220. Greg Grippo & Justin Glaze: Fan favorites breakdown the Bachelor Legacy in 2025, utilizing their talents in art & comedy, and navigating the noise of social media

Summary

Trading Secrets Episode 220: Greg Grippo & Justin Glaze on Navigating Career Growth, Social Media Challenges, and Life After Bachelor Nation

Release Date: February 3, 2025

In Episode 220 of Trading Secrets, hosted by Jason Tartick from Audioboom Studios, listeners are treated to an engaging and insightful conversation with two beloved figures from Bachelor Nation—Greg Grippo and Justin Glaze. This episode delves deep into their professional trajectories, personal growth, the impact of social media dynamics, and their perspectives on the evolving landscape of reality television.

1. Reintroducing Greg and Justin

The episode kicks off with Jason welcoming back Greg and Justin, highlighting their continued success post-Bachelor Nation. Greg has been leveraging his acting background to create comedic content, while Justin has been expanding his artistic endeavors into creative content production.

• Jason Tartick [00:00]: "Today we are joined again by two fan favorites from Bachelor Nation, Greg Grippo and Justin Glaze."

2. Career Evolution and Content Creation

Jason explores how both Greg and Justin have evolved their careers through content creation. They discuss the surge in their online presence and the diversification of their content across platforms like TikTok and Instagram.

• Greg Grippo [05:46]: "I didn't have TikTok when I was on the show... I just started posting random stuff and it took off."

Justin shares his experience of scaling his creative projects, emphasizing the importance of consistency and authenticity in content creation.

• Justin Glaze [26:41]: "The goal is to beat 2024. It's about continuous growth and staying true to our creative visions."

3. The Impact of TikTok Shutdown

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the hypothetical shutdown of TikTok and its potential repercussions on their revenue streams. Both hosts reveal that TikTok currently accounts for approximately 25-30% of Justin’s income and 10-15% of Greg’s, underscoring the platform's critical role in their financial ecosystems.

• Justin Glaze [10:48]: "Maybe 25 to 30% of my revenue comes from TikTok. It’s a big impact."
• Greg Grippo [10:59]: "For me, it's about 10 to 15%. Not as significant, but still important."

They contemplate the future of brand partnerships and content syndication if TikTok were to disappear, highlighting the need for adaptability in digital marketing strategies.

4. Reflections on the Bachelor Franchise

Jason probes into Greg and Justin’s views on the current state of the Bachelor franchise from both a business and personal standpoint. They acknowledge the franchise's fluctuating popularity and discuss its influence on their personal lives and career choices.

• Justin Glaze [17:47]: "I think it's gone through ebbs and flows... Keeping things fresh would bode well for the franchise."
• Greg Grippo [12:58]: "If they called me to be the Bachelor, it would be a tough conversation. I'm extremely happy where I'm at."

Greg shares his past experience with a potential Bachelor role that was met with significant public backlash, revealing the pressures of public perception.

• Greg Grippo [15:28]: "There was a petition of a quarter million people that signed for me not to do it."

5. Personal Growth and Handling Public Scrutiny

The conversation shifts to personal development and coping mechanisms for handling fame and public criticism. Both Greg and Justin express their strategies for maintaining mental well-being amidst the pressures of being public figures.

• Greg Grippo [06:14]: "I don't give a [expletive] if people call my content cringe. I've learned to focus on what I enjoy."
• Justin Glaze [08:09]: "I treat negative comments as out of sight, out of mind. It’s about not letting random opinions deter me."

6. Financial Goals and Future Aspirations

Looking ahead, Greg and Justin outline their financial objectives and professional ambitions for 2025. Greg aims to purchase a house in Spring Lake, New Jersey, while Justin is focused on launching his own venture in the spirits industry.

• Greg Grippo [27:12]: "My goal is to be comfortable enough to buy a house in Spring Lake."
• Justin Glaze [34:29]: "I'm working on a project in the RTD (Ready-to-Drink) space, hoping to launch in Q1."

7. Advancing Comedy and Artistic Careers

Greg discusses his aspirations in comedy, including writing scripts and potentially performing stand-up in the future. Justin elaborates on his artistic pursuits, emphasizing continuous creativity and the desire to innovate within his field.

• Greg Grippo [28:08]: "I've been asked to do stand-up, but I need to get more seasoned first."
• Justin Glaze [34:37]: "I've been pouring a lot into my spirits project, aiming to make it elevated and convenient."

8. Trading Secrets: Words of Wisdom

As the episode concludes, Greg and Justin share their "Trading Secrets"—valuable life lessons that have guided their personal and professional journeys.

• Justin Glaze [51:25]: "Don't let the opinions of others deter you from pursuing what you want."
• Greg Grippo [51:33]: "Expressing gratitude has changed my life. Saying thank you every day helps me appreciate everything I have."

9. Closing Thoughts and Future Prospects

Jason wraps up the episode by commending Greg and Justin for their candidness and resilience. He underscores the importance of staying grounded and focused despite external pressures and uncertainties in the digital landscape.

• Jason Tartick [54:03]: "Greg and Justin, you guys are doing great. Your positivity and humor are inspiring. Thank you for being on Trading Secrets."

Notable Quotes:

• Justin Glaze [26:41]: "The goal is to beat 2024. It's about continuous growth and staying true to our creative visions."
• Greg Grippo [51:33]: "Expressing gratitude has changed my life. Saying thank you every day helps me appreciate everything I have."

Conclusion

Episode 220 of Trading Secrets offers a comprehensive look into the lives of Greg Grippo and Justin Glaze as they navigate post-reality TV fame, adapt to the shifting social media terrain, and pursue their creative passions. Their insights provide valuable lessons on resilience, adaptability, and the importance of staying true to oneself amidst external pressures.

For more content from Greg and Justin, you can follow them on their respective social media platforms:

• Greg Grippo: Instagram | TikTok
• Justin Glaze: Instagram | TikTok

Stay tuned to Trading Secrets for more in-depth conversations with experts and influencers uncovering the hidden strategies behind financial success and career growth.

Transcript

[Jason Tartick]

Foreign. Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today we are joined again by two fan favorites from Bachelor Nation, Greg Grippo and Justin Glaze. Last year we interviewed Greg and Justin separately, but today we have them together. A lot has changed for each of them, both personally and professionally. Greg has continued to leverage his acting background into comedic based content, while Justin has continued his artistic skills into creative content as well. You're laughing, huh? You're laughing at your own little resume here, Justin. Today we are going to discuss how content creation careers have taken off, how this tick tock shutdown would affect their careers, what else they are interested in pursuing next professionally. And maybe we'll dive into just a little bit of their personal lives. We're also here with Garnier fruit tea. So we have some cool stuff coming at the end. Wait till this segment. It's going to get unbelievable. But Justin and Greg, thank you guys for being here on Trading Secrets.

[Justin Glaze]

Appreciate you having.

[Greg Grippo]

Thank you for having us.

[Jason Tartick]

Last time I saw you, Justin, it was Disneyland. That's when we recorded that was the day I found out things weren't going to work in my favor in my last relationship.

[Justin Glaze]

Quite the roller coaster of a day.

[Jason Tartick]

That was a tough day and even a worse day after. But that was a fun podcast we recorded.

[Justin Glaze]

It was.

[Jason Tartick]

I feel like we got pretty lit in that podcast.

[Justin Glaze]

Sneakily.

[Jason Tartick]

Sneakily. Sneakily.

[Justin Glaze]

I was like trusting you with the edit there.

[David]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

Because we were letting it fly.

[Jason Tartick]

I feel like of all the people I had to edit that episode, I feel like I had to edit you the most.

[Justin Glaze]

I believe it.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, I was a little loose. Now, Greg, last time you were on the show was April. That was right after our book tour. I'm seeing a theme here. We hit it pretty good. We were a little hungover. But Andrew was with you.

[Greg Grippo]

Yes, he was.

[Jason Tartick]

I feel like last time when we did that episode, you and Andrew are like Batman and Robin with your content. But I feel like Justin's starting to come in a little bit. Where's Justin? Coming out. Justin, now Batman is. Andrew. You're the Joker.

[Justin Glaze]

No, Greg, no, they all call me the Joker. No, he.

[Jason Tartick]

He.

[Justin Glaze]

He goes through these phases where he, like, will try to get a nickname to stick.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

So for a while it's been Gatorade and it's so annoying. Oh, I. Gator, you self proclaim. This guy's mind is. I don't know where he gets him from, but he. He self proclaims himself. He's like, call me gator. And he says it so much. You get so annoyed that it starts to stick. It's. It sucks.

[Greg Grippo]

That's just Gator. When he come up with Gator, like, five months ago.

[Jason Tartick]

And what. What. What sparked that?

[Greg Grippo]

Well, all my friends in college, they all have, like, animal names. There's Skunk, there's Rabbit, there's Mouse, there's Bear. And then I was like, I'm Gator. And they're like, no, why? But why, though? I don't know. I just think it sounds cool and starts with a G, so it kind of makes sense for you.

[Jason Tartick]

You kind of chill and then bite hard. I can't tell, like, if you're doing a skit. Actually, I'm not. Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

With them, there were just a lot of signs that were coming up about a new nickname. There would always be, like, a joker card sitting on my travel bag or something. And I didn't know if that was planted there by one of them or somebody else trying to show me a sign, but I think this is, like, meaning something and why you left.

[Justin Glaze]

He's planting the car.

[Greg Grippo]

Don't believe him. It was happening for a couple of weeks, and we all, like, went to a couple places, like Chicago, and I think they visited me in New York. And we were in Chicago, we went out to a bar, and then we came back. I was like, oh, let's just order some Uber Eats, hang out. And all of a sudden, on the. I'm not kidding, on the Uber Eats package that we have was a joker card. This part, he's telling the truth, and.

[Justin Glaze]

That'S why I got annoying. So I was like, okay.

[Greg Grippo]

And after this was happening, and I was like, you think. You guys think I'm joking with this? You guys? You guys, it. This is. This has been a thing that's been going on for, like, the last year.

[Justin Glaze]

It did start to become true. Have you seen Joker, too?

[Jason Tartick]

No.

[Justin Glaze]

There's a scene.

[Jason Tartick]

I heard it wasn't good, though.

