Why We Left: The Truth About Healing, Rediscovery, and Evolution in Friendship & Womanhood

Summary

To My Sisters Podcast — "Why We Left: The Truth About Healing, Rediscovery, and Evolution in Friendship & Womanhood"

Hosts: Courtney Daniella Jesse & Renée Imafidon
Date: March 29, 2026
Season: 7, Episode 1

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Episode Overview

In this deeply personal and reflective episode, Courtney and Renée return from an extended hiatus to share the truth behind their time away from the podcast. They discuss the realities of navigating major life transitions—marriage, evolving friendships, and careers—while emphasizing healing, rediscovery, and the shifting nature of womanhood. The hosts open up about the necessity for privacy during periods of growth and how these changes have redefined the vision for both their personal lives and the To My Sisters community.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Necessity of Stepping Back (12:45–16:34)

• Exhaustion and Transition:
  The duo explain that, while exhaustion played a role, their hiatus was primarily about honoring a new, private season of life.

  • Renée (15:24): “This new season… needed to be done in private. There’s so much power in privacy and cultivating depth before breadth.”

• Privacy as Sacred Space:
  Both recognized the importance of dealing with seismic life changes—marriage, career shifts, evolving family dynamics—away from public scrutiny to allow for genuine processing and healing.

2. Honoring Personal Growth & Friendship Evolution (26:03–38:11)

• Parallel Journeys:
  Both got married in the same year, presenting unique tensions and the evolution of their friendship from living/working together daily to navigating new marital and personal spaces.

  • Courtney (24:26): “We are two best friends who have been close for a very long time… now finding ourselves getting married in the same year and having to part ways… It was tough.”

• Individual Healing & Rediscovery:

  • Courtney (30:13): “I can now identify that I have put my self worth and my self esteem in things that are completely unstable and unworthy of that much weight.”
    Therapy, reflection, and faith were crucial in understanding themselves apart from their achievements or roles.

• Giving Space in Friendship:
  Both highlighted the need (and pain) of giving one another—and themselves—room to grow separately, trusting that this would ultimately strengthen their bond.

  • Renée (37:40): “Sometimes in friendships, you actually need space, and sometimes you have to give people the space to do that work with God.”

3. Lessons from the Break (18:18–25:24; 30:13–38:11)

• Slowing Down & Redefining Success:
  The hosts candidly recall moments when fast-paced living led to exhaustion and the realization that rest and slowing down were necessary, not shameful.

  • Courtney (07:13): "I've just been learning, Courtney, slow down... In everything that you do do it slower."

• Complexity of Emotions:

  • Renée (04:24): "Two things can be true at once…highs and lows can coexist… somewhere in the mix, God still operates."
  • They discuss the ability to feel joy and pain simultaneously and making space for both during transformative periods.

• Family & Legacy:
  Both experienced renewed and deeper relationships with their parents and family during this time, as well as a sense of urgency to prioritize loved ones.

  • Courtney (10:35): “I want the years that I lost to the pain and the dysfunction. I want more years with you guys.”

4. The Vision for the Future (38:18–48:55)

Evolving the To My Sisters Community

• From Foundations to Running:
  TMS will now shift from building community foundations to an era of “running,” characterized by growth, action, and impact.

  • Renée (41:01): “Now we can run. The future of TMS looks like we’re running now… creating not just a community of friends, but a community of women that can evolve together.”

• Inclusion & Global Expansion:
  Expanding beyond local events, the podcast will embrace diverse voices and extend gatherings globally to foster a worldwide sisterhood.

• Voices & Representation:
  Upcoming seasons will include more varied guests—women further ahead in their journeys and those with different lived experiences, to provide richer insights and blueprints for life transitions.

• Tangible Impact:
  Focus on social impact work: education, advocacy, women’s health, community service—embedding action alongside conversation.

What it Means to "Glow and Grow"

• Embracing Change:
  Courtney (43:33): “We are not the same women we were at 23 years old starting this podcast. We have grown… but we are still growing.”
  The hosts stress their continued transparency about personal evolution in hopes of empowering others to embrace their own changing seasons.

• Holistic Success:
  Showcasing that “winning” as a woman can look vastly different depending on values, circumstances, and choices, and all are valid.

  • Courtney (48:15): "You'll hear from women who'll tell you, winning in life looked like me championing my career over family. And then you'll also hear women who will say, winning in life looked like me prioritizing my family over my career. Both of those are valid."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• The Value of Rest:
  Courtney (07:13): “Your life is worth living. Slow down… in everything that you do do it slower.”
• On Friendship After Marriage:
  Courtney (24:26): “Now we're finding ourselves getting married in the same year and having to part ways… not in an ending of a friendship way but… you're no longer two women doing lives together.”
• On Privacy and Healing:
  Renée (15:24): “There’s so much power in privacy… being able to cultivate depth before you prioritize breadth.”
• On Self-worth and Idolatry:
  Courtney (30:13): “I can now identify that I have put my self worth and my self esteem in things that are completely unstable and unworthy of that much weight.”
• On Friendship Evolution:
  Renée (37:40): “Sometimes in friendships, you actually need space. And sometimes you have to give people the space to do that work with God.”
• On Community:
  Courtney (41:27): “To my sisters is really a space where women can thrive together… not just about having a voice, but also putting that to action.”
• On the Future:
  Courtney (43:33): “We are not the same women we were at 23… we are evolving as women… but we are still growing.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:21–03:38 – Heartfelt catch-up and quick fire "Glow & Grow" questions
• 12:45–16:34 – Why the break was necessary; the value of privacy and rest
• 24:26–38:11 – Navigating friendship changes, marriage, and personal healing
• 38:18–48:55 – The future of To My Sisters: vision, evolution, and global plans
• 48:52–56:49 – Personal visions for Courtney & Renée beyond the podcast

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Tone & Style

Reflective, warm, honest, and empowering—Courtney and Renée maintain a candid sisterly tone throughout, balancing vulnerability with hope and practical wisdom.

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Conclusion

The return of To My Sisters marks the dawn of a new, more impactful season. Courtney and Renée’s honesty about their behind-the-scenes struggles and triumphs invites listeners to navigate their own transitions with grace, intention, and community support. As they step into a broader vision for TMS—inclusive, action-driven, and growth-focused—they invite every listener to not only glow and grow, but to shape a legacy of holistic, empowered womanhood.

