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You the michael jackson of india.
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Michael jackson of india. Prabhu deva. Michael jackson master prabhu deva. I used to sit for half an hour, 20 minutes that we did song changed in our moment. Michael Jackson. But I was very happy with choreography only. I was not comfortable only to become hero. Only one thing, how much you put force, that much you come up, that's in your hand. You have to control your mind. I don't get addicted to anything except for dance.
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I'm super duper excited to host my next guest. Prabhu Deva sir. He's like the Michael Jackson of India. Probably like he has Padma Shri. He's acted in many movies, directed many movies, choreographed like lots of movies, won like national awards. Great human being, you know, helps a lot of people. Like you know, like very underrated on that side. Like you know, I want to explore that side of you today. And like I'm very fortunate because everyone in my family is a Prabhu Deva fan.
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You saw that?
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So. And I want to explore today with you Prabhu sir. What makes a human a human. What is your life? How did it evolve? The lessons learned in your life, Everything that you could share about like the journey, what happened, how it transpired. And I'm sure like there's a lot of hard work, there's a lot of like great people who showed up in your life at the right time. Including your father and his inspiration in your life and so on and so forth. So we'll be exploring all of those conversations and, and we'll keep it very casual today. Is that okay? First of all, so before you know we get into the topic of like you know, you the Michael Jackson of India. Like you know, before that happened, your father is like a phenomenal choreographer, right? Sundaram sir. And he's done a lot of movies prior to that. You learned Bharadhanatyam, you know, early in your life. But when did you know that your body can do all the tricks and the drama that it can do? Like when was that? When did it happen?
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Like the dancing, dancing piece of it. When did I really telling Even I don't know it happened. Because I was a typical Bardhana temp dancer. When you are learning suddenly one day. So my father is a choreographer. We used to see whenever you do real self you are not allowed inside. And very rarely ten times you would have seen in this lifetime. Go and watch and you will. That's it. So I used to see all dancers dancing. I used to get
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see
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who will get the chance father dancing to see. You know everybody will going for office or some other work. When your father is like he is dancing in front of you, you will get the chance like that. It's like something different. But I was very bad at studies. Very bad. So what happened? Till third standard I was good. They changed my school there I got upset. My friends all went and the school was like. It happened in a small house. Suddenly I went into the Santo Meyer Secretary school or Monfort school. It was huge. It was like ocean for me. I got overwhelmed. So from there I was very bad at studies. It was going on, going on. But I was bad, bad, bad. Then plus after 10 plus one I became very bad. So it was like it was going bad. So I was learning Varanadem also. And so that after 11th when my father was here. So I took the decision. But I don't know whether I can do it or not. But I took the Dshan. But more than me, my father, my guru, my everyone. So Guru Dharmaj master is a very angry person. Very angry person. He doesn't put to sleep a red and red. Only red and red. Very, very angry person. Like you can feel that. But very jumbo tango everything react. He loves me a lot. Like. Like literally loves me a lot. So he came to know the he was amazed. So suppose one near Kathu one year. You will teach me in 10 days. But I don't know that I am doing it. I think so he is dancing everything. He's teaching one and a half minute one jati something. If it is five minutes, song something is there. If it is one and a half minute we need. I will do in the next one and a half minute. I used to do that everything. So what he will do next? He will pile up two minutes, two and a half. What I used to do full five minutes. Immediately I used to do five minutes. So he got. I think so he got. This is a different boy. I must give my everything. He was teaching me like. But they teach in the Kung fu picture every train they used to. I used to sit for half an hour, 20 minutes. So they thought. Then I was very bad what to do. That made me to do what the question is I can do. I was passion. I'm not did passion heart from year I did it from inside. I was. I was like where Amari is in the different world. For me even now in a choreograph it's a different.
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You're in a trance.
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I'm in a trance. Correct.
