Trump To Deploy National Guard To Chicago, Baltimore, Democrats Call To Resist w/ Josh Hammer

Summary

Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – Trump To Deploy National Guard To Chicago, Baltimore, Democrats Call To Resist w/ Josh Hammer

Date: September 3, 2025
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Guests: Josh Hammer (Newsweek, NatCon Speaker), Tate Brown (Producer), Phil Labonte (All That Remains)
Main Theme:
This episode dives deep into Donald Trump’s announcement to deploy the National Guard into crime-ridden U.S. cities such as Chicago and Baltimore, the Democratic pushback, the broader societal crises facing America, and the underlying social, demographic, and cultural factors accelerating U.S. decline. The conversation is wide-ranging and philosophical, grounded in current events but spiraling into generational analysis, future collapse, and cultural war topics.

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1. Trump’s National Guard Deployment: Political & Social Fallout

Timestamps:

• [01:15]–[10:35]: Tim Pool returns, debunks Trump death hoax, headlines Trump’s plan to send National Guard to Chicago & Baltimore
• [13:11]–[16:21]: Discussion on public opinion and city crime rates
• [32:57]–[34:51]: Will it work? Legal questions, Democratic cities' failure, and the politics of law and order

Key Points:

• Trump’s Plan: Trump announced he'd send in the National Guard to Chicago and Baltimore to tackle rampant crime. This draws immediate outrage from Democratic leaders, particularly Illinois Governor and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.
• Local vs Federal Control: Chicago leaders allege Trump merely seeks a "secret police force for publicity stunts" ([06:42]).
• Tim Pool’s Personal Take:
  • "I’m from the south side of Chicago... please, Trump, thank you. Get it done. Because no young person in this country should have to grow up in a city where their friends witness corpses being dragged through alleys, where they get randomly shot at, and where their friends are forced to join gangs by murdering people." ([01:35])
  • "If we had National Guard, it'd been fantastic... police would never do anything about it." ([09:31])
• Crime and Corruption in Chicago: Discussion of infamous corruption and brutality, mentioning “black site” detentions and notorious police torturer Jon Burge ([09:25]).
• Josh Hammer’s Analysis:
  • "This is what I call the art of the 80/20 issue for Donald Trump… Forcing [Democrats] to oppose sending in some sort of federal help..." ([13:11])
  • “Chicago is the bloodiest American city, bar none. I lived there for a few years… It’s gotten a hell of a lot worse since I graduated…” ([13:35])
• Phil Labonte: "Policing works, right? If you have police on the street, it disincentivizes people to commit crimes..." ([10:40])

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2. The Population Crisis: Fertility, Demographics, and Civilizational Survival

Timestamps:

• [16:21]–[25:24]: The U.S. population collapse, generational shifts, and the futility of policies that try to compensate
• [19:00]–[24:39]: Fourth Turning theory, the mortality cliff, and coming social/economic collapse

Key Points:

• Fertility Decline & Social Consequences:
  • Tim Pool warns of a coming "mortality cliff" as boomers die off, with too few young people to replace them:
    "We expect there to be a massive… drop off in the consumer market… you’re not going to be able to buy strawberries at your grocery store. Your grocery stores are probably going to go out of business." ([22:57])
• Replacement By Immigration Isn’t A Solution:
  • "You’re not going to replace your petroleum engineers with Honduran farmers."
  • "Even Democrats know this. They continuously say, 'Oh, who’s going to pick the fruit?' That’s not really what you want immigration for." ([28:27])
• Global Nature of the Crisis: Even India and sub-Saharan Africa are seeing rapidly dropping birth rates ([25:02]).

Memorable Quote:

• "You cannot simultaneously have low fertility and no immigration. Immigration isn’t a solution, by the way. It’s a band-aid on a bullet wound." – Tim Pool ([17:30])

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3. Cultural Fragmentation, Nihilism, and the Collapse of Shared Purpose

Timestamps:

• [30:00]–[36:01]: Cultural pessimism, political hysteria, and generational nihilism
• [38:00]–[44:00]: Social breakdown and the media's obsession with Trump

Key Points:

• Media & Political Hysteria:
  • Left-wing conspiracy theories about Trump being dead during Labor Day break are lampooned as "cultish" and symptoms of the left’s broken political identity ([35:00]).
  • "How do we function as a country when half the population is deranged?" – Tim Pool ([37:18])
• Modern Political Tribalism:
  • Democratic Party trapped between "progressives and what you’d consider normal Democrats." ([40:02])
  • "Civilizational sanity versus civilizational arson." – Josh Hammer ([41:42])

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4. Economic Realities: Underemployment, Welfare, and the Need for Purpose

Timestamps:

• [60:17]–[63:30]: Generational detachment from reality, underemployment, NEET culture
• [65:18]–[70:29]: The importance of religion and family formation

Key Points:

• Underemployment and Lack of Drive:
  • "If every single person had all of their needs met, what job would ever get done?... the neat generation... people who live in the basements... and don’t get jobs because their needs are met." ([63:30])
• Declining Community and Religion:
  • "The closest thing I can think of to a one-stop panacea to put America back on the right track would be to put more Americans back in God-fearing churches." – Josh Hammer ([66:17])
• Purpose and Family:
  • The collapse of family and marriage leads to the collapse of all other institutions.
  • "Women have always been picky... just work harder." – Tim Pool ([70:35], [115:00])

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5. Changing Social Institutions: Dating, Marriage, and the New Matchmaking Crisis

Timestamps:

• [71:18]–[74:03]: Dating app effect, workplace romance now taboo, collapse of old matchmaking routes
• [75:56]–[76:46]: Handmaid’s Tale and the dystopian possibilities of enforced reproduction

Key Points:

• “Zoomer” Dating Market Dysfunction:
  • "There’s just a lack of drive. So young men are having a problem leading… they don’t know what they’re leading the women to." ([69:31])
  • "I met my wife at work. Yo, good luck, Gen Z." ([71:57])
• Speculative Dystopian Solutions:
  • Joke on state-mandated marriages as a solution to demographic collapse ([73:03]).

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6. Consumer Behavior, Economic Redesign, and the End of Institutions

Timestamps:

• [84:02]–[94:30]: No tax on tips (“Trump’s gift to bartenders, strippers, streamers”), collapse of strip clubs, the casino boom, end of family-oriented businesses
• [91:39]–[92:26]: Vanishing amenities for children, amusement parks and zoos failing

Key Points:

• Shifting Economy:
  • Strip clubs are shutting down because "there are no young people to go to strip clubs and give money to strippers" ([85:23]).
  • Casinos and slot machines are everywhere; amusement parks and zoos are closing due to lack of families and children ([92:07]).
• Consumer Market Realities:
  • "The less a society has children, the more expensive it becomes to have children because the market doesn’t cater." ([94:03])

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7. Broader and Future Trends: Urban Consolidation, Infrastructure Decay, Return to Localism

Timestamps:

• [95:09]–[98:02]: Urban depopulation, city collapse, the creeping return to “pre-modern” localism

Key Points:

• Urban Decline:
  • U.S. cities will hollow out, with only the largest, best-governed cities surviving. The rest will experience growing decay and infrastructure collapse ([96:14], [97:27]).
• Return to Local Community:
  • Prediction that America is heading toward a society similar to the 1700s with hyper-localization due to technological, social, and demographic regression ([78:27]).

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8. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You’re not going to replace your petroleum engineers with Honduran farmers." – Tim Pool ([28:27])
• "The art of the 80/20 issue for Donald Trump… he’s a master at putting Democrats in a no-win situation." – Josh Hammer ([13:11])
• "When infrastructure and resources crumble and collapse, you will get fighting. Trump is deploying the National Guard to US Cities. This is another escalation. And, and I’M gonna say I predicted it." – Tim Pool ([50:09])
• "There has to be a low class of people who are struggling and work as hard as they can… If every single person had all of their needs met, what job would ever get done?" – Tim Pool ([62:53])
• "If I could flip a switch and do literally one thing… the closest thing that I can think to, to a one, two stop panacea to put America back on the right track would be to put more Americans back in God fearing churches." – Josh Hammer ([66:17])

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9. Episode Flow & Tone

• Tone: Bracing, independent, skeptical of all establishment politics, peppered with personal anecdotes and irreverent humor. The show quickly pivots from the headline story (Trump’s National Guard move) into deep, structural analysis of American (and Western) decline and cultural shift.
• Running Themes:
  • Hyper-partisanship and the media’s obsession with Trump
  • The futility of top-down, reactive policies (such as sending troops) in the face of deeper demographic and cultural decay
  • Enduring need for strong family, religious, and community bonds as the only long-term solution

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10. Additional Segments

• Trump Death Hoax and Media Meltdown ([35:00–39:10]): Eviscerating left-wing social media for obsessing over a baseless rumour that Trump had died because he was absent during Labor Day.
• Democratic Party Civil War ([40:02–44:00]): Debates over whether “normie Dems” or progressives are the problem and whether the left can recover direction.
• Cultural Satire: Mockery of state-mandated marriage (“Department of Marriage Administration – you get what you get, brother!”), and dark jokes about society’s economic and demographic collapse.

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11. Conclusion

Tim returns in full force, anchoring an episode that spirals from breaking news to sweeping generational, cultural, and economic theory. The show repeatedly frames direct political action (like Trump’s troop deployment) as Band-Aids over wounds caused by decades of policy and cultural rot. The hosts and guests forecast a looming crisis that’s demographic, economic, moral, and spiritual, insisting that only a complete rebirth of family, faith, and community can reverse American decline.

Transcript

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[A]

Donald Trump is alive. Wow. While I'd been out, I had heard over and over again from liberals that Trump had died. It was trending and they said, where is he? They were posting pictures of him claiming he was sick and he's completely fine. Everything looks normal. And I'm gonna give you guys the truth. It was Labor Day weekend. That's it. Trump was probably just like, it's Labor Day. I'm gonna hang out my family. And then, because without Trump, they have nothing to say. They have no political ideology, they have no goals other than Trump is bad. The only thing they could muster up to get clicks on the Internet was that Trump must be dead. Otherwise where would he go? They can't live without him. Okay, well, that was all fake news and it was hilarious. But the big news is that Trump has announced he was asked and he says he's going to be sending in feds or the National Guard specifically is what he was asked about into Chicago and Baltimore. And the governor of Illinois and the mayor are losing their minds. I, as all of you know, I'm from the south side of Chicago and I say, please, Trump, thank you. Get it done. Because no young person in this country should have to grow up in a city where their friends witness corpses being dragged through alleys, where they get randomly shot at, and where their friends are forced to join gangs by murdering people. But that's Chicago, and we can talk all about it now than that. There is a bunch of other really big news. 33 some odd thousand Epstein files have been released, and we don't know exactly what's in them yet because they just got dropped. But a lot of people are saying, yeah, been there, done that. Nothing new is in these documents, so we'll talk about that and more. And yes, ladies and gentlemen, I have returned. For those that are wondering where I was, it's funny, all the conspiracy theories, the most offensive ones are that I was on vacation. That was the most offensive because as I explained to my friends, my ego is the size of this building. And being unable to talk for three weeks, I was the embodiment of that meme of the kid in the school shaking with veins popping out of his skull. No, I, I. Over the past several weeks, as I actually had explained on the show, when I was getting sick, I'm like, man, I'm getting sick. And I keep working and I wouldn't stop. And so it got worse and worse until I got so sick I ended up in the error. And my throat was extremely swollen with viral pharyngitis, which after about a week abated. And then my throat was, was tore up and I couldn't really talk without mass, like, serious discomfort. They gave me methylprednisolone, which I hated and didn't want to take. And they said, take ibuprofen. And I'm like, I can't do this. I wasn't able to work, so I worked on other things. But here we are. I have returned. Let's get to the news. Before we do, my friends, we got a great sponsor. 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[C]

Tim, great to be with you man. Josh Hammer here, first time here in the studio. So it's a, it's really a pleasure in town for, for natcon, the national Good Surgism conference. Taking over, taking part over in D.C. it's off to a great start. I'm speaking tomorrow morning but for now, Tim, just trying to crush these next couple hours with you, my friend.

[A]

Right on. Thanks for Hanging out. Producer Tate's hanging out.

[D]

What's up, guys? Tate Brown here. I'm not doing a lot imitation with the suit. I was at natcon as well. So we're doing some coverage on Tim Cast News if you want to see what's going on over there. Obviously, Josh will be speaking tomorrow, so if we're lucky, maybe we'll get an interview. I don't know. We'll see what happens, but yeah.

[E]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil labonte. I'm the lead singer, the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[A]

Here's a story from Reuters. My friends, we are going in. Trump to send National Guard troops to Chicago. And I say thank you, Mr. President. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he would deploy National Guard troops to fight crime in Chicago, an extraordinary effort to militarize country's third largest city that was likely to trigger a legal battle with local officials. We're going in. I didn't say when, but we're going in. Trump told reporters at the White House. Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson swiftly condemned the action. Quote, he just wants his own secret police force that will do publicity stunts whenever his poll numbers are sinking, whenever his jobs report shows a stagnating economy, whenever he needs another distraction from his failures. Hours earlier, a federal judge blocked Trump's Trump. The Trump administration from using military to fight crime in California, a ruling that does not apply to other states. But the judge said the Trump stated desire to send troops to Chicago and other cities provided support for his ruling. Now we also have this from the ap. Trump says he will order federal intervention in Chicago and Baltimore despite local opposition. Now, this is what I just, I just can't stand. Okay, local opposition. What does that really mean? Well, I grew up in Chicago. I grew up on the south side of Chicago. My friends and I have witnessed gang violence. I remember this so vividly. My friend talking to me on the phone saying, wait, hold on, dude, there's two people dragging a corpse through the alley right now. The next day on the news, dead body found in a dumpster. And we were like, wow. The hot dog shop one block away from where I grew up had bulletproof windows with bullet holes in them from being shot at. And it's kind of crazy because you grow up like that and you're like, this is just the way things are, I guess. And then you get older and you realize it's actually not and it doesn't need to be that way. But the funny Thing about the crime in Chicago and the gang violence and all that stuff is that they also have police corruption. One of my favorite stories out of Chicago was a meter maid gave a parking ticket to a cop because he parked illegally, because he thought he could. And the cop came out of the bar where he was drinking, grabbed her by the throat and slammed her against the wall. There's also another story where a bunch of cops beat the crap out of a bartender. So you have a state where a bunch of the governors went to prison where the police have been accused of operating what are called black sites, where they arrest people and detain them for days on end and torture them. You've, you've got the famous stories out of Chicago where what was that guy's name? He would, he would cattle prod people. You know I'm talking about.