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• Join the mailing list via tomysisters.com

Final Words:
Courtney (58:38): “As always, keep glowing and growing.”

Transcript

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[Renee]

I have loved our friendship and I continue to love our friendship. But even that has changed so much.

[Courtney]

I want the years that I lost.

[Renee]

It's okay, babe. Do your thing.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Be here when you need me.

[Courtney]

Okay. All the things that I've been doing since I graduated in 2018, is this even what I want to be doing anymore?

[Renee]

Sometimes in friendships, you actually need space. And sometimes you have to give people the space to do that work with God.

[Courtney]

I can now identify that I have put my self worth and my self esteem in things that are completely unstable and unworthy of that much weight.

[Renee]

To my sisters is really a space where women can thrive together.

[Courtney]

Yeah. You have to make sure that you're not bringing your wounds onto this podcast.

[Renee]

We are creating not just a community of friends, but a community of women that can evolve together.

[Courtney]

Sometimes I feel like you're putting your body in a constant state of shock.

[Renee]

Hello and welcome to the team My sisters podcast. I'm Renee.

[Courtney]

And I'm Courtney. And we are your online sisters and hosts of the to my sisters podcast.

[Renee]

Now we are all about promoting the wellness, growth and development of a community of sisters across the world.

[Courtney]

And sisters, we are back. We are back after a long hiatus to my sisters returned bigger and better than ever. Did you miss us? Because we missed you. We missed you, literally. You guys have been hounding us, messages, seeing us in person, everything. When is the podcast back? And honestly, I think we both needed the time away. And so in this first episode, we're catching up like girls do, right? Catching up with each other, catching up with you guys to talk about why we took this step back, but also what moving forward looks like. Oh, no.

[Renee]

And also thank you to all of the sisters that actually checked in. Thank you to everyone that gave us grace and space. It's not an easy thing, especially in today's society, kind of industry that we're working with content. It feels like there's this constant pressure to be around and online.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

So thank you guys for actually honoring us and letting us take that step back so that we could come back refreshed, grown by you, Kuni Bafu girl.

[Courtney]

I'm like, well, we.

[Renee]

We've really done some growing up. During this time. And we're really excited to bring this new version of us, rather, this refined version.

[Courtney]

It be.

[Renee]

It's refined. Hopefully we ain't taking any too many steps back, ladies, in fact, but it really is a beautiful thing to be able to come with a new and refreshed energy that we love, which is each other, but also you guys and this community.

[Courtney]

That's so good. Well, since we haven't been here and the chairs are a little bit cold. New chairs, by the way, because you guys can see different set, different. And literally there's a whole bunch of newness coming. But to break the ice a little bit, we've got a little game, a little cheeky game. If you know us in person, then, you know, playing games is what we do. Okay, so we've got some glowing and growing quick fire questions to ask one another. So I'll kick it off by asking you a glow question, friend. Okay. What's a small luxury you're loving lately?

[Renee]

Ooh, small luxury I am loving lately. Morning coffees.

[Courtney]

Okay.

[Renee]

Specifically, if you know me, you know I like a pistachio lighter. Yeah. And that has been the luxury that I have held fast to in this season. Having my morning pistachio latte.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Bought. Not every single day, guys, because, you know, investing of all the things, you know, trying to. There we go. Trying to buy a house and all that kind of stuff. And I'm buying my coffee every morning. I clearly were being the same. But my morning pistachio latte always brings me a smile.

[Courtney]

I absolutely love that. And then a growing question for you.

[Renee]

Oh.

[Courtney]

Oh, this is a good one. What's the lesson life has been teaching you lately?

[Renee]

Oh, that's a really good question. I think for me, it's that two things can be true at once.

[Courtney]

Okay.

[Renee]

In my experience, not necessarily that this is something that's new, but its format has been new for me in this particular season, where there have been some incredible highs, but then there's also been some incredible personal lows as well. Yeah. And that somewhere in the middle of it and in the mix of it, God still operates. So the lesson is that these things can coexist. You can be feeling immense pain, you can be going through suffering, but there's still joy that can be experienced in the midst of all of that. So, yeah, that's something. I think it's a lesson that I've really been learning recently. Yeah, that's really beautiful. Well, honey, that's the question for you too. So hit me. Let me go find Something exciting. Okay. Okay. Oh, I like this. So, for a glow question, what is one of your favorite ways to romanticize your life lately?

[Courtney]

Oh, that's good. That's really, really good. You know what? It's gonna sound really simple and it's. It's really not fancy slowing down.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And I think I've spoken about this on the podcast before, but it's hit me more and more in the last six months of my life that I do things incredibly fast and like, that. Obviously, there was a huge period where I was like, wedding planning, moving, and everything had quick, quick, quick. Like, I remember there was a week in July. July madness. July madness. Like, I had a speaking engagement in Leeds, but the day before, I had to go and get my train. I had to pack down literally half of the flat because we were moving out. And so literally the day of moving came the next day, and I, like, had to finish packing, get packed into the van, go to the new house, get unpacked there. It wasn't even a new house. The new house at the time, because we hadn't. The sale hadn't completed. So I was stressed with that. Exactly. The sale hadn't completed. So I'm like, messaging solicitors, like, when are we going to get the keys to the house? And they were like, it's not going to be till next week. And I'm like, I've got all of my stuff. So it's like, okay, find a storage unit. Take the stuff to the storage unit outside of London, and then from there, get the train to Leeds. Right. And it's just like, I've got this one suitcase to my name of stuff. And I think from there, obviously, wedding planning then accelerated. And literally, I remember the day after my registry wedding, I was just like, I can't run any. I can't do this anymore. I can't move at the same speed anymore. And I think genuinely facing the reality of exhaustion, I was just like, I need to slow down. Yeah. Not just in how many things that I'm doing, but even in the pace at which I do the things I need to do. So waking up, like, I don't get up with as much speed anymore. I literally get up slowly. Yeah. Because I feel like sometimes I feel like you're putting your body in a constant state. So not shocked. Yeah. Like, your body is always in this fight or flight. Relax.

[Renee]

Have you seen those TikToks that are

[Courtney]

like, oh, waking up like my mum.

[Renee]

And it's like, yeah, no, no, no.