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You know my father's name is Natarajar. No, like so it's no like so you, you are an inspiration to so many people. So many people. Like you know, like I remember when the first song Mukala Mukhabala came out and like you know we, I saw that Kadal movie. All of those like were like such a. Like a different kind of a character, a different Persona. A man who can twist the body in so many different like, like contours and different ways used to be very fascinating. Like who's this guy? Like you know, he looks like Michael Jackson and you know, he performs like one. Like and everyone was fascinated. I, I and at that time I was in intermediate college, right? Like so we were all like Prabhu Deva fans. We all used to like, you know, keep playing the songs and listening and kind of like you know, humming to it and remembering you. And like you know, seeing you dance in TV like on the part alone for like you know. So we used to keep watching and it used to be such a fascinating thing. So coming to the so you know, you mentioned the influence of a guru. So was he like an angel to you?
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Like how do you define more than that? My two masters. Dharmaraj master, Lakshmi Narayan master. Like more than angel, like God. Only because of them. Only I know the dance. Because of that training they don't do. They taught me discipline, hard work, punctuality. Because my master used to come fight. You don't believe. Six o'. Clock. It's like sunrise Murray Correct. 550 will be there. Can you believe? How can a person like 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 550. So punctuality. And he is very neat also. Cleanliness. See everything. Discipline. He is like fire. First like fire. Red and red. Used to show me when he was like he was 60. But our kala Dicharna part the sound strong. See everything. Discipline, hard work, punctuality. Cleanliness.
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So it was so when how was the like how did you get the first break in cinema? Like you know, when did that happen?
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See, my father was a choreographer. No. So I was bad. So what you will do? I don't know, do anything. So I came with my father. That's why.
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And then you like you VRA like was your first movie.
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First choreography.
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Choreography. Choreography with Kamalasan.
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Kamalasan sir. You know him? Everybody knows him. He encourage talent. So that is his greatness. Thanks to him and Shivaji productions and director
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learning dance. Now you're teaching dance to people like who have already like you know, arrived. Like what was that? Feeling what? Like what was going in your. Courageous.
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Because I don't know.
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So what was your first interaction with Kamal sir? How was it?
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I met before only. Like before movie itself. My father used to do Aburu Sadharandal. I used to do. I would assist it. So. So whenever Kamal sir sees me. Oh no. You must. He used to tell my father. You must send him to America or anywhere to learn ballet and tap dance. So you'll become like. Like that. He used to tell before only he will become a big guy. You must send him you. But those days you don't know. Something different. You must send him. He is very good. He will become good. Good. And so is that. Then so. Director production side.
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Like you know, the Raju sir is a dancer. Nagendra sir is a dancer. So what is the role of Amma?
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Amma housewife. Somewhere everybody came and succeeded. Also
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you learned Bharadanatim. And then like you know, you like you know you are like the ultimate Michael Jackson of India. So like. So do you think a lot of your dance is actually really western or is it like Indian?
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No, I don't think western. But I will put my full effort. 200%. I'll put my effort. It's not that you know, so I didn't think of.
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But if you think about like Bharatanatyam, that's like such a traditional dance like 2000 years. But like the western dance one day like you know, it's like more recent.
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Might be in the generation. That beat it song changes. Okay, okay, okay. The other way impact was there.
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But how close is those two dance forms though? Like our P dance. Michael Jackson P Dance.
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Very good.
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So how like you were actually like, you know, in these memorial services like you know, they were performing, you know, Michael Jackson in Munich, right? Like you went and performed there.
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Correct.
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So how did it feel to get onto that world stage?
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Like you know, actually more than happiness. We are tensed. You don't believe me? Raju Shobana madam. My brother Rahman sir came and one more drummer. Okay. So we went and we performed Bharudhanatyam.
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So being on that stage like was it different than being in. In front of camera or like
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in the beginning? See we are used to camera. Used to it. Foreign. Totally foreign crowd. Finally because sponsors my hours is final. On that peak Michael Jackson performed. He was performing his stage next to Pandro. That was the top tension. Michael Jackson has to come in our act. Better. Then we finished our thing and we went.
