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Sharon Eubank: Her message of Small Acts with Big Impact
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Sharon Eubank joins us to talk about her book "Doing Small Things with Great Love. She highlights how empathy and the strength of being powerful where you live make3s communities stronger.
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Tony Mantour
Welcome to why Not Me Embracing Autism and Mental Health Worldwide, hosted by Tony Mantour, broadcasting from the heart of Music City, usa, Nashville, Tennessee. Join us as our guests share their raw, powerful stories. Some will spark laughter, others will move you to tears. These real life journeys inspire, connect, and remind you that you're never alone. We're igniting a global movement to empower everyone to make a lasting difference by fostering deep awareness, unwavering acceptance, and profound understanding of autism and mental health. Tune in, be inspired and join us in transforming the world one story at a time.
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Hi, I'm Tony Mantour. Welcome to why Not Me Embracing Autism and Mental Health Worldwide. Joining us today is Sharon Eubank, a renowned humanitarian and director of humanitarian services for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. She's a passionate advocate for unity and kindness and has written a book entitled Doing Small Things with Great Love. In this book, her mission is clear. You do not have to travel to make a difference. You can be powerful where you live by understanding local issues and acting with great love. We are truly honored to have her share her transformative insights with us here today. So before we dive into our episode, we'll be back with an uninterrupted show right after a word from our sponsors. Thanks for joining us.
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Sharon Eubank
No, I'm happy to come on. I've listened to three or four of your shows and it's fun to hear how you really draw out good things out of people.
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Tony Mantour
Thanks so much. I really appreciate that.
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Sharon Eubank
The story based work that you're doing, that's while people remember you can listen to a podcast, but you know, the next day people say, what is it about? They only remember the stories and the way Tony made them feel about the issue.
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Tony Mantour
Well, again, I really appreciate that. So let's get into what you do. Can you give us a little background on what you do?
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Sharon Eubank
My day job, I'm the director of Humanitarian services for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. But a lot of what we do is based on volunteerism. A lot of research is starting to show when people volunteer in this very polarized, you know, community where we live right now, it affects their mental health. I have some specific examples about people specifically with autism, that their autism is actually the benefit. They're working in situations. They've been given assignments where they actually Excel because of their autism. It's fun to see that. And I think we live in times so much stress, there's so much conflict. People don't agree politically. We're looking for mechanisms to pull things together. So that's really what I do. For my day job last year, I wrote a book called Doing Small Things with Great Love. So it comes from Mother Teresa's quote, but it's just encouraging people. Here are 12 principles to follow. And don't make the mistakes that I've learned over 30 years when you're trying to do the right thing, but, you know, inadvertently do cross a line. So that's what I'd love to talk about.
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Tony Mantour
Okay. I do know. Not have a problem with that whatsoever. Before we dive into it, let's get a little bit of a backstory about it. People write books about various things. Ultimately, something has to create that passion to write it. So what was the passion that created you to write this book?
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Sharon Eubank
I've worked in the humanitarian sector for 30 years. I've worked internationally. I was the regional director for the Middle East. I've seen a lot of difficult kinds of things. Most of the time, people's hearts are good. They want to help. They see something on the news. They're aware of something in their community, and they feel something. I want to do something about that. I feel passionate. But sometimes the things that we do are the wrong things. We don't ever ask somebody what they wanted or we collect a bunch of things that we're going to ship over there. They're the wrong things at the wrong time. And so seeing those inadvertent mistakes, or having somebody call me up and say, I really want to do this, I thought, rather than me talking to people one on one, let me write a book and just tell the stories of what has happened. So there's 92 stories in the book. And that's my passion. My passion is to enable people to, where they live, be powerful. You don't have to go to Peru. You don't have to go, you know, far away. You can be powerful where you live, if you know the issues.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Now you've got 92 stories. Is that 92 different spots around the world?
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Sharon Eubank
I don't know, maybe 70. I don't know. Like, several of them are from the United States, but, yeah, they're from all around the world.
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Tony Mantour
Okay, so you've got 92 different stories. What's the common thread? Needless to say, they're all different. But there must Be something common that ties them all together.
