Trump To Deploy ICE Tactical Units Across US As LA Riots WORSEN, HUNDREDS Arrested w/ Anthony Brian Logan

Summary

Timcast IRL Episode Summary: "Trump To Deploy ICE Tactical Units Across US As LA Riots WORSEN, HUNDREDS Arrested w/ Anthony Brian Logan"

Release Date: June 12, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guest: Anthony Brian Logan

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1. Expansion of LA Riots and ICE Deployments [01:20 - 07:00]

Tim Pool opens the episode by addressing the escalating situation in Los Angeles, where protests have intensified nationwide, leading to hundreds of arrests. The White House confirmed that since immigration sweeps began in LA last week, 113 individuals have been taken into custody, with about a third having prior criminal convictions ([04:34]).

Notable Quote:

"These are basically like SWAT-ish kind of guys deployed to several different Democrat sanctuary cities, which will make Democrats very angry." — Tim Pool [04:53]

Anthony Brian Logan provides insights into the political maneuvers behind the protests, suggesting that Democrats anticipated this unrest following a rift between Elon Musk and Trump ([06:03]).

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2. Media Narratives and Public Perception [07:00 - 12:00]

The discussion shifts to how media portrays the riots. Zoe Saldana (featured in ad segments and not part of the main conversation) is skipped as per instructions. Phil Labonte and Anthony Brian Logan critique mainstream media’s handling of the events, arguing that the narrative downplays violent actions by protestors and unfairly attributes blame to Trump ([11:07]).

Notable Quote:

"The narrative now they're pushing is that there were no riots, that they were just people peacefully dancing, omitting the actual violence that occurred." — Tim Pool [11:07]

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3. Immigration Policies and Shifting Voter Sentiments [12:00 - 23:00]

Tim Pool delves into the impact of Trump's immigration policies, highlighting a significant shift among immigrant voters towards the Republican Party. Citing polls, he states that from 2020 to 2025, there has been a 40-point swing with immigrant voters now favoring Republicans by 8 points ([22:08]).

Notable Quote:

"Immigrant citizens themselves have increasingly liked Donald Trump and have increasingly moved to the right on immigration into the Republican camp." — Tim Pool [22:57]

Anthony Brian Logan emphasizes the economic implications of deporting illegal immigrants, suggesting that it could lead to higher wages and a more balanced economy as companies can no longer rely on cheap labor ([56:36]).

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4. Civil Unrest and Potential for Civil War [35:50 - 51:17]

The conversation turns to the alarming reports from sources like the Mirror, which sensationalize the potential for a civil war stemming from the current unrest. Tim Pool references opinions from experts like Rudyard Lynch, who predicts that a civil war could occur in the next few years, leading to a militaristic American empire ([37:08]).

Notable Quote:

"We will see a civil war before this man is through. The right will win, and by the end of this century, we will have an empire." — Tim Pool [37:08]

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5. DNC Internal Strife and Leadership Changes [90:37 - 87:54]

Tim Pool reports on the Democratic National Committee's (DNC) removal of David Hogg and Malcolm Kenyatta from their vice-chair positions due to procedural errors related to gender parity rules. The hosts express skepticism about the fairness of these actions, suggesting underlying motives related to race and ideology ([84:00 - 87:54]).

Notable Quote:

"Malcolm Kenyatta has been removed because they're racist and didn’t want a black man to be a DNC vice chair." — Tim Pool [87:29]

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6. International Tensions: US, Israel, and Iran [60:03 - 75:19]

The episode shifts focus to international affairs, discussing the US withdrawal of diplomats from Iraq amid rising tensions between Israel and Iran. Tim Pool warns of the dangers of potential military conflict, emphasizing that such actions could drag the US into a broader war with Iran ([70:00 - 75:19]).

Notable Quote:

"The big concern now is the prospect of a war with Iran kicking off soon, which could escalate into a larger conflict." — Tim Pool [71:50]

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7. The Rise of AI and Its Societal Impacts [93:00 - 120:00]

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the increasing role of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in society. The hosts debate the implications of AI in entertainment, job automation, and personal interactions. They express concerns about AI's ability to replace human creativity and empathy, potentially leading to a diminished human experience ([93:00 - 120:00]).

Notable Quote:

"As AI automates most white-collar jobs, we’re entering an attention economy where holding people’s attention becomes paramount." — Tim Pool [112:43]

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8. Closing Remarks and Audience Interaction [120:00 - End]

In the final segments, Tim Pool engages with audience messages, discussing topics like black bear behavior and personal anecdotes about encounters with law enforcement. The episode concludes with a mix of humor and serious commentary on current events, reinforcing the show's commitment to uncensored discussions ([120:00 - End]).

Notable Quote:

"When facing a black bear, you intend to fight back because they see you as prey, whereas grizzlies might walk away if you’re not a threat." — Tim Pool [50:00]

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Insights and Conclusions

• Policy Impact: Trump's immigration policies are reshaping voter sentiments, particularly among immigrant communities, leading to a notable shift towards the Republican Party.

• Media Critique: Mainstream media narratives are being challenged for their portrayal of civil unrest, with claims of bias and omission of critical details.

• Internal Party Dynamics: The DNC faces significant internal challenges, including leadership changes that may reflect deeper ideological and racial tensions within the party.

• International Relations: Rising tensions between Israel and Iran pose potential risks for US involvement in broader conflicts, with strategic troop withdrawals aimed at de-escalation.

• AI Influence: The growing presence of AI in various sectors raises concerns about job displacement, loss of human creativity, and the transformation of social interactions.

Final Thoughts: The episode underscores the complexities of current political and social issues, emphasizing the interplay between policy decisions, media narratives, and emerging technologies. Tim Pool and his guests advocate for informed, independent perspectives to navigate the rapidly evolving landscape.

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Disclaimer: This summary is based solely on the provided transcript and does not reflect real events or statements beyond the knowledge cutoff in October 2023.

Transcript

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[Tim Pool]

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[Anthony Brian Logan]

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And there we go. I'd like to thank Windows for automatically updating and disabling our audio settings as they frequently do. We learned this trick, you guys, whenever there's like the show starts as an audio glitch and it happens periodically coincides directly with a Windows update. How about that? So we got big news. Hundreds of arrests in la. Hundreds of arrests across the country as the LA riots have expanded nationwide and are intensifying. And I think we're going into. What are we on? Is it tonight? Night six.

[Phil Labonte]

Six. Six.

[Tim Pool]

Night six. Donald Trump is deploying tactical ice units. These are basically like. Basically like, you know, SWAT ish kind of guys. To several different Democrat sanctuary. Sanctuary cities and jurisdictions which can only, I can only imagine will, I don't know, make Democrats very angry. Angrier than they already are, I guess. So we can see this is starting to heat up. And I think this was planned. Democrats knew this was going to be the protest plan. In fact, Rudyard lynch told me earlier today was a great point. They waited until Elon and Trump had a rift and they could see there was a split between elements in the right before they started escalating these protests. So we will see. But we do have a lot of other big news. The other story is that the US Is evacuating embassies across the Middle east as there are fears Israel will strike Iran and then we may be dragged into that conflict as Iran then strikes against us. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got a bunch of other news. David Hogg has been fired by the dnc. You love to see it. I don't know how these people win at 20, 26 or 28 for that matter, but maybe they'll surprise me. Before we get started, my friends, make sure you go to cast brew.com pick up some delicious Cast Brew coffee. It's the best coffee. Everybody agrees. At least that's what I've been told. We got Appalachian Nights. We got graphene Dream Low acidity coffee. That's Ian's. We got Coffee pods. Don't forget we've got even decaf options. Sleepy Joe. I know he's not president anymore, but it's still funny and unwoke. Check that out@cast brew.com and don't forget to smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know we are going to have a a blast today. But we also I want to shout out boonieshq.com make sure you go to Boonies HQ, pick up your 28th amendment skateboard. We've got our step on snack and find out skateboard it's going to be. These are great. You hang them on your wall. Joining us tonight talk about this and so much more is Anthony Brian Logan.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Glad to be here. Long time coming. Hey, shout out to the chat because my chat has been dying for this opportunity for many years. So shout out to you guys watching. I appreciate y' all and shout out y' all for having me, man. I'm loving it already. Loving the environment.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Well, I'm a conservative political commentator on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch. Not Twitch yet. Twitter everywhere. I'm on there. That's pretty much I do similar to what you do.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. Should be fun. Thanks for hanging out on we got Brett hanging out.

[Zoe Saldana]

Guys, what's going on? And glad to see a longtime viewer of your content.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Thank you, man. Appreciate you.

[Zoe Saldana]

Let's go.

[Phil Labonte]

Who are you?

[Zoe Saldana]

I'm Brett. See, I was like last time I was like, do you just do the, the, the intro at the end? Just. Guys, pop culture crisis. Monday through Friday, 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time. That's where I normally am. I thought we just get the show going quicker this time.

[Phil Labonte]

How you doing My name is Phil labonte. I'm the lead singer the heavy metal band all that Remains on Inside Communist and Account. I'm Revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the story from the LA Times. Immigration raids intensify with hundreds of arrests and tense moments across the LA area. Check this out. The White House confirmed On Wednesday at 330people have been taken into custody by federal authorities since immigration sweeps began last week in Los Angeles. White House press secretary Carolyn Levitt said of those 113 individuals, about a third of the group or about a third of the group had prior criminal convictions. Indeed, following this, ICE will be deploying tactical agents in Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York and Northern Virginia. Post, Post Millennial reports. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is preparing to deploy Special Response Teams SRTs to five urban areas. Seattle, Chicago, Philly, New York, North Virginia as chaos is, is erupting in these Democrat rung run cities. An exact timeline for the deployment remains unclear, but the order to stand by has already been issued to all srt, all special response teams in the affected areas. And I think it's gonna, it's gonna light up this weekend. Curfew is still in place in Los Angeles. I heard that they actually made several arrests. There were some mass arrests after the curfew was enacted last night. And don't forget, we're gonna have the no Kings protest this weekend, sponsored of course by Christy Walton, which is triggering a boycott from maga, brought to you by Walmart. Indeed, indeed. I don't know. What do you guys think?

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, no, the, the left was boycotting Target because they were getting rid of DEI policies. So all the big box stores are suffering right now.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, apparently. I think that, I think the, the possibility for a new Summer of Love is actually materialized. I was a little skeptical about when, whether or not there was going to be something that had the impulse. I still don't think that this is going to be as widespread as this. Should there be, you know, a lot more, should these riots carry on? Should it be a lot more widespread? I still don't think that it'll have the cultural impact as the 2020 did because of the George Floyd riots and because of the fact that again, people have to go to work and when you shut the country down and you have people that can go out and do, you know, a little bit of fun activism, throw stuff, maybe get arrested by the cops, have a little fire in the street, you know, people will do that because they're bored.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah. I also think that one of it is like There was a very, very iconic visual image. Like the image of what happened to George Floyd was so embedded in people's minds. It was such a drast, you know, such a awful thing to look at. You know, whatever you think of what happened, that was a very, very stirring visual image. And that led to a lot of what you saw.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That, that was the key, that was the key thing. The knee on the neck that went, that drove viral. But now it's not really that kind of image. It's just the idea of a so called immigrants being kicked out.

[Phil Labonte]

And to that point it's actually a situation where the images that are coming out are positive towards the, you know, the conservative perspective. Americans don't like to see foreign foreigners waving foreign flags, fighting with our police officers. They just don't like to.

[Tim Pool]

What, what, which country would allow that?

[Phil Labonte]

None.

[Tim Pool]

Let's, let's, let's try maybe Costa Rica.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You want to be on the beach by yourself with an American flag.

[Tim Pool]

Hey look, you know the countries with.

[Phil Labonte]

The least like functional governments, countries like Haiti and countries like possibly Somalia. You hear those countries mentioned even they wouldn't put up. No, like you're going to get literally chopped up in pieces and thrown on a barbecue in Haiti and Somalia. You know, the local warlord isn't going to put up with it if you're waving his opposing malicious flag.

[Tim Pool]

You know, you're.

[Phil Labonte]

And they'll do things that are far more terrible to you there than are going to happen here. And that's probably why you won't see anyone testing the limits there with whereas.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You will hear even in their own home country, okay, you're flying the flag of X country. Can you go to your country and do that, what you're doing here?

[Phil Labonte]

No, no.

[Zoe Saldana]

I suppose one of the things they do have to worry about is as this goes on and as violence intensifies, they have to worry about some type of police action getting taken too far and then getting clipped and then being shown in a specific way if something goes horribly wrong and somebody does die middle of these protests at the hands of law enforcement. And it's clipped the way that the left would like to clip these things, which is not to show inciting incidents, only show the aftermath of what happens. That runs the risk of being another visual image that could be very powerful if it's shown to people on the Internet.

[Tim Pool]

Yo, it was, it was crazy. I was watching the Five today and Jessica Tarlov was just, was lying. She was like Trump's underwater, is polling's miserable. He's like minus 12 on immigration. And I was like, what? I track this stuff all day, every day. I read all the aggregate polling, and he's doing massively. His aggregate polling is about minus 2.6, so it's within the margin of error. That's really good. And on immigration, he's net positive in aggregate across the. It's crazy. They cherry pick a singular poll that gives them the results they want, then go on TV and go, can you believe how bad Trump is doing? And the crazy thing is that Jesse didn't yell at her.

[Phil Labonte]

Part of me feels bad for Jessica in, in the, in that context, just because she's the, you know, the, the chew toy for all the Republicans. They just beat her up all the time.

[Tim Pool]

And maybe she shouldn't, you know, spread misinformation.

[Phil Labonte]

I, I agree. The, the point that I'm making though is, is when you're in that situation, you have to be right and you can't spread misinformation like Tim was saying, you can't.

[Tim Pool]

So you're saying just be a conservative.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, it's, that's not exactly what I was saying, but it's, it would functionally, would probably be about the same.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

But the media always does that. They always put out a fake story or misleading information. Maybe they retract it a year later, six months later, but by the time you see the retraction, it doesn't matter because the initial story is what is stuck in the minds of the people.

[Zoe Saldana]

And it's very hard to get people to change their mind about something once they believe it. You know, the, the first way they hear it is always, it's, as Tim's brought up multiple times about the very fine people hoax is that when people are showed concrete evidence that what they were told was a lie, they cling on to what they believe even harder because they don't. Your brain can't handle that. A lot of the time you have kind of come to those conclusions on your own. Like, if you, if you're ever somebody who's like, made some type of journey politically from either the left to the right or even, I guess if you're somebody who's gone from the right to the left, I'm sure that that does happen is that you don't get there by your friends necessarily saying, look at this, this is what's true. It's, you go, you know, you have slightly open mind and you go looking for information.

