
JOIN OUR COMMUNITY - 🌍 Patron - https://pearlmania500.net In this episode the Pearlmans address Katy Perry's space mission, the MAGA Mormon's who owned the libs by burning 100 million in Sundance Film Festival revenue and how cutting programs...
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Host 1
If you think it's bad now, you aren't a politician in Utah who's been trying to use culture war garbage to stay in power and make sure that his state loses $100 million. Also, you're not a governor whose last name is Cox.
Host 2
Every day is a good day when your last name's not Cox.
Host 1
Every day is a good name when your last name isn't Cox. And then you chase Sundance out and. And then Katy Perry shows up with.
Host 2
A bunch of space.
Host 1
Okay. Okay. We're gonna cover a lot on this episode, and sometimes I feel like I go a little bit too hard.
Host 2
No, you could go harder.
Host 1
I could go harder. This is called Too many Tabs. Too many tabs. Remember to smile.
Host 2
Do you understand the Katy Perry news that's happening right now?
Host 1
Katy Perry. I know. She's doing another album.
Host 2
She's planning on going to space with billionaire's wife.
Host 1
What?
Host 2
Yes. She's going to go on a blue origin trip. That's the private space company that's owned by Bezos.
Host 1
Okay.
Host 2
She's going up with his wife.
Host 1
Oh, that second wife?
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Oh, the one with the big boobs.
Host 2
Yeah. The one that dresses very straight.
Host 1
She had her boobs out at the inauguration.
Host 2
I know. She dresses very scandalous. Like, like inappropriate times.
Host 1
There's a shot of Mark looking. Yeah, Mark Zuckerberg was up there. Because it's a crazy shot. Because it's like, there's the line at the inauguration, right? Yeah, because it was like Zuckerberg, Bezos, the Google guy, the TikTok guy, Elon Bezos's new wife's boobs.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And I was just like, wow, are there as tariffs on those things? Because they're plastic.
Host 2
Whoa. But also, Gayle King, Oprah's bestie, she.
Host 1
Going on the same ride.
Host 2
On the same ride with them.
Host 1
Why?
Host 2
I know. It's such a weird group of people.
Host 1
Okay.
Host 2
But. Yeah. So this.
Host 1
Listen, this rocket has the chance to Change the world in Minecraft. In Minecraft.
Host 2
No, I. I'm just saying I thought the millionaires and billionaires in tubes went underwater.
Host 1
No, they go up too.
Host 2
They go up too.
Host 1
They go up. Listen. Much like the stock market, it goes up, but mostly they've been going down.
Host 2
Mostly going down.
Host 1
Mostly, though, sometimes up, sometimes up, sometimes up.
Host 2
But no. So Katy Perry keeps, like, doing all this press about it and she. But like, she's. The thing about Katy Perry is. Hold on, let me sit there. Okay, Let me.
Host 1
You were seated the whole time.
Host 2
I know. I'm like getting into.
Host 1
You're leaning back, you're relaxing.
Host 2
I got opinions about Katy Perry.
Host 1
Get on your shit. Go ahead.
Host 2
Number one, she is a pop princess of our. Our generation. Right?
Host 1
Yeah, but a recession pop princess.
Host 2
Yeah. Not this time around, though.
Host 1
But no, not this time.
Host 2
So the thing is, is, like, I don't think Katy Perry can view herself through the eyes of the public. Like, she doesn't understand how we consume her. What eyes? Visually. In her ears with her music and the things that she says. Like, she's just so out of touch.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And it's crazy because, like, a lot of pop stars can be out of touch and kooky and you're like, yeah, it's fine.
Host 1
Like Gaga. Yeah, Gaga's out of.
Host 2
She's out of touch. Yeah, Lady Gaga. Of course she's out of touch.
Host 1
No, I know, but you're like, oh.
Host 2
It'S okay because she's Lady Gaga.
Host 1
Yeah. But yet the art you get from it is better.
Host 2
And you have. When she speaks, sometimes you're like at the heart, you can tell she has. She's. Good intentions. Good intentions.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
But with. With Katy Perry, you don't. It's like there's this cringe factor that. And I don't even like saying the word cringe, but, like, she's just has bad vibes and she comes off as like just so out of touch in the weirdest ways.
Host 1
I think it's because that nun cursed her with like the. It was like the thinner curse almost.
Host 2
Yes.
Host 1
Whereas that nun died. Yelled, curse you, Katy Perry, for stealing our land.
Host 2
Did the nun die or was she murdered slowly by Katy Perry? Hit the ledgerly button.
Host 1
Allegedly. I'm sorry, my button's behind my laptop.
Host 2
Yeah, you got to pull that button.
Host 1
Back on, Mike, baby, you're on your. This time I'll hit these buttons.
Host 2
So Katy Perry's been doing all this press about this trip she's taken, which.
Host 1
Is crazy because I haven't seen any of it.
Host 2
I know.
Host 1
Where's she doing this press?
Host 2
I don't know. I see it on my feet all the time.
Host 1
I mean.
Host 2
I mean, but she's talking about the dumbest. She's not talking about exploring the universe or what it means for a man to like. Or her to go to space and all this. Like, none of that. She's like, I can't wait to get my hair and makeup done because I'm going to look so glamorous in space.
Host 1
Really? That's what she says.
Host 2
She's saying. She's talking about the hair and make, I think.
Host 1
No, but see, this is like last week when I was screaming about Elon and the fake Sci Fi shit. Because I felt the same way. I think I've said this on old Pod before. I feel the same way about Jeff Bezos. When it comes to the rocket stuff is like, there was a while there, especially in the 90s and the early 2000s with, like, the dot com boom and bust cycle and all this different stuff, as these dudes went from, you know, millionaires to multi millionaires to billionaires, there's been, like, a shift of, like, they've gotten more caveman y. This is more my toy. Because, like, with Bezos, it's like just trying to show off, like, yeah, I got so much money, I can send people to space. Look at this.
Host 2
He's sending his wife.
Host 1
Yeah. No, but I'm saying, like, he, like crazy, but he, like, his laugh is stupid, all this shit. But if you go back and you listen to, like, the statements they were making back when, like, they could. Back when they were still small enough to fail, back when they could still fuck up hard enough to become one of us again.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Because, like, Jeff Bezos is never. There is no world.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
In West. Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk. Unfortunately, none of these people can ever fuck up bad enough to have to take the bus.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
No, it's never gonna happen. Like, I know that there's times where we're all, like, really happy when Elon's, you know, stock was going down or.
Host 2
Like when he spent a bunch of money trying to buy that election over.
Host 1
The weekend and lost. It's like, yeah, okay, But I mean, he's still. He's still worth more money than we're ever gonna know.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Then we could ever spend that he can ever spend. And all these guys are like that. And it's so. But, like, once they get to that level, there becomes this, like, level of, like, delusion. No, it's not just delusion, it just becomes like lizard brain, caveman. I'm just like me new wife, big boob. I like rocket take up. Haha, look, I have Captain Kirk. I took Captain Kirk on rocket. Like, that's Bezos now. Jeff Bezos used to be like, oh. And we made sure that the logistics are working here and we worked on spreadsheets and we want to make sure that someday the man could go see the stars. Like, this is how he used to talk. And now he's like, isn't that great? I own Washington Post only op ed about free market. Now, like that's a real thing he did. He came in, he said that the op EDS for the Washington Post are only going to be pro free market and pro personal choice.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Which reads, I want to be able to do whatever the fuck I want. And I'm not gonna pay anyone to be in my newspaper that's gonna say anything against me.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And that's what that means.
Host 2
That's why he bought a newspaper.
Host 1
Yeah, I know, but he bought it a decade ago when everybody said he's gonna do this. And everyone's like, I don't know, he's different. This breed of billionaires, a little bit different.
Host 2
They're worse.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Back when we had barons, oil barons, they were more thoughtful.
Host 1
Well, yeah, because I keep watching that shit about trains. I know, we keep watching, I keep watching train. Listen, okay.
Host 2
We watch a lot of train videos, all right?
Host 1
Did I go to ca, did we go to New York and watch Cabaret? Yes. Did we talk about that on the warm up? Yes, absolutely. But I've been watching positive train content too.
Host 2
Okay.
Host 1
That if you don't understand what the musical cabaret is about, and you think it's about Chicago, you like just like the musical Chicago and Flappers is going to be a confusing joke for you.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
That's why you got to join the Patreon watching videos.
