Trump extends Iran ceasefire: can a deal be made? – The Latest

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Today in Focus
Episode: Trump extends Iran ceasefire: can a deal be made? – The Latest
Date: April 22, 2026
Host: Lucy Hough
Guest: Patrick Wintour (Diplomatic Editor, The Guardian)

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Episode Overview

This episode covers the rapidly evolving situation around the U.S.-Iran ceasefire, focusing on Donald Trump’s unexpected decision to extend the ceasefire indefinitely, the rising tensions in the Strait of Hormuz, and the diplomatic gridlock preventing meaningful progress toward peace. Diplomatic Editor Patrick Wintour provides insights on the motivations for Trump’s policy shifts, the impact of military blockades, and the immense socioeconomic toll on Iranians.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Ceasefire Extension: Motives and Confusion

• Uncertain Deadline:
  There was widespread confusion over when the agreed ceasefire was supposed to end, with conflicting timelines reported.
  ([02:49] “Such as the confusion is that people couldn't actually agree at the point at which the ceasefire was supposed to expire...” – Patrick Wintour)

• Trump’s U-Turn:
  Initially threatening renewed military action, Trump abruptly extended the ceasefire indefinitely.

  • Possible Motivations:
    • Reluctance to resume full-scale conflict, recognizing the immense cost and past consequences
    • Domestic electoral considerations, as rising casualties and oil prices sour public opinion and threaten midterm prospects
    • Pressure from international actors (notably Pakistan) and economic factors
      ([02:49] “He's realized that the price of full scale aerial action... is too high and he wants to find a peace settlement.” – Patrick Wintour)

2. The Strategic Battle in the Strait of Hormuz

• Escalation at Sea:
  Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) seized two ships and reportedly attacked a third following U.S. blockades.
  ([01:25], [03:57] – Patrick Wintour, Lucy Hough)

• Blockade Dynamics:

  • U.S. Blockade: Blocking Iranian ports to cripple Iran’s oil exports and revenue.
  • Iranian Response: Seizing shipping to maintain a “chokehold” on global oil flow and keep prices high.
  • Both sides aim to demonstrate they’re not losing, bolstering their negotiation leverage.
    ([04:43] “20% of oil and most commodities go through that strait. So the Iranians are continuing to use this metric of what is the price of oil. As long as it's going up, they're happy.” – Patrick Wintour)

3. Trump’s Erratic Messaging and Its Diplomatic Consequences

• Contradiction and Chaos:
  Trump’s frequent and conflicting social media posts are cited as a major obstacle, creating uncertainty among diplomats, not only in Iran but in other global contexts.
  ([06:49] “It's not just Iranians...they find it very, very difficult because they get conflicting messages from the White House…” – Patrick Wintour)

• Perception of Strength:
  Trump’s public posturing may be aimed at projecting victory, but this hardens Iran’s resolve to not negotiate under perceived threat or humiliation.
  ([06:49] “There's a ...school of thought inside Iran...they've now proved themselves...capable of standing up to Trump time and again.” – Patrick Wintour)

4. Stalemate in Peace Negotiations

• Deadlock Over Blockades:

  • U.S. Demand: Iran must lift its shipping blockade.
  • Iranian Demand: U.S. must end its ports blockade.
    Both sides refuse to back down, blocking even the start of new negotiations.
    ([08:15] “The Key Iranian demand is that the American blockade ends, and the key US Demand is the Iranian blockade ends. And that is just to get people to the starting gate...” – Patrick Wintour)

• Behind the Scenes:

  • Pakistani mediation efforts are ongoing, but not going well.
  • No party appears willing to risk all-out war, but the present “limbo” is more active and dangerous than it appears to outside observers.
    ([08:15] “I don't think those behind-the-scenes talks...mediated by Pakistan, are going very well either...We're in a very difficult position where neither side wants to back down, but neither side really wants to go for all out war.” – Patrick Wintour)

5. The Human Cost Within Iran

• Mass Unemployment & Economic Pain:

  • An estimated 2 million Iranians have lost their jobs since the conflict began.
  • Trump claims the regime is losing $500 million a day.
    ([09:29] “For Iranians, there's an estimated 2 million people who've lost their jobs since the start of the conflict, which is, you know, an unbelievably large amount of people.” – Lucy Hough)

• Internet Blackout:

  • A more than 50-day internet shutdown has crippled commerce, with even senior Iranian politicians demanding its end.
  • The disconnect between political/security factions inside Iran is widening.
    ([10:03] “The demand for the restrictions on the Internet to be lifted is repeated, and it's actually now coming from quite senior politicians inside Iran itself.” – Patrick Wintour)

• Inflation and Food Prices:

  • Soaring food inflation is beginning to rival other economic crises in severity.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trump’s Reluctance for Further War:
  "[Trump] was talking about bombing every bridge, every power station… and actually the reality is that… the price of full scale aerial action… is too high and he wants to find a peace settlement.”
  — Patrick Wintour ([02:49])

