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Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
Middle-Class Is Wiped Out - RFK Jr. on Trump, Biden, Putin vs Ukraine, WW3 & Migrant Crisis | Robert Kennedy Jr PT 2
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Are you gonna be on that debate stage?
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You can't just say the Democratic party and the Republican Party get to choose. You can't do that because those are private clubs. It's a contribution that is unlawful. You look at President Biden, I worry. I think all of us, you know, it's like watching your five year old play on a jungle gym for the first time. You're like, oh my God, I hope you know, he doesn't fall. Trump in four years. He came in and said he was going to balance the budget. He spent $8 trillion, which is more than every president from George Washington to George W. Bush. 283 years of history.
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Okay, so a lot of people think that it is impossible for you to win this election, that you are a spoiler. What are your best kill Shots for, for Trump and Biden.
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I mean, how do I win? Yeah.
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At a policy level, what do you have to convince the American people of to open their eyes and see that should just. We're done. There it is. Vote for me.
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Well, I have, I mean what, what I need to convince people of is that I can win because if I can win, if they think I can win, that I will win because they, all the polls show that they want to vote for me, but they're not voting for me out of fear because they think if they vote for me, Trump, Biden is going to get elected and the Republic's going to be over or Trump's going to get elected. But if you, you know, in terms of favorability, I beat both of them in every poll in terms of, you know, the people who, the number of Americans who want to vote, who want to vote for me.
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And so they all like you so much. What is it that they don't believe that you can't get enough, they don't
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believe that I can get enough votes
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to win based on what polls? So they're seeing a poll that says,
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well no, I mean if you, if you look at a regular poll that's a three way raise between me, Biden and Trump, I'm going to get around 15 or 16%. You know, the high ones 27%, the low ones 10%. And you know one thing that I only need to get to 34% to win, it's a third three way race. But you know, people think oh he can't get there so therefore voting for him is throwing away my vote. So I have to vote for Trump or Biden to keep the other guy in. And they're voting out of fear, whereas I need them to vote out of hope. Now here's kind of the good news is that in a head to head race and this is every poll that's been done on this issue. But the biggest poll is this ogdipole which is the, the most accurate poll that's been done this entire race because it's 26000 people. It's 10 times the, that the typical poll. Usual polls by Gwinnipiac, Gallup, Harvard Harris, New York Times, Sienna are usually about a thousand to 2200 people. Zogby did a poll, 50 states, 26,000. So more than 10 times the typical poll and it has a margin of error of almost zero. And, and what they, they asked a question that is rarely asked in a head to head race, me against Biden who Wins. Well, I win in a landslide. I win 39 states, he wins 11. Wow. And I had to head raise me against Trump, who wins? I win, but much narrower. Only by about three or four electoral votes, but I still win. Biden can't win. No matter whether I'm in the race or not, if I stay in the race, Biden loses. If I get out of the race, he loses. Worse, he loses two extra states, Maine and Virginia. So, you know, Byler, Biden is the spoiler because the definition of the spoiler is somebody who cannot win and, and is disrupting the expectations of somebody who can. Well, I can win, he can't. So I'm not a spoiler. He's the spoiler.
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Well, so it's interesting, from the time that you came on my radar until now, my sense of the playing field has changed pretty dramatically. So talk to me about there's, there's two wild cards on the table as far as I'm concerned. What happens with Trump's conviction? Do swing voters say, no, I just can't, I can't do it, or does that actually help him? And then Biden is, from a cognitive decline standpoint, is just getting memed so hard. There's no universe in which that isn't having an impact. And of course, everybody's starting to prognosticate that they're going to pull a switcheroo and swap him out with somebody. If you can comment on those two things, I'd love to hear it.
