane Fonda went to. To Vietnam and she was very happy to. To take pictures with the Viet Cong, the, you know, the fighters, the. The military of the. Of the North Vietnamese. So it was. I don't think that they were actually against the man. They were against the United States. They were against capitalism, they were against the status quo here in the West. But they weren't against the establishment. They weren't against powerful centralized government. They were very pro centralized government because they were communists. They were, they would call, they would call themselves anarchists and probably larp as anarchists, but they certainly weren't, you know. But I think we're going to move on right now. All right, so from the post Millennial. We're going to jump to this story from the post Millennial Breaking. Tulsi Gabbard terminates 37 security clearances for individuals relating to Russia hoax, politicizing and manipulating intelligence Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has revoked 37 security clearances of current and former officials who have abused trust by politicizing and manipulating information. This includes people who are involved in the Russia collusion hoax. An ODNI memo dated Monday and first obtained by the New York Post stated that the President has directed that effective immediately, the security clearances of the following 37 individuals are revoked. Among those who had their clearances stripped was a former top aide to Obama administration dni, James Clapper. Vin Yugen. That's. I'm pronouncing that name wrong.
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Tate Brown
When Vin Win.
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Phil
Vin Win. N G U Y E N is when Vietnamese name that is something else. Their access to classified systems, facilitates facilities, materials and information is to be terminated forthwith. Any contracts or employment with the U.S. government by these 37 individuals is hereby terminated. Any credentials held by these individuals must be surrendered to the appropriate security offers the officers. The memo stated, it is the determination of this office that certain individuals have engaged in some or all of the following conduct undermining those standards to include politicization or weaponization of intelligence to advance personal interest, partizan or non objective agendas inconsistent with national security priorities. Failure to safeguard classified information in accordance with applicable laws, relations and agency policies, regulations and agency policies. Excuse me. Failure to adhere to professional analytic tradecraft standards and other conduct detrimental to the trust and confidence required for continued access to national security information. Do you guys. Is it your sense that there's going to be more of this coming? Or do you think that this is something that is. Is finally reached a peak and we'll see less of this in the future?
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Tate Brown
Well, there's, there's certainly far more than 37 names as of this morning in the intel community that are fighting tooth and nail to prevent the Patriot takeover of the United States government or the Patriot Restoration, the United States government. There's a lot of snakes in the intel community. So 37 names, that seems like a good start, I suppose. But I mean, like I said, I mean, you see over and over again, there's a lot of. There's a lot of shitty stuff going on.
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Phil
Well, there were 51, I think, that were on the initial, the people that signed the Russia, Russia, Russia Steele dossier, that they'd said, oh, this is actually Russia collusion and stuff. And so, I mean, I don't know how many they've got already. I know that they've done at least a handful already before this week, but I don't know what their, what their total is.
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Tate Brown
It's been a trickle thus far. This seems like the first big batch to get their security clearances yanked. But, yeah, I mean, like I said, I think the rot goes far deeper. And the. Not just the intel community, but national intelligence, broadly speaking, lot for the people.
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Phil
That are critical of the administration, do you think that this is a demonstration that they are actually doing the things that they said they were going to do? Do you think that. And I don't think that this will personally, I don't think that this is actually going to, you know, satisfy the people that are like, well, I don't. We haven't seen enough arrests and stuff. But do you think that this indicates that the. The administration is doing the things that they ran on and they are looking to. To, you know, sniff out the. The bad actors.
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Alay Eliyahu
So I could be out of my depth here, but as I understand the. These people aren't actually search shirts. Serge says I probably am out of my depth depth, but I don't think these people are actually receiving any intelligence that the security clearance like is enables them to receive. So I'm not sure how relevant it is at this point in time for former DNI James Clapper or Vin Nguyen to have his security clearance stripped, because I'm not sure it really matters at this point. So unless I'm missing something here, it just feels like some red meat for the base because I know he was making some promises to come after some people who were perpetuating the Russian collusion hoax, including Peter Schiff, who I believe they're going after for mortgage fraud and something else related to the. The Russian collusion hoax. And Schiff actually had to open up a defense fund recently as a result of that stuff. So even if these don't bear much fruit, the investigations in and of themselves is a punishment for a lot of these Democrats. So these are Just security clearances. So unless I'm missing something here, I don't know if this is just posturing.
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean the big thing is this is a huge hit for them in the private sector because in the private sector the security clearances were worth a lot of money. We're talking potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars table so this is like a huge hit.
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Phil
My ex wife had a security clearance for a while and when she, when she went from working, when she was from in went from being in the Marine Corps to working in the private sector, the amount of money that she could pull in right out of as an E5 she or she got out of the Marine Corps as an E5 and her first job.
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Alay Eliyahu
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Will
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That's not the itinerary we're following.
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Will
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Kevin Sorbo
Bon voyage.
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Phil
No purchase necessary VGW group Void where prohibited by law 21 + terms and conditions apply. He was making a boatload of money and it was just because of the security clearance. It's not that, you know, it's not that she, she was doing something totally different than what she did in the Marine Corps. But with that security clearance it really does benefit. Do you think, Kevin, do you think that this is something that, do you think that this is just a punishment where that losing of the security clearance is actually like losing, you know, the ability to make money? And, and do you think that this is, even if they don't have the ability to arrest them, they're going to say, well, you know what, you behave this way and we know you did, and so we're going to take your security clearance so that way you can't capitalize on it.
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Kevin Sorbo
Well, I mean, as you all mentioned, I think it is a, it is a showcase, certainly, but I think there's a lot more names in the well than they're pulling out right now, and maybe they're sending out a signal with it. Look, if you look back at the Russian inclusion, we all knew it was a joke. We all knew to begin with. I mean, do you think Putin wants Trump in office? Of course he wants Biden. Of course he wants Hillary. He doesn't want, because he knows he can push those guys around. He can't push Trump around. There's no way he'd want him in there. So for them to go through this, I think they should be punished for it in some way because it was a joke. They all knew they were lying. Schiff is at the head of it all. But, you know, it's, I think it's good. I think it's a start. At least it shows something out there. But I think there's bigger fish to catch out there and I hope they do it.
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Tate Brown
I mean, yeah, this is, this is what keeps people around the deep state, so to speak. I mean, it is very real. This is the type of thing we're referring to as these bureaucrats that maintain the benefits even after a new administration has come in. So a, this cuts them off from the private sector, so it cuts them off from a lot of wealth. And also if, God forbid, had a Democrat does come in office in 2028, it's going to make appointing a lot of these people re entry into the government a lot more difficult because now they have to, you know, reenter the security clearance process.
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Kevin Sorbo
I think Nancy Pelosi will still give them stock tips, so they'll probably do okay.
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Tate Brown
Fair enough.
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Phil
If she's around then, I mean, she's, you know, she's, she's, she's an old lady now, but she, you know, nobody can pick stocks like, like Pelosi. To your point, Tate, the, the revolving door, I do think that that's, that's worth Mentioning this is actually likely to close that revolving door on a lot of these people. So, and taking away the ability for them to come back. It is something we talked about. You know, I think we talked about it last night. If the Democrats win, the whole bureaucracy will be reinstalled. Right. So the next time the, the, that a Democrat is, is elected to the office of President, they're, they're going to appoint a lot of the same people and a lot of the same kind of people. The people that are that believe that the administrative state is necessary and, and that it is more important to have the administrative state as opposed to making the rules, as opposed to Congress making the rules. And I think that's one of the major problems that we have in the US Right now, that Congress has abdicated their responsibilities and they've handed it over to the bureaucracy because the bureaucrats are the ones that stay there. The bureaucrats are the ones that don't go away. If a congressperson, you know, if they make a vote that their constituents don't like, they can lose their job. So why make a vote when you can just hand off the, you know, the responsibility to Congress?
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean, it's true across the world that governments that are not accountable to a democratic system are much more agile. They can make long term plans. So it makes sense that even within democracies like the United States, even though we're a constitutional republic, but they've sort of hammered in a lot of democratic institutions that didn't exist in the founder's eyes. That's neither here nor there. The problem is, yeah, like you said, it's going to create an incentive for Congress to kick the long term strategic planning off to bureaucrats because they're concerned about winning another election. So the best they can do is just provide enough red meat to get across the finish line for the next election and let the bureaucrats figure out all the long term strategic planning. That's how you end up with forever wars. That's how you end up with ridiculous tax systems. That's how you end up with ridiculous social programs because those programs are not the Congress. People are not held accountable for those programs in the eyes of the voters. They can just, just pawn it off to someone.
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Phil
That's, that's, that's one of the ways that, or that's one of the ways that we have, have moved away from being a representative republic. You know, the, the fact that our representatives don't actually take votes. They don't, or they don't make votes. They're not held accountable. They've offloaded that responsibility to the bureaucrats, and the bureaucrats don't answer to the voters at all. So I don't think that it's accurate to say that we're a, A, a democracy. And we're definitely not a republic. Not a republic, you know, because, because we don't have representatives anymore. So when people say that we're an oligarchy, I don't think that that's accurate either. But I'm not sure exactly what type of government we could actually say that we do have now.
- [31:28]
Kevin Sorbo
Well, I think the next, the, the midterms are important. I think we need to get a few more seats in Congress. But I, I'm gonna go on the limb here. I think we're going to hold the presidential office till at least through 44.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, 44.
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Kevin Sorbo
Wow.
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Tate Brown
There's enough Trumps out there.
- [31:42]
Phil
I hope so.
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Tate Brown
Barons.
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Kevin Sorbo
I think Vance gets it and I think Rubio gets it right after that.
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Phil
Yeah, I mean, look, it would be, it would be really cool. I mean, I would, I would like to see that because like I said, I think that should the Democrats get back into office, should they take over the government again, you will see the bureaucracy come back with a vengeance. I think that they will attack conservatives.
- [32:04]
Kevin Sorbo
But they're doubling down now.
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Phil
Yeah.
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Kevin Sorbo
They don't even seem. They haven't learned nothing. It's just they're more angry about things.
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean, there could even be a situation, a nightmare situation I've seen proposed by a few anons on Twitter is when you clear out these career bureaucrats that have been in there since, you know, the 80s and 90s. Is that if, again, I don't, I don't think it's likely, but if a Democrat were to get back in and they could reinstall a bureaucracy, you're going to bring new blood in. And those are going to be activists. Those are going to be your.
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Phil
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Protesters from Columbia and nyu. You're going to have an entirely new bureaucratic class, and they're going to be far more fired up, have far more of a chip on their shoulder.
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Phil
Do you think that that is something that the general public is aware of? I understand there's a lot of people that are like, well, you know, I don't really like the Republicans or I don't really like Trump, that that's fairly normal. But do you think that, that the danger of having progress, real progressives in positions of considerable political power is something that voter is, is cognizant of? Do you think that's something they think of? Because it, it'll mean really bad things because what, what the, the left really has been doing in the past 10 years or so is completely hollowing out the middle class. They want to have elites and a, a and a class that's basically dependent on the, on the government. They don't want a middle class. A middle class is an empowered class. A middle class can make decisions on their own, make decisions about their own life. They're generally informed. But if you have a dependent class and an elite class, but no middle class, then you can really, you can use the government to keep the dependent class in line and keep them doing the things that you want. And you. Obviously, the elite class is, is going to live on, you know, live it up.
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Alay Eliyahu
So I'm not as hopeful as Kevin about Republicans maintaining the executive until 2040.
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Phil
I like his positive attitude, but I.
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Alay Eliyahu
Do suspect the thing about President Trump is that I think he's a very unique figure in how he was able to completely rally all different, all these disparate parts of the Republican Party that I don't think a future Republican would be able to do in the same way that he has. Trump was able to bring like pro life people, neocons, all these tradcons, different religious groups, Zionists, everybody together, anti woke people, anti communists, all together in this rare coalition that I think J.D. vance might not be able to, or Marco Rubio might not be able to. And moreover, I don't think you guys are going far enough with what I believe the Democrats will do once they get back into power, which at this point I kind of think is an inevitability because of the uniqueness of how uniting of a figure President Trump was. Not just like dealing with bureaucracies, but the way the Democrats talk about our country is that they want it to be a democracy. They see our constitutional Republican democracy. Yeah, exactly. They see Congress and the way that senators are appropriated to states as an issue as a shortcoming of our country and that this stops us from being a total democracy. And that's what they really want to be. So. And then an inevitability that I believe we'll see with the next Democratic president is the inclusion of puerto Rico or D.C. as a state. And those will permanently give the Democrats another handful of senators and also people in the House. Moreover, they're gonna continue trying to flood our country with immigrants and then use the census to try to appropriate different, more reps into areas where they don't belong. And then Also packing the Supreme Court, I suspect they will do because they will not be able to put up with this conservative majority Supreme Court for a few more decades to come. So I think they're gonna use the pretext of what President Trump did in Texas with redistricting as an excuse to what they are going to do once he is out of power. And you could tell Trump's a little bit concerned about losing the House because he felt as though it was necessary to redistrict in Texas. He felt it was necessary that Elise Stefanik stayed in her House seat in New York and not go to the United nations and not be a UN Ambassador.