[Courtney]

Exactly. And I feel like that's where I was at. And I was just like, you don't need to live in this place of chronic stress. Chronically on edge. Chronically. I need to rush through this. Like, I don't know if you've seen those videos of women who are like, you know, when I tell myself I can fit in one more thing before I need to go to the toilet. And so now you'. You're sweeping the floor, and your legs are like this. You know what I mean? And then you see something, you're like, okay, well, let me pop it in the oven, because, you know, it will help me while I go and pee. Then the oven can heat up. Before you realize it, you're on the verge of wetting yourself. I've literally been there so many times that that has been like, okay, girl, you don't need to rush through your life. Your life is worth living. Slow down. No, literally. And sometimes. And then you'll finally get to the toilet, and you're like. And there's a balance of, like, relief. Obviously, that. And there's a question of, like, why do I do this? But then there's synonymous pride.

[Renee]

Yeah. Because imagine that.

[Courtney]

Didn't pee myself this time. So I've just been learning. Courtney, slow down. Slow down. In everything that you do do it slower.

[Renee]

Resonates heavily.

[Courtney]

Yeah, heavily.

[Renee]

So that's so funny. It's the crossing of the legs that's killing.

[Courtney]

Because you really be out here. Yeah, man.

[Renee]

Oh, my goodness. Okay. Ooh. What's something you realize that you want

[Courtney]

more of in your life that I want more of?

[Renee]

Oof.

[Courtney]

I mean, I'm always on the verge of saying money, but one thing that I've realized I want more of in my life. I want more time with my parents. I want more time with my parents.

[Renee]

That's beautiful.

[Courtney]

I think. Again, throwing it back to wedding season, and if you've listened to the hundreds of episodes we have of this podcast, then you know that growing up, I had a very tumultuous relationship with my parents. You know, my. My parents didn't have the most functional marriage, and we thank God for healing and stuff like that, but it meant that my dad left very early on, still had a relationship with him, but he wasn't in the household. My mom became a single mother, and I think a lot of us can relate to seeing our mothers carry burdens, and it lead to them having to come extremely strong, that sometimes we don't feel their nurturing softness.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And it then led to a very difficult relationship with my Mom. And so during my wedding season, obviously that's a very high stress moment. And I feel like those moments always bring out the madness in people. But in my case, it actually brought out the love and the care out of my parents in a way that I had never really felt before. I'm used to being the independent one, you know, eldest daughter. Hello. And so it was just like, I don't need you. I don't need you. And suddenly, no, I want you to need me. I want to be there for you. I want to help you transition into this new stage. What can I do for you? I want you to be happy. And I was just like, whoa, who are you? Like, this is not the parent I've always known. And having that moment where it's like, I'm looking you dead in the eye and I can tell you want our relationship moving forward to be very different. And I also, deep down past the pain and the, maybe the deep resentment or the unforgiveness or whatever is lingering still in me, also want that.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And so let's have that. And now that I've been spending more and more time with them and I see how they love my husband and I see how, like, we become a family, I'm just like, I want the years that I lost. I want the years that I lost to the pain and the dysfunction. I want more years with you guys. And I think it doesn't help that they're getting old. It doesn't help that they're getting old. So, yeah, I want more time with my parents.

[Renee]

That's so beautiful.

[Courtney]

Yeah, that is.

[Renee]

I just, you know the ones where I say our parents, they just need to stay forever.

[Courtney]

Oh, my.

[Renee]

They actually do need to stay forever. Because I don't know, as I've gotten older and older, I'm also noticing that they're getting older. Yeah. And I was obviously, Mother's Day has come and gone.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And my mom's birthday is coming off

[Courtney]

and I may want shout out to you, Carol, our time is coming, though. Our time is coming.

[Renee]

One thing about my mom, she ain't never going to let you forget it. And she's one of those people whereby she'll be like, oh, yes, my birthday coming up soon. So in that low key, passive, but also active way that you must remember. And I find myself looking forward to spending time with the family, looking forward to bringing everyone together. But I'm also simultaneously hit with this wave of sadness and realization that these moments will not be forever and they won't be Forever in this particular way. And so the new sense of almost urgency now has really been placed on my heart to spend time with my parents, but also to spend time with my siblings as well. I think very similarly. Wow. My family. I really love my family.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And I love spending time with my family. I love my community. I love spending time with my community.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And we've spoken about this actually, you know, in our own. In our own conversations, but even feeling the impact of our ambitions, changing of our sense of what success looks like, and part of that is embracing the fact that there are people in our lives that we really need to spend time. Yeah. And we need to prioritize.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And it's been a beautiful but fulfilling realization.

[Courtney]

That's so good. That's so good. So I guess, I mean, those questions were great, by the way, but the ice is broke.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Okay. So I think to dive into it. I think this episode just consists of two questions. Right. And the first of which is going to be on people's minds is where have we been? Because we started this. We started this podcast in 2020. Yeah. Pod pandemic. Baby crazy. And it was all about our friendship and it was all about our journey into womanhood with each other. We were 23.

[Renee]

Tender.

[Courtney]

Tender 23. Literally entering into the peak of our mid-20s, where we have freedom and all that. Then we're hit by a global pandemic. Yeah. But we're also juggling so many things that we carried in the. Into the pandemic. Right. Being high achieving women who are coming from backgrounds where we didn't have much. Right. But we have been able to achieve so much. But we want more. Right. That's how we came into this podcast. We want more. And something that's anchoring our. Anchoring us in our journey for more is our friendship with one another that has spanned years and it's only been growing since then. And we started this podcast and it evolved into a community and we wrote a book and we did all these. All the black girl magic things that black girls do where we're just like, take something from nothing and God turns it into. Into something. And we met some men. Them men came and said, hey, I will woo you so much that you want to marry me. They succeeded.

[Renee]

They entertained, literally.

[Courtney]

They, they, they, they qualify. And then we both got married last year. Right. So you got married in March, and I can't believe you're one year married. That is insane. That is insane. It's putting up with me.

[Renee]

It's crazy.

[Courtney]

But you You've been married for a year, and I got to be your maid of honor. And then I got married six months later, almost exactly six months later to the day, and you were my maid of honor. And realizing that, okay, 2025 was a lot for us. Yeah, it was a lot for our friendship. It was a lot for the women that we are. You know, these women with high ambitions and high goals are now faced with a season change, which requires them to reassess those ambitions and those goals. So we took a break.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And I think we need to go a bit deeper into why that break was necessary for us, especially considering this is our baby, this is what we do for work. Why did we take this break and what's been going on for you on this break?