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I, you know, my feeling, and I had this feeling prior to Trump's conviction that if he gets convicted, it's going to help him. And, you know, he was behind Desantis very early on. And as soon as they filed the lawsuits against him, he pulled, he was 15 points behind DeSantis. As soon as they filed the lawsuits, he pulled ahead. The Democrats are stupid. The DNC is a very stupid group of people and they, they make very, very big strategic blunders. And they, you know, one of their strategic blunders was to keep, was to bet all of their chips on President Biden and not just have a primary where they chose the best candidate to beat Donald Trump. You know, instead they, they, it chose a candidate who has all of these very, very clear cognitive deficits. And, you know, Americans, you look at President Biden, I worry, you know, every time I, I see him on tv, I think all of us, you know, it's like watching your 5 year old playing a jungle gym for the first time. You're, you're like, oh, My God, I hope, you know, he doesn't fall or something. But the, the bad part of it is, if you look at this, this man, and you know, we're right closer now to nuclear exchange than at any time since 1962. And, you know, the Russians today fired, I think, two or three missiles off the shore of Cuba. And they're talking about nuclear war. And The Russians have 2500 more weapons than we do. They have better defensive weapons than we do. The latest Pentagon report show that if in a nuclear exchange, that we would lose 90 million Americans within the first 24 hours and 90 million over six months after nuclear exchange. You know, so it's just. And you don't have anybody in the White House who seems to be thinking this through. It's like a bunch of. It's Tony Blinken, who was on stage in Kiev the other night playing a guitar at a concert while 500,000 kids are dying, you know, down the street. And he's in a rock concert. In the end, he stands up like the hero and says, we will never abandon Ukraine. There are no adults in the room. And you say President Biden is the guy who has the football. He has to make the call. They wake him up at 3 o' clock in the morning. You have six minutes to make the call, six minutes to decide whether to retaliate, to send the missiles up. And during that six minutes, he's being pushed by six Secret Service men through a hallway at, at as fast as he can go, you know, through one of the tunnels below the White House, which I've been in. And they're pushing him to the bunker. So, you know, is this is. He has to make a call that's going to affect all of our children, all of humanity. And, you know, don't you want somebody who's on the ball and who's thinking this through and who's, you know, just not cognitively impaired to do that?
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Do you think he's such a liability to the DNC that they'll replace him?
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I don't know. I. I don't make those kind of predictions because I have no idea what they're. What they're doing now is. Seems irrational and crazy to me. Every step they've made, it seems crazy to me.
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Well, I know you hate making these kind of predictions. I'll make one attempt to get you on my team here. So we started with a quote. Your very famous uncle, who was trying to explain the importance of being able to think from your opponent's standpoint.
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Yeah.
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And so look, when you predict the future, you're going to be wrong. When you live by the crystal ball, you end up eating glass. Like, I totally understand that. You end up being, you end up eating glass. Yeah, okay, so, yeah, so that I understand. But what. And, and I'll go first so that if we end up looking ridiculous. Fair enough. I think Biden has from, and I'm obviously of a certain generation, I get my information in a certain way. So I just see the memes, the meme energy has shifted and seeing the mainstream media shift, I one of two passes before us. Either they are so cynical that they want him to get reelected and they want him to get reelected so that he's just a face and that they're, whoever they are, are controlling everything, or they're like, ooh, we are, we're now losing the meme battle. Even the people that were with us before are now mocking us. We're going to have to swap out. And that, that has been going around enough that as long as they swap them out with somebody that is an already known entity, I think then they, they would have a shot. They, they'd have a better shot for sure from where I'm sitting, because I can't like the, the one thing, I'll just say I cannot vote for somebod. That level of cognitive decline.
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Were you going to vote for him if he, if he didn't have that level of cognitive decline?
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I would then investigate his policies because he has cognitive decline. I ruled him out.
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Okay.
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So I would have been open to it.
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Yes.
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So I was. I, my big hot button thing, there's two my, the thing that comes the closest to my single issue voter is the debt and how we treat that. But both Trump and Biden are reckless with printing money.
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Reckless. They both, Trump, in four years, he came in and said he was going to balance the budget and then in four years he ran up $8 trillion. He spent $8 trillion, which is more than every president from George Washington to George W. Bush. 283 years of history. President Biden is not going to beat him if he stays on track. He's running up a trillion dollars every 90 days, adding a trillion dollars and neither of them are going to, are going to deal with it. You know, it's really, it's so selfish and it's so short sighted and so insane. And yet, you know, President Biden just, you know, he's printing money to, and you know, trying to, to use it to get, you know, to buy the election. Essentially, you Know, giving these new programs that are wonderful to, you know, forgive all student debt. You know, I think student debt's crisis. I have a plan for dealing with it, but just forgiving it all is just a way of adding the debt that is going to land on those kids. And, you know, in our country, it's not, it's not patriotism, it's something else.
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I'm also terrified by his border policy. How would you approach that?
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I would shut the border. I would, I would close it down immediately. And, you know, I've been down there and met with all the law enforcement people, the border patrol, local law enforcement, and I know exactly what I'm going to do.
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Um, how much can you tell us?
