How to Be Fruitful in 2025: Embracing a New Season of Purpose & Intentionality

Summary

Podcast Summary: "To My Sisters" Episode Title: How to Be Fruitful in 2025: Embracing a New Season of Purpose & Intentionality
Release Date: January 12, 2025
Hosts: Courtney Daniella Boateng & Renée Kapuku

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Introduction

In the inaugural episode of 2025, To My Sisters hosts Courtney Daniella Boateng and Renée Kapuku dive deep into the theme of embracing new seasons with purpose and intentionality. As they usher in the new year, the sisters reflect on personal growth, the evolution of their podcast, and the strengthening of their sisterhood community.

New Year Reflections

[00:32] Courtney: "Sisters, welcome to 2025."

The hosts kick off the episode by celebrating the arrival of 2025, acknowledging it as both a new year and the final year they will be living together. This marks a significant transition in their personal lives and the podcast's journey.

Season Six: Embracing Change

[02:20] Renee: "Crazy."

Moving into season six, Courtney and Renée discuss the growth and maturity they've achieved over the past five years. They emphasize the prophetic nature of embracing one's current season with grace and wisdom, highlighting their readiness to navigate new challenges and opportunities.

Personal Transitions

[03:40] Courtney: "Oh, I could cry. This is the last year we've been together."

A poignant moment unfolds as the sisters reveal that 2025 will be their last year living under the same roof. This significant personal change underscores their commitment to evolving both individually and as part of the sisterhood.

Building and Sustaining Friendship

[04:25] Renee: "This is the last year we're gonna be living together, friend."

Courtney and Renée reflect on their 16-year friendship, particularly the last five years of living and working together. They credit their enduring bond to shared experiences, mutual support, and unwavering trust in God, which have solidified their sisterhood.

Seasons of Friendship and Growth

[05:12] Renee: "I don't want to liken it too much to a romantic relationship."

The hosts delve into the different seasons of their friendship, from the initial excitement of moving in together to the challenges of maintaining a business partnership. They discuss the importance of trusting God during times of uncertainty and how their collective resilience has borne fruit over time.

Faith and Spirituality in Friendship

[11:26] Courtney: "Sometimes I've been blasted in tongues in my room and that's not till afterwards. I'm like, you don't live with somebody."

The sisters highlight the role of spirituality in their relationship, sharing personal moments of prayer and spiritual support. This deepens their connection and serves as a cornerstone for their mutual growth and accountability.

Podcast Evolution and Maturity

[19:05] Courtney: "We have some gems. 100 from episode one. That's Frenemies."

Courtney and Renée discuss the maturation of their podcast over the years, noting how their wisdom and life experiences have enriched their content. They reflect on past episodes, acknowledging growth in both their personal lives and their ability to engage listeners meaningfully.

Season Six Themes: Refinement and Accountability

[20:31] Renee: "That is so good."

Season six centers around the concepts of refinement and accountability. The hosts plan to explore various life seasons women experience, aiming to provide depth and diverse perspectives through guest appearances. They emphasize the importance of holding each other accountable to foster personal and communal growth.

Building the Global Sisterhood Community

[46:32] Renee: "We are realizing that the sisterhood is truly global."

In response to the evolving needs of their audience, Courtney and Renée introduce their new community platform, The Sisterhood. Designed as a non-hierarchical and accessible space, it aims to unify women globally, offering features like group chats, live streams, and interactive challenges to enhance connection and support.

The Importance of Accountability in 2025

[33:14] Renee: "Accountability is protection."

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing accountability. Renee defines accountability not as criticism but as a protective mechanism that ensures women stay on track with their goals. They use metaphors like midwives in childbirth and bowling to illustrate how accountability supports individuals through their personal and professional aspirations.

[34:46] Courtney: "But it is about accountability being like the role of a midwife."

Courtney and Renée stress that accountability should be delivered with love and support, fostering an environment where women can thrive without fear of judgment. They advocate for building strong, love-based relationships that facilitate genuine growth and mutual encouragement.

Conclusion: Prayers and Invites for 2025

As the episode nears its end, Courtney and Renée offer heartfelt prayers for their listeners:

[53:36] Renee: "My prayer for every sister listening is that you remain steadfast and that you make it with your head held high from the 1st of January to the 31st of December."

[56:42] Courtney: "My prayer for the sisters in 2025 is that you'll be fruitful. I pray that whatever seeds you put into the ground, that God would give you the wisdom and the consistency to nurture it. That it will bear fruit."

The sisters invite listeners to join their expanding community, emphasizing the importance of staying connected and supporting one another through the coming year's challenges and triumphs.

[57:34] Courtney: "We receive that. We receive that."

[59:33] Renee: "Yeah."

[59:34] Courtney: "And we love you. 2025."

Key Takeaways

• Embracing Change: Transitioning through personal and professional changes with grace and intentionality.
• Strengthening Bonds: The importance of long-term friendships grounded in trust, faith, and mutual support.
• Accountability: Viewing accountability as a protective and supportive mechanism rather than as criticism.
• Community Building: Launching a global sisterhood platform to foster deeper connections and provide continuous support.
• Fruitfulness: Encouraging women to nurture their goals and aspirations, ensuring that their efforts bear meaningful fruit throughout the year.

Notable Quotes

• Courtney (00:32): "Sisters, welcome to 2025."
• Renée (02:20): "Crazy."
• Courtney (03:40): "Oh, I could cry. This is the last year we've been together."
• Renée (11:26): "Sometimes I've been blasted in tongues in my room and that's not till afterwards. I'm like, you don't live with somebody."
• Courtney (33:14): "But it is about accountability being like the role of a midwife."
• Renée (53:36): "My prayer for every sister listening is that you remain steadfast and that you make it with your head held high from the 1st of January to the 31st of December."
• Courtney (56:42): "My prayer for the sisters in 2025 is that you'll be fruitful."

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To My Sisters continues to be a beacon of support and inspiration for women navigating the complexities of adulthood and sisterhood. With a blend of personal anecdotes, spiritual insights, and practical advice, Courtney and Renée empower their listeners to embrace each season of life with purpose and intentionality.

Transcript

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[Courtney]

Sisters, welcome to 2025.

[Renee]

No, that's right.

[Courtney]

New Year, new me.

[Renee]

Literally the last year that we're living together.

[Courtney]

Oh, my God. Cry. Hey, what I wrote in January, we're only 30%.

[Renee]

If there's anything that 2024 taught us.

[Courtney]

Is that, ah, the date is gonna rotate. It's fun out here. I'm content with my madness. How did it feel having a boyfriend for the first time? I was like, it didn't feel much different from having a friendship with Renee.

[Renee]

This season for me is really an for women to feel refined.

[Courtney]

We're at season six now. We are at season six. The podcast is indeed four, five years into the game.

[Renee]

Y'all still listening or if you know the women that are coming on the podcast this year, I'm personally excited.