[Justin Glaze]

I agree. But even down to, like, you guys seen him? You've seen him dance, right?

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

He dances like the Joker.

[Jason Tartick]

Do you, like, when you're doing your skits, are those. Is that, like. Is that an act? Do you actually dance like that? Like, you're so goofy. It's so funny, but I can't tell if. Are you in, like, acting zone when you're doing that? Like, when you're just, like, floating around doing these, like. And you just sit there, like, moving your.

[Greg Grippo]

No.

[Jason Tartick]

Half going into character.

[Greg Grippo]

No. Half the time, I black out. Like, I. I let the music take me and I think that's the beauty of music is that it. The more you give in and let it take you, the beautiful things happen. And so I kind of just set up the phone and I turn on some good music that I vibe to and I don't really remember anything that goes on and then I'll wake up the next day and post it on Tick tock and I just have no idea what happened when.

[Jason Tartick]

When you. When I feel like your TikTok following is growing significantly engagements off the charts. Do you feel like it's Bachelor Nation that's following you or have you attracted like a younger audience because you had with Bachelor Nation. They called. What were the girls that. The grip.

[Justin Glaze]

Gripple girlies.

[Jason Tartick]

Grippo Girls with TikTok. Do you like? Is it a whole new world that you're like venturing out to?

[Greg Grippo]

But it's interesting. I didn't have TikTok when I was on the show and then we would just use Andrew's TikTok. It was about for a solid year where I didn't have a TikTok.

[Jason Tartick]

Why?

[Greg Grippo]

I don't know. I just, I just, I just didn't want to download TikTok and I just didn't care to post on it. And all of a sudden like I think that we were in LA and it was so. It was about a year after we filmed and I was like, screw it, like I'm just going to mess around with this. And I didn't take it too seriously and I just like was like posting random stuff and I think I was always self conscious in the beginning about like what I was going to post and then.

[Jason Tartick]

Are you now at all self conscious? Yeah, because like I see 90 when I look at your video. I love your videos.

[Greg Grippo]

Thank you.

[Jason Tartick]

Because I, I truly always laugh like I think they're funny and I'll. And I'll go to the comments and 95 of people are like laughing their ass off. Then there's 5% of people are like, oh my God, so cringe. I'm like, they're so dumb. They just don't get it. They don't get it.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Like when you do those videos, do you worry at all about that like cringe factor or you just like step into the crib?

[Greg Grippo]

No, I really don't give a anymore. I think that I've TR to at least in my own life and like I think that I've tried to deal with this personally is that like I don't want people doing that to me. So like I think I'VE always found myself throughout life, always cycling through, like, a judgment of, like, somebody else. If I saw them online and I think I've developed just like, not, yuck, somebody else's yum.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

Or just like, they let them. Or just like, let them live the way they want to live. And so, like, I feel like that's brought a lot of peace to me. Is that, like, I don't give a shit if, like, this person is commenting. Cringe, like, I don't. I really don't care.

[Jason Tartick]

This type of mentality and just want to get your take on this, too. I find that when I talk to people that come out of the Bachelor franchise year one, oh, my God, like, there's so everything and everything. Like, you could even, like, I could think about people that are coming off right now and they're so sensitive. Everything. And then like, year two, they're like. And then year three, and then there's fudge it. Like, it is what it is. Yeah, Let them talk shit. I'm going to be who I am. Do you feel both you guys have become, like, a little bit numb or even, like, thick skin to just all the constant criticism? And obviously there's so much all ever. All of us have people that support us. We also get little chirps here and there. How have you dealt with that?

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah, I mean, from like a regular, I guess, viewer, fan, whatever, whoever is watching the video standpoint. I mean, it affects everyone, right? Like, you're lying if you say you don't look at the comments and whatever. But I never really cared as much about, like, random people's opinions. I think being on the show helped to kind of develop that callous. Like, beforehand, I probably would have cared a lot more, but for me personally, it's more so, like, I treat it as like an out of sight, out of mind type of thing. Like, I'll post something and just not look at my phone. But then if I see certain people, like family members or friends or whatever that have viewed it, then you start to make the connection of like, oh, my gosh, like water. What is this specific person thinking about what I just posted?

[Jason Tartick]

Right. Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

And so I try to avoid that, but I actually recently had a couple of conversations. My. My college president was like my biggest mentor, and he's the one who kind of got me into the whole financial route, you know, working at the investment firm that I was at for a long time and really took me under his wing in college and has been a really good mentor. He's a super you know, impressive guy. Yeah. And over the years, kind of have not kept up as much communication, but still, you know, the check ins, birthdays, how you doing? Sure, you know, progress, check ins, all that stuff. And recently I didn't even know he had a TikTok, but it was something I made at Disney and he sent it to me and he was like, hey, like, is this really you? And then he sent like this whole long thing. He was like, you're creative and you're clearly like good at the social media stuff, but I just want to make sure that you're not losing sight of your future and this and that. I kind of took a second to process it and I shared it with my parents. And again, like, he's a super impressive guy, but he's, he's like, I mean, I'll never forget, he's, I think in his 70s. And I was meeting with him in his office one day and he was like, wait a second, Justin. And out comes this little French guy. And I was like, oh, Doc, who's that? He's like, oh, I just decided to pick up French, you know what I mean? This guy graduated from college at the age of like 19, you know what I mean? Just like one of times 100 most influential people in the world a couple years back.

[Jason Tartick]

So you have someone you respect, that's an intellect, that's like sharp in your career, but.

[Justin Glaze]

Exactly. And so I've had to kind of, you know, understand like not everyone understands like what we do. Right. So even for my parents, when I made the decision to leave finance, Right. And kind of pursue this type of stuff, it wasn't until they could kind of see tangible proof that it was you could be successful. Because it wasn't in their generation to be a career path. Right, Totally. So for those type of people, I have to kind of understand, hey, it's not so much of like a judgment on or reflection of like what I'm doing, but maybe just not understanding. So, okay, that was a long winded way of just, I don't know.

[Jason Tartick]

No, interesting. I mean, it's a, it's a career that's changing constantly since you guys have been on. It's changed a lot. People always ask me, like, how much your revenue came from tick tock and how does the tick tock ban impact your business? So I'll ask each of that, like, how has tick tock revenue been for you and how will it impact your business?

[Justin Glaze]

Honestly, I think a lot of stuff that I end up doing partnership wise on Tick tock is like syndicated from Instagram. Like it starts with Instagram and then brands don't want it on Tick Tock as well. So you know, I'll get some that are specifically for Tick Tock, but give me a percentage.

[Jason Tartick]

10, 20, 30.

[Justin Glaze]

Like they're straight up TikTok or with.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, like indication. Look at all your revenue last year from Creator Economy. How much of TikTok revenue is generated from that?

[Justin Glaze]

Maybe 25 to 30%.

[Jason Tartick]

So that's a big impact. Yeah. Greg, how about you?

[Greg Grippo]

I was gonna say probably because. Yeah, most of my stuff is also syndicated through Instagram.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

But like if it's just TikTok, it's honestly not that many. I would, I would say probably like 10 to 15%.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay. So it doesn't have as, as significant of an impact.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

What's interesting business wise for everyone listening, a lot of the contracts we're seeing, what they're doing is if you have a deal in place right now and it's supposed to be syndicated to Tick Tock, so you're supposed to do a reel and a Tick Tock. What's going to happen if TikTok is fully down and out is you'll actually have to do a reel. So it'll be two reels. Could, that could impact like structured deals when you look at like the value and, and all that. So we'll see what happens with it. Greg, a little State of the Union. Last time you were on the show, you talked over 400,000 bucks. You're making off Creator Economy. How did it look in 2024?

[Greg Grippo]

It looked great.

[Jason Tartick]

Better.

[Greg Grippo]

I mean, you know.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, I mean it was two times better.

[Greg Grippo]

I'm having fun. What I'm doing numbers getting so big.

[Jason Tartick]

He doesn't want to talk about it.

[Greg Grippo]

I'm just, I'm having fun. I'm, I'm extremely grateful.

[Jason Tartick]

Was 2024 your best year yet?

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, by a long shot.

[Greg Grippo]

It was, it was, it was a good year.

[Jason Tartick]

It was a good year.

[Greg Grippo]

It was, it's good.

[Jason Tartick]

Justin, you're on the show 2021. You go on paradise. 2024, you're, you're really, really finding your lane with the work you're doing with the artistic work and your skits and your editing. Was 2024 your best year yet?

[Justin Glaze]

It was.

[Jason Tartick]

By how much? Over 2023. 2 x 3 x 4 x like.

[Justin Glaze]

3 1/2 x 3 1/2 x.

[Jason Tartick]

You had 350 of what you did in 2023.

[Greg Grippo]

Dinner's on you tonight.

[Jason Tartick]

Damn, that's unbelievable.

[Justin Glaze]

What if I only made 20 in 2023? Okay, I'm kidding.

[Jason Tartick]

All right. But it was so like, let's. I want to quickly talk about your take on reality tv, and then I want to talk about what you guys think is next for you. But let's just talk about. Let's just get this. You guys are Bachelor alumni. Reality TV is all over the place right now. State of the Union, your opinion on the business of the Bachelor. We had Golden Bachelor. We had Joey season. We had Bachelorette. We're now going into Grant season. What do you just think about the state of the union of the Bachelor from a business perspective? Greg, what do you got? You watching the show?

[Greg Grippo]

No, not at all. No, I. I tuned in for a couple episodes of Joey's just because I feel like everyone was talking about it. I feel like they really did a good job.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

Of promoting Joey's season. I mean, I'm sure I'll tune in for an episode two of Grants, but I just really haven't really kept up with it. I'm not a big week after week guy with shows to, like, be able to sit down and watch. I like, just binge watch whatever's on Netflix or Hulu. So maybe after the season ends for Grants, I'll watch it all.

[Jason Tartick]

All right. If they called you to be the Bachelor, would you make that career move?

[Greg Grippo]

They wouldn't call me to be the Bachelor.

[Jason Tartick]

But if they did.

[Greg Grippo]

But if they did, I mean, that'd be tough. That would really be a tough conversation. I mean, I think that. I think I'm at a point in my life where I'm extremely happy where I'm at. Especially, like, Justin's giving you looks.