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Phil
Tate, do you think that what he's outlining Trump? I think he's probably right about Trump. Do you think that's just smart politics, though?
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Tate Brown
I mean, yeah, I mean, it's a razor. Razor. The House majority is razor tight. So, yeah, I mean, keep Stefanik there. Mike Lawyer was tipped for a gig.
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Alay Eliyahu
He didn't wanna be considerations of him running for governor, but the President would have preferred him to stay in the House. I mean, why else would he have redistricted Texas on an off year? It's traditionally done every 10 years.
- [36:30]
Phil
Well, because of the exodus from California and because of the import of all the illegal aliens that came in during the Biden administration. So to redistrict. The point is, I think, and I think this partly what Trump was thinking. Not that I think, not that I disagree with you, because I think you're right, it is.
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Alay Eliyahu
Yeah. I think he's just finding an excuse to get more House seats, which I don't blame him for, because if he lost the House, then he would be impeached.
- [36:55]
Phil
I agree with that, but I don't think that that's the only thing, because if you look at the way that the Democrats have done the gerrymandering in, in basically the whole country, they have really maximized everywhere they can. We showed a map the other day of kind of who bet who looks to benefit the most if there's, you know, gerrymandering and, and the Republicans have a lot of room. There's a lot of places where they can change the, the congressional maps and actually benefit a lot. The Democrats maybe could squeak out three or four more seats, but if the Republicans are like, we're going to go, we're going to fight this and we're going to fight fire with fire and we're going to do a bunch of gerrymandering too. Look, they're, they can, can produce a whole Lot more seats than, than Democrats can, because the Democrats have been so effective in the past. Not saying that Republicans haven't done it, because of course they have, but the Democrats have really been able to maximize it. So I think that, that I feel like that's something that Donald Trump is aware of and it's something that he's looking to, you know, ameliorate, he's looking to fix. Because there's a lot of states that are, that don't have any representation for the conservatives. No, you get like 35, 40% of the state, like Massachusetts. Right. That's the state that I, I grew up in.35, 40% of the state went for Donald Trump. So obviously, it's clearly not a majority, clearly a majority Democrat, but there's no representation for any of the conservatives in the whole state. Massachusetts has zero Republican Republicans in the House. There's zero Republicans basically anywhere. And there's multiple states like that.
- [38:28]
Kevin Sorbo
So Minnesota's got the same problem. Minnesota, I mean, everybody I know in Minnesota is conservative. If you look, if you break into each county down, most of it's red. It's just around the Minneapolis, St. Paul area, maybe down Rochester and all kinds. But it's changed so much. My buddies are all going, I don't know what to do with this thing. But you're talking about the people moving. Everybody left California because what they've done to Democrats in that state. But a lot of these people are Democrats myself, and they leave and go into Vegas and Nevada, they go into Arizona, they go to Texas, and they still vote the same way. That's the amazing thing to me. So I don't think. No, look, I'm not that educated with all the stuff you guys are talking about either. But I think I keep more of a finger on it than the average person out there. I think they just watch, you know, the Daily News and maybe whatever, Jon Stewart, and that's where they get their news. So they don't get, I mean, a different perspective of it. I flip channels. I find it kind of interesting. We go between cnn, going to the, you know, the British, watching them. It's interesting to get three different stories on the same story. So, you know, it's, it's just a matter of people wanting to get educated with it.
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Alay Eliyahu
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That's not the itinerary we're following.
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Will
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Bon voyage.
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Phil
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Kevin Sorbo
Apply they want to. They just made up their minds and moved into the state and they wrecked it. Look, they wrecked Colorado. Look what happened to Colorado.
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Phil
And it's because of, you know, two cities basically. Boulder. Right.
- [41:06]
Kevin Sorbo
I think the easy ways. It's going to take a long time to turn us into the socialist country they want. Why don't they just go to Venezuela now? It's waiting for them.
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Tate Brown
Right?
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Kevin Sorbo
It's their utopia. Waits. Just go down there. I'll use our tax dollars that way and give them a first class flight one way.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I mean you're going to see the redistricting. There's gonna be a lot more options for red states if the SCO decides how we think they are with the race based districting case out of Louisiana. I mean. Cause there's a lot of seats that are up for grabs mostly in state houses. I mean this whole thing started because the Louisiana Senate added two black districts in Louisiana and they got sued because it's like you can't. That's just ridiculous. This is 2025. We're not going to do race based districts one way or the other. So again that'll create some opportunities for red States to, to squeeze more red districts.
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Alay Eliyahu
So the one really funny part about redistricting is that obviously it's tit for tat. So like, we'll see California now do some redistricting and we'll go back and forth. But you know who really hates this? Congress Members. Members of Congress obviously get pissed off because they're getting drawn out, both Republicans and Democrats from opposite side states. So the one silver lining here is it's really funny that a bunch of Congress people are about to get cut out and be very pissed as a result of it.
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Tate Brown
That's why you've seen a few House members from like, like Republican and Democrats all of a sudden turn into Arnold and they're like, wait, no, guys, gerrymandering is actually really bad. We need to do something.
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Alay Eliyahu
I don't blame them.
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Tate Brown
They don't care all the stuff out.
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Kevin Sorbo
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
I mean, because they know their gigs on the line and they got to start looking for.
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Kevin Sorbo
Well, that's why we need term limits. But that's another subject we can talk about.
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Alay Eliyahu
That's another thing.
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Phil
I'm not 100 sure the term limits are going to fix anything because I think that that empowers the bureaucracy. Right. I mean, I agree. You know, it's like, I love the idea, like the, the point is to be able to make sure that people aren't entrenched and, and that the, or that the representatives aren't entrenched. And that's a, that's a great goal. But I, I, I'm afraid that all that it would do is shovel more power to the bureaucracy because you got, you know, you got two terms, whatever as a senator or how many. Congress is only two years. So by the time Congress learns exactly, you know, basically how to do their job after the end of their first term, they've got two years before they're out. So I don't, I don't hate the idea, but I do think that a lot of people think, well, just throw the bums out. It's great. That sounds great, but remember, we have a problem with the bureaucracy here. We don't have a problem so much with Congress. Everybody hates Congress except for their own Congressperson. Everybody likes their own Congressperson. And poll after poll after poll show that. So as much as it, it would be great if we could just be like, well, throw the bums out. What you end up with, I think, is a lot of, of focus or a lot of, a lot more power in the bureaucracy.
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Kevin Sorbo
And this is the, that's, this is.
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Phil
The map we were talking about the other day in Chris Aliza, who is not a pro Trump guy, he's talking about in a redistricting war, Republicans would win and they would win by a lot. Like, there's a lot of room for Republicans to grow. So if the Democrats want to do this, if they want to actually try to be like, oh, well, we'll, we'll redistrict and we'll show you, that's a terrible strategy. They just don't have the room to grow the way that Republicans do. So, I mean, look, I'm not for this kind of redistricting war, but if the Democrats want to, they're going to lose. Yeah, this is, this is the reality that they have to face. So I honestly, I think that, I think that they're, they're just posturing because I think that the smart Democrats know this. So I think that it's all just them trying to, you know, trying to, to frighten people or trying to, to posture conservatives.
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Tate Brown
I mean, I think this is an inevitability because we're just seeing any. And I'm not saying this is inherently a good thing because often when you hear bipartisan actually means you're about to get screwed over, but I think it's, this has been the direction we're heading for a while is any sense of bipartisanship would be going out the window. And I think to a certain degree states that did, you know, allow the opposing party a few seats. I think gerrymandering is going to really, really become the new standard. Squeeze as many of the opposing party seats out as possible. I think as a country, we're just gonna be divided further and further. So I don't think this is really surprising whatsoever. This is just like a natural direction we were going in pretexts for escalation.
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Alay Eliyahu
When a Democrat inevitably gets back in, they'll run on this and say the Republicans are destroying our democracy by redistricting mid decade. And we have to do add more states as a result of this. We have to pack the court because the judges that Trump put in were illegitimate.
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Phil
It.
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Alay Eliyahu
And that's what will. And they'll use this as the pretext.
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Phil
I, I do think that you are right. They will use this as the pretext, but I don't think, I think that when they get back in, when and if they get back into power, they will do all the things that we talked about, regardless of whether conservatives do this, because there's no, there's no reason for them to not.
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Tate Brown
I mean, they're convinced. They're convinced to speak to your average median Democrat. They're convinced that Trump, Trump is trying to institute the Fourth Reich in the United States. So obviously they're gonna, you know, try to make Puerto Rico a state or whatever, because it's like they're convinced they're in a movie and that they're like the Rebel Alliance.
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Phil
Ever since, basically Barack Obama, they thought that, okay, the Democrats are now going to control the government. We're going, the real competition is going to be who gets to be the Democrat nominee. The Republicans are going to be just a regional party. They're not ever going to have serious power again. They, you know, erroneously thought that, and they got really complacent. And then they met Donald Trump as a candidate and everything changed. And one of the things that happens when it comes to the Democrats is if they lose ground, they don't just say, oh, well, we'll get them next time. They literally freak out. That's why everyone was so apoplectic when Donald Trump won. That's why you saw people, the, the leftists in, in D.C. literally screaming. When Donald Trump was inaugurated on the 20th, 20th January, 2017, they were absolutely besides themselves because they thought that they had a permanent power base. They thought that they would not ever lose control. And they thought from here on out, it was whatever progressives and Democrats wanted. And to lose that power, they don't know how to deal with it because it's not just a matter of, okay, hey, next time we'll, we'll adjust our message and we'll go to the people and we'll make a better argument. No, no, no. They're not interested in making arguments. They're interested in expanding the court. They're interested in ending the Electoral College, and they're interested in adding states. That's not what you do when you lose in a democracy. What you do is say, we need to get, make our arguments better. We need to convince the American people why these things are right and we need to change our platform. So that way the American people want to vote for us, but they're not interested in doing that. That they don't have any, they have not done any soul searching. Maybe Gavin Newsome did, because Gavin Newsom's out there doing the, the podcasts and, and stuff, and he's got a good media team, so maybe there are a handful of them, but the vast majority of the influential Democrats have done no soul searching. They're not interested in doing that. They're interested in doing whatever they can to put Donald Trump in jail, which they, they tried. They are, they will do all these things should they get back into power. They will do the, you know, expand the core, all that stuff. That stuff is definitely coming. And I personally think that they'll do a whole lot more. I think that they'll look to put people like, like Tim Pool or people that are conservatives that have a, have an influential voice. They'll put those people in jail. They'll do everything they can to make sure that you can't, you know, they'll, they'll have the DOJ and say, oh, this is, we've got this thing on you. Because they did it to Donald Trump. Trump, and it almost worked. If, if they get back into power, they'll do it again. And they will be, they'll do it with 2, 3 times, 10 times the force because they believe that they are entitled to power, they are entitled to be in charge, they are entitled to rule, and they will smash their political opponents. I, I don't think that there's a big, there's a, there's a compelling argument against that. And I do think you're right a lot. I think you're, you're completely, 100% dead on. But I don't think that not doing these things will prevent them. I think that the die has already been cast as soon as they get into power. And I mean, they've talked about all those things so many times, they're gonna do it.
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Alay Eliyahu
It's funny you named Job Newsom because I think he said he'd draw out all but one Republican in California. I think he said something along those lines. And I mean, the incentive structure is set up such that if he wants to run for president down the line, this is what he should be doing. Right. The Democrats wan. One of their own so called fighting back against the president. And Gavin's doing just that.
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Phil
Yeah.
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Alay Eliyahu
And he's a handsome, he's a handsome.
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Kevin Sorbo
Guy, so you should vote for him.
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Alay Eliyahu
I'm not a Californian.
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Kevin Sorbo
No, I know. It's just funny. I mean, you know, here's the guy who can't quit any water in the fire hydrants. And it's a guy that's the, you know, the number one salesman for U Haul. But it's just really weird for me that this guy's able to, he'll run. He'll be the guy he put out there.
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Alay Eliyahu
He'll probably be the nominee.
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Kevin Sorbo
But how do they think that, how do they think they can get the message, message across and they put Harris and Biden in office because those people can't talk their way out of anything. I mean, it was amazing to me that, well, did they really get in office? But that's another thing we could talk about.
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Phil
Our boy Tate here has got a great point that he likes to make, and that's people vote on vibes.