[Courtney]

Somebody say a TMS conference.

[Renee]

Hello and welcome to the To My Sisters podcast. I'm Renee.

[Courtney]

And I'm Courtney. And we are your online sisters and hosts of the To My Sisters podcast.

[Renee]

Now we are all about promoting the wellness, growth and development of a community. Community of sisters across the world.

[Courtney]

And sisters, welcome to 2025. Welcome to a new season indeed. Not only is this season six. Yeah. It is a new season for us. It's a new season for you. And welcome to the sisterhood as you navigate it.

[Renee]

I know that's right.

[Courtney]

The theme of last year's live show was embracing our season. And I really think that's a prophetic word.

[Renee]

Hello.

[Courtney]

It's a word for all of us.

[Renee]

Hello.

[Courtney]

Embrace whatever season you are in with grace, with wisdom, with the perspective of what is God doing what, what's going on in the mess or the blessing, you know? And it's a new season for us. I know it's a new season as To My Sisters, but it's also a new season as friends. And we're literally navigating that in real time.

[Renee]

Crazy.

[Courtney]

So how are you feeling about 2025, my friend?

[Renee]

You know what? I'm feeling optimistic. I'm really, really excited for 2025 because I do feel like it's the culmination of so many preceding seasons. Right. For us individually, personally, but also corporately as a body. Hashtag teammysisters. The fact that we've been able to do this for five years now I think is a testament to God's goodness and also our endurance. And I'm so, so happy that I get to enter 2025 with you, with this sisterhood with everything still intact and more. It feels like almost like a progressive blessing. I'm really, really excited about 2025 because there is a freshness to it, but also a culmination to it in that there's so many things that we've been working towards that we are going to. I'm really excited to actually see the fruits of. So even as it pertains to like tms, the trips that we're going on, the events that we're going to see, the sisterhood, not just the website and on social media, but the actual sisterhood community really come into life. I'm so excited for that and I'm really exc. For us as well, like navigating quite serious life changing life transitions as well. This is literally the last year that we're living together, which is.

[Courtney]

Oh, I could cry. This is the last year we've been together. That's crazy.

[Renee]

Insane because like three years ago we were having the conversation of like, oh, you know, thinking about moving in together or like, what would it be to be able to live with your best friend and having to having actually lived that out for a good three years and seeing it end for such beautiful reasons. Wow. Wow.

[Courtney]

Oh, my gosh. No. This is actually the last year we're gonna be living together.

[Renee]

This is the last year we're gonna be living together, friend.

[Courtney]

You know, when you say it like that, that is crazy. No more TMS house. No more bachelorette pads, no more bachelorette pad.

[Renee]

Now it's gonna be straight to her husband's house, straight to Pat. Ah, shipping us off.

[Courtney]

You know what? It's actually wild. Yeah, it's actually wild. I think one thing that's been, I guess, beautiful about our journey and has made so many people gravitate towards the sisterhood is we've been sharing our sisterhood and our friendship in real time. Like, yes, we have known each other for years, like 16 years. But I think in the last five years, four or five years of doing a business together and then moving in with each other and like having to see each other every day, that's when we've really become sisters. Boy, this isn't just about sisterhood. This is about we are sister sisters, and we've really lasted the test of time. You know, I think one thing that would be interesting to dive into then is what do you think have been the seasons of our friendship and what have you learned in each season that's so interesting?

[Renee]

That's a really good question. I don't want to liken it too much to a romantic relationship. I'm glad that at least now we've beat the allegations. Now, guys, listen, there's two people in the picture now, so you people can mind your business.

[Courtney]

Amen. We thank God.

[Renee]

Hello. But I do think. Not to say that there was necessarily a honeymoon phase, per se, but I think with the freshness and the newness of everything, trying to figure things out, us moving in together, trying to figure out, okay, what's our natural rhythm and cadence in both business and in our friendship, there was almost like a honeymoon period, as it were, where we were just kind of getting to grips with everything. But we were so excited about everything. And that was really nice. I really enjoyed that season because, again, the freshness, the newness, doing this with my friend, pioneering with my friend. We were still in the relatively early stages of tms, so everything was just really cool. I remember when we first moved into. In fact, I remember when we first viewed the apartment that we're currently in. Oh, my gosh. I still have the video.

[Courtney]

The video of us walking into the shower. Walking into the shower. Wow.

[Renee]

This shower. This ensuite is so nice. And just being able to have that experience with you as well was just so special and beautiful. And us literally cobbling together our pennies to figure out how we were going to make it work. Because, remember, back then, we didn't have what we have now to know that it would work out. We were literally going, like, year by year. We were like, the Lord is going to find a way to provide through the work that we're doing. And to actually look back in hindsight and say, wow, in that season of our life, planting that seed and actually now seeing that there's fruits that testify to God's goodness in that season is so, so profound and so, so special to me. So there was definitely that season of just like planting seed together, which was really nice.

[Courtney]

Before you. You move on, actually, I even wanted to touch on that because it's so true. We have literally been journeying with each other in this whole season of just trying to trust God for more. Yeah. And I think it's so. It's so beautiful, actually, to have a friendship with someone who has seen what the seeds look like, what the watering looks like, and now can also see what the fruit looks like as well. And I think a lot of us don't actually have friends that last that long.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Like, last not only that length of time, but last. The last changes in those seasons and that growth. To be able to say, like, yeah, I've watched this thing when the field was empty. And we have literally been having to trust God together to grow these things. Like you said, God brought us together not just in friendship, but also to do a business together, which is a different dimension of pressure, which I think we will definitely talk about. It's a different dimension of pressure. But God brings you together and it's like, wow, now you're trusting God with this person. You are plowing with this person. You are actually doing the work with somebody.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

I think that's so beautiful. Yeah.

[Renee]

Like, we've. Man, Courtney, we've gone through so many seasons. Renee, Together, like, even that in of itself being together. Like, there was a season where we were. Well, we are working together. We are, you know, living together. We are friends together. There was a season where, you know, we were going to church together. Like, there was a lot of things that we were doing together. And I think what I'm really grateful for as well in that period in this season of our life is that we remain steadfast. Because it's not easy in today's day and age to occupy space with another person. Forget romantic relationship, but even in partnership, in friendship and platonic relationships, it's so difficult to occupy space with somebody, to have intimacy with somebody and not fall to pieces or fall apart or, you know, come to loggerheads. And as much as, you know, we may have had our, like, three. I could probably count, like two or three times that we've had minor disagreements. And even then, it's like we've actually never argued.

[Courtney]

Yeah. Still never had an argument.

[Renee]

And we ain't ever go argue.

[Courtney]

Absolutely.

[Renee]

We just ain't ever going. We just not. It's not going to happen.

[Courtney]

Big facts.

[Renee]

But even that. Right. Like, maturing together. I think we also went through a season of maturing together.

[Courtney]

We have grown up.

[Renee]

We have grown up so much. I know life has done us a little dirty in the last three years. I can't lie to you.

