WE'RE GOING IN w/ Austin Rodgers & Adam Johnson

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – “WE'RE GOING IN w/ Austin Rogers & Adam Johnson”

Date: March 4, 2026
Guests: Austin Rogers (Congressional Candidate, FL-2), Adam Johnson (Manatee County Commission Candidate), Libby Emmons (Host, The PodMillennial), Phil Labonte (Musician), Carter Banks (Producer)

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the rapidly escalating US-Iran conflict, US and Israeli military actions, and the domestic political reverberations, all as Texas primary election results roll in. The roundtable, led by Tim Pool, features candidates, journalists, and cultural commentators unpacking the momentum toward war, the failures and risks of regime change, why boots on the ground may be inevitable—and the fractious reaction across American political divides. The crew also pivots to primary races in Texas, reactions to candidates like Jasmine Crockett and Brandon Herrera, and what political shakeups mean for the national scene. Expect unfiltered insights, skepticism toward official narratives, and plenty of in-the-moment commentary as results break live.

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Table of Contents

1. Escalation and the “War” With Iran
2. Regime Change, Military Strategy, and Historical Parallels
3. Skepticism and Support for Trump’s Foreign Policy
4. Immigration, Islamic Terror, and Domestic Threats
5. Texas Primary Election Live Reactions
6. Notable Quotes
7. Timestamps for Key Moments

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1. Escalation and the “War” With Iran

• [03:03] Tim Pool opens with the dire warning of “the likelihood that we put boots on the ground is unfortunately going up,” citing recent US and Israeli military moves, the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, and increased strikes by Iran on US and allied interests.
• [07:24] Discussion centers on Senator Blumenthal’s statement after a classified briefing, with skepticism about his purported fears.
• Tim and guests challenge the administration’s ambiguity: Is this officially war? What triggers boots on the ground? The group agrees that public messaging is intentionally opaque.
• Multiple panelists note the historic pattern: proxy, "coalition" or covert involvement often precedes overt US mobilization.

Memorable Quote:

“You have order in Iran. We keep blowing up their leadership. Eventually you get brutal Islamic disorder... Fighter jets don’t occupy street corners, people do.”
— Tim Pool [31:51]

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2. Regime Change, Military Strategy, and Historical Parallels

• [10:45–18:33] The panel interrogates the logic and legacy of regime change—comparing Iran to Vietnam, Libya, Afghanistan, and Japan post-WWII.
• [26:15] Tim Pool: “If you create a power vacuum in Iran, the most brutal guy is going to win again. So we can bomb their formal government and leadership, but you are going to get terrorist insurgent cells... Unless someone goes in and occupies it. That seems the most probable outcome.”
• [27:12–30:59] Austin Rogers pushes back: “Geopolitical landscape has fundamentally shifted during Trump’s tenure... these situations aren’t like the other Libya [wars]… We're dealing with a leader now who actually has the stones, the fortitude to do the right thing.” Libby and Tim are skeptical, citing decades of failed interventions.
• Syria and Venezuela are compared as case studies in “surgical” operations versus open-ended failures.

Notable Exchange:

• Phil Labonte: “This Iran op is actually more about China than Russia. China takes like 80% of the oil from Iran… They don’t mind going around the sanctions…” [14:54]
• Libby Emmons: “What you have is another WMD oil war, right? That's what's going on every time.” [13:05]

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3. Skepticism and Support for Trump’s Foreign Policy

• Panelists debate how consistent Trump is with his promises (e.g., ending “forever wars”) versus driving new conflicts.

  • Adam Johnson: “I voted for him in 16, 20 and 24... I got five kids, one is of draft age, two are approaching draft age. I don't want new war. And what he ran on mostly for 24, in my opinion, it was the economy. And whether we like it or not, America is a war economy.” [21:46]

• “Surgical” strikes versus real regime change: while some panelists argue Trump is more tactical and avoids major entanglements, others point to the scale of military actions as de facto war and foresee inevitable occupation.

• [58:39] Debate erupts on semantics/legal definitions: Is the US “at war” or engaged in an “armed conflict”? Tim repeatedly insists “the dictionary definition is a state of armed conflict... we’re at war.” Austin Rogers, as a lawyer and candidate, hedges for legal specificity.

  • Tim: “No human being anywhere is going to agree with you and you know it.”
  • Phil Labonte: “You’re just trying to get into Congress.”
  • [66:00]

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4. Immigration, Islamic Terror, and Domestic Threats

• Rising homeland security concerns are sparked by mass shootings and terror links, notably the Austin attack, and the panel lays blame with lax immigration controls.
• [50:27] Libby Emmons: “Does that give credence to the notion that we need to put a stop to legal immigration as well as...?”
• Phil Labonte: “We should have very strict requirements about who is and isn't let in to become a citizen.” [51:30]
• DACA ("Dreamers") and birthright citizenship are hotly debated, with Tim and Phil both asserting there should be less leniency regardless of age, tenure, or circumstances.
  • Tim: “Every single time we do amnesty, they go, this will be the last time. And then they do it again.” [83:25]
• The conversation briefly touches on surrogacy and “blood boy” anti-aging trends among the wealthy, punctuated by characteristic Timcast irreverence.

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5. Texas Primary Election – Live Reactions & Political Shakeups

• Throughout the episode (esp. [66:03–109:13]), Tim and crew track Texas election results in real-time, especially races involving Brandon Herrera, Tony Gonzalez, Jasmine Crockett, and Dan Crenshaw.
  • Brandon Herrera’s race is followed closely, with commentary on insider gamesmanship, scandals, and the difficulty of outsider candidates overcoming “the machine.”
  • Libby: “Gotta say, I would miss Jasmine Crockett on the national stage. She is fun to watch.” [73:20]
  • Phil: “The idea of Gonzalez winning after all that stuff… it seems like those people have to be completely checked out. They don’t know about the situation.” [77:58]
• Deep skepticism about establishment “rigging” and media manipulation (Tim excoriates Colbert for Election interference [66:13–81:53]).
• Crenshaw’s surprising defeat is celebrated as an example of anti-incumbent energy.
• The prediction market (Kalshi) is referenced repeatedly as an alternative lens on the “odds” of various races.

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6. Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “We keep blowing up their leadership. Eventually you get brutal Islamic disorder... Fighter jets don't occupy street corners, people do.”
  — Tim Pool [31:51]

• “If you create a power vacuum in Iran, the most brutal guy is going to win again.”
  — Tim Pool [26:15]

• On semantics:
  “No human being anywhere is going to agree with you and you know it.” — Tim Pool to Austin Rogers [62:18]
  “You're just trying to get into Congress.” — Phil Labonte to Austin Rogers [65:41]

• On the war economy:
  “Whether we like it or not, America is a war economy. And doing these moves, making these maneuvers, this is how we get our economy back on track.”
  — Adam Johnson [21:46]

• On past interventions:
  “ISIS did not care at all... and they defied the norms we grew to expect because they were ... as brutal as you could get.”
  — Tim Pool [30:59]

• On illegal immigration and amnesty:
  “Every single time we do amnesty, they go, this will be the last time. And then they do it again.”
  — Tim Pool [83:25]

• On “post-intervention stress disorder”:
  “We have post intervention stress disorder due to the failures of the Bush administration's interventions in the Middle East.”
  — Tim Pool [29:36]

• On Jasmine Crockett:
  “She'll be on The View.”
  — Adam Johnson [73:24]

• On congruence of names and fate (lighter moment):
  “Chris Moneymaker... What do you think he does?... He's one of the most famous poker players.”
  — Tim Pool [104:52]

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7. Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:03] – Tim’s opening analysis of Iran conflict escalation
• [07:24] – Senator Blumenthal’s remarks and skepticism
• [10:45–18:33] – Regime change, precedent, power vacuums, and war calculus
• [26:15–31:51] – Iran post-strike scenarios, risk of insurgency, and occupation debate
• [50:27–53:04] – Islamic immigration, crime, terror fears, and vetting
• [58:39–66:00] – “Are we at war with Iran?”—semantics, law, and public understanding
• [66:03–109:13] – Texas election results live, candidate scandals, outcomes and predictions
• [83:25] – Amnesty debate: “Every single time we do amnesty...”
• [104:52] – Light moment: Names and fates (Chris Moneymaker)

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Tone and Language

Tone:
Unfiltered, confrontational, dryly humorous, skeptical of establishment narratives, and often combative, especially regarding political and legal semantics.

Notable Moments:

• Running jokes and banter about candidate scandals, campaign “math,” and the infamous “blood boy” plasma therapy trend for longevity.
• Live reactions to breaking Texas race updates serve as both running subplot and commentary on political malaise/disruption.

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Useful for Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In:

This episode offers an exceptionally candid and critical conversation about US foreign policy misadventures, the fine line between “surgical” strikes and outright war, and the underlying domestic consequences—not only for America’s global standing but for who gets elected at home. The commentary is grounded with real-time electoral results, vivid historical analogies, and punchy quotes that bring the nation's mood into sharp focus.

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For further details on quotes, context, or to track a particular discussion, refer to the timestamps above.

Transcript

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The likelihood that we put boots on the ground is unfortunately going up. At least I think, in the general opinion, it's not guaranteed. We don't know for sure, but the Democrats have come out saying they are fearful, based on what they are saying that the likelihood we are going to put boots on the ground is increasing. Whether or not we trust them, I don't know. But I got to be honest, I don't think Democrats are actually fearful of it. I think they're talking out the side of their mouths going like, oh no, I hope we don't have boots on the ground. Wink. Yeah. At the same time, Israel is calling up 100,000 reservists. And the question there is for what purpose do you need 100,000 people active across the country? Well, to be fair, there's probably ground operations in Israel. They do need people for, but 100,000 is quite a bit. And then there's the ultimate logic, which is how do you guarantee that the regime you've, you've, or I should say the supreme leader that you've taken out and his leadership is not replaced by the exact same structure. You can't unless there is some form of occupation. So perhaps it won't be direct US troops, but it seems incredibly likely this will be the outcome. And that appears to be an ever increasing opinion that people are having. But again, we're gonna see and we're gonna show you exactly what the Democrats as Blumenthal he's saying, I fear it's going to happen, as well as the information that we've been getting from Israel. But when you factor in those fears And I think again, the general assessment and fears people have with the fact that a US Base was just struck by Iran and that a CIA facility was also just struck by Iran and that they've been striking civilian targets and they've, they've shut down the Strait of Hormuz if we don't get a handle on this quickly and actually stop their government and their capability to fight, which again, Trump says we've done largely, but if they're allowed to continue, it's going to cause severe economic crises around the planet. Which means again, I think the general assessment is how do you solve this unless you actually get people in to shut down those military capabilities? So we got to talk about that. But my friends, there's much, much bigger news. I know it's funny to say, right, but in Texas we got big elections happening right now and we are all rooting for Brandon Herrera who is 91% in the prediction markets to win. And that's what want to see. 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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Austin Rogers.

[Austin Rogers]

Hey Austin Rogers. Running for Congress in the 2nd congressional district and of Florida. Good point. From the panhandle and for the panhandle is our slogan. And you know, in my district it matters that you know how to throw a cast net, that you know how to tie a fishing knot. I know how to do that but also have experience in Washington serving as chief counsel on Senate Judiciary Committee and serving as Senator Rick Scott's general counsel. So not a swamp creature, but know the swamp. Know firsthand how it's broken and looking forward to fixing it.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. Should be fun. Good time to join with all these this politics and the war stuff. So great to have you. We have another man here.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, hey, Adam Johnson here, author, terrorist and all around nice guy. I am also running for office, not Congress. It is a Manatee county commission and I need your help. You can go to vote AdamJohnson.com donate to my campaign. It's looking really good. We're out raising almost everyone in my race right now. And I'm going back to the government threw me in prison.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it's going to be fun. Good to have you, brother. Libby's here.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm hanging out. Glad to be here with you guys. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm the host of the POD Millennial new podcast. Our episode with your favorite podcast host, Tim Pool dropped today. So I'm really excited about that and I hope you go check it out.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Honor.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary.

[Tim Pool]

Carter.

[Austin Rogers]

What's up, everyone?

[Tim Pool]

Carter Banks here holding it down button

[Austin Rogers]

wise and delivering a great show for y'.

[Tim Pool]

All. Tim, glad you're back. Adam, good to see you again. It's been a couple of, couple weeks maybe. And then he lives here now.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Thanks for coming out. All right, let's get it. We got the story from the Washington Examiner, Senate Democrat, quote, more fearful than ever of US Troop deployment to Iran after briefing. And you know, I'm gonna say it outright, I don't actually think he's fearful at all. I think he got a briefing and inside they're all going like, woo. And they started jumping up on the table and clicking their heels and doing a tap dance. And then they're like, stop, stop, stop, stop. Calm down. Poker face, poker face. I'm just so worried about boots on there. Let me play the video for you and stop goofing off. Here you go.

[Austin Rogers]

I just want to say

[Tim Pool]

I am more fearful than ever after this briefing that we may be putting boots on

[Austin Rogers]

the ground and that troops from the

[Tim Pool]

United States may be necessary to accomplish objectives that the administration seems to have.

[Austin Rogers]

But I also am no more clear on what the priorities are going to be of the administration going forward, whether it is destroying the nuclear capacity of Iran or simply the missiles or regime change or stopping terrorist activities. And I think the administration owes it to the American people to have briefings

[Tim Pool]

not just for members of Congress, but

[Libby Emmons]

for the American public.

[Tim Pool]

Nothing here should have been classified. So I'm going to go ahead and say, yeah, I think there's probably boots on the ground. We have. This from Times of Israel is actually an older story. It's from a few days ago. IDF mobilizes 1 0,000 reservists amid war with Iran. So we have all of these indicators and I think to the point made by Senator Blumenthal, they're getting these briefings And I believe what you're getting is they would never, and they could never come out and just say, we, we hereby declare warning around and we're sending in the troops because there would be revolt instantly. So what you need is some kind of casus belli and then after that, some kind of justification for furtherance of that war. We have had a US Air base struck. We have had a CIA facility struck with the Strait of Hormuz closed. All of these things are causing the water to boil. And at a certain point, you are going to have, in my opinion, I'm not saying for sure, but if this continues like this, you will then get Hegseth or Trump or someone coming out being like, we lost so many American lives today. It's unfortunate. We may have no choice but to shut them down. They've refused to surrender. And that's when you start getting an escalation of boots on the ground. Now, again, with what we've seen in Ukraine, they don't play that game anymore where they're like, deploy the troops. They go. A coalition of volunteers have decided to go in. Many of them, of course, are US Veterans who are being paid circuitously through various means. But ultimately the sources of the funding is the US Government, and the US Isn't involved. So I expect the possibility of special forces, limited US Military engagement supply with support from private military contractors, which are effectively US Forces. However, I believe the most likely outcome is going to be IDF moving in and shutting this down. And I think the attacks that we've seen and the closure of the straight of the straight of Hormuz are going to be the principal causes, or I should say, justifications.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, I mean, without objection, my first reaction is on the declaration of war front. That's something that, according to Article 1, Congress does. And that is a speech act that invites all sorts of differences of legal rights. You know, they can create a blockade that helps them control the economy. So, you know, article to the executive, acting in a way that's addressing conflicts and hostilities is quite a different thing than a declaration of war. I think Trump has shown with Venezuela and with Iran previously that he's been pretty surgical and that he's willing to take isolated sort of discreet movements to address the issue. So I would, I would argue that

[Tim Pool]

Venezuela was done as a surgical strike because of the war with Iran, that we knew Iran was going to close the Strait of Hormuz. And for those that don't, I want to pull this up because I know there's a lot of people who, you know, they tune in because they want to watch general news and get service level stuff. And this can get particularly esoteric, as it were. Yeah, so let me, let me grab the, the map here and here's the Strait of Hormuz. Let me zoom out so you can see where it is. Here's Iran, here's, you know, Saudi Arabia. Then you've got, you know, Israel right here. So the Persian Gulf is here, you've got the Mediterranean. Okay. So European countries, Russia, Turkey, etcetera, Transport goods to the Suez Canal in the Red Sea, for which they've been threatened substantially by Houthi rebels in Yemen. Right here, they've actually been bombing cargo vessels and that's been disastrous. You also have here the Strait of Hormuz. Now, this is about, I believe it's a three mile wide stretch of water where 20% of global gas, oil and natural gas flows through. And Iran has basically said, we're going to shut that down.