[Jason Tartick]

He's doing the standard looks. What are your looks saying right now?

[Justin Glaze]

I would just.

[Jason Tartick]

You're the king of looks. What were those eyes?

[Greg Grippo]

Go ahead, spill the beans.

[Jason Tartick]

What were you thinking? You think he's full of. No. No. You like his answer?

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay, so then why. I think he would.

[Justin Glaze]

I think. I think he would make a great lead.

[Greg Grippo]

If.

[Justin Glaze]

I think he's underselling himself. I think that he could get a.

[Jason Tartick]

I think he could.

[Justin Glaze]

I think he could get a call.

[Jason Tartick]

Wait, why are you so certain that they wouldn't call you? I. I think if you look at, like. I think, like, you're probably top contender of alumni.

[Greg Grippo]

I mean, it's been years at this point. I just.

[Jason Tartick]

Next year, he doesn't matter. Old. I'm, like, losing my hair. Garnier got the thickening spray here.

[Justin Glaze]

What if they did, like, a bronze Bachelor.

[Jason Tartick]

A bronze Bachelor.

[Justin Glaze]

Not quite golden.

[Greg Grippo]

Like, not quite golden.

[Justin Glaze]

Not quite golden.

[Jason Tartick]

Not quite golden. That'd be a perfect.

[Justin Glaze]

Would you do it?

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, I would do it. Yeah. Why not do it? But once upon a time, they did call you to do the Bachelor, and, like, you're. It was like you were there.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah. I mean, did you sign paperwork?

[Jason Tartick]

I'm in killer mode right now.

[Greg Grippo]

Now.

[Jason Tartick]

You are.

[Greg Grippo]

You are. You are in killer mode right now.

[Jason Tartick]

Paperwork.

[Greg Grippo]

No, I. After the season ended, I legit need take a step back. And I remember going on Nick's podcast, and I was like. He asked me if, like, oh, if I was interested. And I. And I told him straight up, no, I think Andrew would make a great one. Michael. A. I think is in a great place to be one. And then they gave me a call like, a week or two after about it, and I was open with them about where I was at in life. I really didn't feel great about everything because after the show ended, I just felt like I was. It was just a dark time, just in general. And then. Yeah, then somehow it came out that I was about to be it, which wasn't true.

[Jason Tartick]

Interesting.

[Greg Grippo]

And then there was, like, a petition of, like, a quarter million people that signed for me not to do it.

[Jason Tartick]

No way, actually.

[Greg Grippo]

And I was like, I can't do. I don't want anything to do with this.

[Jason Tartick]

Wait, seriously?

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, it was.

[Jason Tartick]

I bet you there's a quarter million people that also wanted you to do it.

[Greg Grippo]

Well, they were.

[Justin Glaze]

More than that. More than that.

[Greg Grippo]

I mean, it just.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, more than that.

[Greg Grippo]

It just. It just felt like a scary time. I. There just felt like so many, like, opinions. I feel like I was actually taking everyone to heart during that time. And I just. I really. And they saw it too. Like, I was being open about, like, how much I felt like everything was bothering me. And, like, I didn't really feel like I was in a good space to.

[Justin Glaze]

Be a lead at.

[Jason Tartick]

So that was 2021. Have they. Since then, have they called you to do paradise or go back on the show in any capacity?

[Greg Grippo]

No, nothing. Okay. I haven't seen them at all. I saw. It was interesting. I saw. I don't know if I could say his name, but I saw one of the head producers on a flight randomly.

[Jason Tartick]

Really?

[Greg Grippo]

Two months ago. It was the most random thing.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay. He's like, what's up, Grippo? Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

I haven't seen you in a while.

[Jason Tartick]

Triggered.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

No, seriously.

[Greg Grippo]

Fight or flight?

[Jason Tartick]

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[Justin Glaze]

You know, I think it's gone through ebbs and flows the past couple seasons. Like, I think they had really, really good momentum. I think the franchise was kind of in a dip and then I think Joey season really propelled the franchise and I think they had so much potential and then I think it kind of plateaued a little bit. And I don't know, I think there's a lot of factors that have played into that. I think they've got a really good thing going with the golden stuff. I hope they do like a golden paradise. I think, I think just like keeping things fresh would bode well for the franchise.

[Jason Tartick]

Like what do you, what's, what's fresh?

[Justin Glaze]

I mean, I think, I think the seasons can tend to be like a little copy and paste.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Justin Glaze]

In terms of like the structure and like the dates and you know, I think people are starting to catch on.

[Jason Tartick]

To, you know, it's coming before it comes.

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jason Tartick]

All right. After your run on paradise, did they ever reach out to you to do anything else with the show, like outside of podcasts? Yeah, yeah. It's like, did NZK or ABC reach out to you to do anything?

[Justin Glaze]

No.

[Jason Tartick]

No. Okay. If you ever, like, I'm just curious, like, just paint a picture. Imagine a world in which you are single. Like, would you ever have interest in being the Bachelor or going back on paradise if you were.

[Justin Glaze]

You wouldn't catch me. You wouldn't. You would not catch my toes in.

[Jason Tartick]

That sand ever again. No. Never.

[Justin Glaze]

No.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay. It feels like career wise, both you two are spinning off and you're trying to move away from Bachelor Nation. Is that correct? Because it feels like your brands are moving in totally directions. You guys don't say, you don't do podcasts with the show. You don't, you don't do content about the show. You don't really. I mean, the one thing, the only way you two are still tied, I would say to the show. Well, past relationships and whatever, personal, current, past all the things. And your friend group. Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah. I mean, I think that that is the beauty of our friendship though is that like we never, it was never for the show or for, I don't know, just like to gain each other's like following or views or anything. Like, we legit friendship, we legit hang out and so like we don't rely on it. I don't, I don't care to post about the show on my social media at all or do anything like that. And yeah, neither does he, really. And. Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

All right, I got a statement for you.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

You die a hero, you live long enough to become a villain. Do you feel as though that statement bolds true with we're all guys from the franchise. Men from the franchise. Go ahead. You guys are a little nervous. Come on. This is, I mean, now that you're off the show, this is how you got to get this.

[Justin Glaze]

Just for men.

[Jason Tartick]

No, no, I'm saying, like, listen, we're all a men alumni from the show, so I guess it could just. So your opinion.

[Justin Glaze]

No, here's.

[Jason Tartick]

I could apply it to anybody. It's a gender neutral.

[Justin Glaze]

No, but I think this. And I don't. I'm skating around your question. I disagree.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Justin Glaze]

I disagree. I think, I just think with social media in general, in today's day and age, whether you come from a TV show or not, if you are in, if you are public facing, I think the more success you have, the less wiggle room you have to kind of slip up.

[Jason Tartick]

Right?

[Justin Glaze]

Because I feel like people are always waiting for something to go wrong to kind of tear you down. Right? Like people will switch on you like that, so I always try to like not get too high and not get too low and kind of just stay in the middle because it's like the minute you get too high, you'll come crashing. You'll come crashing down in the middle that you find validity. And the negative comments that people are making, you lose sight of who you are. Right. And so interesting.

[Jason Tartick]

Greg, what do you think?

[Greg Grippo]

I think it's tough in this day and age to just be a hero. I don't really think that you can't be everyone's fan. Like you're always gonna find somebody who's against you. I think, no matter what. I mean, Joey, for instance, I think that he was, I don't know, he.

[Jason Tartick]

Might always be a hero.

[Greg Grippo]

But I'm saying, I'm saying like, I.

[Jason Tartick]

Think he's an anomaly.

[Greg Grippo]

I, I don't, I don't know if there will be like another bachelor like Joey.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

Like Joey was. I think that he is a great looking dude. Honest, like everyone loved him. But then like I go on TikTok the other day and I see somebody kind of talking and I'm just like, that's true. And I'm just like, there's always going to be something. I think that there's always going to be something. No matter what, you'll always find that.

[Jason Tartick]

Little bit that's part of this industry. It's tough. There's always noise. Another part of this industry is consistent cash flow. We talk about sometimes they're one post, sometimes they're one month, sometimes they're two months. But I think it's fair to say in any one of my businesses, whether it's podcasting or it's my creator space, when I look at January 2026, there's not one guaranteed dollar that comes in the door like in the next three, six months. Yeah. But it's, that's tough. Do you find that to be tough in this business, like understanding what your cash flows are and the sustainability of it?

[Greg Grippo]

You mean like when you're starting a new year. Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Like 2025 is here, right?

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

And, and revenue for both you guys and myself comes from brand opportunities.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

And so the idea of if the brand opportunities, they're not two five year deals, right?

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

I don't know if you guys have any two five year deals, but does that worry you at all that, like the inconsistency of potential?

[Greg Grippo]

I kind of feel it. It feels invigorating, to be honest with you.

[Jason Tartick]

You like it?

[Greg Grippo]

I kind of do. I just, I think that I don't like being complacent. And like, I, I also wouldn't care if I had to, if say this didn't work out.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

All right, then so be it. I have to get a 9 to 5 somewhere.

[Jason Tartick]

But you were insurance sales. You're not going back there.

[Greg Grippo]

I'm not going to insurance. But hell, like, before I was marketing for documentary, I was ubering. I was fit modeling, I was, I was bartending, I was bar backing, I was doing anything I could to make a dollar. And I'm just, I. I'm just, I'm grateful to be in the place where I'm at right now and to be having fun, like, doing it. So I mean, I'm gonna try to continue to grow and contribute, continue to do the best I can in this business. But other than that, I mean, like, my dad was a hard working guy. I mean, he stocked shelves for his whole entire life. Like, I'm not above that.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

I don't think, you know, so it's just, it's pure. Whatever happens, happens. Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah. You have a very Zen mentality.

[Greg Grippo]

Thank you. Yeah, it took. Took me a lot to even get a little zen, but I appreciate it.

[Jason Tartick]

I feel like you do. I feel like you do. All right, I want to ask you, we're talking about business. I want to talk about personal stuff for a little. And I won't get too deep. Don't start sweating yet. But from a personal standpoint, none of us are married, single. Single. None of us are married, no kids. Do you think if you hadn't gone on the show that your relationship status would be a little bit different? Do you think going on the show has advanced things professionally like you had said, but maybe personally put you in different positions of where you might be married with kids, doing something else?

