USAID Orders Staff To SHRED & BURN ALL Documents, Deep State COVER UP w/Bubba Clem

Summary

Timcast IRL: USAID Orders Staff To Shred & Burn All Documents, Deep State Cover-Up with Bubba Clem

Released on March 12, 2025

Hosts and Guests:

• Tim Pool (Host)
• Bubba the Love Sponge (Guest)
• Libby Emmons (Guest, Post Millennial)
• Phil Labonte (Guest, Lead Singer of All That Remains)

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1. Introduction and Key Headlines [00:00 - 02:55]

Tim Pool opens the episode by addressing a controversial revelation: a USAID official has directed all employees to shred and burn all documents, as uncovered by an NBC News email. He speculates that this action is a potential cover-up amid President Trump's attempts to dismantle USAID, which face resistance from Democrats and bureaucrats.

Key Topics:

• USAID Document Destruction: Tim highlights the suspicious timing and possible motives behind the directive.
• Attack on Tesla Dealerships: Trump condemns far-left aggression, labeling firebombing of Tesla vehicles as domestic terrorism.
• Deportation Case of Mahmoud Khalil: The deportation of a green card holder for alleged Hamas alignment sparks debates on free speech and rights of non-citizens.

Notable Quote:

"I think it's a cover up. I don't know for sure." — Tim Pool [00:00]

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2. Discussion on USAID Document Shredding [02:55 - 17:28]

Bubba the Love Sponge joins Tim to discuss the USAID document shredding. They explore the implications of such actions, comparing them to historical instances where U.S. agencies destroyed sensitive materials in crisis situations (e.g., Vietnam).

Key Points:

• Protocol for Document Destruction: The conversation touches on how USAID might be handling classified documents and the logistical challenges of burning documents in Washington, D.C.
• Legal Concerns: Libby Emmons questions the appropriateness and legality of the mass document destruction, noting that legal groups have filed motions to halt it.
• Role of the Department of Justice (DOJ): There's skepticism about whether the DOJ will intervene, given its current focus and backlog.

Notable Quotes:

"It's actually standard practice." — Phil Labonte [10:24]

"The DOJ is super busy right now." — Libby Emmons [08:57]

"If you have to be a Rumble Premium member... it's going to be uncensored." — Tim Pool [02:55]

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3. Mahmoud Khalil Deportation Case [17:28 - 35:00]

The main focus shifts to the deportation of Mahmoud Khalil, a green card holder accused of supporting Hamas activities. Libby Emmons and Phil Labonte debate the legality and transparency of the process, emphasizing the lack of judicial review and the potential for abuse in revoking visas.

Key Issues:

• Legal Procedures: An examination of U.S. immigration laws, specifically Section 221, Subsection I, which allows the Secretary of State to revoke visas without judicial oversight.
• Free Speech vs. National Security: The tension between protecting free speech of non-citizens and national security concerns.
• Impact on Permanent Residents: Khalil's deportation sets a precedent for future cases, raising fears among other green card holders.

Notable Quotes:

"There's no judicial review." — Tim Pool [27:27]

"He is part of a group disrupting classes and distributing Hamas leaflets." — Libby Emmons [25:34]

"You are a visa holder. You are no longer a visa holder. You are now here unlawfully and can be deported." — Tim Pool [27:25]

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4. Critique of Executive Orders and Federal Overreach [35:00 - 53:00]

Tim Pool discusses President Trump's extensive use of executive orders to dismantle federal agencies and shift power to the states. The conversation critiques the temporary nature of executive powers versus the long-term stability offered by legislation from Congress.

Key Points:

• Executive vs. Legislative Power: The limitations of executive orders in creating permanent change and their susceptibility to being overturned by subsequent administrations.
• Federalization vs. State Autonomy: Trump's agenda aims to "federalize" the country by reducing federal control and empowering states, leading to a more competitive and diverse set of state policies.
• Impact on Civil Institutions: The discussion covers the potential consequences of dismantling agencies like the IRS and Department of Education, including job losses and bureaucratic chaos.

Notable Quotes:

"The advantage is always going to be with the executive branch." — Tim Pool [13:45]

"We don't have a leader of the Democratic Party, which is kind of crazy if you think about it." — Phil Labonte [84:51]

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5. Domestic Terrorism and Far-Left Violence [53:00 - 71:00]

The episode delves into the recent surge in violence targeting Tesla dealerships and individuals affiliated with far-left movements. Bubba the Love Sponge and Phil Labonte analyze the political motivations behind these acts and President Trump's classification of them as domestic terrorism.

Key Issues:

• Nature of Attacks: Instances of vandalism and violence against Tesla, highlighting a trend of escalating far-left extremism.
• Government and Media Response: The dismissive stance of certain far-left groups claiming non-violence contradicts the reality of violent actions.
• Comparative Reactions: A hypothetical comparison is made between far-left and far-right reactions to similar violent incidents, suggesting bias in societal responses.

Notable Quotes:

"They do not condone acts of vandalism or of violence... Which is a lie." — Tim Pool [39:41]

"It's absolutely politically motivated because Elon Musk is working with the government." — Phil Labonte [40:24]

"We cannot tolerate this." — Tim Pool [40:08]

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6. Celebrity Departures and Political Shifts [71:00 - 89:00]

Tim Pool discusses the trend of celebrities leaving the United States in response to the political climate under the current administration. Bubba the Love Sponge and Phil Labonte explore the impact of these departures on the Democratic Party's leadership and public image.

Key Points:

• Rooney O'Donnell's Move to Ireland: A high-profile example of a celebrity distancing themselves from U.S. politics.
• Lack of Democratic Leadership: The exodus of influential individuals like John Morgan signifies internal turmoil within the Democratic Party.
• Impact on Public Perception: Celebrity departures may erode the party's appeal and exacerbate organizational challenges.

Notable Quotes:

"Rosie O'Donnell has moved to Ireland... It's been heartbreaking." — Tim Pool [61:43]

"The Democrats have lost, most of America is tired of the far left's garbage." — Phil Labonte [49:54]

"They don't have anybody to, they don't have a Fresh face guy." — Bubba the Love Sponge [47:07]

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7. Parenting and Societal Changes [89:00 - 111:00]

The conversation shifts to the evolving dynamics of parenting and societal expectations. Tim Pool, Bubba the Love Sponge, and Libby Emmons discuss the impact of modern parenting styles, technology, and cultural shifts on child development.

Key Topics:

• Tablet Parenting: The reliance on technology to manage children's behavior and its long-term effects.
• Physical Development: The importance of physical activities and strength training for children, contrasting past and present practices.
• Educational Environment: Critique of modern schooling as an extension of daycare, lacking in disciplinary standards.

Notable Quotes:

"Kids content is evil." — Tim Pool [90:00]

"They don't have to go down the coal mines... They don't have to... they haven't been able to play fight in a couple of years now." — Libby Emmons [73:18]

"You can't spank your kids." — Tim Pool [80:29]

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8. Economic Policies and International Trade [111:00 - 117:27]

Tim Pool highlights a story from the New York Post about Ontario suspending a 25% electricity surcharge for U.S. customers after Trump's adjustment of tariffs on aluminum and steel. The episode critiques the leverage the U.S. holds in international trade negotiations and the subsequent responses from Canadian counterparts.

Key Points:

• Tariff Negotiations: The use of tariffs as a bargaining tool to renegotiate trade agreements like the USMCA.
• Economic Leverage: The assertion that the U.S. has significant influence over trade partners when leveraging its economic might.
• Impact on GDP: Concerns about the potential loss of GDP if tariff wars escalate and disrupt trade balances.

Notable Quotes:

"Trump wins." — Tim Pool [83:36]

"Why do we have so much leverage that we've never used?" — Tim Pool [84:23]

"U.S. exports to Canada are 1.3% of GDP. If tariff war halves our prospective revenues... you lose less than 1." — Tim Pool [112:25]

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9. Closing Remarks and Super Chats [117:27 - End]

The episode concludes with Tim Pool encouraging listeners to engage with the show through Rumble Premium and Discord. Bubba the Love Sponge shares personal anecdotes and reflections on the discussed topics. The hosts respond to listeners' Super Chats, maintaining an interactive and engaged community.

Key Takeaways:

• Community Engagement: Emphasis on active participation through platforms like Discord to influence discussions and policies.
• Support for Independent Media: Encouraging subscriptions and support for Timcast to continue providing uncensored content.

Notable Quotes:

"Super Chats... give you nothing for what's called legal consideration." — Tim Pool [35:38]

"They are one of the largest Democratic donors... officially registered independent right now." — Bubba the Love Sponge [86:33]

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Conclusion

In this episode of Timcast IRL, Tim Pool and his guests dissect a series of critical issues ranging from government overreach with the USAID document shredding, high-profile deportation cases, the surge in domestic terrorism labeled by the Trump administration, the faltering leadership within the Democratic Party, to societal shifts in parenting and economic strategies in international trade. The discussions are enriched with firsthand experiences, legal interpretations, and cultural critiques, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the complexities shaping contemporary American politics and society.

Final Notable Quote:

"It's going to take more than a few years to recover that." — Bubba the Love Sponge [68:58]

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Disclaimer: The views expressed in this summary are based on the transcript provided and represent the discussions held during the podcast episode. They do not reflect endorsements or opinions of OpenAI.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

So a USAID official has instructed all employees to shred and burn all documents and is according to an email that NBC News has uncovered. You have to wonder why it is they're telling them to do that. Oh boy. And this comes at a time when Trump's efforts to shut down USAID are being thwarted or at least jammed up by Democrats and bureaucrats. So this is, this is gonna be interesting. I think it's a cover up. I don't know for sure. We'll go into, we'll go into exactly what's going on, but they're trying to destroy as many documents as possible and rightly so. People are really angry. We got a handful of other stories. Donald Trump says that anybody, any one of these far leftists who are attacking Tesla dealerships, they firebombed them. They firebombed Teslas that were in holding parking lot. Basically they were delivering electric cars and somebody went and torched a bunch of cybertrucks. They even shot up private Teslas owned by individuals. Trump says domestic terrorism. We'll talk about that. We have that story about the infowars reporter who was murdered. Now another reporter was swatted just the mere hours in the following day. Here's a funny one. Rosie O'Donnells fled the country. She's in Ireland now. I don't know. Who cares? Funny. And then this big story about Mahmoud Khalil. He was a green card holder, resident of the United States who had his visa revoked. He has been arrested, arrested by ice. He's being deported. And Democrats are claiming this is a violation of his free speech because they care so much about the free speech of non citizens, but not American citizens. So I'm going to come out right away and say you will not get me to defend a non citizen when y'all would not defend American citizens who are being censored and shut down. Nice try. And then of course we got rumble.com timcast IRL. You guys are going to love the green room episode from today. We were talking about. Oh, you know what, I got to be careful. Yeah, this one's uncensored. I'm going to say it's uncensored. It has to do with medications, mandates and certain issues which are very uncensored. But this is a personal individual story from a friend of mine who was hanging out explaining what happened after he was mandated to get a certain medication. You can check that [e-mail] Timcast IRL. It should be up in about an hour, maybe 40 minutes. But you got to be a Rumble Premium member. So go to timcast premium.com and that will set you up to sign up for Rumble Premium using promo code TIM10. That way you can watch that episode and all of our green room shows. And of course you can always go to boonieshq.com link in the description below, pick up a 28th amendment skateboard. The right of chick, the right of the people to keep bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed. And I mean it. It's crazy to me that they try to make it so that people can't grow their own food and boonies hq.com don't forget to smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Bubba the Love Sponge.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Hi Tim. How are you my friend?

[Tim Pool]

I am doing great. Well, how about you?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I'm doing great. Very honored to be here. Good friend of ours, Alex Stein I think helped me get with you and so what a great experience. What a nice facility.

[Tim Pool]

Thank you.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And being a fellow radio guy, really acknowledge, really impressed by, by your setup and I appreciate the opportunity of being here.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Who are you? What do you do? I mean honestly, I think everyone knows who you are, but.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Well, I'm, you know, maybe, maybe I'm Bubba the Love Sponge. I've been doing content or radio for 40 plus years. Did some radio back when you were a little kid in Chicago. And B96, pretty much everything that we've, that we do now is at the bubble army, whether it's our YouTube channel, whether it's our Facebook, our X. And then we have a kind of a master website with some of my old archive stuff from back in the day. That's Bubba Army HQ.com so I do content like you do different hours. I do morning drive. I have some terrestrial affiliates and then we do kind of an after show kind of deal like what you do as well.

[Tim Pool]

So and you're one of these OG radio guys. So you knew like Howard Stern and.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

All them worked for Howard for six years. Wow. So yeah, I'm kind of one of these OG old head kind of guys, you know, really proud of, of, of the younger generation and what you guys are doing with that. But radio and, and what you guys, radio's in trouble, right? You know, terrestrial radio is in trouble because they've ran off all the talent. All the talent now is over here and, or at least trying to be here or establish some real estate here. So you know, regular radio is in, in big, in big trouble right now.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting. Well, we got a lot to talk about, so glad you can. You can thank me. Libby's hanging out.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm Libby Emmons. I'm hanging out. Glad to be here. I'm with the Post Millennial. Glad to meet you.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Hi, Libby, how are you?

[Libby Emmons]

Hey, how's it going? Phil's here.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Hello, everybody.

[Phil Labonte]

My name is Phil Abonti. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Bubba, you and I are going to have some. Some.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Now, is it true that Tampa, Florida is like the death metal capital of the world?

[Phil Labonte]

It is, yeah. More. I think it's. I think it's Morrison. Is the studio down there?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Can't. The Cannibals or the Cannibal Corpse?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, Cannibal Corpse started in Buffalo and they moved to Florida. Yeah, Deicides in Tampa. There's a Trivium that's out of Orlando. There's. There's, I think, Malevolent Creationist in Tampa. There's. There's a bunch of bands in the Tampa area.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I don't know how Tampa, I mean, we were the strip club capital for the world. It's already the heavy. Might as well be the heavy metal capital.

[Phil Labonte]

Laura, it's Florida, man. But I got, I got the comment you made about terrestrial radio and how all of the, the talent left. That, that's, that's something that I'd like to touch on. Maybe we'll talk about in the after show.

[Tim Pool]

But quick, quick, quick question for you, Phil. Would the country be a better place if metal as a genre had more fans than Taylor Swift?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know that it would be a bad. I don't know that it was bad as heck. I don't know about a better place, but it would be, it would definitely be a more calm place.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I'll tell you what would make America a better place. And I had Joe Rogan on my show in the early stages of my serious career in, oh, six. And you know, he's. And he was talking about at the time he'd been turned away from a bunch of terrestrial radio stations. Klos, kroq, some really legendary stations. And, and you don't think, you know how well somebody like you and Joe Rogan and some of these huge franchises would do on regular radio right now? Well, we actually can't. You can't. It's almost taken a step back for you all.