[Renee]

Yeah, it was no longer rent caps. You know what? I think I don't want to just say that. Oh, we were tired, and so we just decided we're not going to do this anymore, because I do think there was an element of tiredness and exhaustion. But I think it was also recognizing that this new season that we were being ushered into needed to be done in private. And there's something very beautiful. We've spoken about this, and you've spoken about this so beautifully as well. So I'm really excited to hear what you have to say and what your assessment of our time away has been. But there is just so much power in privacy and so much power in being able to cultivate depth before you prioritize breadth. And I think that because our community is built on something that's very rich, very authentic, very much relationship oriented, it would be remiss of us to not take the opportunity to do those things that we preach, to actually focus and center the very things that are so integral to who we are as people. And I think because this was. The changes that we were experiencing in 2025 were seismic.

[Courtney]

Huge.

[Renee]

They were, like, genuinely earthquake, like, in our lives. Right. We were moving, we were getting married. We were doing all the things. Our careers were changing fundamentally. Our relationship with our family was also changing. There were so many things that were changing. And as much as it's beautiful to be transpar, I think that sometimes privacy also affords you the privilege of leaning in being present, not feeling like you have to sacrifice the tenderness that comes with that particular season for a viewership that may not be ready to process some of those changes. We were still processing some of those changes. We're still processing. Right. And this. This community, this platform, has always been a space where we've been able to articulate ourselves, but at least for me, I found myself in the last, like, quarter or so, unable to articulate.

[Courtney]

Right.

[Renee]

Like, genuinely, even when it came to things like journaling or speaking and all that kind of stuff. I wouldn't necessarily say that there was a resistance, but there was a. A sense or a force or a deep sense of knowledge in myself from God that it wasn't time yet. Just spend some time. Just actually rest and figure out what this new version of rest looks like for you. So I tried all the things I did, all the, yeah, we go to the gym. Yeah, we. Out here, I'm reading my Bible. This, this, this, that. But honestly and truly, there was a revitalization that came from being able to just. Just be private, be private in my moments, and be intimate with people that I really, you know, care about. Building depth to existing relationships and also forging new ones as well. And also just having time to think. Yeah, I feel like at least I can speak for myself. I get distracted. Really, really easy. Like, being on social media, doing all the things that people are supposed to be doing as part of their journey, actually having time to wrestle with my thoughts, having time to wrestle with the kind of person I wanted to be, and also having time to deconstruct. I felt like this break was a really good time, at least again, for me to deconstruct, to really figure out, okay, it's not just a building on top of, but I felt like I was forced to examine some of my foundations. What were some of the things that I thought, oh, my gosh, these things are healed. Or what were some of the things that I thought, oh, yeah, this is. This is who Renee is. And being forced to confront with the fact that actually there's a new version of Renee that needs to emerge as a result of some of the places and the things that I've been called to and the new levels of elevation that I. I had to go towards. And so, literally in everything, being married has been an absolute blessing. Heck, I never thought I'd be on a podcast with the girlies saying, yeah, I love this man. Yeah, I do. I love that man. That's a great guy. Fabulous guy. But even in that, it's a process that needs building and needs investment and actually needs privacy for that to be able to stand.

[Courtney]

Right?

[Renee]

And so figuring out new things, figuring out new rhythms, figuring out the new version of Renee in that context. The same with friendship. Like, I have loved our friendship, and I continue to love our friendship, but even that has changed so much. Like, we've had to change as people. We've gone through the growing pains. We've done all the things like we've done, as you mentioned, all the black girl excellence things, but we've also suffered real deep pains. Yeah. Gone through a lot. Yeah. And actually having time to process that. Yeah. But also, I think, interestingly, giving each other time to process that individually has been a challenging but beautiful thing because it has meant accepting the new version of me, but also giving space for the new version of you to rise as well. That's true. Yeah.

[Courtney]

That's good.

[Renee]

So that's been beautiful.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And I think even in some of my other relationships as well. So spending more time with my family, getting to know the different versions of them as well, going through some of the tough things as well. So my godmother, who I absolutely adore, love dearly, has an autoimmune disease. And being able to see her, I haven't seen her in years, by the way. She is one of my favorite people that ever. Because she's also very, very honest and very real and very frank as a person. And it's beautiful to see that despite the fact that, you know, she has really, really repressed physically, her mind remains stable to the point that she's still cracking jokes, even though I'm like, lady, you can't move. And she's like. She's still cracking jokes, like, oh, your face is still dry. She will tell you that. Yeah. And I think it, for me, being able to be present in those moments and take those moments and really, as I mentioned earlier, living the in between of the extreme joys that I've had in this re. Emergence.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And having them hand in hand with some of the difficulties of my life as well has been transformative. So, yeah, I think it kind of reminds me of. I always think of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Sorry, guys. I was a Potterhead growing up. I was like that girl that could name every single character in the Harry Potter universe. But this whole idea of a Phoenix from the ashes rising up again, and it's not even necessarily a painful thing. It's not like the phoenix was killed or anything like that, but it's making space for a reemergence. And I feel like that's what's been, at least for me, part and parcel of this time away. It's time to actually rest. Time to let things die, but also allowing things that have died reemerge in a new way.

[Courtney]

That's so good.

[Renee]

Yeah, in a roundabout way. Those are my thoughts.

[Courtney]

I love that.

[Renee]

Yeah, I would love to hear some of your reflections on the time, the time at hand, the time away, the time away, seclusion, isolation, the gap.

[Courtney]

I think. I think I resonate a lot with things that you said. I think there are a couple things happening for me in the last couple of months. Similarly, in that.

