
Tim, Phil, Shane, & Tate are joined by Wade Miller to discuss Trump slamming Democrats over the murder of a Ukrainian refugee, liberal media crying racism over crime stats, leftists attempting to cover up murder of Ukrainian refugee, and Chicago...
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Only thing that should interrupt your listening is. Well, nothing. Download the Amazon Music app Today It's a story that actually happened several weeks ago. A young woman leaving work got onto a train, minding her own business, looking down at her phone, when a black man for seemingly no reason pulled out a folding knife and murdered her. It took a while for people to notice the story, but eventually it started to go viral with people asking why the media wasn't covering such a brutal and grisly murder. Begin the biggest story in the country and one of the biggest stories in the world over the weekend and as the biggest story on X and that is worldwide. And to this day the media has still not covered the story except to insult the right to call them racist for daring to bring it up. It is evil. I guess. As of right now I even have on Google their AI Gemini says still the New York Times has not written about the story. In fact on Wikipedia the editors are trying to get the story deleted despite the fact it's a national story with people asking the question how could this individual arrested 14 times for various crimes be let go and this horrific crime be allowed to take place? And you know what else my friend? Another story from this weekend. A professor in Auburn, Alabama went out to walk her dog, a 59 year old woman, and she was also brutally murdered by a black man. Now there are many stories that do go viral. The George Floyd killing of course went viral and this is what people have been pointing out across social media, that those stories will get national attention in the corporate press, but when it's the other way around, when it's black on white violence, they won't talk about it at all. In fact, on cnn, Brian Stelter accused people on X of being racist. Incredible. So we'll talk about that. Plus, Operation Midway Blitz is underway. ICE going to Chicago. 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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Wade Miller.
Wade Miller
Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
Tim Pool
Who are you? What do you do?
Wade Miller
Well, I'm the senior advisor at center for Renewing America. That's the think tank started by Russ Vogt, who's President Trump's Office of Management and Budget director. Before that I was a chief of staff for Chip Roy. Before that I was a political director for Ted Cruz. Before that worked at Heritage Action with Russ Vogt and then before that, Marine Corps.
Tim Pool
Right on. Well, it should be interesting. Thanks for joining out.
Wade Miller
Thanks for having me.
Tim Pool
We got producer Tate.
Tate Brown
What's up guys? Tate Brown here holding it down. Guess I'm like a backup host at Tim Cast and I'm holding it down for Brett this week on pcc. So come hang out this week on pcc.
Shane Cashman
And yeah, I am Shane Cashman and I'm going to be running out of this studio at 9:40 tonight to host Inverted World Live. We go live at 10pm It's a call in show. If you've got a weird, strange, twisted story you want to share, give us a call. We're going to talk about that aggressive probe that's flying towards Earth right now. Every week there's a new story about it. The newest one is that there's many probes on the bigger probe. So we'll talk about that a lot more. Hi Phil.
Phil Abonti
Welcome back from the netherworld chain. Hello everybody. My name is Phil Abonti. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counterrevolutionary. Let's get into it.
Tim Pool
Here's a story. We got it from the Daily Mail. Trump's gut wrenching reaction to seeing Ukrainian refugee murder video as he slams Democrats for ignoring it. Indeed, they're now some starting to come out and say maybe we need to deal with this crime. But let me just stress this as we pull up alx as the Alex on X has the statement directly from the President. I'm just, I'm sick and tired of Democrats ignoring the problems. Having strongholds in these cities where the problems have persisted for generations. In Chicago for instance, over 100 years. And then they have the nerve to tell us who've suffered under this crime, we are wrong and we should not be afforded the protection from the federal government. Spare me. Here's what Trump had to say. I have seen the horrific video of a beautiful young Ukrainian refugee who came to America to escape the vicious war in Ukraine and was innocently riding the metro in Charlotte, North Carolina where she was brutally ambushed by a mentally deranged lunatic. The perpetrator was a well known career criminal who had been previously arrested and released on cashless bail in, in January a total of 14 times. What the hell was he doing riding the train and walking the streets? Criminals like this need to be locked up. The blood of this innocent woman can literally be seen dripping from the killer's knife. And now her blood is in the hands of Democrats who refuse to put bad people in jail, including former disgraced governor and wannabe Senator Roy Cooper. North Carolina and every state needs law and order and only Republicans will deliver it. Additionally, where is the outrage from the mainstream media on this horrible tragedy? Vote for Michael Watley for United States Senate. He won't let this happen again. This guy was arrested 14 times. It's absolutely, absolutely insane. And I'll just say I these, these, these well to do liberals, they debate me on the issue. They argue with me on X, don't live in these areas, don't see the crime, have not had friends of theirs killed or in gangs or dying from drugs. And then when I say, actually I think it's good Trump who wants to send in federal law enforcement, they say, but that's fascism. So they're. It's not, it's literally not. But I'm supposed to live under the boot of gang bangers because they don't like Trump. Spare me.
Phil Abonti
I mean, it's ridiculous. I mean, this is, I think, the biggest part of the story, at least as far as I'm concerned, is how slow the mainstream news was to catch on. And then their initial reaction was, oh, Republicans pounce. Like, this kind of story, like this type of story is something that the media covers all the time. And everyone knows why they didn't want to cover this because it makes the, it, it makes the argument that the, the conservatives have been making about crime and stuff. That makes it more pressing, it makes people more aware of it. And so they didn't want to get into it because it's a total loser for them. Their whole narrative is, is, is basically destroyed by this. So I don't, I mean, I, I don't know what the solution is. I don't know that having the National Guard is going to do anything about this. Like the, the guy, you know, there was no warning or anything like that. Even like Daniel Penny, the. He would.
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Phil Abonti
Do anything or he wouldn't have. Him being on the same, you know, train wouldn't have fixed anything because the guy just out of nowhere stabbed the girl.
Shane Cashman
If you see the video, I'm so sick. Sorry. I'm so sick of seeing people who've been incarcerated so many times performing these brutal acts. You know, it's like every violent crime we've seen lately, it's like he was on our radar. We've had him in the system and it's just a consequence of how defunct the justice system is, how defunct policing is right now.
Phil Abonti
To your point about the justice system, one of the things that I, my first initial reaction was, hey, I know that this is, we can't do this now, but we should in the future make it so that way judges that allow people like this to go free.
Shane Cashman
Yeah.
Phil Abonti
There's repercussions if, if you as a judge say, okay, we're going to lower your bail or we're going to let you go off in, you know, for a short, you're only going to have to do a short amount time or whatever reason that some kind of. All right, look, this is, this is on you. If it goes bad, some kind of, you know, some something. Whether it be like my gut reaction was, you know, the judge should be brought up on manslaughter charges, which obviously is not going to happen now because it's not legal now, but there should be changes to the law. So that way there is negative repercussions for a judge if they say, well, we're just going to let this person go because right now there's no reason not to.
Tim Pool
Here's, here's, here's the big debate for everybody. The killer is on camera. Everyone's seen the video of him murdering this young woman. Capital punishment, Yay or nay.
Shane Cashman
I don't agree with it.
Tim Pool
With, with that death penalty.
Shane Cashman
I hate the death penalty. I don't think the government can be trusted with anything. I want him locked up forever and rotting. I just don't trust capital punishment.
Tim Pool
And I actually want the death penalty. But I agree with you.
Shane Cashman
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And this is the challenge. I think emotionally and logically, we are all sitting here saying, clearly this career criminal who had been arrested numerous times for violent offenses against individuals and then murdered. Someone is not going to be rehabilitated. He is clearly mentally broken and he is going to kill again if released. And I think he had actually just been released previously, like shortly before this and then he did. And so my gut reaction is, okay, we've seen enough. What do we do? However, my concern is of course creating a system by which the government has the authorities to kill people.
Shane Cashman
Now, do you want it, do you want capital punishment as a deterrence for crime or justice? Like how do you see prevents more.
Tim Pool
Crime, do you think?
Shane Cashman
I don't think it. I don't think it does.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Abonti
It prevents them from repeat offending. It prevents individual that dead.
Tim Pool
Yes, yes.
Wade Miller
Well, I am for the death penalty. I think there should be higher evidentiary standards. I think that we. It's maybe applied too much. The real problem though is as AI gets better, I don't like. I don't trust video increasingly.
Shane Cashman
Exactly.
Wade Miller
In this case. Is that the video? I'm sure it is. But this is, you know, systematic of a social justice narrative by the left to just not enforce the law at large. And so what they're doing is, is they are. They have been basically substantiating the ability for the Trump administration to come in and under various authorities. In fact, we wrote about this with the authorities that the president would have to do this three years ago anticipating just this type of moment. What happened in the last Trump administration is during the BLM riots, I think the president wanted to act, he wanted to secure these communities. And I think. I don't know, but I think he was given bad legal advice. And so part of what we wanted to do is make the argument going into this administration that if the left tries to re. Redo that, that the president actually can. I think his lawyers this time are advising him much better and advising him that he does have the authority to go in and secure these cities in certain circumstances under certain conditions. And sending ICE to Chicago, for instance, if we start seeing violence against ice, will be the predicate then by which the President can send National Guard in to protect ICE and to help them enforce the law.
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah, well. And like we'd be remiss to not point out, I mean, Will Kane was discussing it on Fox News earlier, is the reason this story specifically is animating so many people. Why people are so fired up is because of the races of the individuals that were involved is you had a black man and a white woman and people are pointing out the massive discrepancy in crime where they're saying, well black men specifically are committing a very disproportionate amount of violent crime and people are really, this is starting a conversation that I think the left has not wanted had for years.
Tim Pool
Oh yeah, I mean these, it's wild. I've been talking about the pendulum swing on Instagram where it's not even the question of the facts of the matter but on X 7 years ago if you posted FBI crime stats insta ban just literally the FBI says a thing happen. You're like oh hey look at this, they got you, you're banned. Not anymore, not anymore. I, I, I made this post a moment ago from Grock and and Chat GBT and, and, and let's, let's break it down. This is just the stats on interracial crime, black on white versus white on black to which I asked Chat GPT about this. They responded in 2022 there were 543,480 black on white violent incidents compared to 96,550 white on black incidents. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization victimization survey table 14. This represents a 462.8% increase in black on white incidents versus white on black. When adjusted for population, a Black individual was about 26 times more likely to attack a white individual than the reverse Based on the 2022 U.S. census population data estimates. It then provided me with a summary list of sources. Now this is just an image. Someone asked Grok, are these stats accurate? To which Grok responded yes, the stats match the Bureau of Justice Stats NCVS 2022 report estimating again 543,480 black on white versus 96,500 white and black, 462.8% higher raw count and 26 times population adjusted likelihood align with the data. These are survey based estimates with some limitations like victim perceived race. The point is, nothing that I am saying is intended to slight someone based on their race. I am simply showing the data right now and the reason why I did this too. There's two big reasons why I looked this up. I was curious and I think it's important that people understand what is happening right now in culturally as to why this story about Arena Zaruska is going so massively viral. Now they're trying to delete it on Wikipedia they're saying it's not news. The corporate press saying it's racist and it's not news. And these people are insane. And because of their lies and manipulations you're actually breeding racism. It's actually making. You are not getting legitimate journalism. You are not breaking down what is going on with crime in this country. And it is just resulting in people saying you can't trust the pressure and going to other sources where you're going to get data that's less, less than accurate or otherwise. Banning people doesn't solve the problem. It never did. And now people are asking questions about why doesn't anyone care? And you know what? Even I think people, I don't know, even Nick Fuentes has a video going viral that Instagram is promoting to millions and millions of people where he outright says he's not saying individual black people are, you know, doing bad things or whatever, but he's pointing out these stats. And then when you get the media covering it up, you get this question of, you get the cultural question of why is the media lying about it, what is their angle on this and what are the actual causes that we're not getting able to discuss because you'll get banned or censored. Now I was saying the pendulum has swung the other way. We can actually talk about these crime stats and I'm not going to sit here and tell you that, you know, you're going to judge an individual based on the color of their skin. In fact, quite, quite the opposite. But there's a reason why this story has gone viral and it's because people are tired of being lied to about it.
Tate Brown
Yeah, well, I mean like you just have to ask people that grew up in Chicago or Memphis or these like we've, we've noticed these sorts of things happening. But you're supposed to just ignore your lying eyes and the media refuses to report on it. I mean, I don't, I don't know. It makes, it makes whatever implications there are, it makes you suspicious of like why there's such a all out blitz.
Tim Pool
It's an agenda.
Tate Brown
Right, Exactly.
Tim Pool
Let me, let me pull this clip up. We've got this post from ALX on x. He says CNN's former palace eunuch Brian Stelter on X, on exes covering the murder of Irina Zarutska in Charlotte. The open racism on sites like X today is eye popping. Okay, let's, let's roll tape. Really. Over the weekend, Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, other Trump aligned figures succeeded in making this senseless death a symbol of big stuff. We heard President Trump asked about it yesterday when he was heading home from New York City. He didn't seem to know much about it. He said he would get briefed and then today Trump did know all about it. That's exactly what has happened here. This story has trickled up from SO from local news to social media and now to the President's attention. And it's being used, as you said, Brianna, as a political symbol with MAGA media calling for more forceful punishments and more incarceration. I have to say some of the replies to Musk, some of the comments around this story are baldly racist, stoking fear of African Americans because this man attacked a white woman. The open racism on sites like X today. It's eye popping. But there are also legitimate questions about this so called career criminal. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.
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Shane Cashman
Love to see a highlight reel of Stelter from the Floyd Days. What he was saying about cops, you know.
Tate Brown
Yeah. And like the racism that he's talking about. He's not talking about like the far right people who are like seizing on this and spouting whatever. He's talking about people like yeah, like Will Kane or Tim Pool that are just posting data.
Tim Pool
Said Charlie Kirk.
Tate Brown
Charlie Kirk, right. Like. And he's. And he's saying open racism like it's racist to like data.
