Libby Page (4:08)

Oh, thank you so much and thank you for having me.

Zibby Owens (4:10)

This is like so amazing to me because I have been just obsessed with obsessed with this book, loving it, and now I know it just doesn't get old to like have you right in front of me after you wrote this whole thing. It's just the coolest.

Libby Page (4:22)

Well, it's very cool for me as well to be here in New York and yeah. Talking about the books.

Zibby Owens (4:26)

Oh my gosh. I loved it. I loved it so much. Oh my gosh. Okay, tell everybody what the book is about.

Libby Page (4:31)

Okay, so this book made me Think of youf is about a woman called Tilly Nightingale whose husband has sadly recently passed away. And she finds out that before he died, he arranged a year of books for her son, a very special gift through her local bookshop. She will get given a book every month and each book comes with a letter. And they're all sort of inspired. You know, they're all designed to help her through her year of grief and to send her off on literary inspired adventures.

Zibby Owens (5:01)

And where did this idea come from?

Libby Page (5:04)

From a few places, really. So it's partly inspired by my own experiences of grief and turning to books as a real comfort and escape. I think I was very lucky that actually when I was grie. I could read Tilly in the novel. She's in a real reading rut because of her grief. She's sort of. That side of her has kind of turned. Turned off really since she lost her husband. So I think I wanted to write a story that was a journey back to reading and the love of reading and how books can really take you out of where you are and really act as an escape and a way to move through and emotions.

Zibby Owens (5:43)

And I know I've only just met you about three minutes ago, but your grief. Who are the people you dedicated this to? You dedicated it to Sally. Wait, hold on. I don't want to. I'm sure these are like the. Okay. To Fred Cutting and Sally Lane.

Libby Page (5:58)

Who.

Zibby Owens (5:58)

Who are these people?

Libby Page (5:59)

So my grandfather and then also a woman who I'm sure there are listeners who probably have these people in our lives who don't have a particular definition. I called her my godmother. She was really like an extra parent to me. She helped raise me. And both of these people I lost within a few months. Both were real influential people in my life. Both real book lovers. And I think actually one of the things that I found really helped sort of feel a connection to them after they. After they'd gone was going back to books they loved. So I reread books that were real favourites of theirs. And it felt like that. That connection to them that continued, which I think was. Was really a big part of the inspiration for the book. This idea of books being like a conversation that can continue with people you love after. After they've gone.

Zibby Owens (6:47)

Well, I'm sorry for your losses. That sounds. It doesn't. You know, I've been thinking a lot about this whole definition. Like she was my cousin or she was my.

Libby Page (6:55)

This.

Zibby Owens (6:55)

It doesn't matter.

Libby Page (6:56)

Yeah, right.

Zibby Owens (6:57)

Like, why do we have to say that? I don't know. It's just. Yeah. And I think it's just somebody. Somebody I love.

Libby Page (7:02)

Yeah, that's it. And I think, you know, especially with Sally, I think of her as, you know, she was my person. You know, that person who you just. You just love. And I think that, yeah, it was hard and yeah, I feel like the being able to escape into books and just to have that, that different kind of world to go to, I felt so grateful. I've always been an avid reader, but I think particularly in that time to really, really lean on books was something I felt so grateful for.

Zibby Owens (7:30)

So what, what books did Sally like?

Libby Page (7:33)

So she loved, I mean all sorts. So the Secret Garden was one of her favourites. So I loved going back and re and rereading that. I also got some from her shelves. So lots of kind of romances and mystery. She loved that I've been, been rereading and then for my grandfather, he was a real Charles Dickens fan. So those, yeah, going back and rereading those always made me think of him as well.

Zibby Owens (7:56)

Well, I'm sure she would be delighted to know that you, you named a bookstore, a fictitious bookstore after her and an entire family, so to speak. And you know, all of that talk a little bit about this bookstore, this beautiful bookstore which I have, you've described so beautifully in the book that I feel as though I have walked in and out of it a million times in the pages of your story. Talk about creating this store.