[Libby Emmons]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

So Trump, he's probably sitting around with Du Bois and they're like, should we go in and just bomb the Ayatollah? And they probably said they're immediately gonna shut the Strait of Hormuz and we're gonna lose 20% of global oil trade and wipe out the global economy. So Trump says, what can we do? And they're like, well, yeah, look, I mean, Venezuela does have a massive chunk of that and we could easily go in and kn. Maduro. And so I believe the move against Maduro was actually a precursor to the strikes on Iran.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I think that's exactly right. In fact, and I was thinking about that today. And then you also had Trump saying that he was going to work to open the Strait of Hormuz and have escorts of the tankers going through there. Trump has been seizing tankers in the Caribbean Sea. So that's been really interesting. But this is what we have here is another WMD oil war, right? I mean, that's what's going on every time. Every time. And this is something that specifically MAGA voters were thinking they were voting for Trump against things like WMD oil wars. Trump had said we were going to get out of Afghanistan. Now Biden ended up doing that and did it wrong and the Democrats were against it anyway. But we have this situation. And I think also what you have is the, I think that Trump's inability to prevent the war in Ukraine to like get that stopped has been really rankling. And so he's going after as well, Russian allies, right? Like Venezuela, Iran. These are Russian Allies, you'll notice like China and Russia have not been coming in to Iran's aid. And this is a situation where Trump is going to go after all of the oil. Now I do think, just my last point, I do think that if it goes beyond the, you know, two weeks to stop the stress spread, I mean

[Tim Pool]

two weeks to stop the Iran, four

[Libby Emmons]

to five weeks that, that have been promised. I think that's going to be a concern because this was a promise made now. Four to five weeks. Right. I think this might be, that's all that MAGA has the stomach for.

[Tim Pool]

Real quick. I just must stress the sheer absurdity that is the neocons who hated Donald Trump and fought against him are screaming and cheering and the populist right is losing it, pissed off. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So just for accuracy, the straight is actually 21 miles at its, oh, 21 my bad, narrowest point. And I have, have a bit of a different perspective than, than Libby. I do think that this is actually the Venezuelan, the, the Iran op is actually more about China than it is about Russia. I think that it's about trying to limit China's ability to get oil. China gets, China takes like 80% of the oil from Iran. Like Iran's exports go basically directly from Iran to China because of sanctions and stuff like that. And China doesn't mind going around the sanctions. China is our greatest geopolitical rival right now. Russia's not really. I mean they show that they're a paper tiger. They can't even beat little Russia. So sure.

[Libby Emmons]

But I mean Trump wants that stopped. I mean he, he, he campaigned on stopping it within 24 hours and it's been over a year.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean he may want that stop, but I don't think that this actually has as much effect on Russia as it does have on China. And then as for like a long term, the administration made a bad move by even putting any kind of timeframe when they were starting out and they were saying, look, this is open ended, this is gonna be longer than just a strike. This is something that, that might take a while. That was probably the best messaging that they had at the time by, by talking about boots on the ground or talking about, you know, an end to it or whatever. Then they put a time limit in people's heads. They just recently started launching B52s which means they've taken out the, the vast majority of the threats. Because you put first B2s when there's, you put in B2s, the stealth bomber when there's serious threats, B ones Go in when the threats have kind of knocked down a little bit, then B52s can fly at 55,000ft, but those are easily taken out by air defense. So essentially the air defenses in Iran are gone now.

[Tim Pool]

So Iran is notorious for being mountainous with heavy air anti air defense and the U.S. u.S. Relies on air superiority. So this is, has been one of the principal issues with the US moving in on Iran for the whole time. So taking out those, those anti air surface to air missiles was the key to getting this job done. I just want to say I am of course as a millennial skeptical on these regime change wars for which this absolutely is. I'm going to piss off a lot of people when I say this, but I just love the masculinity of it. Let me explain. The reporting is that the Trump admin went to sit down. I mean that figuratively they had a meeting with the Iranian government who stated we have enough fissile material for 11 bombs. That's where we're starting the negotiation. And Trump's response was then I'm going to kill you. And again, I'm not suggesting I support the strikes or the invasion of Iran. I'm not a staunch anti Trump. I'm not, I don't believe I would call it intervention, skeptic, general anti intervention. And I think the issue is the potential for instability, knocking out a big player like Iran and the blowback we could get. That being said, there is just something satisfied in finally having a world leader who's going to like Obama saying, we're going to give as much money as you want, we want to buy you into the system. Just this is not the way you solve problems with ideological psychopaths. I am not suggesting that it means we should be bombing them. It's just there's just something visceral about Trump's response to the world stage. Now I'll give him a little, a little pushback. I wish he had that same decisiveness domestically, which he does not seem to show, especially with the riots and the protests and the Democratic Party sometimes, not always, but you know, there I said it is what it is. Hopefully this doesn't result in massive regional instability.

[Phil Labonte]

You're not talking about JDAMs on protesters, are you?

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm talking about Trump coming out and saying shut your mouth. I'm talking about Trump going to Democrats and, and when the Democrat says, well Trump, you know, the people have a right to protest. And in Minnesota, and Trump goes shut up as in close your mouth and stop talking. I wish he would do that. I wish he would do that.

[Libby Emmons]

Really. Don't you think that that would just backfire or do. They would shut their mouth. They would all just whine more.

[Tim Pool]

I just, I'm using that as a gag for the most part to say Trump has not been decisive on issues of these riots and the unrestricted. As much as I would like him to be.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Austin Rogers]

What more would you want him to do?

[Libby Emmons]

I would like. I would have liked to have seen.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man.

[Austin Rogers]

Because I think he has been 20, 22.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think so.

[Austin Rogers]

I think, I think Homan, I think they've, they've generally cracked down.

[Tim Pool]

Tom Homan said when he went to Minnesota that, you know, I'm paraphrasing. Of course we had problems. I wouldn't be here if that wasn't the case. And I think the, the actual issue is Trump doesn't prioritize that. Let's be completely real. I think that when all this minutes off is going. Going on, this is the real plan. Trump is, is working on a. Probably. How much money do you think it costs to launch this operation? I mean, a trillion dollars. Some insane amount of money. And so someone goes to him and says, Mr. President, there's a bunch of angry leftists throwing snowballs and getting into fights. He's like, I don't care. Deal with it. And so my principal issue is we get this super masculine, you know, like, I can throw some shade at Trump. He said, we knocked out their nuclear program in the 12 day war. Well, obviously the war was not 12 days. It is now ongoing. From that point on, history will look at it as one conflict.

[Phil Labonte]

Right now, the strikes are about one and a half billion dollars total for

[Tim Pool]

one and a half billion since the start. Yeah, it's a lot less than I thought.

[Phil Labonte]

A lot less than the Somalis have taken.

[Austin Rogers]

A lot less than it's really. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

My point is, you know, Trump's heavy priority has been an international engagement. And I feel like he defers a lot of the domestic stuff to his administration, his staff. And we have seen the far left basically getting away with murder. Literally, in many states, we see criminals being released. And what the American people who support Trump want is not an incursion into Iran, which is why the base is split. They want to see corrupt politicians be prosecuted, investigated otherwise.

[Libby Emmons]

And.

[Tim Pool]

And they ain't getting it. They're not. And again, I'm not saying it's been all bad. I say generally net positive in a lot of areas. But again, going in on full war with Iran Is, I mean this is a, if you're talking about political risk, Donald Trump being like, well, we could declare the Insurrection act, we could send in federal investigators to look into what's going on with, you know, Tim Waltz, the guy he hired, like a lot of various issues. We could do that. It's politically tumultuous, but I will bomb Iran. It's like, wow. Bombing Iran is tenfold more, it's like more difficult to do in terms of decision making than the domestic actions we wanna see to hold accountable corrupt politicians and far left extremists.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, he's running in line with what he did during the Summer of Love, right? During COVID he kind of left things to the states, the governors to manage their own things. And we saw that turned out, I mean there were literally cities being taken over. So he's been consistent in that. I think when he ran in 24, and I mean I voted for him in 16, 20 and 24. And my biggest thing was I got five kids, one is of draft age, two are approaching draft age. I don't want new war. And what he ran on mostly for 24, in my opinion, it was the economy. And whether we like it or not, America is a war economy. And doing these moves, making these maneuvers, this is how we get our economy back on track.

[Tim Pool]

I, you know, I agree. I think that the, if, if Trump pulls this off, people need to understand that US hegemonic power means you live comfortably. I just, these liberals and I can respect the libertarians in this regard because they'll, they know the facts and they'll make the arguments and say, I don't think it's worth it. I think the end results often. Like I respect their arguments, but the point is, the argument I have with libertarians on intervention is after the fact. The reality is we live very comfortably because we blow people up who don't get on the petrodollar or who threaten global trade routes, which is basically the deal we have these countries like, hey, you're gonna trade oil, it's gonna be clean, safe and you don't have to worry about it. Cuz we're gonna send our aircraft carriers around and police the seas. So when Iran is acting a fool, our customers are going, look, we use your currency for the oil that we're selling, but we can't even trade in this region without getting bombed. And Trump's like, okay, that's why it's so easy in my, this is honestly why it is easier in my opinion, for every administration to go to war. Because domestically, you can lose elections, you can lose power. Foreign intervention. For the most part, Americans don't care about foreign policy. Like, I know they polled people and they're mostly opposed to the strikes and Iran. But I gotta be honest, if I walk down the street and ask somebody, would you care more about, you know, the upcoming season, insert sport, or war with Iran? They'll go, who?

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah. People with an opinion on Iran should be forced to point it out on a map first before their opinion counts.

[Tim Pool]

I think that's true for everything.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, so anybody who comes in, like, I think it's wrong that we're attacking Iran and be like, and where is it?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Austin Rogers]

To your point earlier and to something that you said, I think Republicans. There's a strong contingent of Republicans that are rightly skeptical of forever wars, of oral wars, of, you know, foreign intervention. But I think Trump has demonstrated time and again in this administration that he is being surgical. He is not getting us embroiled in forever wars. He is being quite isolated and surgical in how he's treating this. And I don't know why we wouldn't trust him for this one.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's. Let's jump to the story from the Times of Israel. Iranian missile hits US Base at Al Udid. No casualties. Qatari Defense Ministry. We also have. I don't know where the other story is. There was a CIA. I thought I pulled up somewhere. CIA facility in Saudi Arabia. Oh, here it is. I got it. I got it. It was just in the wrong order. CIA station in Saudi capital hit in drone attack. The strikes in Riyadh come as Iran widens retaliation across the Middle east in the wake of US Israeli bombing campaign. So far, Trump's surgical strike has just been Venezuela. And, yeah, you know, great job. I don't think you can accomplish what you want to accomplish with Iran in the same way. And so I think it's a fair argument to say, you know, we had just referenced Senator Blumenthal, who said, based on the briefing that I got, I am more fearful than ever that we'll have boots on the ground. I defy anybody. Tell me how we remove the Islamic fundamentalist government without occupation.

[Austin Rogers]

We just removed a broad swath of their major political and military leaders through one isolated operation.

[Tim Pool]

And they. And they. And they voted in a new guy, and they've got.

[Libby Emmons]

And the new guy's appointed the son of the old guy.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, but I mean, there's also political upheaval going on, like, who knows how much staying power that's going to have.

[Tim Pool]

But is the end result that we, we end up with an ISIS like state of chaos and fervor? I mean, Libya is a island. I mean the state of Libya since NATO decided to go in and bomb the place and take out Gaddafi. Yeah. You know, Hillary Clinton said, we came, we saw, he died. Is that how we're gonna leave Iran is not Libya. It is not Afghanistan, it is not Iraq. You've got, what is it, 90 million people?

[Libby Emmons]

Something like that.

[Tim Pool]

It is going to, like, if you create a power vacuum in Iran, the most brutal guy is going to win again. So we can bomb their formal government and leadership, but you are going to get terrorist insurgent cells and they're gonna start spreading resources and weapons around like crazy and create massive instability. Unless someone goes in and occupies it. That seems to be the most probable outcome.

[Libby Emmons]

The only problem with that is that we don't have a very good track record of doing that.

[Tim Pool]

Of course, that's why everyone's concerned.

[Austin Rogers]

We don't have a very good track record of doing that with our president.

[Libby Emmons]

Neither does anybody. Like, nobody has a good track record of doing that.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, well, I mean, I think a lot of these things aren't like each other.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Austin Rogers]

So they don't have to be like

[Libby Emmons]

each other for us to not.

[Austin Rogers]

No, I understand, but I'm saying we

[Libby Emmons]

have a different foreign nation.

[Austin Rogers]

No, I told.

[Libby Emmons]

You know, and like not being able to figure out how we're supposed to lead them or get other people to lead them. Either.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, but I would say that's a thing.

[Libby Emmons]

Look at Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a disaster now.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. I would say the geopolitical landscape has fundamentally shifted during Trump's tenure. Look at the Abraham Accords, look at uae. Look at a lot of the allies that we have who are doing business with us and who are being helpful. I would say the landscape is entirely different. And these situations aren't like the other Libya. All the ones that you alluded to are not the same as what we're dealing with now. And we're dealing with a leader now, a president who actually has the stones, the fortitude to do the right thing.

[Libby Emmons]

So what's the right thing? Occupying a foreign country?

[Austin Rogers]

I'm not suggesting that at all. And I don't think that. I don't think the Trump administration is.

[Tim Pool]

But again, is it then bombing the leadership incessantly until they give up and stop appointing new leadership?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, that's essentially, essentially what they did in Venezuela was they took Maduro out and they said, okay, you're going to play ball with us now, but that's. And I know that they're not the same.

[Austin Rogers]

Here's, here's, my, here's my other thing, too. We have seen Trump act in the economy. We've seen him act in dozens of different ways and in the course of a year, be more effective than any president in my lifetime. Why wouldn't we trust him? Why wouldn't we trust Marco Rubio? Why wouldn't we trust the regime that we have in place who is proven unequivocally to be effective?

[Libby Emmons]

Phil makes this sort of super good point. They are, they are the government, and

[Tim Pool]

I think they're here to help. It's not a question of Trump or Ruby. It's a question of the effectiveness of regime change in general, which for the past 50 years, we have seen utter failure. On.

[Libby Emmons]

We saw, I mean, we failed in Korea to a large degree. We failed in Vietnam, you know, after the French failed.

[Tim Pool]

I'll give, I'll give some credit to South Korea, but we certainly haven't unified the Koreans, and that's largely due to the conflict with China and China's support for North Korea.

[Libby Emmons]

There's all, I mean, you know, you know, there's all kinds.

[Tim Pool]

I'll give them Japan and all of these real quick. Regime change in Japan after World War II, we turned those samurai into, like, ladyboy cat girls.

[Libby Emmons]

Like businessmen.

[Tim Pool]

No, not even, not even salarymen getting

[Libby Emmons]

drunk in the street.

[Tim Pool]

They don't have kids anymore. And they, they, they, they want. And South Korea and Japan both have an obsession with, like, American culture to it, too. No, I'll give Japan a little bit more than that.

[Austin Rogers]

It is really awesome.