Tim Pool
I understand he's pointing out that there are going to be replies to these posts. The problem I have with it is Guy, an anonymous person, an anonymous account on X which is probably originating in India or Turkey is not indicative of what Charlie Kirk or Will Kaine think about the issue. Interestingly, however, I was having dinner with the family watching Will Kane as I do every day at 4pm shout out to the Will Kane show and he brought up the crime stats which is why I had that post from Grok. I saw his show and he mentioned the interracial crime stats from 2023 and how you are more likely to see black on white violence than white on black violence. I, I'm not going to look at that and then be like I have a negative feeling towards someone basically. Quite. Not at all. Not at all. But I think it's fair to say, hey, look at the crime stats. Maybe we can dig into this and figure out how we solve for this problem and actually repair the damage of race and whatever it may be by obvious getting and covering it up. They've made it worse every step of the way. I think that's the intention of the.
Wade Miller
Democrats and if you flip the map on this and you say, okay, 462.8% increase and let's just concede, even though I think most of them are false, well, let's just concede their arguments and over policing and bias in policing and all these things. It doesn't pass a smell test that that's 462.8% of the reason. And so, so this gets to what's actually going on. There's a big problem in the culture of African American communities, not everyone. It's not a genetic disorder. It's, it's not inherent in their genes. There's a problem and the left doesn't want to talk about why because that gets into what does it take to actually fix this problem. And it would help the black community. It would help all of America. The left doesn't want to have that conversation. And they want to call anyone who wants to have an honest conversation about that racist.
Tim Pool
I think it's because you want a victim narrative. You can go to these neighborhoods and say, it's not your fault. Vote for us and we'll fix it. It's them. They're demagoguing. And so I had a great interview with Christian Maxwell. She's running in Illinois CD1. She's a conservative, running in a D + 18 district, agreeing with Trump, saying, we need the National Guard. And she's talking about how they're lying to everybody. They're saying that the National Guard's gonna come in and start rounding people up and going. That's not at all what they're gonna do. They're gonna come in and provide assistance to the local governments, freeing up resources for police. Police can get back to doing their jobs. What's. When you're talking about the problem, the culture. I'll tell you this, I'm from one city and everyone knows I'm from Chicago. I've been screaming at about it, but forgive me, Trump is talking about sending in the National Guard. And I'm here to say I agree as someone from Chicago, and I will tell you this. There are many neighborhoods in Chicago and they're all segregated by race for the most part. There's white areas, Hispanic areas, black areas, and when you look at a lot of the high crime areas, guess what? Predominantly black. However, when you look at Hyde park, it's got double the national average, more than double the national average of the black population, and lower than average crime. The issue, the black families that live there are well off educated. Just like any other lower crime neighborhood, you're going to see higher rates of successful professionalism. And I think we have a cultural issue that 100 years of democratic rule has entrenched intentionally. The issue is not the race. The issue is not genetic or anything like that. The issue is there is a culture that I've personally experienced where they tell the kids in the neighborhood, don't act white and you have to be hard. They tell them things like, I swear I'm hanging out with some of my friends on the south side and it's three black kids, we're going skateboarding. And when they were talking, one of them said, well, I haven't been to jail yet, but. And I'm like, whoa, bro, bro, don't go to jail. Like, why are you talking like that, man? Because that's what they're told in their neighborhood. You will go to jail. It's going to happen. That's the way it goes. As if they're telling these kids, if you want to go hard and you don't want to act white, you will do things that will put you in jail. And I'm like, man, you guys gotta get out of that stuff. Make money, get paid. One of my favorite stories ever was this black dude in my neighborhood who sold T shirts. I've told the story a million times, forgive me, but for those that didn't hear it, and he was ragging on the drug dealers saying, you make more money selling T shirts than selling dope. And then he told this story about how not a story, but like, literally what he does. He said he calls the local venues for the weekends, asks he figures out who the bands are. He calls the bands and says, do you have merch? And if they don't, I'll make merch for you and I'll give you 20% of everything I sell. And he was like, bro, I make like two, three grand a week. Working, working two days a week. He's like, I go to the print shop. I literally just put the band's graphic, their own graphic on a shirt. I go to their show and I sit there and I sell it. I give the band 20%. I make a couple grand. And he was like, why the you sound dope, man? It's because the people in the neighborhood are telling them that's the way you do it. Even though they didn't make that much money, they put themselves at risk. And then the problem is when I say stuff like this, when I point out the high crime rates, it's people like Brian Stelter and the corporate press who say you're racist. The actual reality is the cops are doing it on purpose. And I'm like, dude, you're not gonna tell me that the gangbangers in the leclair courts where I was growing up in Chicago were oppressed. And that's why they came to my neighborhood and robbed all my friends. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Tate Brown
Yeah, well, it's. And it's like kind of what you're hitting on is like, specifically the cultural component is we shouldn't be surprised at all that there's this huge disparity. Because, I mean, within the black community, but broadly in America, there's just. There's huge anti white rhetoric going on. And it's like, you shouldn't be surprised when whites are demonized. You're gonna get an increase in violence towards them. I Mean, everyone's scratching their heads, and.
Shane Cashman
It'S like, it's also a high rate of fatherlessness and a lot of nihilism because they're generationally, you know, they have no meaning because they're seeing what's around them. And it's a lot of drugs and gang banging. And so they don't have any. Any life to live for a lot of these young kids. They'll. And they'll die young because of it.
Tim Pool
This is what really blew my mind in. In, you know, I. I don't think I've ever had any kind of, like, traditional red pilling, you know, Like, Dave Rubin was a liberal, and then he was like, like, holy crap, something's wrong. I was always kind of middle of the road. When I was younger, I was a little bit left. But I'll tell you in. In the 2010s, I did a documentary on St. Louis Ferguson, and I can tell you all about how the structures that were set up during the segregation, during the period of segregation resulted in a systemically racist circumstance. That is, the cops in the St. Louis jurisdictions are not inherently racist. Like, the white cop doesn't say, oh, boy, I'm gonna go pull over a bunch of black people. What happens is there's like 99 different jurisdictions. So if you have a busted taillight, you have to drive through five towns to get to work, and you're only driving five miles. You get pulled over five times, you get five tickets, you can't afford it. This. These. These jurisdictions in St. Louis were intentionally set up as enclaves for white people who are leaving the cities because of. It's very, very complicated. But I mentioned Pruitt Igoe one of the first project housing systems set up in the United States. It was left underdeveloped. It was. They didn't take care of it. It fell apart. Then crime started to take over and. No. And then it fell apart. Then you ended up with this heavily impoverished area living in a giant slum. White people leave. They created smaller townships. Now you've got all these different police jurisdictions, and you've got pockets of black neighborhoods that are still struggling to get out of that cycle of poverty. But what the left will tell you, it's. The white cop is racist and hates black people. I'm like, no, no, no. The white cop literally has no idea. He's just like, I don't know, man. Your tail light was out. You can't do that. You got to get it fixed. But what happens when you've got a whole Bunch of small jurisdictions. So in places like Chicago, you had redlining and blockbusting, and that's where the real estate market negatively impacted black families, made it harder for them to generate wealth in their properties. And it did create these. These weights on these. These communities. But I'll tell you this. The solution to it is not what the left is offering up. And that's where it got confusing to me when I'm like, hey, guys, like, when we talk about redlining, that's where the real estate company, like, the. What it would collude to be, like, only sell to black people in these neighborhoods to keep them out of the white neighborhoods. When they would do something like that, you create impoverished neighborhoods. And when I would talk to the left about this, they'd be like, no, no, no, no, don't bring that up. Just bring up the racist cops. And I'm like, this would solve the problem. Like, we can. We can address the problem and make this problem go away. Now they don't care. They didn't care.
Wade Miller
And that's the thing, is that everyone admits it historically and even until relatively recently, there were hurdles as a community that they have faced. But the problem is, is that the answers the left have been providing clearly aren't working. The data showing that it's not working. And so we have to admit that before we can and have a conversation as to why it's not working and be able to have that conversation in a setting where you're not being called a racist or canceled or fired from your job. And if we can do that, then we can actually find some answers to this problem. But again, I don't think that the left politically wants to solve this problem. There's too much for them to lose.
Tim Pool
They will lose votes. Yeah, they will. They will lose their cult narrative. Let's jump to this next story. Let's. Gentlemen, I have an article from Wikipedia. This is titled the Wikipedia Articles for Deletion Killing of Irina Zarutska. Now, why would this be nominated for deletion? So the article discussing Arena Zarutska's killing was nominated for deletion. And up until just now, it was facing deletion. Until users came in and said, what the. No, you can't delete this. This is absolutely wild. So the way it works for those aren't familiar on Wikipedia is that you'll go in, it's a nomination for deletion, and then you add your two cents. Keep the article you'll write. Keep. If you want to delete it, you'll say, Delete and explain why. What's absolutely amazing about this is that while there are many people saying keep, it's kind of ridiculous to delete say massive news story. Here's one. Let me read this. Delete. There may be a case for a very small mention under link's blue line controversies, but this is a standard wrong place, wrong time story that if it was a regular Charlotte resident would have would have the standard short arrest, arraignment, trial and sentencing check ins by Charlotte's local news and no more the document. Every crime ever side of. You know Wikipedia really needs to make better judgments. There are numerous Delete. Unless significant notable coverage is derived outside of a generic run of the mill crime content, this is blah blah delete. There is zero indication that this specific article is anywhere near getting the requirements for for WP and event national event. There are people in social media and other venues are trying to make this into something far greater than it really merits. Let me just tell you what they're saying. What they are saying by trying to delete this article is if the people, if the people say this story is massive, delete it until the corporate press agrees. They're basically saying you the people don't have a right to decide what matters to you and what is worthy of entrance into the archives. When the New York Times writes it up, whether anyone cares, it gets its own article. Quite literally. A guy at the New York Times can write the stupidest article about things you don't care about and they will say national event. But when tens of millions of views, hundreds of thousands of retweets, conversations for days at the national and international level are hitting social media, they say yeah, but CNN didn't write about it, so delete it. That's the narrative machine right there is the story.
Shane Cashman
The non story is part of the story. The fact that it's so big online and then there's radio silence on mostly all the major platforms, that is a huge thing. It's not like just, just a one off thing for the dude. Like I said earlier, guy was arrested many times and he was saying he was totally schizophrenic guy saying he had man made implants in him.
Phil Abonti
His mother was saying that he should be. She, she put him away, right? And his mother was like he shouldn't have been out, right?
Shane Cashman
Like it's a huge story. Like no matter who writes about it or not.
Phil Abonti
But the reason, the reason the left doesn't or one of the reasons why the left doesn't want to cover it is because of how many of their narratives it destroys. Oh, yeah, right. The right wants to see more mental institutions. Wants to see, you know, better, better ways to take care of violent people, whether they be, you know, criminals or whether they be just in some kind of, you know, mental, mental institution for lack of.
Tim Pool
Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.
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That's not the itinerary we're following.
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Phil Abonti
A better term. And that's. This plays right into that. So the left doesn't want to talk about it. The, the right says that there's an, an epidemic of crime. There's too much crime. The left says, no, it's fine. This plays right into it. The, the, the right says that we need DAs and we need judges that are actually going to put people away. And, and the left says, no, we don't. We need restorative justice, et cetera. This plays right into the. The right. The left doesn't want to touch this at all. And the reason is because it literally blows up all of their narratives.
Shane Cashman
It would be like a parent who trans their kid trying to accept that that was the bad thing to do. Yeah, they've been selling this narrative the whole time. And look how quick these ghoulish journalists are willing to stand on top of any other corpse. Right? But this one they'll just ignore till it goes away. But it won't.
Phil Abonti
Yeah, hopefully.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Tate Brown
Well, I mean, it's just a huge containment breach, like you're saying. Because, I mean, for the longest time, like you were saying is anytime you would start sniffing around, you know, data and these sorts of things, they would just shout, you down call you racist. Brian Stelzer comes out, does the whole song and dance but like it's gotten to the point now where yeah, I mean Fox News are having to cover this. I mean it's like it's time to have a conversation.
Tim Pool
Will Will Kane show doing a here's interracial crime stance. Yeah, I'm like, wow, pendulum swing.
Tate Brown
Three years ago you get banned like as an anon for hey, do you.
Phil Abonti
Do you think that Gen Z is intimidated by being called racist anymore? I feel like there's not a lot of people in Gen Z that care. I mean there's a lot of people on the right that are kind of over it and just like I don't care what you call me because you're going to call me that anyways. You know, if you, if you, if you can get call accused of being a racist for wearing the wrong kind of hairstyle, you know, it kind of has diluted the accusation almost totally. And I, I think that part of it's that.
Tate Brown
But also because Gen Z has nothing to lose because of how broken the institutions are where like if you're older and you get fired from your job or you know, socially ostracized, like that's going to wreck your life. But Gen Z is already unemployed and socially ostrous. I suppose part of it too is just they feel like they have nothing to lose. They understand what the weight of the racism label means, but to a large degree they're like, I don't care. I care about truth. I'm not worried about Brian Stelzer calling me a racist.
Tim Pool
But you do have nothing to lose. Yeah, Gen Z women don't want to have kids. Not going to own a house. Good luck finding a job. Population's collapsing. We got the last chap out of now, buddy.
Tate Brown
Yeah, real. Yeah. So we shouldn't be surprised. And then yeah, the media, you know, everything. It's like, no, we go to Twitter for information anyway. Like I'm not whether or not there's a Wikipedia article that doesn't mean anything to me because I don't use Wikipedia Wikipedia for information. It's like you're, you're looking at the discussion on Twitter in real time and it's very important people as well. It's not just like random anons like it used to be.
Phil Abonti
I have a question for everyone around the, around the table. Who do you think is worse? The moderators on Reddit or the people that are writing Wikipedia articles?
Shane Cashman
That's a really good question.
Tim Pool
That's a Trick question. Of the same group, same people. But yeah, you're probably right.
Tate Brown
Yeah, it's the whole monitors have grown up and that's what they.
Tim Pool
Oh dude, Reddit is just absolutely hilarious.
Phil Abonti
Reddit's. Reddit is taking down posts about this like mad right now.
Tim Pool
If you, if you comment on certain subreddits, even in opposition and like there are certain gaming subreddits where you'll say something like, I'm not a fan of this game, you'll get instantly banned from a whole bunch of other on it, like just non political subreddits because the moderators are like, anybody on the right or who interacts is unpersoned. That's how insane and stupid Reddit is. What? Good riddance.
