VP Says No Unity With Democrats Celebrating Charlie Kirk Assassination, Left Confirmed w/ Sloe Jack

Summary

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Timcast IRL: "VP Says No Unity With Democrats Celebrating Charlie Kirk Assassination, Left Confirmed w/ Sloe Jack"

Date: September 16, 2025
Host: Tim Pool and Timcast Panel
Main Guest: Sloe Jack
Key Panelists: Tate Brown, Shane Cashman, Phil Labonte

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Episode Overview

This intense, wide-ranging episode focuses on the aftermath of the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Tim Pool and his panel dissect national unity (or the lack thereof) in the wake of the killing, the left's and right's responses, political violence, tech/media narrative manipulation, and the role of fringe online communities. The conversation is raw, emotional, and confrontational, reflecting the deepening polarization in the US.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. No Unity With Those Celebrating Political Violence

[01:11]–[04:37]

• VP J.D. Vance filled in for Charlie Kirk after his assassination and declared:
  • “There will be no unity with those who are celebrating the death, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.”
  • Vance points out that while not all Democrats are to blame, many on the left are celebrating, excusing, or lying about Kirk’s murder.
• Media & Narrative Shifts:
  • Left initially celebrated, but shifted blame to right-wing figures like Nick Fuentes, even as Axios and mainstream reports debunked these claims.
  • Motive allegedly tied to transgender ideology, according to multiple sources.

Tim Pool [03:31]:
“Mainstream moderate liberals are defending the suspected shooter, obfuscating his ideology, covering it up, and lying about the engravings on the bullets because they realize they actually support this.”

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2. Leftist Rhetoric and Mainstreaming of Political Bloodlust

[11:40]–[19:00]

• Vance’s Statement Analyzed:
  • He was careful to distinguish between violent fringe and ordinary liberals/Democrats.
  • The panel challenges the idea of unity with those who justify or minimize political violence.
• Examples of Incendiary Rhetoric:
  • Liberal streamer Destiny blamed Trump’s presidency and suggested violence would continue unless conservatives appeased the left.
  • Panel calls this posture “terrorism,” (i.e., using fear to alter political expression).
• Workplace Responses:
  • Discussion on the appropriateness of firing people who openly cheer political killings.
  • Shift from “cancel culture” to what the panel calls “accountability.”

Sloe Jack [14:28]:
“People are dead, people have been shot...They've just demonstrated that they're done with us, you know, and if they want people like Charlie gone, imagine what they want for someone who's got similar beliefs like you or me or whatever.”

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3. The Shooter’s Ideological Alignment and Media Manipulation

[20:32]–[23:27]

• Shooter’s Background:
  • Motivated by gender ideology, highly aligned with the cultural mainstream of the Democratic party.
  • Not a “fringe” Antifa extremist, but someone whose ideology is said to be widely accepted on the (mainstream) left.
• Media Obfuscation Tactics:
  • Use of out-of-context quotes; deliberate reframing of motives; memetic manipulation.

Tim Pool [21:12]:
“Charlie Kirk was nice. He did not believe these psychotic things they're lying about...As far as we can tell, the only motivating factor was gender ideology, which of course is an ideology aligned with every single Democrat in Congress. This is not fringe.”

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4. The Role of Online Extremism, Culture, and Radicalization

[39:38]–[57:35]

• Transgender/Accelerationist Online Cults:
  • Panel discusses “death cults” online, with Discord servers and social networks where plans are allegedly discussed and killings celebrated.
  • FBI reportedly investigating accounts with foreknowledge of the Kirk shooting.

Shane Cashman [39:51]:
“He's a possessed muppet [referring to Destiny]...Who bailed out the arsonists in 2020? Who ignored David Dorn getting shot in the head? The left was cheering on all that destruction.”

• Grooming and Radicalization of Atomized Youth:
  • Sloe Jack and Shane Cashman express concern about young, isolated individuals being targeted and radicalized in online communities.

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5. Media & NGOs: Data Bias and Narrative Laundering

[42:07]–[47:48]

• How Violence Statistics Are Manipulated:
  • Tim Pool and panel break down how groups like the ADL and left-aligned NGOs classify different types of violence to pin the majority of blame on the right.
  • Satirical proposal to create a right-leaning NGO to “flip the script.”

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6. Political Violence as an Ideological Tool

[48:45]–[65:11]

• Danger of “Punch a Nazi” Justifications:
  • Concern over how “Nazi” and “fascist” labels have been applied so broadly that moderate conservatives (like Kirk) are dehumanized and made into targets.
  • Cheering for violence seen as a form of virtual martyrdom among leftist radicals.

Phil Labonte [54:22]: "When you say, I believe that violence should be used and I endorse using violence to modify people's political expression. That is terrorism. And is exactly what Destiny's saying."

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7. Conspiracy Theories and Misdirection after the Assassination

[66:16]–[79:34]

• Alternative Narratives:
  • Blaming Israel, “deep state”, or even right-wing actors circulates quickly, diverting attention from evidence at hand.
• Discussion on Skepticism and Manipulation:
  • While remaining open to skepticism (citing historical government cover-ups), most panelists agree the evidence overwhelmingly supports the shooter’s ideological alignment with the left.

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8. Civil Strife and the Risk of Escalation

[82:43]–[91:51]

• Current Landscape:
  • Discussion broadens to the idea that America is in a period of “civil strife” or “ideological war,” not (yet) a full civil war but with significant, repeated outbreaks of political violence.

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• J.D. Vance (via Pool) [11:40]:
  "I'm desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend. I want it so badly... We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable."

• Tate Brown [12:16]:
  “No unity. It's so refreshing seeing J.D. Vance say this ... One side is evil and has demonstrated that we should be killed for our beliefs, and then the other side is just saying, let's have a debate.”

• Destiny (quoted by Tim, referencing Piers Morgan appearance) [25:37]: "If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term."

• Phil Labonte [31:34]:
  "That's just terrorism. He's endorsing terrorism. He's saying that people should be afraid of being killed because of their politics. That is what terrorism is."

• Shane Cashman [86:01]: “It's human nature. Yeah, well, the 60s in this country, we're going through it again right now.”

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Important Timestamps by Segment

• [01:11] – Tim’s introduction: J.D. Vance’s “no unity with those celebrating Charlie Kirk’s assassination.”
• [09:08] – Shane: The rise of “American death cults;” radicalization parallels to historical events.
• [12:16] – Panel reaction to Vance’s statement on unity (or lack thereof).
• [15:10] – Reflection on Kirk’s moderation and approach to debate vs. others like Milo Yiannopoulos.
• [21:12] – Tim: The shooter’s ideology is mainstream Democrat, not fringe left.
• [25:37] – Destiny’s quote on “Trump should not have been president.”
• [31:34] – Philabonte defines Destiny’s rhetoric as “terrorism.”
• [39:38] – Shane and Tim: Changing narratives after the assassination, Democrats’ internal conflicts.
• [54:39] – Panel on radical online grooming and Discord, Reddit, Roblox.
• [66:29] – Tim & Shane: Debunking alternative (Israel/deep state/right wing) conspiracy theories.
• [82:43] – Tim: Modern civil strife and what “civil war” could look like in America.
• [86:05] – Shane: Parallels to the political violence of the 1960s (Malcolm X, etc.)
• [91:51] – Tate: “They don’t kill Charlie Kirk if they think they’re winning. They kill him when they’re completely demoralized…”
• [99:55] – Panel explores possible leaks/collaboration leading to Kirk’s assassination and how “simple” explanations are often more likely than grand conspiracies.

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Episode Conclusion

The panel concludes that the American political landscape has fundamentally changed, with no possibility of unity so long as open celebration or justification of political violence persists. The panel issues strong warnings about the dangers of radicalization (both online and off), calls out perceived media dishonesty, and identifies the threat of further escalation. The specter of “civil strife” is no longer hypothetical but, in the panel’s eyes, a daily reality.

The final moments include lighter post-show banter, acknowledgements of fans, and commentary on how deeply fractured the American information and political ecosystems have become.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a sobering, often heated breakdown of the fallout from Charlie Kirk’s assassination. The Timcast crew and guests scrutinize the response from both political sides, the role of media spin, and the risk of further violence and polarization in American society. Notable moments include J.D. Vance’s uncompromising stand on unity, sharp criticisms of left-leaning media and internet radicals, and a candid warning that the US is in a period of political civil strife. The tone is impassioned, sometimes strident—a reflection of the gravity of current events.

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Transcript

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[Tim Pool]

Today Vice President J.D. vance filled in for Charlie Kirk on his show in the noon hour on Rumble. And it was an amazing show with many interviews and in it near the end, JD Vance says there will be no unity with those who are celebrating the death the assassination of Charlie Kirk. He wanted to describe this problem among many Democrats, but not all, he says, but many where they scream vitriol, celebrate death, call for more assassinations. And indeed they still are. And not just that. After it became apparent that Charlie Kirk was particularly beloved nationally with football teams, baseball teams, offering moments of silence in his honor, the left changed their narrative. With many prominent liberals remaining silent out of fear. They begin to emerge saying in fact it was Nick Fuentes and the Gripers who killed Charlie Kirk for in fact not being far right enough. Even now Axios is debunking these lies from prominent mainstream middle of the road Democrat personalities. And that is the scary thing about what we are seeing. You see, they say the right is responsible for all the violence. The right is much more dangerous. They go on TV and say but here's what they're doing. They're saying that some crackpot white supremacist who lives in the woods is the same thing as Charlie Kirk. When in fact Charlie Kirk would denounce in two seconds and in fact preached a race neutral country and even called black children a gift from God. But they'll lie. They'll say Charlie was also a white supremacist, therefore all of the right is bad. Now in the inverse mainstream moderate liberals are defending the suspected shooter, obfuscating his ideology, covering it up, and lying about the engravings on the bullets because they realize they actually support this. It seems the motivation for the shooter may be transgender ideology. At least that's what six independent sources, according to Axios, have stated that he was a lover, that his lover was trans, and that was probably the motivator. The governor says he was leftist, radicalized, he was an ideologue. Mainstream Democrats support gender ideology, and it appears this was the motivation for the killing that is this, this individual, the suspect in question right now, Cash Patel, says he's confessed on Discord. This individual is closer to mainstream Democrat than many people want to believe. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we've got many more stories. Some of them are particularly brutal. We've got one of a liberal who effectively states, well, actually, I'll give you the quote, a prominent liberal streamer. Destiny said, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, president, he says, I'm sorry, I gotta make sure I get this right. If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term. He's telling you if you go and vote for who you think should be president, you should expect to die. You should expect your friends to die, your leaders to die, and it's your fault. That's what he's saying. That's how insane it is getting in this country. So we're gonna talk about that. Sorry for making this one a bit longer. We've got a lot of stories to break through in terms of what's going on with this investigation, this story. And did you guys know that two men were caught trying to plant a bomb on a Fox News truck in Utah? It's getting crazy out there.

[Slow Jack]

Utah's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

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[Slow Jack]

What's going on? What's going on, people? Thanks for having me on. I feel like overdressed, my cap on. Everyone else is looking nice in the black T shirts. Black, actually. You got the suit on, mate. Looking good. Yeah, like the penguin out here. Hello.

[Tim Pool]

You know, taking it seriously.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, who are you? What do you.

[Slow Jack]

Do I make music. Where do I look? Do I look at the camera? Do I look at any. Just look around. I'll look up there. What's going on, people? I'm Slow Jack. I make music for a living, but online I'm known for just saying stuff, talking shit basically in an Aussie accent, being funny, mate. That's basically it. Thanks for having me on.

[Tim Pool]

Right on, Tate.

[Slow Jack]

Cool, man.

[Tim Pool]

The producer is here.

[Tate Brown]

What's going on, everybody? Tate Brown here. Happy to be here.

[Shane Cashman]

I'm Shane Cashman. I think destiny needs an exorcism. Tonight at 10, I'll be going live with Inverted World Live. I'm going to be talking about the American death cult. Terror cells, accelerationism, gleeful demons. And after all that, I probably get into how NASA has banned Chinese nationals and alien life form that might be going out of a meteorite.

[Tim Pool]

On my. On my new YouTube channel, which is at Tim Pool, I made a video called It's Time to bring Back Exorcisms.

[Shane Cashman]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And it's actually for. It's a small channel, it's brand new, it's got like 35,000 subs, but it's 60,000 views already in the video with everyone being like, yep, yeah, you can't deny it. There's everywhere.

[Slow Jack]

There's ghouls everywhere around. You see them, see them walk around the street, man.

[Philabonte]

I tend to think that Des needs law enforcement.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, I think exorcism plus law enforcement.

[Tim Pool]

So like that you should be the one doing it.

[Shane Cashman]

I'm ready.

[Tim Pool]

Hello everybody.

[Philabonte]

My name is Philabonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the news from PBS.org JD Vance says national Unity is impossible with those Celebrating Charlie Kirk's Killing Vice President Vance said Monday while hosting Charlie Kirk's radio show that he is desperate for national unity after the conservative political activists killing, but that finding common ground with people who celebrated the assassination of his friend is impossible. The Republican Vice President filled in as host the Charlie Kirk show from his ceremonial office in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building next to the White House. The livestream of the two hour program was broadcast in the White House Press Briefing Room and featured a series of appearances by White House and administrative officials who knew the 31 year old Kirk. Vance, who transported Kirk's body home from Utah to Arizona aboard Air Force Two last week, opened by saying that he was filling in for somebody who cannot be filled in for, but I'll do my best. In his closing remarks, Vance criticized what he said were lies about Kirk that he blamed for the killing. He also promised that the Trump administration will act to stop anyone who will kill another person because of their words. I'm desperate for a country to be I'm desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend. I want it so badly. They'll tell you a difficult truth. We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable. Well, here's the challenge, Mr. Vice President, with all due respect, I do agree with there are many prominent middle of the road liberals associated with prominent mainstream liberal organizations who have been putting out lies. They've been making little comic strips flooding the Internet with lies to trick the left and liberals, the moderates that the assassin of Charlie Kirk was a groiper. They are framing Nick Fuentes and I think their strategy was Nick Fuentes is kind of a boogeyman even to conservatives. So if they blame him, conservatives will just say okay, which is not the case. No one's going to do that. That's not true. And there's even an article from Axios debunking the lies, what we believe to be true. As of now, according to Cash Patel, the governor of Utah, Axios is reporting with six individual sources. Mind you, the media has no problem reporting things with a single anonymous source. But this time they have six, saying the motivation for the assassination likely was the shooter's transgender lover, and the left is lying about it. So when JD Vance tries to be diplomatic and I respect it, saying we can't have unity with those that are celebrating the assassination of Kirk, my question then becomes, and for everyone here is, can we have unity with those that are lying to cover up the assassin's motive to justify the killing of Charlie Kirk?

[Slow Jack]

No.

[Tate Brown]

No unity. It's so refreshing seeing J.D. vance say this because the. The line from the GOP, not the entire GOP, but from a lot of GOP ratchets, like right off the rip, was, guys, peace and unity. Let's all come together like this is a battle between good and evil. And it was very vague. It was not precise whatsoever. So it's so refreshing that Trump and Vance have gotten up here and straightened out everyone's rhetoric here because it's like, okay, sure, good and evil. That's. That's downstream from left versus right. That's exactly what's going on here. One side is evil and has demonstrated that we should be killed for our believes, and then the other side is just saying, let's have a debate. So it's just so refreshing to see this because, I mean, there were so many senators and congressmen that came out and did the whole peace and unity rhetoric.