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[Courtney]

I think 2025, we had a very unique situation, right? In that we are two best friends who have been close for a very long time and who have been walking closely with each other. I mean, we worked together at the time, we lived together, we did everything together. And now we're finding ourselves getting married in the same year and having to part ways, right? Not in a. In an ending of a friendship way, but in a parting ways in that, okay, you're no longer two women doing lives together. You are two women doing lives with other people who now need to navigate doing lives together. And it was tough. I think it was very, very tough. And I think no one could have prepared us for the tension that comes with getting married in the same year as your best friend. Because it's such a unique thing to us. And I think it led to us and we. A couple of episodes back in our last season, we were talking about this, right? Where it was like there were certain battles that we had to fight together that sometimes felt like we were battling each other because of that uniqueness of us both going through really hard season changes at the Same time. And it hit me, I think, deeper than I would have liked to have admitted. It also hit me deeper than I was able to process. And I think after getting married and like, moving and all of that, and like, I just described like the whole chaos of that time. I felt like I was on the other side of my wedding day really processing that. Hey, I have not processed this. I actually haven't processed this at all. And everything is hitting me back to back now of like, I'm missing you. I am struggling with this. Or I feel like this didn't get a resolution. And then you're now dealing with this man looking at you like, okay, so we're all gonna eat. And they're like, what's for dinner? And the thing is, I can't even be like, you cook dinner. Because if you cook dinner, I' ma hate it, you know? So it's just like, wow, okay, this is a lot. And then I'm dealing with a lot of change in my life. Like, I think at the time being self employed, I think it's interesting when you decide to take breaks from what you do as your job. Because for me, it's not just like stepping back from the podcast. I stepped away from socials, I stepped away from even speaking, but that's my job. So then I'm at home, like, okay, you know, my husband's like, this is good. Like, just chill. This is amazing for you. I want you to rest. Like, you carry, you know, you carried so much. And then I'm just at home, like, you know, he goes off to work and then I'm at home and I'm just twiddling my thumbs. I'm like, okay, now I'm left with my thoughts and my deepest fears and my insecurities around, okay, all the things that I've been doing since I graduated in 2018 as a self employed person. Is this even what I want to be doing anymore? Is, does this feel good enough? Do I feel like I've made the most of the last seven years of my life? Do I feel like resting now means me forfeiting everything that I've built over the last seven years as well? And I think that made me heavily lean into God, like, okay, God. I can now identify that I have put my self worth and my self esteem in things that are completely unstable and unworthy of that much weight. I didn't realize how much I had put my value in how much I'm able to do, how well I'm able to perform. And when all of that was stripped back. Not that it was stripped away from me, but I chose to lay it down. I think God used that as an opportunity to open my eyes to, you've made certain things an idol in your life and an idol in your heart, and it's unhelpful for you for where you need to go. And so allowing God to just, like, start to rebuild those areas of, okay, let me affirm who you are outside of what you do. Let me affirm who you are outside of this man. Let me affirm who you are outside of this friendship. And I was just like, okay, God, I can see how, you know, certain thoughts that I'm contending with around, am I enough? Have I done enough? They don't really matter because you see me as enough. You see me as enough to die for, enough to care about, enough to speak to me every day. And so, yeah, I, I can resolve that. No matter what I'm doing or what I'm not doing, you are pleased with me. And I, I, I think it was a hard. I went talking about it almost every week with my therapist or every other week with my therapist for our sessions because I was like, yo, I'm struggling. I know I need rest, but every time I rest, I feel so guilty about resting. I'm struggling with enjoying this season, but also carrying very deep wounds and not knowing who to turn to with this and feeling quite alone because I've moved away from, like, my support system and community, and now I'm left at home with my thoughts and I'm, like, crying. But then I know I'm deeply happy. And it was tough. It was really, really tough. And I think that's why this time away has been so, I guess, sacred for me in that it gave me the space to not come and spill all of that onto this platform. Because as someone who really values transparency and authenticity and vulnerability, I have not always used my discretion and my discernment to stop me from processing out loud and in front of a digital audience, the things that I should be processing in my secret place for myself. I've been online creating content since I was 18. Right. And so there's a lot of growth that I've done in front of people. And I think I've got the privacy thing. I did it quite well. There are a lot of things that people still don't know about me, even though I've been online for, like, 10 years. Life. Right. But, but even with that, I think that was such a sensitive stage for me. Navigating friendship, navigating transitions into marriage. Navigating. Like what I just said about my family. Similar to you. There were so many things that I think God just wanted to do in me and for me and speak to me that I don't think having a mic would have been very wise in that season, because then you could be tempted to speak from a place of pain.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Do things out of a place of insecurity to prove to yourself and to prove to the world that, hey, I'm good enough. Right. But that's not what this season was for. And I. I really like when God breaks us down like that. Yeah. Because he strips everything away so that he can give us new garments. And he's just like, okay, this is. This is who you're going to be in this season. This is what you're going to wear. This is how. This is how you're going to move. And similar to you, I felt like very recently it was the green light of, okay, now you're ready to go. And I think I started to see how I started to feel a lot lighter. Like, I just decided, okay, let certain things go. Put that. Put that in the past and move forward. And seeing how God has opened so many doors so quickly around even just changing my mindset about myself and about work and about this podcast, I think what we do is so special in that women have trusted us with their heart.

[Renee]

Yeah, exactly.

[Courtney]

They've trusted us with their journey. They've trust us with their mind. And anyone who has a podcast needs to recognize that that's not something to be taken lightly. When people give you access to their mindset, when they give you access to speaking to the deepest wounds, you have to make sure that you're not bringing your wounds onto this podcast, because then they'll get infected. Yeah. And I. I think I. I dread to think what type of way I would have bled out on this podcast if I had been speaking two months ago, three months ago, four months ago. So I'm really grateful for the privacy and the solitude and the obscurity because I think it allowed me to heal. Really allowed me to heal in deep, deep ways. And I've loved that. I've really, really, really enjoyed that. And it feels good. Good to be back.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Like, in all transparency, we have recorded two first episodes.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Before this. Right. Whereas. Okay, let's bring the podcast back. And we're like, you know, and it's.

[Renee]

I want it.

[Courtney]

Yeah. And I think for. For me, maybe selfishly, there was that feeling of, like, I'm not enjoying this yet. I'm not enjoying this yet. And now I'm just like, no, yeah, this is purpose. This is. This is amazing. This is service. And, yeah, I'm glad that we afforded ourselves that in a world where we could just keep going and going and going and people would appreciate what we produce in that time. I'm really, really glad that we allowed each other as well to have that time where it's like, no, no, no. You come back when you feel your best. So, yeah, I'm really grateful. And I think also friendships, like you said, friendships have changed a lot. And having friends who will allow you to go through your process and be like, okay, I'm here for when you need me. I also respect if you need space. And I think sisterhood in this season has looked like a lot of my friends, even some of my bridesmaids, calling and being like, you know, or I call them, and I'm like, how come you haven't even speakers? But it's like, I just. I want you to have the space that you need to start this new chapter of life, but also discover who you are in this chapter of life. And sometimes it's hard when you have all these other voices, even if they're not trying to shape you, they're just trying to entertain you. And that entertainment can become a distraction. Right. And so I'm just allowing you to have your time. And I think it's so beautiful to have sisters who can discern your season for you, who can say, you know what? I know my role in this season for you, and it's not to be at the center of your life or even in your ear. It's to be in my corner praying for you, and I'll be here when you need me and when that season changes. And I think you've done that for me, and I've tried to do that for you. I hope I've done it effectively. But, yeah, I. I think this season has taught me many valuable lessons. Yeah. Oh, Courtney, that is so, so beautiful.