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Sharon Eubank
The common thread is you are most powerful where you live. And you are, because you speak the language, you understand the culture, you're there all the time. And so you don't need to figure out, you know, I can go somewhere else. You have the most power to change things in the place where you live all the time. Yeah.
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Tony Mantour
That makes so much common sense. So if you would give me something that just stands out to you. It stands out because it really reflects what you're talking about.
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Sharon Eubank
I can tell you a story about how I learned this. It was after the Southeast Asia tsunami, and I was in Sri Lanka, and it was five months after the wave. But that wave was so big, it was 30ft high. It went two miles in. It just caused so much destruction, 300,000 people died. I was there trying to help people get their businesses back up and going. But we stopped at a place where the daily train came across and was on a big track. It's this heavy, big metal train. But when people heard the alarm about the wave, they took little children that would probably get tumbled in the water, and they lifted them up into the train, they put them in the windows, and people accepted them in and they set them down inside. But when the wave slammed into the train, it tumbled it like five times. And everybody in the train died. 1500 people.
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Tony Mantour
Wow.
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Sharon Eubank
You know, people are. They're touching my skin. They're saying, you know, can you help me? Help me. You're from America. Please help me. I didn't have anything in my pockets. I didn't have anything to give. The fact that we're building houses over the rise. It doesn't mean anything to them. But the guy who was driving me is a guy named Shanta. He's got a soccer ball. He starts kicking it around. Kids come around. He starts talking to the lady about her bread making and this lady about washing powder. And it just dawns on me. Shanta is more powerful in this situation. He doesn't have a fund, He. He doesn't have a degree, but he's here all the time. He knows these people. They trust him. He's the answer to the needs that they have in a lot of ways. And so that really got me thinking about what can I do and how can I help. Other people galvanize to work where they are. And the side effect is it helps our mental health. All of us feel a reduction of the stress when we're doing things that are meaningful in our own communities, especially when we do it for Strangers.
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Tony Mantour
That's perfect. You actually partially answered. My next question is how do you see this helping people's mental well being?
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Sharon Eubank
There's a lot of really great research coming out of the University of British Columbia and Harvard that says it was specifically about adolescence. But it says when you're 11 to 14, if you help somebody who's not a friend or a family member, somebody who's a stranger, there's something about that that says I'm going above and beyond my family responsibilities. And it gives them respect. They feel self respect by doing that. And so there's this research that connects. Doing something good for a stranger helps you develop your own sense of self and confidence. And if you're under stress, if you have suicidal ideations or other things, it's even more critical because it gives you value, that pushes against some of those feelings of worthlessness that people feel.
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Tony Mantour
Yes, that is so true. I had a person on my podcast several months ago. He was bipolar. He tried to commit suicide. Fortunate for everybody, he didn't. He tried. It just didn't work. Thank goodness. It was a very inspiring story, one that was very, very real. Because of the failure to commit suicide, it led him to start a foundation. Now he helps people all over the country with his foundation. Perfect example is after the hurricane hit in north and South Carolina, he was right out there helping everybody that needed help. So we can see that you're trying to help people. You've written this book with all kinds of stories that are inspirational. So where do you see this going? What's your vision on how this can help?
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Sharon Eubank
The back of the book, I give 50 prompts for people to just start engaging their community. I think people want to, but they don't know how to start. I'll preview a little app called Just Serve you type in your zip code, and up come all the volunteer opportunities. It's free. Anybody can use it. So it's just a way of engaging. Go visit your mayor. Go visit the school. Ask them, is there a student who needs some help? Do you need something from me as a community member, I care. I live right in this neighborhood. What can I do? And get a couple things that you feel excited about. And as I said earlier, if you feel that you're different because of anxiety or mental health issues or a diagnosis like autism, that's actually your superpower. That's actually where you can do the most good. And I have lots of examples about that.
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Tony Mantour
It's amazing you use that word, superpower. I have many that are autistic that have come on this podcast. That's how they describe themselves. They say that their autism is their superpower.
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Sharon Eubank
Well, they use that word superpower all the time.
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Tony Mantour
I mean, all the time. They say autism is their superpower. They say that because they actually do look at things differently than a neurotypical person.
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Sharon Eubank
That's right.
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Tony Mantour
Many approach the world in a completely different way. So with that said, what do you feel in your travels, not only here in the US but around the world, and how they can use this book that you've written to help others.