[Courtney]

Like I said, pressure.

[Renee]

I was going to say RA has done us dirty. But again, the steadfastness, even in that season, in that, you know, the seasons where, you know, we may have sown seeds and unfortunately, some of those seeds, oh, grow. You know, there's been some times where they were stolen.

[Courtney]

Ah, they were stolen, actually ripped out on the ground.

[Renee]

Really tough times where. Listen, you know, the tough time where you're. You're eating ice and bread. I don't know where this next check is going to come from. I don't know if we're going to.

[Courtney]

Make it next month or ever. I don't know if we can make it. You know, when Adot said you can never make it, literally that's what life was saying in our face. You can never make it.

[Renee]

We have seen some truly tough times. So again, being able to last and hold steadfast. So there's definitely the seed planting season. There was definitely the season of maturation, really where we were maturing as individuals, but also within our friendship, there was the season of lack, where multiple seasons of lack or more where we were lacking something and being able to trust God together and rest in not just God, but also rest in each other and our relationships with God as well. Like, I think there's something so beautiful about the fact that I trust God, but I also trust God in you. And being able to have a friend, genuinely, to be able to have a friend that I know has my back, not just in the natural, but also in the spiritual, genuinely has carried me through. There's been some times where I haven't even been able to utter a prayer. And I'm like, I know, Courtney. I heard that. I heard some prayer storm the day before and I'm hearing some, some old school.

[Courtney]

Sometimes I've been blasted in tongues in my room and that it's not till afterwards. I'm like, you don't live with somebody.

[Renee]

Girl, I love it. Keep it up. I've been loving it.

[Courtney]

This is my favorite track.

[Renee]

My favorite all running up, running up again. No, I adore it because I know that I've got someone that covers me. And it also inspires me to make sure that you're covered. So even in that process of like, yeah, that covering. I feel like we've also gone through seasons of covering where, you know, I ain't gonna lie to you, Courtney. You've had to cover me in some seasons.

[Courtney]

You too, friend.

[Renee]

And there have been multiple periods in our friendship where I can distinctly remember coming to you and being like, Courtney, you're like, what's up? I ain't got nothing to show. Just literally, I don't even have the words to articulate my pain or my grief. But every single time you've been there to hold me, and having a friend that's able to do that, I feel like we've almost gone through an intense period of preparation for the next season ahead, especially given that obviously we have all of these different responsibilities, we're taking up different mantles now. We are. I wouldn't say moving on. I think we're moving together.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And I think it's a beautiful thing. And it's all the seasons that I'm now perceiving, as I look back in hindsight, has really been God's preparation for us to move together into the next season. So those are some of the seasons that come to mind for me.

[Courtney]

Oh, wow. What about me? You know what? I think you've touched on something so beautiful. I think there's something so poetic about God allowing us to enter into our marriage seasons at the same time. And I do actually praise God for it. That actually this was something that he did at the same time for the both of us in that, okay, the same year you're both going to get married. Because I think it would have been extremely hard, like, to be doing it at different times, if that makes sense. And it's not a challenge we wouldn't have rose to the occasion of, but I think it would have been very difficult. And I think there's something so. So merciful and gracious about God being like, no, prepare each other together and then walk into it together. Right. Which is. I remember somebody asking, like, oh, you know, you were single for seven years, like, how did it feel having a boyfriend for the first time? I was like, it didn't feel much different from having a friendship with Renee. And not in the sense that it's the same thing. It's a big fact.

[Renee]

That's me, Pearl. In the same romantic.

[Courtney]

In the sense that I think a lot of what I'm discovering as I'm learning more about men.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Scary. As I'm learning more about men, or let me not even say men. The man I'm with.

[Renee]

Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that one.

[Courtney]

Is that when doing, like, this romantic relationship, preparing for marriage thing, it is a high level of friendship. High level of friendship. Friendship. And really, I think as women, when we're being coached to be a wife, we're often not told about becoming a good friend, a friend in hard seasons, easy seasons, a friend when your friend is not the best, but you still have to be a friend. And what covenant looks like, when it's manifest as friendship and companionship and genuine partnership. And like you said, covering. I think we don't talk about that. We talk about it from the lens of, oh, you'll be his wife and you'll be his helper. But I think that there's a dimension of a romantic relationship which is very unique to romance. Right. Like, it's the intimacy. It's the, you know, he's different from me utterly, in a. In a beautiful way and in a scary way sometimes, but also a lot of the foundation of it, those friendships.

[Renee]

Exactly.

[Courtney]

And if you don't become a good friend, it's going to be hard for you to be a good wife. If you don't become a good friend, it's going to be hard for you to be a good mother. And I think God allowed us to go through building our foundations of character, building our foundations of faith, building our foundations of friendship with each other before he was like, okay, cool. And now go on to a new. A new training ground, you know, of marriage and of motherhood or whatever is. Is in our future. And I genuinely am so grateful that I got to do that training with you because I do think it teased out of both of us, the best of us, it teased out the Christ in us. And I think one thing we don't talk enough about is how refining friendships are and how that refining fire is worth staying in.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Because it's easy to feel the heat and be like, I'm gonna just jump out.

[Renee]

I'm just.

[Courtney]

Because you can dispose of a friendship real easy. I was doing a. Doing a live with a friend recently and an Instagram live. I don't spend much time on this. Maybe 2025 will be different, but, yeah.

[Renee]

Maybe we're changing our stories.

[Courtney]

Yeah, we're changing our stories, man. In 2025, I did. Sorry. Last year, I did a live, and literally, I was saying how for a lot of us, as soon as friendships become awkward or inconvenient or whatever, we just get rid of them. Because people won't. People will judge you for getting a divorce. They won't judge you for burning a bridge. Yeah, they won't judge you. They won't. They won't. And when I say judge you for getting a divorce, I mean, like, people will intervene. When you're saying you want to divorce your husband, this is the last resort. What do you mean?

[Renee]

What do you mean?

[Courtney]

Do we need to pray? Do you guys need to just separate for a little bit? How can we, you know, intervene? How can we be counseled. Do you need a third party? Let's go to counseling. Let's do everything we need. Remember the key.

[Renee]

You.

[Courtney]

Let's. Let's. Let's talk about everything to try and keep this marriage together.

[Renee]

Right.

[Courtney]

But as soon as you and your friend say, oh, our friendship is ending, no matter how long it's for, people are going to be like, oh, that's a sad story. Oh, but, you know, you'll heal. You'll find a new friend. And it's like we allow people to let go of the covenant of friendship so easily, forgetting that covenants are covenants. They ain't easy to break. They are not easy to break. And so when you have a friendship like ours, and I'm not saying every friendship is like ours, I don't think every friendship runs deep. And that's good, because this takes a lot of work and commitment. But when you do identify that God has brought you a sister, like a friend that sticks closer than a brother. Yeah. When God has brought you that kind of friendship, you don't just let it go easily and you fight. And that fight produces strength and endurance and all the other things that make us more like Jesus. And I'm so glad that genuinely, our friendship has been a discipleship tool for me and my faith and for us in general. And I think even looking at the growth of us on this podcast. We started this podcast when we were, like, 23 years old. I'm sure if you go back to the first episode, we even sound immature. Oh, we did, but we had debts.

