WE ARE TAKING CUBA w/ Priya Patel

Summary

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Timcast IRL: "WE ARE TAKING CUBA" w/ Priya Patel

Date: February 28, 2026
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Priya Patel, Brett Dasovic, Ian Crossland, Carter Banks

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Episode Overview

This episode of Timcast IRL features social media content creator and political commentator Priya Patel. The panel debates Trump’s "friendly takeover" comments about Cuba, declining US birth rates, airport dress codes, immigration, the consolidation of legacy media, and the future of culture, tech, and AI. As always, discussions are uncensored and lively, blending political analysis with cultural commentary and the show's signature dry wit.

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Major Discussion Topics

1. Trump’s "Friendly Takeover" of Cuba

Timestamps: 06:00–24:18

• News Context: Trump recently floated the idea of a "friendly takeover" of Cuba as the island faces economic crisis and political isolation.

• Panel Take: Debate over whether Cuba could become a US territory, what a "friendly takeover" means, and its potential geopolitical, cultural, and economic implications.

• Historical Context: Comparisons to Greenland, Puerto Rico, and the legacy of the Monroe Doctrine.

• Key Quote:

  • Tim Pool (06:00): “Trump floats friendly takeover of Cuba…what do you guys think the chances of actual Cuba becoming a territory are?”
  • Priya Patel (07:25): “I think they're relatively high and growing...I know that this is a very popular position among a lot of them [Cubans].”
  • Ian Crossland (10:02): “The Castro regime really, really seized and stole that country for 60 years...at some point you kind of gotta protect your own, you know, your assets and your localities.”

• Monroe Doctrine: Tim links this policy to a renewed US focus on hemispheric affairs given Europe's demographic changes.

• Panel Jokes:

  • Brett Dasovic (11:13): “Maybe he just really wants Pitbull to do the Super Bowl halftime show.”

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2. Declining US Birth Rates and Societal Nihilism

Timestamps: 24:18–38:56

• News Context: NYT headline on plunging US birthrates, with speculation about economic, social, and ideological causes.

• Economic Anxiety: Panel agrees that the economy and difficulty affording homes, family life, and upward mobility are key drivers.

• Cultural Influence:

  • Priya Patel and Tim blame feminism, forced workforce participation, and the messaging that women “can do it all” as cultural contributors to falling birthrates.
  • Tim Pool (33:50): “The idea that women should not aspire to be mothers, that women should not aspire to have a family…that’s definitely a driver.”
  • Brett Dasovic (26:49): “There’s a nihilism around the idea that you’re not going to own a home. Who wants to raise a child if you don’t actually own a home?”

• Traditionalism: Both Priya and Tim express a desire to return to stricter family norms and policies that incentivize stable, nuclear families.

• Divorce & Gender Divide: Brett notes Millennials’ experience as "children of divorce" and a gendered split in Gen Z political trajectories.

• Memorable Moment:

  • Priya Patel (28:12): “Every aspect of society and the government is literally rigged against the people, but specifically my generation...the biggest issue with people of my generation, they have no stake in the game.”

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3. Airport Dress Codes & Decline of Social Standards

Timestamps: 48:37–61:08

• News Context: Tampa International Airport introduces a ban on passengers wearing pajamas.

• Panel Reactions:

  • Split between defending comfort (Brett) and advocating for a higher standard of public appearance (Priya, Tim).
  • Productive clash about “norms for polite society” and the symbolism of “being aspirational.”

• Iconic Quotes:

  • Priya Patel (53:25): “I do begrudge them. They look homeless.”
  • Tim Pool (54:20): “There should be a certain standard for polite society.”
  • Ian Crossland (55:01): “Who cares what people wear? Then why don’t I just wear what they’re asking me to wear?”

• Larger Issue: Debate becomes an analogy for broader societal decline in standards and expectations, with multiple references to the “broken window theory.”

  • Tim Pool (117:01): “If you take pride in yourself, then other people will treat you that way.”

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4. Immigration, Assimilation & the "Suicidal Empathy" Critique

Timestamps: 61:08–77:28

• Echoes of Earlier Topics: Who gets to come to America, the legitimacy of large-scale immigration, and the expectation of assimilation.
• Major Themes:
  • Priya Patel expresses hardline restrictionist views, advocating for a decade-long moratorium and a focus on assimilation.
  • Tim and Priya assert that expressing pride in American culture should not be taboo.
  • The concept of “suicidal empathy” (67:30, Priya): “People seriously have been so brainwashed with this idea that we have to just accept everything here, like there, and...we shouldn’t.”
• Notable Anecdotes: Somali money-laundering through Minneapolis airport, concept of denaturalization for those who overtly maintain foreign allegiances after naturalization.

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5. Media Consolidation: Paramount, Warner Bros & CNN

Timestamps: 78:40–90:53

• News Context: Paramount wins a bid to acquire Warner Bros. and thus CNN; staff reaction is panic about consolidation and potential layoffs.
• Panel Take: Widespread skepticism about the merits of media consolidation but amusement at panic among left-leaning media employees.
  • Tim Pool (80:13): “It is not hypocrisy. It is hierarchy. It is okay when we do it; it is not okay when they do it.”
• AI’s Role:
  • Ian Crossland (84:05): “They’re consolidating the corporate power as the AI is growing underneath...entertainment and information flow are one and the same.”
  • Discussion about actors’ rights, creative labor, and how AI is changing content production and distribution.

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6. The Future of Content Creation in the Age of AI

Timestamps: 90:53–106:54

• Trends: Growing influence of AI in media (music, movies); concerns about loss of creative control and the rise of niche content.
• Economic Realities: Artists' relationships with labels, IP, and how “the cream rises to the top.”
  • Tim Pool (97:56): “Even if you're, you know, just doing searches and stuff...people are going to say, find me the ‘best.’”
• Copyright & Innovation:
  • Ian Crossland (100:09): “I want to get rid of copyright. I think copyright has been used insidiously to control data.”
  • Exploration of AI’s impact not just on media, but on how we approach innovation, access, and legacy.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Immigration & Assimilation:

  • Priya Patel (18:19): “We used to literally kick people out. Even if they did come here legally, we used to kick them out...for not assimilating.”
  • Priya Patel (73:22): “If you're an immigrant to this country...funneling money out of the country and into Africa, then yeah, you should be denaturalized and shipped back.”

• Birthrate Nihilism:

  • Priya Patel (28:12): “Virtually every aspect of society is just rigged against people being able to own their lives. Like we're all, we're all kind of slaves to debt at this point because we don't own anything.”

• Media Hypocrisy:

  • Brett Dasovic (80:13): “They will never understand their own hypocrisy at the fact that, like, they've controlled every institution for so long that they can't imagine anything...not going their way.”

• Broken Window Theory & Declining Standards:

  • Tim Pool (117:01): “If you dress well, you ideally behave better and encourage others to do so. If you allow your environment to be trashy, more trashy behavior will be seen as acceptable.”

• Cultural Critique:

  • Priya Patel (67:35): “We have the most superior, superior country and culture in the entire world and we should be able to preserve that.”
  • Tim Pool (69:50): “There was a time where people came to the United States where they wanted to become American...nowadays there's a significant amount of people that come...looking to extract.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Start | End | |--------------------------------------------------|-------|-------| | Trump & Cuba Hot Take | 06:00 | 24:18 | | Plummeting Birthrate / Cultural Nihilism | 24:18 | 38:56 | | Airport Pajamas & Social Norms | 48:37 | 61:08 | | Immigration, Assimilation & "Suicidal Empathy" | 61:08 | 77:28 | | CNN, Legacy Media, and Paramount Consolidation | 78:40 | 90:53 | | AI, Content Creation, Copyright & Technology | 90:53 | 106:54 | | Superchats & Outro (w/ Ian’s encore performance) | 117:45| End |

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Panelists — Personalities & Running Gags

• Priya Patel: Unapologetically conservative, hardline on immigration and assimilation, self-deprecating about the “controversial” nature of her opinions.
• Tim Pool: Wry, methodical, and consistently playing devil’s advocate.
• Brett Dasovic: Pop culture insider, balancing earnest critique with comedic asides.
• Ian Crossland: Theorist, philosophical, always ready to spin a comment into a broader political or societal abstraction ("we are the government", copyright as a conspiracy, etc.).
• Carter Banks: Producer, occasional sharp interjections.

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Final Note

The episode closes with thanks from panelists, plug for All That Remains’ upcoming tour, and a live acoustic song by Ian Crossland ("High"), providing a relaxed and communal end to a content-rich, spirited debate (117:45–end).

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This summary is designed to give listeners a well-rounded understanding of the episode’s central debates, tone, and key takeaways, with timestamps for easy reference to in-depth explorations and memorable quotes.

Transcript

[Priya Patel]

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[Tim Pool]

Donald Trump has floated the idea of a friendly takeover of Cuba. Now I'm not exactly sure what a friendly takeover of Cuba would look like, but apparently it's going to mean a lot of cigars for everybody and a whole lot more vacation for people in Florida. Right now the, the New York Times is reporting the birth rate is plunging and of course they have the anti human idea that, that, that that's a good thing. And I'm, I'm not sure exactly why. It doesn't make any sense to me. But the sun is reporting that fly casual major American airports are saying no more traveling in your pajamas. Personally, I think that's an okay idea but I think there's some other people here that think it's a, that think it's a terrible idea. The U. S Embassy in Israel is saying it's time to leave and I don't really want to talk about Israel but apparently we you CNN staffers are freaking out because of the takeover by Warner Brothers and the owners of Warner Brothers. A lot of people on X are saying things like oh no, Donald Trump controls all of the media. And all I have to say is well where were you when Barack Obama controlled everything? Or Barack Obama supporters I guess is probably honest to say. The Guardian says CBS News and oh, that's the same one. Sorry, there's a $900 million are missing from the solar program that were pumped into Democrat campaigns in California. This isn't a surprise to most people considering how corrupt California is. So we're going to talk about this and a bunch of other stories. But right now we have a message from our sponsor.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Priya Patel]

Hi. Thanks for having me.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you what do you do?

[Priya Patel]

My name is Priya Patel. I am a social media content creator and political commentator. You can basically find me on all the platforms aside from Only Fans. Somebody asked me about that on a show recently and I was like, no, no, no. If I have to clarify. Well, certainly not on that platform, but good. Thanks for having me.

[Tim Pool]

Brett's here.

[Brett Dasovic]

What is going on, guys? Yes, it's weird being here on a Friday since normally I'm here on Thursdays these days. But if you guys want to follow me, you can follow me on OnlyFans. No, not really. Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday, 3pm Eastern Standard Time, which is of course noon Pacific. But I'm excited to get into this.

[Tim Pool]

Slash is here.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

You guys want to rock? Will you start an Only Fans? No, but it doesn't have to be sexual. It could just be like good content, like clips.

[Priya Patel]

I don't know that I want to give that platform any money, to be honest with you.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay. I understand where you're coming from. Yeah, like at what cost? You know, rake it in. At what cost? Cost of supporting some crazy organization you don't believe in?

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, I don't. I think it's more typical that people do like a Patreon or something of that sort rather than OnlyFans.

[Ian Crossland]

I think you're right. And I'm at Ian Crossland. You can find me at Ian Crossland on the Internet. I also have Carter Banks.

[Carter Banks]

Some things are just they cost more than money. And I'm also at Carter Banks and I'm here tonight to produce the show as always. And let's take it away.

[Tim Pool]

All right, so starting off tonight from the Hill, Trump floats friendly takeover of Cuba. President Trump on Friday suggested the US could carry out a friendly takeover of Cuba as the president has used a fuel blockade to increase the pressure on the communist regime in Havana. The Cuban government is talking with us. They're in a big deal of trouble, as you know. They have no money, no anything right now, Trump told reporters. Maybe we'll have a friendly takeover of Cuba. We could very well end up having a friendly takeover of Cuba. Trump imposed a fuel blockade on the island in an extent executive order at the end of January in a push to collapse the regime which relies heavily on energy and food imports. The United nations top official for Cuba warned on Wednesday that the that daily life on the island is becoming fragile with increased strains on health care, water services and food distribution. U.S. officials reportedly met Thursday with the grandson of 94 year old former president Raul Castro, considered the de facto Leader of the totalitarian regime on the sidelines of a conference in the Caribbean attended by Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio has got to be excited about this. You know, with, with his Cuban heritage, he's had pretty critical words for Cuba. Most, I think most presidents generally are fairly critical, except for maybe Barack Obama. But, you know, considering the history that the United States and Cuba has, what do you guys think the chances of actual, of Cuba becoming a territory are?

[Priya Patel]

I, I think they're relatively high and growing and I know a lot of Cubans are in, in large favor of this, whether they fled Cuba to come here or whether they're still in Cuba. I know that this is a very popular position among a lot of them.

[Brett Dasovic]

So it's an interesting aspect of like the immigration debate because we've talked pretty heavily about the idea of, you know, moratorium on immigration. We can't have. Yeah, well, you know what I'm saying. Right. But the people who still do hold that kind of overly romanticized idea of immigration to the United States, the Cuban immigrants ones that they hold that for because so many of them risked so much to come here and you know, kind of take in and really portray American values. But I somehow don't see this happening. But I'm also team. Nothing ever changes. So it's possible.

[Tim Pool]

Would Cuba becoming a territory of the United States change?

[Brett Dasovic]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right. I wasn't sure how we have Greenland yet.

[Brett Dasovic]

You guys paid more attention to politics than me.

[Tim Pool]

We have, we don't have Greenland, but there is an agreement that is alleged to have been drawn up where the US Will have an increased military presence to defend against Russia and the Golden Dome is going to happen. So I think the whole Greenland thing was like the big ask that Donald Trump does. We're just going to take the whole thing and really what they wanted was to be able to have more, more influence on things like the, the military situation and there's a lot of natural resources there. They wanted companies to be able to get it.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, the president does a lot of these, like, for lack of better word, scare tactics where he just kind of threat something really, really big. But we actually want a diplomatic issue or diplomatic solution for these things. We don't want all out war or anything of this sort. Like we want something to come together relatively peaceful and, you know, something that benefits both sides.

[Tim Pool]

So you think he's just looking to get McDonald's into Cuba?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

So what's the, what's the big ask here then is just to get the Cuban Cigars out and get them look, or he wants to. He wants all the cars.

[Tim Pool]

I might want to. You know, the climate down there means that all those cars from the 50s are still in generally good condition. But I do think that. I think that Donald Trump would, if, if he could actually make it happen. I think he would like to see Cuba become a U.S. territory. I think he probably conceives of it as something like, well, we've got Puerto Rico as a US Territory. It's right in the same area, why not Kind of a deal. And also the fact that the Cuban government has been so inept because of their socialist policies. Like the Cuban people seem to be pretty interested in getting out of there, you know, getting on a raft made of 2 liter bottles of Coke or whatever to, to go the 90 miles from Cuba to, to Miami.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

So yeah, this, the. What is it? The Castro regime really, really seized and stole that country for 60 years. And it sounds like what Raul did you say? Was it 93 years old?

[Tim Pool]

Raul Castro? No, he's old. I think so. Ralph. Yeah, Roll. Castro's like Adele's brother, the late, great

[Ian Crossland]

Fidel Castro's brother is in charge. So I think just like, it's crazy. Just like. Yeah, you want like great in scope, not necessarily in like ethics, but sure, sure. Just like we want to take Greenland to secure the Northwest Passage and we want Panama Canal to secure trade. We want Middle Eastern security to pass through the Suez. All these things the Russians would. During the Cold War. That was where their, their nukes were in Kyiv.

[Carter Banks]

I was just thinking that.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, and so that's a huge liability if we do erupt into some global cataclysmic war. We need to secure Haiti, Dominican Republic, Cuba, all those islands I think should be American. It's a very hegemonic, aggressive way to look. But when we got Cuba freed from the Spanish Empire late 1800s, 1898, I think it was a Spanish American war. And after that, instead of taking Cuba and we decided we're gonna make Cuba a free state, they can do what they want. And then some communist dictator took it. So like at some point you kind of gotta protect your own, you know, your assets and your localities.

