Who Really Runs the World? Simon Dixon Exposes the Power Structures You’re Not Meant to See | Impact Theory w. Tom Bilyeu

Summary

Impact Theory Podcast: "Who Really Runs the World? Simon Dixon Exposes the Power Structures You’re Not Meant to See"

Host: Tom Bilyeu
Guest: Simon Dixon (Financial and Power Structures Expert)
Date: May 28, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Tom Bilyeu and Simon Dixon dive into the hidden global power structures that manipulate world events, economies, and governments. Dixon, an expert in finance and geopolitical systems, unveils a hierarchy dominated not by nation-states but by transnational complexes—primarily the financial industrial complex, the military industrial complex, and the technological industrial complex. The conversation unpacks how these complexes arose, how they operate, and the mechanisms they use to influence societies and global affairs, with specific focus on current and historical events such as wars, economic crises, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Real Power Structures Above Governments

• Hierarchy of Power: Dixon asserts that a "small group of power structures… sit above countries that are running the show. There’s no political solution in the West. There’s no democracy. It’s all a lie. The government is a distraction." (01:00)
• Three Major Complexes:
  • Financial Industrial Complex – Sits at the top; controls creation and flow of global capital.
  • Military Industrial Complex – Profits from continuous conflict and war contracts.
  • Technological Industrial Complex – Controls media, data, algorithms; subordinate to finance because of need for capital.
• Quote: "I like to call them complexes. The world really understood the military industrial complex... But the financial industrial complex is above it. Governments serve their agendas." – Simon Dixon (01:55–05:58)

2. Organic Evolution or Deliberate Construction?

• Emergence of Power Structures: These complexes evolve organically over time, with labels and methods shifting but core intent unchanged: the concentration of wealth and power.
• Central Banking as Foundational: Central banks’ control over currency creation (via loans) is the cornerstone of today’s global order.
• "It’s always a few incredibly wealthy people that rule the masses and co-opt the system and just put a different label on top of it... Now, it’s increasingly global and less dependent on any one country or jurisdiction." – Simon Dixon (07:06–08:24)

3. How Money and Power Are Created

• Mechanics of Money Creation: Commercial banks create money as credit; central banks guarantee the monetary system.
• Who Grants Power?: Laws and licenses enabling banks to create money are government-sanctioned but central-bank regulated, rendering government subservient to financial interests.
• "Money is created by a private commercial bank... a loan has to exist for a bank to create a credit, which is the money supply." – Simon Dixon (08:53–09:35)

4. Governments & the Illusion of Public Influence

• Role of the People and Politicians: The public has little real say. Politicians are selected, shaped, and promoted via lobby influence—“WWE actors” performing narratives for the masses.
• Lobby System: Lobbies, representing myriad corporate interests, handpick politicians from early career stages. Advancement is reward-based on service to lobby goals.
• Quote: "I see politicians as WWE actors. Their job is to create an acceptable narrative to justify why all of the money is serving a smaller group of private corporate interests." – Simon Dixon (10:43–11:03)

5. The Cycle: From Fiat Money to Real Assets to Collapse

• Asset Grabbing: The ultimate aim is to exchange fiat currency (created by the system, designed to lose value) for real assets—land, resources, gold, and now Bitcoin.
• Cycle of Collapse and Reset: The fiat system periodically reaches crisis, prompting a “reset” (like ending an old Monopoly game), transitioning to new forms of control or currency.
• Quote: "They are just using a fiat currency system in order to acquire assets... Eventually, the slow destruction of purchasing power... hits the point where it gets to an end of a cycle." – Simon Dixon (11:35–12:48)

6. Coordination and Internal Competition Among Elites

• Are the Elites Unified?: Dixon clarifies it’s less about a single cabal and more a ruthless, competitive mafia-like structure. Hierarchies enforce compliance; internal rivals are “dealt with” when necessary (e.g., JFK assassination).
• “There is a hierarchy and preservation of the structure overwrites anyone that tries to deviate and play a power play.” – Simon Dixon (16:59–17:23)

7. The Debt-Based Ponzi and Central Bank Guarantees

• How the Ponzi Works: All fiat money is borrowed into existence and must be repaid with interest—money that doesn't exist, requiring further growth or rolling over of debt.
• Risk and Moral Hazard: Banks take risks knowing central banks (and thus governments) will bail them out, further incentivizing risky financial behavior.
• “The government is on the hook in order to bail out the system, which creates a moral hazard...” (19:26–20:00)

8. The Role of Lobbies and the Stock Market

• Political Funding and Influence: Lobbies identify and groom candidates early. Whoever aligns with their goals rises; the process is iterative and reward-based.
• Mechanism of Wealth Flow: Lobby-driven government debt creates capital inflows into the stock market, concentrating ownership further among elites and lobbies.
• Quote: "Your career only progresses if you deliver enough value for the lobbies... the career of a politician is to make up a narrative to pretend that he's doing stuff for the people while serving the lobby." – Simon Dixon (21:59–22:25)

9. Case Studies — Tech and Political Figures as Nodes

• The ‘Grooming’ Pipeline: Peter Thiel and Palantir as examples of technical industrial complex being funded by military ("DARPA capital"), then transferred to private hands, then made public for further financialization.
• Compromise Networks: Advancement in finance often involves intentional moral compromise, to ensure leverage over influential actors.
• Quote: "They want you in the compromise network. They need you where they've got something on you. And if you choose not to partake, you're not going to progress." – Simon Dixon (28:41–28:55)

10. Israel, Palestine, and the Business of Perpetual War

• Israel’s Function: Created as a “node” for war in the Middle East, aligned with the military industrial complex. The goal is perpetual conflict, resource access, and destabilization to benefit broader imperial financial interests.
  • The Balfour Declaration as a transactional arrangement for continued war financing.
  • "Israel was a construct of the British Empire. It was created between the British government for Walt Rothschild, who was a prolific war financier... the business model was population growth." – Simon Dixon (37:41–39:39)
• Weaponizing Technology and Faith: Testing surveillance/AI tech (e.g., Palantir’s facial recognition) in war zones before bringing it to Western societies.
  • “Palantir technology... it is genocide as a service... All this technology comes home, maybe in a less extreme version, but they do the really extreme stuff over there.” (44:37–45:54)
• Deep Competition Even in Alliances: Egypt, Gulf States, and China form alternate power blocks; sometimes promises like ethnic cleansing are declined as alliances shift.
• Cylicality: Empires and power structures transition with staged, symbolic moments—Suez Canal for the British Empire’s end; financial crises for American decline (59:54–62:09).

