US Deploys 3,000 More Marines, 82nd Airborne Deploy To IRAN, WE ARE GOING IN w/ Caroline Wren

Summary

Timcast IRL Podcast Summary – “US Deploys 3,000 More Marines, 82nd Airborne Deploy To IRAN, WE ARE GOING IN w/ Caroline Wren”

Date: March 25, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Guests/Regulars: Caroline Wren, Elad Yoran, Lachlan Markay, Carter Banks

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on escalating U.S. military involvement in Iran, focusing on the recent deployment of 3,000 additional Marines and the 82nd Airborne Division, speculation about potential occupation of Kharg Island, and broader commentary on U.S. foreign policy, recruitment changes, and political fallout. The Timcast panel dives into the implications for American politics, public opinion, and the conservative movement, discussing potential consequences for the 2026 midterms and the cultural zeitgeist shaping the national mood.

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Key Discussion Points

1. US Troop Deployment & Escalation in Iran

• Pentagon Decision: The U.S. is sending another 3,000 troops, including elements of the 82nd Airborne, to the Middle East.
  • Purpose: Speculation over occupying Kharg Island, a crucial Iranian oil hub.
  • Context: Ongoing U.S. airstrikes (since Feb. 28), destruction of 9,000 targets, deaths of Iranian leadership, and 50,000 US troops already positioned.
  • Gas Prices: Iranian blockage of the Strait of Hormuz driving global economic concerns.
  • Contradictory Messaging: Trump administration claims of “peace negotiations” versus visible military escalation.

“The speculation being this will be for the occupation of Kharg island, the key oil distribution hub for Iran.” — Tim Pool [02:51]

2. Trump’s Iran Policy: De-escalation or Full-scale War?

• Panel Division:

  • Lachlan Markay: Initially hopeful for minimal casualties, but sees clear escalation and no viable off-ramp; argues U.S. can't leave current regime intact due to nuclear threat.

    “We're ramping things up. The president could not leave this regime in power moving forward.” [11:47]

  • Caroline Wren: Cautiously critical of intervention, skeptical of any claimed off-ramp, warns of “forever war” syndrome, references Iraq/Afghanistan as historical precedents.

    “Now they're telling us two days, then two weeks, then two months, then it's two years, and then it's 20 years.” [13:05]

  • Elad Yoran: Points to the miscalculation of assuming the Iranian regime operates on rational economic grounds, highlighting ideological fanaticism and the risks of quagmire.

    “Iran for victory for them is just surviving.” [15:19]

• Polling & Political Fallout:

  • Republicans solidly behind Trump, but independents unconvinced, and disapproval climbing.
  • Concern that “middle ground” voters (especially men) are not buying the usual narratives; potential for large losses in the midterms.

3. US Military Recruitment Crisis & Policy Shifts

• Raised Enlistment Age & Drug Waivers:
  • Age raised to 42; waivers for marijuana convictions now allowed for both military enlistment and defense contractors (critical for shipbuilding/port construction).
  • Seen as signs of strain: U.S. is working to broaden recruitment pool in anticipation of potential escalation/long war.

“They’re really trying to get a lot of people in right now.” — Tim Pool [21:11]

• Draft Anxiety Among Immigrants:
  • Data shows immigrant communities worried about being drafted, especially after policy automating selective service for non-citizens.
  • Panel lampoons the idea of deploying illegal immigrants for potential combat, referencing historical “pathway to citizenship” proposals.

4. Cultural and Political Impacts: Demoralization, Recruitment & Public Support

• Masculinity, War & Societal Change:

  • Jokes about national service and draft; discussion about whether the modern American public, especially men, are prepared (in culture/fitness).

    “I think there should be a draft. I think there should be national service. I think that's one of the things we should actually copy from Israel.” — Lachlan Markay [23:49]

• Public Opinion:

  • Noted decrease in young male interest in politics; conservative (and broader) disillusionment with elite decision-making and voting process.

    “I think the Iran war was a massive kick in the balls to a lot of guys.” — Tim Pool [74:15]

• War’s Unintended Side Effects:

  • Gas price fears (“the one thing that could turn a hawk into a dove”), possibility of food/fertilizer shortages.

    “It will decimate our food supply. Not only in the United States… but at allies across the region...” — Caroline Wren [55:02]

5. Domestic Politics – 2026 Midterms, Trump’s Approval, and The ‘Save Act’

• Polls & Electoral Prospects:

  • Trump’s approval down to 41%. Democrats securing unexpected wins (e.g., Palm Beach special election), signaling Republican trouble ahead.

    “I believe that the conservatives who are telling Republicans Trump is enjoying 100% support… the proof’s in the pudding. A Democrat just won first state House. Mar-a-Lago, like Palm Beach, that's where Trump won that by 11 or 14 points.” — Tim Pool [66:14]

• Save Act:

  • Republican infighting and procedural gridlock. Panel rails on the filibuster, Senate inertia, and how leadership is using procedural hurdles to maintain corporate/lobbying power, at the expense of popular policy.

    “A 60 vote threshold is not in the Constitution. So that was a rule making decision… But it is like nowhere in the Constitution it says you have need 51 votes.” — Carolyn Wren [70:39]

• Voter Apathy/Demographics:

  • Boomers’ political dominance waning; Millennials and Gen Z poised to reshape issues like support for Israel.

    “Cable TV’s done, it’s cooked… Millennials are going to dominate politics in this country as the largest voting bloc. With boomers out, Israel's got no support.” — Tim Pool [89:14]

6. Conspiracies and Refineries: Sabotage or Coincidence?

• Texas Oil Refinery Explosion:
  • Suspicious Saudi X account posted warning/prediction about the explosion in Port Arthur an hour before it occurred; possible implications of cyberwarfare or foreknowledge.

    “This can't be a coincidence, right? Apparently it can be.” — Tim Pool [47:03]

  • Potential economic fallout discussed, panel skeptical but suspicious.

7. Viral Cultural Discourse: Gender, Dating, and Social Media Incentives

• Controversial Tweet on ‘Promiscuous’ Wives & Christian Redemption:

  • Viral post from Christian influencer about marrying a “promiscuous” woman triggers panel debate on modern dating, gender double standards, Christian redemption, male scarcity mindset, and the culture war.
    • Elad Yoran: Argues the story demoralizes men who feel “the hoes always win”.

      “There's no justice. Like, these women will be fine. They will have kids, they will have a husband, and there's nothing you can do about it. And that's what infuriates young men so much.” [97:01]

• Media Incentives & the ‘Erica Kirk’ Phenomenon:

  • Discussion on how algorithms and high ad RPMs (revenue per mille) on content involving female conservative personalities are reshaping media, incentivizing creators to shift focus from substantive politics to culture war/gossip for more female viewership.

    “For some reason right now, RPMs on Erica Kirk content have… passed finance… So who the is advertising intentionally on Google Ads targeting Erica Kirk content? That's the weirdest thing…” — Tim Pool [120:14]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the Potential for Escalation:

  • “We're escalating… The president could not leave this regime in power moving forward.” — Lachlan Markay [11:47]
  • “Now they're telling us two days, then two weeks… then it's 20 years.” — Caroline Wren [13:05]

• On the Military Draft & Service:

  • “I think there should be a draft. I think there should be national service… I think it would help with… assimilation process.” — Lachlan Markay [23:49]

• On Political Disillusionment:

  • “This is why you've got a lot of people… checked out. They're just, they're over it. I think the Iran war was a massive kick in the balls to a lot of guys.” — Tim Pool [74:15]

• On Republican Electoral Challenges:

  • “A Democrat just won first state House. Mar a Lago… Republicans are getting cooked.” — Tim Pool [66:14]

• On Cultural Change & Demographic Shifts:

  • “With boomers out, Israel's got no support. Cable TV's done, it's cooked.” — Tim Pool [89:14]

• On Social Media Incentives:

  • “For some reason right now, RPMs on Erica Kirk content have passed finance… who is advertising intentionally… that's the weirdest thing to me, but it's happening.” — Tim Pool [120:14]

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Additional Timestamps for Key Segments

• [07:18] Intro & Guest Background — Meet Caroline Wren; her establishment-to-America First journey
• [10:40] Macro analysis: Is the Iran conflict just escalation or chess for peace?
• [21:11] Military recruitment strategic shifts—age, marijuana, and desperation
• [29:04] Societal consequences: Drug policy, social proposals for military service, comedic “solutions”
• [47:03] Texas refinery explosion: coincidence, conspiracy, or cyberattack?
• [55:02] Economic risks: Gas, fertilizer, food security
• [66:14] Palm Beach flips blue: Political earthquake in Republican stronghold
• [74:15] Disillusionment and male disengagement from politics
• [92:36] Viral “Promiscuous Wife” tweet and the culture war on dating norms
• [120:14] Social media, monetization, and the “Erica Kirk effect”
• [134:04] Closing remarks, guest plugs

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The tone throughout the episode is a combination of irreverent humor, skeptical analysis, and anxiety about political and cultural drift. The panel combines sharp analysis on military and political developments with biting asides about the state of the conservative movement, America’s shifting demographics, and the dysfunction in both foreign and domestic policy decision-making.

A palpable sense of demoralization—especially among young conservative men—is a recurring theme, with war fatigue, declining enthusiasm, and the spectacle of “culture war” grift all called out. The show’s independent, often contrarian voice is maintained, eschewing blind partisanship in favor of candor, skepticism, and dark comedy.

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For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode provides a sweeping, energetic, and at times bleak snapshot of America at the precipice of a new war, a shifting political landscape, and a culture in flux.

Transcript

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to 42 and they don't Care if you've been convicted of marijuana or light drug possession. So the 42 year old thing is obvious. They want older people to be able to join the military. I wonder why they're also giving out steak and lobster to our troops. And the best part is the marijuana thing because I'm like, okay, now they're basically saying we need to open up the pool a little bit wider. Now it's targeting Gen Z. But here's the interesting thing. The real concern over the draft. Immigrants are worried. Not a joke. This is the report. Young people are kind of like, I'm undraftable. Because they're just like hikikomori, if you know what that means. It means they sit at home and play video games all day and they don't go outside. But immigrants are like, oh. And there's a lot of people saying, you know, it would be funny if Biden brought in 20 million illegal immigrants from Honduras, not for the economy, but to just unload them all in Iran. And then as John Bolton would say, this time next year we'll be eating Plantanos and Balietta in Tehran. Which he never said, but would be absolutely hilarious if Iran just became like New Honduras. But the big news, of course, is, my friends, if you've been following this show, you are not surprised to learn that we are deploying the 82nd Airborne Division, 3,000 more troops to the Middle East. The speculation being this will be for the occupation of Kharg island, the key oil distribution hub for Iran. And we had been talking about this, we had heard rumors in the area about, you know, people who know other people who see them packing up and getting ready to go, rumors of deployment. And it appears that it's actually gonna happen, as many are saying this is increasing the probability that we will see boots on the ground in Iran. That being said, Donald Trump has said he's in peace negotiations with Iran and they gave him a truly, truly wonderful gift related to oil and natural gas. But he's, he's not going to tell you what it is. And that's, that's good. But I gotta be honest, all the while we're being told that things are winding down, but all of the military action we see shows a dramatic escalation. Now there's another big conspiracy theory. I had Talked about this. 2019, an oil refinery exploded at 4am in PA. Several hours later, Donald Trump announced that he was canceling strikes on Iran. At the time, I speculated, could this have been a cyber attack? And Donald Trump pulled back on the attack to avoid an escalation of war between Iran and the United States. I don't know. Interestingly, yesterday, only a few hours after Donald Trump announced postponing the attack in Iran, an oil refinery exploded. Now, that's just some wacky speculation, right? Except a Saudi X account posted only a few hours before the explosion that just across the street there would be an oil refinery explosion, and then deleted it. But it's too late. The Internet is forever. 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Share the show with everyone. You know, it's going to be a big one. Joining us tonight to talk about this, we've got Carolyn Wren.

[Carolyn Wren]

Hello. Thank you for having me.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. Who are you? What do you do?

[Carolyn Wren]

I am born and raised in Austin, Texas. Moved up to D.C. was there for about 15 years working for friends of the show, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, a pack of groups.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, he nodded at APAC until I

[Carolyn Wren]

had a hard pivot when Donald Trump came out of the elevator. And now I'm firmly in the America first camp. And I run a lot of different campaigns, actually, against my old friends within the Republican, more establishment wing of the party.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm sure they're happy now.

[Carolyn Wren]

Well, I think they probably are happy now.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, right on. It's great. It's great to have you. Should be interesting. Of course, a lot is here, but everybody knows we're not doing the introductions the way we used to, because it's just everybody knows who a lot is.

[Lachlan Markay]

A lot of the Yahoo. Tim Cast news White House correspondent. Happy to be here, Tate. What's he.

[Tim Pool]

Brown is here. Of course.

[Elad Yoran]

We got to. We got to bring up the speed. We're not doing intros anymore. We are not.

[Tim Pool]

Not for the regulars.

[Lachlan Markay]

Like, oh, my God.

[Tim Pool]

I never. I've never introed myself ever on this show. I've never said, hi, I'm Tim Pool.

[Elad Yoran]

I've never. Exactly. So if he doesn't, that's.

[Tim Pool]

I think I might have done it one time to be like, should I introduce myself?

[Lachlan Markay]

Were we becoming too formal of a news show with the introductions?

[Tim Pool]

No, it's. Yet it's like, everybody knows who you are. You know what I like? Yeah, the guest needs an intro, but everybody else is like, confidence.

[Lachlan Markay]

And our catchphrases were getting kind of lame.

[Elad Yoran]

Carter's here. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's starting to sound too rehearsed. So they're like, you know, we don't. Like, not. Not just that, but it's like, we get it. We know who Tate is. You know what I mean?

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And like, Ian's gonna say something about graphene.

[Carolyn Wren]

Ha.

[Elad Yoran]

Catchphrase.

[Lachlan Markay]

Did that doc ever drop it? Never.

[Elad Yoran]

You know how gay.

[Lachlan Markay]

I think the graphene documentary.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Didn't it? I think it's graphene route. I think Kevin is editing it. Okay. You see, here's what we're doing. Get into the news, my friends, and talk about what's going on. We got this from Politico. Pentagon prepares to send another 3,000 troops to Middle East. The decision to move the Army's 82nd Airborne Division to the region heightens the possibility U.S. troops will enter Iran. No decisions have been made for troops into the country, according to defense officials who confirmed the planned deployment. But the buildup of troops is a drastic escalation. The 82nd has a quick reaction force that can deploy around the world within 18 hours, but it's not clear if that division will head to the region. The troops increase comes a month into US Military airstrikes against Iranian military forces and infrastructure and amid spiraling gas prices as Iranian officials block access to the Strait of Hormuz, through which about a fifth of the world's oil passes. U.S. central Command, which oversees the effort, said Tuesday that U.S. aircraft and missile attacks have destroyed more than 9,000 military targets inside Iran since the attack started Feb. 28. Military officials have said the strikes targeted Iran's missile launchers. Navy and defense industrial base strikes have also killed dozens of the regime's leadership. The US already has 50,000 troops in the region. The increase suggests potential for more involvement, such as taking control of the strait by force. So it is being speculated heavily that we are going to occupy Cargill Island, a small island in the Gulf where Iran does most of its oil distribution. Trump keeps saying things are getting better. We destroyed them, they're all but defeated. This is the end. We're having peace talks. But everything we're seeing from the military is suggesting an escalation. So I actually want to throw it to a lot first because you're, I mean, you've been like dancing on the table, tap dancing, excited with joy about what's going on. What do you think is happening? Do you think Trump is, is, is nearing peace? Or do you think we are going to go in and just full scale war?

[Lachlan Markay]

So a few things so far, I believe the war is going about as well as it could be, all things considered. Minimal amount of casualties, of course. I think there are like roughly under 20. Of course, every death is of an American service member is extremely unfortunate, but these are the most patriotic among us and we've all but decimated the Iranian army and navy. I think there will be issues, though, if we do reach the point where we do have a land invasion. Obviously that would raise the casualties by a ton and I don't know if the Americans could stomach hundreds of casualties. However, this does seem to be a choke point, Kharg island, where a lot of, a lot of this oil is distributed from Iran. It's sort of the choke point for the economy of the Iranians and holding the island would leave a lot of our American patriots and our American troops at risk from counterattacks more easily. So do you think. I think he wants to leave all his options open. The President.

[Tim Pool]

Do you think we are going to go in? Do you think it is escalating or do you think Trump is winding things down?

[Lachlan Markay]

I think the President wants to leave all of his options open.

[Tim Pool]

And ask you what the President's going to. I'm asking you if you think we are winding things down or do you think we're going. We're escalating, we're escalating.