[Justin Glaze]

Justin, it's really hard to predict that, you know, like, who knows? I mean, I know I wouldn't be doing this social media stuff if I wasn't on the show.

[Jason Tartick]

Right.

[Justin Glaze]

Like, that's probably the only guarantee I'd. I'm sure my life would have a lot more structure and stability, but I think.

[Jason Tartick]

Do you think you'd be married right now?

[Justin Glaze]

I don't know. I don't know. Like, you know, I'd probably still be in Baltimore. I'd probably still be doing the same things that I was doing every day up until the show. Right. But I'm so fortunate for the opportunities that the show has presented, post going on. Right. You know, the network that you build, the traveling and just opening the doors to so many options that I didn't even know existed in every facet of life. So I don't know, it's hard to say.

[Jason Tartick]

I'll give you my opinion. I think I'd be married with kids right now.

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

And I think when the first time I heard someone talk about this was Tyler Cameron when he said like the show delayed my life by 10 years, I don't think that's. I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing, but I think with this type of work, in this type of industry, you're constantly being, you're sent here, you're going here, you're going here. So to create like a foundation, stability of like going that direction's harder for sure. That's my opinion, Greg.

[Greg Grippo]

I mean, that's tough to say because most of my best friends from school are all either in a long term relationship right now.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

Married, engaged, or have kids. They're all like, they're all with someone serious. Son. I'm one of two out of the ten that are single right now.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

So, I mean. Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

How does that make you feel like when you think about that? Oh, I mean, you feel like you're behind it all or do you like, no, this is my path?

[Greg Grippo]

No, I mean, I will say sometimes you're like, ah, I hope I find somebody soon, you know, But I'm also not trying to put too much pressure on it because I think throughout life I have looked for that. And I do think that this past year or so is the first time where I'm not putting pressure on my relationship status or putting pressure on finding someone. And I feel like that's also gonna bring the right person in for me.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah. Okay. All right, good answers, guys. Good answers. 2025 financial goals. What do you got finance guy to be?

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah, I mean, I think you're just like Greg said. I don't think any of us are complacent, guys. So the goal is to, to beat 2024. I mean, that's the goal. Right. But if that doesn't happen, I'd still be grateful because do you think you're.

[Jason Tartick]

On the path to do that?

[Justin Glaze]

It's quite early, but I think so. Okay. 18. What, what day is it? 17 days in when you just, you.

[Jason Tartick]

Think you're in a better position as of now?

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay, great. 2025 goals.

[Greg Grippo]

To be in a position where I feel comfortable enough to buy a house.

[Jason Tartick]

Where do you want to buy a house?

[Greg Grippo]

That's the hard part. I'm not too sure I I a dream, no matter what is for me to whether I treat it like a summer house.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

Hopefully, or my full time living situation. Like, I do hope to have a house in like the Spring Lake area in New Jersey.

[Jason Tartick]

So 2025, you want to get a house? This is the year.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah. I mean, I've been holding back on like buying a car and stuff specifically for that reason because like I want to invest in property.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

All right. So that's the financial goal. All right. We're going to, we're going to increase our revenue. We're going to buy a house. We'll come back to that. All right, talk to me about. Now we got the comedy guy back. Talk to me about how do you advance your comedy career? Career. Like so you're doing skits right now?

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Are you talking to other agencies? Are you thinking about TV shows? Are you like, what do you, how do you navigate the career of trying to be commute? Do you go into stand up? Like, what do you do next? I just laugh.

[Justin Glaze]

I would love that.

[Greg Grippo]

I got asked a few times to do stand up. I just, I actually, I don't feel confident enough yet.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

That I could do stand up. I think maybe a little bit more season under my belt. I need to get more seasoned first.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

In order to feel confident enough to get up there. But I mean, it was so fun. I think I love like writing. I love writing. I love writing skits and I love writing things of that nature. And I always had a dream to at least like write this script that I feel like I've just started dabbling in and like. Yeah. And like a lot of my inspiration just like I like writing everything down. Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of night and I'll start like working on it.

[Jason Tartick]

It.

[Greg Grippo]

And that's been like you wake up.

[Jason Tartick]

Middle nights are writing.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

You're trying to write what, like a film?

[Greg Grippo]

No, not a film. Or skits. Both. Both? Yeah.

[David]

I don't know.

[Greg Grippo]

I don't know why I wake up in the middle of night to do that, but it usually happens in the middle of night, like 3:00am, 4:00am where like I'll like, it's either like I'll like have a dream or like I feel like my mind is maybe at like this state where I'm not thinking about anything else. And maybe like, like it's like I'm not a scientist but maybe it's like a different part of my brain that's just like on or that I'm accessing, like, for creativeness, maybe. And I. I feel like most of my ideas come in the middle of night.

[Jason Tartick]

How do you. Like, how do you. How do comedians come up with skits? Like, do you find something relatable that happens? Like, what's your. Like, how do you come up with.

[Greg Grippo]

It's through. It's through other. I see it through other people. Like last night when we were with Pete.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

I was like, dude, I gotta hang out with you more because he gave you comedy. He is a piece of work, man. No, he's a piece of work.

[Jason Tartick]

Are you kidding me?

[Greg Grippo]

You hang out with Pete and feel like you can get, like, I don't know, 10 skits out of hanging out.

[Jason Tartick]

What is one thing from last night that Pete gave you content for?

[Greg Grippo]

I mean, he's like a Walmart. He's like a walking Walmart. You know, Hallmark. What I say Walmart.

[Jason Tartick]

Walmart. You think he's. You think he's a Walmart version of Hallmark?

[Greg Grippo]

No, no. What I say Walmart.

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah, Walmart.

[Greg Grippo]

I said walking Hallmark. A walking Hallmark. Like, you know, stud that you see in the movies that, like, you know, it's like, oh, I'm back from the big city. You know, where have you been? Georgia.

[Jason Tartick]

I find him to be like a golden dood. No, he is like a golden doodle.

[Greg Grippo]

He is. But he has such a pure heart.

[Jason Tartick]

Pure heart.

[Greg Grippo]

He is such a pure heart. I've only hung out with him a number of times, but it's just like. It's so pure that it could do well in comedy.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay, so you get it through other people then. That's interesting. All right. All right. Good stuff. All right, boys, I want to think about this. Say this is a Jim Carrey exercise. It's 2025. I want you to look into 2027, the trajectory of your career. You're doing your. Your content, your artist work. You're getting into comedy. 2027, you have a blank check, and this is how much you want to earn in 2027, two years from now. Blank check. You write that number, you put it in your wallet, and you want to manifest it. It could be any amount in the world, but you're like, this is what I'm going to do in 2027. Think about it then. Justin, we're calling you. Don't give me some. I want to hear a number. 2027, blank check. You want to manifest it. You want to believe it. You're saying right here how much you're making. Don't Change your number. By the way, this is the total amount you're going to make this year. 2027. It could be any amount. What do you think? Go manifest it. Believe it. Go say it to believe it.

[Justin Glaze]

2027.27.

[Jason Tartick]

Greg, you got your number.

[Greg Grippo]

No, I mean, I. I keep on thinking I could do a lot with like, $10 million.

[Jason Tartick]

There we go. That's a good answer. 10 million in 2027. What are you doing?

[Justin Glaze]

Okay.

[Jason Tartick]

What was your initial thought before you said it?

[Justin Glaze]

I was gonna say a million.

[Jason Tartick]

That's great. And I think that what's interesting is, like, how did you start thinking higher when he said 10 million?

[Justin Glaze]

No, you did. I was still a little confused with, like, if I had this much money, what could I do with it? Or versus how much do I want to make that 2027?

[Jason Tartick]

How much you want to make? You're writing a check for how much you make your goal.

[Justin Glaze]

I keep my answer.

[Greg Grippo]

Oh, that's okay. I mean, that's not. I mean, you're going Will Ferrell style. I don't know if I'm not gonna make $10 million, but. But I mean, hell yeah. Hell yeah, I'd like to.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay. All right. Maybe it comes to fruition.

[Greg Grippo]

Maybe.

[Jason Tartick]

Are there any agents out there? Are there any, like, people in the comedy world that have kind of like, knocked at your door being like, well, you got something?

[Greg Grippo]

You mean, like agencies, like, for. I mean, yeah, I've spoken to an agency for that sort of thing. And I had a meeting out in LA with them and it was a great meeting. I mean, it was like my first ever meeting like that. I was actually. I was actually pretty nervous walking into it because I was like, you know, 24 year old me or 25 year old me would be shitting his pants. I used to be bad in settings like that. I used to sit across a table with a girl.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

If, like, I was really into her. I was. When I was like, in my mid-20s.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

Oh, my God. So there would always be like this thing that I would do and not, like, it would just be like something in my body, like. And I would be like, having to like, cheers with them. And like, I'd be like, hey, nice meeting you. Or like, or like, like happy first date or something. And I'd be like shaking, like trembling on the way back.

[Jason Tartick]

Wait, no.

[Greg Grippo]

And I'd be like, I'd be so nervous, it'd be taking over me. And, like, I wait for her to, like, look away and I was like, I have to Take a sip, but I'm gonna spill it. And so I'd like, take like the bottom of my hand, like, do this. Anyway, I wasn't that nervous, but I felt like a small. A small bit of me was like, I hope I don't get that nervous. And, like, I hope they don't have.

[Jason Tartick]

Like a cup of water there that.

[Greg Grippo]

I have to drink.

[Jason Tartick]

What's the last day you were on that? That happened.

[Greg Grippo]

But when did that happen? It honestly has been years. What's that?

[Jason Tartick]

Years?

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah. But it. It used to happen all the time.

[Jason Tartick]

Interesting.

[Greg Grippo]

Used to happen all the time. I was really nervous. I was a. I was just like a walking bag of anxiety.

[Jason Tartick]

I do feel like if you're comedian, you're like, on stage or you're acting, you can't, like, can't. You can't have.

[Justin Glaze]

Like there's so many people that are funny, like on stage or, like behind a camera or in front of a camera. But then, like, in interpersonal settings, it's like they're weird.