[Tim Pool]

Korea is pretty creepy. I got to be honest. I'm allowed to say that as a Korean.

[Libby Emmons]

I've never been there. Have you been?

[Tim Pool]

It's amazing. I love the place. But they get, they all get plastic surgery to look like white people instead of just looking like Koreans.

[Libby Emmons]

They get that, like, Blairoplasty.

[Tim Pool]

They get, like, facial. Koreans have, like, a round face, as you can see. I got a little round face. They get their faces, like, shaved down and reshaped to look more like the European, like, chiseled square jaw or, like, you know, whatever. They get eyelid surgery. And it's, it's because when you are occupied by Americans who look a certain way and they control your culture and your development, you look to the wealthy, you look to the developed, and you, and you take those things on. So again, Japan like it. This is probably why they retained this ethos. Saying we are not going to look at Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan, Iraq again, as it's not possible, just that we got to try, try again. So I certainly would say that, you know, the way to describe it is that we have post intervention stress disorder due to the failures of the Bush administration's interventions in the Middle East. That doesn't mean it always fails, but I would say based on the track record of our current infrastructure, the probability of failure is likely high. Syria being another really great example. We are. The Obama intervention in Syria resulted in the expansion of ISIS and US Weapons falling into the hands of psychopaths who, like, basically defied all of the norms we expected from these Muslim insurgent groups. It used to be that during the early Iraq War era, you get kidnapped as a journalist or contractor in some Middle Eastern country by a Muslim. There were. I forgot what the word is, but there was something you could, you could invoke in Islam where it would require them to protect you until the conclusion of whatever it is they kidnapped you for, be it a ransom or some political reason. And an individual would be like, okay, I am basically your captor and I have to make sure nobody harms you. ISIS did not care at all. ISIS was like, we will literally chop off your head. We don't care. And they defied the norms we grew to expect because they were as. As.

[Libby Emmons]

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[Tim Pool]

Noam Chomsky said, to quote that guy, in the arena of violence, the most brutal guy wins. And in reference to the left, he said, that's not us. But the point is, you have order in Iran. We keep blowing up their leadership. Eventually you get brutal Islamic disorder, and that has a very high likelihood of looking like ISIS unless we get boots on the ground exactly like we did in Syria. And again, even Syria wasn't quickly resolved. I don't see a mathematical probability to having any kind of stability in the region. If the anger is that Iran is arming the Houthi rebels and Iraqi militia groups who are killing US troops constantly flattening the leadership in Iran, resulting in the IRGC just going rogue and forming Islamic factions is going to make that tenfold worse. Yeah, so the solution is then there need to be. Look, I'll put it like this. F, you know, fighter jets don't occupy street corners, people do. So you can bomb all day and night. And they, and the, and the, the factions there that believe what they believe and don't want to give up are going to adapt to it. Until you get someone on the street corner with a gun, you will not have control of these systems. The economics, be it disaster economics, war economies, if you want to put a stop, you need a grid of people stopping them.

[Austin Rogers]

So I guess my question is, do we not think that the Trump administration has counted that cost?

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I think they want to put boots on the ground.

[Austin Rogers]

No, I don't think they've said that. I don't think.

[Tim Pool]

Well, of course they can't.

[Austin Rogers]

I think, you know, that's why we have so many options on the table or whatever. But I mean, my sense of things is you have no go go. You have Marco Rubio, who has better foreign policy chops than anyone I know of.

[Tim Pool]

He is great.

[Austin Rogers]

I do have a very good administration who has proven themselves trustworthy and a million different ways. And, and, and you don't have. We don't have, we don't have. I don't think it's meaningless. Well, we don't have access to the classified briefings they have. We don't have access to a lot of the intel that they have that made them make that decision.

[Tim Pool]

And, and, and I would argue that you can trust a guy very much so, but it doesn't mean he's going to be good at baseball.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, but he's proven himself good at baseball.

[Tim Pool]

When?

[Austin Rogers]

Recently in Venezuela, for example.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So all the Democrats again ripely moaned

[Austin Rogers]

and said, this is going to lead

[Tim Pool]

to this mass, this is going to

[Austin Rogers]

embroil us in this massive war. And this. And nothing happened.

[Tim Pool]

I would actually argue that he has disproven this, and that is by the 12 Day War, which utterly failed in Iran. And we were assured in no uncertain terms the nuclear program had been, had been wiped out. And that was not true. And this war is the continuation of the 12 Day War. So I love calling the current strikes in Iran the 12 day war. Cause now it's what, the 365 plus 12 day war. So the point is this. We were told it was a surgical strike. The bombs went in, took it out. There were satellite videos showing what looked like Iran shuffling their facile material out of this base. And we were told they did not. It's not True. Don't worry about it. Now we're being told that when Trump goes to negotiate with Iran, they said outright, we have enough material for 11 bombs, and that's where we're starting negotiation. So, again, I say I love the masculinity of Trump's response to looking him in the eye and being like, then I'm going to kill you. And then he did. Okay. Not that the strikes are good, but it is like you need the balls. That being said, as much as I can be like, I love the manliness of it, it is fair to say we are not talking about a question of trust or capability. We're talking about a question of strategy and math. And fighter jets don't occupy street corners. If the goal is to remove their ability to fight, you can keep bombing them. But we saw what happened with Syria already, so we can. So, again, I'm looking at a math problem. Trump can be the best in the world at these math problems, but if the solution still requires physical occupation, my assumption is the United States fully expects there needs to be an occupation of Iran, and they're going to pull off the same BS they did with Ukraine by saying, US Troops aren't in Ukraine. It's a coalition of volunteers that we're paying.

[Austin Rogers]

So I would say that I think Trump is also looking at a math problem himself. And I would say people talk about him playing 4D chess, 5D chess, all the time, in 100 different ways. Earlier, we alluded to China, and I think certainly he has the bigger picture in mind. He is playing 4D chess. I think he's counted the cost. I think he is done the mathematics. And I think they have what it takes to get this across the finish line, isolated and surgical way.

[Tim Pool]

I disagree. I think they concluded the only way we get this done is by total regime change. That there's been a. I would describe it. I want to be careful with this, but there's been a propagandistic effort to rally public support for the end of the Iranian government. We've been getting just slammed by these stories of the killing of civilians and things like this, which I would argue is probably largely true, but of course going to be exaggerated, especially by Israel, who wants the Iranian government removed. I also have no problem saying the Ayatollah was a very bad person and the Iranian government is absolutely garbage and it is 100% moral to have removed them. I think that's true. The issue, however, is it may be morally good that the Iranian government is not there anymore and was removed the question is, is it going to create, is going to be a Pyrrhic victory? Is the calculation Trump made that in order to effectively end this government, you need people? I do not see, based on history and everything we've seen thus far, it is possible to engage in a full scale operation of this size without people. With a very easy example being Ukraine. They told us there are no U.S. troops on the ground. Well, there's Special Forces and U.S. intelligence, and we are giving all of our weapons and telling them where to point them and where to shoot them. And the people we're talking to are American veterans that are just privately, you know, hired and paid by the US Government. It's like, we get it. So I think it's very likely that Israel is going to have the bulk of the forces that go into Iran. I think Trump is going to make some argument about how there are no boots on the ground. And then they're going to, they're going to whisper like, but the volunteers are there. And then what you do is instead of having the US military formally, you go to a bunch of PMCs and say, calling the boys, we're going to pay them a salary and we're going to send them in and we're going to have 100,000 boots on the ground. Unofficially, of course, not the United States. And sorry, just one more thing for that matter. I really do think there's a strong probability that Trump literally orders US troops to go into Iran.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm fine with PMCs. A lot of these operators actually like what they do and like getting paid for it. What I don't want to do is start the meat grinder again and send in 10,000 boys who just finished basic. I think that is my concern. But PMC's all for it.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm going to work. I think when we say boots on the ground, the American people are thinking about big army stuff. They're thinking about tanks, they're thinking about large US Forces. There's definitely CIA on the ground. The administration's already admitted it. There might end up being Special Forces, Green Berets going in to try and train the, the YPG or the Kurdish

[Tim Pool]

forces, but it's probably already there. You know what I mean? Like, we just, we just blew up their palace and killed like all of their top government.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure.

[Tim Pool]

You get intel through and I'll put like this, if it's not an American who went there, it's an Iranian who's operating for the US Government, I will say, go ahead.

[Austin Rogers]

No, I was just going to say you've rightly identified a power vacuum, but I think the response from a lot of Iranian people being nothing short of jubilation signifies.

[Tim Pool]

I don't believe it.

[Austin Rogers]

I believe it. I've. You've seen videos.

[Tim Pool]

Sure. And I've seen videos of people celebrating the attempted assassination on Trump and the. Celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure.

[Austin Rogers]

I'm saying is, there's certainly appetite there for some different form and mode of government beyond Islamism.

[Tim Pool]

If China launched a strike and blew up the White House, they would be running videos all across China of Americans celebrating, and they'd say, see, we liberated them.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, I just, I. I've seen the response in both the US and in Iran.

[Tim Pool]

The response in the US Is going to be obvious. These are people who fled Iran.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. Like it's government, but.

[Tim Pool]

And I believe they're on again. They're still. I agree with.

[Austin Rogers]

I think a lot of the folks in Iran, by the way, still have family back in Iran, or. I mean, sorry, a lot of the folks, Iranian folks in the US have family back. I'm telling you, there's appetite for a different regime, a different.

[Tim Pool]

And again, the rebuttal is the same appetite exists nearly half the population in the United States. Yeah. You know, Trump won 49.5% of the vote and Kamala got like 47 or something like this. So, again, when you start seeing all of these mass protests, I guarantee you, I mean, this is true. North Korea, China, Russia are rolling those videos out in their media being like, the American people hate their government and want it overthrown, and Trump just killed two civilians.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, but again, these things aren't alone alike. Like, we have a foundation of government based on separation of powers, based on French philosophy, based on enlightenment. They have a structure of government, government that is based on radical Islamic terrorism.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. And the argument there is we all agree we are correct and we have a better form of government. My point is to look at a video of any amount of people protesting and determine that they, the people of Iran, support their government being toppled. I would say, well, a percentage of them probably do. Just like a large percentage of the people in the United States would celebrate Trump being killed all the same. Yeah, but it's not a justification for why we go in and blow up their government.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, but what I'm saying is, real quick, the framework of government they had there is much more fragile than the framework that we have here. If. If, God forbid, something happened to a president here. We have the framework in place to. To replace.

[Tim Pool]

So do they they had their assembly of experts and then Israel bombed them.

[Austin Rogers]

No, I don't think they have the same structure.

[Tim Pool]

I didn't say they're the same. They have their structure to replace their leader, which they've just done.

[Austin Rogers]

And I think that we are going to find out here in the near future their structure is much weaker and more fragile than ours.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I think that's obvious considering we're the United States.

[Austin Rogers]

Correct. That's what I'm saying is like, none

[Tim Pool]

of that morally justifies the US like to say that because a portion of a. Of a country's people don't like their government is not a justification of executing their leader.

[Austin Rogers]

Moral justification would be that they have Americans bloods, blood on their hands.

[Adam Johnson]

Agreed.

[Austin Rogers]

A moral justification would be they are racing to get nuclear arms. Totally agree. And moral justification would be they adhere to a form of Islam that is eschatological, apocalyptic, wants to kill the west, wants to kill the United States of America. That is a vision of moral righteousness. And they're acting on that moral righteousness.

[Tim Pool]

And in which case, if 100% of the population supported the government, it would not change the morality of what we have done.

[Austin Rogers]

Sorry, I don't.

[Tim Pool]

If 100% of the Iranian people were in support of the Ayatollah, it would not change the morality of our actions in blowing them up.

[Austin Rogers]

Sure.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Austin Rogers]

And I think we'll be morally righteous.

[Tim Pool]

My point is whether or not any amount of people in Iran are for or against the government does not matter. The question that I think is posed largely, certainly there's gonna be a bunch of leftists who are like, it was wrong to kill a leader in this way. I'm like, the Ayatollah was a very, very bad guy. The bigger issue is not military action against evil people. The bigger question is, is this a Pyrrhic victory which results in mass destabilization in the region and results in more death, more killing, more rape. And if our goal ultimately is now, first and foremost, I get it, they can't have a nuclear bomb. And they come to the negotiating table claiming that they still have the material to do it. And you know why I believe this? I know a lot of people are gonna say, you actually think they really said that. You actually think Donald Trump would come out and admit he up when the 12 Day War was supposed to wipe out their materials and it did not work. I don't think Trump decided to just arbitrarily go in and mount this massive assault on Iran. No, I think the reality is the 12 day war failed, and now the Trump administration has to admit they failed and their assurances were incorrect. And now the only outcome was we're going to have to take them out and start taking out their capabilities.

[Austin Rogers]

Why would we make the assumption that it failed?

[Tim Pool]

Like, because they literally said Iran came to the negotiating table with Trump saying, we have enough nuclear material for 11 bombs after the 12 day war, we were assured by the Trump administration and Trump, they. They wiped out their nuclear capabilities. They did not.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. I mean, I think puffery happens in any sort of negotiation, but if that's.

[Tim Pool]

If we didn't fail.

[Austin Rogers]

Two different questions.

[Tim Pool]

If we didn't fail, then why are we attacking Iran? They have a nuclear program anymore, right? What's the point?

[Austin Rogers]

They're racing to develop a nuclear program again.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but they're going to be there, going to be 20, 30 years away

[Austin Rogers]

about making a war. He's about making a deal, and he was trying to make a deal, and they were filibustering him. They were.

[Tim Pool]

Is your argument that the 12 Day War was a success? We set their nuclear program back decades, as we were told, meaning they're going to be at least 20 years on the low end away from ever getting close to this. And then because they wouldn't agree to it, Trump decided to kill them all.

[Austin Rogers]

No, my point is they were racing to develop a nuclear program.

[Tim Pool]

They were decades away.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So we could have waited.

[Austin Rogers]

You don't have to wait for somebody to punch you before you.

[Tim Pool]

20 years. We could have waited to see how they start developing.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. But you have to imagine they are also interacting with China. They're also interacting with all sorts of our enemies. And they are, I think, the integrated sort of system. And obviously, I said it earlier, I think he has China in mind. I think he has Russia. I think he has broader interests in mind that extend beyond Iran.

[Tim Pool]

I think the real issue.

[Austin Rogers]

A lot of oil refining happen. I think a lot of. I mean, indeed.

[Tim Pool]

And I think the real issue was already laid out by Rubio when he said Israel was planning on staging an attack against Iran. And we knew this would result in strikes against U.S. personnel and, you know, our bases. So. And we didn't want to take a defensive posture, so we decided to go in on the attack. Trump, of course, walked it back, but I don't buy it for a second. I think Rubio just had the quiet part loud. Israel has been begging for this war, and the US And Trump was. They were trying to avoid it. When Israel said, we're going in Rubio was like, well, we have no choice. And he was like, if we did not join them and it resulted in strikes against U.S. personnel, we'd have more dead. And then we have to go to hearings to explain why we didn't react properly. Indeed, we went to war not because of the nuclear program or whatever it may be. It seems the most probable reason is because Israel has wanted to go to war with Iran for a long time and told the U.S. we will do it with or without you. And the US Response was, we are going to get bombed like crazy if Israel does this. We better just stand alongside them and make sure we take out as much Iranian infrastructure as we can before that happens.