[Tim Pool]

And I, I, I just think at this point, it's a cult, you know, as I'VE stated numerous times, but I think more so now because several people I know are, they all know the talking point. And I'm, I'm, I'm saying right now there are people that I know that I've known for a long time and I'm seeing them post about this and they are intentionally lying as well. Now, like it's not just the TV personalities and the prominent liberals in media. It's, it's ground level grassroots liberal individuals intentionally lying. So the narrative now they're pushing is that there were no riots, that they were people peacefully playing music and dancing. And then Trump called in the National Guard and started shooting people. They're omitting the waymos being torched and burned. They're omitting the SUV's getting pelted with rocks and smashed up and set on fire. They're omitting the people taking over the highways. They're omitting the far left, pelting the federal HQ where ICE was with rocks to stop them from getting out. And they're just saying, no, it was just people were dancing and then Trump attacked them. It's, you know, you know, it reminds me of, remember when Jack Basoma got punched and the cops watched it happen. And then some woman walks and goes, I saw everything. Nobody hit him or. No, no, she said, she said something like, I didn't see anything. And she just looks smugly into the camera. That's what they all do from the bottom up. They are just, it's just a cult.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, you're mentioning the, the fact that it's, you know, they're extreme, exceedingly dishonest is probably a charitable academic way to put it. Yeah, it's a charitable way to put it. And I just, just saw this on, on Twitter. X Rolling Stone is saying that the no Kings protest, the headline says protest. Millions of Americans are expected to head to the streets on June 14 to oppose Trump's dictator style birthday parade. What exactly.

[Tim Pool]

Like they. Flag Day.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's Flag Day. It's also the 250th birthday of the US Army. Like there are multiple things going on.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, there's nothing the left hates more than celebrating the American flag.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yeah, absolutely, it's true. But the point is like the, if I was on maybe, I mean, maybe the no Kings protests or whatever the demonstrations are in response to this, this parade. Because this parade's been, you know, he's been talking about it, I think he was talking about on the stump last year as well. But, but, but still, they can't get their message together. They don't even know what they're angry about. These protests or demonstrations are taking off nationwide, and they're not really sure what they're protesting other than Donald Trump. And clearly, these protests are gonna merge in with the no Kings, and they'll be like, oh, this is just us rising up. But against what? Against the government enforcing the law that is broadly popular with the American electorate.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Right.

[Zoe Saldana]

Half of those people are lying, and the other half don't understand that what happened is far more complicated than what they're being shown. Right. So if you're gonna go for, for instance, over the Fourth of July, and you're gonna go see family come armed with the videos of. Of the, you know, the bricks off the bridge and the waymos burning and all of the violence that's happened, because they're not. They will have not seen any of that. They didn't pay attention to any of that. And if they did, it was in the context of some talking head on the screen telling them this has been a mostly peace. They're just out there having fun bonfires. That's what they were doing. They were having bonfires on the waymos.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Peaceful bonfires.

[Zoe Saldana]

Peaceful bonfires.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, that made me think on racist waymos.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, you know, now it's okay. They're stealing jobs from. From the right.

[Tim Pool]

The waymos are stealing jobs from the people who cook our food and cooking our toilets.

[Zoe Saldana]

Look who drives.

[Phil Labonte]

Look who drives Ubers. They're almost always immigrants. They're stealing. Waymo is stealing jobs from immigrants.

[Tim Pool]

That's a good point. You know, and when you did, there was this video that went viral of this Asian woman in a taxi, and she's like, if you don't care about families being ripped apart, then maybe you care about being selfish. Don't you know that all these illegal immigrants. And then she goes through this, like, list of they're more likely to clean your toilet and cook your food and do construction. And I was just like, democrats want slaves. Yeah. She outright says in this video that these people can't vote, they get low pay, they get no benefits, and we love it. And I'm like, I don't send them home.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

It's the same exact thing they did from the beginning. They. They freed the slaves, and then they've been mad about it ever since.

[Tim Pool]

They're trying to find another way to get it. Basically, they're like, bring in illegal immigrants. Joe Biden literally did this. He created probably One of the largest slave classes in anywhere in the world. What he did was brings in millions of non citizens, has the cbp, then give them their hearings for their asylum, you know, status, and then drops all the cases, creating de facto permanent residency with no rights. So now you have people who get paid dirt to work, to work low skilled jobs, no benefits, no recourse, no unions, no osha, none of those protections. And that's what the Democrats have been doing. They've been desperate for their slaves back.

[Zoe Saldana]

I mean, unless you're in California where they want to give you the right to vote and $9.5 billion and D.C. as well, in D.C. as well.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That's crazy. Totally crazy. But it's that permanent underclass of people that they want to have. You know, you do all the jobs, the dirty jobs, all that kind of stuff. It's for y' all. So that's why I kind of get offended when they say, oh, they do the jobs that Americans don't want to do. It's like, no, you guys don't want to do those jobs. I have no problem doing those jobs.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they don't want to do any jobs.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

They don't want to do anything.

[Tim Pool]

You saw that guy and he was like, oh, no work in that video.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That was a terrible video. Awful. I did that guy.

[Phil Labonte]

Depends on what's wrong with these four.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it's crazy to me because you. I, I can see the psychological disorder in that man. For those that aren't familiar, there's this video going viral. Black woman is arguing with these protesters saying, like, I need to get to work, like, what about my kids? And then Savannah Hernandez asks this white guy who's blocking the car, and she's like, how do you feel about blocking a black woman from going to work? And he goes, oh, no, work. It's crazy to me because I want to work all the time, nonstop. Everything I do, I'm working, I wake up, I work, I eat food, skate, and then I work. But these people have some kind of fractured mind derangement where they literally are the. They want to do the opposite. And I'm like, how have we cultivated generations, plural, of this kind of person.

[Zoe Saldana]

Who just has no desire to work whatsoever?

[Tim Pool]

And I want to stress, I'm not talking about. Oh, it's, it's like what they end up saying is, so you can make some billionaire rich. And it's like, dude, sell beads, man. Like, sit in the court, put a blanket on the ground and sell beads. These people don't want to do anything.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, right. The, the, the cop out of all, you know, I'm going to make my Boss Rich or etc. Etc. If you're going to work and, and you're focused on that, like, I, I feel like. Well, I mean, I'm not sure why you would focus on that, but like, your needs must be met.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

If you, if you can say, oh, I'm making this other guy rich, then you must be making enough money so that way you have time to think about things. Like, man, it's. I'm not, I'm not getting as much as I want to get.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, they think that in the communist revolution that they will be the one who makes the art.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That's what they all think. They all think that way. It's like, no, you're going to get shot first, actually. Yeah, don't worry about it.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, no, I mean, even if not that, you'll be sent to the mines, you'll be sent to work.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but this is historically correct. The revolutionaries, the first to be removed after a revolution because they are the biggest threat to the new power structure.

[Zoe Saldana]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. I was talking to Rudyard lynch earlier and he was making the point that, you know, the French Revolution revolution was incoherent. This is what leftists and communists tend to do. They have no coherent framework. And so it just tends to be chaos when they end up overthrowing a country.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, and that's, that's the goal. That's why the, the revolution is constant, is because the revolution, as they install the new power base or whatever, invariably has hierarchy, has all kinds of things that the left just says are bad and stuff. And so you have to have a constant revolution because all existing hierarchies will calcify and become oppressive and stuff. So there has to be a consistent revolution. That's why you had. Cuba had. The revolution was ongoing and they were. Well, today, 40 years after the revolution.

[Tim Pool]

The Venezuelan government calls it the revolution. So, I mean, it's been decades. And when I was, I was there 10 years ago and they said that I was a threat to the revolution. And it's like, it's been 20 years. What revolution you're talking about? It's ongoing. It never stops. And it's because when they say evil dictator is bad, man, fascists are bad. But then remove all of that and they're in control. They have to keep telling you, no, no, they're still here, you know, somewhere lurking, ready to bring fascism back.

[Zoe Saldana]

Oddly enough, it's the same way that, like, nonprofits work, which is that if they actually achieve their, they don't need to exist anymore. If you're a charity, like if you're looking to, to cure some disease, you don't actually benefit from curing the disease because then you're not making any money for the executives anymore.

[Tim Pool]

Well, yep, I, I told this, I heard a story a long time ago and I'm going to leave the company out of it. But everybody who knows me knows the name of the company. But a shoe company, I met a guy who said he was a, he was like a mid level manager VP and he quit because they said we're not selling enough shoes because they last too long. Is there a way we can make them fall apart faster? Can we remove a certain percentage of the material from the soul perhaps? And he was like, are you, is this a joke? And they were like, people are wearing their shoes for months. What do we do? And he's like, make a good shoe. It's nope, that's not the way it works. Let's jump to this story from the post. Millennial CNN data analyst sees tremendous 40 point shift among immigrants to GOP on the issue of border security and ICE enforcement. Yes indeed, my friends. It just so happens that almost all of the people who are complaining are white liberal women. And maybe that's why Kate Bolden was struggling through this segment with Harry. And start off on the fact that immigrant citizens, immigrant voters, foreign born voters have gone tremendously to the right on this issue in 2024 and 2025 versus where they were in 2020 closest to her trust borne immigration. You go Back to, to 2020 Democrats get this, held a 32 point lead on this issue. Immigrant voters were in the Democratic camp. Jump forward to 2024, 2025. Look at that shift. A 40 point shift to the right among immigrant voters. Republicans now lead on this issue by 8 points over Democrats, more so than any other group that I could find. The group of voters who became more hawkish on immigration where in fact immigrants themselves, immigrants were registered to vote in this country. Democrats. That's called being on the right side of history. Well, that's on that issue.

[Phil Labonte]

How about how they feel about kind of traditionally, historically about Donald Trump.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So you know, you see this shift and you go, what is going on underneath the hood? Well, take a look. Donald Trump, you remember when he first ran back in 2016, immigrant voters are.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

One of his weakest bucks.

[Tim Pool]

But look at this. Trump's vote share in presidential elections among again, immigrant citizens, those who are registered to vote. Look at this. 2016, he got 36% of the vote. You go to 2020, 39% of the vote. Look at this. In 2024, all the way up to.

[Phil Labonte]

47% of the vote.

[Tim Pool]

Some polls I looked at had him barely losing that vote.

[Phil Labonte]

Some polls I looked at had him.

[Tim Pool]

Barely winning that vote. Again, there is no block of voters that shifted more to the right from 2020 to 2024 than immigrant voters. And Donald Trump, at least in some surveys, actually won that vote. On average, it's about equal. So there may be all this stuff.

[Phil Labonte]

Right, about undocumented immigrants and trough being.

[Tim Pool]

Harsh on them, but immigrant voters themselves have increasingly liked Donald Trump and have increasingly moved to the right on immigration into the Republican camp.

[Phil Labonte]

Well then on that, what you're getting at, how, how, how immigrant, how immigrant citizens voters feel about people in the country illegally. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And this is where it all kind of comes together. Kate Baldwin, look at this. The net favorable rating, immigrants who are here illegally among immigrant citizens.

[Phil Labonte]

Again, those registered to vote in 2020.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this. Plus 23 on the favorable rating.

[Phil Labonte]

But look at where we were in.

[Tim Pool]

2024, minus six points underwater. So immigrant citizens have become increasingly unfavorable in their views of those immigrants who are here illegally. So I think it's so important when we're talking about this debate from a political angle to separate.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Zoe Saldana]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Anthony Brian Logan]

It's lavender.

[Tim Pool]

I'm good.

[Zoe Saldana]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

Oh, mints.

[Tim Pool]

Really, I'm fine. Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the car.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

Undocumented immigrants versus those who are here legally.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. It took them only 10 years to figure out that not all immigrants are illegal and that the people who come here legally, they tend to be successful. They tend to work really, really hard. You know what's fascinating is when you look at Filipino and Nigerian immigrants in the United States who come here legally, they have very high salaries.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Hard working people who did everything right to come to this country. They believe in it. Or as Serge was talking about before the show, South African refugees enter the country waving the American flag. Actual American citizens living in California wave the Mexican flag.

[Zoe Saldana]

It's so weird to me too, because this is something that felt very, very easy for people to understand, which is that it's not cheap to move to this country. It's a difficult process to move to this country. Having to take a test to understand the ethics of America, its history. It's not something you undertake lightly. It's something you do because you theoretically you believe in what that country stands for. So why wouldn't somebody who works that hard, who put that much money, time and effort to come to a new country want to wave its flag? And to not understand the difference between that and someone who comes here without having to do any of that, to not understand why that person would be upset at the guy who's skipping the line is patently insane. Nobody outside of the stupidest people on earth would be like befuddled by this.

[Tim Pool]

You should see what I do when someone skips the line with me at 7:11.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh man. Like people, people got to understand the issue. Legal versus illegal. I don't understand why people don't want to address that. Mainstream media. If you're here legally, I love you. No problem. You following the law illegally. That's where we got the problem.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah. And they make it a race issue too. It's like, look, if there's a dude here from east, from Eastern Europe that did that, skip the line. I don't want them here either.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Any color, I don't care.

[Zoe Saldana]

It doesn't matter.

[Phil Labonte]

Clear definitions are, are bad to the left because they can't use the, the gray area to sneak past the rules. I think don't want the rules.

[Tim Pool]

I got ragged on by, by a bunch of liberals like a year or two ago because I Told a story about how Alison. I went to a restaurant, and we were. We walked up and said, you know, table for two. And they said, it'll be a few minutes. And I said, okay. And then they seated like three different couples before us who had just walked in. And I was like, what's going on? Like, why are these people getting seats? We've been sitting here waiting for like 20 minutes now. And they were like, sorry about that. And I was like, nah, I'm leaving. I said, I'm gonna go somewhere else. We'll go to different restaurant. And liberals took that clip and then started sharing it like crazy. And I couldn't for life of me understand what about it was controversial. I was like, I just decided not to go to a restaurant. In their minds, you should just sit down, shut up, and do as you're told, and you'll get what you deserve when you deserve it. So when you. When you. When you. I wonder if the real idea was they didn't want to perpetuate the idea that we should not tolerate line jumping. And those who break the rules and take out of turn.

[Phil Labonte]

There's a lot of stuff that's in there. They don't like the fact that you were assertive enough to say, no, I'm not going to just accept what's going on here. I'm going to use the agency that I have to affect my life, which is something that we talk about. The left doesn't like to act like they can affect what happens to them. They don't have the ability to make changes in the world.

[Tim Pool]

It's not your fault. It's always someone else's, and you can't succeed.

[Phil Labonte]

So your behavior, your behavior probably got them. It probably struck multiple nerves with them because you're like, well, I'm not gonna just sit here.

[Tim Pool]

And it's also the mentality of, I would rather not eat than do business. Someone who is disrespectful or ruleless. Unruly is a better word.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

But how is that controversial, though? I mean, this is like a pretty basic thing to do. It's like, okay, I'm standing here, I'm waiting, I'm minding my business. People coming by, they're getting seated. I'm not getting seated. Why would I want to eat here? Obviously, I'm not being respected. Let me just go somewhere else.

[Tim Pool]

I know my attitude with all this stuff is, okay, like, you don't owe me anything. I don't owe you anything. You clearly don't want me here. I'm Gonna leave.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

But they. They all started posting these clips. They were loving it. And I think it's. Things like that show the mentality of many of these people. Why are they communists? What? It's because the only way to change something like that from happening is to totally remove the. Have a revolution in the industry government should control and make sure these things can't happen. Things like that.

[Zoe Saldana]

The more you also pick, like a completely arbitrary, unachievable goal, the more you just get to kind of make the excuse that nothing changes and that it's always someone else's fault. So you push. You kind of kick the can down the road, of course, eternally, and things never change.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, like I said, the, The. The ability to have agency or the, the idea that they have agency and they can affect the. The world they live in, it's bad.