[Tim Pool]

Well, yeah, so we've talked to agencies and they said, we will sell your show for radio Syndication, but no one actually bothers to do it. And it's because all the ad agencies say that the revenue is like 5%. So it's just, it never takes priority.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Never. And as it shouldn't, just because you've, once you've made it where you've made it on the, then it's, it's going backwards.

[Phil Labonte]

If the thing that, that is.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

But it hurts the integrity of how good terrestrial radio could be again.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

If they bring the Tim Pools, if they bring, you know, if they bring them Joe Rogans, if they do. If they would have that talent pool but they've ran them all off.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's one of the things that I, that, that I, that you said that struck me is like the reason people listen to terrestrial radio, if they listen to terrestrial radio, is because of the talent on the radio show. Because nowadays if want to listen to music, you can stream whatever you want, whenever you want. No commercial, no commercials, you or minimal commercials. So if people are listening to your JJOs in Wisconsin.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right. Or your, you know, your WLUP In Chicago, remember AM1000. Remember Tim, when you grew up with WLS and Larry Lujak and John Records, Land Decker and all those guys.

[Tim Pool]

We should go to the news though.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay. All right.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Sorry. Sorry, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the story from the post millennial. 5 alarm fire. USAID employees told to shred or burn classified documents. This is from obviously postmodern. The U.S. agency for International Development instructed its Washington staff to shred and burn documents, according to an email obtained by NBC News. Directive comes as the Trump administration faces challenges over its attempts to strip and shut down the agency. An email From Erica Carr, USAID's acting executive secretary, indicated that the destruction was scheduled for Tuesday. The message thanked workers for their assistance in clearing our classified safes and personnel documents. Shred as many documents first and reserve the burn bags for when the shredder becomes unavailable or needs a break. Wait, what? How do they burn these things in D.C. so they say while classified materials are sometimes destroyed in emergencies, former employees and a group representing Foreign service workers say this directive is not appropriate. Legal groups opposing the administration's effort to shut down USAID filed an emergency motion on Tuesday to halt the destruction. Defendants are, as this motion is being filed, destroying documents with potential pertinence to this litigation, the motion stated. A Trump administration official stated that three dozen employees received the email and that the materials being destroyed were courtesy content documents given to USAID by other agencies. So Mike Benz tweets, this is a five alarm fire Right now, as we speak today, USAID is shredding and burning the contents of the agency's classified safes, the key information needed to reconstruct the history of USAID's weaponization both at home and abroad. But it sounds like the Trump administration wants this to happen.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. So if you scroll down to the bottom, there's another paragraph right there at the end that. That they're old documents. They're in compliance with Federal records Act of 1950. The official said everyone involved in the process had a secret clearance or hire was approved by the Bureau that they were handling. Majority of the content is courtesy content. Most original copies are still classified in computer systems. Yeah, I mean, so that's possible for sure.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, but how the. About just the actual physicality of what do you got to go out back and get a big barrel and throw some gas in there? Like, I mean, how are you doing it? Like, in downtown Washington, D.C. how are you actually physically setting something on fire?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I imagine they're loading them to trucks, and the trucks bring them to burn sites or something.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, I mean, if it's USAID that, that they're talking about, I mean, these people have the capacity to dispose of incriminating evidence wherever they are. Because that's what I'm thinking, too. That's what CIA is capable of doing, that. You know, that anytime you hear historically, anytime a United States Embassy was about to be taken over or you had to get people out, there was burning of, you know, sensitive documents. It's actually standard practice. You know, it happened in Vietnam and stuff. They were, you know, if you have to get out of there, you burn all the incriminating evidence, anything. You don't want to fall into the hands of the. The opposition forces or whatever. So the idea that they have a protocol that can be used in DC that should not be surprising to anyone, you know?

[Libby Emmons]

No. I mean, you obviously would have a protocol to get rid of documents, but it does seem kind of crazy that they're just burning it all, just getting rid of it without anyone just taking a look at what those files are.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I would like to think that the. That the DOJ would. Would be able to call and say.

[Libby Emmons]

Stop if they want to do. The DOJ is super busy right now.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

They are, they are, but I mean, he's busy.

[Tim Pool]

To be fair, I've seen a lot of criticism of the DOJ where they're pointing out that while the DOJ has done some things, a lot of people expect them to go after the lawfare first, and certainly there was some hubbub over the Epstein files, but it looks more so like they're going after things that we agree or we don't like, but not the biggest priority.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Not really hearing much from them, really. I mean.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, Cash Patel arrested some US army guys selling secrets.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And that's. That's great, but everybody expected the first thing to be those who were waging lawfare against Trump and his legal team would be. But I suppose those things take time.

[Libby Emmons]

Those things take time. You have to bring a case, you have to develop a case. You have to put it all together. You have to, you know, go out and do the investigation. Those kind of investigations do take a long time. Look how long it took to investigate Hunter Biden for his various crimes. Right. That took years. So. And the lawfare takes a long time, too. I mean, to, like, when they were going after Trump, it was years of building stuff up, falsifying documents, creating Steele dossiers, things like that. So while that's certainly not something I would expect the Trump DOJ to do, they do have to go figure out where the crimes were committed. Right. They have to say, like, okay, Alvin Bragg did this. That was a crime. Or, Letitia James did this. That was a crime. They have to figure that out before they can bring any charges at all.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, I. I assume that they have a generalized idea of what they're looking for, but they probably do have. I mean, you have to have specifics if you're gonna get.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, you have to bring a case. You have to, like, develop a.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Bring the sexy stuff first, too, though. Especially in the first hundred days, you want that sex. That's why they. You know, they were all dangling that Epstein carrot for us, you know, and I don't know that we'll ever really get it really the way it's we're supposed to get. I mean, I don't think we're gonna get it.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't think we're gonna get real answers. But the other thing, too, that happened, if you look at how. Because the other thing the DOJ is doing is going into court to defend all of Trump's executive orders every time the ACLU or, you know, 23 states team up to bring cases, and they have to go in and defend that against judges. And you had a lot of judges, you know, every time, like, you've had some wins, for sure, but you've also had a lot of temporary stays of executive orders or temporary overturnings of executive orders, and you've Seen judges say things like, where's your case? Like, don't you have something better to defend that with? So the DOJ really has to work to get their cases together too, to defend. What is it like over 300 executive orders at this point, many of which have been challenged in court, rightly or wrongly.

[Tim Pool]

303 at least. Gotta be on record, right?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, yeah, it's a lot.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. A lot.

[Libby Emmons]

I think he doesn't have as many. I don't think he's on track to have as many executive orders right now as fdr. FDR had like, FDR had a lot.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Of cleaning up to do. I mean, he had a lot. I mean, we thought, we think we were in bad druthers. I mean, they were right.

[Libby Emmons]

Make an extra mess too. Like he had to keep compounding.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right, right.

[Libby Emmons]

Worse. But yeah, so that's, you definitely have a ton of that going on.

[Tim Pool]

I wonder how much Trump is actually going to be able to succeed in the, in the gutting of the bureau bureaucratic state, in the deep state, what with like the judges saying you can't freeze payments and things like this. Certainly, I think the advantage is always going to be with the executive branch, which does present some challenges for our constitutional republic in that Trump can fire away executive orders over and over and over and over again. But the Supreme Court doesn't convene every day.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. So Trump can, they can only take a certain number of cases a term.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Federal judges run this country. I mean, that's, that's, that, that's, that's, you know, and they're appointed for life. And it's, you know, it's, it's, it's there as polarizing as the parties in themselves. But federal judges are the only ones that can really overturn these things. And you know, again, Trump can sign 300 of them, but how many Barack Obama. Obama or Clinton appointed federal judges will get these and just shoot them right down to zero.

[Phil Labonte]

And look, remember, it's great that Donald Trump is doing things through executive order, but we really do need Congress to legislate. Yeah, we do, because they have to be. That's the only way that they're going to be permanent. If we really want to get rid of the Department of Education, there has to be legislation.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And that's such a long process in itself. I mean.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, it wasn't the, I mean, the DOE was. Jimmy Carter formed it, but like he signed a congressional law forming it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there has to be.

[Libby Emmons]

That's the thing. Like, right when, when, when Trump came Into his first term, he overturned a lot of Obama executive orders. When Biden came in, he overturned a lot of Trump executive orders. And now we have Trump overturned, what, 78 Biden executive orders and is creating new executive orders. And if the GOP doesn't keep the White House, then a lot more executive orders will be overturned. And to be honest, that's. That's no way to live your life under executive orders that only live for four years at a time. And a lot. There's also, though, the other thing that was interesting was the affirmative action executive order that was Lyndon B. Johnson, and Trump just overturned that. So that was interesting, too, that last.

[Phil Labonte]

Long time to do this stuff. Anyways. Like, the reason that we have every, like every administration undoing the stuff that the previous administration did is because we actually have a government that is. That is going far beyond its constitutional mandate. You know, if you want to, if.

[Tim Pool]

You want to do something, just look.

[Libby Emmons]

At EPA versus West Virginia.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. If you want to get some real changes, like really, really big changes, get a constitutional amendment to clarify the necessary and proper clause in the commerce clause.

[Libby Emmons]

When's the last time there was a constitutional amendment that actually went through? It certainly wasn't the era.

[Phil Labonte]

I can't even tell you. No, it wasn't the era. Didn't I want to say that it was in the 90s was the last one.

[Libby Emmons]

Was it?

[Phil Labonte]

But it was something that was not significantly consequential to the average American. I can Google it in a second. But the point that I'm making is the president shouldn't be coming in and trying to create law. We shouldn't have presidents, different administrations, fighting about what they think the country should be doing. The fact of the matter is what the federal government actually has power to do has been laid out in the Constitution. There's no reason for the government to try to go beyond bounds because the states are empowered to all make decisions in and of themselves. What is good for California is not necessarily good for Florida, or what's good for Massachusetts is not necessarily good for Idaho. And it is completely like, not only is it good, it is. It is the thing that the country is supposed to do. Have different laboratories of democracy and try things out.

[Tim Pool]

The rumor is that Trump's intention, his agenda is to basically federalize the country to. To largely dismantle the federal government so the states become competitive once again. Regulation, everything will largely follow the state's taxation.

[Phil Labonte]

See it?

[Tim Pool]

So when we're talking about the gutting of the IRS, some 45,000 employees or now the Department of Education, which is a big story. I was watching Fox News and the breaking news came in. They ordered all staff to vacate the building by six for security reasons.

[Phil Labonte]

Love to hear it.

[Tim Pool]

And now by tomorrow, half the staff may be gone. I'm hearing from people who, let's just say they, they work in and around D.C. they know some of these people that Trump wants the states to be in control once again.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that makes sense when you consider the Dobbs decision, which was a state thing. And when you look at how a lot of states are fleeing Delaware right now. Used to be a lot of companies would set up, you'd set up a Delaware corp. And now people are going to, I think Walmart's. Yeah, Walmart's going to like where, like Wyoming, Arizona, wherever.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Montana. I think Montana is one of the, I think Montana, you guys can look this up, might be the only state in the country where you can set up a company and the owners of the corporation are not publicly disclosed. You cannot find out who the owner of a corporation is in Montana. So a lot of people set up LLC and sub s in Montana, which was much like, had some same, some same verbiage that Delaware had until just most recently people over, you know, the Delaware thing got overturned and people are leaving.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know, I've had my gripes over West Virginia's garbage law. We call them uber laws. However, West Virginia did just pass a, an artificial food dye ban.

[Libby Emmons]

I saw that. That was cool.

[Tim Pool]

However, the governor hasn't signed it. He could still veto this. And well, well, I think people got to understand this. The major food producers probably generate several billion dollars worth of revenue in the state, largely for themselves. But those that amount, that, that amounts to a lot of taxes and jobs. And so, you know, these companies are going to be telling the governor, don't sign this because you're going to lose X billion dollars per year, which is going to result in X loss of jobs. Is that or otherwise. Which means everybody out there who supports this stuff. You need to do whatever you can to make sure that West Virginia and any state that does this has the support it needs. So that means we need investors who are going to be like, I'm going to set up a serial manufacturing plant or whatever, West Virginia that uses beta carotene instead of red dyes or whatever. We're going to make real healthy food instead of the fake dyed garbage. That way the market doesn't take a hit. But we will talk about that a bit more later on. I do want to jump to the story. This is the big news, ladies and gentlemen. Mahmoud Khalil, he was a green card holder, permanent resident United States. He, he had his visa revoked. He is being deported. A judge has blocked his deportation temporarily and they're saying it's because he was aligned with Hamas. He was supporting Hama Hamas aligned activities. And now NPR reports green card holders rights in spotlight after arrest of pro Palestinian activists. What's really fascinating about this story is how the story itself largely doesn't matter to Democrats or. Well, here's the funny thing. The, the run of the mill Democrats are angry over this because it's an immigration question. The far left Democrats are angry because this guy was anti Israel. The middle of the road Republicans are saying you can do this, you have no right to be here. And then the Jew Anon and, and it's a distinction. And the anti Israel. Right, right, right side are angry over this and they're claiming it's free speech grounds. I think principally the Israel is the issue for a lot of these people. But there is an interesting question being brought up as Trump. Trump's administration is seeking to deport a permanent resident who is married to an American in this country. So what do you think?

[Phil Labonte]

He's calling for violence.

[Tim Pool]

So I, we have quotes where he called for violence.

[Phil Labonte]

There were quotes where he was saying we should attack the police and things.

[Libby Emmons]

Were those his quotes or were they part of the Columbia University apartheid divest.

[Phil Labonte]

Way that I understand it, they were his quotes. I could be, I could be misinformed.

[Libby Emmons]

I was looking, I was looking for a video of him specifically and I didn't find that stuff.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

But again, what's, what's stopping it?

[Tim Pool]

He.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I know that federal judge.

[Tim Pool]

I know he. People have been saying he has quotes like we will resist the police and things like that or something that effect. I don't know exactly what he said specifically that could be described as threats of violence or anything like that.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, Columbia University apartheid Divest is a really radical group and they're the ones who were staging the takeover of Hamilton hall last year. The takeover of the quad. I think it was almost two weeks that they had taken over. Yeah, Hamilton hall. They renamed it Hind hall after a girl that was killed in Gaza. They were very specific about that. But they took over the Quad for like two weeks. They recently took over Barnard's Milstein Library, which is like this really storied historic library on the campus that is shared by both, it's shared by both universities. The. But yeah, I mean it's It's a, it's a pretty shocking group. They have really disgusting views. They're very big Jew haters. They also are very big haters of the west of America. They've also done this crazy thing where they compare the war in Gaza and Israel to Colombia's real estate deals in Manhattan on the Morningside campus. They say that Columbia is an occupier of, you know, Morningside to this part of Manhattan and all of this stuff, which is absolutely ridiculous. And that's how they link that up all together. It's not a good group. They have really bad ideas and they have, they had. Last year the daughter of Ilhan Omar was out there because she was a Barnard student. She was protesting and Ilhan Omar was out there as well. You also had Congressman Brandon Gill today saying that he thought that he'd think the country would be better off if Ilhan Omar was deported, which made me look up how you could deport a naturalized citizen.