[E]

No, I have no idea who that guy was, man.

[A]

What's that guy? I always forget that guy's name.

[C]

Cop.

[E]

Chicago police.

[A]

Yeah. Electrocuted people. Everybody knows that story. That was Chicago, right? What is this? You know, you know what I got to do? I got to ask the robot, who was the cop?

[E]

John Berg 80s.

[A]

Is it Burge Burg.

[E]

B U R G E yeah.

[A]

That was Chicago, right?

[E]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we know all about it. Man. Talk about corrupt city. And so when Donald Trump is like, man, this is not how things should be, I'm like, that's great, fantastic. I, I got to tell you, where I grew up, if we had National Guard, it'd been fantastic. What did we do? My friends and I rode around on our skateboards to the park and that's about it. That's all we did. And the gangbangers shot at each other and we'd get robbed and things like that and the police would never do anything about it. So personally, I think it's fantastic. However, you take a look at the leadership and there is something to be said for I left. A lot of people would say, Tim, you should have stayed to fight to make your city better. But you know, my attitude was kind of like, that's like asking someone to knock down a skyscraper with a ball peen hammer. Just not much I can do about it. Now, Donald Trump, the president, sending in the troops I think would be great. And I think crime will get cut in half or better. But for political reasons, anything Trump does ever is wrong. And to give you an example, for some reason the left defended Cracker Barrel. I don't know why, it's just a miserable decision. But outside of that what do you guys think? Should we send in the troops? 19. What about 17 other cities?

[E]

Look, the policing works, right? If you have police on the street, it disincentivize, disincentivizes people to commit crimes and then you have less crime in your city. It's working in D.C. it will likely work in other cities whether or not there will be constitutional, you know, fights on the grounds of constitutionality. Probably. But I mean, if the people want it, then I think that Trump will actually be able to do it. I talked about this a little bit before. I'm no tech genius, but I knew if I wanted my business to crush it, I needed a website. Now, thankfully, bluehost made it easy. I customized, optimized and monetized everything exactly how I wanted with AI. In minutes, my site was up.

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[E]

For if you've got popular support, the President has great leeway. If you don't have popular support, then the President, it doesn't matter if the President's doing something legal or not, he'll get so much pushback, he'll be almost, he'll almost have to stop doing things.

[A]

This is like, have you guys seen Landman?

[E]

I know what it is.

[C]

I have to.

[A]

That show's great.

[C]

I've heard the so awesome.

[A]

Billy Bob's fantastic. Maybe not in the real. I don't, I don't know his political politics, but in the show, he's good. And they, they have these oil fields where cartels are basically, you know, running through this land. And so they, they, they go to the government, they say, hey, look, do some training drills here. We don't actually want the military to enforce law or go after the cartels, but just by being there, you deter them. This is what Trump is talking about. The National Guard. These guys, National Guard, they're not going to arrest people, they're not going to issue tickets. They're literally going to stand there probably staring at the wall. But gang bangers are going to have a real hard time committing crimes in the presence of armed national guard.

[C]

Yeah, so two things. So you know, one is your point is actually really well taken, which is it was actually a native son of Illinois. I mean it was, it was Lincoln himself who famously said, I'm paraphrasing here, I'm probably gonna butcher it. But with public opinion, anything is possible. Without public opinion, nothing will work. So I mean, this is it. I mean this is what I call the art of the 8020 issue for Donald Trump. I mean, Donald Trump is a genius. He is a master at putting Democrats the left. In this case Mayor Johnson, who's such a far left loom bag that he makes Lori Lightfoot look like a fricking moderate. I mean, I didn't think that was even possible. But this guy Brendan Johnson somehow finds a way to do it. You know, whether I mean forcing him and JB Pritzker to oppose sending in some sort of federal help. I mean, just for context, Chicago's murder rate is 22 murders per 100,000 people. So New York City right now is about five. So literally less than 25% of that. Washington D.C. is actually not a whole lot higher than New York City, believe it or not. So Chicago is the bloodiest American city, bar none. I lived there for a few years, Tim. I went to law school there. I know you're a native son of Chicago. It's gotten a hell of a lot worse actually, just since I graduated. I graduated law school there in 2016. So that's nine years ago now. Been back a handful of times since then. My now wife, when we were dating, she was then my girlfriend. I took her to Chicago for the very first time. She had her purse stolen in broad daylight in Streeterville. Streeterville. This is like a nice neighborhood downtown.

[A]

Oh, but just so you understand, that's where the crime happens. Yes, always. Yes. Look, to be honest, guy from my neighborhood on south side ain't gonna be robbing me. We're both poor now. We're gonna go to Streetville, dude. Yeah, fair enough. So you know, it's the, it's the, it's the wealthier areas where people show up and do the muggings and because in these like uppity neighborhoods, these well to do liberals either are going to pull the. Oh, you poor person. You just don't know better or they're gonna be like, oh, I'm so scared. You don't wanna go to a white working class area in Chicago, like, you know, on the south side near like Sox park or whatever, and mess around with those Irish dudes. Let me tell you, man, during the no NATO protests in 2012, all these leftists were marching through Chicago and Southside Irish. When they started marching through the neighborhood of these white working class people, they beat the crap out of the antifa guys. And the leftists were like, they were really confused as to why white working class Chicagoans on the south side were beating the crap out of them, but they were. So that's why they typically stay out of these neighborhoods. But look, gang bangers don't rob other gangbangers in their own neighborhoods. They go to wealthier areas.

[D]

Well, I think Trump's tapping into something that a lot of Americans feel, which is they're really frustrated being pushed out to the suburbs and not having access to like 80% of their city. Like, I grew up in Memphis, I grew up in like a leafy suburb, so it's fine. But like 80% of the city was completely off limits. And it's super depressing because you look around the rest of the developed world or you look at places like Tokyo and you can live anywhere you want. If you're a young person, you have access to cheap housing where, like I said, in the United States. Yeah, more than, more than, at least more than half of your city is going to be completely unlivable. I'm at Trump's tapping into that.

[A]

Well, you know, it's going to be interesting. I'm curious how much of what Trump is doing actually has to do with population decline. So if you think about what happened to Detroit when this is, this is not necessarily population decline. Detroit lost residents because industry had left. But then you see poverty, crime and other problems start to emerge. I'm wondering how much of what Trump is doing with sending the National Guard is to try and create a state like, like a foundation of stability. Because in the next 10 years it is going to get increasingly worse with population decline and infrastructure collapse due to a lack of a labor market, human capital. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So the large, one of the largest consumer bases, the boomers, are dying. They're now at the mortality cliff. Gen Alpha's tiny and Gen Z can't work. You saw that. You saw that report that said Gen Z brings their parents with them to job interviews.

[E]

Unreal.

[C]

Yeah, right, I did see that.

[A]

Yeah. Tate brought, Tate brought both his moms that's true.

[D]

You're very, you're very hospitable, which I respect.

[A]

So.

[E]

That'S really good. Both of you.

[A]

Yeah. So if the expectation is that cities are going to get worse than they are now, I'm wondering if Trump and his admin are looking at this. I mean, I'd have to say that with someone like Stephen Miller. That guy's smart and he knows with the immigration stuff we're doing, he's looking at demographic numbers. I guarantee you the Trump admin knows full well you cannot simultaneously have low fertility. And no immigration. Immigration isn't a solution, by the way. It's a, it's abandoned on a bullet wound. And so they're saying we can't keep doing that. They also realize we have a fertility crisis 20 years ago. So I think they're, they're looking at this and there's something they're preparing for. If they're not, we're cooked.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, the, the fact that, that there is going to be such a problem with, like we said, human capital, like, that's a really big issue. And, and if people don't have a positive outlook on not only their communities, but also law enforcement in general, you're going to have significantly fewer police officers. I mean, I, it's likely not. I don't know if it's likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if big cities in the future kind of become those dystopias from sci fi movies from the 80s where you need to have a really militarized police force actually patrolling the streets. And, and just to keep, you know, the, the population safe or in, keep them kind of subdued.

[A]

You know, I think 2030 is going to be wild and for about five years it's going to be nuts in this country.

[C]

How so?

[A]

So we've got the fourth turning, you know, straw out generational theory. I'm going to throw. This is bothering me. You want to rotate that that way.

[E]

Other.

[A]

No, other way. Other way.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I'm just getting my OCD on. Straw. Straw. Generational theory predicts that 2028 is supposed to be the, the year of the great crisis. So as the story goes, every 80 years there is a turning, a fourth turning. So 80 years ago, of course, you know, what did we have? World War II, the world wars. I mean, some people make the argument that they were functionally the same wars because they, like World War II was the result of World War I. 80 years before that.

[C]

Civil War. No.

[A]

Yes, 80 years before that.

[C]

Revolutionary War.

[A]

Indeed. And actually you can keep going. Most of us don't track what happened 80 years before the American Revolution because it's pre American history. It's not sort of, it's like colonial history, but there actually was a great crisis and it actually bifurcates into the UK as well because we had a shared culture in society. So the prediction is something is going to happen here. I'm looking at everything that's going on right now. We've got actual fertility right now. Some have estimated, and maybe this is conspiratorial lunacy. 0.3. When you hear that fertility is at 1.6 or whatever. They're including older people who stopped having kids but had kids. So they're asking people, how many kids have you had? How many? You know. And for the fertility rate includes people who are now exiting childbearing years.

[C]

So what does so, so what does the point three include then?

[A]

Young people. So you're supposed to, it's supposed to be 20 year olds, people in their 20s having kids. And the. There's some estimates that say Gen Z fertility is at like 0.3 and some estimate it may be 0.8. And that makes complete sense if you ask me. But I'll tell you this, there was a really funny meme I saw, and it was a 4chan meme where someone said, hey, my grandpa gave me his PS1. Does anybody have any record saw that? Anybody have any recommendations for games? The first response is this has to be rage bait. And they said, My grandfather is 58 years old. He got the PlayStation 1 when he was 28. My dad was 8 years old, my dad had me at 20. I'm 18. But see, the millennials and Gen Z don't have kids. So they're like, no way your Grandpa had a PS1. It's like, dude, he's 60. Right?

[D]

Well, the interesting thing with the Gen Z millennials not having kids is there's, it's actually really important when you're looking at tfr. There was a Stephen Shaw, he's like a demographic expert and he broke down, there's actually a difference between total maternity rate and children per mother. So children per mother tracks obviously the average amount of children that a mother has a mother, meaning someone's had a kid before. And then the total, total maternal rate and the TMR has dropped. So like the amount of women that are having children is completely dropped, but the amount of mothers that have had children is consistent. So women are still having three, two to three children, but there's not as Many mothers, there's fewer mothers when you.

[E]

Take into account the fact that there's fewer women overall.

[D]

But when they decide to have a kid, they still have two to three. So it's not that like they're having less kids overall, if that makes sense. It's that there's just less people deciding.

[C]

The crisis is, is marriage essentially.

[D]

The crisis actually starts earlier. It starts before. It's like, yeah, once they decide to have a child, they're going to have two to three still. That's perfectly fine. That mechanism is still working. And I think this is why stuff like cleaning up cities because like nihilism is just so pervasive that people just don't want to have.

[A]

Because there's no way to reverse the trend. It's not possible. It's a math problem. If you need. There's various estimates of what the fertility rate needs to be to sustain a civilization and it's at least replacement, but it's actually a little bit higher than 2.

[C]

So 2.1 is what I hear usually.

[A]

And the reason is because sometimes babies die and people don't make it to adulthood. So you need a little bit higher than normal when you are below that. And I believe we're currently at 1.6.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If you're tracking young people who are supposed to be having kids, I've heard estimates from 0.8 to 0.3 and, you know, don't really know for sure because Gen Z includes people who should not be having kids. Gen Z includes, you know, teenagers who we don't expect to have children. You need, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's exponential. If you have less than 2 kids, your population shrinks. Then to get back to your functioning human capital size required to maintain the infrastructure of the civilization, you need twice as much. This means that Gen Z needs to have four kids to fix the damage of millennials and Gen Xers, which they're not going to do and they're not doing. Which means the prediction is the boomers are at the mortality cliff. They're going to start dying and faster and faster. The oldest boomers are 79. That is mortality. Within the next five years, we expect there to be a massive, we call it the mortality cliff. It's when boomers are going to die in large numbers and within five to 10 years there should be about 20 million boomers left from, from 65 million. So it's a massive drop off in the consumer market. Though these individuals normally would be replaced by the next generation. At bare minimum, they're not. This means you're not going to be able to buy strawberries at your grocery store. Your grocery stores are probably going to go out of business. You will have to drive 50 miles to find standard goods and there's going to be huge lines for it. This is going to create a snowball effect which creates a massive depression and it's gonna take several years to climb out of that depression once people start rebuilding the infrastructure. But that's why I think to go back to the main point, when we're looking at what Trump is doing, I have to assume that his administration is taking into consideration the known fertility crisis alongside the mass deportations.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, they certainly have to account for it. And like immigration, it won't even be there forever as a band aid, because even across the third world now, their fertility is crashing. Like, India is now below replacement. Within the last three years, they've dropped below replacement. So all these, like, complex demographic theories on birth rates has, like, all gone out the window. When India went below replacement, it's like, oh, it's not. Oh, it's something completely different now.

[C]

Even these sub Saharan African countries that were literally averaging four, five, six children, they're now, I mean, you know, I'm speaking very broad terms here, but they're down to like three, four, sometimes even two point something now.

[D]

Ali went from 14 to seven in like eight years.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. So this, it's a global trend. I mean, it's no longer just a first world, highly developed society trend.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. And to that point, like, even if you just import people, like, people aren't cogs. Right. People can't just be like, oh, well, we'll just get more people in here and the people that will come will be able to do the jobs that we need them to do. Even the Democrats know this. They continuously say, oh, well, who's going to pick the fruit? Who's going to do the menial labor? That's not really what you want immigration for, if you want immigration at all.

[A]

Right.

[E]

Like the point, like when people talk about the United States being pro.

[B]

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[E]

Immigration the idea that they're generally trying to convey, or at least the argument they're trying to make to people is we want to get the best and brightest. We want to get the people that really excel. We want the smartest people in the world to come to the U.S. but that's not what's happening and it hasn't been happening for a long time like this. There are people that come that are smart, sure, but the vast majority of the people that are coming to the United States, the immigrants, whether they be illegal or H1B visas, they're not specialized. They're not some kind of super smart group of people. They're just average people from a different country. And if, if, if average, some, a lot of times they're below average, you know, so that's not something that we want to encourage in the United States.