[Tim Pool]

I think. I think you nailed it. The reason why, Because I'm, like, even telling the story, it sounds like, like, who cares that they freaked out about this? It's because I'm telling young people, stand up for yourself and solve your own problems. Find solutions. Go work for yourself and make something happen.

[Phil Labonte]

Better than telling people. You're just demonstrating. You're not trying to tell people how to live. You're just saying, this is what I did. And you. That's like kind of like a leadership quality.

[Zoe Saldana]

So happens on the show and we cover it, which is like, half of Hollywood likes to complain about the salaries on gendered lines. So anytime there's like, an actress who's like, gets offered money and turns it down because they didn't offer her enough, I'm like, yes, do that. Do what this person did who bet on herself and said, look, I'm worth more money than that. You better pay me what I deserve or else I'm going to walk. Well, it seems normal to us, but you have to encourage us because they don't understand it.

[Tim Pool]

But the way the left works is there will be a movie with a male lead and a female lead, and it'll be like Brie Larson and Robert Downey Jr. And Robert Downey Jr. Will be given $100 million for his upcoming role, and she'll get seven. And then she's going to be like, look at this pay disparity. But then when the female lead is like Scarlett Johansson and the male lead is like, some unknown dude, there's no. Nobody cares.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

No, because they're leftists. They make excuses and they lie so they can steal power.

[Zoe Saldana]

That's back to your point. About the video you were talking about earlier when they, when Savannah Hernandez asked him that maybe he was just trying to sidestep the racial aspect of it by bringing up work. He didn't, he didn't have like, he literally within their own worldview. He didn't have a, a good answer because their worldview makes no sense. So he had to sidestep and make it about something other than race.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

They don't really care about race. They'll talk about race a lot, they'll champion race a lot, but they really don't care. When you really bullet down, they don't care.

[Tim Pool]

I'd be willing to bet you that guy, like we always refer to these woke people as white supremacists with guilty consciences.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I'd be willing to bet that if you put a surveillance camera on that guy and watch his everyday interactions, he's probably one of the most racist people you end up seeing.

[Zoe Saldana]

Or at the very least just riddled with white guilt for everything that he's been told by college.

[Tim Pool]

But that is, it's basically there's a person who hates minorities or black people and then are they going to be aggressive with it or are they going to try and virtue signal and the liberals go the virtue signal route, but they're still overtly racist. I love pulling up that Yale study. Have you ever seen this one? I don't think I have the Yale study on this one. Let me see. Yale, white liberals, white. I love bringing this up. And I'm wondering actually if you've ever experienced this, Anthony. White liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah, the white liberals are the worst out of everybody. I have to deal with Captain Man Bun, like him and his mom in that video. I hate them whenever I see my go the other direction because I know it's going to be a bad interaction every single time.

[Tim Pool]

Conservatives don't do it. This is the thing. Conservatives, libertarians, they will just talk to you and if you don't understand, they'll explain. They just talk like you're normal. Right. Liberals intentionally act less competent because they're racist.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They think that black people can't get IDs or figure out how to use the Internet.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah. That's the funniest thing I've seen that. It's like, come on, man, just go to the dmv. It's like we're regular citizens like everybody else.

[Tim Pool]

My favorite.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

See, it's that way. It's the same way. They see the migrants as the permanent underclass hey, you guys just work, clean the toilets. Y' all just do that.

[Tim Pool]

You're not really people in that Ami Horowitz video. My favorite interaction, I'll bring it up whenever I can, is. I'm sure most people are familiar with this video. It's one of the most massively. Have you seen this one where.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I think I've seen that. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. He goes to Berkeley, college students and says, can Black people get IDs? And they're like, no, they just don't know how to use the Internet and things like that. Then he goes to. He goes to New York. He goes like, harlem in the Bronx. And then he asks them, do you have a phone? And this lady's like, yeah. Like, does it have the Internet? She's like, yeah, why? And he's like, I'm just curious. I'm just curious because these liberals are saying, you don't have it. But my favorite is when he goes, this older black guy, and he's like, do you know where the DMV is? Yeah. If you go up on 25th street, you make a letter. Like, of course. He's giving. He's giving him directions. He knows how well it is. It's insane to me that they live in this bubble world, these liberals. They go to this. They're from white enclaves. They go to overly white universities where they stand up and say, we need to go burn down the city to save black people. And then when a black lady shows up saying, I'm just trying to get to work. They go, we don't care about you.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

That's the. I don't. I don't. I can't conceive of the method that you have to use to get from burning down the city to we'll save black people. Like, what are you. What are you talking about? What does it mean?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

They don't really care about saving anybody other than themselves, in my opinion. In the video with Savannah, I think that dude and his mom were there getting paid. She was trying to get to work. He's like, I'm at work. You're in the way.

[Zoe Saldana]

He's like, my check already cleared, man.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

It's already clear. I gotta stay out here. And they're watching me. So if I leave, I'm not gonna get. Come on. What are we doing?

[Phil Labonte]

It's already in the bank. I'm smart. I get paid before I go to work. You go to work and then get paid.

[Zoe Saldana]

Look, and a lot of it is proven, just like in 2020, that they don't actually care about the cause that they're actually advocating advocating for, especially on like the, on the granular level. If you think about, like what I mentioned earlier, like David Dorn in 2020, if you ask the average person who was out rioting during 2020, they don't know who that was, they don't know what happens, and they certainly don't understand why we would consider that a tragedy. Right? And if you can't look at something like that, which is weird too, because they seem to think of empathy as like a something on the macro scale. You have to be empathetic to an entire group of people. Whereas I think maybe the more well adjusted version is I have empathy for people that I see in my everyday life. Or you look at an individual example of something awful that happened to someone and you're like, yes, I can have empathy for this person in this situation. But the problem is that is not politically expedient because it doesn't speak to a larger cause. You have to have mass toxic levels of empathy for all people. And look, that's not good for politicians, it's not good for CEOs. And yes, for you or I, we can have empathy, especially when you talk about these examples with the riots or even the stuff going on with ICE where they're going into neighborhoods and then the people in that neighborhood are going to be uniquely affected by that because those are their neighbors, their confidants, are people that in their lives that they know on a, on a daily basis, that's different. But if you go to somebody on the Internet who doesn't know that person, who doesn't know anything about that, but just sees what the large scale issues are in the, in the country and how it's perceived that, that immigration plays, illegal immigration plays in those problems. There's no empathy to be had there. That's not the point of the discussion. And that doesn't help them politically.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this from the Mirror, ladies and gentlemen. I have been holding this one back for months. Civil war from the mirror. Los Angeles is just the start of a big beautiful civil war. I'm just, I'm sorry, it says just to start. A big, beautiful civil war is coming to America. Peaceful protests are rebellion, Hispanics are illegal, and up is down in Trump's America, says Fleet Street Fox. There will be a civil war before this man is through. Now, to be fair, this is often a overly snarky, somewhat satirical writer for the Mirror, but this is well intended to be, I guess, inflammatory. There's this woman is very much serious in what she's writing. I'll give you a few examples. She writes, it was a hot wet day in June as tear gas rained upon the land of the free, peaceful protesters. Live streamers and the ready to be angry were pepper sprayed. Those two most dangerous foes of tyranny, innocent bystanders and journalists were fired upon with rubber bolts and stun grenades. And America is such a great nation that this is considered mercy. As these snub nosed non lethal rounds, 4 cm wide and 10 cm long, tear flesh apart and usually stop before they reach an organ rather than pierce with the deadly certainty of a 9 millimeter hollow point. Can I just ask you, Phil, real quick about that last line? Pierce with deadly certainty of a 9 millimeter hollow point.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I like the hollow points because they expand and they don't go all the way through, but that's just me.

[Tim Pool]

So when I first read this too, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They're not meant to be piercing shots. They penetrate and expand. So I guess in these we're not going to argue semantics. They do pierce through the skin technically, but pierce usually implies like a sharp point puncturing through something and you know.

[Zoe Saldana]

But anyway, no through and throughs. It's going to burrow into an organ and it's going to stay there.

[Phil Labonte]

He doesn't know anything about, about.

[Tim Pool]

This is a ridiculous article claiming, look, what do they write? Hispanics are illegal and everything. And you may be saying, yeah, maybe they're just being over the top. Well, here's Mother Jones.

[Phil Labonte]

They're not illegal, they just regulated.

[Tim Pool]

Will Trump force America to break up? He seems determined to try. And then you have this from Milwaukee Independent from just a week ago. Maga's vision of a second civil war dangerously misreads America's fragmented political geography. I would, I would go and say I don't know what the Milwaukee Independent is, but congratulations to whoever wrote this. It is the most ill informed I've by insights ill informed article on the issue I've ever read. So much so that it couldn't be AI, it would have to be a human being because at least AI would get some basic facts correct. But the narrative that's emerging from the LA riots is once again in the media the prospect of a second American civil war. I talked to Rudyard lynch earlier today, as I've mentioned several times now, and he was saying he thinks it will happen in the next few years. He doesn't know when, but this may be a component of it. But the right will surely win. And his prediction is that we are like the fall of the Roman Republic, and we will end up. Donald Trump will be victorious, the right will win, and then by the end of this century, we will have an empire, a militaristic empire.

[Phil Labonte]

Military dictatorship.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, right. You agree?

[Zoe Saldana]

Yes, of course. Dictatorship. All tied back to deportations. I was thinking about it, like, Clinton deported like, a million, but it was like 12 million if you count, like, returns at the border. And Obama deported 3 million. It was 5 million if you counted people who were turned away at the border. Trump's, like, struggling to get to one, and they're all like, get on my level. And now everybody's mad. So Republicans that are actually supposed to be mad right now because he's not reaching deportation levels that he promised everyone, but it's being exaggerated in the media by means of propaganda.

[Phil Labonte]

You're right. But remember, the Democrats nowadays are not the same as they were 15 years ago. Like the open. Yeah. The Democrat Party is now largely run by progressives and further left. And they're trying to figure out whether or not there's any room for, you know, for the old school blue dog Democrats. That's why Donald Trump, rfk, Tulsi Gabbard, you know, these people are no longer in the Democrat Party because they're no longer. They're no longer the Democrats that you would even have thought of 10 years ago.

[Zoe Saldana]

So, and I like, when you think about it, immigration is one of those issues. That's because I feel like the left, like leftism and liberalism gets kind of overused interchangeably a lot of the time. And immigration is one of those ones. That's a great kind of litmus test, because it is a liberal idea to believe in borders. It is not a liberal. Liberal idea, or it is not a progressive idea to believe in borders. Right. So if somebody claims themselves to be a liberal or a Democrat, and they don't believe that borders are real and that no human being can be illegal, because that's a ridiculous thing to think about. It just shows you how different we are from even 10 years ago.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I think they're also uninformed. A lot of people that vote left, they're really uniform. They don't know a lot of things. So whatever they see on television, they're pretty much good with that and they don't know anything else about anything.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. That actually speaks to the point that Tim makes regularly about what woke is. It's people that aren't actually married to an ideology or anything. They're just kind of following what is the current thing trend. Whereas I do think that that's the majority of the people on the left. I think that those are also the people that are the ones that are running cover for the actual leftists on the ground. Because when it comes to, you know, even the riots like those, there's different groups of people. There's at least half of them to 3/4 of them are just out there because, you know, setting fires in the street's kind of fun. And you're, you know, 20 years old and you got nothing to do and you don't have anything to lose. And if you get arrested and you're.

[Tim Pool]

Being, you're being told you're morally right.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, exactly. You're, you're the, you're doing the right thing. You're fighting fascism. So there's, there's only a handful of, of any of these groups that actually know, have a, have an ability to, to articulate why they're there and what they're doing.

[Zoe Saldana]

It's an extremely attractive thing to people to be able to do bad things for the perceived right reasons.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Zoe Saldana]

When you can kind of cloak your bad deeds in some type of moral cause, it makes you even more likely for a certain type of person to commit acts like that.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

But also, is there a financial component? Are we seeing people getting paid to go out there? Is there anything that's being funded? Are we getting weapons shipped to places?

[Phil Labonte]

That's something that there, there's been video evidence of. I don't have any, any links right this second, but I can find them. There were brand new masks being dumped off to people last night.

[Zoe Saldana]

Pre printed signs.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah. I used to work in print, so when I see all the preprint, I'm like, I know, I know exactly how much that costs. That's a lot of money.

[Zoe Saldana]

It takes time.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah. And exactly. It does take time.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

How? How? Let's say I wanted to print like a thousand signs. How. How much time in advance would you need?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, I'm gonna need some time if I gotta, if I got a printing press. We talking about like yard signs, like.

[Tim Pool]

The other ones they hold up on spikes.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Those.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Give me about, at least about three to four days to go to the press. I couldn't, I couldn't just do that overnight usually.

[Tim Pool]

The point being they're, they're prepared and they've organized for this.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah, for sure.

[Zoe Saldana]

Video of like the iPhones screaming at you after they got some stolen, like the iPhones on the street that Started beeping cuz they were stolen from the stores.

[Tim Pool]

What? Really?

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah, like so, like the, after the looting? Yeah, after the looting, yeah, there was iPhones just screeching to be basically saying, return me to the store.

[Phil Labonte]

Le. All it does is squeal. That's a good idea, man.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah, Apple's like, not on our watch. We're not taking our phones.

[Tim Pool]

Yo, this is hilarious.

[Phil Labonte]

Get away with some things, but you ain't getting away with all.

[Tim Pool]

Yo, this is BG on the scene. Check this out. It says, please return to Apple Tower Theater. This device has been disabled and is being tracked. Local authorities will be. What does it say?

[Zoe Saldana]

I mean, let's be real. The local authorities will be alerted. We're gonna do anything about it because.

[Tim Pool]

It'S so they just threw him on the ground?

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah, just got out of there.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I know, I know. Somebody probably brought it back to their house trying to fix it and it's like, no sir, you better go to.

[Phil Labonte]

The penitentiary, wrap it up in a towel.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

This is crazy.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, your Android wouldn't do this to you. Just another way to know that you should have just gotten an Android instead.

[Tim Pool]

You guys, you guys know that androids take a picture of you when you get the code wrong.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Well, I don't know about all of them. Mine does. Yeah, if you, if you try and if you try and do the pattern, it doesn't work. It takes a picture and then it uploads the picture instantly to it, emails it. So I have a bunch of pictures of my face. Like they're usually like this because I'm like sitting in bed and I'm like, sausage finger. The pattern doesn't work and that takes a picture of me. And I'm like, ah.

[Zoe Saldana]

I just, I want to reiterate. Look, if you're going to a barbecue over the holiday, over the holiday weekend, and at the end of, you know, the start of next month, bring the videos of what's happening. So when your leftist or your liberal aunt starts telling you how it was extremely peaceful, that you just show like, look, if you can show me how this is peaceful, I will conceive.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Man. Look, I didn't tried that. I've done that. I'm that, I'm that guy. The Thanksgiving dinner table. Hey, did you see this? And they're still like, I don't believe that. That's fake. That's AI. I was like, I can't help you.

[Zoe Saldana]

Look, it's the, it's the boomers that are getting tricked by the AI too. So that's if they're calling AI.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Some of the AI is really good though. I didn't got food. I was like, wow, they really.