[Lachlan Markay]

We're ramping things up. The president could not leave this regime in power moving forward. The current ayatollah, his entire family was killed by the President.

[Tim Pool]

I think the current Ayatollah is actually dead too.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah, well, if he's not dead, he'd have a lot of reason to try to over to avenge his father, of course. So I don't think we could moderate this current regime and I think the President knows that. So I think if we leave these guys in power, they'd probably race to the bomb. And I think that's what the President's mindset on this issue is at this point now, we've done way too much damage to not take the regime out.

[Tim Pool]

Is this the most you've ever supported Donald Trump?

[Lachlan Markay]

Like, look, I knew, I knew the President was, was not going to allow this regime to get a nuclear weapon because he's been crystal clear on this issue for decades. I know a lot of people like to project their politics onto the president and pretend that the president is flipping a new script all of a sudden, but he's actually been extremely consistent when it comes to this issue about Iran not being able to get a nuclear weapon. And actually I saw Michael Tracy actually quote this, the President Talking about this 20 some odd years ago, saying how he would take Carg island if it came down to it, if push came to shove. So I don't know, you must be a little bit conflicted. It sounds like you worked for a lot of neocons in the past and now kind of, I don't know it would be too supportive of an act like this. It seems like John McCain's wet dream. Maybe you would know a little bit more about that than I would.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah, I'm conflicted on, especially since I spent so much time working for, I feel like that wing of the party and then I left it and like a kind of public breakup. I did a lot of interviews about it. And now I feel like I'm right back in it. And I am very nervous about this. Well, why? You know, I didn't want any more, you know, foreign intervention. I still don't fully understand what the purpose is of why we are there. Also, Iran is an extraordinarily complicated country. It's 90 million people. You have 90 different religious factions. And also, they don't care about human life. So when you say that, like, if we take Carg island, and yes, it'll hurt their economy, but, like, the Iranian regime doesn't give a shit about their economy. Like, they don't, they can let their people starve, and all they have to do to win the war is just outlast us. And so we've seen this before when Donald Rumsfeld went on TV and told us that we were gonna be going to Iraq for two days, and then it was two weeks, and then it was two months. And Rumsfeld went out there and it's the exact same thing. Now they're telling us two days, then two weeks, then two months, then it's two years, and then it's 20 years. Having said all that, I'm praying and hoping for the best. And I do think President Trump is a wonderful commander in chief and a great leader. And I do think it's preposterous that Netanyahu can just walk in and tell President Trump to go do something, and he would do it. Trump is famous for bringing in a lot of different opinions, letting people duke it out, and then making a decision. So I, you know, if there's, if there is an off ramp at this point, I would love to see it, but I don't see how there is an off ramp. I think that there, now is a good time to buy Raytheon or Palantir stock.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, I think you hit it on the head. I mean, that is kind of. I think it's almost maybe a miscalculation. I don't know if it's a miscalculation. I think it's consistent with the Don Row doctrine, which is, again, when you're negotiating with these countries, you assume they're all self interested, they're all driven by economic, you know, economic gain, these sorts of things. And that's worked very well thus far through both Trump administrations. That's kind of the miscalculation, I think, with Iran. To your point, they're driven by things that are sort of detached from, like, tangible assets. Right. We're talking like, oil, energy, economics, by and large. Like, they're driven by fanaticism. And I think that is the point that these really, like these Iranian hawks are making. That's correct. Is they are driven by fanaticism. That's an argument against getting into a prolonged war with them. Because again, like you said, Iran for victory for them is just surviving.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah, they got nothing but time.

[Tim Pool]

We need to introduce only fans to Iran.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, it's worth. I think it's worthwhile.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe, maybe, maybe then they'll be so distracted and degenerate that they'll just stop caring about anything other than getting money and selling oil.

[Lachlan Markay]

Look, maybe I'm confused, but I think there is a serious threat from the Iranians. I think there's credible evidence that they've had assassin assassination attempts against the President. They chant death to death to America and death to Israel. There's a lot of evidence of them interested in acquiring a nuclear weapon or at least getting on the precipice of it. They do fund proxies and do have the death of American service members on their hands. But I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I'm sure you ask you a lot. Let me ask you a question on the first point that you made. So was Trump wrong after the 12 day war when he said they set him back 10 years on the nuclear program?

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah, he was wrong.

[Tim Pool]

So that was.

[Lachlan Markay]

Look, I'm not here to defend every single thing.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not suggesting you are. I'm just saying, like, the 12 Day War was a failure. And, you know, the expectation was they were gonna go in, stop, and didn't work. And now here we are.

[Lachlan Markay]

I think the 12 Day War was a failure if the goal was to completely decimate their, their nuclear.

[Tim Pool]

They escaped with the material. There's photos of the trucks.

[Lachlan Markay]

But in a certain aspect, the 12 day war set us up for this war because Israel was able to take out most of Iran's air defenses. So it set the situation up such that we could advantageously have this opportunistic war right now. And I mean, I said this at the top of the show, all things considered. I think this is a good use of American power. And fortunately, the casualties have been extremely low. And I hope they continue to be. I think we have a kill death ratio of something like 1 to 100 still. Obviously, all these deaths are too much. But I went to a Pentagon briefing with Secretary Hegseth the other day where he said he went to the dignified transfer for a couple of soldiers that were killed and the families told him to finish the job and not let his Death. And these service members, death be in vain. So just, you know, that's where my mindset's at. I know you guys also like, represent like a wing of the party, an emerging wing. It's hard to say what exactly is going on though, because according to many of these polls, people, Republicans at least, are trusting the president's plan and are letting him cook, it seems. So you guys aren't.

[Tim Pool]

That's true. But he needs independent voters and the Republicans need independent voters if they want to win in November. And this message that keeps going out like, well, Republicans are behind Trump. It's like, congratulations, we always knew that. Democrats have always been opposed. Republicans always support. It's the very thin middle that you need to convince and they are not being convinced. Now, you can call whatever you want. I honestly believe a good portion of these quote unquote podcaster personalities would say whatever the advertiser dollars direct them to. I'm not going to call it anybody, but I'm not talking about Tucker Carlson. I don't know what his deal is or what he believes or why he's doing what he's doing. A lot of people have accusations, but he's got something going on. Like, I mean, and I don't mean negatively. I mean, like, whatever it is he's doing, he's doing. But there are certain personnel that have no business in politics that I guarantee you, if you went to them with like a $10 million deal and said, just, you know, don't be mean to the President, support him, they'd say yes. They'd say, okay in two seconds. Because these guys, these middle guys don't know anything about the region or politics or otherwise. I'm not saying they're right or wrong. I'm saying when someone who doesn't know where Iran is tells me what they think about this war, I question their motivations.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, well, I mean, I'm not tuning into like the Theo Vaughn show for like a nuanced take on geopolitics, but, like, it is worthwhile. Like, I think the useful polling that we would need to see is what did first time Trump voters, what do they think about the war? I think that would give you an

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[Elad Yoran]

the status of the coalition because you know, everyone is declaring that the, you know, 2024 coalition is dead, et cetera, et cetera. And you do see polling like within MAGA does 100% support. It's like, yeah, because that's what like it selects for, it selects for people that are in favor of decisions Trump makes. So again, if you're against the Iran war, then you're probably not considered part of the MAGA polling group anymore. And that's when you would need to go back and look, that initial batch of 2024 Trump voters really determine how popular is this war. And then again it's like I think even President Trump is starting to realize that, you know, this might have been a miscalculation. You're seeing on his Truth social feed, like it's kind of like he's a little upset. Like it's kind of clear. He's saying like we're just going to bomb all their energy fields and then like you'll come back around and say Israel shouldn't have done that, that was a mistake. It's like I think he's starting to realize that we might have under calculated what's going on here.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to the story from Task and Purpose army raises enlistment age to 42. Removes waiver for marijuana possession. Hey, that last one, that's for you, Gen Z. So they want to make sure they can get as many people as possible in. And so I can imagine they're having a meeting, like, what do we do? Well, why don't we allow older people to join? Hey, look, 40 is the new. You know, was it 40 is the new 30. Right. These guys can still fight. And they're like, what about young people? Well, why can't we recruit young people? They smoke too much weed. Let them in. Anyway, so it looks like that when you get a story like this and they're saying they want to increase enlistment and so they're changing the rules instead of offering incentives, it sounds like they're really trying to get a lot of people in right now. And of course there have been concerns, at least I would argue they may be fake. But the left liberal media has been reporting fears of a potential military draft over this conflict. What people need to understand about Iran, ninety plus million people. This is not Afghanistan. If you think it was hard, if you know that it was hard enough for the US to deal with goat herders with AK47s in a desert country, Imagine what it's gonna be like going to a mountainous 90 million person strong country. They can take out military targets, but you do not get regime change with 90 million people without occupying that country by force.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, I mean, this is why I think the Trump administration, I don't actually expect them a lot.

[Tim Pool]

How old are you?

[Elad Yoran]

Ramp it up.

[Lachlan Markay]

I'm 32.

[Tim Pool]

You are well within the age for enlistment.

[Lachlan Markay]

And you're coming with me too, boutique.

[Tim Pool]

Me 40. They won't let me in.

[Lachlan Markay]

You have two more years.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm high net worth. They won't, they won't let me.

[Lachlan Markay]

Oh, so make me high net worth.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean? Elad, you like this?

[Lachlan Markay]

We're going on a quick trip.

[Tim Pool]

Don't you want to go?

[Lachlan Markay]

Are going to eat a lot of gourmet sabzi and I'm just. That's the only Iranian food.

[Tim Pool]

What is that? Is that what they eat? I don't eat.

[Lachlan Markay]

Or me. Sabzi.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but wouldn't, wouldn't you want to go there and contribute to the war effort? Yeah, like if Trump says, like he was like, I want you to go in and help us win.

[Lachlan Markay]

Oh, if the president asked me, I definitely would.

[Tim Pool]

What if you want me? What if he had you to. A gun is like, you're on the front line first in boats landing tomorrow.

[Lachlan Markay]

If I was fully trained for it, then if that's what my fate is.

[Tim Pool]

Look,

[Lachlan Markay]

signed up to be in the army are genuinely the most patriotic among us. I don't think we should, like, treat them as children, too. They know what they're signing up for.

[Tim Pool]

Agreed. I'm asking you. Yeah, I'm saying, like.

[Lachlan Markay]

And I don't have that dog in.

[Tim Pool]

It's not. It's not a joke. Right. I'm not. I'm not being silly. I'm saying, let's say we've. We've stretched our. Our physical force to its limit. And the President says we need any able bodied man who fits his category, whether you're trained or otherwise, will give you basic training, but we need you. Would you say yes?

[Lachlan Markay]

Yes. I think there should be a draft. I think there should be national service. I think that's one of the things we should actually copy from Israel. I think everybody should have skin in the game in our society, and I think it would help with actually our assimilation process. But specifically, ye.

[Tim Pool]

To go on the ground in Iran,

[Lachlan Markay]

to be part of the most powerful military that's ever existed and to know that if anything happened to me, the KD would be 1 to 100. No, there's a price. There's a big price on my head. For every American service member who is hurt in Iran, there is 100 plus Iranians paying the price for that. And these are patriots among us. These are the bravest among us. We should honor them and thank them for allowing us to live this free lifestyle.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just imagining, like, we live on

[Lachlan Markay]

the backs of patriots, of dead patriots. Our freedom exists on the back of brave men who are willing to fight.

[Tim Pool]

That's. Right. For our lives. Imagining, you know, it's like the boat crashes on the shores of Iran and then like, Elad runs out and he looks to his left and there's Lindsey Graham, and Lindsey Graham's like, I can't believe I'm fighting alongside you, Elad. And he was like, what about fighting alongside a friend? And they go like this and then they run in together.

[Elad Yoran]

Well, because that reminds me of Ukraine. We had the Reddit Waffen get deployed and they kept, like, posting, like, just like, with all the metadata in there. And they would get their, like, blown up. Oh, man.

[Lachlan Markay]

I don't want to romanticize war, but isn't there something so romantic about, you know, you and the boys fighting against the ops and like, Tate, if you got hurt, shot in the arm, and I'm holding you in my arms and saying no, and then like, avenging your injury? Yeah, no, no, I don't mean to fetishize that. But it's like there's something.

[Elad Yoran]

So there's just, like, I can alpha about.

[Lachlan Markay]

I don't mean to even use that. That sort of rhetoric. I'm stuck conquering your opponents.

[Elad Yoran]

But there's still like 30 to 40 countries. If my group chat could get together, that we would invade before Iran India comes to mind.

[Lachlan Markay]

Oh, oh, yeah, dude.

[Elad Yoran]

We'd be storming the shores, I hope,

[Tim Pool]

because of the call centers.

[Elad Yoran]

Because of the call centers. Because of the smell. Like, you know, like there's not, you know, like we would be all in a D day would look like a birthday party, quite frankly. I would land it on Goa or something.

[Tim Pool]

I would. I would invade Antarctica just to get over the ice wall to see what's on the other side.

[Elad Yoran]

That seems like a guaranteed failed mission, though.

[Tim Pool]

Nah, man, there's nobody down there.

[Elad Yoran]

Well, I guess the Koreans, they'd see you and be like, he's one of us.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, my God, the Koreans. Oh, that's right. Because people don't know this, but outside the ice wall, just all Koreans. There's like 43 billion Koreans.

[Elad Yoran]

He is home.

[Tim Pool]

You didn't. You didn't know this?

[Carolyn Wren]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So, like, Earth is 43 billion. Oh, yeah. No, like, so Earth is not flat, it's round. Right. But what we know as the world is actually a small portion of the planet surrounded by an ice wall where the 43 billion Koreans keep us in as slaves.

[Elad Yoran]

It's true.

[Tim Pool]

That's the only. The only true conspiracy theory. Does that flip up?

[Elad Yoran]

There won't be a single community note.

[Lachlan Markay]

I think if we zoom out, Elon's

[Tim Pool]

gonna be like, maybe

[Elad Yoran]

can't even do my Elon right now. I gotta lock in for that.

[Tim Pool]

The ice wall.

[Elad Yoran]

I need some, like, weed. And then I can still get.

[Tim Pool]

I would. I would invade Cuba.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, I think that's right there.

[Tim Pool]

But Hassan beat us to it.

[Elad Yoran]

There's no. There's no hard rock cafes or. That makes me mad.

[Tim Pool]

I just love the idea of, like, Hassan eating, like, a really nice meal at a five star restaurant and, like a bunch of starving kids outside, like, shivering. Yeah, well, they would be shivering because it's Cuba. But, you know, remember when I imagine they are anyway and like, they're doing

[Elad Yoran]

the thing where they're like, literally throwing food out. Remember how mad they got at Trump for, like, shooting the toilet paper and. Was it Puerto Rico?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that was hilarious.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah. And that was, like, awesome. And he was still getting.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Throwing like, step backs.

[Elad Yoran]

I was like, whoa. It was like James Harden.

[Tim Pool]

He did a 360 dunk with the toilet paper.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah. Some little kid caught it on Bad Bunny's head. And that's when he's like, I'm gonna become a libtard when I grow up because of this.

[Tim Pool]

That's. That's. That's what. Yeah, that's right. Bad Bunny.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah, that's Laura to come full circle for a second. Back to this story.

[Elad Yoran]

Right.

[Lachlan Markay]

I think this was on the list of, like, three different things to increase military recruitment. And, like, that was way overdue, of course, expanding the age range. But also, like, this waiver for marijuana is very overdue. I think there's a lot of people who could serve despite having minor possession convictions. I think there was also one other thing, and that's the grooming standards, as I understand, like, there's a strict grooming standard in the military, and black people deal with this differently than other people because their beards grow in differently, and it's very curly, and, like, shaving causes

[Tim Pool]

ingrown hairs and stuff like that.

[Lachlan Markay]

Something like that. And it's actually a serious issue where it affects the amount of black people that could be recruited. So these are big changes that could.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I know tons of black people that don't have beards. I don't know. I don't understand this.

[Lachlan Markay]

I couldn't tell you.

[Elad Yoran]

I think they just want beards.

[Carolyn Wren]

Well, I was at.

[Lachlan Markay]

I think they look cool with their beards.

[Carolyn Wren]

I was at a meeting in the Pentagon recently, and this marijuana thing came up because they were actually talking about the context of how Trump has been talking about how he wants more shipmaking in the United States, but, like, to build ships. There's not a labor force here in the United States. And even to build out the ports to have to do it. They were struggling with it and really came up with me, like, the biggest problem was marijuana possession or use, if you like. When you become a contractor for the Department of War, even if it's just to build this facility or to enlist, you have to say that you've never smoked marijuana before. And so that takes out almost all of the workers that you would have to do some construction jobs like this. And so there was really no way to proceed with building these huge new bases and things Trump wants to do without removing that waiver.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah, I don't mean to sound like a pothead, but that seems like an unreasonably high bar to pass for some of these gigs. Damn. Don't smoke weed. Don't. I mean, look, we're legalizing weed. So doesn't it seem like there's some contradictions here?