[Adam Johnson]

Everybody does not want a Benghazi on his hand. He's running for 28, probably the front runner if I had to guess. I think my greater concern with all of this is not so much what's going on in Iran, it's what's going to happen stateside. How many sleeper cells are here? How many attacks we're going to see? Because if the general sentiment of the US population is we don't want a

[Tim Pool]

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[Adam Johnson]

War of Everwar Is it beyond the CIA to maybe orchestrate a handful of things to encourage people to be on board with a 20 year war with Iran?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, let's, Let me, let me, let me pull up this story here. This is, we're going to pull up this from Fox News. We got this story. Austin Mass shooting timeline traces, suspects rap sheet as terror link probed. I don't know how to pronounce this guy's name. Indiaga Diagny he killed two people outside of Buford's backyard beer garden while wearing a Property of a Lost sweatshirt. Now, my general understanding is, is this is still believed to be Islamic terror, largely motivated by order, retaliation to the war in Iran.

[Adam Johnson]

It's really hard to tell why he's wearing a shirt that says Property of Allah.

[Austin Rogers]

Well, he had a Kran in his car.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, indeed. And again, I'm trying to be careful because I don't want to come out and just be like, it's true. I don't care what they say, like, they're investigating it. But it seems the most plausible reason and the fear now is that we have Democrats not wanting to fund DHS at a time when we know there are people here legally and illegally who want to kill us. We had the attack in D.C. on the West Virginia National Guard already. We have this shooting. And people. You can watch the video of this. Have you. Have you guys seen the footage of the shooting?

[Austin Rogers]

I have seen some of it.

[Phil Labonte]

Not there.

[Tim Pool]

Somebody. You know what, man? There's a woman screaming something like, why are you filming this? And with all due respect to the person who filmed, I commend you for doing so because I know it's difficult with the horrific sight. You see the blood coming out of these people as they're desperately performing CPR trying to keep them alive. But people need to see it. I'm sorry, don't let your kids see it. I get that. People need to understand what these people are going and willing to do. And so when you have a video showing these people laying on the ground dying because Islamic terror is in this country and they want to kill. And Secretary Noemi told me in an interview explicitly, these people are here and we are concerned because we have to track them down. And now the Democrats are saying, well, we don't want to fund DHS because we want to protect illegal immigrants, then expect more of this. And this has got everybody freaked out that I've been talking to because it could be anywhere. And Austin, downtown. That's just why they're of all places,

[Libby Emmons]

6 a lot of people. But this guy was a legal immigrant. He came in legally under Clinton. He was naturalized citizen over under Obama, and here he is. So does that give credence to the notion that we need to put a stop to legal immigration as well as

[Phil Labonte]

if we needed more?

[Adam Johnson]

But yes, naturalize them.

[Austin Rogers]

Yes. Something we can agree on.

[Tim Pool]

They're talking about re vetting all these Afghan migrants.

[Phil Labonte]

100%, all of them.

[Tim Pool]

There's a Benjamin, Carl Benjamin asked A really great question on X. It's a really simple way to put it. He just said, I'm paraphrasing here, but with the Islamic migration into Great Britain, the question is, how does it benefit the people of. Of the United Kingdom? In what way should they welcome these people in? For what benefit do they get? The answer is none. There isn't one. And so if that's the case, then why do it? And so now if you have a country, United States, that has gone to war and wants to go to war repeatedly with Islamic nations, probably a bad idea to invite militant ideologues into your country. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, look, we talk about, you know, cultures that are incompatible with ours, and we should make sure that if we're going to allow people into the United States, they need to be from cultures that actually mesh well with the United States. Like, we shouldn't just be like, anyone from around the world can come here with no vetting or what have you. If you can get to our shores, we'll let you in. We should have very strict requirements about who is and isn't let in to become a citizen.

[Tim Pool]

That'd be a funny, like, freedom tunes cartoon. A guy comes from the country of Rapeland and they're like, tell me about your country. It's like, in our country, our entire national pastime and culture is just essay. And then they're like, huh, welcome in. Yeah, well, Republicans are like, what?

[Libby Emmons]

That's just what happened in Afghanistan, right? I mean, the Taliban legalized domestic violence, and they legalized beating your wife and sexual violence against children.

[Tim Pool]

But didn't they ban child marriage, something like this? They did, yeah. What happened was the Taliban said, so there's a practice of, like, raping kids. And Taliban's like, you can't do that. And so when the U. S. Went in to remove the Taliban, the people who were fighting against the Taliban were pro pedophilia. And so US Troops were ordered not to report it because these were people fighting for us against them.

[Libby Emmons]

Well. And now it's legal to sexually assault your children.

[Tim Pool]

Are you sure? Children. I know, I know. The wife. They're like, your wife is your.

[Libby Emmons]

I. Yeah, I dug in.

[Tim Pool]

I'm pretty sure the Taliban was like, you can't. You can't sexual assault kids.

[Libby Emmons]

You can. You can sexually assault your own children because it's a form of punishment.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, well, I mean, both.

[Tim Pool]

Both the Taliban and whatever the other factions were were all bad.

[Libby Emmons]

They're all.

[Phil Labonte]

They're all bad, which is why they shouldn't be allowed into the United States. Like, they should not be allowed.

[Libby Emmons]

That's what we're looking at in Iran too. I mean, everybody's bad, right? And so once you wipe out everybody, and Trump even said that they had wiped out the people who he thought would be, you know, good next leaders. Now we have a situation where how many, how many more people are they gonna wipe out before they find like, you know, that guy who was waiting, like the, the postal inspector. Well, I mean, like, next in line or whatever. The point is, you know what I mean?

[Phil Labonte]

The point isn't about, like, trying to find the good guy. The point is to make the people understand, look, this is going to keep happening until you play ball with the

[Austin Rogers]

United States and go ahead, go ahead. And every president since, you know, back to Obama and before had wanted to take out Khomeini. Like, it, you know, it's something that everyone, everyone wanted to do and then just didn't have the capability up until now to do.

[Phil Labonte]

And that's, I mean, that's what, and that's what happened in, you know, in Venezuela. Like, they, they wrapped up Maduro and they told the, the vice president, look, you need to play ball. And I mean, obviously the jury's still out on, on how far that's gonna go, how, how, how well they're gonna work with the United States and stuff, but all indications are that they're like, okay, yeah, we'll go ahead and do this. I read a story about the vice president, that we're not the vice president, but the person that won the Nobel Peace Prize, that she was supposed to be the president, that Maduro stole the election. She was going back and they were going to organize new elections, I think in the fall. And I mean, again, if it works out, then it seems like a, a method worth trying. Now, obviously, like I said, Iran is not the same place as Venezuela. The culture is different. But if the, if the Trump administration's goal is all right, we're going to get you to the table and find someone that actually wants to work with us, and we're going to use violence to do it. I mean, it's, it's, it's not something that I'm exact, that I, that I can say that I endorse, but it's better than having a 20 year quagmire.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. And it's kind of mess around.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, they just decided that the, the Crown prince, what's his name, Pahlavi or whatever, he's going to be speaking at CPAC in Dallas in just A couple of weeks.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

You know.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, I think, I think it's an effort to bring them to the negotiating table and say, hey, you've already found out. You know, mess around and find out, like, if you don't come to the negotiating table and play ball, we mean business. He's shown he means business, and I think he's going to get a lot of success out of this.

[Libby Emmons]

I think that, I think the thing is, unless you destroy the entire irgc, you're going to have this problem not only continue in Iran, but in the region. I mean, if it wasn't for the Iranian revolution, you wouldn't have the spread of extremist Islam in the Middle east as it stands right now.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And I think that's part of the calculation. If they, if, if they actually can get Iran to stop funding Hamas, stop funding Hezbollah, stop giving weapons and arms to the Houthis, stop. You know, I think it was the Houthis that were going after Saudi Arabia as well.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

There were Saudis.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

This is Yemen. Yeah, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So, like, if they can get that to stop, I think the, the region will look at this as a, as a, an overall good thing. And again, I don't know that it's going to work. I'm not saying that I'm for the, the, the attacks, but at the same time, if they can get those kind of behaviors to stop the Iranian regime, that's something that the whole Middle east is going to say. Well, this is good, because right now the whole Middle east essentially is, is against Iran. Yeah, everybody, they all signed on to the Abraham Accords. You were a Middle east that was moving towards a peaceful situation with, with Israel. They were recognizing Israel. It was looking like things were going to go the way that the west wants. And the only stopping, you know, the stopping force was Iran. If they can fix it, if they can straighten that problem out by a use of force, the whole Middle east is going to say, well, this is actually better than it was before.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. And as I said at the outset, nobody's in favor of a forever war. Nobody's in favor of aggressive sort of gratuitous foreign intervention. But they've said it's going to be a discreet four to five week operation. And by the way, that was said before the midterms. So, you know, I think we take them at their word and just see how they perform.

[Tim Pool]

Can we just pull this map real quick and just talk about, you know, you got the Strait of Hormuz right here, and here's Dubai. And look at this. Look at these goofy little palm tree islands they built. Yeah, can't we just do more of that? You know, like it's, it's like a party. Everyone's having a good time.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, people, they can't do more of that because of Iran.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I'm saying. This is my point. I'm like, can't we just, like, can't Iran just stop, knock it off, so we can have these little sand islands to, you know, go swimming in?

[Austin Rogers]

Well, now they can.

[Tim Pool]

Now they can.

[Austin Rogers]

Not now, not now, you know, but

[Phil Labonte]

in due course, hopefully that. Yeah, you know, again, I'm not, I'm not in favor of ground invasion. I do think that it's a little early to be talking about ground invasion. We're on day, what, three of the actual airstrikes and you haven't seen any kind of significant movement of troops or logistics. And you don't see a ground invasion. You're not going to see a soldier going into Iran unless there's a Burger King in a truck behind them. There's always a massive movement of troops. There was a massive movement of troops. Troops signaling the invasion of Iran. I'm sorry, of Iraq. There was a massive movement of troops into Afghanistan. People will know if that's something that's actually starting to happen. And it's probably a little early to actually be talking about it, so.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, what do we think of what Trump said on his election night victory when he said, I'm not going to start wars, I'm going to stop wars?

[Austin Rogers]

I think.

[Libby Emmons]

Do we think that.

[Austin Rogers]

Right?

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, do you think he started this war?

[Austin Rogers]

No, I think a reasonable articulation would be it was preventative. I mean, at least.

[Libby Emmons]

So it was a prevented. It was starting a war in a preventative way. I'm just curious about how we started

[Austin Rogers]

one to stop one.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm curious how we, I mean, again, Trump said about not starting wars with him just right.

[Austin Rogers]

Well, we also keep using the word war. Again, I would probably articulate it more in terms of conflict, in terms of,

[Tim Pool]

I'm pretty sure, military operation. But other countries leader, it's war.

[Austin Rogers]

No, war is a term of art. In war, the phrase matters. As I said.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm sorry. When you blow up your, another country's leader and then bombard their country and they fire back, you're at war.

[Adam Johnson]

So it's a bully.

[Austin Rogers]

Constitutionally speaking, that's not right.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm gonna beat you up in the schoolyard, 3pm I'm gonna get you.

[Tim Pool]

It's not a fight.

[Adam Johnson]

You find him at 10 o' clock in the morning in the bathroom taking a piss at the urinal and you kick him in the back of the head. You get ahead of it is what you do. You don't wait for it.

[Tim Pool]

No. To be fair, point. That's not a fight.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, it's not.

[Tim Pool]

Fight never happens. That's what I'm getting at.

[Austin Rogers]

And again I get him in the back of. I was a little eggheaded.

[Tim Pool]

High kick into the urinal too.

[Adam Johnson]

You got to finish it.

[Libby Emmons]

That's like losing teeth.

[Austin Rogers]

And again, I was a little eggheaded at the outset when I was talking about Article 1, Article 2. But declarations of war carry legal significance. That authorizes additional action by.

[Tim Pool]

Would you. Would you describe what's going on between Iran and the United States as an armed conflict?

[Austin Rogers]

I would call it a conflict. I would call it a hostility. I'd call it population.

[Tim Pool]

That's an armed conflict.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. Military operation.

[Tim Pool]

That is the definition of war.

[Austin Rogers]

I don't think it is.

[Tim Pool]

It literally is in the Oxford Dictionary. War is a state of armed conflict between nations.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, but as an independent, we moved

[Libby Emmons]

our biggest aircraft carrier over there. We moved like a whole fleet.

[Tim Pool]

We killed him.

[Libby Emmons]

We have like 40,000 miles waiting.

[Austin Rogers]

I understand. I think I am kind of putting on my attorney hat. And there are a lot of legal terms of art that carry certain weight.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. And to the average person around the world, the US started a war with Iran.

[Austin Rogers]

If you want to put it colloquially, you can say that. But I would say that it's a conflict, it's a hostility, it is a military.

[Tim Pool]

And the definition in the dictionary of what a war is is a state of armed conflict between nations.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, I think it's protracted. I think as you stated, there's not been a declaration of war.

[Tim Pool]

See, is it going to be like whoever is in power and needs to massage the truth will justify why man doesn't mean male, it means something else. And then the like pro war side is. No, no, no. War is a legal term of art. And no, this is just a.

[Austin Rogers]

Listen.

[Tim Pool]

Aggressive negotiation.

[Austin Rogers]

No, listen, I think the beginning of wisdom is calling a thing by its proper name, war. I think boots on the ground, this massive influx of troops that he was describing, that is war. I think a protracted 10 year period of time, the 30 years war. I think that's war.

[Tim Pool]

I think so Cyber war doesn't exist.

[Austin Rogers]

I think discrete attacks that are prophylactic in nature is not a war. So cyber war doesn't help out in history.

[Tim Pool]

Cyber war is not a real thing.

[Austin Rogers]

I'm not saying cyber war is not a real thing at all. I'm saying that I don't think that we can fairly characterize this as a war.

[Tim Pool]

So the largest buildup of US naval forces in what, 20 plus years or ever in the Gulf, launching missiles and blowing up bases as well as their palace is not war.

[Austin Rogers]

Again, I think we're getting into semantics. I think as a legal term of art, no, I would not call it war.

[Tim Pool]

I got. I got to be honest, bro, like, do you really think anyone believes what you are saying or that you believe it?

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

No, they don't.

[Austin Rogers]

Again, I. We are talking about two different realities. There's a colloquial way of describing war,

[Tim Pool]

which is like 99.

[Austin Rogers]

There's a legal way of describing war where now the President can seize private companies and force them to operate the economy in a certain way. He can do blockades and certain implications on maritime law. So let's just do a totally different reality. And so I'm saying, according to common

[Tim Pool]

parlance, would you agree then, we're at war with Iran?

[Austin Rogers]

I would say we're in a conflict. I would say we're.

[Tim Pool]

According to common parlance, would you say we're at war with Iran?

[Austin Rogers]

No, I think it is a narrow.

[Tim Pool]

Literally no human being anywhere is going to agree with you and you know it. Oh, no.

[Phil Labonte]

There's 434 people in Washington D.C. he is speaking Congressman.

[Tim Pool]

That's not true. Thomas Massie and roy. Okay, so 433.

[Austin Rogers]

It goes back to the fight versus the punch thing versus the I think we delivered formidable punch.

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[Austin Rogers]

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[Adam Johnson]

we can't call it war until we have proper time to invest.

[Austin Rogers]

So look, look, the fight on the, on the school ground, you and I square up. We're throwing fisticuffs, you know, mama jokes back and forth, etc. That is. That is war. I think so.

[Tim Pool]

They're bombing our bases we're bombing their example.

[Austin Rogers]

Seeing you in a urinal and punching you, that's a punch. It's not a fight.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so if. If I'm at a urinal and he punched me in the back of the head and I turn around and punch him in the gut, are we fighting?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, especially.

[Tim Pool]

Are we fighting?

[Austin Rogers]

I wouldn't call that a fight unless there's a protracted brawl.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, like, so he punches me in the back of the head, I bang my head in the air, and I'll fall down. I get up, I go, you son of a. I punch him in the face, he falls down, he gets up, kicks me in the nuts, then I punch him in the stomach. Are we fighting yet?