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So did you meet him? Did you like. And did you like perform in front of him and. Or you perform together.
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I was like a fan only. You know. Come, come, let's take a photographer.
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It is Urvasi. Urvasi and Mukala Mukabla. All those songs like the changed like the perception of dance. And what could dance mean in Indian cinema?
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I think the credit of course producer and the production. The production and the brain of Shankar sir director and shoot. That brain, the costume, the brain full and full brain A to Z Shankar sir. And of course Rahman sir. The music was tremendous. So in the mode of communist. I think made that more possible credit for him.
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Like you know. But like, you know, the. You should also take some credit. No, like, because like the dance became popular.
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Like because of this central behind music. Of course dance also is there. Why it went the confluence of that.
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So which is of all the three songs, which one was your most favorite then?
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And then like everything, everything is good.
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But like what is your ultimate favorite? Like what actually like put you on the map. But like number one. Like you can only pick one.
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Thank you.
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So. And then you got into movies, right? Like, you know, you were the actor in all of these things. How was that transition? How did you prepare for that transition?
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No, I didn't prefer. But I was very happy with choreography only because see, choreography is like 3 days, 10 days, 15 days shooting. I get very like fever. Mari, Vanda Vandrovar, marijuana. And I was alone very young, staying alone in the room. It was very tough for me. I was not comfortable only to become Yiruk
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transition. But like. And the transition was it like an intentional movie that they made? Like they wanted to create a movie for you? Or was it like. And they wanted like a. A guy like you who can dance or what was the reason like why you. And so Shankar sir like really liked it popular also.
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So that's what.
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Got it, got it, got it, got it. Tell me more about like you know, your own beginnings. And basically how did it shape your perception of like human behavior? Like, you know, like when you think about like what makes a human a human. How did like all of your upbringings and other things actually like, you know.
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No, as I said, I want to be like a very normal child in any our house. But what I told the discipline there are it went inside slow poison Mari. That made me from the strong base that my gurus and school also normally for every school on time teacher. And those days teachers are very strict, you know. So you know, now they make. Make us discipline punctual. So everything concluded. We are very friendly to k.
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Your top two, three movies that you got into were like a very big hit. Yeah. Then you became a big sensational star. Like you know, people used to watch your movies and other things. Did the movies dry up or like did you make an intentional choice not to act? What. What was going on in your life after the first like you you acted in vip. You acted in like you know all these movies. So after that like you know, was there a decline in the number of
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days everything comes ups and downs will come.
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So how did you deal with that? Like and like you were saying go with the flow only like you didn't feel anything.
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I'm okay with everything. Go with the flow. Nothing to deal. How to deal also even I don't know when it happens. It happens now. That's okay.
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And so then. Then you decided to get behind the camera direction.
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No. It also happened. Not so. One day I was choreographing that producer asked Prabhu next film will direct. This was happened. Yes. I became a director. That's it. I was choreographing one song for this production. The same production is going to take next film. The producer asked will you dare for next millim? I told yes.
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What was that film?
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Varsham. Varsham. Then the first train song. So then first film I became director. Go with the flow. I never plan. I just.
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But direction. Choreography.
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Choreography. Next level Venus Direction for Korea is one part. Direction is full part. The next level.
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And there was no preparation.
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No. Before we took four or five months of. But anything
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like you know, you have to have.
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But shooting. That's what.
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And it was a very big hit.
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And I know thanks to the producer. He was very big support. And cameraman was.
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And then Siddharth.
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Siddharth very good. Everywhere team was too good thanks to that.
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And so what did. How did it feel like when you did that movie? Like you know. And it became a blockbuster. Like. Because the first thing you touch always turns into gold. Like you know, you get into choreography. It is like you know, everyone loves it.
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But then like the first few movies
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were a big hit.
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Of course I'm happy only. Very happy. We will be happy only. You know,
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like you know, like a lot of like what I gain from you is like you know, you're such a humble person. Like you know, you don't attribute like success to yourself. You're attributing to everyone else. No.
