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Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today we are joined by Jesse Solomon, one of the most talked about personalities on Bravo Summerhouse. You first met Jesse during season eight, but what's really exciting is everything that's happened since. He's filmed multiple additional seasons of Summerhouse, built a rapidly growing platform and made the bold decision to step into the spotlight fully leaving his finance career behind not just as a reality TV personality, but as a creator, an entrepreneur and investor, and now a touring musician. What the hell? This conversation is about what happens when opportunity compounds quickly, when your career, finances and personal life are evolving all at the same time. We're talking about navigating fame with intention, turning attention into leverage, and building a long term career that goes far beyond one show or one season while dealing with the difficulties of ups, downs, lefts and right in the spotlight. Jesse, it is so damn good to have you on Trading Secrets. Thank you for being here.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah, it's truly a pleasure. You know, there's not a lot of guys to look up to in this world, so I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to have you as a friend.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
That's very sweet. Wow, what a nice. I'm happy to have you as a friend too. It's been, it's always fun hanging out with you, getting to talk with you business life and honestly getting to see you grow. And I think that is such a theme of everything you've done. Like with your businesses, you've grown, with your brands, you've grown, I think with your heart and your mind. You've grown. Like, just you and I have had, like, deep conversations just about life. It's really cool to see all that. And last time you were on the show was actually June 20th. 24th. So it's 18 months ago.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
20. 24.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
24. So there's going to be times in this episode I reference things you said and I want your take on it. But when we talk about growth, just that 100,000 followers on IG at that time, you now have 269,000. So you're up 169%. I see a little 69 in there. Okay, we're still immature.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Wasn't on purpose.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Wasn't on purpose. TikTok, you had 30,000 followers. You now have 109,000. Up 350%. Let me ask you, when you summarize the last 18 months, how would you summarize it in all areas of your life?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, a lot of ups and downs, but I feel like I've learned so much and I've grown so much. I've changed as a person. I've clarified what I want to be doing with my life and what I want to be spending time on. So it's just a really exciting time. And it's been so fun. I'm so grateful for everything that's happened. It's happened quickly, so I'm just trying to be present and enjoy it all.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Dude, I think that's amazing. It's a great perspective. Let's. I think we have to start at the top of the episode with this because I know there's so many Summer House Bravo fans watching this.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
This episode is being recorded before the premiere on February 3rd, but we know season 10 is coming and we have seen some insane teasers. I don't want you to reference those teasers. I want you to just give me, like, a head and heart breakdown. How would you tease season 10 as we're getting ready to watch it all unfold?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
There was a lot that happened. I think it's going to be just, like, a lot of action and a lot of storylines, a lot of new people and just a lot of love and friendship. And it's a show based off of real friends and real relationships. And that's one thing that season eight Jesse didn't understand. I was like, how real is reality tv? And now I'm like, this is. It's fucking real. Like, these are my actual best friends. And I didn't know what to expect going into this whole experience, but it's been just really rewarding and I think that's what makes our show work, is how real it is. Nobody's telling us to do anything, so it's all real conversations, and you don't know what to expect. What did you expect going on the Bachelor?
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Like, you can't you expect the unexpected? Yeah, that's one, two. I can say with confidence. The Bachelor is. They have such a story to tell in such a small period of time that they have to be able to maneuver it. They have to put you on the dates. They have to ask you the tough questions. What's so interesting about your show when I've got to see it behind the scenes being recorded, is it's exactly what you said, like, when I was there watching you guys film, and I've seen now two or three different episodes. Yeah, I think I was at the cowboy or the circus theme party you guys had this year. It's just like, life is living, and that's it. It all unfolds that way, which is pretty. I think that's different than most shows.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. And people like to watch because we're having fun and they feel like they're having fun with us, as opposed to some other shows where it's all about the drama.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah. Forget about your edit or what you think it might look like if you had to summarize your experience based on how you felt. Season 10, looking back on it, how would you summarize or tease it for us?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
And it couldn't have gotten any worse last summer.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
What goes down must come up. Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
It was just a lot of fun. You'll see me date a little bit. You'll see me open up about mental health and be a little more vulnerable as you do this more, I think you get better at just being yourself on camera, which is like a skill. Like, I'm always myself. But it can be hard to really open up, especially as a man, when you've been taught over the years to bottle up and hold in your emotions, to speak freely about them on national television. It can be a scary thing. Yeah, I'm just maturing in my dating life, emotionally, career, everything.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Good for you, man. I love it. I'm excited to see it unfold because it's always fun to watch how you continue to just grow in all areas. Business, music, passion. And just as a person, it's awesome.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I appreciate it. You didn't ask me to sum it up in one word, did you?