[Austin Rogers]

Look, are we fighting? I have to explain again, Trump has used the word war. Other people. Other. Other people has used. Have used the word, I think, colloquially. We were talking about. You're talking about war, whatever.

[Tim Pool]

But are you.

[Austin Rogers]

But my mind cannot get out of the legal mentality and the legal implications of declaring war. And that's why I think it's an important distinction.

[Tim Pool]

And so what you're really saying is you can't say it, not because it's not true, but because of legal ramifications against you.

[Austin Rogers]

No, not legal ramifications against me. Legal ramifications that attach to the executive, to Congress, to international law, to all sorts of things that are. Trump started a war calculus.

[Libby Emmons]

Maybe it's a war with a silent z. Wzar.

[Austin Rogers]

Wizor.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, yeah, silency.

[Austin Rogers]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

It's not.

[Austin Rogers]

It's not just casual street. I'm not trying to, like, evade the question. I think it's important to distinguish it.

[Tim Pool]

It.

[Austin Rogers]

At least from a legal perspective.

[Tim Pool]

I think.

[Austin Rogers]

I think if this lasts. I think if this lasts for several months, I would say you could fairly characterize it as such.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, look, I don't know.

[Austin Rogers]

I mean, it's. Am I. Am I crazy?

[Adam Johnson]

Maybe?

[Phil Labonte]

No, you're just trying to get into Congress.

[Tim Pool]

So.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, actually, yes, you are crazy, because that seems totally insane to me. I don't think that. I don't think there are very many people that would say that it's not a war. I do think it's fair to say, look, these are strikes, right? They're. They're. They're. They're carrying out airstrikes because that's technically what they're doing. But yeah, I mean, people are gonna. People are just gonna be like, look, it's a war, man. You know, let's.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this next story because we got big, big news. The results are starting to come in in Texas and Cornyn is beating Ken Paxton.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I didn't.

[Libby Emmons]

Sort of a surprise, isn't it?

[Tim Pool]

So right now we're looking at 42% reporting. So we will see. Cornyn, of course, he's got Dallas, he's got Houston. Austin is actually not, not reporting just yet. We'll see. I'm assuming it's going to go corny, but you know, we'll see. It could turn around. We've not got any declaration just yet on how it's going to play out. Jasmine Crockett is getting crushed. She's down some 75, 76,000 votes. She's down by about. We're looking at 8 points, 8.3 points so far, 39% reporting. I'm going to go ahead and say this. I'm on her side and she should along with the fcc sue cbs, Paramount and Stephen Colbert because they violated fcc. Oh, more reporting just came in. They invited violated FCC regulation rules in order to give James Talarico a major boost and they knew they were faking it. Colbert knew he was not prohibited from having on taller ego's opponent Jasmine Crockett and Ahmad Hasan. He knew this and he wanted to frame it as though Trump stopped him from having him on to make it seem like this guy was the guaranteed front runner against the Republican and that Jasmine Crockett didn't exist. As much as I don't like Jasmine Crockett and I do think Teloco is better in a lot of ways, it doesn't matter. That was scumbag BS and Colbert is a scumbag who hoaxed people to cheat in an election.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, but you know why he did it? It's because he didn't think think Crockett could win because he thinks everyone in Texas is racist.

[Tim Pool]

The idea was because he's Delarico is a left leaning self reported Christian and that he's going to be able to this. It's not just him, it's the Democrats.

[Libby Emmons]

It's all about electability and it's this fake concept because as we've seen, electability doesn't mean anything. People are electable if their constituents want them and that's really it.

[Tim Pool]

Colbert is a scumbag.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes, that is a guy like Ahmad Hasan get 10,000 votes in Texas because

[Phil Labonte]

there's a hard work. There's a significant growing.

[Libby Emmons]

There's like a, there's a massive Muslim population segment.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's growing.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that's they voted to fund the building of a bunch of mosques.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And. And like a whole. A whole town that they were calling. What was it, like, Epic City or something?

[Phil Labonte]

Something like that.

[Libby Emmons]

Because they got in trouble when it had an Islamic name, so they changed it.

[Tim Pool]

As of. As of right now. Sorry, just. Tony Gonzalez is beating BRANDON Herrera with 4% reporting. So I'm not super worried about it. The prediction markets have Herrera to win if Tony Gonzalez wins. I'm sorry, I am going to laugh, a hearty laugh after that whole scandal

[Libby Emmons]

because his mistress set herself on fire.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man.

[Adam Johnson]

And, you know, a celebration song is actually the rupus on fire.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. You're joking.

[Adam Johnson]

I am joking.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, my God. I can't tell sometimes because it's believable. I just want to say, this whole Tony Gonzalez thing, everyone knew, and it was kept under wraps by the Democrats and Republicans. So for those who don't know the story, Tony Gonzalez reportedly had an affair with a staffer who was desperately in love with him. And she was. I don't know if the full story was, but she was like, you know, if you leave me, I'll take my own life, or something like this. Doused herself in fuel or something and then accidentally immolated herself. But apparently, the beltway of dc, they all knew it the whole time.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep. So this also happened in Uvalde County. They've not released any of the details that the investigation is still ongoing. And it's just interesting. It was in Uvalde.

[Phil Labonte]

Uvalde, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

Unreal. They need a whole new police force there.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I'm gonna say this.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm gonna say they acquitted the two officers who were.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, they got off.

[Tim Pool]

God, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna.

[Libby Emmons]

They got off. They stood outside being like, don't go rescue your own children as they're being butchered.

[Adam Johnson]

Oh, they were playing Candy Crush. They're on a high score.

[Tim Pool]

The story of Tony Gonzalez is known by everyone in Congress. Everyone knows it. Everyone knows it. And for whatever reason they are, they have been keeping their mouths shut. I think the Republicans. I very much dislike the Republican Party, and I want Brandon Herrera to win. But, you know, the Republican establishment definitely does not want Brandon Herrera in. They want people they can control. And so my assumption is the Democrats were like, this is not the kind of play we want to make, which could also bring in a hardliner like Herrera. Even the Democrats would rather have Tony Gonzalez. And then the Republicans are like, we want a guy who's going to jump when we say jump. So everybody. Shh.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

I was shocked when Trump endorsed Gonzalez. And from what I understand, Trump does not actually endorse people. It's a pay to play system. The people in charge of doing the endorsements basically get backdoor deals, and then you get a Trump endorsement. But I was shocked after all of this.

[Libby Emmons]

I thought it was because he, like, values his endorsement and his reputation with the GOP voters, and that's why he didn't endorse. Yeah, I know that's a. It's a little Pollyanna. Ish, for sure, but. And that was why he wasn't going to endorse in the GOP Senate primary. Yeah. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, you think it's a

[Libby Emmons]

little pay to play. A little pay to play.

[Adam Johnson]

I can. I can tell you.

[Libby Emmons]

A little extra bitcoin.

[Adam Johnson]

It is.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, like, last time, Brandon lost by 400 votes.

[Adam Johnson]

400. You know, district that had a turnout that typically does not turn out, I think was over 90 turnouts. They actually. There's a whole thing. I won't get into it here, but.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, I, I, obviously, I can't see the future, but I would hope that. But considering he lost by 400 last time and this time his opponent is embroiled in a scandal, that's pretty embroiled.

[Tim Pool]

Guys. Call she. Is Call she. Prediction markets calling it for Talarico already. Nice. So, I, I don't. Yeah, we only got 40% reporting. This is what's really interesting to see if they're going to be right about this. It's 99%, according to Kalshee's Prediction Market, that Talarico is going to win. Jasmine Crockett's at less than 1%. And you were saying before, like, they eliminated her congressional seat, so she. Gone.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, yeah, they got rid of that seat. It was the redistricting. It was the Texas redistricting, redistricting that caused the California redistricting that caused the New York redistricting that caused it to go to the Supreme Court, and Nicole Malietakis gets to keep that GOP seat.

[Tim Pool]

So if I. So I got here the Texas 23 Republican nominee, and we can see Brandon Herrera at 93%, weirdly, Tony Gonzalez at 16%. Those numbers don't add up. That's. It's. It's interesting how that sometimes happens. I don't know what the actual rules are, why that's happening, but I'm. I know a lot of people are gonna get mad at me when I say this, and I'm not Gonna make a play or anything like that. But my point is, if you were gonna make a bet on the establishment. You know what I mean? Like, do we actually have faith that they're. That the machine would be fair to Brandon Herrera? That's the real question. I bring up his. His likelihood of winning just dropped to 85%. And Tony Gonzalez up to 18, which, again, those numbers don't add up.

[Austin Rogers]

Math ain't math.

[Tim Pool]

The math ain't math and whatever.

[Libby Emmons]

Gotta say, I would. I would miss Jasmine Crockett on the national stage. She is fun to watch.

[Tim Pool]

Ain't going nowhere.

[Adam Johnson]

She'll be on the View.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

She'll be somewhere around.

[Libby Emmons]

She'll be around, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Love a podcast.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe she'll start talking like this again.

[Libby Emmons]

Maybe she'll be Gavin Newsom's running mate.

[Tim Pool]

No, that would be fun.

[Libby Emmons]

Maybe. Maybe really quite the show.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Libby Emmons]

If she loses, they'd get Oscar Noms for that one.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I wonder. I imagine she'll just move and go. Trying to, like, get back into Congress.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, where was she? She could move to Jersey.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, maybe. Where's she originally from? Is she from Jersey?

[Libby Emmons]

I thought she was from Texas.

[Tim Pool]

No, I don't think so.

[Libby Emmons]

Is she not.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe. I don't know.

[Austin Rogers]

Who wants to look it up?

[Tim Pool]

Up?

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, maybe she would. She would just move.

[Tim Pool]

She went to.

[Austin Rogers]

I'm sure she'd cash out for a little while, make a little money, and then maybe make another run at it.

[Tim Pool]

Write a book.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Austin Rogers]

Write a book.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I can't imagine what.

[Libby Emmons]

Jasmine St. Louis. She's from St. Louis, Missouri.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, there you go.

[Libby Emmons]

You go back to Missouri. She could fight Cori Bush for that seat. Cori Bush has been trying to get back for a while now.

[Phil Labonte]

It is astounding that Cori Bush was ever in Congress.

[Libby Emmons]

You realize she. She could. She was part of a congressional hearing on black maternal mortality, and she referred to herself as a birthing person.

[Phil Labonte]

She's just an absolute imbecile.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to say real quick, there's. You are so right now, Kalshee has. There's no contracts available to. To bet. Yes. On Talarico. To buy. Yes. Contracts. Jasmine Crockett. There's. Yes. No, no. She will not get. Get the nomination. Not available. But if you want to bet, she's going to win. And if you want to bet taller, Rico is going to lose. Those are allowed. And we call those value bets. Because 100 bucks on no wins you $9,351. So the idea there, it's a value bet. If you. Again, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's buying contracts on futures predictions. But this is like, for 100 bucks, having a very, very, very slim chance to win, basically 10 GS. You know, there's a lot of people who take those bets, and I think it's probably a bad idea. Probably a bad idea. Jasmine Chigon.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I think that's good.

[Tim Pool]

Now take a look at this. Tony Gonzalez up to 35% to win, which is weird because Brandon Herrera is at 83%. And I think, I think the reason here is. I want to clarify. It's. My understanding is it's supposed to be internally among themselves. Basically, the. Whether or not Brendan Herrera wins. Yes and no is Iris. It's, it's immaterial to whether Tony Gonzalez wins. I'm like, basically, the way the contracts work, all that really matters is what people think. Will Tony win or lose? Not if Brandon is winning. Tony is losing, if you get what I mean. So it often will equal more than 100%. So basically, you have a lot of PE. You have a lot of people betting that their guy's gonna win. It still doesn't add up because Brendan Herrera is at 85 yes and 24 no. Which, you know, doesn't. Math. And Tony Gonzalez at. Yes. 33 cents and no, 77. I will stress this again. This is due to the fact it's the average cost of the contract, not the actual percentage that he's going to win. So again, let's. Oh, actually, where's the Texas 23rd? We got some updates. Here we go.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Pool]

Big jump for Brandon Herrera. 7% reporting and it is nearly tied. Tony Gonzalez leading by 50, 51 votes. Let's go, Brandon. Wait, does that mean what I think?

[Austin Rogers]

I don't think that means what you think it means.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, we're taking it. We're turning it around now.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, appropriated it.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm pretty.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go, Brandon.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, so it's okay.

[Tim Pool]

I'm tweet. Let's go, Brandon. Because you know what, you know, it's.

[Libby Emmons]

Reclaim it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, no, no, no, it's not reclaiming. It's if you know, you know. Right, right. It means both good and bad, depending on the context.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, let's put a picture, put a picture of an AK47 with that. Just an AK47 and then AK40.

[Austin Rogers]

Like, heck, yeah, Herrera or something like that.

[Phil Labonte]

But yeah, I mean, I, I'm, I really do have My fingers crossed that Brandon wins. Obviously, I know the guy, and. And he's a good dude, but the. The. The idea of. Of Gonzalez winning after all that stuff came out about the, you know, cheating on his wife and the. The scandal with the poor woman that ended up killing herself, it seems like it's accidentally if. If. If he still gets elected. I mean, God, I can't believe that he's got this much, this many votes. The fact that he's got, you know, 1800 votes with that track record, those people have to be, like, completely and totally checked out. They don't know about the situation at all.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Jasmine Crockett is already saying that there's been cheating in the election.

[Austin Rogers]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, for real? Let's go. I'm totally on board.

[Adam Johnson]

Let's.

[Libby Emmons]

Let's.

[Tim Pool]

Let's do it. Yeah, let's go. I will. I am with you, Jasmine Crockett. Let's. Let's cry. Fraud. You know, if you want to accuse Dominion, which was bought by a Republican, you know, I will stay out of it.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But I will chew from the sidelines.

[Adam Johnson]

No election's ever been stolen in the history of election.

[Austin Rogers]

Never.

[Adam Johnson]

I certainly don't believe that.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, North Korea, clean as a whistle.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Definitely not America.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, definitely not America.

[Phil Labonte]

Definitely not.

[Tim Pool]

Not once.

[Phil Labonte]

So.

[Austin Rogers]

No, but. But to your point, it's kind of funny.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, really?

[Austin Rogers]

It used to be this spasmod, actually, that if someone had smoked weed or something, they were just toast for an election. And now you have this guy with all the baggage in the world ever

[Phil Labonte]

since the D.C. mayor. I forget what his name was. The guy that was smoking crack.

[Austin Rogers]

Oh, my God.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's. Let's pull up the clip. Oh, it's crashing on us.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm texting my wife right now to put a thousand dollars on Brandon.

[Tim Pool]

It's froze.

[Austin Rogers]

Just text her. Let's go.

[Tim Pool]

We'll have to come back to that in a second. As soon as it starts, just stops. It's freezing up properly. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

In the meantime, Marion Barry smoked crack on camera, still wants an election.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but what was his name? Gillum.

[Austin Rogers]

That is wild. Some kind of motel room or something like that.

[Libby Emmons]

Almost the governor, like a nice hotel.

[Tim Pool]

Wasn't there a picture of him, like, buck naked, like, on the ground?

[Adam Johnson]

Yes, there was.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, like vomiting or something, so.

[Adam Johnson]

Male prostitute actually called, called it in. There were drugs all over the ground, Pills. He's passed out butt naked.

[Tim Pool]

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[Adam Johnson]

Got vomit coming out of his mouth. Horrible picture. Desantis beat him, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Better night than the picture, apparently.

[Libby Emmons]

And if I recall, it was close.

[Tim Pool]

All right, here we go. We got it. We got it. Here we go. Let's. Let's roll tape. We got Jasmine Crockett, who, as of the recording of this episode, is losing. And so of course, the real issue is it's stolen from us all.