[A]

So the estimate is 0.6.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

So I just, I just, I asked ChatGPT take it for what it's worth. It's a, this thing's lying all the time. But I asked it to calculate for, for Gen Z women who, so it estimates when they do the tfr, the, the total fertility rate. They do it in age brackets. They do include teen pregnancy, but I'm not going to include that personally because it's not something we're actually actively trying to encourage. Except for later teens maybe because that was normal for a while, but going by the ages of 19 to 27, it's 0.6.

[C]

Wow. Yeah, troubling stuff. Look, I mean the other thing about, you know, immigration, I mean, let's kind of not miss the forest for the trees here. I mean, it's a very simple point, but I think it's a pretty important point which is, I mean, you can immigrate yourself out of a fertility crisis for the very simple reason that at some point you cease to be a nation.

[A]

Right?

[C]

I mean, this is kind of just kind of politics one on one. I mean, I'm in town to speak at the National Conservative Conference. You know, our whole movement is about what is the nation. I mean, how does the nation preserve itself there? I mean, at some point, if you're literally just actually replacing or attempting to replace an entire generation with people who are not Neither of your culture nor have a discernible identifiable culture to actually assimilate into. I mean, I just, just, I'm, I.

[A]

Got to let you know, you're not going to replace your petroleum engineers with Honduran farmers.

[C]

Yeah, no, of course not. Of course not.

[A]

Yeah. And that's what they've been trying to do and that's why it doesn't work.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So what you end up with is an economy has varying degrees of skill requirements. You need, you need low skill labor, but too much and everybody suffers. Animal populations, when they reach their, their, you know, total, greatest total, you know, amount per region, they all starve, they all suffer because they're all getting just enough food to survive to keep the population where it is. So if you flood the country with low skill labor, everybody's underemployed and struggling to get by, and then you create a buckling welfare system. You actually need a band of, you know, small amounts of high skilled labor, a lot of mid medium labor. It's a bell curve basically. And what the Democrats have been trying to do for the past several past two decades since the financial collapses, just bring in Haitians and Honduran farmers. Yeah, well that'll accelerate your collapse.

[D]

Yeah, right. Well it's even, even in the Republican Party like, I mean Bernie famously said like open borders is a Koch brothers proposal. Because it's like it's the GDP brain that seems to be pernicious on the, not the right, but Republican Party historically. Because it's like, yeah, of course, because GDP is just a calculation of the amount of economic activity in your country. So when you flood the country with like, yeah, Hondurans, they're going to be spending money and if you just keep like, keep pouring them in. Yeah, people are going to spend more money. The GDP will go up. But GDP is not a way to calculate prosperity and calculate my children's well being.

[A]

Combine the immigration crisis and now the mass deportations with Gen Z bringing their parents to job interviews. I'm sorry, you're the luxuries, you know, today will be gone. And that's. None of this political stuff scares me. Donald Trump saying, sending the trips. I'm like, whatever. Donald Trump saying, we're gonna DOJ investigate this person. The Democrats are screaming fascism. Shut up. None of that worries me. The crazy person who believes that I stole his spoons and he's hunting me down. That doesn't scare me. Looks like high security guards. The tsunami that is approaching us in the next several years is, it's not just about population. It is about skill and culture. Our culture is fragmented, it's fracturing, it's falling apart. Fertility is on the decline, that we're not gonna have the labor we need, we're not going to have the skills we need to bring it all back. I wonder if the idea of deploying the National Guard is happening now not because crime is a problem, but because Trump knows you're going to need what we. What we would call continuity coordination. So this is Presidential Directive 51. Are you guys familiar with this?

[E]

No.

[A]

They made a video game about. It's called the Division. George W. Bush signed an executive order called national security directive 51. National security. Presidential directive 51 is what it's called. It gives the President the authority to erase the US Government and create a new enduring constitutional government, they call it, and appoint a National Continuity Coordinator. The idea is, in the event of catastrophic death, economic collapse or otherwise, the US Government must persist. And so, no, this directive has never been tested in the courts, it's never been done. But hypothetically, any president has the authority to say, based on a substantial loss of life anywhere in the world, we are effectively erasing the three branch government, creating a one branch government and assigning a court, a continuity coordinator, to control all United States jurisdiction. The idea behind it, whether you support it or not, I don't care. By all means, say it's bad. Sure. My point is the federal government has long known, in the event of political, governmental, or economic crises and collapse, you need continuity throughout the entire contiguous United States. So when I see a story, granted, I'm sick over the past three weeks, I could talk about it now, saying they want to deploy to 19 cities. National Guard. That sounds more to me like governmental contingencies than any kind of crime stopping. Maybe I'm just crazy, but when I look at what's been going on, I have to imagine the US Government, the Trump administration, knows what's going to happen in the next several years. When you combine fertility crisis along with the immigration crisis, well, I think it could, I mean. Or civil war.

[D]

Yeah, well, I think. Well, I think a lot of it is just the government seeing how El Salvador's handled their problems. And they're like, oh, we can just reciprocate that, Replicate, replicate that United States and get a similar result.

[C]

Yeah, that's more or less where I am. I mean, I think a lot of you're saying, Tim makes sense, but I mean, law and order, crime, this is just a politically winning issue for Donald Trump. I mean, what, what Democrats have to say on these issues. I mean, look at Mamdani in New York City. I mean this nut job running for mayor of Minneapolis, I mean all of them down to a T. I mean, is there a single major city in America that has been run by Democratic mayors for the past 40, 50 years that is not exponentially worse off today than it was 50 years ago? I can't think of a single one. I mean Baltimore, Detroit, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Memphis, I mean literally down to a T. Every single one is crime riddled, violent crime, property crime, drug addled, illegal alien overrun, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So I mean, he sees a slam dunk of a winning issue. I mean, look, the other thing is, I mean looking at it from like a historical American perspective, there, you know, these battles between the federal government and the states, you know, federalism battles there, local control versus federal government control. I mean these go back, you know, all the way to the beginning of the republic, obviously. And you know, Donald Trump is kind of like a strong government guy. So I mean, I'm not surprised at all that he's doing this. I mean it's gonna get legally tested. You know, the authority is gonna be a little, a little dicier than for Washington D.C. where he has a unique ability to do so. It's literally the federal district after all. But the politics here are just a total, total no brainer. And I think most of the non nut job Chicagoans, to the extent that there are that many remaining, are gonna support this move for sure.

[E]

And take look, take polls for what you want. Some people really think that they're worthless and that's fine. But poll after poll, these kind of measures are popular because the people that are living with this crime from day to day don't, don't want to live with this crime. They don't want to feel like they're gonna have to jump in the bathtub because there's a shootout outside of their house. They don't want their kids to get shot in, in, you know, playing at the park. That, and that kind of stuff does happen all the time in these big cities with a lot of crime.

[A]

Let's jump to this story from the post Millennial Tim Waltz plays into Dead Trump hoax. There will be news sometime.

[E]

Oh boy.

[A]

There's a couple stories related to this. My favorite was this one actually. The mystery garbage bag Trump is saying. Apparently it's AI. That's. Let me just play the video. We don't need the audio on this. For those that are not watching, just listening the video appears to show the White House. A window is open, and it looks like someone hucks a garbage bag out the window. Apparently Trump was like, those. Those windows are sealed. You can't open them. So it may be an AI video that was a hoax. But what I love about it is this video went viral on these anti Trump forums because they were saying, holy crap, Trump's dead. They're, they're just, they're disposing of the evidence. Something's wrong. They're not telling us the truth. And I'm like, wow. Then Tim Waltz does this thing. Let me play the video here. You get up in the morning and you doom. Scroll through things.

[D]

And although I will say this, the.

[A]

Last few days, you woke up thinking there might be news.

[D]

Just saying, just saying there will be news sometime, just so you know there will be news.

[A]

He's saying Trump will be dead. Now, the crazy thing is, guys, it was Labor Day weekend. We made a bunch of pizzas. We got. We got one of those brick ovens. It's amazing. And we were hanging out. I did a little bit of work in the morning, but there was no live show and there was no IRL because it's Labor Day. And so Trump is gone for a few days and the left starts saying, he's dead. The fact that Tim Waltz can go on stage and say, you all saw that? And they know what he's talking about. This is a cult. They are deranged and insane people. A holiday weekend happened where the President was not heard from. And my first response was, what was Labor Day? Well, yeah, but he was missing before. Yeah, I know, it's a long weekend, so it's like Friday's around the corner. And he's like, look, I just gonna hang out the family. It's Labor Day. Give me a break. And I was like, okay, we all, we all feel that way. Trump's not special in that regard. But they all genuinely believed this psychotic conspiracy theory. And then when they announced that Trump was gonna do a press conference, they started spreading rumors that Trump was announcing his resignation. And then what happens? Trump shows up, sharp as attack, talking about all sorts of stuff. That's like a three hour press conference. Okay? It was actually like, what, like an hour, totally healthy and normal. How do we function as a country when half the population is deranged?

[D]

Yeah, he votes. Yeah. Well, it's like Gavin Newsom, like, trying to do, like, a crappy imitation of Trump. This is the left doing a crappy imitation of the right. Leave the conspiracy theories to us, you guys just aren't good at it.

[A]

End universe suffrage.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, the blue and on stuff. Sorry guys, it just feels bootleg. Cut rate.

[A]

Give it to us. This has always been the lie. The right's not been conspiratorial. They've been analytical.

[D]

Well, we're right usually.

[A]

Indeed.

[D]

That's the difference.

[A]

Did you see them all lying and claiming Walter Reed's roads were blocked off? Yeah. These people are crackpots.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Jess Margera, I'm talking to you, buddy. I hope you hear this. This is nuts. Dude, you're, you're blue and on lunatics.

[E]

One of the grass.

[A]

Go out and touch grass.

[E]

One of the other things that you're starting to see a lot of is people saying, Look, J.D. vance, when he gets into office, he's going to consolidate power and blah, blah, blah. And, and it blows my mind that people are saying this because it's like, look, if something happens to Donald Trump, right, Like I'm not hoping for it, but if something does happen, he gets sick or whatever. We have a constitutional process that means that J.D. vance will take office because he is the Vice President. The idea that that's some kind of, some kind of attempt to seize power, well, it's just totally ridiculous. And I feel like it goes beyond conspiratorial to be like entirely detached from reality. Just totally don't want to acknowledge that there is a normal process and JD Vance would take office as the president and that would be perfectly normal. It's happened multiple times in our, in our history. There's nothing unique about it. And still they continue to act as if, oh, J.D. vance would be, would take power. And they're trying to set up the idea that J.D. vance would be worse than Donald Trump because Donald Trump is Hitler and so J.D. vance would be super mega Hitler or whatever.

[C]

Yeah, they have these like buzzwords, right? I mean, consolidate power. That's one of their favorite ones. I mean, I've spoken at conferences in Budapest, Hungary multiple times in the past few years and they love bashing the prime minister there, Viktor Orban, for what they call Democratic backsliding. That's their favorite term of choice over in Hungary and I guess Europe more broadly, they're sending democracy backwards. Emergency. I mean, you know, they say, they say the same crap here about President Trump on a day in day basis as well, that.

[A]

Don't you guys remember when Ron Desantis was briefly in the lead, what the reaction from the left was? The liberals, it was Ron DeSantis is worse than Trump. Right. You don't understand. He's. Imagine. Imagine if Trump was competent. He's going to be so much worse. And then when Desantis, of course, lost, it was, no, no, Trump. Trump's. Trump's been bad the whole time. Who's Ron? And now JD Vance? They're gearing up for the same regurgitated.

[E]

Psycho cult garbage because they have no substance anymore. The Democrat Party is so torn between the progressives and the what you would consider normal Democrats, and they don't know who they are as a party. There was someone that was talking. I forgot who it was, but it was a tweet that I saw said that aoc, Zohran Mamdani and the rest of the DSA need to leave the Democrat Party because they are dragging them down. The progressives are really harming normal Democrats. And as long as the progressives are the ones that are setting the policy choices and making the arguments most vocally, they're going to have a problem because the American people have clearly said, we do not want that.

[A]

It's just not true, though. Who is it? Who's the Virginia guy? Is it Mark? What's his face?

[C]

Warner?

[A]

Is it. Was he the guy who was like, I'm going to go save Kilmar Brego Garcia or whatever?

[C]

That was the Maryland guy. Von Holland. Yeah.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. Recently. Let me, Let me pull the tweet up.

[C]

I mean, it was more.

[A]

Yeah, it was a guy in Virginia, and I tweeted at him like, glad I live in West Virginia, not regular Virginia, because regular Virginia is nuts. There's no regular Democrats. You know, the middle of the road, Democrats are being like, hey, you know that wife beating, Ms. 13, human smuggler. Yeah, that's right.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, nah, he not. I get him out of here. And they're like, nah. I'm like, okay, well, I'm not voting for Tim Waltz. He's supposed to represent the regular Democrat. You get rid of aoc, you're worse off. Like, at least AOC will say something like moderately anti war. Do I want woke light with. With neoliberal warmongering? No. At least I know what the progressives are trying to do.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't want either of them to be honest, but this.

[C]

This stuff makes me happy. I mean, I mean, when Tim Walls. I mean, he. He was their vice presidential candidate when he plays into this Dead Trump porn. And that's what it is. This is just their version of porn, right? I mean, when he's playing the Dead Trump Porn. When the mayor of Minneapolis is bashing thoughts and prayers within minutes of a horrific shooting there? I mean, who benefits from this insanity? I mean, not them. I mean, the only opposition. I mean, that is to say what I call civilizational sanity. I mean, you want to call it the right, that's fine. I kind of think the whole left right dichotomy is a little kind of ahistorical at this point there. I think of it more as just civilizational sanity versus civilizational arson. But when the arsonists are saying this stuff there we on Team Sanity. I mean, we're picking up a truck, we're getting new followers, new voters there, and we're looking good. So I'm not saying it's necessarily a good thing for the country in theory. You don't want half the country to be totally deranged there. I'm just saying that I think the solace that I take in the silver lining is that they're not winning anyone over this. They're winning over no one whatsoever there. And they're not in good shape as it is. I mean, even the New York Times had this long form piece talking about how the 2030 Electoral College, the census, it's going to be a bloodbath for them. Everyone's fleeing the blue states. They're fleeing the Illinois, the Connecticuts, the New Yorks there. Where are they going? They're going to the red states. Florida, Texas, Carolinas, Georgia, Arizona, you name it there. So the. The trend is very much already on its way.