[Tim Pool]

I think it's more so just we want to get as many people as possible to sign up, and we're going to remove the restrictions. I wouldn't be surprised if, like, look, if we actually did invade Iran and we were in full scale war with 90 million people, I know that's not the entire size of their army or whatever. You know, they'd be like, send in the crackheads. Meth is next.

[Elad Yoran]

That's what I'm saying. If you tell them there's fentanyl in the nuclear reactors, get them, and then drop all the homeless in this war, be wrapped up.

[Tim Pool]

No, what you do is you fly over Iran with all of the addicts, and then you give one, like, you know, you know, carrier with a bunch of crackheads, one with a bunch of meth heads, one with a bunch of heroin addicts. And then what you do is as they're all, like, sitting there, like, freaking out, you walk up to like, you know, they open the hatch or whatever, and then he dangles a bunch of baggies and says, you guys want this? And he chucks it out and they all run full speed and just jump out to go get it.

[Elad Yoran]

There wouldn't be a single copper wire left in Iran after yanking them out.

[Tim Pool]

I think peyote's making a ride on peyote.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah. So that could be an incentive for some folks.

[Tim Pool]

Those people are tripping. Wow.

[Elad Yoran]

There's a lot of. Yeah, we could. We could send a lot of groups over there. It'd be really exciting. The Somalis, they're here. We should use them.

[Tim Pool]

You know, we have pallets. Pallets. We have grant forms for medical hospice and daycare centers. And then we kick it off the back of the plane and be like, there it goes. And they all jump off.

[Elad Yoran]

Oh, man. It's a shame we took out their navy because we could take their ships.

[Tim Pool]

Their navy? Yeah.

[Elad Yoran]

We could have had the Iranian ships if we sent the Somali.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I think about the Somali navy. I'm like, you mean like guys on speedboats?

[Elad Yoran]

With Iran, we sunk all the Iranian boats. We could have just sent the Somalis and we could have captured the boats and then sold them. Or Philip, I don't know. We had some options here.

[Carolyn Wren]

They were putting mines in the strait. I was like, why don't we just capture some of these Iranian ships and just make them go first?

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Carolyn Wren]

You'll find out if the mines there.

[Elad Yoran]

Real good idea.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah. Why are we sticking it because if

[Lachlan Markay]

you get any boats in the strait, then it's too shallow and it will potentially mess up the well.

[Elad Yoran]

That's why we have these car. That's why these cargo in the first place is because the coastline is too shallow and so the cargo is the only place that the tankers can actually get into.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this story. We've got this from W K DZ Radio. New search data shows surge in draft anxiety among immigrants following policy shift. What? That's right. A rise in online searches related to US military drafts is revealing growing anxiety among immigrants and non citizens following recent changes to federal law that automate selective service registration. A new report from Mendoza immigration law found that Google search activity in March of 26 spiked dramatically with some searches increasing by as much as 5,000%. The data suggests a growing concern over how personal information collected the draft registration could be shared across federal agencies if. If Joe Biden brought in 20 million illegal immigrants and the play was to send them all to Iran.

[Elad Yoran]

I ain't even mad patriot, quite frankly.

[Tim Pool]

Like I was saying, as John Bolton would say, by this time next year we'll be eating balera and plantanos in tehran. It's like 5D CHS.

[Elad Yoran]

We need more cannon fodder.

[Lachlan Markay]

I don't even know what that is.

[Elad Yoran]

Brilliant.

[Tim Pool]

It's like the baleida is. I don't know, say it properly. It's a Honduran burrito, I guess like a quesadilla or something. And then platanus. You don't know plantanos.

[Lachlan Markay]

Plantains, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, but we call them plantanos.

[Lachlan Markay]

We don't hear just small. Not in West Virginia we don't actually.

[Tim Pool]

They do. When you go to the restaurant, it says plantanos on the menu.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, can I get the small even of illegals, please? That's.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Lachlan Markay]

Bro, is that a joke?

[Tim Pool]

Is that a joke? Do you have any idea? Tate, that is embarrassing. I am embarrassed for.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, can I get the shriveled up, nasty banana, Fry them inside of butter corn.

[Tim Pool]

They fry them and caramelize them in butter and then give you creme fraiche.

[Elad Yoran]

And imagine if it was a banana. It'd be even better when it said it's like the shriveled up.

[Tim Pool]

No, you're wrong. See, when you caramelize the plantains, they are sweet and delicious, but bananas would melt and break apart. So anyway, the point is, could you imagine if like the Israelis. Israelis finally go into Iran to like finalize the occupation after the country has been conquered and when they get to Iran, it's just basically Honduras. There's like just burrito and taquitos everywhere and everyone's speaking Spanish.

[Carolyn Wren]

Well, you're connected to dots for me because if this was a long game by Biden here, then lifting the marijuana restrictions would make sense for Hunter to be deployed. If this is a Biden family operation

[Elad Yoran]

here, yeah, Hunter goes well, but they

[Tim Pool]

didn't lift the crack. So he's. He's still. Yeah, not yet.

[Lachlan Markay]

We ever find out whose bag that was in the White House?

[Carolyn Wren]

Hunters on the like patio. He's like sniffing around, goes and turns around.

[Elad Yoran]

I was like, that's kind of encouraging. If the White House staff is doing coke, that means they're getting everything done.

[Carolyn Wren]

It was outside the situation room. So why Hunter was in there is a greater question that we have not gotten an answer.

[Tim Pool]

So they've already. There was already a couple legislators a few years ago that were trying to get a bill passed to grant citizenship to illegal immigrants if they serve in the military. I would not be surprised if a big reason that Biden was like bring as many as possible in is because they're going to go to them and say, you go fight for us and when you come back, you're a citizen, knowing that a lot of them ain't coming back, if any at all, would

[Lachlan Markay]

you be open to something like that? An illegal. If they served our country patriotically over, I don't know, let's say the course of four years, then they could have like a pet.

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[Elad Yoran]

They have the. They have the French Foreign Legion. And you aren't actually given a pathway to citizenship unless you get hurt or you did it for like five years.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think it would have to be an extended service, like eight years, not a single four year. And you gotta consider that there's a darkness to this question, because what you're basically saying is most of them aren't coming back. If we said we got 10 million males of fighting age, as everyone was pointing out, and we're gonna just drop you in the country and just take it over. Like, we got narco gangs, you know, why is it that Joe Biden wants so many rapists and murderers and. No, no, no, no, we need to keep them because we're gonna drop them in Iran and let them just do their thing. It's kind of like if you took a cat and threw it into a, like a rabbit pen and just like watched what happened. Yeah, that cat would go nuts, just be mauling any. Everybody in the rabbits be freaking out now, honestly, the rabbits might actually kill the cat, but 10 cats. So the challenge there is some bad people might come back. I get it. But while I would like to say, yes, understanding that what you're saying is, you know, 6 million are probably going to die if we actually, like, this is a country of 90 million people.

[Elad Yoran]

And if you do like a Foreign legion, you also have this problem. The French Foreign Legion had this problem is since they were, you know, they're having activities in Western Africa, a lot of Western Africans would go and join the French Foreign Legion and then come back and start settling scores right away. You just have. It's like, where did Emmanuel go? And he's like, burning down, like a rival tribes village.

[Tim Pool]

Double agent problem.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, we'd probably have like a similar issue with like, these guys just going back to like, the Middle east and just settling.

[Tim Pool]

I got to be honest. I mean, I don't understand why this is like a standard military tactic. I. It seems really obvious.

[Elad Yoran]

Just getting a bunch of like, rapists at the Point.

[Tim Pool]

Well, they're not all rapists. They're just guys from Honduras of low skill and it's just like like 50. We're going to give you a gun.

[Lachlan Markay]

Even our soldiers jobs aren't safe from illegal.

[Elad Yoran]

I know dude. They're H1 being the soldiers.

[Lachlan Markay]

The soldiers now too, bro.

[Elad Yoran]

Americans can't do anything.

[Lachlan Markay]

There are no true.

[Tim Pool]

Hold on, like what, what is the argument against this? Do we send our soldiers to go fight or what? If we could just be like.

[Carolyn Wren]

Argument is entitlements. We can't afford it. So we go serve in the military even four or six years, but we can't even.

[Tim Pool]

I never said anything about. I never said giving them entitlement citizenship though.

[Carolyn Wren]

When you let him come back or you give them citizenship.

[Tim Pool]

The ones who come back paying into

[Carolyn Wren]

Social Security or taxes.

[Tim Pool]

How many are going to make it back? Well, that's the point of the question

[Carolyn Wren]

because then you give them. They go and fight and then you give them. At the end of the war they get a plot of land in Greenland and they get to live there.

[Tim Pool]

You go. Or no, no, we give them Canada.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah. They can run the data centers. One massive data center to be honest.

[Tim Pool]

The data centers should be in colder regions.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah. Iceland is starting to build some too because they've got geothermal which is actually a great source to use energy. Instead of taking it from other things, we're using geothermal and it's cold.

[Tim Pool]

So one of the days energy is lots of. A lot of water to. To cool. So. But, but no, my point is most of the people ain't coming back. Like if you set them on the ground in Iran for a full scale invasion, they're not, they're not coming back.

[Lachlan Markay]

Well, look, I don't. We had roughly 3, 000 casualties in Iraq and.

[Tim Pool]

Or wait, wait, you just go. You go back on your word and leave them there or.

[Lachlan Markay]

No, we give them the plot of land in Iran.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

40 acres, take it over and then they get it. What kind of. They don't have camels.

[Lachlan Markay]

I think they probably do.

[Tim Pool]

Probably do something. Why not? You know.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah.

[Lachlan Markay]

It's like elephants road, I feel like. Yeah. Cross through Central Asia.

[Tim Pool]

40 acres and a camel.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah. On the side of a mountain where

[Tim Pool]

most of Iran is.

[Elad Yoran]

I like it like that. I like it.

[Lachlan Markay]

Do you want your own acre in Iran?

[Tim Pool]

40 and a camel.

[Elad Yoran]

It's not a bad idea. You know.

[Tim Pool]

And then we take over Canada. We get 40 acres and a moose.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yep.

[Lachlan Markay]

Might be nicer in some parts of Iran than.

[Carolyn Wren]

Well there's the big real estate development happening in Gaza too. So if they're a really good fighter, maybe you get, you know, one of those new beach.

[Lachlan Markay]

Oh, I'm buying Gaza. I'm buying all the Mara.

[Tim Pool]

Gaza.

[Lachlan Markay]

All of Gaza I will buy.

[Carolyn Wren]

That's like a purple heart situation. Yeah. If you kill 200 Iranians and you get a place in Gaza or something,

[Elad Yoran]

it'd be like the arcade where, like, everyone. They give you, like, a ticket and then you go to, like, the counter and you can exchange for, like, your plot of land. Or, like, you can get a penthouse in Gaza City. Like 200, you know, kills.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yep.

[Elad Yoran]

Beautiful thing when you really think about it. And everyone. No one speaks English. So, like, they're like the. The friendly fire rates, like, through the roof. These guys are just mowing each other down because no one's speaking the same language. They're talking about plantains. Tim's like, mansplaining plant, plantain, splaining plantain stuff.

[Lachlan Markay]

You caramelize them.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah. I'm like, sorry, what am I, a chef?

[Lachlan Markay]

You turn into sweet treats.

[Elad Yoran]

All I see is gross, shriveled up bananas.

[Carolyn Wren]

That's all Catholic.

[Elad Yoran]

What if you came to kill anyone? You know, I mean, like, you're just.

[Tim Pool]

You're showing your white boy ignorance here.

[Elad Yoran]

Insulting the delicious, being American ness.

[Tim Pool]

Bro, have you never had mangu mango? Oh, my God. You guys are just Hispanic influence. Fried cheese. They fry. This is Caribbean, bro. This is. This is west, south of the border.

[Elad Yoran]

I go to vacation. I go to vacation.

[Tim Pool]

European colonizers, they came in and they massacred the natives, took their food and fried it up. Mangu, you take boiled, mashed plantains, you fry salami, and you fry cheese, and you put it on top with pickled onions.

[Elad Yoran]

This is just illegal immigrant food. I'm not eating this.

[Tim Pool]

No way, dude. It's like the most delicious.

[Lachlan Markay]

Do they make it on the street too?

[Tim Pool]

No, man, they make it restaurants. I was. I went to a. It's like Dominican. I went to. I think it was a Dominican restaurant. And it's my favorite breakfast. When I used to work at Vice, I would always go for breakfast at this. Like, that's right. The three hits. So amazing. And that's what I get for breakfast. Fried cheese, fried salami, boiled and mashed plantains. And I'd be like, extra pickled onions. And this funny thing happened where there's a, like, the Hispanic guy working around the counter. He was like, man, he's like, white people love yellow rice. And there was like a black dude, he was. He was there and he was talking to Hispanic guy, and then he said, don't white people love yellow rice? And then the guy working there was like, yeah, man, they do. And I kid you not, right? This is in Williamsburg. Rad Ray says it. A white dude walks in hipster flannel and glasses and like, you know, slicked back hair. And he walks up and goes, can I just get an order of yellow rice? And then we all started busting out laughing, and he didn't know why. And I was like, damn, that's me.

[Elad Yoran]

That's me. When I go to, like, Mexican restaurants, I'm getting like the chicken fingers, like a burger. Not eating the bendies. Oh, yeah, what is this? It's fried corn with cheese and beans. That's every meal you can order at a Mexican restaurant is some variation of corn beans. And it's like someone chewed it up and vomited. That's what it's like. Every single one. Sometimes they deep fry it. Sometimes they deep fry it. With the Texas.

[Tim Pool]

Have you ever had a chimichanga?

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, it's a deep fried version of beans, cheese, and deep fried burrito, bro.

[Tim Pool]

You stuff that thing with cheese, you deep fry it.

[Elad Yoran]

Heaven.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Elad Yoran]

Heaven forbid I want something, like, made from flour.

[Tim Pool]

Have you ever had it is. What are you talking about? A chimichanga is a flower. No, it's not.

[Elad Yoran]

You can't tell. It's all deep.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, you can.

[Elad Yoran]

What are you talking about?

[Tim Pool]

And it's burritos or flour tortoise. Have you ever had covered in beans, bro? Have you ever had a fried ice cream?

[Elad Yoran]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, my God.

[Elad Yoran]

Why would you fry your ice cream?

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Elad Yoran]

This?

[Carolyn Wren]

We can't.

[Elad Yoran]

This is why we can't let these people in the country.

[Tim Pool]

No way.

[Carolyn Wren]

Dude.

[Tim Pool]

Have you. You've had fried ice cream, right?

[Carolyn Wren]

I don't think I've had fried ice cream.

[Lachlan Markay]

I've had fried ice cream.

[Tim Pool]

I take a ball of ice cream, they dip it in batter, and then deep fry it real quick. It's a deep. And then it's not. The inside's still cold. But they fry the outside real quick. It is the most delicious thing ever.

[Lachlan Markay]

It's a bit too decadent.

[Tim Pool]

And you put chocolate and caramel sauce and whipped cream and a little cherry on top. You know what really pisses me off is these cheapo places. Now what they do is they roll a ball of ice cream in corn flakes. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

[Elad Yoran]

That's just.

[Tim Pool]

That is an offense to my Country.

[Carolyn Wren]

I'm getting married next weekend, and I'm doing congratulations dinner, and I. I'm not a fancy person. And so I'm just getting a taco truck, and I've got all these guys coming. I was like, you know what? Let all the family come in. They're coming to Palm beach for, like, a fancy wedding. No, no, it's backyard taco truck.

[Elad Yoran]

Because correction, with the Mexican food, that is the one exception, as the tacos do have some variation to them. Everything else, and it's numbered. That's a. That's.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you can ask our tortillas and

[Elad Yoran]

not corn, but it doesn't matter. You can't tell because they're slathering it in, like, tomato juice and beans every single time. And cheese.

[Tim Pool]

Fair enough.

[Elad Yoran]

The same, like, four ingredients. But the taco, they switch it up. I respect that. So, that being said, they all need to be deported. But still, like, I respect that, you know?

[Tim Pool]

Well, we can keep their food.

[Elad Yoran]

That's true.

[Tim Pool]

Did you guys. Do you remember that story out of. I think it was Seattle, too. White women opened a taco shop, and the activists demanded they shut it down because it was cultural appropriation.