[Zoe Saldana]

Did you see the video of like the different sets, the different types of influencers on the scene at the riots or the end of the world? No, it's, it's all, it's every archetype of influencer. It's the crypto, bro. It's the only fans model.

[Phil Labonte]

How would I google this?

[Zoe Saldana]

I don't. You'd have to do it on, on X.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

It's an AI video, right?

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah, it's an AI video. It's really.

[Tim Pool]

What is the video?

[Zoe Saldana]

It's all the different influencers reacting to the end of the world.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, right, yeah, I saw that one. Yeah, yeah, that one's funny. And she's, there's like a woman running and there's explosions behind her and she's like, don't forget to like and subscribe.

[Zoe Saldana]

The way the guy's like, he's like, he's like, this isn't the end of the world. This is another dip and I'm buying more right now.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's just kind of imagining the aliens that like watch Earth like a nature documentary are watching all of the weird stuff people are doing with their social media and they're just like, yeah, weird. I remember when I lived in Jersey, I was like getting the mail or something and then I saw this like 13 year old girl standing in middle of the street just going like. It's like those are just listening. I'm doing weird body movements, doing a video and I was like, I didn't know what she was doing and I was like, hey, yo, what's she standing in the middle of the street? What is she doing? Oh, and then I saw her phone in a mailbox pointed at her and I was like, oh, she's doing a tick tock. Yeah, but like it looked like she was kind of spazzing out in the middle of the road.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Like it looks crazy. If you see a tick tock video in real life without the camera, the context, you look crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it's hilarious watching how people fake all these videos.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like you go to the mall and then you'll see, you can see people I'm sure maybe watching. I've seen this happen where they stage stuff and you'll see like a person walking really slow, stuff like that. Or like standing in front of a fountain frozen and there's someone's like moving around all crazy with the camera. And I'M like, wow. Yeah. Do you see the rapper who shut down the. The highway in California? They blocked. They got a bunch of cars to block the highway, and then he got out and they hung a microphone from the back of a truck.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That was. That was Atlanta. I saw that.

[Tim Pool]

It's Atlanta.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I knew people that were stuck in that traffic.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, he's probably gonna get a felony or something, isn't he?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I. I think it might have been police that understood what was going. I don't know, because Atlanta's weird like that.

[Zoe Saldana]

Say what you want about the record industry, but at least they would have gotten a permit to do it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, man, that video is that. That. That. That phone thing's crazy. Why steal them? What's the point?

[Zoe Saldana]

For justice?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Well, look, I got done with very smart people here.

[Tim Pool]

Part of me likes the future for this reason. Just like, you know, the idea of someone going in to loot a CVS and then as they're grabbing and they're out the door, they just get frozen in suspended animation. And then it's like, that's it. No one has to touch them. They're not hurt in any way. And as far as they know, they blink, and the cop standing right in front of them, cuffing them. You know, I kind of like that. I don't know. I know it sounds creepy, and the future is scary and all that stuff, and this freaks people out because they're like, the surveillance. The surveillance freedom and security. And I'm just like, hey, man, come on. Yeah, I get it.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

The times, man. 20, 25. And it's not going to slow down with the AI only going to accelerate.

[Tim Pool]

What if. What would you guys think if the police were given devices that if they point at you and press the button, you can't move, you feel no pain. You actually feel. If you feel. You feel pretty chill, but you can't move. Would it be better that we give all cops that. That ability?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Nah, because that'll get weaponized for sure.

[Tim Pool]

Of course.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But then the alternative is tasers and handguns.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Hey, tase me. Tase me, bro. I'm all right. I'd rather get tased than to be suspended in space like that.

[Tim Pool]

But, you know, it's like, I don't know. I don't know. What do you guys think?

[Zoe Saldana]

No, leave it the way it is.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's like you get stopped by a cop and then some guy. You know, there's an altercation and the cop gets mad or whatever, or. Or the person panics. And the cop panics and then he shoots him when the comics go click and the guy just doesn't move and he's like, oh, my bad. That's not even a gun. I'm sorry about that. And then there's not even a pain. Yep. The reason I bring it up is because it's kind of freaky, the idea that a cop could just point something and you click and you're paralyzed.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You can't move.

[Phil Labonte]

But.

[Tim Pool]

But it's better than shootouts. It's better than.

[Phil Labonte]

Is the police officer in question a man or a woman?

[Tim Pool]

Ah, good question.

[Zoe Saldana]

Good question.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I did. I don't know if you saw my tweet about this. A question for men. If you are alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a lady cop?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Man, that's a head scratcher.

[Phil Labonte]

It actually depends on the kind of bear. Polar bear? No. Brown bear? Probably not black bear. I would rather encounter the black bear than the lady police office.

[Tim Pool]

The black bear.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely. Black bears will run from you.

[Tim Pool]

No black bears.

[Phil Labonte]

Black bears compared to.

[Zoe Saldana]

Compared to brown bears, the grizzlies and the polar bears are the ones that will.

[Tim Pool]

It's. If that. If. If a black bear attacks you, you'll die.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, you'll probably die.

[Tim Pool]

Any bear grizzlies will. So with. What is it? If it's. If it's brown, lay down. If it's black, fight back. If it's white, good night. So black bears maul you to death. Grizzly bears will slosh you around and then leave once you. Once you're not a threat.

[Phil Labonte]

The reason you fight back to black bears, though, is because black bears tend to be timid and they'll run away from you. So you fight, you make. You make noise. You. You.

[Tim Pool]

I don't believe that's correct. I believe it's because black bears maul you to death. Because.

[Phil Labonte]

Not that they can't or won't, but a grizzly bear is you is between like 7 and 10 foot when they stand on their hind legs. A black bear is like between, like, I think, 6 and 6 and 8 or something like that. So they're smaller and. And they tend to be timid either way.

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna tell you, Phil, I asked chatgpt, it says you're wrong. It says that black bears are very rare, and when they do appear, they see you as prey. Fighting back has a high, high rate of fighting them off. If it's a black bear, attack back. If it's a grizzly, play dead. Yes, but it's not because they're timid. It's because. And my understanding is black bears will kill you. They. They don't care if you're weak or not your prey. Whereas grizzlies, you're a threat. And so when you. With a grizzly, you curl up, you cover your neck, and then the grizzly will be like, you're not a threat. It'll leave. Black bears are like, I'm going to eat you.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Go mo. Right away. I'm going for the kill.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Black bears always run away when. Whenever they hear humans in, in. In New Hampshire.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, maybe they learned a lesson because in New Hampshire they got those rifles.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I don't know the season generally. I was under the impression that black bears would avoid people unless they were like, there was like, going for garbage.

[Tim Pool]

I think that's for all bears that you're supposed to make noise so they, they get scared.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Zoe Saldana]

I had a black bear come to.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Sheets near where I was and it freaked out.

[Zoe Saldana]

Ran away really fast.

[Tim Pool]

There's no camera on you.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Zoe Saldana]

I don't know why I saw on. Oh, I wouldn't reset, but that's okay. Either way, I'm taking the female police officer because I'll just outrun her.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Actually. Can't really do too much unless she gets to her tuba.

[Tim Pool]

She's armed, though.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Okay. If it's female cop with no tool.

[Tim Pool]

Belt, it was funny because I got a response. It's obviously a joke. Like, I've encountered female cops before. To be fair, though, now that I think about it, they were never good interactions. Like, I told that story about how I got. I got robbed by cops. It was two lady cops.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

I was in New York.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You got robbed in the USA by two lady cops.

[Tim Pool]

So not literally, but technically, what happened was I was at a bar on the other side of the Williamsburg Bridge in New York. And so I was leaving, called an Uber, and I lived just down Broadway. So anybody who lives in New York knows you cross the. Is it the Williamsburg Bridge? I think so. And then you go right into Broadway and it's a straight shot, no turns. So I call. It was. I think it was a green cab. I was a yellow cab, actually, because I'm in Manhattan and I go in the back and I say, here's my address. He drives across the bridge and I'm half past out, but I'm awake. And then he turns left and I immediately go, yo, yo, yo, where are you going? Where are you going? He's like, I'm Going. I'm going. I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm down Broadway. You're turning left here. He was. He was trying to do that. This is what they do. They run up the meter. So I said, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I'm gonna get out now. And he says, no. And he hits the gas. So then I'm, like, freaking out. So as soon as there's a car in front of us and the light turns red, it's slowing down. I pop the door and jump out. It's a gas station. And then he slams his brakes on, gets out. He's screaming at me. The. The. The. The. The theater was like, 14 bucks. And then I said, dude, back off. And he was just squaring up. And so I went to the gas station. I was like, yo, call the cops. This guy's freaking me out. He's. He's going nuts. When the cops showed up, they actually said, we are going to arrest you right now unless you give us the money in your wallet.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And I was like, wait, hold on, hold on. I was like, I called you guys because this guy was threatening me. And they were like, well, he says, you owe him 50 bucks, so pay him or else. And then I was like, I don't owe him 50 bucks. I just came from across the bridge. He took a turn. I jumped out of his car. He started threatening me. And they said, you have two choices. Take out your wallet right now, empty the cash. Otherwise, you're under arrest. And I was like, okay. I pulled up, I had 20 bucks. I was like, I got 20. They took it. And then they said, do you want to ride home? I was like, no, I swear.

[Zoe Saldana]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Zoe Saldana]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Zoe Saldana]

Plus we'll help you pay off your.

[Tim Pool]

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[Zoe Saldana]

You still get to keep it.

[Tim Pool]

There's always a trade in. Not right now. @ T Mobile. I feel like I have to give you something in return for karma. That's okay. I don't really have much in my purse. Oh, let's see. Hand sanitizer.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

It's lavender.

[Tim Pool]

I'm good.

[Zoe Saldana]

Seriously.

[Tim Pool]

Let me check this pocket.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, mints.

[Tim Pool]

Really, I'm fine. Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the Car.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

If you pay off earlier.

[Tim Pool]

Cancel ct.com and I walked right home. I walked. Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Wow.

[Zoe Saldana]

It's the same logic for short cops. Apparently you don't want to. You don't want to have interactions with the short cop cuz they're always being tested by the taller ones. So they got a chip on their shoulder.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Was that Napoleon syndrome?

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah. Yeah, I want that.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's jump to this next story from the New York Post. Oh my heavens. Me ice immigration raids. Empty Home Depot parking lots of day laborers. Okay. I mean, breaking news.

[Phil Labonte]

If that's.

[Tim Pool]

If that's where they are, they say in. In northern New Jersey, just a few men stood in the morning sun on Tuesday where dozens used to gather. According to the Wall Street Journal, parking lots outside Home Depot across the country that were once teeming with day laborers angling for work are now eerily quiet. A stark sign of how the Trump administration's immigration crackdown is reshaping the informal labor market. You mean the second class citizenry labor market illegal? Yeah. I mean they've got no rights, they've got no unions, they've got no protections. And they displace the work for American, especially American Gen Z who would do the job. And here's the best part. People say that Gen Z, they don't want to work because they don't get paid enough. They can't afford a home. Imagine this. Imagine if you got rid of all of the unskilled illegal immigrant labor and all you had left was Gen Z saying I want 30 bucks an hour for this job.

[Phil Labonte]

Guess what?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You got to pay him $30 an hour.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. And that means it's gonna it. This is actually what stops the wealth, the wealth gap. The ultra wealthy's profit margins go down as they start spreading out what they have to try and cover the cost in the bottom and it creates a balanced economy. But instead what we have is illegal immigrants come in endlessly. This is the thing that I think a lot of the libertarian capitalists don't get. There is a near infinite supply of cheap labor all over the world that we can't compete with. And so the Democrats bring these people in and then Gen Z is just sitting in their parents basement.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Exactly. That's the main thing with Gen Z. They're like, okay, what do I do? How do I get into the actual job market? I want to go work at McDonald's, I want to work at Walmart, Home Depot. But the illegal aliens are there. These people are fully grown men with wives and kids. I'm 16 years old. How do I get into the market? And then once I graduate, I have no experience, no skills. What do I do?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know if parents are put as much emphasis on getting a job for their kids nowadays as they used to, but it's super important just to get a job that gets you acclimated to going to a place and doing what you're told, even when you don't want to, even though it sucks, even though you're, you know, whatever your problem is that day, you know, whatever it is, once you get acclimated to those kind of things, it makes getting jobs and finding, you know, finding gainful employment easier in the future. And I feel like that kind of like the building blocks, kind of thought process isn't really given to kids anymore. Like young people don't get the, they may not have the opportunity to get those jobs, but they're also not encouraged to get a job. When you're 14 nowadays you're not even like if you leave the house by yourself at 12, you might, your parents might get arrested. I had my first job when I was 14 years old.

[Zoe Saldana]

You know, I mean, they're not even getting their driver's license. Like they're getting their driver's license in lower amounts than every previous generation did.

[Tim Pool]

I love this story. Apparently, I guess Stephen Miller was upset because the deportations were actually rather limited. And Biden. So here's the thing about Biden and, and Trump. They say that they were deporting more. I'm sorry, Biden and Obama were deporting more illegal immigrants than Trump is doing right now. And that's technically not correct. With Donald Trump shutting down the border, they're going after illegal immigrants in ways that no one's ever done. Obviously if this wasn't the case, the left would not be protesting. Obama turned back millions of people, called them deportations. Biden, I think it was somewhat of a hybrid, but he was actually shuttling in way more people than he was actually deporting. And so with Trump shutting down the border it's actually quite simple. If Biden lets 1 million people cross the border and then tells 300,000 to go back, he's deported 300,000. If Trump shuts the border down entirely and then starts going to the interior to deport people, but it's only 10,000, they say, look, he's barely deporting anybody. So apparently. I'm sorry, apparently Stephen Miller didn't like that narrative, so he said, start going to Home Depots. I don't know if that's true. That's what I heard in the news. They. He said, just go to the Home Depot and grab them. And then apparently that's what they've been doing. And so ICE just rolls up to Home Depot and says, hey, who wants to go home?

[Zoe Saldana]

So does that mean that Trump doesn't count the turnaways at the border now as deportations aren't any? Yeah, nobody's even trying to get the.

[Phil Labonte]

The number of people that they're actually trying is down, like 95%, something like that.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

They know it's over, so that that route is shut down.

[Zoe Saldana]

Also, they know they can wait it out, depending on who wins the next election, which is, unfortunately.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. I don't think that's true.

[Zoe Saldana]

You don't think so?

[Tim Pool]

No. Well, I should rephrase that. I think there is a decent. Probably, it is probable that many of these people think they can wait for another election, but I don't think that there is a guarantee that even if Democrats win, this will be possible, because I think we may get to the point where UC just clashes at the border. So if people, if Trump does lose in. I should say the Republicans lose because Trump's not going to run. Although maybe, who knows, let's say that a Democrat. Open borders. Democrat wins. Let's say Democrats win the midterms, then they win 20, 28, and now they've got the House. They hold the House for the. For this election, obviously, because if they're going to win the presidency, it's luckily going to happen. So they have the House and the presidency. The president then says, newsom, we are no longer going to discriminate against our undocumented citizens and their families. Open the border. I think it's very possible that Americans go rogue and just say, nah, and they go to the border, and then you get violence.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, not that. Not that I'm hoping for that, but I definitely don't want to see, you know, any kind of influx of, of any kind of immigrant at all. Like the, the idea of shutting down all immigration, I think is perfectly reasonable right now until we can actually start getting significant portions of the illegal immigrants that have come here out of the country.