[David]

Weird.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

Or not weird, but, like, not.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

A little bit more reserved.

[Jason Tartick]

Some of the best actors in the world go on Jimmy Kimmel and they're freaking out. They can't even, like, they're. They don't know how to.

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah, I feel like that happened. I feel like.

[Jason Tartick]

But then they could be on the biggest stage.

[Justin Glaze]

Right.

[Jason Tartick]

Justin, your career, where do you go from here? What's next?

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah, I'm gonna keep creating. I'm gonna keep doing my art stuff. And then for the past couple years, I've been working on an exciting project. I do a lot of stuff in the spirits industry.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

I don't think that's any secret, but I've been working on something in that industry that I can call my own. So I've been pouring a lot into that.

[Jason Tartick]

The past. You might launch a business of some sort.

[Justin Glaze]

Yes.

[Jason Tartick]

Wow. When will we know more about this?

[Justin Glaze]

Hopefully in Q1. Hopefully very soon.

[Jason Tartick]

Talk money here. Can you tell us how much you've invested into this project? We don't know what the project is. Can you tell us how much you've invested?

[Justin Glaze]

I've just self funded it thus far.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Justin Glaze]

With plans to seek, you know, funding. Funding and subsequent.

[Jason Tartick]

How much have you put into it?

[Justin Glaze]

I've put about 80 into it.

[Jason Tartick]

80 into it.

[Greg Grippo]

Nice.

[Jason Tartick]

All right, congratulations. When it launches, let's go get us. You'll come on the podcast and you want to tell us anything more about it or you just want to hold it there?

[Justin Glaze]

I mean, I'LL say it's in the. In the RTD space. The ready to drink.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Justin Glaze]

Space. So trying to make things elevated and convenient for people.

[Jason Tartick]

All right.

[Greg Grippo]

Hell yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Good stuff. Well, you guys both have have big career upside coming here. Million bucks for you in 2027. 10 million for Will Pharaoh 2.0 over here.

[Greg Grippo]

Make y'all eat your shorts.

[Jason Tartick]

What you say?

[Justin Glaze]

We never doubted you.

[Jason Tartick]

Oh, yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

We never doubted.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah. Not for a second. And you know what? Maybe 2027 is the year that you become the Bachelor.

[Justin Glaze]

I could see that that would be. I could see that.

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[Justin Glaze]

Do you think you would still. Do you think, okay, so your personality on the show. Personality directly. Look at me asking the question.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

Is that okay? Your personality on the show. Personality directly post show. Just because, like, I. I've been around you, right. Do you think if you were to be the lead in the future, do you think you would kind of go back to that more reserved personality? Or do you think you would show up as, like, who I know you as?

[Greg Grippo]

No, I mean, dude, we did the season and they didn't show any of my moments that, like, I feel like we had, like, I feel like even at the moment they show the rose ceremony. Like, I would do it every single time.

[Jason Tartick]

And do what?

[Justin Glaze]

He's not lying about, like, randomly writing stuff. So we would be, like, prepping for a rose ceremony. Everyone's, like, scattered throughout. And then he could be in. He would be in a different room, and he would just. You would just hear a voice. He'd be like, come now. And we're like, oh, it's great. It's Gregory James. And that was. That was his poet name. Gregory James.

[Greg Grippo]

Gregory James.

[Jason Tartick]

How many names do you have? Gator, Gregory James, Joker, Joker, G Baby.

[Greg Grippo]

G Baby.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Justin Glaze]

So, yeah, G Wiz. G Whiz is his rapper name.

[Jason Tartick]

Can you rap? Do you do a freestyle right now? Rhyme with beer.

[Greg Grippo]

I. I.

[Jason Tartick]

Rhyme with Reed.

[Greg Grippo]

Reed, yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Rhyme with Bill.

[Justin Glaze]

Bill, yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

I'm not doing this right. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't.

[Jason Tartick]

Give us one.

[Greg Grippo]

I can't.

[Jason Tartick]

You're a poet.

[Greg Grippo]

You're Gregory J. I know, I know. I could, like, I could. I could do a poem for you probably.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, do a poem for me.

[Greg Grippo]

Okay. What do you want to. What do you want me to write a poem about?

[Jason Tartick]

Whatever your heart's feeling about.

[Greg Grippo]

Sunset winds. All right. Sunset Wins by Gregory James. There's a time and place for everything. I walk around in life with great aware. Until my brother Joe got attacked by a giant bear. We walk in life with great mystery. I don't really like history. Was that Willie Mays? I hope so. Sunset Wins by Gregory James.

[Jason Tartick]

Oh, my God, you are talented.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah. That 10 million for sure. 100. So he's in the bachelor mansion and you hear him saying, come now.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

And so we would just turn Gregory James doing.

[Justin Glaze]

Now that he's proven usually sitting crisscross applesauce like this in like his. He has no cartilage or bones in his legs, so they're just like the way they can fold is crazy.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Justin Glaze]

And so he's like folded up in a corner and he's got a pen paper. And then he'll tell us, close your eyes.

[Greg Grippo]

And he won't have to close.

[Justin Glaze]

And he won't start until we.

[Jason Tartick]

To everybody.

[Justin Glaze]

Well, it would usually just be a couple people that would. That would come.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

So.

[Justin Glaze]

So we would come and close your eyes. So we'd have to close our eyes and he would recite a poem and then we would just walk off.

[Jason Tartick]

What'd you do with it? What was.

[Greg Grippo]

Why it Was just about, like, what was going on in the house.

[Justin Glaze]

Mouse in the house was.

[Greg Grippo]

Oh, the mouse. My favorite.

[Justin Glaze]

Oh, my gosh. That was my favorite one. It was very timely.

[Greg Grippo]

Like, it was timely because there was.

[Justin Glaze]

Like, drama scattering throughout the house.

[Jason Tartick]

Like, when you guys are all hanging out. Does he do stuff like this all the time?

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Like what? Like, what else does he do?

[Justin Glaze]

I mean, he's a funny dude.

[Jason Tartick]

Like, what. What else? Like, when you wake up, what's your routine? I feel like you wake up and just, like, walk around.

[Greg Grippo]

I mean, I. I do. Like, and if I'm. If I'm in Brooklyn, like, no, I will. I will get a coffee and, like, I'll just walk from. By myself.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, you talk to anybody? You talk yourself?

[Greg Grippo]

No, I listen to music on my walks.

[Jason Tartick]

And you were like this on the Bachelor, too?

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Like, this is, like, just. Wow.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Amazing.

[Justin Glaze]

They stripped all the funny stuff from our season.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah, they actually didn't show a part of it. Not one. Yeah, they wanted, like. I think I do, like, have a perpetual, like, face. If I'm not talking, looks a little, like, sad or grumpy, and I think they just clinged onto that. They're like, yeah, this is gonna good. This is gonna be good. Good.

[Jason Tartick]

Have you ever been in. So you're in a relationship, you guys are, like, living together, and some of these things come out and, like, maybe your significant other times, like, it's like, what's he doing?

[Greg Grippo]

No, I mean, like, I. I think. I think, like, if you're in a relationship and they're, like, accepting you for that, I think that just makes it better. Then all of a sudden, they start joking like that too.

[Jason Tartick]

You're like, oh, look. Look at that. Bringing the funny out. You're bringing the funny out. All right. Well, gentlemen, it has been a roller coaster of laughs, maths, personal, financial, and even professional talk. We're going to do a little segment. You guys okay with that? Okay. We are doing the Garnier Fruitise game segment. You guys ready for this? Yeah. Yeah. It is called the polypeptide pitch game. So first of all, what is a polypeptide? Polypeptides are chains of amino acids that link together to form proteins. They are vital for the structure and function of cells and tissues in living organisms. This is a rapid fire segment. I want you to bring that energy you brought in the Bachelor house. I want you to bring that creative artist energy. And you can't think. You think much. I want you to just say what you're thinking on this Garnier segment, you ready for it? Here we go. First one. We're starting with you, Greg Garnier Fructis Hair Filler Polypeptides. They have a thickening spray. So my question for you. They say it's a good pre date routine. What is one thing before every single.

[Greg Grippo]

Date you're doing before every single date?

[Jason Tartick]

One routine you're doing before every single date?

[Greg Grippo]

Oh, man. I'm showering.

[Justin Glaze]

Justin, that's a great answer.

[Greg Grippo]

I mean. I mean, yeah, I don't have like a set routine.

[Jason Tartick]

Is there any peculiar thing that you.

[Greg Grippo]

Do in the shower?

[Jason Tartick]

No, no. Is there any particular thing you do before a date that like, is maybe out of the ordinary, unlike using thickening spray before a date?

[Greg Grippo]

No, no, no. I definitely not, to be honest with you.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

All right.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Basic shower.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Justice.

[Justin Glaze]

I'll usually put on some music and have a cocktail.

[Jason Tartick]

What kind of music you listen to?

[Justin Glaze]

I'm all over the map. But if I'm prepping for a date, I'll probably put something calming on. Like one of my favorite bands is Wild Rivers.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Justin Glaze]

It's like indie folk.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay. All right. There you go.

[Justin Glaze]

It's a vibe.

[Jason Tartick]

Different routines, but here we go. Speaking of Garnier thickening, what is the thickest and hardest question you've ever been asked on a date? Justin?

[Justin Glaze]

Dead ass. Why is your ass so fat?

[Jason Tartick]

And how did you respond to that?

[Greg Grippo]

I'm serious.

[Jason Tartick]

Did you respond?

[Justin Glaze]

I said I don't know squats. I think it is the I ran track. I think it's a little track booty.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay, gotcha.

[Justin Glaze]

But I'm. I'm being serious.

[Jason Tartick]

All right, going on to question three. Greg, we're starting with you. Garnier Fruitis Hair filler Filler. It fills the voids. What is one of your biggest red flags?

[Greg Grippo]

I feel guilty a lot of the time and I try to please other people even if it hurts myself.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay. Self sacrifice for people pleasing Justin.

[Justin Glaze]

He's a good man.

[Jason Tartick]

Savannah Garnier Fruit teas. Hair filler fills the voids. What is your biggest red flag?