[Brett Dasovic]

Maybe it's what I said before. Maybe he just really wants Pitbull to do the super bowl halftime show.

[Priya Patel]

I'm so here.

[Brett Dasovic]

And if we're not, if we're going to have an American do it, we're going to have to take Cuba so that Pitbull can do it. Mr. Worldwide.

[Tim Pool]

It does make Sense with the whole Monroe Doctrine, the focus on the Monroe Doctrine. If you. If you're unaware, the US Is kind of looking at Europe and the demographic changes over there. And they're saying in 30, 40 years, Europe's going to be a very different place because of the influx of migrants from the Middle east and North Africa. And there's not even. They're not really even sure that they share the same values that they used to. There's a lot of. A lot of the stuff that's going on with free speech over there. So the US has decided they're going to focus more on South America and North America and kind of enforce the Monroe Doctrine. And, I mean, this does fall kind of in line with that.

[Ian Crossland]

What I'm wondering is that. Sorry if I cut you off anymore.

[Tim Pool]

This.

[Ian Crossland]

I almost want to call it a false flag when these Americans got killed by Cubans like 4 days ago or something. And I'm, like, overloaded with information with. With the news, so I didn't really look into it. I'm like, is this another false flag of Bay of Pigs? You know, the Bay of Pigs invasion where.

[Tim Pool]

Pigs wasn't a false flag.

[Ian Crossland]

They tried earlier, they tried to get Kennedy to set up a false flag to get an invasion of Cuba in the 60s, and he wouldn't sign off on it. The Joint Chiefs wanted. It was called Operation Northwoods, okay? And Kennedy refused.

[Tim Pool]

That wasn't a false flag, though.

[Ian Crossland]

They wanted him to stage a false flag where they would take, what was it, Americans or take Cubans, dress them up as Americans and then kill them. And they would be like, look, they attacked Americans. Kennedy wouldn't do it. So I'm like, that's where my head goes to when I hear about Cubans killed Americans. And now that all of a sudden, four days later, like, yeah, we want Cuba. I'm like, bro, what are they doing? Are they psyopping? And I'm on your. I'm on Team America here, bro. I want to stabilize the region, you know, unnecessary conflict. Down with that.

[Tim Pool]

But I mean, I'm pretty. Pretty hard line about, you know, Alberta can't become part of the United States. We don't want any more. We don't want voting from countries that are generally not conservative and not, you know, not friendly to. To our system and stuff. I do think that Cubans probably would be better voters than, you know, actually

[Priya Patel]

Quebecois, you know, America's evil top hat. Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Miami would indicate that, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brett Dasovic]

For the most part. I think, though they did vote blue in the Last. Their last mayor. But they flipped, right?

[Priya Patel]

They flipped red in 2024, I believe. And then. Yeah, they voted a. They voted a Democrat mayor to office this last November. But.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, does that count as. As flipping back blue because they voted a Democrat mayor or what? Like what's their vote or what's their representative.

[Priya Patel]

They had a relatively conservative mayor prior to this. So.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, they put hot honey sauce on the snack wrap. McDonald's outdid themselves again. The classic snack wrap we all know and love paired with the sweet heat

[Ian Crossland]

of hot honey sauce.

[Tim Pool]

Just what we needed to make it even more perfect. You know the drill. So go to McDonald's and try it today. What? Who? It's Broward County.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Is it? I don't know. I don't know who they're. Who they're representing in Congress is though, is what I'm saying is that I think that, that that kind of matters too.

[Brett Dasovic]

I do think that it would usher in kind of a. Because depending on how hardline you are on immigration, like I was saying earlier, if you're, if you're an American who'. Necessarily in the space that we're in, where you talk about immigration the way we have, which is like caravans, what it's done to the economy, all of that, if you still have that kind of romanticized ideal. Yeah. And people have been. We've been dealing with so many people coming here and hating to be here. Flying the Mexican flag while protesting, you know. You know, last summer.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And so with that going on, you know, they're protesting with Mexican flags to not be kicked out of America.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

The idea of people who actually want to come here and want to share the same values that we do, that's going to be very inviting to a lot of Americans who also will be scared of being told that they're racist or they're sexist because they want to clamp down on immigration.

[Tim Pool]

I got a lot of crap because I said Anna De Armas is, Was a brown girl when she's. Because she's Cuban. And people. There are a lot of people like, she's white.

[Brett Dasovic]

She's white.

[Tim Pool]

So I'm not sure the racist thing is.

[Ian Crossland]

Point.

[Brett Dasovic]

I say it doesn't matter. Like, I don't want somebody coming from Eastern Europe either. At this point. Like, nobody should be coming in.

[Priya Patel]

Honestly, I don't really want anybody coming.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

[Priya Patel]

I'm a hardcore immigration restrictionist. At least right now.

[Tim Pool]

10 years, 10 year moratorium. So we can get off, dude. We.

[Priya Patel]

We did this as recently as the 1950s. Like, I don't understand why it's such a novel concept for most people. And this isn't to say that I

[Tim Pool]

hate all immigrants brains of goldfish.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, it's not that. It's literally. Well, I mean, it's partially that, but it's also the hatred of America. So you saw the video. You guys had to have talked about it the other day. But the lady who. Her and her, her partner fled to Canada, found out that the cost of living was too high.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And she's.

[Brett Dasovic]

And, and, oh, but we respect the immigration laws here completely. And I was like, look, this could be the one rare example where she's far left on literally everything except immigration, which would have been hilarious. But we can assume what her views are on immigration based on the rest of her beliefs. You can infer. And the idea that you would respect the Canadian immigration rules but not hold the same truth for your own country is absurd.

[Priya Patel]

You can blatantly ask the large majority of liberals on the street, like, okay, if I were to go and move into Germany uninvited, without proper documentation, should I be allowed to stay? And all of them will say no. Exactly. They basically, they basically confirm that you should abide by the laws of every other country when it comes to immigration, except for here.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's also their own. That's their own weird white supremacy where they believe that other people are somehow, like, inferior to us because of, you know, what we have as a country. So they would believe that because you're a, an American, that you have a privilege. So therefore you don't have the right to do that. Somebody coming from poorer nation does have that right, because they're just higher on the oppression.

[Priya Patel]

Well, they're, they're just, they're coming here for a better life. Always. They're, they're always seeking a better life. And we owe it to them as the most prosperous country in the world to just hand it to them. Even though pretty much for the rest of this country's history, we've had certain immigration laws and customs that we've required everyone to go through so that we retain that status, retain the quality, like,

[Brett Dasovic]

bro, I'm searching for a better life.

[Tim Pool]

You're supposed to be like, they're supposed to be, you know, certain criteria that you meet to be able to come to the United States and become a citizen. It shouldn't just be that you can get to a port of entry and, oh, I'm going to claim asylum. Well, you came through other countries to get here. You should be in the first safe country. And we used to have to, we used to be like, look, you know, are you a communist? Do you have affiliation with communists? And look, man, I'm, I'm all for reinstating the Communist control Act in 1953. I know there's a couple of parts that the Supreme Court. Court and said we're unconstitutional. They didn't say the whole thing was. So let's get on that, man. Because we got problems here.

[Priya Patel]

Well, but like, also, look, we used to literally kick people out. Even if they did come here legally, we used to kick them out of the country for not assimilating.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Priya Patel]

We wouldn't employ them and then we'd kick them out. And honestly, we should get back to that because guess what? You shouldn't come here and bring your garbage Third world culture and erode our culture because that's exactly what you fled from. Like, like, I don't, I just don't understand why this is such a novel concept for so many people.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, can I. Sorry, let me just ask this really quick. Puerto Ricans, can they freely travel through the United States?

[Tim Pool]

They're in American territory. Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay. So if we made Cuba territory, they. You talk about immigration like it's just de facto immigration. You immigrate.

[Priya Patel]

Well, I don't necessarily know that we should make Cuba an American territory. Like, would I be in favor of doing something similar to what we just did in Venezuela? Maybe. But like, I, I think we. It's important that we secure the region. But I don't know that I want to just invite a whole new country of people to just come here freely.

[Brett Dasovic]

We can just get rid of Puerto Rico and take Cuba.

[Priya Patel]

I would actually be in favor. I would trade. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

All the islands I want.

[Priya Patel]

All the cigars.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

All that bananas they grow down there and sugar and whatever else.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah. The coffee.

[Ian Crossland]

They're going to get coffee beans down there.

[Brett Dasovic]

So.

[Tim Pool]

So are we thumbs up or thumbs down on Cuba? Well, yes.

[Ian Crossland]

I've been waiting for Cuba to become American my whole life. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened yet.

[Tim Pool]

I'm.

[Ian Crossland]

Wait for the Castros to die.

[Tim Pool]

I think I'm actually really interested in what process Donald Trump is thinking about if he, you know, because it's one thing for Donald Trump to talk about it.

[Priya Patel]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, but like, how exactly is he? What's, what is a friendly takeover look like? And obviously he didn't expand on it, so I don't think anyone really knows it's, it's just Donald Trump kind of bloviating.

[Priya Patel]

I always joke about this. I'm like, I think the President sometimes doesn't even know what he's thinking.

[Tim Pool]

He has no idea what he's going to say.

[Priya Patel]

Like, but, but it always works out. I mean, as far as track records go, I trust him more than any president in my lifetime when it comes to foreign policy by a long, long shot. But I think sometimes the President says

[Tim Pool]

things and he surprises himself.

[Priya Patel]

Surprises himself.

[Tim Pool]

He's like, I never said that.

[Priya Patel]

Always in a good way. And I'm like, I'm here for it. I'd be like, oh, I trust you relatively.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, I did say that. Someone shows him the video. Well, I was right.

[Priya Patel]

You know, Exactly.

[Brett Dasovic]

Does he get back to Air Force One and ask like one of his staffers, like, could you figure out what, what a friendly takeover would look like so I can actually have the answer next time?

[Tim Pool]

I have, dude, Marco Rubio's sweating constantly. As soon as Donald Trump gets to the podium, Marco Rubio's just like, oh, God, I'm gonna get another job.

[Brett Dasovic]

Marco Rubio realizing he has to become Fidel Castro.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. At least he's got a nice role.

[Ian Crossland]

I think a friendly takeover would be like a purchase. That would be a purchase. Yeah. What other.

[Carter Banks]

I mean, a friendly takeover kind of sounds like a polite, light theft almost.

[Priya Patel]

Well, I'm like, yeah, I don't, I

[Brett Dasovic]

don't even that that's what a hostile takeover is in business.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, just, you just open the doors of Guantanamo Bay and all the US Military just rolls out and says, okay, we're in charge now.

[Priya Patel]

Well, see, what I think is going to happen, I think this is the President kind of teasing something and then the next time it's talked about or if tensions rise between us and Cuba, it's going to be like, oh, no, we'll come kidnap your president like we did with Venezuela, like, easier with Cuba than likely. But it's just going to, to like, the, the message that the President is going to portray to Cuba is just going to ramp up, ramp up, ramp up, and then it's probably the actual solution is going to be somewhere in the middle.

[Tim Pool]

Do you guys think that, that Trump is hoping that this kind of rhetoric would, would kind of get the Cuban people to apply pressure to the government? I'm not sure how much pressure they can put on the government. I don't know how, how heavy handed the Cuban government is against the, the, the Cuban people. But like, I imagine if they if they start to be like, hey, you know.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it, yeah it seems like a reverse big ask this one. Instead of being like we're going to invade Greenland and we're going to take it and then he scales it back, we're like, we just want bases. This one, he's like, I just want to be friends. And then later he'll be like, come on, I already, I offered you the peaceful way. Are you sure you're not going to take pieces? So he's going like the other angle.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And yeah, I think the people, I

[Priya Patel]

really do think The President plays 5D chess most of the time. Like truly. I mean when we look at especially a lot of the negotiat when it comes to like a lot of these foreign conflicts always ends up being perfectly fine. Like everyone that just fear mongers about the worst possible scenario never ends up being that way. And I'm not saying that like it couldn't happen. Obviously it very well could. We could fall into all out war with some of these nations, but obviously. Well not, not Cuba particularly, but just in the sense of, you know, talking about a lot of these, these foreign policy issues and there's a lot of, of a lot of excitement surrounding a good amount of them.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Priya Patel]

Yes.

[Brett Dasovic]

Was that build a new hotel there? Yeah, like Maragaza. Except for out in Cuba.

[Priya Patel]

Mara. Gaza.

[Tim Pool]

Closer to home that way. You know, it has been.

[Priya Patel]

I'd rather go to Cuba than I.

[Ian Crossland]

Since the liberal economic order took over after World War II. They prevented total war. We haven't had World War III. And that's really promising that it will never happen again. Doesn't mean it can't.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Ian Crossland]

So limited, you know, limited conflict all over anyway.

[Tim Pool]

What about.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm effervescently concerned with shit spiraling into totalitarian, like total war.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean I, I understand your, your concern but with Cuba, they don't have the backing that they, you know, this isn't, this isn't, you know, the 60s.

[Ian Crossland]

There's no Soviet Union.

[Tim Pool]

The Soviet Union, China's not interested. Russia has got their hands.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah. This isn't going to be like a missile crash Crisis 2.0 by any means necessary. It's really just like essentially applying pressure to the government. Look like you either either fix things or we're going to come in and fix it for you. And that might, that might look a little nicer depending on, you know, how compliant you are with us.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

You'll want to take our, our offers, our package. Yeah, I think he just wants.

[Tim Pool]

I think he wants Burger Kings. He wants to put, or he wants to put McDonald's in there.

[Priya Patel]

Put McDonald's there. Bring the cigars here. Yeah. This is the, this is the exchange.

[Brett Dasovic]

We're looking real free trade.

[Tim Pool]

It's free trade because Donald Trump's threatening with a military invasion. Let McDonald's in. Let McDonald's in.

[Priya Patel]

Invasion. A gentle nice invasion.

[Ian Crossland]

Invasion.

[Tim Pool]

We're going to jump to this story here from the New York Times. The birth rate is plunging. Why? Some say that's a good thing because they're anti human. The political class is worried about the historic drop, but the biggest change is among the youngest women who are the least ready to have children. We can blame it on the girls. That's fine with me. The US Birth rate is declining. Rose Paz, Choice choices help explain why. Ms. Paz, 22 Group in Salt Lake City, the eldest of three children born when her mother, an immigrant from Mexico was 16. Her parents, a waitress and a cook, worked a lot, leaving her responsible for her younger siblings. She remembers having to sleep, having, having to skip sleepovers and birthday parties to care for them. Ms. Paz is studying for a bachelor's degree in marketing. She has a serious boyfriend but does not want to have children. Now. Now I want to be financially stable and in a place I can call my own, she said. I saw my parents get stressed over money and I don't want my kid to experience that. Not so long ago, women like Ms. Paz, in their early 20s, from backgrounds that are far from privileged, would have been among the most likely to have children. Now this group is a key contributor to the country's declining birth rate, which is at an all time low, down by over 25 since 2007, the year the fall began. Pre. Do you have kids?

[Priya Patel]

I don't. I would love to have.

[Tim Pool]

Shame on you. Shame on you.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Why don't you have children?

[Priya Patel]

I haven't found my husband yet, but once I do, we'll get right on it. Don't you worry.

[Tim Pool]

So do like the, the way that they frame this as you know, young women are deciding not to. That's strictly because of birth control and because of abortion.

[Priya Patel]

No, I wouldn't say strictly, but those definitely largely, you know, I think, I think they all play into each other like those with the overall, the overarching idea or ideology behind feminism is, is largely a key factor in that. I think that forcing women into the workforce was essentially the, the start of this, this downfall. Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

There's also a nihilistic view of the way the American Economy is right now.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

That you can't say that's not a part of it because that's affecting the men too, especially men who are. Who are still trying to hold on to the idea that they're going to have to be a provider. Even if both of them are going to be working, which is what most relationships are these days. Somebody's going to have to be the main provider in that family. And there's a nihilism around the idea that you're not going to own a home. Who wants to raise a child if you don't actually own a home to, you know, to live and do you want to raise your kid in an apartment? Do you want to own a home as a renter where the rent can be jacked up at any point in time and they can evict you pretty easily? Well, these days, not really with squatters, rules.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And such like that. But the point is, is like it's putting the blame. I did like the part where she's like. It kind of made her seem, like, unserious. Like she had to skip sleepovers to, like, make sure her brothers and sisters don't die.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah. Like me. Or ever.