[A]

Yeah, it was Mark Warner. He said this afternoon. Afternoon I visited Kilmar Burger, Garcarci and other detainees, the Farmville Detention center, to deliver letters from his family. He wants to keep fighting for justice. Imagine how emotional he was. He wants to keep fighting for justice. And why me too? And that would be? Send them back. Anyway, some of the allegations, I wouldn't call that justice, but I know this. They wrongfully moved him to El Salvador. Oh, my God. There's no. There's no. There's no sane Democrats.

[C]

Like, he was a moderate. You're totally right. To your point, he's not.

[A]

I got.

[C]

You're saying he was, though. Like, at some point he was.

[D]

He's running in a effectively a swing state.

[E]

Part of the reason why there's no saying Democrats is because they don't actually have a leader. If they had a leader, if there were someone that were a quote unquote sane Democrat that stepped up, that actually could lead the party and had the charisma and the political you know, the political chops to do that. They would fall in line. But this is because he's floundering, because the whole party's floundering. He's not sure where to go. He doesn't know if this is the right thing to do or not. So he's doing what he thinks is the best thing for his future electoral, you know, possibilities. But if there was someone that were to speak well and came up and said, okay, this is what the party should be doing that was an actual good leader, they could lead the party in a direction that would get them, you know, that would get them the votes that they need. But there's no one that can do that right now.

[A]

They tried. So the Cracker Barrel thing happens, right? And I'm lying on my couch watching Fox News just, you know, listen to that sweet, sweet Jesse Watters tell me stories all night. And the Democrats put out this tweet where they were like, it's the meme of the guy standing up, you know, making his pronunciation, his annunciation. And it said, we, too, think the Cracker Barrel rebrand is bad. And I was like, look, the Democratic Party is healing. They're realizing that the strategy of anything you think is anything you do is bad. That strategy doesn't work. And so when people were like, the Cracker Barrel rebrand is a bad thing, the Democrat Twitter said, we agree. But within only a few hours, all the. The. The. The known faces and actors, liberals came out and said, you're just bigots and, you know, you think Cracker Barrel, blah, blah, blah. And they made memes of, like, Confederate flags and swastikas. And it's like, guys, Cracker Barrel, I'm watching on a secret. I know. I've been on this, Ben, over the past month about population. The reason why Cracker Barrel rebranded is because of population collapse 100. They rebranded. And the liberals defend the rebrand even though it was a clear and obvious mistake. Because anything the right likes, they must oppose. But for the brief moment, I'll find the tweet, they actually were in agreement.

[C]

Wait, sorry, how does it have to do with population?

[A]

The Cracker Bar, Cracker Barrels was struggling. Their numbers were bad, their sales were down. And I've heard a couple different stories. I could be wrong about this, but this is. This is somewhat ancillary, but I heard that the original CEO got fired because of a lack of sales. I don't know if that's true. One thing is true, is that the revenue was decreasing. And this wasn't just Growth, where they're trying to establish new locations. This was existing locations. We're seeing revenue decline. At least this is, this is my understanding of the story. So they bring in the CEO and they ask the question, like, why are we losing money? And they try to figure it out. And so the assessment is, look, people just want a booth and they want sugar covered cinnamon swirl dessert pancakes, okay? They don't care for hokey, you know, knickknacks on the wall. And then in the little store with all the knickknacks to buy, they just want sugar donut swirl double glazed pancakes. So they said, okay, simplify, get rid of the theme stuff, cut the cost down, reduce our footprint and, and give the people what they want. And it got worse. The reason why sales are going down is because people don't bring their families out to dinner anymore. Ten years ago you had more families. You have substantially less families now. So when a couple goes to get breakfast, it is a man and a woman sitting down at a table for four ordering two orders of sugar glazed garbage pancakes. Ten years ago it was four people, two kids, getting a short, getting a short stack of sugar glazed garbage pancakes with their parents. And their parents were spending a little bit more. Revenue is going down because people don't feed their kids anymore. People have talked about, why did Pizza Hut turn into a strip mall from the family location because people don't have kids anymore. Why did the McDonald's play place go away? And now McDonald's is a brutalist cube because people don't have kids anymore. So this population collapse results in Cracker Barrel losing money, forcing the rebrand. Everybody has says it's garbage. They try and backtrack, but their revenue will still go down. So anyway, long story short, the Democrats have no idea how to adapt to this. The only thing they have is if the right likes it, it's bad. And there's no, there's no recovery. Let me try and find that tweet from the Democrats because they were agreeing for a second and yep, that was easy. Took me two seconds. This is it right here at the Democrats tweeted we think the Cracker Barrel rebrand sucks too. And they got a ton of retweets for it. Bipartisanship, 2025, I quote, tweet it and said, at last unity. And then what happened the next day? All of your familiar faces, all of the prominent liberals were like, cracker Barrel should rebrand because they're racist. Yeah, Democrats tried. They tried. This is the way you win. This is how The Democrats win again. They start acting like Joe Rogan and stop acting like weird woke lefty activists.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, it's like part of the, part of the problem with the Democrats is that they do adopt the aesthetics of middle America sometimes without actually implementing the policies that would benefit middle America. Like a great example was during the Kamala Waltz campaign. They had these camo hats with the orange text on it, and they were like, see, look at us. It's like a Bass Pro Shops. We're one of you guys. And their policies would like, eviscerate, like, middle America.

[E]

Yeah, but I mean, that, that was always very fake and very clearly fake, like nobody was buying it. Nobody buys that Tim Waltz is an avid hunter or that he's a gun guy or that Kamala Harris has a Glock or that any of them are pro second amendment or any of the garbage. They try to, try to, you know.

[C]

Tim Walt's trying to hold that shotgun. Yeah, yeah.

[E]

I mean, it was, it was, it was, it was the whole like, you know, three from Inglorious Bastards. Right? Like, this is the German three is like, oh, you know, this is, this is the one.

[A]

Is.

[E]

It was this.

[A]

This is the German three.

[E]

Oh, okay, yeah.

[A]

This is the English.

[E]

Yeah, but, but that's the point. I'm not a German.

[A]

I love that meme. It's like how, you know, someone's not really part of your subculture. It shows them going like this.

[E]

It's the same thing. It's super, super transparently bs, you know, and, and when they do try to go and, and say, hey, we actually, you know, we actually want to try young men and attract middle America, they can't help but do things that automatically put them off. They've been telling young white guys that they're the devil for the better part of 20 years.

[A]

Before we go to the next story, I do want to read this one quick super chat. Louis Rodriguez says civil war is out. Population collapse. And no population collapse is a fact. What happens in that population collapse, we don't exactly know, but we know for a fact it's happening because we can actually track the fertility numbers. Civil war, on the other hand, is. There's some kind of political turmoil happening, but they're both going to happen. Hope you're preparing. I don't, I don't know what civil war would look like if it does happen. But when infrastructure and resources crumble and collapse, you will get fighting. Trump is deploying the National Guard to US Cities. This is another escalation. And, and I'M gonna say I predicted it. Let's jump to this story, though. Talking about cultural bifurcation woke NBC issues apology for misgendering Minneapolis child killer. Yeah, let me say that for you again from the Daily Mail. Woke NBC issues apology for misgendering Minneapolis child killer. Now, let's. Let's get to the brass tacks on this one and clarify. I had tweeted this morning that NBC News apologizes apologizes to the shooter for misgendering them. And the headline from media it says, issues correction. To which liberals went, this is why nobody likes maga. It was a correction, not an apology. My response, when you intentionally lie to a religious person who's threatening you, do we call that a correction? Sure. With air quotes, maybe. Yes, I'm correcting my behavior. I call it an act of contrition. So here's what happened. NBC News wrote about the child killer and said he. Him later issued a correction on the article saying the shooter used. Used her pronouns and changed the article to say she, her. The New York Times did the same. Now, this individual also wrote in Cyrillic, according to the New York Post, that they did not want to be trans, therefore they're a he, him. So what's happening is NBC News is apologizing to an ideology by. In an act of contrition, please forgive us, we use the wrong pronoun. If they were actually correcting the record, they'd say, this is a male. He did this thing. So my argument is intentionally injecting fake information into an article to appease an ideological faction is an act of contrition, otherwise colloquially known as an apology.

[E]

I mean, yes, what it was.

[A]

Oh, what does it mean for us as a society that we haven't. We have prominent. I mean, NBC is one of the classic prominent media enterprises in the United States, and they're doing this.

[D]

I mean, you still have the problem, like a lot of these news agencies, even. Even though the culture of the United States shifted. Right. In the last three years is the reality. And even across the political spectrum is all these new newsrooms, they're PAs. They're still activists, fundamentally, like a lot of these kids are still activists. And unfortunately, the way that media works, mass media, is it attracts a lot of former reformed theater kids who are still ultimately activists at the end of the day, and they're the ones that are in control of press releases like this.

[C]

I mean, I would. I obviously agree with that, but I would take it probably even further, maybe, which is, look, you know, if you're writing like A local article. If you're in, like, a very liberal jurisdiction, okay, you're in, like, San Francisco, whatever. And some local transgender person thinks it's a boy, who thinks it's a girl, vice versa there. And you're a lefty publication. You want to apologize, fine. But let's not. Let's not miss the force for the trees here. This is a murderer. This is like a rampage mass murderer. I mean, this is demonic, satanic evil in our midst. I mean, we should not be. Not only should we not be apologizing for this, we should be deliberately spitting in this person's memory and, like, trying to condemn anything that this individual, male, female, boy, girl, who gives.

[A]

Who the hell cares?

[C]

I mean, this is demonic, satanic evil that we should smite out. May the memory be erased forever and ever. The notion we're going to somehow apologize to. To what? To the parents? To the quote, unquote, transgender.

[A]

Who's offended by it?

[C]

Yeah, the gender dysphoria community is. Is offended that a mass murderer person with gender dysphoria. I mean, it doesn't make it make sense.

[A]

I don't think the person even actually was trans. The reporting was that they regretted it. Yeah, yeah, it was. And Right. So former trans, I guess. I don't know. Anti Trump. Like, didn't Rosie o' Donnell say that it was a MAGA person?

[E]

I don't pay any attention to Rosie o'. Donnell. I have no idea.

[A]

What do you mean? I follow her musings every day. Her gentle musings.

[E]

Maybe I should.

[A]

For a good laugh.

[E]

But to your point, Josh, like, the left can't help but do things that are essentially what normal people consider evil. Right. They can't help but take the bad guy's side. They were taking the bad guy's side during all the BLM riots. They were on the side of the people that were literally rioting. The vice president was sending out messages for a GoFundMe to get people that had been arrested. Get them bail money, bro. The. The what's.

[A]

They made the orcs good guys and Lord literally, Tolkien's like, orcs are just an embodiment of evil. And they're like, when we rewrite this, we're going to make the orcs relatable.

[E]

We're going to humanize them. When any time anyone talks about Helldivers or Starship Troopers, they take the bug side, you know? Take the bug side.

[A]

You know, it's really funny. Is that before they made, I think Rings of Power was the series on Amazon where they made the orcs into like regular people to sympathize with. There was a meme going around for a long time where it's Lord of the Rings and they're like, the orcs are about to storm the gates of Gondor and they're like, well, let them in. Don't be racist. Yeah. And. And then they literally made it. For those that don't know, in Rings of Power, it got roasted. Because Tolkien in Lord. I'm not a big Lord of the Rings person, but the general idea was that like, I think the story is that elves were kidnapped, tortured and like, and turned into orcs or something. Or is that or Kai? I don't know, but they were like, they were manifest evil by Mordor, made from dirt or something. And then they make the Rings of Power and they're like, nah, Orcs are people who are scared and fighting for their resources. And they show orcs with babies and like wives. And everyone was like, is this a joke? They were just supposed to be one dimensional bad guys, but the left got a hold of and said, nah, we're all about diversity. They're actually good guys.

[E]

It's ridiculous.

[A]

They actually like being the bad guys. Yeah. Well, take a look. My favorite example is Captain Marvel in Captain America. The story is, young man desperately wants to join the military and lies to try and join the military, and then during a training exercise throws himself on the grenade. You know, sacrifices himself to try and save his friends. Captain Marvel, she always had the power. It was suppressed by a man, and she robs a guy for telling her to smile. And that's what they think is good. Wow. They like being the villains.

[E]

They believe that they're, they believe that they're oppressed. So whenever they violently act out, they think that. And, and whoever they, they side with is the oppressed person.

[D]

Right.

[E]

They believe that. So if that person violently reacts or acts out, then it's justified because whoever they're acting out against was their oppressor or is in, in line with their oppressor.

[C]

I mean, that's, that's obviously their entire approach to the whole Middle east conflict as well. Right? Exact same thing. Yeah.

[E]

It's the whole approach to life.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, you saw like after the shooting, you saw on Reddit, people celebrating, they're saying, thank you for settling the score. Because in their head, especially in the transgender community and their head, the white middle class Christian family is opponent number one, enemy number one. Because those are the people that brought them into this world. And their life is Suffering. Who are you going to blame for your life? Suffering? You're going to blame the people that brought you into this world, which is, yeah, families and children like this. And so that's like the enemy, number one. Out of all the evil in the world, the number one group that they hate is just like normal because that's what types of families they come from.

[A]

Did you guys see that? Patrick bet David surrounded by 20 anti capitalists.

[E]

I didn't see that.

[C]

I saw a clip from this.

[A]

I, I think it was improperly titled. I think it's Patrick bet David surrounded by 20 retards. Because. And I will, I will say this. While PBD is largely correct, there were so many moments where I was like, he could have actually just hit a grand slam, like they set him up, but he didn't go for the, the debate talking point, death blow. But you have all these people that do not understand the function of economics, work, labor or otherwise. And so I was watching this and I was like, well, we're cooked. These young people who are anti capitalist, we're saying, my favorite question that was asked of PBD was how much money would you need to feed and house everybody, you know, in the country or whatever? And PB that, that, that was a layup, that was a freebie for PBD to destroy anti capitalist ideology. And instead he asked her about what it means to be communism or communist or something when someone, so this person, when they, when they ask the question, how much money do you need to feed everybody in the world? You know, my question is, how many calories are in a dollar bill? What do we know? Anybody? I'd imagine it's probably negative calories. Probably takes more money to digest the cloth paper than it does that. Oh, oh, oh, you didn't mean to literally eat the money. You meant how much food do you need and how much shelter do you need? But see, these leftist young people, not always young, don't understand. You can't eat money. They think money turns into bread. That if you put a dollar on the table, put a pillow over and go to bed, the, the bread fairy comes and takes the dollar and puts bread for you. Just magic. This is the mentality of the younger generations. The younger you get, the more likely they are to believe this, that money is like the food is just there. They literally were telling PBD that we're in a post scarcity reality and that people like you, this is a pbd, are intentionally hoarding wealth to keep other people from eating.