[Renee]

But you know what? We have some gems.

[Courtney]

We have some gems. 100 from episode one. That's Frenemies.

[Renee]

Yeah, you can win. Like, yeah, I'm supporting him, rooting for you, sis. And all this kind of nonsense that the sis. Sis is actually nonsense. Those. Those kind of people, like, those people that have, you know, those kind of sentiments. Right. You can't go past them. You can win up to their level or just below, but you can't go past them.

[Courtney]

That's why y'all are rocking with us. Episode one, Frenemies. We came. Like all the other podcasts. I love it. But even in our journey, we've been able to do four years of podcasting, and every episode, our wisdom gets richer because our life exchange experience gets harder.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Richer, deeper, and just more mature. And it's nice to have matured with you and also see your maturity. Not that you were an immature person before, but I think it's so beautiful to know that somebody's Being pruned the same way you're being pruned. And so there are some things that make me think, okay, God, like, you'd be beating me up if I did that. Like, you, the conviction would be crazy. But then also to know when I come to speak to you about that, you're like, oh, my gosh, God is convicting me. I'm same thing. I'm dealing with the same thing. It's like, wow, at least we don't have to go through the refiner's fire alone. We're actually in the furnace with someone.

[Renee]

It's giving Shadrach me Shadra.

[Courtney]

There's a fourth man inspired Fourth man in the fire. Facts, facts, facts. But we're at season six now. The podcast is indeed four, five years into the game.

[Renee]

Y'all still listening.

[Courtney]

We ain't even got podcast mics. Now we have lapels.

[Renee]

Lapels, Lapels.

[Courtney]

Maturity.

[Renee]

It's giving growth.

[Courtney]

Yeah. Because get rid of the podcast mics. Like, we ate little. You might see it a few times. I was about to say the backup.

[Renee]

But if you do see it, don't judge us.

[Courtney]

Don't judge us. But you do.

[Renee]

It's good to stay humble. It's good to stay humble for about a couple episodes. If you see lapel after that, if you see even handheld, just know that there's things that are going on in the background.

[Courtney]

You might just be shouting on the soapbox. But genuinely, like, what are you looking forward to? And what can the girls expect as well for season six?

[Renee]

Yeah, that is great. So I think for season six, obviously, our, like, season is all about embracing our seasons. I think the girls can really look forward to real depth. I think really exploring the different seasons that we experience as women and the fact that we've also tag teamed with an array of incredible women within our community as well. And I want to actually take this moment to say thank you to everyone that chipped in, watched our guest episodes. We were trying something new, and it really did reap some incredible fruits. And it was good to have the feedback, but also the response from our listeners and that they actually enjoyed this because quite transparently, we were a bit nervous. We're like, oh, we're introducing all of these new voices. We're trying new things with this season. We're trying to see what sticks, what makes sense. And you guys kept rocking with us and you actually enjoyed it and fed back. So we appreciate that so much. And I think it's funny that you're speaking about refinement within our relationship. Because I think that's what season six is set to bring, a refinement. Because one thing about life and life cycles is you're always going to go through the cycle, but there are better ways for you to navigate it. And I feel that season six is an opportunity to help women prepare to better navigate their seasons. We are all about, and we are in the business of helping women refine themselves through their seasons. There will be. Listen, we're starting at the beginning of the year, baby. We in the cold of winter, right? And then we move on to spring, and then we move on to summer, autumn, and then we're back into winter again. The difference is that this year, we're going to be doing that with you. And that's what I see season six as an opportunity to be. To do, to really hold hands with the sisters that we have been riding with and rocking with throughout, you know, the TMS journey, but going season by season in more ways than one. And I think that that's actually reflected in all of the other things that we're doing as well. Right. So if y'all ain't already heard the news, but, you know, hashtag the sisterhood, the actual community platform that we have, which is all about community, but also holding women accountable in these different seasons, we've been very, very intentional about setting up the natural cycle of women going through these seasons, going through this year, so that we can do that with you hand in hand. So I think this season for me is really an opportunity for women to feel refined, having stories and diversity of thought by women who are diverse and thoughtful. We have all. If you know, the women that are coming on the podcast this year, I'm personally excited and having been a part of the conversations live and also being there with you, oh, my gosh. Also, Courtney, the wisdom. I'm so excited in season six. Wait, wait, Season six, yo. I don't ever want to become familiar with the gift that you have when it comes to imparting wisdom, because I think even reflecting on some of the episodes that are coming out, I've really seen your processing. I've really seen how you grapple with things that you genuinely think will impact women and the way that you articulate yourself.

[Courtney]

Friends. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

[Renee]

Let me land the plane on this one. You have your time. The way that you articulate yourself. Courtney, I've seen you. I've seen you talk, but I'm really hearing you speak. Like, I'm really hearing it. And the way that it resonates really like, shows that you've been in your prayer closet. You've actually been reading that thing they call the word. No, no, you've been reading it. You've been reading it, which is good. You've been listening to it too, clearly, but you've also been living it. And I think what I'm very excited for in season six, actually, is to see that in real time as well. Like, it's. It's. It's been a beautiful thing. So, yeah, I'm excited for the refinement. I'm excited for the guests and the women. I'm excited for how we are going to help steward women through their seasons. And I'm also excited personally to continue.

[Courtney]

To see you thrive in this season.

[Renee]

Because, yeah, the wisdom, but also the love that emanates from you when you speak to women, both in person, but also, obviously on the podcast. You know what I'm saying? Y'all should watch Courtney. She's speaking. I'm like, whoa. And I love that you even mentioned that our friendship has been a site of discipleship for the both of us, genuinely, when I say you are one of my biggest inspirations, like, I really. Aww, Renee, girl, come on. I'm trying to get this all done in the first episode so we ain't got it. You don't have to nonsense. But to really say that I have a friend that disciples me, that when you speak, I listen, because there's a whole bunch of nonsense. No, no, no. There is. There's a whole bunch of nonsense. And unfortunately, we are but one radio station. We are but one podcast in a sea of arrant nonsense. Even as we're stepping into 2025, I know that there's people that's got break they mess from 2024 into 2025. And in fact, as we are speaking, there are people that are giving birth to more mess. Like, it's even a new. It's a new level of nonsense. I'm always surprised by how each year brings a different brand of ridiculousness. So we are really attempting. No. A different brand of ridiculousness.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Yeah. I'm really excited for season six to be that opportunity to be a safe haven for women, to be an oasis for women. That's what I'm really excited about for this season.

[Courtney]

I love.

[Renee]

How about you, friend?