[Justin Glaze]

I'm a little too particular when it comes to my space. Like everything is kind of in order, you know? I make my bed every morning when I leave my sofa. Put the decor pillows back, fold the blankets, and sometimes, yeah, it's. I don't know, I could probably let my hair down a little bit. That's what I did there.

[Jason Tartick]

On a date, you have to sell yourself. We have Garnier Fructis Hair filler Polypeptide spray here. Okay. So I want you like a pitchman back in the day on those TV commercials. I want you to take this Garnier Froutis hair filler polypeptide spray, look into the camera, and in 20 seconds, sell it. Make someone buy it. Who wants to go first?

[Greg Grippo]

Go ahead.

[Jason Tartick]

Which is his camera? Which is his angle? Okay, right here. Greg will go first.

[Greg Grippo]

Do you want people to accept you? Turn to Garnier hair Filler Polypeptides this 2025 season. This season is a year of self improvement, and we all want to be better in some regard. But which way are you going to turn this year? Turn this way right to Garnier. Catch y'all in the flip.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay, that's pretty good. All right, Justin, don't forget.

[Justin Glaze]

I think that's pretty good.

[Jason Tartick]

No, you got to sell it.

[Justin Glaze]

Been looking for a way to take your thick from 1C to 3C's. Well, I've got the answer for you. You. The Garnier Fructis hair filler plus polypeptides will have you thicker than a bowl of oatmeal.

[Greg Grippo]

I need that.

[Justin Glaze]

Yes. Take it from my friend here, Greg Grippo. He's been using this for quite some time now, and his hair has never been thicker.

[Jason Tartick]

Run it through. Oh, great hairline, if you want that.

[Greg Grippo]

And it works like a charm.

[Justin Glaze]

You know where to go.

[Jason Tartick]

All right, last one. Garnier Fructis hair product. It's a beautiful thing. Keeps things thick and prevents hairbrake. You both have experienced public heartbreak. What is the hardest part about dealing with a public heartbreak?

[Greg Grippo]

All of it. I mean, all of it's tough. I think every single part is tough. You know, the comments or what, everyone having multiple opinions on what happened. You know, some. Sometimes it just doesn't work with two people. I feel like my breakup last year, we went about it and we were cautious of each other, which I think helped us heal probably quicker than, you know, two people going back and forth and leaving more opinions on the table.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. All right. Same question.

[Justin Glaze]

For me, I think it was just like. And I fully understand, like, when you're in a public relationship, people. You let people in to the degree to which you're comfortable, and people want answers. And I think in my situation, we tried to handle it, like, as privately as we could in respect for each other and trying to prioritize each other in that situation. And, you know, people want answers, right? And so they start to speculate when you don't give them answers. And so I think just by not giving people much as to what really caused the breakup. I think just opened the door for theories. Right. And just, like, finger pointing and stuff like that. So just dealing with assumptions and things of that nature was tough.

[Jason Tartick]

Yep.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

All right, last one I got for you. Gardier Fructis hair filler Polypeptides thickening spray. I'm going to define that in three words. That brand, it's fuller, thicker, and soft. Those are three words. How do you define your dating life in three words?

[Justin Glaze]

Food slash drinks, Banter and comfort.

[Jason Tartick]

Cute. Greg.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah, that was nice.

[Justin Glaze]

Thank you.

[Greg Grippo]

That was very nice. Yeah. Food slash drinks.

[Jason Tartick]

I want you to go. Go into your break close, okay? Everyone close their eyes. Like, when you do your po Comes, close your eyes. Think about your dating life. Think about the dates. Three words that describe those dates. What do you got?

[Greg Grippo]

I haven't been on too many recently. Fun, casual, and spontaneous.

[Jason Tartick]

I like that. Good. Three words.

[Justin Glaze]

I like that.

[Jason Tartick]

All right, I got a question for you guys. Garnier Fructis hair filler, Polypeptides thickening spray. It's all about the thickness. So I want you to name one person in bachelor nation, not in this room room, that has the most beautiful, voluptuous thick hair.

[Greg Grippo]

Okay.

[Jason Tartick]

Greg, who you got?

[Greg Grippo]

So guy or girl? Imagination.

[Jason Tartick]

Maybe one of each.

[Greg Grippo]

One of each. Yeah. I feel like I haven't met so many people that are now a part of the show.

[Jason Tartick]

But you can see their photos, though.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah, I would say Joey's lady, Kelsey.

[Jason Tartick]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah. What? I just took yours.

[Jason Tartick]

Yes.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Guy.

[Greg Grippo]

Well, I see her tiktoks. We follow each other on TikTok, and she has, like. I feel like.

[Justin Glaze]

No, no, I agree.

[Greg Grippo]

Natural, like, curly hair. That's, like, full.

[Jason Tartick]

That was actually a really good one.

[Justin Glaze]

I agree.

[Jason Tartick]

Stole it from.

[Greg Grippo]

And four guys. Maybe Nate Babatunde, like, when he grows it out.

[Justin Glaze]

Mm, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. Okay.

[Jason Tartick]

Oh, just before we wrap, one celebrity you could think of.

[Greg Grippo]

One celebrity. I think of. I. I think of Matthew McConaugh.

[Jason Tartick]

Oh, interesting.

[Justin Glaze]

He.

[Greg Grippo]

He's like a hair God back in the day.

[Jason Tartick]

I like it. All right. Justin Garnier Fruit teas. Hair filler Polypeptides thickening spray. It makes the hair thick and voluptuous. Who is one person from Bachelor Nation. Actually, let's do one guy, one girl. You think of when you think of voluptuous thick hair.

[Justin Glaze]

It was going to be Kelsey, but all pivots. Teddy's got pretty Teddy from Clayton season.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

[Greg Grippo]

The girl that Andrew went on to.

[Justin Glaze]

That one.

[Jason Tartick]

Are they still dating?

[Justin Glaze]

Andrew never started.

[Greg Grippo]

No, no, no. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. It was on paradise from, like.

[Jason Tartick]

Oh, yeah, Guy.

[Justin Glaze]

John Paul Jones.

[Jason Tartick]

Good one.

[Justin Glaze]

Celebrity Zendaya.

[Jason Tartick]

Oh, wow. Nailed it. All right. Those are. Those are good. Three people killed it.

[Justin Glaze]

And we'd like to actually pivot and ask.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

You, Jason.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

Name one guy, one girl from Bachelor Nation who you think. And one celebrity. Celebrity who you think has voluptuous hair. Not in this room.

[Greg Grippo]

And you can't say yourself.

[Justin Glaze]

Right.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay, Guy. I'm gonna go.

[Justin Glaze]

Zach Zaku.

[Jason Tartick]

Zach, the Bachelor. Oh, wow. Quite. Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

Okay.

[Jason Tartick]

You know.

[Justin Glaze]

Yep, yep.

[Jason Tartick]

And girl. Kelly Flanagan's got a nice head of hair.

[Greg Grippo]

Nice.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah. Celebrity Paulina Gretzky.

[Justin Glaze]

Who's that?

[Greg Grippo]

Is that. That's his daughter.

[Jason Tartick]

It's Wayne's daughter.

[Greg Grippo]

Yeah.

[Justin Glaze]

That seems oddly specific.

[Greg Grippo]

You got. You got the Hotspur.

[Justin Glaze]

Very niche.

[Jason Tartick]

Angelina Jolie.

[Justin Glaze]

Okay.

[Greg Grippo]

Angelina Jolie.

[Justin Glaze]

Very niche.

[Greg Grippo]

Wow. I feel like we're getting down something.

[Justin Glaze]

Yeah.

[Greg Grippo]

Hold on, hold on.

[Justin Glaze]

How much time do we have actually?

[Jason Tartick]

O.

[Justin Glaze]

How would you describe your dating word, Your. Your dating life in three words?

[Jason Tartick]

We're not doing that. Greg, Justin, thank you guys for being on what might be the funniest episode of all time. I thought you and Andrew's episode was an all time high. I think Justin just outdid. It might be the new Batman, but we got to wrap with the trading secret. All right, so I need a trading secret from each you. It could be about your last year because it's been about a year since everyone's been on the show. So a little update. What's happened in the last year, that's a trading secret to your life, Financially, professionally, or personally? Justin, let's start with you. What can you leave us with?

[Justin Glaze]

Don't let the opinions of others deter you from pursuing what you want.

[Jason Tartick]

Profound. Greg, give us a trade secret.

[Greg Grippo]

It's gonna sound really cliche, but I think it can't be worse than justice. That was cliche.

[Justin Glaze]

Let me dig deeper in my bag, Greg.

[Greg Grippo]

I think expressing gratitude has changed my life, and I think that I've tried to practice that every day.

[Jason Tartick]

Day.

[Greg Grippo]

And even though I felt like. I felt like it was. It felt so fake to me in the beginning. I feel like it's kind of helped my brain in a way to really appreciate everything I have in life. And so saying thank you every day, I like that.

[Jason Tartick]

And I think I like you. You're saying what you're saying, but you're talking the walk and walking the Talk. Because I think when we talked about our careers and some of the concerns about, like, what tomorrow could look like, what next year could look like, your perspective of just being grateful for what it is, knowing where you came from was, like, really refreshing, pushing. And so that. That landed like me. Do you want to try again or sad bad, huh?

[Greg Grippo]

Sure.

[Justin Glaze]

You want to be more specific? I mean, no, just.

[Jason Tartick]

What's like a trading secret? Let's talk. To me, that was one thing, that.

[Greg Grippo]

Excess with, like, with art and stuff.

[Justin Glaze]

What's the secret behind art?

[Greg Grippo]

I don't know. Did anybody judge you growing up about art?

[Jason Tartick]

I think one of my trading secrets I've learned from you. I'll tell you this one. One I've learned from you over the year is like, you're very diligent, and when you're. You're very consistent, instant, who, you, you, you. You come up with a plan. And no one, I think, executes a plan like you. Like, you're. There's nothing that will stop you from doing what you're going to do once you decide to do it. No distraction. You're extremely disciplined. And, like, over the last year, I've learned that.