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Tate Brown
America is a very vibes based country. And evidence for this is Gavin Newsom's adoption of Trump's mannerisms and his tweeting style, which is hilarious because. Because it's kind of. There's two concessions happening there. The first concession is Gavin Newsom in the left, broadly conceding that America, Trump embodies America so well, that his style of communication embodies like an American style of communication, and that they're conceding that he's funny and that it's a really funny way of communicating. So they're not even really mocking Trump when they're using tweets and stuff. They're almost just saying like, yeah, this is a really funny way to talk. And then the second concession is that that they've gone too far in the anti American direction, that they, they're seen as anti patriotic. And exhibit A for this was in Gavin Newsome state during the LA riots when they're flying Mexican flags everywhere in Guatemala, Nicaragua and da, da, da, da. As they started begging these protesters to fly American flags because they're like, guys, I know you're A.D. you're doing something really anti American, but at least like have the pretense make it look patriotic, start waving American flags around, that sort of thing. So there's two concessions.
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Kevin Sorbo
They're all passing them around. They went in there with flags.
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Tate Brown
They know how bad it looks.
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Alay Eliyahu
You know, Newsom does give off chill white guy vibes, if you will. And Democrats are trying to win that vote back over because they lost it in the previous election. So I think that's what they're going back to, trying to get back some of the white vote. And he gives, you know, he's a good white face, if you will.
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Tate Brown
After Kamala got whooped like that, the DNC is going to look like a vineyard vines ad next 2028. I mean, it's going to be like, like it's going to be like white boy central, because, I mean, that gives off those vibes. Yeah, yeah. At least that's what the establishment. I mean, dude, they're like, there's these elect bros on Twitter and they're like begging Democrats to consider Andy Bashir because they're just, they just want to win so bad and they know the way to do that is they put up just like a normal, normal, like, white guy. Because, I mean, they literally DEI'd Kamala. Like, Biden literally said, I'm going to nominate a black woman for vice president.
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Alay Eliyahu
Was it? No, that was her qualification during the COVID pandemic. It was him. It was new.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, he was.
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Alay Eliyahu
That's such a white boy thing to do. Like, during the pandemic. Oh, I need to take my girl out to the fancy restaurant still and I get caught there. Of course I took my wife here. What do you expect? Like, I still got. Yeah, I still got to put on for her.
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Tate Brown
There's almost, There is almost a distinctively.
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Alay Eliyahu
Like an arrogant white guy. That's such an arrogant white guy thing to do in a positive way.
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Tate Brown
There's like a distinctively American quality of just being like, like, just this, like greased hair, like slime. Like, I'll do anything to like, win. Like, there is like a weird Machiavellian that's like, all right, granted, he's like basically a communist, so that it kind of, that kind of falls short, but there is something refreshing about a guy that is so evil that he's like, I'll say whatever to win. He's honest about it. He's like Patrick Bateman of politics. Yeah.
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Phil
You need to say something. I was gonna say it's dago coated.
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Tate Brown
It's. It's very.
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Ryan Seacrest
Oh, yeah.
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Tate Brown
He's gonna get up there and lie to your face and get a coma.
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Phil
If you. Now you, if you look at the picture of everybody's blonde and blue eyed, that is. That is waspy as hell.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Phil
And to be honest with you, I don't know that the left. I really don't know that the left, especially in a primary, and we've probably talked about this a little bit, but I really don't think the left can bring themselves to vote for such a waspy looking guy.
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Alay Eliyahu
Well, I mean, they did with Biden.
- [53:53]
Phil
Biden. But they did with Biden and it took the.
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Alay Eliyahu
If you really believe that he won that in kosher. What?
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Phil
I don't. I personally.
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Alay Eliyahu
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That's not the itinerary we're following.
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Alay Eliyahu
Lie that's a conversation for I think.
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Phil
That, I think it was a novel election and I think that if it were not for the fact that there were ballots mailed to everybody and there were there was ballot harvesting, Biden would not win. I honestly, I don't, I don't know that.
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Alay Eliyahu
Bring a rabbi in to see if that election was kosher.
- [55:43]
Phil
I don't, I don't think that. I'm not sure. Well, I don't know that I think but I am curious as to whether Democrats can win at all. Should they actually go to same day paper ballot?
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Kevin Sorbo
That's what they should do. And you know, more mail and voting. It's ridiculous. Yeah, I would love to not racist to show an id. I mean there's all kinds of stuff we can talk about here. It just drives me crazy.
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Phil
Start at 8 in the morning. The polls close at 8 at night.
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Kevin Sorbo
They do other countries.
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Phil
It's what they do in Florida. If you look at Florida, they have their S together when it comes to.
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Tate Brown
The way India knocks it out.
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Alay Eliyahu
No, I will say this guys because I know I feel as though mail in ballots might be getting a bad rap because of the previous election but I think they might actually skew to help Republicans because Republicans tend to skew older and if you skew older on election day. If there's something that gets in your way or there's bad weather, old people are less likely to vote. And if you give them a week or so to kind of send in a mail in ballot ahead of time. I understand the security concerns, importance of it, but I do feel as though it actually biases towards Democrats to have it only be if there's honest voting.
- [56:55]
Kevin Sorbo
I mean, there's. People are filling these things in by the thousands and stuffing them in. I mean, there's video footage. 2000 Mules is a very interesting documentary. Sure. That Dinesh put out there.
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean, all this is, I think we're just putting band aids on bullet holes. And I think the Trump administration is aware of this and that's why they're cracking down on the immigration stuff so hard. Because birthright citizenship is still on the books. SCOTUS still hasn't gotten rid of it, and I don't know if they can. I hope so. So it's like we're just looking at a ticking clock because there's still tens of millions of illegal immigrants in this country that are having children. And those children will vote Democrat because, I mean, they feel victimized by the Trump administration. Of course they're gonna have a chip on their shoulder.
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Alay Eliyahu
Hey, who knows? The President Trump's been winning over a lot of these Hispanic voters. And the districts that he's redrawing in tax Texas are actually. There's so many Hispanics on those border towns that you've reduced.
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Tate Brown
These are, these are Tejanos that have been there for four or five.
- [57:46]
Alay Eliyahu
What does that mean?
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Phil
I don't know what it.
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Tate Brown
It's like Mexican Americans in Texas that have been there for generations because you can tell because Hispanics in California vote like 70, 30 Democrat while Hispanics in Texas are now voting Republican. But the big difference, it's the Hispanics aren't this, you know, monolith is because the Hispanics and Texas have been there for generations. Right? I mean, many of them can trace their lineage from before the Texas revolution versus California. They've all arrived in the last two generations.
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Alay Eliyahu
I do feel like there is this growing brand of Hispanic that is also increasingly anti immigrant, even towards other Mexicans that wanna keep American great again, that are based Mexicans that don't wanna get taken advantage of, who came in the legal way and see those other people taking advantage and feel like they got the short end of the stick.
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Kevin Sorbo
So I know many, I agree with you. I know many. When I lived in la, I know, many of those guys metal, quite a few of them saying the exact same thing you just said now.
- [58:38]
Tate Brown
Well, it was really funny because the Republicans from like Reagan on, they made this bet that they could import Hispanic labor, but somehow they would convince them to vote Republican through like emphasizing free market values or maybe saying, oh, they're Catholic, they're naturally conservative. And it didn't really work. And then Trump came along and didn't pander at all. He's just like, hey, we're gonna make America great. If you wanna make America great with me, you can. I'm not even gonna translate that in Spanish. Just figure it out. And they're like, oh, great, you're treating me like a human being. Yeah, I'll vote for you. You and is like, you don't need to pander to these people. You just need to present a compelling future for the United States and they'll be along with that. You don't need to treat them like idiots. What if the Democrats, if you want to be treated like an idiot because of your race, you can vote for the Democrats. Who would have thought?
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Phil
Yeah. We're going to jump to this story now from the Hill. Hillary Clinton. The Supreme Court will do to gay marriage what they did to abortion. That that might actually check true. Hillary Clinton 2016 Democrat presidential nominee and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says she believes the the Supreme Court is poised to overturn its landmark ruling in Obergefell vs. Hodge, which effectively legalized same sex marriage nationwide and that unmarried same sex couples ought to consider tying the knot. American voters, and to some extent the American media don't understand how many years the Republicans have been working in order to get us to this point. Clinton told Fox News host Jessica Tarlov on Friday in a wide ranging interview on Raging Mobile Moderates, the podcast Tarlov co host with Scott Galloway Neither of those people are moderates. It took 50 years to overturn Roe v. Wade. Clinton said the Supreme Court will hear a case about gay marriage. My prediction is they will do to gay marriage what they did to abortion. They will send it back to the states. Look, it did take 50 years to overturn Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade was a terribly decided, you know, decision. Even, even Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that it was, it was a bad decision and the Republicans still did it the right way. And this goes to our point earlier about the way that Democrats will exercise power versus the Republicans. Republicans and the libertarians are generally pretty guilty of this as well. They will do the thing that they're supposed to do and go through the process in order to get the result that they want. 50 years they worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and finally got it back in front of the scotus. When the SCOTUS had the makeup in a way that they would find in favor of putting abortion in the state's hands, they didn't even get them to say abortion must be illegal nationwide. All they did was say, we want it. You put it back in the state's hands. Hand hands. That took them forever. Because the Republicans will do that. The Democrats have no compunction with just grabbing power in any means necessary. And I personally think that the Republicans should behave in a similar fashion now. And I understand that you, you have apprehension or this is, you know, there's apprehensions that you have and they're legitimate.
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Alay Eliyahu
But yeah, it's not exactly apprehensions. It's just understanding, like, cause and effect. Like, I don't want to be blind to the potential backlash that, that that's going to come here. Go on.
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Phil
I think that this is, this is the example that I'm. Or the reason I bring this example up is because it doesn't actually, it's not actually a cause and effect. The cause that you're saying isn't what's going to cause democracy isn't what's going to make Democrats do this. The Democrats are going to do this because they don't care about process. They don't care about anything other than amassing power and keeping it.
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Alay Eliyahu
It's. It's a fascinating conversation to have because I feel like Democrats would argue the same thing of Republic. The larger point I think is Democrats.
- [62:23]
Phil
Argue that men can become women.
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Alay Eliyahu
I agree with you. It's just a very dumb argument that many of them make, and I obviously think they're very wrong. One thing I wanted to point out here, though, is like, a reason that this is even a possibility is because there is a conservative majority on the Supreme Court right now. Why is there a majority on the Supreme Court right now? I know a lot of us might not talk about it because Mitch McConnell actually very skillfully allowed this majority to happen. And one of the big points that Democrats actually harp on about and complain about the Supreme Court being illegitimate on is that they the seat open that was originally gonna go to Merrick Garland during the end of the Obama administration, but instead he didn't hold a vote on that seat and eventually Trump won the election. And then he filled the seat with Neil Gorsuch, who was able to be confirmed through the Mitch McConnell led Senate, so all of this is really coming to fruition because of that. But Democrats, again, would argue that they need to pack the supreme court, because Mitch McConnell did that, and Neil Gorsuch's appointment was illegitimate because they held that spot open during the end of the Obama term. So all of that's to say is that depending on which party you're from, you could point to different things and try to argue that things are legitimate or illegitimate. I also wanna say I think it's a fascinating political strategy by the Trump administration, too, by you're overturning these laws, but you're not setting them, and you're letting the states decide instead. So they overturned Roe v. Wade, but they didn't decide to make abortion illegal across the country. Country. And they're going to follow that same blueprint here. So it seems with gay marriage, and again, I think attitudes are changing surrounding gay marriage, but more than anything, this is a pushback against the excesses of the LGBTQ community. This is a pushback in regards to Drag Queen story hours, to the trans issues. People are just saying this has gone way too far, and this is ultimately the results. Even though I don't think that many people have a problem with gay marriage. I think gay marriage or marriage should be a religious institution, but we're far off from that. I know I just said a lot. Do either of you have any thoughts?
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean, I think Obergefell, if you're frustrated with the transgender ideology, if you're frustrated with Drag Queen story hour, you can't just ratchet back the LGBT movement to an earlier stage and not expect the same result. Because with Obergefell, what happened is, in the eyes of the state, gender became interchangeable because prior to that, marriage was a man and a woman. Gay marriage becomes the standard. It becomes the view in the government's eyes now that you can swap a male out for a female and it's still a marriage. So the transgender movement started when this happened, because that's when, in the eyes of the state, gender became interchangeable. And it was, you know, men, women, who cares?
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Alay Eliyahu
Just I don't know if there's a gay consensus on the trans issue. I'm sure there are many older gays who believe. Is that the right way to call them?
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Kevin Sorbo
Sure.
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Alay Eliyahu
Queer. Older gays.
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Phil
Queer is an identity. They're just gays.
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Alay Eliyahu
Older gay men who, you know, came up when they were younger and fought for their right to get married and now see the excesses of the left, and now they see people become more frustrated with their community, might hold resentment towards some of these ultra progressives or ultra gays who go further in the lgbtqia.