Tate Brown
Yeah. I mean you're seeing black people who are like, we should have a conversation as a community about how bad violent crime's getting. You're seeing them get banned and they're like, they're the ones that are saying, no, we're saying we need to have an internal conversation about what's going on. So it's like, it's literally just shut this down, get this out of the news cycle, whatever we have to do. It doesn't even matter if you're banning like left leaning black people for having the conversation.
Tim Pool
This was I think like the first time one of the major national liberal outlets wrote about it.
Phil Abonti
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Stabbing video fuels maga's crime message. To which their principal argument is the video is easily shared or leaked and can instantly pollinate across social media. A visual counterpoint to statistics showing crime decreases. So let me just, just point out real quick, when these corporate news outlets decide if something is a story and write about it, they did not have a grassroots bubbling up of a story. This stabbing happened several weeks ago and it took a while for people to notice. Get mad about it, start sharing it, start saying to each other like, hey guys, we should be talking about this because it wasn't coming from the principal large corporate disseminators of information. But the fascinating thing about this is Axios. How about this? I go to Axios, let's see what they think is worthy of news. Coming soon. The Axios show. Okay, to be fair, telling people who read your website about your own news show is something. But I'm going to make this argument, I'm going to play the same game as Axios. That's not news. Axios is leveraging their website to profit off of an audience trying to find out information on a murder. The funny thing is when they Write that MAGA is using and sharing videos. What? Yes, it's called the news. Yeah. And they're acting like Trump supporters. It's not even just Trump supporters did something wrong for being like, I am concerned about this murder.
Phil Abonti
Yeah, Well, I mean, it's the. The Republicans pounce when you don't have, you know, when the story blows up your narrative so badly, the only thing you have left is to say, look, the Republicans are bad for talking about this.
Tim Pool
Here's. Here's what they think is. Is bigger news. Kushner joins Witkoff to meet Netanyahu advisor on Gaza.
Phil Abonti
Super big news.
Tim Pool
Sure. I mean, it's not. Not news. But my point is this. A woman is brutally murdered for no reason. And. And the man has a blade dripping with blood as she dies in front of a crowd. And they're like, but. But advisors are meeting. And that's. That's the game. I'm not saying that this is not important news. Of course it's important news. But the idea that Axios would play the game, that individuals sharing video make something that shouldn't be news. News. You just arbitrarily decide when you think something should be on your front page. You hypocrites.
Wade Miller
I also think, to your Gen Z point, that the reason this really jumped off is in an era where everything is racist, nothing is racist, and they just don't care. It's kind of impressive seeing this newer generation. They just don't care. They see that they know something's wrong, and so they're. They just push it out. And, you know, it's.
Tim Pool
That's.
Wade Miller
It's great.
Tim Pool
It's the. It's the syndrome meme when. When. When everyone is racist, no one will be.
Phil Abonti
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And that's. That's Instagram right now, I'm telling you.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Like, Gen Z on Instagram is just. They're just as racist as they could possibly be. I've never seen a more racist generation.
Shane Cashman
Five years ago, they were told they were racist for not posting a black square on Instagram. You know, so it's gonna go the other way.
Phil Abonti
I think part of it is the fact that, like, the Black Lives Matter narrative has been so utterly destroyed. Right. Whether it be body. The. The results of having police have body cameras all the time.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Phil Abonti
You see so many interactions with police where you, you know, the person would be saying, oh, you know, I was. I was, you know, it was. They were racist, blah, blah, blah. But you see, no, these interactions with the police. The police are doing their best to do Their job and they get attacked.
Wade Miller
And that was supposed to change the game. We were supposed to know because now they have these body cams. The data didn't change, even though they.
Tate Brown
All now have these body cams.
Phil Abonti
Sean Fitzgerald had the best take on this. He said, this is the ultimate monkey's paw wish, because Black Lives Matter said, we want to get body cams. We know. We'll prove these cops are racist. We'll prove these cops are tracking down young black men and killing them, blah, blah, blah. They got exactly what they wanted and it proved the exact opposite of what they said. And it's. Well, it's something that everyone has known for a long time, or at least the statistics. The FBI has known. The statistics have been there. Basically, it's about 12 to 15. 15 unarmed black men are killed a year when interacting with the police. Now, that doesn't mean that they were com. Were doing what the police says. It doesn't mean that they were complying with the orders. It just means that they were unarmed and they ended up dead with an interaction with the police.
Tim Pool
I'd like to say that the ultimate monkey's paw wish was the leftist taking the pawn, saying, I wish that this country had a racial awakening. Yeah. And then 10 years later, a whole bunch of white people are like, let's have a conversation about the racism.
Phil Abonti
What the argument that we were making when, or at least I was making when people were talking about crt. Crt, Critical Race Theory literally awakens a critical racial consciousness in the people. When you teach people there's going to be that kind of mindset to see the world in that way, there's going to be a certain percentage of the people that are going to say, okay, I see this and I don't care. I don't feel bad. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not going to hate myself or my friends or my family because the wrong color.
Tim Pool
I want to point this out real quick on Google. I. I searched New York times Irina Zarudska AI overview. As of September 8, 2025, there is no evidence the New York Times has published a story specifically about Arena Zyritska. This has become a point of controversy and criticism with some media commentators and conservative news outlets. Others out have covered the story. New York Times doesn't care. They could write it up, they just don't care. It's remarkable. What they're telling you is they decide what the narrative will be, not you. Well, I think we're winning this one. We're changing the game.
Tate Brown
Yeah, well, like, Phil, it's like you were talking about where you're seeing with Zoomers, our reaction to this. It's like. Cause we grew up. I mean, I'm 24, so I grew up. You know, the Michael Brown, all that stuff happens. I'm a teenager. And then as I'm matriculating into adult life, the BLM riots are going on in 2020, and you see that. But then you live somewhere like Memphis, and you look around and see where the violent crime is happening and by who. And you're sitting there like, okay, who's being victimized here in American society? Is it black men by police officers? Or is it like white men and women just trying to ride the train? And it's like you're supposed to, you know, you're not supposed to believe your lying eyes or whatever. And it's like, yeah. And then you get on Instagram and people are expressing like, no, I think who's being victimized by who is completely. The priorities are completely out of whack.
Phil Abonti
I mean, the stats we ran at the beginning of the show, you know, 500 and something. Thousand.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Abonti
You know, white people are victimized by black people and something like 92,000. 92,000 black.
Tim Pool
462% higher. Yeah. Black on white, then white.
Tate Brown
But we're burning cities down for like what, 12?
Tim Pool
That's why liberals doing it.
Tate Brown
Yeah, that too, as well. Yeah.
Tim Pool
We got this story from the New York Post, ladies and gentlemen, with the story about Arena Zyrutska going viral on Saturday. Another story. Auburn veterinary professor hacked to death by fiend while walking her dog in the park. This woman went to the park to walk her dog when a man allegedly stabbed her to death. And for seemingly no reason. The worrying thing is that these stories happen quite a bit. Quite a bit. In 2022, the number was 542,000 black on white crimes and 96,000 white on black crimes. I normally don't care to pull these stats up. I gotta be honest. You know, the Will Kane show pulled them up. I don't really care because I'm like, listen, people shouldn't be allowed to be violent. I don't care about your race. The cops should arrest them and we should have right to defend ourselves. And if I don't know if it matters for me as an individual walking down the street, the race of the individual who's coming to cause harm to me, what matters in that moment is can I protect myself and defend myself in Democrat run cities? The answer is no. If I call the police. Are they gonna help me in Democrat run cities? The answer is no. Certainly there is a sociological element where we can say there's an interesting phenomenon where black on white crime is 462% higher than white on black crime. Certainly that's not going to protect people in the immediate short term. These stories are happening and they're picking up steam. And the Arena Zarutska story is going viral and this story is now starting to go viral because people are tired of one being lied to by the left about police brutality. And I'll tell you this personally, Chicago is tired of 100 years of Democrat supermajority with nothing being done about the crime. Nothing. And so when Trump says National Guard now, he said, Chicago is going to learn why we call it the Department of War. Okay, I get it. It's not very delicate, Trump, but I don't care. I say, trump, send in the troops. And I got these liberals like, you really want National Guard in your transit? Yes. It's wild. I tweeted, if there was one National Guard member on that train, this wouldn't have happened. And I get these liberals being like, and now you want National Guard members on trains. And I'm just sitting here thinking, like, I've, I've been on the train with the National Guard before. I have been in cities during riots where National Guard was deployed and they're on the trains and you know what happens? It's going to, it's going to, it's going to terrify you. I say, howdy. And they go, how's it going? And then I get off the train. What do they think is going to happen? I'm going to get a cheeseburger. I know it's bothering me.
Phil Abonti
If I can't carry my gun on the train, I would like a National Guard member with a rifle loaded, please. I'm going to. On the train.
Tim Pool
I got to push back on that one. I don't like the government telling me I can't carry my weapon and then sending in troops with guns. That's how they get you. Sure. However, that being said, this is, this is a jurisdictional issue where Chicago causes problems for gun owners. And Trump, the federal government says, we're going to put a stop to what they're doing. In fact, the Supreme Court, the federal level made it. It was 2010, McDonald v. Chicago, where the Supreme Court was like, you can't stop people from carrying weapons outside the house. Illinois. And they were pissed. And they put up a bunch of signs all over all the city buildings with big, like no gun with a line through it like you can't do. Well, Supreme Court, the federal government came to protect us from the tyranny of, tyranny of the Democrats in Chicago. Right now they're stopping us from defending ourselves. So in this capacity, I say send to the National Guard.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Armed or otherwise. I literally don't care. I would rather be on a train with 50 National Guard doing jumping jacks and hooraying or whatever than one gangbanger.
Phil Abonti
I think it would, I think it would be better if not. Look, I know that Chicago's got problems. There are plenty of cities that have problems. It might be a better idea for the Trump administration to send the National Guard into blue cities in red states. He'll get less pushback from the governments. He'll, from the governors. He'll see, you know, real tangible results.
Tim Pool
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Will Kane
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Phil Abonti
Can blame the Democrats for why there are red, why there are blue cities in red states that have less crime than the blue cities in the blue states.
Tim Pool
But they're not really. That's the problem. Red states, their cities are slightly smaller. And when they do have bad crime, it's not anywhere near as bad as Chicago. Chicago, look, shout out to Baltimore, Baltimore's bad, but Chicago is in terms of crime, in my opinion, Chicago is the capital of the country. I'll tell you why it's not the highest murder rate per capita. I think it might have the overall highest murder rate in general. But the issue with Chicago is the institutionalized criminal activities, the corrupt politicians.
Phil Abonti
It's been that way since the forever.
Tim Pool
I'm like, bro, it's been 100 prohibition, 100 years of Democrat rule and Al Capone. That was the crime. It never stopped. There's been gangs and gang bangers and crime in Chicago forever. So it's not just murder, it's organized crime. You've got the cops operating black sites and torturing people. It is miserable. Trump, just send in the feds, take it over, shut it down, all right? They are not abiding by the Constitution and protecting the rights of the American citizens who live there. And as someone who was from there, I wish I didn't have to leave. I like Chicago, but I always tell people it sucks and it sucks that I have to say that I think Chicago's got the best food.
Shane Cashman
That's how I feel about New York. You know, I had to leave New York because how crazy it was when we were living in Brooklyn and going to Manhattan a bunch and getting threatened on the trains all the time. I gotta say though, I think this problem is beyond even the National Guard. I think there's so much nihilism in these criminals and mental illness. I don't even think seeing a guard is going to stop a lot of them. It might, they might be taken down immediately. But like in terms of nyc, Hochul put the National Guard in the subways and you can go look up how many insane things have happened in the.
Tim Pool
Past 10 years when she did that, where the Democrat, Democrats are all pissed off now, but she did it. Come on and good, do it right. So I'll tell you this. If in Chicago I can only speak for my neighborhood. And I know you know, I'm telling Shane this. You guys already know this. I talked about this morning, my neighborhood. We had 47th street north of 47th was all black. It's called the LeClaire Courts. It's been demolished by the Democrats. They just flattened it along with, you know, they just saw all the other black neighborhoods in project housing. Black teenagers, men and women, boys and girls, would come across south into the predominantly white and Hispanic neighborhood where I lived and just mug you. This flash mugging. Five guys surround you, frisk you, and take everything and just. And then break. And they're gone. Everything you have is gone. Cops wouldn't do anything about it because they were like, if we were to come here, every time we'd be arresting so many black people would be copyright. They'd call us racist. So we just. We won't do anything about it. You take two unarmed National Guard, you put them in the park, it stops immediately. These, like. I guarantee it.
Shane Cashman
And so I grew up, like, 10 minutes from. From Newburgh, New York, and it was one of the. It's one of the most dangerous cities around, I think maybe top 50. It's really bad. And the feds came in after it was declared to be one of the most dangerous cities, and it never. It didn't really change anything. They had the feds around. They had the. The things that Baltimore has, the things that go off of. They hear a gunshot and they alert the Feds. And it's still just not great. There's parts that are great, but the city is still a mess because I think it's so deeply in the DNA of the city. The violence won't go away.
Tim Pool
I think the problem we have right now is that we have to request National Guard to deal with the crime.
Wade Miller
And the left not policing their own cities sets the legal foundation for Trump to do this. So all Trump has to do legally, there's a lot of different authorities that the President can use, but if the President says that because of the conditions in Chicago or whatever, I am unable to fully enforce federal law, then that's the predicate. That's the only predicate he needs. He can send in the National Guard to facilitate, allowing federal agents within the city to be able to enforce federal law within the city. That case would not. That would. The predicate would not exist if these dim governors and dim mayors would simply just make their city safe.
Shane Cashman
Is it a sustained occupation of the cities by the National Guard? Because, like, once you pull out, if it does. If it does help, which hopefully it would, once they leave, does it just go right back to where it was?
