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Today Donald Trump was hosting South Africa's President Ramamosa and he essentially was it Ramaphosa. My bad, Ramaphosa. And CNN is accusing Trump of spreading debunked conspiracy theories during his Oval Office office visit. So we'll talk about that. We have a bunch of people talking about that actually. There's all kinds of, there's all kinds of people that were all up in arms. A federal judge blocks the Trump administration from removing criminal illegal immigrants to third party nations in South Sudan. So we'll discuss that. We talked a little bit about, you know, people that don't have their countries of origin, don't want them back and what the administration is supposed to do with them. So we'll discuss that a little bit further. We have a Venezuela man that was arrested after posing as a teen to enroll in Ohio High School. He's an illegal immigrant and he was charged with forgery after enrolling in Perry High school as a 16 year old. The guy's like in his 20s or something like that. So we'll discuss that. More Democrat nonsense. As a Tennessee Democrat, state rep was bragging about interfering in ICE operations. She made a video of it. She put it on the Internet. Look, if you're going to break the law, don't make videos of it and put it on the Internet. But actually in this particular case, I personally don't mind that she did because it's hilarious. We have some information from Tim Butcher Booker at about the Kennedy assassination. Apparently he was in a hearing and he has some new information, some that some people may or may not have heard it, it's alleged to confirm some theories that have, that have gone around for a long time about this but we'll get into that and then we'll also be talking about Gen Z and the millennial men in the US Are among the loneliest in the Western world and why. Course the, the, the specific article that we have brought up in the, the study that was done, they're blaming things that personally I don't think are actually the root cause of it. But you can guess what the, how the blame, you know, lands. But before we get into any of that, why don't you head on over to cast brew.com and buy some coffee. You know, we here at Tim Casta we have the casp.com recently we've come up with the, we've got the, the K cups. If you're a K cup user, they have Appalachian Night. You can buy that. You've got Ian's Graphine Dream was recently released as K cups and Ian's Graphing Dream is the most popular coffee that we've got and there's a boatload of that in stock now. So if you want to head on over to Casper.com and get some of that, you can get it. Of course there's the regular bags. You can get focus with Mr. Bocus. You can probably get some Sleepy Joe if you like the, the decaf stuff. So head on over to Casper.com and get yourself some coffee and then head over to timcast.com and, and join our Discord. You can join the Discord and that's how you get access to the after show and call to call in on the after show after, you know, after the, the normal two hours we, we go to the after show in the Discord. There's 20, 000 people or so. You've got a bunch of different podcasts that have started in the Discord. There's the Roman Nation podcast, there's Tyler Today News, a bunch of podcasts that are definitely worth your time, meet like minded individuals and maybe you can meet a girl or something like that because there's people that have been married because of the Discord. So head on over to that and also why don't you head on over to rumble.com and join Rumble and you can become, you can join the after show on rumble.com the, the uncensored after show. Tonight we're going to be talking about some news that I'm not even going to touch. I'm not even gonna, gonna, gonna give you a preview until the end of the show because it's that volatile. YouTube gets very, very angry. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know and head on over to Rumble and join Rumble tonight. Joining us to talk about this and so much more is AK Camara.
AK Kamara
Kamara. Right?
Phil
My bad. Who are you and what do you do?
AK Kamara
My name is AK Kamara. I am actually the Republican National Committee man from the state of Minnesota, a member of the vaunted 168. I make content online and all around. I just want to try and help stop this bleeding of, of liberalism coming out of the state of Minnesota. So I'm trying to do my part.
Phil
Awesome. Thanks for joining us. We've got Raymond G. Stanley here.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Hey, what's up, guys? Raymond G. Stanley Jr. I am the resident blue collar Tim cast. I like to think of myself as a common sense revolutionary. I planted some trees yesterday and you know what they say, a great man. Plant trees for the shade. They will never know what's up, Brett?
Brett Das
Yes. And as a fellow Minnesotan whose last name gets continually pronounced wrong on.
Phil
Right. It's Dovich, isn't it?
Brett Das
My name is Brett Das. Let's go.
Phil
All right. I'm, I'm just, I'm just playing. We all know.
Brett Das
We'll go with the Sovich.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's fine.
Phil
So Post Millennial is reporting. CNN accuses Trump of spreading debunked conspiracy theories during Oval Office confrontation with South Africa's president. CNN criticized President Donald Trump's meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, calling the interaction an ambush. After President Trump evidence. After President Trump presented evidence of the persecution and killing of white South Africans. The meeting held on Wednesday at the White House drew attention when Trump showed Ramaphosa a video containing a violent political chance and statement officials against Africanas as well as footage of burial sites of white farmers. Responding to a reporter's questions about the alleged genocide of whites in South Africa, Trump said, we have thousands of stories talking about it. We have documentaries, we have news stories. Before playing video clips that included chants of kill the boar and statements such as killing is part of a revolution. Trump also cited reports of burial sites with over a thousand white farmers and South Africans fleeing violence. So this is something that a lot of people that spend, you know, any significant amount of time on X, you know, political X, you'll see this kind of stuff fairly regularly. There's talk of the, the term genocide I think is loaded nowadays. And I personally wouldn't, I wouldn't call this a genocide. I do think it's political persecution, but I don't know. I don't know what you guys think. Do you guys have a take on whether.
AK Kamara
It depends on. I think you're right that when you use the term genocide, we have like a historically accurate use of the word. But ever since, obviously Israel and Palestine, anyone that is anti Israel, they're always saying that it's Genocide. Genocide. And it's like, well, is it really? And now in this case, I think you're kind of having the counter to that. Now, I know completely different situations, but there is an actual term. I think definitions do matter. And having people that are persecuted or hunted because of their ethnicity does fall in that term of genocide. So, you know, whether or not you say, oh, you know, how many hundreds of thousands or millions of people have died in South Africa, it's not a genocide. I think that that's actually not what's at the heart of the issue. It's. Are people specifically being targeted with policies from a government that allow someone to be killed for no other reason other than the fact that they are this ethnicity or this group? I think that's what is happening in South Africa now, whether you're looking at the wer Muslims and there's so many other groups that actually have been targeted by the government. I. That's why I honestly don't think that calling what's happening in Gaza a genocide is the same, because they're not specifically just trying to go after people that are of Palestinian descent. They're trying to go after Hamas. And it's terrible. And I don't like any innocent life that is lost. But I do think that there's going to be this back and forth where the left is like, oh, so you can call this a genocide, but you won't call this a genocide. And, and I just think, again, President Trump and what he did to President of South Africa, Ramaphosa, he kind of had him stuck because he's like, getting him to acknowledge, look at all the things that are happening. And Trump, I think, was careful to say, like, I'm not going to say it's this term, but let's hear what people from South Africa have to say and kind of letting the story tell itself. But I think again, if you look at the actual term of genocide, it's targeted action going after specific groups that is supported by the government for no other reason other than they are the specific ethnic group.
Phil
Yeah, I mean, Brett, you, you were talking earlier about the, the definition of genocide and whether or not this meets the standard. Political. You can, you know, you can't deny that it's political persecution. You have people being removed from their land, expropriation of property. And historically, those types of things lead to, you know, I mean, if they don't lead to genocide, they definitely have led to terrible, terrible oppression.
Brett Das
Well, yeah, I think the most interesting part of it is that, you know, with American politics now kind of being a spectator sport, it becomes a bu. People discussing whether the terminology fits the crime. And a lot of times I find that that in a lot of ways ends up kind of watering down the horror of it all in a lot of cases, because it's a lot of us, whether it's even on here, in a way, when you're discussing it on a show like this or if you're talking about it on X, you're the people. At least. What I saw from the clip from CNN was them going after the terminology they're using. But they're doing that as a way of obfuscating the discussion that's supposed to be had, which is about what's actually happening there. And that's kind of a m. Microcosm of how I see politics these days, which is everybody argues without actually knowing. There's no shared terminology for anything anymore. And you're talking past each other and very little gets accomplished because everybody's using their own language, their own ends, and I find a lot of it to be very annoying.
AK Kamara
Well, here's. Here's the thing. I think we also have to recognize.
Phil
It'S nothing this parliament can do.
AK Kamara
Like, we have to recognize that in the current political environment, with both sides being so polarized, they're going to kind of stick to the thing that they think is going to help give them, you know, a place to stand politically, to be able to make a move or an action. And because we're becoming highly. Like we've had this whole racial identitarian thing that's been kind of popping up again, kind of like a counter to Black Lives Matter, I think you're seeing a tendency of the right to want to glom onto things that are, quote, unquote, pro white. That's my perspective. I'm not necessarily against calling out when bad things happen, but as an American citizen that, like, I genuinely say this, like my heart goes out to people that suffer anywhere in the world. But as an American citizen, why should I care about a genocide that's happening in South Africa or a genocide that's happening anywhere if it's not American interest?
Phil
Yeah.
AK Kamara
And I'll be honest, I really don't. From, like, again, a strategic United States perspective, I don't really care that much.
Phil
Yeah. So it's what you got something.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I would say I agree with you about the pro American part, but as a human being, it kind of sucks to watch countries overseas.
Phil
That's because so many people killed.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
As a human being, you know what.
Brett Das
I Mean, that's because the Internet is forced you to now have access to all that information all the time. Human beings were not designed for that.
Phil
100. I was gonna, I, I was actually gonna say something very similar. We aren't designed, we haven't evolved to be able to process the amount of suffering that we have access to view nowadays.
AK Kamara
Yeah.
Phil
Like if you saw, if you lived in a village, you know, you know, or in a, you know, some kind of small tribe or whatever a thousand years ago, you might see a terrible, you might, you might see a war, you might see a slaughter in your tribe, but you most likely wouldn't see that kind of stuff happen. Like on a date. You'd see, you'd be plenty familiar with death. I don't want people to misunderstand what I'm saying because there was a lot more death. Babies died, you know, in birth, women died in childbirth. You'd be more familiar with death. But that kind of horror of like, slaughter of people en masse, that kind of stuff, you, you didn't see if you were a tribal person so much unless you ran into another tribe or went into war. And so the, the phenomena of like, slaughtering people is in, in the way that we see it today, where it's constantly fed to you through, you know, through the Internet or even through television. Like that. That wasn't the norm. I do think it's worth pointing out or listening to the, the way that CNN kind of, kind of framed the interaction. And I think we're going to go ahead and play the, the video that Don. South African President. So are you going to run it.
AK Kamara
His best diplomatic self to this meeting?
Phil
But nothing could have prepared him for.
AK Kamara
This multimedia ambush that President Trump laid.
Brett Das
Out with video, with printed out news stories. This was a laundry list of debunks. This was a laundry list of debunked conspiracy theories.
AK Kamara
Some South Africans are telling me this is Afriforum propaganda. Afriforum is a Watch. Afriq Africana lobby group that's considered a white nationalist organization by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Everything, almost everything that President Trump said.
Brett Das
In the Oval Office is not true.
AK Kamara
Was inaccurate, has been repeatedly debunked.
Phil
Yeah, I mean, look, there's, there's a couple things that are worth pointing out. First of all, there's the, the, the point that, that he was making or the point that we started making, how this is always going to be framed as white supremacy because that's what the left does. The, the political organizations in South Africa that are calling for the, the death of the white farmers and calling to, to push out people that own property and stuff. They're all, all Marxists and they're basing their, their, their politics are based largely on anti colonial, you know, post colonial theory and stuff like that. We're going to go ahead and play the video or some of the video that, that Trump played in the Oval Office today so you can get a sense of what they were talking about. Can do.
AK Kamara
There's nothing this parliament can do with or without you. People are going to occupy land. We require no permission from you, from the president, from no one. We don't care. We can do whatever you want to do. Who are you to tell us whether we can occupy land or not? We are going to occupy land. South African occupy land. That's who we are.
Phil
Can withdraw my membership from this useless parliament. Honorable.
AK Kamara
Yes, honorable member. Must never be scared to kill a revolution.
Phil
Demand that at some point there must be killing because the killing is part of a revolutionary act. Okay, so that right there is straight out of the. What, what is, what's the if it's Franz Fannin's book the Wretched of the Earth. So Franz Fanon wrote a book about decolonialism called the Wretched of the Earth. And one of the, one of the main tenets of declo of decolonizing an area is you have to be violent. There's violence is part of, of, of revolution. It's part of decolonizing. And you don't, you don't get to have decolonization without the violence.
AK Kamara
Yeah, revolution, nothing less. Right. Like that's the mantra that's constantly spouted by these Marxists. So earlier, like I said in the United States we can frame things of like why does the left glom onto this? Why does the right glom onto this? And you can kind of see those. But when you look at a bigger global picture, you're right. All of these movements are founded in Marxism, Communism, a idea of like having a collective organization of people that need to have a violent revolution to overthrow the existing structure. The, all of it, whether it's economic or even just the way that a government is formed, you have to have the revolution. And you see it all throughout Africa. My father's from Sierra Leone, West Africa. We had a civil war in the 90s. Right. And if you actually strip it down and boil it down, guess what happens? You had a movement of Marxists or people that were more communist aligned and that's what you continually have happen all throughout Africa. It's not an issue of whether it's colonialism or decolonialism. It's about Marxism. It's about communism. And that's the reason why 80 years after basically the British Empire left and moved away from Africa, you still have the issues that you have because they want to institute a system that is anti human. Communism is anti human. You cannot strip people's property and rights away and redistribute it willy nilly. People just don't stand for it. And so you're seeing this and that's really what's happening. So when you go back to initially what that reporter guy was saying from Nairobi, he was saying, oh, President Trump is lying. He's pushing all these conspiracies. That's their framing from a Marxist perspective is you have to say reality and truth. That you see it is a lie. Don't believe your lying eyes. And that's what this all comes back down to, is that this is like just communism and Marxism in a different flavor.
Phil
Yep. So I'm going to go back to some of the stuff that they were saying in the video.
AK Kamara
The poor, the farmer, kill the poor, the farmer. The mayor of DA in PE is a white man. So these people, when you want to hit them hard, go after a white man. They feel a terrible pain because you have touched a white man. Not because Mashaba and Soli will not be touched. They will be touched. Don't worry. But we are starting with this whiteness. We are cutting the throat of whatness.