11. BlackRock and the Modern Financial Empire

• Modern "East India Company": BlackRock’s rise in the 1980s, pioneering mortgage-backed securities and ETFs, and playing a central role in managing financial crises by allocating rescue funds.
• Allocation of Rescue Funds: "BlackRock was the contractor that was consulted in both the global financial crisis and during the COVID Treasury." – Simon Dixon (64:20–64:27)
• Concentration of Ownership: The result is extreme asset concentration—92% of the US stock market is controlled by the top 10% (mostly financial industrial complex).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Politicians: "I see politicians as WWE actors. Their job is to create an acceptable narrative." (10:43–11:03)
• On Compliance and Compromise: "If you don't do it [moral compromise] naturally, it will be enforced upon you... Otherwise you won't make it." (46:27–46:34)
• On War as Business: "There always has to be what war never ends. There has to be constant revenue. You're not going to get a situation where the revenue goes down." (58:48–59:07)
• On Social Control and the Masses: "The Kompromat only works on people because... I'm going to show this to the masses and the masses are going to turn on you and they will tear you apart. And so that feels very powerful... as somebody who views himself as a part of the people and not a part of the power structure." – Tom Bilyeu (46:34–48:25)
• On the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: “The goal of Palestine was to set up a series of events that would lead to the complete destruction of Palestine. There was a bribe... to Egypt… to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians and put them in the Sinai desert.” (35:48–36:27)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Definition of "complexes" and global control | 01:00 – 05:58 | | Central banking’s role in the power pyramid | 07:06 – 08:24 | | Money creation and system architecture | 08:53 – 11:35 | | Asset grabbing and cyclical resets | 11:35 – 12:48 | | Political selection by lobbies | 21:59 – 24:03 | | The pipeline and cultural grooming (Thiel, Palantir) | 24:03 – 28:55 | | Moral compromise in finance | 28:55 – 32:24 | | Analyzing Israel, Palestine, and perpetual conflict | 37:41 – 59:00 | | End of British empire/Suez Canal as symbolic shift | 59:54 – 62:09 | | Rise of BlackRock and new financial empire | 63:09 – 66:59 |

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Tone & Language

This episode mixes sweeping historical analysis, technical explanations of finance, and sharp critique. Dixon’s tone is analytical, sometimes conspiratorial, yet heavily grounded in institutional knowledge of finance and geopolitics. Tom Bilyeu pushes for clarity and challenges when the analysis appears too monolithic or deterministic, emphasizing practical impacts on individuals and the possibility for public awareness and resistance.

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Summary

This episode is essential for anyone seeking to understand global power beyond the surface-level politics reported in the media. Dixon’s theory illustrates a world controlled by transnational financial, military, and technological “complexes” that shape policy, war, and culture through hierarchy, cycles of debt, and selective political grooming. The episode is rich with explanations of how the pieces fit together—from central banks’ creation of money to the rise of BlackRock as today’s most influential financial institution—and exposes the repeated historical playbook of using war and crisis to maintain the upward transfer of wealth.

For listeners wanting a roadmap to decoding the headlines and seeing the patterns behind global events, this conversation provides a dense, unflinching account.

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[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

I think there's a small group of power structures that sit above countries that are running the show. There's no political solution in the West. There's no democracy. It's all a lie. The government is a distraction. The left versus the right is a complete distraction. You need a theatrical moment to define the end of Empire and the transition to the New World Order. There is a way of breaking the system if we wanted, but they don't want you to know that.

[Interviewer]

What's the way? You have a very atypical way of viewing the power structures that actually make the world go round. And so I actually want to start there. Is it fair to say that there is a small group of people that sit above countries that are actually running the show?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

I think there's a small group of power structures that sit above countries that are running the show.

[Interviewer]

What is a power structure?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

I like to call them complexes. I think the world really understood them military industrial complex as a group of companies and countries that have corporate interests that profit from war and that sell weapons. And so whether that be America, uk, France, Germany, Israel that had a group of companies from Lockheed Martin, General, Dynamic, Raytheon, Boeing, BAE Systems. It is a group of companies that have a well oiled machine that requires a continual source of revenue that is derived from more profitable is war and less profitable is defense contracts and their revenue has to continue and structurally they have fiduciary duties to shareholders and they have to report quarterly earnings. And you can see in those Quarterly earnings, where most of their revenue comes from. And it gives you clues as to where the next war zone will be. And so I use just reading those balance sheets and where the contracts are to determine where the next war zones will be, because they prepare. And so you can see narrative ratchets up in politics. But before that, contracts and revenue move. And so the military industrial complex is an important part of it, but there is a greater power than the military industrial complex, and that is the financial industrial complex. And so the financial industrial complex does not have ultimate power to one institution or one organization, just like the military industrial complex. It is a group of companies that perform very specific functions. And through controlling the creation of fiat currencies and the movement of capital globally, they're able to influence and subordinate countries in order to get access to capital. And there's all sorts of different layers within there. The final layer is the reason that I put finance above military is because all of those military companies are public companies. And so they need access to capital. They can either get it from the government through tax, you know, through bonds, or they can get it from capital markets. And so bondholders, shareholders, and the government is just another form of bondholder, really, because it's just a piggy bank for bondholders. They're able to influence those capital flows. And therefore governments need access to such capital. And they have all sorts of subordination structures, whether it be lobbying, whether it be deep state black op operations for blackmail, or whether it be just straight up access to capital markets. But one of the other complexes that is incredibly important is the technological industrial complex. And so that is the 50% of the S&P is the magnificent seven companies now almost. And that includes access from data, data centers, algorithm, the ability to engineer via neomedia and perform operations by controlling algorithms. Again, the technical industrial complex is a series of companies. They normally and they are subordinate to finance because they need access to capital. So if you're trying to simplify it down, I call it a financial industrial complex. And governments serve their agendas, and governments are subordinate to their control grids and structures.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so so far we have three named power structures. We have the financial industrial complex, which sits on top of everything. We have the military industrial complex, which seems to be something that has found a very profitable way to benefit from what I'll call human tendencies. And then we have the technological industrial complex, which feels, if I'm interpreting it right, relatively new. So are these complexes something that arise organically, that will always exist, no matter what structure, no matter how Countries are aligned. Or was this something where somebody sat down and said, here are the three ways in which we can manipulate the public and we just have to get this set up. And it was very intentional. And it was like, okay, you're going to be the financial industrial complex, you're going be the military. Like, how did that come. Is this a top down or a bottom up phenomenon?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah, I mean it evolves with time and adjusts with time. But throughout human history we've had different labels for very similar systems. Whether it's a country having a monarchy or whether it's a democracy, or whether it's, you know, whatever government structure, it's always a few incredibly wealthy people that rule the masses and co op the system and just put a different label on top of it. But in terms of if we were to simplify this down to the modern version of it today, and we could go back thousands of years if we wanted, but if we were to simplify it down, I'd say it's central banking at the base layer. And the ability to create currency in a Ponzi like structure has a series of incentives that lead us to a game of monopoly that it ultimately concentrates power in. Normally historically one region, but now it's increasingly more transnational and global and is less dependent upon any one country or jurisdiction.