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Well, I, I. There, there's obvious things you can do. There's infrastructure, things, there's personnel, there's policy. Infrastructure is you need to complete the 20. There's 27 gaps in the wall. You don't need a wall all, all the way From Brownsville, Texas, 2200 miles to San Diego. You do need a wall in the urban areas where immigrants can disappear immediately. So you need to. There's 27 holes in that wall. And we. And then there's also a lot of other infrastructure that the Biden administration took down. The long distance cameras, the night lights, the sensors.
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Why do you think he took those down?
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I think, I think, and this is the most innocuous interpretation of why he took it down, because there's a lot of sinister and nefarious interpretations, but I think it was political pettiness. I think he just, you know, he campaigns against Trump's wall, and so he wanted a complete 180. That's what think. But I don't know. And even that this, the tragedy that's happening at that border every day is so monumental and momentous. You know, They've led probably 9 million people across and they're, you know, it's not humanitarian for them. It's humanitarian crisis and it's a humanitarian crisis for everybody, but particularly for working poor in our country who are getting destroyed by it. You know, the social safety net is getting crushed in New York City on Randall's island. The playing field, the kids, kids weren't allowed to play during COVID and there was a lot of scholarship trajectory kids in high school who lost their lives and, and, you know, their expectations about life and about being able to play college sports. And now they can't play sports because there's encampments for these migrants on the playing fields. That's what they're using them for. So it's just, you know, it's mind blowing. And every, every fact you add to it. I watched 300 people come across between 2am and 4am in Yuba. And the Border Patrol, nine Border Patrol men have committed suicide in the last year because they're so demoralized, because they're not allowed to do their jobs. They're. Instead of barring people from entry, they're processing them. They fingerprint them. If they don't have a criminal record, they bring them to the Yuma airport, they put them on any, on a plane to any destination that they want. And if they don't have the money because the cartels have stolen their money, then the Border patrol buys them a ticket and gets reimbursed from fema. And we're paying for this. We're paying tens of thousands of dollars for every migrant that comes across. We're paying people to invade our country. And, and then they go to New York or whatever city and they, you know, and they're taken advantage of by predatory employer. They have a, they have asylum date seven years in the future. Maybe they'll show up, maybe they won't, but it's seven years. So. And they, and you have predatory employers who are, you know, paying them six or ten bucks an hour. And they're competing, that employer is competing against human union shops for jobs. So that means the union workers who could actually be part of the middle class are not getting the work. And it's just, it's infuriating what they've done. It's infuriating. And, you know, I could give you a lot more details, but it just, it makes me steam when I think about it. What they need to do is fix that infrastructure, including the fences that were taken down and the access roads. You need to begin enforcing the Migrant Protection act, which is the act that requires immigrants from other countries who come to Mexico try to come through in Mexico with an asylum claim, that they remain in Mexico till their asylum claim is adjudicated. And that was the law that, you know, the Biden administration changed. And then the catch and release policies should be changed to catch and return. And then you need personnel changes. Finally, you need, we need 300 asylum court judges on the border. Adjudicated is right there immediately. And we need about 3,000 more Border Patrol because there's been a big attrition because they're so demoralized. So, you know, I'll do that on all that stuff beginning on day one. I'm going to do something else which I, I, I don't think any Republican or Democrat can do. I'm going to order the State Department and the, and the post office to begin issuing passport, passport cards to any American who can't afford one for free. Passport card is federally, you know, issued government photo id. It doesn't have your medical records, it's got nothing else, just a photo ID like a driver's license. This is absolutely critical. And the reason is there are tens of millions of Americans who don't have driver's license. So they have no government, it should photo id. And they're mainly Democrats, they're elderly people who've lost their license, you know, who no longer drive. There are students who don't yet have a license and tend to vote vent Democratic and they're, and they're minorities in cities who don't need a license if you don't have a driver's license. And so the Democrats, you know, and this is why the Democrats don't want a requirement of photo ID at the voting booth. Because if you require that, there's a lot of Democrats who don't have that ID and they're not going to get it. They're not going to go pay 60 bucks and wait in DMV at the nightmare, you know, of DMV for the whole day when just to vote you're not going to do it. And, and if you don't have a government issued photo id, you are a second class citizen. You can't open a bank account, you can't visit your kids at school, you can't check into a hotel, you can't take an airplane and a lot of other stuff. So I'm going to make sure everybody has a photo id. And what will this do? Number one, our team has met with the most important civil rights leaders, people like Andrew Young and Reverend Al Sharpton. And they've said if I do this that they will withdraw their objection to the requirement to show it at the voting post. So that diffuses the tension in one of the most, you know, volatile debates between Republicans, Democrats. Number two, people now are going to have a better life because they have an id. And number three, there's a, there's laws in this country that make a criminal offense for an employer to hire an undocumented alien. There's a loophole though. The employer only has to check a box that says I saw their Social Security card. Social Security cards don't have a photo on them. They're easily fabricated. And on some work sites in New York. They're passed hand to hand and the employer says, I saw it. Checks the box and then he pays them in cash, right? Oh, he know. He's, he's escaped liability. What I'm going to say is you cannot hire somebody in this country. It's a criminal offense and you're going to go to jail if you hire somebody without seeing their government issued photo ID. And that will shut down most of the border, 90% of it overnight, by killing the incentive because nobody's coming here if they know. You cannot get a job in the United States if you don't have a government issued photo id. And there's no way to get that. Looking for the perfect rental? Discover top rated stays loved by guests. Rated highest by real guests. Through authentic reviews. These traveler loved stays are recognized by the details that matter most and validated by real experiences. Choose confidently from rentals you can trust. VRBO book now a vacation rental loved by guests. If you work in university maintenance, Grainger