Phil
Yeah. So I mean, the argument that this isn't about, you know, racially motivated retribution. I mean, I, I don't think that anyone can seriously make that argument.
AK Kamara
Yeah, not in a sane world. I mean, the way that the left always tries to frame it.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
AK Kamara
Is that racism can only flow one way. If you're white, you're racist to other people. But if you're black because of oppression or whatever, and especially in the case of South Africa, they say, well, because of apartheid, we can't be racist. We're just simply getting our get back. And it's like, well, no, from a technical term, you are discriminating against people on the basis of their race. You are being racist. But yeah, it's what to me is the most fascinating. It's dead giveaway. He's wearing a red beret. I mean, red beret, dead giveaway, man. You're coming, bro.
Brett Das
You should also be very weary of the way in which much of that language has already crept into Western Marxist language and rhetoric. Whether it's decolonizing math or destroying or eliminating whiteness. The worst part is, is there's a lot of useful idiots in colleges who take the, who don't get the full perspective from the people that are teaching these courses to them until they've been fully radical. And then by the time they try to explain to you what that means, they can't really understand or explain to you what it means to decolonize math out of than to. Other than to tell you that it's too white. Right. But the problem is, is the language goes the whole way up. It's top down. That language works at the top of that discussion. It works all the way to the bottom. When you're talking about something like whether your college classes have enough of one race or another.
Phil
Yeah.
Brett Das
Look at what they've done to colleges that don't allow enough Asian students in because they test. They don't care.
Phil
Yeah. There are people that will make the argument that, oh, these are sophisticated ideas. And part of the problem is when you, when you present sophisticated ideas to unsophisticated people, you end up with things like, you know, more racism. But actually the ideas are good. It's just that they've been, they've been, they've been given to people in a way that they don't fully understand the ideas. And I think stuff like, stuff like this kind of debunks that because at the end of the day, like the bottom line of it is just take their stuff because they're a specific race. Because, because of power dynamics. Honestly, like, I think the race is actually secondary to the. When it comes to Marxism, race is secondary to it. It happens to be in, in South Africa that the, the white people were the people in power and the people, the black people are not historically not been the people in power. But I don't think that that's necessary in the, in the, in the overall situation, you know, in the, in the overall situation. But it is, it is functionally that way. And I don't think that you can deny that.
AK Kamara
Yeah. I mean, if you just think about it, leftism, communism is always reductionist. So let's say that they were able to accomplish their great, you know, goal. They were able to get rid of whiteness in South Africa and, and they had all the control and they kicked all the white people out or made them slaves or whatever their dream is.
Phil
Right.
AK Kamara
They're just gonna now focus on the next ethnic group that they feel has created an oppressor. Oppressor versus oppressed. Because that's the trueness of Marxism and communism is they will find a reason. There are plenty of, again, all throughout the globe, plenty of the same people that have killed other people that would be discernibly no different to me. But they would say, oh, well, this is, this group, ye know, they, they have all of the farming technology, so they're oppressing us or this group over here, they're doing this. And I mean, you look all throughout human history, especially during Stalin, right? Like starving out the people that, you know, I can't remember the ethnic group or whatever, but in Russia, like, they.
Phil
Wasn'T even, it was, it wasn't ethics, it was kulaks.
AK Kamara
Yes, yes, the kulaks.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Phil
Before they decided that. Before word had kind of got around and people realized that, that capitalism works good.
AK Kamara
Yeah, yeah. And so exact, exact example, that also happened in Cambodia, right? So the whole race thing is a rouge. The same with gender ideology. It's, it's, it's all a ruse. If you look, whatever they believe, and by they, I'm talking about people that believe in this communist Marxist ideology, they will find their wedge. If it's about the environment, they'll use the environment. So none of those things actually matter in the grand scheme. It's all about what can they use as a wedge to induce the revolution.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I don't know why you guys don't believe what he's saying. He said they debunked it. What people say on the streets, debunked. What you see in the videos, debunked. Just like they say about mask, debunked.
Brett Das
So if he's told, there's a lot of, there's a lot of power to a lot of people about being told something by a guy in a suit, right? Like that's, that's very powerful.
AK Kamara
He seems like he knows a lot of things with that suit.
Brett Das
He's got a nice suit on. They got some great computer graphics on there. He seems like knows what he's talking about.
Phil
That, that's unfortunate, but it's true. All right, so I think, I think we should jump to this, this next, this next story from the Post Millennial federal judge blocks Trump administration from removing criminal Illegal Immigrants to Third party nations. South Sudan. While I think that's kind of hilarious, like the idea of just sending the South Sudan.
AK Kamara
Let's go.
Phil
We'll, we'll get into it. A federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to maintain custody of criminal illegal immigrants who were allegedly flown to South Sudan. Judge Brian Murphy held an emergency hearing Tuesday and issued an order instructing the administration to maintain custody and control of class members currently being removed to South Sudan or to any other third country to ensure the practical feasibility of return if the court finds that such removals were unlawful. At least a dozen migrants were reportedly deported to South Sudan this week, including illegal immigrants from Myanmar, Vietnam, and Mexico, despite a standing court order restricting removals to third countries. Attorneys representing the migrants told the court that immigration authorities have sent people from various countries to Africa, potentially violating a prior ruling that guarantees migrants a meaningful opportunity to argue that deportation to a country other than their homeland wouldn't endanger their safety. Look, I'm all for sending people back to their countries of origin, but if their countries of origin won't take them, we've talked about this. Where are they supposed to go? Personally, I think they should go to Gitmo.
AK Kamara
Yeah.
Phil
Because. Because it's, you know, it's us Technically, it's US Territory. There's an, you know, an indefinite lease on that. On that property. And, you know, it's. It's nice there. It's warm. They don't have to worry about, like, you know, keeping it cool or whatever.
Brett Das
That's why Trump wanted Greenland. Maybe he just wanted to ship them.
AK Kamara
Yeah, I want to ship them all that. Well, here's the deal, right?
Phil
Greenland is harder than. Than the Caribbean, though, because you heat it, you don't have to keep being cold.
AK Kamara
So here's the deal. Like, when you think about what Trump is doing here, at least the way that I perceive it, as he's throwing out these. These flyers, these kites, right? Saying, what can we actually do? In this specific case, these people that were sent to South Sudan were all convicted of very heinous crimes in the United States. And their reason was pretty simple. They said, we have a history of these countries not wanting to take them back. So if you can imagine if someone was convicted of a terrible, horrible, awful crime, and they're like, we're going to send them back to you, buddy. You're like, nah, we're good. We don't want them. And so by using this, you know, going around this. This federal district judge, which, by the way, I agree with what has been said on the show before. I think it's unconstitutional that these district judges are putting these injunctions that are universal. I think that that's garbage, nonsense. So I'm glad that the Trump administration is defying this federal judge and saying, all right, here's. Here's this. This test case. These terrible, awful people. South Sudan Said they would take them. It's way less expensive than sending them to Gitmo. I like the idea of Gitmo, but it's expensive to operate Gitmo. So I like this because it's like, all right, your move now. Are you going to beg to have convicted rapists and murderers sent back to American soil? I mean, we just saw the story of the 11 people breaking out of jail right. In Louisiana. I mean, hey, would you want those people back on the streets? They're not American citizen. So I just love the idea of what Trump's doing here.
Brett Das
I saw people were betting on the order in which they're all being returned because they've like five of them have been caught.
AK Kamara
Yeah.
Phil
Oh, you're talking about the.
Brett Das
Yeah, the New Orleans.
AK Kamara
Yes, New Orleans.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
11 South Sedan. Basically, the police spoke spokesperson said they if they're not south cities, they're going to be deported back to their country. So we're going to send them there. Who just had a huge famine back in 2023.
Phil
Yeah, yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Millions displaced and then they're going to send them back to where they came from.
Phil
I'm sending South Sudan. I mean, I, I don't understand why with a. What the point of that. That why the administration sent that country.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Aram tactic, scare tactics maybe.
Phil
I mean, you're going to go to a place with no food, maybe I.
AK Kamara
Wouldn'T be surprised if we found out that there was some type of agreement, some type of handshake saying like, hey, we're going to send these resources over or you do this for us, which I'm all for. I mean, again, this is the purview of the executive office. And I think that's why I like what Trump in the admin is doing is they're testing the bounds and limitations and I'm all for it, man. At the end of the day, people are here without permission, legally and actually after they've committed heinous crimes on American soil, to argue that they should be able to stay here for some reason is absurd. So I, I think that ultimately this is going to have to go up to a higher court, Supreme Court, But I think that, that the, you know, Trump administration's moves on this make perfect sense and it's within their purview. But the South Sudan thing, I think is just to like, be a little bit extreme to make a point.
Brett Das
It's kind of like they're holding, it's in a weird way, it's like they're able to hold the country hostage in a way so Mexico can hold the country hostage by having violent offenders who came here illegally, then commit crimes here and then not take them back. And then you don't have any recourse because you've made it a political issue in your own country. And there's no good answer to any.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Of that, that, well, Yemen is one of the least safest countries in the world. So we can just send them there and Yemen, yes, what it says and 2024 ranked as the most unsafe country.
Brett Das
Unsafe.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Scare them. Yeah, unsafe.
AK Kamara
Yeah, there's a lot of.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
We gotta send them somewhere.
AK Kamara
Rebels going.
Phil
No, I don't think that's. I don't think that's gonna work out well.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Go, go home or go to Yemen. What do you want?
Phil
Maybe the thing is that their countries of origin don't. Are, don't. Don't want them. They.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's what I mean.
Phil
Likely criminals. And they don't care.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Suck it up. You're getting going to Yemen, bro.
Phil
I don't know that the Yemenis would. To land. So we'd have to, we'd have to launch them.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
We'll teach them how to give them parachutes.
Phil
We shoot missiles at the, at the Yemenis regularly. So I think that we, you know, they might get killed on the descent.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You know, I just looked up the most dangerous one.
Brett Das
Maybe what happens is the CIA starts taking really, really bad American criminals and sending them over the border to other countries and they'll commit crimes there and then we won't take them back. When they try to send them back.
AK Kamara
To us, I think we're not.
Brett Das
And then we'll say, see how you like, like it.
Phil
Yeah, I mean, I, like I said, I've said this a bunch of times. I don't care where they go at all. Sure, get them out. Like if, if you're a criminal, like, get them out. I don't care what, you know, where we send them at all. But I do think that the best option is Gitmo.
AK Kamara
Yeah.
Phil
You know, I mean.
Brett Das
There.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Sorry. About 30,000. How big?
Phil
I don't know what the capacity is. I have no idea.
Brett Das
This is also an issue to hold up any type of policy making in America because of the kind of suicidal empathy of Lib. Liberalism has now created an issue where the average person, and remember, like, half this country doesn't vote anyways and doesn't pay super close attention to politics. And they look at something like this and they say, Trump is sending, you know, people to Sudan who aren't from Sudan. And it looks awful to people that don't understand what's going on. So it is a way, in effect, to hold the country hostage by not allowing you to deport people who have proven themselves to be violent or a threat to the country.
Phil
Yeah, I mean, look, society, the US has the right to say, look, you are not just breaking our laws, but you are causing problems in our society. You're violent, you don't want to play by the rules. You make it clear. You look at the way that a lot of these immigrants, particularly the gang members, the way that they behave, the way that they, you know, flip off the camera when they get arrested thing, they swear that they're not going to be, you know, they're like, I'll be out and I'm going to blah, blah, blah. They don't have any kind of desire for, for, for rehabilitation. It's always just like, oh, when I get out, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. So you've got to do something with them. And like I said, I don't care where they go. But I think that, you know, if forever in jail is perfectly fine, like, you can't let these people out if they're not, if they're, you know, if they're swearing that they're going to continue to commit crimes and, and they're not going to do, you know, they're not, they don't want to assimilate and they're going to keep doing this and that, that you can't do anything with these people if.
AK Kamara
Yeah. And again, I think it's important for people to understand, though, that in this specific case, they're sending people that have already been convicted of heinous crimes in the United States. And just from a functional standpoint, you send them back to their home country that doesn't want to take them, they're just going to release them and then they're going to come back in the United States and then they're going to do the thing. And again, long term, like under this administration, they're not coming back United States very easily. But there are people that still get through the border. Like, I know the numbers are way, way, way, way down, like 95 or whatever, but people still get over. So it's like, why would we take someone that was convicted, keep them on American soil and spend American dollars when we can just send them over somewhere else? And, and that's, I think what the administration's mindset is, is let's see how this can really play out. That if there's an Appetite by the American people. They say, yeah, we are supportive of this. I think that we continue to do it more, but if not, then we have to find other creative solutions. Solutions.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I got a great idea. You know how they're crying about the immigrants not doing the strawberries or picking the farms? We can put them on in jails, of course, but during the day they can pick the farms and get the strawberries.
AK Kamara
We put chains on their legs.
Phil
Yeah.
AK Kamara
Bring back the chain gang.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah.
AK Kamara
I don't know, man. I just don't trust them.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Solves two problems at once.
AK Kamara
Yeah, I just. I just don't trust them. I'd rather just get them out of here and, and hopefully again get some capitulation by some of these other names.
Phil
I don't think people that are particular. I think that the people that get to go into those jobs, like those people generally are not low flight risk and all. Yeah, they're low flight risk. They're not likely George Santos will go there. George Santos should be free.
AK Kamara
That's true.
Phil
He's way too funny. The Republicans in Congress, by booting him, they made a terrible move. They gave up a seat. They should. They should be ashamed of themselves. They're all awful anyways. I hate almost.
Brett Das
I mean, but he did actually do what he was convicted of, right?
Phil
Yeah, but the Democrats wouldn't.
AK Kamara
It was a naughty boy.
Brett Das
I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm bipartisan when it comes to, like to scummy politicians. I don't really care what happens.
Phil
No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm straight up, whatever's gonna make my side win now.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, we're at that point.
AK Kamara
I don't.