Host 2
Because I always want to watch videos about Banff.
Host 1
Yeah. The Banff in Canada. But I've also just been like watching. Listen, there's been so many planes that have fallen out of the sky.
Host 2
Yes.
Host 1
That I've been looking more and more about, like, if I'm going to go someplace, maybe I'll look at the train.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Because also I think track doing.
Host 2
How you doing, girl?
Host 1
Yeah. What's up? Amtrak, yo. You need Amtrak. How them sponsorships looking? You trying to get somebody to talk you up right now? Because listen, I've been watching, I've been watching content creators taking Amtrak across the United States. I'm telling you, they are. They do not know how to hide your flaws.
Host 2
Okay, we could hide them.
Host 1
We could hide them flaws and make them look nice because they. There was one where they were, like, talking about going from New York to Chicago and how long it took. Yeah, right. They made a big deal about it, and they were on the sleeper car and all these different things. It was a little tight. The thing people got to remember is like, yeah, okay, you can get from Philly International to O'Hare in three hours. Yeah, okay, but how long's your drive to the airport? How long is that TSA line? Because it's gonna get longer. They're just constantly getting longer, and now they want to privatize that. Okay, how long then once you get to the TSA that. You gotta wait there? How long was your delay? Oh, you landed. How long to get your bags? How long to get the shuttle to get in the shuttle to get to the rental car? How long to wait for the. How long to get to the shuttle at some of these places? How long to get in the shuttle to ride all the way out to where they allow Ubers to pick up? Unless you use an Uber black XL at lax? That made me so fucking mad.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
I was furious. I landed when I was doing all that shit last summer. I was touring the country, doing stand up. I got to lax, I was like, okay, how do I get a lift? Like, you got to get on a bus. I was like, I got a bus.
Host 2
Yep.
Host 1
To get to the lifts. And like, unless you use an Uber black xl, if you're rich, you can just pull right up right here.
Host 2
Classic.
Host 1
And then they're like. And if you yell at an airport, we'll arrest you as a guy. Fair enough.
Host 2
Yeah. No yelling at airport.
Host 1
No yelling at airports. But all those things, once you add up all of that time, and then compare that to getting on. And also, the trains usually drop you downtown because back in the day when rich people.
Host 2
Yep.
Host 1
Were taking the train, they wanted the train to drop them off where all the fucking businesses and hotels were.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Where are all of our businesses and hotels? Are they by the airport? No. You know what's by the airport? The saddest strip club you've ever seen in your entire life. And two Hiltons, but they still got.
Host 2
A Ruby Tuesdays that hasn't gone out.
Host 1
Of business for some fucking reason.
Host 2
They got that Ruby Tuesday salad buffet that calls itself.
Host 1
That calls itself the air Ruby Tuesdays.
Host 2
Oh, my God.
Host 1
And is it in the airport with cheddar Is it in the airport? Absolutely not. It is 2.7 miles away from the airport, but it is still another shuttle bus. Another. We're by the airport. Shoney's.
Host 2
Yeah. Fubies.
Host 1
I'm just saying, you get on. Let me tell you what I like about the train. As a parent, you know what I like about the train? It is long. I like that it's long. I like that it takes time. I like that something part of the train is looking outside, looking out a window.
Host 2
Yep.
Host 1
Oh, when you're a plane, what do you do when you look out. Oh, look at the window. That's too bright. Close it.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
I'll be on a plane on a beautiful day. Window open. Furious.
Host 2
Yep. Furious.
Host 1
It's too bright. Just mad. This 90%. Hold on. 90% of me on a plane is just trying to go to sleep.
Host 2
I know.
Host 1
So I don't think about the fact that I'm in the sky.
Host 2
Mm.
Host 1
Being went with an engine that some human being has been operating.
Host 2
Yeah. And it did not have any oversight. We're gonna get you some of that sweet lorazepam for the next time you fly.
Host 1
Give me some lorazipam.
Host 2
No, what. What you're saying is that the wealthy used to build beautiful hotels and stuff so that destination destinations. The Rockefellers, Carnegie, they used to build.
Host 1
Well. Because they had the trains and they were like, we need people to have another reason to go on the trains. When we were looking at Canada specifically. Specifically Canadian Rail.
Host 2
Not to run away. It was actually just a vacation.
Host 1
It was just a vacation because there's some beautiful places up there the Canadian Rail had. And they still actually own it now through, like, Fairmont hotels and others. They had these giant chalets.
Host 2
Beautiful.
Host 1
And these beautiful bamf B, A, N.
Host 2
F, F. It's incredible.
Host 1
All right. It's like the Chateau Marmont or some.
Host 2
No, it's way better than that.
Host 1
No, not Chateau Memory. It was Chateau something. But anyway, it doesn't matter. These beautiful fucking hotels. And we're looking at them, and they look. They look like the hotel from the Shining. Yes. It's like those level hotels.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Where this is where, like, rich people would, like, you and, like, you'd have to be that rich back in the day.
Host 2
No.
Host 1
To, like, go to these places. And now it's like. Everything is like. It's actually a double tree, but it's part of the Hilton Network. I'm like, fuck, get out of here. Yeah. We used to have balconies, but we closed them for safety. What's your Amenities look like.
Host 2
Well, listen, if you don't have amenities, I'm not going.
Host 1
Yeah. I mean, we went up to New York. We did. We went up to New York. We saw play, we talked about it a lot more. We call. You saw Cabaret.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
For our anniversary slash birthday stuff. It was a good time. The last day of the good economy.
Host 2
We didn't have any amenities.
Host 1
There was no amenities in the place.
Host 2
I didn't really care about in the Minis because I.
Host 1
No, I know, but I'm saying it's like when you go wrecked on food up there. When you go gluten. You went gluten free.
Host 2
I went, listen, there is.
Host 1
If any. Actually, we went gluten paid. We have the way I fucking. Not the way I look at that bill.
Host 2
It was not free.
Host 1
But anyway, I'm saying though, it's like some of these places, I've been watching these train people, these travel people.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Also, I don't know if you know this America, when it comes to trains, the rest of the world's running a train on us. I want you to know that.
Host 2
Yeah. Right now they have beautiful fast trains.
Host 1
Did you know they got first class lobbies in other train stations? I've been to Joseph Robinette Biden train station in Wilmington, Delaware. It does not have a first class lobby.
Host 2
No.
Host 1
It has a vestigial shoeshine station. It does. And it's got a bathroom you don't want to poop in.
Host 2
No.
Host 1
And then it has benches. That's it. In America, our train stations are glorified bus depots and our bus depots are the side of the road now. We don't even have bus depot.
Host 2
We used to have bus depot.
Host 1
We used to have. But we used to be a proper country.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And what happened?
Host 2
Our billionaires, Ford decided to try to kill all the infrastructure that wasn't about cars.
Host 1
Yeah. And GM came into it and then.
Host 2
All auto dealers and automakers really started funding all the Republican Party.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Very thing. So. Yeah. Like the times. Anyway, Katy Perry is going to space is where this.
Host 1
That's right. You know what this is reverse. This is reverse apple cider vinegar.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
We started at Katy Perry and by the end we're like. Used car dealerships are the ones who are funding all the worst MAGA candidates. Yeah, that's true. By the way. If we got rid of. If we had direct sales for cars in this country and we got rid of MLMs, you would be shocked of how destroyed the Republican Party would be.
Host 2
They need the MLMs.
Host 1
They. Oh, my God, you know, who needs the MLMs, Utah. Exactly.
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Host 1
Just old millennials living through our. How many was this? Ninth.
Host 2
I don't know.
Host 1
Ninth Financial. Me. I'm keeping.
Host 2
No, I'm not.
Host 1
I think that's. You know, guys, what's nice about this one versus 2008 was that this time when I watched the stock market crash, my boss didn't immediately call me into his office and fire me.
Host 2
Oh, that's nice.
Host 1
This time I was sitting here at home.
Host 2
Then the 2008 crash, I was working at a bowling alley.
Host 1
Hmm.
Host 2
So, you know.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Ebb and flow of life, you know.
Host 1
What? Bowling alley. Recession proof. Except for all those bowling alleys that went under.
Host 2
Yeah, the one I worked at was apparently recession proof.
Host 1
Yeah, the one you worked at.
Host 2
You know what it was? Short skirts and boobies.
Host 1
That's.
Host 2
Guys, I just said this last episode.
