Trump Survives THIRD ASSASSINATION Attempt, Suspect CHARGED Ft. Blair White & Adam Weiss

Summary

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Timcast IRL — "Trump Survives THIRD ASSASSINATION Attempt, Suspect CHARGED"

Date: April 28, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Guests: Blair White, Adam Weiss, Tate Brown, Ian, Carter

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Episode Overview

This episode addresses the third alleged assassination attempt on Donald Trump, focusing on the incident at the White House Correspondents Dinner, the atmosphere of increasing political violence and conspiracy culture, responses from the left and right, shifting norms in security and media, and the proliferation of both legitimate concern and wild theories—including claims that Trump himself is a time traveler. The panel, including firsthand witnesses Blair White and Adam Weiss, unpacks the ground reality, media response, online narratives, and the ongoing breakdown of trust across American institutions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breakdown of the Trump Assassination Attempt

• Incident Recap ([03:35], [08:26])
  • Cole Thomas Allen, armed with multiple weapons, charged the White House Correspondents Dinner.
  • Security footage revealed a rapid breach attempt, but Allen was subdued before reaching Trump or key officials.
  • Allen's "manifesto" listed Trump and administration officials as targets, sparing just "Mr. Patel" for unclear reasons.

"He was carrying a semiautomatic handgun, a pump action shotgun and three knives as he charged past a security checkpoint... Strangely, for some reason, he said he would not kill Mr. Patel."
— Tim Pool [08:26]

• On-the-Ground Security Concerns ([11:30])
  • Blair White and Adam Weiss, who attended the event, described lax security in pre-parties, detailing an absence of metal detectors or ID checks at multiple entry points.
  • Despite the chaos, they noted the assailant never made it into the central ballroom and couldn’t get near Trump.

"The lobby was a free for all...we go down and that's where he ran in the first level down and that's where you see him running in. Because there's an entrance there... if that guy really knew what he's doing, he wanted to hurt people. They never check for guns, they never check for weapons."
— Adam Weiss [11:57]

2. Culture of Violence & Blame

• Contested Narratives ([13:58], [21:22], [24:07])
  • Some online leftists immediately claimed the attempt was staged; others blamed right-wing violence.
  • The panelists rejected this, arguing "assassination culture" is now entrenched primarily in leftist online spaces.

"A huge portion of leftist culture right now is assassination culture."
— Blair White [24:07]

• Media and Political Response
  • Noted a lack of condemnation from Democratic leaders.
  • Highlighted the normalization of violent rhetoric, both in viral tweets and by prominent commentators (e.g., Hasan Piker's “kill those motherfuckers” clip [22:12]).

"Where are Democrats calling Trump and saying, we can't have this in America? ...We've normalized craziness in our society."
— Adam Weiss [25:33]

3. Conspiracy Theories & Mass Formation Psychosis

• False Flag and Simulation Claims ([13:25], [36:17], [39:13], [95:21])
  • Internet culture quickly spun up both ironic and sincere claims about the event being staged for political gain.
  • The Trump-as-time-traveler meme exploded after a mysterious old social media post seemed to predict the assailant’s name, fueling wild speculation.

"People are claiming that the pixel art is some kind of like mashup of the Trump Butler photo... A lot of people are claiming this is proof that Trump is a time traveler."
— Tim Pool [93:38]

• Media Groupthink & Copycat Messaging ([46:05], [47:51])
  • Discussion of political group chats and claims by Ashley St. Clair that MAGA narratives are coordinated—debunked in part, noting this is more hive-mind than actual conspiratorial messaging.
  • Meme magic and retweet culture drive online ideas to rapid and unanimous adoption.

"If you want to be insulting, say it's a bunch of lemmings walking off a cliff...they're all just saying the same thing. Like, man, if we had a ballroom, this wouldn't have happened. And then someone tweets it, and then someone else retweets it, and then they're all talking about it."
— Tim Pool [49:43]

4. Media Performance & Societal Decay

• Critique of Journalistic Response ([80:14], [81:26], [83:40])
  • Viral criticism of a journalist (Olivia Rheingold) who live-filmed her own reaction in selfie mode during the incident, rather than documenting the unfolding scene.

"I'm actually deeply offended by this video for one simple reason. I want to see what's going on...This exemplifies so much of what I experienced 10 years ago. And we see endlessly today people trying to maximize the views they get to make themselves famous."
— Tim Pool [81:26], [83:40]

• Reflection on Social Breakdown ([33:41], [91:00])
  • Compared modern atomization and lack of social cohesion to America’s past, when even partisans would pause and grieve together after national tragedy.
  • Cited South Africa as a cautionary tale of societal collapse and self-imposed imprisonment, drawing parallels with urban America.

5. Political, Spiritual, and Philosophical Exchanges

• On Civil War and Competing Cultural Realities ([30:28], [33:41])
  • Tim Pool repeated his thesis that the American constitutional system as practiced today lacks consensus, with two irreconcilable worldviews occupying the same country.
• Speculative Sidebars: Mass Formation, Spirits, and UFOs ([102:02], [107:02])
  • Entertained theories about time, the Mandela effect, alien “chicken coop Earth,” psychic phenomena, and the prison of the modern mind.
  • Established that mass formation psychosis (the crowd mind) is distorting public discourse and perception.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Blair White on the Internet Bubble and Trust
  "It's kind of surreal having been there and like, kind of seen the, the, the situation and then going on my phone and like, the whole world thinks it's fake...I think people's trust in the government institutions is just [gone]." [13:35]

• Tate Brown on Redditor Tone of Manifesto
  "He literally opens it up like, hello everybody. Like, it's like this. Oh, it's so glib. It's like, that's what makes it so disturbing…That's literally like the vibe you get when you're reading it." [28:08]

• Blair White on Both Sides-ism
  "I just wonder if the people who think that everything is fake, if they understand that they're just as irrational as people who think everything is real, like just believe the narrative wholeheartedly all the time, are just as irrational as people who think it's all fake." [25:05]

• Adam Weiss on Charlie Kirk's Influence and Aftermath
  "After Charlie was assassinated...people were googling Charlie Kirk. Learning about Charlie Kirk. Right. Moderates, independents...So what they do. Let's go after Erica [Kirk]...It was crazy, the things that we're going after, to go after Turning Point, to destroy it again." [72:21]

• Tim Pool on Social Media Narratives
  "Most people don't think it's fake because they don't live in retard land. I know because I was out at a bar when this happened and no one even thought to mention the possibility of a staging of an event." [36:33]

• Blair White on Demons, Angels, and Mind Control
  "It's more like they create boundaries on our mind and our spirit of, like, where we can go spiritually and mentally and intellectually. Like, it's more of like a inner prison." [107:45]

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Important Timestamps (MM:SS)

• [03:35] — Initial coverage of the assassination attempt; Trump’s survival.
• [08:26–13:06] — Detail from Blair White & Adam Weiss; Manifesto details and event recap.
• [13:35–15:02] — Security failures and why the assailant's plan couldn’t work.
• [21:22, 22:12] — Leftist calls for violence; Hasan Piker’s shocking clip.
• [24:07] — "Assassination culture" defined.
• [36:17, 39:13] — "It was staged" narratives, social media bubbles, and Google trend data.
• [46:05, 47:51] — MAGA group chat/coordinated messaging debate.
• [80:14–86:29] — Viral criticism of press behavior during and after the shooting.
• [91:00] — South Africa analogy for urban insecurity in America.
• [95:21–98:18] — Trump-as-time-traveler meme/conspiracy deconstructed.
• Various — Sidebars on language, mass formation psychosis, and metaphysical speculation.

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Tone and Style

The discussion balances Tim Pool’s signature mixture of seriousness and irreverence, blending sharp analysis, first-hand reporting, cultural criticism, and internet meme humor. Frequent asides, comedic jabs, and engagement with conspiracy theories (sometimes tongue-in-cheek, sometimes direct) mix with sober warnings about political violence and institutional decay.

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Conclusions & Takeaways

• Security failures and increasing political violence are being dismissed, weaponized, or memed—there is little neutral ground left in institutional or online response.
• Online culture and mass communication are driving rapid adoption of both serious concerns and unserious, fantastical theories, contributing to real-world division and mutual distrust.
• There’s deep cynicism in the panel about the possibility of "return to normal"—participants repeatedly reference an irreparable split in worldview, a normalization of insurrectionary thinking, and a decaying sense of national community.
• Legitimate critiques of elites or establishment power are being drowned out by hyper-polarized rhetoric—while some voices on the right and left both overtly and implicitly justify political violence or the dehumanization of opponents.
• Beneath the surface: the normalization of "staged" or "false flag" claims for everything, regardless of evidence, as coping mechanism, defense against cognitive dissonance, or simply as viral entertainment.
• Even panel self-critique: acknowledgment that online influencers, regardless of ideology, can become entrapped by echo chamber incentives, profit, and groupthink—while any path for reintegration or forgiveness seems remote.

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Final Reflections (Closing Segments)

The episode closes with the familiar Timcast call to self-reliance and traditional values—jokingly recommending chickens and bunkers as civilization collapses. But even as the panel indulge in time travel jokes and quantum metaphysics, the core message remains: mainstream American civil and political life is under severe, possibly irreversible, strain—and media, internet, and institutional responses often exacerbate the crisis.

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"Most people don't think it's fake because they don't live in retard land…It's a weird thing that these people try to do. What Kyle's actually doing is not saying people don't care about it. What he's actually saying is you shouldn't care about it. He is doing an appeal to the masses. He is saying to appeal to majority. Hey, everybody. Everybody thinks it's fake. It doesn't matter. Right. That way you look at that and go, yeah, I agree with everybody."
— Tim Pool [40:17]

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Transcript

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[Tim Pool]

The third assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Now, admittedly, there were more plots, but this is the third actual attempt. So security camera footage showing this man, identified as Cole Allen, charging full speed into the White House correspondents dinner before being subdued. And right on cue, you know exactly what you'd expect. There are many people on the left that are saying it's staged, it's fake, no one believes it's actually real. And these people are not the majority, because when you check the search trends, my experience, I mean, I was out doing what one would call touching grass when all of this went down. I was actually at a bar and I saw people freaking out. The conversations were pretty intense. People are genuinely worried about this. And it's reasonable to believe that this lefty guy from California who wrote a manifesto saying he wanted to kill Trump and Trump administration officials tried to do it. Now he's been charged officially with an assassination attempt against the President, which carries upwards of life in prison, as well as many other charges in D.C. we're getting new information as of course, this story is developing, but we'll go through all of that as well as a few other stories. But this one obviously is the big breaking news. And the interesting, fun element of the story, surprising to say, considering it's a horrifying story, is that people believe Trump is a time traveler. I know, right? I said it was gonna be weird and fun. But there is a post online, a social media account with only one post from two years ago. The name of the shooter, the image, the profile picture, is a Pepe the Frog wearing a black tie, holding a glass of Chardonnay or champagne or something. And it looks just like Trump did in the C span video. I believe it's C span of when this shooting started happening. Many people are saying this proves Trump is a time traveler. There's a lot more than just that element of it. One month ago, people found these old drawings from a hundred years ago of an airship with a golden haired man, a blonde guy piloting it. An artist from over 100 years ago drew these weird airships with Trump written on them. And so of course this proves according to conspiracy theorists, that Trump is a, a time traveler. But we'll break down the serious element of the story and then the serious nature of the left response, saying that it's the right who's been violent. We'll talk about that and a lot more before we do. We got a great sponsor, my friends. It's pocket hose. You guys gotta check out pocket hose, man. This thing's amazing. I'm excited to tell you guys about the number one expanded garden expanding garden hose. Their brand new product, the pocket hose ballistic. The number one expandable hose in the world. Super lightweight, easy to manage, easy to store. Turn the water on, it grows, turn the water off and it shrinks back to pocket size. The pocket hose ballistic is reinforced liquid crystal polymer used in bulletproof vests, making the anti burst sleeve practically bulletproof. And that liquid crystal polymer fiber is actually five times stronger than steel. Comes the pocket pivot which gives you total freedom of movement at the spigot with 360 degree rotation. You move it, it follows and the water flows. Enhanced with an upgraded UV coating so the hose looks new year after year. Re engineered thicker washers that resist leaks. Pocket hose carries over 100 patents worldwide. It's amazing. Now for a limited time, when you purchase a new pocket hose ballistic, you'll get a free 360 degree rotating pocket pivot and a free thumb drive nozzle. Just text Tim to 64,000. That's Tim to 64,000 for your two free gifts with purchase. Again, text Tim to 64,000. Message and data rates may apply. Shout out to Pocketos for sponsoring the show. Don't forget, join [e-mail] we got some big updates coming, but you got to get in the Discord community. Tens of thousands of people hanging out, sharing news. Not what you know, it's who you know. And if you're looking to start a project, you want to be involved, you got to check out Timcast.com's Discord because as a member you're supporting the work that we do and the community is supporting you. But you'll Also get to call in to the uncensored portion of the show coming up at 10pm so don't forget to smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight, we actually have a couple of guests hanging out. Of course. Blair White is back.

[Blair White]

Thanks for having me. Always fun to be here.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Blair White]

YouTuber, podcaster, influencer, all of the above.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. And we also have Adam Weiss.

[Adam Weiss]

Thank you. I have a communications company, amwpr, CEO, Media Exposed. I host a show covering the media business. But there's a lot to talk about this week. It's on Real America's Voice News and a publisher of Impact wealth magazine as well.

[Ian]

We'll see about getting that microphone maybe, maybe secured for you if we get a chance.

[Tim Pool]

Is it falling down wobbly? We'll get it. We'll get it. We can force. Ian's here.

[Ian]

Hey, everybody. Good to be here. Good to see you. Adam. Blair, always a pleasure. Going to be a great show. Hey, Brown dude.

[Tate Brown]

What's going on, everyone? Yeah, I'm excited to be here. We got some interesting stories over the weekend, although it wasn't too busy. But there was something that happened, I

[Tim Pool]

think, Carter, I'm also hanging out. So let's get into it. Something happened to someone, something.

[Tate Brown]

There's some incident, something at hotel.

[Tim Pool]

Bunch of reporters did some things, you know. But here's a story from the BBC. Suspect charged with attempted assassination of Trump at Washington dinner. Cole Thomas Allen, 31, was also charged with two firearms offenses when he appeared in court in Washington, D.C. on Monday. He did not enter a plea. He was carrying a semiautomatic handgun, a pump action shotgun and three knives as he charged past a security checkpoint at the White House Correspondence association dinner on Saturday, say prosecutors, a Secret Service agent was hit but not seriously wounded during the attack. Now we do have this footage posted by Donald Trump. Many of you may have seen, but we'll play for you now. There it is. He runs full speed through 18 after him. Now, I believe he was mostly uninjured. The story is that as soon as Trump announced he'd be at the dinner, this guy booked a hotel room, checked in the day before. He wrote a manifesto outlining what his strategy, what his plans were, why he was doing what he was doing. I don't want to read the full thing. It's not really a manifesto, more, I would call it a minifesto because it's basically a half page. But he basically said who he was going to kill. And he said from the highest ranking to the lowest Trump admin officials, including Trump himself, and that he'd be willing to kill anyone who got in his way. Strangely, for some reason, he said he would not kill Mr. Patel.

[Blair White]

Yeah. What is that about?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. And Cash was asked about it, and he said he didn't want to answer the question.

[Ian]

Yeah, that's a weird.

[Tim Pool]

They had a press briefing today and he was asked two questions. And then the reporter was like, would you like to answer to these? And he says, not the former, but the latter. And then he didn't answer why this guy was going to spare Cash. I don't, I don't understand.

[Tate Brown]

This guy was like, he's already underwater at the Epstein stuff. I don't want to make things worse for him.

[Ian]

Right.