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean. I mean, it's great that they have their critiques, but if. If they. If they don't, if they see that as an excess, it's like, well, you only have yourself to blame. Like, you can't. You can't let a little bit in and not expect to get the whole. The whole package. So it's like, you know, if you.
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Alay Eliyahu
Didn'T gatekeep hard enough.
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Tate Brown
Well, it's not. You can't. You can't gatekeep an ideology. It's either you. Either you have it or you don't. Like I said, you can't just ratchet it back to an earlier stage, not expect a similar result. It's like. And in this case, it only took them 10 years to get to where we're at now. I mean, they just put their foot on the gas. So, I mean, rightfully Americans, even if they haven't thought about the philosophical implications of gender becoming interchangeable in the eyes of the state, still, the average American has the right now to be skeptical of anything the LGBT community wants to do. Because you're saying, well, you guys blew it. You did 15 years, and now there's drag queen story hours and transgender nonsense.
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Alay Eliyahu
Kevin, do you have any trans characters in any of your upcoming movies?
- [66:23]
Kevin Sorbo
None that I'm aware of. If they are, they're pretty damn good at what they're looking at.
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Alay Eliyahu
I mean, characters are based around that story.
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Kevin Sorbo
No, not really. I mean, I tend. I have no problem with it. Look, almost every movie I've ever been on, every television show I've ever worked on, there's been somebody gay or lesbian, on the set. I don't care. I personally don't care what people do with their lives in terms of their sexual lives or whatever like that. I think what you mentioned with the religious world, I mean, the marriage comes from the Bible between a man and a woman. That's what it is. So to me, if you want to appease sort of the religious culture crowd, just, you know, get married, but call it something else, call it a union, I don't care. Get the same rights, get the same tax benefits. I have no problem with that. That's why. I mean, just by being a conservative myself and being a Christian, am I perfect in any of those things? Not at all. But I get attacked all the time in the Internet saying, I'm this and that now, then go where's your proof. Find one gay person. I've been in the business 45 years. I've worked gay people all my for 5 decades. Find one that says he was so mean to me on this set. He was rude, he was, he was an a hole. I mean all this. You won't find one. But they love their labels, they love their attack, they love just go after and they have nothing, no proof behind it whatsoever. I could care less. But once again, just, you know, it's, it's just constant.
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Alay Eliyahu
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Will
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Alay Eliyahu
That'S not the itinerary we're following.
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Will
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Kevin Sorbo
Bon voyage.
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Kevin Sorbo
The power the Alphabet crowd has to sit there and force all this stuff down saying this is normal now, this is normal now. You know, do what you want to do but don't sit there and try to change the definition of things. I mean we used to call somebody that is, you know, that has changed their sex. We used to say mental illness. Now we're supposed to just accept that as normal. It, it Isn't normal.
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Alay Eliyahu
Do you believe that the overturning of Obergefell would be excessive? An excessive backlash from conservatives?
- [69:27]
Kevin Sorbo
I don't, I don't know. I mean if I. To me it's, to me you're looking at this. I look at Chuck Schumer. I got to say this for a second because I got a big kick out. I'm saying we got to make these 20 million. I don't know how many millions came across. I heard 10 million 15 and 20 million came across during business Biden's term. So you hear all. We have to make them all legal right now because we got to replenish our workforce. And I said, well you got rid of the workforce with Roe v. Wade. You killed 65 million human lives. I do a lot of pro life speaking. It's a human life. There's a heartbeat of 22 days. So that's 65 million. How many more millions would have been born out of those people born in the 70s, 80s and 90s? We probably got rid of 100 million people in this country.
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Tate Brown
25% of Gen Z not to get side. It's unbelievable of Gen Z was a aborted. I mean, I mean that's your labor crisis right there.
- [70:11]
Kevin Sorbo
It's unbelievable what they've done. And these are what would have been educated people coming in the country, not people that were coming from poor countries with worse education we got coming in here. They're not going to be the ones filling up the workforce in a, in a positive way with engineers and everything like that. And it's, it's, we're changing this faces country so quickly right now.
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Tate Brown
Well there's just, there's just clearly like you said, there's a, it's, it's a border. It feels, feels anti human. What's happening, this restructuring of our country at every level from our culture to our institutions to everything. And like I mean that's kind of the same thing. What we're talking about here is like the Obergefell was a. Is a shot fired by these anti human people because they want to get the government to redefine what gender is. That was the idea is they want men and women to be interchangeable and means nothing because that's the point of liberalism. Liberalism is blank slate theory. Theory. And what is more restrictive than having a gender? Because that defines a lot of your characteristics.
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Phil
So this is, this is actually something that I've actually had disagreeing with Marion. I don't think that gender is even a real thing. Right. Like your, your Biological sex is. So. Yeah, but it, but it matters. It matters because what is. When you ask someone what is gender? It's. It's essentially the way that they describe it. It's your sexual spirit. Spirit. Right. And, and so, and the reason that I, like I said Mary and I have a disagreement because she believes that human beings have a spirit, have a soul, and that they're, that the soul is gendered. I, as an agnostic, don't really have that same sense. And I think that your sex, your biological sex is the only thing that matters. Your gender doesn't matter. And as long as you're. As if your biological sex is the deciding factor, then all this gender nonsense, nonsense can be disregarded and oh, well, you know, it's. It'. Fine because their gender is interchangeable or gender can be changed. That is all just a, an innovation in the past, whatever, 50, 60 years. And if we were, if we had a government that said, no, your sex is what's important and we don't even address gender, then you can actually get around all the stuff that you're talking about because you, you have a great point. You're, you're totally right. The way that the LGBTQIA groups have, have made people understand or convince people to understand this, this innovation called gender, is that it is something that isn't actually tied to your body. It's not tied to your biology. And that's wrong. There are anomalies. There are people that, that are less masculine and more masculine that are men, and there are women that are more masculine and less masculine. But by and large, men are far more masculine than women. Women, Women have certain traits that generally apply to their, to women and men have certain traits that generally apply to men. And it's, it, it's, it is enough where you can safely say this is how men are, this is how women are. And of course, there's some anomalies. But without that, that the idea of gender, without the innovation of gender, gender, you actually circumvent all that stuff.
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean, I, I think gender is one to one with sex. I mean, broadly speaking, it directly correlates. But I mean, obviously if you're agnostic, then I think at that point you should just view them in like synonyms effectively or just like you said, disregard gender entirely.
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Phil
But when you talk.
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Tate Brown
I'm, I could have said sex for my entire rant and my point would have been the same.
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Phil
But when you talk to the, the, when you talk to the, the crits, right? The gender crits, the the right critical gender theorists.
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Tate Brown
Sure.
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Phil
You take away the whole foundation of all of their theory when you don't acknowledge gender.
- [73:54]
Tate Brown
Yeah, I mean, like, and I understand.
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Phil
What you're saying, but they don't look at it the same way you do. They look at gender as different. They think gender. They think that gender changes. That's why you get people that say, well, you know, right now my gender feels this way, but in two hours after I have a meal, my gender might be different. You know?
- [74:11]
Tate Brown
Sure.
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Phil
And that comes from the idea.
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Kevin Sorbo
Interesting.
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Phil
That comes from the idea that gender is something that is more akin to a spirit than something that is tied to your biology. And we should. We should abandon that idea.
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Tate Brown
I mean, that's totally fair. I mean, like, for my entire rant I had earlier, I could have just said sex instead and it would have been the exact same point I'm trying to make. All I'm trying to say is if you have frustration with the drag queens, with the transgenders, this has to go. Obergefell has to go. And that you need the state to reorient around men and women as separate entities and respect those differences instead of just trying to turn us into blank slates.
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Alay Eliyahu
Kevin, I wanted to ask. There's a narrative that Hollywood advances a lot of the so called LGBTQIA agenda. As someone who's in the space, can you confirm or deny how true that is? Or are these just groups of people working together? Have you heard that stuff? What do you make of it?
- [75:02]
Kevin Sorbo
This really just. This is new to me. Over the last 10 years, maybe, or something like that. Hollywood booted me out. I'm the first cancel culture victim before it became a term manager. And agents said because of things you're posting on the Internet about COVID and things. I was posting the truth. Of course. I got, I got blacklisted from Hollywood. That's why my wife and I formed Sorbo Studios. We're doing our own movies, independent movies, and I do movies that Hollywood used to do. They're not necessarily faith based. I think every movie is a faith based. If you're an atheist, that's a pretty strong faith to believe in. Absolutely nothing is a really strong faith. So to me, it's like, I want to do movies that have hope and love and redemption. It doesn't have to be be. You better believe in God. I just want to do nice movies that Hollywood used to do instead of the woke insanity they're doing. I mean, I think over a billion dollars is what Disney's looking at this year. As, as a loss. So to me, I, I never, I was well aware of, I mean, it's the conservatives that are in the closet now. The gays are fully out of the class in Hollywood.
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Alay Eliyahu
Feels like the conservatives are out of the closet too, nowadays.
- [76:00]
Kevin Sorbo
Well, not in Hollywood. You'd be so surprised. I mean, every movie I've been doing the last six, seven years, I'll get another actor. I'll get a, I'll get a hair person, a director, a film, you know, a light guy. Come up to me quietly like we're doing a drug deal and say, hey, thanks for being a voice for us. And I go, be a voice for yourself. Well, I'll get blacklisted like you. And it has hurt people's careers. I know a number of big name actors that are conservative. I'm not going to name them because they said, well, I don't want to happen to me what happened to you. But I said, look, I'm still making movies. Hollywood doesn't call me anymore. I've always found a childhood. Who cares? I might. I don't get angry if someone's gay. I don't get angry if someone's a liberal. I don't, I don't be what you want to be. But they, they have the power in Hollywood. So they do no longer let me read for any movies or any TV shows. I gotta find my own independent projects. And to me they're like seventh grade mean girls. It's so immature and so childish that they don't work with me just because I happen to be a conservative. It's weird to me, but the parties have shifted. I tell my liberal friends, look at JFK's inauguration speech in 1960 and find one Democrat who talks that way today.
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Alay Eliyahu
You won't find it even as recently as Bill Clinton. I feel like you'd be a conservative now.
- [77:09]
Kevin Sorbo
Look, I, the second time around I voted for Clinton. The second time around I didn't. The first time around, I mean, he won. It was the lowest bunnies that anybody's ever won a percentage, right?38 or something. Because Ross was in there. Yeah, but I thought, you know what? Guy did a good job and I voted for him. I wouldn't vote for Hillary. That was, was, that was like she's on the devil's lap. He's laughing.
- [77:29]
Tate Brown
Well, I mean, it was even the 2008 Democrat nomination where they were accusing each other of being pro gay marriage, which was, which is hilarious. I mean, that just shows you how quickly this evolved specifically, but how quickly democrats radicalized within 15, 20 years. I mean, Republicans, there's all these, they showed these like, graphs where it's like, look at the polarization. The Democrats went this way and the Republicans went this way. And I'm like, the Republicans are just tracking back to how they were in the 90s. I mean, the average Republican, if you, if you see how an average Republican.
- [78:00]
Kevin Sorbo
Shifted to the left.
- [78:01]
Tate Brown
Exactly. Yeah. The average Republican, 1992. I mean, Pat Buchanan was a formidable candidate and presidential elections, and he was fantastic. And he outflanks every Republican to the right right now. And this is supposedly the most radical Republican Party in history. It's like, well, 1992. I mean, look, look at. Yeah, like Pat Buchanan, who's a genius, by the way.
- [78:18]
Phil
Yeah. The idea that the Republican Party right now is the most radical clever is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at the way that Republicans or the way that anyone talked prior to World War II.
- [78:30]
Tate Brown
Oh, yeah.
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Phil
That just, I mean, essentially it would make today's Democrats and a lot of today's Republicans just, you know, shiver in fear and, and say, you can't say that. You can't say that. You can't say that. Things like talking about race the way that they used to talk about race, like, absolutely not. But we're going to jump to this story right now from the Post Millennial Neil Eric Adams slammed Zohran Mamdani over socialists push for legalized prostitution. Mayor Eric Adams has slammed socialist candidate for New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani as the candidate has pushed to decriminalize prostitution. There is a difference between decriminalize and legalize, and I'm not sure which one they're talking about because decriminalize is just not effectively legalized.
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Tate Brown
You can get a business license.
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Phil
Well, yeah, but they, but also that it starts to involve the, the courts. I'm sorry, involve the government. It wouldn't be. You can get like, they would require a license.
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Tate Brown
It's regulated, it's on the books. Decriminalized just means you won't go to jail.
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Alay Eliyahu
Making it legalized allows it to be legally commercial and have the full power of legal markets and legal capital capitalism behind it, as opposed to decriminalization where it'll still not be regulated. Have their markets and I under.