Host 1
Okay, okay. No, but listen. But here's the problem, though. It's not as recession proof now because they got the AI girlfriends.
Host 2
Oh, not the AI girlfriends. Replacing the. The short skirts.
Host 1
Well, I'm just saying. Why would I go bowling? All right. Why would. Okay, I've. I've. I've. If I have Nintendo Wii at home. Okay.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And I have an AI girlfriend on my phone.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Okay. Why leave?
Host 2
Isn't this that movie? There's like, a movie like her? Yeah.
Host 1
He doesn't go wee bowling with her, though. It's just Scarlett johansson talking on FaceTime.
Host 2
That sounds really weird.
Host 1
Yeah, I know, but it was made like five or 10 years before the AI people. But there's people who are like, have. They're like, oh, I have an AI girlfriend. Ask me about her. No.
Host 2
No. Oh, God, no.
Host 1
No.
Host 2
That's the most deeply uncomfortable conversation I've ever thought to have with a stranger.
Host 1
It's just a stranger. There's a few of them.
Host 2
There's like, if I was in an elevator and a man said, I have an AI girlfriend asked Me about it. I would pull out my knife for the rest of the elevator ride, just holding it up.
Host 1
You be up. I would have it out. I mean, I'd.
Host 2
No, it would be in my hand. Just like. What did you just say to me?
Host 1
How would you hold it? Would you hold it blade down so you could do a slash cut? Or would you hold the blade up.
Host 2
Blade down so that you can hit in the downward ax motion and you don't worry about cutting?
Host 1
I think upward cut. Yeah, I think upward cut. I would, but I would just, like. Just to be real, I would hold it, point it out. So if he comes. See, that's like sticking with a pin.
Host 2
That's not. That's not.
Host 1
Old days in wrestling. Back in the day, old ladies would take their hat pins and they would stick the wrestlers they don't like.
Host 2
Not from wrestling. That's from real life. Women used to use hat pins to stab people.
Host 1
I know, but I'm saying. But they used to also. I know about it through pro wrestling because all of these old pro wrestlers would talk about when they knew they were being a good heel, when they were a good bad guy, they would be walking down the entrance ramp. Right?
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And. And these old ladies. Oh, I don't like him. I don't like that. Razor Ramon. And they would pull their hat pin out.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Because also they could have hat pins.
Host 2
Absolutely.
Host 1
Because there wasn't security.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
They just let people in.
Host 2
Well, you can.
Host 1
And they would just walk up, and it wasn't even. They didn't have guardrails. They just had a rope. And they would just walk into the rope. And as you come by. Hey, come here. Oh, I like you, Sonny Jim. Stab.
Host 2
Yeah, Stab.
Host 1
Stamp, Stamp, Stamp. Stab.
Host 2
Well, now you can 3D print a hat pin. That way you can get through security. Don't listen to me.
Host 1
Oh, don't. Hey, whoa, whoa.
Host 2
Joke. This is a comedy podcast.
Host 1
Comedy history podcast. Sometimes we're going to get back to the history on that. But no, but we. You know, there's just so much. There's just so much going on.
Host 2
What?
Host 1
You know, there's been a lot of changes.
Host 2
Like what?
Host 1
Well, I mean, we've had some changes to our podcast, but the other day you were trying to tell me something about Sundance. There were changes to Sundance. Oh, yes.
Host 2
Sundance left Utah. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Host 1
No.
Host 2
Okay, so Sundance, the film festival.
Host 1
The film festival Sundance, which takes place in Utah.
Host 2
It has for 40 years.
Host 1
I always thought it was in Colorado. No, but it's going To Aspen, Colorado.
Host 2
No, Sundance is Utah. And here's what happened. So they've been there for a long time. It's been like, their whole personality. Sundance is Utah. Right. And like I said, 40 years. Well, the governor. Right. It was. The governor made a tweet. Of course, he was on the Twitter, and he was.
Host 1
We gotta take. We gotta take Twitter away from politicians.
Host 2
And he was like, oh, Sundance promotes alternative lifestyles.
Host 1
Oh, we're doing. We're going back to that term.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Alternative lifestyle.
Host 2
It's like, oh, Sundance doesn't fit in Utah anymore. And this is because, I guess the people that run Sundance came out against the new. They passed legislation that said that you can't fly the LGBTQ flag anymore at schools or government buildings across the state. And so the Sundance people were like, hey, we really. This does not align with our values.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Like, not cool.
Host 1
And I just think of, like, how many, like, gay movies, like, just all these other different things of, like, these movies. Like, these extremely liberal movies.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
So I'm shocked. This in Utah, because I always see these movies. I'm like. And it was. It won this award at the Sundance Film Festival, and like, well, what is it called? It's like, my. My dick suck. Whoa. What? Whoa.
Host 2
That's gonna have to get bleeped. Well, so then all this stuff is happening. Everybody's talking about how Sundance might leave if this type of legislation starts passing.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Ba, ba, ba, ba. And then, so Sundance is, like, openly talking about this, but also they've been saying, like, it's not because of politics. It's definitely not because of politics.
Host 1
Not because of politics.
Host 2
We're definitely just looking at other locations for other reasons.
Host 1
Right.
Host 2
But the guy, Senator Dan McKay, he posted on Twitter and he wrote. I'm gonna read this as a quote. He said, by Felicia. This is an old white guy from Utah, by the way, by Felicia. Sundance promotes porn. Sundance promotes alternative lifestyles. Sundance promotes anti IDS themes. Sundance does not fit in Utah anymore.
Host 1
The is ids.
Host 2
That's the church, right? Lds.
Host 1
Oh, lds.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Okay, gotcha.
Host 2
I read it wrong. So, yeah, it's like these. He went out on Twitter and was like, he.
Host 1
So some guy. Some. As he a senator.
Host 2
Is he state senator?
Host 1
Is he a state senator or is he a regular senator? I know they got Mike Lee out there.
Host 2
The other guy is Cox. I thought something.
Host 1
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They have. They have Mike Lee because he. He's. His actual Twitter handle is based Mike Lee.
Host 2
Based Mike Lee.
Host 1
Yeah, that's because that's what I love from a senator. I'm based. That's the one who recently said we need to be coal rolling more because we need to get the greenhouse gases up to make Greenland green again.
Host 2
That's smart.
Host 1
Even though Greenland's never been green.
Host 2
Never. His name? Spencer Cox. I was right. It's a Cox guy. Spen the. Spencer Cox is the governor of Utah.
Host 1
Yeah, he's the governor.
Host 2
Yeah. Yeah. So there was a senator and then the governor also.
Host 1
What's the senator's name again?
Host 2
Oh, hold on. It's Daniel McKay. MCC. A Y.
Host 1
Let me say so. All right, so he is. Okay. He is the Utah. He's their actual federal center. I'm just asking because, like, sometimes it's not you. I see. I see senator get thrown around a lot.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And sometimes it's like. Yeah, but he's a state senator. Senator. Because like a lot of legislation, legislators in the United States, they have bicameral houses. That means they have two houses. They have a. They have a state representative and they have a state senator. And I'm not poo pooing a state senator. Depending on where you are, they get paid a pretty penny and they might actually have some outside influence. However, there's a federal senator. And then you got state senators. Like I think about here in Pennsylvania, right. We have two bag of shit senators. We have Fetterman fucking boo boo boo John Fetterman. And then we also have that other. With Dave McCormick.
Host 2
Doesn't even go here.
Host 1
Doesn't even go here.
Host 2
He's not even a fucking resident.
Host 1
He lives in Connecticut anyway. But they. They're just like bags of shit. But they're one of the hundred.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
That are important. So when you have a guy like Cory Booker who stands up, it's like, I'm gonna talk for a while. Like, that's who he's holding up.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
With all this yapping. Okay. When I get a state senator, I don't know what you do. And honestly, state senators and state reps, that's where you get the crazy. Yeah, that's where they test all the crazy stuff. Because they got like 300 of these running around every state capitol and they're all tweeting and they're all saying. And the thing is, is like their constituency, the actual amount of people that are supposed to hold them in check is very small.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
It's not like they have. They're going to face a hundred, you know, half million people when they go to go to Congress. They're facing like 25,000.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And out of them, 6,000 vote and show up. Yeah, exactly. And out of those 6,000 that vote. Well, it was actually an off year. It was an off year. Special election, blah, blah, blah. Check, check, check, check, check down the market. Like, this guy got the job with 800 votes. It was 800. People decided. This guy. One.