[Courtney]

I love that. Well, first of all, you are one of my biggest inspirations, too. I was telling this to Renee the other day. Sometimes, you know how LinkedIn shows you who searches you? I'm actually the biggest searcher of Renekapiki.

[Renee]

Nah, guys, please.

[Courtney]

Edm, that's what Masters at Education.

[Renee]

I never used those three words, those.

[Courtney]

Three letters very much.

[Renee]

That is.

[Courtney]

So I literally stay on Renee's LinkedIn page. Why? I'm her biggest fan. I scroll through her curriculum.

[Renee]

No, stop it, please.

[Courtney]

And I say, what an educated woman. What an accomplished babe.

[Renee]

Your Instagram. Let's relax.

[Courtney]

You already had your time. Thank you very much. What a cv. What a body of work. What a woman. No, literally, like, the other day I was on your LinkedIn and I thought, how is this my friend? I think there's something so beautiful about being able to do life with someone who, even if you weren't their friend, you'd be their biggest fan. Like, genuinely, I would still be following you and, like, shouting and tooting your horn. Because I think. I mean, yeah, I have matured a lot. I've matured in the gifts that I have, but so have you, in the sense of. Oh, your operational gifts, your administrative gift. Listen, your husband is lucky to have you.

[Renee]

He is.

[Courtney]

He is lucky to have. In the sense that, like, I've seen how you literally take people's thoughts, their ideas, and you make it into something better. Like, you know how you bake. You're literally that. Like, you take flour, eggs, sugar, butter, and you make it into something so beautiful. And I think that's what God brought to you and me.

[Renee]

Raw materials.

[Courtney]

Just raw timber. With the splits.

[Renee]

Not with the splits. If you want it. Let's just take that.

[Courtney]

Facts, facts. And proceed with caution. And I think you've. You've helped refine me into one of the most beautiful things. And so I really appreciate you and I think that that's. It's so beautiful to have complimentary gifts. I think so. So many times with friendship, we're searching for people who are just like us, but actually the blessing comes through people who are completely different. Absolutely. Right. But have those same core anchoring values. And I think my. My hope, my prayer, and what I'm most looking forward to about 2025 for the sisterhood is one. The actual sisterhood, the community that we are building, the digital community, which you can become a member of, but also the events and more in person stuff and more intimate in person things. I'm very excited for that. I'm very excited for that. I'm similarly really looking forward to the guests we have. I think, having done some guest recordings before this one. I really value how protective we were about this platform and about not giving the mic to just anybody because this really is a poor that we do. And I've been saying this thing about how conversations are impartations, and you don't want people to receive what you do not want them to become.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And I think every woman who we've brought on this podcast, it would be an honor to be like them in some kind of dimension and way. And so I think it's so lovely to see them coming and telling their stories and sharing their wisdom and everything they've learned from every season of their life on the podcast and just creating a space where women can have thoughtful conversations and vulnerable conversations. So I'm really excited for that. But I think for 2025 in general, I think the reason why the sisterhood is important and even these conversations are important, is we're navigating seasons and really being refined. I love that you said refined based on the goals that we may have had but laid down.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Right. Like, there's something that I heard recently about. Like, we always talk about. About how God's going to do a new thing.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

But sometimes the new thing God does is taking you back to the old thing that you didn't trust that he'd be able to do.

[Renee]

That's good.

[Courtney]

And so I think a lot of us are going back to old things. We're going back to old dreams, things that we started, things that we've always wanted to do, and now we're truly believing God can bring life to these dry bones. Right. And he can do something with that idea. He can do something with that relationship. He can do something with your family. He can do something with your health. He can actually do a new thing with the old thing. The things that we've kind of disregarded because they've gotten dusty and we've laid them to the side. But I think what God has really shown me is that he's doing something with our hope. Like, in whatever season you're in, can you actually have hope? Can you have hope that God will be able to use anything, the dusty broken thing and also the brand new thing to do what he always planned to do. And I think in that comes trust, in that comes dedication as well to doing the work. And I think what we're going to see this year is all these things we've been chatting about, like, all these things of all the woman you're becoming and being healed. And I'm in my healing era, and I'm gonna. I think this year the question is, are you actually going to do the work?

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And are you going to see the fruit. Because we've been talking a lot about who we want to be and who we should be and what we shouldn't be. But the question is, but what have you become?

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[Courtney]

What have you actually become? Right? And I think so many of us know what we ought to do, but we don't do it right. There's something about discerning the times and seasons and knowing what you ought to do. But do you do what you ought to do? And I think a lot of us struggle. It's like what Paul talks about. I know what I should do, but my flesh does not want to do it. So literally, God help me, to do the things that I know I need to do but I don't want to do. And I think that's why the sisterhood is so important, because that's the accountability for whether you will do the things you ought to do in this season to become the woman that you actually want to be. And that's the tension I think most of us are going to feel. Is this going to be another year of just chatting it, like talking it, talking around it, dreaming it, or is it actually going to be a year of doing it?

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

So in that same vein, why do you think in 2025, our main thing that we keep returning back to in all our conversations and in all our thoughts is accountability?

[Renee]

I Think accountability is something we keep coming back to because number one, we need it but we understate it so, so much. Right. We often think, you know, I've, I've put my goal, I've written it down, I said I'm going to do it, so I'm going to do it. I think of the word accountability and think of the words, the prefix, right, account, right. It is the idea of giving an account of things. It's the idea of now having to prove that I said what I said and I'll do what I'll do.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And I think we need to actually keep coming back to accountability because we don't have enough of it. We don't bake enough of it into our plans. We just rely on our willpower at the particular moment when we birth our dreams. Not realizing that accountability is almost the midwife that ensures that things go smoothly and we actually end up birthing the things that we said that we were going to be.

[Courtney]

That is so good.

[Renee]

Accountability makes sure that we stay on the straight and narrow because we have to give account at multiple times in the journey and not just at the end. So oftentimes when we're thinking about goals and like creating the vision for where we want to go, we think about the end. Rarely do we think about the middle. And accountability is the mechanism in the middle that will get us to the end.

[Courtney]

So good.

[Renee]

So accountability and especially for women as well because I know that we got a bad reputation in these streets that, you know, women don't like to take accountability for things.

[Courtney]

So interesting.

[Renee]

You know what I'm saying?

[Courtney]

You know what it is though? I think because oftentimes the way people navigate accountability with women is not really accountability, it's just a tearing down. It is, it's just criticism and that's not actually what accountability is. Accountability isn't me dragging you for filth, isn't me saying as a woman you should do. That's not accountability, baby. That's just dragging my name to the bird.

[Renee]

And for no good reason.

[Courtney]

For no good reason.

[Renee]

Do you want me to win or not?

[Courtney]

That's the thing. Accountability is not only tearing down, it's also building up. Yes. Sorry to interrupt.

[Renee]

Oh girl, this is a free flowing conversation. You know when we speaking we don't be doing. You guys are even lucky. That's another thing we've actually matured in cuz sometimes we'd be having conversations and another.