[Lachlan Markay]

I'm glad. I feel like we passed that sounds familiar. That era, I feel like, is a bygone era now.

[Tim Pool]

It is.

[Lachlan Markay]

I don't know if. And it's a. It's a happier time now because it

[Elad Yoran]

was like white people realize the dreads. Look, we got to.

[Tim Pool]

You know. You know what?

[Elad Yoran]

I'm becoming a fight.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not even playing. This was Mary's idea. We got to open a North Korean barbecue.

[Elad Yoran]

It's brilliant.

[Tim Pool]

Not even joking.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Lachlan Markay]

Do they. Do they don't.

[Carolyn Wren]

Do.

[Lachlan Markay]

They don't eat meat there? They can't afford meat in Korea.

[Elad Yoran]

Yes, some do. They eat. They have cows, bro.

[Tim Pool]

What are you talking about?

[Lachlan Markay]

No, only the richest there. They're now poor to afford. No, you are wrong on a regular basis.

[Tim Pool]

You are. You are. You are incorrect. It is. It is. It is harder to get because they're all starving, but they eat beef. They raise cattle.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah. Like, maybe once a month, The Olympians

[Elad Yoran]

that lose, they eat them.

[Tim Pool]

So I think we actually have to do this. I need to find someone who can open a restaurant. It was Mary's idea. You open a Korean barbecue, but everyone's dressed in, like, North Korean jumpsuits. And then when you order, like, a pound of brisket, they give you a half pound. They go, that's a pound. And then, like, when. When you walk up to it, we're gonna do a trick with the windows where inside looks really nice, but when you walk and it's actually dingy and gross.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or it's actually. I don't want. You don't want it to be gross, but it'll be like plain, like from the outside. We'll do like. Have you ever seen those screens? They're, they're see through with like a mesh. I don't know how they do it, but like at arcade, at arcades they have this thing where it's like, it's glass you can see through, but this a touch screen as well. We'll do that. So from the outside it looks like there's candles and a nice tv. But then you walk in, it's just very plain. It'll be delicious. We'll make it good food. North Korean barbecue. I bet we'd set. We'd be packed every day.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, you'd have a lot of defectors.

[Tim Pool]

We would get. We would get a guy who looks like Kim Jong Un to be like the main dude at the restaurant.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, yeah. You would have like a kitchen staff defect, like the normal Korean restaurant, and they get like hauled back in. No, what we do is extra over time.

[Tim Pool]

Every, every, like, every hour we stage a, an error where like the, like a guy will run up from the, from the back of the kitchen being like, I'm so sorry I messed up your order. I'm so sorry. And then he gets dragged in the back room and you hear screaming. You'd also have to have like anti American propaganda of history stories playing screens, but, like pictures of Trump. He's great because Kim Jong Un likes him.

[Carolyn Wren]

He likes him.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's Rodman, of course, and Dennis Rodman. Yeah, I'm doing this. We got to do it because I love Korean barbecue. It's delicious. So, you know, let's go.

[Elad Yoran]

I like it.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go. Let's jump to this next story. Check this out. This is big news. Yesterday, massive explosion at crude oil refinery rocks Texas city as residents told to shelter in place. You may have seen the story. We don't know the. I think they've gotten only a preliminary.

[Carolyn Wren]

The sheriff came out like immediately after, said it was a fire that caused an explosion in one of the like, engines or something. And then they, they did a press conference this morning that I watched that they.

[Tim Pool]

So shortly before this, Donald Trump announced he was postponing strikes on Iran. Seven years ago, June 21, 2019, Donald Trump came out and said he was stopping. He was calling off an attack on Iran because the casualties would be too great and it was disproportionate to Iran had shot down a US drone. So he's like, no, no, no, we don't want to kill that many people over this. We're not going to do it. However, a few hours before Trump made the announcement, a refinery in PA exploded. At the time, I speculated this could be what's called ICS sabotage or industrial control system sabotage. That is, we know for a fact our adversaries have hacked into our industrial control systems to destroy them. We do the exact same thing. And it's largely viewed in cyber warfare as a mutually assured destruction moment. A Mexican standoff. Every country got their finger over the button that would destroy the critical infrastructure of their. Of their. Of adversary nation adversarial nations. Now here's where it gets interesting. This morning I speculated, saying, look, I really don't know. Probably just a coincidence, right? Except I was unaware of not this post. This post here from @amuse who tweeted a Saudi X account posted a specific threat against the Port Arthur Motiva refinery one hour before the nearby Valero explosion in the same city. He deleted the Post and all 4739 of his previous tweets immediately after. This account is A Saudi X account created in April of 23, connected via Saudi Android app, posted a specific warning that Motiva enterprises in Port Arthur, Texas, the largest U. S. Refinery and up to 720,000 barrels a day, would be destroyed within a week. The post went up about an hour before the Valero refinery explosion rocked the same city. The user then deleted that warning. Now, here's the thing. The Valero facility is across the street. It's literally. It's. They're like next to each other. This can't be a coincidence, right? Apparently it can be.

[Lachlan Markay]

Give it to him. Tate.

[Elad Yoran]

I. I don't know. You know he's Saudi.

[Lachlan Markay]

I can't. I don't believe a thing I read on Twitter. Unfortunately, this is a real tweet.

[Tim Pool]

No, I know I would. No, no, no, no. This guy did tweet this last night

[Carolyn Wren]

before it was all white.

[Tim Pool]

This guy did tweet this?

[Carolyn Wren]

Oh, yeah, he. He. He was highly online too, and he was clearly Saudi. But like I went through, he wiped all of his tweets, but all of his. When he tweeted at someone, you could so read it. So I just put in his. And like he was. I don't know if he's like a terrorist or somebody's just always Talking about foreign policy and stuff. But he absolutely sent that one hour before. Like there, there's no way. I hear or something that tweet was up. Like there's enough screen grabs, was coming from all over the place. And it is, I mean, but this

[Elad Yoran]

could be one of those things like you know, the people that will like tweet the prediction of a sports year before, but they tweet like 100 predictions. So one of them, when it does hit, they delete all the other ones and they're like siege.

[Tim Pool]

Possibly.

[Elad Yoran]

I got that right. And I think he may have been.

[Tim Pool]

You think, you think he just tweeted a bunch of. This is going to be target. Like a bunch of different targets refineries.

[Elad Yoran]

And I could tweet the President will

[Lachlan Markay]

attack Kharg island on this day.

[Elad Yoran]

No, but if you.

[Lachlan Markay]

Every day.

[Carolyn Wren]

I read 200 of his tweets last night and like there weren't many predictions. Right. Because I agree, if there was just a bunch being like he's going to hit, you know, this facility or whatever and you tweet 100 of them and you just. This was I think the fourth, fourth or fifth largest refinery in the United States. 720,000 barrels a day is a ton. Like this will affect oil prices in the United States.

[Elad Yoran]

No, it's real.

[Carolyn Wren]

We don't know how much damage has been done. But if that like facility were to go down or offline and what is already a very delicate oil market, it would be very bad.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it exploded and that is going to cause problems.

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[Tim Pool]

It wasn't the motivo, but it was right across the street from it. And I am, I believe there's a very strong probability that these things are ICS sabotage. This is basic cyber warfare. This is the first level of cyber warfare. It's rudimentary. I've seen demonstrations. It is not hard to do. I think one demonstration I saw at the Black Hat convention in Vegas. Security researchers said only a couple lines of code can blow up any refinery, any industrial chemical plant, water processing. They use the same pumps. And you can do a couple of things. You can set the pressure limit high so that the pressure keeps building up until a pipe bursts. And then what happens? They say a pipe burst.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

That's it.

[Elad Yoran]

And Valero, from what I understand, people could fact check this, but this is from what I understand, they're headquartered in San Antonio. San Antonio is Military City, usa. There's four bases there. Valero is also the primary defense contractor for energy supply for a lot of the Air Force specifically. I did see people speculating that, look, if there were going to be a foreign attack on a refinery of some sort, this would be the number one target. This is like, it would be kind of obvious almost as again, you go for Valero because Valero is a domestic oil producer and they are the defense contractor of choice.

[Carolyn Wren]

Also, this refinery process is heavy crude, which is what Venezuela has, which is kind of interesting because Venezuela and Iran had some deep ties. And so if Iran wanted to retaliate against Venezuela's new, like working with the US Government, then hitting this facility would.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Carolyn Wren]

Make sense.

[Tim Pool]

And it seems largely like the very pro Iran war. Pro Trump factions are the most. I don't. The right word is a combination of skeptical and offended. The response that I've seen are that the most Arnold of Trump supporters are like, this is ridiculous. It never happened. Because the implication is that we are being attacked. And they don't want the narrative to be that Trump gets involved in this war and then the US Is paying the price domestically in any way.

[Lachlan Markay]

The one Thing that could turn a hawk into a dove in this country is high gas prices.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Lachlan Markay]

The one way to drop support very quickly, even among the most hawkish of us, is for gas prices to go up by a dollar. That's really. And they have all it would take. I think it's been like 50, 60 cents so far, the national average. But once we start seeing $4.50, it's like an ad against the President.

[Tim Pool]

Isn't a buck or two worth it for having a clean conscience?

[Lachlan Markay]

You know, it's hard for Americans to see 10%.

[Tim Pool]

I asked you a question. Isn't a buck or two worth it for having a clean conscience? Yeah.

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[Tim Pool]

That's a Colbert quote.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Even Colbert said it is much more

[Carolyn Wren]

than a buck or two, though, because it's going to be a bucket. It's going to go to, I think, $175. If you saw the United CEO put out a press statement yesterday that they're preparing to raise all flights by 20%. So you start to do your flights, and then also oil prices, that evolves. Everything from, you know, you driving to work planes, machinery that you work. But then on top of that is 70% of the world's fertilizer supply comes from there. Fertilizer is food. It will decimate our food supply. Not only, you know, in the United States, we're a little bit more insular to that, but at allies across the region, across the country, the fertilizer is like just as. As you could see a massive famine from this in place like India.

[Lachlan Markay]

I've become less and less concerned with our allies as it becomes more abundantly clear that they are just spineless and not willing to help us when it matters. It seems as though they're more of a burden and drag us into things more than anything else. I think Scott Besant put it most succinctly, though. He said, we're going to have to deal with 50 days of higher prices for 50 years of no Iran nukes. So I think that's. That's the current pitch from the administration. I think there are things that we could do to help curb the issue of high gas prices in the United States that we should look into. These are like gas taxes. I think we should also.

[Carolyn Wren]

Gas taxes.

[Lachlan Markay]

We have gas taxes. We could remove the gas taxes.

[Carolyn Wren]

Okay. I was like, adding taxes.

[Lachlan Markay]

And then also I think we should do a temporary ban on oil exports. I'm sure the gas companies will be pissed about it, but we are a net oil exporter at this point, and it could help, at least domestically.

[Carolyn Wren]

Well, the oil prices are set by a world Illuminati that nobody really understands or elected. So it does. So even if we ban exports in your bit, then it'll still tank. It'll affect the prices of the world.

[Lachlan Markay]

Sure. I mean, our allies and the Europeans can get screwed, but we would because we are a net exporter at this point.

[Elad Yoran]

I thought someone gave it out. I do believe, like banning exports doesn't actually help the gas prices because they're selling at a premium to American.

[Lachlan Markay]

As I understand domestically, it should make them go down, but then the oil, the global market will still go up. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Lachlan Markay]

I saw someone as an exporter, I

[Elad Yoran]

saw an autist game it out on Twitter. He was just saying, like, best case scenario is what Trump is doing, which is you like ease sanctions on Iran.

[Lachlan Markay]

Something you said I wanted to follow up on that grabbed my attention. I know that you used to be part of the, maybe we'll call it more hawkish squad and now the more so called American first squad. What do you make of Trump's actions in Venezuela and how that went about? I know you're also in Florida right now, and as I understand a lot of Floridians are very supportive of that kind of stuff. What'd you make of the president? Stuff in action in Venezuela.

[Carolyn Wren]

So I was pretty heavily involved in that and I, I went down to Venezuela not long ago actually, and, and I was initially against it, mainly because I was against the narrative that we were doing this because of drugs. And I'm like, that doesn't make sense. No drugs come out of Venezuela. The drugs come out of Colombia. Like Venezuela doesn't need to launder drugs. They launder oil, like in gold. And so I just felt like we were being, when we started blowing up boats or I called the canoes, I'm like, I don't really understand what we're doing there. And I think there were two different. Again, this is why I love Trump. He'll bring in different factions to come and debate and then he chooses the course to take. There were factions that wanted a full regime change there, which was to go in, take Maduro and then bring in mcm, who is the opposition party leader. I thought that would be a disaster. And especially because Venezuela is 23 million people. They're in our backyard. They already had a massive migrant crisis that led to them all flowing here. And so if you start a civil war and take out the leader in a regime in Venezuela and then just abandon it. Then you could see real famine, inflation, and then migration. But what Trump ended up doing is he took what the real hawkish South Floridians wanted, which was to topple the Maduro regime, but then by putting Delsey Rodriguez in charge, who was the vice president there, who I've met, she's very smart and stuff. And then basically, he owns her now. Right. She has to do everything. He said he was able to do it where there was no protesting in the streets, no loss of life, really. No. So he kept the regime intact, but we got the objectives we wanted, which was to neutralize what could be a threat there. I mean, they were close to the Iranians and Russians, rather, they were selling all their oil to, like, pennies on the dollar to China. And now we really get to be the ones to export all that and secure that. And there's also a lot of other natural resources that Venezuela has. So I think it was flawlessly executed by President Trump, and I think he took several opinions and meshed that together. And I was a skeptic, but I'm very, very pleased with the outcome.

[Lachlan Markay]

There is some chatter now about something similar being done in Cuba. I know you're a little bit reluctant to support what the President's doing in Iran, but what do you think of a potential regime change or similar to Venezuela move in Cuba? I know you have those, again, those Florida connections. Maybe you could give us a tidbit about why this matters so much in Florida and the influence of that in Washington.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah. So I just reread Marco Rubio's book because I was trying to get inside of his head as we were going through all these Venezuelan negotiations.

[Lachlan Markay]

Son of.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah. He and his father's dying wish was for him to liberate Cuba. I think for Rubio, this is like. And even Venezuela, Venezuela, it was weird. Like, Maduro's security guards were all Cuban. And so the Cuban intelligence, they were directly linked. So I think Rubio's thought was, if you, you know, take down Venezuela and cut off Cuba, that was their only financial resource and lifeline. So for me, I'm just. I'm less interest in Cuba because they have no natural resources. Yes, they have beautiful beaches. It's a cool tourism spot. But, like, Venezuela was strategic, incredibly important country of, like, 23 million people on a coast with a ton of oil and more importantly, have a lot of gas. Cuba, you can build hotels at the end of this. So I'm like, what? But for. For Ruby, I get that it's deeply personal. You could topple the Cuba regime in like eight seconds. I don't, like we went in and captured Maduro, no problem. We took out half the Iranian regime, no problem. We can't find Nancy Gunthery, so that's confusing. But I'm assuming they could find and take out the Cuban leadership. But I think that that is on pause right now because I think it's taking a lot of our, whether or not Secretary Rubio or high level State Department folks, their time away from like Iran is now what everyone actually should be focused on or working. But I think Cuba will fall fairly easily. But it's really just South Freudians. It's about 700,000. I think maybe even, actually, maybe even less than that might be combined with Venezuelans who live in South Florida and this, I mean that's what they really care about. But it's been so long that even gone back, a lot of their families have passed away. A lot of people grew up where their parents came over here they've never been. And so I do think that loudness about liberating Cuba has really died out on a national stage. But you know, Pam Bondi is from Florida and got elected from this crowd. Suzy Wilds, White House Chief of Staff is from Florida. You've got obviously Rubio is from Florida. You got Michael Waltz from Florida. I mean it is a like Floridian

[Lachlan Markay]

cabinet and obviously Mar A Lago also in Florida.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yes. And so this, this was a priority of Secretary Rubio's and I think he'd end up doing a very good job in Venezuela and I, I hope he takes Cuba with a minimal loss of life.

[Tim Pool]

The reporting that Emily Gregory won Florida State House District 87, was that the one where.

[Carolyn Wren]

That's not going to now. Trump, Trump endorsed John Maples. That's a Democrat then, right? That's a big deal. That's a big deal.

[Tim Pool]

So, so this, but this is not a primary. This is the actual state seat.

[Carolyn Wren]

So, so it's a special election and I forget what happened where the state House member went. So that's why these special elections can be in. Some people say they can be indicative of the midterms.