[Brett Dasovic]

But that is. I mean, that's a node to American narciss that can be men or women. But in this case, they're framing it as a problem unique to women.

[Tim Pool]

The piece goes on. It says the decline has prompted hand wringing among portions of the political class, with some conservatives calling it the triumph of selfishness over sacrifice. A report last month by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank titled Saving America by Saving the Family warned that when a nation fails to preserve the family, the state soon falls to preserve. Fails to preserve itself. Good Lord, I can't read tonight. And I think that that actually is. Is an important point. Right. Like, your society is made up of the people. And if you're not making more people, then you're actually allowing your society to age, decay. And you lose that. That vigor that comes from young people. You lose a lot of the industriousness that comes from young people. Old people are. Are older people tend to be kind of stuck in their ways. Young people tend to be the ones that are. Are looking to try new things. And if you don't have that vitality in your society, your society ends up turning into, you know, it. It loses that kind of edge, especially in a. In a, you know, a time where things are changing so fast.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah. Well, look, I think that the big problem here is. You're exactly right. I Mean, when people are super nihilistic when it comes to the country and the future of the country, they're less inclined to have children. Yes, but the problem is, is that every single aspect of society and the government is literally rigged against the people. But specifically my generation, like it's incredibly. The job scarcity is a real thing. Affordability is a real thing. I mean I live in Los Angeles and it's incredibly unobtainable to even think about owning a home. I mean the, the medium house price in California, not just Los Angeles, California is like $997,000.

[Tim Pool]

So got a friend that lives in Lakewood and he's got like, he's got a small house. It's not some big thing, but it does have an upstairs and it's over a million dollars for his home.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, well, and like look, California is not a representation of the rest of the country. Obviously we're seeing that a lot in you know, the affordability, gas prices, things like that. It's, it's very much on the state and local level in that sense. But I mean it really is. But you know, know wages reflect how the, the location looks and I mean our wages are incredibly high compared to most of the country in California. But you know, that's not reflected in, you know, how, how people like can't find homes. Like, I mean there's so many things that have, that have contributed to these issues, but virtually every aspect of society is just rigged against people being able to own their lives. Like we're all, we're all kind of slaves to debt at this point because we don't own anything. Why, why would I ever think long term if I don't have anything for myself? I think that biggest issue with people of my generation, they have no stake in the game.

[Tim Pool]

So this is a bit of a sidetrack but do you think that the, the Trump savings plans for, for babies that are born. Right. The goal of that is to give totally. Like, you know, when you're 18, they have a stake because they own something.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Do you think that that's going to be something that, that younger generations are gonna do you think they'll, because I understand your point about Gen Z. They don't own anything. So they don't feel, and this goes to, to the talk about socialism and capitalism.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like they don't feel like they own any property. So why do they care about property rights or things like that? Whereas if you have a bank account that has money in it that when you turn 18 you have assets like that.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, do you think that's, that's something that is going to actually affect the opinions of the young, like people being born now?

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, I, I do think it will and I think it's going to affect people of my generation thinking about having kids now because people that do have that mindset maybe are a little bit more optimistic if, you know, know, I, if my kid is born between the, the, between 2025 and 2028 or. Yeah, 2025 and 2028, that they're going to have X amount in a bank the second that they turn 18, even if I don't put a cent into it. That's very hopeful for people when a lot of it is that reasoning, like I'm setting my kid up for a worse life than I currently have because prior generations, you, you work essentially to, to make your kids have a better life than you do. But that's, that's becoming not impossible, but that's becoming harder and harder. We're seeing a little bit of that change with this new administration, but like prior, it's just been getting worse. The, the outcome just looks even more bleak. So I do think that that is a massive factor. And I mean for me, I've again, like, I don't have kids and I'm not married, but I, I've said, I'm like, I really want to have kids during this administration, like simply for that,

[Brett Dasovic]

you know, I do believe that marriage, like isn't the divorce rate declining slightly because people that are getting married are getting married later and they more they're being choosier about who they actually settle down with. Like my generation, the millennials were the product of your parents got divorced. And that was kind of the, the song of that entire time period, right, was the, it was the romanticization of divorce and how you get through that. So the, the way that it's kind of peaked into nihilism isn't surprising to me in any way, shape or form. And I've, me and you have talked about this on the show before. I said, look, they're not going to go to capitalism, at least not in my opinion. They will go to ask the government for help because life has become too difficult to figure out anyways these days. Have you seen the things where it's like you go to apply for a job at a gas station, you have to do like a personality survey really, and stuff like that. It's like it is unbelievably difficult just to do the base level things to survive now. So they're nihilistic in the extreme in a lot of ways, and they're attached to social media, which is giving them the worst that humanity has to offer day in and day out. And I don't necessarily agree with the idea that you should fall into that type of nihilistic view of the future. If anything, be being here, working here has kind of shown me what the other side of that coin is. And I was never a nihilistic person. But I get, like, our influences here aren't the norm. Like, like the conservative influences aren't the majority of the country necessarily, maybe half, whatever. But, you know, that's. There's still a lot of influence from the rest of the culture that tells them, don't do it. It's not worth it. It's not worth your time.

[Tim Pool]

Good.

[Priya Patel]

Oh, no. I was just gonna say I think that I agree with you, but I think there is a clear split between the sexes in my generation. You're seeing young men go really, really hard to the right and young women go really, really hard to the left. And this is a trend that's been happening for a long time. But it's, it's, it's culturally because again, like, each side perceives the other side as rejecting them, but they're also splitting up for economic reasons for the same reason. They're just going different directions. Like, young men are going to like, hardcore on free market capitalism a lot of the times, and then young women are really going hardcore towards socialism. Well, the women, for the exact same reason. It's just different, different goals and outcomes.

[Tim Pool]

I, I think, I mean, I think you mentioned it, but feminism has a

[Priya Patel]

lot to do with massively. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The idea that you can. That women should not aspire to be mothers, that women should not aspire to have a family.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I understand that, like, you know, the, the fact that it takes dual income to, to just make ends meet. Now, like, that's definitely true, but we got to this, or part of the reason we got to this point was because society has been telling young women that it, that either you can have everything, you can do both of them, or you shouldn't even want to. I think Murphy Brown in the 90s when she was like, you know, a CEO and had a kid, kid, and it was like, oh, well, I can do whatever, I can do all of it. And you know what you can't do?

[Priya Patel]

And that's exactly. There are people that are capable of doing all of it. But everyone think, but everyone thinks they're the Exception. That's the problem.

[Tim Pool]

They're not capable of doing it. They have someone else raising the kid.

[Priya Patel]

No, that is true.

[Tim Pool]

That is there. You've got your kid in daycare all day and a mother should be with the kid as much as possible.

[Priya Patel]

I agree.

[Tim Pool]

So the idea that, that they can do it all. No, you can't. You, you. So you, you, you hire someone to

[Priya Patel]

do it for you. It depends on what your idea of do it all obviously is. But if you y the boss, babe, CEO of a company and then have, you know, four kids, you're never going to be able.

[Tim Pool]

Someone else is going to raise.

[Priya Patel]

Exactly. Somebody or largely you're going to be outsourcing things on a massive scale. But the problem is, is that everyone has this like, dream idealistic situation for their home life or their family life or how they want to raise their kids. And most of the time it's really unobtainable, especially now in today's society with again, like costs of everything and you know, just cultural norms at this point. But, but really feminism largely, but a lot of the other aspects of society, when we look at the economy, everything's just rigged against the nuclear family. It's the whole goal of all of this. I'm going to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but like the whole goal of basically everything from, I mean, the last 178 years since like the birth of feminism basically has been to rig people against having the conventional nuclear family.

[Tim Pool]

Well, yeah, I mean, not to get back into the socialist and, you know, conversation, but that is the whole point. One of the tenets of Marxism was to destroy the nuclear family and get rid of that. Because the things that make people not want to be obedient to the state is a good family, you know, community.

[Brett Dasovic]

You're both working, it doubles the amount of money. The government also, there, there's a tax the government, there's, there's a, there's a messaging issue on the right too, because a lot of times people will call into question, they're like, look, it will be women on the right that are talking about the nuclear family and doing all of these things. And they're like, well, well, you're working at a, at a big media company. You're Megyn Kelly, you're like, are you doing everything or is somebody helping you do it? And you know, unless you're already enamored with right wing politics where you're willing to look that, you know, look over that and kind of not really take it for what it is, but if you're somebody who's a lefty or you're more I guess undecided. You're like really like that job looks like you can be at the office a lot like it, it rings untrue, I think.

[Priya Patel]

But I think a lot of the times, and not so much the Megyn Kelly's but a lot of the new social media influencers kind of in my like basket of things in the, in the industry, they like wholeheartedly reject women working while at the same time having a social media job or something of that sort. And it's like, well, you're just a hypocrite if you're telling me that I should be the most trad wife in the world. And maybe you placate like that on, on the Internet, but you're clearly not, you're clearly working. You're clearly, I mean as much as people, people hate it. Like a lot of these women, they dress up for men on the Internet. Like they're not like you might be wearing somewhat trad looking clothing, but it's really not costume, it's cause it's cosplay. And you're telling, you're basically putting on the Internet the message that men want to hear a lot of the times and you're, you're selling yourself in one way or the other on the Internet.

[Ian Crossland]

It's so annoying when people wear costumes. Wait, to the person, what message are

[Brett Dasovic]

you trying to convey exactly? It's like that's what I want to know wants.

[Tim Pool]

He wants people to know that he wants to take them down to the paradise city. And the girls are pretty.

[Ian Crossland]

So okay, I think they said that you want to leave the world better for your children than it was for your grandparents. You know, like the word. It gets better every generation of course.

[Priya Patel]

Like yeah, you want to make your kids life better than yours until no,

[Brett Dasovic]

no, no, boomers, that's people. There are arguments don't want to like sucks to be you. Like you're going to have to pull yourself up by the bootstrap.

[Priya Patel]

They're the ones that screwed everything over for us.

[Ian Crossland]

I like the philosophy and it's a good thing to aim at. But like World War I, it got way worse for that generation than the generation before. Like they had probably the worst of anybody in the last few hundred years. Maybe one of the worst industrial slaughter of humankind. And the men coming back shell shocked and unable to stand up straight from their trench foot warfare. Okay, anyway, Hitler's a result of that. You get people like that come out of that and then after that, the next generation, World War II, they probably were a little bit better off than the silent generation. World War I trench warfare was the most grotesque, abusive. So ever since then, it's gotten better every generation until maybe people are saying this generation is the first time when things are starting to fall off.

[Priya Patel]

Well, yeah, obviously all of this is going to be, in a somewhat way, idealistic, but it's, it's more on a practical sense, like, sure, yes, there could be some worldwide event that really screws everybody over. That's kind of something that you can't really account for on that level. But, like, I think the basic principle of this is, is that I don't want to raise my kids while I'm in debt and poverty, and I don't want to die and leave my kids with a million dollars of debt because I tried to provide them a good life and I wasn't able to.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you think there's like an actual. You brought up conspiracies earlier, and I wonder about, like, what are these people? World Economic Forum, they say you want to live in the pod and eat bugs and be happy. Like, are they literally trying destroy families? Put your body in a vat. We'll extract the semen and the egg. We'll find which one of you has the best genetics and extract that Peter

[Priya Patel]

Thiels of the world, maybe, and then

[Ian Crossland]

make the best humans.

[Priya Patel]

Oopsies.

[Ian Crossland]

So it's under control. So, so it's, it's because otherwise you've got these, these rogue individuals getting married and having guns and protecting their borders. And like, how can you, how can you make sure they don't go crazy and start a world war if you, if they have their own property and, and, and families and things?

[Tim Pool]

Well, the population's not the ones that start the war. That's the governments that the Soviets, like Lenin was.

[Ian Crossland]

He was like a. You know, the population can rise up and cause a.

[Tim Pool]

That, that's, That's a revolution, though. That's not, that's not a world war war. I mean, you, you mentioned a World War I.

[Ian Crossland]

No, but it just, like the danger of a population, like, getting unruly. I think that's part of why weed got made illegal because it makes people question authority and that, you know, but

[Tim Pool]

they're, they're relaxing marijuana laws, thank God.

[Ian Crossland]

But I think that's why they, why not all of us.

[Brett Dasovic]

I, for one, am shocked.

[Ian Crossland]

But, but that's like Nixon used it as a weapon to, to like, create order. Like, tamp down on the the hippies and the Black Panthers, they're creating two too much of, you know, murmur that there might be a revolt. They could have, you know, who knows?

[Tim Pool]

They were communists. Yeah, he was right. They were all communists.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know about that.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah. I mean Black Panthers definitely were and a lot of the hippies, you know, the hippies that went to.

[Ian Crossland]

They're all communists.

[Tim Pool]

They were communists.

[Ian Crossland]

I know but you said they were all communists. It's not true. They were. They were using that to stop what a potential revolution. Like the Vietnam War was so bad.

[Tim Pool]

It would have been.

[Ian Crossland]

The people were ready revolution.

[Tim Pool]

Ian.

[Ian Crossland]

It could have been. Yeah. It could have got. Could have got. Could have got turned into. Regardless of their ethos, people that are smoking pot and having families don't give a fuck about your government. Like they are very much. I am the government. You understand? We the people control our reality together. And when you take those things away

[Priya Patel]

from people version of communism.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I don't think. Well maybe that's what we got going on right now. The reality of like either people control our government.

[Priya Patel]

I'm pretty sure people vote in elected representatives. But the, the idea that we are all the government is pretty, I mean

[Tim Pool]

that, I mean our system is, is like specifically not a direct democracy because we are not the government.

[Ian Crossland]

We are the government. We the people control this country. That's why we, we select people to go represent us in the moment and they'll be gone soon.

[Tim Pool]

That's correct.

[Priya Patel]

There's a reason that we don't have a direct democracy.

[Brett Dasovic]

We were talking about this yesterday. When's the last time they got anything done anyways, Congress can't get anything.

[Tim Pool]

They got a dog show the other day as opposed to, you know, voting on the act. But I think, I mean like look to your point, right, The Save act has like or at least voter ID has something like 85 approval among the American people. Right. Like everybody thinks that there should be, you know, that you should have to have an id. That's something that if, if the, the American people really were in control the way that you say then that should be a no brainer.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. The government been co opted. Sorry to interrupt by band banks and yeah, for sure there's, there's. The liberal economic order is a banking cartel basically. That's.

[Tim Pool]

But you were just saying that we are the government. And the point that I'm making is if it was really like that, if it was really the way that you laid it out earlier, then it would be a no brainer that this would get passed very easily.

[Ian Crossland]

I will never not say that we are not. I will always say we are the government. Even if they're, they have their boot on my neck, even if they have a gun to my head and a boot on my neck, I will still claim that we are the government of this country. And that's how it's always going to be. That's the point of this country. You might want to change what the country is for a moment and pretend like you're in control or that you're the government and I'm not. But welcome to the United States. I'm the government too.

[Priya Patel]

Well, I mean, yeah, I agree with or I understand your framing in the sense of you, you're going to die on the Hill, but we are the government in the United States. I mean we're not, we're not the government. We elect, we elect people to represent us in the government.

[Brett Dasovic]

In this version. Do I get a pension? No, because that would be cool.

[Tim Pool]

No. Some boomer's going to take it.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

They're going to, they're going to live forever too.

[Priya Patel]

That's why we're never going to, going to see a die. Social Security.

[Carter Banks]

The thing is, it's crazy cuz like it kind of is impossible to have like kids right now and not have you and your wife both working full time.

[Priya Patel]

I mean it's, unless you, unless you have like an insane job.

[Carter Banks]

Right. And, but that was the goal in like my parents generation. It's kind of unrealistic now.

[Tim Pool]

You just had a kid.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes.