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[Tate Brown]

It's like just not, not precise and not pointed to what's going on at all.

[Slow Jack]

All that stuff's out the window at that point, mate. You see, you know, people like, oh, but what about coming together? It's like, mate, people are dead, people have been shot. I'm just, I just look at it. I don't understand how we even got here. And it, mate, I don't get upset much, man, but like, just as a dude, I don't like seeing people get shot and just, I just don't understand why people, it's. Why it's such a conundrum, mate. They've just demonstrated that they're done with us, you know, and if they want people like Charlie gone, imagine what they want for someone who's got similar beliefs like you or me or whatever.

[Tim Pool]

Well, this is, this is a, an important point. Charlie Kirk was a moderate, traditional conservative. What do you think that means for everybody else?

[Slow Jack]

Well, he was the guy who wanted to have a conversation. They took out the guy. The only thing, the only true guy, or there were many, but he's the main guy. Just wanted to talk, mate. He went straight to the uni, straight to the colleges, whatever you call them. We call them uniques. But went straight to the source, mate, like a boss, like a rock star, mate.

[Tim Pool]

And with all due respect to Milo Yiannopoulos, who acknowledges he's not the nice guy. Milo, Milo did his college tours and he was snooty and snarky and snapped back at these people. Yeah, Charlie told some. He didn't insult these people. He would say, God bless you and I love you.

[Slow Jack]

See that tweet where it was like, it was like you took out the nice guy. Now you got Milo.

[Tim Pool]

I would love to See Milo return to the college tour. We asked him to do it and he went, I'm 40.

[Slow Jack]

40.

[Philabonte]

It's worth pointing out though, like, cuz. Because there are people on the left that are gonna try to act as if what Vice President Vance said was blanket statement about the whole left and all of the Democrats. And he was like you said, he was precise. He specifically was talking about the far left, the crazies. And he did acknowledge there are, there are Democrats that are, that are, that are not out of their mind. There are Democrats that do not endorse violence and stuff. And so it's worth pointing that out only because there are going to be people and you're seeing it on X all day long. Vance has done this. Vance, blah, blah, blah. Vance. How, how terrible. How terrible. He did call for unity with normal Democrats, but the people that are actually celebrating his murder, the people that are saying, let's start list of other conservatives. This is a good thing. That's a lot of people.

[Slow Jack]

That's not, that's not five dudes.

[Philabonte]

I agree.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's like, yeah, 100.

[Philabonte]

I agree 100%. And, and that's why it's so. I think, why so many people are so shocked about the response. But like I said, I think it's important that we acknowledge that or at least point out Vance was not talking about all Democrats and he made that distinction clear.

[Shane Cashman]

The thing is, they've mainstreamed political bloodlust since COVID Yes. I mean, your neighbors started looking at you as a monster in 2020 during lockdowns. They wanted you to die. They were like, we're not going to, we're not going to even give you care. Get the thing we want you to take.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Shane Cashman]

So it's like the culmination of that.

[Philabonte]

You want to destroy your life.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. We're seeing this and we're seeing people get fired from their jobs. And I think JD Vance may, may even made mention to that. I don't want to misquote him, so I'm not gonna try and paraphrase, but I don't care. These people, these liberals are coming out and saying, oh no, right wing cancel culture. And my attitude is I agreed with the left when they said there are certain things that you can't say in public. The problem was they were pushing the line like they were, they were, they were forwarding the line like they were running across a football field full speed.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so people were getting swept up and being told that things they had said 10 years ago were unacceptable. Today, even though they didn't say it today and getting fired from their jobs. I have no problem saying at any point, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, or today, if you go to your job and start yelling about how you're glad someone got killed because they deserved it, while you cackle like a fiend. If the boss said you're making people uncomfortable, you need to leave, I would have said, yeah, that's, that's insane.

[Slow Jack]

It's reasonable. It's not digging up a tweet from 12 years ago saying you said something insensitive when you're 13 or playing Xbox recording of you walking down the street. It's someone going to work.

[Shane Cashman]

Like, yeah, if you have a soul.

[Slow Jack]

You don't want to have anyone that, like that around, work at McDonald's, you know, on that seven year burger, mate.

[Shane Cashman]

But like, even, even worse than that, I think if you have a soul, you have to understand that the people who are celebrating this and dancing on his grave, they need to be removed from society. Like, if, if they're teaching your kid, they can't be involved. They're in charge of your health care. They can't be in charge of your health care. Like, that's insane.

[Tim Pool]

Doctors and teachers everywhere.

[Shane Cashman]

M. There's that article from a teacher in Canada showing fifth graders the video.

[Tate Brown]

Yep.

[Shane Cashman]

You know, that's a lot like what happened in the Cultural Revolution when they would drag people out into the public square in China and make children watch decapitations and make the children sing the national Chinese national anthem while the heads rolled from the bodies.

[Slow Jack]

I've never heard of that.

[Shane Cashman]

Oh, it's gross stuff.

[Tim Pool]

And you know what I think is the. One of the terrifying. There's a tweet that I saw. I remember when the war with Israel and Iran broke out and there was all the planes and the air traffic was going around Israel and Iran, that whole area. And then one UAE flight went straight over. And then the. The joke someone tweeted was, I, I deleted all of my social media. I deleted all my social media. And honestly, my mental health has never been better. And they're flying straight over Iran. We get the point. It's not. Yes, ignorance is bliss. And someone tweeted in reference to the story when, if you delete your social media, you won't see it when they come to kill you. And that's actually kind of terrifying because what we are seeing this was in response to all of the people posting they want you dead. And not just that. Lists have been made with many names My name is on many of those lists as well as many other conservative commentators.

[Slow Jack]

Docs lists and all that stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Docs lists, addresses. And they're saying them next. There's videos of people saying, why just him? Go for the rest now. I'm waiting. There's one, There's. There's just too many of these.

[Slow Jack]

Oh my. They're saying you can look up the word next next please on Twitter and you can see a list of people who people call for. I think it's disgusting, mate. Why is. How's this been made mainstream?

[Shane Cashman]

Just they've been conditioned by their media diet like you said.

[Tim Pool]

Because conditioning institutions are controlled by their allies and never censored or shut them down. The right doesn't do this. The mainstream right. Traditional conservatives. What is. What is. What did Charlie Kirk say? Race neutral country. Your race isn't what matters. Your ideas and your willingness to work. So what did they do? Mehdi Hassan tweeted out a page of out of context quotes from Charlie Kirk to justify why he's dead, saying that he was a bigot and a racist. Now of course he'll tell you, oh no, no, I'm not trying to justify that he's dead. But we know that's exactly what they're doing because there's no reason to lie about someone in such a dramatic way.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The reality is Charlie Kirk was nice. He did not believe these psychotic things they're lying about. He never said black women didn't have brain processing power. They made that up. They're doing that because a someone whose ideology is aligned with the mainstream Democrat party. That is the important thing is people keep saying this guy was a leftist. Wrong answer. I won't call him a leftist. This guy was liberal aligned. He was left aligned. Why? What are leftists? Antifa. Marching through the street with masks on screaming antika pizza lista. It's fringe stuff, right? J.D. vance said it was fringe stuff. Well, who is this guy? As far as we can tell, the only motivating factor was gender ideology, which of course is an ideology aligned with every single Democrat in Congress. This is not fringe. This is on television. This is on. What channel was it where they had I am Jazz where the mother talked about waking up her son in the middle of the night who has a surgical graft in his abdomen that she jams a device into. Was it tlc? I'm not entirely sure, so I'll be careful. But that is on television. That is on television. So with this person is motivated to kill Charlie Kirk because his Lover. His boyfriend is a. Is a male who identifies as trans. And that's what investigators are saying. I think people need to wake up that as much as J.D. vance is saying this is fringe.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The ideology that motivated this is sitting right now with every single Democrat in Congress. And I'm not saying every single Democrat wants to hurt anybody or is advocating for this. I'm saying this ideology is universal.

[Shane Cashman]

On the left, there are states that will abduct your child if you don't affirm their gender bs.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. There are states that allow strangers to kidnap your children. And if they bring them, I believe it's the Pacific Northwest. If a man takes your 13 year old child from your home anywhere in the country and brings them to that state for a sex change, they cannot be prosecuted.

[Shane Cashman]

Insane.

[Tate Brown]

That's why it's such a mistake for this line that some people are taking where they're like, oh, he's clearly mentally ill or he was clearly radicalized. It's like just flip. On any leftist stream you're gonna see there's a huge social incentive for, I'm not gonna say violence, but certainly hate. I mean, full blown hatred towards these types of people. And exhibit A.

[Tim Pool]

Let's listen. Earlier today, Piers Morgan uploaded a debate with several personalities, including Jack Posobic and a Kasparian, Andrew Wilson, and who else? Who, who was on it? Cornell West. He stormed off in rage, refusing to have a dialogue. So Piers Morgan decided to bring on Destiny, a liberal streamer who states that I quote, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term. And I'll play the video for you right now. Cornel west. For now. Maybe we'll get him back. Well, Andrew Wilson referred to Destiny's insane tweets a little earlier, which were disavowed by Anna Kasparian. Well, Destiny joins us now. Destiny, you've been quite active on social media since Charlie Kirk's death. When Erica Kirk posted Charlie's coffin, you responded, she tagged him Brackets crying face emojis. In response to Alina Haber's tweet ordering people to fly their flags a half mast in memory of Charlie, you posted on X buying flags and poles just to fly them fully erect. And you then posted yesterday, ending every conservative debate call out I'd do in 2026 with don't dodge, bro. That's not what Charlie would have wanted. I mean, do you think that your response to the cold blooded murder of Charlie Kirk has been appropriate? Yes, I think that the Only way this country moves forward into a better world is when conservatives can finally realize that they need to turn the temperature down on their side. We are 10 years into whatever this Trump madness is and there is not a single mainstream conservative that will call for a lowering of the temperature on their side. I think that liberals need to wake up and finally realize that if they're not willing to do it, it will never come down. If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Donald Trump shouldn't have been president for the second term. Every time he's in office, this happens. People joked about when Biden came in, it was so boring, nothing was going on. 7 out of 10 of the largest protests in American history have happened under Donald Trump. All of the recent political violence that's happened in this country over the past 20 years, the majority of it, the overwhelming majority of it, everybody gets mad because they keep asking grok about it, has been conservative. Who shot Charlie Kirk? A guy from Utah who was raised in a Christian family, who was a 22 year old guy, described he had a trans girlfriend. He didn't have any trans influences, he didn't have any trans bullets. Yeah, I'm sorry, you guys were wrong on he's lying.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But the most important takeaway from there, and I'll show you a bit of this debunking it, how Charlie Kirk's killing sparked unfounded theories about gripers. Here's the New York Times. Kirk shooting suspect held leftist ideology, Utah governor says. And the only thing you can say is you were wrong about that. You were wrong. But the most important takeaway from what he said was if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term. Seven of the biggest protests were under Trump. Most of the political violence. What he is saying is obvious to anyone who has ears and he is saying it in a way to exploit legal loopholes because what he's not legally allowed to say, or I would argue that he crosses the line into potentially being sought after for criminal charges is if he said if he were to express that he or others would kill people who vote conservative, that's when he gets in trouble. But when he says it in this way, what is he saying? By you voting for Donald Trump, a leftist killed Charlie Kirk and maybe you shouldn't have voted for Trump. If you didn't want the left to protest the biggest protests in the mass rioting that we've saw in 2020, maybe you shouldn't have voted for Trump. But who was doing it all the left and that's the threat he's giving you. In fact, there's another video. How about I play this one for you exactly like I need. You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature. The issue is right now idiocy. Guys. We can't hear when you talk over what they're saying. Not, not exactly like I need. You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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[Tim Pool]

The issue is right now they don't feel like there's any fear. Like I don't know, I don't know. It's like memes. It's just memes to everybody.

[Dan Harris]

I guess.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. That's a lie. And that's all he does is lie. Because as the late David Graeber stated, the left 10 years ago adopted the fascistic ethos, quote, there is no truth but power. So when Destiny goes on Piers Morgan today and says there was no trans boyfriend, it's all made up. And we actually have. Here you go. FBI investigating social media accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of Kirk assassination. And they are all transgender aligned accounts and in Transgender forum saying, we effing did it. And you have numerous reports, even the DOJ saying that this person was left aligned with a trans boyfriend. And even the New York Times reporting Governor Spencer Cox, who has been heavily criticized by the right for actually being pro left. But we'll get into more of this and the evidence breaking this down. The point is, this argument that they're making right now is that Destiny didn't really mean that. He's saying, no, no, no, you should fear the death, not actually get shot. That's. That's a lie. He celebrated the death of Cory Kompretor. He mocked it and made fun of it. I'll tell you this. When he says the right doesn't fear any of this stuff, it's a fabrication. And I can tell you how I know this. Without naming any of the prominent conservative personalities, I can tell you that many of them that I personally know have 24 hour security details that cost millions of dollars per year and they have to sleep with four men surrounding their home every single night. And when I've gone and met with these people, I've had two heads. We would go out for food and there's four guys surrounding us all time. In fact, I have armed guards. And now as we're planning a trip, as I mentioned, I'll be in Austin soon, we are contemplating how much is in our budget for armed security to be transporting me around. Destiny is lying. He is creating terror intentionally. His statements are meant to be clear. Charlie Kirk died because Trump won the presidency, because you voted for who you want to. What he's saying is this will continue. The left will be violent. They will kill again unless you stop and surrender and let them do whatever they want.

[Philabonte]

It's just terrorism. He's endorsing terrorism. He's saying that people should be afraid of being killed because of their politics. That is what terrorism is. There's not. It's not, it's not some kind of big convoluted concept. When you say, I believe that violence should be used and I endorse using violence to modify people's political expression. That is terrorism. And is exactly what Destiny's saying. He should get a visit from the FBI. And it's. I think that if they decide or they find that he is, he should go to trial. And if he is, he should be put in jail.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well. And look, look, it's very careful what Destiny is saying here where he's saying the right needs to learn to stop turning up the temperature. Okay. How exactly was Charlie Kirk turning up the temperature? Having conservative beliefs.

[Philabonte]

One more thing to that point, there has never, in any society, there has never been a situation where people are given like when terrorism is used. And the response from the people has been to go to their leaders and say, give in to the terrorists. That's what he's saying. He's saying we need to turn up the heat on the conservatives so they'll go to Donald Trump and say, donald Trump, you need to do things. And other Republicans, you need to do things that turn the temperature down. That has never worked in human history, ever. The response will be what I've said, which is use the force of government to put those people that would use terror into effing jail forever.