[Blair White]

Because in the manifesto, one of his main concerns was Trump being allegedly a pedo in his own words, which is, you know, that kind of refers to the Epstein files. And like Cash, Patel dropped the ball just as much on. On the Epstein files. So what is his, you know, he

[Tim Pool]

said, I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. To be completely honest, I was no longer will a long time ago. But this is the first real opportunity I've had to do something about it. I want to just stress without getting into great detail the first, there's. There's two main reasons that you'll know. This man is first, he tried to kill a bunch of people. Like, right off the bat, something's wrong with his brain. And the second thing is, in the stupidest way imaginable, this guy's saying it's the first opportunity he has is to try and run full speed into a heavily guarded hotel. That's like, he was never going to make it. This guy's really, really dumb. There are people that are attacking law enforcement, saying it wasn't secure enough. These people are failing to understand the layout of this building. You could not just run into the ballroom. He had to run around and go downstairs. It was a long corridor and there was. There was security at every. Every layer. This is. This, this guy is very dumb.

[Adam Weiss]

Well, Tim, if he wanted to get the officials, not just Trump, Blair and I, like you said, we're living in simulation. Right. It's kind of weird, the whole feeling we got. We walk to the front of the Hilton. So let's take a trip. We're going to the White House correspondence and parties after, do we walk to the very front to get into the actual. Before we were getting to Hilton, there was a little metal gate and they didn't ask for anything. I just said, I have an email going to a party. You walk in and the lobby was filled, hundreds of people. Right.

[Blair White]

The lobby was a free for all, free for all.

[Adam Weiss]

No metal. So then we go, you have to take one escalator down. And that was part of the step and read the red carpet. And at the escalator somebody saying, where are you going? We said, oh, we're just going to a pre party. No id, no proof, no medal to. We go down and that's where he ran in the first level down and that's where you see him running in. Because there's an entrance there with a step and repeat his. So he's on the wrong a. He's on the wrong level. Because then Blair and I go down one more level through an escalator and there's all these pre parties that start at 5:30, they go to 7:15. And there were hundreds, I mean probably a thousand officials, secretaries. If that guy really knew what he's doing, he wanted to hurt people. They never check for guns, they never check for weapons. He could have been in any one of those parties.

[Ian]

Right.

[Blair White]

Everybody out.

[Tim Pool]

But if his goal is to go for Trump, he's not going to go to a party where Trump's not. Right, Right.

[Adam Weiss]

But if he's trying to get damage. But there's no way he was going to burst, that's why into that dumb.

[Tim Pool]

Because he wasn't trying to get random people at parties. He was trying to get Trump.

[Blair White]

Although there was high ranking officials that he said were also were targets at the Fox News party we were at.

[Adam Weiss]

But secretaries. Secretaries.

[Tim Pool]

Which I think just proves he was trying to get Trump.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or he's just really dumb.

[Adam Weiss]

Or prove he didn't. Or he prove he didn't know there were all these parties with these big officials.

[Tim Pool]

You just, I don't, I don't think a guy who said in his manifesto he's not gonna let a pedophile rapist coat his hands with his crimes would intentionally get caught at a party killing people where Trump was not. Like his manifesto makes it clear that he wants to kill Trump. I don't think he's gonna be like, let me not have that. Like, clearly he didn't go to those because Trump was not there.

[Ian]

Or it was a false flag, which I don't think necessarily was. Or someone set that guy up to go do something to get the crowd to go, we need more martial law.

[Blair White]

Well, here's the thing. So it's, it's kind of surreal having been there and like, kind of seen the, the, the situation and then going on my phone and like, the whole world thinks it's fake. I don't necessarily blame anybody because there's been such a lack of transparency for the, the Butler shooting for a number of things. So I think people's trust in, in the government institutions is just.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think the whole world thinks it's fake. I think you're just looking at a bubble.

[Blair White]

Maybe I'm in a bubble. Maybe I'm in a bubble. Yeah. All I know is my mom was like, super normie even had the nerve to ask me, despite me being around, it be like I was fake. I was like, are you kidding me?

[Tim Pool]

I was at a bar when the shooting happened and a bunch of people were just staring, like crowded around the tv, staring up at it, like, oh, my God. Like, the general response that I saw out was Saturday night was not, he's staging this. It was like, I can't believe it happened again.

[Ian]

I didn't think it was staged at first. And someone else said that it was a theory going around.

[Adam Weiss]

Even if he wanted to get, not purposely just wanted to get Trump, it was very unsecure because we were in the, we were in the ABC party, the FOX party, with the highest level officials, the government, and never once they checked for anything. Right?

[Ian]

Never once.

[Tim Pool]

But that's, that's not uncommon. I mean, Trump officials go to parties all the time. Mar A Lago has light security. You could walk in the front door of Mar A Lago and walk around, and the worst thing they do is they say, excuse me, sir, can I help you?

[Blair White]

You just would think it would maybe be different, though, considering Trump's already had multiple.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and I think the concern is especially entire line of succession is there. Right.

[Blair White]

Like, if in one place.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Heaven forbid, something horrible happened, Chuck Grassley would be president right now.

[Tim Pool]

But I gotta stress, I gotta stress this again. He didn't get anywhere near the room we're living. So you're saying it was not very secure, but maybe outside wasn't. But this room he didn't even get inside of.

[Ian]

Right.

[Adam Weiss]

If he was looking solely for the President, he didn't get. There's no way he was getting into that big ballroom.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Adam Weiss]

To get the President. But he clearly didn't want to go

[Tim Pool]

after other people as he stated in his manifesto that he was going after Trump. So again, the question would be why even. Why would he go to a room without Trump in it if he wants Trump.

[Adam Weiss]

But he also said in the manifesto he wanted to get Trump officials and high level officials.

[Tim Pool]

If his motivation was, I will not let a rapist and pedophile, blah, blah, blah. It sounds like the high ranking officials are after the fact. So again, he's not going to go to an insecure room with random people. And if he wants Trump, did he

[Ian]

get caught in the stairwell after this? Does anyone know?

[Tim Pool]

Is that it's like you have to run around and go downstairs and they, they got him right there. And you can actually see in some of the videos, the stairs are to his left, right there.

[Ian]

Okay.

[Adam Weiss]

And there were people upstairs that saw him, like, real close. Because in the ballroom down below, you have to go up the stairs a little bit to use the restroom. That's why there's no in the bottom ballroom. So that's why some of the reporters, like, I saw him and I heard

[Tate Brown]

him, yeah, Wolf Blitzer right there. I was, yeah, I was speaking, speaking to a gentleman who was like talking to Wolf Blitzer as the whole situation went down. And he's like, I thought they were targeting Wolf Blitzer at first because it was like literally right in front of him, as if he would have presumed that he was the target. And then it took him a few seconds to kind of realize, like, oh, it's Trump thing.

[Adam Weiss]

This is so crazy because I was there in 2011. I've been to about 10 of these actual dinners and I was there the night Obama just made him and Seth Meyers. They must have made about 10, 15 jokes towards Trump. The sitting president kept firing shots at Trump and he didn't laugh at all. He was like, that's the moment that a lot of people said, that's when he said, I'm going to get revenge on all of them. And that same night that, well, that's

[Tim Pool]

why they didn't have a comedian.

[Blair White]

Right.

[Adam Weiss]

Same night Obama ordered Osama to go get Osama bin Laden.

[Tim Pool]

They didn't have a comedian. And Carolyn Levitt said before that some shots are going to be fired. Making reference to like, it's the White House correspondents, right? They have comedians come in, they make jokes.

[Adam Weiss]

They wouldn't have one.

[Tim Pool]

They didn't have a comedian. They had a mentalist.

[Ian]

And so they said, shots are going to be fired tonight. And then we talk about meme magic. I mean, maybe we'll pull this. Jimmy Kimmel said something about Melania Trump. Looks like an expecting widow made a joke.

[Tim Pool]

And then like, that's an insane joke, by the way. Yeah.

[Ian]

And so, I mean, shots fired is not an insane joke. It's just a joke.

[Tim Pool]

It's not a joke. It's a turn of phrase.

[Tate Brown]

Fired.

[Ian]

When someone says something, that's not a joke.

[Adam Weiss]

Night before, that wasn't the day of. It was a night before. In his monologue, he knew he was going in. Do you see? And he purposely did that.

[Tim Pool]

He did a fake White House correspondence in her speech where he said, there's Melania. She looks. She has a glow like an expectant widow, indicating that not only would Trump be killed, but that she wanted him to be killed.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. And like, what's the punchline there? Like, hey, look, you look like your husband's about to die.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Like, what are you doing here?

[Tim Pool]

The joke he's making is that she's. She. She wants her husband to die.

[Tate Brown]

Right? And it's just like.

[Tim Pool]

And if you're a psychopathic lib, then you're probably laughing, thinking, like, yep. Because they all cheer for this and they're cheering for it now. And I think it was Van Jones actually, who said, this guy lived, which means the left will make him a hero like Luigi Magione.

[Ian]

I wonder if this dude who's on this, this attempted shooter watched Sachi McKimmel the night before and is like, that's it.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going now. He booked the room in early April.

[Blair White]

Well, I just saw a him from. He tweeted after the Butler incident or just recently or whatever and said that the Butler incident was staged. He goes and tries to do it for real. And he was one of the people who was publicly saying, oh, that one was fake. So it's like, I'm going to do a real one.

[Tim Pool]

Actually. You know, I got to. I got to lean into the it was staged thing, because then this guy won't be a hero. All the libs are going to. He's going to be like, yeah, Butler was fake. But. But I did this one thing. I'm like, no, you're. You're a fed. No, I'm not. I swear, guys, we're all fake.

[Tate Brown]

All this guy.

[Tim Pool]

Could you imagine being a lefty who thinks you're going to be a hero for taking out Trump, but then everyone thinks you're a fed who worked with Trump to help him out.

[Blair White]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Because that's what they're claiming.

[Blair White]

He's not hot enough to be a heroic like Luigi Mangione.

[Tate Brown]

He was trying to be like, Luigi thought like, you know, he's probably getting no play, play etc. Etc. She's like, you know what? I'm going to make a scene. I'm going to. I'm going to be the next Luigi. But he's so chopped that, like, I'm not seeing any chirping from the ladies. I think they're just like, oh, what a freak.

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[Tate Brown]

That just shows clavicular's right, by the way. Cause if he had, like, looks, Max for a little bit, you know, dolled himself up, you might be seeing a little bit different reaction.

[Tim Pool]

If he was just like the Chad meme. Yeah, women would be like, oh, leave

[Tate Brown]

alone, like in this. I thought it was a homeless guy. I was like, what's going on here?

[Tim Pool]

Well, clavicular is right about that to a certain degree. Like, tons of women love serial killers.

[Tate Brown]

You know, the halo effects.

[Adam Weiss]

Real have 15 girlfriends by the time he leaves jail.

[Tim Pool]

Now, I don't know about him, boyfriends

[Adam Weiss]

maybe, but that was the first time Trump went. He never went in the first term. He didn't go to Obama his first time in 11 years. And he reached out, all his staff came with him. And then Carolyn Levitt was on the red carpet. I don't know if you saw this. And. And Brian stuck. She's like about to pop any day now. And he starts attacking her before she even gets into the Fox party and says, are you. Is Trump going to. Is Trump going to apologize for her vitriolic and demonizing of the media. So this is before they were even gracious night. They come out, it's supposed to be celebratory and all be, you know, joke around. He's attacking her on the red carpet.

[Blair White]

It's just such an inversion. Like, is Trump going to apologize for villainizing the media? And it's like, what about you guys creating the situation where someone thinks they can go just like, shoot the fucking president?

[Tim Pool]

Well, take a look at some of this.

[Adam Weiss]

They stop blaming Trump for this.

[Tim Pool]

And it's all, yeah, in response to this story, of course, we're getting a lot of people highlighting the left's call for violence. Katie Pavlich saying outside the White House correspondence dinner, the dude on the right hit me with his sign, and it says, death to all of them. You can see the sign on the left. Death to tyrant. Just one, not. Not more than one. And this was posted about an hour after the shooting took place. We've got this clip of Hasan Piker going massively viral. And, you know, normally I wouldn't play a clip like this in the show because it is. It is obscene and it's a call for violence. But I think it is the utmost of importance that you all hear Hasan Piker is campaigning with Democrat candidates. He is being profiled by the New York Times. This is what he had to say.

[Tate Brown]

Well, my understanding is that the property

[Tim Pool]

owners who have properties there choose just not to rent it at all. Yeah, kill them. Kill those motherfuckers and murder those motherfuckers in the street. Let the streets. Let the streets soak in their fucking red capitalist bloods. Dude, that's just one clip from Hasan Piker that's gone massively viral as the left has continually advocated for violence, even at this event. And my favorite thing, I want to make sure this is all clear to every, everybody. And you can share this with friends and family if they ever ask. They like to say the right is more violent. Most terror comes from the right. The truth is, the left is where most violent violence comes from. And I'll break this down for you, how they lie with statistics. Charlie Kirk had an event. Look the video up. A guy is in line asking questions, and he's a white nationalist. And Charlie Kirk says, get out. You are not welcome here. And everyone claps and cheers. That's the right. They say no to extremist ideology. On the left, Hasan Piker campaigns with the Democrats, and he has advocated for murder multiple times. What they will then do is two things. We have seen this with the SPLC indictment. They will pay for Nazis to show up to conservative events. So they can say, see, the right is Nazis. Then if some whackaloon white supremacist commits a crime, they'll say, that's right wing violence. Despite the fact that identitarianism is prominent in the mainstream left. So if you have a guy who's a white identitarian and you're a black identitarian, you're something else. The mainstream Republican conservative and moderates in this country do not welcome violent extremists to their rallies the way the New York Times platforms Hasan Piker and the way Democrats put him on stage. So if you want to talk about where the violence is coming from, you've got fringe wacko elements of disparate ideologies. And then you have the mainstream left that says Hassan Piker's call for death and violence is acceptable on stage.

[Blair White]

There's tweets that go viral every other day. I'll just be scrolling and it's like 200,000 likes. When will someone do it? Or alluding to taking out the president. And so it's like, for people saying that it has to be staged because who would, who would do this? Who would. Actually, it's like the entire. Not the entire, but like a huge portion of leftist culture right now is assassination culture.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, that's why I think, like most of the. And I'm not saying, you know, it's here or there, if you believe in these things, but the people that believe in all these recent assassinations or assassination attempts are staged. I think it's like, cope ultimately because, like, you're basically downplaying the real threat, which is that like leftists, your neighbors, quite frankly, literally would prefer for you to die. And that's like a really tough thought to wrestle with. Like, that doesn't make you feel comfortable. That really kind of breaks the social compact. And so it's a lot easier to assume, like, no, no, no, there's. There's some shadowy figure that's actually orchestrating all of this. And like, that actually brings you a bit of comfort. Like, at least someone's in control. But in reality it's like, no, we're just rapidly descending into like, score settling.

[Blair White]

And it's almost like a trauma response. It's almost like it's just so scary to actually confront. It's just easier to be like, no, no, no, it's all fake. It's also intellectually lazy because it's not as if false flags don't happen, it's not as if conspiracies don't happen. A lot of them come out to be true. But, but I just wonder if the people who think that everything is fake, if they understand that they're just as irrational as people who think everything is real, like just believe the narrative wholeheartedly all the time, are just as irrational as people who think it's all fake.

[Adam Weiss]

But as Tim said, we've. They've celebrated on the left their craziness. You have these women from Oklahoma, the they called, I've had it podcast. They say the most vile things towards conservative wish them, you know, the worst possible things. And it's normalized now from the left, what they, the behavior they do. And you see it, another attempted assassination. Where are Democrats calling Trump and saying, we can't have this in America? None of them, right? They don't call him. They don't go over the White House and visit him. We've normalized craziness in our society.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I don't think it's that we've normalized it. It's that the left is embracing it more and more. And I think the issue is, you know, look, you got a nice little golden retriever and he's looking at you and he's wagging your tail and you don't really think twice about it. Then you got a ravenous, rabid dog screaming and snarling at you. You're like, I'm going to, I'm going to stay away from that one. It's easy to reprimand the dog that's being nice and bop him on the nose. But that ravenous, rabid rottweiler not going anywhere near. And that's what we have in this country. Conservatives don't want violence, don't want people who advocate for violence, they denounce it. The left cheers for it. It really comes down to one simple question. If there's a run of the mill, regular person standing in the street and one person is waggling, you know, his, wagging his finger at him, they're gonna, they're gonna, I'm gonna yell at you, the other person who's threatening to murder them, they're gonna say, I'm gonna avoid you. Please don't hurt me. That's what we get. That's antifa. The cops, why do they let the criminals go? Why does antifa get away with whatever they want? It's like I've said a million times, there is no fear from any of these big institutional These big tech companies that Carl Benjamin will lead a bunch of post liberals or classical liberals with pitchforks and burn down a social media headquarters. It's not going to happen, but it is a guarantee that Antifa will come with bricks and sledgehammers and kill people.

