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On this week's Tipping Point NM Paul sits down with former New Mexico Democrat State Senator Jacob Candelaria. Candelaria is the attorney for plaintiffs in the case against Gov. Lujan Grisham's "free" childcare program which was set up by the Gov. without legislative approval on November 1, 2025. Paul and Jacob have a detailed conversation about the case including a thorough analysis of the program's provision of child care funded by New Mexico taxpayers for the benefit of those in the state illegally.

Additionally, in 2019 Candelaria was the sponsor of New Mexico's Energy Transition Act which Paul calls "the worst bill passed during Lujan Grisham's time in office." They discuss the legislation, why it has created the need for PNM to find a suitor (currently Blackstone, a private equity firm), and other flaws. You don't want to miss this conversation about two of the most important policy issues in New Mexico!