
Andy Burnham has said his arrival in power will be a ‘circuit breaker’ moment for Britain, promising that his government will bring the ‘biggest changes in 40 years’. Lucy Hough speaks to political correspondent Alexandra Topping
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Alexandra Topping
This is the Guardian. He's just in front of these two microphones and wham. Straight into it, really looking like he was enjoying himself.
Andy Burnham
We will make this moment a circuit breaker for Britain, bringing forward the biggest changes in the last 40 years.
Alexandra Topping
There's like a static electricity in the air at these events and Starmer just stood there. He. He look statesmanlike, as he often does, but he did not really look emotional. He looked like someone who wanted to get it over and done with.
Andy Burnham
I go with good grace, I go with a smile and I go proud of everything that we have achieved from the Guardians today.
Lucy Hoff
In focus, this is the latest with me, Lucy Hoff. Well, it's been a huge political day already with the. The transfer of power from former Prime Minister Sakir Starmer handing over to Andy Burnham. Alexandra Topping, our political correspondent, you were there at Downing street to see this sort of transfer take place. What was the vibe like? And let's talk about Andy Burnham's speech, first of all.
Alexandra Topping
I mean, it's an extraordinary scene being outside Downing street at one of these moments. It really, you know, you are seeing history happen and it happens really quickly. So, you know, we had the guests coming in for Keir Starmer and then kind of before you know it, Andy Burnham was back from seeing the King and he was getting all the applause and the hugs and the adoration from the crowds who were there. It was kind of crazy.
Lucy Hoff
And what was so striking is that he wasn't using the lectern, which almost all of his predecessors have used. There was this sort of Burnham style informality already. What do you think?
Alexandra Topping
He was wearing a suit, though. He was wearing a suit. That was a departure. No, it was really interesting, actually, because there was a very different vibe. You know, you have the kind of very formal, quite static Starmer in front of his podium and then Podium Guy, who, for those who are interested, there's a whole space on the Internet dedicated to Podium Guy. But Burnham arrived. He had a lot of love given into him. You know, he. He spent a long time hugging and. And shaking hands with people. And then he went to speak and the applause continued. He's just in front of these two microphones and he whams straight into it, looking into the camera, speaking without notes, looking very relaxed, you know, serious, quite solemn, but, you know, really looking like he was enjoying himself.
Lucy Hoff
Yeah, so there were a few things that he. He spoke about that sort of expanded from the policy speech he gave a coup ago, which was about sort of his version of Manchesterism, about devolution about local government. But today he spoke about homelessness, he spoke about housing and he spoke about a 10 year plan. There's been some criticism before. Yeah, we've had that one many times before. But, but you know, I think there's been some criticism in the sort of hours after the speech that there was still not quite enough detail that some people were hoping for. He says there will be more detail on cost of living tomor. But how would you break down what he spoke about in terms of those specifics?
Alexandra Topping
I don't think there was a huge departure from what we already heard from his main speech when he accepted the Labour leadership on Friday. There was a reprise of the idea that Great Britain gave up a lot of control during the Thatcher years and he wants to, you know, push for renationalization. So, but linking that with people's the cost of living crisis right now and saying part of the reason that we're in this crisis is because we've lost control. So, so that we've heard before, the, the pledge to end street homelessness is new. He did pledge that as the mayor of Greater Manchester. He failed, interestingly. So it's quite bold that he would pledge that again. But homelessness really, genuinely is something that's really personally very important to Andy Burnham. You know.
Lucy Hoff
Right.
Alexandra Topping
As mayor of Manchester, he gave 15 of his wages to, to ending homelessness schemes. So that was a big one. And I think there's also, you know, this idea that he and his team have recognized that, okay, we've got to have a long term plan because we, we have to fix big structural problems with the country, but people also need help now. And I think he's very focused on that idea of what can we do now? And also importantly, he said, when I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do now and I'm going to tell you how I'm going to pay for it. So we'll all wait and see what that means. Yeah.
Lucy Hoff
And that's an announcement that's going to come tomorrow. Right. This announcement on cost of living support that has been fully costed, apparently. So that implies his team has been hard at work at that in the weeks since this all began. A timetable that's much shorter than his team were hoping for. So it's been a busy day for Andy Burnham, hasn't it? Because as soon as he went into number 10, along with his wife, he was on the phone to President Donald Trump, fresh from his appearance at the World cup in New Jersey, not a popular appearance by the loud booing at him. But that's Burnham's first call with a world leader since becoming Prime Minister. Right, yeah.
Alexandra Topping
And I don't think that's any surprise, you know, despite Trump's unpopularity in this country, and quietly, and not so quietly amongst Labour MPs, it remains the single most important relationship that Great Britain has. Andy Burnham knows that he's not going to jeopardise the so called special relationship. And he was also set to have a call with President Zelensky of Ukraine this afternoon. And we know that he'll be talking to other world leaders. Which of them he listens to, we don't know yet. But I think what happens with Burnham and Trump's relationship will be really interesting. When people have talked about this, you know, in his camp, off the record, they say, oh, well, you know, Andy likes. Andy gets on with people. Andy, you know, Andy's charming. And, well, maybe that will help. Starmer thought he was charming for a little while with Trump, but it didn't seem to last long.