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Because that was the real thing. That is real thing. See first film we take Nuvas the songs DSP Devi Sripraja Gave a brilliant songs. Even the lyric writer gave a brilliant lyrics. Because telugu. So producer sat with him and got the see.
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But on the movie the sensibility like you know, if you're not like a Telugu speaking guy and you are making a Telugu movie, you need to have that sensibility. So most of your choreography was in Telugu.
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Yeah. 90% was like Telugu. 80 to 90%. I was doing choreography to Telugu only. So I know.
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And who was your famous, you know, star that you.
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Actually I like. I love him also. Because. He'll make me up 15, 16 only. No, he only made me a superstar. That time Srijivi sir was even now just whatever I used to tell you do same Balakrishna sir also. In that way everybody did. Thanks to all the artists. Everybody listened to me.
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How was that? Like you know. Feeling when basically like you know, it won a lot of awards also. Like you know.
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But that's okay. Very happy.
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Like a very blockbuster.
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Very happy. Very happy.
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And so what is your favorite movie that you directed so far?
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I love that film.
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Why is that?
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First film.
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First love. The challenge about like directing a movie and like you know, the anticipation that whether it is going to work or not. Like. Because like you know, you as a director are responsible. Like everything comes on your head. No, like as a director like no one says like the actor was bad or like you know, like this is the bad or that is bad. But everything comes on your head. Like how do you deal with that pressure.
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And I love tensions. It's okay. So when we do that. No, nothing. I. When I'm doing, I don't think about what you are going to think. What he is going to think. I don't think at all. I will go with my my mind. And I think I will do my cue mate. 200, 300%. But when it's getting released nearby that time the tension comes before I don't get tension at all. And also see when already I have done one movie, they will compare. I don't think about that. I will think this as my first film. I will give my 200, 300% fully. See what we can do. We can give her full thing next. God wish. So I will give my full thing. Whether it works, I don't know when you get it. I will do even for choreography or direction. I'll give my full everything. But while doing, I don't take tensions on the baggage. I don't take any baggage. I think this is my first film. I have not achieved anything. I don't think my.
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Does it come with practice or does it?
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No. From beginning. From beginning like that only I am like that. I don't take anything in my mind. People will expect something like I don't think anything in the picture. In the Sanko, Namayana, Panambudi. From my side I'll let me give. But when it's going to release that time the tension will come. Of course, that's normal. Then afterwards if it works, they will tell works. Then if it else doesn't work, whatever they say, they will say. I will accept it. What you can do, Accept it. That's it.
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So then you moved into Bollywood. Like you know, directing. Salman wanted one day like you know, it became a very big hit. So how did that transition happen? Like how did you go from see again
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same thing. I know him from many years. So once he saw my Tamil film, I really liked it. Prabhu, let's do in India. He told yes sir. That's how I became. Then Salman sir also. Salman sir knows me before. Because I already am popular. He loves dancing. So how Prabhu, I have done two, three, choreographing also before. Pra Raju also has done that way. He also accepted. Okay, let's Prabhu do. And because of Boni sir, Boni Kapoor sir and Salman sir, I became a director.
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That's it.
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Then it worked.
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It worked. So tell me a little bit. You know you are the most underrated person when it comes to helping humans. Like you know, you do a lot. Like you know, help. Like helping kids. Helping. Basically like a lot of charity work. Donations.
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No, but normally I don't tell.
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Why? Why do you not tell that from
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beginning not only me, many people are like that. Many people are like this.
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So what do you do? Like. So tell me all the things you have done. Like you know. Like you know. Because see like my. Like what I am trying to understood.
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But still. That's okay.