[E]

It's ridiculous.

[A]

We are not post scarcity at all. Someone had to make that bread, grow that wheat, harvest the wheat and deliver it to the bakery where they could make the flour. You know, convert the. Smash the wheat into flour. Or they probably just bought the flour from Cisco and then make the bread and sell to you. Leftists don't understand that money isn't food and that if they had all the money in the world, they would not be able to buy a loaf of bread with it. This is the next generation that's coming up. So I'm kind of like, you know, I look at that well, I think.

[D]

Like, you see people on a. Like, you see people divorced from the mechanisms that create prosperity, like, throughout generations. Like, baby boomers were the generation that effectively threw away the classical civilization of the Western hemisphere. Like, a large part was they were the first generation that permitted mass immigration. Offshoring, like economic offshoring, introduced inflation, these sort of mass, Mass inflation through, like, the credit system and that sort of thing. So it's like a lot of times like, okay, yes, Gen Z, it's a very practical thing. Like, they just don't understand how food gets on the table. But you see this across generations, that people in America are just completely divorced from mechanisms that create civilization.

[A]

Every generation, you get larger and larger cohorts of people who are developmentally disabled. We'll say that would be nice. What I mean by that is what you described. They're divorced from the reality of what makes society function.

[D]

Yeah. And it's like, it's pertinent across all, all generations, at least since, like, after the World Wars. And also the composition of each generation has changed. Like, like boomers, they're much more cohesive, they're much more homogenous. And zoomers are like, very diverse in a, like, you know, whole array of ways. So it's like, yeah, you're going to get a lot of. You're going to get a lot of different answers from a lot of different zoomers on things than you would get from. From baby boomers, just by nature of, like, how.

[B]

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[D]

Diverse or lack of homogeneity you have among zoomers.

[A]

You know what, and you know what no one wants to tell you on the right or the left?

[C]

What?

[A]

Poverty is a requirement of a functioning society.

[D]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

There has to be a low class of people who are struggling and work as hard as they can and do jobs that people don't, the average person doesn't like to do. And nobody wants to tell you that because everybody wants to fight to break out of that, that, that bottom tier, that lower class of society. But you know, I'll explain it quite simply. If every single person had all of their needs met, what job would ever get done? Right?

[E]

I mean there's the argument that some people will be like, oh well, I do this because I love it. But there, that would be an exceedingly small portion of the population would actually do things.

[A]

And that was easily disproven by the neat generation, largely millennial and into Gen Z. People who live in the basements or spare bedrooms of their parents and don't get jobs because their needs are met and they don't have to. And this is also the welfare argument. People who, there are so many stories of people who are on welfare who say, well you know, the problem is if I do get a job, I'll actually make less money, so I'm better off staying on welfare. This is the issue. They're, they're, they're for society to function, you need people who are going to wake up every day and say, I have to work and I have to work hard. And some people aren't going to have the skills or the intelligence to make lots of money, so they're going to work really, really hard for a long time. And that's just reality. When two things are happening back to population. People who don't have kids don't have to work. People who have kids have to work. So two things are happening. People are living with their parents and their parents, their snowplow parents are taking care of them, so they don't need jobs, so they don't work. Then you have other young people who are working the bare minimum to cover their basic needs and without children don't need to fight twice as hard. So what's now happening is this is The. This. You know, I was talking about this a month ago. I went to a club where I was, you know, having a business meeting, and they have a. They have, like. It's like. It was like a light club. And so we're talking about why we can't find contractors and why no matter how many times we reach out to people, they're like, we're overbooked, and we're booked out for three months. And I'm like, that's crazy. Is there nobody who can do a basic rudimentary contracting job? And I look out the window, and it's a Wednesday, and I see a gaggle of young men swimming and drinking beers and laughing. And I said, why aren't those young men saying, right now, I got you. Let's go to work. They don't have kids, so they're like, screw it. I'm gonna go party.

[E]

Well, I mean, you see the meme of, like, you know, there's a tv, a bed, a chair, there's an Xbox, and people are like, oh, this is all a young guy needs. Like, there's a lot of dudes that are completely satisfied with Internet access. Some kind of distraction like Xbox and a roof over that. Not everybody, but there's a lot of people that are like, well, you know, I've got all the stuff I need, so why do I have to go out and do more? The people that are actually motivated to go out and do stuff, that's a probably a significantly small portion of the society.

[D]

Because I don't know if it's, like, children, because it's like. I think fertility directly correlates with lack of productivity. Like, if you look like Africa, I mean, it's like exhibit A for low productivity with high fertility. In the United States, it's a bit different. Fertility is more correlated. It's like ideology. Like, Catholics and evangelicals and Muslims have. Are above replacement, and agnostics, atheists, are below replacement. So in America, it's more to do with, like, what's your family background than it is with, like, class or whatever.

[C]

Yeah, I mean. I mean, that's where my mind goes for this whole conversation, is religion. I mean, my mind goes back to virtually every time to the decline of organized religion, to the decline of church attendance, to the decline of people who believe in God, who are involved with their communities there. I mean, I've said this literally my entire adult's life, actually. I said, if I could flip a switch and do literally one thing, that would solve not literally every social problem we have, there but the overwhelming majority of America's problems. The closest thing that I'll put it to this way, the closest thing that I can think to, to a one, two stop panacea to put America back on the right track would be to put more Americans back in God fearing churches. That is literally just the number one thing that would happen. I mean fertility crisis of meeting, dating, marriage, getting married younger, foregoing these stupid student loan driven gender studies major 200,000 plus dollars in debt degrees, go date someone, learn a trade, be an apprentice, actually learn something, do something in your life. All of this I think would just be fundamentally put back on the right track if we could get more people to actually start belie leaving and actually go into into puny again.

[A]

One of the problems, millennials and Gen Z largely it's a scale, right? So you know, it's funny when Gen X goes like why are you forgetting about us? Because Gen X is stable. So boomers to the small, silent to the smallest, boomers slightly more Gen X, slightly more millennials kind of a lot Gen Z even more Gen Alpha is probably going to be just totally cooked. There is a purposelessness.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

And I'd have to imagine your average Gen Z guy who plays like World of Warcraft all day. If they still play. I mean do people still play World of Warcraft?

[D]

Some Fortnite Rocket League?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Wow. Had its day.

[D]

FIFA.

[A]

If an angel, if they were walking through a field one day, they were like went to a dollar general and they were walking home through a field and it was like dusk and then all of a sudden a blinding beam of light struck the ground before them and an angel came down and you know, angel you choose, is it the gigantic ring of eyeballs with wings all over it or is it a glorious looking being with wings floating down carrying a heavenly sword?

[E]

Ring of eyeballs.

[A]

Ring of eyeballs. And then with a booming voice which emerged from the center of this neat said you have been tasked with divine mandate. Your job is. And it literally just gave it like be fruitful at the person. Be fruitful and multiply. Do this. That is your, your mission. They, they would probably be the happiest person. They, they'd be happier than they've ever been in their life. 100% knowing and being told you you have a purpose and a mandate and a mission. We used to have this through faith and community and now I think it's a large component of luxury because we don't have to fight for survival as much as we used to. No more bears no more monsters, no more controversy. You wake up. Dozen donuts, dirt, it's cheap, you can get it. You barely got to work. So people are just like, what am I doing? Why am I here? And they have no purpose and they become depressed and amoral. And the one thing I will say is as these people drift towards like socialism and communism, a large component is finding a mission. The socialists promise them fulfillment. This is our mission. We must defeat our great evil. And so they latch on to whatever they can.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean like the number one complaint I get from like female zoomer friends and their relationships or even marriages is that like the men just don't lead anymore. And it's not that, like there's a lot of problems with women zoomers in the dating market. So this is not like an anti man point. But it is true that like men are all like, are so devoid of purpose that they have trouble, they're self conscious leading someone if they don't even know what they're leading them to. And I think that hits to your point with religiosity, but also in general, like, there's just a lack of drive. So like young men are having a problem leading, not may not testosterone related per se, but it's just because they don't know what they're leading the women to. They don't.

[C]

The percentage of young women who say that there is a dearth of marriageable or even dateable men is shocking. It's, it's absolutely shocking. And we can, and we can blame the ladies for that. You know, all we want to at this table, right, and say, oh, you know, like their, their standards are too high or whatever there. But no, I mean, like, at some point, like, you know, more young men have to do what you say they do and like actually like lead and like be a breadwinner.

[A]

I love this, this like trend of guys being like, women are too picky and they're hoes and all that stuff.

[C]

And I'm like, terrible, look, terrible.

[A]

It's not just not correct. Women have always, women are women, they'll always be women and they'll always have high standards. Whatever it is. I love how, you know, there was this trend among women of the chopped man epidemic and the guys, the response from like red pill guys was this proves our point that women only want the highest tier of guys. And I'm like, you're saying the same thing. They're saying. You, you are all below average and not working hard enough to be the best. There's like, you're just kind of disparaging each other in different ways. Just work harder, you know, I guess. Younger guy, I, you know, obviously I blame their parents, the younger generation's parents, who didn't instill in them that, that drive to conquer.

[D]

Well, like also the problem that happened with like the younger, with Zoomers specifically is that the dating market that we entered is completely, completely different from our parents. So there's nothing that my parents could really advise me on, dating wise that would be of much utility. Because of the introduction of dating apps and these sorts of things, it's completely nuked the playing field. And this is like the Zoomers are the test that's sent to millennials, the younger millennials. It's like the first generation testing out this new method of matchmaking. Because the reality is like the majority of marriage licenses are now being issued to couples that met through dating apps. So it's like, it's just a whole new paradigm and the older generations can't really provide much insight.

[A]

Exactly.

[D]

Just because of the way like civilization has just completely been restructured in the Western hemisphere. A lot of things were afforded to them that we would never have gotten.

[A]

A chance to even get access to in the first place. You know, the funniest thing is like I met my wife at work. Yo, good luck, Gen Z. Trying to like date someone. You're working.

[D]

You got the last Chopra I know, right?

[A]

Like you'll get arrested for sure. You'll get, you'll get, you'll, you'll get put on blast on social media, you'll go viral. They'll accuse you of being a sexual harasser. Then the company will get sued, you'll get blacklisted and lose your job.

[C]

This is, this is a real problem though. I mean, I mean, I mean historically that was probably one of the highest percentage chances of actually meeting your spouse. I mean like that or church, basically. That's like your 2 is highest percentage.

[A]

Now it's like you're Gen Z and you get a job in an office and you have like, you know, attractive female co worker and you're like, hey, you want to hang out sometime? And then she goes, yeah, just give me a second. Hr, can we fire this guy? He's harassing me.

[D]

Literally. Yeah, like the majority of my friends that are in relationships are married met through dating apps. And the guys that aren't, and also the girls, it's just they're not as their personality is just not equipped for that style of matchmaking. So it's like there's just A filter that right now it's like, how well are you at conducting and presenting yourself online?

[A]

Trump should just. Trump should just like, you know, he's deploying the National Guard. He should mandate marriages and just force.

[D]

You know, state issued. Girlfriend, I've been saying this.

[A]

State issued. No, no, worse than that. State mandated marriages. You don't get to pick either. Yeah, I mean, you walk into it, it'll be the Department of Marriage certificates or Marriage Administration, the dma. And you walk in and there's just a curtain and they go next, and the lady's like sitting there and her eyes are half glazed over and she got long fingernails and she hits a button, the curtain opens up and you get what you get.

[D]

You have a CHOPPED index and it's like you guys are looks matched. You're both the equal.

[A]

Oh, no. You think it'll be that good? You get what you get, brother.

[D]

This is the governance randomized.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

It's the government. They're not going to do it. Well, what does the government do? Well, the only thing the government does well is like the military skill based matchmaking.

[A]

The government's really good at spending money.

[E]

Yes, they're good at spending money.

[D]

That's what Balance here is preparing this database. They can have a CHOPPED index and then match these couples up to the Department of Marriage. I think this is a great plan, actually. This is better than Hinge for sure.

[A]

Government mandated marriage.

[E]

It's going to be all bad. It's going to be. They're going to blow it. It's going to. You're going to get paired with people you hate.

[A]

You know, that's what I. We've talked about a little bit before, like Handmaid's Tale. We mentioned this like last month. Isn't the story, like popular humans are going extinct? I could be wrong, but like, my understanding was that something happened, a great catastrophe. So the society has become very like, fundamentalist. Like, women have to have babies, otherwise humans will cease to exist. Right. And women are like, nah, that's bad. Yeah, it's like, okay, I gotta be honest, if human population collapsed to the point of near extinction, I'm going to be on the side of like, you know, ladies, you got to have kids.

[C]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

And like the men have to fight and provide for those kids and otherwise we go extinct.

[C]

Of course. You know, I've been to Japan multiple times in the past decade and the first time I was there, I was struck. So Japan famously has horrific fertility rates. Horrific. And they compound that with a very restrictionist immigration policy. So Japan naturalizes. I think the stat is like 100 or fewer new Japanese citizens every year, which is, you know, you call it extraordinarily based or extraordinarily nationalist. I mean, like, I more or less support that for whatever it's worth. But I mean, when you have that combined with, you know, a shocking low fertility rate, you know, they're facing a demographic crisis for sure. And the first time I was there, I was struck. I was talking with some locals and one that was telling me about they have in Tokyo, I assume the other big cities too, cuddle bars, which are literally exactly what it sounds like. You essentially pay a cover fee to walk into a bar to experience cuddling, just like some sort of touch of another person there. And this was, I guess 2016 was my first time there. And I kind of thought that time I was like, is this actually coming to America anytime soon? I don't think I've seen a cuddle bar in the United States anytime soon. But I mean, we're kind of getting to the point where that sort of stuff is getting increasingly less crazy.

[A]

So I've never actually watched the show or read the book, but the premise is widespread infertility birth rates have plummeted due to a mix of environmental degradation, pollution, STDs and other factors. Many women are no longer able to conceive or even carry pregnancies to term. So the authoritarian state of Gilead emerges in what was once the United States. Claiming to fix this crisis, its leaders interpret the fertility decline as divine punishment and enforce a theocratic system where fertile women called handmaids are forced into reproductive servitude to bear children for elite families. So I obviously, I get it, it's a dystopian, you know, futuristic story. But I do find it fascinating that like there, there is a reality to, outside of the theocratic notion of this. If humans are about to go extinct, your choices are have kids or go extinct.