[Tim Pool]

Let's put this into context. What he's saying. The Republicans need to go to Trump and tell Trump to turn things down. Charlie Kirk never advocated for violence, never insulted people based on race. They have lied about him every step of the way. He sought debate. He let anyone debate him, and he was shot in the neck by a man. And you know what? I'll do this. I will give you the lightest nonpartisan approach I can to the assessment we have on the shooter and his motivation. Axios reports two days ago. Or I'm sorry, this is yesterday. First. First post. I think it was just almost two days ago. Kirk investigators agassed transgender roommate may lead to motive. Axios reporting this. This is not a conservative organization. And they said authorities are investigating whether Tyler Robinson, suspected of killing Kirk, believed Kirk's views on gender identity were hateful to people like Robinson's transgender roommate. Six sources familiar with the case tell Axios. So this is first and foremost what they are saying is what we don't know if. We don't know if gender ideology was the moting motivating factor. What we do know is this individual, at the bare minimum, lived with a trans person. So forgive me if I say gripers don't live with trans people. That is a ridiculous fabrication. And here we are from Axios, how Charlie Kirk's killing sparked unfounded Theories about gripers and prominent mainstream liberals were running this lie. They also ran a lie where they claimed that the bullet engravings reported by Crowder and the Wall Street Journal said trn and that was simply the manufacturer stamp. It was a lie. Total fabrication. The bullet, in fact, said, hey, fascist, catch. Destiny's rebuttal on the show was that wasn't the bullet he was shot with, which is a meaningless distinction. It was in the magazine. And so I don't understand what his point is supposed to be, other than some are saying that Destiny's life has been ruined for some time, his family hates him, his kid hates him, and that he is doing these things intentionally to destroy his own life. And that may be the case Now. The reason I bring that up is because the reason they're saying this is don't blame all liberals for a man who is intentionally destroying his own life through rage and addiction or whatever it is he's doing.

[Shane Cashman]

Perhaps on some level, I like that he says this publicly. So we know what the face of evil looks like. And also, who bailed out the arsonists in 2020? Who ignored David Dorn getting shot in the head? You know, I was like, the left was cheering on all of that destruction.

[Tim Pool]

Aaron Danielson shot in the chest by Michael Reinhold walking down the street in Portland.

[Shane Cashman]

Children getting shot at different Chaz locations.

[Slow Jack]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So, and I'll just point this out real quick. New York Post, Charlie Kirk assassination suspect had furry fixation and his trans boyfriend proclaimed support for Biden on social media. It is fascinating to me that Destiny, he knows he's lying. They all know they're lying. As I pointed out already unfounded theories about gripers. These Democrats have been lying incessantly. Now, something I've shown, I was showing all throughout the day, and I want to pull this up for you guys. Let me see if I can find this one. I've played it, like, on every single.

[Shane Cashman]

I hope everyone's real. I did today John Dutois tweet up there.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah, I just don't like that guy's face, mate. That Destiny bloke. That's the reason why there's got that cuck chair and you know what corner of them hotels, mate.

[Shane Cashman]

He's a possessed muppet.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. I'm gonna play this. I'm gonna play this video for you guys in this context. Here you go. So, hi. I haven't spoken about the Charlie Kirk murder until now because we didn't know anything. And since my channel was created not to report the news, but to make sense of it. I felt like the only responsible thing to do was to wait until there was more information. It now appears that the person who shot and killed right wing political commentator Charlie Kirk was like the majority of shooters in America, a young white male from a conservative pro gun religious background. Now let's just pause real quick and break down the manipulation technique she used. We call this assumptive reasoning or assumptive language. That is to say something that will trick someone into assuming the statement is connected or to assume an output that is he came from a conservative background. She is hoping that you will then assume he held those same views. There's a bunch of ways the media does this. One of my favorite things, one of my favorite techniques they use would be like this. I spoke with Shane Cashman in a conversation. I was told that he hates vanilla ice cream. Now it sounds like what I'm saying is I talked to Shane and Shane says he doesn't want to eat vanilla. No, no, that's not what I said. There's a period there in a conversation that was a totally different conversation. What do you mean? What are you talking about? I never said that. And that's the game they play. Now the reality is we know this guy. It's reported by law enforcement, media, numerous journalists that have investigated this, people who have talked to the shooter's friends and family. He was left aligned, she says more after being told for two straight days that the left had declared war on America, that the shooter was most likely trans or in Congresswoman Nancy Mace's words, pro tranny. After the Wall Street Journal published an article, they had to later walk back that the bullets had a pro trans message because it turned out to be just the markings of one of the world' biggest ammunition factories. Absolute abject lie. Yes, and there's no way she doesn't know that because they did a press conference and there were, there were numerous reports on this. What she is basing her worldview off of is a is random anonymous Twitter accounts that were posting images of bullet casings with TRN for Turin on the bottom. And she ran with the lie without fact checking either because she is developmentally disabled, which I don't think so. I think she is intentionally and willfully lying to obfuscate the motives of the assassin who is closer to mainstream Democrat than anyone wants to admit, even liberals at first. At first they celebrated until the Yankees did a memorial, a moment of silence until the Cowboys, I think most NFL teams now apparently had just four that didn't.

[Slow Jack]

I don't know which ones, but it was just the four. I think it was all of them, basically, except the four of them. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

In Vegas.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Some of the casinos on their marquees in memory of Charlie Kirk. And when the liberals realized Charlie Kirk was a moderate beloved by most people. Chris Pratt has spoken out. Bill Maher has spoken out. Jamie Kennedy, I think I just saw him. Comedian Mick Jagger did.

[Slow Jack]

Yep, he did.

[Tim Pool]

The left begin to panic when they realized they're on the wrong side of history. So they're trying to change the narrative and they are playing dirty, evil, psychotic games to do it. But we will expose them.

[Slow Jack]

Change in history, mate. There you go.

[Tate Brown]

You've seen a few times on Twitter where they'll come out and they'll say, oh, it was a groper that did it. And then you press them and you say, well, you're changing this because, you know, this is completely indefensible action that took place. And they'll say, well, no, actually, it was his rhetoric that got him. So it's like they can't even decide on what their narrative is. It's just absolutely insane.

[Slow Jack]

They fight with each other on it, too. Like, you see, they're still fighting. They're still fighting the position of whether it's a moral thing to do. You see, half of them are going, oh, he didn't deserve to die. And half of my life.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he did, because he said this.

[Slow Jack]

And then they're collapsing on themselves. There's a reason why they can't make a meaningful political movement because they can't even come together for any sort of. Any sort of length of time that's meaningful at all. You look at it now, you go, no, you're right. You're right.

[Tim Pool]

I was going to say the ironic thing. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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[Tim Pool]

Is that when these leftists come out and say Charlie Kirk preached hate so he deserved it? They're holding up a giant bullseye over their own faces and that's why we tell them not to do this. The logic that these people are espousing is if Charlie did deserve it, they're basically saying they do too.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And you know what's funny is the whole time, several years, Destiny says no one in the mainstream conservative movement will call for the temperature to be put down to go down. Literally every single mainstream conservative every day. Literally every day. Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk himself, Jack, me, we're always saying guys, we don't want violence. Even in the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing on the day of with tears in my eyes as well as many others, we said we cooler heads must prevail and we do not want violence. But no matter how many times we beg and say stop, the left doesn't. And you know what they do? They create fake NGOs. Well they're real NGOs mind you. And they do this really clever thing that the right isn't smart enough to do. So how about we do this right now? I'm going to create an organization and we're going to call it the, let's call it the Mitteloop Institution. And we're going to call it the premier surveying and Study Group for the United States. Then we're going to put out a report where we say 97% of all violence is caused by the far left. Then we're going to disseminate that to newspapers who will publish it as fact and say new study reveals far left responsible for 97% of violence. And then when you trace it back to its source, you find out it is a leftist aligned nonprofit with a partisan report that was basically fabricated and then laundered through the press to masquerade as fact. And then they go on cnn, these Democrats like Seth Bolton and say the right is responsible for 76% of violence. And what are they really saying? They're saying we've excluded gang violence from mass shootings. We've then lumped in as the ADL does, anti government protests, which includes antifa white supremacy, which is not overtly political in any mainstream partisan way.

[Philabonte]

And that includes white supremacist gangs in Prison.

[Tim Pool]

And my favorite, really my favorite other, the ADL considers any nondescript political violence to be right wing. Let me prove it for you. Let me prove it. I ain't even playing around.

[Slow Jack]

That's how deep a guy.

[Philabonte]

Yes, it's white supremacist gangs in prison, which they are violent in prison because there's a lot of violence, but it doesn't include any black people in prison that commit any violence.

[Tim Pool]

Here you go. Take a look at how the Anti Defamation League's heat map categorizes extremism. Right wing, white supremacist. Now, if you went to J.D. vance, the Vice president, or Donald Trump and asked them do they hate black people based on race or should there be race? They're gonna say absolutely not. There should be no laws based on, you know, preferences based on race. If you went to any mainstream conservative and said, should there be race based policy? Or more importantly, do you think white people are inherently better than other races? 100% would say no. I said mainstream. There are certainly people on the fringe who align with white supremacy, but they call it right wing. Next you have right wing anti government. That's right. When far leftists go out and engage in violence, that's right wing because they oppose the government. What? Okay, here's my favorite other Other. The category includes other right wing extremist movements as well as the extreme wings of the broader right wing movements if they have association with violence, including anti abortion, anti Muslim, anti immigration, anti public lands. Interesting. So what is left wing? The category includes groups and movements traditionally considered part of the left, as well as anarchists. It also includes environmental and animal rights extremists. For simplicity sakes, it includes black nationalist extremists. Even though not all black nationalist extremist groups are necessarily fall under the banner of the far left. Why are there three categories of right wing?

[Slow Jack]

Very extreme.

[Tim Pool]

Why isn't Islamist under left wing? Yeah, the left overtly defends Islam every single day. Why is white supremacist right wing? How about they put left wing parentheses Islamist? Because what they have done is they've intentionally created a list that will lump tons of different categories under the quote unquote right. Because to the left, right wing means bad guy. This is what they do. So how about this? I'll start an NGO and we'll call it the Middle Loop Institution. And we'll get a picture of Shane wearing his mighty fine glasses. And you're a doctor.

[Shane Cashman]

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[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Shane Cashman]

I'm a doctor.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but you were actually a professor.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, I was, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Do you have a doctorate?

[Slow Jack]

No.

[Shane Cashman]

No. Well, you're not that much shame, but yeah, we'll pretend.

[Tim Pool]

You know what? No, we'll get Dr. Drew. We'll get whoever.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then we will do the stats the way they do. Disseminate them to the press, and the press will run with it. Now, of course, the truth is the media is left aligned, so they knew. They are. They know they are lying when they disseminate this stuff. But that's how they launder fake news and manipulate people into believing this stuff.

[Slow Jack]

Pass the buck along back to the ngo. They don't give a shit.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it goes back to a study, a report that was published by the NGO. Report no 1 checks.

[Slow Jack]

There's one doctor who signed off on it.

[Tim Pool]

My favorite was the Alternative Influencer Network report seven years ago where they claimed that Chris Ray Gun, a video game comedy YouTuber, had collaborated with Richard Spencer, the front man of the alt right, when in fact, the two men not only had nothing in common, but never once met. They claimed in their report that I had collaborated with Stefan Molyneux, who I had never met before. They just make it up. The funny thing was they put me in the middle of it. There's this big, like. What are those things called with the. The conspiracy maps? I like the red lines.

[Slow Jack]

Oh, just a. Just a crazy guy's wall.

[Tim Pool]

They made that and they put me in the middle. And the Young Turks used it unironically.

[Slow Jack]

How does it feel when, like, you say that just as Tim.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I don't know. I was like, what the.

[Slow Jack]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I guess at that point, it's. When I first saw it, I made a bunch of phone calls like, whoa, let's go. What is this? And mind you, this is in 2018. I believe it was 2018. And this was a time where I said I was staunchly liberal and would never vote for Donald Trump and couldn't stand the guy. And they still lied about me and smeared me and did all this stuff, Right? Absolutely insane. So at the time, I made a bunch of phone calls, furious, and called a lawyer and said, how can they include me in this and claim that I interact with people? I did not. And they said, you can't do anything about it. Cancel them. They're allowed to do it.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and I mean, now it's going to get people killed. As we've seen all these lies and smears and etc, it's going to get people killed, as it already has.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, that's their goal.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, that's their goal. Well, they set up the pincer movement a while ago where they would say, if you went to your average leftist, be like, okay, is it appropriate to punch a Nazi? And they'd be like, yeah, of course.

[Slow Jack]

A bunch of local Nazis.

[Tate Brown]

And then they would say, is someone like Charlie Kirk a fascist? And they'd be like, yeah, of course. And it's like, okay, we've already. You've already cleared political violence in your worldview. They did it years ago.

[Slow Jack]

We've seen the way that they've cultivated this, the labeling culture that they've cultivated where they attach these extreme words onto ordinary people like Charlie, who are doing extraordinary things. But they'll have the word Nazi, fascist, sexist, misogynist. And most people, let's be honest, most people don't do their own research. Most people just want to hear what they want to hear. They want to see what they want to see. So people hear this, they'll run with it. They don't like the guy because from what they've heard or what their mates heard, they're going to run with it. And now we're seeing right now the end game of it. Finally, they've got what they've wanted. They've now hit the green button on violence. Now it's condoned, mate. And a lot of them are. A lot of them are complicit in it. You see, a lot of them are pushing back, saying, I don't. I don't agree with it. I think it should be. But they're bickering with themselves. I can't believe a whole side of the political aisle can't come to terms on whether murder is wrong. Yeah, you know, isn't that. You know, it's because messed up, mate.

[Shane Cashman]

They've effectively made their side believe in the caricature that the talking heads and the bureaucrats created. So, like Trump being literally Hitler.

[Tim Pool]

You know, they've literally believed a meme, though.

[Slow Jack]

Remember, it's like he is literally Hitler. But now it's like there are maniacs. These people, mate, you know, like out here, they truly believe this. And they think they're heroes, mate. They think they're Iron Man, Superman superheroes rolling in Kachow thinking they're saving the universe from sudden doom, where it's just a normal bloke, you know, saying he loves people of all races. He doesn't see race get shot. How disgusting is that? Yeah, man, we lived in America. I moved here because you get away from countries like that, you know. What a shame.

[Shane Cashman]

Evil's everywhere, dude.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I want to jump to the story from the Free Beacon. FBI investigating social media accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of Kirk assassination. In fact, there is a theory that there is a transgender cell. I think it may be an easier way to put it. Some people have referred to as a terror cell is there is an online clique with various communication channels that talk to each other, knew about this, in some ways, aided or abetted the shooter. But the bare minimum, there was a network of individuals, likely transgender, that were in communication with the shooter and were aware of the plans. Take a look at this. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating social media posts by at least seven different accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, according to three people familiar with the investigation. The posts, one of which referenced the date of Kirk's assassination, September 10, more than a month before it took place, were all deleted in the days following the killing. Several accounts appear to belong to trans individuals, and at least one of them followed suspect Tyler Robinson's roommate, with whom Robinson was allegedly in a relationship. Now, here's an interesting thing. There is a conspiracy theory that the roommate is the shooter and that Robinson is the patsy. Dude, did you see that footage? I saw this footage today of like the two. The two individuals early on. It's beginning when he's like doing this product throw out. I think it was what he's doing. And you can see in the back and the frames, you'll see two. Two figures above. The roof from which he was shot was like the Lisa center, whatever it's called. I haven't even.