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Now see like in this world like the theme that keeps coming back again and again in your life is. There were people who showed up in your life that saw something in you that you did not see in yourself. Whether it was your guru. Whether it is the actor, whether it is the producer who actually gave you a break. Whether it is basically like you know, your own family. They saw something beyond what you saw in yourself. And so you are doing the same thing for others. So. But the world is moving away into a place where like we are. So there's so much hatred about each other. There is so much like you know, polarization. There is so Much like this lack of humanity today the correct. But the more we talk about this humanness. No. The more I think it will inspire others to follow that lead. That is why I wanted to talk.
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No, I Now I don't think so much thinking of Lola. I don't think only I am with my school friends. We'll talk. Even when I can help, I will help. When I can't help, I will tell them very normal for negativity we don't. I don't talk much of negativity and all. I'm like that. I don't think humanity.
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Yeah.
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Why only I don't know. I brought up is like that one. And brought up is like very simple.
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You won padma shri in 2019. How did it feel?
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Very good. But first they called me. Then they told sir you were getting it. But don't tell to anyone. So I thought it's a prank. Namanda. I was in discussion for Hindi film. So then I switched off my phone and I was like discussion. But then afterwards somebody messaged me sir, congratulations. Because I thought it's a prayer call. Because somebody told Sadhana number. I don't know message. So Namari word. They also told you got Paradama Shri. But don't tell anyone. We have to announce it later. More than me my father and mother was. My father was very, very happy. Super happy. More than when I get national award. I became a hero. I took him to my mother and father. When I was getting the Padmashi thing award from president, my father, mother came. They were very happy. I can feel that.
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Let's talk about technology and where technology is going.
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You know so wrong person. I know.
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No, no. But I think like you'll be very influential on this topic. So artificial intelligence.
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Yeah, but really talking. See, I'm not that much educated. But we have to compete with these things. And I think I don't know anything about those things. Technology. Even my phone also I can't talk YouTube. I even in YouTube I listen to speeches. More of comedy speeches, comedy, drama. Like that. That much only. And WhatsApp message they told this thing you can. I don't use it. I don't do technology much.
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But like you know it is having a very profound impact about like you know, how do you make movies? How do you make songs, the memes, the content.
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So somebody came and like what told you. I'm telling you purely. I couldn't understand what you're telling me. Two, three times they came and I said no, no, I have to still I'm not Getting to it. I have to sit with it. I have to understand because the beginning of the year now is like going to come.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like you're like see like what? Like I can tell about you is whatever you put your mind to, whether it is acting, whether it is directing, whether it is like.
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That's why I've not put my mind, I'm telling. That's why if I put so what I'm telling to when, when they come and explain sir, they say listen right when I'm studying only I didn't put my mind for this. Now you are making me educate how it is. Wait, wait. So I've not put correctly said I have to. But it will take time for me
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to so because see there are. There are some fundamental problems with how technology is moving. And that is why I'm actually doing this show. Primarily because if you take like example, there's a lot of improvements in health and healthcare. Like there is a research going on and there is a professor, very famous professor David Sinclair in Harvard University. Or like he believes in the next 10 years if you take a pill medicine you can live up to 250 years.
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Really?
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That is his claim. And there is a lot of research going on around. Like you know, how do you treat cancer better? Like we are seeing that already. Like cancer is cancer treatment protein. Like protocols are getting better. Like we are able to predict diseases better. The proteins are like, you know, they are able to come up with drugs faster. Like you know all of that vaccines and everything that came out.
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So when I went to my village, not about this year, this health thing, health only. So they used to tell the village. I used to believe village means what? Full organic. No, they used to tell Fulla Marnadik Rang chemical sport. Chemical sport department. I got shocked because of they used my friend who is a farmer, he used because of that only everybody is getting all these diseases. So our he knows this chemical fully. Don't believe Rabu. But that banana. That banana is also this papaya. Papaya is also he tell. I got shocked. This a village, you know they doing it what to do? Only we don't know. No, you are telling about the other side. So he not even studied our school. He knows about the soldier fully as a solar.