[Renee]

So girls always to touch on.

[Courtney]

So I'm saying.

[Renee]

But I resonate so deeply with the wanting to come back refreshed. Yeah. And it will take as long as it will take, and that's that.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Being happy with that. And I love what you were saying about having people in your life that can discern a season as well, because I think, at least for me, I was coming up with resistance and frustration, like, oh, yeah, let's go. Let's go. And sometimes you have to do the full work before, you know, you're signed off to go.

[Courtney]

Yeah. Right.

[Renee]

It's like doing a full MOT and realizing, oh, there's still some stuff that we need to work on here before you have the full license to go.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

And so I think I'm grateful for the fact that we were able to give that to each other, that. That. Hey, it's okay, babe.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Do your thing. Yeah, I'll be here when you need me. But also, even if you start and you decide, oh, actually, this isn't the right start for me just yet, let's take it back and we'll go again.

[Courtney]

Right.

[Renee]

And I think this community, this podcast, one of the bedrocks, has always been female friendship.

[Courtney]

Right.

[Renee]

And I love the analogy that you used about, you know, doing life together and then now doing lives together, because one thing that I funnily enough journaled about was this whole idea of running race together. Right. You start off thinking that you're running the same race, but realize actually we're running two different races parallel to each other. So we're running together, but taking full stock of the fact that actually you have a different race. Yeah. To run. And whilst I'm running my race, I can still support you and vice versa. But also acknowledging that that support will look different at. Different. Yes. Right. You hit a bend, and all of a sudden you're a bit further away. So the support that you gave in the season where the two races were quite close to each other looks very different. And just being prepared for the changes. Not necessarily being prepared to handle the changes, but being prepared to accept that the changes will come and being open and adaptable to know, okay, what I've. Like, what I have may not be the right thing to give in this moment, and that's actually okay. I think what I've really enjoyed about our friendship is I think it's very easy to say, oh, yeah, like, our friendship has matured. Like, I don't even think the word necessarily is mature.

[Courtney]

Yeah. But

[Renee]

I like how it's evolved. Yeah, I like how it's evolved, because sometimes in friendships, you actually need space, and sometimes you have to give people the space to do that work with God. And I think for me, it was also coming to that realization that I needed that, but also that you needed that, and that's okay. And we're better for it when we come back together, because I trust and believe that God has done his work in you in the same way that you trust and believe that God will do his work in me 100%.

[Courtney]

That's so good. That's so good. Well, I guess that's. That's the reflection side of things. But then we have to talk about. About the future side.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Because we are back.

[Renee]

Yeah, we are.

[Courtney]

You know, we could have shut down this whole thing and be like, well, you know what? It was a nice.

[Renee]

It was great.

[Courtney]

It was a nice chapter.

[Renee]

It was a nice.

[Courtney]

But no, there is still assignment. There's still calling. There's still purpose. There's still a reason why God needs us in these seats on this corner of the Internet. And we have built a community, a global community of women. Like, you guys have still been rocking with us even while we've been away. And so what I guess, is in store for that, Right. What does to my sisters look like moving forward?

[Renee]

The future of two. Very excited. And I love that we are excited about this. Yeah. I think it's important.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

For me, the future of two my sisters, we've been talking about this again off. Off the cams. But this whole idea of growth and evolution together, I think our community has so far very much focused on a lot of found elements around relationship building, around the importance of female friendship, around unlocking the necessity of having a community around you. What I'm really excited about is running. Yeah. It feels like we've really been doing in hindsight now and having the time and space to really think about, okay, what is it that TMS stood for in this last chapter? I think having the time to kind of break away, think upon it, and have the time to figure out how we want to articulate it has been helpful because now in hindsight, I can see, wow. We really were doing foundational elements. Yeah. We really were building this bedrock of a community, and now we can run. Yeah. So the future of TMS looks like we're running now. Like we are creating not just a community of friends, but a community of women that can evolve together. Like, we can do life in our races together. It looks like a growth ecosystem where women can walk together, but they can also run together. So it looks like having more women, more voices on the podcast, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, that are not necessarily just affirmative voices, but also challenging voices. That's good. It looks like holding space for women that are different to us, women that are like us, but women that are different to us. It looks like having conversations with women that are ahead of us to give us a insight to what does life look like a little bit further down the line. It looks like us continuing to do social impact Work. We are so passionate about women, the state of women, advocacy for women. So we're not just here to have conversations. We're also here to change lives and change communities. So it looks like if you see, you know, Courtney and I and some of the TMS girls in some spaces up in partner, Ben Touchwood.

[Courtney]

Amen.

[Renee]

Doing things for women, criminal justice systems, doing things for women's education, doing things for women's entrepreneurship, to my sisters is really a space where women can thrive together. And doing that active work, it's not just about having a voice, but also putting that to action that's good. And materially changing the lives of the women that we care about and seeing that come to fruition.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

So it looks, I wouldn't even say it looks different to the vision that we cast out way back when we were in your bedroom recording the first episode of TMS with their mics by the window.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Oh, we've come far, Charlotte. The mics are even standing by themselves. So that in of itself, glory to glory test. Let's. Let's testify of God's goodness.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

But it really does look like us taking those steps, those intentional steps to materializing a vision and really making it real. But really changing and transforming lives and working with our sisters, working with really incredible people. People to do that. Yeah. We're still going to do the, you know, the retreats and the. The international stuff. Oh, the girls are going to be glad. Glad to know that unfortunately, London ladies, your days are numbered.

[Courtney]

Oh, my God.

[Renee]

Your days are numbered. We have unfortunately stayed entirely to local. We're no longer local girls.

[Courtney]

No, we've always been global.

[Renee]

We've all been global. But like we're. We're going global.