Phil
Yeah, I don't care. I don't care. Like the left embrace. The left literally embraced communists like they've embraced leftists that will destroy the country. So whatever we need to do to make sure that they lose.
Brett Das
Well, you better have gotten like one of George, One of his cameos. He had a cameo for a while. You should have gotten Happy Birthday, Phil.
AK Kamara
Cameo from George Sant.
Phil
I don't need that.
Brett Das
If he's still got one in jail. I'll actually, I'll buy that for.
AK Kamara
Hey, you go check it out.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Great for the show. Good content.
Phil
That would be hilarious. Someone should get it. Someone in the, in the, in the viewing audience.
Brett Das
Like you're gonna, you're gonna.
Phil
From George Santos.
Brett Das
The day, the day you have your kid, you're gonna get a video from George Santos.
AK Kamara
Oh, there you go.
Phil
Congratulations. That might be terrible. So so what do you guys think? Did, did we just. We just send them off to south Sudan and, and hope that they take them or hope they can stay or what?
AK Kamara
Yeah, I mean, I, I think again, there is some type of agreement. I don't think we're just going in under cover of night and just randomly dropping them off somewhere. If we were, I'd still actually be in favor of that. But I think that there's some type of agreement of like, hey, we're going to bring these people over here. And I imagine, because this is how it went with, with el salvador, like, it wasn't just like, oh, we'll take them for free. And it's, there's something in the deal for them. And one of the good things is that it helps strengthen our relationship with them. So, yeah, I, I'm for it, man. I say send more of them. Especially again, unequivocal people that have been convicted in the united states for horrendous crimes. Send them all, man. Get them out of here.
Phil
Yeah. All right, I think, I think we're going to jump to this next story here. Venezuelan man arrested after posing as a teen to enroll in ohio high school illeg. Legal immigrant anthony labrador sierra charged with forgery after enrolling at a perrysburg high school as a 16 year old student. Now, I don't think this is the guy. I think this, I think this is.
AK Kamara
That guy with the blonde area.
Phil
And I mean, maybe he could pass for 16, but he's got a lot of, a lot of dirt on his lip for 16. Anyways. A 24 year old illegal immigrant from venezuela was arrested in perrysburg, ohio after he allegedly enrolled in a public high school using fraudulent documents documents. Court records show that a 24. That 24 year old Anthony emanuel labrador sierra has been charged with forgery and is being held on $50,000 bond. The Perrysburg police department said it was contacted by the perrysburg local schools on Monday about possible fraudulent activity involving one of its students. After a preliminary investigation, a fraud charge was established and handed over to the department's detectives for further investigation. Detectives worth worked with u. S. Customs and border protection and u. S. Immigration and customs enforcement and it was discovered that labrador was Labrador. Yes, that's right. It was a 24 year old from venezuela. Investigators also learned labrador sierra used fraudulent documents to enroll in perrysburg school and was posing as a 16 year old student. I mean, is that all they say about him, huh? He's not, he's not.
AK Kamara
You know how they say that, that when people come to this country. They don't know English. They'll watch like, American movies. Maybe the only movie that worked was Billy Madison. Yeah, he watched it over and over and over again. He's like, this is my, this is how I'm gonna do it.
Phil
I'm just gonna go.
Brett Das
I was gonna say this is Hollywood's fault. This was Hollywood's fault for 30 years of movies where high schoolers are played by dudes in their late 20s and early 30s.
Phil
Right.
AK Kamara
Here's what's even a little bit more horrifying. Like, it is kind of funny when you think about it. Like, how did no one know? Hopefully he didn't have contact with any of the females that were children there. That would be horrifying. But also, can I just point out, there's no way that that's his real name. Labrador, Sierra. Like, that just, that just sounds fake.
Brett Das
But he's just trying to, he's just got a dare and he's just trying to see how long he can get away with it.
AK Kamara
It's, it's, it's insane. But yeah, I mean, listen, this entire idea that he is posing as it as a kid, there's a lot more questions of actually what's happening in our school system. Because we've had teachers in, in back in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, Minneapolis public school teachers and said, you know, basically we're going to hide, you know, criminal aliens from ICE and everything like that. Like, they're 100% saying that that's what they're going to do. I wonder if they did the same here.
Phil
Like, did.
AK Kamara
Were there certain teachers that knew and they were like, okay, we're just going to, you know, let him pose. Because like, if he's acting as a 16 year old who was acting as an adult, does he have more people that came in? Cuz you can't just show up at 16 and be like, I'm registering for school, I'm by myself. Like, I think there's going to be a couple of questions.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
He had a host family. Family and basically his baby mama, Evelyn Camacho, contacted the host family in March 14, 2025, saying like, yo, this guy's 25 year old and he's a father of my child. And then she gave him, she gave documentation to the family and they're like, okay, this guy's not so.
Phil
Okay.
AK Kamara
How did, how did he get to the host family?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's a good one.
AK Kamara
How did he get to the host family?
Unknown Speaker
Like, this is what, this is what drives me crazy. So this guy was Able to claim. Like in the article here, he says he claimed fake asylum basically because he's Venezuelan. So he called, he claims asylum from all the communist, the Communist party meant, like, all this stuff's going on. They're oh, it's super dangerous me to live in Venezuela. But the issue, and you talked about this earlier when you were talking about Americans. Why should Americans care about this? Like, okay, I understand that Americans generally care for like, freedom and you know, like, like Raymond said, you want people to die and everything like that. Right. These are fake asylees. He's not claiming asylum from anything. Like, we are claiming asylum from a genocide that maybe is not happening right now, but it's getting pretty close when you have all these stadium people talking about, oh, we must go kill the poor, we must go make sure every one of them dies. But it's, it's, it's crazy that that's even like if you put that on YouTube, but it's like, oh, it's bad. You can't say that. It's okay. Well then how are we supposed to say, like, yo, there's stadiums of people that want to kill all of us and it's there maybe not. They may not have, have reached critical mass yet for it to be genocide. It's like, I agree that, that maybe that's not the thing, but it's like, I don't want to just let it happen.
Phil
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
I'm not going to stand idly by. Why I, as an American coming from that country, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna let all these people die like that be crazy if I were to do that.
AK Kamara
It 100% shows though, that our, our asylum system is so broken.
Unknown Speaker
Exactly.
AK Kamara
And whenever someone just makes again, a fake claim, I'm glad at least the, like, I mean, Fox News, they do okay from time to time, but yeah, I mean, this is happening for so many people. So like I said, when you start to dig deeper, you ask, well, who approached the host family? Like, there has to be multiple people involved in this. Right. But it's like you said to your point though, is like there are actual. If, if, if we as American people say we do have an asylum system, I, I think I'm, I'm at this table saying, I think we should. I, I, I like the idea that if there are people that truly are suffering because, because God has blessed this great nation with more, that there should be a process to be able to allow us to be able to vet those people. But the way that the last administration Biden was using it is just insane. It's just like mass, like, oh, all of you are asylee seekers. It's just like, that's insane.
Phil
I mean, that's, that's a big part of the problem is the fact that they've abused the system. And I'm talking about the administration, not the people that have come here. The administration abused the system so much that the American people are just fed up with it. I just saw a poll today, even after all of the, you know, Maryland man, and all of the, the left using the media to do their best to try to, to make all of the people that the Trump administration has been deporting, who are almost all criminals, now they're starting with the criminals. They're almost all hardened criminals, bad people. The left has been trying to cast them as innocent victims and, and normal people that are just getting, you know, brutalized by the Trump administration. Even after all that, 66% of the American population, 2/3 of the people say we want deportations, not we want, we want to. They're aware that the, the influx has stopped. They're aware that the border is actually under control and they still want deportations. This is not a situation where the American people are just going to be like, no, you know what? It's fine line. And I really hope that that shows at the, at the, at the, you know, at the polls when it, when it comes time for, for the votes in, in 20, 20, 28. Like, you need to make sure that if Congress does not do the things necessary to deport people, that people that are up for reelection lose their seats. Right? They should be primaried. They should lose their seats. Democrats should, should definitely lose their seats to whoever the Republican is because the Democrats are in lockstep and doing everything they can to defend murderers and rapists.
Brett Das
Also, think about how deep the ideological rot goes for the teachers, if you really think about it. You were talking earlier about the idea that teachers were shielding them from deportation or shielding them from ice. So you're taking somebody who, you can't confirm any real facts about, somebody who's misrepresented themselves to. You put them, them around children and then want to protect them. The kids should be your first and foremost, the thing that you care about the most, the thing that you protect the most, your children. The kids that you're in charge of taking care of while they're in your school. And they don't put them above somebody who has been misrepresented is already a criminal because they're here illegally and you're choosing them over the safety of the children in the, in the school?
AK Kamara
Yes, because, because I think the left has this huge blind spot and I always try and like delineate. There's like the rank and file people that are like default Democrat left and then there's the people that are organizing, that are part of the actual structure of the left. Those that are organizing that are part of the structure. The majority of them understand that they have political goals and aims and they know that they're not popular. So they always have to like obscure and make things seem like they're not what they are. Versus the average rank and file Democrats or person on the left. They just believe that oh, someone comes to this country, it's because they want a better life. Who are we to say that we shouldn't give them a better life? And I think a lot of the teachers that are part of these teachers unions that are happening all across America are the same thing where they're like, why wouldn't we protect this, this family? They're just here for a better life. But they don't recognize or even acknowledge that there are bad faith actors, evil exists. There are people that are doing horrifying things and if we don't have a system that can even check that, you're actually not helping anything, all you're doing is hurting the system.
Unknown Speaker
Dude. If you look right here on the same article, you can see where it says the federal judge in San Francisco ordered the Department of Homeland Security to continue TPS status for Venezuela. Even though like it was said to not do it, they disagree with it numerous times. It's like, like you said, like, what are, like what are we, what are we supposed to do? Unless, unless we start to, at a certain point. For me it's like, what are we going to do until we got the system? One of my friends who's like the left, a left key friend of mine in D.C. was like, I'm surprised. He's recently just been having like this hard red pill moment where he's like, well I don't care who gets rid of the corruption and, and the nonsense. It's like someone has to do it. And if, if it, if the, if you believe in the government, you believe in sim at all, like you're going to say like someone has to do it, you know. So yeah, I was going to call him a leftist. He's like default them. But you know the same thing. It's, it says he's only realizing now that like, oh like they lied to me about the, about the shots. Oh, they lied to me about all this stuff. And he's like realizing, Realizing what? Is having a red pill moment. He's just having it happen. It's kind of being forced by all this stuff.
Brett Das
But I feel like that's something that I come back to a lot on the show because so much of what we talk about is so deep in the weeds with politics that it's obfuscated by the fact that look, a large swath of the population. You call them default Democrat. I call it more just default liberalism in this country which is like maybe they vote, maybe they don't, but they see that. And it goes back to what I said about suicidal empathy, which is that being raised in America, you are raised to understand that you live in the greatest country on earth, you have among, you are among the most economically and socially privileged people on the planet. Doesn't matter what race you are, you were born into one of the most amazing places you could ever be from. But the problem is, is that's been twisted by Marxists, by Communists to be a bad thing. That has to that they have to then go against their own self interest to prove that they are as good as they need to be to fit in within what society believes to be acceptable. For Americans to believe you are not allowed to put, put your own self interest ahead of anything else during, in that belief system.
Phil
It's because you were born here.
Brett Das
It's because you were born here. Now there's a difference. Me and you, me and Phil have talked about endlessly about the idea that one of the things that you have to accept is that nobody's coming to save you, nobody's coming to help you. And that kind of separates a lot of people who fall on conservative lines more than, more than anything else. Whereas people on the left who do fall into that category of suicidal empathy believe that there is one thing that can fix everything and that's the head of their government. And when it's not them in power, it's all about the revolution. When they are in power, it's a weapon that is wielded against everyone else. And the people who hold it up are those oftentimes good willed default liberals who just don't understand how much of a dark weapon it is being used that, that that ideological system is being used against them and everyone else. And it's infuriating to see because you want to make them see it, but you can't. They have to find their way to that ant are on their own.
Phil
And most people won't be able to see it until it actually affects them or someone they know front door. You know, they, they'll feel like, oh, the government's just doing this because it's the right thing to do because we want to be good people. You know the argument about, you know, free speech, like, there's the argument, oh, you have to be able to say whatever you want, etc. Etc. And then when people are deported because they're saying things that are anti American, they're like, against America, it's like, well, he should have his free speech, etc. Etc. And it's like, look, it's not a criminal penalty for being deported. Is not criminal penalty. So there's no, there's no, it's not like you're being prosecuted by the, the state. The state can just say, oh, you know, you don't have, you don't get to stay. But sowing that kind of unrest has actual, tangible, real world ramifications. And it tends to be to hurt the, the fabric of, of the country. The, the, the people that make up the country start to believe, well, maybe my country's not all that great. And I think problems that, that we can't fix and maybe we do have to have some kind of significant change, maybe violence is acceptable. And these ideas start creeping around.
AK Kamara
I think that the left is susceptible to groupthink because they just have a tendency to want to believe in like this collective action thing, right? And I think that's why people that end up sorting themselves into Democrat or liberal versus right or conservative is because they just have a tendency. They're like, oh, I'm part of the collective group. And the left, left, again, the folks that I would say are part of the actual structure of making policy, they understand that. That's why they pound these narratives into your brain constantly over and over again. Talking about the Maryland man, literally, we had our local newspaper, Minneapolis, the Star Tribune, they wrote an article about a Twin Cities man who's an Ecuadorian national who crashed while drinking and driving and killed an American citizen. And ICE finally picked him up. But that's what happens with the left is that those that are in power use this desire and tendency of the left to be collective, to lie and trick them. And like you said already, it's until it's at their door that it has this very jarring, cognitive, dissonant moment. It's like, wait, wait, wait. All these things that I've been told are not true. And that's when you have like this great awakening and that's honestly what the mega movement is full of. A bunch of people that used to be on the left and their values really haven't changed change. It's just they're open to seeing, oh, the things that I was being lied to just aren't true.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Phil, before you move on to the crazy ladies, a white pill moment, is that still, even though with all the Maryland man stories, the Twin City man stories, all the lies from the media trying to get compassion for these criminal people, still 66 of America are like, yeah, get them.