[Courtney]

Yeah, we have and we haven't even.

[Renee]

Finished the first thing that either of.

[Courtney]

Us have brought up and also interrupting each other with really mature. And we'll never forget seeing a couple comments under our ear YouTube videos. I read them. So about Cody just loves to interrupt. Renee. Guys, I took that one personal. I took that one personal. I said, I just like to talk. But you know what? Let me give my friend room. So I would like to say pat on the back to me. I've learned to twist this lip and shut up.

[Renee]

Sorry. Do you know how funny that is?

[Courtney]

I saw it one too many times and you know, it's painful when you don't just see it under the main episode. You also see it on the YouTube shorts.

[Renee]

No, stop, don't kill me.

[Courtney]

They said she just too much. I said let me just shut. Let me just muzzle. Muzzle for it.

[Renee]

I was not saying don't let them muzzle. God has given you the gift of speaking.

[Courtney]

Speak up.

[Renee]

Let the demons shiver. No, but even in that there's been the maturity.

[Courtney]

Right?

[Renee]

But yeah, accountability, it's. It's so key. And I think you raised an important point in that it's not just about the accountability itself, but also the delivery of that. That accountability and who we are allowing to hold us accountable. Because it's not everybody that will hold you accountable. Which is why the sisterhood is so important and so beautiful to me. Because you are being held accountable by people that love you.

[Courtney]

You. Yeah.

[Renee]

Can you really hold somebody accountable if you actually don't want to see them win? There's so many people that say, oh yeah, in the name of accountability, I'm holding you account to your words because you actively want to see my destruction. You actively, you literally want to see me lose. You really think I'm going to be held accountable by some random stranger on the Internet that actually probably hates me, like genuinely has come with no serious. There will be something. Oh, I want to hold you accountable for the fact that you said this on this time, at this time on the Internet.

[Courtney]

Baby, that's an accusation.

[Renee]

That's the best. Prove it and then they will bring up receipts, unfortunately. But I think accountability is really finding community, whether it be in the ones or in the manys. Right. Finding people that genuinely love you, that want to see you win. The desire is very important. The intention is really important. I'm not going to be reading myself for filth. I'm not going to be accounting anything to you. If we haven't first established some form of intimacy, I need to know that you are invested in me and then you can hold me accountable. And I think we've Spoken about this on some of our past episodes. Right. This idea of intimacy and the importance of having love, intimacy, investment within a relationship before somebody can feel comfortable enough to hold you accountable and even give you criticism that you need.

[Courtney]

Right.

[Renee]

And I think we've also spoken about the importance of padding, cushioning. Not even that, necessarily, but more so loving.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Right. Like delivering things with love. Right. And I think the reason why we are going to keep on coming up against this term accountability, community accountability and all these kind of good stuff is because as we go through different seasons, as we go through that the middle of the year, we're going to. Going to need accountability. We're going to need midwives, we're going to need the mechanism through which things can be birthed. We need that protection. Accountability is protection.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Accountability is basically somebody protecting you on your way to the top. Right. It's. It's almost like it. It kind of reminds me of, you know, when you go bowling.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And you got the, like, things on the side to make sure that you actually.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

You get your ten pin.

[Courtney]

Well, that's. Wait, as in, like the barriers that come up. That's for the week. Yeah, that's for the week.

[Renee]

But that's the thing, though. Many of us, when we start, we're weak. Many of us are very, very bad at hitting our target. Some of us don't even be getting one pin when we go bowling. Accountability.

[Courtney]

That's not nice.

[Renee]

No, but it's the truth. And I've been there personally. Same.

[Courtney]

I was there recently, actually, but I.

[Renee]

Also won about bowling game. There you go.

[Courtney]

It's a humbling experience.

[Renee]

And if anything, when you're first starting out, that's when you need accountability the most, because you are so used to a dysfunctional way of operating that it's harder for you to actually hit your target. Which means that the protective layering of accountability ensures and helps you to hit your target and get your 10 pins or at least get one or two or three, you know, at least in the direction of where you want to go. Right. So I think, especially as we're starting the year, accountability is really important because that's when we're the most vulnerable. That's when we're the most wayward. That's when we're the most inconsistent. Oh, people will fool you and say that January is the time. New me, new year, new me, all that kind of stuff. What makes you think that on the 1st of January you will become a magician and completely transform your nature and your character?

[Courtney]

Boy, Rome was not built in a day.

[Renee]

And your character, poor character traits that led you to the place where you currently need accountability to that wasn't built in a day. So a lot of those things will need days. We'll need things. We'll need people, we'll need accountability to start to unlearn, to start to unravel, to start to unfix. So I think accountability operates like a bowling alley in some respects, that it's that protective mechanism that ensures that you hit your target. And the more experienced you become, the more you get used to being able to, you know, get your 10 pins, the more we can kind of pull back on the accountability. But there's still the lanes. There's still the opportunity for people to hold you account. There's still people that are there to protect you. And I think the biggest thing, even in that bowling analogy is you're surrounded by people that actually want you to win.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

So, yeah, that's what I would say about. I would love to hear what you think about accountability in 2025.

[Courtney]

I think you a bag on the money because I think we do associate accountability with negative things. Yeah, negative. A negative reaction. People criticizing us, like, pulling us up in a very harsh way, a disciplinary way. However, I think what you said that was so beautiful. It's about accountability being like the role of a midwife. And even that idea of a midwife, like, is, accountability is for the middle. Is for the middle. That middle. There's something about the middle of the year. Because when you start, like you said, we all, New year, new me.

[Renee]

It's easy.

[Courtney]

I've got my vision board. I went to all the events.

[Renee]

Check me out.

[Courtney]

It's a new year.

[Renee]

I've got my journal.

[Courtney]

I know my goals. I'm focused. I've got my vision board. And then at the end, sometimes you can remember, hey, what I wrote in January. We're only 30%. Let's keep going. Let's finish the year strong. And that's why we even have the emergence of, like, last winter, the winter arc.

[Renee]

Winter arc.

[Courtney]

Do you. I mean, like, let's get back on this thing. But there's something about the middle, the middle. We don't have urgency in the middle. The middle makes us forget because it lulls us into thinking we have more time. The year hasn't ended, but also, it's fun out here. I'm content with my madness. It's actually fine. Like, my inconsistency is fine. I'll pick it up at a later, later stage. And then we procrastinate or we just fall off and it's all right. You know, I think the beautiful thing about that analogy of it being like a midwife is everyone's always excited when they're pregnant. They're always looking forward to their due date, can't wait for this baby to be here. They're also thinking about what's it going to be like to raise a child. So they're preparing to end well as well. But the moment you want to give up is probably when you're in the labor room. And that's why you need a midwife. You need someone who will keep you accountable to keep, Keep pushing. Because although you started this journey and you've prepared yourself to go into the next season, well, if you give up here at this transitionary moment of actually birthing the baby, there is going to be nothing to step into.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

There is not going to be a next season that you've prepared for. That next season is going to look very different. It's going to look like grief.