Host 2
Those people.
Host 1
One large public high school senior class.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Is what decided that this man's tweets matter all of a sudden.
Host 2
So listen, Sundance decides they're leaving Utah.
Host 1
Okay.
Host 2
And the one thing I want to pull up is the numbers, because I guess what all these Republican legislatures all. Because a lot of people came out against Sundance, right. Because they're like, we don't want to fund the. These d. These dei liberal politics.
Host 1
DEI movies are coming in here.
Host 2
So there is a certain amount of money that gets invested by the state to. That gets put towards running Sundance, right?
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
They have to put it because.
Host 1
Because of. They need extra police. They need to make sure the infrastructure is. They want to. There's probably some grants for some of the local theaters. There's probably grants for restaurants. There's probably tax incentives because people are coming in. You have to think about all the landlords and all the rentals that are happening. They got the Airbnb. But also it's generating a lot of money.
Host 2
Yeah, exactly.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
So there was this fight over whether or not they were going to pass. It was for a couple. I think a couple million, maybe $3 million to fund this. And so they're like, we don't want this to fund this lifestyle. And these lib values, basically, is what they're saying online all the time. And they're all screaming in the wind about it. Right. So Sundance is like, okay, fine. Again, Sundance. Hold on. Is like, not political. We're just looking at our options. Right. They're playing it really chill now. I did want to state this information. Last year, the Festival itself generated $132 million for the state of Utah, more than 1,700 jobs and nearly 70 million in Utah wages and about 14 million in state and local tax revenue. So this investment is not that big compared to how much they get back.
Host 1
Yeah. So how much was. How much was the investment?
Host 2
I feel like it was three mil. I need to check. Or it might be 30. It's not something I wrote down in my little notes here.
Host 1
Okay.
Host 2
I just knew that they were arguing.
Host 1
Over, but they're getting multiples back when it comes to both jobs and taxes and all those different things.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
But also, you have to think that's also prestige for that town. It's in Utah. Right.
Host 2
I think it's in Salt Lake City.
Host 1
Is it in Salt Lake?
Host 2
I think it might be. I don't know.
Host 1
We gotta find that out. I feel like. Let's see. Let's see. Where is.
Host 2
Yeah. As part of the bid to keep Sundance in Utah, much of the festival would have been moved to Salt Lake City while keeping a smaller number in events in Park City. So I guess it was originally in Park City.
Host 1
Oh, here we go. I'm seeing it now. They got Park City. They got the Sundance Mountain Resort.
Host 2
Yep.
Host 1
There's a bunch of different stuff here. So. Yeah, I mean, like, if you have. And it's moved to Park City, I guess they go back and forth on this a couple of times.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Of where it's been moved around. So, I mean, on the Wikipedia, it says location is Park City, Utah.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
But, like, I mean, I know that this is like a skiing location and a bunch of other stuff. I'm sure they have other things to go. But, like, this is also another one of those side things. Yeah. Just east of Salt Lake City.
Host 2
Yeah. So after the announcement that they were going to leave, I think the announcement came right after the announcement that they, the state had been the gay pride flag being flown. They, the Sundance people, announced that they were going to be moving to Colorado. Like, final decision.
Host 1
So then are we allowed to ban Mormon symbolism?
Host 2
Not in Utah. I don't think so.
Host 1
I'm just saying it's an alternative lifestyle.
Host 2
It's an alternative lifestyle.
Host 1
Mormonism is an alternative lifestyle to traditional Christianity. It's on. It's non traditional Christianity.
Host 2
That's true.
Host 1
I'm just gonna throw that out there. I mean, like, I'm just throwing it out there that more the Mormon lifestyle is non traditional Christianity. I mean, if you want to be a good traditional Christian, you would believe that Jesus Christ died in the Middle east and not somewhere in America. If you want to be a traditional Christian, you wouldn't believe that Jesus Christ and the devil were brothers in prehistory before they turned everybody's souls into a big soul war that happened. If you're a traditional Christian, you don't believe that when you die, you get given a planet. I'm just throwing these things out there. These are some of the alternative lifestyle beliefs of the Church of Latter Day Saints.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
I'm just saying that if you didn't want to promote your alternative lifestyle, you wouldn't have your local university named after such a Prolific polygamist. I mean, Brigham Young, he had a, you know, bring them young. Bring them young. He had. Him. He had how many wives?
Host 2
I don't know.
Host 1
He had a lot. I think it was in the 30s. He had 30 plus wives.
Host 2
Too many wives.
Host 1
It's too many wives. That's a lot of sister wives.
Host 2
I don't. Sounds exhausting.
Host 1
It does sound exhausting.
Host 2
I don't want to get anywhere.
Host 1
And I'm just. I'm just. I'm just pointing out there, if you're gonna sit here and don't throw stones in glass temples. Mormons like, you guys want to get out here and you want me scream about tradition. We'll remind the Southern Baptist of what you all believe in. We'll go. What you all want to talk about? What type of underwear people are wearing with your magic underwears? You want to talk about who should be on what swim team when you're out here baptizing dead people? I don't bring it up all the time. Mormons. I don't. Y'all start. Y'all start dipping a toe and what people believe and what's traditional and what's a good value, you start doing these things. Listen, at the end of the day, y'all are aligned with a lot of crazy forces right there. When it deals with the evangelical movement, Mormons, but you also are part of a movement of people who believed that it was. We were already in the end times. Hence the reason you were later Day Saints, Latter Day Saints. You thought it was already the end time. It's been a while. It's been 150 years. Y'all running around here screaming, it's the end times. And on top of that, your boy Mitt, Remember Mitt Mid was supposed to be on the white horse saving America. I'm just saying, Mormons, don't be dipping too much of your toes in the culture war when we need y'all. Because, listen, we need some of y'all, your specialty Mormons who have infiltrated so many layers of our federal government. We need you all to be a little bit of a deep state right now. Okay? I don't know if some of you Mormons have looked around at some of the numbers. All right? Have you looked at your Coca Cola stock recently? Remember, Mormons, you used to be against Coca Cola, and they left you a bunch of that stock. You used to be against it.
Host 2
Yeah. But then suddenly got some stock options.
Host 1
They got some stock options, got left to the elders.
Host 2
God said, you can have it.
Host 1
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Host 1
I'm not done yelling at the Mormons.
Host 2
Oh, well, I'm not even done my story about the Mormons. Oh, that's true, because there's a funny little ending here. Okay, so they leave, right? Sundance is like, we're leaving by. So then the governor releases a statement on Twitter, of course, and it says, I brought the statement because again, remember, they have been yelling that they don't even want Sundance here. Get out. We don't want to invest in you. We don't want your lib politics with all your lgbtq.
Host 1
And one point out, his name is Governor Cox.
Host 2
Governor Cox.
Host 1
Governor Cox of Utah has been screaming.
Host 2
That they don't even want them here. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And all the other people that are, you know, Republican legislators have been, like, talking mad shit about Sundance. So Sundance, like, we're leaving by. We're going to Colorado. And Governor Cox said, while we're disappointed by Sundance's decision to leave Utah, we wish them continued success in their next chapter. For more than 40 years, Utah has supported the Sundance Film Festival to become a global force in film, art, and culture. As I've said from the beginning, we wanted Sundance to stay. We made that clear to their leadership and put together a highly competitive package. Ultimately, this decision is theirs to make. But I believe it's a mistake and that one day they'll realize they left behind not just a place, but their heritage. In the meantime, we'll Keep doing what we've always done, supporting filmmakers and building a world class film economy right here in Utah. We've already begun meeting with partners, stakeholders and creative forces to create a new festival. One that honors our legacy and writes the next chapter of an independent film in Utah.
Host 1
Mmm. That's gonna be Kevin. Kevin Sorbo movies.
Host 2
Yeah, that's gonna be.
Host 1
That's gonna be mythica7. Yep, that's gonna be mythica7. You know, you know when you're scrolling on Amazon prime and you see a movie that doesn't make or to be.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And you're like, how did this get made? Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be through Utah Mormon dentist tax dollars. Yeah. Because they also ban fluoride.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
So they banned fluoride.
Host 2
Got weak teeth.
Host 1
They got.
Host 2
So they're going to drink Coca Cola with their weak teeth.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
No, it's not good.
Host 1
I'm just. Listen, the Mormons are messing up, man.
Host 2
They're not making good decisions.