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Sharon Eubank
One of the things that gives me the most joy is to be able to look around in a community or setting and see who's on the fringe, who's not being included for whatever reason. They're a different tribe, they're a different faith, they have different politics, they're neuro atypical. But what's the reason? And then see if we can't open up and invite them to come in and be part of that. If I can create a situation where people who have been on the fringe come in and interact with each other, that's a success to me.
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Tony Mantour
Absolutely. When you can do something like that is truly a success for sure. Now, you mentioned this earlier. We're in a strange world. People have different opinions on everything, politics, whatever the subject might be. So can you think of an instance where things really didn't look all that good? Everybody seemed to have different opinions. They weren't on the same page, but then the light went on and they realized that they were here for the greater good. Anything like that come to mind for you?
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Sharon Eubank
I bet you there's thousands of examples. But the one that I'm thinking about is, you probably know how Rotary started. It was four guys in Chicago. They were different faiths, different professions, and they decided to just meet and talk and then do some kind of service together. And they rotated in each other's offices. So there was like a tailor. I can't remember what their professions were, but they rotated. That's how they call it. Rotary. It was just a couple years ago. The head of Rotary, now, his name is John Huko, he was giving a speech in Australia and he said he's talking about service. We need to wage peace as aggressively as nations wage war. And he's just saying that same thing for all of us. We're so different. We have different causes that we support, different politics. But if we can find something like service that bonds us and we agree on, we can be peacemakers and we can wage it as aggressively as Other people are waging war. That meant something to me.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, I definitely agree on that. I've had people that I've worked with, we've had different thoughts on different things, but we was looking at the common good. So because of that we were able to make it work.
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Sharon Eubank
What was the one thing?
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Tony Mantour
Well, it was in a situation of helping others. I think that's exactly what you're bringing up and putting out. There is by helping others, you put away all your differences and focus on what's most important. Now with this book you've written, you're looking to create that tsunami of hope, of goodwill. Have you seen that wave starting to grow where it is touching on people's lives not only here in the US but worldwide?
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Sharon Eubank
I met a woman from Nampa, Idaho and she was just telling me about when she was young. She was, she told me that suicide was just a multi generational scourge in her family and she was already feeling that when she was 11 years old. She was isolating, she was cutting and her family thought, what are we going to do to help Megan? They got on that app and they started finding service activities. And she said, every time I didn't want to go, I'm telling my mom, I'm not doing this, I'm not going. But she said once they went and her mom calmed her down and they went and did it, she said it was that feeling afterward that was almost like a drug high, that it felt so good of having conquered the anxiety and gone to do it. And she finally said, if I could help other people feel like they were worth something, then maybe I was worth something too. She said, I'm so glad I pushed through it because I wouldn't be here today if I hadn't done that otherwise. And I think with the rise of social media, whatever the issues are that create the levels of stress and anxiety in our current culture, if we can fight back against that and we can unlock the goodness in people than we should. I just interviewed the millionth user of that Just Serve app and guy in Oshawa, Canada. Pretty great that there's a million users that are just saying, I'm going to regularly commit to doing something. It helps me, helps my community and everybody benefits.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, there's nothing better than a win win scenario. So what's your plans? Where do you see this going? I always ask everyone for their five year plan because that's what mine was. So where do you see yourself five years from now?
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Sharon Eubank
In my professional life, you know, working with the app and Working with humanitarian projects and things. I'd like to see 10 million people regularly using that kind of service app. It exists in 17 countries, and we'll continue to expand it. More than that, I'd like to see people engage in with those 12 principles so that they help in the right way. And the very first right way is to ask the people that you're trying to help, what is it you really want? Don't let me assume what I should do for you. Tell me what it is that we could do together, and I'll organize whatever I'm going to try to do according to what you ask for. And as simple as that thing sounds, we violate that over and over again every day. We do, we assume, and we do things for people what they didn't really want.
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Tony Mantour
That totally makes sense. Now, you've got 92 stories we mentioned about the common threads. Can you give us a little insights on some of those things that are uncommon and unique to themselves yet because they're uncommon and they fit in with these 92 stories, even with the differences, they do blend together to create the common thread to your stories?