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Phil
I imagine that Zohran would not want. Want it legalized that he would want to decriminalize because I, I imagine that he is not interested in making it something that capitalism can exploit for what, however, he would would, you know, presume to be anyways. I can't be more clear. I'm a man of God. Just as Mamdani says he's a Muslim. I don't know where in his Quran it states that it's okay for a woman to be on the street selling their body. Adam told reporters, I don't know what Quran he's reading. It's not my Bible. He added, as a man who said he is of faith, I don't quite understand what religion supports prostitution. Mamdani, who claims to be a believing Muslim, has taken up the issue on multiple occasions since he ran for New York city assembly in 2020, according to the New York Post. Prostitution is also very much against the tenants of Islam. I think he's lost face in the faith, in the fact that sex trafficking is very much a part of prostitution. Adams added in his comments. We are trying to bring down crime and he's talking about legalizing sex work. You're not doing any service to a woman who's on the street, who is forced to sell her body for whatever reason. He added, no one should be on our streets selling their bodies. No one. Mamdani, aside from other left wing policy, has he has proposed during his campaign, such as freezing rents, government run grocery stores and raising the minimum wage to $30 an hour, has co sponsored legislation in the New York assembly that would legalize prostitution across the city. If that is his belief, it is a danger for our city. Adam said in his comments. Our city needs to be a safe city. It should not be a city where women are standing on corners or boys are standing on corners, or young men standing on corners selling their bodies. Look man, the idea that Zohran Momdani would not turn New York City in of today into New York, New York City of 1979 through 85, I think that idea has, has sailed. And I think that if you institute Zoran's policies or the policies that he's. He's talked about, I think that that's inevitable. I mean, doesn't that seem to be the case?
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Kevin Sorbo
Yeah, I mean, you go back to those decades, that time it was pretty scary. New York City was not a good place. We walk around. I love the fact that some people say they miss that time, that they miss the, the seediness of the city that way.
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Phil
But it was so real back then.
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Kevin Sorbo
It was so real. It was so real. The danger was excellent. But. But look where they're at right now. I mean, look what's happening in that city right now and look at the number of people have left. I mean I escaped California seven years ago. I live in this free state of Florida and the number of when Covid hit, the number of people that came down from Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, New Jersey just flooded. New flooded and really when I first got there. This is interesting about Florida. I know segwaying a little bit here but Florida was used to be a swing state, right? It ain't anymore. There's when I got there.
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Kevin Sorbo
I think there was 300,000 more Democrats registered seven years ago. Now it's like 800,000 more Republicans registered. It's no longer a swing state.
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Alay Eliyahu
Yeah, what I believe was extremely effective in this Eric Adams attack is that I don't know if he did it purposefully or not, but he took a note out of Solinsky's Rules for Radicals. There's a far less leftist who made a political strategy book, but one of the specific things he's using here is make them Live by their own rules, expose the hypocrisy and inconsistencies in the opponent's stated principles and actions, and prostitution is not consistent with the beliefs in Islam. I don't think this is the only inconsistency that exists within his policy proposals, but I think that's what will make this such an effective, potent attack. And I think Mayor Adams should continue attacking Mamdani in this fashion. However, ultimately, I don't think this would lead him to be successful in the race. He's polling at half of what Andrew Cuomo's polling at. He's polling her out nearly what the Republican candidate, Curtis Sliwa, who should also probably drop out. And we'll see if President Trump decides to get involved one way or another in the race to. Ultimately, if these guys ultimately wanna stop Moudani, they will need to put their egos aside. I know I'm asking a lot of a politician there to put their egos aside because I ultimately doubt either will because again, all these guys have extremely huge egos. One other tidbit I wanted to say here is that if we do get to the point where prostitution is legalized, it would be such an unfortunate state of the market for the women in our country. If we make the most lucrative thing in our country that a woman could do be prostitution. If a woman has no skills and a young. 18, 19, 20, 23, three, whatever. And the most lucrative thing that a young woman like this can do is go into prostitution. I don't want to make the incentive structure such that for young women to highly incentivize them to do so. And by legalizing prostitution, that's what we would effectively be doing in our country.
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Phil
I don't know.
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Alay Eliyahu
And there's a huge moral hazard.
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Phil
I don't know that it would be actually the most lucrative thing that they can do.
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Alay Eliyahu
I mean, like a young unskilled woman.
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Tate Brown
Fans is like instant millionaire.
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Phil
No, it's not the average.
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Tate Brown
A lot of these.
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Phil
No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. The average only fans girl.
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Kevin Sorbo
Oh.
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Phil
Makes like $150. There are exceptions, but they. They average like $150 much. And then when you think. If you're talking about street walkers, they're not making a lot of money. They're not.
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Alay Eliyahu
I think.
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Tate Brown
I think like New Zealand, the Netherlands, they actually do make quite a bit of money.
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Phil
That's not street walkers.
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Tate Brown
Those are. That's. That's what happens when prostitution becomes regulated.
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Alay Eliyahu
And so brothels, massage parlor, escorts, it's a much more lucrative job for most unskilled women compared to what they would do otherwise. And if that's what the fact of the matter is, then we're setting up young women to be taken advantage of. And if we want to prevent a whole generation of young women getting involved in this, work for the money.
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Phil
Look, I could be wrong, but I don't think that it's actually that lucrative for the average woman.
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Tate Brown
Not the average compared to the low end versus like a fry cook or something, then probably, yeah.
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Alay Eliyahu
I mean, if you're a cashier or you're, you know, like, there's a lot of unskilled labor if you're a cashier and you're attractive.
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Phil
But, like, the idea that you can be a cash, like an unattractive woman is not going to be pulling in a lot of money. Like, I, I, I. And again, I don't, I, I don't know.
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Alay Eliyahu
I don't know if I want to get into the market in the numbers. I suspect women in massage parlors can make a lot more money being prostitutes and giving massages.
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Phil
Like, I know that they're.
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Alay Eliyahu
You're reading in between the lines.
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Kevin Sorbo
Yes.
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Tate Brown
New York City. New York City is already, to a degree, decriminalized prostitution. Because the rub and tugs, the women are not prosecuted. They only prosecute the pimps and the owners. And I forget, most of those women.
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Phil
Are trafficked, aren't they? They tend to be.
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Tate Brown
They're often, yeah, they're often foreign. They're often trafficked, but they don't prosecute the women anymore. You know, whatever. I don't, I don't, I've never looked into if that actually helps crack down or if that helps improve the standards. I doubt it. I doubt that actually improves anyone's lives. You should probably just decriminalize the. Or, sorry, you should probably criminalize every aspect of prostitution. They're everywhere. In Queens especially. I mean, it gets bad. I'm not, you know, an expert on the locations, but it's, it's, there's kind of running jokes. Like, I think it's what Northern Avenue in Queens is like, just this, you know, open air, like prostitution. I mean, it looks like Amsterdam. Like, it's crazy. It's very prevalent. And no, it's just like, like a lot of saying is, like, just in general, having prostitution being lucrative to any degree is just such a tragic reflection on your society. And I think the last thing you want to do is like, enfranchise that in any, any way, any meaningful way.
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Phil
I just don't imagine that, you know, the, the making prostitution legal. Making makes it lucrative. I feel like it is the kind of thing that. I feel like it's the kind of thing that, like, you go into only if you have to. Because there's not.
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Kevin Sorbo
It's.
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Phil
There's not a lot of money. It's dangerous. Even if there's. Even if they decriminalize it and they can actually go to the police, maybe.
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Alay Eliyahu
I'm tripping, but I think strippers make a ton of money.
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Phil
And I mean, strippers. Strippers are different than prostitutes.
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Tate Brown
They're, you know, I think they're very vaguely the same. And I think in a religious worldview.
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Alay Eliyahu
No. And I think they put out too. I don't know. I don't visit strip clubs.
- [89:17]
Tate Brown
Frequent.
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Alay Eliyahu
They don't. I. I think they.
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Kevin Sorbo
I would think that they do in some places. I don't. I don't believe.
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Phil
Right. I've been to a lot of strip clubs and they. I'm 50 years old, bro.
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Alay Eliyahu
And you're.
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Phil
And I was. I've been. I was 25 years. So I mean, they, like, that is not something that happens regularly.
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Tate Brown
Like, I mean, I think it's just.
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Alay Eliyahu
Could you imagine the tech marrying legal prostitution too? Like, if you can Uber a prostitute. Like, the way technology will evolve with this industry if it becomes legalized will be disgusting and horrible and worse than I can imagine.
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Tate Brown
Like, they've done this thing where they just don't let you. As a society, they don't let you criminalize behaviors that are corrosive to the human spirit. Like, they call it a victimless crime. It's like, I don't need a victim involved to just want to disincentify something that's bad for people. Like, I'm so tired of this live and let live liberal attitude, dude. It's like, no, if something is bad for a human being, you can justify banning it. It's your society should be a reflection of good characteristics. And America was that for a long time.
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Alay Eliyahu
You're telling me there are things that you can do in the bedroom that affect society that are bad?
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Tate Brown
Yes, absolutely.
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Alay Eliyahu
Yes.
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Tate Brown
100. Yes. There's a.
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Phil
There's like doggy style.
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Tate Brown
Every.
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Phil
That's bad for just.
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Tate Brown
I mean, I'm a bit of a purist.
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Alay Eliyahu
Dehumanizing.
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Tate Brown
But every. Yeah, every personal decision society is just a culmination of personal decision decisions. That's all it is. That's all it is.
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Phil
Yeah. I mean, so look, I, I'm. I'm. I'm completely, you know, I don't think that that decriminalizing or, or legalizing prostitution in, in New York City or anywhere else is going to be, is going to produce positive results. It is typical of the. Stop it. It is typical of the, of the left to say, you know, to, to design, desire, these kind of things.
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Alay Eliyahu
You know, I love the Islam standard he's holding him to. He's like, come on, is that kosher in the Quran?
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Phil
I mean, is that halal?
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Alay Eliyahu
It's not halal.
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Phil
It's not halal kosher in the hadith.
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Alay Eliyahu
You're advocating actually that haram.
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Phil
It's not kosher in the hadith.
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Alay Eliyahu
As the Democratic mayoral candidate.
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Phil
It's called muta, right?
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Alay Eliyahu
The Arabic.
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Phil
Yeah, it's, it's in the, it's in the hadith. The Arabic dictionaries define muta as enjoyment, pleasure, delight. The root form, form signifies to carry away, to take away. A marriage of muta is a marriage which the contract, the contract stipulates will last for a fixed period of time. This marriage of muta is referred to both in the hadith literature and in much more detail in the books of On Juris jurisprudence. In the hadith and in other sayings related to early Muslims, the word muta itself usually employed. The Shia hold that this particular term is the preferred name for temporary marriage because the Quran itself refers to the kind of marriage employing a term derived.
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Alay Eliyahu
Muslims call prostitution temporary marriage.
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Phil
In the following verse, the. The word istma is the tenth verbal form of the root and is translated as enjoy. So there in the hadith, allegedly it, it condones this kind of behavior. It calls it a temporary marriage. And so maybe that's where Zoran Mamdani.
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Alay Eliyahu
I knew they did sex slaves in Islam, but I didn't know it was halal to do prostitution allegedly. I don't want to have to read into the Quran more than we already have.
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Kevin Sorbo
So maybe we could.
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Phil
Well, again, that's the Hadith, not the Quran.
- [92:31]
Alay Eliyahu
I mean, I don't know the difference, frankly.
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Tate Brown
Also, like another side problem with prostitution is it directly leads to human trafficking because what you're doing is you're putting a price tag on consent. And once you've done that, then trafficking is the next logical step. And so I mean, if you're, if you're against trafficking, then you should probably be against prostitution because it's not good to be putting a price tag on consistency consent. Because consent doesn't have a price tag. It's a mechanism, not a item for sale.
- [92:56]
Phil
Fair. Fair enough. So let's see. I think we covered this about as much as we're gonna cover it.
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Alay Eliyahu
What did search have pulled up?
- [93:06]
Phil
What did search out?
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Alay Eliyahu
Serge?
- [93:08]
Phil
What was that drama stuff that we'll talk about in the after show? Ashley St. Clair so but we're gonna jump to this one here from CBS News. Yosemite park ranger who hung trans Pride flag from El Capitan says they were fired three months after a group of climbers hung a transgender plied pride flag from El Capitan, an iconic rock formation in Yosemite. The National Park Service fired a park ranger who was involved in the display, the former employee said. Shannon SJ Jocelyn was terminated last week after working for nearly five years as a ranger and wildlife biologist at the Northern California National Park. Jocelyn wrote in a social media post Monday that his since garnered widespread attention online. In May, I hung a trans flag on El Capitan that celebrated my acceptance of my identity. Jocelyn captioned the post. I hung the flag in my free time off duty as a private citizen. It flew for a total of two hours in the morning. Then I took it down. Jocelyn referred to their ranger position as a dream job. They were fired by a park official for failing to demonstrate acceptable conduct in their role as a Yosemite wildlife biologist, according to the social media post, which accuses the National Park Service Service of violating their constitutional rights to free expression. Preservation has been my life's work of Yosemite, the wildlife, the land, recreation of people's rights and safety, of community and acceptance and now the constitutional First Amendment, jocelyn wrote, adding, I want my rights and I want my career back. Do you guys think that had this been a gigantic cross with Jesus on it, that this would have the same reaction? Or do you think that people on the left would take issue with it? With that?