[Tim Pool]

I just, let's, let's pull this up. We got this from Frank Lunt, Mar A Lago in this district. Trump carried it by plus 11 in 2024 and the seat will be going up for, up for grabs in 2026. But vote hub is projecting that the Democrat has won the Florida state House District 87 general election. This goes along with the other story that we have from media. Yikes, yikes, yikes. CNN poll experts stunned by Trump's massive plunge with young men, showing that Trump is down on with men 40 points on the cost of living. A 40 point swing to minus 30 from plus 10 on cost of living. And generally seeing he's minus 7among men. I, I believe that the conservatives who are telling Republicans Trump is with like, like Trump is enjoying 100% support. You know, CNN and that story, the goal of this is to trick conservatives into losing.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

If you are actually trying to win a war and someone came to you and said, my liege, we've won on every front. What are your orders? And he's like, oh, okay, I guess maintain position. And then what's actually happening is everyone's just getting brutalized and slaughtered. The king loses. A week later, they stormed the gates and he's like, but I thought I was winning. We are seeing these prominent personalities all across social media being like, don't listen to these people. Trump is enjoying massive support among Republicans. His support, support for the Iran war. It's at 89%. Indeed. And now Palm beach just went Democrat.

[Carolyn Wren]

Look, this is what they did to Biden. They all propped him around saying, he's great, don't listen to him, and show fake polling. And they lived in this bubble where the rest of us living out in the country were like, yeah, he's gonna lose, like, if you go talk to your neighbor or whatever else. And this is why these polls are so dangerous. And I think it is a form of suppression. And I always say that. I think polls are for strippers and firemen. They're not for predicting elections. And the problem with these is when you go ask the MAGA question, where it was on CNN of like, that question, the way they phrased it was if you were a. Consider yourself a MAGA voter, if that's how you would check the box when they ask you that, which, like a MAGA enthusiast, that that's the wing of the party that you're in, then it was just asking, do you still have Trump's approval? Like, I'm a MAGA voter and do I still approve of Trump? Yeah, like, of course I do. I would walk over glass for that man. But that doesn't mean you can't disagree with certain things. And also I do think, especially for someone like me who works in this field, I'm very vocal when I do disagree on things, because this is what I like about Trump. He listens to a lot of people. So it's just Lindsey Graham on the golf course with him, telling him to bomber on all day. And the rest of us are just clapping, saying, you have 100% support. Then like, what are we all doing here? What, eight years of my life?

[Tim Pool]

For Reuters Ipsos poll shows Trump's approvals at 36%. Now, to be fair, that's a single poll, but I think when you're looking at all of these polls, let's pull up the RCP average and see what the current approval aggregate is for Donald Trump. It's currently sitting at 41.3. Disapprovals at 46.3. It's a minus 15 spread. Now, a lot of these polls I don't trust. I think that's fair for, for most people, what you want to track is the polling trend. Because if you've got, you know, ABC or CBS, what is. They have a minus 20, right? You're going to say, well, they're biased. Fox News is a toy is bad. They're biased. So Fox News says Trump is minus 10. You know, they're, you can assume. Well, they're biased. They're going to skew negative. That's baseline. A month later, that minus 15. If they haven't changed their methodology, Trump went down. And when you see Trump going down across all metrics, Trump is down. And again, I'll stress this, the proof's in the pudding. A Democrat just won first state House. Mar? A Lago, like Palm beach, that's where

[Carolyn Wren]

Trump won that by 11 or 14 points. That's why I voted this morning. Before I got on the. At 7:15am I went to go vote for John Maples because they were hammering.

[Tim Pool]

You said before the show started that Trump endorsed the guy in Florida. And I was like, oh, he's going to win. I'm like, how does Trump lose Palm Beach? Wow. People in Palm beach voted Democrat. That's crazy. Yo, Republicans are getting cooked. This. I don't, I don't. You know, I will be honest. If they pass the SAVE Act, Republicans never lose again.

[Lachlan Markay]

They're definitely not passing the SAVE act.

[Tim Pool]

I agree.

[Lachlan Markay]

0% chance on that one.

[Tim Pool]

So do you guys. Should we start just exercising now and smoking so we can get ready for prison?

[Lachlan Markay]

No, we gotta get tough and in shape and be ready to be shipped off and fight for our great.

[Elad Yoran]

I don't know if it was discussed in the show previously, like while you guys were in Austin, but do you think there's any credibility to the idea that the Republicans don't want to pass the SAVE act because they would just be getting primaried left and right because like a lot of these primary votes are propped up with probably a lot of shady. I think that is a John Cornyn route. That's in Paxton.

[Tim Pool]

That's a fair point, but I view it more likely that Republicans and Democrats share the ethos.

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[Tim Pool]

ready of we here in Congress are smarter than you and we know it. And so they don't want people to vote. Oh I'm just imagining like Thune is sitting with Democrats and he's going oh God, could you imagine if people voted for us? And so not to be, to be fair actually don't like the popular vote for the Senate and it should be through state appointment. But I think the the actual view is we want procedural elections, not popular elections. We want to win by the numbers of the machine, not by the whims of the people. So if they pass the SAVE act, you're going to actually have people making decisions so long as they don't. Don't Democrats get elected by just convincing morons to vote who don't Know what they're talking about.

[Lachlan Markay]

What I hate most about this is that it feels so, just theatrical the whole time. The President knew the SAVE act wasn't going to pass. John Cornyn knew the SAVE act wasn't going to pass. Chuck Schumer knew the SAVE act wasn't going to pass. Everybody knew that the, you needed 60 votes to overcome the filibuster and the Republicans don't have that. They weren't going to flip what 8 some odd Democrats to do that. John Cornyn was never going to get rid of the filibuster. Senators like the filibuster because it makes them more powerful. It makes each individual, individual senator more powerful. Because now if you want to reach that 60 vote threshold, you need to compromise and that allows more people, more senators to stuff more pork in each bill to bring back, bring back home the bacon. So it just, it feels like a dumb waste of time. It feels like some people were let on. This was used as a sort of of pressure release valve for some people who thought we were going to get some form of voter ID id, but it was never going anywhere. And you know, I felt like I was taking crazy pills for a moment because it was like, I don't know, am I missing something here? Do I not understand the money, the legislative process?

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah. So I always, I always. You got to trace the money on these things. First of all, a 60 vote threshold is not in the Constitution. So that was a rule making decision I think in 1913 that then kind of sprout. But it is like nowhere in the Constitution it says you have need 51 votes. So it is ridiculous. We have 60, 60 vote threshold came along with lobbying. Why? Because corporations did not want think of your big pharma company and Elizabeth Warren or someone just goes and gets to drop a bill that says that like we need to lower insulin prices. And you only need 51 votes. And all of a sudden these senators actually really do have to be on record on a vote like that. When you do the 60 vote threshold and there's never, you know, no one's ever had more than I think 56 or 57 of one party, then you can always blame the other side or whoever else and claim this bipartisanship. But really it's a of matter massive corporate lobby trying to keep this filibuster to exist because these senators would not be able to survive in their jobs if they were actually taking votes that we the people wanted them to take on things such as an 80, 20 issue like voter ID. So then it goes to the Democrats said, we will lift the filibuster. This was to pass HR1. That was Nancy Pelosi's big. Their election bill. Basically the same thing that now they're saying you can't federalize elections. It's like, okay, all of you went on record saying you would nuke the filibuster to pass your HR1, which was federalizing elections in the way you want. Two senators didn't. And that was Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. They are no longer senators because of that one vote alone. Democrats only had 52 seats, so they couldn't get it passed to nuke. You have to actually vote and get 51 to nuke the filibuster. And in fact, Sinema couldn't even go to, like, a wedding in Arizona. She would be booed out of it. The Democrat base was so pissed. So the Democrat parties made their decision. When they take power, the filibuster's gone. Now we Republicans are in power and we have all three branches of government and we can't get Trump's agendas passed. And I think, insane that we're holding onto the. This like this. This filibuster rule that is not even in the Constitution. And this is an incredibly important vote for them to take. And at minimum, I think we should take a vote on the filibuster because they won't tell us which senators are against it.

[Lachlan Markay]

You are certain that the Democrats will?

[Carolyn Wren]

Every single one of them. Oh, my God. Yeah, they.

[Lachlan Markay]

All it would take is two or three, depending on how big of a majority they have to. To not.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Lachlan Markay]

Because they would need the 51 votes.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah, you just need 51 votes to nuke it.

[Lachlan Markay]

So assume that would. I don't know if they'd be able to get all of them. I think John Fetterman said he wouldn't nuke the filibuster. And I'm sure there's at least.

[Carolyn Wren]

Well, this would be. If the Democrats take power and get enough seats and stuff. So if they were in power right now, they would. Schumer has already come out. And then, in fact, when Schumer. They were criticizing this talking filibuster. The talking filibuster is different from nuking the filibusters. The talking filibuster is basically, you just talk exhaustively until that party, the other party, goes home or has to leave, and then they don't have a quorum until you can talk technically pass it with 51. This was Mike Lee's idea. And they all, everyone's like, we've never. John Thune came out and said, I've never even heard of this. Well, I found a video from two years ago of Chuck Schumer calling to use the talking Filibuster to pass HR1 when it was right after cinema and Manchin had voted against nuking the filibuster. So Michael Lee's idea was not wrong. He was right to push for this. And it's not nuking the filibuster like using the talking filibusters better. But I think that these Republicans, they, I don't know, they don't wanna do anything. And it's not that they're against voter ID or some of these senators, but they are so obsessed with the institution itself. But now they're lying to us today and came out and said, we can pass it through reconciliation. No, you can't. The Senate parliamentary will never allow it. You couldn't even get illegals who are on Medicaid. We tried to get the Senate parliamentarian to, we tried to ban that in the big beautiful bill and the Senate parliamentarian stripped it out. And the idea that you're gonna get any part of the Save America pass through reconciliation is a joke. But they just want a fundraise on Hannity and tell us that it's going to happen.

[Tim Pool]

I think this is largely why young men especially are sour on Trump. And I think just dudes in general are checked out. I think the polling data shows exactly what a lot of people are suggesting right now in the space. I'm going to, I'm going to go there. I know that guys don't like to hear it, but this is why you've got a lot of people. Kirk posting, Erica Kirk content is massive female viewership and guys have checked out. They're just, they're over it. I think the Iran war was a massive kick in the balls to a lot of guys. And I think this, I feel like we got a one, two punch of mass demoralization right at this exact same moment. And that is the Save act failure as well as the Iran war told a lot of guys you've been wasting your time with this. And so they're probably like, guys, let's go, let's go watch football ball. What's the point? We, we, we struggled, we screamed and we clawed for, for years and we're back at square one. It's almost like you ever play video game and then it's like you forget to save and you fight a boss and lose. And then you realize you didn't save and now you got to go start from the beginning and you're like, oh my God. And you just throw the control down. I'm not playing anymore. That's what it feels like for a lot of people. And then so at the same time, there are in the metrics, a lot of behind the scenes, I'll tell you guys, secret it. A lot of people are pointing out, like, we're friends with some of these people who have been, you know, talking about Erica Kirk quite a bit, though we disagree with it. Their viewership is skewed almost entirely female. The moment you start talking about Erica Kirk and it makes a lot of Money, your, your RPMs Triple, your female viewership skyrockets. Male viewership is massively crashing. And that's, that's what everybody's pointing out

[Elad Yoran]

right now because they were like, look at her, the type of dress she's wearing in the makeup, her pants. And I'm just like, she looks like completely the same as, like how I always see her. But for women, it's like big differences on that.

[Tim Pool]

Even Joe Rogan had a viral clip where he was talking about Erica Kirk. Because everybody in this tree knows this. And what I will say to everybody is that behind the scenes, these conversations, like I like an hour long phone call with someone in the industry that you guys all know who it is. I'm not gonna say who it is. Talking about how viewership is collapsing right now. Everybody's experiencing it. And the one thing I often hear is like, obviously for those that are watching on Timcast, IRL, between Rumble and YouTube, we have, I think 32, 32, 33,000 concurrent viewers. And we were hitting like 45, 50K two months ago. Now we're down to like 33K. It's not bad. It's better than where we were comparably to the previous election cycle. We have seen some growth, but it is seriously down. And everybody is having conversations wondering what's going on, why it's happening. And I think it's fair to say that men have checked out. That's it. Women don't care about this stuff and never did. That's why our audience has always been 80% guys and 20% female. And now you can see with the approval ratings of Trump among men dropping, they're not interested in this. But the people who are hanging on are Trump supporters. So they're saying no, what's the problem? They stand with Trump.

[Carolyn Wren]

Trump.

[Tim Pool]

Then of course, you've got the Libertarians they were never going anywhere. They were always going to be in politics complaining about something. Right. But the regular people that got on board when politics became pop culture, I think are checking out.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so I'll give you an example for my morning show viewerships. Pretty dang good. Like it's fairly stable. But I do like I did a video about the woman getting a car accident. It's general interest. And then the videos that do the best are UFOs, aliens, space weather, like totally non political stuff. I think dudes have checked out of politics right now and it's going to be apocalyptic in November for the Republicans. I think it's going to be worse than people realize if this trend continues. We're not looking at Democrats just taking the House, we're looking at a super majority. We're looking at like a 30 suites, 30 seat swing or something. Absolutely insane with these numbers.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, you're kind of just seeing, you know, it retracts back to the politicos where it's just the people that are interested in politics are the ones tuning into political content. I mean, to Tim's point, like, you know, I'll do uploads occasionally on his channel and by far my best performing video is one of Homath.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So you talk about women being hoes and it's like guys are like, tell me about it.

[Elad Yoran]

And I like, I put out these different. And it's fine, like I'm not, it's whatever. But I put out these videos and I bring all these different experts or whatever on like politically focused content. They get like 10,000 views. When I have like congressmen on it, like it gets like 10,000 views. But then you start talking about like stuff that men are really at the top of their mind dating. That's why we'll get into it later, I suppose is the discourse right now

[Tim Pool]

against, yeah, we'll jump on this thing. But this is, this is the point is that guys got heavily involved in politics, Politics became pop culture. And I think now, I'll tell you, my honest feelings was like with the Iran war kicking off, I was like, so Trump was wrong about the 12 Day War. We did not disable their capabilities. Now we're going back into war. And it just, it feels like a one, two punch of demoralization. You've got the SAVE act failing despite it being extremely popular. And I think people are completely demoralized. Like it was fake the whole time. Trump's giving us war. We didn't want that. And I know the Trump supporters are saying they're for it. But it's fascinating to see Trump supporters all of a sudden being like, a lot's right about everything, bro. Come on. Like three months ago they were like, we don't like a lot. He's wrong about everything. Now they're all agreeing with him. Hey, I got no problem if you're going to stand behind Trump the whole time. I think Trump still is, is the best president of my lifetime. I think we've had a bunch of miserable presidents and way better. But my point is for young men, they're like, oh, Trump's doing the exact same thing. What was the point? Oh, the save act isn't getting passed. What was the point? Why were we spending time doing this, bro? I'm going to go order a pizza and go kick back and fish or something.

[Lachlan Markay]

You know, I think we're also coming off of a high of like the pre Trump era or like the early Trump era where all of the left was freaking out about everything that the President would do. There was a ton of these women marches and antifa and then there was the George Floyd riots and like media was really hitting a high then and the left was going crazy and there was transgenders everywhere and everybody was non binary or gay or there was every new knew what form of gay, of lgbtqia, everything. And a lot of that stuff seemed to be dwindling down.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Lachlan Markay]

And like it was a lot. There were a lot more. There's a lot more, much click. More clickbaity stuff. I remember five or six years ago there were like, like these transgender protests every day, antifa every year, constantly railing against the President and it was like, it was crazy. And then they would even riot against the President, especially in the first time. And things were so crazy and now

[Tim Pool]

where are they now? Chill. They're losing. Here's the other thing. Maybe, you know, not to be so pessimistic. Pessimistic. Maybe we won. I mean, let me finish the point. The progressives in, the progressives in Illinois all lost. Every single progressive was crushed. And that whole woke era is dead. And so guys are not being as motivated. I think maybe and they've canceled Starfleet Academy. Maybe they're getting the message that we should just let guys play video games.

[Elad Yoran]

Well, I think the left just like realized how disastrous the Resist Lib era, how bad optics that was because you think about all the characters to a lot of points. They're freaking out all the time. Trump too. They're actually. Things are happening that they were saying cause nothing happened in the first term, but the things that they were saying were happening in the first term are actually happening now. Like, there's ice goon squads, and they're, like, not really freaking out. I mean, Moeller just died. Do you remember, like, the first term? Like, Moeller was, like, this superstar, and they were glazing him like crazy, and they had, like, you know, effigies and these candles form and everything, and then he died, and they just kind of, like, quietly were like, like, okay. Because they're almost embarrassed by how crazy that period.