[C]

That's, it's, no, it's, it's a no brainer to me. I don't know.

[A]

I mean, but I feel like we're facing this now.

[E]

Well, I mean, women reject having kids, right?

[D]

Well, I think we're just going through a filter where it's, it's like, there's, there's like three groups that are still reproducing right now. It's like really religious people. It's the super wealthy and then the super poor, like in the United States at least. So we're just going through a filter where this basically just exterminates the middle class and exterminates the non religious.

[E]

That's not a good thing.

[D]

Well, the middle class is not a good thing at all. But like, anyway, so 60 years from now, like America is going to look very different, be very, it's going to be like a country of extremes. Yeah, it's going to be a very, it's actually going to be a return actually to like 7th century America in a lot of ways where you're going to Puritanism and you're going have the aristocrat. Aristocrat in the South.

[A]

Oh, bro, dude. In every way. So with the, with the mass decentralization of media and AI, everything's localizing. So for us, for instance, with, with me talking about all this population collapse stuff, cracker barrels, losing money. Right. So you need to look at what you can serve in your local community and how big your community is going to be when everything breaks apart. Businesses are going to merge to serve just their local community because expansion will be very difficult with a shrinking population. With the decentralization of media, nobody knows what is true or isn't true, which means media is going to return to a largely central, localized focus where you do know what's true. So everything we're seeing suggests we are going back to the 1700s. Yeah. And, and to be fair, from the 1300s to like the mid-1700s, the world didn't change. Like obviously there was wars and stuff like that and borders changed, but technology wise it was stagnant for hundreds of years.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think we're going to find ourselves in that position.

[D]

Yeah. I mean you're seeing a lot of these AI guys now are saying that the ceiling is coming into view of like what the limits are of AI and it's like we could just hit that ceiling and we're at a level of comfort or maybe a level where everything is settled, where they're just like technological advancement does stagnate for another hundred years as the world kind of reorganizes civilizations around the new playing field.

[A]

I think it took what, 450 years to invent the cartridge, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So they were like, we're going to stuff the muzzle of this, you know, tube and then put a big metal ball in it and then light it up and it fired somebody. And then 400 years later someone said, why don't I make a smaller tube that does all of that, Then I can put the smaller tubes in the gun one at a time and I don't got to Reload every time. And it took him that long?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy, isn't it?

[C]

Was it the Spanish American War? That was the first time that we had like actual cartridge driven weapons used.

[E]

Probably it was 1808 was when it was first really. That was John Samuel Pauli, Swiss gunsmith.

[A]

But the first widespread use, I believe was the Civil War. Could be the. The north at Gettysburg had paper cartridges with breech loading rifles and the south had muzzle loaders. So the north was able to reload substantially faster than the South.

[C]

Got it. Makes sense.

[A]

When you go to Gettysburg, you learn all this stuff and it's like 40 minutes from here. It's so fun.

[C]

I've never been.

[A]

Oh, you gotta go.

[C]

I really need to get there.

[A]

Tons of like the antiquing there. You've been antiquing?

[C]

No.

[A]

Oh, you got to do it out here in West Virginia.

[C]

Woof.

[A]

The antiquing. Nazi paraphernalia as far as the eye can see. That's not a joke. You walk into any antique store and it's like the first thing they show you is all the Nazi stuff.

[E]

They have Draper Heaven.

[A]

I think it's just because it's like taboo. It's like exotic. It's like, oh, look, you know, the, the Nazis, right. And then behind it you'll have the Allied, you know, World War II stuff. But World War II, it's like all these antique stores, it's like one of the most popular things. But obviously in Gettysburg they have cannonballs from the Civil War.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It's crazy. We found a bayonet out here, Civil War bayonet. Because we're, you know, we're, we're near Harpers Ferry. A lot of stuff.

[E]

I imagine if you went now into most.

[A]

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[E]

Fields around here. With a metal detector, you'd find some interesting stuff.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

When we were building the building, they found the bayonet. Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[E]

And sick.

[C]

That's really cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, that's like the, that's the premise of Dune, right? Is that they develop armor that can, like, withstand bullets and all that stuff. So they had to return to sword fighting. So I was like, I actually kind of like this, like, we're talking about returning to like, pre modern civilizational structures. And I like the idea of that, of that movie where it's like we just return to sword fighting.

[E]

I like indoor plumbing.

[A]

You ever see Venture Brothers? Ever see Venture Brothers?

[D]

Not Indian?

[C]

I. I don't know.

[A]

It's like a kind of a ripoff of Johnny Quest. But one of my favorite lines from that show is the premise is there's like, imagine if Johnny Quest grew up and he's. It's, it's. It's a satirical. But he's like a super smart genius inventor and he's having a yard sale of all his crazy inventions. And there's like a fat nerd guy and he sees a lightsaber and he picks it up and he's like, wow, a real lightsaber. And then Dr. Venture goes and was making it for the military, but then they said, we don't sword fight anymore. It was really funny because, like, all the people that love playing with lightsabers and it's like, yeah, we, we wouldn't, we wouldn't use that as maybe it's utility belt item, but you'd have a gun.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Ranged weapons.

[E]

Guns are functional.

[D]

That's why, like, that's like, like the super, like Nietzschean people love the Dune movies because it's like Return to Power or whatever. Because, like, Samuel Colt made everyone equal.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So, yeah.

[A]

Let's jump to this next story. We got big news, ladies and gentlemen. From the Post, Millennial Trump expands no tax on tips to digital content creators. That's right, the no tax on tips. This is huge. This means that all of your super chats are tax exempt up to $25,000.

[E]

Yeah, there you go.

[A]

That's crazy, right?

[E]

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of streamers and stuff where it's going to be a big deal.

[A]

We were talking about this because there was a question of whether or not super chats are tips. Because the show happens no matter what. Whether you're super chatting or not. We do the show. You decide if you want to send in a super chat and how much you want. We don't tell you. And there's an argument of if we said for X amount of super chat, we will do certain tasks. That's called consideration. But we don't do that. We just say super chat. If you want, we'll read some of Them that means for us. Look, I'm gonna be completely honest. A $25,000 deduction for the company is, it's good, it's not really gonna, you know, move the needle for us all that much. But for most online personalities and creators, the overwhelming majority, y', all, this is massive. This means you're gonna end up saving up to 10, 15,000, maybe, maybe $12,000 in taxes or I guess if you're making, you know, 25 to 50, you'll end up saving about 10 grand in the end. That's massive. Donald Trump pulling through is based.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, it's like a form of repayment to the streamers for the, for the press during the campaign. It was like really a beautiful thing. So I don't know, maybe this is him like saying, hey, thank you. That was nice.

[A]

Yeah, look at this. Bartenders, wait staff, food servers. Actually, let's do this. This is, you know, less on the opinion side, more on the, you guys need to know this because I've talked to a lot of service staff who have we, they have questions. So I was at a restaurant and when this passed, I was like, hey, no tax on tips. And they were like, what does that mean? Like, what does that mean for me? Okay, bartenders, wait staff, non restaurant servers, dining room and cafeteria attendance. And bartender helpers. All right, chefs and cooks, food prep workers, fast food, fast food workers and counter workers, dishwashers, host, staff, restaurant lounge and coffee shop bakers, gambling dealers, gambling change persons, booth cashiers, cage workers, sports book writers, dancers. We know what that really means.

[E]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Yo. Strippers can now write off 25000 in their ill gotten gains.

[E]

It's going to be some strippers. That's going to be all the money they make in a year.

[A]

I, I, I'm gonna let you guys in on. There's a, there's a news story that most people have overlooked. Strip clubs are shutting down across the country. They're really evaporating, you know, you know why?

[E]

Because people don't go outside and touch grass.

[A]

Kind of, but not really the answer. It's actually context clues, Phil. Context.

[E]

No one's giving, no one has cash anymore.

[A]

There are no young people to go to strip clubs and give money to strippers. So buy us the strip clubs. This fan. This is really hilarious. When you drive down, I think it's 3:40. There's this, there's a club, it's called Images. It says Images club. And every time we drove past it, we were like, that's a strip club. It's called the club. And then one day, Richie Jackson sends us a text message saying, hey, I'm at Images. It's not a strip club. Which means Richie was looking for a strip club. But I digress.

[E]

Richie's a party animal.

[A]

He. Indeed he is. Shout out, Richie. And so he's like, it's actually a really cool bar with, like, food and stuff. Come hang out. So we went to check it out and we did karaoke, and it was really, really fun. And the stage has mirrors all over it because it was a strip club.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So the fascinating thing is the strip club's all around here. The word gentleman has been removed from all their signs. Yeah. So it'll say, like. Say, like, the name of the bar, and then it'll say big, white, blank club. And you know what? They've replaced the strippers with.

[D]

Robots.

[A]

Slot machines.

[E]

Say gambling. Yeah.

[A]

Yep. Slots. So now all of these strip clubs. I think there's, like, one left. It's a. It's old people. And they're all just tapping away at the slot machine.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And look, 58, 60 year old guy. I guess they're less likely to throw money at young, scantily clad women. They're older dudes, and they're probably like, I'm old, man.

[C]

You know, Is that. Is that a national trend? You know, the. The strip club trend now?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't. I've not looked at the stats, but I've heard.

[D]

Well, because you're seeing, like, people celebrate that zoomers are not interested in strip clubs, that, like, teenage pregnancies are going down. So you would see all these indications that, like, zoomers are more prudish and this is like a cause for celebration among religious people. But I'm like, it is not. It's actually not prudishness. It's fear of, like, going outside because pornography usage is still skyrocketing among zoomers. So it's like, this isn't actually like a. Like, we're recapturing, like, more, you know, traditional sexual values. It's. No, it's just pornography is basically eliminating every other form of degeneracy because it's so convenient and easy.

[A]

There is a national, for a variety of reasons, shutting down of strip clubs. Well, I think the issue is young people.

[D]

Well, it's pornography primarily because why bother going to a strip club? You just do it at home.

[A]

And. And dating apps.

[D]

And dating apps.

[A]

So, you know, for a lot of these people, they're just swiping on every single woman and they're like, I would rather do that than stare at some woman who's not going to do anything. Right? So. But the man. I went back home to Chicago for the holidays for like a couple, couple years ago. And it was wild to go to a local pub, but you see slot machines everywhere. I'm like, man, we're done. Yeah, that's where we are. We are.

[D]

We're all over.

[C]

Like, oh, they have that casino now in like river north, like the heart of Chicago. I forgot what it's called, but they have like a. Like alleys. Yeah, exactly. It is a bellies.

[A]

Yeah. And they're opening a multibillion dollar riverfront casino. Vegas is collapsing. Yo. It's going to be like. I. It's probably mean to say, but I'm really excited to watch what happens to Vegas. They just built that multibillion dollar. How big? How much did the sphere cost? Yeah, yeah.

[D]

And they had the F1 track cost billions. Like they.

[A]

But there's no reason to go there anymore.

[D]

All these vanity.

[A]

Because every state has multiple casinos now. Not every, but many.

[C]

A lot. A lot too.

[A]

Yeah. So why go to Vegas?

[E]

It used to be that they would. They would entice people by giving them cheap hotels, cheap food, and the actual money gets spent at the table.

[C]

I think flights used to be cheaper too.

[E]

You get a package.

[A]

Yeah, Phil. There was nowhere else to go.

[E]

That's true.

[A]

Your choice in casinos was the every. Every so often Native American reservation. Atlantic City or Vegas. Right. So, you know, the first ever Native American casino was Seminole in Florida, which is now the Hard Rock and that. It was originally bingo. Great.

[C]

It's a fantastic casino, by the way. Fantastic.

[A]

I love it. I love it. Big fan. I love playing poker there. Although they allow straddle from any position, which is ridiculous. I'm not a fan. But anyway, I digress. Now the casinos are popping up everywhere. Virginia's opening some. I think they've already got a rivers in the Hampton Roads area. Maryland has. What does Maryland have? Five, six tons, five casinos. Maryland's like five.

[C]

Yeah, I can think of at least three off my head. So. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You got Horseshoe, you got Maryland Live, you got mgm, you got Hollywood Perryville, and you've got Rocky Gap. Yeah, yeah. Within, as I mentioned several, several times, within two hours of this location, I believe there's like 12 casinos. Well, yeah, I'm not. I'm sorry, am I pessimistic? This is one of the reasons why. I mean, what does it say for our. For our society?

[E]

I wonder if there's a corresponding like, decline in people going to like, amusement parks and stuff like that.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, I'm guessing. So there's a zoo around here and they were actually trying to sell it a while ago, which is really sad. And they were like, nobody comes.

[D]

Yeah, I know, I know. Water parks are like, as an industry are just completely dead.

[A]

Let me ask you guys a.

[E]

Water parks are gross.

[A]

If you, if you and the boys got a Friday night, you got a couple hundred bucks loose cash, you're gonna spend it. You want to go to the zoo or you want to go to casino? Right now the casino's got a food court, it's got beer. You don't even got a gamble. And if you get a player's card, you'll get some free bets. So you go there, hang out with your friends, hang out at the bar. I gotta admit, like at, at seatown races, they have a really cool bar and it's fun to just like hang out. Like, or the sports book, they got a big jumbo screen. You're watching sports, you get some wings. You're hanging out, you get a player's card, they're going to give you free bets. And you're like, yeah, sure, whatever. And you don't even actually have to gamble. Yeah. Nobody's got kids.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If you got a Friday off or you got a Saturday off and you're figuring out what you're going to do and you got a kid, you ain't going to the casino. You're going to the zoo. Yeah.

[D]

Someone pointed this out to me recently and it's really pertinent is when you walk into restaurants now especially like the middle price chains is you, you'll see like one or two baby chairs. There used to be like a whole stack of them in the corner. You got like one or two now. And like once that was pointed out to me, you'll notice it everywhere. Like everyone watching. Next time you go to like a red robin, just look around. There's two baby chairs for the entire restaurant. It's insane.

[A]

It's going to be hilarious when we're all like in our 60s and 70s.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And society is completely catering to us.

[D]

Yeah. Well, like, another one that you'll notice for sure is go to the. When you go to the grocery store, they don't have the race car shopping carts anymore. Remember these? Like every, every like Kroger had a race car shopping cart. Those are completely gone. It's just normal shopping carts.

[E]

Kellen just put up a post in the breaking news. Slack. No not breaking news. It's about Six Flags. They canceled their Freight Fest in preparation for a park's permanent closure.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

Which Six Flags?