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Kevin Sorbo
They would take a huge issue with the cross? Are you kidding me? I mean, we, this country is fought on Judeo Christian values, so to speak, but we've changed quite a bit over the, over the centuries. And it, it's weird to me. Look, we can go to classrooms now. They hang the Pride flag. They don't even put date. Why does Pride get a month? I got to just ask that question. Why? We give, we give Mother's Day one day. Father's Day. We give our vets one day. But Pride gets a month. Not a month.
- [95:15]
Phil
The LGBT day, fine, but the LGBTQ lobby doesn't just get the month. They get over a hundred days throughout the year because there's Pride Month and then there's all sorts of national this, that, or the other Thing day that fall throughout the rest of the year. So it's not just.
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Kevin Sorbo
It goes on and on and on. It's like, it's enough already. Fine, get a day. Fine, have them. Get them. Let them have a day. But this is just. I don't know, it's just. It's just weird to me. And then they took the rainbow. Sorry, that's biblical. But anything to degrade it. It's just intentional, of course. Yes, of course it is.
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Phil
Yeah. So, I mean, personally, pride parade.
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Kevin Sorbo
I mean, hello.
- [95:54]
Phil
That's usually just a parade of people being.
- [95:59]
Kevin Sorbo
Celebration of sex. Yeah, yeah.
- [96:01]
Phil
It's just degeneracy because. Because you never see or very rarely is it not loaded with half with either half. Half were fully naked adults. And.
- [96:11]
Kevin Sorbo
Oh, they perform sexual acts. I've seen the photos and videos people have sent. I'm going, you got to be kidding me.
- [96:16]
Phil
And. And look, there's something that is wrong with making sex your identity, right? Like the, Your whole. When it comes to people in the LGBTQ lobby or whatever, their entire identity, their whole personality is, is wrapped around who they do, who they want to have sex with. And that's the. The. The entire person. It becomes all consuming. There's this impulse on the left to center people on the margins. And. And the LGBTQ ideologies are always on the margins. And so they want to be centered, they want to be focused on. And this is something I've said a lot, but we need to reject the idea of centering the margins. You don't want to center the margins. You want to focus on the normal people. And yes, I'm going to use the. The free.
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Alay Eliyahu
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Bon voyage.
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Phil
Applied apply is normal. You want to focus on the normal people that have normal marriages, men and a wife and that have, want to have a normal family because that's what will carry on the society that you live in. If you have people that are, that have alternative lifestyles, you can have a society that makes room for them. But the idea that they should be celebrated is actually a terrible idea because it, it takes the focus off of the normal family family, which again is what will continue your society. If you care about just if you're making an economic argument, if you care about a tax base, then you need to have your, your next generation be as big or bigger than the one that you're in. And we have, we are, we have fallen so far behind.
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Kevin Sorbo
It's. Yeah, we're in the negative growth.
- [99:16]
Phil
Yeah, I mean it's, it's looking like. I think Tim was, Tim was saying the other day that it's something like Gen Alpha has to have four kids to, to have enough children to carry on society.
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Alay Eliyahu
Is that why he's been out recently?
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Phil
I will take, I wouldn't even venture to guess personally but I mean, you know, it used to be you have to have 2.1. That's what the, the boomers needed. And they fought, they fell short. The millennials have fallen short. And because they're falling short and because.
- [99:45]
Kevin Sorbo
Like you said, it's happening all around the world.
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Phil
It is, is. But like you said earlier, Muslims aren't.
- [99:51]
Kevin Sorbo
They have five wives and five kids with each of them. So they're growing, they're growing astronomically.
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Phil
Because like you said earlier, the abortion issue is a real issue because that's 25 million people that never existed.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [100:02]
Phil
You know, and so these things compound and we're going to have a massive problem because it's not just going to be oh, there aren't people around. It means that there's not going to be people that can do the things that our society needs done to keep our society going going.
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Alay Eliyahu
There's not going to be the girls, there's going to be 25% less women that Tate could have dated.
- [100:25]
Tate Brown
So true.
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Alay Eliyahu
So now his potential girlfriend of Gen Z doesn't exist. He has 25% less friends. It's real less dating potential on the dating market.
- [100:35]
Tate Brown
Just like with stuff like this. I think you should just be inherently skeptical of anything that's promoting something that kills your bloodline. Abortion, like homosexual parades or whatever. It's like, look, tolerance is one thing, but like celebration of sex, something that's actually kind of tragic. I just don't see this as beneficial for Americans in any way because we already have such a culture of nihilism, especially with zoomers, that by just re emphasizing and recentering human behavior that kills your bloodline, that extinguishes your family lineage. I mean that's not, I mean it's a very sad thing. And I mean especially with abortion, I mean it's just non stop promotion of it. And it's like how is this beneficial to recenter something so anti human and anti birth and anti antinatal I guess is the word to use.
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Alay Eliyahu
I think the best, humanity's best chance of overcoming this birth rate deficit. Well, it actually depends on where you look at. Because they don't have birth deficits in India or Nigeria.
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Tate Brown
They do in India now.
- [101:35]
Alay Eliyahu
Now they do really in India.
- [101:36]
Tate Brown
It's getting to the point where the third world is now cratering in birth rate.
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Alay Eliyahu
If we want to, I think if we wanna reverse this issue, particularly in the west, the key to doing so is going back to religiosity. If you're looking for the groups of people in our country right now that are still reproducing at over replacement rates. It's our people who are religious. It's random Amish communities throughout the country. It's orthodox Jewish communities. These communities have like 6, 7, 8, 9 kids. All of the women do. And religiosity trends towards having more children as we get more secular. Secular, we have less. So I think that's the major trend.
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Phil
Doesn't that require belief?
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Alay Eliyahu
It does.
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Phil
Because part of the reason, part of the reason why society, you know, modern secular society doesn't have the same type of faith is because science has actually answered a lot of things that was, were not answered before. And if you couldn't answer the questions, people would say, well you Know, maybe it's God or we don't understand not to say that there is no room for God in a, you know, in a secular or in a modern society. But that is going to inevitably make people say, well may, if we can actually figure these things out, maybe God isn't real. You know, we can, we, we. Nobody thinks, oh lightning is God anymore. Nobody thinks that, that the, the sun coming up and going down is because God is, because God wills it. Don't do it. The point that I'm making is with a modern society like we have, a lot of those questions are answered. And so I do think that, that the lack of religion leaves a God basically a God shaped hole in people's, in people's lives. But I also think that people are, are reluctant to, to fill it with religion because they feel like, well, that's, that's old, that's, that's, that's, you know, the questions have been answered, science has answered that. And so I think that that's a significant, significant, you know, a significant reason as to why. And I'd be interested in what you guys think of that.
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Kevin Sorbo
Interesting. I did a documentary that's coming out, it's called against the World and I did it with John Lennox. John Lennox is a very famous. John Lennox is amazing. He's an apologist, retired math professor from Oxford University. We shot three weeks in Oxford, two weeks in Israel. And it's called against the World. It's about proving God in a world of science. And I call it Apologetics for Dummies like me, because you guys just. He's amazing and he's brilliant and I think anybody and everybody should watch this. You don't have to be a person of faith to watch this, just to listen to what he has to say. And you'll see clips of him debating Singer and Dawkins and Hitchens, really world famous apology atheist. And he kills them with kindness is what he kills them with more than anything else. And it's just pretty fantastic. I want people to check it out. It's coming out later this year and it's called against it the World. And it's, you know, I, I look at the stars at night and I go, well, somebody made this and it wasn't me, you know, and that's, that's where I believe there's a God, there's an intelligent design behind this. Because I could look at this desk right here and they go, where do you think this came from? Somebody made it. I go, exactly. I don't have all the answers either. But if I look at infinity that it just goes forever and there's billions of galaxies out there or something. It's pretty mind boggling to think that it just happened. I, I don't have all the answers but to me I believe there was. There's a higher power that created all this.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. John Lennox is really Richard Dawkins debate. That's like the biggest phenomenal, phenomenal, philosophical beat down. John Lennox is the goat. I do think to a certain degree it is kind of sad that the only if the only way to increase the birth rate would be like a return to like Ludditeism, like the Amish. Like I do hope that we're able to create an environment where technology can still progress while simultaneously keeping the birth rate above, above the water. I had Nate Fiser, he, he was a guest on my, I covered for the morning show about a week and a half ago and we had Nate Fisher on who's a pro AI. A lot would hate him. He's super pro AI and he actually proposed this interesting, he had an interesting proposal for the future which is clearly the one common denominator with countries that are experiencing birth rate deficiencies is women's workplace participation is when women are in the workplace, they're working the same hours as men. They just simply do not have time for child childbirth. And if you're in a developed country, having a child is a economic negative. It's just a bad decision to make. If you're trying to make money, that's just the way it is. I hate that as a, as a Christian, but it is what it is. And his proposal was that as AI evolves it can knock out a lot of these laptop jobs, these fake email jobs and typically these jobs are manned by women because they're less physically intensive. And so when AI comes in and replaces these jobs, jobs along with, you know, preventing the need for extra migrant labor is that could actually return us back to a more pre, post modern civilizational structure where women are able to stay at home and the man is able to make enough money to support the family on a single income because these companies will have more so they won't require as much labor to perform the same.
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Phil
Do you think that it's economically based, honestly? Is that the, the.
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Tate Brown
I, I suspect, I mean I do think religiosity is to a certain extent. I mean because for example Israel is a developed country where women are in the workforce and they do have a net positive birth rate. But that's Kind of a.
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Phil
Isn't that because of the, the orthodox.
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Tate Brown
That are super even among like conservative Jews, like they still have a positive birth rate. And I suspect that's because they have a mission as a society. And again, I don't think it's sustainable. I don't think every country can have a mission as a society. Like, regardless, the United States and Canada and the UK are not going to have existential threats at all times. And so wouldn't that, wouldn't that need.
- [107:22]
Phil
A, wouldn't it need the same kind of like we need to keep our people like, like an ethno nationalism to keep to, to inspire people to say, I need to make sure that. Because that's one of the things that the, that the, the Israelis have, right?
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Tate Brown
To a degree. But you have ethno states around the world, effective ethno state states, and they're the worst off, like Japan, South Korea, China. I mean, China is an explicitly Han state. That is the purpose is to expel and expunge the entire land of other ethnic minorities and create this Han ethnostate. And they can't keep their birth rate above water. So it's like, I don't think that's enough. And if anything, it actually makes it worse with the track record that we see in East Asia.
- [108:01]
Kevin Sorbo
Well, they're in trouble in China because they've had over 450 forced abortions, most of the as well, most of them female.
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Tate Brown
Their population is 55% male, which a lot of people don't realize.
- [108:10]
Phil
Which like historically that means civil war or some kind of, some kind of adventurer.
- [108:15]
Tate Brown
China's adventure is a little overrated as far as like a looming superpower. They actually have far more systemic issues in the United States.
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Alay Eliyahu
Has.
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Tate Brown
But yeah, so I mean like, yeah, I do agree, like religiosity. I mean again, as a Christian, I've been incentive to, for that to be the case. And it certainly helps. Like evangelicals have the exact same economic pressures as the rest of the country. But evangelicals do have a higher birth rate. Granted it's still below replacement. I think it's about 1.8, 1.9. But that's far higher than the American average, which is like 1.5, 1.6. And you know, even white evangelicals is still that number. And white people in the country, it's like 1.4. So. But really, jealousy doesn't fix it all. Like, you do need to restructure how families are able to form and what, what your civilization prioritizes in a, in a Family unit.
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Phil
Do you think that there would ever come a point where the government would outlaw things like birth control or outlaw and outlaw abortion so that way the population can actually reproduce? Because it's my. I think that sign that the, the. The pill and abortion are the two biggest things as to why there are. Why we don't have a pay the replacement rate. Because it used to be where, you know, if, you know, a girl got pregnant, the guy would marry her. Right? And that was, that was just what happened. You got a girl pregnant. Well, now it's your wife. Now you go the shotgun wedding and everything. And that's something that was kind of like, that was the way that it was throughout a lot of history. And when that stopped being the case, you know, when, when you no longer had the shotgun wedding, when, you know, when you had abortion, abortion as, you know, available for. For anyone and you have the birth control pill to prevent pregnancy, that's when you saw the, the real beginning of the decline in the, in the replacement rate.