[Lachlan Markay]

I remember Trump supporters being assaulted in the streets regularly. If you wore a MAGA hat, you were Persona non grata. You were liable to be assaulted. And people would justify it on the Internet. They would say, like, yeah, we're just punching a Nazi. And if you're wearing a MAGA hat, then you're a Nazi. Culture has shifted completely away.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, they burn cars over, like, Ben Shapiro.

[Lachlan Markay]

Like, they used to riot over a Ben Shapiro.

[Tim Pool]

I know they now sell MAGA hats.

[Carolyn Wren]

Like.

[Tim Pool]

Like in the airport.

[Lachlan Markay]

If you, like, arrive at Mega's main

[Tim Pool]

streets, there's, like, little kiosks.

[Carolyn Wren]

I've been to, I think, like, 137, Trump rallies the OG ones. In the beginning, in, like, 2016 primary days, there used to be just people busting, like, fist fights, and Trump would get into it and, like, start screaming, get a.

[Tim Pool]

Get them.

[Carolyn Wren]

And, like. Like, if you went to a Trump rally, it was, like, dangerous. Like, you were, like, going to something. Nobody knew what was going to happen. There was, like, brawls breaking out. Trump's, like, throwing. There's, like, two cops and sec Tailgate. Yeah, it was just absolute, like, ma madness. But I like. I'm like, this is so different from, like, then I'm, like, standing at a Jeb Bush rally. I'm like, what do I. What is this? Yeah, but that, to me, that part is, like, kind of one. It's just everything is so formal now when you're President Xu has long. And he's also had multiple assassination trips. But I just find in January, the White House was saying, all right, we're gonna spend. Send the President out, and we're gonna focus on a, like, affordability tour. And now we're in March, and I'm like, okay, but. Well, I think I saw him go to Memphis and, like, one other place, and we've invaded Iran. But, like, where can we go back to?

[Lachlan Markay]

I think he gave up on the midterm. I think he gave up on the midterms. He said, I mean, there's we're already, I think going to not be.

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[Lachlan Markay]

Republicans are losing the majority. I believe there's a Republican who's going to die in the next couple who has a terminal illness in the House.

[Carolyn Wren]

Neil. Done.

[Lachlan Markay]

And then depending on how you count Thomas Massie, there's about to be a true 5050 split. The party in power almost always loses in the midterm. So the President might just be thinking, eff it. If I'm already going to lose, I'm just going to do whatever I want. And then again, second term presidents have a history of being more unrestrained, especially when it comes to the and he's

[Elad Yoran]

got like Mark Levin in his ear who's like, there's like a literal like Nazi group in Iran and if you take them out, you can like be in the history books forever and Trump's gonna like respond to that. And also to be fair to like the people that are slamming Trump for like being friendly to Mark Levin, keep in mind that these guys are like constantly supporting the President and encouraging him and like putting out these like really pleasant posts about Donald Trump. And then all the guys that they're like mad that Trump won't listen to are like constantly like ankle biting and like being nasty to him. It's like, well, why would Trump listen to these guys who are like undercutting him? Even if they're like more based, Trump's gonna respond to the guys that are like glazing him all the time. That's just human nature.

[Lachlan Markay]

Look, I also think there's, and he's 80 something to be said about people in power and understanding how to wield power instead of again, being like ankle biters. So like, again, people love to trash Lindsey Graham. There's a reason why he's a, what, three, four time senator in South Carolina and not going anywhere. Please dare to primary Lindsey Graham and see how far that gets you. He's extremely popular in his state. He's not going anywhere. He has a power base. He has constituents. And this allows him to be effective and effectively pitched to.

[Elad Yoran]

He's a caddy gay guy. Good luck taking that guy.

[Tim Pool]

It's going to be, it's going to be interesting if, if the progressive Democrats lose and the Republicans lose and we get corporate Dems taking over, I wonder how that's going to change the culture in this country. Because, I mean, the polls are not good for Trump. But the corporate Dems have not been in control of their party for some time. The progressives have been. That's why we were saying they're protesting in the street every day. What is that gonna look like? Right?

[Lachlan Markay]

Abby Spanberger everywhere, guns banned, running the country.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah, that's what it looks like. But, but I, I'm not convinced that. I think maybe they're just being careful and they're actually allowing primaries, which is nice. You forget, they just anointed people. They didn't allow any conversations in the Democratic Party then. No primaries ever. They're actually allowing those to happen. But like, I do think like Graham Plantner ends up winning in Maine and some of these populist Democrats will win in Illinois. I mean, you did have. Aipac, did not have a good night that night. So you had some progressives win as well. And apac. Also the amount of money they spent compared to even some of those races being quite tight.

[Tim Pool]

You know, we're going to jump to.

[Lachlan Markay]

Was that, was it a Nazi tattoo or am I being a sensitive Jew

[Carolyn Wren]

or a Plantner from Plantner?

[Lachlan Markay]

Are you joking?

[Tim Pool]

It was a Totenkampf.

[Lachlan Markay]

Well, I just want to make sure I'm not being a sensitive Jew about it.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no. It was literally the Totenkopf. And he said it was. And he said, oops, I didn't know what it was. He didn't say it wasn't a Nazi tattoo. He says, yes, it is, but it was an accident.

[Lachlan Markay]

Did he say that? I feel like he said, yes, he did. Did he admit that it was a. Yes, he said, I didn't know what it was.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, he was like, in the military, we get Nazi tattoos. It's what we do.

[Lachlan Markay]

You know, don't insult our patriots.

[Elad Yoran]

We get a Nazi tattoo.

[Carolyn Wren]

But listen, a lot of chat rooms.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, listen, if you hate the Jews, which political party do you choose?

[Lachlan Markay]

You tell me. I guess the Democrats.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean, you guess the Democrats?

[Carolyn Wren]

I don't. I think the whole debates in 2028 are going to be about this and about Israel and support and both parties are going to have it. And so I think, you know, if you have Ruby Iran or even JD Van, I think you're gonna have a, like an MTG and a Tucker and a Thomas Massie and people all on the stage in these primaries. And this is gonna defining question. I agree. I think on the left too, you saw even like the Pennsylvania governor distance himself from aipac like it is.

[Tim Pool]

So they cannot like Israel. Israel support in this country is over. You know, a lot. I hate to break it to you, boomers love Israel. Bill Maher said, if I'm with Trump on this issue, you boomers love Israel. But boomers are on the way out. Not trying to be a dick, but it's true. And among the younger generations, you've got, you've got either anti interventionist or outright anti. Is anti Israel and on both sides, the fringes, anti Semites. This is just a fact. At this point, when we're looking at the cancellation of these TV shows, why, it's because their viewership is all 70 years plus. These people will not be voting in any substantive fashion in the next. In 2032, boomers are out.

[Carolyn Wren]

Especially if we eliminate male and booty.

[Tim Pool]

We're looking at boomers now that are split between they're 70 to 80 years old. So in the next six years, we are expected to see what's called the mortality shelf. This is where two thirds of boomers are going to all die because they're all hitting life expectancy on average goes down. That means they will be a minimal voting block. They'll be important, but they'll be much, much smaller than Gen X. Millennial And Gen Z, which each are going to be around. I think Gen X is like 70. Then millennials and Gen Z are 80. Gen Alpha's microscopic, so they're not gonna play a role. Millennials are going to dominate politics in this country as the largest voting bloc. Indeed. With boomers out, Israel's got no support. Cable TV's done, it's cooked. And so I wonder if, and this has been some of the speculation, the reason why we went to war with Iran now is that Israel knows if the war doesn't happen now, the US Will not be involved six years from now.

[Lachlan Markay]

I'm praying for our boomers there. They're our country's biggest patriots.

[Tim Pool]

Actually, the boomers are split. They half voted against, half four. 70 plus was the only age decade that opposed Trump. Every other age bracket supported Trump. So the younger boomers are more pro Trump, the older boomers are anti Trump. And it's going to be interesting how this plays out now that Trump is moving on. But I do believe that when you get to that stage in 2028, no one is going to be staunchly pro Israel. No, no, hold on. I'm not saying there won't be support for Israel. I'm saying you're not going to see that weird, cringe New York mayor stuff where they're like, which country would you go to? And every mayor is like, I go to Israel. And then someone's like, I just stay here and help New Yorkers. Like, it's weird that everybody's saying that for Israel. You. You look at young people and this is what I said when I was that meeting with Netanyahu. I was like, you guys got 10 years if you're lucky. That's it. And then the US is cutting off and Israel's on their own.

[Elad Yoran]

Well, I mean, even Israel themselves, like, Benjamin Netanyahu is like, we should probably just try to decouple, like now. Because it's. And he didn't say it, but I think in his head he's like, it's probably inevitable that the US Will try to decouple. There'll certainly be a push from the ground.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this story. We've got this tweet, massively, massively viral tweet. Trevor sheets. He's got 32 million views because he said, my wife was formerly promiscuous. I was a virgin. She was then radically born again, committed to church, evangelized, constantly Puritan books in her bedroom, prayer journals, grief over past sexual sin. We got to know each other well. For over a year, dated for four months, engaged for two and a half, and didn't sin sexually with one another. Our first kiss with each other was at the altar on our wedding day. Reaction Pick. Attached. We've been married for over five years now, and she's been the most wonderful and godly wife, mother to our three children, and homemaker. You could imagine saying she's been the most wonderful is what he's saying. She's more pure than most virgins. As biblical purity has less to do with past sins and more do with one's current posture, I'm gonna speed through this because you get the point. He says a woman or man's past sexual sin matters, but what matters far more when it comes to deciding who to marry is the first per is if the person is truly born again, if their repentance is real, if they truly have a heart for Christ, if they truly follow Jesus and obey his commands. And then he quotes the Bible. He's got this beautiful picture of his marriage, and of course, it is blowing the F up with 12,000 replies, 7,000 retweets, and 31.5 million views. And, oh, boy, here we go. Tate, what's wrong with this?

[Elad Yoran]

There's a lot wrong with this. I mean, like, let me just clear this, because people just don't understand. Like, it's. I think people are being intentionally obtuse. We're not really critiquing the concept of redemption. Like, yes, and Christianity. I'm speaking as a Christian. When you do, like, admit to your sins, right? Like, you are a new creation in Christ. There's no doubt about that. Like, no one is debating that. What we're having contention with is two things. One is the bizarre public, like, declaration where you just air your dirty laundry on the Internet and then somehow package it as if it's like a testimony and that it's somehow helping somebody. It's really not. And it's actually just having a demoralization. I actually think that's, like, the primary

[Tim Pool]

issue, but I think it's also exacerbating the problem by telling women you can be promiscuous and slutty. But don't worry, just once you're done, just claim that you're born again and you're good.

[Elad Yoran]

Because that's, like, the primary issue, I would say, with the entire thing is it's really just presenting to women the concept that it's more of a bailout than an actual. Like, there's not a proper. There's not proper indication to These women that, like, it's actually a really bad thing to be promiscuous. It's just saying, like, it happened. Oh, well, you know, it's like a. It was like a phase of her life. You know, it's like. Like, some people are emo, some people sleep around.

[Tim Pool]

There's a Simpsons meme for this. We call it Bart Simpson. And he says, a life of sin followed by the deathbed repentance.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, well, that's. And that's. So that's effectively what he's telling. And again, it's like, this isn't a novel testimony. This is probably like, half of marriages where, like, the woman or the man had, like, a really promiscuous background. Because unfortunately, the world that we live in today is like, the concept of, you know, chaste. Like, the concept of saving yourself for marriage is basically laughed at. So it's like, it's really rare this actually happens. So, again, I don't know why he's packaging this. Like, this is some unique testimony that we are desperately needing. It's like, no. Young women understand this. And for young men and young women that are pursuing, like, a Christ like marriage, this is just unbelievably demoralizing and frustrating to see. Cause it's like, yes, we know young women who are women that, like, sleep around get bailed out all the time. We know that. And then, in addition to that, it was just.

[Tim Pool]

No repercussions.

[Elad Yoran]

No repercussions. And then it was insulting where he said, she's more pure than a lot of virgins. I think you might have said most virgins. That's just absurd on the face. Because it's like, one, that has a definition what, like, pure means. And two, it's like, screw you. Like, there's a lot of young women, specifically, that are waiting, that are trying to be obedient, and, like, this woman's stolen valor because, like, what, this guy married or now she's more pure? It's like, no, that's ridiculous.

[Tim Pool]

Here's how Tristan Tate responded. He says, you know when you've never driven a car before, and then you scrape money together for an old shitty vehicle, but you think it's pretty good because you've never driven another car.

[Carolyn Wren]

Car.

[Tim Pool]

I remember that feeling. Mine was a VW Golf, and the engine didn't even fire from one of the cylinders. The salesman told me it had been reworked and was good as new. I didn't know it wasn't. I had no point of reference. Now, this isn't about the Physical driving sensation that was enjoyable enough despite the wear and tear, but the reliability and soul of the vehicle was expended. It went through numerous breakdowns. One day you will think back on this analogy. Nonetheless, I wish you both well.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, yikes.

[Tim Pool]

And that is ice cold.

[Elad Yoran]

But Tristan's getting at. And like, like, you know, I'm trying to approach this from, like, a Christian standpoint, but what he is hitting on is valid. And this is a problem is this, like, scarcity mindset. So it's specifically with young men because the dating market is so bad for young men right now that as soon as they find a woman that will, like, show them love and affection, especially if, like, this guy, I think he's a little older. He's like 30 when he got married, they're just gonna jump in with both feet because they're. The reality is, for a lot of young men right now, especially Christian young men, there is this sense that, like, there's really not that many eligible spouses, and they have a really difficult time finding eligible spouses. So if they finally find someone that at least ticks a few boxes, they just go all in and, like, worship this woman. It's the scarcity mindset, and it's a big problem with the evangelical community.

[Tim Pool]

If you're. If you're a young guy right now and you're seeing this, like, I agree with what you're saying. It's basically like this. This guy is a weak man. I'm not trying to be a dick. And this is the narrative that's been pushed on the Internet for some time by, like, the red pill or, like, men's rights guys. Maybe not men's rights guys. Is that way to describe it, but dating advice that women are going to go for the chads, the alpha chads, and they're going to get used and abused by them because these guys have no reason to settle down because everybody wants them. Then once they're older and hit the quote unquote wall, they'll look for a weak man who says, I'll give you anything you want.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So the young guys are sitting there saying, I just want to have a family. I want to have a job. But the women are saying, I have no reason to do this because the hottest guys want me. And then as soon as I turn 30, I'll just. I'll come back. I'll come crawling back to you, and you'll give a up.

[Elad Yoran]

Well, and that's like the thing. Like, there's this thing where, like, a lot of men Are like, wow, you know, she's like ran through or whatever. She's really going to regret that one day. Or she's waiting to get married. Like, she's really going to regret that when she's older and doesn't have kids. It's like, there is no justice. Actually, these women do end up happily ever after. They will find a guy that again, is just going to bail her out. That's like looking for a wife and he's gotten old enough where he's like, I'll just, you know, marry anyone that will show me affection. There is no justice. Like, these women will be fine. They will have kids, they will have a husband, and there's nothing you can do about it. And that's what infuriates young men so much.

[Lachlan Markay]

Look, I'll take the contrarian take here. If these are two happy, consenting adults, let him go at it. You know, whatever.

[Tim Pool]

No one ever said not to the point. I'm just saying social degradation, sure.

[Lachlan Markay]

I also think there's something to be said about how promiscuous. I don't, I don't know if I'm getting into the nitty gritty here, but people have different definitions of this. But like, like, all things considered, if they're happy about it, like, I'm not.

[Elad Yoran]

Well, I'm not saying they should get like, divorce. I'm just saying, like, let's not prescribe this as like a model to follow. And that's what this guy is trying to do by airing out his wife's dirty laundry. I mean, she's spoken about this testimony publicly, but it's like, dude, stop the way he's portraying this. Again, it's not. I believe her. I believe her at face value that she truly is redeemed and she's not going to fall in that lifestyle. Some guys are trying to like, you know, dig into her lifestyle. I don't really care about that. What I'm saying is stop presenting this like it's a model, because it's not. And the reality is the way that marriage works in 2026. I'm saying this as a Christian. Picking your spouse is not something you can screw up. You gotta get that right. And so it's like you need to interpret it. Interpret whatever data you can to determine you're making the correct calculation for the same reason why you wouldn't have a born again pedophile, like, babysit your children. Because it's like, that's great. You've redeemed your life. And I do believe You, I do believe you're redeemed. But past sin, there's consequences to that. You're not going to be seen the same. It's just unfortunate. But it's like, you cannot remove consequences. It's unfortunate.

[Lachlan Markay]

The only female here. Do you have a thought?

[Andrew Tate]

I don't really.