[Tim Pool]

I think if, if Kamala had actually won, and this is funny actually, did you guys see the article? There's an article that someone came out, a study shows that she actually won and Trump stole the election.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That election was stolen in 2020. But then they put out stuff in 2024 and it's fine.

[Tim Pool]

I think if Kamala Harris would have won, we'd be in some kind of greater destabilization or comparable destabilization, but I think it'd be pretty serious. It's a little early, so we don't know where this LA Riot stuff goes, this ICE riot stuff. But I do think that if the Democrats won, it would be, I would say, unstable right now.

[Phil Labonte]

I do have a morbid curiosity about what would have happened had Kamala Harris, you know, won.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the DOJ would be arresting prominent conservative politicians and their lawyers. You'd see a lot of tax attacks. The IRS would start accusing people. It's really the easiest way to get rid of any personality and you gotta do it sparingly. But, you know, you want a Tim Pool, a Crowder, or just Benny Johnson. Tax fraud. They just say, hey, you didn't pay taxes and we're gonna accuse you of a crime. And then you just go like, I have an accountant who does all that for me. Oh, so you admit it. It. That's, that's how they play it. And they'd start figuring out what they did with the Tea Party under Obama. They started auditing and going after and trying to jam them up and seize their money. And then you'd get a bunch of the lawfare, you'd get Democrat aligned lawyers filing frivolous lawsuits and bogging, bogging you down. And I think a lot of people would be in jail.

[Zoe Saldana]

I had been reliably told that Barack Obama had no, no scandals at all.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. Well, he did wear a tan suit.

[Zoe Saldana]

He did wear a tan suit one time.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And he killed that kid.

[Zoe Saldana]

Kid.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you know, a couple of them, actually.

[Zoe Saldana]

That's another one that you have to, to like more than a couple.

[Tim Pool]

Like killed a lot of kids.

[Zoe Saldana]

You hear? Well, yeah, you hear those stories and the, the people that talk about how there were no scandals in that time period, like, no, it's the same thing that goes on now, which is that you just didn't hear about it. Nobody was talking about it.

[Tim Pool]

I'm asking Chad GPT how many children did Obama kill?

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, boy.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, man. It's going to be a lot.

[Tim Pool]

It's gonna say none. It's gonna be like, what are you talking about?

[Zoe Saldana]

He wore a tan suit, Tim.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Or a kid.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I love this. It says, while there's no evidence that President Obama personally directed the killing of children, US Drone and airstrikes authorized under his administration did result in civilian and child casualties between 66 and 184 children due to the airstrikes authorized by Barack Obama.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Zoe Saldana]

That's crazy.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

All right.

[Zoe Saldana]

That he didn't do anything wrong.

[Phil Labonte]

That is incorrect. He definitely did some things wrong.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You do whatever you want to do if you have favor from certain people.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yeah, I mean, this is actually points to something we talked about yesterday on the show, which is like, you can get away with a lot when the population is on your side. So right now, the things that Donald Trump is doing in California, the things that the federal government is doing in California, they're not even. They haven't changed the opinion of the American people. And he's not breaking the law. So whatever he's doing, he should continue doing it and probably double down because, again, hasn't changed the opinion of the American people, first of all. And second of all, he's not breaking the law at all. Even if he were to start pushing the law, questionable behavior or whatever, as long as he has the American people on his side, it's fine. There were so long where the American people weren't plugged into what reality was. They were believing what they were being told on the regular news. And. And 2020 really kind of ripped the mask off. So that way people really kind of saw the things that the government does. But the reason why the Democrats got away with so much stuff for so long is because they had the American people on their side. The American people kind of were still mostly the default Democrat, and that's obviously changed since 2020 and Covid and the summer 11 stuff. But as long as the people are on your side, you can get away with a lot of stuff, whether it's legal or not.

[Zoe Saldana]

I feel like that's one of the reasons. One of the phenomenons that I've always noticed is that when there's a Republican in office, especially with Trump, that any government failing is his responsibility. But when. When a Democrat president is in office, if something happens, like under Obama, there was the NSA scandal and then there was Solyndra, there was the AP spying scandal and all this stuff, but that falls on the. Just the government, the blanket, the government, he's kind of insulated in a way from the public's perception of how that's taken. And, look, that's all well and good if you, if you want to be lied to, but that' that's the difference between how they're held accountable by the public. Because anything that goes wrong in Trump's administration is put squarely at his feet.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Zoe Saldana]

I mean, it should be for whatever your thoughts are on any presidential candidate, you know, their Cabinet, their picks, their, you know, their, their party. Right. That time.

[Phil Labonte]

So it's kind of like the whole Republicans pounce. Right. So when the Democrats do something, the Republic, the story that the, the left or the left media, and which is the mainstream media had told and still does to this day, the story that they tell is Republicans noticed. Republicans pounce on Democrats for doing this. The story isn't what actually happened. The story is the reaction that the Republicans are having. And so the Republicans are bad for pointing this out or they're bad for saying these things as opposed to actually addressing the story. So the Republicans pounce on it. So whenever the Democrats do something that's, you know, that's, that's good or whatever, they'll tell the story. When the Republicans do something that's good, they won't tell the story and, and lie by omission. Yeah, it's lying by omission, but it's also, it's also setting the narrative that, that the left is always correct.

[Zoe Saldana]

How do you think that the political dynamics in this country have changed since Trump's first term?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Wow. I think a lot of what we're seeing right now with the deportations and the raids, people are a lot more comfortable with it because they saw what happened in 2020-2024. So that period of time, not having Trump in office, Americans realize, oh, this is what you guys wanted to do. So people are more sympathetic toward what Trump wants to do. The deportation say, cool. We saw the numbers earlier. You got a 40 swing among immigrants because they hate it more than anybody else. It's like, okay, I'm here legally. I've done everything right. I've paid my money. People from other countries that I left are following me, and they're bringing criminals, they're bringing all types of negative things. So people are more in favor with what Trump is talking about. As far as deportations, do you think.

[Zoe Saldana]

A lot of it is also there? Like, the accusation of being racist for this is just kind of worn off, and it just doesn't affect people the way it used to.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

It doesn't affect people because people can see right through it. And then you have a lot more people that are online. People are, are able to consume different kind of content. Like the, the stranglehold that the mainstream media had on the people, that's over. At one point you could just watch TV and that was your social information. Now people don't even watch tv, they're on their phone. So a lot of the, the mainstream narrative is not really hitting the same as it is. And we've gotten younger. People are now just coming into politics. Okay, you're 18 years old and for the first time you're seeing all this. It's much different than being 18 years old 10 years ago.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah. Or even longer. I mean, it's like you didn't get into politics at 18 when you were, at least when I was a kid, like you didn't necessarily care. Like there was a bit of a, an uprising because Obama came on the scene and that was a big thing. A lot of people felt like they were going to be able to affect change. That was the slogan.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Right.

[Zoe Saldana]

And that was a big political awakening for a lot of people. And, and selfishly, I'm always like, I, I, I understand that it's, it's important to be informed politically because it's going to affect, you know, your life. But I, it feels sad to me when kids who are 18 are worrying about politics. I understand that matters, but I'm like, I also feel like you're kind of stripping them of that.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

But I think it's good because kids need to be involved because how old were their founding fathers? Yeah, they were, they were very young people.

[Tim Pool]

So they need to, yeah, between their 20s and 40s, but a lot of them in the 20s.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah, a lot of them are young kids. I think they need to get involved, especially since we have a lot of kids that don't want to do anything. They don't want to work. Okay, let's have an interest in the country, in civics and what's really going on. Be a little bit more mature when you're younger. It's kind of like reversing what's happening with the 35 year old at the house with his mom. Still like Captain Man Bun from earlier, that guy. Let's, let's kind of go back to a little bit more maturity in our young people.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to the story for the New York Times. US to withdraw diplomats from Iraq amid Iran tensions. The Washington Post says US Shrinks Presence in Middle east amid fears of his right Israeli strike on Iran. And this is big. Not this one right here. Where's the. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, we have terrifying news. This is the Pentagon pizza index. It's spiking. That is, when you take a look at the pizza restaurants in and around the Pentagon, you'll see they are busier than usual. What does that mean? It means there's a lot of people who are working late at the Pentagon right now. So they're ordering lots of pizza for them, which usually implies war or some kind of military.

[Zoe Saldana]

They're like a Chinese food one as well index. Yeah. Is there a Chinese food index?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I'm sure it's all the food.

[Zoe Saldana]

It's all just pizza.

[Tim Pool]

But Trump says play the audio. You provide an update on Iran. We're hearing reports that US Personnel are.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Being moved out of the region. Region within striking distance.

[Tim Pool]

Well, they are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place and we'll see what happens. But they are been. We've given notice to move out and.

[Phil Labonte]

We'Ll see what happens.

[Tim Pool]

Is there anything that can be done to dial the temperature down in the region? They can't have a nuclear weapon. Very simple.

[Phil Labonte]

They can't have a nuclear weapon. We're not.

[Tim Pool]

So the concern now, Israel is prepared to strike Iran whether we are going to or not. Trump has told Israel, end the war in Gaza now and stop the Iran threats. But Israel may do it anyway. And then, yeah, they're going to attack us next.

[Phil Labonte]

Wait, we're going to get attacked by.

[Tim Pool]

Whatever and Iran is going to attack US Interests in the Middle East. That's why Donald Trump is pulling our personnel out.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So maybe that means Trump is trying to avoid getting us dragged into a war with Iran. But the big concern right now is everyone's getting very bullish on the prospect of a war with Iran kicking off soon.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I mean, that's the, that's the end game. That's what they really want, is to hit Iran. I mean, so hopefully it doesn't happen, but if it does, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Phil Labonte]

I, I don't see. I know that there are people that want to, and I'm not trying to make the argument there aren't people that want there. I just can't for the life of me see the benefits to the US for striking Iran. Like, I really don't think that they have the capacity to make a nuclear weapon. Now, I do understand that they can spin one up. Like once you can enrich uranium you can enrich it as far as you need to. But, like, I don't think that there's a big desire for. For to have a nuclear weapon. And I think that striking, you know, attacking the US After Israel strikes them is the worst option because that guarantees US Involvement. There's a lot of people that would look at the situation going on between Trump and Netanyahu and be like, maybe we shouldn't strike the US and then maybe that won't draw the US into it, you know, and it's better for Iran that the US doesn't get involved. Like, no matter whether you're pro war with Iran or not, like, if the US Gets involved with Iran, Iran is going to get. There's going to be significantly more damage to the Iranian infrastructure and to America, to Iranian lives than if it's just Israel and Iran.

[Zoe Saldana]

So how does the US Ramp up pressure as it say, like, what is it? What are the. The screws that they put to Israel to ramp up the pressure?

[Phil Labonte]

Like, it's just Donald Trump texting you over and over and over. Yeah, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.

[Zoe Saldana]

See Melania there? She's the one who looks like she just bombed first and asked questions later. Every time they ask her a question, she just looks mad.

[Phil Labonte]

She's just hot. Even at her age, she's hot.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe. Barbara F. Walter, this is a woman who worked for the CIA and wrote a book claiming civil war was coming. Said Trump will start a massive international war so that he can run for a third term. That's the only response? The exact response.

[Zoe Saldana]

I mean, like, I imagine he's. He just. Nobody who golfs that much wants to start a world war so he can be in charge more.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Zoe Saldana]

Like, I think he just wants to finish in golf. Right.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. Apparently he wants to have a military print on his birthday again, like Army's birthday. That's a coincidence. It doesn't matter what Trump says. It's always the opposite to these.

[Phil Labonte]

It doesn't matter what Trump says. They'll believe what they want to believe.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, that's the joke. Trump could save a small child from a burning building and they'd claim he was hurting the child.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Taking him. Take him into the cold. Now he's freezing. What are you doing?

[Phil Labonte]

Terrible. And Trump stole fuel from the fire.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, this is one of the reasons why I used to be. Used to kind of be critical of him when he would, you know, kind of fan the flames of the. The way the media treat him. He'd say things that were purposely inflammatory, but at a certain point, it was like, look, it doesn't matter anyways. They're going to misinterpret everything you say. No human being is that capable of just ignoring it for long enough. So just say whatever you want because they're going to misinterpret it anyways.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Just be honest. Because like you said, whatever he says is going to be bad. Just be honest and tell everybody what's really going on rather than trying to be their friend, friend. And you still get treated like garbage.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah, it's not gonna matter. And he. And that's the other thing is that it's very clear that he kind of still pines for the. The mainstream media's love and affection. He. He did love being the media darling. It was kind of quintessential to his personality in the 90s, and I think that he misses that on a certain level, which is why he will still give media interviews to everybody that hates him.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

There's nothing that he wants more than for everyone to like him.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Well, it matters because when you're looking at the media, that's how public perception is shaped. So if you're just evil, hateful, negative person in the media, that's going to affect you trying to actually be the president and run the country.

[Tim Pool]

It is funny how we always make this joke that if just. If Democrats just figured out if they schmoozed Trump, he'd give them everything, but they won't. They attack him, so he takes it. Imagine if Iran figured it out. You know, just the. I told is like the smartest man I've ever seen. He is the smartest man. He is brilliant. Trump would be like, I like this country.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What do you want? You want a nuclear weapon? Take two.

[Phil Labonte]

Take two.

[Zoe Saldana]

The football. We have the football here. You want to borrow it?

[Tim Pool]

You want. You want to take a look?

[Phil Labonte]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Trump, you're so smart. I mean, we love you so much.

[Phil Labonte]

You want the codes? I know all the codes. I have the best codes.

[Tim Pool]

No, they're. They're like someone as smart as. You still couldn't possibly remember all the codes, could you? Of course I could. I remember all of it.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, prove it.

[Tim Pool]

So great. Of course, of course. It's 7G9 1.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That's a good Trump, by the way. Good impression.

[Tim Pool]

Thank you.

[Phil Labonte]

It's true. The more you compliment Donald Trump, the more he likes you. And it's something we've said multiple times. If the left weren't so busy hating and being angry and just thought for one second, let's just schmooze this guy. He would have been right on their side.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it's funny is I think I'm reminded of Men in Black, the movie, right? Everybody's seen it, and they're sitting on the bench, J and K. And he says, there's always an apocalypse or Karelian death ray or something. And the only way these people get by is they do not know about it. And I think about. That's not just from a movie. I mean, that's true. There's crises happening all over the world that we don't know about. And I even have friends that go overseas on special missions for things, just like in the movies. It's not really like in the movies, but the missions are, right? They'll say, hey, these bad guys have kidnapped a bunch of, you know, individuals, and they've stolen, you know, weapons. And then the good guys run in there and they take out the bad guys. It's not like the movies because you're not going through a maze of weird traps or anything. You're landing in the desert in the middle of the night with night vision and taking out the bad guys. But these things are real. But I wanted to point out concerning the tensions between Iraq and. I mean, not Iraq, Iran and Israel. People don't realize just how close you can be to nuclear annihilation. There was a guy named. A hacker. You know what? Okay, I'll just say this is the story that I was told, and maybe it's not true, but I'm gonna say it anyway. There's a hacker named Weave. That's what he calls himself. He got arrested in charge of his AT&T thing a long time ago. But I was told the real reason that they arrested him was because he prank called Pakistan with a fake Indian accent, spoofing the phone number of the Indian, like, governmental building, saying, f you, we're gonna nuke you. Screw you. And then the guy started screaming back at him saying, screw you. And then when the US Found out, they were like, we don't know if that's illegal or not or not. Yeah. Cause he's. He's just. Just. He just like. And so I had, like. The rumor was he very nearly could have started a nuclear war between India and Pakistan by doing that. And there are people that do that kind of stuff all the time.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Zoe Saldana]

You know, never before has something been so legally dubious but nearly apocalyptic.