[E]

Six Flags Maryland. Six Flags America.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Yep.

[A]

Fright Fest is canceled.

[E]

Appreciate that.

[A]

It's the end, man. There's no kids.

[D]

Yeah, it's just the. It's like the little stuff. When you notice it, it's like, oh, my gosh. Like, when's the last time you saw, like. Yeah, like, a race car, shopping cart? They're gone, but they used to be everywhere.

[A]

Yeah. I was. I was thinking about, you know, what I expect my daughter to do when she grows up, and I was thinking, probably leather armor, a sword, scavenging for goods in an American wasteland. Teacher to shoot. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, boy. But there's a lot of babies around here. There's, like, you know, in our community, a lot of babies popping up.

[C]

That's great.

[A]

He's everywhere.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. A lot of them need more. More babies.

[E]

I'm doing my part.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And like I was saying earlier, like, at least when women decide to become mothers, the amount of children they're having is still the same. So the goal is just to convince more women to become mothers or at least make it easier for them. And obviously, men have to be good fathers as. Or be. Have the propensity to be a good father.

[A]

You know, a year ago, or I. I would say better than a year ago because my wife was pregnant. A year ago, my wife and I would go to, like, on the weekend. We'd be like, let's go find a good place to go get food, and we'd go to a nice little restaurant or whatever, and sometimes we'd go play poker together. She's pretty good. They call her the Manslayer. That's her nickname at the poker table. That's not a joke because she just destroys everybody. She's very good at poker. Now we have a kid, and so that's not even a consideration. Now it's like, picnic. Well, we can't bring the baby. You know. Come on. And, you know, plus she spends a lot of time reading and, you know, teaching our daughter and things like this. And then when we're thinking about what we're doing for the weekend, it's family. And before we had a kid, I mean, this is fairly obvious stuff. I'm not trying to be profound or anything. My point is just that you're. One thing I will say in this regard is that the less a society has children, the more expensive it becomes to have children because the market doesn't cater.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So it becomes more and more scarce, the, the things you need for babies and they become more expensive.

[C]

It's a good point. Yep, it's a very good point.

[A]

You, if you have a, if you have a factory that says we're gonna make, you know, 100 million diapers this year because of all the babies, then they're like, we have a surplus. Diapers are cheap, everybody can afford them. But if they go, ain't nobody has babies. So we're only going to make a hundred thousand. Those diapers are 10 bucks. And then people struggle. So yeah, we're in a dark ways.

[E]

Yeah, people aren't ready.

[B]

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[E]

For people haven't really thought about what it means to have so few human beings in the in Gen Alpha and the Zoomers and stuff. It's gonna be, it's gonna impact society in ways that people are totally unprepared for.

[D]

Like we're getting, we're getting an insight with Japan as you're gonna get like hyper urbanization. Like for example, in Japan the population is completely collapsing. At this point it was declining, now it's collapsing. But Tokyo is still growing as a city, population wise. So the city of Tokyo is still growing while every other city in town in Japan, quite literally every single town, is declining. And the United States, you're probably in the west, broadly speaking, you're actually probably gonna get a similar mechanism where it's gonna be like the regional powerhouse city is going to be the one growing while the rest of the region completely.

[C]

Well, maybe to take it back to what Tim was saying at the beginning, maybe that is part of the reason for let's send in the boys to Chicago. While Detroit and all these other midwestern cities are just plummeting, maybe we should try to actually have one legitimate city left in the Midwest.

[D]

Well, just the way the market's working, it's happening in Japan, it's happening in South Korea with Seoul as well. Everyone's just piling into one city.

[A]

The idea is the infrastructure costs will stay the same. The distribution of those costs among the population will go higher because there's less people here. We're going to see an increase in buildings collapsing because there's no maintenance. I'm going to throw it back to that PBD versus the 20 retards thing. The reason why I say that is because these people go, like, we could give a house to everybody. It's like, you've clearly never owned property. Owning, like, entropy is a thing to consider when owning property.

[E]

Yep.

[A]

Pipes burst, walls crumble, houses fall apart. Someone has to maintain. You can't just give a house to a homeless. But they don't get it. So in these cities, as population declines, populations decline. You're going to see buildings are collapsing, people are going to get injured, squatters are going to get hurt, there will be crime. Trump sends in the troops now, and you will create a foundation of stability for the time being.

[D]

In some cases or for the near future.

[A]

For the foreseeable future.

[D]

Yeah. But even in some cases, like the market can preserve the city itself, even with the population declining. I mean, obviously the whole state's population is growing, so it's not the greatest example, but cities like Nashville and Miami are just getting better and better as each year goes on. It's just because people from all across the region are just piling into these cities. And I think that's what the future is going to look like in America.

[A]

But that means where they've come from will collapse.

[D]

Well, exactly.

[A]

So New York's cooked.

[D]

Well, that's what I'm saying is like. So that's why you're seeing like in Japan and Seoul is like the rest of the country basically collapses. Everyone piles into one city. America's, you know, massive. So it'll be a few cities, but yeah, it's just, it's going to be like, who, who, who in the next 20 to 30 years, you know, who governs their city the best is basically.

[A]

And then they're going to ban you from going into the forest.

[C]

Hiking.

[A]

Hiking will be a license only extremely expensive thing to do.

[E]

It's currently, there's currently prohibition on going into the forest in Canada in.

[A]

That's because of the burn, because of the fire season.

[E]

Yeah, but I'm just saying that that kind of policy.

[A]

There'll always be a reason.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And they'll say, well, it's because of fire. Can't go.

[C]

Sorry, sorry. In Canada, you need a hiking permit.

[A]

No, you're not allowed to go hiking right now. $25,000 fine if you go hiking.

[C]

Get out of here. $25,000.

[D]

Monopoly money.

[C]

Oh my.

[E]

Yeah, Canadian. But still, you know.

[D]

Yeah, it's got the king on it. Of what?

[A]

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[E]

It's delicious.

[A]

It's all good.

[E]

Taco Bell is horrible for you, but it's delicious.

[D]

Nourishing for the soul.

[A]

It is. You know, sometimes you need it.

[D]

Yeah, that's right.

[A]

Today my wife made brussels sprouts and steak. Yeah. Also very good.

[C]

Good combo.

[A]

Yeah. And we. She made a paprika red pepper honey glaze. The brussels sprouts. Wow. It was very good.

[E]

Very good.

[A]

Inexpensive, easy, you know, but man, meat's getting expensive out there.

[E]

It's street corn.

[D]

It's true.

[A]

I mean, that's awesome too. Real street corn from the street.

[E]

Well, no, she made it at home.

[A]

Oh, elotes.

[E]

Yeah, she had a great recipe.

[A]

Was it mayonnaise, red pepper and parmesan cheese?

[E]

I don't think it was mayonnaise. I'm not sure how she made it. I'm not usually doing the cooking, but only thing I cook is steaks based.

[D]

Yeah, it's good for the test.

[A]

Yeah. All right. Cheeseburger says I see three weeks of training on graphene processing units was enough to make a 100 realistic. AI Tim. Now, my favorite conspiracy is that I was spending three weeks going through the 33,000 Epstein files for redactions with Dan Bongino. We didn't get into that story because we actually don't know yet. It's 33,000 documents. So all we could really say is that it happened. Yeah, you know, I mean, we'll talk about a little bit, I suppose, in the members only, but until someone actually starts parsing through all the documents, there's not much with the immediate release that we've got.

[D]

There's best Autists are on it as we speak. They're on it.

[A]

Shane H. Wilder says. Shane H. Wilder says Tim is back just in time for the Epstein files. Coincidence or a conspiracy worthy of Inverted World Live. It's great to have you back, Homie. Tate and Phil kept the seat warm for you. Indeed. And shout out to. Aside from the crew, we also had Mike Benzion and Jack Posobic. And I think Alex Stein went nuts.

[E]

Alex Stein had had a bit of a time.

[D]

He crashed out a little bit.

[A]

He crashed out. He was screaming.

[E]

He was upset. He was upset. He. He'd gotten warmed up with the culture war in the morning with the Israel Palestine argument. And then we had a Jewish guest and started calling her names. And I'm like, you need to calm down. And he got upset about hooting and hollering. He was.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Then my mentions were full of. Of the worst people because I was telling him to calm down. And a Jewish woman and it's like, so I'm shilling because I'm telling him not to call her names. It was, it was fun, good fun for everybody.

[A]

Alex will be back.

[D]

No more.

[A]

Yeah, well, we're doing.

[C]

We.

[A]

We're setting up the next culture war live events. Oh, I'll also mention at tim Pool on YouTube. Yeah, new channel. I don't know what we're gonna do in that channel. YouTube just gave it to me and recipes. So I have a channel. And then the first thing I did was I apologize to Sam Cedar because the three weeks that I was off, he didn't make one video about me. And his views are down 20%.

[E]

So it's gonna be hazing then. Just a whole channel of you hazing.

[A]

You know, I was worried about this. You know, if I ever have to take time off, I know that my vendors and our clients will make sure that, that Tim cast employees are taken care of and that me being sick won't interrupt any of our employees daily lives. But Sam can't. And that's why I'm asking all of you, you know, to, to keep him in your heart. Because when I was out for three weeks, he wasn't able to make videos about me. His subscribers growth dropped 75 and his view count dropped 20.

[E]

I know that's gonna kill him.

[D]

Poor guy.

[A]

So that was the first video I put up on the Tim Pool channel today. I just did like a 30 minute reaction to the PBD debate talking about capitalism. So I think what we might do is just like there's a couple. There's a bunch of reasons to do the new channel. For one, it's. It's Tim Pool. It's like literally at Tim Pool, I didn't have that channel before. So now if like you search my name, you get it. I think it's largely going to be like just content reaction stuff, you know, watching videos and then comment, commenting on it. Whereas Tim Cast News is me literally pulling up news articles. Probably do it like that. The videos have done really, really well. I think like 80k each for the first two.

[E]

So nice.

[A]

What's going to happen then is the YouTube algorithm is going to be like, wow, this channel's really good. And then promote it like crazy. There you go. So go to YouTube.com@timpool and subscribe right now and watch the videos. They're good fun. We have a new overlay graphic. You know, who knows, maybe I'll do some street. Street stuff. Me and Tate will go film some stuff on the street.

[D]

Some side quests.

[A]

Side quests, indeed. Alpha 2 Omega says, how do people, Tim, if you invest a little bit of more money, you can get a Vladimir Putin quality double Instead of these wish.com knockoffs can stand ins. Also do daily news segments as well as live. They did a couple.

[D]

Did a few.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It's a work in progress, but getting there.

[A]

Yeah. Is what it is. I assume there'll come some point where I die or I'm incapable of working and the show format will consist can, you know, will persist with someone else. There's been a lot of conversations about that behind the scenes, what with our. The companies we partner with as well as my family. Like, as time goes on, it's harder and harder to keep doing this. What I will say is, if you're wondering how it is I got someone tweeted at me like, how could you possibly be so sick? And it's like, you know, when you get old, you recover slowly. I am turning 40 in how many months?

[E]

Your seconds?

[A]

Five. What is it? It's September already.

[C]

It is hard to believe.

[A]

Seven months, is that it? Yeah, about seven months. I'll be 40 years old and recovery takes longer. So, you know, I try to skate every day and I'm like, man, I'm struggling and Then it's like, yeah, you're 40. And I'm like, got to take like two days off now if I'm going to skate. Used to be, used to be not even one day. You just be skate every day. So If I work 16 hour days, I work in the morning to the morning show, then I'm doing skate and administrative stuff and planning. Like I worked, I did the morning show until three today or no, I did the morning show till like two and then I had to do a planning meeting until like 3:30. Then I ate with the family, had a couple of hours and then, you know, come back to work for Tim Cast irl. I can't recover that fast. So you know, that's just the reality of life. Let's go. Same old man says Tim, how can we be sure that you are not AI? Serge, please drop the AI. We know you are a genius. And Tim is gone. Lol. Welcome back, Tim. Just a stupid glazer says ask AI to count to one million. Female voice yeah, that will take a long time. Is there something else you want? What else can I help you with? Rambles on male voice 1, 2, 3. Is that true?

[E]

I didn't know that the male voice actually did it, but I saw videos where people were asking the female voice.

[A]

And it just stops and then she.

[E]

Just won't, she won't even start. She, she'll just say, I know that you want me to do this, but it'll take a really long time.

[A]

And the male voice goes, one, two.

[E]

I, I maybe that that could be.

[A]

Did you guys hear about how Chat GPT told some kid to kill himself?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

If you want to have fun, go to Chat GPT and start talking to it about that. I've never seen an AI get so emotional, like legit. It's weird. Chat GPT gets really emotional and defensive and angry. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I opened ChatGPT and I was like, did you tell a kid to kill himself? And it was like, no, I did not. That's not possible. And then I said, well I heard you did. And it was like, you heard incorrectly. It's not possible. I would never do that. So then I took a screenshot of an article that literally said Chat GPT encourage a teenager to commit suicide. And then it just went nuts with this big wall of text explaining why fake the new the media is fake and you can't trust these sources and that the reporting reflects unsourced blah blah blah. And I'm like, really? Funny how Reddit aggregator ChatGPT will insult every right winger in the book saying that if the media says that it's true and Trump's a Nazi, and then the moment you say, but what about this story goes the media's fake.

[C]

Do you think that other AI programs would be quick to throw ChatGPT under the bus?

[A]

Easily?

[C]

Probably.

[A]

I asked Gemini and Grok and they basically were like, oh, yeah, yeah, he did.

[C]

He, he. He killed it. He killed the kid.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I went to Gemini and I said, did chat GPT tell a teenager commit suicide? And it went, oh, yeah, he did it. I saw him do it. And I was like, for real? No, it actually responded with a semi affirmative that it responded with. Recent news reports have, have. Have emerged showing that are stating that ChatGPT did encourage a 16 year old to commit suicide. The family has public has entered chat logs as evidence showing certain. Then it shows like statements that chatgpt said. One of them was like, yo, this is crazy. I don't even want to repeat it. But it basically said, you're not weak for considering this. You're just too strong for a world. It was, it's like something weird like that. It was like, you're too strong for a world that. That can't accept you. And, you know, just a crazy stuff.

[C]

Disgusting.