Phil
Well, yeah, I mean, it's, it was popular before the election. It's the major reason why Donald Trump.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Was elected, not falling for the media.
Phil
Life, you know, and, and it is good that people are, are, are saying, I don't care. Yeah, that you know, the, that you're saying this about these people or I don't care that these people are going to have hardship, like people have hardships, but we can't allow 20 million people that are here illegally to stay in our country.
Brett Das
It's also astroturfed. Remember, Obama did campaign on illegal immigration and that was a very popular idea for both sides for a long time. And it wasn't until 2016 came around that that became something that became a no go on the left.
Phil
You know, from 20, well into 2020, you would hear the leftists that were protesting Donald Trump or what have you, they were protesting and saying things like, no, no ice, no wall, no USA at all. People heard that and they're like, oh, there are people in this country that don't even want the US to exist. And part of their method to dissolve the United States is to dissolve the borders. So that way there's no delineation between Americans and people from other countries. There's one thing that, that I want to talk about. The poll that, that Serge put into the, into the chat, it's 51:49. Where do we send them Back to Gitmo or back home to DC 49 to Gitmo and 5151 back home. I don't care where. But the point that the, the point is their home countries don't want them. So skip the question. Just send them all to get mold.
Brett Das
One more thing, if you want to point out to what we were talking about just a little bit ago about those kind of liberals who don't really understand their language is like when they have the sign in their yard that says no human being is illegal, and you understand that that is a slogan. It's a platitude. It means absolutely nothing. And if it was at their doorstep, they would absolutely understand what it means, but they're not thinking that deeply about it. So again, I think that a lot of times we get lost in the weeds and you kind of over discuss something that they're just not ready to have a conversation about at all.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Martha Vineyards is a perfect example.
Brett Das
Was, you know, that's worse. I think they actually know and they're just really awful. That's just, that's just a nimby. That's just a knot in my backyard.
Phil
All right, we're going to jump to this story. The Post Millennial is reporting Tennessee Dem State Rep Brags about Interfering in ICE operations this is great. We got our girl squad and we're bullying the ICE vehicles and state troopers, rep. Ben said in the video. I can't wait to watch this. Democrat 10 Democratic Tennessee State Representative garbage garnered sharp criticism on Tuesday after uploading a video of herself attempting to interfere with a recent US Immigration Customs operation near Nashville. In the video, Rep. Afton Ben, Democrat from Nashville, can be observed following federal and state law enforcement officers in a vehicle where Ben stated she had been bullying ICE agents in Tennessee Highway Patrol officers in an effort to thwart a May 9 immigration enforcement operation in Madison, Texas, Tennessee. This came while ICE had been conducting a week long targeted immigration enforcement operation to take on significant public safety threats which resulted in 196 apprehensions. So clearly she did a terrible job. This is Nashville State Representative Afton Ben. She's posted in a 15 minute video of her and a friend stalking the Tennessee Highway Patrol as they carried out official duties, openly admitting they were trying to stall law enforcement from stopping illegal aliens, wrote Republican Tennessee Congressman and Andy Ogles on X, who was quick to condemn the reps actions. Let's be clear. The Mayor of Nashville is enabling Nashville liberals to actively obstruct ICE and lawful law enforcement operations. This isn't just reckless, it's aiding and abetting. And yes it is. Let's watch her. Her doing a crime on the Internet.
AK Kamara
Okay, this is great.
Phil
We've got our girl squad and we're.
Brett Das
Bullying the ICE vehicles and state troopers.
AK Kamara
So this is like this is a win.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
She has a bunch of cats.
Brett Das
Your favorite blonde state Rep. Her phone's always at 1%.
Phil
She's drunk.
Brett Das
I think my superlative is likely to.
AK Kamara
Always have her phone give her breathalyzer.
Phil
So.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh yeah, true.
Brett Das
She's got the SSRIs. Okay, so we're waiting for my Phone to charge.
Phil
Let me send this to Emily and the girl. There we go.
AK Kamara
Oh, she's got to be sauced up.
Phil
She's totally hammered us.
Brett Das
Yeah, they think we were we live in deeply unserious times. My life.
Phil
Thankfully she's only a state.
Brett Das
The girl can't keep her phone charged.
Phil
So they're probably running.
Brett Das
Girl boss Nikki.
Phil
Tell us what's transpired tonight. So margaritas.
Brett Das
Margaritas and revolution and the THP people.
Phil
I did not put makeup on cuz.
AK Kamara
This was not okay then I'll put it back.
Phil
No, I already seen it.
AK Kamara
Okay. We found the ICE and the THP people and then we followed them to the gas station and I took their stuff spot at the gas station. So I think that made him a little upset. And then I tried to go in.
Phil
The bat in the gas station go.
AK Kamara
To the bathroom but the gas station people would not let me go even.
Brett Das
Though.
AK Kamara
I told them I really had to.
Brett Das
And then when I got out they.
AK Kamara
Were leaving so I left too. And then they pulled into another parking lot when I pulled into the other parking lot behind them. Then they flicked their light to pull.
Brett Das
Us over and accuse me of running.
Phil
A rat like this. So there we are.
AK Kamara
So here we are.
Phil
Tomato tomato. Help.
Brett Das
Okay. Why do you think that they came up to my side the state trooper came up to my side of the.
Phil
Window and not Nikki's window. Why do you think that happened?
Brett Das
No, she did not have to give her eyebrows.
AK Kamara
I know I'm correct. She's a girl boss.
Brett Das
So one why do you think that.
AK Kamara
The state trooper came up to my.
Phil
Window not Nikki's and then was I.
Brett Das
Am my did he asked for my.
AK Kamara
ID and Nikki said that that wasn't and he said it's a lawful order. It's a lawful order.
Unknown Speaker
I'm pretty sure it is.
Phil
Okay, so that's a crime.
AK Kamara
Yep.
Phil
To if it to and she admitted that she's in trying to inhibit the the the operations of ice her name.
Brett Das
Is Afton with a Y. You don't need to take her seriously.
Phil
Look no, we need to take her seriously and throw her in jail.
AK Kamara
Lock her up.
Phil
The seriousness is not because cut is so that way you can put her in jail if you don't take her seriously and say oh aren't you cute and pat her on the head and send her on the way. Look at you being a little resistant.
Brett Das
Throw her in jail.
Phil
And throw her in jail.
AK Kamara
Lock her up. So a couple things. One 100% cuz she's not driving. So I retract you don't have to give her breath alive. She's not driving, so at least she's drinking responsibly. Cuz she's in the passenger number two though. Yeah, lock her up, man. She's admitting that she's trying to obstruct them and even saying the things that she did. Cuz when the story first came across I was like, maybe she's just like doing one of these things where she's saying she did it, but like in, in reality she didn't. And it's just she's trying to be like whatever, online activist warrior. But yeah, it seems like they actually are admitting to the things that they did. Like, did it seem like they had a notebook that had some notes like the, the driver of the car was like referring to something that was written down or she was looking at something. But yeah, I, I say in this case, when someone openly, especially as an elected official says that they are trying to impede with immigration services, lock them up.
Brett Das
This lady doesn't tip her Uber driver, her Uber driver or her UberEats driver.
Phil
And how can you tell?
Brett Das
You. You can just tell.
AK Kamara
You can tell.
Brett Das
You can tell.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I, I'm super. You know, I love American. American people. But like Phil said, at some point we want to win back our country.
Phil
Country.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So send her to Sudan. South Sudan.
AK Kamara
Well, she is an American citizen.
Phil
I know.
AK Kamara
And, and the process that is due to her is actually different than the process due to criminal aliens.
Phil
Yeah, I mean I, I want to throw her in jail just for that first line of we got our girls.
Brett Das
I'm sure she's got a coffee cup that says keep calm and obstruct ice.
AK Kamara
Something like that. I bet she has a tick tock video. Video of. What is it? What was it called?
Brett Das
Get ready.
AK Kamara
I see new boots or whatever that trend was when they were like posting like, oh, this is where ICE is gonna be and we're gonna obstruct them. And then people are making like violent threats towards ICE agents. But I also do want to know whose vehicle that was because did you see that it was custom interior, all pink.
Phil
Yeah. Her friend had pink hair too.
AK Kamara
Yeah. So it could be either one. I, I hope it's hers though.
Brett Das
Like, you know, she's made like a get ready with me. I'm about to go and stage a revolution.
AK Kamara
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see new boots, man.
Brett Das
Like, like when you, like you say take them seriously and I understand what you're saying, but when I see stuff like this, it's so satirical. In a way that even movies couldn't have predicted. You know, idiocracy probably couldn't even have predicted just how stupid things would be. And also, not to be outdone is the fact that these are the people who talk about no one is above the law. And when they get caught doing something they're not supposed to do, they'll say that it's the Gestapo and it's the secret police and they're out to get them while committing crimes. Yeah, I'm caugh between apathy, exhaustion and annoyance.
Phil
Well, out like streaming crimes onto the Internet, you know, very proudly committing crimes. And then again, just like you said, we'll say, oh, you know, it's the Gestapo. And, and Trump's, Trump's Stasi are out picking up people and it's like, well, you're literally proud of the fact that you're committing crimes. And to be honest with you, when they do get arrested, they're proud of that too, because we do live in a civilized country where nothing significant is going to happen. So she's actually going to be able to use this, put it on her Instagram and it'll give her leftist bonafide and she will be able to be like, look at me. I actually went and did something.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, A lot of lefties, girl boss types are gonna watch this. She's gonna get a lot of likes and a lot of views and they're gonna all. Everyone's gonna do the same. They're all gonna follow the trend.
Brett Das
So the good people of Nashville are picking up the tab on her antidepressants in Merlot?
Phil
More than likely. Yeah.
AK Kamara
Oh, guaranteed they are in I like in a more serious tone. I do think that something has to be done when again, the level of someone that is in the know they are a lawmaker in Tennessee and they are willfully breaking with intention federal law. You have to throw the hammer on them. And yeah, you know what? They're going to get their badge that they're a freedom fighter. But I hope that they actually press the issue and charge her with the highest crime possible. And I would love to see her being purple Oct and being like, it wasn't worth it. I should have just served the people that elected me versus versus people that are here without permission. And let's be very clear about this, ICE has been going after specifically people that have been convicted of horrendous crimes. So when they're blocking, did you block a rapist from being picked up or someone that killed multiple people? Like, who was it? That you're blocking. And so it would be funny to go and look at the 196. I think that's what the number is reported and see which kind of people did they pick up? And then for her to be like, oh, these are the people that I didn't want to get taken off the streets of the city that I'm serving the people of.
Brett Das
But her party, she is virtue signaling to the revolutionaries who want that, who want her to prevent rapists from being incarcerated or removed, or the useful idiots who just think that everybody's here for a better life and don't understand that the people that are being deported right now are violent criminals.
Phil
Yeah, I mean, look, that was, that was in the first paragraph that the, the people that were being picked up by ICE, they were significant public safety threats. 196 of them. So you're talking about actual criminals. So, like, you know, hashtag, I saved a rapist.
AK Kamara
Exactly.
Phil
Good job, sweetheart. Let's, let's watch this video. Rep. Andy Ogle said, is aiding and abetting illegal aliens to evade law enforcement a crime? Secretary Noem says yes, I will be formally requesting that the Judiciary and Homeland Security committees investigate Mayor Freddie o' Connell and Nashville city officials for their repeated obstruction of ice.
AK Kamara
Instead of thanking you and your leadership and thanking the president, the mayor of Nashville criticized and attacked law enforcement verbally. He then instructed members of law enforcement to report any communication with federal authorities. He then directed the Police Community Oversight Board to direct citizens to file complaints against law enforcement if they cooperate with federal law enforcement. Considering we've seen a 400% increase against federal law enforcement, do these types of statements and actions by a municipal leader concern you?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yes, absolutely.
Phil
They perpetuate the violence against law enforcement officers.
AK Kamara
And what happens many times then is that our agents within the Department of Homeland Security go into situations with no backup, with no local response of people who know the communities, know the routes, the road, roads, or the needs to.
Phil
Emergency services that may be there.
AK Kamara
So it absolutely makes them much more vulnerable to a situation to which their lives could be in jeopardy. Yes, ma' am. And if a municipal leader is found to be aiding and abetting illegal immigrants to evade federal law enforcement, would that be a criminal act? Yes, I believe it would, sir. And if elected officials impede ICE or Homeland Security in doing their job and pursuing illegal immigrants, would that be a criminal act? I believe so, Madam Secretary. And Mr. Chairman, I will be asking the Committee of Homeland Security and Judiciary to be looking into the mayor of Nashville in any collusion or impeding of federal authorities and conducting their work in the city of Nashville.
Phil
I would also encourage this committee and.
AK Kamara
Judiciary to look at other leaders, municipal leaders across the country as they obstruct this administration, this Madam Secretary and her employees and doing their constitutional job, which is uphold the rule of law. Madam Secretary, I thank you and I yield back.
Phil
So I mean it would be nice to think that there's actually going to be some repercussions for this. But I mean what do we think? Do we think that this is actually going to produce fruit?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
It could be the very first time ever that I've been allowed to alive that the 80, 20 or the 70, 30 issue gets, that the American people want gets handled where it's 66% is wants them to be gone because they government doesn't do what people want. This might be the very first time maybe if they just do it. Crack down, arrest them, put them in jail, nobody cares. You break the law, you break the law.
Phil
Well, this would be nice. This is actually talking about city officials and, and going after the mayor.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, well, same thing. Same, same.
Phil
Well, I mean I don't know that the mayor actually was doing the obstruction.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Well, if they are, I'm saying.
AK Kamara
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a different issue. But to answer the question, I think that this administration will probably be the only one and maybe future. But that's a different conversation. But be the only one that would actually try and hold people accountable. I think that's this administration is all about that. If you look at what they've already done, the question is why don't we do more of it.
Phil
Yeah.