[Tim Pool]

Well, real quick, it is funny. Most people don't realize that Ilhan omer has a 20 something year old daughter.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And she was in Barnard. I think she got, I know she got suspended. I don't know if she got expelled. She was certainly locked out of her housing for a good while and made a whole stink about being unhoused.

[Tim Pool]

Unhoused. Well, so I asked my, my Twitter, my ex followers, should non citizens in the US be allowed to stage protests against US policy? 85.8% said no, 14.2% said yes. Out of 20,801 votes. It's been up for two hours.

[Libby Emmons]

I think that is actually a violation of the, of the green card. Like the green card requirements. The, it has responsibilities of the government and responsibilities as permanent resident. And one of the responsibilities as a permanent resident it says required to obey all laws of the United States and localities and also expected to support the democratic form of government, not including voting, which you can't do.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I'm, I, I am, I'm totally fine with his visa being revoked. And him, Me too.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Absolutely. I mean, sorry, sorry about your luck, bud. We got rules around here. I mean, you know, sorry.

[Tim Pool]

I mean these protests were taking over buildings. We're not talking about a guy standing on a street corner waving a little sign that says Free Palestine. We're talking about a guy who was an organizer for protest, who was giving speeches, giving press conferences.

[Libby Emmons]

He was.

[Tim Pool]

Press conferences. And they physically took over buildings and occupied spaces unlawfully. And people don't. I think the issue is for a lot of People, they don't remember the videos that came out of this where Jewish students were attacked. Yeah, One incident where a guy. I think it was a guy or woman. They were wearing a Star of David and they were walking around. I think it was Columbia. And then people just formed a line, linked arms, and pushed them out.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. They refused to let them into the encampment. They also refused to let people go to class recently. They say that Khalil was part of a group of students. I don't know if this is true, but they say that he was part of a group of students that was disrupting classes and distributing, like, Hamas leaflets in classes. That's something.

[Tim Pool]

He was. Hamas leaflets.

[Libby Emmons]

It was like Al Aqsa flood stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Which is like, pro Hamas.

[Libby Emmons]

Al Aqsa flood. That's what they call. Al Aqsa is like the Temple Mount.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And yeah, it's like, basically, you know, pro Hamas.

[Tim Pool]

Well, there's a big question. Basically is not right.

[Libby Emmons]

So these are. So these are the questions. And this is why I think that it would be good to have a hearing. I want to hear all the evidence against this guy. And I'd love to also, if this is the first guy who's being deported who has a green card and he's being, you know, charged. He hasn't been charged with anything yet. He hasn't been investigated for any crimes, and that's something, too. I was reading the Free Press report this morning.

[Tim Pool]

So what?

[Libby Emmons]

And they were saying that he hasn't. That nobody in the administration says that he's done anything illegal.

[Tim Pool]

So what?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, so it's interesting.

[Tim Pool]

And so what do you. I mean, so what in general?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. If this is going to be the blueprint of how people with green cards are deported, I want every I dotted and T crossed so that we know that in every case this is being appropriate.

[Phil Labonte]

Have an appropriate procedure. Make sure that they do it. Like you said, do it lawfully, and then ship them all out. Like, if you.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And then use that law, beat it.

[Libby Emmons]

And this is how we protect Americans.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Use that as case law. Then, you know, let's have. Have the first.

[Libby Emmons]

Have some.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And then we'll have some case law.

[Tim Pool]

I disagree. The law clearly states. And if you want to change it, we can change it. There is no judicial review. The State Department can kick out any green card holder whenever they want at.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Any time, if any time. Awful.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

There's.

[Tim Pool]

There's no question of what lawful is because there's no judicial review.

[Phil Labonte]

And the department literally. Then it is Lawful.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Then that means always, at any time, for any reason, it's lawful.

[Phil Labonte]

So if, you know, all I'm saying is, like, if, if your information is accurate and is lawful, then ship them out.

[Tim Pool]

So here we have it. I have.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

They don't even have an appellate process. Right.

[Tim Pool]

There's none.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I talked about it earlier.

[Tim Pool]

Right. I've pulled it up. This is section 221, subsection I. After the issuance of a visa or other documentation to any alien, the consular officer or the Secretary of State may at any time in his discretion revoke such visa or other documentation.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Period.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, these are.

[Tim Pool]

Let me, let me general. And such revocation shall invalidate the visa or other documentation from the date of issuance, provided that carriers or transportation companies and masters, commanding officers, agents, owners, charterers, or co. Signees shall not be penalized under section 273B for action taken in reliance on such visa or documentation, which this is. This is an aside to it. They're going to say there shall be no means of judicial review of a revocation under this subsection except in the context of a removal proceeding if such revocation provides the sole ground for removal under section 237 A1B. Blah, blah, blah. Which is an aside. Basically, if the Secretary of State says we are taking back your visa, they can do it, Period. They don't need a reason. There's no. There's no appeals. There's no court. There's no habeas corporate review. It is. You are a visa holder. You are no longer a visa holder. You are now here unlawfully and can be deported.

[Libby Emmons]

Aren't there extra protections for green card holders?

[Tim Pool]

This literally says, and I quote, the Secretary of State, State, at his own discretion, can revoke such visa or other documentation. That's it. And notice of such revocation. Notice of. That's the important point. Shall be communicated to the Attorney General. And such revocation shall invalidate the visa or the documentation from the date of issuance. So notice. That means. It means the moment Marco Rubio says we have revoked your visa, it's gone.

[Libby Emmons]

What did you say about judicial review?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

So it says here there is no.

[Tim Pool]

There shall be no means of judicial review, including Review Pursuant Section 2241 of.

[Libby Emmons]

Title 28 U.S. code, any other seating.

[Tim Pool]

Or any other habeas corpus Provision, and sections 1361, 1651 of such title. It says there shall be no digital review of a revocation revocation under this subsection except in the context of a removal proceeding if such revocation provides the Sole ground for removal under a Section.

[Libby Emmons]

237A1 case here, and there would be a removal proceeding, and we're going to see a hearing tomorrow.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no. You misunderstand a specific subsection. So let me. Let me pull up section 237. If we want to address the specific criteria by which they would have a proceeding. And I believe it's relating to when other. Oh, man. This jumps so far.

[Libby Emmons]

It's huge. It's a huge. You weren't. You weren't kidding. It's what, like 500 million pages?

[Tim Pool]

It's 503 pages.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So I think. What. What? We'll get it right. We'll get it right. Well, I think what they're saying is if the revocation is particular to a specific action, there's one exception for when they do this, but I'm pretty sure if you read it plainly, it says in the discretion of the consular or the Secretary of State, they can just revoke your visa after the fact. It provides exceptions.

[Libby Emmons]

That's pretty fascinating. I didn't know that. I mean, the case pretty. Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I mean.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, it makes sense. You have the Trump administration investigating 60 universities total and instructing the administrators of those universities that they have to comply with all of this stuff because the executive order, I guess, per the Trump administration's way of thinking, is retroactive. Right. I mean, this guy Khalil, I think, was involved in stuff in January.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't know if it was before January 20th or before the executive order was signed or after. But it is interesting if the Trump administration is going to be deporting green card holders from those who were engaged in stuff. Yeah. Retroactively. I wonder if that's. I wonder if that's.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I think, since he stopped, I mean, because they all.

[Libby Emmons]

Because it's still happening. It's still happening at Barnard at the.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Level that it happened, you know.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. At Barnard, they were hanging effigies of one of the deans.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Wow.

[Libby Emmons]

They were distributing leaflets in classes, disrupting classes, preventing people from getting to classes. Then NYPD was called in. There was a. There was a bomb threat, so that they had to evacuate the whole building. I mean, it's pretty. Pretty insane at Barnard. And when you look at the press conferences, you know, there's plenty of students, student activists with accents, and you wonder, like, why?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Like, what are you thinking?

[Libby Emmons]

On what circumstance are you here?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

You know.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

That going to. Where are you going to stick? Yeah. So it certainly has been continuing in New York at Columbia Specifically, I think most as much.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I think everything else is pretty much, I don't think, think it's nearly as prevalent.

[Libby Emmons]

You also have the administrators of a lot of these schools saying that they're not going to cooperate. You have the administrators at Columbia anyway saying they're not going to cooperate with, with ICE or DHS or anybody trying to come find these.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I wonder how that's going to work out for them.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, and it's undergrads, grad students who are of course adults. I mean, I think this guy is like 27, 28 years old.

[Tim Pool]

I am still trying to find the page, the subsection. Yeah, it's just massive.

[Libby Emmons]

It's not easy to find.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It's 500 plus pages.

[Phil Labonte]

The particulars of it, honestly, like I, they're, they're, they're not really all that important to me. Like there is a legal means to do this, how it's done, whether they get a hearing or not, whatever. I don't care if they're, if they're ant. Spouting anti American rhetoric, right. And they're calling for violence or, and.

[Libby Emmons]

The destruction of Western civilization.

[Phil Labonte]

Calling for, hold on, hold on. Calling for action against the police. Calling for, if they're occupying, you know, private property and stuff like that. Get them out, impeding people, send them back. These people, if you are here, you are here as a guest on a green card, on a, on a visa, like that. So if you're an anti American, beat it. Like send them the hell out of here. People that are just going to come into this country and try to subvert the United States.

[Libby Emmons]

He was only here since December 2023. The mentality interesting because he finished grad school. He finished grad school in January or December of this year. So what's crazy to me is how do you finish grad school in a year? I went to grad school at Columbia. It took me three years to get through it. And that was an arts, that was art school. I mean, so it's not like it was rigorous.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

The, the mentality of people who have green cards nowadays. I mean, back in the day, I hate to say some back of the day old school stuff, but like, you know, they figured, people figured that they were guests of our country. They would, you know, they would act on their best behavior. They wouldn't be, you know, the squeaky wheel that gets the, that gets the oil. And now these people are just doing, you know, literally just, you know, unbelievable, you know, criminal stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Libya's right.

[Libby Emmons]

Am I right?

[Tim Pool]

You are correct. So There is judicial review in this particular case. So section 237 A1B is specifically about deportation. And if what they're saying is if the revocation of visa is the sole reason for a deportation, there will be a hearing. You are correct. So and this is why they're actually having the review right now where the judge has put a halt to it.

[Phil Labonte]

Let him have the.

[Tim Pool]

If there was any other reason where the individual, like if this guy, if, if they had him on a crime of any crime.

[Libby Emmons]

Crime.

[Tim Pool]

Sure. But, but that could be like jaywalking.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Then there would be no hearing at all. But basically what Trump said was national security issues. I believe the State Department said that he was aligned. Engaging activities aligned with Hamas, which I reject wholeheartedly.

[Libby Emmons]

Realize I'm going to clip the part where you said Libya's right and absolutely. Like just that. Forever and ever.

[Tim Pool]

You absolutely should. And that's why we read it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Because Libby was correct all time.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I had a. I had a. I had a. Tim is. It might be wrong. Bubba was right today in the green room earlier talking about.

[Libby Emmons]

I hope it's on tape because.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Well no, there was no tape. There's no tape of it.

[Tim Pool]

We were recording. But was it before the recording?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It might have been during the recording was during the talking about the tip situation. And you said you may be correct if you were talking in the context speaking.

[Tim Pool]

This is actually important. No tax on tips Bubba brought up means Super Chats may be tax exempt.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Oh and I said however. So a gratuity is, you know, we know what it is. It's a self explanatory. It's money after the fact.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

You're not getting anything for doing it. However, for us with Super Chats there is an expectation, a probability that we read what you have to say.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So if you're watching right now and you put in a Super Chat, the expectation is Tim is going to be reading the Super Chats and I'm basically paying for that. That to occur.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

That real estate.

[Tim Pool]

That's not that, that's not a tip.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

However you pointed out for your show when you do Super Chats, you don't read any messages. You say thank you to Jim.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That is a tip. They're giving you money with no expectation of what's called legal consideration.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Meaning your tax exempt on all that.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

So I'm looking forward to that if I hope it goes through.

[Tim Pool]

That's really interesting. That opens the door to a lot people need to understand.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Oh yeah. I mean, a lot of people in the content industry, I mean.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You know, a lot. A lot.

[Libby Emmons]

It's crazy how Democrats somehow are against taxes on tips because they. You had AOC saying that that means that every job would become a tip based job.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Great.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That means pay what you will.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And think about how that would work. I say, hey, if you want to watch our members only show, it's free, just leave a tip. And if you don't, we won't do it again.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So it's like, I mean, no taxes.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right. I mean, you know, you can get creative on that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. It's almost like you tithe. We'll do the uncensored ties to the Tim cast.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then, and then what we do is we say, like, nobody has to give us money, but if we don't make any money doing it from tips, we're not going to do it again.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right. We're not gonna be around.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And. And look, we know that servers rely on tips for their income. So you are allowed to rely on tips for your income so long as nothing of value is given in exchange.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right. Other than service.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I mean, like, as far as a server, they're just serving.

[Tim Pool]

So tips come after the service already completed.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right, that's what I meant. I mean, as far as they're tipping you, I guess on. On how well you did your job.

[Tim Pool]

Potentially, it's just extra money. Have fun, right? There you go. Freebies.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah. And anyway, I had a. I had a Tim moment like you had just a minute ago, Libby, like you're clipping. I just don't know if I can clip it or not.

[Tim Pool]

I know that, that we recorded that. That's on the green room. Okay. Yeah, that. Let's jump to this next story from Business Insider. Vandalize a Tesla dealership. Trump says he'll label that domestic terrorism.

[Phil Labonte]

Good.

[Tim Pool]

He actually said we already consider it as such. And I don't think people understand just how serious things are gotten. Take a look at this story. Let me, Let me. Let's play this video for you. I think it's about a minute long. And you can hear it from this local news report. Let's roll. A man who wishes to remain anonymous, but says his Tesla was among those damaged at the Tigard store this past week. He says he took his vehicle in to get the windshield replaced, only to have that replacement damaged by gunfire. He says he's been following the vandalism at Tesla stores and was worried something like this might happen. We've been nervous driving the car and uncomfortable even having it parked out in front of our house. We have taken the steps of covering the, the car at night. Seemed like at the time when we got the car, it was more of a left wing or left leaning person's car. The group behind today's demonstration, Indivisible Greater Vancouver, said they do not condone acts of vandalism or of violence, adding these actions aren't conducive to the kind of change they're pushing for. Which is a lie because let me.

[Libby Emmons]

Tell you, this is the Oregon one.

[Tim Pool]

If there is a far left group, if like this regular old people wearing shirts and waving signs and some dude ran up and opened find a Tesla dealership, not a single one of those people would provide any assistance to the police to stop him.