Wade Miller
So it's different. Yeah. I mean, perhaps. But I do think that politically it's important to point out that these cities can be safer. It is an actual decision to make these cities unsafe. It's not that just crime is existing. It's that they're. They're deciding. They're actually deciding to allow it to happen.
Shane Cashman
I saw Giuliani do it to the.
Tate Brown
City where I was living, demonstrated that crime is completely optional. And, like, if you're a citizen of Chicago, the message you're receiving from the government is your life is expendable. And we hate you because you're just saying, okay, can I have a firearm to protect myself from crime? No. Can I have the National Guard here to protect me from crime? No. And it's like, so the message is, we are conducting an experiment here. Your life is expendable. And it's simply a cost of enacting this experiment. That's what the government is telling their people.
Shane Cashman
I've been hearing that from the government my whole life.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Shane Cashman
No matter what, every possible angle, there is a war on all of us.
Wade Miller
And the crazy thing is we have a condition here where the left is doing this on purpose. And then when the president uses actual legal, statutory power, constitutional and statutory power, to try to alleviate and fix this for citizens in their own communities, the left then says that we're fascists. Is it like, well, you know, so fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, exactly. You know, just enforce the law.
Shane Cashman
Yeah. They be. They're able to call him the thing they've been calling him forever. Now they have proof, quote, unquote.
Tim Pool
I just wish we didn't have to result, rely on Federal National Guard deployments to deal with crime and that Democrats actually bothered to deal with the root of what's causing the crime without instead of lying and playing politics to cover it up. I think we talked about just a moment ago with the narrative on racism from the left and not talking about the cultural issues affecting the black community in our major cities. That's not the only source of crime, but it is a large factor in it. And instead the Democrats play this game where they want to keep a voter base entrenched and locked in with the Democratic Party so they never solve the problem so they have a permanent issue. Don't get me wrong, Republicans have been accused of this when I think it was. What was it? 2012. I can't remember when Republicans had the ability to overTurn Obamacare. Maybe 2014. I can't remember. We had on one of the Freedom Caucus guys who told us leadership came to him and said, you're the deciding vote on overturning Obamacare. Vote no. So we can keep the wedge issue so we can keep yelling on TV about it. This is politics in America. They don't actually care to solve our problems.
Shane Cashman
I mean, look at James Fry. Just the other day he told people and those two children were murdered in that church, right? He went out and said, don't pray. We don't need to pray. Same dude who was kneeling at George Floyd's gold casket, crying, putting on that whole performance. We just had Steltre on the screen. Same channel that was telling us it was mostly peaceful riots. It's a war on reality. It's a war on you. And yeah, I don't know how it stops. These people live in a completely different dimension.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this post. We got this from Right Angle News Network. Earmuffs for the kids, graphic language. They say this gang member is issuing a warning to President Trump stating not to send troops to Chicago, warning that the gangs will beat the National Guard. Check this out.
Phil Abonti
Hilarious.
Tim Pool
Trump, do not send the National Guards to Chicago game. Do not, I repeat, do not do it. We are a different breed out here. We are not Los Angeles. We are not Washington D.C. this is Chicago.
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Tim Pool
I'm telling you.
Tate Brown
Them go fight back game.
Tim Pool
Whatever. I don't give a. What you talking about. Them young got switches game. They not going for that, bro. I know a bunch of y' all gonna say, oh, it's the switches. They can't do anything about it. They must go in Chicago. Do y' all know that it's more bad people than good people, bro. There are over 100,000 games in Chicago by the SE. You know what, though? He's like, he's not wrong about Chicago, man. I wouldn't be surprised.
Phil Abonti
He's literally making the argument for the National Guard, first of all. Second of all, switches do not compare to fully automatic belt fed machine, okay? You can have a switch on your Glock, but no one cares when you're, when you're taking a 245, you know, 245.
Tim Pool
It's not even that they have helicopters. Yeah. Like, come on, dude. He's actually largely right. What I would say he's wrong about is telling Trump not to send the National Guard cell fight back, bro. Like, logic, my friend. He's got, he's got to logically assess. He's right. The gangs may fight back. I don't think they will. They may, they do got switches. They are crazy. Chicago is very hard. It's harder than Los Angeles and New York. Chicago gangs, they are, they don't mess around, man. That being said, these, like this, this is what I was saying this morning to like to this guy. I don't think this guy's actually a gang member. They say he's a gang member. Brahma tell you the leaders of the gangs in most cases will not tolerate you bringing heat on the gang. If the National Guard comes to Chicago and gang members decide to go fight the National Guard, the leaders of that gang are going to be like, why are you putting me in the poor house? How are we going to recruit and sell drugs if you are getting Trump to send troops into our neighborhood? If, if the troops come into our area, we go to a different area. You get into a fight with National Guard and now you're out of business. Why would you do that?
Phil Abonti
He did post a follow up to this. I saw, I didn't, I haven't shared it or anything, but I saw that he actually was saying, yo, I'm not in the gang. He was kind of walking it back.
Tim Pool
Because, yeah, that's why I said they call him a gang member. I'm like, this is not a gang member, dude. Yeah, I, I know many gang members. Not, not really. It's been 20 some odd years since I've been. I left Chicago 16 years ago. In my neighborhood, half the people were in the gangs. The gangs were all over the place. They were hanging out at the park, they were selling dope. When the cops would show up, they'd leave. When you, they'd be like, I don't want the heat. I don't want, bro. I don't want to go back to jail and I want to fight.
Wade Miller
I agree with you. I tend to think that they would not mess with the National Guard and if they did, it would be the dumbest thing that they could possibly do. Because if they do that, they are now, the Trump administration could fully invoke the Insurrection act at that point. And you'd have dea, you'd have atf, which should be abolished, but you'd have ATF there. You'd have, you'd have all of these federal agencies, plus active duty military on the streets if they decided to go that route. So I agree with you. I think that they are smart enough to know that this is probably a temporary thing. Stay out of their way. The word would get sent out.
Tim Pool
But part of me is like, bro, I dare you, man. If, if one National Guardsman, Guardsman gets a graze from a bot from a gang. Yeah, the Chicago Gangland narrative is over permanently. Trump's. I'd like to talk big game on this one, but I actually don't know Trump would do it. But in the event something catastrophic happened to the Guard and Trump says that's it, the Marines are going in next, Chicago gangs will cease to exist.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So in reality, if a National Guard member got wounded or something in a fight, I don't think Trump would escalate to the end of the world. But if the gangs actually decided to go full scale on this one and go to war with the National Guard when they came in and Trump did respond, give it a, give it a year or two and there'd be no gangs in Chicago ever again.
Wade Miller
Oh, let me say as a, as a Marine infantryman, I'm 47 in a shell of what I used to be. But they would be chomping at the bit to get at that one. It would be not even a contest.
Tate Brown
Well, these are National Guardsmen that have a chip on their shoulder because they would be presumably from Illinois and they've seen what Chicago's inflicted on the rest of the state. So A, they'd be going with a chip on the shoulder and then B, like you said, they even look at a National Guardsman the wrong way, Trump's gonna make like Bukele's crackdown look like a little birthday party. Like he, it would be everyone in every agency you've never even three letter agencies you never even heard of would be in there.
Phil Abonti
Nobody would take their side. Right. Like if, if the National Guard is there and some dude zips.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Democrats will take this. Well, Democrats are going to be like a local Chicago daycare worker and he's like a gang banging sex trafficker. Yeah. Was, was brutally, was brutally attacked by police after, after accidentally tripping and dropping his switch and unloading on a bunch of National Guardsmen.
Tate Brown
Right.
Shane Cashman
I could see the politicians there spraying.
Tim Pool
Love love slugs the air.
Shane Cashman
I can see the politicians actually being upset that the gangs are gone.
Tim Pool
Well, after 100 years you'd have to, you have to think they want the gangster. 100% are in the gangs. Yes. Like I'm, I'm going to go and assume that Brandon Johnson got vet in and never left and he's been, he's been in the gang since the beginning.
Phil Abonti
Yeah. I mean, look, if, if you see if, if Americans, most Americans, at least real Americans see, you know, some 20 year old, 21 year old private get zipped up by, you know, a gang banger and get sent home in a Box there, it's over.
Tim Pool
I, part of me doesn't really believe Trump would go hard on Chicago because look at 2020, he didn't send in the troops. But I actually would lean more towards not 100%, but greater than chance probability. If something did happen to a National Guard service man or woman, Trump would probably go nuclear because the risk to the military, if not protected and defended by the President. One of the biggest priorities that they had, especially with Hegseth coming in, was trying to figure out how to get recruitment back, getting the DEI out of the military, and telling the brave men and women in this country, we got your back. You sign up, you join up, we got your back. We're going to make something that's, that's going to make you stronger, something to be proud of. If a guard member got shot and Trump was like, no, no, no, no, that's going to be terrible for morale, and it's going to make Trump look like a pussy.
Wade Miller
There's no doubt that Trump will defend law enforcement, and he will defend, he will go hard in the paint to defend law enforcement. But I think that, you know, the point is, is that none of us actually want this to go in this direction. I don't think any of us love the idea of the military going in. It would be way better if the left would just secure their cities, police their cities, put career criminals in jail for a long time, but they refuse to do so, and they're forcing Trump's hand. This is what he has to do. And if they go that route, Trump will respond very strongly. I have no doubt in my mind that he will.
Tate Brown
I mean, the police departments in all these major cities, they could stop this tomorrow. They're just not allowed to. Like, you speak to any of these police, like, you speak to NYPD officer, they know the names and like, like the friends and family of all the troublemakers in the neighborhood where they patrol. Again, I've said it before, crime in 2025 in a modern society is completely optional. The Democrats are just allowing it to happen because they're conducting this blank slate experiment, et cetera, et cetera. Like Bukele has demonstrated. You just literally just decide, actually, no more crime and crime goes away. It's not rocket science. These police officers know exactly what to do, exactly who the problem is. And again, overnight, it'd be done. The Democrats have to take the handcuffs.
Tim Pool
I just, the idea in my mind of going to Chicago and having all of this stuff taken care of, it should be like the greatest thing ever, because I, you know, we. We were in. I was in New York. The riots were kind of bad. And I'm like, man, I don't know if I want to live in the city. It's expensive. Then the. Some dude murdered two cops right in front of my apartment. This was in. I think this was Bush. Was it Bushwick? I can remember it was near Myrtle and Nostrand. So if you want to look that up, two cops sitting in their cars. A guy walked up and just executed them both. And this is because the BLM narrative stuff.
Phil Abonti
Yep.
Tim Pool
That was outside of my apartment. Outside of my apartment and just to the end of the block. And so I was like, I'm going to leave. Then two bombs got planted. Jersey City and Manhattan. I think it was like, 26th street or something. And then I was like, geez, man, it's expensive, and it's getting crazy. So I went. I went to. I was on the Jersey side. I went to Bayonne. Then I went to South Jersey. We were trying to figure out where to go. And I was talking to my wife about it, like, maybe we can go to Chicago. It's a travel hub, so it's really easy to bring guests into Chicago. I think that's, you know, Barstool. Barstool recently set up headquarters there. And then we were like, the corruption of the crime is too. It's too much. The properties we looked at. I was like, not only do we have to worry about the gangs who are going to know, because we do a show that we've got expensive equipment and we'll get robbed in two seconds. We've got to put. No matter what neighborhood we're in, then we got to worry about corrupt city officials, too. They're going to come and they're going to shake us down. All the same. Just stay away from Chicago. That's sad, really.
Tate Brown
Well, yeah. I mean, you're seeing, especially with, like, young people, this huge demand for walkable cities and that sort of thing. And they're having to build these, like, master plan communities out in the rural areas. And I'm like, it's. These cities do exist. They're just off limits. Like, if you're a young person, you're not allowed to live in Chicago because it's just like a total, like, basically a form of suicide in a lot of ways. Because it's like, these cities are just so out of control. And so for young people, just people, everyone of all ages, like massive chunks of your country with really otherwise nice real estate is just completely off limits because of violent crime and totally unacceptable.
Tim Pool
I just want to wake up on Christmas morning with the snow falling and the Christmas tree set up and, you know, the sun is just rising and the kids are running for the Christmas presents and not have to worry about bullets flying and gang bangers and crime and women getting stabbed on the train. And it seems like Democrats in all the major cities want the opposite of that. They want me to wake up instead of seeing a Christmas tree, they want me to see shattered glass in my living room with trees and pine fragments just trailing out. And I can see it going to a car that speeds off with all my presence that's living in Democrat cities.
Tate Brown
Yeah, well, they're prioritizing the, the rights of extremely violent criminals over the rights of 99% of the population that just wants to live their lives.
Tim Pool
It's weird.
Shane Cashman
They want the whole country to be destroyed. That's why they had the borders open.
Tim Pool
Yeah, wide open. I just don't understand it. I feel like we hear these stories about private equity firms that will buy up a company, sell off false assets for a profit and just destroy it. And it's like there's a play there, right? The company makes a million dollars a year. Not a very big company, but if you buy the company for 5 million, sell off all the machinery and all its assets, you'll make 500. You'll make, you'll sell it for all the assets. Sell for 5.5 million. So you buy for 5, you make $500,000 and destroy the business. That's, that's what it seems like Democrats do politically. They say instead of long term success and growth, gut the system, extract as much as you can from the taxpayer, burn it down and run.
Shane Cashman
The left did that in New York City during lockdowns. All these small businesses were destroyed. Everyone left and they bought up all the buildings and they took over the hotels and put illegals in them. Yeah, and gave them.