[Adam Weiss]

The problem is the media. We're sitting here. Reverse it. If it was three, eight, if it was nine years ago and 100ft from the Hilton, those protests are outside and say, kill all of them. And it was Obama was president, my God, would every media be doubting every one of those people? But yet we're talking about the signs and nowhere in the Mainstream Media They're 100ft outside, lunatics with signs, kill them all.

[Tim Pool]

Bethany Mandel's got this tweet about Katie Porter. She said, imagine Barack Obama surviving three assassination attempts and 18 hours later, Republicans sent a fundraising email like this. F. Trump. Katie Porter writes. I'm Katie Porter. Some of you know me as the whiteboard lady who held CEOs and billionaires accountable in Congress. So today I want to start with one simple, powerful message we all agree on. Say it with me. F. Trump. That's right, F. Trump. Together we're going to kick Trump's A in November. I mean, heck of a thing to send right after Trump was subjected to an assassination attempt.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, and you know, like, you may like sort of hand wave that away and be like, let's just Reddit language. It's very Redditor language. But if you read the guy's manifesto that attempted the assassin, you know, this assassination shift on Saturday, he literally opens it up like, hello everybody. Like, it's like this. Oh, it's so glib. It's like, that's what makes it so disturbing. And so they're like literally rabid animals. But then they're like coaching it and couching it rather. And like Reddit speak. And that's the most horrifying part. He's literally like, well, that just happened. Like, that's literally like the vibe you get when you're reading it. And this guy's actually intending on killing the President.

[Tim Pool]

And he did it because his motivation is social acceptance. In his mind, Trump is all of these bad things. He is going to be celebrated by the left for what he did. I guarantee you right now the funny, the joke we make, you know, early on is actually funny. All these leftists are claiming that it was staged. So this guy who's thinking he's gonna get celebrated is now being accused of working with Trump. Cuz people are nuts. I Guess. Although that story makes literally no sense. This guy, in his mind, every day he opens up Reddit, and what does he see? Trump is a pedophile, rapist, or otherwise. Erica Kirk is evil. The country is controlled by Israel, and so what does he do? He thinks, well, someone's got to stop him. Right? This is what their rhetoric leads to. The problem is they live in that reality. You cannot remove them from that reality.

[Ian]

They all can. I talked to my dad earlier, and he's like, that Trump, he was pissed. And I was like, he's like, registered Democrat. I'm like, okay, yeah, but the communists want a fascist crackdown. They want to piss you off and then the government to react so that they can then call their things, have their communist revolution. We talked about Saul Linsky's rule for radicals. He was like, I hate communists. Like, he's old school, like, Vietnam, Navy, dude. He wasn't in Vietnam. He was in the navy during Vietnam. So when you talk about the communist revolution that wants to piss people off and get a fascist response, that's where they start to see it. They're like, oh, shit, am I a pawn? Am I a foot soldier? I don't want a communist revolution.

[Tim Pool]

That's not most people. Boomers understand Red scare everyone. Millennials, Gen X, they don't.

[Ian]

I was thinking today, like, what happens next is technocracy. Whether we want it or not, it's either going to be a communist technocracy if this leftist crap takes over, or it's going to be a. Hopefully an American technocracy with like, free speech and gun rights and property rights.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's not happening.

[Ian]

You know, we'd have to build systems that are, like, advocate for American constitutionalism if we wanted to.

[Tim Pool]

Otherwise, I was, I've been having a, you know, we brought up time and time again on this show my position, of course, that the Constitution does not exist. The Constitution is a figment of your imagination. And the reason I say that is because the Constitution as we adhere to it today is wholly different to what it was in 1850 and how. And I don't mean the Bill of Rights, I mean the articles of the Constitution. We don't even have our government functioning the same way based on the structure of government through the Constitution. The issue is half the country believes a Constitution that does one thing, the other half believes in a Constitution that does another thing. And they're arguing with each other about how they are the true heirs to the American fortune. You don't convince either side that the other side is Actually correct. Ever. Never happens. You will not convince an American constitutional Republican to give up their traditional view of the Constitution. Nor will you convince a Democrat to let Republicans, AKA fascists in their mind take control of this government. These worldviews are incongruous and they are large. It is a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic occupying the same territory. And the end result is this. And I don't see how we get anything other than an escalation of it. And we said it a million times.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, I mean like a lot of the institutions, like I think this divide actually occurred a lot earlier than just the last 10 years. I mean people have obviously, specifically on the left have radicalized a lot more than 10 years. Last 10 years. That's certainly true. But as far as like the core tenets of sort of both camps ideology, those lines were drawn in like the 1960s. But I think two things sort of prevented that from the actual divide to start bubbling up was one, pop culture. We had very sort of tangible middle ground, kind of we can break bread here. We can watch the super bowl like, oh, you're left, you're a Democrat, I'm a Republican, but we can break bread over this. And it's not a big deal. But those sort of things started to get worse and worse and worse, just quality wise. So then now you have less in common. People aren't watching the same things, et cetera. And then B, obviously I think Obama actually was the one that really sort of stuck his thumb and the wounds that already existed, I think that it had existed for 50 years at that point. And he stuck his thumb in there and that just inflamed tensions dramatically. And that led to Trump. And now we're in this moment.

[Adam Weiss]

When I grew up in the 90s, I had a group called the Young Conservatives, Suffolk County Law, and then Young Conservatives of New York. And we used to carry petitions to get people on the ballot. And then at the end of the day we'd all go to this place called the Landmark Cafe. But Democrats, Republicans, we'd all get together and hang out. We were all friends. That society basically doesn't even exist anymore, right? And when I was really young, I was on a bus and I remember and Reagan was shot. And some reason I was like, really? I was like, maybe in elementary school. And the bus driver said, adam, Adam, come up here. For some reason I wasn't into politics. For some reason he called me to the front. I just want to tell you, the President was shot, but the country would stop. The Democrat, Republican Independent would stop and heal for a night. The other night when was assassination and we went back, we went. Blaine and I went to another party but she got tired and I kept going to 2:30. And there was a Time magazine party at the Swiss embassy. Everybody was partying. It was inside the Beltway people wasn't really a MAGA crowd, but it was all the elite journalists, young, they could care less. That's a society now that they keep.

[Tim Pool]

I think this is evidence more so than ever. Like we are on the brink of breakdown. The system of governance is purely the confidence of the people that exist below it. A constitution is what constitutes a people and their moral worldview. And we do not have a constitution in this country. So right now I'd argue that we are closer than ever to collapse due to one fact and that is the point you're making, that no one cares. I mean they care a bit. Like I was explaining, I saw people crowding around being like, wow, I can't believe it happened again. But I think for the most part it's like, well it's the third time. The, the first time it was like, oh my God. Now it's like wow, the third time, huh? The issue is this shows with three instances, more and more people do not feel that they will be penalized by a government. They do not feel that there is a system in place for which they would be wrong to oppose or that it could inflict something upon them. You have governments where if you speak out in the wrong way, you die. You go to the gulag and people fear this, so they shut up. You have governments with just general strong law enforcement and people say, well, if I were to go commit a heinous act, I will be killed. Or the moral structure of if I were to do this, everyone would hate me. But you don't have any of those things. I'm Serena Williams and I'm healthier on ROE. I've lost 34 pounds in a year

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[Tim Pool]

These people not only feel that either they you will not be held to account, you'll be let out by some judge or you'll go and sit in a cell and they'll write books about you and sing songs for you celebrating you. They also just don't think there is a functional government they have to morally adhere to. I want to pull up this clip that's going viral where people are claiming it's fake. They faked the whole thing.

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[Tim Pool]

That's the real story here. Literally no one cares. Everyone thinks this is fake because of course they do. See, the first thing I just got

[Ian]

to point out is that guy's scripted and being fake.

[Tim Pool]

Well, he's completely fake because if you pull up 15 comments and think that's reality, I got a bridge to sell you. We have long known about sock puppet opinion blasting on the Internet. So for this guy to be like it's fake look and then he just shows you a bunch of comments. I'm going to debunk this, this retard immediately by showing you Google trends over the weekend with Cole Allen having like five plus million searches on Google relative to the next highest at 200,000, which is rotter Clipper. Yeah, I wonder, do people care? Well, what about a 1000% increase in search volume on a guy's name? I'd go ahead and say yeah, that likely indicates people care because they're actively seeking out information on it. Now he makes the argument that many people think it's fake. No, that's just you retards. Most people don't think it's fake because they don't live in retard land. I know because I was out at a bar when this happened and no one even thought to mention the possibility of a stage staging of an event. It wasn't until you go online and you find people like Kyle Kalinsky who, mind you, thought Trump would lose Iowa in 2024 and who doesn't know what a Farm is. These are not exaggerations. He's saying it's fake. I want to stress this to you guys. Kyle Kalinske making the argument that this is staged and it's fake or that nobody cares and everyone thinks it's staged. This guy took a picture from an airplane at farms. Said, I wonder why it looks like that. And he's a great liberal. Yes. Did he say it is?

[Ian]

The lines people think it's fake.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let me pull up his tweet so I can be fair to him. But I also want to point out, in 2024, he posted that Trump that Kamala was going to win Iowa. So stop listening to these psychopaths. Now. I will do this. I'll pull up his tweet in a second to make sure I get the context right. But Jimmy Dore. Jimmy Dore. I'm not surprised. Jimmy has gone off the deep end because he's been Kirk posting and Israel posting incessantly. He says nobody is buying the psyop designed to engineer support for the ballroom. Are you kidding me?

[Blair White]

Trump doesn't need support for this.

[Tim Pool]

This has been the most got people

[Adam Weiss]

throwing money at him. Donors, billion dollars. They need any help.

[Tim Pool]

The fake shooting is the argument that Trump staged an assassination attempt to build a ballroom. Yes.

[Ian]

That's a bit.

[Tim Pool]

That's what they think.

[Adam Weiss]

He's already. He's already building the ballroom.

[Ian]

They. Well, it's a statement. They did the fake shooting. That's a claim, brother. You got to back it up with something. J.D.

[Tim Pool]

what?

[Ian]

That's.

[Blair White]

No, but that's the thing is that conspiracy theories. We were just talking about how, like, I personally miss high IQ conspiracy theories. They're just getting so dumb now that it used to be like, I'm just asking questions, which is valid, but now there's no questions being asked. It's just like stating it's fake.

[Tim Pool]

So I'll give. I'll give you. I'll give you a fair point. Kalkinski said it's not just leftists or liberals either. Normally, normies simply do not give an F. Everybody either thinks the entire thing was fake or are like, whatever. Now, I'll give him a little bit that a lot of people are like, man three times. But again, I will stress when search volume is more than, you know, 20x the other search term. Yeah. People are searching for what happened. I'll put it this way. Viewership on YouTube and social media posts pertaining to this are through the roof. I've got several tweets with thousands of retweets and hundreds of thousands to millions of views related to this as we're tweeting about it. Literally, people care about it. It's a weird thing that these people try to do. What Kyle's actually doing is not saying people don't care about it. What he's actually saying is you shouldn't care about it. He is doing an appeal to the masses. He is saying to appeal to majority. Hey, everybody. Everybody thinks it's fake. It doesn't matter. Right. That way you look at that and go, yeah, I agree with everybody.

[Ian]

And most people care for telling me what the truth and how to.

[Tim Pool]

How to be.

[Ian]

Yeah. And anyone that claims about what everyone else thinks is probably someone to avoid their opinion. If it's a slate, a slanderous, hyperbole, irrational statement. You don't know what everyone thinks. You probably don't know what most people think.

[Blair White]

He doesn't know what he thinks. Like, there's no thought process behind even. It's not even a theory. He's just saying it's fake. So what do you even think? Just. It's just a reaction.

[Ian]

I bet he thinks it's fake or he's checked out. Kyle is.

[Blair White]

Well, because the only alternative to just saying it's fake is having to admit if you're a partisan like he is and you're on the left, that your side is a side engaging in this. Like, unless you want to pull out some both sides. But it's really not both sides. Only one side's president's been shot at in recent history. Only one side had a podcaster influencer murdered in cold blood. Charlie Kirk. If it was both sides, there'd be leftist podcasters getting shot at. And God forbid, I don't want that. You know, Biden would have been shot at, and God, thank God that didn't happen.

[Ian]

But I made an offhanded comment about Gavin McGinnis, about the proud Boys, how I was concerned that it might, you know, when the Proud Boys in Antifa had been fighting in the street a little bit, I was like, it reminds me of the brown shirts and the black shirts, the Nazis and the commies going at it. But Pre World War II and Gavin, I got.

[Tim Pool]

I got to give. I got fact check. I got to a correction. It would do. Do you remember when Antifa was attacking Proud Boys? Yeah, they.

[Ian]

And then some of the Proud Boys struck back is what happened. They got into it and then they fought back. Yeah, but I was. I made the statement on this show that I was concerned that that would lead to like street violence. And Gavin heard that, he was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And dis immediately like, qu. Reduce the level of violence. That is never the intention of the proud boys. It wasn't supposed to be. It was like a gang of. It was hanger outers, drinking dudes that got riled up, but their intention was not to do some right.

[Blair White]

So if even this, you know, quote unquote, as the narrative goes, this extreme group of proud boys, right. If they're willing to de escalate, we're not seeing that on the other side. These groups don't de escalate. And you don't even have to be a huge figure or all the president United States to have antifa show up to your stuff. But, you know, when I had like 100,000 subscribers on YouTube, I was doing live talks and I had people come up with bike locks that were antifa. This was the years and years ago at the beginning.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the bike lock. Bike lock bandit, they called him. He was at Berkeley and had a bike lock and he was bashing people in the head with it.

[Blair White]

Right. So that just scales left us.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Adam Weiss]

I wanted to take a look at the Chronicle, the events, because Trump is called every name in the book every day of the week, and he finally decides to go in front of 1500 of his most vocal critics. Right. He cordially going to go there. And the night before, we were at New York for a club and I said, how are they going to treat him? I don't know, are they going to stand up and protest? They're going to. Boom. I wasn't sure how they treat him in the room. But then another assassination attempt happens. He. After that, he said, he says, I want to keep going. I don't want this thing to be closed down. I want. He really wanted to. He doesn't want to, you know, these psychos to let him ruin the evening. Right. So he goes back and he's still really nice to the White House. President Wei Xi Zhang was really conciliatory to her, really complimentary to her of the evening when she is so nasty towards him every day. This woman from cbs, age one. But he still was kind and nice to her. So for all them to keep blasting Trump and they're starting already, the news media, because Norah o', Donnell, the next night in CBS had to read the manifesto right to his face. And I'm glad he gave it back to her.

[Ian]

What happened?

[Adam Weiss]

I didn't see 60 Minutes. She read, oh, yeah, the Manifesto says you're a pedophile. Well, she didn't say you says, he talked about what is the comment?

[Blair White]

A pedophile. Rapist.

[Adam Weiss]

Rapist. This and this. And he says, you know, you're disgusting for reading that. It's terrible.

[Ian]

You read this and then she said,

[Blair White]

oh, you think it's about you, like just playing dumb. It was so gross.

[Adam Weiss]

Right?

[Ian]

I tell you man, we, this conversation, this is a little bit of a tangent, but like pedophile rapists, like we were talking about age of consent in the United states is generally 16 in like 30 states. And pedophiles, like prepubescent rape, statutory rape is different than aggressive, violent rape. So like these words, man, like, yo, if a guy hooked up with a 17 year old girl in a place where it was legal when he was 40, that's not a pedophile and it's not a rape. I don't know what to tell you.