[Shane Cashman]

It's fake. It's fake. They were on the roof. It's someone's hands.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

If you look at it. Yeah. I saw people sharing. There's so many. They've like littered the Internet with so many easily things.

[Tim Pool]

Here's another one. There's an image of the suspect and people are putting it next to the image of the suspect in jail and they don't look the same. It's because the image of the suspect in the stairwell is an AI generated image. It's not real.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

Well, for the past year, I've had a guest on my show. We've done about three episodes with bx, talking about these cults that are. These death cults that are online. A lot of them are. Have a lot of trans ideology in them and they reference each Other and they're obsessed with mass shooters. They idolize it, they fetishize it. It's a 7 9, a 764 network. It's a big deal. Some of them have been in the military. It's, it's a big network. So this is like the Catholic shooter, the Catholic church shooter. All the writings on his guns reference a lot of those shooters and other things.

[Tim Pool]

This is an interesting one. In this TikTok it reads, Charles James Kirk, Mr. College Dropout, does not know what's coming tomorrow. Be ready. This isn't a threat, it's a promise. One post said, charlie Kirk is coming to my college. I really hope someone finally evaporates him. Let's just say something big will happen tomorrow. Another post says, you guys, I have something big coming soon. Just be sure to check, check the news. You'll know it when you see it. Well, that's that 452@9.

[Shane Cashman]

I guarantee there's a lot of people involved with this. Oh yeah, guaranteed.

[Tate Brown]

They're grabbing them.

[Tim Pool]

Super.

[Tate Brown]

It was the 762 Colt is what you're referencing for. They recruit. They recruit on like Roblox. I mean that's a game for like oh yeah, children.

[Shane Cashman]

They go after your kids and they will try to make your kids harm themselves, do horrible things to kind of induct them into the cult and then it turns into real life violence and.

[Slow Jack]

FBI just groom them really young on, even on Reddit and, and all that. And they, they go on there and they, they go on these Discord servers and they. I've seen there were these, there were these Discord servers where they were. There's this big thing like was going for a long time.

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[Slow Jack]

We're here like these grooming groups of people who were like trying to convince young kids that they were trans and they were very successful. You know, they got a whole cohort of people who actually weren't like that and they somehow convinced them this is a thing, there's a pipeline for this stuff. And I can't believe people are saying, oh, the simplest answer must be the simplest. You know, look at, there's so much more to it.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah. When you take the lonely and isolate them and they're over medicated and you start feeding them all this negative demonic stuff, it's easy to activate them.

[Slow Jack]

Well, it's easy for, it's easy for people like us to go, oh, they're just crazies because we, we go outside, we have beers with the lads, we go out, we have fun or whatever, we talk to people, we have social skills, whatever. There's kids out there who never leave the house. They got no one, you know, and they get, they get like preyed upon by these people in likes of Roadblocks and this. Like, I can't, I can't imagine how to get to that point where you can get manipulated like that. But there seems to be a large number of people. Right. Guessing it's because of social media. You feel like an ant in Anthill.

[Shane Cashman]

It's MK Ultra.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah. You've been doing this for decades.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and also like they people, when we think who's running these types of cults or you know, sextortion groups or whatever, like we think it's like some creepy old guy, but every time they bust these people, they're also fairly young. Like they're just other atomized individuals that are just feeding each other like this. Like it's a death cult. That's quite literally the only thing that.

[Slow Jack]

Mold growing, it feeds on itself. You know, it's strange and it's getting.

[Tate Brown]

Worse and worse and worse because every social indicator of young people's matriculation is going the wrong way. So it' just going to get worse and worse and worse.

[Slow Jack]

We see the identif or like. Like there's a lot. I can't remember the exact figure. There's a large percentage of young women, especially, who identify as lgbt. And that's like, whatever. But it's just like, generally that was delegated to a very small minority of people for all of history and all of ancient history, pre history. And you look at that, there's always been, you know, gay dudes going around. But, mate, you look at it now, these are large percentages. You know, I can't quite. I'm not going to say a number because I'm not a leftist. I'm not going to say a number just to say a number and go.

[Tim Pool]

This is the number. This is the truth.

[Slow Jack]

I'm going to wait till I get a fact, but might crazy.

[Tim Pool]

I want to play this clip from the five of Jesse Waters, which is kind of horrifying. These aren't fringe people. These are people that are teaching your children, celebrating Charlie Kirk being assassinated. These are neurologists. These are people who work at Fortune 500 companies. And they're sounding like the devil himself. And so these people, we don't have to tolerate it, we can forgive, but they have to get on their knees and they have to beg for forgiveness. They have to repent. The important thing right here is we're talking about the radicalization. Do you want to go to a nurse or hospital where the nurse was cheering for the death of Charlie Kirk? You show up and you've got like an American flag tattoo, or maybe you've got we the people on your arm or, you know, join or die tattooed.

[Slow Jack]

Go to a place where they potentially.

[Tim Pool]

Hate you, and you go to a place where there's a woman working in there and she said, these people should die. I'm not gonna let that person give me any kind of shot or IV or anything.

[Tate Brown]

Well, that's like. That's why it's so strange. This is a wedge issue. Because it's like generally in any. Like you were saying earlier, in any workplace, if someone's really excited that someone died, they would get fired for that. Like, that has been the standard all of.

[Slow Jack]

All of employment history. You know, it's not like this isn't a new cancel culture for the right thing. This is just common sense, mate. They call it. Well, they call it accountability culture now, consequence culture.

[Tim Pool]

That's what they call it. That's what the left has always called it. But I think the more worrying thing is to stop and consider teachers, doctors, lawyers, executives, Secret Service agents, people in the military cheering for a political assassination against an individual who is a moderate. That is the terrifying reality that we're dealing with, the radicalization. Look, every conservative knows I'm not a conservative. Every liberal will call me far right if a moderate. Middle of the road, centrist, liberal leaning in certain areas, conservative in some areas. If a moderate is far right. Y'.

[Slow Jack]

All.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you got targets on your back.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah, you're a problem, mate. Yeah, no tolerance. You know what a tolerant group of people, mate.

[Tim Pool]

And now there's this lie where if you go on networks like Threads or Blue sky, everyone's ignoring Threads, by the way. But Threads is really bad.

[Slow Jack]

I went on as soon as the news dropped. I was like, please. I actually went on Threads just as an experiment because I was, I was destroyed. I was actually out with a coffee, and I actually heard people. I was with my girl and I was actually. You heard people on laptops, you know, in the, in the afternoon, there's all these, you know, paper pushes on their laptops or whatever. They're all, I'm a writer, I'm a journalist. I'm an enr. I'm in Nashville. So you get all these music industry people, mate in the corner, these two girls, blue hair, looking like freaks, mate. No offense. Whatever. Cool, if you like blue hair. But honestly, I think it's disgusting. In the corner, you hear him go, oh, my God, Charlie Kirk. You could hear it.

[Tim Pool]

And they're like, oh, my God.

[Slow Jack]

Oh, my God. They're like jumping around. And that's the first interaction that I, I saw about. It made me sick. My girl was crying. My manager and his wife were crying. First thing I did, I'm like, let me check Threads just as an experiment to see how is, if this is a common thing that I'm witnessing or these are just two up people at the coffee shop, mate. I've never been on Blue Sky. I don't know. It was disgusting, actually. Disgusting. Rest in piss or whatever they say, mate.

[Tim Pool]

Threads is, is insane. I don't think people realize that there, there, there's no middle ground anymore. No, I, I, I just pulled my Threads app right now, and the first thing I see is someone saying, Charlie Kirk was a weirdo. He advocated for the inherent inferiority of certain social groups at a time where hate crimes and discriminatory legislation were on the rise. It's just the whole. The whole thing. And then there are some conservatives trying to push back, but it's just a flood of liberals celebrating it. The funny thing is when they said there's a viral post on threads, it said, you mean there's a group that is further far right than Charlie Kirk with a bunch of exclamation points? Because their lie they were pushing was that Nick Fuentes got Charlie Kirk killed. Which is absolutely insane, by the way. Fake. And Axios is even debunked.

[Slow Jack]

Ridiculous.

[Tim Pool]

But it was because they needed an excuse to say we're the good guys. But Greg Gutfeld exploded on Jessica Tarlov on the 5 today, and he was like, the reason you need to lie is because you're starting to realize you're not the good guys. And they're not. They're the villains. They cheer for the villains in movies. They made the orcs. They tried to make the orcs into good guys.

[Slow Jack]

They ruined the orcs, mate. They ruined the orcs.

[Tim Pool]

They did.

[Slow Jack]

Straight up. They were my orcs, you know?

[Tim Pool]

Do you see the show?

[Slow Jack]

Yeah. They've ruined orcs. I can't believe you could ruin orcs. They're like one of the most steady character archetypes of all time. They're disgusting beasts. They're like, let's give them thoughts and feelings of, you know, dude, they're poor.

[Tim Pool]

Families that are scared of humans.

[Slow Jack]

These poor Orc families.

[Tim Pool]

And it's. And it's funny because it's the meme where it's the. The Battle of Helm's Deep. Who can. If you don't know if that is too bad. You're not enough. Anyway, it's a big battle in Lord of the Rings and the battle. And you see, I think it's like, I don't know, it shows Gandalf talking to Aragorn or whatever, and he's like, well, let them in. Don't be racist.

[Slow Jack]

What?

[Tim Pool]

When he's like, the orcs are here at the gates. It's like, well, let them in. Don't be racist.

[Slow Jack]

Let him in. I'm believable to say let him in.

[Philabonte]

Right?

[Shane Cashman]

I also want to say, like, I believe these cults exist, but I also don't want to discount this idea of accelerationism and things that our government has done over the years, whether it's Operation Gladio Condor, the years of Lead, that they might have participated in Italy. And I think there's these forces beyond just the foot soldiers on the ground that want to hasten the end times and. And collapse society. And that's what I see a lot, a lot of this. Whether or not they're actually behind this, I think they take advantage of these tragedies and they want to bring us to the end.

[Tate Brown]

Well, the only thing separating these atomized shooters and the people that are celebrating is that the people celebrating just have something to lose. Because fundamentally they have the same ideology, the ideology of death. The only thing separating them from these executives or teachers or whatever is those people that have something to lose. But we're dealing with the same ideology across the board here from the atomized cultist shooter. And you know, your doctor, you get.

[Slow Jack]

Away with much more when you're homeless and you're, you're unemployed, you know, living basement, you can say whatever you like. But the teacher, you know, I can't believe people. I just honestly can't believe people are so confident right now. Like we live in a confidence, like a confidence hell hole. I think, you know, I grew up in Australia where it's like, if you're too confident, you get smacked on the back of the head. It's like, calm down, mate, you know, all that. But nowadays you see people on social media, they are so confident in their anonymity. So I'm a bit dyslexic, but mate, they're so confident in the fact that they don't think they'll be seen, that they're going, they're cheering for death. They're a nurse. Or I saw this one, this woman saying she was a child care worker. She said, you know what, the kids, oh, he's a father. Well, the kids fuck the wife.

[Tim Pool]

It's like, bitch, you work as a.

[Slow Jack]

Child care worker with your name on your Facebook and you got your place of work right there. They instantly sacked her, obviously. But I can't believe people have the audacity, mate. I would never, you know, if I was working at McDonald's, I'd be too afraid to lose my job. You know, I'm like, please, I'm a good boy.

[Shane Cashman]

You know, Their ideology means more to them.

[Slow Jack]

Chicken burger.

[Shane Cashman]

But I like that reference. That's their whole identity though. Yeah, it's a religion, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's strange.

[Shane Cashman]

So it's more than their jobs when anything, it's like they are virtue signaling to their death cult that will accept this.

[Philabonte]

They think it a little taste of martyrdom if they get fired.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, that's exactly. They legitimate. They legitimately like, this is not a larp. This is not a bit. They legitimately think they're fighting fascism.

[Slow Jack]

Well, I Like, I like that point. You said like role playing, martyrdom. Yeah. You look at that, even in the protests, you know, they're wearing the little scarfs on their head, the kefirs or whatever, trying to, trying to look like the warrior kind of. It's almost like, like, what's that movie, the Scottish dude, Fight for our freedom.

[Philabonte]

Highlander.

[Slow Jack]

Braveheart, mate. Like, that's what it feels like. It feels like a fake attempt to kind of feel like, like that. And you look at them, they're a bunch of like 5 foot tall, mentally ill, scrawny losers. And they're like, we are warriors. And they're like getting taken away from the cops.

[Tim Pool]

They're like, take my video.

[Slow Jack]

You know, it's like ever since, I think it's, ever since the George Floyd, it's been the. There's been some kind of celeb like, like this, this feeling of, of just prestige that comes with getting arrested or being a martyr or being a moron. And I just look at it, I'm just, I just don't know. I feel like the whole world's in like a state of shock right now that I feel I haven't snapped out of yet. I haven't snapped out going, how can these people be doing this? I don't know about you guys, but I haven't snapped out of it. Like most people just like still struggling to find words. Yeah. And you know, I don't even know, mate.

[Shane Cashman]

It's just hard to go to sleep.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The next crazy thing too, we'll just mention it briefly. I don't need to pull anything up for this is the people who are posting within a day. Israel did it. Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

[Philabonte]

That's comedy though.

[Tim Pool]

They're lying with, with flying thing. So I will say this. Candace Owens, her live stream from two hours ago is titled they are lying about Charlie Kirk and it's a picture of Netanyahu. She has several viral posts where she said in the lead up to his assassination or at some point he had rejected money from Netanyahu and that he was frightful, fearful of the Israel lobby and fear that they would kill him if he didn't do what they said or something that effect. And all I can say is knowing I'm not gonna pretend like, you know, I hung out with Charlie every single day or anything like that. I've heard nothing of the sort. I will just say that I reached out to several people and denied every single step of it. Like that's just, it's just plum psychotic. It's just fake.

[Slow Jack]

Fake.

[Tim Pool]

It's completely fake now. I don't know. I mean, I don't know why they would lie to me about that. I also don't know why Candace would make a video with a picture of BB Netanyahu titled they are lying to us about Charlie Kirk and then say that Charlie was scared of Israel. Or Ian Carroll, who posted shortly after he had a viral tweet where he said, Within 24 hours, everyone figured out who did it. It was Israel. Of course, none of it makes any sense. They made these videos where they show Charlie Kirk talking to Ben Shapiro about genocide in Gaza. And it was a typical podcast layup where Charlie said to Ben, what would you say to someone who called what's going on in Gaza a genocide? And then Ben answers. They then zoom in on Ben's face and play music to make it seem like Charlie Kirk had become critical of Israel. He had not. Charlie, in fact, was making videos where he brought young Gen Z Gen Z men in to debate them on why Jews in Israel were good and why he supports Israel. So this narrative that's emerged is the weirdest thing ever. Maybe it's for clicks, maybe it's because people have Israel derangement syndrome. I don't know. All I can say is this. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm just some guy. When I saw Candace Owens and Ian Carroll posting about it, I reached out to several people because we are directly connected to all of them. We've been on TPUSA stage three times in the past three years, which requires heavy coordination to bring a show, transport crew and all of that stuff. Not only that, we are friends with tons of people who work with TP USA directly coming on this show almost every other day or routinely. And it's just been patently denied by everyone as a fake, fabricated story made up. And so I'm like, okay, I don't know. I don't know Candace Owens that well either. I don't know why she would make it up. Weird. Yeah, I think it's. I. I think it's just not true. I trust my friends and I have. I. I have no reason to believe that the people I know who are saying that never happened, this is fake would lie to me.