[Carter Banks]

And we both work.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. I didn't, I didn't realize it handled full time, dude.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So yeah, I mean I just had a, a kid too. And my congratulations takes care of the stuff. But I mean I have, I'm not, I'm the exception to the rule apparently. So.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But yeah, I mean, look, I do think that, that the, the problems that Gen Z is facing are largely creations of, of the, not just the government, but of also the boomers. Like, you know, the boomers that own multiple homes and, and everyone looking at their, their house is their biggest investment and that's going to make them a million dollars or whatever.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't blame them too much because they didn't know they got snowed. Man, this order really tricked and, and hoodwinked the Americans. To think it's normal to have a $75 gallon gas. It's normal to have all these foods from all over, but man, in the background they're like taking over countries and overthrowing governments.

[Tim Pool]

2008 when the government just started printing money like mad, we're taking loans out at 0% interest and buying stocks with. The reason that we have, have like people talk about in income inequality is so terrible right now and it is really, really bad. A big part of the reason is because after 2008 when the government brought interest rates down to zero and kept them at zero for 10 years, people that had money, people that had assets would take loans out with their assets as the collateral. They would take a loan out at like 1 or 2% or whatever. They put that money in the stock market and as the stock market goes up by 10, 15 a year, they're making that money. So they were literally getting money for almost free putting that money in the stock market just for it to grow. So people that had assets and have wealth and stuff like that, they, they had a huge advantage. And it's because the government decided that they were going to have that policy. And every time the government talked about raising interest rates, the stock market would take a tumble a bit and then the government would get oh no, we can't do that, blah blah, blah, blah. I think this, that like interest rates were 0 or around 0 for, for, for almost a decade. Quantitative easing was the worst policy they ever had. They should have let the banks fail. There's my little.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, well and like the other thing is, is that I mean even though we have a massive affordability crisis and all these things like obtaining wealth in this country is perceivably very hard, but it's actually easier to obtain wealth in this country than any other country in the world. We're just not taught how to like the financial illiteracy in this country is beyond ridiculous for how sophisticated of a society.

[Tim Pool]

Klarna for your burrito.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, I was thinking about like exactly, that's exactly right. It's like we're literally taught to take on debt but not how to take on debt. Like that's the problem.

[Ian Crossland]

There's this thing opportunity cost in economics which is fascinating. Like okay, I could go make $1,000 doing this job, but if I have to turn down a million dollar project, then I'm actually going to lose $990,000 doing this work because the cost of opportunity is lost. And with oh, that's all I got. I have more.

[Brett Dasovic]

Let's, let's address the fact that no article that start that ends with and this is why it could be a good thing has ever been good. And then no articles.

[Tim Pool]

I remember no article that Starts with from the New York Times.

[Brett Dasovic]

Maybe there's one good one, but nothing that ends with and here's why that's a good thing is ever good.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, they're telling you right off the bat what you're supposed to think

[Brett Dasovic]

they're poisoning this thing. That's clearly bad. Here's why it might not.

[Ian Crossland]

I remember my point. I just let me. Financial literacy. Like, I was picturing my parents being like, well, did you go return that thing for $20 to Amazon? Did you go spend an hour of your day to go return that? It like, well, I could have. If you understand economics, I can make $900 in that time period and just eat the $30 loss. And that's the opportunity cost of, like, how you really make money in reality. Don't chase these $20, $30 penny pinch. Like, it's so distracting, requires so much energy. When there is other ways to accrue massive amounts of wealth in the background.

[Carter Banks]

Pennywise and pound foolish, I think is like a term for that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but I mean, look, if you. If you look at all the. The not all, but if you look at most people that have a lot of money, they're pinching their pennies all the time.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, like you're not going to.

[Priya Patel]

They don't let go of them. That's the difference is that you're wasting time, like funneling money back and forth when you legitimately should be kind of penny pinching when you should be on a budget. You're like, oh, I need to return that thing for $10 at Target or whatever. And that's going to take an hour whatever of my time. But people that have wealth don't even let go of that wealth for little.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I don't need to spend the money on exactly.

[Priya Patel]

Little dumb things at Target anyways.

[Ian Crossland]

It was the cane, by the way, is what I was going to return. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I'm glad that you didn't honestly know.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, you've been using it to like, stretch your back and every.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah, it's really good on the back of the neck. You can roll the spine with it. Oh, God.

[Tim Pool]

All right, all right, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna jump to this story here from the. The. The U. S. Sun fly casual Major American airport bans passengers from wearing everyday outfit. We've had enough. And it's not everyday outfit. It's literally pajamas. Like, it's the same stuff that people just mope around their house in.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Unless they are Giving me the absolute best flight experience in human history. The audacity of this company to do this is shocking.

[Carter Banks]

When he's always told, you shouldn't wear pajamas on a plane. No, you should rest in the nines.

[Brett Dasovic]

You shouldn't wear pajamas on a plane. But flying shouldn't be a horrible experience. Yet it is.

[Tim Pool]

I, I agree. But if you look at like, like dudes that like, wear tracksuits, right? Like matching tracksuits, they're not, they're not the best attire, but usually they look clean. They look kind of put together and stuff like that. You can wear comfortable clothes and not look like people in this picture here. Well, at that. Come on, come on.

[Brett Dasovic]

This is the free market. They're paying the money. Let them decide where they're going to spend their money.

[Tim Pool]

So from. From the U.S. son, travelers are now banned from wearing pajamas at Tampa International Airport in Florida. According to the latest social media post from the Hub, the expo shared a graphic that plainly states it's time to ban pajamas at Tampa International Airport. The post references the airport's previous successful banning of Crocs, while calling Amen to that.

[Priya Patel]

Honestly, we should have a nationwide ban on Crocs.

[Tim Pool]

You should. I, I wear Crocs.

[Ian Crossland]

They are com.

[Brett Dasovic]

There's nothing wrong with Crocs. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

[Tim Pool]

Look, everyone knows the, the story about Crocs, right? The Idiocracy story. Actually, are you familiar with the movie Idiocracy? Yeah. Okay, so when they were making that movie, they were looking for shoes for. To have the people walking around wear, and they were like, they have to be ridiculous. And so the, the, the, the set designer, the, the, the wardrobe designer found these shoes and they looked ridiculous and they were like, okay, okay, well, we're going to use these. And they're like, well, well, it's a small company. What if they become popular in the, in the future? And, and like the, the director was like, are you kidding? Look at these things. Those were Crocs. If you look, if you watch Idiocracy, everybody's wearing Crocs. And now it's happened. In reality, it's the official shoe of

[Brett Dasovic]

the men and women saving your life at the hospital. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

It actually is. I look, like I said I own.

[Priya Patel]

Are they really saving your life, though?

[Tim Pool]

I mean, maybe they're doing cpr, you

[Ian Crossland]

know, Is this the.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Ian Crossland]

Guns don't kill people. Crocs don't save people. It's the people save people.

[Tim Pool]

But to like. So I, I'm of two minds.

[Ian Crossland]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Like I don't fly wearing pajamas, right. I, I don't get dressed up in a suit, but I don't wear like

[Brett Dasovic]

I what the argument for men is like you shouldn't wear pajamas just cuz you're going to get pickpocketed. If you've got your wallet in your pocket, wear something that you can actually like conceal.

[Carter Banks]

I just like getting through security quip

[Ian Crossland]

I start wearing, I mean look, you

[Tim Pool]

can wear, it's fine to wear vans. Vans are slip on and stuff like that. You can get away with that. Like I, but I wear jeans. Like I basically wear the same stuff that I wear all the time. But I, I totally understand like unless you're doing like a long international flight, you know, if you're going like you're flying to Hawaii, I can maybe I can, I can understand like wearing something a little more comfortable or whatever, but for the most part do you need to wear pajamas? And I understand your argument about oh, you know, the seats are not comfortable, you don't have very much your services.

[Brett Dasovic]

You used to get a meal with your flight. You don't get the meal anymore.

[Tim Pool]

Again, that depends on the flight. If you're on an international flight or if you're on a long flight.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh, so as long as you get the meal then you can wear pajamas

[Tim Pool]

or I mean look, if you're going, if you're going from Boston to Orlando, do you really need to be like oh man, I got to make sure

[Priya Patel]

that I wear is just such a hassle?

[Tim Pool]

Come on.

[Brett Dasovic]

Service for almost every aspect of American culture has got nothing but worse over the last 10 years.

[Priya Patel]

I agree with flights are way cheaper

[Tim Pool]

now than they ever have been.

[Priya Patel]

They're not.

[Tim Pool]

What when you got like 3, $400, $500 for like a, you can probably fly from Boston down to, to, to Orlando for like 400 bucks.

[Brett Dasovic]

Your $72 peanuts that you have to buy.

[Carter Banks]

Or if you fly like different like connecting flights.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

You just got to hack it. You got to bring your own food. That's why a fanny pack. Bring some meat sticks and then they get free Internet only drink water. Don't drink any of that garbage they hand you because then you're more exhausted when you get off the plane. Don't eat the, you know, the paper.

[Tim Pool]

Never drink the coffee on the A plane.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, why not?

[Tim Pool]

Because they're, they're using it from the tanks that they never clean.

[Ian Crossland]

Damn those water.

[Brett Dasovic]

Okay, so you, you want me to drink coffee from a tank that's never cleaned?

[Tim Pool]

I'm the one who needs told you never to drink.

[Brett Dasovic]

But the thing is they're, they're offering it. So they're offering me coffee from a tank that's never cleaned and I'm supposed to dress up this.

[Tim Pool]

You dress up. Just wear normal clothes.

[Priya Patel]

Normal clothes. You wear what you have on right now.

[Tim Pool]

Do you wear pajamas?

[Ian Crossland]

Looks good, by the way.

[Brett Dasovic]

I, I just dressed like this.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, that's exactly what I'm saying.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't begrudge them. They're fine.

[Priya Patel]

I do begrudge them. They look homeless.

[Ian Crossland]

That's my question. Is this more about don't be slovenly or is it wear those plaid?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, because again, I have some pictures. Look at the picture. Like those.

[Brett Dasovic]

They need to meet us halfway.

[Priya Patel]

Look, look normal for polite society. Like you wouldn't go to the store. Well, I mean some bums probably would, but they should be ostracized for doing so.

[Tim Pool]

Don't look like you're going to want to Walmart.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, look, there is a certain like methadone clinic chic that I see. You know what? You know, the, the flying is, is not much better. So you know what? I, I say that they're wrong. You can wear whatever you want because the airlines are garbage.

[Tim Pool]

You're traveling through the air at 500 miles an hour. There, there is a thought of that

[Priya Patel]

is like a luxurious experience in and of itself.

[Ian Crossland]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Like, no, I mean, I, I, I, I, I think this is. All right. I think it's trying to test it.

[Ian Crossland]

When I'm. Next time I'm in Tampa, I'm going to wear my plaid pajama pants, but I'm just going to make it look real nice. You won't even know. I'll be like, oh, that guy's got

[Tim Pool]

Iron them, iron them.

[Carter Banks]

Do that like as a suit kind of. Sometimes you used to come on the show in pajamas because that wasn't your thing.

[Ian Crossland]

And then Tim's mom was like.

[Tim Pool]

Cuz he just woke up.

[Brett Dasovic]

She, she came to you and was

[Ian Crossland]

like, why is she told him. And then he told me.

[Brett Dasovic]

He was like, you're an adult.

[Ian Crossland]

Who cares what people wear? That was my idea.

[Priya Patel]

I do.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, okay.

[Priya Patel]

It's the same, it's the same reason. I don't really like, look, I don't want to see fat people walking around all the time. I, I don't want to see people look aspirational.

[Tim Pool]

Brett, bring back aspiration.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like I said, when they're aspirational too.

[Priya Patel]

It's not sharia. It's having it's having norms for. For polite society. That's what it is.

[Ian Crossland]

Here's my, my, my, my thought process. I brought it up that why I don't. Who cares what people wear? And I was like, well if I really don't care what people wear, then why don't I just wear what they're asking me to wear? So I use my own logic to then yourself against myself.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

No, but legitimately like there, there should be a certain standard for polite society.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay. Men didn't used to be able to have be shirtless until the 20s, 1920s, free the Nip. You know. So should women be able to go shirtless now?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Priya Patel]

But I also don't.

[Tim Pool]

We. We're the ones that are arguing or at least pre and I are the ones that are arguing for standards, not against standards.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, I don't think that mention standards

[Brett Dasovic]

are a bad thing. I think standards are a good thing. I'm saying that they should be held to standards too. They're not going to meet us at the same level then they are.

[Tim Pool]

You don't. The planes don't crash.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, then what about bikini bottoms?

[Brett Dasovic]

That's literally the bare minimum. The bare minimum is that the flight doesn't fall out of the air. It doesn't matter. My wife hates flying anyways. We drive everywhere.

[Priya Patel]

I don't think any of us love commercial flying. It is an unpleasant experience. Although the fact that we're able to get into a. I don't know, we're able to. To transport ourselves. Yeah. Going 500 miles an hour through the air is actually an incredible thing to think about in and of itself. Obviously. I mean the large majority of the world doesn't have access to this type of.

[Tim Pool]

And, and to be honest with you, market pressures are what have made flights the way they are.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

People want to fly for the smallest amount of money possible. And, and to be honest with you, I know that they're not. Maybe, maybe flights are. Flights aren't the cheapest they've ever been. But I remember a time because I'm old when it was like every flight was like 900 and this is 900 in 1910. Money, you know. So like it used to be way more money in 2010.

[Ian Crossland]

Right. You said 1910.

[Tim Pool]

I was making a joke about how old I am because I'm old.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm the idiot.

[Tim Pool]

But yeah, like it used to be like back when they had, when you could smoke on, on planes, like they were really expensive. It was really expensive to fly. They. You did have more room, but the Reason that, that they've constricted the stuff, the. The or limited the things that they give you is because of the price. If you want to fly for 1500 or $2000, you can sit in first class and you'll get a meal. You'll have more room. I understand that it's expensive, but the thing is nowadays coach flights are actually pretty reasonable.

[Brett Dasovic]

Did you, did you see the article the other day about the. She's like a Vogue. She was a former Vogue editor, I think, who's like the stylist for friend Mamdani who like left first class for business because they said that the flight attendant was microaggressing her.

[Priya Patel]

I will, I will volunteer as tribute to swap seats with her.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Priya Patel]

Like what the hell.

[Ian Crossland]

People are so something I do on airplanes. Just letting everybody know out there. When you see me at the airport, get ready for this. I'll get on the plane, I'll sit in my seat and then I'll like when everyone's boarded, I'll look around for like an empty aisle because sometimes there are. I'll just get up and go sit in the, the three seat aisle. No one's ever bothered me. No one cares.

[Tim Pool]

Well, if, if the seats. Nobody cares normally. Okay.

[Brett Dasovic]

I just.

[Ian Crossland]

Anyway, this comp. This story is awesome. How far is too far with violating these social norms? Because it used to be men literally could not go outside in public with their shirts off. And that was normal. And now it's normal that they can. And it would be, in my opinion, crazy if you have your shirt off

[Tim Pool]

and you're walking around the mall. That's weird.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah. Like you're going into establishments. Yeah. I don't think you should be able to do that. That.

[Tim Pool]

No shirts, no shoes, no service.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, I think most, most places do still abide by that. I think unless you're maybe at like in a beach town, they're probably going to be like, dude, put a shirt on.

[Ian Crossland]

So it's like up to the private establishment what their dress code is basically.

[Priya Patel]

Well, yeah. I mean I think there should be a general sense of what you should do in polite society, not simply just in private establishments. But yeah, ultimately.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you think bikini bottoms, like those dental floss strings up the ass are too. They're too like just basically public nudity

[Tim Pool]

because I don't wear them. Again, you don't wear at the mall. If you're like on a beach in Florida and you want to wear a string bikini, you know, that's something that, that's, you know, it's personal preference. But again, it kind of depends on the beach. But also like, you know, because if you're in, if you're in New England, if you're at like masquamic it, whatever up there, you're not going to see a lot of people rolling around with string bikinis. But if you're down in, in Fort Lauderdale, that's normal.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, so it kind of depends on the context.

[Ian Crossland]

You want a tan ass? I get it.