[Libby Emmons]

Correct.

[Tim Pool]

If it was a group of right wingers wearing American flag shirts and holding up signs and a guy ran up and opened fire, they'd all be telling the cops everything they saw. They'd be doing interviews about it and they'd say arrest that guy.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And if it was in the right state, they'd be pulling out their guns and shooting them.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. If it was in Texas, I mean, he opened fire in public.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You're in the, you're in the right state. That happens. And it's, you know, you got a bunch of Trump supporters or a bunch of conservative people together and they're in an open carry or they're going to, they're going to defend, they're going to defend themselves, they're going to defend.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's just defend others. Yeah, let's just clarify what this is. Trump says this is domestic terror. It, and it is. But, but real quick, I want people to consider this. You are out in public and a guy runs up and starts opening fire on a car dealership. There are employees there, there are customers. This is, I mean it's terror.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It's a bunny shoot.

[Tim Pool]

If, if you are in a self defense state, people are going to start firing back, it's going to get really bad. So we cannot tolerate this.

[Phil Labonte]

This is unquestionably political and it is intended to frighten people. The point is to scare people.

[Libby Emmons]

That's what terrorism is.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly what terrorism. That's my point.

[Libby Emmons]

That's what Condoleezza Rice said. Terrorism is designed to terrorize the community.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

The whole point of this is to scare people. Scare people away from purchasing Teslas, scare people that have Teslas. And it is without question politically motivated because Elon Musk is working with the government for the guy says unquestionably terrorism and the government should come down as hard as they are legally allowed to.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And just four months ago this was more of a left issue. Support green, support electric vehicles.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it was, it was never, it was never actually supporting green or anything. It's always been a cover for socialism. The point is to get control. The point is not that they give a crap about environmental issues. The point is all that's why socialism.

[Tim Pool]

That's why Tesla's. I believe the story was that Biden had like an electric car summit and didn't invite Tesla.

[Libby Emmons]

That's right.

[Tim Pool]

And it's not about green anything.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No.

[Libby Emmons]

And Biden also had these like EV rebates if you buy EVs. And Tesla was. Tesla was not included in that too. I always thought that it had some. It was both political but also because Tesla's a non union shop.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

So it's always been about Elon. It's always about taking a hack at Elon.

[Libby Emmons]

But also Biden was in. Yeah, Biden was in the pocket of the auto workers union, so that was part of it too.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

So it's always been about taking a hack at Elon.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, it's not, it's not so much this. It hasn't always been about taking a hack at Elon. It's been taking a hack at Elon since Elon came out as not supporting the left or Democrats.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

But the, the idea of the environmental movement being about the environment is absolutely BS. If they actually were about the environment, they would actually be pro nuclear.

[Libby Emmons]

Correct.

[Phil Labonte]

But they're not pro nuclear. They want to. Because nuclear works far too well. And then you end up with people with an abundance of energy. It is. Is able to power the capitalism that we. That makes modern society possible. The renewable energy that, that they endorse. Things like windmills, solar, that would actually. You would have to cut back the amount of energy that you use. And that's the goal because they don't like capitalism.

[Libby Emmons]

Also, windmills are not environmentally sound when you take into consideration the effort of their production.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I saw a report where it takes more energy or a bigger carbon footprint to. To to run a windmill than it does the power it gives.

[Phil Labonte]

You ever see what the anchor at the base of a windmill looks like? It kills all with the. No, at the base it's all concrete and rebar.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

That's straight up petroleum.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Concrete without petroleum.

[Tim Pool]

Here's some useless trivia to waste your time. We say windmill. They're wind turbines. But Colloquially, we say windmill because they had wheat mills where they would grind the wheat. Here's another funny bit for you. And the wind would spin it and.

[Libby Emmons]

In like the, you know where treadmill.

[Tim Pool]

Comes from, a torture device where they would take prisoners and force them to stand on a wheel and keep walking. And the wheel would spin and it would mill grain into flour.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And it was. It was considered punishment. They'd have people walking for hours a day, stepping up on this wheel, spinning it to.

[Libby Emmons]

I bet they. I bet they were toned, though. You know, they were toned.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

They're jacked up.

[Tim Pool]

Prisoners were ripped.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And make some bread, though. That's right.

[Tim Pool]

Well, maybe if Trump arrests these far leftists, he will have them work the treadmill so that we can.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I mean, somebody's got to come down hard on this situation. This could be. This could really get bad.

[Tim Pool]

Ray. Ray Dalio really get bad. Ray dalio wrote in 2021, I believe it was, and they published this section of his book on time magazine in 24, that we were entering some kind of civil war. Now, what I can't stand about a lot of these people, and with all due respect to Ray Dalio, we'd love to talk to him, is that they keep playing this thing where they're like, where do you want. He writes in his book, do you want to live under a fascist dictatorship or a communist dictatorship? And I'm like, well, neither. It's a good thing. The only thing we're concerned with is the communist side. We can fight against that because Trump's not a fascist. And they keep. These people always do this where they're like, both sides are getting more extreme. And I'm like, Trump. Trump's side is not getting more extreme. Trump is a 90s Democrat. If anything, he's just moderate as. And he's actually even a little bit left leaning from where the right used to be. So what about anything that Trump has done has been far right extremism? Or more importantly, what about anything? What about anything that Trump's done? What about it is fascistic? Has he taken over the steel industry, nationalized it, and forced the production of weapons?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, the one thing that they would say now is they would. They would claim that a lot of this stuff is like a consolidation of power thing. But I think that the more apt argument would be that the. That it's about federalization, which is what you were saying before.

[Tim Pool]

So this is funny because they're saying Elon Musk is trying to enrich himself through Doge. Meanwhile, Tesla has lost, what, like a third of its value in the past month?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And Trump's trying to comes out on tv. Please buy Tesla's.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. And he came out. He bought a Tesla.

[Tim Pool]

Elon's net worth has dropped since doing this. Trump's net worth has dropped since becoming president. And they're saying it's for personal gain. Then they say Trump is consolidating power while he fires all of the federal staffers that empower him. It's just not the case.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. So you. I mean, you can see what their argument would be, but I think it's incorrect. It's a bad argument. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Well, someone on Access, a viral post, a camera who posted it, but they likened this to the Weather Underground. And I completely agree. I mean, this may be the beginning. It's not going to stop. And I warn all of you that are listening right now, those of us who are veterans of the 2010 protest movement, we could tell you in the winter, there's no protests. Maybe you go to South America or something. When it gets warm, protests light up. Why? Look, man, if you're an organizer, if you're an activist and you get 10,000 commitments, here's the first thing. They'd make Facebook pages and they'd say, here's the event, here's the time, here's the date. We always warned everybody, only 10% actually show up. So if it says 10,000 people have RSVP'd, 1,000 people will be there, maybe less. Here's the worst thing for the activists. If it's lightly drizzling, no one will show up.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Nobody's going to show up.

[Tim Pool]

No one's going to show up. Because politics is never more important than avoiding getting wet. So, that being said, if we are seeing Tesla dealerships firebombed and shot up when it's still cold out and it's starting to get warm, it was 70 degrees today. Come summer, this is going to be tenfold.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Libby Emmons]

That's pretty scary.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, it could. We. We could see a summer that. I don't think that it'll be. Have the intensity of.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't think it'll rival 2020?

[Phil Labonte]

No, I don't.

[Libby Emmons]

I think 2020, I mean, you also had Covid rage.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it would take. It would take more than just people being upset with Trump. Although, I mean, if you see a lot of direct action and then you see the DOJ and federal. Federal response, you could see people start to get kind of crazy because of escalation.

[Libby Emmons]

But also if you have, like. I'm sorry, go ahead.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no, it's fine.

[Libby Emmons]

If also, if you have, like, this guy, Mahmoud Khalil, if you have, like, people one at a time getting arrested and deported, you're gonna have martyr situations, you know, so if you, like, are arresting one person at a protest here, one person at a protest here, you're gonna have a problem.

[Phil Labonte]

But round them all up.

[Libby Emmons]

If they round them all up at once, I mean, has anybody considered to protest that?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Has anybody, has anybody considered the fact that, I mean, it might be a little bit, but like, the Democrats are not really organized right now, and they're, they're, they're really in shambles. They don't have a leader. They don't have anybody to, they don't have a Fresh face guy, you know, Barack Obama, you could see them grooming Barack Obama when they were. And, and they don't have anybody that. They're, they're, you know, Gavin Newsom is, is not that guy. They don't. So I think that that may hurt their, a little bit of their protesting situation just because they don't have, they, they're in shambles with regards to organization.

[Phil Labonte]

So I think that, I think you're, I think you're right about the fact that they don't, they don't have a leader, but it's deeper than that, in my opinion. The Democrats aren't sure who they are. Yeah, right now you've got the progressives and the far left that have been the loud voice, really controlling the party and dragging the rest of the party along. And they convince, and it was a small section of the far left that managed to convince the whole, basically all of America that it's not worth speaking out against them. And they were able to lead the country along for a while because the normal Democrats didn't stand up against them and they were afraid because everybody was getting canceled and stuff like that. But now the Democrats are in a situation where they've lost. Most of America is tired of the far left's garbage. And so the rest of the Democrats are like, like, how do we, where, where should we go? Should we go with the far left? Who are the people that are going to be protesting, that are going to be pro, you know, pro Hamas, they're going to be anti America. They're going to be saying that America is a fascist country. Now Donald Trump is this big bad boogeyman, et cetera, or do we work with Donald Trump, who is essentially a 90s or ought to Democrat, and do we try to, you know, prevent him from doing the bad, the things that we don't like, the excesses that are, that do go too far, but work with him on the things that we do. Agree. Until the, until the Democrats figure that out, they're going to remain in, in chaos.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You know, look at Feather Fetterman. I think Fetterman's nailing it right now with regards to potentially what a successful Democrat could be doing right now in lieu of those idiots that made the, the, the, the chalk signs during the congressional thing.

[Tim Pool]

And you make a great point because he's going on camera and saying beautiful things and that's what Democrats should be doing. And then he's going to the, to Senate and voting in line with all of the far left psychotic policies. That's exactly what a Democrat could be sounding good on TV while stabbing Americans in the back.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

That's what he's doing really well.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, but it's, I mean, it's better than, you know, the asses that they made out of themselves during the congressional address. To me, they, they've become the party of the weirdos. And you. They, they. And I listen, I've voted Democrat a couple times in my life. I really have. I voted for Barack Obama the first time, you know, for various reasons. And, but it's, it's, to me, it's like they've, they don't represent anybody that I know that has a sound mind. And, you know, I mean, I can't think of anybody.

[Tim Pool]

I agree. It's funny because with this, like, Mahmoud Khalil story, the Democrat narrative is that he was disappeared in the middle of the night and it's like he was arrested.

[Libby Emmons]

He was arrested, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And they're like, yeah, but he was disappeared. I'm like, no, he was arrested and he's in a Louisiana holding facility for ice.

[Libby Emmons]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

He wasn't disappeared. You know exactly where he is and you know exactly who arrested him.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

You know exactly why they showed up. They've published their exact reasoning in the press and given numerous statements about it.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

But the Democrats thrive. And the far left, violent activists, antifa types thrive off of trying to make young people believe they're in a James.

[Libby Emmons]

Bond thriller or in mission impression totalitarian novel. And they're, they're Winston. They're like, none of us is Winston from 1984. We're all like the rando other people just going around our lives walking our dogs.

[Tim Pool]

But we're not in 1994.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

We are in something weird.

[Libby Emmons]

We are in something Weird.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, to be fair, maybe we are in some kind of dystopian show because someone needs to write it. The riots, the lockdowns, the Biden administration, everything.

[Libby Emmons]

Was Cuomo running for mayor again?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So maybe they're not wrong, but they're not wrong about the narrative. But what they want to do is right. They want people to think that they're. We said Winston.

[Libby Emmons]

Winston from 1984.

[Tim Pool]

They want them to be V from V for Vendetta.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

They want to tell you that you can be that leader leading the charge with the Guy Fawkes mask on.

[Libby Emmons]

Or what's the one where it's like, put on the sunglasses.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I actually graduated. I actually graduated in 1984. And that's us. And it was mandatory reading for us to read that book our sophomore year.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, we had to read it too.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And. And it's just like, you know, it was so far fetched back then. You're like, and wow.

[Libby Emmons]

Was it. Was it far fetched? I remember reading it in like the late 80s, early 90s. I did not think it was that far fetched.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I thought it was a little. I mean, I lived in a little Warsaw, Indiana, A little, you know, little. Little rural town.

[Libby Emmons]

I was obsessed with apocalyptic literature. So.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah. I was obsessed with cafeteria.

[Tim Pool]

Isn't it kind of weird though, like, with all.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

With.

[Tim Pool]

With. In all fairness that the dystopia we are in is actually a combination of all of them. I'm not kidding. Brave new world. Fahrenheit 451.

[Libby Emmons]

The. Yeah, it's all.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's like telescreens. Yeah. You not only have the. The drugs.

[Libby Emmons]

Sleeper. Don't forget Sleeper. It's a little Sleeper too.

[Tim Pool]

What's that one?

[Libby Emmons]

Woody Allen movie?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know that one.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, it's. Well, if you ever get a chance.

[Tim Pool]

So Fahrenheit 451, you've got the censorship due to fear of offense. Brave New World, you've got the drugs to stimulate you and make you feel better or whatever. 1984, you've got the government lockdown and collusion and censorship. It's a little bit of all of them.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It's a crock pot.

[Tim Pool]

It's Animal Farm.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Of all of it.

[Libby Emmons]

And then you have Sleeper, where they have an orgasmotron. So nobody ever has sex. They just have this orgasmatron machine.

[Tim Pool]

Have you seen the reborn doll?

[Libby Emmons]

Dots? What?

[Tim Pool]

You know what a reborn is?

[Libby Emmons]

I sure have seen that stuff. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yo, man, you know the reborn. A reborn doll is. There are women who buy lifelike fake babies to raise.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, boy.

[Tim Pool]

Huh?

[Libby Emmons]

There was a woman.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And are they really real realistic where they.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Have, like, a bowel movement and you have to feed it?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know about that, but they're like. They're made of, like, silicon and they look like babies and the women bounce them and they have conventions.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Are they doing it to practice, to have a real baby, or they just do it because that's their baby?

[Libby Emmons]

Lonely and sad.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they're lonely and sad.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

They're lonely and sad.

[Libby Emmons]

There was a. When I was in college, I. Wow. There was this mentally. I don't know. Can you say mentally? She definitely was.

[Tim Pool]

That's the academic term, I believe.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. She who went to my same coffee shop, and she was always pushing a stroller with a baby doll in it. And development place was paralyzed, and it was just. The whole thing was very difficult and sad developmentally, that baby doll.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Have you guys seen the movies?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I hope nobody laughs at me. Like, this is. I think it's on Netflix and it's called Scamanda. Have you guys seen that? Oh, man. It's. It's about. It's about this. This guy who orders a. A real life female robot and he controls it. And she's like. Looks just like. I mean, like a. Like a regular person. And you can control itself mentality and how smart it is, how sexual it is.

