Today, Explained – "Why fan fiction is everywhere"
Aired April 10, 2026, on Vox Media Podcast Network
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Episode Overview
This episode delves into the explosion of fan fiction—how it’s moved from niche internet communities into mainstream popular culture, publishing, and even Hollywood. Hosts and guests unpack its history, the platforms at the center of the movement (like Archive of Our Own), and the resulting cultural shifts as fanfiction becomes increasingly commercialized. Through interviews with journalist Rachel Kersey and scholar Francesca Coppa, the episode explores what happens—and what’s at stake—when a grassroots, gift-driven phenomenon collides with traditional markets and mass audiences.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Mainstreaming of Fan Fiction
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Fan fiction’s moment: The hosts set the tone with references to "shipping" (pairing favorite characters in imagined relationships), and note the collision of fandom subcultures with mainstream media.
- “Fan fiction is having a moment. The fans are shipping Buck and Eddie and Draco and Hermione... they’re getting Shane Hollander pregnant.” (00:00, Host)
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Rachel Kersey, freelance reporter: Explains the explosion of interest and acceptance in fanfiction:
- “As soon as I began to read fan fiction, I realized how much it is in the ether of so much of pop culture and the book industry and film and television... people just want to talk about it more and more.” (00:12, Rachel Kersey)
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Big tent vs. focused definition:
- Anything derived from pre-existing works could be “fanfic” (even literary classics), but that definition may be too broad. The modern understanding:
- “A more narrow version... would be these transformative works... that exist in the gift economy. And this is key: people are doing [fanfiction] not to make money... but because it is fun or exciting or community building.” (02:20, Rachel Kersey)
- Anything derived from pre-existing works could be “fanfic” (even literary classics), but that definition may be too broad. The modern understanding:
2. Brief History and Evolution of Fan Fiction
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Origins in zine culture:
- Began in the last century, notably with "Star Trek" fan zines.
- Online fandoms remained isolated until platforms like fanfiction.net brought them together:
- “If you like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you might like Supernatural...” (04:16, Rachel Kersey)
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Rise of major platforms:
- Archive of Our Own (AO3) is now the dominant archive:
- “It is organized in such a way that it’s clear it was created by librarians... you would be amazed at just how extensive the archives are.” (04:43, Rachel Kersey)
- Archive of Our Own (AO3) is now the dominant archive:
3. From Subculture to Publishing Hit
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Fanfic to bestseller to blockbuster:
- "50 Shades of Grey" began as "Twilight" fanfiction, opening the commercial floodgates:
- “'50 Shades of Grey'... completely changed the game.” (05:38, Rachel Kersey)
- Publishers previously saw fanfic as “the redheaded stepchild... if you were writing fanfiction, it was because you couldn’t come up with your own characters.” (06:27, Publishing industry expert)
- Now, publishers embrace fanfic roots as a marketing tool.
- "50 Shades of Grey" began as "Twilight" fanfiction, opening the commercial floodgates:
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Popular fanfic tropes in mainstream books:
- "The Love Hypothesis," originally a "Rey/Kylo Ren" Star Wars fanfic, is cited as a key example.
- Book marketing borrows fanfic terminology (e.g., “one bed trope,” “enemies to lovers,” “grumpy sunshine”), and the first-person present tense trend from fanfic is now popular in publishing.
- “A lot of really popular trends, even in terms of writing, began in fan fiction.” (08:41, Rachel Kersey)
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Diversity and representation:
- Fanfiction fostered joyous queer romance and diverse perspectives before they broke into mainstream genres.
4. Why Is Fanfic Taken Seriously Now?
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Changing attitudes in publishing:
- Editors, agents, and publishers are increasingly drawn from people who grew up in fandoms.
- Fanfic represents demonstrated demand (“millions of views” on stories is a safer bet for publishers).
- “If you look at some of these fanfics on Archive of Our Own, they have millions of views.” (09:39, Rachel Kersey)
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New questions:
- Tension between fanfic’s roots in gift culture and its role as a pipeline to commercial publishing poses challenges and generates debate.
- “What does that mean for fanfic as an art or as a community?” (10:51, Rachel Kersey)
- Tension between fanfic’s roots in gift culture and its role as a pipeline to commercial publishing poses challenges and generates debate.
5. AO3, Community, and Gift Economy
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AO3’s mission and ethos:
- Francesca Coppa (professor, co-founder of Organization for Transformative Works/OTW) explains why AO3 was created:
- “[Venture capitalists] clearly thought, great, let’s commodify and sell this. And the community that I’m a part of, we believe in a gift economy... We founded a nonprofit specifically to create an archive of our own.” (13:45, Francesca Coppa)
- AO3 is intentionally non-commercial, echoing Virginia Woolf’s “A Room of One’s Own.”
- Francesca Coppa (professor, co-founder of Organization for Transformative Works/OTW) explains why AO3 was created:
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User demographics and intergenerational community:
- AO3 is “12 years old” (minimum age to register, but users range from teens to octogenarians).
- Kirk/Spock stories from the 1960s are being digitized and archived.