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Yeah, so if I had to make a bet as to what's going on, it could be a little bit of political pettiness on the Biden administration's part, but I have a feeling this is more about pathological compassion. So what do you say to the people that are going to be horrified that, I mean, these people are seeking a better life and that's what America is about, and that's what's written on the Statue of Liberty. And why are you effectively caging them up in south, technically north and South America. But why do that?
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First of all, I, I mean, first of all, no nation can survive if it doesn't close borders. If we, we, we need an orderly immigration policy that is compassionate, that, you know, that leads with compassion. And we do that in this country. People who have asylum claims automatically get in if they can show that they have an authentic asylum claim. So we lead with compassion. You need to be able to control the border. Right now the border is being controlled by the Sinaloa drug cartel. And that cartel is advertised. The night, the first night I went there, I watched 300 people come across the first 110, they were coming up in buses. There were 55 people in a bus, these brand new buses that were owned by the Sinaloa cartel. They'd pull up, 55 people, get off each bus, and they're all night long, they're coming in. The first two buses were exclusively young men from West Africa of military age. And I didn't actually get to talk to them because they were being processed when I got there, but I saw them all. And then the second two buses were mainly people from Asia. They were from Kazakhstan, Tajikistan. I talked to every one of them. Azerbaijan, Nepal, Tibet, Bangladesh, mainly from China. The whole night. There were only two immigrants who came all over with asylum claims. And one was from Colombia. One is proof they're only Latin Americans. The other ones were coming across because they were answering advertisements on tick tock and YouTube that the cartels are doing all over the world saying, we can get you into America for $10,000.
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And what's the agenda? Why do they want to do that?
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Because they're making $10,000 a body.
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That's it. Just, we'll get you.
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They're making billions of dollars. Billions. And, and so they come and, and they tell them exactly how to do it. Everybody who came across knew exactly what was going to happen to them. There was no fear, there was no surprise. They knew exactly every step of the way. And, and by the way, they had been, you know, I talked to them and a large part of them have been robbed. Peruvian family, their entire life savings have been stolen from the cartels. I spent a day at a rape center there that specializes in children who've been raped immediately before they come across the border. There's, you know, 80,000 kids have disappeared.
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There's a rape, 80,000 kids, something like that.
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Now maybe 40,000, because I'm not remembering this number, but it's between 40 and 80,000 people that have kids who have disappeared. People can Google this and check on me, you know, I'm not going to swear on that number. Huge number, right? There's a rape tree they call the rape tree on the other side of the border that you can see from where, from my vantage, where I was. And it's where the cartels extract the, the final payment. So women, children get raped there. And they. Border patrol sees it all the time. They can't do anything about it because it's on the Mexican side. And then I spent a day at a rape center that, that just treats children who have been raped. And it was. And it's in Yuma. The people of Yuma are the most incredible Americans that I, you know, they are taking this onslaught and they're, they're handling it with total compassion. The, the head of the hospital told me that his wife was coming in for a. Or, you know, to. To end the pregnant. To, you know, to have the baby. Right. To induce pregnancy. And that the. There, there, I think there are 13 or 23 beds. I forget it was in the maternity ward, and every one of them was occupied by migrants and that they did not have room anywhere in it in that hospital for the women, the local women who had induced, you know, for induced pregnant. Induced births, et cetera. So they have to turn their own people away to treat these migrants. And they're doing it. And he said last year, this a small regional hospital. He said last year they got, they spent, I think it was $9 million. It may have been 20. I'm bad on that, on the numbers right now, but I'm on the unreimbursed expenses to pay for the, the migrants. What's crushing this town? The border towns are just going to crush. And now every town in our country is a border town. This is happening all over our country. And it's terrible. It's not humanitarian. The people who. Coming across are being terribly mistreated. And then, you know, they can't legally work here. So for seven years, what are they going to do? It's not a good solution. What we need is high, you know, high walls at the border and then wide gates so that people who come through the legal process can come in that, that they have a faster path to citizenship. That, you know, there's, there's 10 million jobs in small businesses that we're. They're looking for people coming from abroad, and we need those workers here if we're going to keep Social Security solvent for a couple more years, if we're going to have taxes paid, et cetera. We need to enrich, you know, our population with people who come in legally. But, you know, coming across the border, you know, and letting the drug cartels run US Border policy is not a good solution. Nobody thinks that's a good idea. All right?