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Tim Pool
Let's go to that next story from the DHS press release. ICE launches Operation Midway Blitz. You guys know why I love that name? Because I'm from Midway and so when I saw that I was like, really? Are they going to my neighborhood? Today the Department of Homeland Security announced Operation Midway Blitz in honor of Katie Abraham who was killed in a drunk driving hit and run car wreck caused by a criminal illegal alien Julio Cuckoo bowl in Illinois. This ICE operation will target the criminal illegal aliens who flock to Chicago and Illinois because they knew Governor Pritzker and his sanctuary policies would protect them and allow them to roam free in American streets. Wow. They say below are just a handful of the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens, including gang members, drug traffickers, kidnappers and rapists who were released because of Governor Pritzker's sanctuary policies. And they're going to mention this guy, 47 year old battery, aggravated assault, DUI, trespassing, this guy, violent, a domestic violence assault, drug position, drug manufacturing, procuring prostitutes, aggravated unlawful use of weapons. I mean, this is, this is, this is crazy. I'm gonna say it again. I don't know who these people think they are. There's one video where a guy says there's gonna be a civilian uprising against ice. And I'm just sitting here thinking like, I don't know who these people think they are. But you know what, you know what I think happens? Illegal immigrants come to this country, they move to Chicago and then say, we will fight you. We're staying. And me and my friends are all like, dude, we don't know who you are. We have no problem with federal law enforcement walking around. Literally nobody cares. When I asked my buddy from Chicago, which would you prefer the crime, gang violence or a couple of National Guard walking down the street? They laugh because it's a retarded question. What? Literally nobody would even flinch if National Guard were walking down the street. If ICE shows up in where I grew up and they were doing an operation on a street corner, literally none of my they're gonna be walking back from the grocery store with their milk, bread and eggs and they're gonna be like, oh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't care.
Tate Brown
Yeah, well. And you saw the left. The left's perception of the National Guard is totally ridiculous. Like, it was. The Pisco was on the show Culture in the culture war show. And he was like, they're sending killing machines in New York City.
Tim Pool
Murder machines.
Wade Miller
Murder machines.
Tate Brown
I'm like, have you ever met a National Guardsman? Like, they're very normal, nice guys.
Phil Abonti
They're literally reservists, Right? Literally the same people that you run into, like, you know, working at.
Tim Pool
At a store or call them weekend warriors.
Phil Abonti
Yeah, well, I mean. Yeah, you know, usually it's. It's a little bit. It's one weekend a month and then two weeks a year. They're normal Americans that do normal American jobs. Maybe they work. Maybe they're a mechanic. Maybe they work at, you know, an H VAC repair guy. They're normal American. So to say that they're just killing machines is absolutely ridiculous.
Tim Pool
That is insane. He said they were murder machines. And then I'm like, okay, that very. I was like, very few. Like, what is the percentage of combat infantry? Do you know? The percentage of, like, all people? It's. It's small, right?
Wade Miller
In the Marine Corps, it's probably like 7 to 9%, roughly.
Tim Pool
They're all. I was like, the guy working on computers and doing IT stuff is not a murder machine that they're trained. They're physically fit. They know how to handle weapons. But Phil is. Is. Is physically fit, outside handle weapons. I wouldn't call him a murder machine.
Phil Abonti
Never murdered anybody in my life.
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah, I think I know. The murder machines are. It's the people we just saw in that video. Like, there's a lot of murder machines just on the streets running around. It's like, hello, there are probably more.
Phil Abonti
Murder machines in Chicago than there are in the National Guard.
Wade Miller
Tying two of these stories that we've already talked about into this one. So if one of our arguments on the. On the left is going to be, you know, with. In terms of, like, black crime is that it's. We have a lack of opportunity. Well, I can't really think of much that is better for opportunity for African Americans in Chicago than deporting a whole bunch of illegal aliens. A lot of jobs are going to open up. A lot of, you know, rent is going to become cheaper, housing is going to become cheaper. Yeah.
Tim Pool
Like, these. These young. These young liberals don't get it. When you remove the illegal immigrants who are entering Chicago, they're putting Up. So this is really, really funny. I was talking to my friend about Leclair Courts 2009. They. They bulldozed the black neighborhood because of the gangs. When you go there now, it looks like, and I could be wrong about this, but it looks like an illegal immigrant camp. I think that's what they set up is big white tents. When we drove past over the fourth, and I'm like, I think this end up in illegal immigrant camp. You get rid of those people. There's a guy, there's one guy and he go, he owns a three story building in Chicago and he rents out the. The bottom two floors and lives on the top floor. So he's charging $2,000 for the second, 2,000 for the first. You know why? Because when he posted on Craigslist, he got 500 emails saying, I want it. And so he goes 2250. Then he waits, he gets 20 emails, he's like, Wow, 25. He gets seven emails, he goes, 3000. He gets three emails and he's like, 3000, it's yours. You deport the people who are here illegally. And then all of a sudden people stop emailing. And he says, man, I can't rent out for 3,000 anymore. Nobody's emailing because now there is a large supply of available units to live in, releasing the tension and making it easier and cheaper to live in these apartments.
Tate Brown
Yeah, I literally spoke to a used car dealer in Virginia who was saying that he's finding it really, really difficult to move inventory now. He sells like very, very low end used cars. And it's because there's a huge supply now. It's like, if you're young and you're just trying to get to school or whatever, it's like, oh, you can actually buy. Because I don't know if any. I mean, people out there knows the used car market went crazy during COVID Totally out of reach for young people that are just trying to get to school. And now we're freeing up inventory. And it's the same thing with housing, it's the same thing with jobs. Like, everything in your life gets easier and better because of mass deportations.
Wade Miller
Yeah, we have true 55 million visa holders. And then, you know, anywhere between, my guess is 30 and 50 million illegal aliens in the United States all over the place. That's a lot of demand. A lot of demand.
Tim Pool
You.
Wade Miller
You erase a significant amount of that by moving those people out.
Tim Pool
The argument they're making is, yeah, but those people buy food and that sustains the economy. And I'm just sitting here being like, you know, Democrats, you advocated for abortion and so now the fertility rate's in the gutter. Told women to be girl bosses, not to have families, and then open the floodgates and let tons of illegal immigrants in the country who are low skilled labor and can't replace our managerial class or expert level class. That's just literally burning the country down. It's insane. And also as an aside, I don't know, we'll get to the story in a second. Gen Z doesn't want to have kids anymore. So we cooked.
Phil Abonti
Yeah, well, Gen Z, women, right?
Shane Cashman
Gen Z, I think it's, I think it's all, well, liberal, liberal men and women like cities. Cities are not child friendly anymore. Cities.
Tim Pool
That's because there's no kids, there's no families. But again, we'll get it in a couple minutes. For now, let's just wrap up the question for you guys is there, there are going to be businesses that shut down because of this. When we're talking about reducing demand, which will make cheap rent cheaper, houses cheaper, but it does also mean it's going to be harder for you to find certain goods, products. I don't care.
Shane Cashman
That's fine.
Tim Pool
Yeah, I literally don't care. I, we have chickens. I get my eggs from our own chickens. And we're looking at buying a mini cow because I think many cows do like what, one or two gallons of milk per day? Nice. But like a real cat, like a regular old cat is like 12 gallons. My girlfriend and drink that much milk.
Phil Abonti
My girlfriend's going to want to come over to meet your cow.
Tim Pool
Cows are great.
Phil Abonti
She's like, I want to get a cow. And I'm like, we're not getting a cow. We have a townhouse here.
Tim Pool
I saw this. There's a really great viral video where there's a cow bloated with methane and so it's just on the ground sideways and there's another cow just staring at it. And the farmer walks up and he jams the thing in it to release the gas and the couches watches and he's just like staring at the other cow. And I'm like, the cows are great. Have animals be a little bit more self sufficient. It would be good for everyone in this country if they were a little bit more reliant. I saw this viral post. I said Steve Jobs wrote himself an email and it was something like, he was like, I eat food that I don't grow. I live in buildings I did not build. And it was something like that. But I'm like, it's a really great point to make. 100 years ago, or maybe like 150, we mostly ate food that we grew like, to like there was a certain percentage of our diet that was our own diet. The average family owned one cow. They had animals, they had chickens, and you'd supplement some of the things you couldn't get. Now we literally produce nothing for ourselves. The average person in this country does nothing for themselves. It's crazy.
Tate Brown
Yeah, well, I mean, the illegal immigration thing is just another example of basically one generation getting the benefits, which was like the cheap labor, like, like a 20 year window where it made labor cheap, made it a little easier to run a business and that sort of thing. And in exchange, they just sold the country's future out. And it's like, it's a great example of Americans, we need to be weaned off of this hyper consumerism. Like you're saying with the food, it's like we've gotten fat and happy and we don't even realize how, like, where our food even comes from, these sorts of things.
Tim Pool
Oh, bro, I love, I love the story. When I was arguing with the socialist on X and he said, food comes from the grocery store. God. And I was like, well, when you buy it, it does, but how does the milk get there? Where does it come from? They're like, what do you mean it's at the grocery store? And I'm like, who brings it to the grocery store? And where did it come from before then? It was like, what are you talking about? It's at the grocery store. And I'm like, oh my God, dude, communists think money is food. They genuinely, they're like, I, I, I mentioned that PBD debate and the woman's like, how much money do you need to feed every person in the United States? It's like, what's the, what's the average calorie of a dollar bill yet no amount of money will feed anybody. You're talking about labor, labor from another human that you want for free. Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
Tate Brown
Yeah, well, they're just completely removed from the entire circle. It's the same thing when you're debating people on illegal immigration is like, yeah, but the GDP is going up. And you're like, yes, but you're like selling out a generation. You're inflating rent prices, food prices, vehicle prices, these sorts of things. But I'm saying, yeah, I know, but the GDP is going up. I'm like, yes, because you're pumping more people and so they're spending more money and the GDP will go up, but they're just totally removed from how things actually work, how these mechanisms actually function.
Tim Pool
Well, let's jump to this next story I call the Apocalypse. From NBC News decision desk, Paul. Steve Kornacki says they asked Gen Z Adults 18 to 29 what they consider important to a successful life. The combination of gender and politics produced two very different set of priorities. Men who voted for Trump, their number one definition of success. Having children. That is correct. That's the correct answer. Women who voted for Harris, their number one. 51% is fulfilling job and career. The lowest having children. Women who voted for Harris do not believe having children makes you successful. And that is disgusting. Now, to be fair, women who voted for Trump, also a low priority for women who voted for Trump, number one was financial independence, then fulfilling job, then owning own home, then being grounded spiritually, then having money to do the things you want to do. And then having children.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Wild now liberal men. Men over for Harris having children. Not the bottom, but only 9% considered to be. To be indicative of success. So Gen Z is cooked. Yep. Gen Alpha is already half of Gen Z and Gen Z doesn't want to have kids. And millennials didn't have kids. So gen Alpha at 40 million, I'm willing to bet. I think they're calling it Generation Bravo because nobody wants to be called Generation Beta. Bravo is going to be 13 million. Probably not. It probably should be like 27 million, but we're. We're over. Yeah, I watched this video where they said it was like a mini doc thing. No civilization has ever recovered in the history of humanity from 1.3% or less. Fertility.
Shane Cashman
Well, the good news is there will be artificial womb factories and they'll be filled with 30,000 artificial wombs that they're developing right now. So if you do want kids, you can put it in a robot.
Tim Pool
My bet is that the future is trending towards the people will say, we don't want to have kids, but we need to have kids. So they will vote for the government to create human growth facilities where humans will be cloned in artificial wombs.
Shane Cashman
Just like Bill Gates is making butter out of thin air. Now he's going to do it.
Tim Pool
Oh, man, I saw that.
Shane Cashman
Disgusting.
Tim Pool
They take. They take. They literally fuse hydrogen and carbons to make fake butter. Yeah. And then they put salt in it.
Shane Cashman
They make them eat it. The news reporters eat it on air and pretend like it tastes good.
Tate Brown
Swirl in the drain.
Tim Pool
Bill Gates fake Butter.
Wade Miller
I saw a study about a, a week or so ago, and it said the variable that actually correlates most to women being happy is being married. And so like, what we're seeing out of these, this is that women are being culturally taught to do the opposite and, and want the opposite of what is actually in their best interest. And I'm not going to tell any woman what, you know, she should or should not do or any other man that this for every person to make up. But culturally we have a big problem and the wrong signals are being sent to women. And, you know, I've got a daughter. I'm going to make sure that, you know, a big, her life is understanding that having children is the most fulfilling aspect of being an adult. And getting married is, is the, you know, the one, the, the most important thing of being an adult because you're hanging out with your best friend all the time. And, and women aren't taught that now.
Shane Cashman
I think we should be telling them that. I know, like, we should be instilling it in them all the time, like how important that is and having that anchor at home through the chaos of the world.
Tate Brown
Yeah, I tapped the circle. I t, I've tapped my schizophrenic historian friend when this, when the story broke, and I was like, has there ever been a moment in human history where men wanted kids more than women did? And he's like, no, this is unprecedented. This is the first time in human history where men want families and kids more than women.
Tim Pool
Well, you know, you know what's going to happen once we have designer babies? There will never be a woman again. I, I think women will fall to like 10% of the population. And the reason is there's, there's, there's, there's two narratives. The right's probably not going to do this. So if we actually go into artificial womb future, I actually think the future that's more likely to happen is liberals just end up eradicating themselves through not reproducing. Conservatives have lots of babies. In the event liberals worldview wins out, nobody has babies and they go to artificial wombs. Liberals are going to say this to each other. They're going to go, but because of the patriarchy, we don't want to have a baby who's going to have an unfair disadvantage. So we should just have a boy. They're better off if they're choosing traits. They're going to choose guys.
Shane Cashman
That's what Orchid's doing right now. You know, it's one of the bigger IVF eugenicist type companies.
Tim Pool
They're just picking boys. You can.
Shane Cashman
I don't know if they're picking boys, but they are.
Tim Pool
You can pick whatever.
Tate Brown
Yeah, look at China.
Tim Pool
Exactly when it came down to it. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.
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That's not the itinerary we're following.
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Tim Pool
You'd have one kid. They were like, abort the women.
Shane Cashman
The girls you can whittle down to.
Tate Brown
Whatever you want today. They're 55, male as a country, but.
Shane Cashman
Who needs women when Elon's making all that anime for true, you know, hey, hey.