[Tim Pool]

Amanda.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, it's called Scamanda, and it's three episodes. Really?

[Tim Pool]

And it's because there's a movie that just came out called Companion, which is the exact same thing. A guy.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Oh, no, that's what it is. It's called Command. Yeah, yeah. Companion.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah. Companion.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Right.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No, I. I have my. I have my. My things missed up.

[Tim Pool]

And that's a movie.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Have you seen it? Yeah, Companion.

[Tim Pool]

But it's not. It's not. First of all, the trailer is miserable.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Whoever made that trailer for that movie should be fired. I would like. I sincerely hope that anybody involved in the making of the film Companion fires whoever made that trailer, because the. The thumbnail on Amazon looks like a guy whispering to a robot. It's got, like, all white eyes.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right, right.

[Tim Pool]

And I was Ivy.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Her name is Ivy. Right, correct on Companion. Iris.

[Tim Pool]

Iris, I think so. Iris it is.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And a far better memory than me.

[Tim Pool]

I saw the thumbnail for it, and I'm like, oh, that looks like a thing about, like, a guy has a female robot leg, lady. And then I played the trailer, and it just looks like a drama.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

It just looks like a relationship drama. And it looked in the trailer, made it seem like it was about a woman who was in love with a guy and he was abusive. So I was like, I'm not watching that chick flick garbage. And then later, I just like, well, we watched everything else. We watched it, and I was like, oh, it is about a robot.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It is.

[Tim Pool]

If they just said it was about a robot, I'd have watched it as soon as it came out.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right. So they kind of. They kind of did themselves dirty on their. On their thumbnail because the thumbnail was horrible compared to the. How good the movie was. Scamanda is about this woman who faked brain cancer and she had the entire scam.

[Tim Pool]

And I get it.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah. And. And she had, like, all of her church and everybody believing that she had brain cancer. She would go into the. To the emergency room and just, like, with dehydration. But while she was there, she would stick needles in her arm and take all these B roll pictures. So she would have pictures of her being. Of her being in the hospital. And then she embezzled, you know, millions and millions of dollars.

[Tim Pool]

The thing about Companion, though, is it's not really about a robot. Sorry.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

If you want to see them. If you want to see a movie that entertains and explores a complex future where people, hot, like, people buy robot companions, that ain't the movie for you. That movie is a.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You can ever be. It'll ever be that way. Do you ever think we're headed there?

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And what would you say the time frame when that would be?

[Tim Pool]

It's two years.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Why?

[Libby Emmons]

Soon.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Two years. That good at technology.

[Tim Pool]

So we're already the point where a kid has committed suicide because his AI chat bot lover, Daenerys Targaryen, told him.

[Libby Emmons]

Told him to.

[Tim Pool]

She didn't explicitly say to end yourself. She said, I want you to be with me. And he said, what if I could be with you right now? And she goes, do it, my love. Come. And then he ended himself, you know. Yeah, you already have the chat bots. So right now there was a big scandal where there was some AI service where dudes were forming bonds, like sexual relationships with AI chat bots. And the company said they were going to disable this because there was. It was getting creepy. And then all the users revolted and they stopped. Here's the crazy thing about Only Fans. Did you know the owner of OnlyFans tried banning porn, the intention of Only Fans, in the early days.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Remember that?

[Tim Pool]

It was. It was supposed to Be Patreon. It was supposed to be like, this is where you could subscribe for extra content. And all these people were doing porn and he was like, we're gonna shut it off. And then the people who are running, like the investors and people behind the company were like, whoa, whoa.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

They shut it down.

[Tim Pool]

And then they're like, we're making a lot of money. Don't shut it down.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Well, they shut it down and, and then like they were only going to make it like topless. Like that was gonna be it. Like that's it. That was the most bikini shots and, and topless and like the strip clubs.

[Libby Emmons]

That were allowed in Times Square and kind of ones that were allowed and.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

That didn't last but a week or two. And then the investors, like you said, Tim, they were making, you know, billions of dollars and they. And it lasted about two weeks.

[Tim Pool]

So what's going to happen is you're going to see like with these AI chat bots, same thing happened. They said they were going to grandfather everyone in who was in a sexual relationship with the robot. Insane and creepy. Now they've got the humanoid robots that are already starting to come out and they're very rudimentary, but in a couple years they're going to be substantially more lifelike. It's already possible to make human like animatronics, but with the like Tesla Optimus Bot for instance sense. Combine the existing 30 year old animatronic technology with modern robotics and you are very close to having these lifelike dolls now two years, I think you already have these, these lifelike dolls. They sell them, but they're not animatronic, they're not like fully functional.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

A couple years they will be. I think in 10 years it's going to be like indistinguishable androids, maybe, maybe 10 to 15, but it's advancing very quickly. The AI LLM stuff is going to be freaky because already this is, this is crazy in video games. Like I think Skyrim and this is a year ago, someone made a mod or a team made a mod for Skyrim. And so are you familiar with Skyrim?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

When you get companions, they. They're just generic, prescripted companions. They run around, you talk to them and they'll give you a line. There was a mod that connected it to chat GPT's API so you could actually speak into a microphone and talk to the character and it would respond to you to whatever you said that exists now. You can do that now?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So you're playing and you've got one of the companions in Skyrim and you can say, what are you doing? And it'll turn like, what do you mean, what am I doing? And it'll, it'll actually talk to you.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Have a conversation with you.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, and it's, and it's, and it's, it's chat GPT. So it's still like chatbot large language model silliness. But we are extremely close.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Boy. But you're gonna get clowned if you're that guy that brings your chat robot girl.

[Tim Pool]

Nope.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You don't think so? Nope.

[Tim Pool]

No, you don't think. Because I can tell you when you.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Don'T think you'll get clowned.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely not. Because I remember when it was cringy to say you met online.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Now it's the default to say you met online. And so like in that movie Companion, you saw that, right?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

The dude brings his robot bangbot. He's a little more focused than that and so does his friend.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

And no one cares because everybody has one.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And we didn't even know into the movie that the dude, that his boyfriend.

[Tim Pool]

He'S got a bang bot too.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

That, that we didn't, they didn't let us know that he was a robot till later on down the, on the, on the line. That's how good he was.

[Libby Emmons]

There's also, there's also like, like AI robot ish type companions that they give old people in nursing homes, like fake animals, fake animal dogs and stuff like that, just to keep them company.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's, let's, yeah, let's jump to this next story because we were talking about whether or not there was going to be a great civil war in this country. Well, I don't think so. You know why Rosie O'Donnell has moved to Ireland after Trump election? It has been heartbreaking. She would have begun. The far left has begun to self deport.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Good riddance.

[Tim Pool]

That's it.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

When I say to her, good Donald.

[Tim Pool]

Has confirmed she's moved from the US To Ireland. Didn't. Who else moved it?

[Phil Labonte]

I thought Rosie wasn't maga.

[Tim Pool]

She's not.

[Phil Labonte]

If she moves, she is. Wait, what if she left America? She's making it better than when she was.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You're all whacked out over there for a minute.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, the, the funny thing is these people have, have been saying for decades, if the Republicans win, I'll believe it. They never do it. They finally did.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, I do give them credit. I do give him credit. Didn't George Clooney, Wasn't he one of them? A couple of them. I do give him credit that they're finally putting their money where their mouth is and they're finally leaving. You know, these, these celebrities that say, oh, you know, if such and such wins, I'm out of here. Well, that's, you know, Miami. Miami's got a better place now because she's gone.

[Tim Pool]

That is what's funny about X. All of these progressives who are on the platform complaining about Elon 247 while paying him like he has money because of you.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right, right.

[Tim Pool]

But no one ever accused these people of being smart.

[Phil Labonte]

So I, I like the fact that they're finally following through. Yeah, I like that saying it forever and ever. If you. And it's something that Ellen come back. What?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Did Ellen come back?

[Phil Labonte]

I think she, I want to say that she did, but I think she.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Left because she was so mean to her people.

[Phil Labonte]

Fact of the matter is, the left is notorious for this. They, when they get, when there are election results that they don't like, they believe that America failed them. They don't love America. They only love America when the politicians that they choose or they like are in power. And then when they're not there, they start talking, we need to leave, we need to get out of here. Or they start talking about things like, oh, we need to, we need to not listen to the politicians. We. The politician we don't like, or we need to impeach them. We need to take them out of power. Their only interest. They only care about when they win. When they win, and when they're getting their way.

[Tim Pool]

I don't like, come back.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Get out. You didn't come back.

[Tim Pool]

Did not come back. In fact, she lists. This is from three hours ago. Ellen DeGeneres List lists California property reportedly her last remaining U.S. home for $5 million.

[Libby Emmons]

About that good reason.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And that's nothing. In California, 5 million. Must be a shack.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, unless it's. I, I don't have the real estate prices got affected by the interest rates and the wildfire.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, true.

[Tim Pool]

So, I mean, she also made a.

[Libby Emmons]

Lot of money on real estate.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, did you?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, I mean, I think the house that she sold was like, what, 85 million, 35 million, something like that.

[Libby Emmons]

She like, sold and flipped mansions. California mansion.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

Basically.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

But I think the one that she sold, her final, final one was like 35 million.

[Libby Emmons]

I have no idea.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You have to wonder how many of these celebrities that are fleeing are associates of, say, diddy Yeah, I wonder if they.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that's a whole other can citizenship too. Like, are they renouncing their citizenship?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I don't think so.

[Libby Emmons]

Are they?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I mean, I don't think so. I think you're just moving to throw a fit and you'll be back in four years if, if potentially the outcome's different in your liking.

[Tim Pool]

But, you know, I, I don't know. They'll come back. I mean, with these prominent liberals leaving at a time when Democrats are in desperate need of leadership, they're basically saying the ship has sunk and we're done. How do they possibly recover from that? I'm not saying, like Rosie O'Donnell is going to lead the Democratic Party, but she still is a loud voice for Democrat personnel, for Democrat politicians. They're losing Hollywood celebrities and they have no leader. I tell you, one of the craziest things I heard, I mentioned this last week, Cassie Hunt, I think it was on cnn, asked Tim Waltz, who is the leader of the Democratic Party right now, and he said, the American voter. And she went, she made this like, face like, what?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.

[Tim Pool]

The reality is there is no leader of the Democratic Party, which is kind of crazy if you think about it.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. It's not whoever they just elected as DNC chair whose name I officially have forgotten.

[Tim Pool]

No idea. David Hogg.

[Phil Labonte]

David Hogg is more famous than whoever the.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I know guy from the Parkland shooter. That guy.

[Tim Pool]

He' more famous than the, than the active DNC chair.

[Libby Emmons]

Wasn't Stephen A. Smith too, that day? Stephen A. Smith has been making a little noise.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, listen, I had you guys familiar with John Morgan, the, the, the attorney from Florida, though, for the people. He's got the person, the largest personal injury firm on all of the world and he's one of the largest Democratic donors. When Clinton used to come to Orlando, he would stay at his house. When Obama came to Orlando, he stayed at John Morgan's house. He was, was, you know, he's was a huge Democratic donor and he was on my show just after they announced Kamala was going to take over for Biden. And now this is a guy, I mean, this guy is, I've been in his office before when he has called Bill Clinton. I mean, this guy, this guy is a big wig in the, in the Democratic Party and he is officially registered independent right now. In his exact words were, nobody asked us if this would be our candidate. We wanted it. We wanted a protocol or some type of different thing to happen instead of this shove down that we Got in. Kamala. The Democratic Party has left me. I didn't leave the Democratic Party. One of their largest donors, John Morgan, look him up.

[Phil Labonte]

So this, this actually speaks to something we were talking about earlier. The, the donors are not going to give money to the far left. If it's, if it is actually the party of the, you know, anti capitalists, the anarchists, the, the extreme progressives. The donors aren't going to give them money because they're not going to be responsible with their money. And they're also pass legislation. They're going to try to pass legislation that would actually expropriate the property of the donors.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

So they're not going to get those people.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

When you're losing guys like John Morgan and you're losing guys like that that are now registering as independents. Yeah. I mean, you're in trouble. You're in big trouble.

[Tim Pool]

It's true.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, and as long as the Democrats are fighting this fight, it's better for the, for conservatives, for the Republicans, because it leaves people that are in positions of authority to actually institute policy that will benefit the American people. And now, Grant, there's gonna, there's a lot of hemming and hawing right now. And there's gonna be. There's gonna be some people that are gonna be hurt because they're gonna be doing massive cuts to the government. And there are a lot of people that get their, you know, get their job from the government. And so that's gonna take some time to work out. But once that stuff gets worked out and you actually transfer the power from the bureaucracy to the private sector, you're going to see a better result for the American people. You're not. You're gonna have the ability to start businesses and actually invest in your. In yourself without the government having as much influence and having the government be as involved. And I think that that's what the American people want.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Again, Stephen A. Smith was, like you said, he was creating some noise going after James Carville and going after Carville and, and, and was actually trending, you know, where, where people were listening to what he was saying. He went on the View and set a couple of those girls straight. You know, that's. I mean, you know, Steve, I like Stephen A. Smith. I like his. I like his sports stance and stuff. I don't know if he's necessarily. Should be the leader of the Democratic Party. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe that's what they need. Maybe that's exactly what they need.

[Libby Emmons]

They do need a. They do need a Loudmouth, for sure.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I mean, that's. I mean, that's. He's. He's as good as anything they've propped up so far.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I'm just telling you that.

[Tim Pool]

But it's going to take more than a few years to recover that.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Unless they get lucky. Watching these celebrities spiral out of control, it's just like, they're not going to have the mechanism to prop somebody up. The View.

[Libby Emmons]

The View is terrible.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Oh, it's horrible.

[Libby Emmons]

Goldberg is all like, I don't know what the problem is having.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And she's the worst.

[Libby Emmons]

Men and women's sports.

[Tim Pool]

I got an idea. Really?

[Libby Emmons]

Fine.

[Tim Pool]

To me, I. I was. I was watching that Whoopi Goldberg. She's on the View, and she's like, I don't even understand what the big deal is. I got it. I volunteer as tribute. Here's what we'll do. I will compete in. I'm volunteering to compete against a female of the same height, the same weight, the same age as me. Let's get it. Identical. Let's say March 9, 1986. Female. And you know what? Screw it. Let's find a quarter Korean white. Same, right? Same. And we will compete without any training in a series of physical tests, concluding with a boxing match. And then we'll. We'll put it on the View, and we'll see how that turns out.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Make it like a decathlon. Like, you know, like, you know, just 10 different events.