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So like so as a society. If you think about it, if we live longer, right? Like you know number one, in 1900s they used to die in the age of 40s, 50s. Mostly. They all died around 47, 48 years, 50 years. Like mostly like you know, and now like if you think about like the age and how long people live, 80s, 90s. But diseases are also going up, cancers like higher, like tumor disease. So there is a, there's a science, scientific ide, but which basically can actually make a human live up to 200, 250 years.
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With the same health.
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With the same health or better health. Better health because, you know, it'll be able to cure a lot of diseases. Early detection, but I don't know.
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No.
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So they're able to create proteins which will actually help like, you know, keep that body structure strong. Strong. Oh yeah. So.
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But that is okay. Danger.
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So, so in my question, if you go ask people, intellectuals, do you want to live longer? They say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to live longer. What will you do by living longer?
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I believe in, go with the nature only. Whatever nature says, we have to believe. I don't believe in that.
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So in the Murray world, like, you know, people are not aware of what is coming.
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Me, I am also.
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So the show is all about creating awareness about these topics. So we are talking about like, you know, so that's why like my show,
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without knowing only I'm talking to you,
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like, but like, you know, it has to be like, see, I want to also introduce humans like you, good humans, like, you know, so you have your, you know, if you go back and look at your life in general, you've been a very hard working guy, super talented, very humble. Right. You don't actually take any of the success to yourself. You actually attribute it to others. So a lot of good things about like you makes you a very good human. And that is essence of basically what we are trying to capture and bring it into, like how technology should behave. Because if the technology is not pointed in the right direction, we will use it for the wrong things. We will make like nuclear bombs. We will make like, you know, we will actually like, you know, create something which will destroy people. We will take away jobs. You know, today AI can make a movie faster than you can create a movie.
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Yeah.
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Like, and so what happens to the creator if it can remix all the movies that you did and create another better movie? What is Prabhu Deva gonna do? Andamari. So, and you know, how do you live in the society? How will you make money? Like today man's job is to go and work and like, that is his dignity. Like, if he doesn't work, he feels like, you know, like he's not doing his bit. No, he feels like, you know, not so relevant. So in the world where like you know, everything is done by machine. What will humans do?
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Chemistry teacher.
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So but chemistry teacher.
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Chemistry only Chinese. When I was studying chemistry was like Chinese. I was like what is this? How people are studying this? I got amazed like. Like that you're telling whatever same feeling I'm getting.
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But see this is like a impact that not only will have. How it influences us, but also it influences the kids.
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Yeah. Main. That is main. Yeah, I know.
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So that is my worry. So let's assume like you know, you have.
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I feel like I don't know whether I'm right. This is the correct answer. One of the answer. See my kid how they will ask to follow. Not only you see. I do daily exercise. She daily comes and do exercise with me. Piracy. So. Normalized. They are following like anything I can
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see two and a half years.
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So they are following it. It's not. But my daughter doesn't do it. We are not given phone evening whatever 15 minutes. Then they were changing wrong thing comes. They used to watch it. I'm trying my best.
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Yeah. So like you know, besides making movies, what else is your passion? What else is your.
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I love to recent time. I want to travel. I love to travel.
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So where did. Where did you try? What is last time?
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Vietnam. And I love to travel to Kodakana. It's not like far in one tuna. I love to travel. And after Covid.
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So where do you get all your inspiration for all your movies? Like where do you get the inspiration?
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See, normally I don't do stories but I will be fully involved with the stories when they come to. We want to do a film and all we will discuss about two, three stories are there. When the producer then the actor must like it. Then that's it.
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If you think about all of the deep fakes. Like you know, it's not. It's basically his body, your face. Ah, you've seen seeing like, you know. So there's a lot of like
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only that is only coming.
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So see and there are so many people recent like Elon Musk. Like you know, he has a software called Grok and Grok. Basically you could put an image of any kid in a. In Grok 13 year, 12 year old. And it will undress that kid, make it nude. And it went. And people were like just doing that creating all these pornographic material. And 10 countries actually banned his software because it was doing it. And all that these people can just say is like, you know, we are sorry.