Tim Pool
Nationally, strip clubs are going out of business around here. There are a bunch of places where it'll be like, I'm not gonna call any of them specifically, but it'll be like so and so's and. And it. And there's a big white bar and that says club. And you're like, I know what word was under that. That. That big ball, like that big white slab you put on the sign and you go in. And I already did mention one. Images. We used to drive. You drive past it on 340 when you're out in West Virginia. And we always drove past. That's a strip club. Like, none of us want to go there. Until Richie Jackson one day texted us saying, hey, I'm at Images. It's not a strip club. And we were all like, richie, were you looking for a strip club? No, it's the bar. And it's great. They got wings and food. It's really nice, actually. But the stage has mirrors. And so we went there and did karaoke and it was awesome. And the karaoke guys were up there, and everyone was singing. Everybody was in their late 40s and 50s. And the stage where we sang karaoke has mirrors on it. For obvious reasons, old people don't care as much about going to the strip club. I guess there's not enough young people. And the boobs are free online. Strip clubs are gone. Yeah.
Phil Abonti
And also, no one has cash anymore. No one has dollar bills to get.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah, they don't. Now, the strip club, the women are wearing square readers. You tap your card, and then. Then you got to tap the 5, and then ask you for a tip. And you're like, tip, I just gave you money.
Phil Abonti
That's what the tip is. Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yeah. What's. What's. What's it called? It's called end tipping. Is that what it's called? I don't know where, like, literally everything asks for a tip now. No matter where you go, everywhere. It's like, I'm at the grocery store, and they're like, we're gonna give me a tip.
Shane Cashman
Walgreens, Petco.
Tim Pool
Everyone wants my. The casino is my favorite because the cashiers have tip jars. I always tip the cashiers because, you know, I. I. You know, I try to be nice to everybody, and they know me there, but I do that. I do find it fascinating that you tip your dealer, you tip your server. When you win a slot machine, you tip the lady who comes to the slot machine to. To cash you out. And then when you go to the cashier to get your money back, you got to tip the cashier, too, and.
Shane Cashman
You can Venmo the treasury. Now you want to help take care of the debt.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah.
Shane Cashman
Or whoever. See, the IRS will take a Venmo as well.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Tate Brown
Trump should, like, if he, like, throws out a banger. Truth. Socially. Throw a little tip in there. Like, that was good.
Tim Pool
Yeah, dude, it is. It is. My theory on why women don't have kids is because they're. They're more social or socially oriented. And so society says, be a girl boss. So when they're asked, they don't want to. They don't want to be ostracized. They want to fit in. So when they're asked, what do you want? They go to be a girl boss. And they look around. I think they're lying in those surveys. I think they actually want kids. I think they're lying about not wanting kids.
Phil Abonti
Yes. I think that's.
Shane Cashman
They're denying nature as.
Tim Pool
As. As. You know, I'll defer to Shane. You have more kids than I. I do. And for longer. But when we go walk around, I've said it before, women act to my baby. Like people act to celebrities. Yeah. Like, we're walking down the street, Women are like, oh, my God, I want to see your baby. Can I see her? And I was in an elevator and some old day goes, let me see your baby. And she, like, leans over, and I'm like, women love baby just walking by.
Shane Cashman
Him on the street. But, yeah, you got the baby in the stroller.
Tate Brown
Well, it's like. But like, women, just by nature, like, they, they have to be led. So it's like, as a society, until you prioritize children and say, no, this is what we need to be doing, they're never gonna actually decide to have children, even if they desperately want them.
Tim Pool
And.
Tate Brown
Yep, they'll just keep lying to surveys. Like I said, men. I mean, everyone's really hammering on the women for their responses in the study. And it's like, yes, as you should. But even with the men, it's a. It's, it's not great that the number one thing they're prioritizing is getting married and having kids, because that, that is really great. But that should come naturally. That should be naturally happening to men. That shouldn't be a goal. That should be something that happens. So that just shows you how fundamentally broken society is that. That's, like, the man's most lofty goal is getting married.
Shane Cashman
It's a goal because it's, like, unattainable.
Tate Brown
Exactly. So it's like, that's also a really terrifying thing. And I think, to a degree, men are just looking for stability. They're like, okay, well, I know a family is going to provide stability because they can't find stability anywhere else in society because everything. They're getting the rug pulled out all the time.
Tim Pool
Liberals are going to binaural link Alpha Elon's gonna come out, he's gonna be like, I have the neuralink chip. And it doesn't really work that well, and it could melt your brain. And then all Gen Z is gonna be like, I'll take 10.
Tate Brown
Oh, yeah.
Tim Pool
And he's gonna be like, well, it's got a 93% chance of killing. Don't care. Just plug it in. And if it works, let's go.
Tate Brown
Yeah, everyone's gonna take the buyout.
Tim Pool
The buyout?
Tate Brown
Oh, yeah. Like, look at what we're facing. And then it's like the opposite. There's, like, the goon machine. Yeah, people. They're gonna take the buyout. There's no question about Goon machine.
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, that's what, yeah. But you, what I think is going to happen is I actually this is funny because there's the meme where women are like, men only want one thing and it's this. Guys. I'd be willing to bet large sums of money that if Elon Musk did come out with a neuralink device and said Haram Simulator or Noble Knight Dragon Warrior Quest, they'd choose Noble Knight Dragon Warrior Quest. And I mean that somewhat facetiously. If he said, in this version you will be a leader, respected by your peers, accomplishing great things and you will go on great missions and great quests and seek adventure and you will eventually find love. This one, you'll be in a room with dozens of naked women who will do whatever you say. Most guys are going to choose the adventure quest, success and goal stuff.
Tate Brown
It's already, that's already present at a micro level because men know like the data is out, the cat's out of the bag, that pornography does destroy your willpower and that sort of thing. So men are making that decision every day already. But choosing to watch pornography, I, I.
Tim Pool
I, I agree with those stats, but I don't think that's why men would ultimately choose the ultimate quest. I think this is why while porn is a massive industry, AAA games tend to be straightforward adventure mission oriented and we don't see the, the three billion dollar release being Harem Quest. Those games exist, guys do buy them, but I think like your average guy probably looks at porn or something, but the games they play are not solely focused on those things. Guys get dopamine releases when they feel like they've reached level two. It's the, it's, it's the origin of video games, it's the origin of sports. When they feel like they've upped their stats, when they've broken a new record, they get a massive dopamine release. So I, I think that's where they'd actually go and, and like young women will be like, but guys only want sex. I actually think women care more about sex than guys do. But it's, it's, it. I'll put it this way. If you were to zoom out to outer space like an alien, you'd probably find out that men and women care about sex basically the same. However, when you zoom in, women think guys who are always like looking at naughty magazines or whatever, obsessed with sex. But there's an inversion of this in a guy's day to day life. They care about finding the end of that tunnel, solving the maze, defeating the dragon. And women gossip with each other about men. So it's, it's, it's, it's pretty equal. Men and women were human, so they're all basically the same. But it's macro versus micro. Guys passively will be like, yeah, sometimes I'll do this. Whereas women are. Look at ear muffs for your kids. Do you guys know about this new best selling novel? The, the, the Minotaurs thing? You've seen it. You've seen it?
Tate Brown
Pop culture.
Wade Miller
I'm in the, I'm in.
Tim Pool
What is it called? Milking Farm, Minotaur something?
Tate Brown
Yeah, something like that.
Tim Pool
One of the best.
Phil Abonti
Degeneracy, Tim, it's called Degeneracy.
Tim Pool
One of the. So you remember 50 Shades of Gray? And this is my point. The best selling novel for women was bdsm erotica porn for women. And like what's like the best selling media for guys? GTA or like some video game or Fortnite? Yeah, I guess for, you know, buy it. But you're buying into it. There's a new book going viral. Not super new, it's a couple of years old that's got like 60,000 reviews. Five stars. All women buy it. It is about a millennial woman with college debt who is desperate and about to lose and get evicted. So she goes to work on a glory hole farm for minotaurs where she's a hooker for gigantic bulls. Human anthropomorphized bulls. And there was this one excerpt that I, I hope is not real, but it was a pair. I saw this go viral. Next, one of the. One of the scenes in the book is the woman is on. On a dinner date with one of the bulls who she milks in milking sessions. And they order dinner and when the bill comes, the minotaur grabs the check from her and then looks at her and says, listen, I know you're a strong woman and you have the money to pay your own half of this bill, but we are at different points in our careers and I can easily afford to spoil you, and if I can, I will. To which he says at that moment, if he wanted me to I would have on the spot. That's what they're reading.
Phil Abonti
My God, I'm looking at the COVID.
Shane Cashman
Right now, looking at it. Cover is crazy.
Tate Brown
Dude reading this kind of stuff. And they're unwinding to like Murder Me documentaries. It's like women, is everything okay?
Phil Abonti
No, no, nothing is okay going on. Nothing is okay.
Tim Pool
Meanwhile. Meanwhile Gen Z guys are like, I want to have a family.
Tate Brown
Yeah. We're like, we want a family. We're hopping on Fortnite with the squad. Meanwhile, the ladies are up to what's going on over there.
Tim Pool
Can we just do an honorable mention and play this video real quick?
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Will Kane
Smells and tastes like the butter we're all familiar with, but without the farmland, fertilizers, or emissions tied to that. Typical.
Phil Abonti
Well, that's terrible. To following butter story.
Will Kane
It's happening right here in Batavia in the middle of an industrial park in a suburb west of Chicago. Something unprecedented is happening. So you're using this gas right now to like, cook your food. And we're proposing that we would like to first make your food with that guy. They're demons, the company, and you better believe it. Their pioneering tech uses carbon and hydrogen to make the stick of butter you see on this plate.
Tate Brown
Oh, my goodness.
Will Kane
This is pretty novel to be able to make food that looks and tastes.
Tim Pool
And feels exactly like dairy butter, but.
Will Kane
With no agriculture whatsoever.
Shane Cashman
That lady was also made in the.
Will Kane
Last one ingredient list the average person can't pronounce. It's really just our fat. Some water, a little bit of lecithin as an emulsifier, and some natural flavor and color. How fats are made up of carbon and hydrogen. The gold here replicate those chains without animals or plants. And they did it. They tell me to simplify. They take carbon dioxide from the air and hydrogen from water, heat them up and oxidize them. The final result. It looks like a wax, like a candle wax at first, but they're fat molecules like the ones in beef, cheese, or vegetable oils. Sustainability is why we are here. It's all done.
Tim Pool
I feel like the people who eat this, their kids are going to come out like sloths from Goonies.
Will Kane
We're like, not at full capacity in this facility yet. And even though we're seeing slob water, in addition to the carbon footprint being much Right. The land is like a thousand times lower than what you need in agriculture. I know what you're thinking. I think we need to taste this. I would love for you to taste this.
Tim Pool
It's all women too.
Tate Brown
Where's your slop stick and your slop water?
Tim Pool
So I'm going to take eat it.
Tate Brown
Shut up.
Will Kane
I would admittedly, surprisingly like butter. Cheers.
Tate Brown
Oh, no.
Tim Pool
I just. I'm sorry. But it would have been funny if she goes like.
Tate Brown
We'Re dress like bar.
Phil Abonti
Like the next show.
Tim Pool
She looks like.
Will Kane
No palm oil.
Phil Abonti
A trauma movie.
Will Kane
Straight to deforestation devastation and climate change. That's not all of the 51 billion tons of greenhouse gases emitted every year.
Phil Abonti
Look at the bright side, no seed.
Will Kane
Oil, fats and oils from animals and plants. So when could you get a taste yourself?
Tate Brown
Oh boy.
Will Kane
Right now they're working directly with restaurants, bakeries and food suppliers, releasing these chocolates made with their butter in time for the holidays. Savor butter in either its current manifestation or with our partners.
Tim Pool
We expect that to be on the.
Will Kane
Shelves kind of more like around 2027. Their teams here in Batavia, Illinois and their home lab base in San Jose, California, backed by Bill Gates, who wrote in his blog quote, the idea of switching to lab made fats and oils may seem strange at first, but their potential to significantly reduce our carbon footprint is immense. Believing Leanne was right can make a.
Tim Pool
Difference, Ian was saying. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.
Will Kane
Honestly Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new Family Freedom offer.
Tim Pool
That's not the itinerary we're following.
Will Kane
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Tim Pool
Bon voyage.
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Tim Pool
Going to happen in the future is now. He was wrong about the why. He said that we're going to be pulling carbon out of the atmosphere to make graphene. Because he's obsessed with graphene and he's wrong. That being said, they're pulling carbon dioxide out of the air, fusing it with hydrogen from water to make fake fat, I guess to make actual lipids. If this scales to mass production, they will be pulling carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere to mass produce butter.
Shane Cashman
And you won't know if you're eating this. At some point, you're gonna have to be on top of this. This is the same guy, Bill Gates, who's got the appeal thing going on with all the fruits, where you don't know. You might not know if it's wrapped in this clear coating. It's weird.
Tim Pool
You know what a cheddar is?
Shane Cashman
No.
Tim Pool
You ever have a cheddar?
Phil Abonti
Cockroaches.
Tim Pool
Isn't it cricket?
Phil Abonti
Cricket.
Tim Pool
So my assumption is they realized if they put cricket on the back of a ingredients label, you'd be like, I ain't eating that. That's gross. So they call it a cheddar protein.
Wade Miller
Well, here's my question. So we've got sustainable butter and we've got minotaur glory holes. To liberal women. Which one is more pornographic?
Shane Cashman
I think they're taking both.
Tate Brown
That's just the future.
Shane Cashman
One helps the other.
Tate Brown
You get your glass of slop water, you got your cheddar. This doesn't sound too bad, guys. Come on.
Shane Cashman
You know, digital children.
Tate Brown
And then, like, her explaining the ingredients list, like, she rattled. She rattled it a little too quick. She was like, yeah, it's just like water and gas and like the blood of a virgin and some salt. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Tim Pool
Next to the slop water is a woman held up on chains, screaming, literally.
Tate Brown
Yeah. So, yeah, I will not be drinking the slop water. Will not have the slop stick.
Wade Miller
I'm not doing it.
Tate Brown
Bill Gates.
Wade Miller
RFK needs to ban this immediately.
Tim Pool
What is.
Shane Cashman
Can we raid him?
Tate Brown
Bill Gates?
Tim Pool
What? What is? I don't know what slop water is. When I. When I. When I. Hold on, hold on.
Tate Brown
Flint water.