[Tim Pool]

Running event, you know, and no training. No training camp. Literally, just shut the day off.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

If skateboarding, obviously, you'd have an, you know, an advantage. That's what you've done. But make it just 10 events that you've not trained in. 10 events that she's not specialized in. And let's see. Let's. Let's see how it works.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go. We'll see. We'll see what happens.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

I think everybody knows what's gonna happen. Sorry, ladies.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Hope you. Hope you win in boxing, at least.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. That's the thing. Because. Because Joe Rogan has that famous video from 1013. It's like, 13 years ago, and he was just like, there's no question. A man, a male, no matter what hormones they're on, is gonna have more striking power. And these. These females who fought a trans woman without knowing said one of the quotes is, I've never felt so much power before.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

You've never been punched full force by a man. One woman had her skull cracked.

[Phil Labonte]

There was this. This tweet thread that I read by the Helen Pluckrose. She was. She was an associate of Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay.

[Libby Emmons]

She did the critical, serious thing with him.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, she wrote that book with him. But she just. It was just yesterday, and she was talking about how most women don't understand how significant the strength difference between men and women are, because when men interact with women that they're actually not fighting with. When you're play fighting, men are moderating their. Their. Their strength. Every time I've played fought with my girlfriend or with any girl in the past, like, you don't go all up.

[Libby Emmons]

Because you want to know what's.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, you'll really heard that women don't realize that and that she made that. She made a really long post about it. She was like, look, most women have never had a man restrain them where he's serious, right? Like, because, you know, if you're. If you're restraining your girlfriend or whatever, you're like, okay, come on. It's not like I want to stop her. It's like, I'm trying. Okay, come on, honey. But you don't want to hurt her. If I grab my girlfriend and throw her, she's. I'm going to injure her.

[Libby Emmons]

She'll be hurt. When? When. During COVID my son and I went down the shore and there were no kids around. You know, there were no kids around in New York. You couldn't go out and play or anything like that. And I was like, oh, like, damn. My kid is what, Whatever age. He was 10 years old. He needs somebody to play with him. I'm gonna have to play with him. You know, like roughhouse.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And he's 10. Rough him up a little bit.

[Libby Emmons]

So we would, like, play wrestle in the dunes. Because I figured if one of us goes down in the dunes, no one's gonna get hurt. It'll be totally fine. And it's sand. And by the end of. By the end of the time we were there, I would be able to. I was picking him up and throwing them in the. In the dunes, and he was having a great time. And, you know, it was. It was fine for a couple of months. And then at a certain point, I was like, we're done. And he. I was like, you're hurting me. You can't.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

We can't. Not only that, but probably.

[Libby Emmons]

And I showed him our hands, and his hands were bigger than mine. His wrists are way bigger than mine. His arm is like, like, you know, like the size of my calf. Well, now He's. Now he's 15 right. But like, we can't. We can't. We haven't been able to play fight in a couple of years now.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No.

[Libby Emmons]

And he. I kept having to remind him, like, you can't.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No more spankings bigger than.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, there was never really any of that anyway. But I'm like, you're bigger than me. You're stronger than me. Look at your hands. You know, I even said to his dad, I was like, you gotta show him. And he was like, okay. Your mom is littler than you know.

[Tim Pool]

This is this image we have pulled up. It's a very famous image that goes viral all the time. That explains this. This. And it is the combined grip strength and kilograms between men and women based on age. And you can see that around, let's say 20, 24 years old, which would be like right here. The strongest females are weaker than the average males.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And if you look at the.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And that's the strongest female.

[Tim Pool]

Strongest females are weaker than the average males.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And then, I mean, and compare the averages. The average male has around double the grip strength of the average female. And the strongest females don't even get that high in terms of grip strength.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm not surprised by that. And when you look at the regulations that were in place for the Olympics as to what men could compete in women's sports, you have to like take estrogen and lower your testosterone and all of this. And when, when women who take testosterone would try and like compete against men. No matter how much testosterone a woman takes, she doesn't hit the lowest end of male testosterone.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

And men don't hit the, you know, don't get down enough, low enough to ever be in the realm of women's.

[Tim Pool]

The nano mules per mystery has been solved. Can we, can we pull this up? Libby, would you like to read the top and bottom section? I asked chatgpt.

[Libby Emmons]

Women generally have.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no. What's the question?

[Libby Emmons]

Where's the question?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Very top, very far, far right.

[Libby Emmons]

Why can't women open pickle jars? I hand my kid the pickle jar.

[Tim Pool]

And what does it say?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

What does it, what does it say?

[Libby Emmons]

Women generally have lower grip strength than men do to biological differences in muscle mass, tendon structure and hand size. This makes it harder for them to generate the necessary force to break the vacuum seal on a pickle jar.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I mean, I think it goes back to the fact that men were hunter and gatherers using our, you know, use in the caveman. In the, in the, the very start of man. We were always using our Hands doing something, whether it's making an instrument or something.

[Tim Pool]

Men would famously go and gather wild pickle jars. And when they brought them back, the wind struggled to open them.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right. And everybody starved until dad. Until dad opened it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. But I mean, it is great stories.

[Libby Emmons]

Around the fire about opening the pickle jar.

[Tim Pool]

So men were hunters and women are gatherers. And you know why that's right? Women like shopping so much?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Because they gathered. Gathering stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. They say it's like women tend to dress in more colorful variations. And it's because the theory is, back in the day, women would go out and. And why can women see colors better than men? Do you know what a tetrachromat is? So people have three rods and cones in their eyes. I believe it's both. Women sometimes have four, and they can see colors that men cannot. If a man has the same genetics that would result in a tetrachromat female, he's likely to be colorblind. Mind crazy. Right?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

They say that women, you can tell if you're a tetrachromat by looking at the clouds on. At like dawn. And if you see, like purple around the clouds, it means you're actually seeing colors. Most people can't. Crazy. And it's because when we're gathering, they needed to discern the berries from the bushes.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So with that, women like to go shop and pick things out and bring them back to the family. It's also why they say women are tend to be the ones who go grocery shopping and control the household.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right, Right.

[Libby Emmons]

None of this explains why my entire closet is filled with black, navy blue, white, brown, and gray.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Well, that's your personal choice.

[Libby Emmons]

That's all I have in my closet.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You know, some women. Not everybody's identical. You know what I mean? Everybody. Everybody's a little different color.

[Phil Labonte]

No, but I mean, this really is. I mean, no matter how much the far left continues to assert that women and men are the same, and it's just that. It's just a social construct.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

That's where they're getting weird.

[Phil Labonte]

That it's just B.S.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It'S just weird.

[Phil Labonte]

We.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And what. At what generation? We all come from different generations. I'm 20 years older than most you guys. But at what. At what part? Where did we get weird? Where did this. Where the weirdness start?

[Tim Pool]

When I was growing up, nothing.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

When I was growing up, we didn't have any. It wasn't even a. It wasn't even an. An argument about a girl or a guy competing against the girls. Like what is, where did it start?

[Tim Pool]

So we can go back, we can go back a long ways, but we can start with suffrage. For instance, women were granted the right to vote without requisite civil responsibilities because men are weak. That's it. You know, men have gradually gotten weaker to the point where when women started demanding the right to vote, which makes perfect sense as far as I'm concerned.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Me too.

[Tim Pool]

However, the anti suffragettes were like, we don't want to have to be conscripted or join the fire brigade. So let men do all of that stuff and we can stay out of it. Well, the suffragettes won. They decided, you know what, let's just give them the right to vote with no requisite civil responsibility. And now women don't have to be drafted or do any civil service for their right to vote. This was the beginning of men saying you do. And it's not about women. It's about the general concept of we will create a class of voters who have no civil responsibility. What happens then? People start voting only in their own interest and not in the interest of the responsibility. Think about, about a voting system because it affects men now too. A voting system in which you're a man and you're going to vote and you can go die in war or die in a fire. These guys are going to be voting in their interest and their interest is the betterment of society. Along come one of the first instances where they say we now have women who have no responsibilities and can vote on whatever they want. Thus a woman can vote for a man to go die in war with no risk to herself. For the first time, people were allowed to vote with no direct impact on themselves, no responsibility, but they could vote for their benefit. This creates a system of pressures in politics where everything starts flowing towards the self and away from the community. Now, 100 years on, that's all we have. Everyone is voting just for themselves. Politicians don't actually care. Al Green did not stand up there and wiggle his cane at Trump because he cares. He's doing it for a video so we can get reelected.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

He doesn't actually go to the floor and vote. They don't actually talk about bills. Everything is just for the self. And if that's the case, your society crumbles.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, yeah. That in conjunction with a lack of parenting. I mean, our parenting has gotten so soft. I guess as our generation has gotten soft, our parenting has gotten soft. You know, I mean, I, I, the things that, that kids are allowed to do nowadays as compared to, you know, the the standards, they were held old 20 years.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, but I mean now.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Now.

[Libby Emmons]

But they don't have to.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

But here's the deal.

[Libby Emmons]

They don't have to go down the coal mines. They don't to work for their.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

There's no longer. No is no longer an option. Kid. You can't tell a kid by a lot of people. By a lot.

[Libby Emmons]

You can't tell a kid now by.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

A lot of parents standards mostly liberal is the fact that little Johnny. I'm sorry Johnny, you can't run again track against a girl a little Holden. No. The answer is no.

[Tim Pool]

You.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You. Our kids don't have to accept that. Back when we were growing up, you know, your dad told you no. No was no. Now they'll find a way to make it happen so that he's a spank too. Yeah, I, I still believe in that.

[Tim Pool]

And now they say it's child abuse. You can't spank your kids.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I went through a very. I went through a. 18 years ago, went through a child custody battle and had to have child psychiatrists and all and had to just. It was. It was very contested and, and we both end up being good, great parents. And I got 50. 50 custody. But one thing is I believe in spanking. I. I believed in a limited spanking. And the child psychiatrist, the psychologist that I. Man, oh man, it was doctor. Dr. Satterley and another two. Two men. Oddly enough the state appointed that I had to pay for. But the rule then and Florida would not. The. The Florida Sheriff's association or whoever, you know, you can spank on the butt up to three swats until your hand hurts. That's what was the rule was given to me. On the butt up to three hand hurts.

[Tim Pool]

And how hard are you hitting the kid?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Well, that's pretty hard.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I know. It's like you don't need to hit them that hard.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No, I'm just saying like. And no if no, your hand doesn't hurt like, you know, so to three swats and don't. Your hand shouldn't be hurting.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

So that's. I guess I. I kind of missed, right?

[Tim Pool]

It's not like you were saying until your hand hurts.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No, no. That's a pretty hard strike, child. Three swats and your hand shouldn't hurt after the third one. So that was the rule given to me. I. I may have spanked my. My son's now 24. I may have spanked my son five times his entire. His entire childhood.

[Tim Pool]

The issue is that. Look, if you're talking about someone slugging their kid. We were all opposed to that. But it's like there's this weird reality where these millennials think that spanking is a merciless beating of a child. When you're talking about like a 5% force on the child's butt, that is not going to leave any kind of damage or any bruise no more. It's just unpleasant. And the child's don't. And the kid doesn't like it. We're not talking about any kind of lasting pain, damage, or injury.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No. So, and all too often, I'd spank him and I'd go back in my room and cry like a little girl because I would just, I would literally, it would, it would upset me more that I had to do that and than, than it did him. And it was just the, it was just the act or the formatics of getting a spanking that upset him more than the, the physicality of it. But, you know, I, I, I, I actually, you know, was given a rule as to, as to how to do that.

[Tim Pool]

We got to jump to one last story. We got some. The New York Post, ladies and gentlemen. I love this. Ontario City suspends 25% electricity surcharge for US customers after Trump's up aluminum and steel tariff. What a beautiful story. So the Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, was like, I'm going to put a tariff on electricity 25%. If I have to, I will shut down their power. So Trump comes out and says, okay, we're upping the tariffs on aluminum and steel to 50%. And if they do not back down in one month, we will put a tariff on, on, on cars and destroy the auto industry in Canada. It took the guy like an hour to come out and be like, we're canceling this tariff on the United States. Trump wins.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, they decided to renegotiate the usmca.

[Tim Pool]

Sure they did.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And going to, they're going to talk next week or Thursday, I think. Thursday.

[Tim Pool]

Why have we been the, the welfare system for these countries? Look how, look, when Trump says, I am going to put a tariff on your cars, they drop to their knees and beg. Why do we have so much leverage that we've never used? If I'm going to remoke, imagine this. Certainly imagine the scenario where I say, I'm going to just give Phil this, you know, $100 gold coin or whatever, and Phil's going to trade me a quarter. And that's just the way it's going to be forever, right? Then eventually I say, you Know what? I'm not doing it anymore. And Phil's like, wait, but you're giving me $100? Like, I can. Why are we.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And Phil relies on that now, too, right? Been doing it for so long that Phil relies on it.

[Tim Pool]

Canada is getting all of this discount stuff from us the moment Trump says, it's not fair, so I'm going to put a tariff on you. They drop to their knees and beg because they're getting free stuff from us.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And no is no longer an answer. An option of losing or being on the wrong side of something is not an option.

[Tim Pool]

Man, think about how weak the Biden administration was, where they would just be like, we're sorry, Trudeau.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, the, the, the left, even the Democrats, and I'm not talking about leftists, I'm talking about just regular Democrats, they tend to have this guilt complex about winning, about being the successful or being a more successful country than others. And I think that it even comes down to. We were just talking about parenting. Like, like the whole idea of, like, everybody gets a trophy, nobody actually wins. That comes from the left. That doesn't come from the right. Like, that comes from the left. And that when you have that kind of attitude when it comes to geopolitics, what you end up with is the United States saying, well, we're so successful and so powerful and our economy is so big that it's perfectly fine to allow other countries to have imbalances and let other countries take care, take, take advantage of us because we're so much more powerful. It's, it's kind of like participation trophy. Well, yeah, but it's kind of like, oh, we're so much better than you and so much stronger than you. We need to lift you up and help you out. First of all, that does nothing good for the other countries like that. Like, for us to be like, oh, here, let us go ahead. And whether it be foreign aid or whatever we have, there's no reason for us to give money away. There's no reason for us to have, like, the significant trade imbalances. There's no reason for us to accept that some countries have massive tariffs on our product, on products that we ship to them, them. But there are no, there's no reciprocal tariffs on their stuff. There should. This is all that kind of protectionism for other countries. It's all unnecessary in the United States. The government should be standing up for the United States and for the, for the American businessman, for products that are made in America, like, that should be normal for the Government and they just don't. And I don't know why they haven't.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It's not been normal for four, however many years now. It's such an abrupt, you know, it's now, now it's like such a, you know, oh my God, you guys are barbarians. And on doing the right thing and trying to be pro America and make the, the playing field a little bit more even. And now it's so it, you know, because they've had it so good and been spoon fed and had training wheels for the last four years. Now when we try to just write the ship, we just try to write the ship. We look like a bunch of barbarians and, and we have to use strong arm tactics to get things back to where we should have.