Libby Page (8:20)

So I think as a real, you know, a real bookworm, I have always wanted to write a book set in a bookstore. I'm the kind of person that if a book has a bookshop on the COVID or the word bookshop or bookstore in the title, I will just buy it without, without reading the blurb. So I've always wanted to write a book set in a bookstore. This bookstore is set in Primrose Hill in North London. I really wanted somewhere that felt like a real heart of the community because to me that's what independent bookstores especially are. You know, it's not just about books, it's about like minded people coming together and a real kind of safe space. So I wanted to create a shop that was really cosy, really inviting and somewhere that actually Tilly just, you know, goes as a sort of safe harbor really during, you know, everything that she's going through.

Zibby Owens (9:08)

Well, I own an independent bookstore in Santa Monica called Divvy's Bookshop. And this bookstore, I'm like, I'm gonna just toss that aside and move in here. This sounds so amazing, but you really nailed all the functions and the things that have to happen behind the scenes at a bookstore too.

Libby Page (9:23)

Yeah, I must admit I'm very friendly with the manager of my local bookstore and I'm very aware that there are lots of books that are set in bookstores and often it's, you know, people reading in the, you know, on the counter and not actually doing much work. And I know that actually the reality of running a bookstore is difficult. There's a lot of manual labour, you know, picking up boxes of books. So I wanted to get that line between, you know, conveying what it's really like, but also, obviously, still being escapist for those of us who don't have our own bookstores but maybe fantasize about one day owning one.

Zibby Owens (9:57)

Well, Alfie is a fabulous character. I can see him in my head. I have to look up. I have a particular actor in mind, but I can't remember his name. So I'm gonna have to look it up after and share with you, wondering who you think he would be. But talk a little bit about Alfie, because what a character. And I love his whole development and the times we see him really coming alive and his own grief and all of that. Can you talk? Tell us about Alfie.

Libby Page (10:19)

So I think with this novel, I had a bit of a challenge in that I essentially wanted the reader to fall in love with two different male leads. So there's obviously Joe, who was Tilly's husband, who I wanted to get a sense of him across on the page and really, you know, to convey what their relationship was like and what Tilly has lost. But then there's also lovely Alfie, who runs the bookstore and really starts as a friend and, you know, things develop in the novel. But I really wanted someone who was, in a way, quite different to Jo. So I think of Jo as a real kind of golden retriever, whereas Alfie is more quiet and subdued. He's, I think, very used to kind of watching things unfurl in the shop. He inherited the bookshop from his father and I think feels a lot of responsibility and to kind of keep it exactly how his. How his father had it, but also, you know, finding his own path within that. He's a real fan of knitwear. I had this vision of a just really, you know, very handsome bookshop owner who dresses in these lovely, oversized, oversized knits. Very cosy. But, yeah, he's a. He's a real gentle soul, I think, and sort of, over time, really helps Tilly kind of come out of her shell. And I guess for both of them, you know, really what that. That connection does for both of them, I think, is an important part of the novel.

Zibby Owens (11:40)

There were a couple times where he accidentally raises the sweater and you catch a glimpse of his toned abs and all those lifting. Oh, my gosh.

Libby Page (11:50)

You know, I was thinking, you know, you're carrying In a bookstore, you're carrying big boxes of books. He probably would actually be, you know, quite in shape, shall we say?

Zibby Owens (11:59)

Oh, my gosh. I'm like, I know what Livy likes. Anyway, that was really fun. Sorry for the sirens outside. It's New York City. This is what we have around the clock. Well, Alfie, as we discussed, is going through his own breed of loss. He's not only grieving the loss of someone, but the loss of the life he would have had had that person not died. Which in this case was a dramatically different life with a different person doing a different thing, traveling, all of this. And yet he came home to be the responsible one, take over the bookstore. And he has kind of. It's like a complicated grief. He has some mixed feelings about that. Obviously, he's happy and stepped into the role, but you always kind of wonder, and I feel like you tap into that point of grief, that it's not just the now, it's the what would have been. Mm.