[Interviewer]

Okay, let's stop there because I think for anybody hearing that for the first time, there are enough phrases in there that they won't necessarily understand. So the reason that the central bank sits at the bottom of this pyramid is because we are in an economic structure where the money is fictional. And so we just have to get everybody to grant. This bank has the power to create money. Is that how they exist at the bottom of this structure?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

So if we were to put this into a triangle, the central bank is the guarantor of the system, but the what's the system? The monetary system. Okay, and so let's start at the, at the base layer, how money is created. In very brief terms, money is created by a private commercial bank. And so a loan has to exist in order for a bank to, to create a credit, which is the money supply. And so if you want to borrow $1,000, then you go to a bank and that bank has a authority and license to create $1,000 to deposit into your current account.

[Interviewer]

And who gave them that license? The government or the central bank itself?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Well, regulated by the central bank, but the license, the law, the legislation comes from Congress and from the government.

[Interviewer]

Okay, I don't want to Derail this story too hard. But when you were laying out the initial three structures of power, government wasn't listed as a fourth. It was talked about as being subordinate to finance, but so was the military industrial complex. And one of the things we will have to answer for in all of this is the people. And as I have tried to map your worldview, the people do start to become like these mindless, easy to control things. Feels like the base assumption. And so is there a difference between an easy to control population and the government that they elect?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

I think that the people have very little say in who gets elected. I think the lobby is the most significant player.

[Interviewer]

The lobby or lobbies.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Lobbies. Okay. And they're a product of what?

[Interviewer]

Using money to influence politicians? Or is there something deeper there?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah, I see. I see politicians as WWE actors. Their job is to create an acceptable narrative to justify why all of the money is serving a smaller group of private corporate interest.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so it's bread circus and government.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

So those are the things that if you're well fed, if you're entertained and you have a plausible story of like, oh, I can influence this system, you. You can numb the people out enough that the power structures that are actually. And I'll say, when I say running the system, I think you mean controlling resources and money such that they can acquire the highest utility thing in the world, which is access to capital.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Well, money is just a construct to end up with the assets that they actually want, which is the real estate, the gold, the hard assets, the real assets. By being able to create the money, they're able to swap money, you know, value that is designed, as we were about to go into, to go down in value in exchange for assets that are designed to go up in value. And so what they actually want is resources, strategic choke points, commodities, real estate, land, gold, more recently Bitcoin. And so they are just using a fiat currency system in order to acquire assets. And then eventually, in a cyclical nature, the slow destruction of purchasing power of that fiat currency hits the point where it gets to an end of a cycle and therefore they throw the monopoly board, reset the board, and start again. And that's what I think we are right now. That's a typical, you know, can take a decade or two in order to manage such a transition. But I think we're there right now.

[Interviewer]

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[Interviewer]

Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action. We'll get to that in a second because that's very important for people to understand what these transitions really are. To understand the way that you'll walk us through it, though, we have to put a final sort of word on these power structures. Where the government fits in, where the people fit in. Then I think people will be able to track what I'll call the swarm of locusts that gobble up resources in one area and then take the control and wealth that they're able to extract from that, move on to the next to gobble everything up there. But for that to make sense in terms of the mechanism of we need to put a bow on these different power structures. So when I first encountered your ideas, the one thing that I had a hard time accepting was there's a sense of coordination that I don't believe humans are capable of. And the reason I think that is when you look at a TV show like Succession, I think that it reveals something true about people that play these very intense power games, which is it requires somebody who's I'm going to round this stuff, but narcissistic hyper aggressive, low in empathy. And so they'll be fighting within their own family to make sure that like if a father has a very aggressive son, that the son is kept in check. And so they'll do horrible things to their own children to make sure that they're subservient to them. And so if they're willing to do that to their own family, I have a hard time buying that there's this hyper cooperative group of elites that exist above this system. Now you've been very clear to say these are power structures. And so that's probably the first important piece of this. But are these power structures not in competition internally for control of the Fed, the Pentagon, the whatever? Like they're going to be, there'll already be infighting and then there's going to be a war happening between the financial industrial complex, the technical industrial complex. Like they will have their own wars. So how should people understand how this machine will be capable of doing the thing we're going to go to next, which is literally go bleed England dry, then bleed America dry, and now presumably we'll move on to China and bleed China dry. How is it possible for that level of coordination to exist?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah, so I think what we. Firstly, it is a ruthless game. And just like in a mafia, there is a hierarchy and preservation of the structure overwrites anyone that tries to deviate and play a power play. And so structure and architecture become really important. And so people have real world examples

[Interviewer]

of where a person challenged the structure and was dealt with.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

I think JFK is one of the most obvious examples in terms of American. I mean, there's example after example. I mean, we could even go more into questioning what happened with Trump, what happened with Charlie Kirk. I think, please, let's, let's go, I think a layer back. So the monetary system is a Ponzi scheme by nature. So I talked about that. All money is created as credit. And so if you want to create $1,000, it has to be borrowed into existence. That is the nature of money. It's just a digital entry in a bank's computer, but it also needs to be repaid plus interest. And so the game that was engineered in, firstly the Dutch Empire, then the British Empire, then three times in America with the central banks, and then global central banking that exists today is that there's not enough money to pay the interest.