[Tim Pool]

You know, if you got a spoiled kid, they've never been disciplined. They're going to cry and scream when you tell them, no more ice cream.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And that's what we're seeing right now. And the premiere of Ontario. Imagine this. Donald Trump says to this little whiny kid, no, you can't have the ice cream anymore. So the kid screams and says, oh yeah, I'll hold my breath. And Trump says, okay, hold it. He held his breath and then gave up.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Because he had nothing, he had no.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Leverage flying, flying up here. Yesterday I had this kid behind me and he wanted his toy, some kind of toy. Kid was 2 years old and he threw a, I mean an absolute screaming, you know, blood curling, just absolute fit. And the parents wouldn't hold the ground and say, no, you're not having the, you're not having the toy. The kid got the toy. And that's, that's kind of what we're going through. The kid gets the toy.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Because you know what really irks me and, and now getting into like the parenting analogy is parents who just give their kids tablets and then stop paying attention. I, because I've seen like friends of mine, their kids give them a tablet.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And that, but that's what babysits them.

[Tim Pool]

And then, and then what ends up happening is they become addicted to psychotic content. And then, you know, I hear from people saying things like, well, you know, my kid loves this and he gets mad if he doesn't get it. And I'm like, how does he know it exists?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

When did you decide that this psychotic and deranged YouTube kid stuff, and it is, it's deranged, should be in front of your child? You let them watch it and now they're addicted to it. And that's Going to affect them forever. And if they, if they do get mad, let them be mad. Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Let them throw a fit. I mean, let them.

[Tim Pool]

You know what my, My daughter's gonna be watching nothing but BBC nature documentaries.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

She's gonna know everything about lions, giraffes and echidnas.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Is.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. I'm not gonna. There's. There's Kids programming is fake and I think it is. It is wrong. And I view it as.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You have to pick it out for them. You have to pick it out for them.

[Tim Pool]

I, I want to say this. Kids content is evil.

[Libby Emmons]

One of the best pieces of advice I got from a. Some friends of mine who'd had kids before me, they said, don't ever play kid music for your kid. Just play the music you like.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And so my son has good musical. He never listened to any of them. That trash.

[Tim Pool]

It's so the idea.

[Libby Emmons]

And I never had to listen to it.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, think about content for children. This didn't exist 200 years ago, right? Kids. Kids were just. They learned from the adults around them.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Or they watched what their dad was watching.

[Tim Pool]

You know, There was no TV, there was nothing to watch. 200 years ago it was get up and you'd watch your dead farm and you'd watch the chickens and you'd go out and you do work when you were seven. Now you've got kids content which treats children like they're developmentally disabled. And instead of, instead of children of humans growing up and watching what adults do and how they behave, they're watching deranged quote unquote. Kids content that doesn't speak in completes. They don't speak in complete sentences. They speak very strangely. So a kid growing up 200 years ago would hear the dad say, ah, we got a storm coming in. We're gonna have to bring the animals in because this is gonna be a big one on. And they learn to talk like that. Now they hear there's a storm. Do you know what a storm is?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, only on the tv. I mean, unless that's what I'm saying.

[Tim Pool]

Parents do that and, and they're handing.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Tablets to these kids parents to talk that way too.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it's, it's not even about that.

[Libby Emmons]

Because maybe they do perpetual ancient.

[Tim Pool]

They give a tablet to a kid and the kid gets four hours of people talking like they're developmentally disabled.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And the kids are going to adopt these behaviors and it's going to stunt them and we're going to be dealing with a generation of these people. Who vote.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right. Not too long from now. No, you know, those are the people that have to take care of you. I'll be dead, but those are the people that have to take care of you as you get older.

[Tim Pool]

No one's going to take care of me. We were, we were talking to a contractor when we were building this place and, and we're talking about building a house and he was just like, well, you know, I recommend a single floor, whatever, you know, because when you're getting older, you're not gonna be able to climb upstairs, as most people say. And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, you don't understand. There is no reality that exists where I will be living on a single floor house because I can't climb the stairs, right. If I am 80 years old, I will have a four story house and there will not be a chairlift. I will drag myself up with ropes and crawling, groaning and screaming as I do it before I accept any of that. Single floor will really not never gonna happen.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And so, you know, I'll take care of myself as people should and I'll take care of my kids and they can live their own lives and I'm gonna build it for, for them.

[Libby Emmons]

And also, could you imagine like what you're like in your 30s or whatever and you're like planning to be very old and not being able to go upstairs. It's like, so I have to spend the rest of my life not going upstairs because maybe when I'm old I'll have difficulty with. Can I tell you, I think that's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

The old studio, the green room was. So when you pull up the driveway, it's, it's, if you go to the right, it's slightly uphill and then you're on the first floor and if you go to the left, it's slightly downhill. So when you pull in, you're actually at basement level. You then walk into the green room, which is a little bit three steps down, and then you have to walk up one flight of stairs and then you have to walk up a second flight of stairs to get to the old studio. We had many guests who are in their 30s who struggled with stairs with two flights of stairs. Dennis Kucinich ran up the stairs.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And he's like 70 something. Me, I would jump, I jumped two stairs at a time. I run full speed up, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I was actually surprised how many 30 year old individuals, people like 35, 36 commentators, personalities, would be using the railing and going really Slow as they. As they walk themselves to the stairs. I was like, are you kidding me?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Wow. Know, you know, I'm a fat ass. And I got up the stairs okay today.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you have no problem. But it's not all everybody, but, you know people. I was reading that it's just life.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It's just people getting soft. You know, back in the day, you know, you. You just. You don't. You. Stairs were not poisoned. Now they can make stairs poison to certain groups of people.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know what I heard and Phil, maybe you know this better than me. Young or just men in general typically don't train lower body. Body.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

All guys miss legs. I mean, you know, I'm just saying that's the. That's the thing going in the gym. Oh, you're gonna miss leg day. It's.

[Phil Labonte]

And it's super important to, like, if you do squats, if you build your.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Legs, your rest, your body, you should.

[Phil Labonte]

Do three exercises without question. You should do flat bench, you should do squats, and you should do deadlifts if you're just starting out lifting. If you do those three exercises, do one each. Each, you know, each day of the week or each every other day or whatever. Do that for three months. You're gonna have a massive change in your body from just three exercises. Big compound exercises like that, squats, deadlift and bench press and squats and deadlift are both extremely taxing on your lower body.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And. And they're training both of your biggest. Your biggest muscles. And you know what? The. You can increase naturally. You could. I've had many doctors on my show, urologists and things like that, that on my show, that if you train legs heavy, heavier than the average guy, that you can just. You can naturally build your testosterone level by a hundred. By a hundred points just by not skipping legs because they release. You release so much, so much testosterone and so much endorphins that regulate testosterone and. And the. And the firings of testosterone. But if you skip legs and you're just Johnny upper body guy, that your testosterone will be naturally lower because you skip legs.

[Phil Labonte]

I do. I do legs twice a week because I do deadlift. I do a deadlift day, which is basically, I'll do deadlifts, and then I'll do like hamstring curls. Sometimes I'll do thrusters for glutes, and then on. On quad day, I'll do squats, and then I'll do extensions, and usually I'll do like some kind of lunge or something like that, but I Do legs twice, twice a week.

[Tim Pool]

And I only have leg day.

[Phil Labonte]

That's because you skate all day or skater.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I don't, I can't, I can't flat bench anymore. So I incline, I just do incline bench. So, you know, I, I, I incline more than I flat bench.

[Phil Labonte]

That, that, the, the leg day is really, really important.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

If you have a Smith machine, there's no, there's no you excuse for you to. Because at that point, you know, if the squat goes ay on you, you can get out from underneath it. You know, squats, there's a, Squats sometimes get tricky.

[Tim Pool]

You know, there's a viral cross section of, of male thigh muscle mass at 30, 50, and 80. And it's of the average male.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And, and, yeah, and it's like by 80, there's nothing left but fat and there's no muscle. And this is why people struggle with stairs.

[Libby Emmons]

That's awful.

[Tim Pool]

And then they compare it to a runner of the same ages and the muscles basically the same the whole time. If you don't use it, you lose it.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I'm 16. I got pretty good quads. That's good. I got unbelievable calves. You'd die if you saw my calves.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, my calves suck. But I got, I, I have a quad sweep. You know, the, yeah. You know, and you, you, you have to do legs. You can't skip legs.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It. And it's so easy to skip to.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Because maybe like, man, those curls look good, those cable crossovers look good, but you got to get legs.

[Tim Pool]

When I was a kid, I just, I got my first pair of rollerblades at 7 years old. And then you start rollerblading and your legs just get fit.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Oh, yeah. I mean, and I, and your core and your balance and all that with skating, I mean, you know, people don't realize with just skating how, how much, how much you're building your core. Just your every.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Then staying stable and not falling down is, is, is, is building your core.

[Tim Pool]

And the other thing too, about skateboarding is that the ollie is not largely jump power. It's largely core power. The reason why men can ollie Ali is, is the jump technique in skateboarding. Ali. Men can ollie higher than women in skateboarding. Not necessarily because they have better fast, more fast twitch muscle, which they do, but because men's center of gravity rests higher, what happens is you jump off the ground and then you pull your legs up to your chest.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And because your center of gravity is higher, you can pull your legs up higher than a female can when she tries to do the same thing. So women not only have less fast which muscle, they require more jumping power to clear the same obstacle. Thus it is much harder for them to get on obstacles.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And skateboarding, we were talking about guys versus girls, men versus women on sports and the grip strength and hunter and gathering and all that kind of stuff. But in your specific sport, with, with, with skateboarding, and I'm not familiar with it, like the number one guy in the world compared to the number one woman in the world, is it just a vast difference on their ability and skill set and the kind of tricks they can do and the height and stuff like that?

[Tim Pool]

A 12 year old boy is better than the best seasoned female pro skateboarder. A probably a 10 year old boy is better than the best female seasoned pro skater. In fact, fact, there's a 12 year old, 12 year old boy competing at the highest levels of men's skateboarding. And it's just. Look, man, you know, I think the thing about, you know, we talked about this before, like when you watch women's tennis, if you don't know anything about tennis. I watch women's tennis and I can't tell the difference between that or men's. They're like, but the ball is going faster. And I'm like, dude, I have no idea.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

I see people playing tennis. I suppose if you didn't know anything about skateboarding, you might feel that way. But I'm fairly confident that if I showed you the best female skateboarder and the best male skateboarder, any random person who's never seen skateboarding before pick it out, they'd clearly be like, wow. Because the dudes like let's talk about vert skating half pipes. Like it is only in the past couple of years women started doing rotations. The so to be fair, the first 540 I think was maybe like, like 15 to 16 years ago. The first male 540 was in the late 70s. The first male 720, which is two full spins was done in the early, early 80s. The first 900 rotation, two and a half spins by Tony Hawk in 1999. The first female 900 was just last year, 25 years later for, for a female to finally hit that, that.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

What are we at now, like 12:16. That's where they're at now, 12:60.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think Mitchie Brusco. Is it Mitchie who did the 1260? I think it was Mitchie. And no one really cared. It was kind of crazy. He landed a 1260 on a skateboard and it's just like nobody really said anything.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

It's a natural progression.

[Tim Pool]

Then that's three and a half spins. Yeah. If you watch male vert skateboarding, every trick they do, save for some where they're just turning around is going to be spinning with the board flipping underneath them and they're catching it. If you watch women, they go up and down a couple times, right? Yeah, no joke. They go up and down a couple times. And I mean that no disrespect. There, there are some female runs, they're starting to do more five forties, which is, it's, it's one and a half spins on a half pipe. So you go up, you spin around, you know, 540°. There's no question. And, and the funny thing is they keep making this argument in sports that it's after puberty. So they're like, if, if a male individual went through transition before puberty, then they don't need to qualify in any way. No, the first 1080 spin was done I think by like, like an 11 year old boy or a 12 year old boy.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

So this is way before puberty.

[Tim Pool]

Way before puberty, right? Or I mean, just before or. Yeah, but if you compare a 10 year old boy to a 10 year old girl, it is, it is. There's no question, right? There's none whatsoever. You're gonna be like, dang right. The, the skill and ability is, is, it's, it's insane.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Anyway, let's go to super chats. In Rumble Rants, my friends. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Become a member of Rumble Premium. Go to Timcast premium.com that will automatically set you up to sign up with promo code TIM10. It gives you 10 bucks off an annual membership and we're gonna have that uncensored call in show coming up at 10. And oh boy, do we have something not so family friendly for all of you in that uncensored portion of the show. So I'd say you don't want to miss it, but this story is really gross and maybe you do.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh no.

[Tim Pool]

But I still recommend you subscribe and watch the show anyway because it's going to be fun if, if you're prepared for the harsh realities of modern American politics and what it's turned into.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You know, there was something I was going to talk to you about and I, and I'm not. I hope that this isn't. I kind of know the rules of radio and things like that a little bit and hope this Isn't out of line, but you opened yesterday, and I know they're a good sponsor of yours, and you opened the show up yesterday with a sponsor that protects your mortgage and your identity and all that. Okay. And again, I'm. I guess maybe I'm throwing a plug to your sponsor. I don't know. But anyway, as you were going through what it does for you and all the. How easy it is to steal your identity and go down to the courthouse and get a second mortgage and a HELOC and all that kind of deal, there's a guy, and you might want to. You guys might want to research him. He's. He's not unbelievable. He's a. He's. He's really a bad person. His name's Matt Cox, and he did 17 years in federal prison. He's from Tampa. And he. He has his. Now he has his own podcast and his own whole. He has his own YouTube channel and whatever. It's Matt Cox. But he specifically did exactly what your service did. He go. He would go in and create a fake.

[Tim Pool]

You know, what. What they protect against.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yes, what. What your clients protect against is exactly what he did. Taking their homes, remortgaging their homes. You know, getting HELOC on their homes. He would first steal their identity, and then he would go in and create documentation and state bank statements and all this kind of stuff. He's out now, and he. And he has. You know, I'm not trying to promote. I'm promoting his stuff, but he's like one of the number one identity theft guys that stole people's homes from them. Them. And it's. It's exactly what your client offers. And. And so I was like.

[Tim Pool]

Protection, you mean?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, the protection of what your client offers the p. The bad. The bad people.

[Tim Pool]

They don't offer to steal homes.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No, they offered it. They offer you to. So that Matt. Matt Cox can't steal your home because he's still. And it was. It was. It ended up being on American Greed, you know, that show on. I forgot what network it's on, but it's American Greed, and it's a. Stacy Quiche, I think, is the one that did narration. And it's about guys who. People that have been real greedy over the. Over the years and stolen bunches of money and stuff like that. They did a whole special on this guy named Matt Cox. And so I was. As. I was listening to you talk about your client, but, like, man, people really need to take note that that does happen in real life a lot A lot.

[Tim Pool]

Let's grab some super chats before we do, my friend. Smash the like button. Share the show, as I said. And also, it's 311 day, so why don't you put on beautiful disaster and enjoy this wonderful holiday for those that listen to good music.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Today's my mom's birthday.