[Adam Weiss]

Like, but these words also, they've done this to go after Trump, they've done this to go after guys and they just, they've stretched the border when it's not pedophiles. Pedal, even what's his name who was flying 17, 18 year olds to the. That's not pedophile.

[Ian]

Pedophile.

[Tim Pool]

The funny thing is people in this country don't realize that in 30 states in D.C. the age of consent is 16 and by all means that's disgusting. And if you want to change it, lobby your state to change it. It's not 18 though. 18 is only a handful of states.

[Blair White]

But even still, it's like, let's not even act like Trump has like 15, 16 year old, you know, people claiming anything. So it's like for her to read the manifesto, like that was so like on air like that, as if there was some valid thing.

[Tim Pool]

I want to play this clip from Ashley St. Clair. Following the shooting, a ton of pro Trump accounts said we need a ballroom. Which helps ignite the conspiracy theory that Trump staged this to get a ballroom, which makes no sense because a shooting, they can advocate for a ballroom from it, but it's not going to create any legal standing for them to get a ballroom. But here's what she said. Actually, I have to unmute it as one does. There you go.

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[Tim Pool]

That's false and an exaggeration. And you know, Ashley's a friend. I'm not any of these group chats. But I would prefer it. I think it'd be nice. And if she explained that she's talking about a handful of people and some PR companies, that's fine to say, but say everything is MAGA and fake and staged because of this handful of people.

[Blair White]

Is anyone at this table in a group chat where we get told what to say?

[Tim Pool]

I'm not.

[Blair White]

I'm not.

[Adam Weiss]

And I never.

[Blair White]

It's easier.

[Tim Pool]

Let me play. Let me play.

[Adam Weiss]

I wish I got some coin too.

[Blair White]

And what do you know?

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[Blair White]

Needs his ballroom.

[Tim Pool]

I want to highlight Mike Sternovich. I don't know if he's actually in this.

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[Blair White]

Not probable.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to stress that Megan McCain is reviled by most of these people as well. They're not in group chats together. I would also stress that Ashley is correct. There are group chats. It's not that they are in. So there's a mixture. One, Group chats have always existed for a variety of reasons. Some government officials will create group chats for the purpose of messaging. They do exist. I don't think they're that big. However, I had a group chat maybe like eight years ago that was like eight people, and it was like six people I did not know. And it was just about politics in D.C. and everybody kind of argued with each other. It wasn't really anything coordinated. I was also in a group chat called a journal list back, and I think this is like 2014 or 2013 on Facebook. These journalists were controversial because as it turns out, prominent journalists in the corporate press were all in these same group chats. And it wasn't that they were giving instructions to the journalists on what to write about. It's that they were all talking about the exact same things. The conspiracy theory was that there is a secret cabal of journalists that mandate all of the companies run the same stories, when in reality, all of these people are just friends with each other and they think the same things as they talk to each other.

[Blair White]

And also people copy tweets that they see getting likes.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Blair White]

This is the thing you can tell happens all the time on Twitter. I'll sometimes think of an original something and if it does well, I'll suddenly see this one and that one just kind of rewording it. So, like, this exists, but you'll pretend it's all of it. And also, if she was still with Elon Musk or still getting money from him like she wanted, she wouldn't even be doing this. So it's just. It's disingenuous.

[Tim Pool]

So here. Okay, explain more.

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[Blair White]

And so.

[Tim Pool]

So what, Butler?

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[Tim Pool]

They're all friends with each other. Some of them actually did work on the campaign or now work in the administration, and many don't. In fact, there are many people who've appeared on the show who literally work at the Pentagon now.

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[Tim Pool]

Well, so I'll say this like I.

[Blair White]

And that's why you're mad. Ho.

[Tim Pool]

Ashley, I'll criticize you if I think you deserve criticism, as I would with anybody, be it Milo or anybody else. This is. This is. This is. I would give it A good old 50% correct. There are group chats. There are government officials in these group chats. They don't create these group chats for the express purpose of, hey, guys, I'm going to give you the official government narrative that you need to say. These are just birds of a feather flocking together. And it's more like, if you want to be insulting, say it's a bunch of lemmings walking off a cliff. That's one way you can describe them. They're not intentionally saying, tell us, Master what to do. They're all just saying the same thing. Like, man, if we had a ballroom, this wouldn't have happened. And then someone tweets it, and then someone else retweets it, and then they're all talking about it. I'm so mad. They're blocking the ballroom. And then you get a narrative, and

[Blair White]

is it necessarily wrong? Because if you want to believe that the UK and Russia and China don't all have ballrooms for their officials, clearly they do. Why America doesn't have one, I don't know. I'm not, like, passionate about it. But clearly a conclusion. If the Trump. If the president has to be at the Hilton and there's an assassination attempt. He probably shouldn't be like down the street at the Hilton. He should probably be at a more secure location like the White House.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. As if that's like a crazy concept after this instant to be like, yeah, we need to. It's like if they came out and they all tweeted in unison like, hey, this is why we need to pass the hot rotisserie Chicken Act. That'd be like, okay, maybe right if

[Tim Pool]

there was a vote.

[Blair White]

But he doesn't. Just justification. It's funded already.

[Tim Pool]

I got to give a shout out to this guy, humbled voter who says the hypocrisy and then post an image of a ton of anti Trump leftists, you know, all posting the exact same thing about conservatives posting the exact same thing. I don't believe that awakened with JP or being libertarian.

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[Blair White]

It's almost like political sides become hive minds. Like it's not that shocking a full disclosure.

[Adam Weiss]

Ashley gave me some. We were colleagues, good friends. Eight, six, seven eight years. Ashley Sinclair. She gave me business for old company where she would do a promoting candidates and we had group chats right away. We just had a group chat. What does it mean? You know, just friends and colleagues and let me.

[Tim Pool]

Let me just tell you guys, I had a group chat back in 201819 when I was talking about with DC journalists where I was telling them a Civil war was coming and they told me I was crazy. Yeah, they said Tim's nuts.

[Tate Brown]

Also her initial batch of like accounts there. I would pay to see a group chat with Meghan McCain and Mike Cernovich in this. I would be like, you know, what

[Adam Weiss]

are you really going to say in a group chat? They're not going to really say business or exchange money in a group chat.

[Tim Pool]

It's just I was talking of all of the people to, to accuse to Mike Cernovich. He rags on everybody. He is, he is not in this like Trump beltway mega space. A California guy. He supported Trump, he's criticized Trump. He's kind of his own thing lately.

[Blair White]

He even criticizes Trump more than. Yeah, supports him. And also, just another thing about Ashley Sinclair. She's been doing all these videos lately exposing things that aren't even shocking. She did one where she was talking about how it's always sexual degeneracy at like right wing events and stuff. And it's kind of like you only know that because you're partaking clearly. Like I've never been invited orgy at a cpac. And if you're saying that all that happens because you experience that you did that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but that's right.

[Blair White]

No, I'm sure it happens. But also if you know that, it's probably because you are the type of person to be invited to that no one's ever.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, to be fair, she is literally doing the like, I am no longer MAGA or. Right. Here's what was going on behind the scenes. So that's kind of the shtick.

[Blair White]

Yeah, and that's fine. But it's also, it's revealing because it's like, it's a lot of projection in my opinion. Guys, you hold your all the way up to Elon Musk.

[Tim Pool]

I have to rag on the right every so often. You know, actually I should just do it more often. You created Ashley St. Clair and they should not have. And I've made this warning over and over and over again about what happens when you refuse to forgive people. Ashley St. Clair was a prominent voice on the right, helping people on the right. And you may say, well, we don't like her, she's gone bad, blah, blah, blah. Well, she was getting attacked mercilessly. She was getting insulted, she was being barred from events. She was on the outs with Elon. Fine, I get all that. Her fight with Elon and their kid resulted in people on the right attacking her and calling her names. So she did the only thing a human Being can do found community elsewhere. So when the right said no, she went to liberals and said, please, I have nowhere to go. And they said, denounce everything you've ever said before. And she agreed to do it. By all means. You can criticize her for that, but this is what people do. That's why I have long said over a decade now, you must create a path toward forgiveness. Otherwise people will choose just to go the other direction. And you create your own enemies. Don't do that.

[Blair White]

That's true. When she was in the midst of getting all the hate for the Elon stuff, there was a lot of things said and kind of done to her that was unfair. And a lot of the issues she was communicating were valid and could have been calmed down by Elon making different choices, too. She got a lot of the blame for things. So that's true.

[Ian]

I feel real bad because I never dogged her. I didn't ever want to.

[Tim Pool]

I like Ashley.

[Blair White]

Ashley neither.

[Ian]

And it seems so sad because I

[Tim Pool]

saw her, she was like, I want

[Ian]

to have another baby when I was talking to her. And then she did with Elon, and it was like, elon's a Magnum. He's a stallion. You know, you can't corral the man.

[Tim Pool]

I feel like stallion. I'd love to have Ashley. I mean, it's been like three years since she's been, oh, she's welcome back anytime.

[Adam Weiss]

You know what happened. I think, you know, all of us are very independent here. Him, me, and Blair. The first Trump administration, he had too many turncoats, people. He became a nervous wreck.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody.

[Adam Weiss]

Every other day, somebody was writing a book, going against him for money. This time around, it's like more sycophants. It seems like in the MAGA space, nobody wants to criticize him, go against them. So when this happens, it's like, you know, it's the mag.

[Tim Pool]

How dare you know that?

[Adam Weiss]

How dare you criticize Trump.

[Tim Pool]

The party stuff is all fake thinkers.

[Adam Weiss]

We're allowed to criticize either side anytime.

[Tim Pool]

So I criticized Trump periodically over the years. I support him, I voted for him, but I think he deserves criticism sometimes. I've praised him. I think he's the best, the greatest president of our generation. Even with the Iran war that everyone's mad about and I did not vote for. I still look back at all the other presidents and I'm like, eh, Trump's still a marginal victory. But when I criticized Trump two years ago, no one says anything. When the descent, when Desantis was running and we were in that Weird space. And I was like, I'm Fer Desantis. No one in the media was like, tim Pool breaks from Trump today. All of a sudden media outlets are like, tim Pool mocks Trump, saying he's humiliated. I'm like, I never said any of these things. Like, it's really weird. They're trying to claim I'm now anti Trump.

[Ian]

They're using turncoat energy if they can.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's just hard to last

[Blair White]

for over a year.

[Tate Brown]

Well, I think what it is, is the left is like locked out of the zeitgeist because what's dominated the zeitgeist for the last six months is the MAGA civil war. Would you see what Tucker said? Oh, but you see with Jack Posopic, Rick can, you know, like, whoever. They're going at it and everything and it's like, no, they're just, the left is completely locked out of the zeitgeist. So the only way they can like participate is like, yeah, he's, he's with us. He's with us. No, no, he's with us.

[Adam Weiss]

It's the same thing in the first. If you turned on Trump, the Washington Post would call you tomorrow. Cnn. Tim, can you come on please? It is now.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but I didn't turn on Trump.

[Ian]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

I got it. I get a call from the Wall Street Journal like, we'd like to have a conversation about your thoughts on Trump. And then Reuters calls me and I'm like, yeah, I think Trump's overall net positive. You do? Uh huh.

[Adam Weiss]

Oh, bye.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Blair White]

They see criticism as like a complete, it's very autistic. It's like a criticism means a complete condemnation. It's like, or it's normal to criticize the person you voted for because that's what you're supposed to do. Unlike if you want to be a Democrat and vote in a vegetable and then act like everything's perfect for four years even though we don't have a president.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to, I'm going to say this. I believe that the majority of people who have turned on Trump are liars and hypocrites. I believe that Tucker Carlson is a liar and a hypocrite. And I will tell you why. When Tucker first came out critical of Israel and, and you know, and, and saying the things he was saying about Qatar and Islam, whatever, I'm like, I don't know. You know, Tucker's allowed to have his opinions. He's. People have opinions sometimes they disagree with and Tucker is always, you know, he's had some good ideas. Here's the thing. Tucker came out and said that he is tormented by having supported Trump. He is sorry for misleading people. He didn't mean it. He didn't do it willingly. And then his brother literally says maybe that Miriam Adelson money came, you know, for some reason, and he laughs. Tucker knew 100%, because we all did, that Donald Trump took an estimated 100 to 160 million dollars from Miriam Adelson to support his campaign. And it was reported far and wide, this was money given to Trump as a quid pro quo to take the west bank, that he would support Israel's effort to take the west bank, and that's why he got the money. Literally every single person knew this. Donald Trump hired John Bolton, fired 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria and killed Soleimani. The idea that they are now shocked that Donald Trump is fighting in support of Israel, supports them. He moved the embassy to Jerusalem in his first term. The people coming out now going, oh, my, I never knew. They are liars, every single one of them. If you want to criticize Trump for doing all of those things, please do so. And with my blessing. Trump should not be launching Tom Hawks into Syria or dropping bombs, whatever. Not a fan. But if you're going to come to me and claim you did not know when literally on this show, we covered stories with your comments, talking about how y' all actually knew. You are liars and hypocrites. And I am sick of all of these people. Now, I can say this of Ashley. She's always been nice to us. She's been a friend, talked to her periodically, not really all that often. Her coming out and saying all of MAGA is paid obviously comes from a place of rejection and animosity. It is not correct that all of MAGA is paid and coordinated, but she's obviously pissed at a lot of these people. However, many of these people in the inverse seemingly coordinated used to be pro Trump because it was the popular thing to do. Woke was cringe, Bud Light was boycotted, and these people all jumped on board. And now that the trend says don't like Trump, they're acting shocked that Donald Trump took money in support of Israel. Spare me your hypocrisy.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, there's literally. I was looking at the other. There's literally a quote from him, or it was a clip from, like, 2012, and he was like, netanyahu is like the greatest political leader in the Middle East. Like, I'm the most ardent Zionist. He literally Said I'm an ardent Zionist. Trump did.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

He was like going into the 2016 presidential cycle, he's like, I'm gonna be the most pro Israel president ever. And then all of a sudden, people are surprised now. I mean, again, I'm vocally opposed to the Iran war. They hate a bad idea, et cetera. I've explained that on the show a few times, but I'm not shocked. I'm not. Like, this is a scandalous. It does on the no new wars thing. Feels like a bit of a sort of renege, so to speak. But again, the idea that he's pro Israel, you're shocked by that. It's like, first of all, he's a baby boomer. That's like all of them. Second of all, he said it over and over and over and over again. You kind of got to believe the guy when he makes at his core foreign policy position for the better half of a century at this point. I mean, he's been saying it since the 80s.

[Ian]

Yeah. His son in law is Jared Kushner, who I think is considered. Considered himself Zionist. I haven't talked before his daughter converted to Judaism. Not that Judaism has anything to do with Israel. You know, it's a country.

[Tim Pool]

Here's an article from 2024 from the New Arab Pro Israel billionaire Miriam Adelson backs Trump campaign pushes for west bank annexation. We all knew this story.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, the people.

[Tim Pool]

Now that I can't believe that Donald Trump is this. They're lying.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. I literally remember people were correctly pointing out that, you know, going into 2023, the Biden winner is that Trump? Like all these legal troubles, he was running out of money and he had to start receiving donations from, you know, traditional Republican donors. Yeah, that's like not a surprising thing. And I remember people that were commenting on that and they're like, oh, that's interesting. And then all of a sudden, now they're like shocked by it.

[Ian]

So are you saying the people instituting lawfare against Trump pushed him into the arms of the Israelis via Miriam Adelson's no bailout.

[Tim Pool]

He always. He moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem in his first term. The dude's been like, he. He's been unrepentantly pro Israel the whole

[Ian]

time undercover about it? Kind of.

[Tim Pool]

No, he was not Syria. Well, bro, the dude could not speak more highly of Israel the whole time.

[Blair White]

I think it was less that he was undercover about it, but I think there's just been like a more in mass. People are actually tuning into issues with Israel. People actually care about it now. I think people just didn't really care. Back going to.