Host 1
They're not making a good decision. And like, I can only. I feel, I do feel bad for the local businesses who are going to lose out.
Host 2
So much money.
Host 1
So much money. But also because it was also a tourism driver that showed other people from around the world of how beautiful Utah is. Is. Yeah. I've never been, but I've never been. Have you been to Utah?
Host 2
I was in Utah once. It was kind of a bummer. It's a dry town.
Host 1
Yeah, okay, but. And you weren't dry back then.
Host 2
Nope.
Host 1
Yeah, I get that. I've never been because I, I. There's one time I drove across the country actually.
Host 2
Funny story. You need a sponsor to drink in Utah.
Host 1
That's true.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
I don't know if that's still true.
Host 2
It might not be true anymore, but at the time.
Host 1
Yeah, yeah. Because they have private clubs.
Host 2
Exactly.
Host 1
You had to get some alcohol because the Mormons are anti alcohol. Yeah, but so to get alcohol you have to be a member of a private club, meaning you have to have a sponsor to say, I know that person. And then you have to pay like a nominal fee to be able to get into. They're basically like legal speakeasies that have like this really weird licensing. Yeah. But when I drove across the country, I wrote like different slogans for like different states as I drove through it.
Host 2
Okay.
Host 1
And we never even got to Utah. I was like, why are you going to go to Utah? Because I was like, everything I like there is illegal. Like, everyone I know who's ever been to Utah or driven through Utah, had been pulled over, had their car searched, been screamed at and been informed that they were being watched and, like, all this other different.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And I like. But then again, back then, it was because all my friends were like crazy hippies who had, like, painted their car.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
I'm like, you basically. You. Basically. If you. If you use. If you paint your car with acrylic swirls.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
You're asking to be pulled over.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Like. Oh, no. Just. It's like a throwback 60s.
Host 2
Oh, my God. There was this other tweet that I thought was so crazy. I don't remember if it was Governor Cox or the other guy, the senator, one of them tweeted that he didn't think that they should invest the money into Sundance when they should. He said, I'd rather, like, have a raffle and just give away that money to a local Utah Mormon family or something.
Host 1
Yeah, but see, this is that. No, that's Doge dividend shit.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
They're all liars when it comes to this. Because this is exactly we've been dealing with nationwide.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
This is the exact shit we've been dealing with across the entire country. Because their big claim constantly is that they're going to cut this stuff and then that money is going to come back to us. They're going to give it to families, it's going to go back to Americans. You heard them, they're in the campaign the entire time. Why are we helping these people around the world? We have veterans here.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And then they cut those same programs. I mean, one big cut that just happened that nobody's really talking about is there is a program that you know very well called liheap.
Host 2
Yep.
Host 1
And that program, liheap is used for energy assistance for people across America.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And this is. Now we say energy assistance. In reality, when we're thinking about in Pennsylvania or Utah or the upper Midwest, like Wisconsin, usually heat. It's your thing about heat. Oil heating, especially help or electric heating or just with the bills. When you think about Arizona, Texas, Florida, you're talking about air conditioning. Because. Because of extreme weather conditions in this country, we have areas where it is unlivable for a certain amount of days. If you do not have air conditioning or if you do not have heat, you can die or you can have issues happen to your home. If it's below freezing for long enough and you do not have heat in your home, your pipes can freeze and then burst. Now, your home becomes unlivable if you cannot afford heat in some areas Then your lease is immediately invalidated because you have to be able to afford heat to be able to keep your heat under your landlord's agreement. And so the federal government and local states have had this thing called liheap.
Host 2
It stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program. It's a grant program.
Host 1
Yeah. LI H E A P. And real.
Host 2
Quick, the thing that makes it different than other types of programs is that because it's a grant program, you're the grant in quotes. Grant money goes directly to the utility company.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
So when I would help people fill out applications for it, it was like, we're going to help you get a LIHEAP grant. And let's say a senior citizen that was lower income would receive like $300.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
That $300 would be sent directly to their provider of heat. So whether they have electric heat, gas heat, oil heat, whatever, it go to Pico or pgw. So that money goes into their account and then they don't even touch it. They don't get the money.
Host 1
Yeah. No, when you, when you say account, you're talking about their heat bill.
Host 2
Yeah. The money goes.
Host 1
Not their bank. No, they never see the money.
Host 2
The money goes right to the utility company.
Host 1
Basically, as far as the, the old person's concerned, it's a discount already. So when they still. Most these people are still paying a bill.
Host 2
Yeah, they're discounted.
Host 1
It's just. It's just we're helping them out with a certain percentage of it because a lot of them are on fixed income, especially for seniors, for Social Security or people that have children or things like that who aren't. Maybe they're working for a corporation like Walmart and they're not being paid enough. So Walmart goes and hires nonprofits to make sure that these people know how to fill out to request for these grants. There's all these different things that are set up this program. Just so you know, three days ago, as of this recording, on April 1st, on April Fool's Day, Doge. Remember Doge? Remember Elon?
Host 2
Yep.
Host 1
Remember those fuckers? They came in and they fired every single person who helps distribute the money for LIHEAP to the states to be able to then be distributed down to the individual service providers that DOGE direction was handed to. Guess who? Because Elon's not the one who hit the fire button. Elon. Elon and his people sent an email to a series of people to go down this thing. LIHEAP was under Health and Human Services. RFK Jr. Is the one who did this. Remember that remember? Make America healthy again. How the fuck are you supposed to be healthy if you're freezing? How the fuck are you supposed to be healthy if your pipes are exploding? How the fuck are you supposed to be healthy if you live in Phoenix, Arizona? It's 117 degrees outside, you fucking broken throat demon. Oh no. We're gonna make sure that there's no sea to wails. How the fuck are they supposed to have healthy food and fresh vegetables if their electricity is shut the fuck off because they never made enough fucking money and now everything else is going through the fucking roof. At the same time Donnie's over here throwing in fucking tariffs to raise money on fucking everything. So now these people are got to pay more for everything. And at the same exact time these same people are also gonna not have enough money to cover their bills. And now get evicted. Now. Hey, maybe that'll handle the housing crisis, right? Maybe that'll bring down home prices. Fuckers.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
I hate these maha bitches. Every single one of them. Every single one of you fucking T shirt selling grifters. I've seen you across there. I've seen you idiots partner with fucking with fucking infowars. I've seen you all run around trying to sell ivermectin to fucking people and all your other bullshit. I've seen each and every one of you. And who are you getting platformed by? The same assholes I fucking screamed at last week. I'm just. There are programs that did so much good in this country for so long. We're talking about 40, 50 years that did such a good job that most of us don't even know they fucking existed. And unless you were like Mrs. P and you worked on a non profit to help people with this or unless you had a specific family member who needed to reach out for this assistance, you don't know that they're gone. And you know you're going to spend the next fucking 10, 15 years. We should have a program to help old people.
Host 2
Oh my God.
Host 1
With their heat. You know where old people keep losing their homes? You're going to be saying that shit about Social Security soon. You're going to be saying that shit about Medicare and Medicaid soon. You know why Dr. Oz just got put in charge of Medicare and Medicaid. Dr. Fucking Oz, the. The puppy killer. He killed dogs. He was a fucking puppy killer. That was his job, was injecting dogs with fucking medicine. Huh? You crunchy hippie fucks sitting out there. We need to rub crystals and the vaccines are Hurting the babies. He's a dog killer. Where ya at, you Brittas? You can excuse racism. They're killing dogs. How many members of this fucking administration have we found out have killed dogs, hurt women, all this.
Host 2
I think it's all of them.
Host 1
Anyway, sorry.
Host 2
No, don't be sorry. You're right. Because it's. You know what? When we, when we saw the post, when we got the notification that liheap is basically just had its ankles torn out from under it.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Because it can't, the money can't be distributed if there's no employees is.
Host 1
They're gonna steal the money. They're gonna steal the money. It's like $300 million just sitting around. They're gonna put it towards something else.
Host 2
They're gonna do something dumb with it. But the thing that I always see on the Internet from the magazine, the Mahas and the conservatives and the Republicans is like we don't want our tax money to be used on these tax money on this. And I, my whole thought has always been what do you want your tax money to go to? Because they're never talking about, you know, infrastructure and fixing bridges and they always scream they want to help veterans but the VA just got fucking defunded.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Everything about the VA is crumbling, but they've been screaming about how we can't help people because we need to keep. For our veterans.