Libby Page (12:46)

Yeah, definitely. I think I was very inspired by his character by It's a Wonderful Life. It's one of my favorite films. And I think that, you know, that idea of a man who is sort of maybe pushed into a life that he wouldn't necessarily have chosen but then actually makes. Makes the best of it. But, yeah, I think it's, you know, in terms of grief, it. It can be so complex because it's actually, you know, all the things that happen after you've lost the person, it kind of doesn't just end, you know, it keeps going all those. All those times. And for both Tilly and Alfie, I guess that's something that they can bond over is their. Their shared experience of grief. Because Tilly, she has a sister who features quite prominently in the book who maybe doesn't quite know what to say, says the wrong thing is very well meaning, but doesn't really get it. So I think for Tilly and Alfie, it's that kind of, you know, kindred spirits that they can really connect over that shared experience of grief.

Zibby Owens (13:39)

I also like Tilly's friend Rachel, because Rachel, and this happens often with grief, is that sometimes the people you think will be there the most are the ones who suddenly are not. And you're like, what is going on? And then unexpected people sweep and help out. But Rachel goes MIA after Joe's diagnosis. And Tilly is just so devastated by this because in addition to dealing with that, now what? Her friend is gone and we don't find out later, and I won't give anything away, but there's often reasons why people pull away during really tough times, and it's not because they don't care, but maybe they just can't do it. And I felt like we don't often see that exhibited so clearly as you portrayed it in the book.

Libby Page (14:19)

I think. Yeah, I guess I wanted to get across those complexities of grief that it is. There's a lot more that can go along with it that you might not have expected. So, yeah, that was something I definitely want to explore with her character.

Zibby Owens (14:30)

I'm worried that we're talking so much about grief. It's not conveying how joyful the book can be at times and actually is an incredibly positive message. Hopeful, I mean, because you go back and show us all of the fabulous times with Jo and Tilly and falling in love, and you show us all the joy that can come from a bookstore and the fun adventures that she then goes on thanks to these books that she gets. And so I found the book not dark and heavy, but actually quite light as far as a book like this could be. And so I kept turning pages in that way, too. Was that intentional, or did you think about that?

Libby Page (15:08)

Yeah, definitely. So that's good to hear. You found that because.

Zibby Owens (15:11)

Yes.

Libby Page (15:11)

Although it is a book that is a lot about grief, it is also a book about hope and love and friendship and community. And I definitely wanted it to feel. Feel overall uplifting. I think that's something that's really important for me in my writing is, you know, I like to go there with some of the heavier things just because I feel like that's real life. And I like sort of exploring those. Those things that we all go through, but ultimately with a hopeful lens and this idea of, I guess, you know, I felt like at the start of the book, you know, Tilly feels like her story is over. And I'm sure so many of us have been. Been in those moments where you feel like, okay, something has happened, whether it's grief, whether it's, you know, any. Anything else that you're going through, you feel like, okay, this is my story, but actually turn a few more pages and there can be a whole other chapter that you just hadn't anticipated. So I definitely wanted this to be a book full of adventure and travel and fun and light, as well as the heavier aspects.

Zibby Owens (16:11)

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Zibby Owens (20:08)

I mean, part of what you did so well is because of the books that she totally gets as gifts once a month from Jo. She gets to do things that like, I have never done and that I feel like I got to do now. Like, I've never taken a pasta making class in Tuscany. I've never camped in a rainstorm. Thank God. I've never done a lot of these adventures that she goes on. And so we get to have a backseat onto all of that as well. So. Yeah. Thank you for taking us on all of these, on all of these trips.

Libby Page (20:39)

Honestly, for me writing it and I think especially thinking about that I was writing this book about grief while I was grieving, I think it proved an escape for me as well. You know, I wanted it to be a book with, with travel and adventure in it and writing those scenes I found so, so joyful. And it was such an escape. And I guess that's what I want to give to the readers as well. That is the kind of book that you could pick up. You know, maybe if you are grieving or you're having a bit of a hard day and just want to sink into something that's going to transport you, I think is definitely the intention with it.

Zibby Owens (21:11)

I mean, I was literally reading, being like, could I run a half marathon? I mean, could I if I trained really well? I mean, she's having a hard time at the beginning and I would have a hard time at the Beginning. Beginning. Maybe. I don't know.

Libby Page (21:22)

Well, I mean, I think go for it.

Zibby Owens (21:24)

Do you run?