• On the Stakes for Ceasefire Negotiations:
  “We're in a very difficult position where neither side wants to back down, but neither side really wants to go for all out war… There is a real conflict going on in the Strait and how that plays out is going to be critical to whether the talks recommence.”
  — Patrick Wintour ([01:25], [08:15])

• On Iran’s Perceptions and Resolve:
  “There's a… school of thought inside Iran… they're not going to feel trampled upon or… negotiate when they're under threat. And… they've now proved themselves… capable of standing up to Trump time and again."
  — Patrick Wintour ([06:49])

• On the Human Reality in Iran:
  “The demand for the restrictions on the Internet to be lifted is repeated, and it's actually now coming from quite senior politicians inside Iran itself… They are dependent on the Internet to trade. And that's why there is such high unemployment."
  — Patrick Wintour ([10:03])

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• [01:25] – Seizure of ships by Iran’s Revolutionary Guard; significance of escalation at sea
• [02:49] – Trump extends ceasefire indefinitely; analysis of his motivations and political pressures
• [04:43] – Description of dueling blockades and their intended impacts
• [06:49] – The difficulty for diplomats: Trump’s conflicting messages; effect on peace prospects
• [08:15] – Core demands from both sides; Pakistan’s troubled mediation; summary of the stalemate
• [09:29] – Human and economic costs within Iran, including mass unemployment
• [10:03] – The ongoing internet shutdown and further socioeconomic impacts

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Conclusion

This episode provides a concise yet thorough exploration of the high-stakes, deeply complicated standoff between the U.S. and Iran, as shifting tactics, economic pressure, and public posturing all collide to block real progress. Patrick Wintour’s grounded diplomatic perspective and analysis highlight why, despite rhetorical moves toward peace, the reality on both the diplomatic and human front remains deeply fraught and unresolved.

Transcript

[Lucy Half]

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[Patrick Wintour]

It is significant. They're now starting to seize ships because they need to ram home to the Americans that they feel they're winning this war. Or at least they're not losing this war. Iran's Revolutionary Guard says it is back on the attack in the Strait of Hormuz. Facing a blockade from the Americans, they have attacked three cargo ships this morning. We're in a very difficult position where neither side wants to back down, but neither side really wants to go for all out war. There is a real conflict going on in the Strait and how that plays out is going to be critical to whether the talks recommend.

[Lucy Half]

Iran says it seized two ships in the Strait of Hormuz and a third has reportedly been attacked after Donald Trump extends the ceasefire indefinitely. From the Guardians today In Focus, this is the latest. With me, Lucy Half. Well, I'm joined by Patrick Wintour, our diplomatic editor. Thanks for dialing in, Patrick. So it's been yet another slightly confusing week. There was supposed to be a ceasefire that was due to expire at 8pm Eastern Standard Time in the U.S. tonight, according to Pakistan. But Trump has now late last night, extended the ceasefire indefinitely. Prior to that, he threatened yet more bombing, more military violence. Why the U turn? What's going on? Is this pressure from Pakistan, is it the markets or is there something else kind of behind the scenes?

[Patrick Wintour]

Well, I mean, such as the confusion is that people couldn't actually agree at the point at which the ceasefire was supposed to expire. People had different timelines for it. Yes, I think it's a multiplicity of reasons why he's decided to do this. And it's not the first Time, he's delayed some kind of deadline or other. But I think it's a mixture of he's actually doesn't really want to return to a full scale conflict. I mean, he was talking about bombing every bridge, every power station and it was all Back to the Stone Ages, part seven. And actually the reality is that I think he's realized that, that the price of full scale aerial action that he's undertaken in the past is too high and he wants to find a peace settlement. So he's switching mode and trying to think about different ways to put pressure on the Iranians. And I think also there is more and more evidence about what's going to happen in the midterm elections. I know this all seem a long way away, but it's starting to bake in a bit about how many seats they might lose in the Senate and how many they might lose in the Congress. And that would be, if it was as bad as some people are predicting, that would be the effective end of his presidency.

[Lucy Half]

Goodness, what a thought. And in no small part, and in fact probably mainly to do with this war in Iran, which has so little support from the American public and that opposition increasing. Meanwhile, the situation in the Strait of Hormuz is very febrile, very volatile. When we last spoke, Trump had imposed this US blockade on Iranian ports to prevent those Iranian ships leaving, or at least monitor them. There's now been the seizure of two ships, allegedly by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, the irgc. A third ship has been attacked this morning, reportedly. We understand. So what's going on? I mean, this doesn't feel like fertile ground for ceasefire negotiations.

[Patrick Wintour]

Yes, I mean, I think the ghastly phrase, the kinetic activity has switched from land to sea and there are these two different blockades, one laid over the other. There's the blockade on Iranian ports and the purpose behind that is to in effect make it impossible for Iran to start producing, continue to produce oil. Within a matter of a fortnight. It's been estimated if they can't get their oil out, then the oil production will have to come to a halt. And that could cause some permanent damage to some of the oil installations in Iran. So they lose revenue and their industry, which is the most important revenue generating industry, gets crippled. I mean, that's the American plan and obviously the Iranian plan, which they're stepping up by now, seizing ships, is to keep the chokehold on the straight and 20% of oil and most commodities go through that strait. So the Iranians are continuing to use this metric of what is the price of oil. As long as it's going up, they're happy. But I think it is significant. They're now starting to seize ships because they need to really ram home to the Americans that they feel they're winning this war, or at least they're not losing this war, and that they're in a totally resolute position that then will feed back into what the both sides feel they should do in terms of returning to talks in Islamabad, because they're just both strengthening their hands ahead of those talks ever happening.