Tim Pool
Hold on. I'm not. I'm not kidding. When I Google searched slop water wiki, what do you think? The. The. What do you think? Him up.
Tate Brown
Minotaur.
Tim Pool
Okay, okay, hold on. First water slope, a type of canal. Inclined plane is the first one. Well, that's not what I meant. The second one is oil discharge monitoring equipment. It's. It says ODME is based on a measurement of oil content in the ballast and slop water. Okay, well, what is slop water? The Third search term, Fallout Wiki. Then it's slop definition followed by the vault Fallout Wiki. So for some reason when you search for slop water, the first search is Fallout the video game about a post apocalyptic dystopia where the country and planet was wiped out. Nuclear war. Yeah, I don't know what slop water is. I'm sure someone's like, oh yeah, slop water refers to contaminated water mixed with oil drilling fluids and other waste primarily generated during offshore oil and gas drilling.
Tate Brown
At least they're making use of it.
Tim Pool
Yeah, make it butter.
Phil Abonti
I mean look, if, if this were, if this were like a healthier version of butter, I felt, I feel like there might be some like, validity to its existence. But if it's just, you know, so that way you're not using milk to make butter. I don't really.
Shane Cashman
This is all. See the purpose to help Bill Gates do the cow genocide. He wants to do clearly and, and block the sun Clearly.
Tim Pool
Yo, check this out. Check this out. They said. This is very interesting. One thing I will say that probably means something entirely different, but watch the video and pause at 138 and tell me what you read. In the tank in the upper left it says T905 slop water. Yes, it says slop water. I don't know what slop means, but it's definitely an editing oversight. Slop water is contaminated water byproduct generated during oil and gas drilling operations, particularly with oil or synthetic based muds. It contains hydrocarbons, chemicals and solids which prevent its overboard. I'm, I'm going to be honest, I think they're recycling petroleum byproduct waste.
Shane Cashman
Oh, very possible.
Tim Pool
And they're not saying it because nobody would want it. So they're like, hey, you know from this drilling and this fracking, you have this sludge. What do we do with it? And they're like, what if we extracted the carbon and made fat with it and then people ate it? Someone in the suburb, they called it Soylent butter.
Phil Abonti
Like in. So as far as I'm concerned, like in principle, if they, if you can have a company that can actually manufacture things that are, are chemically the exact same as things that occur in nature. I don't have a principle. I don't have a principled problem.
Shane Cashman
You'll never replicate.
Phil Abonti
You don't believe the moon is real?
Tim Pool
It's not.
Phil Abonti
Okay, it's not. So but let me finish my sentence then. I don't have a problem with that in principle, but I don't as Far as this goes, I don't see the point of being like, oh, we have this manufactured. We managed to create it out of, you know what. However the means they do, I don't see the point because generally, like, unless. Unless it's trying to limit the amount of. Of, you know, factory farming there is. Maybe that might be legitimate, but I.
Shane Cashman
Don'T even think it's for people butter. I think it's to get people prepared to eat other things that are fake.
Tim Pool
I. I just think it's time I become king because I would just go in and arrest these people. I just don't. I'm sorry. I'd be like, ma', am. I don't. You're under arrest. And she'd be like, But I just. Quiet. Jail. Please get in the vehicle. There's no. There's no trial. You are making. You are making slop butter. Soylent butter. All of you, news reporter, you go to jail too. Just because all of you not right to jail.
Tate Brown
Believe it or not, I think it's an inside joke with Bill Gates where he's like, what can I put on these tanks and people. These idiots will still eat it.
Shane Cashman
You're right.
Tate Brown
Put slop on. They fell for it. They're still eating it.
Shane Cashman
This.
Tim Pool
Right there. Look at this. It's right there.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Oh, my.
Tate Brown
And they put T905. Just make it extra ominous. That's a technical term for slop water.
Tim Pool
The future is disgusting. Bill Gates is an evil man.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yeah. He's like, what's wrong with eating the slop butter. I like cows. They taste good. But you're carbon. Mm.
Phil Abonti
Yeah. As a means to limit carbon. I'm not so down with that. I don't. I'm. I'm not buying that there's a massive problem with global warming. I know that there is a slight increase, but it's something like. It's been projected to be like 2 or 3 degrees over the next hundred years or something. My entire life, I've been listening to people doom cast about how by the year 2000, the seas are gonna rise. By the year 2010, the seas are gonna rise by 2020. I mean, it was Al Gore that was saying in 2006 in the movie An Inconvenient Truth, he was saying that all of these catastrophic things were gon by 2020. It was five years ago. Nothing has happened. Not one. In fact, there was an increase in ice in. On the globe last year. So I don't buy any of the global warming BS at all.
Wade Miller
I'm not a scientist, so I can't definitively say one way or the other, other than I agree with you. But I can say this definitively, that fake butter is not going to solve the problem.
Phil Abonti
No, it's not.
Wade Miller
If there is one, it will not be part of the solution.
Tim Pool
I'm not a scientist, but what I can say is offering mortgages on Miami beachfront property should be fraud based on the narrative from the government. If Miami is going to flood and sink or whatever, then it's fraud. When these banks offer loans on properties and insurance as well, they're all criminals.
Phil Abonti
So, you know, why did Barack Obama buy beachfront property on. Was it Martha's Vineyard or was it Nantucket?
Tim Pool
It's ocean. Oceanfront property in Martha's Vineyard.
Phil Abonti
Martha's Vineyard. Like it'll be largely underwater decade or 15 years ago. I don't buy it at all. I'm not buying it.
Tim Pool
Well, what you don't understand, Phil, is that Barack Obama is such a great leader. He's so confident that we will overcome climate change that, that he, he knows it's worth it because we'll win.
Wade Miller
My favorite is the picture of the Statue of Liberty in, like, 1901 and a picture of it in 2025. And it shows the water line and it's exactly the same spot.
Tim Pool
Exactly.
Tate Brown
We're going to fix this. All one glass of slop water at a time.
Tim Pool
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Phil Abonti
Yep.
Tim Pool
Agreed. Quani says, how do you respond to pushback? That Republican states have higher violent crimes with this. And, and I don't. If I say, like, hey, National Guard should stop all the murders in Chicago because it has a high, high density of murders and they go, yeah, well, red states have more crime, I go, okay, your point?
Wade Miller
There's also higher. A higher rate of red states complying with and submitting their crime data. And we're not seeing this in California and other states, they're intentionally not submitting it.
Tim Pool
It's just. I'll tell you this, here's the pushback. Chicago is a hyper concentration, urban, urban region where a lot of the crime happens in a very tight space where a small amount of federal law enforcement and National Guard can put a stop to it. Red states with high crime, it's largely spread out over hundreds of square miles, which would be extremely difficult to police. It is a challenge with rural areas. So by all means, be upset there's more crime in there. Sure. But why should we? Why? Hey, you. You can't come in here and stop crime because there's more crime in that state. O. Okay, we'll stop the crime there. We'll figure it out. We'll stop the crime there too. What's the argument? There's no argument. Amtru says the left profit off the crime, gaining money, power and control. They don't care about crime. They use it for their benefit. Agreed. That's why I love this. The irs, it says they don't care how you get the money. You owe your taxes on it. You are, you are legally required to report income from ill gotten gains. Did you commit a crime to get the money? Just report it. Because we want our cut. That's what they went after Al Capone with taxes. All right. McBee Fraud says thank you for fixing the YouTube playlist issue of clips being in the podcast. You are all very handsome. Oh, well, thank you. Wow. Just. What does it say? Just as just a stupid Glazer. Okay. The people that say that justice and mental health system failed him will also say that he must be released back into the public so as not continue to victimize him. Yeah, everybody's saying death penalty and the argument is like, he's on video doing it. You can see it. There's no question here. And functionally, emotionally, individually, I understand you can't release this Guy, we know he did it. He's even a danger to other people in prison. So why are we going to spend money to keep someone who has done such evil things? The challenge is not the individual level, which I understand. The challenge is the machine is saying, we justify. We grant the state the right to execute. And the problem there is Kamala Harris will kill you.
Shane Cashman
When I did that story about catching pedophiles, I, in the story imagined a lot of things happening to them that would take their lives. And I. I can't let the state have that ability. I think they. We can't trust him to do it. I want this guy. He can't be in polite society. He can't be. He needs to be removed from society forever. You know, the island. The island.
Tim Pool
Put him on Salvador.
Shane Cashman
Put him on the island. Yeah, there you go.
Tim Pool
I mean, I mean, this is what's crazy. What's preferable if you came to me and said, tim, we are not going to pay the bills for this criminal. He's a threat to even other prisoners. So death penalty. And you say, tim, no death penalty. Then I say El Salvador. And the Democrats are like, no. And I'm like, if, if. If the option is death penalty or El Salvador supermax, I say El Salvador. Let them deal with it. Exile. Exile them.
Shane Cashman
Put him on one of Elon space rockets.
Tim Pool
I mean, there's no easy answer, to be honest. Like, in this capacity, it's one of the greatest examples of the challenge in this question. Again, he's a repeat offender, career criminal, violent, attacked others before, will attack again, attacks for no reason. You put him in general population, in a prison, he will attack them. So he's going to go in solitary and then we got to pay the bills. To lock a guy up forever in a box where he can't do anything, even though we know he's evil and we can't. Like, that's a difficult question.
Phil Abonti
North Carolina does have the death penalty.
Shane Cashman
Oh, yeah, there are. There are plenty. Yeah. Of states, I think 25 Democrats are.
Tim Pool
Going to argue that this poor man is a victim of the system or something stupid.
Phil Abonti
Michael Malice made a great point one time. He said, look, I never understood. Well, one of the many that Michael Malice has made. But he was talking about the death penalty and he was saying, you know, I never understood how in the U.S. people say, you can't give him the death penalty because he's mentally ill. And he's like, I always thought that that was the best reason.
Tate Brown
Yeah, right.
Phil Abonti
Which sounds. Sounds horrible in the, like, on the face of it. But, like, if someone is not going to get better and they don't understand that what they did was wrong, it's actually better for society if they're not allowed to be in society. And you can make the argument that the death penalty is more humane than putting someone that doesn't understand why they're in a cage in a cage for the rest of their life.
Tate Brown
Let's always say, like, with, like, the court system. And they're like, he pleads insanity, he's too insane to stand. True. I'm like, isn't that the best reason to, like, put someone in jail?
Tim Pool
No, but. But the, the insanity plea, this is what I love about you go to prison forever, right. When, when you, when you plead insanity, it's like you get a lot. You get life. And the trope in movies is that you get away with it. Like, you murder someone and say, well, by reason of insanity, we're going to release them to medical care for a year. No, you murder someone and you don't know right from wrong, they say you're going to a medical facility forever. So 20 years becomes a life sentence.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Tate Brown
The British had the right idea with Australia.
Shane Cashman
We need to say we need asylums. But I'm going to run, Tim. Thanks for having me. I'll see you guys later. Head on over to Inverter world live on YouTube. And rumble will be live at 10 o'.
Tate Brown
Clock.
Shane Cashman
Phone lines will be open. We'll see all there.
Tim Pool
Anyone can call.
Shane Cashman
Anyone can call in, tell us a crazy story. It'll be fun. Yeah. When we've got Y2K 2.0 coming up tonight. That we're gonna talk about. 2038.
Phil Abonti
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And Sasquatch did it.
Shane Cashman
Sasquatch was through a portal doing it. And we'll talk about all that later. You guys.
Phil Abonti
Moon's real chain.
Tim Pool
All right, what do we got here? Amateur says 1989 Crips versus 15 Ranges Rangers. I know. He's a typo in LA. The Crips lost. Yep. Yep.
Phil Abonti
That's not a surprise.
Tim Pool
Yeah. D4292 says I vote for Phil as governor of Mississippi.
Phil Abonti
No, I'm never going to be a public servant.
Tim Pool
David Flores says Chi Town gangs will follow D.C. and move their activities into the suburban area. More than they are. Ask PG and Moco in MD right now. Mark my words, gangs are fluid. And they're not. They're not stupid. I mean, they may not be like rocket scientists, but they run businesses, man. They have. They sell drugs, they have distribution. They are people who are management. There are people who are lower level. And if the National Guard comes in, the bosses are going to be like, hey, now, we don't sell in that area because we're going to get too much heat from National Guard. Just move over here. That's what's gonna happen. And it's gonna be a game of whack a mole. But I think, I think the National Guard can do some. Do some good. KMX says my farmer husband was 30 years National Guard. Retired now in Illinois. Regular central Illinois dude in a Chicago unit. Most National Guard are pretty chill. Yep. Indeed.
Tate Brown
Yeah, they're the bros. They're good guys.
Tim Pool
Hey, bros for sure. T bomb 85 says, gotta love it. Tim comes back, tells everyone he worked so much he almost died, then proceeds to tell everyone he has a new channel. And I'm recording an additional half an hour every day. Something's wrong with me, I guess. Subscribe to YouTube.com impool the goal for this channel is going to be more random cultural commentary and maybe even some vlog stuff. Just kind of random. Today I commented on this viral video of a cop who was accused of being high. So whereas like Tim cast News, my morning show, and it's like the news articles and cultural issues that are relevant at the time, the Tim Pool channel is just whatever I feel like. And so there's a viral video of a cop who was accused of being high. And I don't think he was. And I talked about it. I think he was dehydrated and probably sick and the guy's screaming in his face, you can get fired. You're high on the job. And like, I don't think he's high. I don't think he's high. One evil chef says crazy. No one has mentioned this. Did you know the Marines, since they began by law, are directly controlled by the president in the original bill? That's why it takes an act of Congress to go to war. But Trump is able to send Marines. Interesting.
Phil Abonti
They're the President's 911 4.
Tate Brown
Do they communicate that to you guys?
Tim Pool
No.
Wade Miller
Well, I was an enlisted infantry guy. So they basically just say, go shoot that stuff over there. And we follow those orders. But presidential authority is interesting. That's why I think the president often relies on National Guard and then Marines for various reasons.
Tim Pool
Seasons, the missions you went on were they almost always you were going to shoot or were like, what was the balance of? You're securing an area, you're not in active combat most.