[Shane Cashman]

I think there's something beyond just the cult. And I also think the Israel narrative might have something to do with my theory on accelerationism, where they drop a narrative in to just sow more discord and make people fight and blame and point the finger as people blaming just one community. This Other community and I think a lot of the goal with acceleration.

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[Shane Cashman]

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[Tim Pool]

Yeah, like Sneako saying that's what. That's what they wanted. They wanted the left and right each other's necks. That's what they wanted. Well, I don't.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, I mean we know ambiguous they to me they right now would be there's larger factions within the government, deep state types that did things like Operation Gladio or Condor, years of lead who go undercover in these chat rooms to radicalize people. You know, that's been. We've seen that over the years.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, Well, I just think at this point, like if you had your Israel narrative locked and loaded, you're just like three, four days after the shooting. You're just not on the team because it's like we have an opportunity here to finally crush this leftist death cult and then now you're trying to like do a bait.

[Tim Pool]

They're protecting the left. Yeah, I don't care about Israel. I don't want to fund Israel. I don't care what Israel does. Let's cut off all funding and severe sides of them 100%. How does that sound for you guys? Let me stand alongside everybody who hates Israel and say we're going to cut off ties to Israel. They're on their own. They get no more money from us. Don't know, don't care. Now why are they Defending the left. Why are they running cover from somebody who all indications is trans identified? Trans ideologue. All of a sudden they're saying, hey, don't look over there, look over here at this other country halfway around the world. It could be, because anything that could be used to weaponize anger against Israel is part of their strategy. I guess. I don't know. I find it weird that at the same time as I can say, hey, stop distracting from this story about a left aligned individual who assassinated a prominent conservative, they then say, I'm a Zionist, they say, Tim Pool supports the Jews or Zionism or whatever, when I can literally say in the same breath, cut off all funding, sever all ties and they can do whatever they want, we're out. Nope, that's not good enough. That's why I think it's fake. Because if I come out and say I advocate for the US to cut all funding 100% from Israel, don't want to be involved, and they still call me a Zionist and they still call me pro Israel, you know, they're not serious and they're lying.

[Philabonte]

Well, the, the people that are like that, that are bringing up Israel all the time to say you don't support them isn't enough. They actually want the US to just help the Palestinians destroy Israel. Like really, they really do want to see Israel destroyed so much that they're like, the US should start bombing, you know, the Israelis and because of all the terrible things. Because the point is they hate Jews in Israel. So when you say, oh, well, you know, let's just forget it, I don't want to give them money or whatever, that's not good enough. Because you have to hate the way that they hate, because that's what it's based on.

[Shane Cashman]

I don't think they all hate Jews, though. I think you can't oversimplify it.

[Philabonte]

Hate Israel.

[Shane Cashman]

They hate it. I don't think hating is. You can hate the government and still like Jews.

[Philabonte]

They still. But they want the, they want to see the US involved in military action against Israel that I disagree with.

[Shane Cashman]

I just want to walk away.

[Tim Pool]

There is an issue in that there are certain people who are critical of Israel as anyone is allowed to be. There are certain people who just hate Jews and the people who hate Jews will always take an opportunity to overlap with those who hate Israel and so intentionally obfuscating the argument.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So that way it becomes challenging when you've got somebody whose real motive is hating Jews just masquerading as an anti war or anti interventionist Personality.

[Shane Cashman]

Yep.

[Tate Brown]

It's just the flip side of the same people. When Kirk went down and people were upset about it, people that were apolitical and then they would literally. And you would, if you don't believe, just go to a comment section of like a normie Instagram account that you know, was announcing the death and people be like, but all these children dying in Palestine, like, what about that? And it's like, okay, yeah, that's, that's sad. But two things can be Charlie Kirk right now. But the flip side is the people that are instantly like, oh, Israel did this. Yeah, it's Israel. Let me just change the conversation from left versus right and turn it into a geopolitical argument.

[Slow Jack]

Jingly keys. My jingly keys.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, precisely.

[Slow Jack]

Keep your head off the actual task at hand. Let's, let's bicker about.

[Tate Brown]

That's all it is.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

You know, they're trying to, they're just trying to like change the narrative.

[Slow Jack]

Hey, hey, look, you know, that's what it is. That's straight up what it is. And yeah, I think it's weird. You see, you see so much, you see so much of this, Brian. I'm just, I'm honestly sick of it.

[Tim Pool]

It's pro democrat, right? The, the, the leftists in this country hate Israel.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And they obfuscated the shooters motivation or ideology. Then other people came out immediately blaming Israel, once again aligning with the left on hatred of Israel and again obfuscating the identity or the motivation of the shooter. I just find it to be kind of over the top, completely obvious that like, I gotta be honest, you know, when like, I think it was like Jackson Hinkle or whatever had a tweet where he said that GTA was, was Israel or Zionist or something. People are. Timmy's joking and I'm like, okay, I got maybe. But when people can't figure that out because he does like stuff like that all the time, it almost feels like it's so overt and over the top, it actually makes you question whether they're serious when they say it. Because you're like, is this a joke? In what reality did Israel kill Charlie Kirk? I don't understand how that, that, that's that's the craziest thing. I mean, if you came out and said that Russia did it, I'd believe you. I'd be more likely to believe you if you were like, oh, yeah, you know, because he was in Trump's ear on war plans or something. I don't know.

[Slow Jack]

I just see, I just see There's a. There's a more believable, more simplistic way of looking at it. Just, there's just. There's a more obvious option here. There's a radical group of people in this country that just want someone dead. And that's. That's what it is. And that's what we've had, a deterioration of discourse, a divide that's grown to a valley. Why do you have to jump into this is a foreign nations fold, or this is this. It's obvious, mate, it's this. It's a radical group of people that want people dead. And it's the deterioration of discourse and just polite society. And we're seeing it in real time. We felt it all these years of you guys longer living in America. I've only been here three years, but you can feel it. So it's. To me, I just think it's just an obvious answer. It's just some crazy dude, a part of a crazy agenda that's taking over.

[Shane Cashman]

And I get it. I'm a little reluctant to judge whatever right now and take any answer at its face value, knowing how, like, even RFK Jr doesn't believe of the assassin that we have killed his father. You know, you look at Lee Harvey Oswald and the CIA was tracking him all over the place. So it's like the answers, if, when they come so easy, I'm a little reluctant to believe. Like, then that's it. I can't just.

[Slow Jack]

Then also, a bit of healthy skepticism is always great too. You can't always believe because then you're just. The jingly keys work on you.

[Shane Cashman]

They count on you accepting the narrative that makes the most sense.

[Slow Jack]

And that's. Yeah, and we've seen that track record working in American history. Just general history with war.

[Shane Cashman]

JFK died in the 60s and we're still.

[Slow Jack]

There's a lot of people that. A lot of people are like, yeah, it was. That was all the news said there was, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Slow Jack]

You know, and yeah, I, I certainly, I certainly think a lot of people saying, well, look at this bad thing. Therefore, you didn't speak on. You said earlier what, you didn't touch on Gaza. Yeah, you didn't touch on Gaza. Now you're bringing up Charlie Kirk. I'm retarded and this is my best argument. And I look at it and I'm just like, mate, two things can be bad at once. We've had one of the most significant political figures in American history get shot in the neck in front of millions of people in HD 4K. First time that that's really happened in that graphical kind of way. Like, it was just. It was terrifying. And you see that and you're like, why can't we force on, like, focus on that? Why can't we put our attention on that? Like, obviously, there's bad things happening all over the world. You look at, you know, look in Africa right now with all the slaves and all the. All the people getting killed, Christians and all these things. People aren't saying that.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Slow Jack]

It's just diversion, mate. I look at it, I'm like, this is a very pivotal time in American history. And people say, oh, you got to focus on every. Mate. I want to focus on Charlie Kirk because he died. And that's the way I look at it. And people. People be deflecting all the time, but I think that's what it comes down to, mate.

[Tim Pool]

We got two comments I want to read. One says, Peter McKay says, how. How about, Tim, you watch Candace's video like I did, and then you can see that she kind of showed some proof. Sure. Dustin Jones says Candace didn't say Israel did it.

[Slow Jack]

It.

[Tim Pool]

She was saying BB was lying by omission about a letter Charlie wrote, nothing to do with his death. Well, certainly, if that's the case, then I apologize if it came off that way. My point was, when you make a video with a picture of Bibi says they're lying about Charlie Kirk three or four days after his assassination, and there is a spattering of posts online, particularly with other people like Ian Carroll saying Israel did it. That's kind of the insinuation by the thumbnail, but fair point. I didn't watch her. Her stream.

[Shane Cashman]

He got into some kind of heated argument in the Hamptons.

[Tim Pool]

Right. I saw some of the X posts.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Which, of course, it sounds like the implication is, yeah, they killed him. Yeah. Like, Fuentes was going live before the show saying that he had the smoking gun, or he's addressing the smoking gun, which is like, we don't know. He's saying it's Israel. That's.

[Shane Cashman]

I mean, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Well, I just.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, it's like. Okay, it's one thing. I'm not specifically addressing Candace or anything. I'm just saying, why are we in a rush to left the. Let the left off the hook here? That's just so strange to me because it's like we have a huge opportunity where the admin can crack down, and it's like we're just gonna completely let him off the hook because of like weird smoking guns that are apparently out there.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial. Two men arrested after allegedly planting explosive device under Fox affiliate news vehicle in Magna, Utah. Okay. I mean, that's the news. Two men have been arrested for allegedly leaving an incendiary device under a Fox 13 news vehicle. The man, Adib Nassir, 58, and Adil Justice Ahmed Nasir, 31, were booked in a jail and faced multiple charges, including threat of terrorism. Excuse me. Possessing explosive devices. The device underneath the Fox 13 news vehicle was originally located on Friday, determined to be real. According to officials, the device had been lit but failed to function.

[Slow Jack]

Very, very American name.

[Tate Brown]

Heritage. American.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Slow Jack]

Heritage. Old school. Really. Utah names.

[Tim Pool]

I was watching the news, and if you're wondering what civil war would look like, it's things like this. Most people don't know the story even happened. Yeah, that's what's scary about it. The news today has been dominated so much by, of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, as well as, I think Israel's launching a ground invasion of Gaza City or something. This news is just breaking. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's, of course, Russia and Poland, drones, and then two men arrested for putting an explosive device in a news vehicle. You also had the, the threats in Annapolis, which. Annapolis, which resulted in an accidental shooting. You had the threats and swatting calls to all these different universities. And I think what people don't realize about what civil war looks like is I'm not saying we're in a civil war, but it looks kind of like this. You'll turn the news and you'll be watching Fox or maybe you're watching msnbc, but it'll be Brett Bear. And he'll say, in other news, i95 in Texas was hit by an IED, cutting off the flow of traffic from, from the south into the eastern regions. So everybody, unfortunately, won't have your strawberries in time for Christmas, but at least we will still have our local fruits and vegetables. But in other news. And then I'll move on. In the event that there is some kind of civil war or whatever conflict crisis in this country, it's not going to be every state lining up against state. It'll be you turning on the news and they'll say, power is out in Omaha as a substation was struck by gunfire. It'll be you looking out your window, and in the middle of the night, you hear rustling and then a bang. You creep over to your window, take a peek out, and there's Three guys in armor with guns slow walking down the street, and you don't know what they're doing or why. And that's it. And they're gone. It'll be you going to a marketplace and hearing gunshots go off, and then you'll hit the. Hit the ground, and then that'll be it. You won't know why, but you'll hear a lot on the news about gas attacks or bombs being detonated. And it'll mostly be in a faraway place. Very few people will actually live in hot zones. And this is every civil war in history.

[Slow Jack]

Right?

[Philabonte]

Yeah. I mean, the. The idea that this is the beginning of a civil war is something that, like, we've kind of been dealing with for the past at least, touching on. And there's a lot of people that are really critical about, you know, oh, Tim says civil war, blah, blah, blah. But you can't deny that there's been an increase in. In rhetoric and an increase in violence over the past five years. That's basically. I mean, as far as I can remember, that it's not like any other time period in my life, and I'm not a spring chicken anymore.

[Shane Cashman]

You know, Tim's description sounds like right now to me.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

I mean, that is happening all the time when I turn on the news.

[Tim Pool]

I turned on the news the other day and every story was about some kind of violence happening, and I was just like, holy crap.

[Shane Cashman]

A year ago, in the same town that Robinson's from, a trans kid shot his parents.

[Tim Pool]

Whoa.

[Shane Cashman]

Both of them, like, right down the road.

[Tim Pool]

Must be something in the water.

[Shane Cashman]

Must be.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah. Feels like to me, we've been in ideological war for God knows how long at this point. It feels, feels.

[Tim Pool]

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[Slow Jack]

Like a long time and it's becoming increasingly physical to the point where people can't ignore it. And the way I look at it, it's like it's, it's obvious, mate. We've been in war, we've been in, been in war of politics, we've been war of ideology. It's been brutal. People haven't been able to talk to their family members. Cutting each other off. This is warfare. It's mental warfare. So the fact that people, some people, I know, some people, they're shocked that things are getting physical and I might, and I'm like, mate, I can't believe it hasn't got physical. Didn't get physical earlier. And I'm just, I'm shocked. And, and it's, and that's, it's just, I just look at it and I'm like, that's just, it's just another product of this lineage that we've been on.

[Shane Cashman]

It's human nature. Yeah, well, the 60s in this country, we're going through it again right now.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

And we're still trying to get answers from that. Like Malcolm X was shot dead in front of everybody, including his kids and his pregnant wife. And they have three people in jail. Well, they had three people in jail and they didn't get the right three people. Right. And then like right now his family is just now as of 2021 suing the CIA and the NYPD.

[Slow Jack]

People never seem to get the right people in these things. They don't.

[Tate Brown]

The problem with like today though is it's not tit for tat. Like it's almost entirely coming from the Left. So it's like you would need to see a ramping up of, like, right wing political violence, which is just not happening because political violence is inherently left wing.

[Shane Cashman]

You think that, but they think that that's not true because they all point to J6 and they, they think. But we know that's probably left wing violence accelerating. 6 is like Pearl Harbor.

[Tate Brown]

I'm just saying, like, I don't think this is a civil war. I think this is a attack from the left onto the right. I mean, down the road, maybe it would go tit for tat, but right now, the kinetic violence is coming from one side.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that's civil strife then.

[Tate Brown]

Sure.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Which we are, by most academic assessments, we are in a period of civil strife. It does not mean a civil war will happen. But I think when Charlie Kerr gets assassinated, everyone can plainly see we're at least in a civil strife period.

[Philabonte]

Not only that, I mean, you go two attempts on the president's life, and then there was the Minnesota lawmakers.

[Slow Jack]

Just look at the reactions to big political events.

[Philabonte]

The firebombing of Josh Shapiro's house. And then there's, you know, this Charlie Kirk. Like, it's not like there haven't been significant back and forth kind of attacks on different ideologies from one side or.