[Tim Pool]

That's a. What, what irks me a lot about that is that most of what these people are saying, it's mass formation psychosis. They're not talking about legitimate criticisms of Israel. Some people are like, Dave Smith is a really great example of somebody who has legitimate criticisms. I am not talking about him. I'll give you another example because Clint Russell's welcome on the show, but he literally made a video called Israel Derangement Syndrome Debunked. And I can only say that I believe that Clint is. I'll be, I'll be nice. Clint, you're being untoward because you know that my statement on what Israel Derangement Syndrome is not you. And I literally said my libertarian friends have legitimate arguments against Israel. What he then did was when I argue that there are people who think Israel is controlling the opiate drug trafficking trade in West Virginia, that's derangement. He then claims he's debunking Israel derangement by making normal arguments about Israel. He's doing that in my opinion. Clint, you're doing it in my opinion because it gets clicks because you're attacking me to the Israel Derangement syndrome people cuz you want them to follow you and I think that's stupid. But you're welcome to come on the show and then you'll be forced to agree with me because you know I'm right.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. When you had figures like Pat Buchanan, I mean since the 80s were like making well mannered, sort of calculated, intelligent, you know, criticisms of a relationship with Israel and it was like out in the open, but then now people have latched on prior to Iran. Now like now with Iran, okay, maybe that's a little bit different situation. But prior to that it's like where were all you guys? Because you can look at a lot of these people, like five years ago they were ardent Zionists or they were like super pro Israel. And then all of a sudden they fought flip again. Like after October 7th, you know, the incentive structures change around a little bit. So they participated.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it was called TikTok, changed their algorithm and boosted anti Israel content and made a bunch of people rich and famous for attacking Israel. And that is a fact. And the Democrats. And I literally was arguing this. I had one tweet with Clint to Dave Smith about this. So basically Dave said, you got to watch Clint's response to Tim having Randy Fine on the show. And then my response was acting like me Having a guest on the show is indicative of my opinions is hypocrisy. And the issue largely. Go back to your point. I want to. I don't want to. What were you just saying? I don't want to.

[Tate Brown]

No, no, no. Yeah, no, no, I was just. I mean, I was making. The point is like, where were you when it was not in vogue to again, like.

[Tim Pool]

Right. The point, the point that I made is that every time one of these, these issues comes up with Israel and foreign funding, people just do not understand literally any of U.S. foreign policy. It's just only Israel exists. And so I'm like, yeah, you know, I've long said we shouldn't fund Israel and we shouldn't fund Ukraine and we should stop spending money. But why all of a sudden now are the people who know my opinion is we shouldn't have foreign funding for Israel, Ukraine or otherwise are acting like I'm in favor of Israel for criticizing people who are retarded for blaming Israel for opiate trafficking in West Virginia.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah. Literally. I mean, yeah, people like after the Charlie Kirk thing and they were going everywhere, I'm like, what is going on? Because I remember like five years ago they would be like, yeah, having a Netanyahu centric foreign policy, like creates problems. If we're trying to stitch together like an anti China power bloc in the Middle east, like this could be a problem. Maybe we should cut them loose. Now it's like, yeah, I think the Israelis killed Charlie Kirk. And they say like a straight.

[Tim Pool]

I have a question about that. The conspiracy theorists argue that Charlie Kirk was murdered by Israel because he had turned on Israel. Right?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He put out, he had this text message where he said that the donors are falling at every Jewish stereotype, giving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause for that reason Israel killed him. I then asked this question of several people. How come Candace Owens is featured on YouTube front page promoted despite breaking the rules? I have been told by all of these people it's because Israel wants to be hated. They need the world to go to war with them to bring the so so that the messianic era will. Will occur. If that's true, then why did they kill Charlie Kirk? Both cannot be true. If Charlie was turning on Israel, isn't that what you just claimed they wanted? They wanted the world to turn on Israel so that could foment a war from the. The world would go to war against Israel. That would bring on the messianic era. If that's the case, why would they not Just have Charlie Kirk do this and then if the argument is okay, well they don't want to be hated, then why would Candace Owens be propped up and promoted by YouTube despite breaking the rules? Who's in control of these things? None of it makes sense. It's all mass formation psychosis and the people who claim they're just now looking at Israel are lying for clicks because they're weak willed retards. I was going to say something else, but I'll say that for the after show.

[Blair White]

I think that aside from legitimate criticisms

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[Tim Pool]

Yeah, if someone asked me do you think there was a conspiracy to kill Charlie Cook dancers? Of course there was because people knew on social media that Charlie was going to be killed. Something was going to happen. They indicated foreknowledge. There were reports of multiple vehicles outside of the alleged assassin's home. There was a community, a weirdly seemingly scripted conversation. Certainly did not seem like this guy acted alone, at least based on the surface level evidence that we have. So then if it was not just some whackaloon lefties who did it, but there was some capability behind it, who is the first group of people that it would make sense killed? Charlie Kirk. Uniparty Democrats. Because Charlie Kirk is the one who got Donald Trump elected. Turning Point USA rallied all of these people into voting for Donald Trump. And if you want to stop Donald Trump, you need to stop Charlie Kirk. Then you need someone who's going to prop up and push all you need to prop up somebody who's going to push all of the conservatives who are weak willed away from Trump. Hey, wow, there's a handful of people that are doing that conveniently. Let's jump to this clip to carry on that story. We've got this video from the White House correspondents that are shooting Erica Kirk seen crying after shots were fired. Here's the short clip. So this video has gone massively viral and that's all it is. Erica Kirk saying, I just want to go home. And there's been a few things. One, a socialist woman made fun of her for having a budget dress, which is kind of funny. A socialist saying her dress is on sale because that's what these women are actually motivated by, I guess. And then of course, people claiming she is fake crying and staging all of this. It's fake.

[Blair White]

But if she wasn't crying, then why is she not showing emotion? Right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I, you know, I think it's actually quite simple. Erica Kirk, her husband is killed. They, the management, the donors, they say you have to be the face of this because no one else can. With all due respect to the team, Jack can't do it. Colvitt can't do it. She is the only one with Kirk gravitas despite only having a small piece of what Charlie had. She has to be the face. She's not gonna. I doubt she runs the company, I doubt she's managing much. She's probably just doing the pr. The amount of psychotic vitriol lobbed at this woman, I can only argue is a psyop for a handful of reasons.

[Blair White]

I don't see anything like it, to be honest.

[Tim Pool]

It is insane. So first Charlie dies, then when his wife tries picking up the slack to save his organization, she gets Attacked in every possible direction by all of these people in the most insane way imaginable. And I'm going to say siat for a couple of reasons. First, as I mentioned before, the RPMs on the phrase Erica Kirk are disproportionately high, meaning you will get more views and make more money attacking Erica Kirk than doing anything else. Seriously. You want to make finance videos, you will make a comparable amount of money, but less views than if you just insult Erica Kirk. That is very weird, and it's indicative of an op. I'm sorry, it just is.

[Blair White]

Like someone's funding that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Or big tech is. Is driving people to it for some reason.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And. And I think, unfortunately, it also is, in its own way, very organic. I think a lot of people just are hopping onto it. And. And this goes back to, like, it's not okay in the eyes of, like, at least the psychosis on the Internet happening to theorize anything other than Erica being behind it or Israel being behind it, like, there's no other options. I personally don't think it was only the guy who's in jail for it right now or going to entrepreneur for it right now. I think it was probably him and some other people. I think there's reasons to think that. I haven't seen anything that's convinced me Erica herself is behind it. And so for me, I'm kind of like, okay, if you guys are right that Erica is behind it, then I. I suppose the hate is pretty justified. But if you're wrong, if there's, like, any chance you're wrong, which I think is very likely, you're wrong, then you're just abusing a widow. That's the only thing.

[Tim Pool]

Mass formation, psychosis.

[Adam Weiss]

After Charlie was assassinated, I'm turning point exploded chapters. Hundred thousands of thousands of chapters. People were googling Charlie Kirk. Learning about Charlie Kirk. Right. Moderates independence. This is not a bad guy. This is not demonized. Why would someone try this? Right. So what did they. They couldn't demonize Charlie anymore. So what they do. Let's go after Erica, what she's wearing. Let's go after makeup. Let's go after a hug. Let's go after her thoughts. It was crazy, the things that we're going after, to go after Turning Point, to destroy it again. Because if we win the hearts and minds of young people, that's how conservatism grows. That's how our movement grows. So I think it's an alternative attack not only on. On the obvious, on the left and the media, but A lot of crazy on the right too.

[Tim Pool]

Or I think it's an op. I think the deep state was like, why do we keep losing? We're not going to beat Trump this 2024. And, you know, looking at everything that's happened, I couldn't come up with a better plan myself. If someone came to me and said, how do we turn this around? I'd say, well, you know, Charlie Kirk's a problem because he's rallying young people. And if you lose young people, then you lose. After Charlie is dead, it's like, okay, well, now they're raking in massive donations. You gotta go after and character assassinate Erica Kirk in any way possible. And they do it in the craziest ways possible. So, like, Erica Kirk does an interview, and it's kind of mundane. And I watch these interviews, I watch all the news, and I'm bored with it. Nothing. Nothing spectacular happens. She sits down and she says, well, here's what we're trying to do. And I'm like, then on X, someone takes the video, slows it down a little bit, adds creepy music with, like, eerie violin, and then zooms in on her eyes and does a boomerang effect. So she's going like. And then. And then it shows someone. There'll be like a person in the bottom corner, like a TikTok video going like, this is weird. Why is she so weird? And that's all people ever see of her. And I will give you an example going back to yesteryear. I remember back. Remember when Sarah Palin was running was 2008.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I was talking to someone in Chicago who said, well, I mean, the problem with McCain isn't just that he's like a fascist. You know, Sarah Palin thinks she can see Russia from her house. And I went, that. That's Tina Fey. She's like, well, no Sarah Palin. She could see Russia from her house. I said, no. Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live said, I can theoretically, from my house. And it was a joke. But people heard that and thought Sarah Palin literally said it. What did Sarah Palin actually say? She said when she was campaigning with McCain, she did an interview where she said, I would do great. I'm paraphrasing on foreign policy, especially as. As we're dealing with Russia, because as many people know, we are only about 50 or so miles away from Russian territory. In fact, from the westernmost point of Alaska, you can actually see Russia.

[Blair White]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So with the trade routes going to the Bering Strait, I've already negotiated these terms with other countries and I'm like, that's a great point. She already, as governor, Alaska has foreign policy experience. Then Tina Fey makes a joke I can theoretiate from my house. And liberals were like, I can't believe Sarah Pilot said that. That's the world we live in with mass formation psychosis. So when these people make fake Erica Kirk videos, they go, did you see that weird video where she was like making a weird face? No, but I saw the edited one where they played eerie music. You believe that? Yes, they do, because it's an op. When, when Candace came out and attacked Nick Shirley, it should have been obvious to everyone. She dug up a year old video from Nick Shirley and accused him of fabricating his stories to discredit the work he is doing exposing fraud from the Democrats. The only conclusion I can make looking at the big picture, and maybe I'm wrong, is that Candace is working with Democrats to destroy Turning Point USA after the fact to stop them from winning, not as a Democrat, but as a spoiler. Erica Kirk is evil. Don't support Turning Point usa. Israel is bad for a million and one reasons. The earth is flat. I don't know. That's what she said. And all of this propped up on YouTube despite breaking the rules. Now you may be saying, I don't believe our second. Then why is Nick Fuentes banned despite them saying very similar things, I wonder.

[Blair White]

So I met ERICA Kirk like 30 minutes for the first time. Like 30 minutes before that video we just played. And her energy was very like sad. And so then for this to happen and then see the video of her crying and walking through, I saw something genuine. What really got me was people posting like, oh, there just was a perfectly placed camera. There was thousands of people in there. Like everything was being filmed. It was a televised event.

[Tim Pool]

There's a post on Reddit where you've got photos of Secret Service with their guns drawn. And the shots are incredible. And it's, it was like the, it was, it was a top post. You go to Reddit.com in popular and it was like the fifth post right there on the front page. And it was, who got these photos? And all the comments were like, this is staged. How did they get these action shots? And I'm sitting here being like the White House correspondence dinner. Literally every single person in there works for the press. So when shots were happening, there were literally tons of journalists standing in the hallways with cameras.

[Adam Weiss]

There's 1500 people in that, 1500 in the, in the, dining, in the ballroom, all Journalists. And there's another thousand that didn't go to the ballroom, that went to the parties. So you. Thousands of journalists, the top journalists in the world there for that one night. They call it the nerd prom. And finally, the cool kid was about to come and speak. And that didn't last too long.

[Tim Pool]

Y.

[Blair White]

Everyone in their sole job is to catch stories and photographs and video. It's like, oh, my God, dude.

[Ian]

Erica's nervous system after, like, seeing her

[Adam Weiss]

saying, I want to. I just want to go home.

[Ian]

Like, that's not even to your house. That means, like, go to a place in my memory where I'm safe. She's probably holding it together, like, tenuously. And then she goes here and another gunman. And it's like, is this get. Just gonna get worse forever?

[Tim Pool]

How is she not quit?

[Adam Weiss]

And she was very kind to us. She came into the Fox party. I said, eric, I remember Adam. Yeah, I remember. We. We used to talk before she carried Charlie, she lived in New York. She's very kind to us.

[Blair White]

She was very sweet, but she had a very broken.

[Adam Weiss]

Can you imagine? She hears gunshots, and she's sitting in one of the front tables. Everybody's going under a table.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know how she doesn't quit.

[Adam Weiss]

She's heard.

[Blair White]

She probably heard, probably for Charlie's honor, which you didn't know who was going

[Adam Weiss]

to storm into the ballroom and start shooting people at that moment when you

[Tim Pool]

have this, like, I. I certainly can't understand the psychotic extremes that people are going to and attacking her. But it must be insanely difficult to have to decide between standing up for what Charlie built or just quitting and leaving. Because, you know, that's what they're trying to make you do, right? They are trying to get Erica to break. She quits.

[Blair White]

There is a viral tweet that said it's. It was this disgusting person with pink hair, of course, saying, it's so funny to give Erica Kirk ptsd.

[Tim Pool]

Have you just go on threads. Go on Threads and look up her name.

[Blair White]

I would never.

[Tim Pool]

It's crazy.

[Blair White]

It's, like, traumatized me.

[Tim Pool]

Rand, I talked about this. So I go on Instagram and I'm looking at, I don't know, skate videos and things like that and snowboarding. But every so often, it'll give you a Threads recommendation because they want you to use threads. And it was a woman saying something about Erica Kirk. So I clicked it brings me to threads. And it was a woman's or. No, it was a guy posting some Erica Kirk conspiracy stuff. So then I look at the search term for Erica Kirk and it was a bunch of middle aged women with no followers just threatening to kill Erica Kirk.

[Blair White]

I'm sure. Oh, I'm sure.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm just like these people are psych.

[Blair White]

And can I tell you how sad it is that it doesn't actually for, for at least people like that. The middle aged, you know, women with no lives whose husbands probably hate them if they have husbands. Unfortunately it doesn't get more complicated than like she's a beautiful young blonde woman with beautiful children who had the perfect, you know, seeming husband perfect like nuclear family life. And a lot of are jealous and a lot of men are jealous.

[Tim Pool]

I want to jump to this viral tweet from the shooting at the White House Correspondents Dinner from Olivia Rheingold where she is being mercilessly mocked because as this security incident was occurring, I'm making fun of Fox News, by the way. During the attempted assassination, she turns her camera on and films her own face the whole time she tweets. Terrifying. A few ground shaking knocks by my seat at White House Correspondents Dinner. Unclear if shooting I am. Okay, we are trying to exit now. It's got 10 million views. Here's the video.

[Blair White]

We were just seated over. I'm seated near one of the doors and the. People are shouting. USA now. I don't know, I just heard like four huge knocks by this door. Everyone,

[Tim Pool]

I don't know, maybe it's

[Blair White]

safe now, but it's.