[Interviewer]

It just literally doesn't exist.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

It doesn't exist. So there's only two ways of solving that problem. The money either needs to be invested in an Asset that appreciates in value, that can then cover some of the interest, or you keep rolling over the debt. And so that is the game. The game is that if too much of that money is just invested in non performing assets, then the system breaks because you, when you repay that loan or default on that loan, the money disappears. And so you have the reverse cycle. And so every time that happens, you need a guarantor to the system. So the banks get to create the money and they receive the additional interest. And the only way to do it is to roll over. And so they have a risk management profile of who they should be lending to in order to meet that goal.

[Interviewer]

Because the system must grow at all times to continue working.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Absolutely, yes. And that creates an incentive structures in all sorts of levels. At the individual level, the corporate level, the government level. But the central banking system was created to guarantee the system. And so the central banking model effectively does a couple of things. It guarantees that when a bank takes excessive risk that they're too big to fail, as we saw in 2008. And therefore the government is on the hook in order to bail out the system, which creates a moral hazard, which means that bad behavior, you can be over speculative knowing that you'll be guaranteed. And the other thing it does is it creates mechanisms for the government to infinitely borrow. And so the bond market, it can be a buyer of last resort for a government that can no longer find people to invest in their debt. That's where we're at right now in America, the auctions, approximately 40% of the auctions are now being mopped up by Reserve brokers and the Federal Reserve itself. And remember, gone a bit far here, but the Federal Reserve is owned by the banks. So the shareholders of the Fed are the banks. And as you put more and more money or government debt on that balance sheet of the Fed, they even receive a 6% dividend per year from that money. So the bigger the balance sheet gets, the more they get, but the banks are taking the risk. So the government just effectively becomes a piggy bank for rolling over this debt. And then they want to make sure that the debt goes to them. So the government is the other half of that. And the government's job is to take on the debt. And then you need a mechanism for getting that debt into private control, which is the stock market. So the stock market is make sure that that debt goes to prop up these stocks or contracts. And so they need a lobby in order to make sure that they can have an auction system where all of the Politicians become as useful to all these different lobbies and they auction them off. And your career only progresses if you deliver enough value for the lobbies, and that is the career of a politician is to make up a narrative to pretend that he's doing stuff for the people while serving the lobby. And the more useful they get to the lobby, you ultimately may get to be play president.

[Interviewer]

Very interesting. I think it is. It's important for people to understand that you say the lobby as if it's one thing, but it's really a bunch of competing interests. Is that true or false?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

True.

[Interviewer]

Because in America right now, in this moment, when people hear the lobby, they think apac. And so it triggers what Michael Mouse would call a mousetrap of like, it's ze Jews. And so, and maybe that is the theory, maybe it's not, but when I think of it as this is a whole bunch of competing interests, but they're all motivated by the same thing, which is I want access to power and capital. So to your point about structurally, they're not arguing maybe about the specifics. They are. But there's two things I think important. One, people need to understand that lobbies find their candidates very early. So they'll find them at the city level and they'll say, go do this thing. And if they go do that thing, then they fund them more, and then they say, go do this thing, and then if they do it, they fund them more. So by the time they get to the national stage, even if it's just that they really believe those same things and they really are fighting with their conscience. But they have the lobby, meaning they, the lobbies, any one of them. When they're looking for candidates, they start with a really broad field and then only the ones that are useful to them, even if it's useful, again, out of their own true beliefs, they find the ones that will serve their interests the best. That's an important thing to note. And then second, we need to understand the mechanism by which all of this is funneled into the stock market. And you said it happens, but can you walk us through how it happens?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah. So let's do an example of lobby. So, J.D. vance, for example, his name's not J.D. vance. He was groomed by Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is a keynote in the technical industrial complex. And he was DARPA funded, which is a venture capital arm of intelligence and military. And he created Palantir and he is given military grade technology that was created by the government with a Pentagon budget that is then transferred over to private, through private public partnerships. And so every piece of technology, almost every single one of them, if you do a similar forensic investigation, it was all of the American innovation was originally invented for killing people and it was handed over to a company. And they groom entrepreneurs and create a story around that entrepreneur that is often very sensationalist, but they are often chosen to receive that technology.

[Interviewer]

Now who's the they in this situation? Are we back to the lobbies or. I look at Peter Thiel and I may have. This may just be me with a completely distorted view of what's real, but I look at Peter Thiel and I think this guy's smart and he has been out there talking about the way that he views the world and how things should be for a very long time. Since the time he was at Stanford, he's been working with David Sacks. They wrote a book together. Like, this isn't somebody who I would say is obviously a product of some other thing. This feels like a guy that really knows his shit. Now people might, I mean, people call him the Antichrist. What? I'm not debating that. I'm just saying he's very effective. I would put forward that he's effective without whatever secret thing is behind the scenes. Now, he may be amplified by getting access to things other people don't get to. But help me understand, do you see him as somebody that was groomed like from 19, 20 years old or.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah, there's. Look, there's a spectrum, right? And everyone's got their, their own different story. But there is a process, just like when you want to climb a mafia, there's a process of becoming more useful to the financial industrial complex and getting access to capital. And JD Vance is a good example. So he's groomed by Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is very much involved in the police and surveillance state military grade artificial intelligence technology that is getting global government contracts right now to commit crimes against humanity in many countries, including Gaza. So it was Palantir's technology that was deciding. I call it genocide as a service. I call what they're doing in west bank occupation as a service. I call what they're doing with pre crime arrests and scraping social media data in the UK as pre crime Palantir technology. But anyway, so if you're in a mafia, they first try and bring you in. They put you in a compromise situation where you're desperate. This happens when they build militias all around the world and various other things through war zones. Then you get some financing. If you're trying to Achieve something. There's different degrees of this model. If you are useful with that financing, you get more financing. And if you're useful with that, you get more financing. And then eventually you hit a level where you have to join a compromise network. And so this is often when I worked in investment banking, there was a level where I got to where they want me being a bit more degenerate.

[Interviewer]

This is a good time. Give us a quick rundown of your background, then we'll pick back up with the degenerate offer.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

My background is I used to work in investment banking. I started in stockbroking as basically selling shares. I then worked in market making. I learned that that's all about market manipulation for the financial industrial complex.