Libby Page (21:25)

I. Well, I've on and off. I would definitely not call myself a runner, but I have. I have run on and off. But yeah, I think that would be a big challenge for me as well.

Zibby Owens (21:34)

Well, you know, they can do it. You know, all of this.

Libby Page (21:38)

I think I'm more and more the pasta making. And actually, although I didn't go on a pasta making course in Tuscany, I did do a day's pasta making.

Zibby Owens (21:44)

Oh, that sounds like in London for

Libby Page (21:46)

research for the novel, which was. Was very fun.

Zibby Owens (21:49)

You've made me very hungry at times in this book as well. And the other thing I liked is you didn't have it start immediately. Like you didn't have Jo pass away and immediately have the book start coming. You gave her a buffer, and I think that's really important because the first couple months can often be just a whirlwind of I don't even know. She couldn't even focus. And so you gave just enough time for her to be like, not exactly getting on her feet, but enough that she could be even remotely open to this experience.

Libby Page (22:16)

Yeah. And I guess, you know, honestly, if you've been through that, you know, those initial months, I sort of felt like I don't necessarily want to re read that, but also, you know, this. I wanted this book to be a book about new beginnings ultimately. And I think, yeah, it was important, allowing enough time so that it feels realistic that actually she is at the stage where she's sort of having to think about what does life look like for me now without Jo and sort of looking ahead to the future.

Zibby Owens (22:42)

You have one passage where Tilly is extolling the virtues of a bookstore and talking about how a bookstore is not just a place for commerce. It is a place where people come together. It is where you come to find yourself and find other people. And it's basically like standing on a soapbox saying, like, why we need independent bookstores now more than ever and how essential they are to communities. And it literally brought tears to my eyes because it was this impassioned plea for the continuation of something that feels like it can be on its way out at times, or why is it so important? Isn't it just another shop? But it's not just another shop. So how do you. Is that how you feel about the bookstores and everything?

Libby Page (23:19)

Absolutely. Absolutely. I think I very much wanted this book to be a real love letter to books and bookstores and particularly independent bookstores. And booksellers. I think both, you know, as an author, I'm so conscious of the fact that it is the booksellers and librarians who are the people putting my books in the hands of readers. But also just as a reader and a human being. I think that, you know, that my local bookstore isn't just a shop like you say, it's somewhere that I go and to feel connected to other people. I think about when my son was first born and those kind of early newborn days when you're just figuring things out, you know, pushing the push chair and crashing into things. The first place I went was my local bookstore because I just wanted to be somewhere where I felt safe and kind of around like minded people and like I was out connecting with the world. Because I think in a bookstore, you know, you do feel like you're connected to the rest of the world because there are so many different voices and stories there. And I think that's so, so special and so important. And I think our, you know, towns and cities are so much poorer when we don't have those places in our community. So yeah, it was very much a conscious, conscious choice to kind of celebr the independent bookstores in particular that I think are real, really special places.

Zibby Owens (24:37)

Push chair. Is that what you call a stroller by the way?

Libby Page (24:39)

Oh, stroller, sorry, yes.

Zibby Owens (24:40)

I've never heard that before. It really is. Push chair. Oh my gosh. Sometimes push high chair, you know, with the food everywhere. But oh my gosh.

Libby Page (24:50)

So yes, a stroller.

Zibby Owens (24:50)

I wouldn't bassinets and push everything.

Libby Page (24:53)

Yeah.

Zibby Owens (24:54)

So this book, this is not yout First Rodeo. Can you tell me about becoming an author?

Libby Page (25:00)

So I have always wanted to be an author, sort of for as long as I can remember. I think as a child I was such an avid reader and I really remember a moment of sort of putting the dots together and thinking, oh, actually someone's written these books that I read and that that's an actual job. So ever since that moment, there was nothing else I wanted to do. I guess then I got a little bit older and realised it's not something that you just go out and kind of apply for. I'm going to apply for a role of author. It's kind of more complicated than that. So I studied journalism. I think I thought, okay, it's writing, but it's sort of more of a proper job. And so I did a bit of that, but found that actually writing every day, sort of in, you know, as a journalist I got home and then Was sort of burnt out and not really having that time for my creative writing, which was always my passion. So I worked in marketing for a while and kind of had a bit more headspace then to work on my own book. So worked on my debut novel the Lido, then published as Mornings with RoseMary in the US and yeah, since then I've been writing books and I now do a bit of coaching writers as well on writing their books, which is a nice full circle.