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Yeah.
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So for those kinds of scenarios, how would you like go about thinking about like addressing this. Like you know, abdining and like. You know how do you like you are a real artist. You are a real star. You. You know, you have. You have done everything you know right by the books. And then there is the world which is like fake, fake and fake. And people believe fake is real. So see what is your take on that?
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See that's what I can't. This question is a big question. Like very brilliant. And something I can't tell. In a very small thing. I already told how we are one small thing. Like piracy thing. They don't feel it's wrong only. That's the problem. So the big. I mean whoever age. Are you educated and are you. We must go in the right path. I'm telling negativity. People are telling.
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It's okay.
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No. Why?
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Like if you were to like direct a movie to teach the society, what would that movie be about?
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I must be very educated if I know so much. I will do small, small things only which I know.
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Like you are a very good like director.
B
No, mine will be like Amarchitra Katha. I am that much. You're talking about Avatar 3. Avatar in that what knowledge I can get you understood what I'm telling. Small, small things. For that big big people or a big people. We will ask to think about that. I'm telling you so I know Small, small things.
A
But you're a big influencer. No? Like a lot of people follow you.
B
That's what I'm telling. In a small way. In a small, small things. Good things. I can. I can entertain dancing like my area. Is that what how much God has told me to do? I am doing that much only. Like. My contribution. Is that that much only?
A
Switching topics. So what is. What are the projects you're working on?
B
What like what is the next two Tamil films? One film is going to release Moonwalk and one more.
A
With who?
B
With Rahman. Sir is music and Manoj. It's a Behind wood. Behind woods. YouTube. I'm the producement run. Manoj is a director. Director. New. New. He's the CEO of Behind woods also. And one more thing. One more film I'm doing with the film with Vadivelu me. And after so many years that one and Telugu film I'm going to direct.
A
Okay. What's the name of the film? Telugu film.
B
Not it I have in my mind. But still production. I didn't like it. But I'm telling you this is good.
A
Okay. So what is your recommendation to young generation? Like you know people who are Wanting to become an artist or no, Normally
B
I don't advise any young because only one thing. How much you would force that much you come up. That's a new hand. I became this much, that much force. Only I put it. So don't complain. That's what. That's it. Work hard, it pays. If you work little, that much only.
A
So it was a very fascinating conversation with you. I really enjoyed it. You know, is there any parting thoughts for the audience? Like, you know, because we have a global reach and they would love to hear from you in terms of.
B
No, I'm telling you simple. Take it easy. Don't take. I don't take me seriously. Nothing. Don't take it seriously. Even if you have a fight. Fight. But forget it. It's okay. Now, if our brothers are doing something, if anybody, we will keep in mind then if a brother or our son does it. We just after five. Like that only we must think everyone because life is once be happy. Only happiness.
A
Are you a spiritual person?
B
Yeah. Spiritual means I daily pray and. Yeah, you do all of that? I do.
A
Very good, sir.
B
Somewhere it grounds us grounded.
A
No, you are like. You know, one thing that I really got from this conversation is very humble.
B
I don't know very what you wanted. I don't know whether I gave it or not. Because you asked for AI and all. I'm not that much what I feel is whatever. AI is a new technology and all as you said, we must guide the children. And I don't feel. Simple, simple things in the simple thing.
A
Like what? Like I hope that like, you know, we pointed in the right direction. And I like, you know, like, you know, people dying, people creating deep fakes. Like, you know, it feels very bad. Job is sad.
B
How do they feel? How the mind, the mind. Mind you have to control. Control the mind. You have to control your mind. You must not get addicted to anything that I feel.
A
How do you practice that?