[Tim Pool]

She should be fired on the spot. She works for the pre free press and this is what everyone's posting, photographing something you want to show everyone. Males, object, females, her face in front of the object. I'm actually deeply offended by this video for one simple reason. I want to see what's going on. And I can hear, but I can't see. So when I see this video and I click it, I can hear shouting and it's just her staring at the camera. Hold your phone up. Show us what's happening. For the love of all that is holy, this one's really driving people insane. It's got nearly 10 million views because instead of doing journalism, she filmed herself like a deeply narcissistic psychopath. And this exemplifies the problem with this generation. The deep narcissism of look at me instead of I'm gonna show you what's going on right now. I think, I don't think you know, it is not that it was her intentionally trying to obstruct. It was her first thought is I should film my own face. These are the people that are working in media. This is what we are dealing with. We don't have an actual journal.

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[Tim Pool]

COM podcast apparatus trying to inform the public anymore? A small handful maybe, but this exemplifies so much of what I experienced 10 years ago. And we see endlessly today people trying to maximize the views they get to make themselves famous.

[Ian]

Dude, this. Like this. It's sort of a sick fantasy of mine to be like, what if I was the one guy who chose to run out into traffic and save the baby and some guy recorded me and then uploaded it and I became a famous person for a selfless act of heroism. And then people like want to catch themselves in it. And like doing the act of heroism, it completely refutes the. The vibe. Like you're not a hero if you're making everyone see your worse.

[Tim Pool]

I just, I, I got guys, I want you to pause real quick and just imagine. Imagine you are kneeling on the ground on all fours, ducking. You hear potentially shots. I want you to imagine you are holding your phone in your right hand and it's on a front facing camera filming your face and you keep glancing at it.

[Ian]

It's insane. Insane. That is situational awareness as well. Like if someone did come up behind her, she should be looking.

[Tim Pool]

She's like, am I? The point is we can see her face. But I want you to imagine what it's like to have been her sitting there taking your phone and selfieing while this is going on and you're, like, looking at your face.

[Adam Weiss]

I bet her and hundreds of other jurors left and said, thank God, I'm okay. And they'll probably all in group chats like earlier, blaming the president, not blaming themselves.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I don't know about that and all about themselves, but what I can just say is, having done a lot of this work, been on the ground and filming things, the idea that your first instinct is to hold your phone in selfie mode and keep glancing at it, what are you filming? Honest question in your mind, what do you think you are filming? That's the craziest thing to me. This woman goes, better film myself right now. Why? Why would anyone want to see your face? Honest question.

[Ian]

Maybe after the habit, just in case someone barges in the room, you've got the footage, but, like, nothing happened.

[Tim Pool]

She could have put her normal phone on the normal back camera and held it up and filmed the room.

[Ian]

Yeah, I'm kind of.

[Blair White]

It is annoying. The only thing I can think to say in her defense is I think it is easy to judge what you would or wouldn't do or should do in a situation.

[Tim Pool]

Like, easy for me to judge that I did it for over 10 years and I was shot at while I was doing it.

[Blair White]

You specifically asked her? I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

That's why I'm pissed off.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because if I was in the White House correspondence dinner and a shooting happened, the first thing I do is I click live on my phone and I'd hold it towards whatever was going on. I would try and not hold it in a way that looked like a weapon, by the way. And then I would start explaining what was happening. Guys were at the White House correspondence center, and reports are that shots may have been fired. We're taking cover right now. I'm not going to expose. I don't want. And I would not be filming my own face. However, it is fine if periodically you turn the phone around. That's what I used to do. You film the moment, you explain what happened. Then you can turn it back to you and say, here's where I am right now. This is what it looks like. Back to what's going on in the room.

[Ian]

Age of deepfakes. That's actually a pretty good idea to verify that it's an actual video, even though you could deepfake your face into the thing. But it makes it a lot more like, you know, My question is, were there shoot. Were there bullet shots fired?

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Ian]

To take the guy down.

[Tim Pool]

Did the guy shoot? He Shot?

[Blair White]

Yes, he shot. And then they shot him.

[Adam Weiss]

He had a Secret Service agent.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, we don't know exactly who that. The Todd. Blanche was very careful when asked about this. He said. I think he said that they believe the shot came from the shooter, but they want to be careful before they've done the actual friends.

[Ian]

When she said that there were four loud knocks. I think she said four. Was. Were those the shots?

[Tim Pool]

There were five shots.

[Blair White]

It was a shot and then four. That Secret Service shot. And. And I think they're saying. I don't know how confirmed it is. Like, you just said that there was one Secret Service person who was shot and he got hit in the bulletproof vest.

[Ian]

You make a really good point, Blair, that judging someone in a high stress situation is kind of out of. For me, it's. I think I went a little too far because I don't know what I would do if it hit the fan. Hard. Hard.

[Blair White]

That's the only thing. It is annoying. And because she is part of the press, she should have been doing press. But also, I kind of. I might have done something retarded.

[Tim Pool]

This is not press. This is TikTok selfie. Look at my face.

[Blair White]

Is she. What is her job, though?

[Tim Pool]

Like, I think she's a writer at the Free Press. Oh, she's a staff writer at the Free Press.

[Blair White]

Okay. She. She probably should have been filming this.

[Tate Brown]

Meanwhile, you had Dana White just to soak in. In the moment, kind of think about, like, if you. That was awesome. Sometimes I'll be driving like a.

[Tim Pool]

Like a flying object. My first thought is not to film my face looking at it, but to film the thing in the sky. I don't know if that's relevant or not, but.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, that's true.

[Blair White]

But if she wanted to go viral and have her face go viral, she did.

[Tim Pool]

That's true.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I know. That's kind of the thing is, like, either she does one of, like the 300 angles that we have already that has like 20 likes, or she blows up, gets 10.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no. We don't have an angle from her position in the White House correspondence dinner.

[Tate Brown]

That's what the phone up. I mean, I'm not defending her. That's. That's obviously narcissism. But, you know, her payouts gonna be nice.

[Ian]

Get a little insight into what the panic was like in the room.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. But you don't. Instead, you see her face.

[Ian]

Well, you get to see her panic.

[Blair White]

And now she's on Tim gas.

[Ian]

How many views does she have so far?

[Tate Brown]

10 million.

[Adam Weiss]

What's up, Olivia?

[Ian]

Oh, you're crushing it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but it's 10 million people hating on her. Yeah, yeah, but that's the meme. The meme. Of course.

[Tate Brown]

You know, I guess she figured. She's like, I work for the free press, so what's there to lose? Everyone's gonna hate me anyway, so.

[Ian]

Any presses?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I.

[Tim Pool]

What I heard from other women is that the actual crime was her hair. Oh, snap.

[Blair White]

The hair is kind of bad.

[Ian]

I don't want to go hard, but yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Whoa.

[Tim Pool]

Women. Women are posting this screenshot being like, the worst thing that she did was not the selfie, it was the hair. And I'm like, that probably offends her more than the men because the reason

[Tate Brown]

she did that is she's like. She had what, four or five of her co workers, like, notice her outfit and her, like, get up and everything she get. She's got to show it off, so she got to film it.

[Tim Pool]

She's like, it would be really sad if, like, she did her hair. And the whole reason for the selfie was that she wanted to turn her. Turn her head back so you could see the. Whatever that's called. Oh, my God. What is.

[Blair White]

The bun should have been tight. They're too loose. They look sloppy.

[Tim Pool]

What are they? What is that?

[Blair White]

The little buns.

[Tim Pool]

They're called buns.

[Blair White]

Yeah. And she should have folded it over. Yeah, she should have had one tight bun. Or if she wanted to do two, they both should have been tight.

[Tate Brown]

Just totally phoning it in.

[Blair White]

Unbelievable.

[Tate Brown]

You're gonna be in front of 10 people and that's the best you could do? Come on.

[Tim Pool]

I. I'm telling you guys, it's time to get some chickens, buy some land in the middle of nowhere, because our generation is cooked. You can live in a city, you can have luxuries, but put bars on your windows and buy an in house cage like they do in South Africa, because it's just going to keep getting worse. These are the people that, that are supposed to be providing news. And this is what our generation does.

[Ian]

What are the in house cages do

[Tim Pool]

they have in South America or South. South Africa? So they have a fence around their house. Then in their house they have a secondary fence for where they sleep.

[Blair White]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

Because the criminals will break through the fence, go in the house, and then it's hard to get to the second fence or it gives you time. When you wake up, you hear the banging, you can start praying because they're going to rape and kill you.

[Ian]

So you're in a secured Area within a secured area.

[Tim Pool]

That's what it's like living in South Africa.

[Ian]

Don't hate it.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, why would I would want to live there? Double lock. I met this couple from South Africa and they were like, it's not as bad as people say it is. Yeah, I think we've only been carjacked maybe five times.

[Ian]

We do live in a pretty.

[Tim Pool]

And I was like, I'm from Chicago. I've been carjacked 0our society.

[Ian]

Like, I walked down the street sometimes

[Tim Pool]

and I looked side to side at

[Ian]

the houses, and it's just glass windows. I'm like, yeah, we live in, like,

[Tim Pool]

such a high trust society.

[Tate Brown]

Well, I remember when I was in Pretoria and I was talking to some local guys and I was like, you know, I don't remember how it came up, but I was basically explaining them. In the United States, you can just walk up and like, knock on someone's door, you know, and oftentimes people will answer it. And some communities, they don't even lock their doors. And they were like, what are you talking about? Because they didn't even understand that, like, that's a. South Africa is a unique situation in which you have, like, basically a prison that you live in. They don't understand. You can just like walk up and knock on someone's door. I'm like, yeah, bro, there are people

[Tim Pool]

in the UK walking into random houses. Remember that?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah. Literally.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, some, like, young black dudes were doing a prank where they just walked into random houses. And you do that out here in West Virginia, you die.

[Tate Brown]

And this family I stayed with in Johannesburg, they had two gold German shepherds and they're both puppies. And I was like, oh, did you get them recently? And they're like, yeah, they. They poisoned her last guard dogs. And I was like, they poison your last guard dogs? Like, it happens all the time. Yeah. Like what?

[Blair White]

Not all.

[Tim Pool]

They throw meat in with poison in it, right?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, they throw a little poison so when they break in, they don't have to worry about, like, an attack dog. So I was like, jeez Louise, it's

[Blair White]

a lot of voodoo in South Africa too. I just watched a thing about that.

[Tim Pool]

What is voodoo?

[Blair White]

There's like more like. It's like witchcraft. There's like more witches and.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know what they do, right? Like, they have a lot of aids. So what they'll do is they'll take a needle, prick themselves, and then prick a random, random person in, like, a touristy area because they believe that AIDS is a Curse. And that if they transfer the curse to you, it'll cure them. They also have the world, the highest incense per capita of baby rape, I mean literal babies. Because they also believe that you can transfer the cure the, the disease, the curse, to the pure baby.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, we've seen the numbers. It's back to the drawing board, I

[Tim Pool]

think South Africa, man.

[Tate Brown]

Good strategy. Yeah, South Africa. And then if you had to ask people, it's like, okay, so you're telling me all these things have gotten worse. This country is just in free fall. It's basically a collapse state at this point. Have the people got more right wing? No, no, they still have liberals in South Africa. So it's like this whole idea that you can just accelerationism is gonna create a more right wing environment in the United States is like, no, you just get crushed, actually.

[Tim Pool]

And, and when that does happen, liberals keep pushing for it and conservatives never do anything about it.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. And then you have Martin, then like Marxist elements are like, hmm, or we must not be doing it right. Maybe we need to tweak it even more.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this next story. Is President Trump a time traveler? Century old sketches spark new conspiracy theories. Now, this is a story from about a month ago about these weird images that were drawn by some dude, Homer Trump. It says 45 99. And there's a bunch of them where it's like this weird drawing. There's a bunch of other ones. They only have the one featured here where there's strange vehicles driven by a blonde guy and it says Trump on it.

[Blair White]

That's weird.

[Tim Pool]

So here's the thing. Let's start here. Mj Truth also says I can't unsee it. Now, I didn't want to believe it at first, but I do now. I believe time travel is real and I believe President Trump is a time traveler. Uncle John Tesla Image Published on October 20, 2021. Butler assassination attempt, July 13, 2024. And so watch this real quick and I'll explain it in a second. People are claiming that the pixel art is some kind of like mashup of the Trump Butler photo. Right. And this has to do with the Henry Martinez post. Two years ago, Henry Martinez posted Cole Allen and literally nothing else. That's all the account ever posted. The name of the shooter, he's wearing a black bow tie. It's a Pepe with a wine glass, smiling at the camera, wearing a black bow tie. And in the image that was published on C Span right before Trump was escorted off, he is sitting there smirking. At the camera with a bow tie and a wine glass in front of him. The banner image for the account was a picture from a website called Time Machine, which they people believe you can overlap the Butler photo. Now, that last one, I think is a little bit silly, but it is funny that this black tie tuxedo Pepe profile picture from 2023 tweeted out Cole Allen. What I will say is we know the Tweet is from 2023. That being said, the image could have been updated whenever the profile banner could have been put. Whenever. A lot of people are claiming this is proof that Trump is a time traveler. And what do you guys think?

[Blair White]

Feel like I need a blunt to really understand this.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Adam Weiss]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Time.

[Blair White]

The picture, the profile picture. I feel like. Do we have any proof that that was there before the shooting?

[Tim Pool]

Maybe. Let me check.

[Blair White]

Because that would be kind of crazy. But also, I'm not necessarily seeing in the pixel part. I'm not necessarily seeing the argument.

[Tate Brown]

The argument is.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean? Look,

[Ian]

it's just.

[Tim Pool]

Here's Trump's fist.

[Blair White]

I can kind of.

[Tim Pool]

Here's his face.

[Blair White]

But the other people.

[Ian]

I don't know.

[Blair White]

Nah, I'm not the. I'm not seeing the other people. The other parts of the photo.

[Tim Pool]

And to be fair, my argument is, if you look at the original image. Let me get rid of that. Without Trump there it. There's another arm here. It could just be a guy doing this.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Raising his fist. And then they're deciding to overlay Trump Butler, saying it fits.

[Blair White]

Right. They're even kind of like rotating it to make it work. Like. But the name being tweeted is definitely interesting.

[Ian]

That's the weirdest thing.

[Tim Pool]

Well, Cole Allen's not an uncommon name.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

I did do a curse research, and there was, like, a lot of accounts made around that same time where kind of same naming convention, same kind of terminally online profile pictures. And then they would just tweet a random name. The one I saw said Jordan Patel.

[Adam Weiss]

You could flip his names to Thomas Cole Allen. Cole Allen, Thomas. It's easily distinguishable, Right?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. I think it was just like, you know, people just kind of. I mean, look, it's hard to index, like, all these dead accounts because they don't search. Like, they don't come up in searches. But there's a lot of these that are going around. So obviously someone just searched Cole Allen, scrolled to the bottom and.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then found it.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Adam Weiss]

It's like Trump's just sitting there so calm. He's so used to this. Right. His demeanor.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Metadata supports the tweet. The photo and the header were all created in 2023.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Because there's. I think the argument is because you can't use Grok on his profile, that means he hasn't logged in in a while. And then also, like, if you were mass leading tweets.

[Blair White]

Oh, so the picture was there.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

Oh, that's weird.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, now, the. The black tie Pepe is a known Pepe meme. It's just an interesting. It's just a combination of events.

[Blair White]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Which of course, proves Trump is a time traveler and went back to the 1800s to tell a story of his son to Ingersoll Lockwood. And you know the reason why? Those drawings of those weird machines. See this, this one right here? You see what happened was Trump went back to 1890 where Charles Delshaw, the artist, was sitting on his porch and he sees this strange vehicle, lands with Trump. And Trump gets out and goes, is this 1890? We're supposed to go to 1923? You went the wrong place. Get back in. And they get back in and leave. And the guy's going, oh, my God, I have to draw this. And it's funny because in the drawings, there's like a weird looking bust has Trump on it. And it sounds like something Trump would do. Like, if Trump made a time machine, like, would he put big Trump on the side? He probably would.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Blair White]

I think it could be proof that, you know, it's a simulation and, like, energy kind of flows and creates the synchronicities to make it seem like that.

[Tate Brown]

Trump himself is a very kind of middle age, Middle ages kind of character when he's beefing with the Pope. I mean, these are all like very.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this.

[Tate Brown]

Medieval kind of medieval.