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You are running on the idea of uniting the country against two people who do not seem to share that aim, certainly not in their rhetoric. You've got the thing that freaks me out the most. I never said what my second thing was. That's my big issue, which is authoritarian rule. And seeing all the lawfare against Trump. Love him or hate him, I just think this is absolutely not what I think of when I think of American values. So if you were elected, would you pardon Trump for the convictions? Would you pardon Hunter Biden if he gets convicted?
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I, I would. I, first of all, I wouldn't, you know, I, I wouldn't make that decision. Now, I agree with you that I think that the Democratic, and I don't, you know, in terms of honor Biden, I don't, I haven't seen any evidence that that was politically motivated prosecution. I think it was a Democratic prosecutor. So I don't know, you know, why, what the justification for, for pardoning him is if, if there was a determination that, you know, Trump's prosecution was political. I personally, I think Trump's prosecution will probably get overturned in the higher courts because of a couple. I just saw the jury instructions from the judge, and they seemed to me that, that they were not, that it wasn't, they weren't constitutional. But I don't know. I don't know. I didn't watch the case carefully. I just read a couple of those jury instructions, and they didn't seem right. But I wouldn't say, you know, at this point whether I was going to pardon anybody right now, except for people I know I'm going to pardon, which is Julian Assange and EDW Snowden and, you know, probably Ross Albrecht, people who are clearly politically prosecuted and people who are whistleblowers and should be, you know, with, with Snowden and, and Assange, we should be building monuments to them, not putting them in prison.
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Why is that? What, why is that?
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Well, Snowden revealed that, told us for the first time the reason he, they don't like him is he told us that NSA was listening to every one of our phone calls and storing all the information and that every text message that we write, every email that you write is being, is being taken by NSA and stored in a data data center for, for, you know, retrieval sometime in the future. Oh, it's completely unconstitutional. It's against all of our values. It's against statutes that say that, you know, the Intelligence Agency cannot spy on the American people. They were violating it. Edward Snowden told that to the world, to us, to American people. His, you know, fellow countrymen and Congress then convened and passed laws to regulate it. So clearly what he did was a service to our country. It's something we would want people in the military to do to tell us that, you know, that, that these, in these bureaucracies have turned against us and are now spying on us. And then Assange just Did what every newspaper editor in the. He's a. He's an editor of a paper. And, and, you know, the. He got. He got information, inside information, including, you know, mercenary groups that were. That. That had murdered civilians in, In Iraq. And, and, and he revealed we weren't being told about, you know, US Paid contractors murdering people and that the Pentagon was keeping it quiet. And he, he got a hold of that information and published it. He didn't break the law. He did what every newspaper editor in the country is supposed to be doing. And it's weird to me that all the editors in the country for the Washington Post, the New York Times and everybody else is not, you know, sitting in front of the White House demanding that he be released because they're in jeopardy. You know, so, you know, those people that they stand up for freedom of speech, they stood up for our Constitution. They made. They knew they were going to make sacrifices. They've suffered terribly from that. They made the same sacrifice to give us our rights that the, you know, the patriots made in the, in the American Revolution. They put their houses at, you know, their, Their livelihoods, their freedom at risk, their salaries, their wealth. They put it all at risk and their lives in order to. To give us these freedoms. And Assange and Snowden did the same thing. So we should be honoring them. We should not be punishing them.
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What do you think has happened to the sense of what American values are that lead people to now so quickly abandon the Constitution? Whether it's during COVID whether it's crushing down the First Amendments, which has been rampant, you obviously have been censored to death. People that just have you on their podcast will get censored. It's crazy, but that seems to be an out. It seems to be coming forth from something in the people far more than the government. I think the government echoes the people.