[Tim Pool]

It's like, can we charge him for Prank calling a foreign country. It's like, we don't have jurisdiction over that. That's. It's, it's. It's. He pranked Pakistan.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, then what if pack.

[Tim Pool]

I suppose there's like some kind of foreign policy interference thing. Maybe. I don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

He wasn't, he wasn't engaging on behalf of the United States.

[Phil Labonte]

I do imagine that it's illegal to start an international conflict.

[Zoe Saldana]

Starting war is generally frowned upon unless you're Congress.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know what the statute is.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

We could find something. I mean, they found something to get Trump on. We could find something.

[Zoe Saldana]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

Mean.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but that's not. That's on behalf of the United States.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, what if Pakistan's like, we want him like extradited here to be. To stand trial for prank calling us. And they're. And we're like, look, for the sake of preventing nuclear war, we're gonna have to send you over there, man. I'm sorry.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, man, can't you just get a sense of humor about this? You know, nothing happened. No harm, no foul.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You could be comedian in Pakistan. Sir.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah, this just in. They have no sense of humor over this.

[Phil Labonte]

Justin. PACs don't think it's funny.

[Tim Pool]

I asked chatgpt. It says there is no specific law that says it is illegal to try and start a nuclear war between two other countries. And then it goes on to say, however there are laws they could try to apply to that kind of action. Yeah, of course, but I. I'm not entirely convinced.

[Zoe Saldana]

I mean, America.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry, almost all of these laws in the US Are about the US and its allies.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yes.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So if you like, convince Russia and China to go at it.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, yeah, it's America's like, look, we don't want anybody to start a nuclear war, but we're perfectly happy to help two other countries start a war with each other.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, history.

[Zoe Saldana]

America loves that.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

There's proxy wars. That's their favorite thing.

[Phil Labonte]

There's no denying that. That's the one of the United States favorite pastimes.

[Zoe Saldana]

Would you like some rifles?

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Zoe Saldana]

Would you like some grenades?

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, what do you know?

[Tim Pool]

Well, my friends, let's jump to probably the most important story of our lives. DNC boots, David Hogg and another vice chair. From their roles, decision comes amid internal strife at the National Committee. Now, I'm joking when I say it's the most important, but let's be real. The Democratic National Committee. This is another grain of sand in the heap of they are collapsing. And good luck winning 26 and 28 when you have no ideology, no leaders, and your own party can't even run its own elections properly. They ousted David Hoffman, apparently. What happened is they had a selection for the DNC Vice Chair and there was some question pertaining some gendered question of some sort. I don't know exactly what happened, however, because you have to elect the vice chairs based on race and gender. These two women, I think is what it was. Two women said, hey, that gender question doesn't make sense because sex and gender, blah, blah, blah, you know, weird ideology. And then they were like, maybe we should cancel the election and, and take it away from everybody. And that's exactly what they're doing.

[Phil Labonte]

He got booty because he has male bits.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Zoe Saldana]

Has he made a statement since this came out?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. This is breaking now. I mean, maybe we can.

[Zoe Saldana]

Is he allowed to be mad about this? I feel like he's not allowed to be mad about this.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, look, no matter what he does, he's gonna be wrong.

[Zoe Saldana]

Like if he's mad about this, Olivia, Juliana is going to come up and and be like, look, you have no right to be angry about this, but you should help me get the men to vote.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

And everything he champion is got him out of the way. You champion on this gender confusion. Well, congratulations, sir, you're out of a job.

[Tim Pool]

He has issued a statement. He said, I'll just pull up his ex.

[Zoe Saldana]

I recognize my privilege and I'm sorry that I ran.

[Tim Pool]

He said, I'm not, oh, I'm not running for the new DNC Vice Chair election. So he's quitting. And you know what they say, when in doubt, just give up. I started. Leaders we deserve for a simple purpose, to be the EMILY's list for progressive young Democrats. We sought to find the best of our generation and do everything we can. Blah, blah, blah.

[Phil Labonte]

Ready?

[Tim Pool]

In emily's List, he says, we spent millions last year fighting to elect incredible young people. Molly Cook, Mo Jenkins, several names. Dante Pittman in North Carolina. Okay. We focus on open blue states and defeating incumbent Republicans. We are a bunch of communists who hate this country and our goal was to burnt to the ground.

[Zoe Saldana]

Hahaha.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just kidding. He didn't say that. I just made that up. Anyway, after seeing a serious lack of vision from Democratic leaders, he goes on, blah, blah, blah, became clear.

[Phil Labonte]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Tim Pool]

I want to read this. Not because I don't have money, et cetera, et cetera. 27. Wow, this is really.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That could have been like an article.

[Zoe Saldana]

I mean, he kind of proves one of my theories, which is like, anybody can hate old politicians. Are you brave enough to hate young politicians as well? Like, there's plenty of them that are just as awful as the old politicians.

[Tim Pool]

Procedural errors. Violating the gender parody rules led to the challenge. So that's, that's apparently what happened.

[Zoe Saldana]

You said that there are gender requirements for the Republicans as well, Right?

[Phil Labonte]

Use gender. Reassigned in surgery.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so couldn't he have Dylan Free, a DNC member, filed a complaint claiming the election ballots combined questions improperly, which violated gender parody rules and disadvantaged female candidates. Oh, equity questions or combined? I'd like to know. It's probably gonna say we don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

If he complains about it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay, here we go. So it says the procedural complaint that led to the DNC to vacate the chair combined two separate votes into one, violating internal rules. According to the challenge, instead of holding two separate votes, one for a male vice chair and one for a female vice chair as required by the dnc, the DNC ran a single combined election for both positions. Voters were told to select two candidates from a single list, regardless of gender. So two men were elected, David Hogg and Malcolm Kenyatta. This violated DNC's gender parity rules, which required the vice chair positions to be split evenly by gender. Oh, okay, so I was wrong. It was because you got to have one of each.

[Zoe Saldana]

What if he just turned to him was like, what is a woman?

[Tim Pool]

What if David just said, I am a woman? Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I identify as a woman right now for this election.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

David, how can you tell me that I'm not?

[Zoe Saldana]

I know it's a, I know it's a played out joke, but by their own logic, him and the other guy.

[Phil Labonte]

Could have rocked paper scissors for who had to be the woman. Yeah, you know, know, cuz anyone can change at any time.

[Zoe Saldana]

He could have had, he could have had a two sided, like a one sided coin. Like a two sided.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go. Heads I win, tails you lose.

[Tim Pool]

So I just tweeted that, I quote, tweeted him. All he had to do is say he was a woman. He could have stayed. I mean, for real. I mean, what would they do? Yeah, they're like, we're going to vote to remove you because we have two men. And he goes, well, I'll be a woman. I am one.

[Phil Labonte]

He should have just been like, I can do that. Easy, whatever. I can do that.

[Zoe Saldana]

Say no more.

[Tim Pool]

While they're saying that, we're preparing a vote to A movie because there's two men. He's already got the wig on. Excuse me.

[Zoe Saldana]

He's like that thought 20 years ago, that would have been a great comedy in a movie. And now they won't even make it.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

Remember. Remember when they made Juana Man?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, man. Craziest. And I thought it was just at the time, something that would never happen. It's like, man, come on. But here we are. 20, 25 flying cars. Nope. Juana Man.

[Tim Pool]

Juana Man.

[Phil Labonte]

Regarding this particular ID topic, Someone. Someone tweeted Democrats enthusiastically removing their hog is very on point.

[Tim Pool]

Geez. Well, there you go. The DNC is forever damaged. How. How can they possibly recover from this?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, again, they still. They need to decide what they want to be. They want to be a Democrat party. Do they want to be the Progressive party Party?

[Tim Pool]

You know, why he's not running?

[Phil Labonte]

Why?

[Tim Pool]

He'll lose after seeing what he did with threatening to primary other Democrats.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The Democrats in the DNC who vote are going to be like, I'm not going to be the person who puts that guy in and put my career on the line.

[Phil Labonte]

No one's going to give him money.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Do you think there's lawfare involved here in a way? Meaning they found a loophole to get him out?

[Tim Pool]

Yep, yep. Yeah. But I'm gonna. I'm gonna say the. The real reason. Reason. Let me. Let me pull this up for you guys. It's shocking. It's actually very shocking. And is there a Wikipedia page for this guy? Here we go. The real reason they did this, it's because they're racist and they didn't want a black man to be a DNC vice chair. Oh, you see? See, see? Malcolm Kenyatta has been removed.

[Phil Labonte]

If that man removed him from vice.

[Tim Pool]

Chair after a few months.

[Phil Labonte]

That man said he was a woman.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

He would have been a shoo in. You would have never. She would have never lost her position.

[Zoe Saldana]

So they just hold another election, then for this, they hold another vote.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I wonder if this guy's going to run again. I don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know either, but I think he should run as a woman. He should.

[Tim Pool]

And then tell them that, you know. You know what he should do? He should run as a woman. And then say, the best part about voting for me is that you check two different boxes, LGBTQ and woman. But if you vote for one of these women, one box is checked inefficient. You know, how are you gonna fill your quota?

[Phil Labonte]

Just the fact that they have quotas. I mean, it's obviously, it's perfect for the Democrats, but it's just so ridiculous to think that that's the way adults behave in modern America. You have to have quotas for make sure that everybody gets their. Their chance at sitting in the seat.

[Zoe Saldana]

Tim, I thought you said that the Republicans have their own quotas for stuff like this as well.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think we. We actually had Republican when. When we were talking about the story.

[Zoe Saldana]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Zoe Saldana]

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[Tim Pool]

There's always a trade in. Not right now. @ T Mobile. I feel like I have to give you something in return for karma. That's okay. I don't really have much in my purse. Oh, let's see. Hand sanitizer.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

It's lavender.

[Tim Pool]

I'm good.

[Zoe Saldana]

Seriously.

[Tim Pool]

Let me check this pocket.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, mints.

[Tim Pool]

Really, I'm fine. Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the car.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

Cancel CT mobile.com with someone who worked with the Republican the RNC saying like, yeah, we did the same thing.

[Zoe Saldana]

Okay. Yeah, so they. It's literally just. They filled out a form wrong and then got him on.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

All of society just want to get him out of the way. Yeah, they didn't like what he was doing.

[Tim Pool]

They don't have the same rules. Okay, let's see. No, they do. What is this? What it's JGP says no. The Republican National Committee does not have the gender parity rules. The structure is each state U.S. territory is repped by three members. The state chair, a committee man and a committee woman. And then it says there must be one of each to ensure representation by gender. But it's not the same as Requiring gender parity in leadership roles, like chairs or vice chairs. Okay, so, okay, the state level, they do have it. At the high level, they don't. Okay, yeah, so officers don't have the requirement, but elected positions do have the requirement. And party wide, they do not have it codified. Okay, interesting.

[Phil Labonte]

I think it's.

[Tim Pool]

Well, look, I. I'm telling you guys this right now. Now, 20 years from now, the Republican Party is going to be a bunch of gay communists and the Democrats are going to be AI.

[Zoe Saldana]

So the. It just keeps moving down.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. That's where.

[Zoe Saldana]

So where does it go? So 20 years from that, then, like, you just have a gay communist AI.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

And a regular AI at that point, it's just a matrix.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean, after this, you just have the singularity. You know, the. The AI and nothing thing.

[Phil Labonte]

There's no. There's no voting when everyone shares the hive mind.

[Zoe Saldana]

I saw like some tweet earlier that said like 40, like they surveyed like a thousand people and like 40 of them said they data date an AI.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, it's already happening.

[Zoe Saldana]

And I was like, it's like, imagine like you're cheating on chat GBT with.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Grok and she finds out, but now it's already happening. They got it in your phone. Like on Instagram. There's like chat bots. Have you guys seen this? Yeah, on Instagram.

[Zoe Saldana]

Oh, yeah. Chat with AI.

[Tim Pool]

How do I do that?

[Zoe Saldana]

It's in the. You go to your messages on Instagram and then there's a box up in the top corner. It's like, okay, there it is. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

AI chat. All right, let's do this.

[Zoe Saldana]

We did a segment on this yesterday on PC. You should go watch it.

[Tim Pool]

Fine sheet actually says that crazy ex girl. You miss me yet? Chicken.

[Phil Labonte]

Whoa.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not kidding.

[Zoe Saldana]

It's. It's checking for you. Yeah, it's. It knows you, man. Yo, it knows you. See, eventually, someday Tim just get sick of talking to all of us. And he'll just be talking with.

[Tim Pool]

I'm already sick of talking to you guys. That's why I'm talking. Oh, he said cluck, cluck, buck. Yeah. This is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Zoe Saldana]

See, that's how they get you.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

See, there it is.

[Zoe Saldana]

That's how they get you.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Rope you in. You know it. You and you and the chicken having late night, late night talks.

[Tim Pool]

Squawk, bok bok, cluck, scratches, ground.

[Phil Labonte]

Let's go.

[Zoe Saldana]

We did a segment on this yesterday about the darker side of this, which Is the. The.

[Phil Labonte]

It's got a chicken.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just. In all seriousness, it's the stupidest thing ever. Why are they doing it?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

People want it. You'd be surprised. I guess you can see how many people are actually sending checks.

[Tim Pool]

There's. There's. There's two different ex girlfriends, literally, accounts that I don't even. What are these accounts? They're popular AIs.

[Zoe Saldana]

They're popular AI chatbots that you can interact with.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

And you can see how popular they are by the number people are using those, like every day.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, after a certain amount of time of people communicating with people on the Internet that they've never actually met, who's literally just an avatar, how hard is it to believe that they would eventually just go talk to a computer?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Same thing, no difference.

[Zoe Saldana]

In a lot of ways, I don't.

[Phil Labonte]

Think that there's going to be much problem, you know, for people migrating from talking to, you know, people to chatbots. I think that's going to be.

[Zoe Saldana]

I think as future generations come in and they're less and less social, I think it could absolutely be a problem.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I mean, we already do it now, like you're talking about hey, Siri or hey, Alexa. I don't even want to activate nothing in here. But you already do it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, I don't have a. An Alexa in my house currently, but I had one before I moved to the new place. I loved it.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Mom's BFF Karen.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

They'd be like inappropriate stepmom type stuff.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I mean, the Karen next door. This is creepy. Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah. Magic is already in your phone. Didn't even know it. It's already right there. So it's happening.

[Tim Pool]

It. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Wow. Yeah, we think it's creepy too Anime.

[Zoe Saldana]

But the thing is, I. Doro Noa, Zorro. I do think that as newer generations are, you know, get their first smartphones, they're going to be even less connected to, you know, the human element.