[Carolyn Wren]

I read it as a super douchey post. And I'm also. What he says my wife was promiscuous. Part of me is like, what does that mean? She, like, made out with other people. Does it. Does it detail? Like, what do we even know what this woman did? Like, it could have been.

[Tim Pool]

I immediately assume she slept with, like, a bunch of people.

[Elad Yoran]

That's what she said.

[Carolyn Wren]

The type of guy that would write this, like, would think it's promiscuous to make out with someone. So that's why I'm like, what do. Do we even know if this woman slept with anyone?

[Elad Yoran]

Like, yeah, that's like these evangelical guys.

[Tim Pool]

Like, she had, like, let's assume.

[Elad Yoran]

Let's assume she came out later and she was like, I couldn't keep track of how many men I was with. That's what she said verbatim. I lost count of how many men I was with.

[Lachlan Markay]

Oh, I didn't know you had the inside scoop here.

[Elad Yoran]

Oh, yeah, I got the T. Yeah, well, because it's all over the timeline. I didn't want to learn. I'm learning. Everything about this couple I'm learning is against my will.

[Lachlan Markay]

Oh, so you have more information than we do for women to sleep with many men or I don't know many men. Well, in our. In our generation, yeah.

[Carolyn Wren]

I do think people are sleeping with more partners because they're getting married later. Right? Like, so that's a. That is another problem. Everyone used to get married at like 18 to 23. And so, like, your number would be much lower. But now when everyone's getting married at 36, so you just inherently have more partners. But. But yeah, I think it's the original HBIC here.

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[Carolyn Wren]

would rather set myself on fire than go to a dinner party with these two people. And I pass that don't really have too many hot takes on it.

[Elad Yoran]

No, that's completely. Yeah. It's just like there's a reason why. Because this is like it just epitomized like what a lot of young men are feeling but specifically young men that are Christian young men that are like specifically in the evangelical young Christian men

[Lachlan Markay]

seeking a virgin woman.

[Elad Yoran]

Well the problem isn't that we're like that every man it's going to be ideal for them. Like let's not pretend like men are actively seeking out high body even a

[Lachlan Markay]

consideration it is 100%.

[Elad Yoran]

Well it's 100% a consideration for a lot of men who are like serious about marriage, who want to make sure they get it right. And then like the message from like evangelical leaders, I'm seeing it all over the timeline is like not only is it like you're wrong for thinking that, it's like they're basically saying you don't have the right right to like desire in Christianity.

[Lachlan Markay]

Nobody's beyond redemption or and I agree

[Elad Yoran]

but it's like again it's just the way things work with how broken the dating scene is. It's like men have to be a little caught and women too. For the record, women should also have the right to want their spouse to like be at least on the same footing as them, the same level of experience. Because this doesn't apply to sexuality. Like it applies to multiple realms education like job. Like you could, it's fair to say you want your spouse like at the same level as You. But for some reason, men, some. For some reason, evangelical leaders are dead set on removing all the consequences of, like, sexual degradation, sexual degeneracy. I don't know why, but they're just so intent on it, trying to get

[Lachlan Markay]

these promiscuous women wed. What I think

[Elad Yoran]

it is, well, I think it's that. But I think, like, evangelicalism in and of itself has a serious undercurrent of feminism. And this is why you see these churches. These churches have like, basically TED talks for sermons, and the worship is like, gay. It's like, literally, you know, it's like just this really whimsical music. Jesus is my boyfriend style music. The great Voddie Bachem coined that. And it's like. It's just pathetic. It really is. Evangelicalism in 2026 is just anti male, fundamentally. And then you're seeing it where all these pastors are coming out and they're like, the real problem here is actually the men. And you're like, what? Like, where did this come from?

[Lachlan Markay]

We need to have an evangelical melon to defend their honor.

[Elad Yoran]

I grew up. I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church. I'm a Presbyterian. Like, by all accounts, every trad cath would call me like a kitschy evangelical. I know, I. This is. This is my people. I know a million people like Trevor Sheets. I know these people at the back of my hand.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe it's testosterone's going down. You know what I mean?

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know what? I do think a big component of testosterone going down has to do with people's skin is nicer as well. You know why nobody goes outside anymore. So there's a really funny, I guess, trope where it's like, you ever notice that in the 90s, people who were like, 30 looked like they were 50. 50. You ever noticed that? Like on Seinfeld, you're like, those people were 29.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

30 years old. Like, I think Elaine was supposed to be like, 28 or something. And they look like they're in their mid to late 30s relative today. It's because we don't go outside as much. This is true. So people went outside to walk places more often. So obesity went up. And a lot of people are like, something happened. There's this meme where they're like, something happened at the end of the 90s where obesity skyrocketed. They changed our food. No, the Internet. Internet people stopped going outside. They started doing more work at computers. You used to have to walk to the store for things. Now you don't now someone else does it for you. There was this, I can't remember who, who told the story. You guys maybe look it up. I think the chat will know where guys like I, I intentionally walk to the store to get envelopes or whatever because it's not going to the store that matters. It's what happens on the way where I see a dog and I pet it and I wave to my neighbors. Not anymore. And so I think one of the reasons why testosterone has been dropping is not necessarily because of microplastics in our balls or whatever. It's because guys don't use their muscles. They're not walking, they're not lifting, they're not doing manual labor. Young, young men used to have to go and lift rocks and do work as kids because like women worked at the soda shop and they, they, they'd bring in your burger on roller skates and guys would, would move boxes and lift and, and break rocks because guys. And then you had like that video of the presidential fitness program where the guys are swinging on the monkey bars and they're doing pull ups that work. Boosted testosterone. It's not just about all the food now. Guys are eating takeout pad thai. Heavily starchy, with only a little bit of protein. They're sitting around watching movies. Their muscles are thin and flabby. They don't build testosterone. And then they go whatever you think here.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, it was the bronze Age pervert tweet where it was like ancient men conquered cities, put them to the source. Meanwhile, you go to wine bar with your girlfriend and enjoy tasteful banner. You are gay.

[Lachlan Markay]

Is that why we're taking a trip to Tehran?

[Elad Yoran]

I think that's why we got to go to Tehran.

[Tim Pool]

That's why I said I love the masculinity. Maybe, maybe the real problem is just all these frail little sissy boys. We just need war for no other reason. Just ward a little bit. No, we just need brutal men who just do brutal things.

[Elad Yoran]

Well, there's some truth also to the fact that the world wars removed the top percentile of test, like men out of the gene pool forever.

[Carolyn Wren]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, because all the weak guys stayed behind.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, all the weak guys stayed behind and also like the most like strong men.

[Tim Pool]

But that's been true forever. That's been true forever.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, But World War II, that's why

[Tim Pool]

there's so many Smiths.

[Elad Yoran]

Yes, but like the world wars were like a really high volume of like herd thinning, so to speak. I mean Russia, every 20 to 30 years has a massive birth rate drop Purely because there's so many men missing from that generation. They call it echoes of the wars, and they're actually going through one right now.

[Lachlan Markay]

Isn't it crazy? Ukraine war still going on. Like, what is everyone forgot about.

[Tim Pool]

Who cares? It's like, over at war. Remember that war that was happening?

[Lachlan Markay]

TV drones that still, like, I still watch those videos all the time. Nobody cares.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Carolyn Wren]

They have, like, 25,000 deaths a month right now.

[Tim Pool]

This world.

[Carolyn Wren]

This is like a serious war.

[Tim Pool]

Nobody cares.

[Carolyn Wren]

And no one talks about. I'm like, we lost seven people. And I. And then it's like, more so far. I'm losing my mind. They're literally like. It's wild. This topic that did remind me, and maybe it's the picture, but I used to work for Turning Point, and I know Charlie from original and helped with fundraising for him. And Charlie and I were flying to New York, and he was that night having his first date with Erica. And he was so nervous. But earlier that day, I won't say who, but I was with Charlie and some guys, they were all making fun of him, saying, Charlie, you're 26 years old and a virgin now. You need to figure this out. I think it was 26 or 27.

[Tim Pool]

So they went to a CIA recruiting farm where they found Erica. He picked her.

[Carolyn Wren]

Yeah. No. So he. They go to New York City. He was asking me about, like, restaurants, and then I don't remember what. He picked someplace. And then the next day, we were flying somewhere in the Midwest, and so he gets on the plane immediately, like, how did it go? And he looks at me and was like, I'm gonna marry her, and was so. And then I got to, like, watch him court her. Just how purposeful he was. It was actually really neat to see. I'd not seen a guy just, like, take a girl out on a date in so long and then do that, and then just actually, like, veto and drink.

[Tim Pool]

Let's. Let's actually hit this one more story. I know we're pushing a little late, but let's. Let's grab this one. It's from Media Betray the Charlie Kirk Show. Utterly disgusted after Joe Kent says he'd testify at alleged assassins trial. Now, Joe Kent has made the claim that he was not allowed to investigate any foreign nexus which may have been involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which, of course, presents a little bit of doubt. I'm not saying it's, you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, but the. The outrage here is that Joe Kent is insinuating there may have been something else involved, and they were blocked, locked. Which will allow the defense for the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin to say this was not a proper investigation. And with this statement already in the public, how can the FBI say that their investigation was thorough and complete and correct? If you have the testimony from a counterterrorism director saying they weren't not allowed to investigate, that's going to create reasonable doubt for the jury. They're going to get this guy found not guilty because at least one the of. Not to mention the amount of jurors that are probably watching a lot of these podcasts in these shows. So this is interesting, but I will just say, you know, I don't. I haven't seen the evidence. You know, we've only seen what's in the public. I think the trial should be public. We should be able to see what the evidence is. And I think that the official narrative on Tyler Robinson is not correct. But I think Tyler Robinson is likely the person who did it. We'll see what the evidence bears out. I think Tyler Robinson did not act alone. And there's evidence that other people had foreknowledge of what was going to happen, happen. And that is being effectively. I don't. I don't know if covered up is the right word, but you've got people claiming Israel did it, which seems ridiculous because Charlie held a seminar to convince Gen Z to support Israel. Like, even Nick Fuentes is like, that's crazy. Like, if Ben Shapiro died, people are gonna be like, israel did it. That's insane. That being said, they are really downplaying all of the evidence suggesting other people were either assisting or involved with this assassination, such as the vehicles outside of Robinson's house, the social media posts from individuals saying, something is going to happen. They had foreknowledge. Something is going to happen. The question is, how did they know?

[Carolyn Wren]

Well, he's the director of counterterrorism, which, by the way, this is an organization that was founded post 911 because there are many people say that if the CIA, FBI had actually been coordinating on the intelligence that they have, we could have prevented that attack. So that is what the. His role is to be at the intersection. He has access to every single piece of sensitive data that comes through our country from both the FBI and CIA. So the idea that Joe Kent, he's saying that they tried to obstruct him. Nobody disrupted you, Joe. You were in that job. You could have investigated anything. You were the Director of Counterintelligence and you were counterterrorism. You were Senate confirmed. No one is able to go into the computer system and block Joe Kent from having access to that data. So, one, I think he's a liar, and I think that this is pretty outrageous as to what he did. And by the way, you were in that role for a year, so what the hell did you do about anything other than run away and then go debate Mark Levo van where I learned absolutely nothing. And what was the worst, like, 47 minutes of my life?

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah. And if he's fixated on all this, this indicates why there was so much inaction on, like, the antifa cells following the Charlie Kirk assassination if he didn't even think it was them that conducted the antifa.

[Carolyn Wren]

And if Andrew Covell sends you a private text message chain that they want to keep private, and your job is to go and investigate that, you have access to literally every single piece of intelligence the United States government has access to, and instead you give it to Candace to say on our podcast, what are you doing?

[Tim Pool]

He denied leaking it, but. But Colvett and I can corroborate this. Said that he. Colvitt said that he gave that text where Charlie said he was. He would. He was being forced to leave the pro Jewish cause. He gave that to Joe Kent. And then, sure enough, the next thing he knows, it leaks to Candace Owens. Joe Kent's denying it, but then it would be Joe Kent gave it to somebody he shared with somebody after he said it needs to be made public. What I can say is that I had spoken with guys at tpusa, including Cole it, and what they're saying now is true, that this is my understanding before any of this became public, when the text came out, I was told this exact story. And so the fact that Joe Kent is now, you know, in the spotlight and Covid is saying he's the guy that was given it and it got leaked even before this was public. I knew. So I don't say anything because if someone tells me to keep things private, you know, I'll be like, okay. Because they're like, we don't know who leaked it. But I'm like, like, yep, I don't know. Well, I will say this. It would seem, at least as far as my understanding of these conversations, Joent did leak these texts 100%. Now, whether he leaked it to Candace Owens, I don't know. But somebody was giving it, and it got to Candace. Now, the problem is the problem with the selective release of a text message like that and what Candace is doing with these texts is that she can Just put out whatever message she wants to frame the picture any way she wants. And Charlie can't speak up to defend himself himself or to correct the context. And so I, I, I just. You see it endlessly where people are like, this proves Charlie was anti Israel. And it's like, yes, but at the same time, like around the same time, he did a seminar with Gen Z to convince them to support Israel. It's like that's context too. And it sounds like to me from these texts that he was basically venting. Not that he was saying he was changing his stance, but he was like, man, you know, it very much reminds me of the, oh, won't someone rid me of this meddlesome prison priest. Not a direct statement of I want him dead, but a, I'm just so frustrated with these people. And then it's taken to be construed as that he was anti Israel.

[Carolyn Wren]

No, he was under a lot of pressure from his donors. I was a fundraiser for Charlie. And the pro Israel donors are very intense. They care about one thing and that is Israel. I always joke that there are pro Israel donors, pro business donors, and then the like actual ideological ones. Those are the three categories. The pro Israel, they want you to unequivocally to support Israel, which is fine. And Charlie had a massive amount of donors. Right? He was the best fundraiser in the country. People loved him. But those pro Israel donors would give him so much pressure on his speaking lineups and all this stuff, and it was weighing on him. But also he would tell people in private that he thought that the trans community was gonna kill him. And ultimately, I think that's what happened here. I think the trans community did kill him. I think there's been a lot of radical trans and shootings. And I think this guy was radicalized by the trans community, shot Charlie Kirk.

[Tim Pool]

The people who threatened to kill me are not Israel. It's the craziest thing. It's just literal whackaloons. The people who have swatted us and we believe, we know it is, they are leftists. There has never been an instance where, like, it makes no sense that Charlie Kirk would be killed by Israel. Maybe some other foreign country, I suppose, but it is wild what has become of the political space in this country. And I'm going to say this too. I think another reason why young men may be dipping out of politics. You do have a break from Trump. And this could be a combination of factors from demoralization. Also, many people are probably fans of Tucker. Tucker is probably driving a shift as well. But I also wonder if there's a lot of people that have just, they've checked out because of the psychosis of politics, because you've got, you go on X and what happens, I love this. You're either a Nazi or a Jew. Like that's, that's the polar extremes at this point. And then somehow I'm both simultaneously. It's amazing. So I got to tell you, it's demoralizing and it makes it like, why would I want to be involved with any of this insanity? Why would I want to be party to the grifter class who are just saying whatever they have to say because they're scared their views are going down and that's what's happening, happening. And, and you know, I'll say this to any, to everybody watching, I, I told this story before. There's a fitness influencer. He made videos about fitness after October 7th. He made a video about October 7th. And he was like, you know, I don't really talk about this stuff, but the things that we're seeing are really horrifying. And everyone's talking about it in the comments were asking me my thoughts. So I decided to make a video. And you know, it's like everybody gets in this moment, this cultural moment. Well, all of a sudden he goes from getting like 30, 000 views on fitness videos to 150,000. And he's like, wow. Then he gets more comments being like, have you heard what's going on? Can you, can you update us? Can you tell us what you think? And so then he's like, well, when I do, last video I did, it got six figures right. There's another video on Israel. All the comments are anti Israel critical saying, I don't know, man, this seems fishy. Did you see this story? Did you see that story? Slowly, over time, with more and more comments and more and more money, his channel is now nothing but anti Israel content. He is nothing but an anti Israel influencer because his RPMs went up, his viewership went up, and he says, I've become successful. It's when you look at Mr. Beast, look at his early YouTube videos, playing Minecraft, giving people money. And then that's where he found his success. Now he's doing game shows. You know, he's just become a generic personality.

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[Tim Pool]

just chased after whatever built him up. Dylan Mulvaney another a great example. Dylan Mulvaney's original TikTok videos were gay Safari. Then Dylan made a I'm Non binary video. 4 million views. Gay Safari. No one's watching. Then I think I'm trans. 4 million views. Then I'm going to do a trans thing every single day. And millions and millions and millions and millions of views. Views. People are driven in this direction because they're chasing after what gets them money. And what I will tell you right now is behind the scenes, the business, the guy selling ads, the people know this. I don't know if this next thing is true, but I'm gonna say it anyway. A lot of people have pointed out I was talking to a guy who does ad sales and he says, you'll notice the Hodge twins on Facebook and the Hodge twins on Twitter. Twitter have inverted political opinions.