[Justin Glaze]

I appreciate that. And so, I mean, I didn't want. I'm not gonna talk about myself in that way, but, like, with what I said, that's. That's kind of along the lines because with. With what my goals are, right? And the plans that I have for myself along the way, there's been people that have had opinions like, oh, you can't do that. That's too big of a goal. Like, just focus on this, this, and that, right? And it would have been easy for me to just doubt myself and be like, okay, they're probably right. Like, it is a lot to try to fund my own business with huge goals and do X, Y and Z move across the country, all these things, right? And so I've had all these deterrents, and I've just tried to stay headstrong and. And understand that. I don't know, I can't let other people's visions be my vision, right? Like, they may not have the capacity to envision what I have for myself. So I love it.

[Jason Tartick]

All right, well, Justin, Greg, thank you guys so much for being on this episode of Trading Secrets. Where can everyone find everything you have going on? Greg.

[Greg Grippo]

It would be Greg Grupo on Instagram and Greg J. Grippo on Tick Tock and Gator elsewhere.

[Jason Tartick]

Where can everyone find everything you have going on?

[Justin Glaze]

Justin Glaze on Instagram and Justin Underscore glaze on tick tock.

[Jason Tartick]

Amazing. Well, thank you guys for being on train.

[Justin Glaze]

Thank you for having us.

[Jason Tartick]

You guys killed it.

[Justin Glaze]

Appreciate you.

[Jason Tartick]

Ding, ding, ding. We are closing in the bell to the Justin and Greg episode. I got David with me on the recap and the recap is live and, well, the money mafia has spoken. You guys want the recap? We are going to keep the recap. We might do a Jason Tells all episode maybe once every, I don't know, every couple months or so, because we got a lot of good feedback from that. And we are still looking for a woman co host. Maybe we'll even do tryouts on this podcast. But this was a. A fun episode and we also had a little bit of a technological malfunction at the 11th hour here. It's Sunday night. We're doing the recap, getting ready to get this out tomorrow morning, and one of our microchips broke. So David's actually recording from his phone. So, people, even if you want to do a podcast or anything like that, nature, you could just use the voice memo from your phone. But enough of me, the curious Canadians with us. David, how are we doing this week?

[David]

We're doing. We're doing okay. Let's just say that it's. It's 11pm on a Sunday night. I just got off the bus from a tournament in Toronto, one of the biggest tournaments of the year. My team lost in the championship game in overtime, and so that was tough. And it made me think of, we'll get on track with the episode here. But it made me think of probably a little bit of similar, the heartbreak that you went through with the Bills. Then I thought about sports. I saw my team there just devastated after the game, crying head in their jerseys. I just walked out of there. I'm like, why do we do this to ourselves sometimes? Why don't. Like, if you don't, like, give me an example. If you're. Don't play sports where you just drag yourself through the agony of, like, competition, where it just, like, actually eats you alive. Can you think of anything else if you're not. If it's not sports? Like what? Give what. Like, is there anything else on the planet that can do this to you that could literally torture you?

[Jason Tartick]

I mean, mean, you know, David, here's the thing. Yeah. Everything, like, I think, like, the beauty of sports is, like, what is it like? Let's just. Let's just claw it back. And I think anybody can relate to this. It's passion and love, right? It's. It's your community, it's your team, it's your people. Your players are fighting for. For you. They're fighting for each other, and they come up short, and it's heartbreaking. And that only doesn't apply to. To sports. It applies to life. That applies to. To heartbreaks, to loss of people when they pass, to loss of people when they exit your life. Like, I think, honestly, it hits every aspect of life. It's the beauty of just, like, passion. You know what I'm saying? And so, honestly, as hard as it is that you guys lost in. In overtime, as hard as it is that the Bills lose, like, I think when you look at it, like, when you feel that pain and it's getting a little deeper, that's just, like, the passion and love you have for what you're doing in that moment or that somebody. And to me, that's beautiful. Like, that's the way to live.

[David]

I don't disagree with that. I think you sum that up very nicely. We're good. That was a low.

[Jason Tartick]

I'll also say this, too. There's a famous quote by Vincent Lombardi. Show me. And it's a little harsh, but it's real. Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser.

[David]

Yes, Right.

[Jason Tartick]

And it's this concept of, like, you know, accepting defeat easily without striving to be better or lack of ambition is a loser mentality. And so, you know, that's a. It's a good. That's a terrible feeling, but it's also a good feeling. It's a pulse.

[David]

Check it. Also, we lost the same team, the host team, in the championship game last year, same tournament, Shout out. St. Andrews College. They do a great job. Hopefully we get them next year. But that was. That was a low. But we're back on the high. The high was jta, the feedback we've got, the comments that we've got. Thank you to all the listeners. Your feedback's very. Been very helpful. They want the. They want the curious Canadian on the recaps moving forward. What can I say?

[Jason Tartick]

People have spoken.

[David]

I was a little worried there for a sec. I'm like, did I. Did we just kind of write my death warrant here? Like, am I just gonna get the boot? So, no, I'm here to stay. And you know what? Not only am I here to stay, I feel a little more empowered now to kind of take the recaps in the direction that I want them to go. We're gonna do a little bit of JTA feels in the recap Cap. We're just going to do whatever I want to do. And I think if at the end of the day, the people will are loud and clear, and if they want me gone, they want me gone. But if you're going to keep me, we're going to do this thing. So let's do this thing.

[Jason Tartick]

So let's do this thing. I love it. Before we get into Justin and Greg, anything about either JTA or anything else you want to bring up or just thoughts, because obviously it was a. Just a lot. There's a lot of episodes, a lot of feedback, a lot of action, a lot of talk, you know.

[David]

Yeah, I. I think personally the only thing that I'm not used to is I. I shared reels for the first time with you and my phone. Oh, my God, the notifications, dude, every time I open my phone, it's like 100 comments, 100 likes. I'm like, you must obviously have those things silenced. So that was nuts. But I just think for me, big picture wise, those GTA episodes are special to me because it's the truest version of you and me giving people insight to conversations we have on a daily basis. The fact that we get to do it for each other is really, really awesome. The feedback is only, you know, it proves that, you know, the ratings of it were great. I mean, I think it got into the top 20 of all business podcasts, which is surreal. And the biggest thing for me is that it gives you an opportunity to maybe scratch the surface of things that you just. There's just not time to do because of a lot of different reasons that you get to do it with me. And maybe it's because I make you feel comfortable, or maybe it's, you know, that that's coming up and it's one place to kind of just speak your truth, even though it's not maybe fully out there. It's enough for the people that are listening to you, that follow you, that love you, that, you know, appreciate and respect you. It's. It's an opportunity for them to kind of just finally hear it from your voice. And I think that that's always the best part. Part?

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's perfectly said, David. I have a few things with that, you know, opening, you know, pulling back the curtain a little bit more like we did last week. I. In this, this past week, I had therapy, and in therapy, I actually played a couple responses to Jiffy that I was. I had been questioning, and it was really interesting because one of her responses to Me was. Was. She's like, do. Did you guys not plan this? And I was like, what do you mean? She's like, well, I'm listening to this response. Like, this response is, like, extremely raw. Like, you can tell, like, you almost were caught off guard with that question. And it was just like a very, very raw response. Did you not, like, did you not have those questions and, like, plan those questions? And I was like, no. Like, I had no idea. And, like, I didn't know what he was going to ask. We didn't. We didn't talk about it. And that's kind of. I think the beauty in it is that you got two best buddies sitting down, and it's just real and raw. I don't know the curve balls you're coming with. I don't know the answers I'm going to have. And so I thought that was kind of interesting. And I think. I think one of my big takeaways from it is I think in business, I'm. I'm really good at, let's just say, standing up for myself. Like, I'll go toe to toe, Negotiation, tough conversation, eye to eye in the lion's den all day publicly. I'm really not good at sticking up for myself. And I think just continuing some of the conversation we had. You know, you were a huge proponent of, during some of my breakups for me to, like, get out there and tell my story and tell my truth. And I was always like, no, no, no, no. And I don't even think I really even scratched the surface of doing that on jta, but I do think I spoke a little bit. And what I felt was a very, very honest, very real and very respectable way. And, you know, I feel. I feel good about it. I feel good about it. I feel a little bit more empowered to be more vulnerable. And it's just the reality that vulnerability does equal relatability, which equals empowerment. And the more vulnerable you get, the more people connect with you and also the more noise there is too. So, yeah, just a lot of takeaways about it, but I think that's the way I want to live my life. And so I'm good with it.

[David]

And that's. And for me, it's. It's great to hear because it's important to be able to do that, right? It's important to be able to speak, you know, about things that, at the end of the day, they. They impact your life. That's why you got to keep me on, because I can tell you these things, and I don't have to think about it on the maybe PR or business level that you have to because of you said the noise and the things and the factors because I. You and I see what you're going through, and I want to scream it for you from the mountaintops. And then I get all these freaking notifications on my phone about people commenting on your stuff, and I'm like, screenshot. It'd be like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna screen. I'm just gonna reply to this and set the record straight for you. If you can't do it, like, this is like. So, yeah, maybe you just need to start taking me more and I'll just. I'll just come be the. The truth setter in the. In the comment section.

[Jason Tartick]

So. I love it. It's great. It's great. All right, well, here we are 10 minutes into the recap, and we have not even talked about Justin Greg. So let's get into Justin.

[David]

No good.

[Jason Tartick]

This is.

[David]

This is how the recaps are gonna roll these days. So I will say this. I was so depressed on the bus coming home. It was dead silent. And I had to listen to this episode because I knew we were going to recap it tonight. And I will say it put a smile on my face. It put a smile on my face. It was pretty funny. I mean, Justin Greg. I mean, Greg is a complete wild card. You. You never know if he's like it or if he's like.

[Jason Tartick]

If he's, like, serious or not. Are you in character or not?

[David]

Exactly. And he's witty and he's funny, and I think that's part of his charm. And I love, kind of like, I love that he's gone through his own process too. Like, I love that he's gone through, like, realization of he wasn't ready to be the lead. And he really, you know, what people thought affected him. And he's kind of got this, like, let them attitude.

[Jason Tartick]

You.

[David]

I. I think I saw you post that on your Instagram this week. Week. Let them. In terms of, like, during, like, an Ask me anything. Is that. Am I. Is that correct?