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Yeah. I think a couple of things happen. One is. One is something very basic. And I actually spoke about this last night. I was at the Nixon Library, and the Nixon Library is launching a big program on resuming civics classes in our country, which to me, you know, when I. You're not. You're much younger than I was. But when kids were growing up in the 50s and 60s and even 70s in this country, we, every child in our country had to take at least three civics classes. Oh. And that taught us our rights, taught us to stand up for them, and, and, and taught us that, you know, that people died to give us those rights, and we had to be willing to die to Preserve them. And we all learned that. And they stopped teaching civics in the late 70s, early 80s. I think you have a generation, you know, we were taught that, you know, we had, we, it's our job to fight that somebody may take. Try to take these rights away from us and that we had to fight them, we had to battle them. We had to fight them to the gates of hell. And then we had to fight them till hell freezes over. And then we had to fight them on the ice, you know, and never stop fighting to keep them. And that's how I was raised, right. And so. But we have a generate couple generations of kids that didn't get that. Those lessons when they were young. And then we have the press, which has been utterly compromised. And it's been compromised for a couple of reasons. One is the, the revival of Operation Mockingbird, which is now very, very well documented. You know, there's a couple of CIA historians, Dick Russell and David Talbot, but a couple of others who've done expose recently on, you know, how much of the press is now controlled by the CIA and the NSA and the intelligence establishment and, you know, common journals like Daily Beast, Rolling Stone, which used to be a counterculture journal and is now, you know, the guy, the editor in chief there, Noah Schlackman, is right out of the intelligence community. And if you look, you know, they're all, you know, pro Ukraine, pro vaccine, pro all the things that the intelligence unity, pro US expansion abroad. All of the, you know, you can kind of look and see how, where they stand on the issue. Salon, Slate, Daily Coast, National Geographic, the Scientific American, you know, all of these are now, you know, become kind of apparent bullhorns for the intelligence agencies. You have that and then something all. And then Washington Post and New York Times, of course, but there's something more going on which is just this, you know, this merger, this corrupt merger of state and corporate power, which has, which has also subsumed the. Oh, you know, what we saw during COVID where journalism really became degraded, that, you know, the, the journalism has always played a critical role in democracy. It's the Fourth Estate. It's. There's three branches of government, but the fourth is supposed to be the guardian of democracy, is the free press and the, the press. And Louis Brandeis words judge. You know, Justice Louis Brandeis is supposed to maintain a fierce skepticism toward government pronouncements and government. That is the role of the president of democracy. And during COVID we saw the opposite. Instead of speaking truth to power, they became stenographers for government propaganda. They became active propagandists, marginalizing, vilifying, gaslighting dissenters, you know, destroying reputations of anybody who, you know. Bernie. Heretics could not be interviewed. They had to be burned at the stake and made examples of. And you saw these incredibly important scientists being, you know, being fired, losing their jobs, being ridiculed by the press. And then of course, any doctor who did not, who departed from the government orthodoxies, their reputation was destroyed, their licenses were yanked. That to this day the mainstream media will not report about vaccine injuries. So you have all of these, you know, children dying on playing fields and nobody even asked the question, you know, why are they, why are children suddenly dying of strokes, 10 year olds, you know, and, and myocarditis and all of these other disease that we never saw before in children and, and then professional athletes dying all over the world and you never see the question answered. And then, you know, all the, the rise of all these autoimmune diseases and turbo cancers and all these other things that the press should be talking about. But they, the press now sees its job as being, as manipulating the American public. They, their job is not to tell you the truth, but to tell you what's good for you, what they think is good for you. Right? And it's good for you to believe all of the propaganda about COVID and mass work, that there are scientific basis for them, that social distancing absolutely works, that the vaccines will prevent transmission. If you take the vaccine, you'll never get sick is what they all were saying. And, and you know, how many times did you hear Anderson Cooper and Jake Tapper and all these other ones saying we need to shame the people who don't do this. We need to, you know, they're bad people, they're evil people. And you know, the Chirons at the bottom that were just saying death counts every day, you know, to keep everybody in a state of fear and compliance. And instead of somebody, imagine if somebody like had gotten up and said, wait