- “Grandma was writing fan fiction with a typewriter. And like now grandma’s online.” (15:16, Francesca Coppa)
- “It is overwhelmingly women. There is a lot of non-binary, a lot of queerness... Fanfiction meets needs that the market has up until now not really been very interested in supplying.” (16:45, Francesca Coppa)
- The community’s emotional depth is a draw: “I didn’t know I could have these big feelings. And we’re like, oh, we knew.” (17:32, Francesca Coppa)
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Fandom etiquette and influx of newcomers:
- Huge growth has fostered debates about etiquette, membership, and community norms.
- “Fandom etiquette has been out the window in this fandom. This is literally like fandom 100, not even 101.” (17:56, Francesca Coppa)
- “The AO3 makes no money, and nobody involved with it gets paid... The root of amateur is amare. It’s love. We do this for love.” (18:15, Francesca Coppa)
- Huge growth has fostered debates about etiquette, membership, and community norms.
6. Capitalism, Community, and the Future
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Resisting “inshitification”:
- The hosts explore the tension between capitalist pressures and AO3’s community values.
- AO3 is “structurally uninshittable” because it has no commercial customers or services to degrade for profit.
- “We don’t have customers, and we aren’t a business... We don’t allow commercial activity on our site or anything like that... We do none of these things that we could do... in order to make a lot.” (20:13, Francesca Coppa)
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Inclusion, learning, and standards:
- New users sometimes need to learn the culture, but community norms are passed on:
- “You kind of have to play a little bit by our rules. But they’re nice rules.” (21:21, Francesca Coppa)
- New users sometimes need to learn the culture, but community norms are passed on:
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Legal and cultural challenges ahead:
- Future depends on intellectual property law; tightening could threaten fan fiction as creative remix.
- “If they change the laws on intellectual property... I think they’re bad for culture. Not just about fan fiction, but broadly.” (22:02, Francesca Coppa)
- Ongoing goal: preserve stories for future generations, even if the idea is both inspiring and mortifying for some.
- “Your grandchildren can go and read the fic you wrote when you were in high school... that’s what we want.” (23:08, Francesca Coppa)
- Future depends on intellectual property law; tightening could threaten fan fiction as creative remix.
Notable Quotes
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“Fan fiction is having a moment. The fans are shipping Buck and Eddie and Draco and Hermione... getting Shane Hollander pregnant.” (00:00, Host)
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“As soon as I began to read fan fiction, I realized how much it is in the ether of pop culture... I don’t think [this level of understanding] was there before...” (00:12, Rachel Kersey)
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“A more narrow version of understanding fanfic would be these transformative works... that exist in the gift economy... not to make money... fun or exciting or community-building to do.” (02:20, Rachel Kersey)
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“Fifty Shades of Grey... completely changed the game.” (05:38, Rachel Kersey)
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"AO3 is... a non profit, non commercial space... that would preserve our fiction and our hobby without it turning into some tech bros commodified dream." (14:37, Francesca Coppa)
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“Grandma was writing fan fiction with a typewriter. And like now grandma’s online.” (15:16, Francesca Coppa)
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“Fandom etiquette has been out the window in this fandom. This is literally like fandom 100, not even 101.” (17:56, Francesca Coppa)
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“The root of amateur is amare. It’s love. We do this for love.” (18:15, Francesca Coppa)
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“We don’t have customers, and we aren’t a business... We do none of these things that we could do... in order to make a lot.” (20:13, Francesca Coppa)
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“Your grandchildren can go and read the fic you wrote when you were in high school... that’s what we want.” (23:08, Francesca Coppa)
Timeline of Key Segments
- 00:00 – Shipping and fanfiction’s viral moment
- 00:53 – Rachel Kersey describes the rise of mass fanfic awareness
- 01:37–02:20 – Definitions: broad vs. narrow (gift economy focus)
- 03:30–04:43 – Fanfic history: from zines to fanfiction.net to AO3
- 05:38–07:45 – Commercial breakthrough: 50 Shades, publishing attitudes shift, example of profitable fanfic roots
- 08:08–09:22 – Mainstreaming of fanfic tropes, writing style, and queer romance
- 09:39–10:51 – Why fanfic is taken seriously today, and new debates about legitimacy and future
- 13:15–14:37 – Francesca Coppa on AO3’s philosophy and mission
- 15:16–17:32 – Intergenerational community, diversity, emotional power of fanfic
- 17:50–18:15 – Etiquette, culture shock, and volunteerism
- 20:13–21:50 – Inshitification, capitalist tension, AO3’s non-commercial model
- 22:02–23:08 – Future challenges: IP law, cultural preservation
Final Thoughts
This episode illuminates how fanfiction has become a creative force shaping contemporary storytelling, publishing, and even film. As commercial and communal forces collide, core questions remain: Can fanfic's gift-driven, inclusive ethos survive the pressures of mainstream success? What do shifting legal and economic realities mean for its future? Whether you’re a reader, writer, or outsider, Today, Explained offers plenty to ponder about how stories belong to—and are reinvented by—everyone.