Host 1
We need to be helping our own first.
Host 2
And so it's like this is a program that keeps people's heat on in the winter and air conditioning on in the summer in places where there's really hot climates. This is such an important program. And like as someone who pays taxes, as someone who pays a lot of taxes, right. I've paid taxes my whole fucking life. Even when I could have qualified for SNAP benefits myself, I had to pay a lot of taxes. Right. I want my money to go to a program like liheap. I don't want my money to go to the military industrial complex. I don't want my money to go to fucking paying for Elon Musk to get tax write off. Why can't my money go to LIHEAP to help?
Host 1
The biggest thing I've always said, if you want to, you want to really fucking nail it down on these, on these fucking MAGA idiots. When it comes to taxes would be which what the federal government should do, which is at the end of every fucking tax season, after you pay your tax bill, you should be sent a receipt.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
That says with the percentages broken down for you yourself. Oh, I paid however much in taxes this year. Okay, well, this much went to your Social Security fund. I know you think you're not getting that money back, but that money is coming back to you eventually through Social Security. This much went to your Medicare, Medicaid, insurance. This much weight went to cobra. All these different things, right? And then when you get down to we're talking to usaid for some of these fucking people, it's like you spent maybe, maybe even a nickel.
Host 2
Maybe a nickel.
Host 1
For a bunch of y'all, you got a bunch of money back. Some of y'all are actually net negative. In fact, you're the one getting the money now. And I know some of those people are so fucking stupid that they can't understand what a negative. If. You know how I know that? Because I used to work in a bank call center and I had to listen to those conversations. I used to sit next to this lady named. Named Shonda. I. Babe, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. When the. When paychecks was rolling, especially around Social Security time, we had a lot of older clients. And I'll never forget, Shonda was behind me. And you know how when you got a clock going.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
It's clock going. And around like quarter after and quarter till it always. Weirdly, there's like a lull.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
That weird little thing. And so if you're talking, it's really loud room, you're having a conversation, and that's how my penis. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like the whole room's gotten quiet. Everybody heard you. That's what happened with Shonda's call. We're all yapping, we're all on the phone. It's like 2:15 in the afternoon and everybody's phone just happened. Like they happened to end their call. Yeah, we just had a low call volume. But Shonda's on the line and it was right after payday. And this guy is called and he was pissed because he was supposed to get, I don't know, $400 in his check, but when he opened his account, he only had 350.
Host 2
Okay.
Host 1
Because his account was negative.
Host 2
So he had a late fee.
Host 1
So he. Well, he had late fees and all this other different stuff, but in reality, his account had actually already run negative because of some other things. He had that. Which that were pending.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
So he actually hadn't gotten hit by any charges. All this different stuff. He's like, he. Technically speaking, though, because this, this check came at the same exact time the Money was already spent.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And she's explaining to him. She goes, well, sir, you had a negative balance in your account. That's the reason why you don't have the full 400.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And he says, I don't understand. And she goes, what don't you understand? You owed $50.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
So when 400 came in, you have 350. And he goes, I don't understand why I owed $50. She goes, because you ran your account negative. He goes, I don't know what negative means. She goes. And we all heard Sondra say the following. She goes, sir, you not understand. A negative is between you and your fourth grade teacher. I have nothing to do with this. And then she hung up the call. And I think about that all the time because there's so many of these fucking people who do not. They definitely wouldn't understand a double negative. So if we gave them a tax. If we gave them a tax receipt at the end of the year.
Host 2
Yep.
Host 1
Especially on some of these places, like Mississippi. If we gave all of Mississippi a tax receipt and explained to them how much they got fucking back. Or Florida or some of these other states. Because a lot of states in the Northeast and on the west coast and a lot of these blue states are subsidizing these red states who are then turning around and are trying to fucking harm the blue states and the blue regions. So you have these areas that are being actively attacked, and it's like, okay, well, if we show you the bill of where the money's actually being driven through, maybe you guys would understand. But I know for a fact they wouldn't, because some of these guys in these counties and then these states would look at it, be like, well, why do I have a negative bill? No, no, that means you're getting paid. Oh, fuck.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And now we're back through it, and Linda McMahon of WWE is the one running our fucking Education Department now. So it's not like math is going to math anytime soon.
Host 2
Well, you need. Okay, listen. Yeah, it's. It doesn't make you feel good. Wait, didn't one of the states actually just stop having property tax? Was that like Mississippi, Mississippi.
Host 1
Mississippi got rid of income Crazy. No, no, they got rid of income tax. Yeah, Mississippi got rid of income tax. But the thing is, is, like, nobody there really has income. Yeah, I mean, like, Mississippi is one of the states where they make a big deal. Those are one of those red states were like, too many people on welfare, but they actually were paying Brett Favre welfare money.
Host 2
Yeah, I remember that.
Host 1
Story that's it was Brett Favre and I think Ted DiBiase, the Million Dollar man again from WWE.
Host 2
Perfect.
Host 1
It's weird how these wrestling grifters just fucking sprinkle around. It's almost as if that they're all carnies.
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Host 1
One thing that caught me off guard.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
When I was in New York was you went, oh, look at this vintage store. And then you turn and walked in.
Host 2
I was dying laughing because it said vintage shop 90s and 2000s.
Host 1
I was losing. I was losing. I walked in and it definitely was the 90s. It was late 90s.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Not early 90s. It was late 90 s and early aughts and early aughts. But I even saw a shirt in there from 2019.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
I took a picture of it because it was a fast. It's the Fast and the Furious franchise.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Like remembrance shirt. I think when, like, I think Fast six or something was coming out. It was like from this date to this on 2019. I was like, what the.
Host 2
There was a pair of pants in there that I absolutely owned in high school.
Host 1
Yeah. But I got really, really mad because, like, yeah, I get, I get that I'm old. I get that I'm old.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
But calling this shit vintage just broke my brain.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And it was. But it also was part of. It was like looking around. There was no style. Like, it's weird when there's nostalgia for stuff that wasn't great. When you live through it.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Do you know what I mean? Does that make sense to anybody?
Host 2
Yeah. It's also like, I guess in that store specifically, the nostalgia is through a perspective of someone who wasn't there.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
So these younger kids that were in their shopping are having nostalgia for the late 90s and early aughts and like, they didn't live through it. So like they're, they have this whole different idea. But when I look at it, I'm like, oh, my God, I remember buying those pants at Guacamole on South street and then riding the bus home and, like, it, like, I had, like, glitter eyeshadow that we all used to wear, but it was so sticky because it was poorly made.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And so my eyes were always, like, stuck together because I had this, like. It was basically glitter glue on my eyes for two years.
Host 1
Well, then I'm looking, and all the T shirts were black. And that, like, instantly I was, like, losing because I also walked up and, like, touched them, and I'm like, well, they feel like shit.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Because 90 shirts were a different quality.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And also the. The screen printing on them, you know, they're all flaky and stuff, like, which, like, this is. This is, like, slowly getting more and more distressed because that's just how their screen printed. But, like, the quality, they don't breathe the same. But also, I just kept looking. I was like, there's no color.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And that was a thing that drove me crazy because I used to be very much. I was like. I wasn't a goth kid. I was kind of more like a metal pro wrestling kid.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And so, like, from eighth grade on, like, all of my T shirts, I had black T shirts. Everything was a black graphic tee. But I also had a dalmatian. And those things don't go together. Those things don't go together because dalmatians shed. And when they shed, they had these tight. This white fur.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
With a tiny hook on it. So I was just. I was sitting there thinking I was so cool in my Austin 316 shirt. And I was covered in white hairs.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
I would just look like this dirty kid. I just constantly looked dirty. And I was just staring at all this different stuff. And then, like, when I met you, there was a day I met you, I was like, oh, you know, things are going pretty good. I was happier. Obama was president. Seemed like we had turned a corner.
Host 2
Oh, yeah.
Host 1
I think this is pretty good.
Host 2
We're on upswing.
Host 1
And I was like. I. I realized I was like, I gotta stop wearing so many black T shirts because also washes me out. It makes me look even paler.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And then you were like, you look good. Yeah. It was like I had, like, a yellow shirt one day. Like, you look good in yellow.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And then I was like, I want to get yellow shirts.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
There's a while where I wouldn't wear green because I thought it made me look too much like a leprechaun. I'm wearing a green shirt right now. But I was like, I made you look too Irish. I wouldn't wear red because I thought that made me look crazy.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And all these rules for all these colors I wouldn't wear. And now. Now I get so mad if I see a design on a shirt I really like, and then I go like, I want that shirt. Like, oh, yeah, we only have it in black.