a minute now, let's start asking people questions. And they never did. They still won't today. They're still, you know, glorifying. You know, we had the worst COVID death rate in the world and we in our country, we had 16% of the COVID deaths. We only have 4.2% of the world's population. Oh, why are people getting awards for this? We literally, whatever we did was the worst of anybody. And so why are we giving awards to the people who were masterminding this? Now they're getting called in front of Congress, but the press still won't cover it. The Republican press is covering it, conservative press, but the liberal Democratic media will not cover when these people are making stunning emissions. Yeah, we had no science for social distancing. We had none for mass. You know, Fauci getting up there and saying, I never, you know, I never gave any thought to whether children would be armed from. By missing school and by wearing masks all the time. Never ask the question, you know, can, can a kid learn to speak when he can't see anybody else speak? What's it going to do to his social interactions? Nobody asks these questions. And now the Brown University study showed that young kids during COVID there was a 22 drop in IQ points. And, and CDC has now had to rewrite its childhood milestones so that, you know, for the last 40 years, since CDC developed them, a child should be able to walk at 12 months. Now it's 18 months. A child should have, I think 50 words at 18 months. And now it's two years. So all the milestones have been pushed back because they did so much damage to our kids and they're trying to normalize it, you know, and that's their answer to a public health crisis to make people think it, it didn't happen. And you know, diabetes. Now when I was a kid, typical pediatrician would see one case of diabetes in his lifetime. Now he, one out of every three kids who walks through his office or is pre diabetic or diabetic. And you want to know, I mean, diabetes with mitochondrial dysfunction, which is diabetes, I think you know a lot about is is now costing us more than the military budget. And nobody's asking why. You know, autism. In my generation Today, right now, 1 in 10,000 men have it. And in my kids generation is 1 in every 34, every 22 boys. Nobody's saying, why is this happening? We have a public health establishment that this is so much worse than Covid. You look at the cause to our society. I mean, Covid was killing people in their last year of Life. According to CDC, the average person who died from COVID had 3.8 chronic disease. They were, they were at death's door. They were in the last final years their life. It's a chronic disease, is getting people in their first years of life and then they have 75 years of cost and you know, suffering in front of them. And, and you know, nobody, nobody even asked these questions. And there's no journalists who will ask the obvious question. Oh, you tell us it has nothing to do with this exposure with processed foods, with vaccines, whatever. Then what does it, what's causing it? And isn't it your job to know? You have a 42 billion dollar budget at NIH. How many studies have you done on this? Let's see them. There's no, there's no journalist out there that reads science. They're, they're scientifically illiterate.
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Yeah, that's what I, I can't track is if you. Going back to what we were saying earlier, if you're really trying to get to the truth, then they're a pretty obvious set of questions. I don't expect people to know the truth at first. I expect them to hunt it down. And there's certainly a lot of questions.
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I mean look, we were told at Haiti and Nigeria and these very poor countries, Haiti's the poorest country in the hemisphere, were going to be wiped out by Covid because they couldn't afford the vaccine. Haiti ended up having a 1.3% vaccination rate. And the death rate from COVID and Haiti was 14 people per million population. The death rate among black people in America was more than 3,000 per million population. So 200 times what Haiti. And same with Nigeria. Nigeria had a 1.4% vaccination rate. A death rate of 14 people per million population. So what now there may be good reasons for that, right?
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B
Correlation, causation.
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Yeah, you don't know. But, but, and you know, it's a younger population and, and Covid was affecting the old. So there's a lot of reasons that could explain it. But we should know that, right? Somebody should be asking that question and saying why did they do when they didn't have anything? Why'd they do so much better than we did? And nobody's asking that because nobody really wants to know the answers.
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B
Yeah, that, that look, that. There's a whole nother episode we could do just on that. I've got to get you out of here. But I want to ask one final question which is your family has paid an inordinate price for what I'll round to American values. Your uncle obviously was killed. Your father was kill killed when you were what, 12?
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A
I mean so I was 14 when my dad was worse.
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B
Was that price worth it to move this country forward?