[Interviewer]

And do you feel you were being groomed at this point? Yes, knowingly, like, hi, I'm Bob, I'm here to groom you. Or they were just like seeing if you would rise up the ranks.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

There's a culture which makes you succeed and there's a culture which won't let you succeed. And so when I went to corporate finance, whereas helping companies go public and constructing some of these types of plans where you scenario plan and figure out, okay, what contract would you get in this type of war zone and various other types of constructions, in investment banking, they want you compromised. And so it starts with inviting you to parties. It then involves asking you to do things at parties, whether it be drugs, whether it be sleeping with prostitutes, whether it be any of that. Because they want you in the compromise network. They need you where they've got something on you. And if you choose not to partake, you're not going to progress. You know, I left in 2006 and I could see who succeeded and who doesn't succeed. Once you have compromise, and if you're at the higher echelons of compromise, you've got very sophisticated networks like the Epstein revelations. And you know, then everything's about leverage. And the more you succeed. So you've got to remember, most people think of Peter Thiel as a wealthy billionaire. I think of a billionaire as somebody that has a billion dollars of gold or could send a billion dollars of bitcoin. Most people's net worth is dependent upon compliance with the financial industrial complex. Even Elon Musk. Elon Musk was allowed to buy Twitter because he was able to place his Tesla stock as collateral in order to get a loan from the financial industrial complex, whether that be JP Morgan or Citi. Then he is told what investors will be co investing, which is the Gulf sovereign wealth Funds or the transnational capital. And then he is constructed with share options where if his share price goes up, then his net worth increases. But they lever his net worth to the kill so that if he ever does not comply, then they can knock down the share price and they can knock down his net worth and draw him back into compliance. And we've seen that with Elon Musk a lot. When we've had these tit for tat with Trump, when we've had focus on Tesla. Oh, now you get Goldman Sachs is giving you a $2 trillion SpaceX IPO, you have to buy your fiduciary duty to shareholders. And who are those shareholders? BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, Transnational Capital, Gulf sovereign wealth funds, Chinese shell companies. Once you work for Transnational Capital, once you are trying to, at the highest level, ipo, your net worth is dependent upon compliance with the financial industrial complex by design. By design. They create subordinate structures through the process of securitization, through debt, through compromised networks, through leverage, through blackmail operations. And the higher you want to go, the more compromised you generally are.

[Interviewer]

Do you have a sense of what Elon was doing that got the tit for tat with Trump to trigger? If that really was the power structures bumping him back in line, what was he doing that they didn't like?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah, power plays. So Elon is a node in the technical industrial complex. Trump works primarily for the financial industrial complex and the technical industrial complex. He's not a neocon, he's not a military industrial complex guy. But he needs to compensate them if he's going to give more power to finance. That's why you have to compensate them with various wars and operations that reset things.

[Interviewer]

So the way to understand the guy that comes to power saying no new wars, the reason that he then started wars is because I've got to balance these guys out. I want to do all my crazy stuff over here for the financial industrial complex, which already love me because I'm aligned with them. This is just how I operate. But I've got to throw a bone to these guys. So I'm just going to go blow up Iran real quick.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah, but then there's bigger operations. He doesn't decide to blow up Iran. You know, his job is to give a story of why he's blowing up Iran.

[Interviewer]

So somebody comes in, is like, we are blowing up Iran. So get good at explaining this.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yes. Yeah. You need to come up with a narrative. And that's why I think his social media posts are so inconsistent, because he doesn't necessarily know what's coming next and he's not deciding. These are longer term operations, these are multi decade operations in order to reset energy flows. Ports, access to ports, split the world up. These are long term negotiations based upon power dynamics. Way above Trump. But even if you look at Trump himself, he's a great example. Let's look. Who were his three biggest funders to his latest campaign? The number one was Elon Musk, $250 million and he's a node in the technical industrial complex. Number two was the Mellon banking family, the financial industrial complex. And number three was Mariam Adelston. Who's your Israel lobby? Who Israel is a node in the military industrial complex. And so what you'll notice is there's different factions and you did the Israel conversation earlier. AIPAC is the 14th most important lobby but they have plausible deniability stories and right now they are utilizing the extraction of the Israeli asset and they are deliberately allowing social media influences to destroy the reputation of Israel. This is not to say that Israel isn't involved in crimes against humanity. Like I spend a lot of time, I almost have to take off my analytical hat and put on my humanitarian hat sometimes because people confuse me if I put on my humanitarian hat for a second. I spent years on the Palestinian cause. It is the sickest crimes against humanity what is being done. It is a laboratory for the technology that America cannot test. So it does it in a Palestinian laboratory. Everything that is coming home right now was tested in the most extreme circumstances to kill Palestinians.

[Interviewer]

Can you give me some examples? Is this technology we're talking about?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

So the goal of Palestine was to set up a series of events that would lead to the complete destruction of Palestine. There was a bribe that was set up to Egypt where they were meant to accept $18 billion debt forgiveness by the IMF in order to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians and put them in the Sinai Desert. That was a forever war model. Greater Israel project is a narrative in order to justify the destabilization of of the Middle east that's been going on for a long time.

[Interviewer]

Did Egypt do that?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Egypt didn't do that because they aligned with another power structure which is the Gulf countries. And the Gulf countries interestingly became more important as China rose. And so because China's buying so much oil, because China's buying so much oil, their sovereign wealth funds goes up. They then became one of the major shareholders in BlackRock. The CEO of Saudi Aramco gets a board seat on BlackRock. Now they have influence over the most Important node in the west, which is Blackrock. Now, they didn't ethnically cleanse the Palestinians because the Gulf countries and China had an alternative plan.