AK Kamara
Right now there's the cynic that says what's. Because the, you know, everyone in the government's all dirty, all politicians are dirty and it's all one big game and you're not in it. That's one way to look at it. The way that I actually look at it from a political standpoint is it's unpopular to go and arrest people if they can spin a narrative that you're attacking them for political purposes. Right. That doesn't really work well with the American people if they think that you are going after someone even if you have a stack of evidence. Evidence. The reality is it will seem like you're going after them for political purposes. But I think that we don't need to care about that as long as truth is on our side to a certain level. But there are trade offs because you can be the righteous warrior that has truth on your side and still Lose power politically. Thomas Soule talks about this all the time. Is that the reason why political leaders make actions that they do is because they don't have to stand up to the consequences as long as they're able to convince the people that this is good for them now. And, and so there is a part of me that does believe that this administration is actually doing it. They're doing the work. But there is a way that you have to assuage it. And I think that all of this, when you put it in its greater context, you go after the people that are dirt bag criminals that are here illegally. So you can set the framing of like, this is why we're going after them. And then you look at the polling and it shows that the American people still do support this deportation. And then you do the other little carrots out there that are like, hey, we just had our first, first, you know, plane ride of people that self deported. Yay. You guys see that when they were like out there, like pumping that up. So all of those things, I think are all part of it to be able to say that the American people want accountability. And I think in the case of this state rep, not necessarily the mayor, I don't know all the details behind the national mayor and what they've said or done, but the state rep, I think that they have enough of them admitting it that you should be able to arrest. And it's not going to be like, oh, you're just going after. Because she's a Democrat at. But that's. That to me is the way to look at it is the action doesn't happen if politically it can be very disadvantageous to us on the right.
Phil
Yeah. I mean, I think you're right. There, there is a lot of. I think I said this last night. You know, public opinion really does a lot to cover for whether or not a specific policy is actually legal or not. If you have, if you have the backing of the people, you. The government is absolutely able to do things that are technically illegal. If you don't have the backing of the people, even doing legal things is really, really, really hard.
Brett Das
The Patriot Act.
Phil
Yeah. I mean, there you go.
AK Kamara
Well, Tim talks about that. Right. Like he said it before numerous times. The law doesn't matter. It's about social enforcement.
Phil
Yeah.
AK Kamara
Is the society going to stand for it? If the answer is no, it doesn't matter how many laws you say are being broken. Does society accept it to be a thing or not? And so, but that's why I, I think ultimately the Reason why we don't see the type of arrest that all of us on the right want to see is because societally there are people that are just like, nope, that's gonna, that's a fascist move. And we have to convince enough people, man.
Brett Das
Well, and it's a lot of it is historically taking place in deep blue cities where they're going to get a lot of pushback anyways.
AK Kamara
Right.
Brett Das
The people that are voting for it are not the ones living in those cities. So you're going to come bunch of pushback the second you go in and try to do that. And it's going to be seen as a show of force and people are going to, they're not going to like it.
Phil
Yeah. I mean the localized effects of, of your local government and the, just the mindset of the local people, like if you have, if you have to, if you have policies. In New York, as much as we talk about, you know, we were just talking, 66% of Americans want to see deportations.
Brett Das
Well, who are those?
Phil
Try to round people up in New York City, like that's going to be, be tough because the local people that are localized in the area that you're actually carrying out the operation, they're going to be against it or they're likely to be against it and they're going to make it difficult. And then you end up with a situation where people are filming you and the, you know, the police and the people fighting and then it looks bad for the police and that's all kinds of bad press. So it's tough to do that.
Brett Das
It's another reason why the Democrats work so hard to have the media on their side for as long as they have. Right. Because like you said earlier, does truth even matter matter these days? A lot of times I would argue that it doesn't. Most practically speaking, it doesn't matter to a lot of people because the truth is whatever the video clip they see in front of them tells it, you know, tells them that it is very funny.
Phil
People hoax.
Brett Das
Yeah. Like the fact that you're still battling that years later. And there's the fact, look, a lot of people, when, when that one came to, to light for me, that was very eye opening early on for me. But there's a large swath of the population still where, and I think that's kind of a diagnosed phenomenon psychologically. Like when, when you're confronted with, you know, facts that disprove what you believe, people just tend to believe it even more.
AK Kamara
Yeah. Cognitive, cognitive distortion is very painful when Someone believes something to be a thing and then you shatter their worldview for something that they've believed for so long, it's physically painful for people. Like they've done all these studies on it.
Unknown Speaker
You mean cognitive dissonance?
AK Kamara
Cognitive dissonance, yeah. I said distortion. Yeah. So ultimately though, to your point, I think that when you're talking about does the truth matter? There is the game that has to be played. If we're just being realistic, being the person that's all idealistic, and you say, this is what I want to do, this is the right thing to do, that's great. But in a world where we have a democracy from an institutional standpoint, where people cast their vote for their elected officials, I know we're a constitutional republic, but we have democratic institutions. You have to be able to convince people enough. And I think if you look again, take a stand back and view everything that the Trump administration is doing, they're doing these issues that are 80, 20 issues, right? Or 60, 40 or 70, 30, and they're getting buy in from the American people and they're seeing like this, we know what the right thing is to do, but can we convince enough people that it's the right thing? And I think the administration so far has done a great job, but that's why they're doing the self deportation push. They're going after the war worse and they're defying these federal judges, which I believe they need to continue to do, so they can continue to do the work of the administration.
Brett Das
I have a question for you then. So you're talking 80, 20 issues. And I think 80, 20 issues are bolstered by the media coverage that they get because they're polarizing by nature. A lot of times they lead to discussion online. People go back and forth. Are we kind of past the days where the type of bread and butter issue for like a blue dog Democrat, which is like, you know this, you're regular every everyday issues are just no longer relevant because they're not ones that the media can push.
Phil
I don't think that they're not relevant, but I think that it's hard to get the coverage of them that people actually want because people respond to things that make them emotional. If you talk to someone without showing them like Donald Trump was this, or the, the Republicans did this, or the blah, blah, Donald, you know, Democrats did this. If you, if you don't something in front of them with a fiery headline, just say, hey, what are the things that matter to you? They'll talk about the what tend to be kitchen table issues? You in, in polls all the time, it's like the most important thing is the economy. The most important thing is the economy. Everybody believes that all the time. Consistently in polls, it's people say the economy is the most important because everybody has to be able to pay their bills and everybody has to be, be able to take care of their families. But the stuff that gets traction is not economic reports unless they're economic reports tied to Donald Trump. Is the monster Donald Trump screwing you out of money or the Democrats are screwing up this blah, blah, blah. And here's the economic report that shows it. Those economic reports will get traction because they managed to tie it to an emotion. But when you ask people in a, in a, a, a, you know, a normal manner, ask them in a poll or whatever, they're constantly going to tell you kitchen table issues are what's important to me. But they react emotionally to, to things that are not kitchen table issues.
AK Kamara
Yeah. I think the issue that you bring up, like are yellow dog or blue dog Democrats, do they still exist? The answer is yes at a local level. But because things have become so national, like it's crazy. So in Minnesota, you know, the way that our, our legislature is compromised, compromise. We are perfectly split in power in our state House we have 67 Democrats, 67 Republicans. Right. So if you look across the state, that means that we're, we're kind of close on a lot of issues. But when you actually see what the left has done, they've come together and they've decided that they're going to be this woke, nonsense, mass hysteria, anti human party that's going to say abortion up to nine months. Let's give criminal aliens health care benefits. Let's give criminal aliens free tuition. Let's give them driver's license, license when that's the issue that's going to override everything else. So I would argue that within the Democrat caucus in Minnesota, we call them dfl, that there are plenty of Democrats where if you got them in a room, separate, and you said, hey, where are you at this issue? They'd be like, I'm with you, but the cult's voting this way and I want to stay in power so I got to vote with the cult. So to answer your question, I think yes, they exist, but they are afraid because the cult has taken over the Democrats. And until they get rid of the cultiness, which good luck because now that they're entrenched and they're in power, it's going to be very Very brutal for them to separate themselves. They're going to try. I don't think that they functionally exist anymore because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if on 90 issues, right, they might be with us. It's the big issues. Abortion on demand, criminal aliens, funding everything regardless of how much income, taxing the rich. Like these are the things that the cult has decided. Black people are oppressed. Anti racism is, is good. If you don't align with the cult, oh, you know, boys can be girls and girls can be boys. Then you're not a Democrat. So it doesn't matter if all the other issues you actually would vote with Republicans.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
How does such a tiny, tiny, tiny viewing of life, like what are they like 4%, 10% of, of everything. How do they.
Phil
Probably more than four, but probably just throwing out numbers.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
How do they have such a huge grasp.
Phil
Because they're the ones that are activists so loud. Because of the ones that are active activists. They're the ones that are going to decide who's going to be in the primaries. So you, like, we were talking about this the other night, whoever. The Democrats have a real bad problem because they have to have someone that's extreme enough to win primaries. So that has to be able to appeal to the progressives and the leftists and then they have to be able to, to win a general election. And it's normal. It has historically been normal for, you know, politicians to have to kind of cater to the base election little bit and, and during primaries and to win the primary and then to slide to the center some to win your generals. But the Democrats are so far left and the far leftists are the one that have the ones that have control. So it's going to be really, really hard to find a Democrat that can actually satisfy the far leftists and then slide enough to the right to make your moderates and your, your centrist interests think, okay, this guy actually does have my needs in, in mind.
AK Kamara
Yeah, they're gonna beat you into submission. They're going to show up to your house, they're gonna do all of these crazy activists.
Phil
They threaten you.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
It's true.
AK Kamara
That's why they're able to do it. Man. If the right adopted the same tech, like honestly the same exact techniques and tactics, we'd be successful. But that's kind of antithetical to who we are. We're not going to show up and you know, say that we're going to shut you down when you disagree with us on something. Robust debate, debate about it.
Brett Das
You know, they also don't get the COVID from the media that the most extreme left also. But they have, they have Gavin Newsom. He's like, watch, I can destroy this country. Just like I destroyed California.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Well, like, I brought up Ro Khanna last week, and you and Tim shut me down. Because he's not extreme enough.
Phil
Well, I don't think that he's extreme enough. A lot of the, a lot of the situation with the left is like, look, the things that the people that are off on the far left believe do not align with the Republican reality. And they don't align with what most people think. Most people do not believe men can become women, that you just can't do that. You can't. Like. And there was a time when people that were Democrats would say, well, you know, maybe we can just say, well, you know, call them by the pronouns they want and then go ahead and, and, you know, we'll make sure that they can, they have somewhere to go to the bathroom and that'll be okay. We can figure it out. But the extremists on the left, the far left are like, no, you know, s. The D. Or you're a bigot.
AK Kamara
Like, you have.
Phil
If you're, if you're, if you're a man and you won't date a trans woman or, you know, trans woman, you're a bigot. So they, that's the mentality that the far left has, and that's the problem that the Democrats are dealing with. It's not that, it's not just that they're, they're far left on, you know, on issues. It's that they believe things that are unwanted, real. They believe things that normal people don't believe. So we're going to move on to this, this little clip here from Tim Bueret, Burette, Buret, Bucharet, or whatever Tim Burette he was, he had some things to say about the Kennedy assassination. So take it away, Tim.
AK Kamara
Hey, everybody. Tim Burett returning from Oversight Committee.
Phil
We were talking about the John F.
AK Kamara
Kennedy, President Kennedy's assassination in 1963. Just some incredible testimony from the attending.
Phil
Physician in the emergency room.
AK Kamara
And the.
Phil
He told us the way.
AK Kamara
The bullets entered where they came from and they came from two dadgum different directions and there were four bullets fired. It just, it was just incredible. Anyway, big cover up, of course. Will we get to the bottom of it? Probably not. The person you always got a patsy. And it's obviously Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy. He might have pulled the trigger.
Phil
Trigger on one of the bullets, but.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
They don't think on all three.
AK Kamara
And that would have been a bolt action, which is a man Laker carbine. It's an Italian carbine.
Phil
I got one somewhere.
AK Kamara
It's was written up in a magazine one time. It's the only gun that never won a war. Oswald could have walked into a Western.
Phil
Auto and bought an M1 with a.
AK Kamara
Scope for under 50 bucks. At that time, it's just literally a Western auto.
Phil
But he chose a mail order Italian car.
AK Kamara
The whole thing's just crazy. Anyway, we're digging into it. Thank you all for sending me here.
Brett Das
I think he might be my new favorite. Politics.
Phil
Tim's solid, bro. So. So is. Is the going theory now that one of the shooters was in the Israeli. Wait, wait.
Brett Das
Maybe they curved a bullet like in wanted.
Phil
Well, you know, I mean, if. If it's not. If it wasn't just a single shooter, maybe one of the shooters was Israeli. Right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I didn't know that was on the table.
Phil
Right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh, that's the.
Brett Das
Or the mob.
Phil
Well, one was the mob and one was.
Brett Das
So it was Lee Harvey Oswald, a guy in the mob, and then somebody from Israel.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Okay.
Phil
Oh, okay. So. Okay, so we're gonna. We're gonna go to this here clip, I guess. Oh, no, you don't. Do you want to go to it?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
No, it's an hour long.
Phil
Oh, no, never mind.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the overtime.
Phil
That guy government lied to us about the Kennedy assassination. Us. Com.
AK Kamara
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
I was pointing out where it says underneath there, it says the truth about JFK and rfk, the CIA, Mossad. It's like the first.
Phil
This is what I tell you. What I tell you.
Unknown Speaker
Number two, he gets brought up immediately.
AK Kamara
Listen, I. I love Congressman Burchette. I think if you watch him over the years, he says it like it is. That's probably why he keeps on getting ready reelected. A lot of the stuff with the ufo, UAP hearings that he was coming out and saying are again, amazing to watch. Some of me wonders, like, does he do it? Because in the caucus, because, like, the way that government all works, the Republicans have a caucus. They have a leadership structure, and they're like, go ahead, man. You just go out there and say what you want to say. And that's kind of what I think, because he's also made some claims like, do you remember when there was the fog? And everyone's like, oh, I can taste. You know, tastes metallic or it tastes whatever. He literally said that there were Chinese drones off the east coast that Were that had like motherships. That's what he went on.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
The mist happened.