[Courtney]

Okay. Global for. London's in the globe. It's our home city. Really.

[Renee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. It. I did it. But we need to decentralize.

[Courtney]

Nah, I love that you're always centered it by heart.

[Renee]

I'm just saying this wink, wink. So we win the global girls, by the way, because I know the girlies. There's always somebody that pipes. Oh, what about the German girls? Oh, what about the wink, wink? We've heard, we've heard. We're coming. So really taking a true global lens to our community events. The content that we create and really bringing the sisterhood, but also the evolution more to the fore. Yeah. And yeah, the future really is to my sisters. For my sisters. To my sisters. But it really is a world that we are building with women in mind. That's what to my sisters. Looks like for me.

[Courtney]

I love that, right?

[Renee]

Cd. Cdj.

[Courtney]

You know, cdj.

[Renee]

Let me put some respect on that name, that initial.

[Courtney]

What does it look like the future look like? You know what? I can confidently say we are not the same women we were at 23 years old starting this podcast. We have grown.

[Renee]

Oh, got the joints to prove it, babe.

[Courtney]

Taking my crap. We have grown up, but we are still growing. And I think when I think of the future of this podcast and I think about season seven and forward and the next five years, I think it's reflecting that stage that we are in. I think that's what made women gravitate to us, right? We were two 23 year olds who are very transparent about the fact that as much as we have come far, we have a long way to grow and we want to show that growth, we want to document that growth. But I also think that now we've gotten to a place at 28 where we're like, as much as we've come far, we have a long way to go. And I, I've loved this period of identifying. Oh, wow. We are evolving as women. We are changing as friends to one another, but also as women in our own right. We are changing in what we desire for our lives. We are changing in who we desire to be. We are reaching new depths in our relationship with God, which is giving us a deeper sense of calling and values and what actually matters and what is purpose. And I think we came into the podcast in 2020 with all of these questions, right? And we had an answer and we went out and we did the thing and now we're coming to a point where we're like, maybe that isn't the answer for this season. Not because that answer was wrong, but because that answer was for the last five years. But the next five years has a different answer. It has a different mission, it has a different approach. And I think the podcast now is us as two 28 year old, 29 year old women who are like, okay, what do the 30s look like? What does legacy look like in your 40s? What does getting to the next level of my career look like now that I've decided who I want to be? Or now that I've decided that, hey, I actually want to pivot, I want to. I don't want to do the entrepreneurship anymore, I want to do corporate or I don't just want to be an entrepreneur, I want to be a philanthropist. What does it look like to turn from being a content creator to now working with the government, things like that, actually navigating those changes and still being transparent about what we are learning as two friends, how we are supporting each other, how we are growing, and the different realities of life we're discovering as we go on that journey. But also, like you said, bringing voices on who have walked that road, who have actually done it, who can be like, okay, sis, let's shortcut this for you. Here's the blueprint, here's the realty. This is. If you want to be this type of woman, here she is. This is her story. This is what she's decided to be. If you want to be that type of woman, here she is, here's her story. And I think that is something I'm really looking forward to, because I think at this point in life and in womanhood, you realize, oof, this is the type of woman I actually want to be. And I think there's something so powerful about being able to see that woman in this chair, listen to her on this podcast, and be like, ah, okay, this is the woman I need to follow. This is the woman I need to mentor me. Or, this is the road that I need to take as a woman who's figuring things out for real. For real. And I'm so excited for the podcast to embody that, to be the go to platform, the go to podcast and resource and community for women who are ready to grow up and who are like, okay, you know what? I decided this is the type of woman I want to be, or I want to discover the type of woman I want to be. So let me listen to these episodes, and let me listen to these episodes, Let me listen to these conversations as real and as raw as they are, and let me write out the blueprint for my life and let me figure out my story. Not because I want to be like Renee, not because I want to be like Courtney, but because I want to be me. Right? And I. I'm so excited for the podcast to be that. For you to hear. Still, the big range of topics we've been talking about, right? Where we are, not the type of podcast where we are pigeonholed into one topic. Yeah, we can talk about faith, but we can talk about business, and we can talk about health, and we can talk about policy, and we could talk about culture, and we can talk about all these different things because these things are paramount for women to discuss, because these shape our lives, they shape our realities. Marriage, relationships, everything, Family. And I can't wait for this to continue growing into a space where women realize that you can win in all areas of life. And there are different approaches to winning in all areas of life.

[Renee]

Life.

[Courtney]

But this is where we talk about it. You know, you'll hear from women who will tell you, winning in life looked like me championing my career over family. And then you'll also hear women who will say, winning in life looked like me prioritizing my family over my career. And both of those are valid. Both of those are valid. And both of those resonate with different women in different corners of the world who want different things for their lives. But that's still glowing and growing.

[Renee]

Growing.

[Courtney]

Right. And I'm. I'm just excited for. To my sister to be that space where women are like, this is what glowing and growing looks like for me. Yeah.

[Renee]

Base camp.

[Courtney]

Base camp, man. That's right. That's gms. But last question before we close out our first episode. What does the future look like for Renee? Because I think we. We could. We talk about two man sisters and obviously, like, it's huge for us in our lives, but we in this time have realized that we're so much more than this platform. And I have recognized that you are more than just my co host. And I think we've both recognized this in each other recently. And you said it a bit earlier, you're more than just my co host. You're more than just the co founder of 2 My Sisters. As awesome as it is, we are multifaceted women. So what does the future look like for Renee and what should people expect. Expect from your journey? Wow. Oh, my gosh.