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Kevin Sorbo
Well, I think, I think through education, through public education, through universities, through movies, that Hollywood does television, I think that we, the people get married much later now. I think people stay pretty much children still through their twenties now. They don't. They're not ready to go grow up. And so you're looking at the average age of getting married is much higher than it was just, you know, two generations ago. It's changed drastically. And they don't want to have. They want to just maybe have a kid and have it much later when they're in their 30s or even in their 40s, if they are able to. But I mean, it's changed. And I think just that mentality towards marriage and having kids has been sort of. There's been an indoctrination through, I think the mainstream media and through Hollywood and what, how Hollywood does well.
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Tate Brown
And it also came with the territory of modernization and with eliminating infant mortality is we're in the last 60 years. This is the first time in human history where people have kids because they want kids versus having kids because they need kids. Because prior to, let's just say the world wars, people needed kids because they needed.
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Kevin Sorbo
We were agriculturally based. It's true. I mean, I look at both my grandparents that came over here. Both, both sets came over from Norway and they had. My grandparents were part, they had like, they were part of 10 or 11 kids in each family. Yeah, they had to work the farms. It was all about working the farms.
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Tate Brown
And even then, like, and then beyond that, even, even People that were urban, highly urbanized people, because they did exist prior to the World wars, is they even felt they needed kids for that religious reason. And also like to pass on family heirlooms, pass on wealth, guarantee that wealth stayed within, like, a controlled environment. So now people just have kids as like, oh, I'd like to have a kid. Like, the same reason people have. I hate to equivalize it, but it's the same reason people get a dog. It's like, oh, it'd be nice to have a dog around. That's what people do is like, oh, it'd be nice to have a kid around. People don't really have this. Like, I think they do, but they're just ignoring it. I do think a lot of people actually have this deep desire to extend their bloodline to have a child, but I think a lot of people are able to backfill that with dogs or consumer products.
- [112:00]
Phil
I think women do, particularly when they get close to 30.
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Tate Brown
Oh, yeah, that was Jordan Peterson, actually. He said when he was practicing clinical psychology, he said the toughest case, I mean, he had people like veterans coming in that had seen their brothers die. You know, children that have been beat, like, the worst things you could possibly imagine. He said the most difficult cases he had to handle were postmenopausal women that never had children.
- [112:25]
Kevin Sorbo
So.
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Phil
All right, we're going to go ahead and jump to Super Chat, so smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, head on over to rumble.com and become a member. So you can join us for the after show and head over. Head on over to Timcast.com so you can join the Discord and call into the show. You can talk to our guest, you can ask the panel questions, but you can only do that if you're a member of Rumble, so you can watch the after show or you're a member of timcast.com the discord, so that way you can get in there and make the phone calls. But right now, we are going to go to your Super Chat. That hold up here. Going to make this a little bit bigger. What are you doing? Okay.
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Alay Eliyahu
So.
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Phil
So Ron Quay, mtb says, phil, you need to start wearing a beanie already. What? You don't like the. The. The brim of my hat? No, the. The. This is. This is my jam, man.
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Alay Eliyahu
Dude, earlier I saw you sitting in that seat without the hat, and I thought you were Tim without the beanie.
- [113:32]
Phil
No, I mean, I swear to God.
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Alay Eliyahu
I thought it was the same bald head.
- [113:35]
Phil
No, no, Tim. Tim And I look different.
- [113:38]
Alay Eliyahu
All you bald people look alike.
- [113:40]
Phil
They're all just. Just a bunch of thumbs. That's it.
- [113:43]
Alay Eliyahu
All these in black shirts.
- [113:44]
Phil
That's right. Let's see. KS Corey says it would nice. It would be nice to see all the stuff about our history that the Smithsonian has been hiding for a hundred years. Years like giants.
- [113:56]
Tate Brown
Real Nephilim. Release the Nephilim files. Enough about Epstein. Release the Nephilim files. We know that we found some in Afghanistan. You know, we heard. We brought them over and they're in our big helic. Like, let's see them. I know they're out there.
- [114:08]
Phil
I don't buy it.
- [114:09]
Tate Brown
And we could put them in the NBA possibly.
- [114:11]
Phil
I'm not buying it.
- [114:11]
Tate Brown
Memphis Grizzlies need another center and Zach Ed is not enough. We need more. So maybe we need a Nephilim. I don't know. I'm just spitballing here.
- [114:16]
Phil
AK Storm 49 says Tate, sir, you were trashing Alaska while talking about the Putin Trump meeting. Ask Tim how gorgeous Anchorage was while he was there. Plus, they meet at jber, which is gorgeous and busy.
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Tate Brown
I just. Look, Anchorage is Alaska's beautiful. They should have met in like, Juneau.
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Phil
Have you been to Alaska?
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I have. I've been to the. I've been to Alaska, and I think Juneau is one of the most beautiful cities in the United States. That's why I just felt like putting him on an Air Force base in Anchorage. I think Alaska has more to offer. That's what I was trying to get at. And you also have to understand, like, I'm so terrified on the morning show sometimes I don't express enough thought that I don't flesh out my thoughts enough sometimes. And this was definitely one case. I love Alaska. I feel very sad that people think I hate Alaska. No, I love Alaska.
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Phil
You define it. You did good. Don't tell them you're walking it back.
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Kevin Sorbo
Yeah, I got to.
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Tate Brown
I'm walking it back. I'm walking it back.
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Kevin Sorbo
A couple years ago, I got to be the celebrity starter for the Iditarod.
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Phil
Oh, nice.
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Kevin Sorbo
It was awesome. Yeah. Iditarod. It's a thousand mile dog sled race they have through Alaska everywhere. I've been doing it for 100 years or something. Something.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Kevin Sorbo
So they hooked up my own sled to another guy's sled and his pack of 12 dogs. So I said for the first 12 miles, it was me. And he said, whatever I do with my body, you do the same thing. If I work my butt all the way down this side you better go because you'll flip over and you're slide. It was awesome. Wow. It was so cool.
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Tate Brown
That's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing.
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Phil
Let's see. Black Nexus says I loved Hercules and even more so Andromeda. Thanks for being an inspiration on and off the screen, Mr.
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Tate Brown
Swift.
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Phil
Sorbo.
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Kevin Sorbo
Oh, very kind. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. I got more to come. Sorbostudios.com go there. I got four movies coming out this year and three documentaries. One is that one. One is on the Last Supper.
- [115:57]
Phil
Oh.
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Kevin Sorbo
It's called Eating with the Enemy. Pretty interesting. Brent Miller's company, Ingenuity Films. A very, very good company.
- [116:05]
Tate Brown
Let's go.
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Phil
Awesome. Bert Crash says. I hope Tim's voice returns into the gravelly Alex Jones time when he comes back and starts railing about a lot of being his handler and that he can't handle it anymore.
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Alay Eliyahu
Inshallah.
- [116:22]
Phil
I don't, I don't know that he's gonna have that kind of gravelly Alex Jones thing or not. But I talked to him a little bit today and he's still, it's still pretty beat up. It's. It's kind of rough. So I'm not sure I thought he was gonna be back today.
- [116:34]
Tate Brown
I think I thought so too.
- [116:35]
Phil
A lot of us thought that he was gonna be back, but I, I wouldn't be surprised if he's not back tomorrow either.
- [116:39]
Kevin Sorbo
We did that. We did the pre show. At least we got a little bit of it was good.
- [116:42]
Tate Brown
And yeah, if, if I, if I am on the morning show tomorrow, it will be a 30 minute apology to the state of Alaska. Directed, titled, to Sarah Palin.
- [116:50]
Phil
Most of all, never, never say your son.
- [116:52]
Tate Brown
It'll be a. There'll be a nice dog sledding compilation. It'll really hard.
- [116:55]
Phil
Never apologize. They'll look at it like.
- [116:57]
Tate Brown
I'll use, I'll use Mr. Sorvo's videos and it'll be a beautiful thing.
- [117:01]
Phil
Ha. Happy Garand says. 29 years old and I just bought my first house. Ordered some cast brew to celebrate. Congratulations. Oh, let's, let's, let's hear that. That's great to hear. That there are some, some, some people in their 20s that can afford a home.
- [117:15]
Tate Brown
Define the odds. Yeah, you know, great work, King. Keep it.
- [117:18]
Phil
Good job. All right, let's see. Waffle Sensei says, Kevin, how was it working with Mercer in the Mythica series? And do you think Hollywood could succeed doing that for classic style of filmmaking?
- [117:31]
Kevin Sorbo
Yeah, if they had the Budget for that we did. It was five. Five movies. Kind of a part of the poor man's sort of. What am I thinking? Thinking of poor man's version of Lord of the Rings. But it was cool. We shot in the mountains in Provo, Utah and it was pretty cool. I played sort of the Gandalf type character in it. But it was, it was good. I think that idea would be great if you get a bigger budget with it. They did a great job. They did a great job putting it together. And it was. You can get the five part. It's five movies you can get on one. One DVD section. It's pretty cool. DVDs are dying. But it's out there. Hey, it's out there.
- [118:03]
Tate Brown
Still a big market.
- [118:04]
Kevin Sorbo
I still have them. I still still have them.
- [118:05]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [118:07]
Phil
All right, let's see. Tyrant God says happy to see Hercules back on the show. Grew up watching the legendary journey and as a kid it showed me a good man stands up for what is right. P S. My username is inspired by Hercules and God of War. That's awesome.
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Kevin Sorbo
I did the voice of God of War 3.
- [118:23]
Phil
Yeah.
- [118:23]
Kevin Sorbo
It's so funny. I did. There's a thing called Gen Con Indianapolis. I still do about five or six comic cons a year because of Hercules and Andromeda. But I was in Prague last year in one of it. Apparel is pretty cool.
- [118:31]
Phil
Cool.
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Kevin Sorbo
And so Gen Cons in Indianapolis. I must assign 500 of these God of God, God of war threes. And every guy came up and said dude, you're awesomeness. I'm sorry I had to kill you. But it was really cool.
- [118:44]
Phil
It is cool. With my. My band was in a video game called Guitar Hero 2 and kids would come up with the controller, this guitar stuff and they. We'd have sign it. So it's super flattering when people bring that kind of stuff up and they're just like, you know, so that's. That's awesome to hear. Let's see. Mytho 671 says in Afghanistan we had them dip their thumb in long lasting ink when they voted. So they couldn't vote twice that they did the same thing in Iraq. Right. They had the, the green. I mean that's. That, that. I mean apparently it worked, you know, but I mean, I don't know that that'll work here in the US because again, we don't even have to show IDs or, or anything.
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Alay Eliyahu
Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.
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Will
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Alay Eliyahu
That's not the itinerary we're following.
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Will
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Kevin Sorbo
Bon voyage.
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Phil
So I imagine that that the, the, the idea of making sure that we can prove that someone already voted, that's something the Democrats would just fight against.
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Alay Eliyahu
So I'm not sure how well that's working out for them in Iraq and Afghanistan as far as their democracy goes.
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Tate Brown
Works well in Mozambique. I had a friend who was in Mozambique. They had a big civil war recently over an election gone wrong. And I had a friend, he was from England and he was in Mozambique. Mozambique at the time and day of the election. A police officer asked if he wanted to vote for $5 and he was about to until they made him put it. They wanted him to put his finger in ink and he knew he'd not be able to get out of the country if he did that because it would have stained for months at a time. So Mozambique, it's working pretty well.
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Phil
There you go.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. And besides the civil war, obviously I.
- [121:34]
Phil
Don'T think it's correlated but I identify as tax exempt. Says Republicans are red, Democrats are blue. No matter what you choose you, you get Dick Cheney based.
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Tate Brown
I almost said based too.
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Alay Eliyahu
You're a winner either way.
- [121:50]
Phil
Well that's, that's a libertarian being upset about that. Just so you know.
- [121:54]
Alay Eliyahu
Sadder they are, the happier I am.
- [122:00]
Phil
All right, let's see what we got here. Button says I get the blaming California mentality and it's not wrong. But by far the biggest problem is insane rabid native born Texan leftist. They are far more than I ever expected. California never lib even once. Now Texas Texan.
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Alay Eliyahu
Well, Bernie Sanders is from a majority what state as I understand it.
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Tate Brown
Well, I mean that is true. Texas. Tony Ortiz came on and this is a stat that actually a lot of like Texas politics exports spurts experts love citing. Is that like what the Ted Cruz Beto o' Rourke Senate race for example is? Native born Texas actually voted blue 5544 and transplants voted 5545 for Ted Cruz. So the numbers suggest that it's actually the transplants coming from presumably blue states that are keeping the state red. And the native born Texans are the ones that are voting blue. And this does make sense because it's like yeah, if you did come from California, you would probably not be keen on voting Democrat. Obviously this doesn't always happen like in Nevada and Arizona, but at least in Texas it seems to be the case. By the by, the data is actually the native born Texans. You have to consider the massive demographic shifts that occurred in Texas throughout the 80s and 90s and 2000s. It is not the same, it's not the same demographics that you had in the 80s. That was, you know that your, your cowboys and that sort of thing.