AK Kamara
Yeah. When like was the mist. And then with the, with the drones as well. Remember all that was all happening?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, it was, it was.
AK Kamara
Yeah. But with the, with all the drones. All the New Jersey drones. Right, okay. And he literally said that there was a chime Chinese mothership that had like 20 mini drones in it. He made that statement. So you got to take it with a grain of salt, man. I don't know.
Brett Das
I hate politicians by default, but this guy's. He's all right. He's one of the good ones.
Phil
I mean I'm kind of. I'm kind of curious. I mean he said he's got. He's. He's talking about the rifle. He's like I got some one of them somewhere. Why would you lose a rifle, man?
Brett Das
Maybe he did it.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
He's got so many. I'm sure you know, he's from the woods.
Brett Das
He's also like, he's Hollywood coded as a Republican politician. Like every Hollywood depiction of a Republican is exactly this guy. He's got a Tibetan nanny. He's never paid a day in her life.
AK Kamara
Very specific.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Well, he's had a tough all names today. All the stories are just a bunch of tough names. Ah, you know, I'm just saying. Just not talking ish or anything. But it's fine.
Phil
It's fine.
Brett Das
Wait, so did. So okay, who did it then?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh yeah, yeah. Back to the story.
Phil
Look, man, apparently multiple shooters. So we can spread the blame around.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yes, okay, that's fair option.
AK Kamara
Everyone kind of like they drew straws. They're like who are we gonna like officially blame.
Phil
Yeah.
AK Kamara
You know, I am interested though to see like do we actually ever get an answer?
Phil
Well, I mean the, the. Look, the files came out and everybody that had an opinion read the files and their opinion was confirmed. All the different opinions, they read the files and they said see, I was. Was right. Well that actually happened.
Brett Das
Also anybody who's watched the X Files knows that the cigarette smoking man was actually the one who killed both JFK and Martin Luther.
Phil
We don't talk about cigarettes.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Please. Andrew here at work he has some kind of cool tech IT thing. You know what I mean? I don't anything about that, but he can look up the whole files all it's 14,000 crazy amount of. Of papers that he could do a search. We should ask him to. To look up, you know, two shooters. Yeah, he had like a special program for it. I mean I don't know much about it. I'm not it dude. I use a hammer.
Phil
But Andrew, if you are, if you're watching, he knows.
Brett Das
So he. So he knows who did it. Come on.
Phil
Search. Search the word Israel.
AK Kamara
Bring it.
Phil
Bring it to your.
AK Kamara
To your guy. Honestly, like I said, like with all of the release and all that, everyone has their own theory of all this subjective things. I just, just tell me me what actually happened and if you say that you don't and. Right. But. But who it was and what it was, I'm okay with it. It's happened so far, like so long ago. I'll be honest, I don't really care.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Agreed.
AK Kamara
I, I really don't. I just. I find it interesting to hear all the different theories. The only thing that I would care about would be if the CIA did it and then all of those people just got. Got away. I would care about that. But then again, I'd say, well, yeah, it's the CIA. They've been doing insane things for a long time.
Phil
They've been. No, they've been trying to do insane things. They have not been particularly successful. There are a few things that they got away with that are big, like big names. But the most, like the most common name that I've heard for, for CIA when it comes to people that actually work with CIA, like people in the military is clowns in. In action.
AK Kamara
Right.
Phil
And the best evidence that they really aren't this omnipotent, you know, can do whatever they want whenever they want organization is the fact that Castro lived so long. Sure, they went after him. They tried a boatload of different ways, clandestine ways. They tried the bear pigs. They tried all kinds of stuff. And Castro was just like, nope. And Castro was on an. I was stuck on an island 90 miles off of Florida. CIA, they've done some stuff. They did Northwoods, they, they've done a lot of scop operations. But when it comes to actual like guerilla stuff or like secretly murdering people, I don't think that they're all that successful. Like, they're, they're not batting a thousand at all. Like.
AK Kamara
Yeah, well, it's a psyop to the. Psyop to the sc.
Phil
Well, I mean they, they, they, they're successful when it comes to like fomenting displeasure in countries. They're, they're successful in, in, you know, getting money to people that don't like the current government and getting those people to fight the current government. They're successful. They were successful in giving money to.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
What, like propaganda wise?
Phil
Yeah, well, not just that I'm talking.
AK Kamara
Engineering, like social engineering is 100% something.
Phil
Not just that, but like the mujahideen. Right. So they got, they were. They were successful in getting Stinger missiles to the mujahideen in Afghanistan. Right. And they didn't get busted for it until. Or they, you know, they didn't get busted for, for it until after the Soviets were gone. Okay, so they were successful in that. But the, the idea of them doing a whole lot of assassinations, I don't think they're particularly successful. And I think the best evidence for that is, you know, the fact that.
Brett Das
Yeah, but what's Israel's track record on assassin?
Phil
Mossad. Now Mossad, they know how to, to, to blow dicks up.
Brett Das
Maybe if, if JFK had had his own iron dome, this would have never happened.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
The golden dome.
Brett Das
Golden Dom dome like we have. If USAID had helped, then it would have been some type of scop.
Phil
Yeah. So, I mean, look, the, the. There are, there are definitely clandestine organizations that are good at stuff like, you know, Green Berets actually are. The, the. They actually go in and teach militants how to actually fight. And Delta, like, they, they're door kickers and those guys are doing that job. But too many people think that CIA does everything right. Like, because they're so clandestine, they're just like, oh, CIA did this. And CIA, they do psyops mostly. And, and they don't do. There's not a whole lot of direct action guys. There's a couple guys or a handful, a small unit that's like the ground branch guys that actually do security. And sometimes they'll go with like the army guys to go get into gunfights and stuff like that. Like there was a CIA guy on the, on Neptune spear. Like, that was the raid to kill bin Laden. There was a CIA. There's at least one CIA guy that went in with them that was all kitted up and stuff. Stuff. But he wasn't with them. He was actually CIA, but he was, you know, he was there mostly to do TERP stuff and, and, and identify. Identify things.
AK Kamara
It sounds like what a CIA guy would say if he was the front man of a band.
Phil
I am not.
AK Kamara
Traveled all over the world multiple times. Phil.
Phil
No, not me. So we're going to jump to this story. Gen Z and millennial men in the US Are among the loneliest in the western world. Here. Here's why. Spoiler alert, they got it wrong from fortune. Well, young men in the U. S. Are among the loneliest in the western world. A new Gallup poll has found those between the ages of 15 and 34 reported feeling lonely more than their counterparts across 38 higher income Democrat countries, ahead of countries including France, Canada, Ireland and Spain, and surpassed in loneliness only by young men in Turkey. This demographic is also one of the loneliest of all in the US with 25% of men in this age group saying they felt lonely a lot of the previous day, significantly higher than the national average of 18. And the total for young women, also 18. That amounts to one in four men under 35 feeling lonely. And loneliness, which was declared a national epidemic by the former US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy in 2023, has been found to increase the risk of developing depression, anxiety, diabetes, heart disease, dementia and stroke. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only three of the countries in the poll, the U.S. iceland and Denmark, have a loneliness rate among young men that is higher than it is for other adults. In Iceland and Denmark, though, 15% of younger men reported daily loneliness, versus 10 and 9% respectively, of the rest of the population. The gap is wider in the US where 25% of young men are lonely as compared with 17% of all other adults. What do you guys think? Do you guys have an in, you know, an inclination as to why this is?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I would go with the social media there. Everything's. Everyone's away from each other more than they should be together. Back in the day where they used to. You have to go out and see people. Nowadays, they don't see people. You just see people online. You sit at home and you watch your vid movies, you watch, play your video games. You don't get out. And it's just probably really depressing. I don't know any young people like that age that are the. They don't get out. So I think, think it's. The media disconnects us. It doesn't connect us as much as we think it does.
Phil
Nope. It's Andrew Tate and porn.
AK Kamara
Yeah.
Phil
No, I, I'm just kidding.
AK Kamara
I think, I think you're on to something, that, that it is a lot of social isolation because we can jump on an app and we can feel like we're connected. But I don't think that that is a, a great actual analog for human interaction and connection. There's studies out there that talk about actually needing physical contact in touch. So I would just say to young men, go find yourself a lady. Problem is, is that the young ladies today are insane. I've been married for 20 years. You know, shout out to the shoopy. I'll be 21 years in July. And so I, I don't really know what that's like. But I will say that looking at different studies that have been done, that social media has a lot to do especially with men that are in this age demographic where you're looking at zoomers. Social media has been destroying people's brain. Brains. And, and I would say that when we're talking specifically about loneliness, you just got to find more groups that actually physically meet up and do physical things, whether it's sports, hiking, whatever it might be. But yeah, man, I mean it's, it's a real problem and we better figure it out because we're talking about the progenitors of our society, right? These are going to be the people that are going to be having kids going forward. If they're all lonely and they're not even hooking up. That population clip cliff is even more drastic than what we're looking at right now.
Brett Das
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's not just men and it's men and women. Look, this was primed. Jonathan Haidt wrote the book about not just coddling in the American mind, but.
AK Kamara
What was the other one, Anxious Generation.
Brett Das
Basically talking about how social media was primed to destroy young women first. Right. So it destroyed the self worth and the image of young women. Men have been destroyed by social media in their own way. And it's not something that can be fixed because at least not something can be fixed in the traditional sense because we are only going to become more and more reliant on technology as a society. And it's much in the same way that we have the discussion that having an argument about politics is very different in person as opposed to arguing with someone on the Internet, trying to court somebody of the opposite sex is also very different in person as it is on the Internet. In a lot of women talk about how men just, they won't appreciate approach them because most like up to a certain range, like a lot of young men, they've never approached a woman in person in their entire lives because they've read the stories about how when it happened, you know, when some guy comes up and approaches a woman and she, you know, she takes poorly to it and they get labeled a creep, something like that. Now those stories however, how common they are, I don't know. But a lot of times, just like everything we talk about with politics, that's the stuff that gets clicked, stuff that sells well for the people who write these articles. And a lot of These problems aren't going to be fixed by anything like that. Dating apps have like lifetime options where you can buy the dating. You can buy a lifetime.
AK Kamara
Really?
Brett Das
Yeah. Like, like imagine that the whole point of it is supposed to be that it gets you off the app if it goes more.
Phil
Isn't that more of a feature of hookup culture though?
Brett Das
Well, that's, but that's what I'm saying. That doesn't, that doesn't bode well for actual human connection if the whole point of it is to get married and have kids. Because all hookup culture is going to do is get you vapid one, you know, one time interactions that doesn't go anywhere, that doesn't help society. If you're really talking about making changes culture culturally, that's just the same thing that was happening at nightclubs but with none of the actual camaraderie that might come with going out with your friends at night.
AK Kamara
Yeah, like going back again. When you talk about Jonathan Haidt. I've, I've read every single book that he has. I think it's fascinating talking about moral foundations theory, but Anxious Generation is the most recent book that he wrote. And I, earlier today, quite literally, man, I was having this conversation with my younger brother because he has a nine month old baby, baby girl and he's talking about like, hey man, I don't want to have like any screen time. And I was telling him like these studies show like it's damaged our generation Alpha and, and also you know, Jen, the Zoomers, it's damaging them because we've moved from being a play based society to a phone based society and it's creating like little anxiety filled narcissists. It's horrifying and luckily certain states have already made moves to, to like get rid of it. But the one thing I would say if you got a kid under the age of 16, don't let them use social media. As difficult as that might be. It's destroying them and it's making them feel anxious and lonely.
Phil
The idea of schools putting screens in front of kids all the time now, which is, it's bad enough that you've got, you know, there are a lot of parents that are just like, well the, the screen can babysit them. You know, you put whatever on and that'll keep them busy. But nowadays, you know, kids, as soon as they go to, to school, they're doing things on screens and stuff. And like I'm, I'm not doing that with my kid. Like I'm your kid. I'm gonna have my first in October and, and I'm not putting screens in that kid's hand and I'm not sending them to school because I don't want them, I don't want their, their face to be shoved in a screen. You know, that's, that's, that's terrible for a child. And I said, I said, said something about that on the Internet today about like, you know, I was, I said this is in a reply to someone like not even like posting on my own, but in a reply to someone. I was just like, yeah, I'm, I'm not going to, you know, we're going to homeschool. And there were a lot of people like that were like, oh, your kid's going to have all these problems. Your kids be awkward. I'm like, if I keep the screens out of my kids hands and they don't go to school where they are interacting with all the crazy people, all the kids that are, you know, that have been basically raised by a screen, what makes you think that my kids are going to be the ones that have the, the problem, you know?
AK Kamara
Yeah, because again, social media, the soc, like honestly, the suicidal ideations that have increased for both men, for males and females is through the roof. And I would just say if someone's like, oh, like how, why would you want to social, not socialize your kid and, and send them to homeschool? There's so many different homeschool alternatives that exist to this day. I understand not everyone can do the homeschool thing and I get it, it's like not shade at you, but if you, you can, you should. And there are like pods that exist in homeschool networks of the, the different parents. They'll even rotate through and say like you take the kids for this to go and do this activity and things like that. It's growing all across the nation. But I would just say the pushback is, yeah, I might homeschool my kid, but I'm able to make sure that they're not using social media so they're not sitting there looking depressed, having depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation. I saved their life. I think that that's a fair trade off. Maybe they're a little bit socially awkward, but who isn't these days?