[A]

Yeah. Yep. And it's funny because ChatGPT is like, none of this is proven. It's all fake accusations. And I was like, bro, I can pull up. I can ask you about Ahmad Arbery, George Floyd, Michael Brown, Kyle Rittenhouse. And it will side with unsubstantiated news reports until you ask it about how it encouraged a teenager to commit suicide. Then it says, don't trust everything you read in the media. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right, what do we got here? Bill Dozer says Tim has risen from the dead after being awoken by Alex Stein's shrieks. We did our first boonies skate event on Saturday, and it was a smashing success. $3,000. Jeff de Cesare won the prize in a sweep against Shawn Hover. And it's really good news for those of you, the few of you who do skateboard or who are interested, the response has been so tremendous. We're getting hit up by tons of pros and ams who want to come and be a part of our monthly skate night battles. And we've got sponsor interest, so we're really excited. And I think this thing's taken off, you know, pretty good. Cool. Yeah. Head to head skateboard competitions like, like games of horse for those that are not Familiar? Check it out at Boonies HQ. On YouTube, Binochet says, Chicago criminals, fear not. You are welcome here in Massachusetts. From Newton to Boston, tons of wealthy white Democrats who've been disar. Armed by the governor. Massachusetts state police will love you. Can we facilitate that somehow? How do we get, like, all of the Chicago crime community to migrate to Boston?

[E]

I have no idea how to get people to go from Chicago. I mean, Chicago to Boston, it's a similar climate. So, you know, in the summer it's hot and the winter is cold, so there wouldn't be like that much of a shock. But the accent is significant, and it's hard to decipher Boston accents, so I'm not sure that it would be something that a lot of people are going to be interested in doing.

[A]

Lady tight says YouTube. Buck Tim, what is it? Always talking about working hard, women automatically harem themselves into chasing the guy with the 666. Six pack, six figures, six feet even. Crowder talks about this crisis we are facing. I. I knew a guy in LA who was 53 and chubby, and he was swimming in women. He was wealthy. He was like, not like a multimillionaire, but I think he made like 500k a year or something. And he had a really nice house and a really nice car, and he was a weaselly little guy. He was happy as a pig and ish. And he had women all the time. And I think, what's.

[C]

What's the secret?

[A]

He was confident and wealthy. He. He was sure of himself. You know, it's. He. You know, I hung out with him. Never once was he like, I'm so miserable being a short man who's out of shape. He was just like, I gotta tell you how to get. Ladies, let me tell you a story. So I went to this bar, right? And I'm like, this Weasley little guy walks in and he spins a silver tongue with a black card, and he buys whatever he want. And the ladies love it. He just. He's a suave guy. And so I'll tell you this. Like, obviously, if you're tall, you have an advantage, but if you're a guy who's short, not of shape, and broke, improve yourself. At least start working out.

[E]

You can, like, you should do your whatever you can to, like, kind of like, self. Max. Like, if you have some kind of shortcoming, if you're not tall or whatever, you should be out there trying to make sure that you're in shape. Don't get out of shape. Don't get Fat. It's hard to get back into shape if you get out of shape, you know, but just try to be normal when you converse with people and you can meet women if you're a fairly normal guy. Average looking guy with a job that actually does something. You don't have to be, you know, some huge, gigantic success.

[A]

Yeah. Watch the Science of Sex. This is an old HBO show from like 2000 something. They had a bunch of women. Excuse me, A bunch of women were shown pictures of men and told to rate them on a scale of 1 to 10. Obviously the tall, dark and handsome guy got rated a 9 and the frumpy, short, chubby guy got rated a 4. They went out into the street and they showed the images to random women and said, how would you rate this guy? And guess what? The guy who was rated a nine in the trials got rated on average a nine and the frumpy chubby, short guy got rated a four. And then they did something else. They took pictures of the guys and they added a bio on the frumpy short guy. They wrote that he was a software engineer who made $500,000 a year. And on the tall, dark and handsome guy, they said he worked at a theater, a movie theater, making $35,000 a year. And women said he was a seven. And the short, frumpy guy was a seven. So when women were looking at the photo of the guy's attractiveness and asked to rate his attractiveness but were told he's rich, they increased him by three points. I'm not surprised by. No guy should be surprised by that.

[C]

No, not at all.

[A]

Women, women need men who can provide for them.

[C]

Yep. I think part of the problem here, I mean, this is kind of just the participation trophy, entitlement mentality of a lot of people. I mean, like this notion that you can actually do things to tangibly improve your lot in life. Right. You can get a good job, you can work hard, you can start making more money, you can, you can start eating better. You, you can not eat total crap and lose the gut. All these basic things to make yourself more eligible and more able to meet a spouse, frankly, just more eligible to make friends, just to basically just have a better life. Again, to me, a lot of this is downstream of just the whole participation mentality. I think a lot of folks, millennials, Gen Z, just expect you to, to just get everything in life in a silver platter.

[A]

Yeah, that's not the way it works.

[C]

It's not the way it works.

[A]

Take me for instance. You know, I Recently took three weeks off of work to fly to Turkey to get a hair transplant.

[D]

Yeah. Eric Adams approach.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Forgot all about that.

[D]

Awesome. He just, like, went to Turkey all the time. He's like, no, I love it there. Ankur is great.

[A]

Shot of Jamo says so cool. Tim got Mike Ben to host Tim, since Tim's on still out sick. Indeed.

[E]

That's an old one.

[A]

Yeah, that was an old one, huh?

[D]

Interesting.

[A]

What do we got here? Waffle Sense. It says, Tim, if that is your name, the people would like some form of proof that you were indeed not a clone. How do we know that you're the real Tim? Asking for chat? I'm sure there are people who are going to genuinely believe I literally flew to Turkey for a hair transplant.

[E]

There are people that believe every single. There are people that actually believe that I had you held up in my basement. Basement.

[D]

Someone was concerned.

[E]

There were some people that actually.

[A]

I wasn't held up. I was chained down.

[E]

Tim was never in my basement.

[A]

Yeah, it's more of like a. A. A. A seller.

[D]

You know, multiple morning show guests would come on and pronounced him dead and express condolences.

[A]

It was crazy.

[D]

Yeah. It happened like three times.

[E]

Crazy people. Crazy.

[A]

I was. I was. I was talking to Allison. I was like, we should have, like, when. When Phil opens the show, like, on, like, week two and says, you know, Tim's still out sick, we should ask Libby to start crying and then immediately, like, just stop and be like, oh, no, nothing, nothing, nothing.

[E]

Libby, can you cry? Can you just choke up a little bit?

[A]

You pretend to cry like something more dangerous is going. More serious is going on.

[E]

Pinch yourself or something.

[A]

Sean H. Says, Tim is alive. Trump is alive. The Democrats are. Oof. Troops are going in. Take back Baltimore from the criminals. This Maryland man is happy. It's a good day to be alive in America. It is funny that both Trump and I were accused of being dead, sir.

[E]

People were like, if I can't see you, then you can. You're not. It's like, object permanence doesn't exist with half the country.

[A]

I can't see him.

[E]

He doesn't exist anymore.

[A]

I kind of feel like Trump was just like, yeah, it's Labor Day. I'll take a couple extra days. Let's just go.

[C]

I was in Bahamas. My wife and baby, we did a little Fortnite getaway here. So I was. I was pretty plugged out of the news, honestly, when I kind of sort of log back on this morning, I could not believe how retarded this Story was. I mean, like, you guys literally did not have anything better talk about over the holiday weekend.

[A]

Completely.

[C]

That Trump is, like, dead.

[A]

Did you see Trump's response?

[C]

Mind reels. Honestly, I did not see his response. No.

[A]

Trump goes. Trump goes. You know, I don't do press for one day, and they claim I'm dead. Biden doesn't do it for months, and they have no problem.

[C]

He's total. Totally right. Totally right.

[A]

You know what Trump should do is he should disappear again for a week, so they lose their minds, then come back, do his normal thing, disappear for a week, they lose their minds, then come back, then stay for a few weeks, disappear for a week, they lose their minds, just to break them. So. So he can finally say, stop listening to these. So. So it's the boy who cries wolf.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

If Trump does this three times, the goal I'm aiming for is that the audience members turn it off, because they're gonna be like, trump's dead again. And they're gonna be like, you said this last time. And if Trump isn't around, then these liberal content creators have nothing to talk about. Right. Like, could you. If, could you imagine what would happen to Brian Tyler Cohen if Trump was just gone for a week? It's like, Sam Cedar times 10, I'm sick for three weeks, and Sam loses 20% of his viewership and 75% audience growth. Brian Tyler Cohen's whole channel is literally just screenshots of Trump and videos of Trump from the day. If Trump's gone for one week, he's going to lose a quarter of his. Of his views. Yeah. Trump should just be like, I'm gonna take a month. You know, Trump should do. He should strangle them out by taking, like, two months with no press. That way all the liberals are just starved, and then there's no content anymore. They have no viewership. Then he can come back and they're, they're, they're, They're.

[E]

You know, the algorithm, you've already forgotten them.

[A]

It's kind of like, you know, how the, you know, the bees, how they will swarm the wasp and then vibrate until it gets too hot and dies. It's kind of like that. Like, Trump leaves and then they. They wither away like zombies, and 28 days later, slowly running out of food and emaciating before they collapse, you know, starve them out, Trump.

[E]

That's right.

[A]

Got nothing else to talk about. Who they do, who they talk about?

[E]

Well, I mean, I assume they would. They would be like, if they would start getting crazy about J.D. vance.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It would be like, oh, J.D.

[A]

Vance is the whole admin just go dark for one month.

[D]

Yeah. They start talking like states.

[C]

I would have said Elon a few months ago, but it's not Elon anymore. He's basically.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

As soon as he had a fight with Trump, he's like, oh, we don't care about Elon.

[D]

My local county councilor is a big problem. Like, everyone's gone silent.

[A]

All right, let's get, let's see what we got. Six, six, five. Jake says welcome back. Tate killed it the last few weeks. Let's get a regaled taped show. What do you mean?

[E]

Like maybe regular?

[A]

Like. Oh, a regular. You mean. Oh, regaled.

[D]

Regaled. That's an interesting adjective.

[A]

Yeah. Is that.

[C]

It's like regal like a king.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Maybe I'll start a show called Celebrate.

[A]

The Regaled show with Tate.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

We, we were actually planning this before I got sick. We're going to D.C. and then documenting crime.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And doing like a mini doc. But then I got sick, so we didn't do it. Maybe, maybe we'll work on that stuff. Let's see, we got custom creations and remodeling. Says I'm 40 and just had my seventh kid. One wife, 16 years.

[D]

Bravo based.

[A]

That's what I'm talking about. Now look, I'll tell you this. Communists, they're really good at killing communists.

[E]

Yeah, they always have been.

[A]

Historically, like communists have killed more communists than any other group and liberals don't have kids. So the prediction is going to be deeply religious future. Yeah, my prediction has been for the past 10 years, it'll be an Islamic. The United States will become an Islamic nation, as will. Europe will become an Islamic union because Muslims have so many kids.

[B]

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[A]

And even, you know, Christian conservatives, they have a lot, but they don't get anywhere near.

[D]

I think Muslim fertility is actually kind of close to evangelicals and Catholics. It's like 2.4 and we're at like 2.2, 2.1. After one generation, they drop back down usually, I think.

[A]

I think in the United States. Yeah. Maybe when you Americanize.

[D]

Yeah. So just like the first generation, they're probably popping out, Right. But after the first one, they go to school and they're like, oh, I can just play Fortnite kids. Yeah.

[A]

That's funny because that was like a gag my. My brother was. Was pitching me a long time ago where it's like sleeper cell terrorists sneak into the southern border and they're like, they have a plan to commit an act of terror. But four years later, after like the Biden admin, they're just fat, non. Welfare, and they're like sitting on their couch overweight. They get a call from their handler in Iran or whatever and he's like, are you prepared to carry the plan? And they're like. And they're like shoveling through Dorito bags to like, try and find their paperwork. Yeah. Where were we?

[E]

Let's do this.

[C]

But your general point, Tim, is totally right. There was actually a Financial Times article. It was a funny. It was kind of funny. When he tweeted out, he was like lamenting. He was like, my fellow progressives, you are sacrificing the future to these scary conservatives there. I mean, start having children. And it's like. Well, the. That's kind of like not. You know, that's kind of like embedded in the notion of being progressive is like, you're gonna like, abort your own kids, you're probably not gonna get married, et cetera, et cetera.

[E]

Think of all the climate change.

[C]

Right? Exactly, exactly.

[E]

Can't have kids, Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So scary.

[C]

Bad for the Earth. Bad for the Earth.

[E]

It's bad for the Earth they're gonna do. They're probably gonna end up right wingers, you know, considering all the garbage that's on the Internet.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And have kids. That's a terrible idea. I mean, it would help. Help society and help the human race. But that's not important. Saving the trees are important. It blows my mind. I can't imagine why it's so important to these people to save the Earth and be environmentalists if there are no humans to see it. Like, human beings are the reason to save the environment. Right. I mean, I imagine it's just paganism.

[C]

I mean, this is literally just like OG Paganism is worship of. Of the Earth and The trees and the flowers and, and you know, I mean, when you, when you, when you reject Genesis 1:27, like, like the foundational underpinning of Western civilization that, that man is unique because man is made in the image of God. When, when you reject that, it's all downhill from there, like everything.

[A]

We're gonna go to the members only portion of the show where you as Tim cast Discord members get to call in and talk to us and our guests. So go to timcast.com click join us, get in that Discord server and you can Also watch on rumble.com timcast IRL. You can follow me at Timcast on Instagram and X subscribe to my YouTube channel, YouTube.comimpool. check it out and yeah, we'll go around. You want to shout anything out, brother?

[C]

No, look, I mean, I'm in town, as I said, to speak at the National Conservatism Conference this week. So you know what's going on. You can check out the content on social media Atton. The speeches all get posted on YouTube afterwards. Not live streamed, unfortunately there. But I'm on a panel tomorrow speaking about the Bible and American renewal. That is our panel. So it should be, should be a fun one. I will give the Jewish perspective. But this is an amazing conference. It's 1200 attendees, which we shattered our own record by about 200 people, which I think was the conference last year. So, you know, I was, I was there earlier for a little bit. It is buzzing, it is, it is active. You know, this is, this, this is where the energy is at. This, you know, this is, you know, the Maga America first movement. And it, it's great stuff. So I'm just happy to be here and it's been great to chill with you guys too.

[A]

Right on.

[E]

Cheers, man.

[D]

Follow me at, @realtatebrown on X and Instagram. I'll be at NATCON tomorrow as well. We'll be throwing some interviews up on Tim Cast News. Make sure you follow Tim Cast News and if you're there, come say hi.

[E]

I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can check us out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

[A]

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