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Sharon Eubank
Well, it might be the creativity. One of the stories that I tell in the book is about a kid named Dennis Esterman. He's from Haiti, and he was going to school in Boca Raton, Florida, and his family had come as immigrants. He integrated pretty well and he became an athlete. And so he's a high school student. And he notices there's a lot of kids who sit alone or they don't go into the cafeteria and they just do something by themselves. And any of us who've been in a kind of a stratified lunchroom, you're going to remember how that feels. Dennis took a couple of his buddies from the team and a couple other people he knew. They formed a little club called We Dine Together. So all they do is the 45 minutes of school lunch. They walk around, and if somebody's sitting by themselves, they'll just sit down and talk to them. And these aren't the most popular kids in school, but they're pretty, you know, well accepted. And he said, I didn't realize what it meant for somebody in my little group to sit down next to somebody and just chat with them. Doesn't cost any money. It hardly took any time. But they started this club called We Dine Together. It's now all over the world. All kinds of high schools do this kind of thing. And like an example, it's completely low tech, really creative. But he took that application. And he said, I can do something just right here in my high school. So to me, that's a good example.
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Tony Mantour
That's a great example. If you talk with anyone that is going through mental illness, if you talk with anyone this autistic, most will tell you that the teen years through high school is the most challenging because they get bullied, because they're a little different from all the others. They don't fit in. Some will mask because they don't fit in, ultimately resulting in not fitting in because they're masking. So in your travels, I'm sure you've come across those that have the empathy to reach out and help those that need the help.
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Sharon Eubank
I'm going to give you two examples, and one of them is a guy named Eric Olson. He lived in Murrieta, California, and he so wanted to do some volunteer service, but he couldn't find anybody who would accept him because of his autism. Finally, his parents helped him connect with a. It's like a food pantry, and it was called the Bishop Storehouse. And he would go in there and his job was he'd put on a coat, he'd go into the walk in refrigerator, and he'd pull out all the dairy, all the milk, and he would stock it on the shelves. I've seen video of him. You know, he puts on the coat and he flips up the hood and he opens the doors, these automatic doors, like Moses, you know. But he was showing his little. His humor. And the people working with him in the pantry started to really enjoy him. He loved Legos, he loved Star wars, and he started to feel confident enough to bring that in. He was great with stocking the shelves because he was so detail oriented. As he was leaving one day, he kind of put his arm around one of those elderly women that were in the pantry with him, and he kind of gave her a side hug. And his mother, she just said, he's never given me a hug. I've never seen, you know, him do that. And so she recognized that he was developing and blossoming because of this connection. Everybody who came into that pantry wanted to talk to Eric. He was the connector among everybody, which was just unexpected for somebody who had autism. He brought a great richness to that because of who he was, and then it responded. So he grew and other people grew, and I think that turned out to be a good example.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that's a great example. Unfortunately, autism has this stigma. I don't like the word, so I use perception. So basically, a lot of people have this perception of those that are autistic, thinking they can't do anything, they can't fit in, and their perception is not reality. Reality is they can do many great things and do many great things. Now, what about the mental health side? Those with adhd, anxiety, bipolar, schizophrenia, Anything that falls under that mental health umbrella? Have you seen those that have accomplished great things like the one that you just mentioned that was autistic?
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Sharon Eubank
You know, in Florence, Italy, there's a whole bunch of people who have come from. They're seeking asylum. So they come from Africa or the Middle East. They've been on as a torturous journey. It's been very dangerous. They've gotten there and now they've applied for their asylum and they have to wait. They can't work, they can't do anything while their political asylum application is processed. There was just a lot of stress going on in those places where they were waiting. There was anxiety and tension and fights were breaking out and families were upset. So the local Catholic bishop, who is the head of Caritas in Florence, he said, look, people need something to do. He said, let's form a football league and let's have these guys come and do some sport with us. Everyone's like, that's a terrible idea. They're going to fight with each other. They don't trust each other. It's not going to work. But they got them uniforms and they started practicing on the football pitch, and they started recognizing, okay, you're from Algeria and I'm from Pakistan, but you have serious football skills. I can see what you're doing. And they started to bond as a team. And then when they put them into the regular rotation with the Italian clubs, they weren't just migrants, they weren't asylum seekers, they were football. And they had serious skills. And so it was really fun for them to be able to process some of the anxiety they felt through their journey and what had happened to them them by something constructive like sports, where they learned to trust each other as a team, and they had a great time doing some other things. And I think in a lot of ways, Nelson Mandela was very good at using sport as a unifier for people to take down the anxiety in his own country. And when he became a rugby fan against all the stereotypes of black leaders in his country and cheered for the team of his white oppressors, I think there's something very healthy in that for people, and I think those are good examples from sports.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, I love sports. Sometimes it can definitely bring people together, and that's a Perfect example of it. Now, what about something that you thought would never work?