[Carolyn Wren]

Oh, interesting.

[Tim Pool]

And what I was told, it's because the the marketing company that does the posting does not care about politics. They care about engagement. So this is a guy sitting in a room who has no idea what Trump is doing or not. All he knows is that when he says Trump Here he gets 4x impressions. When he says no Trump here they get forex impressions. So they just set the machine, it keeps going. People have been saying this all over X. Every time the Hodge twins post, they're like, on X, they're pro Tucker, they're anti Israel. On Facebook, they're pro Trump. Y. Facebook is largely boomers who like Trump. X has something else going on, whatever that may be. Different, different audience. So all of a sudden, these people, they start shifting what they normally talk about. They're talking about geopolitics, talking to taxes, to erica Kirk's leather pants. 100, 400,000 views. You know, 1000-002003-00400. I'm like, why is this guy who used to talk about politics that I actually liked watching, cared about about now, just complaining that you wore the wrong pants?

[Carolyn Wren]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Because they get a boost in female viewership, they make a lot more money, their RPMs jump, and they're chasing after it. So by all means, we can have a show here where we talk about whether Trump is doing good or Trump is doing bad and be honest about our thoughts on it. But that's not what makes the most money. And then something else happens. YouTube is going to algorithmically promote whatever generates the most viewership and ad rates. And for some reason right now, RPMs on Erica Kirk content have, by, have, have passed finance. Finance is the number one RPM. It's like 20 bucks. And now Erica Kirk posts are rivaling or beating finance. I was talking. I was talking to these people who are running this behind the scenes, and they're like, oh, yeah, ERICA KIRK Content 20, 25. And I'm like, what news media is six, seven dollars? That means for every thousand views you get, you'll get six, seven, five bucks. Not if you're talking about Eric Kirk. I get 25. That means not only do you get more views, you get more money. And the reason you get more views is because YouTube is like, if the RPMs are higher, promote these videos more because we'll make more money off ad sales. So who the is advertising intentionally on Google Ads targeting Erica Kirk content? That's the weirdest thing to me, but it's happening. It is. She is completely irrelevant on the world stage. And I'm not trying to be a dick, but she is. Okay? She's running a student organization for politics. She's not telling Trump to bomb Iran. She's not involved in any of that. And if you really want to influence what's going on, you need to be talking about Pete Hegseth or Donald Trump or Mark Wayne Mullen right now. Nope, that's not where the money's at and there's a bunch of conspiracies about it, but it could just be that people chase after what gets the viewership. They struck a gold mine with this because women are interested in it and men. So if you've got 80% male viewers, but you add so many female viewers that you shift to 60% female, your audience is skyrocketing, your RPMs are going through the roof and you're going to be rich. I wish you the best of luck. Let's go to Rumble. Rants and super chats, my friends. Smash that like button. Share the show show with everyone in your life you've ever met. We got that uncensored portion of the show coming up in just about 11 or so [e-mail] Timcast IRL I will briefly mention that we have this post on X where they're announcing they are now going to rev share based on your home country to stop foreigners from talking about American politics. Go back. Is going to be epic video games.

[Lachlan Markay]

They used to have like these servers for like. Oh, just North America. Oh, Asia server. Oh, Europe server, Africa server. We need that with social media.

[Tim Pool]

No, we need region blocks, blocking. I am going to block everyone outside of like 10 countries. United States, Canada, UK, you're good. France, Germany, the Netherlands is fine. But for the most part, that's 95% of my audience.

[Lachlan Markay]

We don't only need physical borders, we need virtual borders as well.

[Elad Yoran]

Indeed, unironically.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, let's. Let's grab some of these. We got Mac. He says we have had service for citizenship for a long time, but they still have to pass the citizenship test. I had a buddy that was serving to get citizenship when I served over 20 years ago ago. Indeed. Junior Rod says. Is that what it is? J R Rod. Tate has never had true Mexican food. Tate has had American Mexican food. He needs to eat a torta or a pozole.

[Lachlan Markay]

Go eat a torto.

[Elad Yoran]

Eat a. That's not pozole. No, they're not eating this in Mexico. In Mexico, the Mexican food's really good. I'm talking about American. Mexican food is literally the same generic slop over and over again. And I can't.

[Tim Pool]

You mean like Taco Bell?

[Elad Yoran]

Not even Taco Bell's fantastic.

[Tim Pool]

It is. I was gonna. I was about to strike you.

[Elad Yoran]

Taco Bell's American food.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Elad Yoran]

It's like the Tex Mexican. It's like the same like, dude, Hardshell tacos don't exist.

[Tim Pool]

That's an American invention we make.

[Elad Yoran]

No, it's just like. Just meat on a corn tortilla. And I'm like, fine.

[Tim Pool]

I like that.

[Elad Yoran]

I enjoy.

[Lachlan Markay]

Supreme is probably the best Mexican food that was ever created.

[Tim Pool]

That's not Mexican. That's American.

[Lachlan Markay]

Well, it's an Americanized version of Mexican food. We bastardized their food to make it better.

[Tim Pool]

That is no. That is no equivalent in Mexico. Burritos or Tex Mex.

[Lachlan Markay]

Because. No, no, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

Ilad, the flour tortilla wrap, okay, that was invented in America, not in Mexico. Do you understand that, right?

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's Tex Mex. They don't have burritos in Mexico.

[Lachlan Markay]

We bastardized their food and made a better version of it.

[Tim Pool]

No, what don't you understand, too? We invented that.

[Lachlan Markay]

Tex Mex.

[Tim Pool]

Tex Mex is Texas. Texas, not Mexico.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah, but there are Mexicans in Texas, as I understand. Too many Tex Mex.

[Tim Pool]

They. No, the burrito is an American, a Texan creation. It is not Mexican.

[Elad Yoran]

The best Mexican food, they're eating chicken and rice.

[Lachlan Markay]

I don't go to Mexico.

[Elad Yoran]

That's why I'm saying the best authentic Mexican food is chipotle. Qdoba is at a close second.

[Tim Pool]

I don't even know if Chipotle accounts.

[Elad Yoran]

Oh, that's authentic. 100 burritos.

[Tim Pool]

Again, it's Tex Mex.

[Elad Yoran]

No, people.

[Tim Pool]

People think. People think burritos of Mexican food. You go to Mexico and they're like a. What? You're like a burrito, and they're like.

[Elad Yoran]

You can't. On the ethnic food stuff. You just can never win. If you're a white person, you can never win. Well, it's like a losing battle. No matter what take you.

[Lachlan Markay]

You have.

[Tim Pool]

It's wrong. Ordering a burrito in Mexico is like ordering ve. You're basically saying, give me baby donkey meat. Burrito means baby donkey.

[Elad Yoran]

You just can't win. You can't. I. I really, like. No, that's not authentic or that. That's the problem is you haven't had real Mexican food. I'm like, what am I supposed to eat?

[Lachlan Markay]

I hate it.

[Elad Yoran]

I'm sorry.

[Tim Pool]

I don't like it. Chicken and rice, bro.

[Elad Yoran]

Oh, my.

[Tim Pool]

Chicken and rice. That's what every.

[Elad Yoran]

That's every brown country. That's what they eat. That's what they eat. Oh, in my country, we eat chicken and rice. Are you all bodybuilders now? Like, what's going on? I can't handle it anymore.

[Tim Pool]

That is, like, what people eat everywhere.

[Elad Yoran]

That's the brown belt. They all eat the same variation of chicken and rice. And A certain spice.

[Tim Pool]

It's true. I went to Brazil, and I was like, let's get Brazilian food, my friends. Like, you want real Brazilian food? And I was like, yeah, it was steak and rice.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, it's steak and rice.

[Tim Pool]

Steak and rice. But they do put a little cornmeal on top.

[Elad Yoran]

Oh, that's how we differentiate from the Philippines. It's like, okay, all right. Can I get some Italian food? Maybe French or.

[Tim Pool]

And then he was like, do you want to have guacamole? And I was like, sure. And he bought a avocado that was this big. And I was like, what the is that thing? He's like, it's avocado. And I was like, it's massive. And he was like, what do you mean? And then I was like, bro, our avocados are, like, this big. And he's like, ah, no avocados. They're big. It was amazing. And then we put, like, a cup of lemon juice on it, and it was the best thing ever.

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[Tim Pool]

That's right. You just mash it up. You dump lemon juice or lime juice or whatever. All right, let's grab some more Crispy Joe says, as someone who takes cbd, THC as a sleep aid, I don't see the big issue with marijuana. It is an illegal drug. Okay? It's a crime. You're a criminal. I'm kidding.

[Lachlan Markay]

So true.

[Elad Yoran]

Unironically, yeah.

[Carolyn Wren]

All right.

[Tim Pool]

Demnuts says, did anyone else get over 20,000 back on taxes this year? Here's a tip for the boys. Sorry I can't do more. Oh, wow, dude.

[Elad Yoran]

You're gonna get audited for saying that.

[Tim Pool]

I don't get refunds. The way. The way it works when you're running a business is that you pay quarterly. And that's it. There's no such thing as a refund anymore at a certain point. That's another thing Andrew Tate should point out. When you're rich, you don't file taxes the same way. I don't file once a year. I file every quarter. And then at the end of the year, they just say, you overpaid, and we'll apply it to next year's taxes. I think I've overpaid probably, like, an insane amount.

[Lachlan Markay]

Business owners and contractors do quarterly.

[Tim Pool]

But you're legally obligated to. They will. Fine.

[Elad Yoran]

You know, I'm still a yearly wage cuck w2American.

[Tim Pool]

Andrew Tate says, if you know how much money you have, you are poor.

[Elad Yoran]

I do. I have. Not that much.

[Tim Pool]

Same old man says, tim, go outside and Talk to people in town, cities and so forth. They will give you a better idea of how popular Trump is or not. Indeed. And that's literally what I do all the time. I. I go out every weekend to various poker rooms, of course. And one of the things that I. And everybody loves at the poker table is sitting down with usually seven other people. Because a lot of. A lot of casino, a lot of poker rooms, they make more money if they do eight max instead of nine seaters. And then you're sitting with a random group of people and everyone's talking, and it's a lot of fun. And that's why old guys do it. They call them old man cough. You go to a poker table, there's gonna be three old retirees, and they're there because they want friends, and all their friends are dead. So they can sit down and they can talk with people and, you know, have some social engagement. And it is very nice. It is very nice. You know, play with these guys and then you talk and you find that. I gotta be honest, I find that most people I talk to similarly agree with what I've been saying. Even the people who are like, I like Trump. Like me, I like Trump. I think Trump's the best president of my lifetime. I think he's had a series of blunders and he's hurting really greatly. Among moderates, I sit down with some young guys, varying ages, old guys, and they all say the same thing. Yeah, Trump's a lot better, but, man, this is not looking good. And the economy's not doing well, and you and young men are struggling and they're frustrated because all of these. These hoes are getting bailed out by these Christian guys.

[Elad Yoran]

You know, you can hear it, Sorry, guys.

[Lachlan Markay]

That's how we get that reproduction rate back up.

[Tim Pool]

Salty Pete says, guys, the Save act is pivotal in saving our republic. Then why is it America first crowd, Benny Crowder, you, etcetera, putting all pressure on the GOP 24 7. Take responsibility. You command millions. We talk about it all the time. We talk about all the time. What do you think? What are we going to do? What are you going to do? Trump said he won't pass any legislation. He won't sign anything until the Save act is passed. And they said, screw off. Because they're basically like, oh, boy. If you hold out for a couple more months, Trump's cooked.

[Lachlan Markay]

You know what the cynical, hot take here is? This Save act is just more distraction from the Iran war.

[Carolyn Wren]

I think it was good to let, like, all the Podcast. Everyone's been debating the save act online instead of actually debating the Iran war. So for the White House, I actually think it's a good thing to have this Save America activate going on.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah. Draw away attention.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's go. We got electric chimera saying as. As is tradition, I'm in the hospital with my wife having our first child, our son Ray. Spin the ufo.

[Elad Yoran]

Let's go, let's go. Welcome to the world, little patriot. Here we go. Bang.

[Tim Pool]

I'm trying. Too far away. Can you see it? Oh, yeah. That hearkens back to the olden days of 2020, when the table was much smaller and there were only two people. And rarely did we have a guest. And there was in the UFO Gmail account. Here's the secret. The original purpose of this show, Tim Cast irl, was I have a van that I had built and I had talked about this on Rogan. It has solar panels. It's actually outside still works everything. It's got electric. It's got so much juice from the solar panels that it will never run out of power because it's just sunlight. And I had actually produced my morning show from it. 1 When I was on a road trip to go to Texas to join Joe Rogan and Tim Cast IRL in real life was going to be. I would do my show from this mobile sleeper van and then pull up somewhere and say, hey, guys, I'm currently in this place. Come hang out and we're going to do a real conversation where I put up a table and anybody can come and we can have a conversation about anything. And then co happened. So the channel had like 78,000 subscribers on it because I was like, check out the van. And like, you look at the first videos. Like, I had the van co happened. And it was like, okay, well, now we can't go anywhere. So then the idea was, I have nothing to do with the other half of my day. So I wake up, I do my morning show, everything's great, and then I'm playing World of Warcraft. You know, I was playing World of Warcraft Legion, I believe the time. And then I was like, you know, the easiest way to do more segments would be to just do a live stream with my buddy. And then we would just do 10 minutes. 10 minutes, 10 minutes. And we can pick anything. And the original idea was going to be weird and wild, wacky interest, interesting stories and conspiracy. And then because of the nature of COVID it turned into news, politics and commentary. And that's how we ended up where we are with this show. And yeah, now that's all over. So there we go. Let's grab a couple more of these. What do we got here? All right, let's see that one. Gamer says Trump should send the Shira Chiraq special forces with Tim leading the charge. Tim can be the company commander for Oblong Block. There are a lot of gang bangers and let's just call them listless young men in Chicago. Man. You drop those guys, drop them into Iran, man, that'll be wild.

[Elad Yoran]

YN Brigade storming the shores. I like it.

[Lachlan Markay]

What's the name of the guy who got shot?

[Elad Yoran]

The O Block rapper, King Von.

[Lachlan Markay]

There we go. Vaughn.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, for Vaughn. Come on, guys. Charge. That's how they talk from 83rd. That's all the listless young men talk.

[Tim Pool]

Talk.

[Elad Yoran]

Come on, guys, let's band together and let's take down this Nazi regime, guys.

[Tim Pool]

SA Federali says random but in the army it's legit that the bees constantly have to get shaving profiles for irritation. It's like getting ashy or something. Idk the black. They look like Freddy.

[Lachlan Markay]

Yeah, no, it's a serious issue.

[Elad Yoran]

I think if you go to Walgreens there's like 80 different products to help them with the neck.

[Lachlan Markay]

The ingrown.

[Elad Yoran]

I have that problem too.

[Tim Pool]

Let's grab one more. We got grandma. It is only 3 to 4% of Iran's population support the IRGC. All opposition factions have agreed Crown Prince will lead the tradition government watch 2 CTV to get educated on the immortal guard.

[Lachlan Markay]

The Crown Prince isn't coming back. The president says that he wants somebody from in Iran. Not somebody from.

[Tim Pool]

And Trump has been talking about the parliamentary speaker, I guess. Yeah.

[Lachlan Markay]

In Iran.

[Elad Yoran]

You guys are idiots. You're not watching this really obscure YouTube channel. For what's really going on in Iran,

[Tim Pool]

we are going to go to the uncensored portion of the show [e-mail] timcast irl. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met because it's important, I suppose. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim cast. Carolyn, do you want to shout anything out?

[Carolyn Wren]

Thanks for having me. This was a lot of fun.

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Right on.

[Lachlan Markay]

Good evening, everybody. A lot of Yahoo White man, White House reporter. Thanks for having me, Tim. It was a good time, Caroline. It's been fun to chat. Tate, how's it going?

[Elad Yoran]

Yeah, X and Instagram at Realtate Brown and I'll be back tomorrow for the Tim cast news new and life. Also, where. Where can people find you like on Twitter?

[Carolyn Wren]

Oh, just at Caroline Ren on X and True Social.

[Elad Yoran]

Love it.

[Tim Pool]

All right, Carter Banks, you can follow me at Carter Banks on X. And Instagram was just Carter banks with a 4L because someone else took it. Follow our label Trash house Records on YouTube at TrashSseRecords. Tim, we'll see you all [e-mail] Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.

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