[Lucy Half]

Yeah. And you've written a great piece about how Trump's erratic strategy is really proving an obstruction to the ceasefire process or at least where it moves from here, given that it's been extended indefinitely. But talks seem to be stalled and very uncertain. I mean, Trump is posting, as per your reporting, kind of at least seven truth social posts a day, often with incredibly contradictory messages. What are the sorts of conversations you've been having with diplomats sort of involved in the various engaged parties?

[Patrick Wintour]

It's not just Iranians. I mean, for some strange reasons, I was with some diplomats last week night from the Caucasus and they were just saying that. And they've got their own kind of peace deal going on which Trump supposed to be engineering. And they find it very, very difficult because they get conflicting messages from the White House about the kind of agreement they're supposed to be striking. It's not just an Iranian problem, but particularly over the weekend there was a selection of tweets which were very triumphalist by Trump. And I think it's now become a self standing problem. The way in which Trump is using the media and trying suggest that he's already won this war when I think it's very deep in the Iranian psyche and it might be in many countries psyche, they're not going to feel trampled upon or going to negotiate when they're under threat. And there's a kind of school of thought inside Iran that they've now proved themselves, have gone up the league table of great powers and they prove themselves to be capable of standing up to Trump time and again.

[Lucy Half]

So what next for the peace talks? Because J.D. vance, the Vice President, has postponed a planned trip to Pakistan. Right. And Iran says it won't proceed without an end to the blockade. And you know, both sides, the US And Iran are kind of trading military threats. So where do you think we're likely to go from here?

[Patrick Wintour]

Well, I think we're in a, we're in a difficulty, to be honest. I mean, I think the Key Iranian demand is that the American blockade ends, and the key US Demand is the Iranian blockade ends. And that is just to get people to the starting gate, which is to recommence negotiations. So it's very difficult. And what's going on at the moment is obviously this back and forth about the various blockades, but there's also behind the scenes negotiations happening about what would happen when the two sides met, because it would all be choreographed. It wouldn't be choreographed to the last minute, but there would be certain assumptions that progress was going to be made on two or three issues. And at the moment, I don't think those behind the scenes talks going on, mediated by Pakistan are going very well either because I think the Iranians have been quite tough in what they're demanding and the Americans aren't relenting. So we're in a very difficult position where neither side wants to back down, but neither side really wants to go for all out war. So we're getting this kind of surrogate battle which I think is more than limbo. Some people describe it as limbo. I don't think it is. There is a real conflict going on in the Strait and how that plays out is to be critical to whether the talks recommence.

[Lucy Half]

And just lastly, Patrick, I mean, like you say, it's a limbo, but it's a limbo, particularly for all of us who are, you know, as consumers paying the cost of this war. But for Iranians, there's an estimated 2 million people who've lost their jobs since the start of the conflict, which is, you know, an unbelievably large amount of people. Trump estimates that Iran is. The Iranian regime is losing $500 million a day because of this. But I just wonder if you can give us as a time Iran watcher kind of sense of, you know, how hard this has become for people living in Iran.

[Patrick Wintour]

Well, I think the difficulties largely arising out of the blockage on the Internet and this has now gone on for more than 50 days. And certainly when you, when the stuff I'm reading out of Iran, the demand for the restrictions on the Internet to be lifted is repeated, and it's actually now coming from quite senior politicians inside Iran itself. And there's a conflict between the political side and the security side. And the reason it matters so much is that as in any modern economy, which to a degree Iran is, they are dependent on the Internet to trade. And that's why there is such high unemployment. And the numbers starting to come in about inflation, particularly food inflation are really quite frightening as well.

[Lucy Half]

Yeah. So an enormous human cost. Patrick, thank you as ever for your time.

[Patrick Wintour]

No problem.

[Lucy Half]

That's it for today. My huge thanks again to Patrick Wintle, our diplomatic editor. You can keep up with his reporting and analysis [e-mail] and I do really recommend his piece. He talks too how Trump's erratic commentary is the real block to an Iran deal. I'd also give a big shout out to yesterday's episode of Science Weekly. Ian Sample talks to our AI reporter Aisha down about a new model from AI company Anthropic that that they say is so powerful they won't release it to the public. Thanks for listening to this episode of the latest Today in Focus. We'll be back in your feeds as usual tomorrow morning. The latest will be back tomorrow night. This episode was presented by me, Lucy Hoff. It was produced by Bryony Moore. The senior producer was Ryan Ramgobin and the lead producer was Zoe Hitch. This is the guardian

[Patrick Wintour]

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