[Libby Emmons]

Red has already stated, we encourage each and every one of you to remain resilient.

[Tim Pool]

We cannot allow this type of behavior to be rewarded.

[Libby Emmons]

Because so long as they know that they can win, even if it means cheating, then they will continue to do it. So I am asking you, I am begging you, to make sure that you go ahead and figure out where it

[Tim Pool]

is that you are supposed to vote.

[Libby Emmons]

Stand in line. Wait in line.

[Tim Pool]

They did cheat though. And I stand with Jasmine Crockett on this issue. Stephen Colbert falsely accused Donald Trump of suppressing an interview with Jasmine Crockett, a Democrats opponent, so that they could frame this as though Tellarico was the only competitor against the Republicans. When in fact, the real issue was if Colbert interviewed Telorico, he needed to provide equal opportunity to Jasmine Crockett. However, instead of being honest, Colbert attacked Trump so that regular people would assume it was Democrat versus Republican. And that was the lie meant to prop up the Democrat purporting to be a Christian so that again, the idea here is Jasmine Crockett is not going to get enough middle of the road people and Talarico could. So they're. They're kneecapping Jasmine Crockett, cheating, violating FCC rules, and then lying about and hoaxing smears against Trump so they could steal this election.

[Adam Johnson]

I actually think her voter base needs under two hours to come voting because they're typically not on time.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's. It's. It's progressives in. In Texas. Let me. Where's the race? Texas Democrats. Where is it at? Here we go. She's currently down 7.3, I believe. Is that a 7.7.7? My go. My math is way, way wrong. No, 7.7 Tellarico is up 522,000 with 42% reporting against Jasmine Crockett's 447,000 for the Republican primary. Ken Paxton is down three points, but he is improving with 47% reporting. We don't know exactly. Let me. Let me pull up the prediction marker market on this one Texas Republican primary and see if we can get the turnout. No, I don't care about that one.

[Phil Labonte]

San Antonio and Austin can put Brandon over.

[Tim Pool]

There we go. Paxton is actually the favorite to beat Cornyn, which would be massive. Please. Yeah, please.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, Corn wants to do amnesty, doesn't he?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's exactly about doing it in an amnesty bill.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, he was talking about doing amnesty for daca, but Trump has also said that he wants to make a deal on daca, so. So, you know, I'm comfortable with deals on daca, or, you know, Phil, I'm not. I mean, if. If, If. If a kid's grown up here since they were one because their parents are criminals.

[Tim Pool]

Nope.

[Libby Emmons]

You send them.

[Tim Pool]

We've already done amnesty, what, four times already.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm not crazy about the. I'm not crazy about the amnesty either. Specifically for adults.

[Tim Pool]

Every single time we do amnesty, they go, this will be the last time. And then they do it again.

[Libby Emmons]

They do it again.

[Tim Pool]

So I'm just. I'm done with it.

[Libby Emmons]

No, I saw her the other day saying, 11 million.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Let me ask you this. A guy steals $10,000 cash and then gives it to his son and then dies. Does his son could keep the money? No, not his fault. He's had the money for a long time. It was given to him by his dad. The original owner said, I want my money back. Should we just be like, well, we can't. He was a little kid when he got the money. It's his.

[Phil Labonte]

Even know where the money came from.

[Tim Pool]

And look, it's been sitting his account. He's been using it here and there. He's been making plans based on having that money. He should keep it. Right?

[Libby Emmons]

Do you think that sending the DACA people back would discourage illegal immigration in the future?

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely.

[Libby Emmons]

I ended up here. I don't even speak whatever stupid language.

[Tim Pool]

And how many years have they had to actually do the paperwork and get the job done?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, the. The thing with DACA is if you. Once you registered for DACA under the Obama era, you weren't eligible. No, that was like, what you could do. And it was like, that was your limit because. No, there was no legal status.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so question after registering, if you if you are a 30 year old DACA recipient, are you not allowed to apply for residency?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, there's like, I believe there's limits on what you can do once you've been registered as daca. So you're sort of just like waiting around then.

[Tim Pool]

I would say you. But it's only made your bet.

[Libby Emmons]

But it's only the people who are eligible for DACA are only the people who were qualified for it under that Obama administration.

[Tim Pool]

I don't understand the argument where it's like, someone broke into my house with a baby and now I'm forced to adopt the baby. It just doesn't. It literally makes no sense. You can be like, I'm not gonna kick you out.

[Libby Emmons]

I'd adopt the baby personally.

[Tim Pool]

No. I'd call health services and say, I have no obligation to this criminal who broke into my house with a baby.

[Libby Emmons]

Sure.

[Tim Pool]

And you know, we're gonna drop the baby off at a fire department.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I probably wouldn't do that. But anyway, that's, you know, that's my own thing. But so, I mean, what do you. So if you think that it really would prohibit future immigration. Inhibit. Prevent. Make it not happen.

[Tim Pool]

Well, not prevent. Inhibited. Different words. Discourage.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, discourage.

[Tim Pool]

Parents are going to be like, it should be known. If you illegally enter this country with the intent to violate our laws and effectively spit in the face of our people and our nation with your child, you are not giving your child a better life. In fact, you are going to cause tremendous suffering to them.

[Libby Emmons]

So what do you do with all of the people who got birthright citizenship and then they grew up, you know, in China, for example, terminated? So just say no more birthright citizenship. But what. What if I'm willing.

[Tim Pool]

I'm willing to negotiate on that, where it's like, like your parents are Canadian and they live here part time and you were born here, so you're a citizen. I'll go.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, like the birth tourism stuff,

[Tim Pool]

gone in two seconds.

[Libby Emmons]

So do you. What do you think the court's gonna rule on that?

[Tim Pool]

I actually would not be surprised if there is a. The ruling. It depends on if they go broad or narrow. If they go narrow, then it might just be like a.

[Libby Emmons]

They tend to go narrow.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, I think they're gonna go narrow.

[Tim Pool]

I think Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh are probably going to be a bit more based, with Thomas and Alito, of course, being perfectly based and the rest are going to be as the least based possible.

[Adam Johnson]

ACB is automatically.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, Sotomayor.

[Austin Rogers]

And I do think There is Kagan. Yeah. I do think there is space.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm not a biologist.

[Austin Rogers]

What's her name? Oh, you're talking about Katani Brown Jackson. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Good Lord.

[Libby Emmons]

I just know her as not a biologist.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

There.

[Austin Rogers]

There's a Supreme Court case called Wong Kim Mark that they're in part deciding in this case.

[Tim Pool]

That's the original from the 18th century.

[Austin Rogers]

Exactly. Yeah. And I think there's a way that even under Wong Kim Ark, you could say that the way Trump has gotten rid of birthright citizenship is lawful, and you could, they could read it narrowly. There's actually a good law review article out about this from one of my former counsels, so.

[Libby Emmons]

But it would be unlikely to be grandfathered in. That would be unlikely. Right? I mean, if somebody, if somebody was, let's say somebody was born in California to Chinese mom who came to the US Simply to have the baby and then have the child have American citizenship, grows up in China the whole time. And let's say that was in 2013. Even if Trump eliminates birthright citizenship, that doesn't do anything for that.

[Tim Pool]

It should.

[Libby Emmons]

Those cases.

[Austin Rogers]

Well, yeah, it's like, also, would it.

[Tim Pool]

How would it grant. If they rule broadcast will.

[Austin Rogers]

It's. It's whether they're subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That's the language from the concept.

[Tim Pool]

I, I disagree with that. I think the obvious goal with the, with the 14th Amendment is to say the people that were born here af, like we're concluding the Civil War. All of these slaves, they were born here. They're citizens, too. And then the far left is like. And this means anyone at any point born here, even if they're. The reason why they said subject to the jurisdiction of the United States is that the slaves in the United States were subjects of the US Government jurisdiction.

[Phil Labonte]

Of course.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, exactly. And if you come into the United States, you have what's colloquially referred to as an anchor baby. I don't think you are subject to the jurisdiction there.

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Tim Pool]

So, yeah, no, we actually have treaties with other countries as to your status.

[Phil Labonte]

And everybody that. That makes remarks about, oh, well, you know, they're like, well, you know, that's what the Constitution that said. And, and I understand the. When you read it verbatim, I understand that. But at the same time, this was written before there was all these generous social programs. So, like, it used to be where if you come to the US and you become a citizen, it was just like, all right, good luck. But now it's like, you come to the US you get Social Security you get all these, all sorts of benefits.

[Tim Pool]

What? Brandon Herrera is now down by 0.3. Literally just 10 votes. Brandon Herrera is trailing Tony Gonzalez by just 10, 10 votes. So with 4509 votes currently in, every time we get a new update, Tony Gonzalez drops further. I believe in the next update it will flip. That being said, still only 7% are of the votes are currently in. So let's just.

[Adam Johnson]

To avoid a runoff, he needs fingers crossed. What, to avoid a runoff, he needs what, 60%?

[Tim Pool]

Is that how it works?

[Adam Johnson]

It has to be within a certain amount of votes. That's why.

[Tim Pool]

Well, look, Keith, Keith Barton and Francisco Canseco are so low, I don't think it's going to matter. What if he just ends up flipping it entirely? Then, you know, 40, 000 votes come in and it's like 80. Brandon Herrera, my wife just put a

[Adam Johnson]

thousand dollars on Brandon.

[Tim Pool]

Did she really? On, on call, she. Yeah, but it, but like you, you don't win that much.

[Adam Johnson]

I know.

[Tim Pool]

A thousand dollars just to show penny bags. You'll win 278 bucks.

[Adam Johnson]

That's fine. Pay for, pay for my meal.

[Tim Pool]

Just your meal?

[Adam Johnson]

Just my meal.

[Phil Labonte]

Not even your wife's dollar doesn't do what it used to do.

[Tim Pool]

And I'll bring some home. Yeah. There was some controversy on Kalshee over the death of Khomeini because there was a wager, will he be out of power before? And that's like April 1st, it was like March 1st, April 1st, September, and he died. You know, and so a lot of people were like, that counts. And call. She said, we have never had wages on death. It's always removed from office. But here's the, here's the problem, I suppose, is that that guy's never, it should have been 99% zero. Like never gonna happen. He's the supreme leader. He's never gonna be removed from office. The only way he exits office is after his body exits reality. And so I think a lot of people made the assumption because on polymarket it is if you're dead, that counts. And so Kash said, no, no, no, no. If it, if they're dead, they stop it where it is and then do a fair market value payout. So, you know.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll see how it goes. I, I do think that Brandon's gonna pull it out. It's just, just maybe just my hope speaking. But, you know, I, I have full

[Adam Johnson]

confidence here in a really good campaign. He was knocking doors and he was doing everything supposed to do.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. Yeah, I saw him out there.

[Tim Pool]

And Tony Gonzalez was embroiled in a huge scandal that broke right before, you know, this primary.

[Adam Johnson]

So you got multiple congress people calling for him to resign.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah. Wow.

[Tim Pool]

That's why they assume Brandon Harry is going to win. I mean, it's going to be epic.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If he wins, I hope the first thing he does, he just like goes to Thomas Massie and they both have a bill together, co sponsor that's like the NFA is here by repealed effective, you know, April 1st.

[Phil Labonte]

Wouldn't it be sweet?

[Adam Johnson]

I was torn about him running because if he does win, I was worried about range day going away. It's a range day every year they get to out to and I was like, Brandon, these it he's. We're still going to do it. Just going to be a congressman instead.

[Tim Pool]

It's going to be a what?

[Adam Johnson]

It's going to be a congressman out there instead.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Range day with range date in outside of D.C. maybe we'll do it in like Virginia or something.

[Adam Johnson]

Vegas last time went to Scotto range.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, okay.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, my God, what a beautiful range.

[Phil Labonte]

Awesome. Yeah, I, I, I haven't had a chance to make it out any of the range range days. The last one just this past year was like right when my kid was going to be born.

[Adam Johnson]

So I'm like, we had Tony Moon out there. Rooftop Korean.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm taking shots from a rooftop downrange. It was, it was so much fun.

[Phil Labonte]

That's great. He's a, he's a good dude. I follow him.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man. He brought his kids out. What?

[Adam Johnson]

He brought his two kids out.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, did he really? That's good stuff.

[Adam Johnson]

Good.

[Phil Labonte]

Dad, you wrote a book recently.

[Adam Johnson]

He did. He did get a book. Buy his book, everyone.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, you should buy.

[Tim Pool]

Can we, can it get us the results faster here? Come on.

[Phil Labonte]

No, they're not going to get us the results faster.

[Tim Pool]

Cornyn is still up by 3.1 points, but Ken Paxton is slowly closing in. Austin's not reporting yet. That's going to be interesting. It's going to go corn and heavy.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I think that'll go corny just because of the makeup of Austin.

[Tim Pool]

1.1 million votes already being tricked. Anna Bender, 11,462 votes. Wesley Hunt, 144,000. I always wonder how it is like lesser known candidates. I don't know who these people are.

[Austin Rogers]

Wesley Hunt.

[Tim Pool]

I know Wesley Hunt, but Anna Bender, I don't know.

[Adam Johnson]

It's their backyards. It's, it's they probably stay in their backyards, just campaign when they get a good 50 mile radius.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Jasmine Crockett. She getting crushed. It's getting worse. Yeah, she's almost. She's down almost a hundred thousand votes.

[Adam Johnson]

That's racist.

[Phil Labonte]

Of course it is.

[Tim Pool]

Greg Abbott's clearly got this. Ain't nobody voting against him.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's extremely popular in Texas still.

[Tim Pool]

Gina Hina Yosa is dominating the Democrat governor primary race, so.

[Austin Rogers]

Heard of her?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. New York Lieutenant Governor, you got Dan Patrick. No one cared about the Democrat for the Attorney general, Maze Middleton. This will be interesting because Ken Paxton's out.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it looks like it's going to be Maze Middleton. Is that a woman?

[Adam Johnson]

A lot of my people were voting for Chip Roy on the fence about him.

[Phil Labonte]

I think Chip Roy is one of the better members of Congress. Yeah, I didn't say really. Not. Not to say that he's a good member of Congress, but he's one of the better members, you know, most of the Republicans.

[Tim Pool]

And Crenshaw's losing.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, he could lose.

[Tim Pool]

He's gonna lose.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, he's gonna lose the seat.

[Tim Pool]

He's gonna lose his seat. Check us out.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

58 reporting and he's down almost 20 points.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Wow, that's such a bummer, man. When he got in, we were so excited.

[Libby Emmons]

And then it was kind of a disappointment.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So. Very much so.

[Tim Pool]

Just he was like, he, what do you snap at that little girl or whatever that thing was? And like, man, he got made fun of by what's his face on snl.

[Libby Emmons]

That was pretty bad.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then he just kind of was a dick and we invited him on the show and he canceled on us. Twice. I think it was twice.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. That's rude.

[Phil Labonte]

Some bitch and I, like, we.

[Tim Pool]

We weren't even like gonna be complete. It wasn't going to be completely full of. Filled with acrimony. Like it was going to be some probably, you know, a little acrimony, a little bit like a little debate, a little pushback. But we're not. We, you know, we were not the hardcore anti Duncranshaw people. But you know what? Maybe Steve Toth is the guy.

[Austin Rogers]

You know, I use acrimony in my first interview in the panhandle, which.

[Tim Pool]

It's a good word.

[Austin Rogers]

It's a good word, but it just doesn't play great in the Panhandle.

[Tim Pool]

Of course not. See, I'm never going to run for office because I like to use big words and stuff. You know what I mean?

[Adam Johnson]

My dad was Pensacola. We were there quite often.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, it's kind of a pretentious word I could have have used, you know, I don't know. Foment violence or animosity. Yeah, animosity or something.

[Tim Pool]

Acrimony.