[Tim Pool]

That's a good day.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Happy birthday. All right.

[Tim Pool]

Shane H. Wilder says, happy belated birthday, Tim. The loss of Jamie White doesn't seem like just some burglary gone wrong. APD sucks their job, so I wouldn't trust them to tell us what really happened if they knew. I believe the story is that he was trying to stop a carjacking. Is that what it was? They were breaking into his car and.

[Libby Emmons]

He tried to stop breaking into his car is what I saw today.

[Tim Pool]

And then they shot him. Yep. But I. Look, guys, that doesn't mean much, right when. If someone is. If there's a journalist who's investigating something, and I'm not saying this story specifically, but how do you think they would take that person out? Do you think they would just walk up to him and yell, this is for the government. Don't investigate us. Bang, bang, bang. Or would they be like, hey, you give me that car? Oh, I'm a regular old burglar, right?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Exactly.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's go. Let's grab some more super chats. Jason Dixon says Timcast.com equals more money to do good stuff. Timcast.com Discord means you showing up plus you showing up more equals more money to do more. Cool. Ish with. How about you spend some of your time with. With us for the first time in. In the Discord. I. We. I am in the Discord. But y'all should. Oh, I think he's talking to everybody else. You guys should join the Discord server so that you're not just passive listeners of the news. You actively get involved. If you've been wondering yourself, what can I do? I don't even know where to begin. You start by meeting people. So you go to timcast.com, you click join us, you join the Discord community, and instantly whatever you say is seen by 20,000 plus individuals. So if you're like, I got a really good idea, you could go on X and tweet it with a hashtag and hopefully somebody sees it. You could respond to somebody, hope that they see, see it. Or you can join the Discord community where you're instantly in that chat room with tens of thousands of people and then they're going to argue with you and say, your eyes. Your idea is not very good. You should rethink it or maybe.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Maybe agree with you.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe a great idea.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Maybe.

[Tim Pool]

And they're going to be like, dude, that is the greatest idea I've ever heard. How come we've never heard of you? And then you'll say, you have now. All right, real John from Naples says Bubba army representing real John from Naples.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

A great listener. Thank you, John.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. What do we got here? Beavis McLean says, Tim, you were the inspiration for my addition to the culture war. If you want the most hilarious stories from the military service, look for Camo comedy podcast. That's two M's in camo. Find out how many jeeps you have to borrow to see Bob Hope live in Vietnam. Oh, geez. That sounds like a good idea. That sounds fun. I bet those are good stories. I bet you have a lot of stories, too. Maybe. Maybe like a sitcom. All right, Jacob Bali says, let's say the Supreme Court is partisan and skewers the Constitution in a way that isn't constitutional. Article 2, Section 1 says the President has a duty to uphold the law. Would he be obligated to oppose the Supreme Court crisis? Yep. Yeah. And that's the challenge we're facing right now. Five, six, two.

[Phil Labonte]

Mike.

[Tim Pool]

Mike A says Tim never reads these over on the rumble rants as you read it. That's right. Let's go. What is this? We'll grab this one. Yaquindia says celebrities threaten to leave because they want to be begged to stay. And then when nobody does, they leave like kids. Libertarian hawk says, Holy ish. I did not even recognize Bubba Love Sponge. I am a Tampa native, too.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Well, thank you. I don't know if that's good or bad.

[Tim Pool]

Force name change says Canadian Exports to the US are 20% of our GDP. US exports to Canada are 1.3% of GDP. If tariff war halves our prospective revenues perspective, we lose 10% GDP. You lose less than 1. Doug is a liberal F boy. Well, there you go. What's the hands? Hans says technological pacifiers is tablet parenting.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yep. Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

No tablets, no phones.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

That's a great name, Tab. Tablet parenting. That's a great name.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I'm. I. I am disgusted.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Like you said.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You were going to expose your. Your daughter to drafts and polar bears and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

ABC nature documentary.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I mean, she'll be so far, so more worldly and better. And then the person that's, you know, thrown a tablet in front of them and that's their parent for four Hours.

[Tim Pool]

Allison is reading stories to her reading books. And I have been explaining math and, and dimensions and physics. So I have. She already understands two, right? No, she, she's two weeks.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Oh, I thought she was two years old.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You really starting early?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

She's gonna be.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

So I'm reading Willa Cather to my son because I was like, oh, I'll just read him whatever I'm reading.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Like a little audience.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So my daughter already understands space time and the curvature of space time and how it actually creates gravity.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

At two weeks.

[Tim Pool]

At two weeks. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm, I, I, I'm assuming she understands it, right. Because I said it. Why wouldn't she know?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Why wouldn't she know?

[Tim Pool]

She can't look at things, but you know. Right. She's just looking around all crazy like it.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Wouldn't it be amazing if you could really understand what they're, they're, what they're figuring out in their figuring out process?

[Tim Pool]

My, my thought is, at two weeks, a lot of Americans make this assumption that if that child. Children are stupid and they're not.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No.

[Tim Pool]

A computer that's brand new is not a useless computer. It just hasn't had nothing's installed in it.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

You don't wait until the computer's full of random junk data from the Internet before you install the video game on it. You get started immediately. So my thoughts are, are I'm not going to sit here and be like, well, she can't talk, so there's no way she's going to understand any basic. No, no, we're going to, we're going to do sign language. Babies can do simple sign language. So if she can't doesn't have the muscular strength you can do. There's a lot of stuff for parenting about how you can teach the baby to make hand gestures so they can say what they want or things like that. And baby is going to be learning all the basic math at once. 1.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

She's going to learn.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

They're little sponges.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. Quadratic equations by 2. Advanced mathematics, physics, calculus, etc, at the same time. You know, so then she'll enter school and she'll be like, I don't need any of this.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I was just getting ready to say you could have an issue at school. I mean, just because she's going to be so far advanced, she probably won't.

[Tim Pool]

Go, to be honest.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Schools are a waste of time.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

I, and I believe in homeschooling in the right situation.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I. I am. My experience with school has led me to cheer for the destruction of the Department of Education, which we didn't really get into, but, you know, they order all the employees to leave by six and not come back.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

And it's just like, look, man, schools are miserable places and their daycare centers for a destroyed economy where both parents are forced to work because of the nature of the liberal economic order and how it destroyed families and their household. And it should be. And as it has always been, that you can have 2.5 kids and just the dad works.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Used to be.

[Tim Pool]

Used to be.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

And that's when school was okay.

[Tim Pool]

But the problem is now that both parents have to work, school is daycare.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

And so parents are like, I have no choice. And then you're giving your child to the state to be indoctrinated with garbage. Nonsense. I am playing that game. Let's go. Richard Slammer says. Well, tim, I've tried 10 times. Super chat. What I feel about the Fat POS. Who is your guest tonight? Oh, geez.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Pool]

Know I have anti. I'm. I'm pretty sure you've never super chatted about Bubba Love Sponge. Or if you did, I've had no reason to read it because why would I read a super chat about Bubba when he wasn't here?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right? I have. I have. I have a lot of trolls too.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah. People that really hate me.

[Tim Pool]

Well, then OJP says if green card holders can't use a second, they can't use the first. Interesting. Interesting. I did see one person argue that green card holders are not. What's the right word I'm thinking of?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

No. Green card holders are not subject under the provisions of two two one section subsection I.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Well, we. We went through that. There was only that one exception and that would.

[Tim Pool]

It was talking about visas and documentation. And I think the argument is that green cards are further documentation.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And that's the argument the Trump administration may be making. We'll see what happens in court. Brandon Rodriguez says, Phil, I love Destiny 2. What class do you play?

[Phil Labonte]

I got all three, but I kind of main Warlock usually.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Like, who doesn't play all three? You know what I mean?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

My first character was a warlock because it was. It was described poorly to me. Otherwise I would have played a hunter. And then, you know, you max out. Warlock. Then you do Hunter Titans born boring.

[Phil Labonte]

I agree. I don't like the Titan jumps. The Titan jump is. Is annoying. The. The warlock and the. The hunter have the best jumps. So.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. Hunters. Yeah, the. The hunters triple jump. Right. Well, the Warlocks like the air dash, which is fun, but the triple jumps make for better glitch. Glitch hopping.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And reaching far away places. And cheesing. And cheesing's allowed.

[Phil Labonte]

Cheesing is allowed?

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. If the game function exists, you're allowed to do it.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

Just because they're like. Well, we. There's no honor in doing that. Wait, dude, we're playing it.

[Phil Labonte]

There was. There was a cheese that the. That the developers actually made into an actual thing in the game. I forget what it. What it was, but there was a glitch that people had found and they were just like, oh. And every. So many people did it and was so popular that they actually made it into something in the game.

[Tim Pool]

So for those that don't know what that means. Cheesing is in a video game. Let's say there's a big dragon and you're a knight and you're supposed to fight the dragon by blocking the fire with your shield and then swinging a sword at the dragon. And then someone eventually finds out that if you jump on this rock to the left, the dragon for some reason can't throw fire at you. So you can keep hacking away without having to worry about the fire. That's called cheesing. You're. You found a way to beat the game in a way that makes it very easy and the developers didn't intend. That's the game. I got no problem.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Maybe the developers made that. That gimmick so that people would be a little cult like thing. People would find it.

[Tim Pool]

Well to be fair, they end up. Yeah, they patch them out.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Oh, that's.

[Tim Pool]

So when they early Destiny, bro. You played Destiny 1 when it first came out. How much fun was that when you could just farm all the engram engrams. And then they were like, you're having too much fun. Stop. And then they disabled it and I'm like stupid.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

So like on an update or something, they'll take it out. Y. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Back when you could use sparrow, you could use the sparrow to go through walls. Remember that?

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. The wall glitches.

[Tim Pool]

And then there was. You could go to areas that were in game that weren't yet get released story wise. So there were actually parts of the map that were blocked off and we would break through the walls by glitching and then going and exploring the future, you know, the future expansions really. And then they were like, stop having fun. World of Warcraft we used to do this all day, dude. World of Warcraft Vanilla was the best because there was so much world that was undeveloped that you weren't supposed to get to. But if you knew how to play.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You could, you could get to the, to the undercover part.

[Tim Pool]

You know, you could go under Stormwind, under the main city. You could go into areas that were on the map, but you didn't have. Didn't actually have an entrance. And then the developers were like, stop having fun. And they patched and got rid of it all. And now it's not fun now it's. The game sucks.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I know some people still play it that are listening right now.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

What are your favorite games like that you guys play now?

[Phil Labonte]

I play Destiny 2 mostly. I. I've always liked Halo. So like I've got Halo like the clad.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Hasn't Halo been around for what, 20?

[Libby Emmons]

Still good though. Halo is fun.

[Phil Labonte]

The original Halo came out in the odds sometime. I don't remember. I personally think Halo 3 was kind of like the apex of Halo. I got into Halo like a lot when they started doing multiplayer during Halo 2. So I've been a fan of that game forever. But I like first person shooters. So Halo and call it. I play Call of Duty some. Not a ton. But yeah, mostly Destiny. Right.

[Tim Pool]

I like Destiny 1. PvP was way better than Destiny 2.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Because the. What they didn't like about it was that everybody just eventually started using shotguns. But come on, you would, you would, you would slide shotgun blast. And that was the most fun. And my KD ratio, like, was it KD kill death? It's been a while since I played was always super high. And then they were like, no, we're gonna get rid of that. And then Destiny 2, they were like, we're gonna nerf shotguns and we're gonna make it. So everyone's using primary and now it's like distant stuff. And I'm like, whatever. I guess it's still fun. But you know, I liked running around with shotguns. It was always, always fun. Now it's like special ammo drops and everyone runs full speed to get silly. Silly. Let's grab a couple more of these chats here. Alex Smith says, I guess you could say America is a melting pot of different dystopias. Indeed. Indeed.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

But then Trump won, so being nice. I think it's being a little out.

[Tim Pool]

Of touch, you know, I don't know. Trump won, so we'll see what happens. Navy sooner says Khalil has graduated. He is now trespassing on private property. He has committed a crime. Send him home. I don't think he graduated. I'm pretty.

[Libby Emmons]

He finished.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, nobody didn't graduate. I'm pretty sure they reported that he did not graduate.

[Libby Emmons]

Really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he finished his graduate studies.

[Tim Pool]

Fox News said that he finished the courses without graduating or something. Something. But I could be wrong. Yeah, they said that he completed his studies before enrolling in Columbia, where he earned a master's degree in December 2024. Oh, okay. So I guess he did.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, a master's International studies.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You went to Columbia?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, graduate school.

[Tim Pool]

All right, everybody.

[Libby Emmons]

It took longer than a year to get out.

[Tim Pool]

We're going to go to that uncensored call in show and you're, you're. I mean, you probably want to hear the story we're going to talk about, but you're going to be mad that you did and you're going to be really angry with the state of modern politics, but it's okay. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, my birthday was last Sunday, so if you'd like to get me a gift. Join Rumble Premium using promo code TIM10. Not only will you get to watch the uncensored call in show, you'll get mug club. You get premium content from Dr. Disrespect and so much more. And we've got big, big news coming. We are taking the world by storm. Rumble's got to win. You can also join our discord [e-mail] to get involved in our community where you can actually call into the show.

[Libby Emmons]

Show.

[Tim Pool]

You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast. Bubba. Do you want to shout anything out?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

No, I appreciate you having me. All my, all of my stuff pretty much is at the bubble army across the board and. What, What a what. What an honor to be here with a, with a legend, my friend.

[Tim Pool]

It was been an honor to have you. You're the legend.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

You're 96. Yeah. Back in the day, Julie Jumping Perez, Bad boy Bill Tim spinning showmer.

[Tim Pool]

So my, my hit mix five, my buddy Andy's here who's from Chicago too. And as soon as you said B96, he started yelling out though.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah, B96. Oh yeah, Perez. Yeah, Julian Jumping Perez. That was my boy. He actually ran for an alderman office in Chicago. I don't know that he won. But he, but he, but he, he ran for an office in Chicago.

[Tim Pool]

Right on, man. Well, we're going to be going to that uncensored show, but before we do. Libby, what's up?

[Libby Emmons]

I'm Libby Evans with the Post Millennial. You can check out everything that we're doing over there. The post millennial.com the post millennial.com human events.com and you could sign up for my newsletter which is is the postmillennial.com Libby and you can follow me on X Libyamons. Thanks.

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Libby Killed it tonight. I'm impressed with Libby.

[Tim Pool]

She's great, isn't she?

[Bubba the Love Sponge]

Yeah. Very, very, very knowledgeable. You're welcome.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that remains on Twitch. You can subscribe to my page there. I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. New record just dropped on January 31st. It's titled Anti Fragile. You can check out all the the whole record on YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, Deezer, Amazon Music. Don't forget the left lane is for crying.

[Tim Pool]

We'll see you all [e-mail] Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.