[Priya Patel]

I mean, I mean I, I would advised against it, but yeah, full ass, tan, just bikini.

[Brett Dasovic]

Those.

[Ian Crossland]

Bikini string.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, this, the like G string.

[Ian Crossland]

I saw it when I was like 12 and it, I thought it was poor. It looked like porn.

[Priya Patel]

It does look like. It basically is porn.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean like also, it's like you go to the air, you go to the airport, you're gonna get either groped or have a photo taken of you where they're, you know, basically looking at your insides. People feel violated. You have to take your shoes off, though. I think they've removed that restriction. But the point being, like, you're like, look, I have to go through all this and dress up. No, thank you. Well, no.

[Priya Patel]

Okay. I mean, I argue that we should get back to a point in society where we do dress up for, for these types of occasions. However, this isn't arguing for you dressing up. It's just arguing for you wearing what you're wearing now. You're wearing what, joggers or black denim and a T shirt and, and tennis shoes.

[Brett Dasovic]

The, the other side of this is like, for like going out in public. Right? Like, it definitely is true. Like, you go out to a store and it does seem like nobody's trying anymore. It's like, does nobody even like. And that's more. We take that back to like the birth crisis discussion where it's like, is nobody even signaling to the world that they're like, that they take care of themselves well enough to want to actually get together with somebody and maybe start a life together. But I'm speaking purely from like an angry. I'm.

[Priya Patel]

You're just revolting against the airlines.

[Ian Crossland]

When I lived in la, I was an actor in la. And it, it, I, I stopped wanting to present myself as beautiful because it was so, it felt so fake. I was like, I just would dress the garbage.

[Priya Patel]

It's not, it's not even doing anything to the extent that you need to present yourself as beautiful, but like, just bare minimum esthetically pleasing. Like take a shower and put normal clothes on. Don't, don't Wear sweatpants and pajamas to go to the grocery store.

[Ian Crossland]

It was like a revolt against. Make people wanting me to look beautiful all the time. And I wonder if social media is making people revolt in their private lives.

[Priya Patel]

Probably.

[Tim Pool]

Now, this is.

[Brett Dasovic]

This is.

[Tim Pool]

This is not. I don't think this is because of social media.

[Priya Patel]

No.

[Tim Pool]

I think social media makes people want to. Want to fake what they look like, and they want to compete with the people that are. That they see on Instagram and stuff like that.

[Ian Crossland]

CEOs wear jeans and a T shirt. Why can't I.

[Brett Dasovic]

It is actually true that Most of the CEOs there was this photo of, like, the. The Netflix CEOs touring Warner, like, the Warner Brothers lot. And they just. They're so badly dressed. It's kind of awesome. A lot of, like, the faded blue jeans and the. In the jacket.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. They probably paid 300 for this, for those faded blue jeans. But the. But the fact makes, like, people that are in people that are wealthy nowadays because it's so. It's so kind of invoked to hide your wealth.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

For a lot of people, particularly people that are super, super rich. Like, you know, Bill Gates was always walking around in, like, you know, it looks like he shopped at Target.

[Brett Dasovic]

Mark Zuckerberg wears the same shirt every day to cut down on making decisions.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And. And. And, you know, there's a little bit of eccentricity with that, but also, like, those people or that kind of. Kind of idea of like, don't show off your wealth, don't flaunt it. I think that that's actually kind of going away. You look at the way that Bezos dresses in the way that he behaves and stuff, and he's kind of not really ashamed of his wealth.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know, he's got the inferiority complex from being, like, a nerd when he was younger.

[Tim Pool]

They were all nerds. They were all nerds.

[Brett Dasovic]

The rest of them stayed nerds. He has now tried to shed that skin.

[Tim Pool]

He's jacked now. Yeah. Like, I'm gonna go lift away.

[Brett Dasovic]

It was like. That was the meme in, like, five years ago.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

It was like the meme of him when he first his company. And he's got, like, the sweater vest on and the glass. It's nice on books. I mean, it's like I sell whatever the guy wants.

[Priya Patel]

I think there's a balance to all this, though. Like, you can look classy and. And tasteful without flaunting wealth or even needing wealth in all reality.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Priya Patel]

I mean, just. Just don't look Like a bum. That's all I asked.

[Tim Pool]

There was a time in my. There was a time in my life when, like, when we were touring a lot, right? Like, and I was just like, I do not, not care. You know, you're constantly on planes, constantly on the bus, constantly traveling. And I was definitely guilty of being like, I don't care. I'm wearing what's comfortable. And I think that the. Let the. As I. As the band stopped kind of going as hard because we kind of. We, you know, made our career and we didn't have to take every tour that was out there. Like, I was just like, all right, you know what? I kind of. And also, I probably. It probably had something to do with the fact that I stopped drinking. But, like, I was like, you know what? I kind of don't want to look like a slob anymore. And I. I don't know if that's maturity or what, but, like, the idea of going to a plane or going. Even going to Walmart anywhere, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not looking, like, shamed if

[Priya Patel]

I. I mean, I don't even own pajamas that look as horrendous.

[Carter Banks]

It's more about, like, offending other people at this point.

[Priya Patel]

Well, yeah, that. That was my point about not really wanting to have to look at obese people, too.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, and the point is, like, I. I don't necessarily agree in practice because I wouldn't dress that way going anywhere.

[Tim Pool]

You're just like Effier.

[Brett Dasovic]

But I don't have problem with people doing it because f. Those airlines.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean, I. I get it, but I'm actually rather fond of Delta.

[Priya Patel]

So the p. The people. The people that run the airlines or that would control this don't actually come in contact with you. So you're not. You're not giving.

[Tim Pool]

This isn't even the airlines that are doing it. This is Tampa Airport.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah. So, you know, you're 5% over your baggage weights. You now have to pay $80 extra.

[Ian Crossland]

How did that. How did that convo come about? They're like, dude, these slobs are pissing. Do you smell those people? Like, was it the smell? Probably the smell.

[Priya Patel]

Oh, it probably was a smell, too.

[Carter Banks]

I mean, just really recently, I didn't see a whole lot of this.

[Ian Crossland]

So, like, these hordes of animals, I've seen a lot.

[Brett Dasovic]

The last pair of Cookie Monster pajamas I'm letting in here.

[Tim Pool]

Get out of here.

[Priya Patel]

But also, I find that it is in, like, the big international airports. Like, I tweeted out on my way Here that I hate flying out of LAX just because I have to deal with so many foreign nationals. And it's just. Just really daunting to me. But I think, I think they're like, things like this are worse in airports like that.

[Tim Pool]

Isn't there another airport you can fly out of the other than lax?

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, it's just small. Yeah, they're just regional, so I'd have to have a layover or something. So it's, you know, give and take in that sense.

[Ian Crossland]

More nationals. Like where you're just hanging out, like walking around, getting planes and stuff.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, well, like, I mean, tourists and things like that. People that just don't speak English and it's like on Mass. I mean, DCA is a really bad one too.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm partial to dca.

[Ian Crossland]

There was you mentioned earlier in the show how it was uncomfortable to be around people that were speaking Spanish or speaking other languages all the time. And I didn't respond. Or you said something about that.

[Priya Patel]

No, it's not. It's not uncomfortable necessarily. But the fact that I can. That I essentially have to go to establishments in America, an English speaking country, and I go to establishments that don't speak English and don't even have menus in the English language. That is a problem.

[Brett Dasovic]

Because you're a bigot.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, exactly. I am a bigot. A racist, all those things.

[Ian Crossland]

I was living in Chile. Chile for a while and it was exhausting not knowing the language. Just the cultural difference was exhausting, literally physically exhausting because I couldn't communicate my ideas properly and. And I fled. I ran away from Chile. I was like, I'm doing it in America. I can't take it. This was billion. You know, Chile's got the money. But I. So I understand. I highly identify with being surrounded by. I wonder if people are feeling like, cultural fatigue just because it's like the Internet, you know, you see Indians, we were talking about Indians earlier today. Like, there's all the Indian hate on the Internet. The Internet.

[Priya Patel]

And like, I get all of it.

[Tim Pool]

What? What?

[Ian Crossland]

Without being, you know, it's like we're surrounded by it. Without being surrounded by it.

[Priya Patel]

Well, but I think the problem is, is that people seriously have been so brainwashed with this idea that we have to just accept everything here, like there, and. And we shouldn't. Because guess what? We have the. To be honest with you, in my personal opinion, we have the most superior, superior country and culture in the entire world and we should be able to preserve that. And as does every other country in the world. I wouldn't be able to walk into most countries as an American and not be able to or not have to abide by their cultures and customs. I would be forced to learn the language if I was there. Long term, I would be shamed if I didn't. So why exactly is it something that we are forced to embrace here is that people bringing their cultures here, eroding ours, not abiding by our basic immigration laws. And I could make a list that goes on and on about things that people do that blatantly disrespect the country when they aspire to come here.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't understand that suicidal empathy.

[Priya Patel]

That's exactly what it is.

[Ian Crossland]

I think it's a. They're planning to globalize and get all these people with like one world government and they're trying to shatter the United States.

[Priya Patel]

I agree that that's what it is up here, but it's not down here. They're preying on the empathetic nature of the voters and the people, and they're brainwashing them to think that if I don't want, look, if I go to India, I want to and I, I want to and I expect to experience the Indian culture. I don't want to have to go to, to an American city and experience New Delhi. Like, I don't and I shouldn't have to, and that's not how it should be. But to say that is now racist and bigoted and everyone's been brainwashed to think that, no, I have to accept these immigrant communities coming and taking over our American cities. And if I don't embrace that, then I am. Whatever.

[Tim Pool]

Xenophobic.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes, exactly.

[Priya Patel]

Xenophobic, racist, whatever you want to call it.

[Tim Pool]

Your point, the whole brainwashing thing is, is actually a really succinct point because the idea that having an opin opinion about your own country, the idea that that makes you a bigot because you say I like my own country, that's something that's actually prevalent on the left nowadays. Oh yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

For a long time.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like I was, it was one of the. I think that might have been one of the first things. Like I, I consider myself vastly apolitical for a very long time. Still in a lot of ways am like, you know, begrudgingly have to. To follow it because of work. But in general, I always thought it was weird how in the, you know, even in the early 2010s, maybe even earlier, where I saw this good amount of people that I knew who just seemed to disappear like America, despite the fact that they were born into immense levels of privilege. Like, I grew up in. I grew up in, like, Woodbury, Minnesota. So where I grew up in the city was, like, the first development built in that town, which is right next to, like, a jail. And then there was the. The rich side of the town, which was built after the fact is 3M opened down there. And 3M has a lot of, you know, wealthy people at that time. And whether it was the people that I went. Some of the people I went to school with, and then more that I met along the way through some skating, there just seemed to be this tinge of almost embarrassment.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And I was like, I don't like it. Didn't it. I didn't get it. Like, it didn't make sense to me. I said, people come from all over the world to, you know, to live here. Yeah. And when we travel, like, there's, like. There does seem to be a certain disdain for Americans.

[Tim Pool]

There was a time where people came to the United States where they wanted to become American.

[Priya Patel]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

That was real. And I think nowadays there's a significant amount of people that come to United States looking to extract.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, right.

[Tim Pool]

So the u. You talk about all the remittance payments that leave the country from illegal aliens or whatever, they don't come here because they want to share the American dream

[Priya Patel]

here to defraud the country. I mean, we can talk about even just. I mean, I know that the Somali communities in Minnesota have been such a hot topic for the last handful of months, but they're like some of some journalist friends of mine uncovered. I think it was $88 million that had gone through the Minneapolis airport and flown out of the country.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, yeah, we talked about that. Yeah.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah. And it's like they have to be moving $1 million in cash every single day. And guess what? The entire airport is run by Somalis. So it's. It's largely flying under the radar. Radar. And that's how much they had to declare. Imagine what they didn't have to declare. That was. That was just funneled out of the country.

[Tim Pool]

So, yeah, the idea that people want to come to the United States and become American, that's something that's actually novel. No, it's not. Yeah, it's novel. It's not the majority of people, which is, again, the reason why I want to shut down all immigration for at least a decade. And then let us just.

[Priya Patel]

Let us just bounce back from it. Let us. Let us get the people that are here legally in either either if they end up being essentially forfeiting their allegiance to the United States, which I argue a lot of them already have, they've gone against their, the oath that they take when they become naturalized. If you have an allegiance to a foreign nation, you should have your citizenship.

[Tim Pool]

You go to a protest and you're flying a foreign flag, that should be immediate.

[Priya Patel]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

Immediate deportation.

[Priya Patel]

Could not agree more. But like, aside from that, we need to get those type of people out of the country or force them to assimilate. And that's, that's only going to happen if we have a large. Yeah, exactly.

[Ian Crossland]

You're talking about non citizens waving foreign flags. Yeah, you weren't talking about me going out and waving a foreign flag.

[Priya Patel]

I'm talking about citizens.

[Ian Crossland]

You want to deport me if I go out and wave a Mexican flag?

[Priya Patel]

Were you born in the United States? Then, no, I don't have a right to deport you. But when you take an oath of citizenship to this country, you essentially say that your allegiance is to America, not a foreign nation. But there are people in Congress right now that say that their allegiance is to a foreign nation. That goes against your oath of citizenship.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, sometimes it's, I have an oath to the ethos of the United States, the nation itself. But if someone co ops the nation, I have a obligation to take it back.

[Priya Patel]

That's a different story.

[Tim Pool]

Through whatever, maybe.

[Ian Crossland]

But if it's my, you know, I have to justify. Is it too far? People think Trump has seized the country.

[Tim Pool]

Some people think that Trump's not flying a foreign flag. Trump doesn't have an allegiance.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, they do with a suit and a smile, but they think it's like foreign.

[Tim Pool]

This is a totally different topic, but,

[Priya Patel]

yeah, but I, I, I under, I understand your point, but this is a, it's a, it's a very specific topic and not relative to that specific point.

[Tim Pool]

If you come to the United States and you become a citizen and you're naturalized. Right. You're not, you're not born here, you're not a born citizen. And you're flying a flag of a foreign nation at a protest and you're like, you know, like, like you saw in la, there was a lot of people that were flying the Mexican flag. Like, I don't care if they're, if they're illegal or if they were, they came here and became a citizen, you should be stripped of your citizenship and deported. You're, if you have an allegiance to another country, like the Somalis in, in, in what? In Michigan or Minneapolis, if they have an allegiance to Somalia. Go back to Somalia.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, well, and I would argue if you are, if you're an immigrant to this country, whether you're legal or not, you should be stripped of your citizenship. If you're defrauding the country on that large of a scale, like those Somalis that are literally funneling money out of the country and into Africa, then yeah, you know what, you should be denaturalized and shipped back to your country of origin. I don't care if you came here.

[Tim Pool]

The argument that you get from the left all the time is, oh, well, you know, they bring such economic, such a great economic activity. They don't. They're literally taking the money that they make and they're sending it out. They're not paying taxes on it. They're just sending it out of the United States. So it's literally just extracting wealth from the United States. Those people should have, have to go,

[Priya Patel]

well, and, and on, like, on top of that, the argument that they actually are producers when it comes to the economy or stimulants to the economy, they're not, they Somali specifically pay like something a tenth of the taxes that the average white person in Minnesota does. So it's like, you're not, they're not paying taxes. They're largely on like government benefits. They're all on, they're all on like, subsidized.

[Tim Pool]

You shouldn't have that. You shouldn't be allowed to take any. Like, if you come to the United States, you shouldn't, you shouldn't be allowed to sign up for any government support or anything like that. You come to the United States, you, and you are allowed to stay. The reason that you're allowed to stay is because you're a benefit to the United States economically because you bring something to the country. You shouldn't be able to come to the country and be like, now let me get some kind of benefits and stuff like that. You should have to be second generation

[Ian Crossland]

people that are what a. Fleeing, like, oppression.

[Tim Pool]

So that's talking about asylum. And the only people that actually can get asylum are Canadians or Mexicans. Because the way that asylum works is as soon as you get to a country that is safe for you, if you're fleeing political oppression, if you go to your neighboring country and it's safe for you there, that's where you stop.

[Ian Crossland]

We take a boat to New York.