[Interviewer]

We're hitting pause for a moment, but there's plenty more ahead, so don't go anywhere. Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action. So this goes back to what I was saying about these power structures are competing.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer]

Got it. Okay, so Egypt aligns with the power structure that doesn't agree, so they don't do it. So this amorphous competing blob goes. We have another option. I'm guessing you're going to say that is the Israel option. Like, how do we end up Israel?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Okay, so once you get beyond the nation state level, if you can buy into that thesis, you can see the factions of power are aligned within these complexes. So let's take the Middle east, which is one of the most complicated ones, but let's take it. So Israel was a construct of the British Empire. It was created between the British government. For Walt Rothschild, who was a prolific war financier, the Rothschild family's game was funding both sides of wars. And that has been a constant theme throughout. Now, this is a time in which the British Empire needed vast oil resources. We were in an industrial revolution. We were transitioning power from the British Empire to the American Empire. The British East India Company had bankrupted the UK Government. The bank of England distributed all the assets to the financial industrial complex. And then we set about doing the same in America. Prior to that, you had the creation of the Federal reserve, World War I and Israel was declared via the Balfour Declaration from the British Empire to Walt Rothschild in 1917, the same year that Wall street funded the Soviet Union and the Bolshevik Revolution to implement communism in Russia so that most of the Russian gold ended up there. That's the background. And by the way, the same family, the Warburg family that was on the board of the Federal Reserve was also on Rice bank, the German central bank that transferred much gold to the Hitler regime every time he invaded a country. So you had fascism, you had the Federal Reserve system in America, and you had the communism that was all funded via the same type of structure, this financial industrial complex.

[Interviewer]

Okay, for this all to make sense, I need to follow one line of questioning for a second to see where it terminates. So the British government decides that they're going to go along with the Israel project. The reason they wanted to do that, if I understood you correctly, is they owed something or they wanted to win over the Rothschilds. So they say, cool, this thing matters to you for reasons we have not yet discussed, but it matters to you. You want it, we'll give it to you. But you're going to have to keep funding war. Like what were they hoping to get in that exchange?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Exactly. And not only we have to keep funding war, you have to keep funding war because war is the industry. What is, what is the industry? The industry is finance war. That war then leads to the ability to steal resources that are needed. Those resources then lead to massive destruction. That massive destruction leads to rebuild contracts. And those rebuild contracts is what makes up a massive amount of GDP in such an economy. So then you have resource acquisition, profit from war, profit from the rebuild, and then also when the rebuild more recently, today you have control grids with Palantir and technology and Oracle and all the different complex nodes within that structure. So there is a very well understood model that was done by the Dutch Empire, the British Empire and covertly into the American Empire. And it's always been the model. So they needed oil resources and destabilization. So war allowed them to break up the Middle east, install monarchies, call it Seis Pico, which was the French Empire and the British Empire and make sure that the region is always at war. And that was the design. And Israel was a node connected to military industrial complex in order to create a false narrative, the weaponization of religion, to have a story for the people while they're actually just causing havoc in the region and destabilizing the region. And at the higher levels of power. They're weaponizing both the Muslim faith, the Jewish faith and the Christian faith, which is how all wars are done. Whether it's Christian crusaders, whether it's recruiting radicalizing Jews in order to join the idf, whether it's operations to create the fake war on terror, whether it's evangelical Christianity believing that they can weaponize the Bible, re translate it and say that you need to protect Israel. These factions of power are aligned. So the Zionist narrative in Israel answers via the lobby. People think like Netanyahu's in charge. He's like, he's, he's just middle management. He answers to the military industrial complex, which is stockholder value Albert systems and all of the different evil technologies that are created and tested in these war zones. But who is he aligned with? He's aligned with the neocons in America. The neocons also just happen to support evangelical Christianity and the protection of Israel. And so as I said, they're actors. These people are pretending that they, you know, that they care about this, but they don't care about the Ten Commandments and the evil that's, that's created from it. There is also interesting stuff within the Iran side,

[Interviewer]

I think before we get there, because this started, I'm trying to figure out what was being tested in Israel that's making its way back, back. So that helps paint the picture of the destabilization which allows for resource acquisition, understanding the whole time that there's like these different fighting factions, but we were trying to understand. So Egypt is like, given this opportunity, hey, you can ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. They reject it. I'm still trying to get the answer for, from where I'm sitting, it looks like Israel is going, oh, cool. Yeah, we'll take the ethnically cleansed vibe. We're here for that. But the actual immediate question that we're trying to answer is the US is using this or the military industrial complex is using this as a testing ground for presumably things, weapons and technology that they will later use in larger scale wars to move larger amounts of resources, if I'm understanding what you're saying correctly.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah. And the main thing they built out was through technologies like lavender, which is a Palantir technology that committed the genocide, was using facial recognition surveillance software in order to create the optimum amount of chaos without actually looking like it is a genocide. And targeting border control. All of the security stuff that's actually now being utilized in the uk, Ukraine, Europe, Saudi Arabia and even America right now with border policies. And so all this technology comes home, maybe in a less extreme version, but they do the really extreme stuff over there. But then it comes home. And this is the construct of the police and surveillance state that's being built in the name of technological innovation and that's privatized. The government pays for it, then the technology is transferred over to private partnership. They get more and more government contracts and then they go public and the financial industrial complex takes over through creating, you know, subordination vehicles that we talked about.

[Interviewer]

Okay, let me, let me ask just a calibrating question. Are there good guys and bad guys in any of this or is this just all bad guys?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

You could be as good as you want, but you won't progress unless you comply with the structure. So while cards do exist, of course, and in my experience, it is designed to slowly bring out the worst behavior in you.

[Interviewer]

The climb to power.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

The climb to power, yes.

[Interviewer]

Okay. And that's because that's the thing that is leverageable.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yes. And so if you don't do it yourself. Naturally. It will be enforced upon you. Otherwise you won't make it.

[Interviewer]

Okay. I do want to keep coming back to the people at large because I can tell from my own sanity I'm not going to want to live at the level of all these power structures. Well, you already have, because this is centuries old. Yes and no. So the one thing I will say that I bump into with your. I'm not even saying I will yet contest it, but there's an element of the power structure that I think you leave out that this is the perfect time to talk about, which is the masses have a very powerful role to play, which is the Kompromat only works on people because they. Because they're all compromised. So they don't give a shit. Like, if you're raping kids or whatever to them, that's who cares? What they know is, I'm going to show this to the masses and the masses are going to turn on you and they will tear you apart. And so that feels very powerful for me as somebody who views himself as a part of the people and not a part of the power structure. And so just as a point here, hey, everybody. There is like a very powerful role for people because I think we're in the age of waking up. The velocity and volume of information that social media has brought about makes it possible for anybody with the interest, the fortitude and the intellect to parse through all this stuff can have a more meaningful voice than previously. So, okay, I just say that for my own sanity. Okay, so they are getting the Kompromat. It brings out the worst in you. It brings out the worst in you so that they can weaponize that against you by showing it to the masses, as they have done with the Epstein files, so that the masses will turn on those people selectively. Now, they obviously want to control who gets dipped into the bat of acid, that is the populace. But that feels like the full chain of events. Any disagreement there?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

No.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so now to put a bow on Israel before we move on to Iran, why did Israel take the offer to ethnically cleanse that Egypt rejected? Why did Egypt reject it? Was it moral grounds? And why did Israel take it?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

All right, well, that's what Israel was created for from day one. It was. The Greater Israel Project was to gain more and more land.