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In the back of your mind, you said, this will never work. Somehow, after it all came together and it worked in a way that no one thought possible.
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Sharon Eubank
When ISIS took over the main city of Mosul in Iraq, you know, it's the second largest city in Iraq. It's a very modern city, and it's full of professional people. When they pulled out, after they were forced out, they smashed all the fixtures and things. They cut all the wires. They didn't want to leave infrastructure as part of their thing. And so as the school started to open again, there's absolutely everything's been destroyed. The plumbing doesn't work, the electricity doesn't work. None of it worked. We did a little project with a Christian church up in Mosul, and that Christian leader was trying to get kids into school again. That was one of the ways people could come. We said to them, we really want their parents to be involved in that. They've been through this horrific experience. Is there something they can do? And they said, well, I guess they could try and build the desk. These aren't carpenters. These are dentists. They're accountants. You know, it's just not going to work. We said, let's try. And then I regretted that afterwards because I thought, if it doesn't work out, it's going to be so bad. But we bought the supplies. You know, we sent some technicians in there to teach them and help them, and they were awful. The desks were uneven. There were splinters. You know, it just wasn't working out. But they kept persisting, and in the end, you know, they created, I don't know, 200, 300 of these bent metal desks with a varnished wooden top in these chairs to match. As painful as it was to get through that with unskilled people, and so many times I thought, why are we doing this? Why did we choose to do this? When their kids sat on the chairs and we went to take a photo of the kids in the new school and their parents, their mothers and fathers were standing behind them, beaming with the pride of having done something to help their kids education, it wasn't a handout. It wasn't even what they were good at. But they all participated and kind of fought through the difficulty of it. And they were so proud. It did so much to feel kind of what they had gone through. And so I remind myself of that story. I don't want to go back and pull out of things too soon. If you can get to that feeling that those parents had of, we did this, we've been through something horrific. We felt we let our kids down, and now we've done something that helped the other way.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that's a great story. Now, what do you feel that you need to tell the listener about what you're doing about your book that you think they need to hear so they can get a better understanding of what it is that you're trying to accomplish?
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Sharon Eubank
I titled the book Doing Small Things with Great Love. As I said earlier, it comes from a Mother Teresa quote. And if you're going to talk about service and humanitarian work, Mother Teresa is always going to come up. The great thing about Mother Teresa and anybody else like her is she didn't ever have money and she didn't ever go anywhere except India. And she helped people in their worst moments because she was there. And she couldn't even really change the fact that this person was dying, but she could hold their hand while they were doing it. So there's some things that you can't fix, but you can soften. There are other things that if we band together with other people in our community, we absolutely can change and fix. We all belong to these networks. Ptsa, hoa, Town Council. I don't know that there's. Don't want to say this out loud, but my HOA can be one of the most contentious organizations that I've ever been involved with. You know, we're all next door neighbors, we all live by each other. But if we can learn to function in those settings and find the skills of people that we thought were different because of a disability or a cultural thing or some other choice, if we can learn to bond over things, even if it's as simple as service, that makes a successful life and it helps our mental health.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that's so true. Now, where do they find your book?
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Sharon Eubank
It's out on Amazon. You can order it from Shadow Mountain Publishing. It's anywhere books are sold.
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Tony Mantour
Okay, now, how do they contact you?
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Sharon Eubank
Right there on my Instagram. It's right there. I'll put it in the notes for the podcast.
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Tony Mantour
Great. So you're on all the social media platforms, correct? Correct.
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Sharon Eubank
I'm all everywhere.