Host 2
I'm like, fuck, no. Not doing.
Host 1
At the minimum, like, Heather gray. Give me a Heather gray, please. Yeah.
Host 2
Or white, please.
Host 1
White's nice.
Host 2
White's nice.
Host 1
I don't want a shirt that's nice. I just.
Host 2
I usually. If I buy white T shirts, I buy them with the knowledge that in six months, they're going to be dyed. Because, like, I dip dye clothes all the time.
Host 1
Yeah, you do.
Host 2
And sometimes I tie dye them or whatever. But, like, anything that I buy that's white, I understand that. Like, I have a dog, I have a baby, I have an addiction to coffee.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
There will be stains.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And so I just. If I buy white shirts, I always make sure that whatever the image or the print is, that I know that if I dye it, like, mauve or brown. Like, because I'm big into rit dye.
Host 1
Because it.
Host 2
Again, like, why buy a new shirt when you can just dye it a new color? Well, I think about it, but that's.
Host 1
The one thing I keep looking at, too, is, like, when thinking about nostalgia and conformity and all these different things of, like, the early 2000s. Like, really, like that period from, I want to say, like, 99 to, like, 2006.
Host 2
Okay.
Host 1
Because there was, like, a battle that's a wide swath. It is a wide swath, but in a lot of ways, it isn't for, like, the Limp Bizkit fan, like, that new metal. Because this is what a lot of that. That nostalgia is for.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
That new metal look. The. You know, the pant, the baggy pants.
Host 2
The Jenko jeans are coming back.
Host 1
Jenko jeans.
Host 2
Love that. For that.
Host 1
That side test. And what's crazy about it, though, is I see the nostalgia for the. The Limp Bizkit and new metal side, but I don't see it for what was actually popular at the time.
Host 2
Britney Spears.
Host 1
No. Which is. Well, there's some. For Britney Spears. Ye was. Was so much more culturally dominant, which was the hip hop of that time.
Host 2
Oh, yeah.
Host 1
I'm not seeing as much for dmx. I'm not seeing as much for Nelly.
Host 2
Moesha, Ja Rule, tlc.
Host 1
Yeah. But I mean, like, these groups had, like, massive outsized reach.
Host 2
And in Vogue in Vogue was such a good one.
Host 1
Yeah. But, but as I've said before, and I, I'm. I'll say it again, a big part of this is because the people who were the most online, which is where we have the most media to touch.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
That has been converted to digital from that time are the people who were typically white suburbanites.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And so like a lot of the nostalgia, that's also what we're being fed too, because of our algorithms. But a lot of the nostalgia I'm being see sold in that way and that's being marketed and then repackaged to all these different groups is because they were the earliest ones to digitize.
Host 2
Yeah. But also I think there's a thing that people are seeing in fashion that is very. This idea of like, conformity. Like, I was giggling when we were at the hotel because I got, I went down the elevator to get a cup of coffee in the morning.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And who went on the elevator with me but five young women. And they were all wearing the exact same outfit. Like it was slightly different. Like they all got the items at a different store, but they all were wearing a black turtleneck, light wash, jeans that were wide leg and like Nike Air Forces. And it was, they were all just exact replicas of each other just in a different, like slightly different. Slightly different font. And I was like, yo, that's so crazy. But like, that's very, like, just like when we're in that vintage store, like the racks, it was a rack of flannel, a rack of crewnecks, a rack of T shirts and a rack of jeans. So it's like, oh, look at you. You're being different, edgy. Everybody that would buy an outfit from there would come out looking exactly the same.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And if there's one thing that hip hop culture from the 90s and early augh was is not the same.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
It was very flamboyant and bright colors and loud and oversized and eccentric and that's what made it so great.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
But you and I have had this conversation. I've had this conversation with sad. Beige as well is like the beige of occasion of things making things really boring and monotonous and taking the color and enthusiasm. Enthusiasm out of fashion sets a tone. And as we see what's happening with our government, it's like it all plays a part in it.
Host 1
Well, what I find really, really strange is that I'm seeing that, you know what, the bunch last bunch of years there was the Beijing, like Kanye pushing it and Kim Kardashian oh, my God.
Host 2
Their weird beige house.
Host 1
Well, yeah. And then. And then now if you go to TJ Maxx or if you go to Marshalls or any of these other, like, stores that are selling old stock, you'll see a lot of that beige stuff has finally trickled all the way down.
Host 2
The beige rainbow. Do you remember how.
Host 1
Oh, God. That was. That was.
Host 2
It was a wooden rainbow toy for babies. For babies. But it was beige. And I'm like, it's a rainbow. But it was just different tones.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And I was like, that's the funniest thing. Imagine trying to teach a baby what a rainbow is, but only in shades of brown.
Host 1
This is pink. I mean, it's more of a mauve.
Host 2
Red, Yellow, Orange.
Host 1
Green.
Host 2
Green.
Host 1
You're about you. I was about to sing like Mrs. Rachel. Red, yellow, orange, green. No, but the. I think the thing that gets me is, like, I'm seeing more and more conservatism, especially in. I mean, obviously you're seeing in education, but also in. In the clothing that the higher end is. That's going to trickle down. But when you look and you see video from inside Mar A Lago, when you see video at these, like, Maga or Kid Rock, like, there's, like, the Maga fashion shows and the Kid Rock show. It's tacky, but it's also, like, fake fanboy flamboyance.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And, like, very plastic and dropshipped. And what's crazy is, like, they are allowed to be opulent. Opulent and weird. Because that's them peacocking for each other.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
We. And people on the. On the outer edges are being told and shown that we can't peacock for each other, that we can't be flamboyant, that we can't have big headdresses and all this different. Meanwhile, you go to Mar A Lago and it's just a parade of just.
Host 2
These ugliest things you've ever seen in your life.
Host 1
One of the most hideous.
Host 2
Which is why I love wearing bright colors all the time.
Host 1
You say as you're sitting here in all black.
Host 2
I know, but you're in all black right now.
Host 1
But I've been the same way. It's like, the other reason why I stopped wearing black T shirts, too, is I realized, like, every. When I was doing a lot more stand up and I was doing open mics, every fucking comedian that got up there would wear a black T shirt.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Every single one. It was a. It was a. It was a white guy. Especially in, like, around 2012, every comedian was a white guy with shaggy hair, a beard, glasses, black T shirt, jeans, and, like, black. And it was just like.
Host 2
It was like, make sense on stage either. No, light absorbs it, and.
Host 1
But also. And most of the stages were black box theaters, so you just look like a disembodied head and pale arms just.
Host 2
Yelling into the night.
Host 1
It's what it looked like. And so I've always, like, I've always tried to make sure that when I get on stage, especially that I have a shirt that is, like, that has more of a pop. Because I want you to look as I'm moving, I want you to see my whole body.
Host 2
Yeah. Wiggling.
Host 1
Just wiggle it around. But when you talk about the MAGA fashion people, I just. We have a note here that just says, carrie Lake looks like a raisin.
Host 2
So I write notes of things that we think we want to talk about. And, yeah, I was talking about Carrie, like, looking like a raisin.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Because she has a crazy filter on all the time.
Host 1
Well, one of the things is. Is we were talking. The reason why we brought up Kari Lake is because we were talking about the new format of the show.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
And some of the changes that we've made. And one of the big things has been Mr. Third coming in, which a lot of people. Mr. Third, just so you know, a lot of comments on the YouTube and on the Patreon for you, saying, you did a great job. Great job last episode.
Host 2
Great job.
Host 1
And one of the things we were talking about is, for me, I'm like, yeah, you know, he did a great job. I can see a couple of wrinkles, and I need a little filter. Is there. Is there a. Is there a gel.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Is there a thing we can do?
Host 2
Oprah lighting.
Host 1
Oprah, like, you could be, like, soft light. You kept yelling, Oprah or Barbara Walton. And I said, I need that Carrie Lake lighting. And then neither of you knew what I was talking about, so I had to pull up a picture. And you guys need to get a chance. Go type in Carrie Lake interview.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Okay. Google Carrie Lake interview. And then you'll see pictures of her taken in high def at a rally. Right. She'll be at a MAGA rally. And you see what she looks like. And then you look at there what her. When she's, like, at home using her setup the same way I use the same setup today when I did my interview with News Nation. It's like, yeah, this setup. And the thing about Carrie Lake is that she started. She ran for a governor of Arizona and for the Senate and lost terribly both times.