[Tim Pool]

Who's taking a boat? Who's taking a boat to the, to New York?

[Ian Crossland]

Someone fleeing like Nigeria. I don't know what country is in trouble right now. But someone fleeing there, they take a

[Tim Pool]

boat to New York, well, they shouldn't be allowed in. They can go to another country that's, that's bordering, that doesn't border, saying the

[Ian Crossland]

only way to claim asylum is to walk over the land to get to the United States.

[Priya Patel]

That's, that's essentially what stay in Mexico is.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the asylum. The way the asylum laws work is if you can go to a bordering country, that's safe for you. And, and an ocean is not a border. An ocean is an ocean. So if you can go to, if

[Ian Crossland]

you're on an island,

[Priya Patel]

go to Mexico.

[Ian Crossland]

Like real question.

[Brett Dasovic]

There were, there were people who were flying into Mexico so they could then

[Priya Patel]

walk like over the port. Yeah, yeah. Which is a whole. I mean, which ties into it, but that's a difference.

[Ian Crossland]

So you're saying if someone's on an island and then the genocidal dictator kills, they flee the island. They have to go to Mexico before they can come to the U.S. they can't just flee to the New York.

[Tim Pool]

So the only islands that I can think of that you'd be talking about

[Ian Crossland]

would be Cuba something.

[Tim Pool]

Right. And Cubans have been. I think that I would say, okay, we could make an exception for Cuba.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, don't.

[Tim Pool]

To entertain your argument, but otherwise.

[Brett Dasovic]

But don't they already do that with wet foot, dry foot policy? So basically they get here.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

If they catch them out in the ocean, they send them back. But if they make it to dry land, then they get sent for. What is it like Miami. Miami.

[Tim Pool]

But I mean, but so, yeah, to your point, fine. But also for the sake of argument, Cuba. But other than that, the only countries that actually have legitimate claim to asylum are Canada and Mexico. Anyone else from anywhere else, they have to stop at the first country that they come to save. England is, is an island. And they're, they're, they're not, they don't border the United States. And you've got Wales, you've got Scotland, you've got Ireland, and also you can go to France on the tube.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, they've got their own problems. Let them figure.

[Priya Patel]

The other problem is, is that when you make that specific argument, we're not even talking about just bordering nations. Everyone on the left at least ties in, like these Middle Eastern countries, these African countries. And guess what? We don't have an obligation to take them in. There are hundreds of nations that are much closer to them that should be obligated to take those refugees in way

[Tim Pool]

before with cultures that are far more Similar.

[Priya Patel]

That's exactly right. And like, look, I can only think of maybe a. Maybe one country that is under actual political persecution that we should allow refugees in from. Because they're compa. Yes, exactly. The whites in South Africa. Like, they would be highly compatible with our culture, but the large majority of nations on that side of the world would absolutely not be. And there are plenty of countries that they could go to to claim a sign asylum that would be much more compatible for them in their culture.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's where the suicidal empathy discussion comes in.

[Libsyn Ads Host]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

It's. Oh, you know, we can't let these poor people there. Poor people suffering. The meme is, oh, you know, poor child's crying. We have to tear up the constitution and throw it away.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And Instagram does that on their feed. They'll give you a dog suffering and, like, someone's saving a cat. And then they'll give you an ad to buy something next because it gets your emotions up. It's literally a tactic.

[Brett Dasovic]

Punch the monkey.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, punch the monkey. Punch.

[Ian Crossland]

Such a dangerous, powerful.

[Priya Patel]

Say that punch could probably, like, basically.

[Tim Pool]

Cause honestly. Oh, punch.

[Priya Patel]

I was gonna say everyone's uniting over. Just like, save little Punch.

[Ian Crossland]

What's punch?

[Brett Dasovic]

Punch is the new mu dang. Except for more depressing.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, punch the. The story has a happy ending. Punch.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, we talked about it today. Punch is a psyop.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. People to say punch the monkey over.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm not even kidding you. People were saying it's a. It's a. A distraction from Epstein.

[Priya Patel]

He's in South Korea, isn't he?

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, he's in. Oh, he's in Asia.

[Tim Pool]

It wasn't Japan, was it?

[Brett Dasovic]

He's in China.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm going to look it up.

[Priya Patel]

Is he in China? Well, if it's China, then it's definitely a scop.

[Brett Dasovic]

Somebody can look up.

[Tim Pool]

Definitely.

[Priya Patel]

Absolutely look up. What's the.

[Ian Crossland]

What's long and short of this.

[Brett Dasovic]

He's a very cute monkey who got

[Priya Patel]

rejected by his, like, those Labu dolls.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm sorry, Japan. Japan.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, Japan's fine. Japan's fine.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Japan's fine.

[Brett Dasovic]

No sign up from them.

[Priya Patel]

I largely trust Japan.

[Tim Pool]

We're gonna. We're gonna jump to this story here. What time is it? Oh, yeah, we're gonna jump to this story from the Post. Millennial CNN staffers crash out over Paramount wins bid after Paramount wins bid to take over parent company Warner Brothers in the wake of Warner Brothers Discovery saying that Paramount's counteroffer to Netflix's takeover bid was the superior year offer. CNN employees have expressed concern that layoffs are coming. CNN is a division of Warner Brothers Discovery, meaning Paramount and its head, David Ellison will soon be overseeing the left wing news outlet. One CNN staffer told Status, we are doomed. Another one said, we are effed. Yet another staffer said everybody is reeling about the obvious things. An insider told the outlet of the mood at the news outlet. The panic at CNN right now is off the charts.

[Brett Dasovic]

They were already panicking because they hate David Zaslav even, even though they, they work for him.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, their tears are delicious.

[Brett Dasovic]

But there's nothing.

[Priya Patel]

I know, I was going to say

[Brett Dasovic]

there was also to the point earlier, there was things being said, like, where filmmakers are like, I don't know how I feel about, you know, them being so cozy to Trump. And I said the same thing you did. I said, well, Ted Sarandos from Netflix has been an Obama donor. He was a Hillary donor. He was never. Sorry. He wasn't an Obama donor. He was a Hillary donor. He was a Biden donor. And of course he, you know, hosts Obama through Obama's production company. Company which has an exclusive deal with Netflix. Were they too cozy then? Yeah, like there was a great post that was like, they will never understand their own hypocrisy at the fact that, like, they've controlled every institution for so long that they can't imagine anything.

[Tim Pool]

Not going to your point about hypocrisy. It is not hypocrisy. It is hierarchy. It is okay when we do it, it is not okay when they do it.

[Priya Patel]

Rules for thee, but not exactly.

[Brett Dasovic]

Look, there are reasons to be generally distrustful of, of any level of consolidation. I do think, speaking purely from the entertainment perspective, because that's my, you know, my genre or whatever is like the wheelhouse. Yeah. I think that them going to Paramount is the far superior deal because they're going to focus on theatrical releases for the movies and maybe giving more, you know, space to the television shows because they're going to focus on putting entertainment first rather than the level of political influence that goes into Netflix productions and stuff like that. But like, the amount of money that they've spent on this, it's $111 billion, all cash offer, $31 a share, 47 billion of it coming from the Ellison's private trust. The rest of it's all debt financing. So they also take on all of Warner Brothers debt, which is like $33 billion, and they pay the $2.8 billion breakup fee. That's basically 6 saying they have to pay Netflix for basically pulling Warner Brothers away from.

[Tim Pool]

Impressive how you got all the numbers

[Brett Dasovic]

down like one on one. Well, I just did a video on it earlier, so. But the point being is like, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a good thing because the best option here would be that Warner Brothers operates independently and gets to, you know, live and die on their own. But it was very clear two years ago when they started canceling projects, basically signing things off to debt so that they could get, get tax, you know, tax breaks on projects that were already in being made at that time that what David Zasov wanted to do was sell the, sell the company off. But, you know, try. Some people don't believe that they would have passed regulatory approval. A lot of people believe that if Netflix had gotten the deal that Trump's, you know, cabinet wouldn't have allowed it to go through. Not to mention that part of the deal for Paramount is there's like a $7 billion insurance on there that if it doesn't pass regulatory approval, that will go to the Warner Brothers shareholders. So I mean, consolidation is bad, but watching people at CNN worry about whether Barry Weiss is going to be their

[Tim Pool]

boss, that's, that's one of the best parts about it. The post Millennial goes on. Netflix CEO Greg Peters said on Thursday that the company was no longer pursuing Warner Brothers discovery. The transaction we negotiated would have created shareholder value with a clear path to regulatory approval. However, we've always, always been disciplined and at the price required to match Paramount Skydance late Skydance's latest offer, the deal is no longer financially attractive. So we are declining to match the Paramount Skydance bid. Under Netflix deal. The streaming giant was seeking only streaming HBO and their film studio. Paramount sought to acquire Warner Brothers entire, entire company.

[Brett Dasovic]

The whole thing.

[Tim Pool]

Status said. Status said that CNN staffers are also panicking over the suddenly very real prospect that they could be working for Barry Weiss before the end of the year. In October, Paramount bought Weiss's outlet, the Free Press for 150 million DOL and Weiss was made editor in chief of Paramount owned CBS News. I love the fact that they're freaking out.

[Priya Patel]

The fact that in their mind, Barry Weiss is some like right. I know, radical is just so funny to me.

[Tim Pool]

Do you think that this is going to have an impact on their programming and their actual on air personalities?

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, like, I've already seen, like,

[Tim Pool]

are they going to bring Don Lemon back?

[Brett Dasovic]

That would be hilarious. It, my gosh, imagine the other funny thing about this. You'll love this is. Now James Gunn has to worry about working with David Ellison. And that's. Which means that maybe you'll get the Snyderverse back.

[Tim Pool]

I would love.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't want that to happen.

[Tim Pool]

I want that to happen.

[Brett Dasovic]

The point being that you want to

[Tim Pool]

see an old Ben. Ben Affleck. I want to see Ben Affleck as old Batman. That's what I want.

[Ian Crossland]

They. This is the fiat age of fiat. They're liquidating our assets. They're printing billions, trillions of dollars. They're corporately colluding now.

[Tim Pool]

They're.

[Ian Crossland]

They're consolidating the corporate power as the AI is growing underneath. And I understand it is. Sometimes it's fun to laugh at your enemy's pain, but that shouldn't distract you from what's actually happening. That this is a corporate. A gigantic. Because entertainment and information flow are one and the same a lot of ways. Like information entertainment is a type of information flow. Can be a very subversive type of information flow.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

That's. I'm so nervous, dude. I don't know what to do about it. It's like I'm watching it happen. And like, what do you do?

[Brett Dasovic]

Paramount? Look, Paramount isn't all good. They made Starfleet Academy. And from what I understand, everybody hates Starfleet Academy, so. But of course, that's from before Ellison's tenure there. And it's. It's very interesting. Apparently what we've learned is that no doesn't always mean no if you've got enough money.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no never means no if you got enough money. But to your point, you're talking about AI being the underlying kind of foundation. If AI is going to make people that are creative able to create things in a a with less friction, with less difficulty, how is it that the media is still going to be the giant that you say it's going to be?

[Ian Crossland]

Because they're going to siphon off percentages of everything that you make. 5%. You can use like Disney World, the VR realm, where you get to create all the different movies of Disney with yourself as actors. Licensing. They'll be licensing you. Percentage of this, it'll be $9,000 an hour or a second if you want to use Harrison Ford in this movie or whatever and like it.

[Brett Dasovic]

$9,000.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. You'll be able to set your. Your fee as an actor. Harrison Ford's probably worth about nine grand a second if you want him for a cameo in your movie. I don't think that that's $150,000 would be reasonable.

[Brett Dasovic]

You mean they're going to be paying Harrison Ford that way?

[Ian Crossland]

It would be like subscription fees. Go to Ford and then they'd take a cut of that. And that's where the AI starts clipping off bits. And you get this, like, siphon class, you know, like bankers collecting interest and stuff.

[Brett Dasovic]

When these actors sign contracts with these studios now, they sign the. Right away to even like, most of the time to their likeness. They've already. They're already being used. The same thing is happening to the animators in the industry where basically, if you're getting hired to do animation in Hollywood right now, you're being hired to do work that is going to be used to train your replacement, which is

[Ian Crossland]

AI I think it should be a human right to control of your likeness. Matthew McConaughey has been talking about it lately. Specifically, I kind of went the other route. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to make my Persona free for everyone to use, like public Commons and see how that goes. But the reality is no one else, unless you opt in, should have access to using your likeness for anything. No matter what you sign, what they're

[Tim Pool]

actually getting is the character.

[Ian Crossland]

That's what they'll say.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, because if they're like, oh, you know, we're doing like, for instance, you mentioned Harrison Ford, right? Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones. Harrison Ford is Han Solo. If someone's like, I want to put Han Solo in this thing. Well, the character is the property of now Disney. Right?

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, and you can. You can blame the, you know, the. The capitalism for that. Right? Which is that back in the day, the actor revolution, the benefits of this, by making massive amounts of money with, you know, off the backs of these things being made for. So like you said, for Harrison Ford, whether it's Indiana Jones or whether it's Han Solo, now Disney, you know, they sign before James Earl Jones died, they have the right to his voice in perpetuity forever. They can use that voice. And the companies will eventually hit a point where they're not going to need the actors anymore. First of all, like, you're not going to see a rise of new. New franchises that are going to be that way, be the size of an Indiana Jones or Star wars anyways. We don't live in a monoculture anymore.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, all that's done, like, you're. It's going to be niche stuff online. They're already doing. They're already planning to set up. It might even be on there right now for AI uploads on Disney plus where you're going to be able to make your own movies and stuff on there with various programs. Tim was ahead of the, the curve on that. I thought we were five years away from that. It was way sooner than that.

[Tim Pool]

Everything is going to happen so much faster.

[Brett Dasovic]

Disney is in a. If I, if I know, if I remember correctly, Disney has entered into an agreement with Open Air anyways to give their employees access to AI software to do their job better. So, you know, whatever that means at Disney. They're not good at their jobs anyways. But yeah, this story is actually, in a lot of ways it's not actually a good thing. It's. We only think it is because we like laughing at the people who are stuck working for David Ellison.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean look, that's, that's the, the part that's delicious about this right, is, is that they're, they're freaking out about, oh no, we're going to be, you know, we're going to be, you know, taken into the right wing echo chamber and blah, blah, blah. And that's why I asked if he thought that the, the programming possible.

[Brett Dasovic]

That, yeah. That there will be a change in the, in the way the programming looks.

[Tim Pool]

You think at the same time Trump,

[Brett Dasovic]

like Trump said he did, like when they did the, what was it, 60 Minutes with Marjorie Taylor Green. I think it was. And Trump's like this old, this new administration is just as bad as the old one. Even though it was, you know, Ellison in 60 Minutes.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean anytime you talk to Donald Trump and it's not, you know, glazing him, he's like, no, it wasn't, blah, blah, blah. So I mean, I understand that that's kind of par for the course when it comes to Donald Trump, but when you're talking about more broadly just the way that they treat the right. Right. Because obviously anyone on the right, they're not just on the right, they're a right wing extremist. The, the, that's been something that's been coming out of not just Congress. You hear Congress people and senators saying that. You've heard. They've been saying it for a decade. Anything that's to the left of or to the right of Hillary Clinton is a, is a far right extremist. But I, I wonder if they're actually going to start being a little more fair and at the very least their portrayal.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's possible that purely for, for financial reasons, I don't think it really matters anyways. I think like these institutions are dying for the most part, like legacy media as it is. Isn't the, isn't the cash cow that it was, that it would have been 20 or 30 years years ago?

[Tim Pool]

Well, yeah, go ahead.

[Priya Patel]

No, I was gonna say it's not. And the ones that are prospering are largely taking all of the eyeballs from the other ones. So.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean the, the, the way that technology is kind of, kind of actually manifest, it doesn't actually democratize everything, it hollows it out. So it's, it's basically all the big names just get super huge and then like the smaller guys find it, you know, kind of struggling over the, you know, fighting for the, the pieces and, and crumbs that are left over.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, well, and the cycle moves so quickly too. It's like, I mean we saw the rise of, for example, like Sydney Sweeney so quickly and it's kind of dying, you know, and it's going to continue to die. Like it, it, that's, that's how it's all going to be and that's why we don't have the, like you said, like the legacy franchises aren't going to mean anything anymore because everything's so fast paced nowadays. People don't have the, like the tension span for it.