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Tony Mantour
That's good for everyone to know. Now, we talked about things that we didn't think would go well. That did go well. Have you had anything that you thought was going to go really good and then all of a sudden all the dominoes just fell in place and it just astounded you how well it went?
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Sharon Eubank
For sure. That's true. I'm trying to think if I have an example about that.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, I'm looking for something that you didn't think big enough. You thought it was going to be good, but it just went huge. So good.
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Sharon Eubank
There's so many examples that I could choose from, but one of them is during the pandemic. I saw a picture in the New York Times where because kids weren't in school, they weren't drinking school milk. You know, all that milk goes to school. You have to store milk somewhere, has to be refrigerated and they didn't know what to do with it. So because of the glut, they were just dumping it in farm fields. They were just using it as fertilizer, just dumping it. And that just looked like the 1930s to me. I was just so sad to see that. So we called up the Milk association and said, what's the situation? And could we do anything? Not really thinking that anything would come out of this. This. As a result, our organization was able to buy some of that milk. We thought, what do we do with it? Because it's fresh milk, you have to be careful. So we contacted a cheese making organization. They make Swiss cheese up in a northern state. And we said, you know, this is our situation. Would you be interested in helping us process it into Swiss cheese? And I was surprised at how interested they were in doing something that was for a humanitarian cause. So they took all of that milk that we got off the market and they turned it into Swiss cheese and then they donated it back. It was us that we could send out to food banks during that time when supply chains were breaking and different things like that. So a disaster that was in the New York Times, you know, about the milk because of the decisions that different people made. The milk association, the Gossner cheese that made the cheese, and then the food banks, it all lined up. That was a good thing out of something that was difficult.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that's an awesome story and I'm glad it worked out that way. What do you tell people? They're trying to do something good. They're working really diligently on it, working every day. It's just not going the way they hoped it would, even though it is progressing.
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How do you get it across to them that they don't realize it, but they're doing something really good every day just by trying. So how do you get that point across to them to give them hope because of what they're trying to do? Even though they may be struggling at.
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Sharon Eubank
Times, just before the October 7th attack in Israel. I was in there in July. And as part of my visit I crossed over to Bethlehem from Jerusalem. There was a site there that I wanted to see. And in 12 different locations around the world, this Catholic organization has set up a place where an order of nuns prays for peace and relief 24 7. So they just rotate through there. There's was one of them at a place called the Milk Grotto. And I wanted to see that, that very quietly and reverently you can walk past the place where she was kneeling and praying. And the people behind me were sort of what good is this? You know, all the situation that's happened between Palestinians and Israelis and all around the world and you know you've got a nun that's just praying 247 for a woman of faith like me. There's that scripture in James that says the fervent prayer of a man or a woman affects much. And I have to believe in that when I'm doing the best I can. And it's slow and it looks like it's going backwards and it doesn't work. But I can draw on my faith to ask a power greater than me, will you please bless this? Will you please open doors? I know it may not be in the way that I'm thinking of, but I believe that you help good hearted people who are trying to do what's the best and trying to help other people in the same spirit that that nun was praying. I want to draw on the powers that I believe in to help this move forward bigger than my power. And I've seen that happen over and over again, mostly in ways that I never expected. But with a little hindsight, you look back and think, okay, I would say draw on the power of your faith. Don't get discouraged that you've got this all on your own shoulders. God who cares for every one of us will help it move forward.
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Tony Mantour
Yeah, that's a great way to look at it. Now, one last time, the name of the book and where they can find it.
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Sharon Eubank
The name of the book is called Doing Small Things with Great Love. My name is Sharon Eubank. You can order it on Amazon or through Shadow Mountain Publishing and you can find me on Instagram at Sharon Eubank underscore.
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Tony Mantour
Well, this has been great, great information, great conversation. I really appreciate you taking the time to join us today day.
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Sharon Eubank
I would only say that I'm so grateful to you, Tony, for expanding the topic of the podcast of opening up this forum for people who want to discuss these things and bringing real concrete ideas to people who listen to the podcast every day. I've enjoyed the podcast and it was a privilege for me to be on it. Thank you very much.
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Tony Mantour
Oh, it's been my pleasure. Thanks again.
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