[Blair White]

All his buildings are like old world style.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah. The way he conducts himself just kind of takes you back to it.

[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Pool]

They're like, it's a hundred year old sketch of some strange vehicle with Trump written on the side.

[Blair White]

I'm sorry, that's weird. And it would be gold. Oh my God. It would be. It looks like an old, like Mar a Lago car or something.

[Tim Pool]

It's like the tackiest thing. Yeah, that's what Trump would make his time machine look like. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Imagine he, he gets out 1300s and he's like, what's the most pressing issue of the Pope? I mean, the Pope's clearly out of line. So I got to get a. You know, he doesn't really hasn't quite figured out, you know, the modern political landscape. And I think that makes a lot of sense, actually, but.

[Tim Pool]

Arrow, arrow up Trump. Can someone just make an AI movie of like Trump traveling back in time with a dog? The dog's got to be like white with glasses on. You know what I mean?

[Ian]

Are these confirmed as a real 1800s?

[Blair White]

I think I've seen them before. What if it's more so proof of like reincarnation? Like Trump's just been here before.

[Ian]

It might be like he chose the name I think was Drumfus is his given name. His dad, I think changed his grandparents. His grandparents changed it to Trump.

[Blair White]

I think that's more likely than time

[Ian]

traveler, like a self fulfilling prophecy. Because if he, yeah, it might be. He might have seen stuff like this as a kid, you know, and been

[Tim Pool]

like, wow, Mr. Mr. Peabody and Sherman. That's that. That was the cartoon. Someone needs to make a Mr. Peabody and Trump.

[Ian]

I like that cartoon. I used to watch that was after

[Tim Pool]

Rocky and yeah, they go back in time or whatever they were.

[Ian]

It was like Rick and Morty but way before. It's not.

[Tim Pool]

It was not like Rick and Morty.

[Tate Brown]

It wasn't.

[Ian]

It was the closest thing to Rick and morty in the 80s, though.

[Tate Brown]

There's kind of some other indications that Trump could be like a time traveler again from this previous era. Like the fact that he has such reverence for the King of England, but then totally disregards the prime minister. Maybe he just assumes like, who's this joker anyway? I want to speak to the king. Where's the king? I need to Talk to the king. What a kir. Get out of here. I think that could be what's going on here.

[Blair White]

He talks a lot about the Golden Age, which is an old term used

[Tate Brown]

in the Victorian term.

[Tim Pool]

What if, like, the Mandela effect is just Trump screwing up accidentally? The timeline, like, they go. They go back in time to, like, the late 70s, 80s, and there's like, a manuscript for the Berenstain Bears, and he spills a coffee on it, and it, like, smudges the E. And he's like, oh, crap, we got to get out of here.

[Ian]

I brought my Adidas. I needed my Nikes for this run.

[Blair White]

I feel like he would be reckless about it, too. I feel like he would kind of mess up timelines and not really they,

[Tim Pool]

like, they do a time heist to save Nelson Mandela from dying in prison.

[Ian]

Dude, the real thing is time is. It's not an illusion. It's a. It's a measurement of motion. And, I mean, there are theories. We talked a little bit. I don't really know the scientific theory, but the time flows in two directions at once. It's not really like a. I think you said, Blair, our perception of motion is thus that we've written time and that we log with the things that have changed before. Before, Whatever that means.

[Blair White]

Yeah. Well, the way that quantum physics is looking at time more and more, like, recently, is that time, being linear, is just our perception. So, like, the way our brains perceive time is past and then present, right now and then future. But that's not necessarily how it goes.

[Ian]

And, like, people get divine downloads sometimes, which makes.

[Blair White]

Yeah, because they're kind of tapping it. And it's why, like, you know, you can have a dream of something and then it happens. You can have visions on a certain level, like, psychic is real.

[Tim Pool]

What if, like, time isn't like the straight line, but it's a mash that, like, flips around and folds? Right. So imagine that's what it is. Imagine in the 1700s, it's like. Like, imagine a fabric of time and it's waving and flipping around, right? And then you have the 1700s over here and 2020 over here.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then they brush against each other and then go back. And what happens is, in the 1700s, some guy builds a house, and it's like, you know, near a church or a cemetery or whatever. And he goes inside and he's standing upstairs and he's like, ah, built a brand new house. And all of a sudden he sees a translucent man in strange clothes. Look at him and go and then he goes, oh, it's cursed. And then he writes down how the house is cursed. Hundreds of years later, the story of the cursed house persists. And then in the year 2020, some dude is going to the cursed house, being like, this is the famous cursed house. And he goes upstairs. And then all of a sudden, a man from the 1700s appears, and he goes and screams. And what they don't realize is actually what happened was not ghosts, but that the fabric of time brushed past each other very briefly, and they both glimpsed each other in the same space before moving away. And they both assumed each other were the ghosts.

[Blair White]

And that goes into, like, the. The cycles of things, too. How you can look at, like, the 1920s, and you can look at, like, wow, there was, you know, a pandemic then, too. And, wow, it was the same kind of stuff going on before World War II. And, like, you can see the patterns in time because. Well, I'm just kind of.

[Tim Pool]

I think that's just that the writers are lazy and running out of ideas.

[Blair White]

Maybe that.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, World War II. Really? Do we need a sequel?

[Tim Pool]

I mean, well, we had 11. Apparently, you saw that Ilhan Omar in a year ago said World War 11 because she didn't understand that World War II was two. Yeah. You didn't see this.

[Tate Brown]

That was awesome. Such a relatable moment. I do that all the time.

[Blair White]

I'm like, here.

[Tim Pool]

She should be denaturalized and deported just for that, right? Here you go. Here you go.

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[Blair White]

Doing World War 11. The last time the alien enemies,

[Ian]

like, that's. You're supposed to memorize that.

[Blair White]

That's unbelievable to me. I'm sorry.

[Ian]

I want it to be a deep. I want to not believe 11.

[Tim Pool]

World War 11.

[Tate Brown]

She could be counting kind of these minor skirmishes as wars.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no, it's because we Write World War II in Roman numerals.

[Tate Brown]

I know, but maybe she thought that. Maybe she's like, you know, when you think about Korea, that was kind of World War iii.

[Tim Pool]

No, you know, I will. I will stress we're all laughing, but it would be funny if she actually privy to classified information. And there have been 11 world wars.

[Tate Brown]

Like, guys, I was kind of like, you know, grabbing my ear, and you didn't say, gee, or she's just retarded.

[Ian]

We should interview.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. But it's more fun to imagine that she accidentally let slip classified information. And There have been 11 world wars. We just don't know about them.

[Tate Brown]

That's. We had to keep an eye on Trump. He might let it like a Freudian slip. If he's a time travel. Like, he's like, Biden fumbled the Bactria withdrawal and it's like, I mean, Afghanistan. My bad, everyone. Sorry, that was weird. I could.

[Tim Pool]

No, I used to. My friends and I used to joke like, we all make fun of North Korea because they think Kim Jong Il was God or whatever and they believe dumb things. But we'd be like, what if that's what we are? What if we think that we are free and we make fun of North Korea, but. But actually we are the exact same as there. So I give you one of my favorite conspiracy theories. This is chicken coop theory. For those that are familiar with Fermi's paradox, I believe you are familiar with that. Ian Love it. All familiar with it. Fermi's paradox is a question. If the universe is so vast and large, then why have we not encountered any other signs of intelligent life? For which there are many, numerous conjectures? One is that there is intelligent life, but we can't communicate. They're too far away. One is that at any point intelligent life reaches a certain level, they destroy themselves with getting too much technology. And there's a bunch of others. One of them, my favorites, is the chicken coop theory. That is, Earth is effectively a chicken coop. Aliens are like humans do useful things like mining cobalt and gold. We can take that from them. We won't let them leave. And they effectively cage us in, in some way. And this plays into, you know, the fake moon landing and all of these things. People who believe that we never went to the moon, people believe that we can't go to space at all. This is a firmament. The chicken coop theory is that aliens don't really care what you do, live your life, just don't fight. So for instance, with a chicken coop, if you got a rooster that's causing problems, you will put blinders on them to try and stop fighting. Maybe that won't work, so you'll take them out or eat them. If a rooster is digging a hole, trying to escape, you'll come in and patch the hole, eventually get rid of some of the problems. So for the most part, you leave the chickens alone and take their eggs. Chicken coop Earth theory is that aliens or future people or interdimensional beings have us encaged here and we are blissfully, blissfully ignorant of everything else in the universe. We'll never know and we just live our happy little chicken lives. While we look at the chickens and laugh. But we're no different.

[Blair White]

Well, I. I think that it's, like, less about physical boundaries that we have. Like, they don't want us to go certain physical places, and more so, like, we clearly have met intelligent life. Even if you just think it's Asians, angels, and demons, that's, like, higher entities than humans. If you want to think it's aliens, a lot of people in the government are saying that we have. So I think it's more like they create boundaries on our mind and our spirit of, like, where we can go spiritually and mentally and intellectually. Like, it's more of like a inner prison.

[Ian]

Yeah, I felt ridiculed saying half the stuff I say out loud. Like, it. But a lot of it turns out to be real. Like, some of it's like, oh, there might be a spirit realm. Spirits actually could be real.

[Tim Pool]

But I sounded like there clearly is.

[Blair White]

I think that that's just, like, a fact of life. I don't even think that's up for debate. In my opinion, I wouldn't even care to debate it. It's like, there's clearly a spiritual reality to everything around us.

[Ian]

So you think the. The aliens or the. The spirits or whatever create mind prisons for the humans so that they don't get near their.

[Blair White]

That would be like demons controlling your thoughts and keeping you in a lower, you know, state of being. That's what the Bible says happens.

[Tim Pool]

Somebody asks, to what end? That's a stupid idea. That's right. Keep on clucking there, brother. Do you think the chickens understand you're taking their eggs from them? Sometimes with their broody. But for the most part, you've got chicken coops where, like, our first design for our old chicken coop, if they laid an egg, we could walk up behind the coop and open a hatch and the egg falls down and rolls. They have no idea where it went. They just lack the comprehensive, the comprehension. So humans have, like, I don't say half, but a bunch of them think the earth is flat. So when you're like, to what end? We mine gold, cobalt, other resources. I'm not saying chicken coop theory, Earth is true. I'm just saying aliens could be like, Jeffrey Epstein, we want your children, their food. You know what I mean? Like, and then he'd be like, oh. And most people are unaware. Do you think the chickens are aware of what I do? Like, when I walk into the coop, they're probably just like, I don't know, no idea what he's doing.

[Ian]

And It.

[Tim Pool]

He brings food sometimes.

[Blair White]

And I don't think it's even like, physical resources. I think it's like energy harvesting.

[Tim Pool]

It could be, but it could like, but hours. But that brings it to a level doesn't need to go. I mean, maybe it's as simple as gold. Aliens are like, humans will mine gold, and we want to use the gold for technology. So go get it for us.

[Blair White]

I think that's more complicated, though. The idea that there's, like, aliens that came from a different, you know, Zeta Reticuli or whatever, and it's like, about physical resources and physical.

[Tim Pool]

It could be interdimensional.

[Blair White]

Right. I. I just, I just, like, I.

[Tim Pool]

I think about it in terms of my chickens. Like, I don't care about their emotional state. I'm not draining their energy. I guess technically, with chicken city cameras making money off of their presence, we're kind of draining their energy or at least monetizing their.

[Tate Brown]

They're going to unionize one of these days.

[Tim Pool]

I think it would be like, I will eat them. I think I will eat the first one that tries to form a union.

[Ian]

Your firstborn.

[Tate Brown]

Well, because it's West Virginia. No, what I will do is California.

[Tim Pool]

I will take that chicken, I will fry it up, take its eggs and fry it and make a pad thai.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, that'll sound chicken.

[Ian]

And it's never born offspring.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I love about pad Thai in America because, like, they don't make that in Thailand. But, like, chicken pad Thai in America is the egg and the chicken together.

[Ian]

So I wonder if, like, the aliens or the spirit is trying to get humans to synchronize so that we can evolve our galaxy from a spiral into a spheroid. We've already collided with something. We have this plane. It's in the Milky Way, this flat plane that goes through the middle of our galaxy, indicating that we're about to become a spheroid galaxy, like either due to a past galactic collision, but something has. Has set us up, chained us up to go to the next phase of galaxy. I don't know if it's a purely energetic harvest or if they really want us to get gold. Because it's a superconductor to enhance the energetic conductance. Metallic. Like. I bet there's a synergy between the physical realm and the. The what lies beyond.

[Blair White]

Yeah, I think the. The physical realm, you know, spirit affects matter, and matter, you know, plays off of spirit. I think it, like, spirit. Spirit is just like a layer of what all of this is like the table spiritual I'm fearless. Well, you're spiritual. Like, the fact that we're on a podcast communicating with people all across the world is spiritual. So it's kind of like all of it is, right?

[Ian]

It's. It is also physical. Like the spirits are physical. It's just a higher frequency of physics.

[Blair White]

Right. Like, kind of like how technology is like indiscernible from magic and it's like, that's spiritual. So I think everything is.

[Ian]

Yeah, they. I think they're moving so fast that they seem invisible.

[Tim Pool]

So what, what makes the demons bad?

[Blair White]

Well, I think based on what they do to people or what they influence people to do or what they feed off of. So like if there's a demon influencing people to harm a child, then it would be, you know, for the sake of harming a child, that's like negative energy would be feed.

[Tim Pool]

What about a demon that's like, I can make you very, very rich.

[Blair White]

Well, that's never just going to be a gift, right? Like, if it was just a gift, that'd probably be like an angel or from God or something. If there's a trade off that requires you to do something negative, then that's. Then clearly what the demon would want is the negative thing.

[Tim Pool]

And what if a demon is like, I'm gonna give you a million dollars, but you gotta advocate for abortions?

[Blair White]

Well, then that, well, that's child sacrifice, which. There's a lot of demons that demand that.

[Ian]

Throughout history in the pagan realms back in, like the Celts, the Celtics, they.

[Tim Pool]

A lot of, they had a lot

[Ian]

of demons, like house demons. But demon wasn't evil. It just meant, look at all these feisty little creatures. And if you knew the difference between the demons, when they came to you, you know how to. This demon requires a bit of, you know, Brussels sprout. If you feed this demon Brussels sprout, it will bless your family with a bountiful harvest. But if you feed it anything other than Brussels sprout, it will poison your family. And so it's not like a. It's more of like a trick. Their trick. I don't know that it was less about good and evil and more about knowing what each demon is so that you can interact with it properly.

[Blair White]

Yeah. Like systematized. Like they had the pantheons of like, this is what this one wants and does, and this is the function of this one and that one. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Is this in the farmer's Almanac?

[Ian]

I don't know if, if, if Franklin went into it. Oh, wait, is that Ben Franklin? No, he was the other guy.

[Tate Brown]

He comes out every year. Like the. The updates. Like, ah, demon. There's a demon. Tony was really big on Brock.

[Ian]

I don't know if you guys ever read the. The demon book by. What is it, King David or. Not King David, it's some ancient demon.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[Ian]

What is that?

[Tim Pool]

You know, I'm talking about Necronomicon.

[Ian]

No, no, I never.

[Blair White]

There's a lot of demon books.

[Ian]

A book about demons.

[Adam Weiss]

You know, I'm talking.

[Tim Pool]

I just wanna. I just want to give a shout out. I don't know if you guys noticed the caption on the tweet. You want to read that, Ian?

[Ian]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[Tim Pool]

What did I write caption on the tweet?

[Ian]

Let me.

[Tim Pool]

I can't read that.

[Blair White]

It's a secret to everybody.

[Tim Pool]

What does that mean? Does anybody know Earth is a what?

[Ian]

Oh, I see that.

[Tim Pool]

Does anybody know what that means?

[Blair White]

Is it coded? What does it mean?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, do you know what that means?

[Blair White]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Nobody? No, nobody. What Scene beyond the chat is going to get very, very mad at all of you guys. Chat's going to blow up.

[Tate Brown]

It's a secret to every. Is this. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting for the show to catch up.

[Ian]

He's like, oh, my God, I know this one. I know this one.