[Tim Pool]

I, I do, I do wonder what I, I do look forward to seeing, you know, what kind of changes come to cnn. I do think that they're going to, they're going to make adjustments because they're not just, I mean, no one's going to, they're dying. Yeah, well, I mean, I understand that, but the point that I'm making is like no one's just going to be like, well, give it up guys. You know, let's, let's go ahead and just pack it in. You know, I mean, they just, just spent all this money on, on.

[Priya Patel]

They're going to be changing.

[Tim Pool]

They're going to be trying to cap and you know, do what they can to make their money back and make it a profitable deal.

[Brett Dasovic]

The furthest left people already, I'm not even kidding you, they already consider CNN far right because David Zaslav was in charge of them. So it's like that level of delusion is it's not tenable. You can't actually live in that world and expect people to like, like live in your reality. Yeah, it's not the real world and this is going to be, and I don't know, like you were talking earlier about the possibility that some of these companies get broken up. Like this is the, the only other deal That I can think of, when I think of like, the amount of. Of money that was moved here was like the debt financing that Disney had to acquire to buy Fox back in. What was that, 2018 or 2019? I forget what year it was that they ended up purchasing Fox, but they haven't even made their money back on that really. Not really. Like, all they've used it for is to make a bunch of movies that nobody watches because they didn't actually put any effort into marketing the Fox movies. They become avant garde things like Searchlight Pictures. And the rest of it is like basically Deadpool Laughing at 20th century X Men characters. But they're not making their money back on it. Just the way Disney hasn't made their money back on Star Wars.

[Tim Pool]

Disney hasn't made their money back on Star Wars. They blew that that bad. Can you imagine? Like one of the biggest franchises in film history and they literally destroyed.

[Brett Dasovic]

They got it for a song too. They got it for 4 billion. That's nothing in. In that. In that world.

[Tim Pool]

Unreal.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah. Well, really, I mean, every single production they've had when it comes to Star wars has been a complete train wreck. Other than maybe the first two seasons of Mandalorian. Mandalorian, Everything's just been botched.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, a lot of people liked Rogue One.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I was just gonna say one Rogue Run was actually good, but I think honestly, Rogue One. Rogue One was good. And I think that the reason that people think that Rogue One was. Was as good as it was was the last, what minute when Darth Vader is. Is going the same.

[Brett Dasovic]

People liked Andor. And I mean, nobody watched it.

[Tim Pool]

I haven't seen people really liked it.

[Brett Dasovic]

The ones that did watch it, like,

[Tim Pool]

I didn't watch it, but I didn't watch it.

[Brett Dasovic]

From what I know, people really liked it just cost a fortune. It was like $700 million to make.

[Priya Patel]

Did it make. Gets money back?

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, I don't even know. I don't know how you calculate that with stuff that goes to streaming. Because there's no.

[Priya Patel]

True. Because there's no direct revenue that's sourced towards the. That specific piece of production.

[Ian Crossland]

But interesting. I was thinking earlier now it's kind of pressure again. It's like the whole world, they want to be. They want to be American. They want to come to. Maybe they just want to siphon off what they think we got. But like, it's. We kind of have a duty now to impress the world. Like, yo, we are the best. And it's not like an ego thing. It's like our system is the best. I just happen to be lucky enough to be born here and continue to support it, but. And show that through movies and tv because that big business has been bought out by foreign entities, it seems like. I don't think they really care about Americanism. Like Captain America was America. Like, that was.

[Brett Dasovic]

The guy fought Nazis, you know, they tried to. We just did a story the other day that basically China tried to get Marvel or to get Sony. Excuse me. To take the Statue of Liberty scene out of. Far from. I'm sorry, out of no Way Home. You couldn't do it because it's like the whole last 20 minutes of the movie. Right?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, really?

[Brett Dasovic]

But yeah, I mean, not. There's no way you. The movie wouldn't have made any sense. I guess they could have like, digitally changed it somehow, but they were never going to do that. But now no Statue of Liberty in Brand New Day coming out because they want the China release.

[Tim Pool]

That's insane. It's in. We were talking about. You were mentioning this, like the fact that China even has that kind of leverage over American companies.

[Brett Dasovic]

Billion people, right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, you keep, like China keeps 75% of the box office, so you're getting scraps compared to what you get.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Domestically.

[Tim Pool]

It's not worth it to. To, you know, bastardize American properties and American culture like that either.

[Brett Dasovic]

It destroys a lot of goodwill that people have towards them. People got really upset when they released Black Panther in China and they put the head. The helmet on Boseman so that they could hide the fact that he was black to the Chinese audience.

[Tim Pool]

Chinese getting. They get inside, they sit down with their popcorn, they're like, oh, they'll just get up and run when they see. They think he was black people.

[Brett Dasovic]

They. Well, you know, it's. But the point was, is like they would hear. The Americans hear virtue signaling about, you know, racism and all the things that they do here. But then they're like going to cowtow to China just to make a couple extra bucks.

[Priya Patel]

Of course.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And see Se Dance.

[Tim Pool]

I was.

[Ian Crossland]

You see Dance this new AI. It's a Chinese AI that. You might have seen the Brad pit fight scene with Tom Cruise.

[Priya Patel]

Yes, I did. The one that looks like actually quite good.

[Ian Crossland]

So they don't really care about copyright. It seems like they're just like your copyright.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, they got. They got a bunch of like, requests from the companies to.

[Priya Patel]

I'm sure to stop that.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah. I mean, I don't do it, though. All those fights were the same, though. Like every sing, it was just different people and it was pretty much the same camera angles. And.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

It wasn't like the Brad pit one was funny just because it was like him talking about Epstein.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

To Tom Cruz.

[Tim Pool]

Good Lord.

[Brett Dasovic]

But otherwise, the rest of it was like. It's. It's novel because you can see John Wick fighting, I guess, Captain America or something like that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. But I mean, that, that's, you know, again, when it comes to AI, it's like every, every time something comes out and people are like, oh, man, that's cool. And then someone says, well, you know, criticize it or whatever. It's. It's still worth remembering. This is the worst it's ever going to be.

[Priya Patel]

That. That's exactly right. It's only getting better.

[Brett Dasovic]

Make a movie. I don't have to go home. A movie.

[Carter Banks]

Apparently. If we get 5 more super chats that are $5. Ian how. Has to sing a song.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, I can do that.

[Tim Pool]

No more super chats.

[Ian Crossland]

Have the guitar right here.

[Priya Patel]

Oh, five more.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry, you gotta wait.

[Brett Dasovic]

You can't do it yet. Then you're giving it away for free.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you gotta wait.

[Ian Crossland]

You gotta force me to do it.

[Tim Pool]

Or you gonna say, I don't even remember.

[Ian Crossland]

It was so good. Well, I was gonna say the points were so good. You were saying they were repetitively just different acts.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

They just kind of all looked the same.

[Ian Crossland]

It was so good. Good that, like, why would you ever make another movie?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

You don't even need cameras. So you can go360 in a room. You don't need, like, to worry about where the cameras are positioned.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the. What you were talking about how, like, I don't want to make a movie. Right. Like, I don't want to make a movie either. And, and there is. I understand that people are going to be able to prompt it and stuff, but to make a coherent movie that people are going to watch a lot of work that will still take. Even doing it with AI, it's going to take a decent amount of work. I mean, you can, you can. Can tell. You can tell. Chat, gpd. Give me a script. And then, you know, if you just plug it in and say, okay, make this. You're going to get those weird kind of AI.

[Priya Patel]

You're going to still have to train the AI to.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm still partial to like, one of the. One of the arguments they make now is that there's no such thing as the bankable action hero or the bank. Bankable actor anymore. That directors are More bankable than actors are because people will go to see a Sam Raimi movie. People will go to see a Quentin Tarantino, a movie. I don't want to go and in online and find. You're going to get the examples right. Where somebody that you've never heard of makes a great AI movie. But that's like just two steps too far. Like, I just, I don't like, I'm. I'd rather go to the theaters anyways. Is this.

[Ian Crossland]

It's kind of like subscribing to their YouTube channel. Like, they pump out good content on the weekly. You don't think that's what it's going to become?

[Brett Dasovic]

Is that, like, content is different than movies to me. Like, I like I. There's a lot of people, people that are, you know, that you've never heard of that. I love watching their YouTube videos or listening to their podcasts, but that's not the same thing as sitting down in a movie theater and actually watching somebody tell a story.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And like, so now that you know Claude can do such a good job, or, well, not just cloud, but AI can do such a good job at coding, you can go ahead and make your own apps. You can say, well, I want, you know, do this. You. They call it vibe coding. You just tell the AI what you want and tell it to do this and do that. But most people, I think, aren't interested in sitting down with a computer and saying, hey, make me an app for this. And one of the things that I think will still happen is people don't. I heard this on the. The Naval podcast. People don't want second best. Right. So when, when you go and you search for something, you're not going to say, find me an app that does this. You're going to say, find me the best app that does this. So the idea that everyone's going to make a bunch of stuff and everyone's just going to watch it and stuff. No, I, I don't think that's true. And the reason I don't is because people are going to say, find me the best. And so you're still going to have a situation where kind of the cream rises to the top.

[Brett Dasovic]

Even marketing matters.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, marketing matters, absolutely. But even if. Even if you're, you know, just doing searches and stuff, and that's why I mentioned absent, because there's not really the marketing with that. You're. You're just people that are looking to do things. They're going to say, make me the, you know, get me the Best of this. That's what people will use AI for. They won't say, say, you know, make me this app. They'll just say, hey, you know, get me the best one of these. And then you'll end up with a situation where there's one that's the best and that one gets spread around and that's the one that people use. And there'll be some people that don't like the, the interface or whatever. So there'll be a second one that's way down. And then after that there's gonna be a thousand apps that people were trying, but they didn't really hit the spot the way that the best didn't. So it's not the best. And I think that that's going to be more, more. I think that's, that's going to be more prevalent than the idea that there's this just chaos of different movies that you could watch and stuff. And it's something that even Tim mentioned. He was like, you know, you people are going to say, oh, you know, did you see blah, blah, Blah's movie? Well, that's kind of talking about my point. It's, it's. People are. Word of mouth will get around and people will say, get me the best of this and I want to watch the best stuff. And it's not going to be a situation where there's just a bajillion trillion of, you know, slop AI movies that people are watching. There will still be a situation where people are like, oh, I want to see. Did you hear about this one? I want to see it because everyone says it's good.

[Ian Crossland]

That makes me. I want to get rid of copyright. I don't like, I think copyright has been used insidiously to control data. Like, like your dad had a lot of money and bought a cartoon. Now no one else gets. Can ever use it because somebody paid money. Like it got invented by the British. From what I learned, Queen Elizabeth, I think to control the printing of the Bibles because they wanted to make sure they owned the flow of the Bibles going out. So if you want the best, you need access to the best data set. And if it's copywritten, you can't get it and then some secret society will be using it. So like, I feel like we're like, as you see with Sea Dance, they don't care about copyright and like, why would we hamstring ourselves if they're not. Not.

[Tim Pool]

But the, the point that I'm making is it, it would be an organic thing. It Wouldn't matter about copyright, where people are just like, oh, I want to see this one. Because I heard it was really good.

[Ian Crossland]

What I would. And sorry I interrupt, but what I would mean is like, okay, AI, build me an app, like the YouTube app, but change these things and it'll be, I cannot build an iteration of that copywritten app.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that, but, but that's, that's the point when, when you're talking to, when you're talking to an AI about coding, you wouldn't, you wouldn't have to mention YouTube. Make me a video player that'll do this, this and this and this. And I want this and this and this. You don't have to mention someone else's app. And the idea of a video player isn't something that's copywritten. Like, so there might be proprietary stuff that like, say YouTube has that wouldn't

[Brett Dasovic]

give you access to the content on YouTube though.

[Tim Pool]

That's true.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, like, the point he's saying is like, like to have like a version of it that could let you watch YouTube.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no, no, just a version of the data. Like, I don't if I want the code. Not like everyone has to give me all their code. I'm not saying, saying that, but we're up against people that don't care about your code, privacy rules and laws, and they don't care if you're Tom Cruise. They're going to use you in movies anyway.

[Tim Pool]

The thing that I'm the. When you go to, like when you are actually writing code or you're talking to an AI that can code for you, like, it's writing the code so you're not actually getting someone else's code. It's. It's writing code.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, have you ever used Suno?

[Carter Banks]

This is exactly where I thought this was going. And that's why I'm laughing so hard.

[Ian Crossland]

Hey, Suno, make me a song like the Beach Boys, but tech.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Ian Crossland]

And it'll be like, can't be copyrighted. Their song make me a song that's like how they get paid beat surfer rock. And it's like you say everything about them. Just hit the nail on the head.

[Tim Pool]

You can't say make a, you know, make me a song like all that Remains, but you can say make me a Metal core song, right? And there's a bunch of, a bunch of stuff that.

[Ian Crossland]

But if we want the best, we got to be able to bounce off the backs of. Of our forefathers.

[Tim Pool]

Why?

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I mean, that's how, that's how evolution Works.

[Tim Pool]

No, that. But the thing, no, the thing is, is when it's not that the AI is deciding what's best when I say that people are going to be looking for the best, people are going to decide what is.

[Priya Patel]

They're going to like, essentially just tweak things until it is, quote unquote, the best.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, Brett's point about marketing too, like, if you don't know it exists, then it wouldn't be on the ranking for the best, even if it was the best.

[Tim Pool]

That's more about advertising than anything.

[Priya Patel]

I was going to say it's like easy. It's easier than ever to advertise. I mean, you have the whole Internet at your fingertips.

[Ian Crossland]

The downside is everyone's advertising. So the pool is saturated also.

[Priya Patel]

Correct. So again, the creamers.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, look, you know, from my perspective, private.

[Ian Crossland]

You can't, you can't. Sorry.

[Tim Pool]

Well, just from my perspective, like, advertising is super important. I mean, I, we released, we released our most recent record and like, it was all self finance. We did it all. And the advertising, it was like, was as expensive as the production of the record.

[Brett Dasovic]

Is why the, the music industry is the way that it is.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

Because like a lot of the artists, you know, for all the artists that complain about, you know, the hold that the label had jazz on them, or the movie makers who complain about, you know, the studio wanting it to look this way, it's like, look, unless you're footing the bill.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

To, to market it to the public and they never acknowledge that part of it. They're never willing to admit that. Look, I'm, I want them to take a risk on my piece of avant garde art. What I want to take none of the risk to make it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. If you want to say, look, I'll license this, that's one thing. Right. They have, they have the license for five or seven years or whatever. So they make the lion share of the money, but then you get ownership back. That's kind of the way that the music industry has, has become nowadays. If you have, especially if you're a band that has a, A, a, you know, a fan base and you have a history, you know, it's easy to be like, we want a license for this long. Whereas it, when, when you're trying to start out and you're an unproven product, you have no history, you have no track record, you have no catalog, the label's not going to be like, yeah, we'll totally give it to you. Give you, you know, here's 100 grand. To do your record. And, and we don't know if you're gonna, if you're even gonna stay together for the next six months.

[Brett Dasovic]

The example is JoJo signed like the world's worst contract. It took like 20 years for her to get her song. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, and that's, you know, labels do that kind of stuff all the time. They're like, we, we san, we sign a band for the life of the band is kind of the way that they say it because they want to say we're putting all this money in up front and we'll, you know, you've got how. X amount. X amount of records. And so, you know, or for whatever the life of the band is. Every time we invest money in you and every time we spend money on marketing, you know, this, we want to make sure that we get our investment back. And a label will sign 10 bands and maybe one of them will go and do just be able to break even, never mind make a lot of money. So it's like if a label signs 50 bands, maybe one of them will become big enough to cover the loss on all the other bands.

