Lucy Hoff (2:49)

of tickets. Right.

Morwenna Ferrier (2:50)

Which is more than it was last year. And for a whole table, it's $350,000. It's got a lot to do with fashion, but it is also like, who's got the power, who are the big names? And also at a sort of interesting time for the industry because luxury fashion is kind of bottoming out a little bit. So they need money, basically. And this is kind of where Jeff Bezos has sort of stepped in now. He already has a relationship with Anna Wintour and Vogue in that Lauren Sanchez, his wife, Lauren Sanchez Bezos appeared on the COVID of Vogue last year. It was about her wedding. Anna Winter was quite involved in that side of things, helping her pick her dress. And so over the past eight or nine months, there's just been a kind of very sort of gradual sort of influx from the Bezos couple into the fashion industry. And we've kind of reached its kind of the tip of the iceberg here, which is funding or partially funding the Met Gala. And it's thought that they are donating 10 million. I don't know the exact figure, and there's kind of different figures kind of on the Internet, but it's a lot of money, basically.

Lucy Hoff (3:57)

I mean, Moena, in so many ways. Jeff Bezos needs no introduction, but obviously is in many ways emblematic of the toxicity of this tech bro billionaire class. The reported working conditions at Amazon, where he made his initial fortune, his recent purchase of the Washington Post, which has led to mass layoffs of hundreds of journalists there, his support, his close ties with the Trump administration, his initial donation of $1 million to Trump's inauguration fund, his attendance, along with other tech giants, of the inauguration itself, and his funding through Amazon Studios, of a documentary in inverted commas about Trump's wife Melania that has proved highly controversial. So the fact that this man with his wife are not just attending, but co chairing and sponsoring an event like the Met Gala speaks to something politically, doesn't it?

Morwenna Ferrier (4:55)

It has come. I mean, the timing is terrible, obviously, with laying everybody off like the Washington Post. So he's not, he's obviously not shy about his involvement in it. And some people describe the Zamet Gala as the big box clout store, which is kind of the idea that these people are kind of vying for cultural relevancy. The thing about fashion is people have an idea of it and it seems kind of rarefied and it seems exciting and exclusive. It's. It's something that, you know, even if all the money in the world, you can't necessarily access it. And I think that's kind of what these people with big money, what they want is the one thing they can't, apart from happiness, they can't necessarily get into that world. And they like to be associated with something quite rarefied and exclusive like that. The whole thing is of ripe with symbolism because it is obviously all about optics and it's about, you know, Amazon are selling clothes as well. And is this. The sort of circular aspect of this is kind of quite sort of startling. And that's kind of what makes it sort of feel so shocking because at the same time it's in the middle of New York, which you know, is obviously is a wealthy city, but there's, there's great growth, inequality, there's. And you have this one night where there's people with people kind of walking up these steps because essentially it's just a. Some steps. People walk up the steps and they go into a room. We don't see them. They have a dinner and they have a dance and they pay an extraordinary amount of money for it, but they do. Big people go like Kamala Harris went last year. I mean she went around, she slipped in the bag, but she still went. And people do say yes to it. It's hard to say no to Anna and I suspect, you know, with Bezos power and his influence, it will, people will find it hard. Well, have probably found it hard to say no to the invite this year as well.

Lucy Hoff (6:24)

Well, one person we, we know has said no is Sauran Mamdani, the new mayor of New York. And it is interesting the optics of this, as you say, these sort of by an event that by definition is so elitist happening in a city which has just voted in a socialist progressive mayor who has decided to boycott the event along with his wife for the first time.