[Renee]

Oh, man.

[Courtney]

So I need to hold you accountable to not giving up in the laboring process. And I think a lot of us give up in the laboring process because it's laborious. Do you get what I mean?

[Renee]

Like, comes from the Latin root of.

[Courtney]

Labor, which means working like a dog. Which means working like a dog. And the work is tiring.

[Renee]

It's so tiring.

[Courtney]

Working is tiring. Labour is tiring. And I think the sisterhood this year and the reason why this community platform we've built is all about accountability, is it's a community, a global community of midwives who will not let you give up whilst you're in labor.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Whilst you're doing the work of birthing. The goals which you pen down but now need to manifest. I can't let you give up in the laboring.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

I can't let you get up, give up when you're pushing. I can't let you give up just because you're screaming. And also I need to find a way to also soothe you.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Because midwives aren't just about, go, go, push, push, push. It's also about, you need an epidural.

[Renee]

Exactly.

[Courtney]

Can I make you a drink?

[Renee]

Breathe. Ah. Rest, rest.

[Courtney]

Relax. Lie down. Do you get what I mean? Like, it's also the soothing voice that sisterhood brings when you're in that laboring process that helps you to know you will survive this. Yes. This is painful, but let's remember the goal we're trying to Push out as well. Let's remember the beauty of it. Aren't you ready to be a mommy? You know, aren't you? And it's not. It's not just about physical childbirth. It is about everything else you're trying to build. Aren't you trying to be a business owner? Aren't you trying to be a wife? Aren't you trying to be in. Aren't you trying to be £100 lower? Courtney? Yes, I am. But the labor be to. Which is why you need a Renee who wakes up at 5am and is like, let me put on my sense Centipede jacket and go to the gym.

[Renee]

I despise you. I despise.

[Courtney]

I have to drag it in some way looking like a mission Russian bullet.

[Renee]

Keep mentioning it. Because me, I want to be sponsored. I want that jacket, every color, 100%. A navy blue, a ruby red.

[Courtney]

We love to see it. So hopefully this is the year with the sisterhood and with the accountability choice that I manifest my skinny body.

[Renee]

I want to be slippery.

[Courtney]

Anyway, these are journal prompts. These are all things for my journal. Relax.

[Renee]

Actually hilarious if you see one challenge yet. We're doing the step challenging something something facts.

[Courtney]

That's the thing actually, on the sisterhood, on our community platform, you can actually join challenges.

[Renee]

Yes.

[Courtney]

You know what I think would actually be good to jump into though, Just why we decided to build this community now and why it's not like us having a patreon.

[Renee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess to give a bit of context, I think we've mentioned this either in person, in like events and stuff, or on the podcast generally. We are a, as much as possible, a non hierarchical community. It's really important for us that women that we are trying to engage with, we are trying to support women that are on this glowing and growing journey with us, have access to free and accessible content. And guys, we have thought about it. We've prayed about it. Listen, like I said in previous episodes, if we wanted to be scam artists, we would have done that a long time ago. I'm telling you. We would be in Tulum, specifically as we speak, and the podcast would be closed because we would have harvested your body. But we're still here and we wanted to continue that journey of making sure that obviously our content is free and accessible. Accessible. But we're still able to power a lot of the social impact work that we do. We are still able to give back to the sisters and we're still able to actually have a space that defines a Sister. Right. Because I think for us, TMS has been a really great sentiment. Right. The sentiment of being a sister. There are people that listen to our content, that buy our books, that engage with just TMS more generally. But the sisterhood is really a place, a hub and a platform form where sisters can gather. Right. We've had the events that we've. We've done in. In previous times and whatnot. We've had organic communities that arise from that, and we've, you know, tried different things. But I think for us, this was such a. A great timing for something like this because a, we still exist, which is a good thing. You know, people be starting communities and then, you know, about two, three years in. What happened to that drop off the face of that discord? You had that telegram, you know, all those apps. Yeah, all of those apps that people be using. I'm like, where's that now? That's not slack. Everybody is the big WhatsApp group that everyone. You know what I'm saying? We really wanted an actual space that the sisters could own too. And I think the sisterhood does that. Right. There's a certain degree of ownership that people have over their own profiles, you know, where they live, the information that they share, their capacity to engage with the different things that we have as part of the platform. We really wanted a central hub and a central space that was ours as well. So heaven forbid anything happens to any of our platforms, right. YouTube goes down or TikTok is, you know, sold to somebody or is closed down, or, you know, the Russians, you.

[Courtney]

Know, something like that.

[Renee]

You know what? The Russians get a bad rep in every single space. And it's a real shame because I love being the Russians. They're so good people. In every Marvel movie, it's always the Russians that are bad people.

[Courtney]

That's true.

[Renee]

Agendas, propaganda, if you will. But, yeah, we really wanted a space to be able to do that, that we're able to really give back and invest in each other as well as a sisterhood as a community and something that's also global as well, because I think we've come into the increasing realization that the sisterhood is truly global. Right. We have sisters in the United Kingdom, of course, where we're based. Hopefully not for long. Father in heaven, let this be our most international year yet. God, may our feet touch the sands of overseas. But yeah, we're realizing that this concept of sisterhood, this identity of sisterhood transcends borders, right? We have the South Africa's. Oh, and you ladies stand up every time.

[Courtney]

I love it.

[Renee]

Per Moore.

[Courtney]

This might actually be out by the time we've announced. Oh, yeah, but we're coming back to South Africa for a live show.

[Renee]

Yeah, we are that part.

[Courtney]

And then Ghana in March.

[Renee]

And can I just say, ladies, around the time that we're doing the live show, it will probably be my birthday. So if you want to wish me a happy birthday, it's already very happy because I'll be in South Africa. That's my plan. I'm hoping that we can do this annually so I can find myself in South Africa mysteriously, every single live show. But. But that's happening. We also.

[Courtney]

My birthday is three months after that, so just bring my gifts in advance.

[Renee]

There you go. And what we will hopefully pray to do is ourselves in the States for Courtney's birthday. That's my prayer.

[Courtney]

That's always my prayer.

[Renee]

Oh, if we can find our way to New York.

[Courtney]

Especially that springtime May in New York is always beautiful.

[Renee]

Or even la like something like that. Anyways, be my sugar mama father in history. I come to you as your humble s. If anybody would like to sponsor Courtney, and by extension me, in fact, sponsor me S.A. what's the Courtney. So she can think it's rocky, but yeah, we're realizing that the sisterhood is increasingly global and we want to facilitate global connections. Some of the work that we are interested in doing this year is truly global and it will take global powering. It's not just a community in the uk, but it's really a community. They're really communities within a massive community. And having the space, the forum, the technical capabilities to do that, I think is why we chose to do it now and choose to do it in the way that we've done it.