[Tate Brown]

The other, but it's, it's, it's not the same. Like, when it's an attack on a left winger, it's like there's always asterisks. When it's an attack on a right winger, it's like everyone endorsing it or when they do give these condemnations, it's like, like there's so many, like, qualifiers on it where it's like, well, you know, he was this bad guy, but we shouldn't kill him.

[Philabonte]

I, I, I mean, I agree. Like, the left does apologize for it a lot more than the right does. But the point that I'm making is that, that we are like, the. Whether or not we're in a period of civil strife is not in question.

[Tate Brown]

No, that's.

[Slow Jack]

Oh, no, that's 100%.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. I'm just, I'm just like, it's not gone kinetic from the right.

[Shane Cashman]

Last year ended with Mangioni.

[Slow Jack]

Right?

[Shane Cashman]

And then, and then the new year happened with.

[Slow Jack]

Should have been a warning, by the way. That should have been a warning.

[Shane Cashman]

January 1st was the new Orleans terror attack and the cyber truck blowing up outside of Trump Tower. Think about all the things that have happened since. And, and so, and like, they went to that terrorist's house and you know, miraculously his Quran was open up to the page on martyrdom. And they let journalists in there. That's a whole other story.

[Philabonte]

It was a truck. Guy in the truck in New Orleans.

[Shane Cashman]

That's what I'm talking about. You know, we've had, and don't even forget about the drones in the sky that, that led up to Manioni. We had the guy who fired upon all those firefighters in Idaho. What you're saying in Minnesota, the Catholic church shooting, I mean, there's other shootings that have happened. The same day Charlie was shot, there was a Colorado school shooting. So it's, that is just happening. It seems like it's happening A much more frequent clip.

[Philabonte]

And a lot of those that, like the, the school shooting, the Catholic school shooting, that was definitely politically motivated because it was a trans person that was attacking Catholics.

[Slow Jack]

Didn't he grow up in a Catholic family or something? Something like that. Some reason to hide it or something.

[Tate Brown]

People that hate the, their fathers.

[Shane Cashman]

But again, that person, that shooter was referencing all these other cult type figures that were mass shooters and they referenced all of them across the political spectrum to where it creates a distortion when, when you hear about it.

[Philabonte]

To, but to, to, to, to Tate's point, the idea that the left, well, the, the fact of the matter is the left doesn't accept a lot of the things that are actually leftist. Like they're trying to deny that this kid was a leftist. They're doing everything they can to swear up and down that he was. Wasn't. They wouldn't say that the, the trans shooters, any of them are politically motivated, even though they have an ideology. That is the exact reason why they hated people and why, the exact reason why they went after the targets. They did.

[Slow Jack]

Just like, if not, if not that, then what? There's no other reason. Like there actually isn't. There's like no other reason. You, you're, you know, the Catholic school saying why. What other reason would you shoot up a Catholic school?

[Philabonte]

Saying that the trans shooters that go and shoot up Catholic school is not political is like saying Dylann Roof going to a, an all black church and shooting all black people is not political. So if you don't, if you think he's just a crazy person and that's not political, then I, then I can say, okay, I disagree. But then I would understand why you would say the trans person is not. But if you think one is political and the other is not, then you're just being dishonest.

[Slow Jack]

No, you know what I Notice these are these leftists. Like when it comes to. I'm musician, I'm in the music thing. One thing I hear a lot from leftists and a lot of this left wing culture is that everything is inherently political. I hear that a lot. I hear that the personal is. How convenient. How convenient. When it's looking bad on your end. It's not political today, but tomorrow some guy in a Trump shirt does something or even just wearing a red hat. It's not even a Trump hat does something.

[Tim Pool]

It's a, it's a.

[Slow Jack]

This.

[Tim Pool]

They. It's.

[Slow Jack]

It's like a light switch, mate. And that's why no one takes them seriously. And that, that's why there's an exodus. It's like the death throes of an insane group of people. That's what it looks like. And going on to your guys's point, you said kinetic energy and I love that. But I was looking just all the energy that you're seeing from all this tension that's been happening. Just look at all the protests that have happened over the past 10 years. All the fire, all the destruction. No one talks about that. In conjunction with this. We have had signs. Luigi Mangione thing. We've seen people die already for political purposes. We've seen people like killings out of, out of spite in the back. People get shot in the back. Like, I'm a Christian, I don't believe anyone should die. And so when I see people going, yeah, kill the. There are much better ways to go about taking care of these problems. That's why we live in the United States of America.

[Tate Brown]

Well, like fundamental. Yeah, well, it's like fundamentally what you're saying is like they don't kill Charlie Kirk if they think they're winning, they kill him. When they're completely demoralized, they feel like the boots on their neck. That's when you strike a cornered animal.

[Slow Jack]

It's the death throws, mate.

[Tate Brown]

It's the death throws. Exactly like you said. Said precisely. So it's like. Yeah, that's exactly what's going on, is they're not, they're not negotiating for. They don't have the higher ground. This is what you do when you know you're on the way out, when.

[Slow Jack]

You'Re demoralized, the backs against the wall. Let me. Let make sure you never forget me. That's what it feels like.

[Shane Cashman]

This is how I look at it. Look, they've always been a death cult, but it's been in the shadows. And I compare it to Ted Bundy Operating in the shadows for so long undetected. And once he's caught, he jumps out of a window, takes a log and just goes crazy.

[Slow Jack]

That's crazy.

[Shane Cashman]

And then they get him.

[Slow Jack]

This. Think about this. I'll go, I'll say one more thing before or I'll let you guys take the wheel. Whatever. So I've been talking, mate, but I look at it, I look at these people. Where was I going with this? Oh, I actually completely forgot. Yeah, backs against the wall. Nope, still forgot. This is why I'm not a podcaster and I just sing songs, mate. I think I had a good point somewhere and it escaped me. Guys, everyone trusts me. I had a sick point clip for you.

[Shane Cashman]

It was a great point.

[Slow Jack]

Someone was like, yeah, but I appreciate you guys.

[Tate Brown]

No, no, I, I knew it was good. I. I knew like, just. We'll cut it and say he had a great, great point.

[Tim Pool]

That was a great point.

[Slow Jack]

But the feed cut out and yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. We'll round it out with probably the straightforward news of all straightforward news. Post Money reports quote, it was me at uvu suspect in Charlie Kirk killing gave apparent confession in a Discord chat saying, hey guys, I have bad news for you all. It was me at UVU yesterday. Let's we'll play the video ports of a confession posted on Discord from Charlie Kirk, suspected assassin hours before. After the murder, but hours before his father turned him in to authorities in Utah. This is Washington Post reporting on this at this point, justice correspondent David Spot.

[Will (Travel Segment Host)]

Joining me now live from Washington.

[Tim Pool]

Hi David. What can you talk about two hours before he was turned into authorities? This according to the Washington Post. We are working to independently confirm this as well. But the Washington Post says that Tyler Robinson, the 22 year old suspect charged in Charlie Kirk's murder, confessed and I want to read this. According to the Washington Post writing on Discord, that social media chat group that the FBI says he used, quote, hey guys, I have bad news for you all. It was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all of this. This coming from the Washington Post now. This comes as DOJ officials began late last week and over the weekend looking at the potential for at least one federal charge. No guarantee they'll get there. A department spokesperson declined comment, but a source familiar said investigators are not ruling anything out at this time, especially his online gaming presence. His chats, as we just mentioned. Who was he talking to? Sounds like they're trying to go after on federal charges by his use of the Internet. But I mean it looks like they got enough evidence. Oh yeah, it's on video. Running away. Dad turned him in.

[Slow Jack]

Same shoes, same gun. Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

I'm still reserving judgment after all the long history of things that have happened.

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Shane Cashman]

I don't, I don't want to actually feel confident with this person. I want to get whoever it is. I think it's a lot of people, but it's too clean for me so far. And the whole Discord thing, they've gone back and forth with what the Discord is about. Well, Discord lied, clearly, so.

[Tim Pool]

But here's the thing. It's not like the movies. People think that if some young guy who has no idea what he's doing manages to get a shot. So apparently he was raised in, in a family that was around guns and he went hunting so he knew how to shoot. It's not, not. It wasn't. People keep. It's. It's okay. People are lying. Being like you to be a pro to make a shot from this, from 150 yards. Google it, look it up. I saw, I've seen little kids make shots like that with 100 accuracy.

[Shane Cashman]

This is the thing though, like when I talk about post reality, you can go online. There's experts saying one thing.

[Tim Pool]

I'll tell you this. We have a range, it's local. I, we used to go there quite a bit. I have watched a 12 year old, I'm not even kidding, it's literal. 12 year old with a bolt action rifle, hit 100 accuracy at about 100 yards.

[Shane Cashman]

To me, it's the angle he was shooting. If it's, if he's at where he was saying over the heads of all those people, I think that is probably a little harder. I mean I've looked at a lot.

[Tim Pool]

Of people say with iron sights. I don't miss. I've got, I've got, I've got a.357 Magnum Winchester.

[Shane Cashman]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

It's my, it's one of my favorite long guns. And at 50 yards, I don't miss iron sights, no skill.

[Shane Cashman]

And I'm reserving judgment because I've seen people who say they're experts saying one thing and experts saying a completely other thing.

[Philabonte]

You should also keep in mind it's likely that he actually missed where he was aiming for 200. At 200 yards, he's, he was very likely aiming center mass because that's generally what you do. And the bullet hit him in the neck. So he actually wasn't trying to shoot him in the neck. Nobody would actually be taking an aim. Or taking aim at the neck. Even professionals, they would be aiming for the face, which they call the T, which is basically between the eyes.

[Tim Pool]

Even. That's rare.

[Philabonte]

Yeah, even rare. Yeah. But at 200 yards, it's. It's doable for a pro. But he was aiming here and he. And he got him in the net.

[Tim Pool]

There are two arguments. One is that from the angle, there was actually going to be a lift in that what he was aiming for would actually hit higher.

[Slow Jack]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So he was. So that argument, he was aiming center mass, and when it fired, it actually went a little bit higher because he actually wasn't a particularly good shot. The other argument is that he didn't account for drop and was aiming for the head. Right. Now, only thing I can say is this. Forget all the experts. I can tell you this, Shane, I will bring you out to the range. Have you ever. Do you have any training?

[Shane Cashman]

A little bit, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Okay. So I guarantee you within an hour or two, you're gonna hit 100 of your shots with a scoped bolt action.

[Shane Cashman]

Still have a lot of questions about just this. This guy being a lone wolf a ton.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think he's a lone wolf.

[Shane Cashman]

And I'm still reserving judgment on him being an actual shooter. I think there's too many weird things. How he knew where the tent would be set up when he got there. When did he get there?

[Tim Pool]

No, that's.

[Shane Cashman]

He parked in the morning because last time.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no.

[Slow Jack]

Hold on.

[Tim Pool]

This. These events are planned well in advance.

[Shane Cashman]

You don't know where the tent's gonna be.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, you do.

[Shane Cashman]

You think?

[Tim Pool]

I think they have to submit a ground floor plan for security well in advance. So. Right.

[Shane Cashman]

How did he get that?

[Tim Pool]

So knew somebody. I don't think he was working alone.

[Shane Cashman]

From three hours away. So then the network is that big.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is what. This is what I'm saying. Like this. Everyone keeps saying stuff like in. And I mean this respectfully, not. But in ign, how could he have known where the tent is going to be? Because two months out, they submitted their security plan to the university and they said, here's where Charlie will be. And so somewhat the school said it's going to be so cool when Charlie shows up. They're going to put him right in the pavilion. Something that simple. So I'm traveling and we're a month out and I'm coordinating with security, travel, vehicle, all of this stuff a month away from me just going to a new city. So for this, what does it look like? A young guy radicalized online who has trans friends, hears over and over again how Charlie Kirk wants to kill trans people. Because the left keeps saying and then gets it in his mind to go and kill Charlie. It is also kind of my concern with, with Charlie's security, honestly, is that they chose the center of the pavilion, right in the middle, creating line of sight from all the surrounding buildings. But the truth is Charlie genuinely didn't think this was gonna happen. Which is sad and kind of crazy because I gotta be honest, neither did I. And we talk about the violence all the time and I still didn't think it was possible when we do. Listen, Alex Stein and I were going to go to a university in three weeks and do quite literally the exact same thing. And we didn't. And we planned this. The plan for this has been four or five months out. So it's entirely likely that the universe we were going to was well aware of where Alex and I were going to be, where it was likely going to be set up very, very easily. And now we're canceling because of what happened to Charlie. We didn't consider it possible.

[Shane Cashman]

So you think someone leaks that information from the school to someone in a chat?

[Tim Pool]

I don't think you need to leak it, dude.

[Shane Cashman]

It's like, I don't think it's that public.

[Tim Pool]

I think there's a 27 year old who is coordinating watering the grass with security, who said make sure you don't park anything over here because we're going to have this thing with tp saying he's gonna be speaking here. And he went, okay. And this, it's just everyone knows it's not compartmentalized. So I think people, they see these things, they think it's gotta be like a movie. How is he? How was the guy caught? Well, let's be honest, I do respect the work that Cash and Dan had been doing personally going out, but he got turned in. So apparently the story is they couldn't figure out who it was. They watched all the surveillance footage. They, against the the advice of other agents, put out the images of the suspect and then the father turned him in. And I guess what happened was the kid said the shooter. I guess the story is, I don't know. And this could be false too. It's still early that he would rather die than go to jail. And the dad physically restrained him until the police could come and get him. And the principal reason and Bannon and Luke Rudkowski have ragged on the FBI for this the principal reason dude got caught was because his family turned him in, not because of hardcore groundwork from the feds. I don't think that's, that's fair. I think they worked really hard on this, but it's actually the simple solution. He didn't really know what he was doing. He didn't really plan. He was telling his friends because he didn't know how to react. It's not that planned out. However, I do agree with you that I don't believe a lot of this when they're saying he acted alone. You have messages from people on social media that clearly knew it was gonna happen. I think he was bragging about it. I think he knew. And then when it came to this Discord stuff, there's a couple potentials he was talking to people in the discord he had not previously communicated with. Or it could be that his trans roommate had been saying, hey, he's going to go do it to these people in advance. So then when he came in, there's a lot of ways we can look at it. I do think one of the more interesting conspiracy theories is that the trans roommate is the actual shooter and this Robinson guy said these things in Discord to intentionally take the fall. Don't know. Still a conspiracy theory. Official reporting is that this guy all in all likelihood is the person who did it. For all we know that when they say that here, people need to consider about online messages as evidence. Social media posts are interesting because they originate from different places in different areas. So that's hard to fake. However, if you live with someone, he the this is why I find this conspiracy theory interesting. Not that I think it's true, but it is something considered the trans roommate is the actual shooter. That's the conspiracy theory. I'm not saying it's true, but how easy would it be for the roommate to go into this guy's room, go on his, open his laptop and say it was me, I did it. And then run to the other room and then go, oh, I'm so shocked. I can't believe he did it. Look, he said it in Discord that proves it. And Cash and everybody are like open and shut case.

[Shane Cashman]

That's why I'm reserving judgment and I just have lots of questions.

[Tate Brown]

But I mean, they found DNA on the towel that wrapped the gun that matched the shooter.

[Shane Cashman]

And that's why I said nothing to me yet.