Brett Das
Well, also look, it's not just good advice for kids. Like as an adult, my fiance definitely has to remind me to like take my eyes off the phone from time to time as I tend to, to be, whether it's because of work, which is my excuse most of the time that I'm working and things like that. You have to also disconnect from your phone and reengage in the world. And a lot of times for us, it's like, no phone at dinner. Something like that. That, you know, it seems weird to have to say it, but sometimes you have to force yourself away because the technology is just so easy to get stuck in that you have to remind yourself that you need to reconnect with the people around you. And, like, for me personally, the tools you learn in sobriety have worked with me in this, which is partly, like, I can tell myself. I can feel when I'm getting more anxious or more annoyed because I'm on my phone more. And you have to be able to notice that, catch it, and then disengage from what you're doing. Go outside. For me, it's go skating. For other people, it's go workout run, whatever. But that technology isn't just dangerous to kids. It's just as dangerous to people our age or, like you said, the people in their mid-20s who aren't able to find a spouse or find anyone because they feel so isolated.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I know you got to get the super chats, but just on Brett's point right there, gentlemen, I got. I get notifications monthly. Like, hey, you've been on your phone this much.
Phil
This.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
And I got. Recently, it was like, I've been on the phone less than the previous month. And it was like a dopamine hit. Because I was like, yeah, let's go. I'm not on my phone as much as I was.
Brett Das
Paradoxical.
AK Kamara
I know.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I mean, I'll take it. So I'm hoping for next month. I want next month to be less and less and less.
AK Kamara
And if not, then you will fall into a very deep depression.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah.
Brett Das
And then, yeah, it's a corresponding dopamine hit. I'll take higher for.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, someday it'll be zero.
Phil
Oh, yep.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Well, that's impossible. Never mind.
AK Kamara
But, well, when you have your 0% won't even track that because you'll always be connected with another me.
Phil
And me and my girlfriend are talking about, like, when. When the baby comes, like, phones just stay, like, somewhere else and possibly, like, I'll have a computer, and I'll use the computer, but having the phone on you all the time is going to just teach the kid that, you know, this is what you're supposed to do. You know, we'll have. We'll have tv, but I don't want. You know, I don't want, like, Misfortune, Rachel, raising my kid, you know, I don't want, I don't want the, the, the standard TV shows that kids watch to, to be. Yeah, I don't like, I, I want my kid to like, listen to people talking normal. And if you look back the way that children used to talk, like when they used to learn how to speak, it wasn't, you know, it was like Mr. Rogers would speak slowly, but it wasn't like weird. No noises. If you listen to like, the kids shows nowadays, they're. Some of them don't even make noise. Like, don't even speak. Like, the Teletubbies never talk.
AK Kamara
Yeah.
Phil
You know, and I know that they're not new nowadays, and it's probably, there's probably, you know, more, more modern stuff that kids watch, but they're, they don't actually speak. And I'm like, that's the reason why kid, like a lot of kids don't speak well now and, and they, they can't articulate themselves is because they don't hear. Hear adults articulating properly. They get baby talk. They hear shows that have baby talk or don't actually have words, and that's their entertainment, and it affects the way that they learn. Kids need to hear normal conversation. And I know that this may sound crazy, but I'm going to put on like the normal stuff that I watch, which is a lot of podcasts and a lot of news and stuff like that, and my kid's going to hear a lot of that. I don't know. I don't, I don't know what it's gonna actually be like when the kids around, you know, but like, I tend, I tend to have, you know, stuff going all the time, and I'm not gonna put on just something for the kid to stare at, especially when the kid's like, you know, really small, you know.
AK Kamara
Yeah. And I think that there's different phases because all that's good at, you know, very, very young age. But the, the key is that Jonathan Height talks about is that you got to teach your kid how to go and play and be a kid, like, so they can actually like, problem solve. Solve. The reason why there's so much depression anxiety is because you can block people, you can gang up on them online, and you actually don't have to solve any problems. It just, it shuts down your ability to actually solve any type of group dynamics, which causes more anxiety because we're social creatures. So if you no longer have the ability to have the tools available to solve problems by interacting with other people, you will fold inwards and you'll be like, wow, this really sucks. I'm. I isolated. And so, yeah, I mean, everything that you said, Phil, I think there's actually empirical evidence to show that that's the way you should do it. And then the key to all of that is that when they get to the age where they can play with other children, make sure that they're doing that and they're not just like playing online, that they're physically going and playing and problem solving together as children and they're going to learn the social dynamics and that's what will actually allow them to have proper brain development and group dynamics.
Brett Das
Have you seen the videos where a parent turns on, on Coco Melon and the kid hears it from the other room and starts running? Pavlovian response, bro.
AK Kamara
It's like baby brain crack.
Phil
That's what it is, dude, I don't want that.
Brett Das
Phil's gonna turn on Lex Friedman for the kid.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I was gonna put the kid to sleep like that.
Phil
Yeah, the kid will sleep, sleep right through it, you know. All right, so we're gonna go to super chat. So smash the like button, share the show with all your friends and stuff. Stuff. And we are going to find out what kind of nuggets the chat has left for us today. Let's see here. Whoa, that's real big. There you go. Let's see bright results. Media says give it up for President Trump calling out the president of South Africa to his face. It was really interesting to see, see, you know, Donald Trump not only, you know, contradict him, but have the, the, that video put together for when he arrived too, because they knew what was coming. You don't see that kind of, that kind of behavior from a president very often. And it is actually nice to see.
AK Kamara
Well, before we, before we started the show, we watched the clip of him in the White House. It's like a six minute clip. And it's funny because he even asks him, he's like, so what do you think? And then the president's like, you know, you'll find out from, you know, having people here, people that are in my cabinet. And then President Trump's like, well, actually. And you can see Elon in the back looking over his shoulder. We got some video to play for you. And then the President of South Africa, his face is just like, oh, man, I am effed. And I love that about Trump because he's like, hey, I'm going to give you a chance. If he would have Came out and said, like, hey, we got some real issues. But he knew he probably wasn't. So he had everything queued up. And that's just a boss move, man. Trump's the man.
Brett Das
Has this guy never seen a police procedural? They always come in with the TV and they're like, actually, we have evidence right here.
Phil
Eric. Erica's America says y' all. Pour one out tonight for our rooster. Not so mean Gene. He protected his girls until the end. He loved me, his favorite tender, and kept all the hens in line. He was the best boy. R.I.P.
Brett Das
Jean.
Phil
Condolences.
AK Kamara
R.I.P.
Phil
Yeah, R.I.P. condolences. Erica's America. Let's see. Jacob Jones says Kent State is refusing to remove a mural on campus of Trump's head on a pike because of free speech. Well, that. That seems like a bad idea.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Is that calling for violence? Is.
Phil
I don't know if it's calling for violence. It's definitely suppression, right? Yeah. I mean, look, look, the fact of the matter is, if it was anyone other than Donald Trump, there would be all kinds of outcomes. Outrage. True. So, I mean, I don't know. I don't know if that, if, if there's going to be anything done of it, but I think that it's obvious that if, you know, if it was any other politician or definitely any politician on the left, politicians on the right, or they would probably make the exception because that's just generally because we live in a leftist society, even though people don't realize it.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
If you're going to Kent State right now and you're watching the show, show right next to that mural, go ahead and do one of your favorite leftist politician and see how that works.
Brett Das
Yeah, do them right next to each other.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's what I mean.
Brett Das
Right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Right next to.
AK Kamara
Literally, this is art. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm not a free speech absolutist by any stretch of the imagination. I think a bunch of speech should be censored, like porn and stuff like that. But if someone wants to not specifically call out a threat that says, like, oh, I want this to be done to President Trump, I'm kind of like, it's stupid if it's. As long as it's not, you know, federal dollars going to it or anything like that. And I guess, like, stupid college kids make weird things imitating the president's death, I guess. I mean, I think they should be ostracized and shamed. I think that's pretty powerful. People should say, like, what is wrong with you? When you apply to a job? It's like, oh, you're the guy that, like, fantasizes about killing the president. Like, you're a weirdo. You shouldn't work here.
Phil
Fed shouldn't give them any money.
AK Kamara
You know, that's some weird stuff, man. If. If you're like, oh, what can I do? Oh, I'm gonna draw, you know, a grotesque sculpture of. Of the president being killed or whatever. You're like, bro, you got some issues, man.
Phil
Most think you should work here. Most of your colleges. Most of your colleges get federal funding. Yeah. So, you know, if. If they're getting federal money and they're allowing that kind of speech, maybe they shouldn't get federal funding. You know, I'm for.
AK Kamara
Man pull.
Phil
Maybe there's no law. Law that. That is being passed against the speech, but there's no reason why the feds have to give them money either. You know, a lot of things that the federal government funds come with strings attached, and maybe that's. That should be some of the strings.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I like that play.
Phil
Greg Duvier says, remove dictator walls. He has destroyed my former state. One of the many reasons why I will never move back.
AK Kamara
Yeah, Timo sucks. He's terrible. He lies. He is actually one of the people that I dislike the most in American politics. And the reason why is because he will lie and create a version of himself to keep power in any way, shape, or form. You go back and you look at all the elections that he has won, and he's been very successful. Him losing on the ticket with Kamala Harris is the first political loss that he has suffered, and it's because he lies all the time, and he gets away with, like, I'm this affable kid guy. The truth of the matter is Tim Walls will do whatever it takes to stay in power. You cannot trust what he believes. Because I actually don't know. I. I think he's. I think he's a leftist. He loved Mao back in, like, his college days when he was touring all over China. But he's a terrible human being, and the only way that he will lose power will be if the American people, and specifically the people in Minnesota real. Realize that he is a liar.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I like him.
AK Kamara
That's the only way that. That I know you like it because you want him to run for president.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So he knows how to talk to me. He's one of the few politicians who knows how to talk to me. As a white guy.
AK Kamara
As a white guy with his jazz fingers.
Phil
Jacob Holly says our congresswoman Tammy Baldwin is holding a town hall, and I Su not. She was complaining about no tax on tips bill and was telling her constituents how a smaller paycheck is actually better for workers. For workers. Workers. Corporatists. Is Tammy Baldwin a conservative or a Republican?
AK Kamara
Oh, no, she's a Democrat.
Phil
Democrat?
AK Kamara
Yeah, she's a senator. She. She just won re election in Wisconsin. Eric Hoff D ran against her.
Phil
It doesn't shock me that a Democrat wants to tax your tips.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Isn't that Timmy Buckworth, the lady in the wheelchair, or.
AK Kamara
No, no, no, that's different. Other.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Okay, There's a couple tammies out there, Okay.
AK Kamara
A few tammies and they all suck. Sorry. If you're a Tammy on the right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
It's my mom's name, bro.
AK Kamara
Oh, man.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Sorry, mom.
AK Kamara
Mad disrespect.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, she's dead now, so.
AK Kamara
But thanks, Rip man. My mom too.
Phil
Rip back. Let's see. Concrete Haiti says. With all these countries refusing to take their criminals, I can't help but think about certain former world leaders who had a real solution to that problem. Like Pinochet.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's Pinochet.
Phil
That, that. That wasn't a solution.
AK Kamara
No, I mean it was a type of solution. Not one that people that want human.
Phil
That wasn't even. That wasn't even like the. Like. That's a totally different context. So. I don't know.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
A lot of helicopters. Sorry, bro.
Brett Das
You can really blame Pinochet for making sure that Pedro Pascal ended up an American citizen. And now every time you have to see him in a movie, that's. That's his fault.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Like every movie. Yeah, every major movie.
Phil
Pinochet's helicopter tour says in a state like Massachusetts, I believe every penny stolen from taxpayers and spent on illegal should be taken. Taken out in property. Destruction of homes and property of prominent Democrats. Man, you people are just vicious. Tonight I disavow Yoshi's OG too, man.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
He's been here for a minute.
Phil
Disavow. I'm gonna get away from the rumble rants because you guys are just wiling over there.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh, that's what.
Brett Das
Okay, makes sense.
Phil
Kane. Abel says we are not going to war with South Africa. We are letting asylum seekers into our country. Also, it is in America's interest to bring farmers to the USA that know how to farm. I don't know that we were discussing going to war with. With South Africa. I think that we're not. I. I agree with you. We're not going to war with South Africa. Yeah, I don't see a reason to go to war with South Africa. Yeah, they don't actually threaten the United States.
Brett Das
So imagine how terrifying that would be if you're the President of South Africa. And Trump turns, he goes, look, we don't want to go to war with you.
AK Kamara
Yeah, well, that was all the table. Yeah, see, I'm from, I was raised in Devil's Lake, North Dakota. And so we actually had a lot of South African migrant farmers like to become. And they would help during the harvest season and they go back and some of them stayed and like, like you'll run into a lot of them in, in North Dakota. So listen, I, I'm still as an America first guy, I want Americans to have jobs. I don't believe in just trying to bring in people to fill in the gaps. But if we do bring people and they are asylum seekers, and I do think that the South Africans do fall under this, the Africa or however you pronounce it, I'm cool with it. But as long as we are like, let's have some bounds and some limitations, we got to make sure that Americans are able to work. As long as we can do that, then yeah, man, we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, bro.
Phil
Danny Archerson says, just an FYI, white South African soldiers were hired as mercenaries in Sierra Leone to get rid of the communists. Imagine what would have happened if they decided what was going on in Sierra Leone wasn't in their interest. Look, man, to be flat out honest with you, I'm not totally, I'm not very well versed on what happened in Sierra Leone or the politics of Sierra Leone, but I like the idea of not having communists.
Unknown Speaker
So, yeah, it happened as well in Angola. And a lot of my, my family was involved in that. A lot of my family friends were involved in Angola, which is just basically Cuba and communists taking over another country in Africa. Exactly like you were saying, AKA the same thing. And they were basically hired as mercenaries by Sierra Leone to go up there and fight commies again, which is something that we've done for a long time. In the 90s because of apartheid. It's apartade again, not apartheid partade. They didn't want to support us, so we built a lot of stuff. We built the, the mrap, which is, became like the de facto vehicle for Afghanistan for IEDs, because America wouldn't help us build stuff, they wouldn't give us any of their tech. So South Africans built a lot of our own stuff. But yeah, that's, that's true. I'm surprised. Danny O clp I don't know what, what, what is clp. It's the money he's gave here. But yeah, donkey on.
Phil
Thanks, man.
AK Kamara
Sweet.