Morwenna Ferrier (6:47)

Yeah, I mean it's not, I don't. It's funny because I don't know if he's technically hasn't boycotted it, he's just declined the invite. But yes, it's been for decades. Mayors have gone and as I said, lots of politicians do go. Interestingly, Trump is apparently bad, has been banned since 2017, which is interesting. So she obviously, she does have some integrity there. But obviously he was a big. The Trumps were a big kind of. They always went. And there doesn't seem to be much kind of, you know, the sort of crossover between ethics and the necklace doesn't seem to be a kind of, you know, it's not an obvious one, but yes, Mandani has declined. And I think it's, you know, it's very. It's very smart of him not to go, because when a few years ago in Alexandria, Ocasio Cortez went and she wore this sort of beautiful white dress with the words Tax the rich sort of painted on the back of it. And she obviously was using it as a kind of very canny photo opportunity for her, but there was a lot of backlash on the left and the right that she just didn't need to go, really. They don't pay for their tickets in their defence. But it's, you know, the problem is, is it is. It is a. It is. The whole thing is the performance. It is about how good you look. It's about clothes. And the clothes cost money. And so the optics just, you know, however you sort of try and frame it, attending is just not necessarily the right optics. If you do align yourself as a

Lucy Hoff (8:04)

sort of socialist, putting the politics aside, I mean, this was originally a fashion event organized by the most powerful woman in the fashion industry, who's been this sort of gatekeeper of taste so many decades now. I mean, I think it's safe to say Jeff Bezos is not renowned for his great sense of style. And the gala itself is being described as a tech bro ball, given that OpenAI, Snapchat, Meta have all bought these enormously expensive tables as well. So what does that tell us?

Morwenna Ferrier (8:38)

Well, I mean, it's interesting because there is an idea that it is very exclusive and very elitist and is all those things. It's invite only, but at the same time, she is a gatekeeper, but also she needs the right people there. It's all about optics. It's about having. It's about optics, it's about securing financial backing. And Jeff Boss is kind of at the back of that. And sort of wealthy people have always had their sort of play things. There's kind of a Gatsby element to it. Right. So it's. If you think of a culture institution, has always got slightly murky benefactors. And we know that from sort of the sacral involvement in lots of museums,

Lucy Hoff (9:12)

including the Met, where the gala takes place.

Morwenna Ferrier (9:15)

Exactly. And, you know, in many ways, it's just. He's just kind of another kind of version of that. The function of the gala itself, you know, it's a grotesque pageant, but this kind of. This very sort of nefarious sort of pipeline between the benefactors and the museum is not sort of unique to fashion. It's sort of sort of a striking representation of the way that rich people co ops arts and sport and culture and at the moment, the big tech has the money. Now, you know, this early this year, Mark Zuckerberg was on the front row at the Prada show.

Lucy Hoff (9:45)

Again, not, not a man known for his fantastic style.

Morwenna Ferrier (9:49)

No, no, no. And in some ways, I mean, the thing about Jeff Bezos is, is that he's definitely not known for his style. And I would say Lauren Sanchez is not particularly known for her style either, but she is, she has a great interest in it. There has been a kind of an idea that perhaps Jeff Bezos is trying to kind of bring Lauren into the fashion world to kind of give us sort of a bit of kind of, I don't know, cultural cachet in that sense. In the last sort of nine months or so, there have also been rumors that Bezos is possibly or he plans to buy Conde Nast. Now, there's nothing to back this up at all apart from the fact that they just seem to be quite involved in Vogue and in Conde Nast and the Met Gala kind of sort of plays into that rumor. But this would kind of, you know, this doesn't, does not fuel that rumor.

Lucy Hoff (10:32)

Oh, gosh. Jeff Bezos having yet more control over our media landscape doesn't fill the heart with gladness. But Moena, thank you so much for your time.

Morwenna Ferrier (10:40)

No problem.

Lucy Hoff (10:42)

That's it for today. My huge thanks again to Morwenna Ferrier, the Guardian's fashion and lifestyle editor. You can keep up with her writing over@theguardian.com and do listen to today's episode of Politics Weekly, which is looking at why people are turning their backs on traditional parties ahead of the local elections later this week. Thanks for listening to this episode of the latest Today in Focus. We'll be in your feeds as usual tomorrow morning. The latest will be with you tomorrow night. This episode was presented by me, Lucy Hoff. It was produced by Bryony Moore and Sam Grouet. The lead producer was Zoe Hitch. This is the Guardian

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