[Tim Pool]

And that's why I say and also considering they said it, I don't know how you prove it to the public, but you trust Cash. Right? But that's why I say the Israel stuff, the Griper stuff, it's just like, whatever, man. That's so circuitous and goes to such a weird path to make true. The trans roommate conspiracy theory is interesting because of course they found his DNA. The trans roommate took his towel. It's just not complicated. Someone you lived with doing it, and they have similar builds and similar appearance. And that's why the conspiracy theory exists. Again, I'm not saying it's true.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, I just. People are going to manipulate you right now with everything they put out. Like we were talking about earlier with that video where you were saying it's not people on the roof, there's other people saying it's a palm gun. Like they're flooding the zone with so much bad information. The one thing possible to believe anything.

[Tim Pool]

The one thing I do find interesting is, and this is very difficult, is the, the. The 30 out 6 impact on Charlie. That's a massive bullet.

[Slow Jack]

Huge.

[Tim Pool]

And so I'm curious what you think, Phil. It's difficult to get into detail, but there have been posts online where they say, how could a.30 06 make this kind of wound? They would have expected some kind of different. Depends what's in it.

[Philabonte]

Yeah, I mean, you can look online and see like hunting videos of dudes hunting with.30 06. And when they hit a deer, like I. Someone was talking about, oh, like it would have blown up his neck and blah, blah, blah. I mean, look it. I don't know exactly where these people are getting these ideas, but seriously, you can go to Google or go to YouTube, there's a ton of videos of dudes hunting. When a. Even a big boar, like a, like a.300 Winchester, like, which is bigger than a 30 out six, like it doesn't explode.

[Shane Cashman]

There's people comparing a watermelon exploding.

[Philabonte]

Yeah, like a body, a watermelon.

[Shane Cashman]

They're thinking that that will happen to a neck.

[Philabonte]

Yeah, that's. It's a totally different thing. Like you've got, you've got bone, you've got muscles. Don't react the same way.

[Slow Jack]

More dense than a watermelon.

[Tim Pool]

What's crazy me about this is that this actually is a fairly simple case. There's one of the original videos showing the dude on the roof. It was someone filming during the event going. And you can hear them go, is there a dude on that roof?

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So that's why they started filming it. And we got that footage after the fact because they didn't think anything of it until it happened and went, oh, dude, I filmed that. Holy crap. Then there's video footage we've all seen of the dude running across the roof and then climbing down and running away. There's the video of the dude walking with a limp, seemingly trying to hide the rifle. I understand it's, it's a little bit more difficult for the FBI to release all of the incriminating evidence because they want to build a case against it this. But I think they've been fairly transparent. Here's the sad thing I met, I've met over the weekend. I talked to a lot of people. I've had people who recognize me. It's about three people over the, over the weekend ask me if it was real. Not kidding. They said, did, did that really happen? And I was like, yes. And like, for real. And I was like, I'm on the phone with friends who are crying their eyes out because their friend died. Yeah, this really happened. But there are people who think it was staged, it was faked. There's people posting these videos where they're arguing that Charlie is still alive. It's just wild.

[Slow Jack]

They're even, they're even getting footage of.

[Tim Pool]

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[Slow Jack]

Charlie's body in the casket. After the. The mortuaries covered him in makeup. They're like, his skin's too yellow. People are being weird, and they're. And the whole plane thing, you guys hear about the plane, everyone's like, there's this plane that went down. It's just. It's strange, mate. And, yeah, especially that mortuary one. People just need to look into it. They cover you in makeup, and your skin changes color, and that's. That's part of the process of embalming.

[Tim Pool]

Apparently, the person who took the private jet flight has issued a big statement. Being like, we were. We were taxiing. Like, we. It was me and these people. These are people that were on it. We have nothing to do with anything. I think. I think for a lot of people, it's just hard to believe that it was so simple. A radicalized guy penetrated security and ended the life of this giant. I don't think people understand because I think the reason people want to believe in conspiracy in the story is because it's hard to believe that one. It's hard for people to believe Charlie is gone. Those who actually liked him or cared about him. And for a lot of people, they don't want to believe that any day, at any point, you could be walking down the street, you get on a subway train, and sit down while you're on your phone, and a man behind you will jump up and knife you in the neck three times. People don't want to believe that's possible. That couldn't happen to Charlie, but it does.

[Slow Jack]

Yep. Yep.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah. Also, just one more thing. I just feel like there are also a group of people who don't want to see this investigation end. There are a lot of people who take joy in. In massacres and. And just in. They enjoy the. The process of figuring it out. And they like to create. Like you were talking about with the red. The red string. They like to create these tapestries of ideas and things like that. And to me, you know, I see them. You know, you see them online.

[Tim Pool]

They're like, but it's going to be this.

[Slow Jack]

It's going to be. I see a lot of people take a good amount of joy in seeing. Seeing things unfold, and they don't really want the drama to end. And I feel like people forget about people like that a lot. You see them everywhere, you know, it's a good point.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we're gonna go to your Rumble rants and super chats. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. And don't forget that uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 o'.

[Slow Jack]

Clock.

[Tim Pool]

So go to timcast.com and click join us to get in our Discord community. The only way to counter the AI fake video photo garbage revolution is to build community with other humans. And it's a start. We're working on our clubhouse and our coffee shop. But for now timcast.com, get in that Discord server. Hang out with like minded individuals. There's pre shows after shows and you can call in and talk to us and our guest. Don't forget that uncensored show is Rumble Premium. Use promo code TIM10 and sign up today. All right, what do y' all have to say? My friends, Kremit says love you Tim. Thank you for doing what you do. Really do appreciate it and I will just stress to these leftists who are claiming that the right doesn't fear death. We have very serious security issues all the time. We have security guards frisking people. It is, it is. It's crazy. It's, it's, it's absolutely crazy.

[Slow Jack]

Non stop.

[Tim Pool]

Shane H. Wilder says thanks to all who joined the ex prayer space for Charlie Sunday or listened later. It was worth losing my voice for. Side note, Texans chose a moment of silence for all victims of violence and the floods.

[Shane Cashman]

Tim, I'm gonna run out and do my show, but I want to say everyone confronted evil this, this past week.

[Slow Jack]

Yes.

[Shane Cashman]

And it was nice to see churches overflowing with people because they couldn't deny the fact that evil is so present in this fallen world. So God bless all you guys. We'll be at Inverted world live at 10 o' clock tonight. See you guys later.

[Tim Pool]

And it's time to bring back exorcisms, mass exorcisms. And everyone's response is. Tim, they still do them. I know they do make do. More.

[Shane Cashman]

Way more. All right, see you.

[Slow Jack]

Get these ghouls out of here, mate.

[Tim Pool]

All right, Short wave says with all the violent rhetoric. I would like to ask the guest his views on the amount of drop bear attacks.

[Slow Jack]

Let me guess who you talking about, mate. You talking about me? Drop Bears only attack tourists, mate. Never seen them. They only attack tourists who drink Fosters, mate. So watch out. Love the Drop Bears, mate.

[Tim Pool]

I heard you guys don't actually even have Fosters in Australia. Is that true?

[Slow Jack]

That's actually. Yeah, it's true. So basically what Fossils is. It's a novelty beer. I don't know if it was a beer that Australians drank originally, but we drink. We have State beers, we have vb. I grew up in Victoria, small town called Bendigo.

[Tim Pool]

Country town.

[Slow Jack]

You drink VB there. Some places will drink Great Northern, some place will drink Forex Gold. But there is a beer called Fosters that is renowned across the world for being Australia's beer. Really all it is, it's a tourist beer for British people. There are more people in the UK that drink Fosters and drinking at bars than in the entire of Australia. No one. You don't. You don't see it on tap. You don't see it anywhere, mate. So I might. Don't fall for conspiracy theories.

[Tim Pool]

I love you. I love you, Giordano's. But I'm gonna say that about Giordano's. In Chicago, deep dish pizza, you go to the. You go to the average person who's never been to Chicago or not from Chicago, and they think pizza in Chicago is all deep dish. And they're like, oh, yeah, I don't like Chicago pizza. When Chicago pizza is actually all Tavern pizza. It's all finished.

[Slow Jack]

Tavern. Is that like the wood, the stone oven?

[Tim Pool]

No, no, it's just thin crust that's kind of. That's kind of firm and it's cut into squares.

[Slow Jack]

I like that. I had that in Chicago when I was there on Tula. That's what it was.

[Tim Pool]

That's like 99 pizza pizza. But then everyone thinks that Chicago pizza is this big pie, because.

[Slow Jack]

Soupy, saucy thing.

[Tim Pool]

No, it's not necessarily soupy. What they do is, it's a. It's a. The crust is like this tall, and they put a bunch of cheese in it, put dough over the top, and then put sauce on top. And so it's this thick pie. And it's for tourists.

[Slow Jack]

Right, Right. That's a similar thing.

[Tim Pool]

Then Uno's Pizzeria. Uno's. We actually got an Uno's out here. It's delicious. I do like it. But in. In Chicago, when you're like, let's order pizza pizza, you're gonna get a large, thin crust. Here's the crazy thing. People don't understand New York pizza. The crust is like lifted up. Right. It raises.

[Slow Jack]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You order Papa John's, you get that thick crust on the end, doughy, and then you can. You can stuff it with cheese. Yeah, Chicago pizza can't do that. Chicago pizza crust doesn't rise, and it's as thin as the rest of the crust. And it's like a cracker.

[Slow Jack]

It's like almost like a shortbread. It's, like, dense.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Slow Jack]

Interesting.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Slow Jack]

See, I've. I think I've had something similar. I was in Chicago, like, you know, like, this is a change of subject. Sorry if anyone is from Philly, mate. But the only American staple food that I can't bloody do, mate, is that Philly cheesesteak. I love my Philly people. Got a lot of fans in Philly. But seriously, mate, it's like this dinner roll with this meat and some cheese whiz on it, bro. I'm like, america, what?

[Philabonte]

The cheese whiz is the wrong way to go. I. There are people in Philly that.

[Slow Jack]

What did I say?

[Shane Cashman]

Whiz.

[Slow Jack]

Whit.

[Philabonte]

Yeah. They say wit whiz, but, like, and that's the wrong. You go with. Go with the provolone. They're like, some people get. There are people in Philly that will swear up and down that it's not a Philly cheesesteak unless it's cheese whiz. I think that those people are evil. They're the devil. Listen to them.

[Slow Jack]

You're responsible for the full of.

[Philabonte]

Go with the provolone. The provolone is delicious.

[Slow Jack]

Good, mate. We don't have much provolone.

[Tate Brown]

Provolone's a psyop. Stick with the cheese whiz.

[Slow Jack]

Controversy.

[Tate Brown]

It's like, yeah, this fed.

[Philabonte]

You're not from Philly, are you?

[Tate Brown]

No, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna stand up for the Philly heads. Memphis, and we have a lot of worst tourist traps. Yeah, it's. You know, But Trump's gonna say, you.

[Slow Jack]

Guys aren't allowed to have cars. They just end up with that wheel.

[Tim Pool]

It's true.

[Tate Brown]

Cinder block Americans.

[Philabonte]

Usually people from Memphis have better opinions than that.

[Tate Brown]

Well, I don't know about that. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's read some more.

[Tate Brown]

Going in.

[Tim Pool]

David Flores says, if you allow your kids to follow destiny, you should be arrested for child abuse.

[Slow Jack]

Facts.

[Tim Pool]

That's a grand.

[Slow Jack]

That's a gray one. Mine.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. Was it who. Who sent me the messages from his kid? I did. Was that. That was. That was Phil.

[Philabonte]

They were some tweets from Destiny's kid that just are brutal to see.

[Tim Pool]

I. I saying he doesn't love his mom or his dad, and he didn't. He had to raise himself because his dad abandoned him so he could sext women online.

[Slow Jack]

He said he sounds like a solid bloke.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Slow Jack]

Sounds like a good dad. You can you can judge a man based on how he treats his children.

[Philabonte]

He's got. I mean, the kid's got legitimate grievance grievances, you know.

[Slow Jack]

Oh, yeah. I'd be pissed at him if my dad was Destiny. I'd honestly, I wouldn't tell anybody. Not only.

[Philabonte]

Not only is it destiny, but destiny abandoned him so that Imagine.

[Slow Jack]

Imagine your dad being the cuck lord. Destiny, mate.

[Tim Pool]

Good Creed.

[Slow Jack]

Then destiny abandoning you. That's just like.

[Tate Brown]

It's not.

[Slow Jack]

That's not.

[Tim Pool]

That's not. I can see why you'd be angry.

[Tate Brown]

My dad's name is Destiny. Like, what are we doing?

[Tim Pool]

Is it a stripper?

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But, you know, even if Pierce Morgan looks like a bit of a Steven.

[Tate Brown]

Steven does look like.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's go. GI Jeep says, anybody got the number for a good national divorce attorney?

[Slow Jack]

Hello?

[Tim Pool]

Just because I'm free says, remember the polls that said 55 had said they were okay with the killing of Donald Trump. A majority of Democrats are beyond unifying with.

[Tate Brown]

Yep, Fact check. True.

[Slow Jack]

That's true. There were signs. There were signs so early on. And. And I feel foolish for not hating the signs and really, like, getting prepared mentally for what was to come because we saw death and predictive predictions of death and celebrations of near death for the past.

[Tate Brown]

Luigi was the litmus test.

[Slow Jack]

Oh, that was like. That was. That was like. That was the warning. That was like, hello, People are dying.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Misfit Bratz is 5150 laws in every state. Involuntary commitment to an asylum. Because this is literally not reality. These people are out here having full schizophrenic episodes like it's normal. Criminal threats, too. I agree. Like, you know, people talk about needing new laws all the time. No. No, you don't. If. If somebody is posting online violent threats and they believe things that are objectively false. 5150. They are a threat to themselves and to others, and they clearly are delusional. I asked the. The mental health professionals in the culture war, what if someone's delusions aren't rooted in brain dysfunction, but in being told lies? It doesn't matter. It's still called a delusion. It is still diagnosed as delusion. So the only problem with that is the left is going to do it. And I suppose it's fair to say they'll do it anyway. They are. They're going to claim that they've already tried this. They've already. There already been leftists that have claimed that if you're a conservative, you have a mental illness and So I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction they want to go as justification for why they're going to lock you up. Red flag laws.

[Slow Jack]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

All right, guys, Macius says there needs to be a deep dive into Twitch. Yes.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah, I agree.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I. Doesn't Amazon own Twitch?

[Slow Jack]

The US I didn't know that.

[Tim Pool]

So we need to hold Amazon accountable for what they're allowing on that platform, because the people who run it clearly are okay with it.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So everybody's. Everybody. You know, let me say this right now to everybody. They're all, like, finding these regular people and calling their jobs and getting them fired. Fine, whatever. I don't care. You all need to call Amazon, cancel your orders, and stop using it until they.

[Slow Jack]

They.

[Tim Pool]

Until they force Twitch to course. Correct. I don't care if these people are allowed to do their thing and say whatever they want to say. Now, when they advocate for murder, we're.

[Slow Jack]

Inadvertently funding the whole operation. So to me, I'm just like, I'm gonna boycott, boycott, boycott. Mate, that's not even in my nature. I'm usually just like, whatever, but yeah, mate.