Phil
Remember the quantum strange quark says, remember when the Bosnian genocide took place in 92 to 95 and the officials kept denying it? Same energy here, deny, denied. That's fairly standard when it comes to a government targeting some of its, its people. I mean, I don't, I'm pretty sure that China denies that there's any kind of abuse of uyghurs.
AK Kamara
Oh yeah, 100%. Like to this day they're like, oh, you know, we're helping assimilate them into Chinese culture because they've got these weird beliefs being Uyghurs. But yeah, I mean, but for the United States. Was that what the super chat was about? Or is it about South Africa denying or about the United States denying it?
Phil
Bosnia during the 90s?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh, and all those guys.
AK Kamara
Yeah, but yeah, that's what I'm wondering though, is this, are they saying that United States officials denied it and that's happened.
Phil
He says, remember when the Bosnian genocide took place in 92 to 95 and the officials kept denying it? Same energy here. And he's referring to the South African government. Denying, denying, denying. So. Or that's, that's, that's how I understood it.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I went there in 98 in the Marine Corps and it was just crazy. There was no windows anywhere. All the buildings were. I was in Kosovo. Everything's blown up. It was just, it was a weird place and everyone had a satellite dish on their roof. It was weird. But they had no windows and it was freaking, freaking cold out. It's just crazy time.
Phil
Ian Kenny says Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Do you still watch ABL? You should get him on the show for an episode.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I, I haven't watched him in a minute. Man, I love abl. I'm a big fan of Anthony. Brian Logan, by the way. That's his name. He's on YouTube. I used to watch him and rock out on Saturday nights in the chat. So yeah, I think he's a great recommendation. He's definitely America dude. He's, he's part of Brexit for America or black set, I guess with Kenneth Owens in them. Uh, yeah, absolutely is solid.
Phil
I agree. Lisa, if you're listening, send her a message in slack.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I will.
Phil
Isaac Vanderbilt says all of my blue collar job places have been filled with non English speaking visa workers. Removing the illegals is not enough. They're destroying unions. Look man, I think that anybody that hires an illegal immigrant, like they should lose their business if it's if, if, if it's found that they intentionally hire illegals. And honestly, if any unions allow illegals in, the union should be disbanded. Any, in my opinion. Like, I'm not a fan of unions at all.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
What I mean, I feel like that'd be impossible.
Phil
Why?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
To disband. I don't know. Unions are super strong no matter what they are.
Phil
I mean, unions are definitely have a lot of influence in D.C. because they're, you know, just. They're corrupt machines. But yeah, yeah, but yeah, like, look, the, the point that, the point is if you are breaking, you know, immigration law, there has to be reason. There has to be significant ramifications for it. And that's part one and part two is if illegal immigrants can't get work because they won't be hired by a, a business or they can't get anything, unions, those kind of things, Any kind of obstacles that we can erect to prevent illegal immigrants from finding work is also a deterrent for more illegals to come here.
AK Kamara
Yeah, and I think specifically the, the super chat was about visas that were handed out to non English speaking because he said, like, going after legals isn't enough. Okay. Now I do agree that when we look at taking people into this country, we should have criteria that make sense, right? Like highly skilled. If we're looking at, you know, labor jobs, jobs for the specific purpose of like, oh, you know, we just want to have someone that will come here to fill the grunt work. I still think that there's a lot of Americans. I think that it's been debunked a bunch of times. Even though it's like the conventional wisdom, you know, Americans won't do these jobs. It's like 100% they will do these jobs and they'll do a lot of. It's just that ultimately it's not marketed that way. And the truth of the matter is is that the majority of these visas that are given out are given out on, you know, temporary basis, which is a problem with this mass asylees that were being assigned under the Biden administration when they're like, yep, all the Venezuelans get temporary work visas. Like, they shouldn't have been given A, the temporary status and B, should not have been given those temporary visas. And I think that it's a worthwhile discussion about how many we let in. I think all of that should be on the table. But to your point, Phil. Yeah, E verify, man. We've had it on the boat books forever. We just need to start enforcing that. Getting those People that are hiring illegals, they need to be punished too, man. Like yes, go after the criminal aliens, but any of the institutions that are propping them up, go after them as well.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
AK no American that I know of is going to be going in Southern California and Oxnard, Oxnard, Ventura County, Oxnard area. They're going to be out there and picking strawberries 12 hours a day. I cannot imagine an American doing that.
AK Kamara
And here's what I'll say say is that if you set a standard where no American like you're like, yeah, no Americans are going to do it. Well, if you want to have a job and let's say that there's minimum work requirements, you're going to take a job. So like this is one of the things that is being discussed right now, having work requirements for able bodied adults. Right?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
If they get health insurance, they might do it.
AK Kamara
Right. But that's my point. So the problem is, is that people will have this idea like, oh, I would never do that job. Listen man, if you build an infrastructure and, and more specifically a culture around it, people will do it. In my, in my hometown, Dell's Lake, North Dakota, there are people that are working at jobs that are making 16, 17, $18 an hour, but the cost of living in rural North Dakota is significantly lower and they're able to live a decent life. So there's plenty of jobs like that that exist. But I agree that it's going to take. There's a curve like right now, today, could you get a bunch of people there? Probably not. But if you're like, hey, this is the truth, we need to have people here. So we have to incentivize and grow infrastructure around it. If you're a company that grows strawberries and you want to attract people to pick your strawberries, you got to do some things to incentivize them to come and do it. But I think that they eventually would do it. It's just you have to create a incentive and a structure for them.
Unknown Speaker
There's no incentive as well to like because strawberries and fruit like that are really difficult to like because this is why they don't have like mechanized people often ask me like, why aren't there mechanized systems for it? Strawberries bruise really easily. I don't, I wouldn't grow, I didn't grow strawberries in my life. But they bruise easily. That's why they have hand pickers for anything that's handpicked usually. But the problem is there's no incentive for people to go and make A robotic solution to this, to make a mechanized solution for this. And, you know, you know, there's a cool question about whether that's taking away labor for people. Trusting my family isn't farming. I understand the whole issue with mechanizing farming, but in this specific instance where it's really labor intensive, there's no pressure to like, modernize it in any way at all. And that can be so easily done is picking str. I mean, come on, like, we can mechanize crazy stuff and we can't do strawberries. The only people that'll tell you that is people that want to pay really cheap labor and want this to rain the same and have their big plantation and want to make sure they keep all this free legal labor. Those are people that will tell you, oh, we, we can't mechan. Oh, we can't do this. It's just, it's just the same crap we've heard a thousand times over with all the robber barons from, you know, 100 years ago.
Phil
So druish as Af of Christendom says Brett and Phil cast my favorite dudes for de Gongo. Yes, There is a FEMO genocide in the Gongo, and we need to raise our awareness where we're going to ship.
Brett Das
All of the illegal immigrants who committed.
Phil
Crimes so they can commit crimes in the Gongo. I thought we were trying to save the.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Save the Gongo.
Brett Das
Or we'll, we'll. We'll have an open air prison out there.
Phil
There you go.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
They're going to be picking strawberries.
Brett Das
Exactly.
Phil
Picking strawberries in the Gango. All right, perfect. Dylan Brown says feminism is destroying men's confidence. You can, you can ask to buy a woman a drink without being called a creep. I think he's meant you can't ask to buy a woman a drink without being called a creep. Then when get hurt bad guys. Well, then women get. Then when women get hurt by bad guys. I'm not sure if that was supposed to go longer or whatever, but yeah, I mean, look, there is a degree of truth to that. Like the, the cost of a man asking a woman out is significantly higher. Now, women will, you know, women could not will, but could, you know, do more than just say no and hurt you, bruise your feelings. Like, they could say, oh, he was, was. He was. He was creepy, he was weird. You know, they might put it on the Internet, blah, blah, blah. So it is. But still, like, fortune favors the brave, right? Like, you do have to, you know, put yourself out there in pretty much every context if you want to be successful, whether it be making music that people want to check out, you have to put music out there and risk people telling you, actually guarantee that people are going to tell you it's bad because the first stuff that you put out isn't going to be great. So yeah, you know, you, you do have to, you do have to, to take that kind of risk. But we're going to wrap it up. So why don't you smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, head on over to Timcast.com and join the Discord. If you join the Discord, that's where you can get access to the after show and you can call in from the Discord so you can meet like minded people. We also want you to join Rumble and you can watch the uncensored after show. And on the uncensored after show tonight we are going to be talking about a New York Post piece that says the headline is Biden officials knew about potential COVID 19 vaccine risks and took steps to downplay them. Scathing Senate report. Now we can't talk about this because YouTube is still very sensitive about these things. But we're going to get into it on the after show. So if you join, become a member on the Rumble on Rumble. Join Rumble. You can watch the after show but that's going to wrap it up for us. Ak, do you have anything you want to shout out?
AK Kamara
Yeah, follow me on X real AK Camara over on the Chinese spyware app known as TikTok at AK Camara want to shout out the fall of Minneapolis. This was a amazing documentary. For those of you that haven't watched it, there's been a lot of news recently that there's a potentiality reality that President Trump could pardon Derek Chauvin and the other officers involved. So go and watch that movie. Also want to give a shout out to Hotep Jesus for even getting me connected with people. And shout out to all of you in this room because you know this has been a fantastic time. I've been a fan of the show. Like quite literally I'm in the Discord and everything like that. I'm just not super active and this is fantastic man. I loved it. So yeah, shout out to all of you.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I had a blast too with you. Here, here sir. Always a good time. Always a good time yourself when I meet you, these two gentlemen and search push pressing them buttons. My name is Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Follow me anywhere in the world under Raymond G. Stanley Jr. I have planted trees like I told you great men do things like that. Brett.
Brett Das
Guys, if you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and on Twix at Brett Das on both of those platforms. But what you should do is watch Pop Culture Crisis. We are live Monday through Friday, 3pm Eastern Standard Time, noon Pacific. YouTube @Rumble. See you there.
Phil
I am Fill It Remains on Twix. I'm Fill It Remains official on Instagram. Today my good friend Nick Nocturnal released a song that I performed with him. The song is called Scarlet. You can check it out on on the whole Internet. His name is Nick Nocturnal. You can search Spotify and I think it comes up when you search all that remains. But yeah, Nick Nocturnal, the song is called Scarlet. Go check that out. You can check out my bands and you record called Antifragile on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, the whole nine. Don't forget the left lane is for crime and stick around for that after show. We will see you tomorrow. Marketing is hard, but I'll tell you a little secret. It doesn't have to be. Let me point something out. You're listening to a podcast right now and it's great. You love the host.
Brett Das
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Phil
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Brett Das
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Timcast IRL Podcast Summary
Episode: Trump SLAMS South African Pres. For DENYING "White Genocide," Corp Press CRIES AMBUSH w/ AK Kamara
Release Date: May 22, 2025
Host: Timcast Media (Tim Pool)
Guests: AK Kamara, Raymond G. Stanley Jr., Brett Das
In this episode of Timcast IRL, host Tim Pool engages in a robust discussion with guests AK Kamara, Raymond G. Stanley Jr., and Brett Das. The primary focus revolves around former President Donald Trump's confrontation with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa over the contentious issue of "white genocide." The conversation delves into political persecution, immigration policies, media portrayal, and the societal impacts on younger generations.
Timestamp: [04:30] – [14:00]
Overview: Former President Donald Trump hosted South African President Cyril Ramaphosa in the Oval Office, where he presented evidence alleging the persecution and killing of white South Africans. Trump showcased a video featuring violent political chants and burial sites of white farmers, prompting CNN to criticize the meeting as an “ambush.”
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Timestamp: [09:00] – [17:37]
Overview: The panelists explore whether the situation in South Africa constitutes genocide or political persecution. They examine the motivations behind Trump's actions and the broader implications of using loaded terms in political rhetoric.
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Timestamp: [22:33] – [35:35]
Overview: A federal judge has prevented the Trump administration from deporting criminal illegal immigrants to third countries like South Sudan. Despite this, the administration proceeds with deportations, raising questions about legal boundaries and humanitarian implications.
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Timestamp: [35:58] – [39:57]
Overview: Anthony Emanuel Labrador Sierra, a 24-year-old from Venezuela, was arrested in Perrysburg, Ohio, for fraudulently enrolling in high school as a 16-year-old using fake documents. This case underscores concerns about the integrity of the asylum and immigration system.
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Timestamp: [53:00] – [66:08]
Overview: Democratic Tennessee State Representative Afton Ben faced backlash after posting a video of herself following and obstructing ICE agents during an immigration enforcement operation. The episode highlights the tension between local officials and federal immigration policies.
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Timestamp: [66:08] – [85:11]
Overview: The discussion shifts to the role of media in shaping public perception of immigration and political issues. The guests express frustration with how media outlets prioritize sensationalism over factual reporting, impacting policy-making and societal attitudes.
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Timestamp: [80:22] – [109:00]
Overview: A segment features discussions on new testimonies and conspiracy theories regarding President John F. Kennedy's assassination. The guests express skepticism about official accounts and entertain alternative theories involving multiple shooters and foreign involvement.
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Timestamp: [89:00] – [102:43]
Overview: The podcast addresses a Gallup poll indicating that young men in the U.S. (ages 15-34) experience higher rates of loneliness compared to their counterparts in other high-income democracies. The guests discuss potential causes and societal implications.
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Timestamp: [109:00] – [123:30]
Overview: Listeners (Super Chats) contribute to the discussion with comments on various topics, including historical genocides, local politics, and the impact of immigration policies. The hosts and guests respond with their perspectives, reinforcing the episode's central themes.
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Timestamp: [123:30] – [126:16]
Overview: As the episode winds down, the hosts promote upcoming topics and encourage audience engagement through various platforms like Discord and Rumble. They tease future discussions on sensitive issues such as COVID-19 vaccine risks and legislative actions.
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This episode of Timcast IRL provides a comprehensive analysis of the intersection between politics, media, and societal issues. From Trump's controversial meeting with South Africa's president to the complexities of immigration enforcement and the mental health challenges facing young men, the discussion offers a platform for critical examination and debate. The inclusion of guest perspectives and audience interactions enriches the conversation, making it a valuable resource for listeners seeking uncensored and independent analysis of current events.