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah. So. So Mel Robbins is a podcaster now, author, and she just released a book, Let them. And it's blowing. Blowing up. She's now the number one podcast in the entire world. But the idea between Let them and Let me. So they're these core concepts of, like, mindset framework. And the idea is reclaiming just your power and finding peace by focusing on really, like, exactly what you, rather than getting caught up in the actions, the reactions, the noise of other people. So it's understanding let them by accepting, you know, what you can't control, releasing the burdens of other people's actions or noise, focusing on your own power, setting boundaries. Once you understand the let them theory, then there's the let me. So it's reclaiming your power. It's taking responsibility for yourself. It's creating a positive cycle and then focusing on your growth. But the idea is like, so many people in this world are so worried to do anything. We talk about it every week, man. We talk about this on every single podcast. Like, the fear of doing things because of judgment. And this whole thought is like, let them. Let them talk. Let them run their mouth. Let them say you're this. Let them say they're that no one can take your character. Focus on what you control and not what you can't control. And it's a theory that's like taking over the United States by storm.

[David]

Yeah. And I think it resonates with you. But then I hear you say all the things that you just said like 5 minutes ago too, and it's okay, let them. I agree, agree. Just let them, Let them say the comments. But when there's so much false out there, how is that just part of it? You just gotta let that. Let the false be out there and not stick up for yourself. And like, you know what I mean? Like, how do you do it?

[Jason Tartick]

I mean, I, I need to do a better job of like, not letting, like, those false narratives, but what am I gonna do? Argue with like, trolls online 54th 59 in a comment that's actually my burner account.

[David]

User 5. No, I'm kidding.

[Jason Tartick]

It's like, what am I gonna do? You know? So, yeah, it is what it is.

[David]

So you gotta just let them.

[Jason Tartick]

Let them, let them, you know?

[David]

Yeah.

[Jason Tartick]

Anyway, so, yeah, that's, That's. I'm good. It was good. Interesting to hear Greg talk about that. Obviously. That petition threw me250,000 plus signatures. I didn't even realize that was a thing.

[David]

Yeah. And the fact that he was just so open and raw about it. And I can only imagine coming off the show and like you said, the first year off the show, you're just so hyperfocused on, like, what people are saying, and then you get the opportunity to be the lead and that's like the greatest thing, you know, and of feeling yourself probably, and you're getting access to all these things and all a sudden it's like, wait a quarter Million people took the time to sign up for a thing, to actively not want me to see me. Like, what is wrong with me? How bad. Am I really that bad of a person? Do I really negatively impact people in that way where they, like, are going out of their way? Like, we could, man. We've been doing the podcast for three and a half years. We have 5,500 ratings. Ratings. So of all the. We have 10 plus million downloads. We've had 5, 500 people go and leave a rating and take the time. They had two. He had a quarter million people take the time to. To say, I don't want you on my TV screen. That's got to really with someone's psyche.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, it's interesting now again, I don't know the specifics behind it, or we. We didn't get into it, but, like, yeah, that was. That was news to me. That's. That's crazy. You know, I'll say this, like, any. Any time I've ever, ever come across Greg, I've ever had an interaction with Greg. Nice, kind, sweet soul, like, great guy. So I can only say great things from all. Everything I've ever encountered with Mr. Greg Grippo. So you know what? Maybe one day we will see him is the Bachelor. And Justin's creativity and his art and what he has coming and what he's done has been also fun to watch. And he too, is hilarious. I feel like these two together were really a blast. Any other big takeaways from the episode or things you're thinking about?

[David]

One comment that I feel like it's fairly relevant. I feel like I'm just on a roll right now, so I'm just gonna throw it out there. What was the quote you said? You either live long enough, be a hero or live long enough to be a villain.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain.

[David]

So now that we're on the topic of the franchise, guys, Matt James, obviously in the news right now, definitely in his villain era for his breakup. But I just thought when you said that, that, like, kind of hit me. And then it also hit me that I think it was Greg or Justin said it feels like sometimes when we have these massive followings, people are following us just so they can wait until we slip up or we screw up so they can tear us down. Do you think that that's true? True. Like, when you see someone, like, let's take a Matt James an example. Someone has a million followers, do you think what percentage of people's following do you think are following because they actually like really like the person and they want to cheer for them or how many you think are following just so they can follow to, to negatively comment or to, you know, it's almost like a hate follow because that's a real thing.

[Jason Tartick]

Interesting. It's something I've never thought about, about. That's a great question. I mean, I'm gonna just guess. I don't know, I think like probably 80% of people, if they're gonna hit the follow button, especially like these days, like you can see everyone and who they follow. So who you decide to follow definitely connects with you, I guess. But I think 80% of people like want to root that person on. 20% maybe don't, maybe less. But you know, just speaking about if just bringing that whole entire conversation up. I, I don't, you know, we don't, I don't want to get into the specifics of the breakup and everything. It's really not what we do on this podcast. But we do talk business and we do talk pop culture meeting business. Yeah, I, I, it is like, let's just talk business. It is wild. The numbers behind this breakup. Oh with the scale and the impressions and the numbers behind this breakup break up. What was the last time we saw breakup like this, like at this level? Probably, I don't know, like every, everyone was talking about it. Everybody.

[David]

I've, I've compared it when we've talked about it off obviously just on our own. I've compared it to like the scandal on Bravo and I mean the scandal thing when it comes to like doing bad things, that was, that was, you know, worse course of actions, let's just say. Yeah, so yeah, I mean it's, it's everywhere. It shows, it shows the pull of the kind of the batch. Long term bachelor couples though, I mean they're, they're on call. Obviously. Her call her daddy episode was, was huge. But, but that's just a curious take out there because you say 80%. I actually think it's like, I think it's like 50, I think 50% of your people are really rooting for you. I think like 35% are there just to monitor you.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[David]

I just want to see what's this person's, I want to monitor them.

[Jason Tartick]

What do they all storyline.

[David]

Let me follow the storyline. And then 15% are trolls.

[Jason Tartick]

Okay.

[David]

50% are, are, are, are, are following you. So you, you, you can do something that makes them upset so they can send a comment or they can share it to someone and see like, see, I told you.

[Jason Tartick]

Hey, I got another. Okay, the interesting breakdown. I got another take on this whole Rachel. Just as like, as. As far as the business aspect of it. Rachel goes on Caller Daddy, right? What. What's interesting in the Bachelor franchise, what it feels like, like, would have happened five years ago, maybe even a few others, is that would have been an ABC exclusive, right? Like, there would have been a sit down Y with the host and they would have done a whole thing and there would have been commercials on it and it would have been like, like, that's ABC talent. That's the Bachelor talent. And it would have been a whole thing, right? And I'm surprised seeing the size and scale from a business perspective that that's the. That's what happened. And it. And maybe that's just an overall shift in pop culture. Maybe it's like people are now going on podcasts, like the size of caller daddies, because it's actually gonna bring in many more viewers at different demographics and audiences than actually ABC doing an exclusive. But I'm surprised abc, ABC wouldn't jump on that exclusive for, like, the sake of the franchise. Franchise.

[David]

I completely agree, and I think I've said this many times. It just blows me away that ABC doesn't do a better job of pulling some of these people back into their franchise. And maybe, like we've talked about, maybe it's because if presented with the opportunity that they wouldn't want it and that they've moved on. I thought what you guys talked about in the podcast is actually really interesting about does go. Did going on the show change your relationship timeline? Like, your career is advanced. Would it change your relationship timeline? So maybe people are kind of like, like, don't want to get sucked in that vortex again. But regardless, you know, feel for the girl.

[Jason Tartick]

Obviously.

[David]

She seems, like, super, super sweet. I met her one time when we were doing the book tour at 92nd Street Y in New York City. Wish her all the best. But like I said, the, the business behind it. I mean, she's got a quarter million followers. She's, you know, she's. She's got a big support system on her and Wish her all the best.

[Jason Tartick]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Couldn't have said it better myself. All right, any other big takeaways from the Justin and Greg episode you want to touch before we wrap up?

[David]

I just, I think that they're great guys. I. I just love seeing kind of how they're approached all this. All of their success has been around, like, positivity and humor. To hear that Justin's having a three and a half X. You know, growth in his revenue from the content creation kitchen space is amazing. Greg's killing. It's like, you can't even say Greg and Taco what he's doing without laughing because it's just like, it just makes you giggle. I love you. What do you do with, like, you're dancing? Like, do you choreograph it like you thought it was like. Then he's like, explaining it and it's like, no, that's a skit.

[Jason Tartick]

And it's.

[David]

But it's like, no, it's not a skit. He's actually just like. Like, he blacks out and he just bops the music. They're doing great. They're either great guys or guys that I like. I love to go out for a night with and go for a dinner with and, and. And, you know, just pick up on their energy a little bit. But they're great people, man. They're doing great. And it's. It's good to see people like that who have came off the show, who have gone through some. Right. Gone through the public breakouts, but it landed on their feet and now they're in it. Right? As you know, they're in it. They're not. They're. They're. They're increasing revenue year over year. They're getting a better sense of what they want. I feel like they're a little more grounded in it. So I thought it was a great episode.

[Jason Tartick]

Great episode. Both very talented people. I mean, we talked about on the podcast. But if obviously, Greg skits are hilarious and Justin's art and creation creativity is great, it is no surprise to me that his revenue is up 3x because he's gotten so good at the quality of creating content in his artistry. So it is cool to hear from these guys. Always good to have Bachelor Nation on. David, always good to recap with you. Please stop right now. Give us five stars. Let us know your biggest takeaway. Throw your Instagram handle up. I'm in the process of moving, and as I'm moving, I am giving stuff away. We did a. We did a Trading Secrets, a group zoom the other day. We had 50 some people on. We were shooting the breeze, hearing feedback from people. We'll do more of it. It, like, so good to connect, but those 50 people can vouch for it. I was giving away stuff left and right. I think I got 45 things in the mail to send out this week. So we're giving things away. Five stars. Biggest takeaway. Guess who want on? Please put your Instagram handle and make sure to subscribe to this podcast and watch us on YouTube. Thank you for tuning into another episode of Trading Secrets 1 hopefully you couldn't afford to miss.

[Justin Glaze]

Know me making that money, living that dream making that money on me making.

[Jason Tartick]

That money living that dream.