[Tim Pool]

SERP says the left canceled NASCAR driver Connor Daly in 2018 after his dad had been found. To him, I'm adding, that used a racial slur during a radio interview in the 80s. Now they're shocked they lose their job for cheering an assassination. That's right. That's a great cancel culture, Tim.

[Slow Jack]

That's. That's inherited guilt, mate. That's inherited. What's that like, inherited cancellation? I don't think I've seen that. That's a rare one. Your dad did something in the 80s. Therefore, right now, 2018, you said you're done.

[Tim Pool]

Sailor Motoko says if you've been paying attention to Candace, you'd see it's because she has lost her effing mind. Neatho. Says, Tim, Candace Owens has taken so many red pills, she's overdosed. She is batish crazy now.

[Slow Jack]

Dude, your. Your fans are brutal.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, half of them like Candace. I met Candace a couple years ago when on her show, and I thought she was incredibly intelligent and insightful. I have not watched her show as of recent, so I don't want to say I know exactly what she's saying, nor impugn her honor, because I don't know.

[Slow Jack]

I don't know much.

[Tim Pool]

And that's fair. I didn't watch her. Her video, so. But I still think my. My principal critique is the thumbnail saying they're lying about Charlie Kirk with A picture of Netanyahu at a time when there's people trying to claim Israel did it. And I've seen some exposts where the insinuation is that Israel did it, which I think is silly. But, you know, I'm not going to throw away all the work that she's done over one bad video or one video I'm criticizing, but, you know, there you go. I'll take your word for it, I guess. Seraphim says the CIA and government in general have admitted to experimenting on us. We have no reason to trust the government. You are correct. Like in the Bay Area when they sprayed bacteria all over a bunch of people and got them sick. Or how about when Facebook was caught running experiments on the political perceptions of individuals by intentionally putting political ideology in their feeds. We're cooked. That's crazy.

[Slow Jack]

Die.

[Tim Pool]

Lazy Bone says odd. A DNA found in the towel that wrapped the gun, but not on the weapon. Does not cooperate with FBI. But left a note pre killing Kirk, which is destroyed after but able to get fragments giving content. I thought the. The statement about killing Kirk was on Discord. Yeah, yeah, they found. They. So they did a forensic search and found evidence of the statement.

[Slow Jack]

Right.

[Philabonte]

There's a. There's a lot of people.

[Tim Pool]

Real quick. This corroborates the foreknowledge of these individuals on social media. The individual had said that they had a chance to do it and they were going to do it. And wasn't it it at like, didn't they say that message was from a while before Kirk went there?

[Philabonte]

Actually, I don't recall.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it's weird. People look at all these posts and they're like, he had foreknowledge. How did these people know in advance? Then cash comes out and he's like, he had written a message saying he was going to do it some time ago. Deleted, but we found it. And they're like, nah, this seems too weird. I'm like, no, it actually makes perfect sense.

[Philabonte]

I was reading somewhere that there's. That there are more messages in Discord that the FBI hasn't released and that they haven't made people interesting because they got.

[Tim Pool]

They want to produce, like, produce. They got to go investigate those people in the chat room. Exactly.

[Philabonte]

So that means that more information will come.

[Tim Pool]

So, yeah, just tip of the iceberg right now.

[Slow Jack]

The children, the case and all, everything.

[Philabonte]

Pull your jets there your time, guys.

[Tim Pool]

Mytho says Tim. Part of basic Training in the USMC is a standing course at 200 meters with iron sights on an M16A2, five rounds, five minutes. Minutes. I could hit that shot standing. Any veteran can make that shot in their sleep.

[Philabonte]

Yeah, it's not a. It's not a particularly hard shot.

[Shane Cashman]

No.

[Tim Pool]

And that's why it's crazy. We, We've had people come here all frantic be. And, and like, not like, I'm not. I don't say disparagingly, but like I said be like. And that shot was professional. Right? And I'm like, no, people always say that. I was like, we can take you out to the range. It's. It's really close. It's. It's literally a five minute drive. And you, good sir, who have never fired a gun in your life, you will make that shot with about an hour's practice. I gotta be completely honest. They might make it on their first go. Yep. Sitting at a table with a bolt action stabilized, looking through a scope. Now the response then is, yeah, but how could he have made it if he was scared and nervous prone and looking down, I'm like, because he had a month of training.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If not before, when he was actually.

[Slow Jack]

Just shooting guns with his parents and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

They all say we're conservative and right wing and push all this stuff.

[Slow Jack]

Especially since these types of people are actually insane. And I don't think they have any kind of. We don't, we don't have any right to go. They're probably nervous. I think, you know, he's going to kill a guy. I don't think he's, you know, he's sitting on top of a roof, he's like, I'm a killer guy today. I think he's like, I hope I don't miss. You know, he's just like, not only.

[Tim Pool]

That, but there's, there's. What is it? MAOI inhibitors. What do they take? People pop a pill before they're gonna go speak because it stops anxiety. Like beta blockers, beta blockers.

[Slow Jack]

Call that. I'll call that 3B, but I'll let you guys talk about the ballistic stuff. We don't have guns in Australia. They. They don't let us have anything, so.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, you're a nation of criminals.

[Slow Jack]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Philabonte]

You guys are rebels.

[Shane Cashman]

We're the criminals, mate.

[Tim Pool]

Omega recesser says no fill bullet drop. He was aiming for the face and it went low. And he wasn't using the drop compensator marking on the scope. In fact, the Mauser isn't that accurate with a MOA of three out of the box.

[Philabonte]

And so what? An MOA is it's or three MOA is three inches at 100 yards. So at 200 yards it would be a variance of six inches. I mean, look, maybe you could be right. I don't know what was in his head. I don't know where he was aiming.

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[Tim Pool]

GOPE was configured to be accurate at 100 yards and this was 150. So he didn't compensate for for bullet drop which at 150 yards would be one and a half to two inches.

[Philabonte]

And also if you're aiming down, there's a, there's a variation as to point of aim, point of impact. So there's, there's a bunch of stuff that could go into it. I don't know where he was actually aiming. I'm just.

[Tim Pool]

And I, I think it actually makes sense. It makes sense if you were to argue that he wasn't professional, he was amateur because he aimed for the head.

[Philabonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I think, you know, a, a professional hitman or sniper is going to go chest, I'd imagine. Right?

[Slow Jack]

Yeah.

[Philabonte]

I mean, it. Well, it depends if it's a pro. If it's a pro and he's got like good equipment, he can decide to put it in his nose if he wants. But if it's a dude with, especially at that range. Yeah. Because a 200 yards isn't far. But if you're, you know, if you, if you're not a pro, it makes sense that you would be aiming.

[Tim Pool]

I, I real quick, I wonder if the people who are saying that have ever been on a football field. Honestly question, honest question. Because, you know, like when I, when I watch football games on tv, I was like, it's a big field. Wow. And then I got invited to the LA Coliseum and I went down there, I was like, wow, this is tiny.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah, it's really small. Really small and thin. It's strange. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I kicked a 30 yard field goal.

[Slow Jack]

Congratulations.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we all did. Like me a bunch of guys. I'm not saying we did it right away. We all took a crack at it and we are like, you know, we got it.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah. That's representative of like how little training and stuff it takes to hit the target from 30.

[Tim Pool]

30 yards is not far.

[Slow Jack]

Not let alone a, let alone a. A settled weapon. That's with a scope and all the attachments that allow it to be super stable.

[Tim Pool]

I was actually, but I was actually surprised when I was saying on the field that like 30 was a lot shorter than I thought it was.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah, the TV makes that long, mate, that makes it look long on the football field. But you go there, it's just like, whoa.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Like actually this building that we're in from front to back is more is about. It's 33 yards.

[Slow Jack]

Is that why? Yeah, Right.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting. Yeah. And we, we chuck stuff across the building easily. It's not very big.

[Slow Jack]

Rugby field's a bit longer than that, brother. You're South African, right? Yeah, brother.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's grab some of these super chats over on YouTube. Make sure we get you guys. Joe Spinell says, we shall have peace when the left answer for the sacking of the westfold and the children that lie there. What is that a reference to something?

[Slow Jack]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

J.D. vance, probably. I don't know know J.D.

[Slow Jack]

Vance.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Slow Jack]

Give him a chance.

[Tim Pool]

Elaine says ask AI to see if the ADL consider antifa as left wing. I have argued with Grock so much about ADL bias and its use as a base for fake stats. And it's really funny too, because Chat GPT and Grock, like, so obviously lie to you. Yeah, it's remarkable. You're. You're like, ask it about George Floyd and then ask about Charlie Kirk. And you're going to be like, why the double standard. Standard robot.

[Tate Brown]

Real weird. You'll be like, you lied. And they're like, yeah, my bad. Sorry about that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, dude, I do that, dude.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I know.

[Tim Pool]

Here's what you want. Here's what you wanted you to do. Ask it about James O' Keefe and then ask it about how chat. Ask ChatGPT about James O' Keefe and Alex Jones. Then ask ChatGPT about how it was accused of goading a teenager into committing suicide and you will see it reacts like a frantic, frantic person who was slighted. It's amazing. It'll be like, Alex Jones was accused of this. That means it's true. And you'll say, well, it's not true, it's just an accusation. I'll say, yeah, well, it was reported as true, so it must be, and I'm speaking figuratively, it'll give you chatgpt language, insinuating truth. Then when you ask it about how it's reported to have goaded a teenager to committing suicide, it will immediately go defensive, say, none of that is true. It was an accusation that has not been proven in court and so long. It's not been proven to court. You can't act like it's true.

[Slow Jack]

That's freaky. Especially since the young generations are becoming more dependent on AI as their Google and just as their general knowledge base. Have you seen, like, some of these kids at school? Apparently, like, nowadays, teachers, you know, trying to ban CHAT GBT because all these kids are just doing all their tests with it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it's worse than that.

[Slow Jack]

So. So. But think about that. You think about all the. Maybe it's bias, maybe it's just errors, I don't know. But just the general backtrack. It feels like a human who's intentionally messing with you. And the kids are looking at that as their truth.

[Tim Pool]

You know, the teachers are actually making the tests on ChatGPT. The students are then using CHAT GPT to finish the tests, and the teachers then grade the tests with ChatGPT. So no one is actually learning brains.

[Slow Jack]

Yeah, man. Well, you look at bro in. In Australia, we got newspapers. You can tell. You know how you can tell with the chat. Gbt. Pasture techs have those. Those dashes. They got those.

[Tate Brown]

M dash.

[Slow Jack]

M dash. Dude. Who uses that? Apart from a robot. It's the correct form of grammar. But I've been. I've been seeing whole newspapers, especially my hometown down. They'd be using it. I'm like, so is. Is anybody real anymore? You know, you speak to a journalist, it's like, what do you do? He's like, I'm looking for a job. You know? You know, so many journalists who out here got jobs, you know, it's crazy. But yeah, chat. Gbt, mate. Techno overlords.

[Tim Pool]

Let's see, we got Tessa Lynn says, my center left Son, 32, came kicking and screaming to the right over the progressive response to Charlie's death.

[Slow Jack]

Attaboy.

[Tim Pool]

That's why I was like, maybe Destiny is actually just like a griper and it's an act. And the reason why his kid's a griper is because he raised him to be. And it's all an act. And I'm like, if you want to convince a moderate liberal that the left are liars and evil, all you got to do is show her destiny's. Show. Show her or him. And they're going to be like, yeah, I don't want anything to do with it. Yeah. And so he's like, doing a big favor for the right by saying, quote, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second place term.

[Shane Cashman]

Man, that's a crazy quote.

[Slow Jack]

That's the wildest thing I think I've heard for a while. Yeah, it's just ridiculous. It's just. I don't understand how you could make that in good faith and not expect anything crazy to come from that. I. I reckon. Personally, I think he has, like, a brain problem where he can't think before he speaks, because he does that a lot. Dude, he just rattles off, says the quiet part out loud all the time.

[Shane Cashman]

You mean spurgs out?

[Slow Jack]

Is that what they say? Spurgs out? I spend too much time touching grass. I don't play video games or nothing, so I don't know what that means.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we'll grab one more more. Oops, says Tim. I hear what you were saying about Israel being a red herring and the Kirk assassination, but Candace opened up about how closer her and Charlie were to one another. Quote, we. We took over 200 flights together. Absolutely. Fair point. I did not know Charlie that well. I Consider him a friend. But I want to stress this, I said every time it's not like I called him to go golfing or anything like that. I literally texted him a week ago. You know, he had texted me with words of encouragement in the past and we worked together on certain projects. I knew that I and my team could rely on him and his team and so I consider him a friend. He wasn't just some guy that I had met one time or anything like that. So I, I, absolutely, again, I want to stress I, I like Candace. I, I don't watch a lot of her show and I'm careful. I, I, I will say fair point, I'm critical of that that thumbnail because it doesn't sinuate that Israel did or something that affect but I didn't watch it so I'll give it a that. But there are certainly many people I would more heavily criticize overtly and easily. But all I can say is that when I've the interactions I've had with Candace, she's been insightful and intelligent and if I don't know, I, I, I don't want to insult her having not watched a video. That's not fair. So I'll put it after this. Yeah, but some other people made those posts about Israel that were overt.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

You know, and again, with all due respect to Ian Care, I like the guy as well, but I, I, I messaged him when he posted that Israel did it. I'm like, come on, bro. All right, we're going to go to the Uncensored members only show. So join our discord [e-mail] we want, we want you to join us to be part of this conversation because you can call in and talk to us and our guest and head over to rumble.com timcast IRL. That's where it will be. Join Rumble Premium using promo code TIM10. You'll get 10 bucks off and follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast. More importantly, I got a video for you guys. Guys, head over to YouTube.com impool I put up a video today titled it's time to bring back exorcisms. Now I know they never went away. We've talked about it. It's a half an hour video where I talk about my views on demons, possession, evil, a little bit about faith, but why I think demon and possession is real. I do, I believe in God and all that stuff. But that's a video you guys should check out and subscribe to that channel. Channel. It's just Tim Poole on YouTube.

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[Tim Pool]

Slow Jack. You want to shout anything out?

[Slow Jack]

Yeah. I got a show on October 17th in Nashville. I make rock music. So if none of you guys know me, that's what I do, mate. I'm not just an Aussie here to be a bit silly. I'm playing at the Cannery Hall October 17th. I hope to see you there. But apart from that, appreciate you guys having me on. It's like my second ever podcast ever, mate.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, there you go.

[Slow Jack]

It's crazy. So I'm just. I'm sitting in here like listening to you guys. I'm like. I feel like the stooge in the room. Like, yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. But means a lot, guys.

[Tim Pool]

It works out.

[Slow Jack]

I've been a fan for a long time. This is sick. I feel like I'm in a dream, mate.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, you. Raw dog.

[Slow Jack]

Hours of sleep, the 5am fly. But I feel like I'm like, when will I wake up?

[Philabonte]

M. You know, I've been to Australia for a couple tours and those flights are a killer in the morning.

[Slow Jack]

Oh my. Those 15 hours. Don't tell me about it.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Real Tape. Brown Mass Exorcisms. I agree. Never surrender or Phil.

[Philabonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Slow Jack]

You love the host.

[Tim Pool]

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