[Brett Dasovic]

You were the one who told me that was like one ends up subsidizing pretty much all the other artists.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And so I, and I understand artists that, you know, when they're like, oh, you know, I don't own this and I don't own and blah blah, like I get it. You know, we've got like tons of stuff that we don't own that we'll never own. But like at the same time, like the reason we have a career, the reason we can still go and, and go on tour and know that people are going to come. The reason that people are still listening to our Spotify million times, you know, millions of times a month is because of the effort that was put in by us writing. But also the label, you know, putting effort in and putting us into video games and getting our stuff on the radio and, and making sure that people were listening to our stuff.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know, it's true of the people who end up doing a lot of genre sci fi. Right. Like they don't end up getting residuals on a lot of the shows that they do, but they, they've got convention spots for life where they will be able to make money off that for as long as they're alive. Their face is going to make them money.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's the, the label really does do a lot of the legwork in helping you build a Career. And once you've built that career, once your name is out there, they can't take that from you. Like, you know, they. They. If you. I mean, I suppose if you sign a bad contract and they own the name, that. That's a terrible idea. But labels don't usually own the name of a. Of an artist. They're like, okay, we'll sign you. We'll own the music that you do for us. The music that we pay to produce, we pay for, this time, the studio. We own the master tapes. But otherwise, you still have a career if you get off the label or whatever.

[Brett Dasovic]

WWE owns John Cena's real name, they get a piece of everything he does, even though it's his actual real name, he loves it. He's like. He's the. He's the quintessential company dude.

[Priya Patel]

He's the face of wwe, essentially, and he probably will be forever.

[Tim Pool]

All right, I think we're about. It's about time we go to Super Chats.

[Carter Banks]

Before we get into it, I must say, we have some news. Ian, We've. We've got your grand goal mat. So if you stay until the end, we'll. Ian's gonna play at 9:55. We'll do our outros, and then you will have the encore. Take it away.

[Tim Pool]

All right, so smash the like button. Share the show with all your friends. Go to timcast.com and become a member there. Join our Discord and then head on. Head on over to rumble.com where you can watch the after show. There's no after show tonight. It's Friday, but it's Monday through Thursday. We spend an hour after the show. Talk. Talking. We have people call in from the Discord. We have an uncensored version because. Well, an uncensored show because YouTube is still kind of, you know, finicky about what you can or can't say, but Rumble doesn't care.

[Ian Crossland]

So censorship can be good sometimes.

[Priya Patel]

No, but anyways, no, norms can be good.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, censorship. If it's. If it's censoring what you're wearing, won't

[Brett Dasovic]

you think of the kids?

[Tim Pool]

All right, we're gonna go to. Where's the Super Chats button Here.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, I'm so pumped for this. I saw those Super Chats.

[Tim Pool]

I saw someone.

[Priya Patel]

They were flying in.

[Tim Pool]

It's like super Chat, chat, chat, chat.

[Ian Crossland]

Someone chatted 4.99. I don't think it counted towards the $5.

[Tim Pool]

There's.

[Priya Patel]

They. They. They intentionally left that $0.01 out so that you wouldn't play it.

[Ian Crossland]

Was like that girl that left me a nickel tip when I was waiting tables. Just let me know she didn't forget.

[Tim Pool]

There we go. All right, let's see here. What do we got? What do we got? We got. Got Carlo Mangione. Cal says, ian, are you Slash or Gary Oldman's Dracula?

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, Gary Oldman did that. I was, like, going the Ozzy Osbourne route, but Phil was like, what's up, Slash?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's definitely the Ozzy didn't really. Wasn't really known for top hat. Not that he hasn't worn a top hat, but that whole sunglasses and. And top hat is Slash signature.

[Ian Crossland]

I think I'm slashed. It's. Slash wore a trench coat on stage.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. Again, I don't think that it was a constant thing, but I'm sure that he has. You know, I mean, look, Axl Rose wore a kilt and a catcher's chest protector in one show. I remember so well.

[Ian Crossland]

Craziest flash is the answer.

[Tim Pool]

All right, there you go. Let's see. Doo Doo 175 says it was missed before. If this calling was never your ringtone, you suck, ATR. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Cerebral Bagamon says I'm a combat vet trying to leave a bad situation. Please need to relocate as quick as possible. Please view my Give send go page. God bless. Go Trump. There we go. Someone else says James 35124 says, is Ian channeling Slash from Guns and Roses tonight? Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, it's too slashy, isn't it? It's very slashy.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, it's. It's definitely Slash.

[Ian Crossland]

I just haven't seen him lately.

[Tim Pool]

Circle glasses and the. The. Yeah. Top hat is. That is exactly what Slash Wore, like, from 1986 to, like, 1990.

[Priya Patel]

It's immediately what I thought about when I saw you. That's why I asked if there was a goal.

[Tim Pool]

As a member of Gen Z, knowing Slash is actually fairly impressive.

[Priya Patel]

Is it?

[Libsyn Ads Host]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

A lot of Gen Z people don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

What's your favorite Guns N' Roses song?

[Priya Patel]

That's tough. I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

Mine's November Rain.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's what you should play when we go.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know it. It's really long, too.

[Carter Banks]

I shouldn't play that because it might get us cop.

[Ian Crossland]

Mr. Brownstone's good too. That whole Appetite for Destruction album is so good.

[Tim Pool]

Like, one in a million. All right, what's this? S. Federali says hold up. Is she the cun? Valhalla brother brand of Patel. I feel like. I feel like that name got glossed over. No. No relation to. To the director of the FBI. Okay.

[Brett Dasovic]

Do you get that a lot? Do they ask?

[Priya Patel]

I do. You know what? It's so funny. I'm. I'm like, I don't. I don't know that anyone's ever been to a hospital before or a liquor store, but the name Patel is incredibly popular.

[Tim Pool]

Or a liquor store.

[Priya Patel]

They're literally a hotel motel.

[Brett Dasovic]

Know each other?

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, No, I get. Every single day, I get. Are you Cash Patel's wife? Are you Cash Patel's cousin? Are you Cash Patel's daughter? I'm like, nope, no relation. I've met the man one time in passing at a restaurant. Other than that, I can safely say no relation, at least to my knowledge.

[Brett Dasovic]

Make a comment about how you had the same. Same name.

[Priya Patel]

I don't think so. We were. No, I don't think so. I think. I think whoever introduced us very briefly might have said something, but I definitely.

[Brett Dasovic]

Two Smiths aren't like, hey, Smith.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, I. Well, right. Like, have you ever. Have you ever encountered anybody else with a common name that does that?

[Ian Crossland]

No.

[Priya Patel]

Esp. Don't. Like we. I don't. I don't know. We. We don't care. It's not novel in any way, shape or form.

[Tim Pool]

I'm pretty sure that I saw someone with a announcement of having a baby, and I'm trying.

[Carter Banks]

I think I saw that one, too.

[Tim Pool]

There's a lot of people that want to see you sing tonight, Ian. So good.

[Carter Banks]

Trying to figure out what you should say.

[Ian Crossland]

Find me with words. Unless.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, here we go. From Tay Adams, 7049. He says, Proud to announce the birth of my. Wait a minute. Your wife has. It says, proud to announce the birth of my wife and my third child, Victoria Baptiste. I think he meant proud to announce the birth of his third child. But anyways, congratulations. That's what we love to hear.

[Brett Dasovic]

Don't worry about that, man. Like, I'm already bad enough at reading, and when I'm trying to read the super chats on our show, it's just.

[Tim Pool]

He legit. He legitimately says, proud to announce the birth of my wife and my third child.

[Ian Crossland]

So that is so awesome.

[Tim Pool]

I think that. That, you know, sometimes YouTube is a little. Or, yeah, the YouTube app bit is a little. A little funky when you're actually putting in super chats, but that's the thing

[Ian Crossland]

about life extension is you're going to be, like, hanging out with your great, great Great great granddaughter's best friends and they're all going to look like you're 30.

[Tim Pool]

It's going to be wild. Ziggurath says dating as as Gen Z especially an average looking guy is a hellscape. Espes. Especially if you were conservative, stuck in a libtard state. I would love to find a good woman and have kids with, but I'm about to give up to be honest. Well, don't give up. And definitely don't settle for an AI chatbot because you'll never get a kid out of that.

[Brett Dasovic]

You can always do what I do or what I did. I, I sent my wife a Joseph Stalin meme.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Brett Dasovic]

Recorded her.

[Tim Pool]

Great way to break the ice.

[Brett Dasovic]

Dark humor is like food. Not everybody gets it.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Priya Patel]

It's pretty good.

[Tim Pool]

Corey Richmond says my biggest pet peeve is a grown man wearing crocs pajama pants, an anime hoodie with unkempt beard and hair. Hair in public. Have some dignity. I completely understand that. Like if you are a grown man and you're wearing an outfit like that, particularly if you have a gigantic belly because they always, they always seem to have a gigantic belly.

[Priya Patel]

Like it pops out a little bit.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And, and the shirt doesn't quite cover it and everyone has to look at their underbelly. It's disgusting. I completely agree. You should have some dignity and respect for yourself less.

[Brett Dasovic]

Unless you're at the airport. Then wear whatever you want.

[Priya Patel]

No, don't listen to him. Don't listen to him.

[Ian Crossland]

Anything?

[Priya Patel]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Let's see.

[Priya Patel]

Less obesity and less pajamas in public.

[Tim Pool]

Go to, go to the gym. Put the fork down. Andre says Phil, what do you make of people like me? Millennial, Christian, conservative, grew up with 4chan. Well, there's your problem. Stuck in Quebec. Stan, All I want is to be a hillbilly in the woods with my dog. Chickens and guns. Don't care about voting. I mean look man, I'm still of the opinion opinion that we should shut the border down. But if you snuck in and you lived in the woods in like Vermont or in New Hampshire. Yeah. You get deported less. I mean look, if you stay in the woods I might never find you.

[Priya Patel]

So just completely off grid.

[Tim Pool]

Off grid. You if you get, get yourself some chickens. Go into town once a month. You know, if you're up in the hills up in northern New Hampshire or in Maine. Maine's got a lot of of woods up there.

[Brett Dasovic]

Unabomber was doing.

[Tim Pool]

I would, I don't think he was.

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, it's a great Comparison.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. So you could probably fly under the radar if you do that. So, you know, stay out of the cities. You know, let's see, there's a lot of people that are like, someone please give me in a guitar.

[Ian Crossland]

How much for Ian not to sing?

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ian Crossland]

That's the goal.

[Brett Dasovic]

Ten more ten dollar super chats and

[Priya Patel]

Ian won't like one large thousand dollar super chat just to please don't silence you forever.

[Ian Crossland]

That'd be tough. That'd be a good one.

[Tim Pool]

Omega Ratsu says, sorry, but feminism existed since the French Revolution and Marx plagiarized Flora Tristan and she got her cues from the French Flora Tristan. 1843. Workers of the world unite. Marx copied in 1848. Look man, there is socialism that is not Marxist socialism. And I completely understand that. The French Revolution was kind of really where social media socialism kind of started off. I kind of. There was, there were people that influenced Rousseau, but Rousseau kind of really made it popular with the whole like man is actually, you know, separated from his work and we need to make, you know, men closer to what they were when they were not living in cities and stuff. So. I understand what you're saying. You, I. Your point is well taken. You're completely right. But I do think that it, it's, it makes sense to kind of attribute Marx when it comes to talking about communism. Most of your socialists nowadays days are Marxists of some kind, so. But again, you know, even modern socialism, modern, modern communists, they're the gay race communists, they're more, you know, influenced by Marus and, and Foucault and the, the postmodernist school, so. But again, like I said, I'm not, not hating on your, your comment. You're right. Cabbage Rolls says communism is a lie. There's never been a political system in the world where people had more power than in the usa. Communism is worse than a monarchy. I agree. Generally, you know, let's see. Saint. Saint Truther. Ian, I have made an NPC for a D and D campaign inspired by you using an AI tool called Quest Portal. He is a wood elf bard named Ian of the Crosslands. Take care and rock on, Ian. Love you, bro. That is awesome, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, follow up, let me know later how, how accurate it is.

[Tim Pool]

You like Poppins. Patch video says seems like broken window theory. If you dress well, you. You ideally behave better and encourage others to do so. If you allow your environment to be trashy, more trashy behavior will be seen as acceptable. I agree with that too. Yeah, like if you. If you take pride in yourself, then other people will treat you that way. And that. That's also another thing is if you're out in public, and I understand, Brett, I know you're giving.

[Brett Dasovic]

If your airport is a 10, but if you're.

[Tim Pool]

If you're in public and you look put together and you look well dressed, you are going to have people have people. You are going to have people respond to you differently than if you look unkempt and if you look like you're kind of a pile of dirty clothes.

[Priya Patel]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

All right, well, it is five, four minutes of. Ian, you want to do the.

[Carter Banks]

Let's do the. Let's do outro.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Okay. So, Priya, do you. Do you have anything you want to shout out or anything where people tell people where they can find you?

[Priya Patel]

You can find me on pretty much all the social media apps. It's always my first name followed by two E's. P, R, I, Y, A, E, E. And yeah, thanks for having me.

[Tim Pool]

Thank you very much, guys.

[Brett Dasovic]

If you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. And what you should do is check out Pop Culture Crisis. We are live Monday through Friday, 3pm Eastern Standard Time, which is, of course, noon Pacific. YouTube Rumble. And you can listen to it on Spotify and all audio platforms as well. Thanks, guys.

[Ian Crossland]

Ian Crossland. Oh, Carter, sorry

[Carter Banks]

for today. I'll just go first and then I'll.

[Ian Crossland]

I like it. It goes circle and. Yeah, it gets to go Phil and then Tim.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, let me plug my crap.

[Carter Banks]

So, yeah, I am Carter Banks. You can follow me everywhere at Carter Banks. On Instagram? No, except for Instagram, where someone's been sitting on my URL name. And there's a 4. Alice. The end of it. And follow Trash house Records on YouTube at Trash House Records.

[Tim Pool]

Phil, I am Filler Remains on Twix. You can check out my Patreon, where I've been writing little op Ed pieces lately. That's patreon.com filter remains. The band is all that remains. We're going on tour this spring. We're going out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes. You can go to all that Remains online to get VIP tickets. They're available. You can get tickets. Actually, you can get tickets at all the Remains Online talk as well. You can check out the music on Apple Music, Amazon music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime. Ian, sing us out, my man.

[Ian Crossland]

Thank you very much.

[Priya Patel]

Thank you very much.

[Ian Crossland]

Song's called high

[Tim Pool]

hitting. Yeah, I know.

[Guest Singer]

Music is alive and you've been running through my mind. Your eyes are telling me it's right. And we got nothing left to hide. We can go higher and higher. We're high. Yeah, the world is ours and we are light. Don't look back we've crossed all lines. We are flying, we are divine. Just say in this life I know it's alright to go where we come and leave when we might it's endless faith Just hang on tight and we both let go when the feeling's right I won't pretend not to think it's the end when the music is playing ain't it not? We got love and we got each other.

[Ian Crossland]

We got now and we got forever.

[Guest Singer]

We can go higher and higher. We're high the world is ours and we are light. Don't look back we've crossed all lines yeah, we are free, we are divine. I say in this life I know, I know it's alright to go where we come and leave when we silly when we might let's fade just hang on tight and we both will let go when the feeling's right. I won't pretend not to think it's the end when the music is playing Ain't it nice? We got love and we got each other. We got now and we got forever.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah,

[Guest Singer]

We're going to the moon Big balloon that floats upright it's shaped like candy shells and Taco bell and an octopus in flight or catch the driftwind calling where there were falling's relative in sight so I will grab a net or jump the fences planetary light I give you everything I can I'm only a human I'll give you what I'm going. They say this now with a frown as with a bangtast explode of energy Giving up ain't for free I said enough ain't for free oh in this life I know it's all right to go where we come and leave when we might is endless faith Just hang on tight and we're both let go when the feeling's right I won't pretend not to think it's the end when the music's playing I ain't that nice. We got love and we got each other. We got now and we got river and I said oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. I said it oh oh yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Thank you very much.

[Tim Pool]

All right, everybody, we'll see you guys on Monday.

[Brett Dasovic]

Sa.