[Blair White]

I even know.

[Tim Pool]

Of course they do. Every single person.

[Blair White]

Everyone but us knows.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it is a reference. Wait, what does that one say? Is anybody saying it yet? People are saying King Solomon. Are you serious?

[Ian]

King Solomon?

[Blair White]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Weiss]

I was trying to think of.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's a secret to everybody.

[Ian]

Oh, I don't think it has anything to do with what you took. What you type.

[Tim Pool]

It's a secret to everybody is from a Legend of Zelda. When you blow a hole in a wall and expose a moblin secret layer, he gives you money. And then it says, it's a secret to everybody. And Americans were like, what the. Does that mean? Like, I go into this room, he gives me money and says, it's a secret to everybody. That mean it wouldn't be a secret at all, because what actually happened is that in Japan, the actual Japanese is he says, keep this a secret from everyone, and he gives you money. The implication was that you found a secret hideout and he was paying you not to tell anybody. However, it's a secret to everybody.

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[Tim Pool]

accidental translation, which means something very interesting. Which now means it is something everybody knows, but no one will say that. Crazy.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

We accidentally translated Japanese wrong, and now we have a phrase that means everybody knows it, but no one says it.

[Ian]

I wonder how often throughout human evolution we've done that, misinterpreted someone, and then took it to the next level.

[Tim Pool]

Every single time. What the hell does used to mean? You ever think about that?

[Adam Weiss]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Try explaining English to someone and you say, like, this is the guitar pick I used to use on my old Spanish guitar. Used to use what is what?

[Tate Brown]

Oh, well, like, Americans will be sitting around going, no. Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What's up? Oh, yeah, I went to the.

[Ian]

And you're like, why'd you say no?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, no, I was reading something.

[Blair White]

Yeah, I was reading something the other day that was kind of talking about how, like, unsophisticated English kind of actually is compared to, like, older languages, about how, like, you know, when we're sad, we say, like, oh, I'm sad. When I'm we're happy, we say, I'm happy. Whereas, like, other languages, you know, translated will be like, I'm feeling happiness, I'm feeling sadness. So it makes everyone kind of more depressed because you're, like, calling yourself, like, the embodiment of like. Rather than saying, I'm feeling depressed today, it's like, I am depressed. Like, you're embodying it.

[Tate Brown]

And they totally funded in naming the insect fly. This was fly.

[Ian]

Yeah, I know.

[Blair White]

Lazy.

[Tate Brown]

I know. What are we doing?

[Ian]

The blueberry. Like, what? That's the blue one, I guess.

[Tate Brown]

Okay.

[Ian]

Yeah, the orange fly, dude. The orange.

[Tim Pool]

Hold on. You know the color orange word comes from the fruit, right?

[Ian]

I don't know that. I don't know what came first.

[Tim Pool]

But it's like how I'm telling you

[Ian]

right now that we're still call things orange.

[Tim Pool]

Lie was the name of the fruit. And the English thought when someone said a naran, they were saying an orange. And so the color orange comes from the fruit, not. They didn't. That's an orange fruit. Let's call it an orange, right? No, it's the way around. Wow. They actually didn't have that color. And they were like, oh, it's the color like orange.

[Ian]

To describe that. That, like that food that is so intrinsic in what we are, that we gave it a color. We named it the color. It is.

[Tim Pool]

And it's. Well, actually, it's really funny because naranj or naranja in Spanish means orange. And when the guy was saying in English, you'd say. And you say a naranj. So to an English speaker, it sounds like an orange. So they'd say orange.

[Ian]

Another good meme magic word is building. Like, what are you building a building? Like, what the.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, you call it meme magic.

[Tim Pool]

I guess.

[Ian]

So, like, what we. It's a verb that became a noun.

[Tim Pool]

No, it's just caveman grunting. That's what it is.

[Tate Brown]

I agree. That is a little. Let's get a new name. What should we call them?

[Tim Pool]

Structures.

[Ian]

There's so many ways.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, what are you building A built.

[Tate Brown]

I just don't get it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but also, like cow and bull. Those are just references to the gender of the animal of cattle. We just call them cows. I know.

[Ian]

It's kind of like not PC to talk about it on tv.

[Tim Pool]

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[Blair White]

That makes sense.

[Tim Pool]

Gage Ramsey, the same thing. It's because Cash is the only one that's not white.

[Blair White]

Better theory than I had, which was none.

[Tim Pool]

Billia. Bill says they made. They made a really critical error this time. You never endanger the wife of a madman. Oftentimes, she is the regulator to the madman's rage. You've been watching Daredevil, I imagine. Have you guys been watching Daredevil?

[Tate Brown]

I have not been.

[Tim Pool]

It's actually really good. The. The new. The new Daredevil season. Very impressed. There's spoilers, but there is a ref. I won't spoil it. I mean, this is last week's episode, but actually, no, I will because it was last week's episode. Wilson Fisk's wife dies. He's a kingpin and now he's gonna go insane and just massacre everybody because his wife died. There's nothing holding him back anymore.

[Ian]

I don't know enough about the Daredevil Universe.

[Tim Pool]

Brucen says Minocqua Brewing Company has a standing offer of free beer if Trump is assassinated. They posted on their social media they were disappointed on the failed attempt. There has been no media coverage. I've actually, I've seen a bunch on social media about that.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And they're like, in this, like, small Wisconsin town too. So. Yeah, you know, this idea that this is just resigned to Brooklyn or something or San Francisco, it's like. No, it's everywhere in the whole country.

[Tim Pool]

Ko says, I prefer the funny conspiracy theories like Flat Earth, not the psycho theories, like Trump faked an assassination to build a ballroom.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Literally.

[Tim Pool]

That's so stupid.

[Tate Brown]

Literally.

[Tim Pool]

We're gonna build this ballroom. I need someone to pretend to kill me.

[Tate Brown]

Okay, you're gonna ruin your life, but it's for the ballroom. I know you're a lifelong liberal and everything points to that, but you're gonna do this. He's like, okay, Mr. President, whatever it takes.

[Ian]

Every failed assassination attempt will potentially will desensitize people to the next failed assassination. So you don't want to use those things.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Octavia says, tim, they are just calling for a ballroom. Like Dems call for gun control. Plus our demo. Our demo calling for gun control now. You mean our Dems. I don't know. El Jefe Lopez says, but it's not fake when a conservative goes after a liberal, even though it's usually fake and gay. What is that a reference to? I don't know, Evan. For us, as. Could the high volume of searches for Cole Allen imply that people are trying to see what he looks like, maybe to see whether or not to woo over him? Well, I mean, maybe some people. The fact is, when people hear about this, they. The search term wasn't Trump assassination. The search term wasn't Trump shooter or White House shooter. The search term was Cole Allen. They were searching for more information on what was going on.

[Ian]

I want to see the words that pop up with his name. The most likely. Is it like Cole Allen Sundress? Like, what are people looking for?

[Tate Brown]

I think the way that the trend aggregator works is it consolidates all related terms into the most searched terms. So the most people were searching Cole Allen. Everything else got consolidated into that.

[Ian]

Probably Trump would be the next biggest word.

[Tim Pool]

Jay Hamblin says. Tim, to your point, on her filming herself, don't you have to swap your camera to front, front facing? Indeed you do. Which means that she opened her camera, switched it to her own face, and was, like, looking at it. It's like you're filming yourself. Why? Yeah, Are you gonna do a trick?

[Tate Brown]

You know, that would have been cool if she did a trick.

[Tim Pool]

She stands up and backflips.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

With the camera in her hand, the

[Tate Brown]

mantle is can't come up. So everyone, I got a show. That'd be great. That'd be fantastic. I'd support her.

[Tim Pool]

All right. I'm not your buddy. Guy says a reality we must face. They desire our deaths. Correct.

[Adam Weiss]

I don't like it.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, Hassan Piker said it over and over again. These people are psychotic.

[Ian]

Some people really are sometimes.

[Tim Pool]

John says the vehicle you keep calling a cyber truck an animal farm is clearly a Lamborghini there, Tim. No, there is a Lamborghin. That's one vehicle. She is in a silver cybertruck that's driving backwards. It is not a Lamborghini. It's got a short back, flat, like angled and then straight front. And if it was driving this way, you'd be like, that's a cybertruck. But it drives the other way. So it's like not a cybertruck. It has wheel wells too. Not a Lamborghini. The scene you're referring to is when Napoleon drives in a Lambo. And some people have said it looks pointed like a Tesla. But Elon Musk's mom in the film is driving a cybertruck for that. The Animal Farm production crew would not come to debate and the angel studio guys would not come to debate either. The movie is pro communist slop. Anti communist, anti capitalist. And I'll give you the quick rundown now here I did the full. I did a full rundown on my morning show channel. The film is about a bunch of happy animals living on a farm. The farmer can't pay his mortgage, so the bank sells the property to Frida Pilkington, Elon Musk's mom, who is going to liquidate the animals to a meat processing slaughterhouse to get to recoup some of the assets. Effectively a private equity deal or auction acquisition. The animals fight back and then promise the bank they will pay off the mortgage. So they all team up to raise money by selling their goods. When the pigs go to pay the mortgage off, the banker tells them they actually raised too much money and there's profit. So the pigs go shopping with the animals, get mad that all the excess labor, all their profit is being taken by the pigs. The main pig, Napoleon, then gets a credit card to pay off his all the car and the clothes that he buys, but finds out in order to pay off a credit card, you need magic paper, as they call it, every single month. So he enters into a private equity deal with Frida Pilkington to liquidate the farm's assets once again selling off the animals so she can build a hydroelectric dam that he'll get a clean payout on the animals, then plant a bunch of explosives in the dam, blowing it up, killing all of her employees, and then basically say it's better to have nothing that have these oppressors. So there's your movie and the end. All right, what do we got here? What is this? Mr. Bag 007 says, Tim, do you know about the agenda passed to enforce all new cars to essentially be government surveillance devices starting 2027?

[Blair White]

Terrifying.

[Tim Pool]

It's so far over the line and no one is talking about it. People need to know, is that where there's going to be cameras in the car facing you as you drive? Tesla's already do that. I saw that.

[Blair White]

Yeah, and Republicans voted for it too.

[Tim Pool]

Tesla's already do this. And so what people have done is they buy those Homer Simpson glasses that have fake eyeballs on them and you put it on and go to sleep. And the Tesla thinks you're driving.

[Ian]

It's crazy. Is it like if you run a red light, the car will pull over,

[Tim Pool]

You won't be driving the car at all. When by the time we get to that point, there will be no red lights, there will be no green lights. Every car will be automated and you will not be allowed to drive it.

[Ian]

Oh, but in the meantime, will it. Massey called it a kill switch bill. So I don't know if that means that the car literally remotely, it's that

[Tim Pool]

if you are driving and it notices your eyes are not looking, it'll pull over and stop or something like that.

[Ian]

And other, I don't know. I don't know the extent of the hour.

[Tim Pool]

The purpose of this bill is not. The purpose of this bill is not to create a draconian we're stopping your car. It is step one in creating an all autonomous driving circumstance. So the first thing you do is you have to create it in layers. You can't just be like, we hereby ban all personal vehicles. To get there, you have to go increments. So the first thing I'm going to do is going to say, we have a right to commandeer your vehicle in the event of emergencies. And people go, well, I guess that's fine. Sooner or later. And they'd be like, you're only allowed to drive in emergencies. So the car will drive itself and you can only grab the steering wheel if an emergency is happening. And then in 10 years, there will be no steering wheel because there'll be no emergencies. The cars will all have seats facing each other. You'll sit down and then you'll like,

[Ian]

you know, and they'll be like, remember, Citizen, you are in a constant state of emergency, emergency.

[Tim Pool]

And you won't own vehicles anymore. It'll all be Uber. It'll all be just apps.

[Ian]

Because of the foreign intervention and constant emergency, your rights have been curtailed.

[Tim Pool]

No, Ian, you will own nothing and you'll be happy. So what's going to happen is you won't own a car anymore. You'll go on your app and say, I need a car. And within minute, a minute, a car will pull up to your house. When you get in the car, there'll be no traffic because they're all synchronized by AI driving themselves. So as you're entering the highway, the cars slow down and speed up ever so slightly to create space for you to enter in. You never stop. And because the cars are all AI, they can start and stop instantly together. So there will never be traffic ever again. That's what they're trying to do.

[Adam Weiss]

Never be an accident either, right?

[Tim Pool]

Well, there will be accidents due to weather, so there could be an ice patch an automatic car can't do anything about. But when a car recognizes traction problems, all the cars can instantly swarm out of the way. So it spins and all the cars just. Isn't that crazy.

[Ian]

It'll reduce pile ups because the cars will know if there's something up ahead, like birds, maybe it'll be able to track birds.

[Tim Pool]

There'll be big charging stations where they've already discussed wireless charging for vehicles, where the car can pull over a base with wireless charging plates and just sit there and it gets blasted.

[Ian]

They did that in England. There's like a 10 mile stretch at least 10 years ago where they were experimenting with. The car will charge as it drives this 10 mile.

[Tim Pool]

So there's going to be cars constantly in charge, being dispatched. You'll open the app and you'll just get a car and it'll bring you where you want to go and then you'll pay, you know, Uber fees. No driver is fully automatic. No one will own cars anymore. And it also gets rid of trains, it gets rid of buses.

[Ian]

Seems too, too good to be true. I was told once by a great man, if it seems too good to

[Tim Pool]

be true, why does it seem too good to be true?

[Tate Brown]

What do we do with all the Bangladeshis how do you get to the mountains with that?

[Ian]

You need.

[Tim Pool]

It drives you all the way.

[Tate Brown]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know if it can yet. Yes, they can. 100 you will select. You will select Auto XL and it'll be like 4x4. It's like, I'm going camping, I need the vehicle. And then you'll be, I need to reserve the vehicle for the weekend. And it'll go bing and it'll be like, the car's coming.

[Ian]

What if you want to go off road?

[Blair White]

That'll also kind of like remove the possibility of like exploration for most people. It's like, will you be able to offroad where you be?

[Tim Pool]

No, because you'll live in your 15 minute city. You can't leave.

[Blair White]

Exactly. So it's, it's still limiting your human potential, which goes back to like demons. You can look at it like that too. Like demons controlling people. It's like they put limits on your mind of what you can do.

[Tim Pool]

We're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button, share the show and all the good stuff. It's gonna [e-mail] Timcast IRL. Don't miss it. But in the meantime, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast Adam, do you want to shout anything out?

[Adam Weiss]

Well, thanks for having us and we'll catch you on the Rumble Channel and quite a weekend here that we went through and we're glad that the President's safe. And thanks for having us, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. You want to shout anything out, Blair?

[Blair White]

I guess just my YouTube, my social media. Just Google me and you'll find me.

[Ian]

Yeah, I want to push people over to your. Your Twitter page, Adam.

[Adam Weiss]

It's a Adam Matthew, please follow me there or Adam5PR on Instagram. I do a lot of stories. You'll see my activity more on Instagram.

[Ian]

I've been feeling kind of more Gen

[Adam Weiss]

Z, so I'm more of an Instagram.

[Tate Brown]

I love it.

[Ian]

My mood lately has been kind of like I'm trying to like force myself to love other people again. I've been really internally focusing on myself and improving myself, but to the detriment. And I wonder if that has something to do with like, you know, me, Matt. Like if it. I don't know, I just gotta find love for others. And anyway, that's where my head's at. Tate Brown, talk me out.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, Exit Instagram realtate Brown and I know a few English MIS translations, as in they were in one language and now we say something completely separate. So join the after show and I'll disclose a few of them that I can remember off the top of my head.

[Tim Pool]

Carter yeah, excited to get into the after show. You can follow me on X at

[Ian]

Carter Banks and on Instagram at Carter Banks official follow our label at Trash

[Tim Pool]

house Records on YouTube and thanks Blair

[Ian]

and Adam for coming out. Let's get into the after show.

[Tim Pool]

We'll see you [e-mail] Timcast IRL right

[Blair White]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Blair White]

So I think it's really important that companies stay flexible.

[Tim Pool]

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[Blair White]

consuming but it doesn't have to be.

[Ian]

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