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Yeah, I mean I feel like my, you know, look, both my, my father and my, all my uncles joined the military during World War II to go out my. I lost uncle. I lost two of my uncles in World War II, you know, who made a Decision, a calculation to stand up for their country. We have soldiers, you know, our military. Everybody who you see in uniform has made the decision that our country is worth dying for. So, you know, whether you're in uniform or not, we all should believe that. We all should believe. And, you know, when I was in. And during the first year of the pandemic in August, I went to speak at a. At a big rally, huge rally, 1.3 million people in Berlin was people from all over Europe. It was like Woodstock. There are people every color of the rain, rainbow. And it was a joyful crowd. And they were. People were saying, they're taking away our rights and we don't like it. And that was the whole point. Wait. And while I was there, I wasn't wearing a mask. And, you know, in art, the big crowd, there was almost nobody wearing a mask. Maybe nobody. And I got asked by an NBC film crew who were all masked. I. They're the only people wearing masks out there. I said, you're not wearing a mask. Aren't you scared of dying? And I said, there's. There's. There's. There's things that are a lot scarier to me than dying. And they said, like what? I said, like losing my constitutional rights and like living like a slave and having my kids grow up in America where they don't have the Bill of Rights, you know, and, you know, we saw this assault on the Bill of Rights during COVID Like, unprecedented. We saw at first they, you know, the government got involved in censoring political speech, and it started out with the COVID countermeasures, but then it moved to Ukraine and all these other issues. And I, I can say this because I have the lawsuit, Biden vs. Kennedy, which is now, you know, the Court of Appeals, but I've won in the Court of Appeals. And, and then Biden, or M versus Biden, which was a case that we helped, you know, draft that was. That was brought by the Louisiana, Missouri attorney generals. And we got all that. The. The discovery from those cases. We have the Twitter files that show that the White House was conspiring to. Was coercing the social media sites to censor political opponents. This never happened in our country before. Once they figured out that they could get away with censoring speech, and they went after everything else, they. They went out. The second plank of the, of the First Amendment is freedom of worship. They closed every church in our country for a year with no, with no scientific citation. They just said, close them. There's no. There's no notice and comment rulemaking, no hearing, no environmental impact statement. No, not just shut them down. And then they went after. So they went after freedom of assembly, which is also in the First Amendment, Amanda, in all these social distancing regulations which we're on now, we know we're completely scientifically basis. Anthony Fauci said, I don't know, it just came from somewhere. I don't know where it came from. And then they went after private property. The Fifth Amendment, they shut down 3.3 million businesses. No due process, no just compensation. They, they closed down jury trials. The Seventh Amendment guarantees the right of a jury trial in any case or controversy exceeding $25. And they gave immunity to any company that was involved in countermeasures. No matter how egregious your injury, no matter how negligent their conduct, no matter how reckless their contract, you can't sue them. And then they abandoned the Fourth Amendment guarantees against warrantless searches and seizures. With all this track and trace surveillance where you had to give your medical records to leave your home. They literally plowed down the entire Bill of Rights. And one year that we've. We'd held for 290 years in our country and gone in one year. And you know, that was shocking to me that nobody complained about it.
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B
That's what scared me.
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And that all the liberals who I grew up with, who read George Orwell and read Robert Heinlein and read Aldous Huxley and read Kessler and, you know, all of these other people who were warning us about, you know, the dystopian totalitarian future, and, and it all begins with controlling for speech. And then after that, everything disappears and nobody speaks up. Everybody's silent about it to this day. You talk to a liberal about free speech and they'll say, yeah, but you know, it was an emergency.
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B
No, there's no provision for that.
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No, there's no, there's no pandemic exception in the Constitution. And the framers knew all about epidemics. They were plagued by epidemics during the Revolution and, and the 10 years between the end of the Revolution that civil rights and the, and the ratification of the Bill of Rights, there were, there were catastrophic epidemics in every city. And during the Revolution, there were two very serious epidemics that one of them decimated the malaria epidemic that decimated the armies of Virginia. And then later on in the war, or at pretty early in the war, a smallpox epidemic that decimated the army of New England at the very time when we had Benedict Arnold, who was our greatest General had captured Montreal and but he could not hold the city because his men were all down with smallpox. Otherwise, Canada today would be part of the United States. And the framers all knew that. And yet they did not put an epidemic exception in the Constitution. They wrote it for hard times.
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Yeah. If those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it. And if you don't have the reverence for the documents that gave birth to this country, you're not going to think that they're worth dying for. And we're living in a time right now where I think people are sort of peak scared. And when you're scared, you just want safety. And you put all those elements together and people just are fine with it. The thing that freaked me out is that people didn't speak up. That was the scary part. Crazy.
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A
They're still not speaking up.
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Yeah, true. But you are. You're out there. It's exciting to see you on the trail. I really hope you end up on the debate stage with Trump and Biden. I think that that will be important for the country. I will be mortified if they try to keep you out. I think it's ridiculous. Thank you for coming today. Where can people learn more? Follow along with the campaign.
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A
Kennedy24.com There it is.
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All right, everybody, regardless of what you think, get out and vote. It is absolutely critical. Demand that the best arguments be laid out and you're given a chance to hear them and make a decision for yourself. Ultimately, that's what will save the democracy. All right, everybody, until next time, be legendary. Take care.