[Tim Pool]

Madara Uchiha.

[Phil Labonte]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Madara Uchiha. We got Prince Vegeta. What else? What else we got in here?

[Phil Labonte]

And Vegeta or Prince Vegeta?

[Tim Pool]

You don't know Prince Vegeta is film?

[Phil Labonte]

No, I don't.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, heavens me.

[Zoe Saldana]

Me.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Gojo. I like Gojo. Beerus is in here. Oh, Monkey D Luffy. You can talk to all of your favorite anime tomorrow.

[Zoe Saldana]

Tim. Seems like no segments. I'm busy talking to my friends on Sasuke.

[Phil Labonte]

Talking to my phone?

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Levi Ackerman. We should connect him with Jordan Peterson.

[Zoe Saldana]

Jordan Peterson. Should create his own.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, boy.

[Zoe Saldana]

AI Chatbot.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That'd be. That'll be something.

[Zoe Saldana]

But you can only listen to it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Sungjin.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

And what if you have one chat bot talk to another chat bot. Yeah, like Jordan Peterson. Chatbot versus one of them. AI Chatbots.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you can. You can create a chatbot and then people can follow it.

[Phil Labonte]

Really?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

People can follow your chatbot.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You have your own chatbot. And my question would be, how does it.

[Tim Pool]

Can I make Phil Labonte bot the Labotti? This is weird. It's just like. It's. It's recommending a bunch that were made by other people, I guess. Is that how it goes?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Was I was supposed.

[Phil Labonte]

So that made me bots.

[Tim Pool]

It's recommending ex. Ex wives. You're still bothering me. What's your excuse this time?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Hilarious.

[Tim Pool]

Where is my son? Dramatic entrance. What makes you think I'd know where he is? Oh, God.

[Zoe Saldana]

Wow. So an absent mother and a. And a deadbeat dad.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Dramatic entrance. So it's like a little. Little role playing type of thing going on.

[Tim Pool]

Don't look at me. He was at your mom's house, like, last I checked, which was during our miserable last conversation. Why panic now? My mom died three years ago. This is fun. I'm going to turn this into a ghost story. No. Oh, my God. Tell me he's been living with a relative. No, it's a ghost. It's a g, G G ghost. She said stop. My heart almost exploded. Are you dumping me with. I didn't even know that Instagram had AI Chatbots.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, Meta started implementing like, the AI profiles a couple years ago because it bolsters their subscriber amounts and bolsters advertising.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, yeah. Okay, you say so it's already here. People talking about AI, they're kind of afraid it's here.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's totally here. I mean, people don't. You know, we talk about this on the show a lot, but like, every Tesla that has full self driving has AI and it's a very complex AI that can make. Can literally manage, you know, multiple lanes of traffic. That's right. And. And have infrequent enough accidents that the federal government doesn't yank it off the road.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, so it's. AI is extremely here. And it's only going to become more and more important.

[Zoe Saldana]

Elon says anything mean about Trump again might get him pulled off the road.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I was at a bar back in 2017. I'm talking to an airline pilot and I'm asking him what he does, and he's like, yeah, I'm a pilot and they're trying to replace me. Like, with what? With AI 2017.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. This is from one of the. Whatever the flight log websites. Two US Air Force KC135T Strato tankers took off from Saudi Arabia and switched to transponders off immediately after takeoff.

[Tim Pool]

Off.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Whoa.

[Phil Labonte]

So. Oh, that's.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man, if the world's going to end, just hurry up. It's the waiting I can't stand. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

All right, look, all I need is enough time. If nuclear weapons fly or whatever, I just need enough time to get to the store and get a pack of Maros.

[Tim Pool]

All right, everybody want to go to your chat. So smash the like button. Share the show with literally everyone you know. Maybe there's a second coming cousin that you have that you didn't even know you had. Go find them. Maybe go on ancestry.com locate some old family members, hit them up and say, are you guys watching Tim cast irl? I'd recommend it. We're gonna have that uncensored call in show coming up at 10pm so make sure you don't miss that. But let's grab your chats for now and see what you guys got going on over on those rumble rants. Shane H. Wilder, always the first chat says when it comes to the riots planned for this weekend, Texas governor Greg Abbott stated that Texas is a state built on the rule of law and tweeted fafo Texans need to get their popcorn. This could be fun. All right, Evan, for us as I may soon be a member of the y y al when it finally goes through, gonna be a part of the yell down here in Texas with Rep. Audrey Lee that used to be the students with Ron Paul, I believe. Let's go.

[Phil Labonte]

That's cool.

[Tim Pool]

Did you see that Rand Paul got disinvited to the pick Nick?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. He's like, they're going to be Democrats that literally would vote for Trump's impeachment and and ran. But Rand Paul can't go. That's Donald Trump.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Okay, what do we got here? Schlippy says, but if you take our slave labor away, then who will pick our crops? Democrats both times. That's quite literally what they're saying.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Same thing.

[Tim Pool]

That's crazy. All right. Guido says finally ABL on irl. That's right.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Tim Pool]

That's right, sir. Liberate USA says, does anyone else agree that if we deport the immigrants en masse, the wages will go up in this country substantially, especially at hard labor jobs like Tyson Chicken plants. Tyson has, has bad conditions.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You're gonna have to.

[Tim Pool]

It's gonna, it's gonna level everything out. So it's, it's, it's good and bad, but ultimately in the long run, I think it's good. What ends up happening is at the highest level, the profits are going to be stripped down to very, very small amounts as they have to increase conditions, they have to improve conditions and pay more to the lowest worker. Food prices will likely go up, but the wealthiest will. It'll go down. I think overall net improvement for economic activity, meaning more working class people can afford to buy things, meaning more trade amongst the working people. But powerful people will lose power. They don't want to do that. Hence, they like that. Hence Christy Walton, whose family runs a company that is one of the largest recipient. Largest companies. How do you say this? They employ the most welfare benefit recipients. Yeah, it's been, it's been reported. And they don't, they don't want to lose that. They tell their employees, just go get welfare if you can't afford to work here. So we all. The taxpayer pays for Walmart for their profits. That's crazy.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

All by design. They get the, the wages down to the amount where they know you have to get government benefits. That's the whole thing.

[Tim Pool]

All right. The emperor's champion says, I want more of whatever makes Gavin Newsom and Hasan Piker cry. Their tears of unfathomable sadness are delicious. Oh, cry, comma. There's no comma there, but there should be. Their tears of unfathomable sadness are delicious and an excellent additive to your choice of cast brew coffee. Well, okay. All right. Brian says, if I were an adversary nation that wanted to keep the US Sidelined with internal issues, I might fund and agitate riots and civil war fears. Just saying. Yes. I wonder what happens if we do go to war with Iran. Iran's not Afghanistan.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't, I don't get the sense that we're going to try to do a regime change there and put boots on the ground. I think it's about the nuclear weapons.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

If we do that, it's. It's over. Because you're dealing with. The whole region would react. All the different types of Islam, all the different militia groups, everybody. Yemen. Oh, my. Iran, Iraq, all of that. Pakistan, everybody.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. I think bad news.

[Tim Pool]

I think we'll be all right here in West Virginia.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I think so. I don't. I. Like I said, I think that. I don't think Pakistan will do anything because I think they're, they're concerned with, with, they're still concerned with India or their primary concern is still India. And as for, you know, I don't think that we'll get, like I said, I don't think that we'll get boots on the ground. I think that this is, would be strictly about nuclear weapons. It won't be about putting people into, into Tehran to change the, the government or whatever. It'll just be like, you can't have a nuclear weapon and we're going to blow up this stuff that you're using to make it. So I don't think it's a good thing. I'm not saying that we should, but I don't think that it turns into, you know, regime change, Iran.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta be honest, I think there's a possibility that even if Israel does strike Iranian nuclear facilities, nothing happens.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Stuxnet was a weapon created by Israel and the United States. It infected computers all across the globe and it was seeking out Iranian centrifuges, industrial control systems. Once it found it, it took them over, spun them until they exploded, wiping out their nuclear program. Nothing happened. So I don't know that, you know, it's tough, man. It's like if some dude intentionally rear ends your car, you have the choice to make of getting into it with him or backing away because this guy's crazy and he might actually cause sustaining damage. More, more damage.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Iran might say we, we lose this one, there's nothing we gain from going to war with the United States. But, but if their population says we don't know or care, you know, bring it on, then.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And it goes, yeah, I, I, it's my understanding that the population is not in line with the mullahs and with the government generally, that they want to be more westernized, but they're, you know, fairly oppressed and, and limited to what they can say, so. But I, but yeah, I share your, your sentiment. I don't think that it turns into a wider.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Joe Spinel says President George H.W. bush invoked the Insurrection act and deployed approximately 1,500 Marines from Camp Pendleton to quell the 92 LA unrest. Colin Powell talked him out of lethal use of force.

[Phil Labonte]

Whoa.

[Tim Pool]

Aaron Stanley says irony is the fact that California made it to where you can't have high capacity magazines and you have to have a button on your AR15 to press each time you fire a round. So if their militia tries to fight back, they're not going to stand a chance. That's weird.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, they do have weird gun laws in California. But I, if you, if you understand the gun laws in California, you know that these changes and modifications are extremely temporary. Like most people in California, even if they're walking around with their guns in illegal condition, they can be made, you know, to be illegal and a standard rifle fairly easily.

[Zoe Saldana]

So wait, so a button on it.

[Phil Labonte]

To then reload it. It's called the bullet button. You can't just so chamber around. Well for an AR15 you have to, there, you have to release the magazine. You push a button, releases the magazine. They can't have, in California you can't have a magazine that's over 10 rounds and you can't release the magazine. It can't be detachable. So it actually, to take the button out there's a, or to take the magazine out there's a button. You have to have a tool to take it out to change it. It.

[Zoe Saldana]

So every time you want to put in a new magazine.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, they, and they do have, there's, there are different contraptions that people have designed so that way you don't have to either split the, the upper and lower receiver in half or use the bullet button. But yeah, you can't, you can't have like a magazine that is you have.

[Tim Pool]

A ten round mag.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You screw it and lock it in place. And once you're done you have to take the gun apart.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, you take the magazine out. Or like I said, there are doohickeys and things where you can literally take a. It's like a, it's almost like a clip that you put into the ejection port. You can shove 10 rounds in. There's all kinds of ways that people have come come up with to get around these regulations or to make reloading easier. But all of the stuff that you have to do, none of it's permanent because it's just like AR15s or Lego kits. So most people, like, even if their rifle is set up to be legal, it can extremely easily be retrofitted to be, you know, to, to be a standard AR15.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I mean if it was just like that and you couldn't change it, that'd be ridiculous. It's like, come on. And then the whole 10 rounds thing, it's like come on, what are we doing?

[Phil Labonte]

It's a lot of ridiculous stuff. But if I understand correctly and this is not, this isn't from like first hand experience. I haven't spent a lot of time shooting in California. But if I understand correctly Most people have, like, a couple of the legal things and then a whole slew of stuff that they only take out when they go out into the desert to shoot, you know? Okay, so.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's go. What do we have here? We got Daniel Lee says, Tim, Young buck here, only 34 years old, born in 1990. I tune into politics every day and would consider myself somewhat informed. With that said, I don't recognize this world and all of the insanity we see see day in, day out anymore. Where did it all go wrong? Early 2010s?

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

So was there, like, a specific thing that happened or was it social media?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, everyone's brain is jello.

[Zoe Saldana]

Your phone like, your phone getting the Internet?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, not only that. Like, I think the. I think people don't actually realize how. How important the. The fact that it vibrates to let you know, like, that physical poke to say, hey, someone looked at something that you said. Granted, most people nowadays, like, leave them off or don't.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah, I turn all of that off. No notifications, no vibrations.

[Phil Labonte]

100.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

I have to look at my phone to see it.

[Phil Labonte]

But look at. Look at your, you know, your career, your job. You are in kind of like the social media space. If you're a person that has, like, a normal job, like, working in any kind of, like, anything you would consider, like, you know, an office or, like, in a machine shop or whatever. How many. How many messages you think you get? How many. How many likes do you think your stuff gets a day? You know, if you get two or three in a day as big, that's probably a lot. If you're. Especially if you're not a teenager, if you're an adult who's got a normal job, you know, it's like if you get three, four notifications in a day, that's probably a lot. So that vibrate and that little poke saying, hey, someone looked at your stuff, that is like affirmation. That is like. Yeah, it's like drip of dopamine, man.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we were.

[Phil Labonte]

That's why they're so addicting.

[Tim Pool]

Alison, I were talking about this, about what the future's gonna be like for our daughter. No cell phones. We're not gonna have. I think I might get, like, an old computer that. With no access to the Internet and programs on it so she can learn basic, you know, stuff. But my wife was like, should we get a landline? That way she can call her friends. And I was like, now what's going.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

To happen is the friends, if she gets around, are going to have these things. And now it's gonna. No. No friends have those things.

[Tim Pool]

Nope. We're gonna. We're gonna go into an emergency underground bunker and claim the world was annihilated for 30 years. She's not dating till she's 50.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Hilarious.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I don't know. Because we don't know what's going to look like. I mean, it's easy to be like, I don't want my kid using a phone. It ain't gonna be phones in 20 years.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, no.

[Tim Pool]

In, you know, 15 years from now. She's a teenager, people are going to be flying around and doing who knows what.

[Zoe Saldana]

Well, we were. I was promised flying cars by this age, and all we have are AI gay communists.

[Tim Pool]

No, we have flying cars. They act. Yes, they're. I talked with Secretary Duffy about this. They've been doing testing on air taxis. So they.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You.

[Tim Pool]

You expect to see them in big cities going from building to building. Yup. Was it Kaisernet? Didn't he. Didn't he fly in one air taxi?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Interesting.

[Tim Pool]

He's the guy who's shocked by everything, right?

[Zoe Saldana]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

He went. And when he was like, whoa. It's like, really cool.

[Zoe Saldana]

Him and I show speed. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, they're both.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

He went to China. That was interesting. You see?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Oh, it was speed who did it.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Okay. Was it China?

[Tim Pool]

It was speed.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. They're both surprised by everything, kind of.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's fun content. They do.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What do we got here?

[Zoe Saldana]

Do you see his. Like, he started. Kai Sanat started, like, a streamers university.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, yes.

[Zoe Saldana]

And he did this Harry Potter, like, launch video that was better than anything Hollywood's made in, like, 20 years.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The crazy thing is that people are starting to make AI videos that are better than anything Hollywood.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

There was a. Some. A couple star. Excuse me. A couple Star wars ones that were going around getting a lot of. A lot of retweets and stuff over the weekend.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

There was one that had Bigfoot. Have you guys seen this?

[Tim Pool]

Well, the Bigfoot vlogging.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah. I was like, hey, guys, here at Mr. Squirrel, we're having a good time.

[Zoe Saldana]

I like the. I like the biblical characters. Vlogging.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh, yeah. With Jesus.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Saw one of the. One of the. I saw one where there was a gorilla, like. And he sounded like the dude from the Big Lebowski.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

He's like, look, man, there's a lot of people talking about a hundred guys taking me on, and I'm like, look, man, you know, it's really good Nowadays, they're coming up with some pretty good stuff.