Zibby Owens (26:13)

Can you do a little catch up summary of your past books in case after this book, yeah, people want to go back and go read your whole backlist.

Libby Page (26:23)

So available in the US is the is Mornings with Rosemary, which is a cross generational friendship story about two women, one in her 80s and one in her 20s, who come together to try and save their local swimming pool from closure. And it's really a story of community and friendship. And then I've written before four other novels that are available in the uk. Again, themes of community and friendship are sort of very, very prominent in my work. And romance as well. I think it's always there. I'm a real romance reader so I do love a love story as well within my novels. So yeah, that's the kind of thing you would expect.

Zibby Owens (27:02)

You really nailed that anticipatory feeling which is often the best part before anything even happens. And you're wondering is it going to happen? Is it not? What would it be like?

Libby Page (27:12)

That's what I love to read, so I think that's what I enjoyed enjoy writing in this book.

Zibby Owens (27:16)

So who are some of the authors that you like to read?

Libby Page (27:19)

Oh, so many. I'm a big Emily Henry fan.

Zibby Owens (27:22)

Well, obviously

Libby Page (27:25)

I also love JoJo Moyes, David Nichols, I think authors who maybe have romance in there, but also, you know, kind of women's fiction that explores, you know, issues that women, women go through. I feel like I suddenly, I mean in this book, I should say I ment over 60 books. So I have the 12 books that Tilly receives. But then at the start of each month there are also these book recommendation lists. So there are lots of book recommendations in there. Although suddenly now I'm like, I can't think of any books. How is that, how is that possible?

Zibby Owens (27:58)

There are so many. It's also a love letter to Big Magic in here as well as with Gilbert, which I'm assuming came from you.

Libby Page (28:06)

Yes, I've read many times. It's like very, my copy is very tatty, which I think is the sign of a well loved book. When you've Kind of read it and underlined things and. And gone back to it many times. So, yeah, that's real.

Zibby Owens (28:18)

Are you doing anything creative with the stack of 12 books? Like, are you selling them anywhere? This the 12 that she gets?

Libby Page (28:26)

I haven't really thought of it. I'm in my local town. I'm doing an event where I'm giving away a copy of each one of each. Not actually a copy of each one, but a year of books through my local bookstore. So for local people, I'll be able to go in and choose, you know, or give. Tell the bookseller, you know, what books they love, and they'll get recommendations. So. So that's a little thing that I'm doing. But I definitely. I have the 12 books on my bookshelves at home. It feels very special to me to kind of have them all lined up there.

Zibby Owens (28:55)

Oh, my gosh. Well, I mean, the genius of it is that there was a reason why for Tilly. So it's not like these books would necessarily resonate for the average person, but you could. You could make it so that we all follow this path, because after grief, there is no clear path. You might as well follow someone else's. Yeah.

Libby Page (29:13)

And I guess it's. I like the idea of, you know, maybe people being inspired to do something similar as a gift or actually just, you know, turning to books as a source of sort of inspiration for what to do next. It was definitely a challenge choosing the 12 books, I bet. But a very fun. A very fun challenge.

Zibby Owens (29:32)

And the ones at the beginning of each chapter, too. I mean, how to narrow it down is so tough.

Libby Page (29:36)

Yeah, there are lots of real favorites in there. And I guess something that was important to me is I want the book to feel accessible. I didn't want it to be, you know, 12 literary classics that you have to have read to sort of get the references. So I would say that the titles of the book had to work really hard so that, you know, you can just read the title and know the intention behind the book and sort of what to expect from it, because, yeah, that was something that I thought was important. I want to feel like people could be inspired to go and read these books afterwards, but you certainly don't have to have read them in order to enjoy the book.