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Alay Eliyahu
There's also much different now to the over inclusivity of what it means to be whites. Whites in Vermont are different from whites in West Virginia are different from whites in Pennsylvania are different from from whites in Illinois. They came from different backgrounds, have different values, are different versions of Christians.
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Kevin Sorbo
Right.
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Alay Eliyahu
I mean the downstream effects of that it is over inclusive to just say oh white people and they all think the same and they're all Americans in the same way.
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Tate Brown
I do think they're broadly homogenizing. I think white voters are now more impacted by their environment. I think white voters in New England, the reason they are so Democratic is because they're not typically exposed to the result of their policies. Like people in larger states like Ohio, Illinois, for example, diversity. When you import a bunch of immigrants, people in states with high powered economies are gonna feel that a lot heavier than if you're in Vermont, where it's 98%.
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Alay Eliyahu
I think it's downstream effects of where they immigrated to. As I believe north in the New England area was mostly from England. In Pennsylvania, as I understand, there were a lot of German Germans who came over and like these are different pockets of different whites and in any other context would be considered, you know, completely different and different religions and, and have blood feuds going back thousands of years. But now since we're in America and the skin just kind of looks the same, it's. We're over inclusive with them, I think, is the definitely. Yeah, yeah.
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Tate Brown
I mean there's definitely something to be said with like New England WASPs being very liberal now. But I, like I said earlier, the reason I say it's homogenizing is because. Because a, like the influx of white Americans that came, you know, with the Ellis island wave sort of just flooded the entire country. And it did have a homogenizing effect. All of the local cultures from like, there's a great book, Albion Seed, that discusses like the different migration patterns of people from England. Like, that's a whole nother thing. But like New England, for example, the majority of whites in New England now are Irish and Italian, from New Hampshire to Massachusetts to Connecticut. So, so it's like, okay, yes, the wasps did shape the culture there, and the culture to this day does still reflect that kind of early WASP heritage. But the vast majority of whites there don't trace the majority of their lineage to that. And that's broadly the case across the country now. I mean, you still. The south. Okay, yes, the Scots Irish influence is still there, but whites, Whites are becoming more of a monolith and they're moving around a lot too. Like, I mean, maybe 100 years ago that would 100% be the case. But yeah, those sort of migration patterns are starting to become less relevant as the country becomes more jumbled and like I said, the Ellis island waves of migration as well.
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Phil
Michael Thompson says something you didn't know about the trucking story from yesterday. The company he was driving for had been shut down and had merely changed numbers and physical addresses before revolution restarting. No change. So this I think is. Is why you need to expropriate their property. If they're hiring illegals, take their stuff and sell their stuff to other people and throw them in jail for hiring illegal aliens.
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Tate Brown
Did you see, did you see the trucking story?
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Kevin Sorbo
I did not.
- [126:30]
Tate Brown
It was crazy. It was in Florida. There was these. There was a illegal immigrant trucker from India.
- [126:36]
Kevin Sorbo
Oh no. I saw that.
- [126:37]
Tate Brown
And he Just U turned.
- [126:37]
Kevin Sorbo
He tried to take a U turn in the middle of a freeway.
- [126:39]
Tate Brown
Killed three Americans. Americans.
- [126:40]
Phil
Yeah, three people.
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Kevin Sorbo
No, I saw that. And his reaction was like, when something hit me. Yeah, just turn around. No, I did see that.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Phil
Horrible.
- [126:46]
Tate Brown
It was a California issued cdl.
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Kevin Sorbo
Go figure.
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Alay Eliyahu
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Phil
So it's, it's terrible. And, and you know, we need to do something to make it difficult for illegals to live here. And I think that one of the things that Democrats says, say all the time is, oh, you know, why don't you ever go after the, the people that hire him? Well, guess what? I think we should, I think we should take their, I think we should throw them in jail, take their business, take their problem.
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Kevin Sorbo
They know what they're doing, they know they're hiring. Look, people, I, the majority of people coming across the last four years or every year, they, they want to be in America and I get it. And they're good people, the majority. They're still breaking the law. Yeah. You're still breaking the law. Come across legally.
- [127:29]
Phil
Yeah.
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Kevin Sorbo
My, my grandparents did, you know, just come and do the legal thing. What's, I mean, it's weird to me. It's, it's. And people are all upset about, you know, what we're taking. I was in. Who was the female governor? Jan. Arizona years ago. What was her name? If you go back 10, 12, 15 years or whatever, she was the one that first had a big issue what was going on with all these illegals coming across. And she said, I'm going to endorse, I'm going to enforce the Jan Brewer. Jan Brewer. Thank you. I'm going to enforce the laws of the land. And there was a woman that, at a 180m, it was a fan. I said, yeah, we should, we should. She goes, we should have opened border. I said, no, we shouldn't.
- [128:05]
Phil
No.
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Kevin Sorbo
And so she just got in my face and I said, okay, you go home tonight, there's a family of seven in your living room. I'd let them stay. She said, which is such a liberal thing to say because they have so much more. Oh, they care so much more. I go, you, you get rid of your family after three days of Christmas. Give me a break. You're not going to let this family of seven people you don't know in your house stay with you. I mean, they try to be so, oh, we're so much more better and noble than you are. But it's all just such an act.
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Phil
It's like the permissivity of it, like I looked up into this, into this guy's case or like, like the, this trucker we're talking about and like he had, he had not understood, like, I think most of the signage. Like, he didn't understand half of like the questions. And they still gave him the license. They still permitted and said, oh, you.
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Tate Brown
Can just have this.
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Phil
Like the people that are hiring, like Phil has said, are those people that we need to be like actually grilling and punishing because that's who's providing this whole ecosystem for all these people.
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Alay Eliyahu
You know, Can I go out on a limb here and say something about the truckers too? Do. Is it just me or do we put them on a bit of a pedestal?
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Phil
Yeah, because they.
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Alay Eliyahu
I don't, no, no, I don't know. Because I drive a lot and I see a lot of these.
- [129:04]
Phil
I spent a lot of time on tour dealing with truckers and dealing with truckers at truck stops. I do not put those men on a pedestal.
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Alay Eliyahu
I feel like, oh, the truck, everybody all work, you know.
- [129:19]
Phil
Yeah.
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Alay Eliyahu
Something we should admire and think people.
- [129:21]
Phil
Are doing hard at. But like, how do you, how do you, how do you think freight in this country travels mostly by by rail or by truck?
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Alay Eliyahu
Mostly by truck.
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Kevin Sorbo
I would say.
- [129:28]
Alay Eliyahu
Okay, I understand. Yeah, yeah, truck. But that, you know, all jobs have value. But that doesn't mean I have to love truckers driving. Like, I'm not saying you have to love this jerk offs on the, on the highway, which is not the best drivers. And I feel like we always say, like, oh, they're the lifeline of the nation and you know, they provide a.
- [129:43]
Kevin Sorbo
Great service and they always, they always pull in front of me when I'm cruising and they go 71 to pass the truck. Going 70. Yeah. It takes forever to get the governor.
- [129:56]
Phil
Every night when I, I do my outro or when I get done say, the last thing I say is the left lane is for crying. Yeah. Because you should not be in the left lane doing 65 or less. You should be. You should be. Yep. Doing more than that anyways.
- [130:10]
Alay Eliyahu
Imagine the pissed off truck driver. Tim Cast viewer watch.
- [130:12]
Phil
Look, there's a lot.
- [130:17]
Kevin Sorbo
I got to watch this.
- [130:18]
Phil
I am, I am critical of truck driver drivers on X frequently. And I take a lot of heat about it because I'll be like, you know, I. So when I first heard about this particular, this particular story, I was like, I can't wait until AI Trucks are the majority of trucks on the road. And boy, did people hate it. Some dude got, he got all up and he's like, I can't wait until AI takes your job. I'm like, bro, I'm a musician. Like 20, 20 friggin years ago my, my industry was destroyed. So don't, don't tell me about. Oh look, you're gonna destroy my industry. Deal with it. That's what happens.
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Alay Eliyahu
Truck drivers.
- [130:59]
Phil
Don't worry, I got your backs.
- [131:00]
Alay Eliyahu
These AI clankers are not coming for your jobs. I will not let it happen. It's not gonna happen.
- [131:04]
Phil
Yeah they are. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they are. 0% millennial mechanic says continuing the tradition of posting. We just got home with my newborn. He is a whole day old and we love him so much. Keep the good show up folks. Congratulations. Thank you very much. We're continuing the species. We here at Tim Cast love bibbies so make more babies. So we got one more here. Oh, Ari Cohen says at the hospital with my wife Chelsea who is giving birth to our first baby. She's such a trooper. Congratulations. Great to hear.
- [131:37]
Alay Eliyahu
Nice congrats.
- [131:38]
Phil
I love the, the two. Two shout outs in, in one night.
- [131:42]
Tate Brown
That's a wonderful baby making happening.
- [131:43]
Phil
Yeah. You know, Well, I mean the babies are made. They're now just kind of.
- [131:46]
Tate Brown
There's probably more happening now.
- [131:48]
Phil
Hopefully.
- [131:48]
Tate Brown
The trucker conversation probably got some people fired up. All I'm saying.
- [131:51]
Phil
Yeah. All right.
- [131:53]
Tate Brown
They're convicted over the birth rate conversation. That could be what it was too.
- [131:56]
Phil
Steve Smith says doing awesome hosting, Phil. Thank you. And also love when a lot is on. I do as well. He certainly is the Beetlejuice of Tim Cast. Just kidding. Kinda. I love a lot. I love a lot because a lot is thoughtful in a lot of his points and there are times where we disagree degree and we can have a productive or interesting or fun back and forth. So you, you. This is a no disparaging a lot zone here if I'm running the show. No disparaging a lot.
- [132:23]
Alay Eliyahu
You're always great filling in. Sometimes it's not about what you want to hear. Sometimes it's about what you need to hear.
- [132:29]
Phil
That's right. That's right. Let's see. I identify as tax exempt set. Oh no, we already said that. Balance. Yeah, yeah. Method 671 says he only wants to legalize it for the taxable market. Hookers don't pay taxes on their johns. He knows the government is missing out on all that sweet, sweet cash. I mean, look, I don't know. I don't know what mom Donnie's thinking, you know, I don't know. Anyways, look brings new meaning to tap and pay, you know, listen, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. Head on over to Tim cast, become a member and join the discord. Head on over to Rumble and become a member there so you can join us for the after show which we're about to go to. To Kevin, do you have anything to shout out?
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Kevin Sorbo
Shout out. Hey, I got four movies coming out like I said earlier and I got three documentaries done. I got three new movies I've already shot this year. I got another one I'm directing in New Orleans. October, November. Sorbo Studios.com is a place to go. Sign up. We'll let you know what's going on. Sorbo Studios.com awesome.
- [133:28]
Tate Brown
You can find me on X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown. Maybe the morning show again. I don't know, we'll see what happens. But yeah, stay tuned. Come follow me there and hang out.
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Alay Eliyahu
Thanks for tuning in everybody. I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent. I also cover a lot of ICE activities detaining illegal aliens around the New York City area. You can follow me at a lot Eliyahu and Twitter and Instagram to check out more of my coverage there.
- [133:51]
Kevin Sorbo
When you I got to go shot for my ex and I forgot my ex ex. K Sorbs. K Sorbs.
- [133:56]
Phil
There you go. Do you, do you like cheer on the ice agents?
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Alay Eliyahu
No, but it is some of the most thrilling. I've covered riots, protests, the president. There's nothing more thrilling, thrilling than these ICE agents grabbing people. The looks on their faces. It's like a movie, Kevin. It's almost like people are so expressive and emotional. It's so dramatic. It's so real.
- [134:14]
T-Mobile Advertiser
Bro, are you gonna, are you gonna.
- [134:15]
Phil
Ask the questions I asked you on Twitter today?
- [134:17]
Alay Eliyahu
No, I'm not just gonna ask random jerk off questions. Although I am trying to learn Spanish because like I'll ask them what country they're from and they'll, they'll lie to me and be like no hablo ingles and usa. I want to say donde arist too.
- [134:29]
Phil
Is that I am Phil that remains on Twix. I'm Phil that remains official. Official on actually no, I'm not affiliate remains official anymore. I got rid of that one. The band is all that remains. You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music's Pandora, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime. Stick around for the after show and if you're not sticking around, we will see you tomorrow. Marketing is hard, but I'll tell you a little secret.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Phil
You love the host.
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Ryan Seacrest
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