B
No, sir. So I don't get addicted to anything till now, except for dance. I don't get addicted to anything. You don't smoke, you don't like that. I don't get addicted to anything. Not. I'm not telling about like. Like sweet. So last four months I left my sweet like that. One day I decided I don't eat sweet at all. No sugar. Like I don't get addicted to anything. Like for phone. Oh, okay. Two days. I don't want to see. I don't want to see. That's it. Very good. That not only for drinking, smoking. I'm telling for everything. I'm telling that mind controls. The mind control that you have to get it. I don't know how it is, but you have to control.
A
Correct.
B
We must be in our control and take it easy. Don't take it seriously. That's it.
A
Super, sir. Really enjoyed it. Really enjoyed it.
B
Thank you.
A
Thank you so much.
B
Thank you.
Host: Shekhar Natarajan
Guest: Prabhu Deva
Date: May 7, 2026
This episode of Tomorrow, Today, hosted by Shekhar Natarajan, features an intimate and wide-ranging conversation with Prabhu Deva, one of India’s most celebrated dancers, choreographers, actors, and directors—often referred to as the "Michael Jackson of India." The discussion explores Prabhu Deva’s artistic journey, influences, philosophies on discipline and humility, his approach to technology, social issues, and the evolving definition of humanity in a rapidly changing world.
“Discipline, hard work, punctuality. Because my master used to come fight. You don't believe. Six o'clock. It's like sunrise. 550 will be there. … He is like fire. First like fire. Red and red.”
(Prabhu Deva, 08:53)
“You must send him to America or anywhere to learn ballet and tap dance. So you'll become like ... He will become a big guy.”
(Prabhu Deva, 11:33)
“No, I don't think Western. But I will put my full effort. 200%. I'll put my effort.”
(Prabhu Deva, 13:38)
“We are tensed. … Michael Jackson performed. He was performing his stage next to Pandro. That was the top tension.”
(Prabhu Deva, 16:24)
“No, I didn't prefer. But I was very happy with choreography only. ... I was not comfortable only to become hero.”
(Prabhu Deva, 20:04)
“Go with the flow. I never plan. I just.”
(Prabhu Deva, 24:00)
“Days everything comes. Ups and downs will come. ... I'm okay with everything. Go with the flow. Nothing to deal. How to deal also even I don't know. When it happens, it happens now.”
(Prabhu Deva, 23:04)
“Direction is full part. The next level. ... While doing, I don't take tensions on the baggage. I don't take any baggage. I think this is my first film. I have not achieved anything.”
(Prabhu Deva, 24:20–29:46)
“Normally I don't tell. ... Many people are like this.”
(Prabhu Deva, 31:29)
“Even my phone also I can't talk. ... That much only. And WhatsApp message they told this thing you can. I don't use it.”
(Prabhu Deva, 35:54)
“You have to control your mind. You must not get addicted to anything that I feel.”
(Prabhu Deva, 54:22)
“How much you would force, that much you come up. That's in your hand. ... Work hard, it pays. If you work little, that much only.”
(Prabhu Deva, 51:52)
“Life is once. Be happy. Only happiness.”
(Prabhu Deva, 52:39)
“For me even now in choreography, it's a different... I'm in a trance. Correct.” (07:34)
“They taught me discipline, hard work, punctuality… everything. Discipline. He is like fire.” (08:53)
“Because that was the real thing. That is real thing. ... Even the lyric writer gave brilliant lyrics.” (25:39)
“I'm telling you purely. I couldn't understand what you're telling me... I have to sit with it. I have to understand...” (36:30)
“Mind you have to control. Control the mind. You have to control your mind. You must not get addicted to anything that I feel.” (54:22)
Prabhu Deva emerges as a disciplined, humble, and deeply self-aware artist for whom dance is both passion and meditation. He credits his success to the people around him—family, gurus, and collaborators—embodying the twin values of humility and discipline. While he openly admits to limited technological literacy, his human-first approach and concern for the next generation ring clear, urging simplicity and internal strength as the antidotes to a complex world.
The episode serves not just as a rich oral history of an entertainment legend, but as a meditation on work ethic, balance, and the enduring spirit of “taking it easy.”