Zibby Owens (30:10)

Well, I'm so glad that this is coming out in the U.S. a few people, when I posted about it, were like, I'm so glad all you people in the US Are finally discovering Libby Page. I'm like, yay. So now we have our reading Cut out for us. Are you working on a new project now?

Libby Page (30:27)

Yes, so working on another book that will come out, I think 2028, continuing some similar themes, kind of bookishness and you know, love story. But yeah, definitely still in development, but having a lot of fun writing it.

Zibby Owens (30:41)

Okay, well, I hope that'll be a US release as well.

Libby Page (30:43)

Yes, yes, it will be.

Zibby Owens (30:44)

Okay, good, Excellent. Do you have advice for aspiring authors?

Libby Page (30:48)

Yes, I think for me one of the things that can be the biggest part barrier to someone wanting to write a book is self doubt. I think so often we get in our own way, you know, we feel like, why me? Who am I to write this novel? What if I can't do it? And I think that can stop you getting, you know, even getting through and sort of getting that first draft written. So I always tell writers that because I think sometimes you can feel like there's a reason, you know, you're doing something wrong because you have that self doubt. And at this stage I feel like, you know, I've met authors who've written 20 novels and they tell me they still feel exactly the same amount of self doubt. And it's really about just pushing through and doing it anyway. I'm a big believer in a messy first draft. You know, just get something down on the page, don't be too critical about it. Just sort of, yeah, keep going, going with it really. Because then you've got something that you, you can work with and I guess just writing from the heart. I mean, I think all my books, although they're very much fiction, the stories fictional, the characters are fictional, they do usually come from a real place, you know, something that feels emotionally true to me. And I think that's a really rich place to explore and hopefully means that those emotions come across and connect with readers because you're, you know, you're going to a real place within yourself. And I think that is a really, to me, that's why I write, you know, is to kind of process things and to, to really explore what it is like to be a human being. And I think that's such a great outlet to have in your life. So I think, yeah, just really drawing on the things that are important to you in your writing.

Zibby Owens (32:32)

Love that. How many times did you cry writing this book?

Libby Page (32:36)

Quite, quite a few times, honestly. And I still, yeah, there are still. I don't know, I think there's something about the concept of it that still gets me. I remember going and doing a bookshop tour in the uk, sort of pitching the concept to booksellers. And sometimes, as I was saying, I was kind of getting a bit tearful. You know, it's a very special book to me. It means a lot to me, and I hope that, that, you know, that emotion comes across, you know, and means that it will connect with readers. But as you said as well, you know, I always think it. I need to say it is. It is uplifting as well. You know, it's. I think. I can't promise it won't make you cry, but I hope it will kind of put you back together again and feel like a big, you know, hug at the end as well.

Zibby Owens (33:19)

Absolutely. Is your real name Elizabeth?

Libby Page (33:21)

Yes, it is.

Zibby Owens (33:22)

So it's mine. I feel like I get called Libby 8,000 times a day. Actually, someone just subscribed to my newsletter and was like, I can't get all the library books yet. And I was like, my name is Zibby. This is not Libby at the library yet.

Libby Page (33:35)

Well, I did. I must admit, I did feel like it's very cool, like Libby, Libby meets Zibby.

Zibby Owens (33:39)

Yeah, me too. I love it. Libby. Thank you so much. This book was beautiful. Every minute I spent reading it was a joy. Really a joy. And I just loved it. I really did. I finished it and I, like, held it like this and then fell asleep, which is the best. The best way to finish it.

Libby Page (33:56)

That's an honor to hear. So thank you so much for having me.

Zibby Owens (33:59)

It's my pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for listening to Totally Booked with Zibby, formerly Moms don't have Time to Read Books. If you loved the show, tell a friend, leave a review. Follow me on Instagram ibbeoens and spread the word. Thanks so much. Oh, and buy the books. When the flu is keeping you up at night, don't try to tough it out. Knock out your flu symptoms with NYQUIL Intense Flu. You got this. It provides powerful relief of your flu symptoms so you can sleep well through the night. NYQUIL Intense Flu. The nighttime sniffling, aching, aching fever. Best sleep with a flu medicine. Use as directed. Keep out of reach of children.

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Zibby Owens (34:54)

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