[Adam Johnson]

Have a campaign website?

[Austin Rogers]

I do.

[Adam Johnson]

You should announce that to a Condition

[Austin Rogers]

Rogers for Florida dot com.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go.

[Adam Johnson]

That's the one.

[Austin Rogers]

That's the one. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Just Rogers. I mean, this is pretty crazy because he's getting smashed.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Damn crunch.

[Tim Pool]

58 in and he is getting smashed.

[Libby Emmons]

He must be feeling pretty bad about now.

[Phil Labonte]

Poor Dan Crenshaw looking for a little backup.

[Austin Rogers]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe if he would come on shows like this and actually defend himself. And. And then he got into it with Sean Ryan. Was it. Was that. Was that happened?

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

You should beef up his LinkedIn.

[Tim Pool]

I'm tweeting. Oh, no.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't even have a LinkedIn.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, the. The back and forth with Sean Ryan,

[Libby Emmons]

I had a LinkedIn and every time I've tried to use it, I end up not knowing the password and it gets all screwed up and so I have to make a new one just to like, see. Whatever the thing is, I love this, you know, whatever the, like trans activist professor at Oregon State that I'm looking

[Tim Pool]

at while we're waiting on the results. I gotta play this clip for you guys. Are there measures being taken not to

[Libby Emmons]

eliminate other possible alternatives to leadership?

[Phil Labonte]

This is war and we're taking out the threat.

[Tim Pool]

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[Austin Rogers]

Let's.

[Tim Pool]

Let's listen to the rest. It's fun. What we'd call not all the arrows, but going after the archers. You'll concede this is war. We haven't declared war. They declared war on us.

[Austin Rogers]

But we haven't.

[Adam Johnson]

There we go.

[Tim Pool]

We haven't declared. They've called it war. What I was saying. Okay, well, that was a misspoke. What I was saying is they declared war on us, but war is ugly. It always has been ugly. But we're, you know, we're at a. We're taking out a regime. Sorry. This is why people hate Congress. Just for quite some time. But you're not conceding this already. We have declared war. So if we haven't declared war, then I don't see that the president asked us to declare war yet, but they have declared war on us. We're just simply fighting the, the threat. That's, that's, that's been at our door for 47 years.

[Phil Labonte]

It is really at our door.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Libby Emmons]

It's not really at our door, no.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, but it could.

[Tim Pool]

Is there anybody else running that we. Al Green. He's winning, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Green's running, yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

He's awful. Worst.

[Phil Labonte]

He's just terrible.

[Adam Johnson]

Tony just jumped up by another.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, he made. He jumped.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Tony, wait, I'm not seeing that in the New York Times. What's your. What's your.

[Adam Johnson]

NBC News.

[Tim Pool]

NBC News. So Tony just took a lead from Brandon. No.

[Adam Johnson]

So he's up 12, 7, 54. Brandon's at 11,068 with 46.2.

[Tim Pool]

Now. We're just going to look at this one. We're just going to. We're just going to look at this one. What are you doing? Makes me feel better.

[Libby Emmons]

Green is down.

[Phil Labonte]

That would be nice. I'd like to see Green lose.

[Tim Pool]

Did I just pull. Oh, here it is. I got it right here.

[Libby Emmons]

68% in. He's at 43%.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, my goodness. Amazing. Who's Christian Menifee? I hope he's worse.

[Libby Emmons]

Is it possible to be worse?

[Tim Pool]

I gotta be honest. Like, these guys might actually be a lot better. I would love moderate libs.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, moderate libs is what we're looking for. I mean, I do think that the Democrats have really done the American people a disservice by offering zero viable candidates.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, this is so awesome.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, the internal polling with the Democrats is the Democratic Party's losing to their own Democratic Party, so.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, the far left has really taken over that thing. You know, that's how we end up with Mamdani and aoc.

[Phil Labonte]

I saw a tweet the other day that said that the most of the Democrats, there's something like, like 55 or 60% want more progressive politicians.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, well, I mean, there was a story out of Axios the other Day. Yeah. Crenshaw. Crenshaw. Looks like Crenshaw lost.

[Phil Labonte]

He's doing.

[Tim Pool]

They called it. Why aren't they giving us the update on Tony Gonzalez here at the New York Times?

[Libby Emmons]

But anyway, a lot of Democrats are looking for AOC to be the heir to Bernie Sanders and run in 2028. And that's like a Democrat thing. They want her.

[Tim Pool]

So we got NBC news.

[Libby Emmons]

I think she could win, but I thought, I thought Crockett could win too.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Brandon just, just got knocked way down. I mean that's not looking good.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, damn.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he, he's down six points.

[Adam Johnson]

That is significant. Is there a map up

[Tim Pool]

the, the maps that we have? No. Yeah, the 270 to win MAP doesn't include all the, all the individual little houses. Oh wait, it does, does it? It does. Okay, let's find 23 there. There's no map though.

[Austin Rogers]

That's. My Buddy's running in 32 right there, Jace. But he's. I think he's clinched it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, he's crushed it, bro.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

70 in. He's got 51. Let's go, Jace.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, he's a stud.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go. Tony Gonzalez. Can you believe it? If he wins I, I 62, you might lose a thousand dollars.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, it's this money

[Phil Labonte]

that's absolutely. That's so disheartening.

[Tim Pool]

I mean I'm not trying to look at that. I would make all she markets got him at 62%. And again, that's why I was saying like I don't want to be a dick, but would the machine state ever allow someone as based as Brandon Herrera?

[Phil Labonte]

Like I said, considering he was within 400 points, I mean 400 votes last time. And to think that he could, you know, not when Gonzalez has this, this terrible, you know, scandal that's going on. I makes you, makes you get a little bit black pilled. You're just like, yo, Crenshaw's gone. How on earth does that happen?

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's see all. Let's see if we got an update on the Crenshaw. Crenshaw's cooked.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

57.

[Libby Emmons]

And he's done.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's down nearly 20 points.

[Adam Johnson]

This is going to be interesting though. Looking at the midterms going forward. You see a lot of these people who held office for a long time getting ousted in the primaries. That might be a good indicator that people are watching what's going on.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

And a lot of, a lot of the issues I have, Republicans is they, they fall asleep during the midterms but if we're seeing people get their seats flipped like Crenshaw, that's, that is a significant indicator that maybe midterms won't look like what a lot of people are predicting.

[Tim Pool]

Isn't it kind of wild that Al Green did as well as he did?

[Phil Labonte]

What was that?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Al Green just got a big jump.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, did he?

[Tim Pool]

Yep. He's down by only 5.7. I'm saying, isn't it crazy he's done as well as he did?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's such a clown. I mean, he's crazy.

[Austin Rogers]

Crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

There's so much like incumbents have such an advantage in, in Congress and stuff because the, the people that know who's running, most people can't even, you know, identify their own Congress person, never mind, you know, actually go out, be bothered to go out and vote for them. So people in Congress that, that are in Congress, they have such an advantage and it's a shame because there's so many people in Congress that need to be primary and removed and stuff. I mean, it seems like the only kind of, the only kind of silver lining is it looks like Crenshaw is not going to be. But it is, it is a drag.

[Tim Pool]

They've called it for k rabble with 0% reporting, running unopposed. Hey, I don't know if that's good or bad, but congratulations, Democrat.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go, Kyle.

[Tim Pool]

Because he's in Tom Sells district. Is that. Who is it?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's got that hat on, the 10 gallon hat. So you know, he's a real Texan. Even though.

[Tim Pool]

Except he's a Democrat.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm a real Texan, whoever they call

[Libby Emmons]

it, who's into castration.

[Tim Pool]

K. Self, you know. Hey, Keith Self, the incumbent has defeated Mark Nugent. I don't know if that's good or bad.

[Austin Rogers]

I don't even have a picture up there.

[Tim Pool]

Let's see what he got.

[Libby Emmons]

Self is a weird last name. It's kind of. You know what else is a weird last name is person.

[Austin Rogers]

I've never met a person whose last name is Person.

[Libby Emmons]

Actually, I've seen it out there.

[Tim Pool]

If my last name was person I name, I could guy, guy, person. People would be like, that's not a real name. My parents hate me, dude.

[Libby Emmons]

Like Northwest.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody was like, tim, you should name your son or daughter Gene. Either way it works.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, G or J. And then I was like, because I hate my child.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, don't, don't hate your child.

[Tim Pool]

What if it's a boy named Cess?

[Libby Emmons]

That's terrible.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, says Person.

[Tim Pool]

No, cesspool.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, cesspool. Oh, says person.

[Tim Pool]

Gene. Person. Gene pool.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The things that people do. I've met. Have you ever noticed there's a weird correlation between people. People's jobs and their names?

[Libby Emmons]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Like, what is it? This is. I. I forgot what the fan amount is called, but let me. Let me. Let me pull up some examples of it. I think I used to do it right. I think one of the best examples is Chris Moneymaker.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What do you think he does?

[Phil Labonte]

Makes money.

[Austin Rogers]

I think he's a poker.

[Libby Emmons]

I think he's a bank.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah, I think he's a.

[Tim Pool]

He's one of the most famous poker players.

[Austin Rogers]

Doyle Brunson, Chris Moneymaker. These guys are.

[Tim Pool]

Moneymaker is one of the most famous poker pros. He's famous for being. He won. It's what's called a satellite tournament, which is a small, cheap, like, amateur thing where you're trying to win it. You're trying to win a seat to the actual tournament. And then he won the tournament, and it created this boom where it was like, you could be a regular guy and win $3 million. And his name is Moneymaker.

[Austin Rogers]

Love to see it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Austin Rogers]

We just went with a traditional vanilla name.

[Phil Labonte]

He should be one of the. One of the guys that works at the Federal Reserve.

[Austin Rogers]

I know, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Money maker. It would make sense.

[Adam Johnson]

You know, you've still got multiple districts not voting yet, and really, it's raised like multiple zero votes in yet. They're smaller counties.

[Tim Pool]

It's called an aptronym. Yeah. When somebody coincidentally has a job. Usain Bolt.

[Austin Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He's the fastest printer. There's a meteorologist named Amy Freeze and another name, Sarah Blizzard. There's a Blizzard is good. That's good. There's numerous Dr. Butts who are partologists.

[Austin Rogers]

Like, bro, I know a Dr. Butts.

[Tim Pool]

Why, for the love of all that is holy, would you have the last name Butts and be like, I'm gonna be a partologist?

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's just. You're calling. You're like, I have to do it.

[Libby Emmons]

You're the ass man.

[Phil Labonte]

What movie was the. Was the license plate ass man?

[Libby Emmons]

It was Seinfeld long vanity license plates.

[Tim Pool]

So there's a concept just leaned into. There's a concept called nominative determinism, which is a hypothesis that people will gravitate towards careers that fit their names. And the general idea is it's like, if you will it, there's a way or the inverse of out of sight, out of mind, when your whole life you Keep hearing that word or, you know, you gravitate toward those things. I will say at the same time, many people's last names are literally just based on the job they had.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

You know, like Chandler or the son of the person.

[Tim Pool]

Right, right.

[Phil Labonte]

Smiths.

[Tim Pool]

Do you know and where you're from?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that's like a. Somebody who is a Smith.

[Tim Pool]

Like, your last name is where you're from. John of Barcelona. You know, something like that.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's the. That's the. In the Middle East, a lot of people, like, if you're like Al Kuwaiti, it's from Kuwait or whatever.

[Tim Pool]

There's also. If people don't know this. Berg means hill in German.

[Phil Labonte]

Means hill.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I'm pretty sure I don't speak German, but. But there's a lot of places called berg. And people now associate berg with city. But it referenced, you know, like John's Hill, you know.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. The names in my. In my family, like on the Norwegian and the Yankee side, they're all pretty traceable to, like, the thing that it was, you know, like, Berg is resident of this valley, Bergen.

[Phil Labonte]

The surname is primarily of German, Dutch and Jewish origin, and it means castle or fortress.

[Tim Pool]

Berg in German and Swedish means hill or mountain.

[Adam Johnson]

Who first and renamed it. That's kind of what.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

Conquered. Who first then renamed it Berg is Burg. Is now Castle.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no. Tony and Zahist took another big jump.

[Phil Labonte]

Rough.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no.

[Libby Emmons]

Crazy that people would vote for that guy.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So if I. If I bet against Brandon right now.

[Libby Emmons]

What's his name?

[Tim Pool]

One G wins me two GS.

[Libby Emmons]

Even though he was like, let's kill kids.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

So that their parents learn lessons about gun control.

[Tim Pool]

I can't do it.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, God.

[Tim Pool]

Can't do it. We're still going to bet 999. 999 on Brendan. Her to win. If I wager $1 million, I will win back $9,000. No, it says you can only wager eight grand.

[Phil Labonte]

Totally worth it. Come on. The big money, I mean.

[Tim Pool]

Call. She's still giving him the odds to win, which is pretty amazing. Although he's. He's dropped substantially. Brutal.

[Phil Labonte]

So someone just sent me a message saying that Texas primaries need more than 50% to avoid a runoff.

[Tim Pool]

So he may go to a runoff.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. If he doesn't get over 50.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but is he going to win? Keith Barton in Francisco, maybe. I mean, the. The challengers to Gonzalez have more reason to vote Herrera.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, in Bexer county, which. One of the largest ones. Barton's got 1500 votes, while Gonzalez has 8600 and Herrera has 7600. That's a significant portion. That's 8%.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

In the large county.

[Tim Pool]

So French are cooked. What do we got? Al Green. He, he, he's close. He's close. We'll see. Maybe he's going to turn it back around. It's a 70% reporting. All right, we're gonna go to your super chats and rumble rants as we watch these, these numbers. Smash that, like, button. Share the show with everyone in your life. Tell them you love them. Before we do, my friends got a great sponsor. It is shopbeam.com Go to shop b e a m dot com Tim Pool. Pick up your Beam Dream nighttime blend to support better sleep. I drink this every single night. I was very happy to be drinking this while I was subdued by convalescence. Consult your local dictionary. It was. It's delicious. I'm a huge fan. It's got magnesium L theanine. It's got reishi in it. It's got melatonin, of course, so it helps you sleep. They got a bunch of different flavors. Cinnamon, cocoa, sea salt, caramel, brownie batter. These are my three favorite flavors, and I switch between them. The sea salt caramel one's absolutely fantastic. No added sugar, only 15 calories. I mix it with some hot water right before bed. Drink it. It's delicious. And the best part is stay hydrated. Stay hydrated. So if you go to shopbeam.com timpool use code timpool, you can get up to 40% off. Not even a joke. I don't need no scripts for this. Bm. I'm a huge fan. I legit drink this every single night. And I have a sleep tracker on my watch and my phone. And my sleep score has legitimately improved by like four or five points on average. And it's amazing. If you're a dude, your body produces testosterone and HGH during deep and REM sleep. If you are not sleeping well, if you are missing those nutrients, you are going to get fat, tired, and sick. And so, so obviously on all of those things, consult your nutritionist and doctor, whatever. But they're gonna, they're gonna tell you very much similar. Like, you need to get that legit sleep so that your body can get the, you know, you want your testosterone up. You don't wanna be a low T guy, you know, nobody does. So you should lift. And I recommend Beam Dream. Not saying it'll improve your testosterone, but, you know, you wanna get good sleep. Thanks for sponsoring the show. Let's go to your rumble rants and super chats, of course, and see what y' all have to say. Super pooper says everyone here is beyond annoying. With pleasure. He says to hell with your speculation unless you have the intel that Trump does. Stfu. Alex Jones already proved to me he isn't worth listening to. So have many others. I don't actually know what your argument is.

[Phil Labonte]

He's a plan truster and he doesn't approve of people that don't trust the.

[Libby Emmons]

Trust the government. Trust the government. Everyone always trust the government.