Host 2
Yes.
Host 1
In Arizona.
Host 2
Deeply unlikable, deeply unlike person, awful person.
Host 1
But she was a newscaster. She was a local newscaster in Arizona for a very long time. And her husband was her cameraman. And so her home setup that she's been running since the pandemic has been run by a professional cameraman with professional lighting, with professional filters and smoothing and lenses and all these different things. And I was like, I would like that very much as I gauge I was sitting there. And so that's why we have the note. Carrie Lake looks like a raisin.
Host 2
Well, yeah, because as soon as I saw a picture without the zoom filters or whatever she's using.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
I was like, oh, she looks like a testicle. And then you said raisin to be nicer.
Host 1
Yeah, I know. Well, you went right to ball. You went right to ball. When she's, when she's on camera, though, when she's. That I came over from home, she looks like she's a. What's that with the botulism in the forehead?
Host 2
All of the people.
Host 1
No, no, what's it called where they put the botulism in the forehead?
Host 2
Botox.
Host 1
Botox. She looks like a Botox testicle.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Smooth.
Host 2
Just. No, like, very. It gives the. What we're saying is the Dorian Gray of it all.
Host 1
Yes.
Host 2
It's like the pretty picture, but then when you see the back.
Host 1
Her interview. Her interview camera shots are her Dorian Gray. And then she gets up in front of an actual crowd, they're like, ah. Oh, who let Emperor Palpatine out? Well, but like I said, we were saying we've had a lot of changes to the show and we. We have a couple changes that we are going to talk about real quick. Okay. Before we close out. And one of the things is this show is not going to have shout outs at the end. However, there are still shout outs.
Host 2
There's definitely still shout outs.
Host 1
You can still get those shout outs. And for anybody who's joined us moving forward, we're going to be doing those on the Warm up, which is our Patreon exclusive podcast. Why are we doing this? There's a couple different reasons, but a big one being our new members who are joining us on Patreon. We want you to check out the Warm Up. You're going to hear some things different. It's paywalled. Maybe there's some things that wink, wink, nudge, nudge. We'll leave it at that.
Host 2
Yeah. Well, also by the end of these episodes, it's been quite a while and we're a little tired.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And I think we'll just have more spunk.
Host 1
Yeah. More energy.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
More vim and vigor.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
So all these things are still gonna be there for you. And also we are bringing back polls to the Patreon.
Host 2
Yeah, we got a big one coming up, baby.
Host 1
There's a very big poll that's happening right now as you are listening and watching this show. And that is that Mrs. Pearl Mania ordered and received her patio goose.
Host 2
Patio goose has arrived.
Host 1
The front, the front door goose is here and we need a name and we posted a picture of it on the Patreon. People have already been pouring in suggesting names. So if you want to add, if you have a name for a patio goose in mind, we would like you to go to our Patreon Pearlmania500.net if you are a member, you can go down to the picture of me holding the goose and you can go and.
Host 2
You can submit your suggestion name in there. And then we're going to put a.
Host 1
Pull up, we're going to put a poll up. We're going to pick through our favorite names.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
We're going to narrow it down.
Host 2
There's so many good ones.
Host 1
There's so many good names. It's going to be.
Host 2
I'm so excited.
Host 1
We're going to have a full fight. This will be a three person super delegate vote on who's going to what names are going to make it to the end. And then we're going to leave it up to the Patreons. And then there's also going to be more polls coming when talking about book club and some other small changes there and everything else. I think that's, I think, I think that's everything. That's kind of everything. And we covered all this on this week's episode of the Warm up in much greater detail.
Host 2
Yeah. Plus a lot of other weird stories a lot can't share without a paywall.
Host 1
Yeah. Well, there's that. There is that.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
But with that, I want to say thank you to all of our listeners, all of our patreons, and especially Mr. Third for doing it. Mrs. P, do you have a word? Do you have a sentence? Do you have a phrase that you would like for everyone who's reached the end of the episode?
Host 2
Have a great week, everybody.
Host 1
No, not that. They have to type something.
Host 2
Oh, they have to type something.
Host 1
We've been doing this now. How many months? Oh, it's been like four or five months. I've turned to you and saying, what's the comment?
Host 2
Nostalgia.
Host 1
You just want them to write a nostalgia.
Host 2
I don't know. Well, what, it's better than no, I got your raisin.
Host 1
Okay, don't write California raisin. I would like you guys go down to the comment section and write something that you're nostalgic for. Something you're truly nostalgic for. Something that makes you just sit up at night and go, huh? Remember that for me. I'll tell you what I'm nostalgic for. I'm nostalgic literally for just the local mall. Like that's what I'm nostalgic for. I'm nostalgic for just being able to go walk around the local mall, see people, see open shops, look at stuff I'm never gonna buy. Or maybe even just like, you know, just go stop by and get an Orange Julius and just having a place where it felt like there were other people. Because even right now, when I go to the new fake city type of places that they have, when I pull up directly to the big box store just doesn't feel the same. Yeah, that's what I'm. I'm always going to be at the end of the day. I'm going to be nostalgic for a life of being able to be a mall rat in my. In my black graphic tee Metallica T shirt with my oversized JNCO jeans on that are just a little wet around the cuff.
Host 2
Oh, yeah.
Host 1
With my chain wallet being chased out around by a mall security guard. Whole haircut while I wear a beanie.
Host 2
Wow.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Well, listen, have a great week, everybody.
Host 1
Have a great week, everybody. We'll talk to you soon. Too many frauds and too many scammers that we wish weren't real. Too many cons and too many spammers and we're starting to feel like we've got too many times of open too many times. Remember to smile.
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Summary of "MAGA Mormons Burn 100 Million To Own Libs" Episode of Too Many Tabs with Pearlmania500
Released on April 6, 2025
The episode opens with Host 1 expressing frustration towards Utah politicians manipulating cultural issues to maintain power, stating, “If you think it's bad now, you aren't a politician in Utah who's been trying to use culture war garbage to stay in power and make sure that his state loses $100 million” (00:29). Host 2 echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the negative impact of such political strategies on daily life.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the Utah-based Sundance Film Festival considering relocation due to the state's recent legislation against LGBTQ symbols. Host 1 highlights the gravity of the situation: “This is called Too many Tabs. Too many tabs” (00:56), setting the stage for a deep dive into the cultural and economic ramifications.
Key Points:
Notable Quote: Host 1 reflects on the cultural clash: “We need some of y'all, your specialty Mormons who have infiltrated so many layers of our federal government. We need you all to be a little bit of a deep state right now” (30:16).
The hosts delve into their disdain for MAGA-affiliated politicians, particularly focusing on their influence and decision-making processes that adversely affect societal programs.
Key Points:
Notable Quote: Host 2 laments the shutdown of vital programs: “Don’t we want to do something to help people... We have veterans here” (42:52).
A critical segment addresses the recent dismantling of the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP), a federal grant program that provided essential energy support to low-income households.
Key Points:
Notable Quote: Host 1 expresses indignation over the policy change: “How the fuck are you supposed to be healthy if you're freezing?” (38:52).
Transitioning from political discourse, the hosts engage in a nostalgic conversation about fashion trends from the late '90s and early 2000s, highlighting the contrast between past flamboyant styles and current conformity.
Key Points:
Notable Quote: Host 1 laments the loss of individuality: “So when you talk about the MAGA fashion people, I just...” (57:00).
In the concluding segment, the hosts announce updates to their podcast structure, emphasizing a shift towards exclusive content for Patreon supporters and the introduction of interactive polls.
Key Points:
Notable Quote: Host 1 invites listener participation: “We posted a picture of me holding the goose and you can go and submit your suggestion name in there” (63:05).
The episode "MAGA Mormons Burn 100 Million To Own Libs" offers a blend of political critique, economic analysis, and cultural nostalgia. Hosts Pearlmania500 provide a passionate commentary on the current state of Utah politics, the potential loss of the Sundance Film Festival, and the broader implications of conservative policies on essential social programs like LIHEAP. Additionally, their personal reflections on fashion trends add a relatable layer to the discussion, while updates on the podcast's evolution aim to engage and expand their listener community.
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Note: The time stamps correspond to moments in the transcript where notable quotes were made by the hosts.