Lucy Hoff
Yeah. So on that, the last time we've heard from Keir Starmer as Prime Minister, behind the Lectern, a speech that I think he was determined to leave with a smile, with a lot of positivity, talking about the transformation of the party in the six years since he became leader of the Opposition. You were there for that speech. How would you describe the tone, the look amongst the people standing behind him as he walked away from number 10 for probably the last time?
Alexandra Topping
It's really interesting because you can. There's like a static electricity in the air at these events. And even though, you know, it's kind of insane next to Downing street for one of these big set pieces, there's camera people everywhere, there's stands, there's bags, everyone's falling over and getting in each other's way and it's getting really grumpy. And Starmer just stood there. He looked statesmanlike, as he often does, but he did not really look emotional. He looked like someone who wanted to get it over and done with, take his wife's hand and get the hell out of Dodge. And to be honest, that's the vibe that came over in his speech. It was quite short.
Lucy Hoff
He, like you said, three and a half minutes.
Alexandra Topping
Three and a half minutes. He just recapped his sense of achievement and pride, if you like, that he felt like he had left the country in a better state than. And he inherited it. And, you know, I think he wanted to leave with dignity so that we didn't see tears like we had done with Theresa May. We just saw a man who said what he had to say and then got in his car and drove away.
Lucy Hoff
Yeah, no whistling Ella, David Cameron or Boris Johnson's. Them's the brakes before he got into the car. So it'd be very interesting to see what Keir Starmer chooses to do next in his his career, political or otherwise. But for now, Lexi, thank you so much for your time.
Alexandra Topping
Thanks for having me.
Lucy Hoff
That's it for today. My huge thanks again to Lexi topping, the Guardian's political correspondent. You can keep up with all her reporting and our live coverage of this story over@theguardian.com and do head over to our sister podcast, Politics Weekly, where Pippa Creera and Kieran Stacey will be boring down analyzing the details of a historic day in politics. Thanks for listening to this episode of the latest Today in Focus will be back in your feeds as usual tomorrow morning. The latest will be back tomorrow night. This episode was presented by me, Lucy Hoff. It was produced by Angus Neal. The senior producer was Ryan Ramgobin. The executive producer was Zoe Hitch. This is the Guardian.
Podcast: Today in Focus (The Guardian)
Host: Lucy Hough
Guest: Alexandra Topping, Political Correspondent
Date: July 20, 2026
Duration: ~10 minutes
This episode covers the historic transition of power in the UK, as Andy Burnham becomes Prime Minister, succeeding Keir Starmer. Host Lucy Hough discusses the atmosphere on Downing Street with political correspondent Alexandra Topping, unpacking Burnham’s first moments in office, the tone and content of both Burnham’s and Starmer’s speeches, and the pressing policy issues and international context surrounding the new administration.
[01:19]
“It really, you know, you are seeing history happen and it happens really quickly... before you know it, Andy Burnham was back from seeing the King and he was getting all the applause and the hugs and the adoration from the crowds who were there.” — Alexandra Topping [01:19]
[01:49]
“He's just in front of these two microphones and wham. Straight into it… looking into the camera, speaking without notes, looking very relaxed, you know, serious, quite solemn, but really looking like he was enjoying himself.” — Alexandra Topping [02:01]
[02:51]
“There's been some criticism in the sort of hours after the speech that there was still not quite enough detail that some people were hoping for. He says there will be more detail on cost of living tomorrow.” — Lucy Hough [02:51]
[03:35]
“The pledge to end street homelessness is new. He did pledge that as the mayor of Greater Manchester. He failed, interestingly. So it's quite bold that he would pledge that again. But homelessness really, genuinely is something that's really personally very important to Andy Burnham.” — Alexandra Topping [03:35]
[04:22]
“He's very focused on that idea of what can we do now? And also importantly, he said, when I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do now and I'm going to tell you how I'm going to pay for it.” — Alexandra Topping [04:22]
[04:59]
“This announcement on cost of living support that has been fully costed, apparently... a timetable that's much shorter than his team were hoping for.” — Lucy Hough [04:59]
[05:40]
“Despite Trump's unpopularity in this country, and quietly, and not so quietly amongst Labour MPs, it remains the single most important relationship that Great Britain has. Andy Burnham knows that he's not going to jeopardise the so called special relationship.” — Alexandra Topping [05:40]
[06:41]
“He looked statesmanlike, as he often does, but he did not really look emotional. He looked like someone who wanted to get it over and done with, take his wife's hand and get the hell out of Dodge.” — Alexandra Topping [07:12]
The episode captures the energy, uncertainty, and newness of a dramatic transfer of power. Burnham’s hands-on, informal (yet determined) style is contrasted sharply with Starmer’s formality and reserved final appearance. The hosts bring a mix of on-the-ground excitement and critical analysis, noting both the opportunities and potential pitfalls facing the new PM—especially around big pledges with little immediate detail. The international scene and domestic crises ensure that Burnham steps in with both immediate and long-term tests to come.