[Interviewer]

So that's why Rothschild wanted that. He just wanted more land for. Did he want more land for Jewish people or did he have some other thing going?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Well, I mean, there's conflating interests here, but Primarily I default up to what is the financial incentive here? So you may have some ideological sideshow as well, or that you may have an ideology that's driving. Okay, that. But what, to me, the creation of Israel was the radicalization of the Jewish faith based upon the fact that Europeans didn't want Jews in their country at the time. They wanted to put them somewhere and the business model was population growth. And so they did.

[Interviewer]

Hold on. You said that the British government did Israel for Rothschild because they needed him to keep funding wars. He was like, fine, however you're going to do this thing for me. But now you're saying that it was actually something else. It was the desire to get rid of the Jews from Europe, from England, from the empire.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Well, I mean, if you go back to those times, those were like, I hate to use the word anti Semitic because it's been weaponized to the point of ridiculousness now, sure, where anyone talking against Israel is accused of being anti Semitic, but that was an anti Semitic era. You know, that was, you know, the Jews were, you know, if you think about it, this goes back into the finance conversation. Christianity forbade usury. So does Islam define usury? Usury is the process of using interest in order to subordinate as well. This debt based Ponzi scheme is usury.

[Interviewer]

Okay, but debt is awesome. It can be weaponized, but it's also part of what allows us to build and grow and do incredible things.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

So is there a point at which that's an ideology? Previously it was strictly forbidden in Christian any country that had Christian values.

[Interviewer]

But yeah, when I hear the word usury, some people make a distinction between it's just interest, other people say it's excessive interest. Do you draw the line between interest and excessive interest? Or any interest of any kind is a moral hazard. I don't want to put words in there.

[Grainger Advertiser 2]

No.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

I mean, look, the entire financial system is built upon interest. It's impossible to. I happen to have exited it, but that was only because Bitcoin came along and I was able to exit it. There are different degrees of usury. I think it's the version of usury that we have, that is our fiat currency is 100% incredibly harmful because it is a Ponzi scheme and it leads to all this wars and everything that we're talking about to prop it up to create that perpetual growth cycle.

[Interviewer]

So to understand you, I must understand that your worldview is interest is bad.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

In an ideological world, I wouldn't have interest. Yeah, I would have profit share, I would have equity and if there is to have interest, it would have to be existing money that already exists. You can't combine the process of creating money and charging interest on the money created because that's a Ponzi scheme. And so if you have a mechanism for sustainably creating money and then people would like to charge interest. Personally, I prefer profit share mechanisms, I prefer equity and I prefer things that align incentives rather than you end up having to pay me no matter what. And you know, that's just. But I get there's practicality in this. Right? It's an interesting debate, but yeah, another, another version of usury is predatory loans as opposed to defining something that may be more equitable.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so not to bog us down there, that I think gets us close enough. So we need to finalize. Egypt does not take the Christian power

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

wanting to do banking, but it was prohibited. And so therefore, you know, Jews wanted to do it because they had carve outs in their religion where they couldn't lend to each other, but they could lend to anyone at some point.

[Interviewer]

This is in the early 1900s.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

This goes further back. Like this is like.

[Interviewer]

But I'm saying when is that debate? Because I'm trying to figure out why Israel takes the ethnic cleansing route and Egypt.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

What I was just giving is an example of how real power ends up using a group in order to look like they're the ones that are doing just that, which they are. This is a partnership of crime. But who's making most of the money? It's kind of like people blame Israel right now, which I do. I think Israel is fundamentally evil. But where's the money going back to. It's all in the US stock market. It's all US Financial industrial complex, US Technical industrial complex, US Military industrial complex. With a plausible deniability story. So that when America wants to divorce from that, which is what Britain handed over this project to America, they've got a. It was them, not us. Which is the story that we're going through right now. And yet everyone's saying. Because what is the real story? The real story is that America is constructed off a debt based Ponzi scheme that is governed by transnational capital and the Financial Industrial complex. And the construct is to transfer wealth upwards to the point where now 92% of the stock market is controlled by 10% of the FIC. And everyone's pension is managed by the FIC.

[Interviewer]

The FIC is financial industrial Complex.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Financial Industrial complex. And everyone's in debt to the FIC. And all businesses are subordinate to the FIC. In generality and the FIC is in charge. And by the way, $69 trillion of assets are foreign owned. So who is the FIC? It's not American aligned anymore. So I think with the reason we were doing this is because we were saying the Mick, the military industrial complex, it's more aligned with nationalism because it was what built America the manufacturing base, the Post World War II, Breton's order, the Cold War, all that stuff. It was built upon a manufacturing base in America that built out this vastly superior technology for killing people that was then privatized and built the stock market and the growth engine that fed the financial industrial complex to the point where now there's massive concentration of wealth and this K shaped economy where there's only those in debt and those that have the assets and those that have the assets is concentrating upwards and those in debt are getting significantly deeper into that position, which creates civil unrest. But I think we were doing the creation of Israel is a military story, which is a business model that the Brits, the Dutch handed over to America of destabilize regions, get access to resources and make sure that the oil can be used and the resources can be used for us and our technology and our consumption.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so let me paint a picture that tries to reconcile a couple things. So you said that Israel is fundamentally evil. So we've got England helping to create the state of Israel for essentially Rothschild. And they do that because they want him to keep funding the military industrial complex because that's their game. And he does that because this is an anti Semitic. Rothschild does that because this is an anti Semitic age. He's trying to find a home for his people essentially. And as that becomes an ongoing concern and actually starts gaining power and becomes its own nation, they have to plug into the game somewhere. So they've got the military industrial complex, financial industrial complex, or the technological industrial complex, or the three that we talked about, plus the sort of governmental thing that. Anyway, I'm not going to bog down on that. So they choose military industrial complex.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Correct. That's who they're aligned with.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, all accurate so far. Okay. And so now we come to the question that maybe when I get the answer I'll be like, that was a waste of time to pursue. But I really want to know why they. I think what you're saying is because they decide to go with the military industrial complex, that leaves.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

They were created for the military industrial complex.