[Austin Rogers]

Kind of my thesis.

[Tim Pool]

He's arming the Kurds, or however you spell their Star wars name. So you can just calm the hell down. Has there ever. Libby, I have a question for you. Has there ever just at any point in US history, been a problem caused by the US arming the enemy faction of a enemy of ours?

[Libby Emmons]

That's never happened in Latin America. Never in Latin America or the Middle East. The Middle east or southeast Eastern Europe. Literally never happened.

[Tim Pool]

Literally every time. It's backfired every single time.

[Phil Labonte]

To be fair, the Kurds aren't really. As far as I can. As far as I can tell, the Kurds aren't enemies. Like we actually helped them out.

[Libby Emmons]

Never happened either.

[Tim Pool]

The Mujahideen weren't our enemies. We helped them out.

[Phil Labonte]

The point that I'm making and they

[Tim Pool]

blew up the World Trade center point

[Phil Labonte]

that I'm making is like the Kurds were. Are pretty pro America because of the. I believe it was the first Gulf War when Saddam Hussein was gassing them. And.

[Libby Emmons]

And they're pro America because it's convenient right now.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed.

[Libby Emmons]

And it's been convenient for a while. And the CIA has been arming them.

[Phil Labonte]

They are also communists too, so.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and. Oh my God, don't they also team up with antifa. Isn't that like part of.

[Austin Rogers]

I don't.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, they're communists, so maybe.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I've got. I've got some friends that actually did that. Worked with them during the Iraq.

[Libby Emmons]

I was talking to some people about it just today.

[Tim Pool]

The better argument, I'd say is this. Joshua French says Iran is not a new war. We've been at war with them for 47 years. How many Americans died because of Iran? See, I actually.

[Libby Emmons]

We have always been at war with East Asia.

[Tim Pool]

No, but I think it's fair to say that Iran has been as a. As a regional power. They wage the war, they're capable of waging in the region and they have been bombing and killing Americans and our allies in the region for some time. And this is. This is Trump being like, yeah, I'm done with it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, they were. They were responsible for a lot of the roadside bombs and stuff like that during the Iraq War.

[Tim Pool]

So, yeah, mytho says Libby, we won in Vietnam. They signed a peace treaty that they only broke three years after we pulled out. We were within 30 miles of the Chinese border in Korea before China got involved. Indeed, that's true. We basically won. And then China was like, eh, we're gonna fund the other side. And then just sent wave after wave of their own men against our limited.

[Libby Emmons]

That kind of means we didn't. We didn't really win.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And Russia is using North Koreans right now, aren't they, to fight in Ukraine?

[Tim Pool]

We call it the Zap Brannigan strategy, where you send wave after wave of your own men to just die until you overwhelm the opponent.

[Libby Emmons]

You can do that if you're a place like Russia or China, because you have that many guys.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. And the funny thing is, this actually is Russia's strategy. Famously in like World War II, they were just like mass produced garbage weapons and sent as many people just to wipe them out. Zerg, we call it. But the funny thing is, in Futurama, Z Branigan famously defeated the Killbots and he said he discovered their weakness. They had a preset kill limit. So he sent wave after wave of his own men to die until they hit their kill limit and stopped. And so that's basically the Russia and China strategy.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it's very effective. That's not really the American strategy. It's interesting because I think if we're going to do global conflicts and we're going to like go in places and do all this stuff and take over places and Cuba's next and whatever else, then it does make me a lot more in favor of autonomous weapons than I previously have been because it would reduce the. It would reduce American deaths. And like, I'm all in for reducing American deaths.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean like autonomous weapons and stuff like that. Those are coming whether we. Whether people are comfortable with them.

[Tim Pool]

Sure, I want to. I want to.

[Libby Emmons]

Doesn't stop me from philosophizing about it myself.

[Tim Pool]

I want to. I want to stress this from Briggs. He says Obama dropped bombs on Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and others. Were we at war then? Simple answer.

[Libby Emmons]

Pelosi was cool with it.

[Tim Pool]

Simple answer is yes. However, challenges. They didn't fight back. We were just bombing their countries and they just did. Did largely nothing. Iraq, yes, we were at war. Afghanistan. Yeah, we were at war. Libya. Yeah, we were at war. And look at the state of Libya now. We just haven't followed through. Yemen and Pakistan are the only ones where we can question, because Yemen and Pakistan did not engage in armed conflict with us. So there was no between nations. So, that being said, I would agree. It's not a fight if I punch you in the back of the head and you fall down. It was an ambush, it was a strike. No fight ensued. No one struck back. So when we were bombing civilian targets in Yemen and Yemen was largely just, like, hiding, like, as a government. Yeah. I think it's fair to say that we were bombing countries we were not at war with. Same thing is true for Pakistan as for the rest of the countries. We were literally at war with them. We came, we saw, he died. Yeah.

[Austin Rogers]

Don't we think that the United States Since World War II, who has been subject to foreign policy loss after foreign policy loss, and that Trump has given us the first sort of strength and the first foreign policy victories that we.

[Tim Pool]

No, I disagree. I do think that he's given us some of the. I wouldn't say loss after loss or insinuating kind of weakness. I would argue that Trump has, with, like, the Abraham Accords, for instance, hit a grand slam and Jared Kushner credit as well. They. It's. It's a. It's amazing. His timeline for withdrawn Afghanistan was. Was. Was great. Getting our troops out of Syria, absolutely fantastic. Syria, do your thing. I guess Obama was a nightmare. Obama and Bush were just horrible. Now, I wouldn't call them weak, because, boy, did they blow up civilians. Whoa, ho.

[Libby Emmons]

Boy, they loved it. Yeah, it was their favorite.

[Tim Pool]

So I'm. I'm. I. I have no problem saying I think Trump has, like, been substantially better than all the other presidents. I've routinely referred to him as one of our first net positive presidents. I was talking to this guy back in his first term, this black dude, and he was like. And I asked him, I was like, you think Trump is racist? And he's like, hell, yeah, Trump is racist. And I was like, really? You think Trump's racist? He's like, yeah, but I also think he's the least racist president we've ever had. And then I was like, go on. And he's like, bro, we had presidents. We had presidents who own slaves. And I was like, indeed we did. He's like, right? He's like, so Trump's racist about some things, but he's the least racist president we've ever had. That's a good thing. And I was like, all right, I accept that. Like, okay, we found compromise here.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like, I don't. I think it's fair to say if your perspective is that there are some biases that Trump has based on race. So you're arguing there's some racism there. I'd go, yeah, probably in, like, minor things that are not super important the way most people would perceive them to be. I don't consider him to be. When we say racist, we think, like, will he have an aversion to black people? I don't think that's true.

[Libby Emmons]

No, I don't think.

[Tim Pool]

But does he probably have some racial biases? And he probably does. That's a fair. He's the least racist president.

[Adam Johnson]

Like, bias is not racism. Those are two very separate things.

[Austin Rogers]

I also think racist is.

[Libby Emmons]

I think that's right.

[Austin Rogers]

I think if everything is racist, then nothing's racist.

[Tim Pool]

Of course.

[Austin Rogers]

And.

[Tim Pool]

But.

[Austin Rogers]

But a lot of what's attributed to him as being racist is just. It's. It's not racist at all. It's.

[Tim Pool]

I. I agree. I like the guy's statement because it turns the left's argument on their head.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like, sure, Trump is racist and the least racist president we've ever had, which is a good thing. And then it puts them in a position where it's like, I do agree with you, but here's why. It's better than it's ever been. And then it puts the liberals in a position where it's like, do you agree with this black man who has approached this from. Yes, you're correct, but it's still better than it's ever been. You have to have these liberals concede, like, it's true. If you think Trump is racist, you have to acknowledge he is the least racist we've ever had. So I think it's a. It's a. It's a clever tactic.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. You know, I. I've had some classmates from my grad school that called me racist for running for Congress.

[Tim Pool]

That proves it.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. And if you look at my wedding party, it's like just a rainbow. Yeah. Honestly, not to. And not to be that guy who's like, oh, I have one. But, yeah, it's like, okay, you can call me whatever you want, but if you don't have evidence for it, you're just kind of a jerk. So.

[Tim Pool]

All right. We got this from Cerebral Vagabond. He says, tim, please read I must a Tim cast member and combat veteran trying to leave a bad situation and need to relocate as quick as possible. Please view my Give Send Go page slash CV0 raised yet? God bless. Go Trump. Well, best of luck there, sir. Best of luck. Carl says tim, never get sick again. I'm forced to watch asmongold and the quartering to get my daily news. Well, you don't have to. There are still people here. But, bro, I just, I've been, I've been more sick in the past. I've more sick in the past eight months than I've ever been in my life. Like, I've been sick like, what, four or five times since August.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I was sick in September. It was brutal.

[Tim Pool]

You know what I think it is, to be honest? I'm getting older, but I used to travel all the time, so my immune system was just bonkers. And now I don't travel at all and I'm just here in West Virginia. So then I start, you know, we go to Austin in October, we go to dc, into the club three times, and all of a sudden I'm coming out of this one local area where we stay most of the time, and I'm getting sick again. So I just gotta build up that immune system. And we're gonna be traveling again. We're going. I'm not gonna say anything about where we're going, but we're traveling again and, you know, probably gonna get sick again.

[Austin Rogers]

I have three kids, so I just.

[Tim Pool]

You're getting sick all the time. I said, I stay sick. This is the other thing too, because I told my wife, I was like, I honestly think it's the baby. And she's crawling around on the floor and grabbing everything, and then I'm grabbing her and kissing her.

[Austin Rogers]

You know, remind me how old she is again. She's one and I'm sure playing with other kids, too.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And that was the bigger concern. That she'd be around other kids is not as much.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And so I do think the travel is the bigger factor, but I'm not going to discount that. She's crawling around all over the floor. And like, we do clean, we try to keep everything clean and disinfecting all that stuff, but she's grabbing whatever and then I'm picking her up and carrying her around, and then I'll give her a kiss on the cheek or the head and I'm just sucking in those germs from the ground and it's probably not helping.

[Austin Rogers]

Are you taking vitamin C and zinc?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, bro, I'm, I, I, I, I pro. I probably nearly just like died overdosing on Airborne and Zycam and you more

[Austin Rogers]

of the drain then, or whatever.

[Libby Emmons]

I can't handle that zycam stuff. And, you know, not supposed to chew it. You're supposed to just let it dissolve in your mouth.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just. Okay, but here's the reason why. It's not meant to be ingested. It's meant to coat your mouth in zinc to inhibit viral replication. In your mouth.

[Libby Emmons]

That's fair.

[Tim Pool]

So it's trying to reduce viral load. I think. I think what I will do though, is I got a really easy solution if I ever start feeling sick, I will just get a blood boy.

[Adam Johnson]

Oh, God.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, sure. That's great.

[Adam Johnson]

Remember that year where, like, the flu wasn't here?

[Libby Emmons]

Vampire pool, you know.

[Tim Pool]

You guys know this? Like, it's like seven grand or eight grand and it's a thing that all. Yeah. This is. You didn't know about this? There are services.

[Austin Rogers]

Brave new world.

[Tim Pool]

This is what all rich Satanists do there. Well, I mean, not all of them are Satanists, but what probably.

[Libby Emmons]

Probably all the rich Satanists do do.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, for sure. True.

[Libby Emmons]

Are all the people who do this Satanist. Probably not.

[Tim Pool]

There are companies you can call and you will and. And you say, like, I'd like to do the plasma. It's called like, plasma something. And they take the blood plasma. It is scientifically proven plasma phoresis. That is. I don't know if that's. That sounds maybe right. But I'm not entirely sure. But if you take the blood plasma from a younger organism and transfer it to an older, the older one heals and the inverse is true. That's why I thought that's what it was.

[Libby Emmons]

That's part of why, like, when women have children, like, they get extra, you

[Tim Pool]

know, stem cells and.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If you take an older person's plasma and put it to a young person, they get sick.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I bet.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. Big tech billionaire who.

[Tim Pool]

Peter Thiel reportedly did this.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Libby Emmons]

And who's that other guy who, like, tries to stay young forever and Ryan Johnson.

[Tim Pool]

Weird. He did it with his son.

[Libby Emmons]

Son, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Get a son, give him his blood.

[Adam Johnson]

I think there was some article out in Australia, Skynet or something came out and said that actually people who do the plasma freezes, like, cycle their blood actually live a lot longer and they have less diseases. It's a.

[Tim Pool]

It's a fact. It's like it heals your organs. There's. There's. There's a compound in. In higher density in younger people's plasma that they. They've actually started to try it. I was reading about they may want to try and sell it. I don't know if they are selling it, but they're like, we've isolated the. The compound in the plasma that's doing the work and so now you can buy it. So anyway, comes with a listen, listen, listen. Hold on. Libby. Libby. Calling everybody Satanist. I can be sick for five days or, or I can hook up young person's blood into my blood.

[Libby Emmons]

Sure. The old are always willing to sacrifice the young so that they can live just a little longer.

[Tim Pool]

It's capitalism. I will pay them a fair price for their blood.

[Phil Labonte]

I saw something. Speaking of capitalism, I saw something. I saw something about this on the Internet and I was like, look, it's. It's going to be the first chance that Gen Z has to get a money transfer from the boomers to Gen Z and Gen Z. Oh, good God.

[Adam Johnson]

Dude.

[Phil Labonte]

They can actually, you know, pay them okay, air market rate.

[Tim Pool]

Hold on. What if, what if. Hold on.

[Libby Emmons]

Sell your blood, Sell your organs. Sell your.

[Tim Pool]

What if instead of one one blood boy, 100 blood children all giving 1%. So for most of them they notice nothing. You know, to keep them on an

[Adam Johnson]

island or something, a blood farm.

[Libby Emmons]

We should do is we should just hook up a bunch of third world women and have them get impregnated and then just like suck.

[Austin Rogers]

Okay, we already talked about DACA on the subject. Brave new world kind of stuff that is happening in the United States with Chinese billionaires. They're literally renting wombs in the United states to have 50 of international commercial surrogacy is with China.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, do you know it's because. Because in most of the rest of the world, surrogacy is not legal.

[Austin Rogers]

Yeah. Even in like progressive.

[Libby Emmons]

It's not legal in France.

[Tim Pool]

We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show and track the status on this election in Texas. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you have ever met. You can follow me on X and Instagram Timcast. Thanks so much for hanging out, Austin. Do you want to shout anything out? Yeah.

[Austin Rogers]

No. So as I mentioned at the outset, running for Congress in the second district and you know, pointed out. Thank you for reminding me of the website. You know, Visit Rogers for florida.com donate support and looking forward to, you know, earning your vote.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm Adam Johnson. If you have any money left over after you d his campaign, you can donate to mine. I'm running for Manatee County Commissioner. It's a great position. We're going to win. It's Vote AdamJohnson.com you can follow me on Twitter Lectern Leader I'm going to

[Libby Emmons]

ask you what a commissioner does, but first I'm going to pump my podcast again. The Podmillennial. You can go to thepodmillennial.com and find out all of the links where you can listen to the show. It's a really great show. We've had some really great guests so far. You can go back, you can listen to Tim Pool who of course you already know and love. We got into some pretty interesting ideas so you can check that out. And yeah, thank you.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that Remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can check us out allthatremainsonline.com we're going on tour this spring with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes. You can the the tour starts April 29 in Albany and goes through the end of May. You can check out all that Remains music on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

We will see. Oh my bad.

[Austin Rogers]

Oh yes, I'm Carter Banks. Still working on an outro, but you

[Tim Pool]

can follow me everywhere at Carter Banks.

[Austin Rogers]

Follow our label Trash house Records on YouTube.

[Tim Pool]

Thank you so much Adam and Austin for coming.

[Austin Rogers]

Tim.

[Tim Pool]

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