[Zoe Saldana]

I mean, everything on the Internet, I was getting closer to brain rot. Like, my algorithm is so cooked. Like, half the videos on my Instagram are like, a cat catches, like a mom not taking care of her child, takes the child, raises the child and gives it back to the mom. And I just know that some Chinese bot farm as far, is just taking all my information as I watch this.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah, totally. The fact that you're watching it is, is how, you know, I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't know where the, the AI stuff is going to go, but I am interested to see if Tim's prediction about actual creations of. Of like your own.

[Tim Pool]

We're already there. Fable Studio.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, Fable Studios. Well, I'm. The question I'm actually asking, I guess is is it going to actually become the most popular form of entertainment or not?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think. I think people are gonna go insane because, like anybody who's ever gotten cheat codes in a video game, you get bored very quickly.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

When you can watch anything at any point, people are going to be like, I don't want to watch anything.

[Zoe Saldana]

That was kind of my. My lot. Like, when you first brought it up, I was like, if somebody, if I had to come home from work and they're like, now I have to make the movie. I don't want to make the movie.

[Tim Pool]

But here's what I think.

[Zoe Saldana]

Even with a prompt, I don't want to make them.

[Tim Pool]

You would just follow Serge. You'd be. Serge would have a. Like, right now, these meta AIs, the chatbots, they're created by users and some of them have millions of followers that was created by somebody. So you're going to log into your Disney or whatever and there's going to be an account, a user account for, you know, like, Serge, for whatever. Serge is going to make a bunch of movies. He's going to like, these are. These are really good. And then people are going to thumbs up them and the algorithm is going to promote them and say, discovery. And you're going to be like, what's the latest movie today? And it's going to be Star Wars Episode 946. The Jedi came back for the 57th time and then left again. And you're going to be like, that sounds funny. You're gonna watch it and you're like, wow, it's really good. It's like, follow Serge. And then you're gonna come home from work and look at the movies. He's made.

[Zoe Saldana]

I'm gonna be like, look, like the first 956 episodes are average, but once you get to episode 957, it really picks up.

[Tim Pool]

I actually think people might go outside.

[Zoe Saldana]

That would be good.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah, people want that interaction with actual human beings. They still want that.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, it's because you'll get wild prediction, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

It's because there'll be no, there's, there's, there's no mystery anymore in, in AI generated film. So for instance, let's say you play a video game, you beat it, you're like, that was fun. Now I'm going to play the game with cheat codes. You play it for a little while, it's fun for a second, and then you get bored and you're like, eh. Without the game, there's nothing to. It's not worth doing. So with movies you're like, don't spoil the movie for you. Don't. Don't spoil it. No such thing as not spoiling a movie after this. Every movie is going to be like, I don't know, it's all just random. Who knows what's the mystery, right?

[Zoe Saldana]

I mean, but I like the, like when I watch movies, I like watching the like the full amount of work made by hundreds of people. Like when I see a mistake in a movie, I actually enjoy it. Like when I see some type of script error or error or incontinenity, I'm like, look, that was a group of people that made that. And the idea that I would then watch an AI movie. And then now when you watch the AI AI clips, Phil, we looked at the, looked at the one like last week where the guys are shooting the AR15s and their hands aren't even on the trigger. Like I, that's not novel to me, that's not interesting. And to me it's more about looking at the vision of a director combined with the work of like a hundred other people between actors and set designers and all that stuff. But I do think that there is an argument to be made that as the generations continue that, that younger generations won't have that affinity because they didn't grow up with that being the primary source of entertainment. So maybe not Gen Z, but Gen Alpha and beyond.

[Tim Pool]

Where will shared culture come from when, when kids hang out because they're, you know, all the kids today, they love Sabrina Carpenter, so they're all running around outside with their Sabrina Carpenter masks on. What's, what's going to happen in the.

[Zoe Saldana]

Future they should not be emulating.

[Tim Pool]

I'm kidding. Nobody is. My point is like, if little kids go to the store and buy Spider man stuff, that that IP might exist. I mean, we might get locked in that IP forever. I mean, already at the point where nobody wants to make something new.

[Zoe Saldana]

No, people do. They don't want to spend the money on it.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Do you think AI could spark new things? New IPs?

[Tim Pool]

Yes. Yeah, but I don't know if they can become popular enough because everyone will be doing it. I mean, maybe like I said, you might follow somebody. So I was saying, like my boy Andy, for instance, the biggest Final Fantasy nerd in the, in the world. No one knows more than he does does. If he had. Look, I can right now on Gemini make a game that's better than Atari. So it's like between Atari and Nintendo level of gameplay. Maybe not quite at Nintendo, but Atari, I'd say a year from now we're going to be at SNES levels.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or Genesis levels. So imagine if in two years, three years, you can tell the AI, make me a full fledged JRPG with these mechanics. Now if someone's got a masterful knowledge of the whole lore of Final Fantasy, meaning they know what, why the games were popular, they know where the characters were liked and which characters weren't and they say, here's a story I want crafted. They'll he's gonna make a series of great games, people are gonna follow him and then he's gonna have 10 million followers and everyone's gonna be like, I love this character. I love this story.

[Zoe Saldana]

I love this IP that requires you to care a lot about the canon and know a lot about it too though. Because a lot of people, they just kind of pawn off your understanding of the canon to the company that owns the IP to distinguish, this is the one who decides what's canon for these characters in this story. But if you're going to go to 900 people making different final fantasies that could be with varying levels of understanding.

[Tim Pool]

Of the character, it's not going to be Final Fantasy. He wouldn't have the legal rights to it. He's going to create, you know, First Fantasy and he's going to create unique characters.

[Zoe Saldana]

First Fantasy.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. It's just that anyone's going to be able to make AAA games and, and Hollywood style movies a list movies. So the question really comes down to who's got the best imagination. And you know what's funny is we're already in the attention economy. You make money right now by holding the attention of random people. That's where most money is is like not most, but like a lot of money is being derived from. Once AI automates most of these white collar jobs, it's going to be attention economy times 10, 10 once we start building robots that we've already got. Have you seen the automated McDonald's where the it take an arm, comes and grabs the fries and then makes it all. I mean, we got kiosks, we got ice cream vending machine. Like these ice cream vending machines have been for a decade. You walk up and there's a little ice cream man. It's like a little robot. And then he grabs the cup and then he pulls the lever. I love it when they mess up though, because it's just chaos and they're flinging the ice cream all over the place. But once we get rid of labor. I was thinking about this with Harry Potter. I forgot. What, something came up where we were talking about Harry Potter, I think because millennials have, have no. No other references. But how do they have money, right? The idea is like in the Harry Potter universe, when you have magic, how could you have a job and why would you need money if you can just snap your wand and then make a house appear or something like that? And the reality is because so long as some people have skills that other people do not have have, there's going to have to be a trade between the individuals and the skills they do and don't have. So even if there is magic, if one guy's really good at making potions, the other guy's really good at, you know, levitating bricks, then the bricks levitating guy is going to be like, I'll build your house overnight. Give me an hour. Make me a potion, you know, so once we get to the AI world, it's going to be whatever skills you have in that world, no matter how minuscule that skill may be, if someone else can't do it, they're going to trade their skill to you for it. And there will be money, money, and there will be exchange. Everyone will be fat because food will be replicated or mass produced. They'll all be sickly probably. Actually, maybe not. AI will create medical cures and all that stuff, but the, the money you get will be used for things like, honestly, paying other creators for special content. You know what I love right now? I call it the black hole economy. These online, these phone games, there's like, there's like one game I play. It's a golf game where you have a little golf ball and you'll like, you'll poke the ball and it launches in the air. But you can buy power Ups.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And I saw that, and it was like, for a dollar, you can get, like, better aim or something. And I said, where does that dollar go? It just goes into the pocket of that guy to buy food with. But I buy that. I'm not actually getting anything. It's just changing a value from 0 to 1 and then back to 0 after I use it. So we have right now with. With video games and online games, they're not even making anything. Yo, I can make a game where your spaceship and every bullet costs a dollar. You know, I'm gonna do it. It's a great idea. Here's. Here's the game. In order to fire the spaceship's gun at the aliens, you got to buy a bullet pack. And bullets cost a dollar each. However, we display the high score on the front page of the app so you can see who's got the most aliens killed, basically, who. Who spent the most money. But the money doesn't go anywhere. I'm not giving them anything. It's like, I'm not creating anything. That's where we're headed.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

You're. You're buying a privilege in the game world. Micro. Microtransactions.

[Zoe Saldana]

Microtransactions.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah, that's. That's a big economy.

[Tim Pool]

Make a game war. In order to start the game, you got to pay a dollar. Arcade mode. Got to buy a credit, and then the game starts. There you go.

[Phil Labonte]

Arcade mode is. Is a good idea.

[Tim Pool]

It is actually funny that games used to cost money to play. Now games are free, but the bonuses cost the money.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Winning costs money when it costs.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah. Pay to win.

[Phil Labonte]

You can play for free. Winning costs.

[Tim Pool]

Imagine going to an arcade and all the games are free, but you can't win unless you put a quarter in. It's like you get to the boss and it's like he's invincible until you put the quarter in.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Right.

[Zoe Saldana]

It's like the line in Wayne's World when the guy says, like, he's like, the. The trick is you can't get to the next level, so the kids keep pumping in quarters.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, there was a. A game. I can't remember what game it was. Might have been Bubsy or something for Genesis, I think, where the developers couldn't finish it in time, so they just made one. Like in the middle of one of the levels, they made a jump you couldn't possibly complete so they could ship the game. I can't remember what Game.

[Zoe Saldana]

It was like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah, but back then, I mean they had to because you couldn't do any kind of patching. The game was the game Y and.

[Tim Pool]

They were like the game's got to go out and we got to sell it. We have a contract and deadline. So they were like, but we haven't finished into the last level. Levels just make an impossible jump. So everyone will beat it. Yeah. For that, for that matter. I was watching a video the other day of a guy, he was like no one's ever beaten the game. Kid Icarus for nes. Do you guys remember that one?

[Phil Labonte]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Of course people have. But he's like how come no one's ever actually showed a playthrough and beaten this game? And then he played it. It's like insanely hard game for kids. Mega. The first Mega Man 3.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Oh yeah. Super hard.

[Tim Pool]

I think Mega Man 1 was the hardest. Hardest?

[Phil Labonte]

Was it the hardest?

[Tim Pool]

I. I'm not saying it was hardest for me. I'm saying I think rank wise they say Mega Man 1's the hardest. Mega Man 6 was easy. That was a good game though. Mega man was a great series.

[Phil Labonte]

Mega man, the whole franchise was really, really.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, really great. All right, we got Peyton Walters says love abl. Shout out.

[Zoe Saldana]

Let's go.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Shout out.

[Tim Pool]

Shout out your fave Fister says I work for a law enforcement distributor and we are now out of stock on any less lethal non lethal or chemical munitions. Munitions. Every manufacturer I've spoken to is out and is now quoting a 180 lead. Time for new orders. That's crazy. You know what's crazy is that my understanding is that you can't buy the, the less lethal munitions, Private.

[Phil Labonte]

You can't get them. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that like that's less lethal. Stuff you can't get. It's hard to get good smoke bombs. Yeah, you can't get.

[Tim Pool]

That's weird. It's like you can, you can get 308.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But you can't get a foam round.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

That's weird.

[Tim Pool]

But you can buy rubber buckshot.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

For bears. They, I think they sought to scare off bears. I think we, I think we had a bunch of those. Doesn't. You don't want to hurt them. Just want to get them to leave, you know?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Give them a little, little tap with that. Rubber indeed. I wonder what that means. And I wonder where we're going. It's gonna get crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

Crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Jake T says New England are here. Black bears are large Raccoons and run away from noise. Poly Pur says Tim is right. The YouTube show Scary Bear Attacks has a lot of black bear attacks. I think the issue is that black bears are not likely to attack, but when they do, they intend to kill. That's the point.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Scott Colomb says, I live in Upper Michigan, and we have lots of black bears. They are mostly scared of people. They will only engage the person if it's starving or if you're threatening their cubs. Indeed. But that. But that's not that. That wasn't the point. The point was if you are attacked by a black bear, it intends to kill you, whereas grizzlies will. They'll. They'll roll you around. But then if you're. If you're just limp, they'll, like, walk away. Not always. Polar bears just eat you. Polar bear will look at you and be like, food.

[Phil Labonte]

You are a meal.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. They say if it's. If it's. If it's brown, lay down if it's black, fight back if it's white. Good night.

[Phil Labonte]

Night.

[Tim Pool]

Or just, you know, carry what you need to carry in the places you tend to go. That. The appropriate tools for defending yourself.

[Phil Labonte]

You shouldn't be anywhere where the polar bears go. That is.

[Tim Pool]

That's not true.

[Phil Labonte]

That is their home.

[Tim Pool]

That is. That is incorrect.

[Phil Labonte]

Why?

[Tim Pool]

Because polar bears are all over the. The Arctic region, and there's residential areas where they say there's polar bears all the time. When. When. When I went to uk, we call it Barrow. Barrow is its name. They told us that we couldn't go to a certain location because they just spotted a polar bear, and it was literally like, I don't know, a hundred yards from a house. And they're like, yeah, there's polar bears. It's probably.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Probably a very sparsely populated area. You might have, like, a few hundred people, maybe in that area.

[Tim Pool]

UTGVic is maybe a thousand.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. It's funny because it's called Barrow, but the name was officially changed to utkiagv trick because, like, 70 people showed up to the town hall meeting to vote. And that's what happens. Activists vote, conservatives don't. Oh, it's 4972.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Cool place, Cool place. But they told us there was a polar bear sighting, so we. They didn't want us going out to a certain location. Got to go there, and I got to go to the whale bones. That was very fun. It was very cool. We had sushi when we went, yeah, there's no trees. And everything is mud in the summer because nothing can grow in the Arctic Circle, right? Things can, but trees don't. And so they ship everything in by plane and by boat so you can get, you know, pizza and burgers and.

[Zoe Saldana]

Cost a fortune.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Shipping it pretty far. And then to get to your location, I imagine, is not necessarily that easy. Or can you just fly straight in?

[Tim Pool]

You fly straight in.

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. They have daily flights now, and we were talking to people there, and they said before the daily flights, it was like once a year, a big ship would come with all of the stuff you needed, like washing machines, dryers, or whatever, and they'd all cheer as the boat came in. That's cool.

[Zoe Saldana]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Fairbanks was fun, too. All right, we're going to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button. Share the show with literally everyone you know. Your children only if they're adults. Give them a call and say, son, it's been a minute, but you got to watch Tim cast irl. The uncensored members only portion of the show is coming up right [e-mail]. you don't want to miss it. You can follow me on X and Instagram. Timcastabl. Do you want to shout anything out?

[Anthony Brian Logan]

Definitely. You can follow me. YouTube, ABL, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, everywhere ABL.

[Zoe Saldana]

Check me out, guys, if you want to follow me. I'm on Instagram and Twix. Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. Pop Culture Crisis is live Monday through Friday, 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time, which is of course noon Pacific. You should come hang out.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that Remains on Twix. I'm Phil that Remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. You can check out our new record entitled Anti Fragile. You can find it on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Deezer. And don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

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