[Courtney]

And also getting to provide people with value that isn't just content as well. Like, you actually get connection. You get the group chats you get. So I know last year we tried TMS hot takes. Guys.

[Renee]

We can't.

[Courtney]

Guys. It actually drained our whole energy. It was too much. But we can do a live stream. Yeah, right. We can do something a bit lower production, but great value and really good.

[Renee]

Fun, like just kicking it with your sister and also Twitter talk to you.

[Courtney]

Guys in real time. Because that's something that we can't always do. Exactly. Because with our main Sunday episodes, there's a lot of pre production that we do.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

You know, in our Boss Baby era systems and all that. And then, you know, even when we did record hot takes in real time, we can't actually interact with you guys in real time. So a live stream would be great to actually get to talk to the sisters, answer your questions, live dilemmas, stuff like that. And like, just be a really interactive space. It is for a really affordable price as well, because like you said, we're not a hierarchical, like community, but we also exist within a capitalistic society, which means we do need money to function. We actually do. And by the grace of God, this is the year that we'll do TMS full time.

[Renee]

Hallelujah.

[Courtney]

That is our prayer. But we want to deliver value. We, that's our purpose, that is our mission. And so if you have ever just loved what we're doing, you love the philanthropic aspect, you love just what we get to do as a sisterhood and you want to support us, please, please, please, please, please just buy a membership. Yeah, join the sisterhood, become a member, buy a membership, or, you know, purchase a membership for someone, sign up. It's really affordable, it's really good, and literally anyone in the world can join. We have tested it with the beta group and we've just done that testing and it's been great actually, to refine the platform. So join, join, join, join. Become a member, man. Become a Sister for real. Become a Sister for real. Well, 2025 is set to be a good year.

[Renee]

It is.

[Courtney]

And if there's one prayer you have to the Sisters, for the sisters, what is it?

[Renee]

That's a really good question. One prayer. I think the first thing that comes to mind for me is actually reflected in our friendship, which is to remain steadfast. I think as we are in the business of embracing our seasons, this year, there will be a lot of changes for everyone. And I think if there's anything that 2024 taught us is that, ah, the things can change.

[Courtney]

Yeah, things can change.

[Renee]

The boat is going to rock and you can't overthink yourself into a perfect life. You can't manufacture with all of the habits and productivity and I'm getting myself together. There are certain things that will come your way this year that will be hard to navigate. What you need to do this year is to remain steadfast.

[Courtney]

That's so good.

[Renee]

Stay the course. Stand in the boat. Hang on.

[Courtney]

Amen.

[Renee]

Because even the things that you will experience and go through that are tough, you will overcome. Don't let them overcome you. You will find yourself on the other side of that storm. Because storms only last for so long.

[Courtney]

Amen.

[Renee]

So my prayer for the sisters, genuinely, in 2025, you are going to be a Winner, everyone. Oh, yeah. Prosperity, long life. You know, the. The classic birthday prayers that people get. Right? All of them. I pray that for you. But my real prayer for every sister listening is that you remain steadfast and that you make it with your head held high from the 1st of January to the 31st of December.

[Courtney]

Amen.

[Renee]

That's my prayer.

[Courtney]

Amen. We receive that. We receive that.

[Renee]

My prophet, my prayer.

[Courtney]

My. My very own apostle. Yeah, your apostle.

[Renee]

You are actually an apostle.

[Courtney]

Oh, I don't know about that. No, I'm a child. I'm just a child of God.

[Renee]

There we go. Classic.

[Courtney]

Anyways, my prayer for the sister. My prayer for the sisters in 2025 is that you'll be fruitful. I pray that whatever seeds you put into the ground, that God would give you the wisdom and the consistency to nurture it. That it will bear fruit. I pray that it will be good fruit. And I pray for fruitfulness because again, I don't just want us to be. And this is especially for myself. I can't even lie to you. I don't want to be a woman who talked about doing this, being that, accomplishing so and so or that is in the world saying, you should be this, you should be that. And I don't have that fruit forbid, you know, And I have not bear fruit. And I cannot attest to what these principles and that wisdom produces. I want to be a woman who is fruitful. And I pray that I am a missed women who are fruitful.

[Renee]

Amen to that.

[Courtney]

That we will actually have the fruit to prove that sisterhood works. The fruit to prove that wisdom is profitable. The fruit to prove that God is good.

[Renee]

Amen.

[Courtney]

I just pray that we are fruitful.

[Renee]

Amen.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

In.

[Courtney]

In every way. In every way. And that's not even just in great things.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

That's also in character and the bad things, you know. So that's my prayer for 2025. That would be fruitful women. And if you want to be in this journey and in this community of other fruitful for women.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Join the sisterhood.

[Renee]

It's about time.

[Courtney]

And also subscribe to this YouTube channel. Let's not play games. It's 2025. Don't play with your life. Let's be serious.

[Renee]

At this stage, you miss five years.

[Courtney]

Get with the program. But also rate us five stars.

[Renee]

Yeah. Oh, five. Five for five.

[Courtney]

Rate us five for five years. Let's go. We're hurtling. Our fifth anniversary will be in November 2025, and we are planning something big by the Grace of God. Somebody say a TMS conference.

[Renee]

I held it in the secret place.

[Courtney]

But yeah, guys, many, ah, many are the plans in a man's heart. But honestly, we pray that God would establish whatever he wants not just for the sisterhood, but also for your life. So plug into what we're doing. You can join the sisterhood on our website to my sisters dot com. But you can also follow oomysisterhood on literally every social media platform to keep up to date with what we're doing. We also have new philanthropic projects that are coming out this year that we're going to be working on and raising money for as a sisterhood. You guys know we're all about gender equity out here. So if you want to help us change the world for women, literally, not just on a personal level, but in on an economic level as well, please stay plugged into what we're doing by following us at to my sisterhood literally everywhere.

[Renee]

Everywhere. And of course you can follow our individual journeys to start your year.

[Courtney]

Right.

[Renee]

How about you follow my best friend and of course come and follow me over at Renee Kapuku.

[Courtney]

Renee Kapuku. Be her biggest fan.

[Renee]

But y'all don't know cost me lately. I'm screaming and I was not expecting that this one that sh. I had those seem be changing but it is well.

[Courtney]

Oh my God.

[Renee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Courtney]

What is that? What's that baby O DJ Khaled.

[Renee]

Struggling with success, suffering with suffering with.

[Courtney]

Success, but also like just so many changes. Oh my gosh. Plug into the sisterhood cuz this is going to be our outlet. This is talk about it all. This is your last chance. We're going to grow and glow in.

[Renee]

Real time, really and truly.

[Courtney]

And we can't wait to share that journey with you guys. Be praying for us and as we are praying for you.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And we love you. 2025.

[Renee]

Ah, wow.

[Courtney]

Sisters in 2025. Shall we leave them with our departing words?

[Renee]

As you know, keep glowing and growing.

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