Wade Miller
So I was in Iraq three times. And most of that was just us walking around waiting to be shot at or blown up. Just a total waste of time. You know, I'm fairly anti Iraq war, pro killing Islamic radicals, but anti Afghanistan war, anti Iraq war. For that reason. We were just walking around and being very reactionary to. And targets, you know, so that's kind.
Tim Pool
Of why I asked, because I figured even. Even if you're infantry, it's not like every day they're saying, okay, here's the. Here's your list of people you're gonna go kill. Go kill them now. It's no.
Wade Miller
And you'll walk around for two weeks and not see a thing, and then all of a sudden, you'll have an IED go off. And that's why they always say complacency kills. Because you go out on these patrols, and after two weeks of nothing, you start not paying attention, you start not seeing things, you start not, you know, looking around corners as much as you should be, and then, boom, they get you.
Tim Pool
I heard stories where, like, there'll be, like, a convoy, and then a little kid will walk in front of the convoy with a bomb on them. Things like that.
Wade Miller
Yeah, that happens a lot. And.
Tim Pool
And.
Wade Miller
And for whatever reason, the Muslims over there love to hit vehicles and less so people. So our solution to that was just stay out of vehicles. I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but we just would walk everywhere. All over Iraq, we were walking because it was. It was safer to walk somewhere, to walk 5, 10 miles somewhere, than to get into a Humvee because they wanted to blow up the Humvee. They like doing monetary damage, at least in that war.
Tim Pool
I.
Wade Miller
You know, maybe it was different in Afghanistan and elsewhere. So, yeah, just stay out of the vehicles.
Tim Pool
What do you do if, like, you're driving in a truck and some little kids, like, 50ft ahead of you just stands in the middle of the road is like, the convoy stop or like.
Wade Miller
Yeah, I mean, generally speaking, if it's a child, yes, they would stop. And if they saw something like a bomb was strapped to them, then they'd have to make a real moral choice at that point of, you know, protecting themselves or taking the kid out. I. I never saw a situation like that. But I do think that the RO rules of engagement would allow you to take out an enemy combatant, even if it was a child, if they were approaching you with a bomb. And that's just. As a dad, like, that tears me up. But you have. At the end of the day, you have to protect the man on your right and left.
Tim Pool
So I've heard these stories like they. They know that we have rules and they know that Americans don't want to kill kids.
Wade Miller
That's right.
Tim Pool
And so I've heard stories like this. I don't know. I. That's just insane, man. Brutal. All right, what do we got here? Oh, John, Ralph had a question for Shane, but Shane's gone. He says let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.
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That's not the itinerary we're following.
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Tim Pool
Why don't you trust the people with the death penalty but you do with 2A? Well, I can answer for that because Kamala Harris, you know, it's like, it's an easy. It's an easy answer. But she, like, the story is there are people who are supposed to be released from prison, but she kept them for slave labor. There was a guy was on death row and there was exculpatory evidence that she blocked from. You know, so certainly I think we can all agree there are dangerous people. And for the protection of society. I know there are people who make the moral argument that retribution matters. And someone who kills should be killed because it's retribution. That's all that matters. I don't think that way. My question is, are we safe? And with someone like this guy who killed this woman. No, not with him. Then there's a question of, we know he did it. He's on camera. He did it. He's gonna do it again. He did it before you put him in jail. He's a threat to the prisoners. They're like, what do you do? And then it comes down to this do you want to create a system by which, when you are complacent two weeks later, Kamala Harris now has a kill switch. That's the challenge I have where I'm like, dude, I get it. Evil people must be stopped, and they can't be rehabilitated with to protect the innocent. But what happens when Kamala Harris is handed that kill switch? We're all focused right now on this one guy, and there's evidence. We see the video and we're like, this is the time where we say death penalty. Two weeks from now, we're gonna be talking about taxes or tariffs or something. And whoever that person was who was handed that button in California, it was Kamala Harris. It literally was. She's going to be like, quick, no one's paying attention, and she's gonna just start killing people, man. That's what freaks me out. Not easy. Not an easy question. Not an easy answer. Let's see. We'll grab some more.
Phil Abonti
There we go.
Tim Pool
Mauricio91 says they left all the kids to single mothers. That's what's wrong. Do you guys see that viral video from Charlie Kirk? And there's a black man who said. Who's arguing with him and says, you claim that, you know, two thirds of black men abandoned their. Their kids, but 54% of black men don't even have kids. And Charlie's like, yes, and of the black men who do have kids, two thirds leave their wives. And the guy didn't understand that.
Tate Brown
Any such cases.
Tim Pool
Yeah, that's why these street, street debate things are funny. Joe Spinell says Congress can put a stop to these judges by removing their own self imposed judicial immunity. That originated from English common law. Oh, man. This is a big story that actually we pulled up, but we didn't get to Millennial Mama says. Is the story about Greta Thunberg's boat getting attacked by a drone real? Well, according to all the reports I've seen, yeah. Greta Thunberg's flotilla was struck by a drone. I don't know.
Tate Brown
That got sent to me. I thought it was a joke. Is that real?
Tim Pool
I found like seven or eight different sources all saying it happened. Oh, yeah, but what was it like a small drone?
Phil Abonti
Yeah, I mean, the boat was still floating and stuff.
Tim Pool
Yeah, it was a little fire. A drone. It was a. It was a small drone that came above it, released a bomb. That doesn't sound like Israel. Yeah. Did Greta Thunberg get bombed by Palestinians, they labeled it.
Wade Miller
The first time that the left did something to then capitalize off of, you know, and then if it was. Play the victim card.
Phil Abonti
If it was the Jews, they would have sent a page.
Tim Pool
She said they were bombed in Tunisian territory. So why. Why are they blaming the Israelis? I can't stand these psychotic retards. They're in Tunisia and they got bombed by a small commercial drone. And they're like, israel did it. It was the Jews. I mean, maybe, maybe, but it's just like, yo, what, you don't know who bombed you. You're in Tunisia.
Phil Abonti
And also the.
Tim Pool
Can we.
Phil Abonti
If it was Israel, they probably would have sunk the boat. Like, Israel's good at.
Tim Pool
Why would Israel. They're stupid.
Phil Abonti
And, you know, it just doesn't seem.
Wade Miller
Like they're operating, you know, reality.
Tim Pool
I just want to point this out. I just want to point this out for you guys. Okay? Here's a map. Here's Israel. You see Israel over here, I move the mouse. Here's Tunisia. Tunisia is where they are. So Israel traveled 2,000 miles to drop a commercial drone firebomb on their boat?
Phil Abonti
Yes.
Tim Pool
And Ms. Okay, maybe. Maybe Netanyahu is sitting back there, he's like, I think what we got to do is use a commercial drone from Best Buy and drop a firebomb on her flotilla in Tunisia so we can claim it wasn't us, but get her all angry so she blames us, and then we can say she's crazy.
Tate Brown
Like, sir, wasn't she just in Israeli waters? No, but it'd be funnier in Tunisia.
Wade Miller
What is even the max distance on these, like, low end commercial drones? Like 50 miles or. Yeah, half mile.
Tim Pool
Yeah, half a mile. Half a mile of clear skies if you're lucky.
Wade Miller
Okay, yeah, that's about a half mile.
Tim Pool
To be fair, they can be GPS programmed and launched, but I really don't think a small commercial drone is going to fly that far. Sounds like it was launched from Tunisia.
Tate Brown
Yeah, if I had to take a stab.
Tim Pool
Yeah. This is crazy. The quote is, the Israelis have attacked the flotilla main boat in Tunisian territory. Game of Thrones star Liam Cunningham said that. What. What proof do they have that Israel used a small commercial grade drone start a fire on their boat?
Phil Abonti
You just need to feel it. It's vibes. It's all vibes.
Tate Brown
Vibes based.
Tim Pool
It is. This is crazy. An investigation.
Tate Brown
They don't even know the Tunisians. They're just pranking. That's all it was. Prank.
Phil Abonti
Psych.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Then you. Then we also didn't get into the. The stupid Trump letter they published. I don't believe it. By the way the. Do we have them pulled up. Actually, I thought I did. I guess not. Wait, here we go. Here it is. This is the. The image, allegedly, that Trump's poem to Epstein, which is signed Donald, and it says Donald J. Trump. And it signed Donald. Yeah, he has signed things in the past. Just Donald. But I don't. I don't believe whatever this weird thing is. I'm sorry. It's just too weird. It's just too weird. And it's not evidence of anything.
Phil Abonti
Yeah, that's why I don't care, because it's not evidence of anything. They were friends at that time. Maybe he did send it. It doesn't matter because, like, this is the. The opposite of news.
Tim Pool
It's not evidence of anything. No. Hey, if Trump's on the Epstein list, I want the Epstein files released. But liberals, you're not going to play stupid games. I don't even know what this is.
Phil Abonti
Oh, they're gonna try.
Tim Pool
I'm just not saying. They're not gonna play with me. I don't care. They can come be like, two pull these jobs. I don't care if Trump's on the list, replace it. I've said it over and over again, you know.
Phil Abonti
Yeah. In the women that were at the press conference or whatever last week, threatening to compile a list of their. Their own. Where's the list? Please release it. Like, put it out. Everybody was like, oh, they're gonna do this. Blah, blah. Like, no, they're not. They're not gonna do anything like that.
Wade Miller
And at this point, I don't even know what the list is. Is the list just people who have known Epstein? And if so that's not actually also evidence of anything?
Phil Abonti
I don't know.
Wade Miller
I'm with the clients.
Tim Pool
Like, there's a picture of Prince Andrew with Virginia Giuffre. So right now, the Epstein client list is Jeffrey Epstein. Prince Andrew. Then they said the DOJ is like, no, no, he was just trafficking to Epstein. Okay, what about Prince Andrew?
Wade Miller
Yeah, that's what I want. The people that we know interacted with these young girls. I want that list. I don't want a list of people who have known Epstein at some point in their lives. I want that list.
Tim Pool
Right. Like, even as far as it pertains to Bill Gates, if all Bill Gates did was fly with Epstein and that was it. Whatever. Bill Gates is not a guy I like. Was Bill Gates. Is he implicated in the underage girls? Oh, then release all of that. So I think. I think Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna's bill is good. Yeah, I'm like 60% on it. I think they are working on releasing the documents. I don't trust them to do it. That's why I'm kind of like, yeah, well, you know, let me let Massey cook on this one, but release it however it is. Weird. Now they're saying that Trump wasn't. Was an FBI informant. That's interesting. Whatever that means. We'll see. All right, what do we got here? Jump data says the left will somehow simultaneously justify using IEDs on Tesla dealerships and ambush federal officers and then become surprise Pikachu face when the salty sergeant first class gets deployed to deal with their insurgency. That's a good point.
Tate Brown
Real.
Tim Pool
All right, my friends, we're gonna go to that uncensored portion of the show over@rumble.com Timcast IRL. If you want to call in, you got to join the Tim cast discord@timcast.com Sign up and you can actually call in and talk to us and our guest. And we're going to be putting the Discord chat on the front page of the site, so it'll be simultaneously running with that show. Very, very cool stuff. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Wade, do you want to shout anything out?
Wade Miller
Yeah. My name's Wade Miller. Of course, Wade Miller. Underscore USMC on X and you can find our organization's website at. @America renewing.com that's America renewing.com Cool.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Tate Brown
Come find me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown. Come watch Pop Culture Crisis. This week I'm co hosting with Mary. She's allowing me to talk, which is, you know, maybe a terrible judgment. I don't know. But, yeah, come hang out. It's gonna be a good time.
Phil Abonti
I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can check out the band on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
Tim Pool
We will see you all@rumble.com Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out, Sam.
Episode Title: Trump SLAMS Democrats Over Irina Zarutska Killing, Says WAR Over Chicago Crime w/ Wade Miller
Host: Tim Pool
Guest: Wade Miller (Center for Renewing America)
Panelists: Tate Brown, Shane Cashman, Phil Labonte
Main Themes: Urban crime, media bias, race and crime statistics, Chicago violence, calls for federal intervention, illegal immigration, media censorship, generational malaise
This hard-hitting episode centers on the brutal murder of Irina Zarutska, a Ukrainian refugee killed on a Charlotte metro, sparking a national debate about crime, racial violence, and the failures of Democrat-led cities. Donald Trump’s aggressive response—calling out Democrat officials and threatening federal intervention—frames a wider conversation on media bias, urban safety, and the cultural and policy roots of persistent violence. With Wade Miller’s policy expertise and the panel’s direct, sometimes provocative banter, the group scrutinizes crime stats, media silencing, cultural decay, and even societal collapse anxiety among Gen Z.
"Criminals like this need to be locked up. The blood of this innocent woman can literally be seen dripping from the killer's knife. And now her blood is in the hands of Democrats who refuse to put bad people in jail..."
— Tim Pool reading Trump’s statement (12:00)
"They're basically saying you the people don’t have a right to decide what matters to you and what is worthy of entrance into the archives." — Tim Pool (33:34)
"The open racism on sites like X today is eye popping." — Brian Stelter quoted by Pool (19:49)
"I say, Trump, send in the troops." — Tim Pool (47:20)
"A Black individual was about 26 times more likely to attack a white individual than the reverse..." — Tim Pool quoting DOJ stats (16:04)
"There's a big problem in the culture of African American communities, not everyone. It's not a genetic disorder... The left doesn't want to have that conversation." — Wade Miller (24:02)
“When everyone is racist, no one will be.” — Tim Pool (42:15)
“Women who voted for Harris, their number one [priority] is fulfilling job and career. The lowest: having children. Women who voted for Harris do not believe having children makes you successful. And that is disgusting.” — Tim Pool (81:10)
This episode is a sweeping, at times incendiary, indictment of American urban decay, legacy media failure, and a political system more interested in avoiding blame than enacting fixes. The panel isn’t shy about naming race, culture, or failed government policies as core drivers—and calls out attempts to silence uncomfortable truths. It blends on-the-ground working class skepticism with policy expertise and a wry, doomer Gen Z sensibility, making for an engaging and unfiltered discussion on one of America's most pressing debates.