[Renee]

Guys, follow me on all you're funny platforms. You know, just follow my. All my work and stuff. But it will encapsulate a little bit of that because I do love a good Kiki and I. Yeah, I very much love humor.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

The future for Renee, I think TMS will continue to be a core part of that. I love everything that we do with tms. So that's like one of my kids. Yeah. My firstborn. And so I'm looking forward to continuing to shape and bring out the different elements of TMS as well, especially the social impact side of TMS as well as the content direction as well. So the kinds of stories that we bring on the podcast and as part of the community. So I'm really looking forward to that. Renee, beyond the beyond, like TMS and what she looks like. I think it looks for me like now that I've had this period of, like, right. Immediately preceding our, like, hiatus and all of the changes and stuff. Like that I went for a prolonged period of re. Establishing my girlhood. What does it look like to actually be a girl child? And finding all of my hobbies and rediscovering the things that bring me joy. And out of that has birthed new ambitions or even me going back to old ambitions that I. Which looks like me continuing to work in the social impact space, which looks like me continuing to do a lot of policy advocacy type stuff. I loved politics growing up. So if. If I become prime minister one day. Y' all heard it here. Y' all heard it here first.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

But getting back into that work, I'm really passionate about women's experience in health care as well. So it looks like me continuing to champion those kind of voices and doing a lot more work around on women's reproductive systems and advocacy for that, especially because so many women around me, including myself, have to go through such destabilizing, debilitating experiences when it comes to women's health. So it really does look like me taking more of a louder and more obvious role in these spaces as an advocate, as someone that cares deeply about. About politics and policy, speaking a lot more. I'm gonna be yapping a lot more on the Internet, which is great, really great fun. It also looks like me writing more as well. Like, I'm really excited to bring back. Currently working on bringing back my newsletter, which will be exciting. So y' all should sign up for that.

[Courtney]

Brilliant.

[Renee]

And I'm also, as you folks know, I'm really passionate about productivity, but particularly productivity for women and something that. That a philosophy that aligns science, sociology, and the spirit and finding alignment between those three things for women. So it looks like me doing that. And heck, one of my goals actually is to go back to school. So if y' all see me back at school as well, mind your business. I need to get that. I need to get that.

[Courtney]

It wouldn't be shocking.

[Renee]

Hello. If no one is going to give me an honorary doctorate, then child got to work for.

[Courtney]

That's it.

[Renee]

But doing all that of these things and working at the intersection of women's health.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Renee]

Women's personal development and women's advocacy.

[Courtney]

Yeah. That's good.

[Renee]

That is Renee, I love it.

[Courtney]

And you'll thrive in all of it, girl. You're thriving. All of it. Cj, what you got coming up for us, girl?

[Renee]

We've been seeing a little bit of tidbits. Yeah. A little bit of rumblings.

[Courtney]

Don't even know about that. Very clear content. Yeah, man.

[Renee]

What you got?

[Courtney]

Yeah, you Know what I think in this season, I've really been embracing that. I am a woman who is passionate about a lot of things, is good at a lot of things, but I really want everything that I do to be stemming from a bigger cause. And I think since we. I don't think I ever really told it enough on this podcast, but I think building our school in Ghana was one of the most transformative things for me. It was one of the biggest privileges of my life. I think I'll go down, like, if they ask me on my deathbed, things that you did, put that down, please. Like everything else, certificates, like awards, I don't care. That is the thing. And I wanted to lean more into that feeling, but also that sense of deep purpose, of, okay, everything that I do, I want it to be able to give women who have less that foot up that they need to experience their own fullness of life and joy. Like, I've been deeply pondering on just my own story and where God. God has taken me from. And just being that teenage girl who didn't have any hope for anything, didn't want to go to uni, didn't want to live past 17. That girl needed someone not just to speak life into her, but to really give her access to seeing that there is more to life. And I just want to be that woman who allows women to see that there's more to life, but also access it. So it looks like philanthropy, it looks like charity. It looks like really moving in different sectors to make sure women, and girls in particular, have access to the resources they need to become the woman they've been called to be. And I'm really, really excited for that. I feel like that's the deep work I've been longing to do in the world. And I also love to talk as you guys. And I think God has really been allowing me to see that I don't just speak well and I don't just have a lot to share. I also love talking to women, which is why I love what we do with the podcast. But I'm looking forward to interviewing more people, interviewing more women, hosting more conversations, convening people to have real, raw, honest, transformational conversations online and in person. And I. I'm really looking forward to what God does through that. And yeah, man, I mean, looking to start a couple more businesses. So I'll be in my entrepreneurship bag. Heavy. Continually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beauty stuff, wellness stuff. Yeah, yeah. Really excited for it all. Production stuff as well, which is nice. I've. I've been Jumping back into my love for storytelling, I think, think especially through film.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Film and writing. Writing films and stories. And I'm just like, ah, you know what, God, I, I think I see what you're trying to do in this area and let me lean in a little bit. Let me lean in a little bit. Even music, writing music. Oh, yeah. Like, I think what you said around getting in touch with the things you love when you were a child. Yeah, yeah, I resonate. And, and just, just music and singing again and, oh, all of these creative things. I'm just like, you know what, God, I, I, I accept that I can be a multifaceted woman and I'm fine with that. I'm fine with no longer trying to put Courtney in a box.

[Renee]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

So, yeah, that's the future for me, man. Doing a lot and hopefully doing it well.

[Renee]

Oh, girl, you going five. And I really pray that you do. You. I miss Dehy. I am excited for you. I'm looking forward to seeing all of these things manifest and long, messy DJ content.

[Courtney]

Amen. Amen. Well, wow.

[Renee]

My goodness.

[Courtney]

Wow.

[Renee]

Bring on season seven then.

[Courtney]

Bring something like that. Isn't it seven? Wow. Sisters, we hope that you've enjoyed this conversation. Welcome to season seven of two, my sisters, a completely new beginning. And so we're, we're really excited. I'm really excited.

[Renee]

Make sure that you're part of the revolution, ladies. Make sure. No because real you like. I don't want you guys to be behind. So. To sisters old, we love you. To sisters new, we love you. Well, make sure that you are following us on all of our social media places, the Instagrams, the tick tocks, all of the things we are there over at. To my sisterhood Online, all platforms. And make sure that you subscribe to our YouTube and make sure also follow us on Spotify. Guys, follow us.

[Courtney]

We're about to shake things up.

[Renee]

We're back. We promise we're not running away or nothing like that. Like, we're back. So make sure that you are part of the movement.

[Courtney]

Absolutely. Love it. And the mailing list is back. Weekly love notes from us, clearing and growing tips and exclusive access to events, gatherings, and so many things that we are doing. So make sure you sign up to the mailing list. WW I was about to say at to my Sisterhood. That ain't it. No, that's not. Go to our website, www.to my sisters.com. just pop in your email. It's free, it's cheerful and we'll be there. But yeah, I'VE loved this and I'm glad we're back. And I'm glad I'm back with you.

[Renee]

It's been an absolute privilege.

[Courtney]

Yes man, it's be a privilege and

[Renee]

long may it continue.

[Courtney]

Amen. Locked in. Amen. Well, as always, keep glowing and growing.

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