[Interviewer]

Rothschild's like, hey, I've got a new business model that is the creation of Israel to Have a node in the military industrial complex in the Middle East.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah. And so their job is to destabilize the Middle east, ensure that there is never. That there's always war and making sure the empire and FIC can negotiate with countries to get their oil.

[Interviewer]

Okay. And so that becomes the reason why they take the Faustian bargain of, yeah, we'll do the ethnic cleansing because we got. We got to kill somebody. Because that's how this military industrial complex works.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

There always has to be what war never ends. There has to be constant revenue. You're not going to get a situation where the revenue goes down.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so why did Egypt reject it?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Because the world order changed in the meantime. And so if you think about it, this bottle, this model of America Post World War II, Bretton woods was predicated. That whole model, the transition from British Empire to American Empire was when you had all these organizations to transfer everything to America. International Monetary Fund, World Bank, United nations, all of these constructs of obfuscating crimes against humanity, War, resource extraction, build back better. All of that different model that built the stock market and the military base.

[Interviewer]

So did Egypt just move too slowly? So they had their opportunity, but they didn't take it.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

If you look at, again, deep history. But if you look at the. What was the defining moment for the end of the British Empire? If you look at it, it was a slow thing. It was over decades. World War I, World War II, Great Depression. But the ending moment that led to the decolonisation moment was the Suez Canal. It was when the British Empire could no longer use their naval fleet in order to stop the Egyptians from privatizing the Suez Canal and nationalizing it for their people. Very similar with straight up Hormuz. Today you have. You need a theatrical moment to define the end of empire and the transition to the New World Order. And that was the Suez Canal was that moment that led to all the decolonization declaration of independence from all the different African nations and various other colonies. And so Egypt over that time was the resistance against Israel originally. So what we call Iran today was originally Egypt. But Egypt got destroyed by. Through this process, through International Monetary Fund debt, through regime change, through color revolutions, through decapitation campaigns to take out leaders, replace them with American puppets because they weren't playing ball. In the Post World War II Bretton woods order, your job was to take on IMF debt, take on dollar debt. And if you don't give your resources for the American Empire, then there is a series of covert operations that either lead to you being overthrown assassinated, regime changed, uprising, color, revolution and the CIA and IMF Jekylls would turn up at your door and tell you what would happen to you if you don't comply. And if you don't comply at the worst case you get assassinated. So they can install a dictator that then uses the resources for the empire and not for the people. And Egypt was the biggest resistance against that in this moment. And,

[Interviewer]

and so they've just been permanently sidelined essentially.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Oh they've been, yeah. So then there was the slow multi decade decline of their economy. Debt subordination, IMF debt, currency wars, devaluation of their currency, subordination until eventually it had a military takeover and a military coup and then we had Arab Spring. Various other things too deep too. You could go down lots of rabbit holes just in one of these countries. But what happened? I think the multi decade strategy of realizing that the FIC is transitioning the world to multipolarity started leading up to the 2008 financial crisis.

[Interviewer]

So they were already doing it.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

That's how long this operation to transition to multipolarity is.

[Interviewer]

What made them decide to start the transition?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

A number of factors. Imagine, imagine if you're a fund manager. Let's do BlackRock. We haven't gone through BlackRock and why they're important yet, but let's say they're the American version of the British East India Company.

[Interviewer]

When do they start?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

80s okay. Yeah. And they created the mortgage backed security. They were the net beneficiary of the global financial crisis. Oh good. They got the contract to manage for the Fed the bailout money. They also got the contract to manage the big print during COVID for Treasury.

[Interviewer]

Meaning who was going to get it.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah. How to allocate the money, how to resources, the mergers, the acquisitions, the allocation of capital, which is something I don't

[Interviewer]

think enough people understand. So when we were going through all of this, they, they were actually. I didn't know it was blackrock but apparently it was blackrock. They were deciding to okay, this money that we printed. The way we're going to get it into the system is we're actually going to buy shares, we're going to buy debt and somebody has to decide which debt to buy, what companies to prop up. And that was them, you're saying?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah. BlackRock was the contractor that was consulted in both the global financial crisis and during the COVID Treasury.

[Interviewer]

So they literally decide who lived and who died.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

Yeah. So again, so what did they end up doing? So they ended up buying the ETF Department of Barclays. So the Barclays ETF exchange traded fund are the new mechanism for allocating capital and BlackRock is the largest manager of those funds.

[Interviewer]

So they actually spun it out of Barclays and they took it, spun it

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

out of Barclays, received some capital, bought it and now they're the biggest ETF provider in the world.

[Interviewer]

Damn.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

JP Morgan got access to capital. We're told that Bear Stearns and Lehman need to go and these decisions, you know Goldman Sachs said oh by the way we're not an investment bank, we're a retail bank so please bail us out and give us some of that capital. And you know those incredibly corrupt decisions were all based upon the mortgage backed security market which was an innovation of BlackRock. And Larry Fink was the inventor of it. Blythe Masters was the inventor of the credit default swap. And they knew through these liar loans that there was the central bank would bail out, that they were too big to fail, that it could be a massive wealth concentration and so they allowed the real estate bubble to blow up knowing that those mortgage backed securities would be bought by the Federal Reserve.

[Interviewer]

Now why didn't Stearns get protected in all this?

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

I don't have an exact explanation but it's interesting. Bear Stearns and Lehman were the two most intelligence connected nodes in this network. That's where the Jeffrey Epstein network like originally came from. I don't have a exact thesis for why they were not chosen but presumably

[Interviewer]

they pissed somebody off.

[Financial and Power Structures Expert]

I think it's more about preservation of power. So they act as the FIC, acts as a portfolio. You know, BlackRock's a shareholder in all of them. And so you know this construct that was created in the 80s with Blackrock was a rise to utility by the financial industrial complex. And Larry Fink and the others and the board played the game better than anyone and ended up rising to the top of this construct today.

[Interviewer]

That's it for part one. Make sure you are subscribed so you do not miss part two. Coming up soon. Foreign

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