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
No, I didn't. I didn't. I know that. I know that you could pontificate too much for that. All right, here's another one I got. We're, of course, we're going to talk business and all the different areas you're touching, but I'm getting into the deeper, like, mental side of it. If you could sit across from Jesse right now, so assume I'm Jesse right before season eight starts, what would you tell him? Like, the worst move that he made was, like, either TV or career, hey, don't do this. This was the worst thing you did. And then, conversely, we'll end it with a good feeling. If you talk to him and be like, you did this great. Make sure you do it. What would those pieces of advice be?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I would look back and tell season eight, Jesse, you don't have to have it all figured out. You don't have to prove anything to anybody. Just be yourself, and life comes at you fast. But you just got to, like, take it all in and enjoy the journey and the process and choose the hard thing. Don't always take the easy road. And I would say focusing on music, I think, you know, I was working in finance and wondering, like, what I was. If I was gonna. I thought I'd start a business going on Summer House eventually, but being on the show brought me closer to the entertainment business. And that's, like, what I studied in college was music. I love doing music. When I reflect reflected back on 2025, like, the thing that gave me the most joy was being in the studio writing a song with cool people, talented people. So, yeah, it's been, like, such a blessing and not exactly what I was expecting, but just, like, glad that I could use what I'm good at.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I think one of the hardest things to do in reality TV is you build a platform based on going on the show and then trying to pivot to a passion or even something like, you studied vocal jazz in school. This is your background. But pivoting to that is, like, a really challenging thing to do. And one of the reasons it's one of the most challenging thing to do is because of the scrutiny that comes with it. Right. The people that see you on Summer House, that follow you, they don't want to see you go chase some pipe dream by using the platform. What type of, like, feedback or negativity have you received for that, and how has that impacted, like, your actual decision in pursuing music now?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, I've received a lot of hate for singing, and it definitely gives you pause, but I have so much fun, and it brings me so much joy, and it's like. Feels like what I'm supposed to be doing. So I'm trying to just drown out the haters and do what I love because I've sang my entire life. I've never thought I was, like, the greatest singer of all time, but I think I'm pretty good.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I think you're good.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I think I'm a talented songwriter, and I've developed that skill. And even this morning, like, Spotify gave me a recommended song, and it was, like, one of my first songs that I recorded, and I was like, damn, my songwriting's come a long way. So even just, like, in 18 months, like, I've gotten much better. And I know that I have a long way to go, but I'm doing the work. I take voice lessons. I take piano lessons. I practice every day. I write music every day. Yeah, it just feels good. I. I'm more creative. And working in finance and starting a business and doing all that stuff, you get so far away from your creative energy. And just like, getting back to that has been a really good feeling. And, you know, I'm a developing artist, but I'm doing it in the public eye. And it's like a blessing and a curse, but it's way more of a blessing. So I'm just, like, using the positives of people already liking me for being on Summer House to hope that my music can inspire them and help them do whatever they want to be doing.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
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Jesse Solomon (Guest)
And I tell myself all these things, like, you can rationalize all of it, but when you see something about something that you love, like what you're passionate about, it stings for a second. And then you think to yourself all those things, oh, this person, like, isn't confident. They're insecure. They have their own issues. Like, they're writing online about me and my life. Like, why do you care? You can tell yourself all the things, but it still hurts, obviously, when you
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
hear it, that's, we're going to get into the music business that you're in the touring, some of the money. So stay tuned for that. But while you're on the topic of the comments, you and I have talked personally offline before, and you're like, dude, it doesn't matter what I. There is a time, not now, but there was a time that, like, it doesn't matter. I could literally do anything. I could, like, get involved in my philanthropy. I could write a check to, like, an organization. All I'm going to do is be scrutinized. There's. They're going to find that 5% of what could be wrong with it, and then they're going to drill into that. How did you deal with that? How did you overcome it?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
It's really freeing, honestly, because even if I think I'm doing the right thing, I know people will hate it. So I just care less about my decision making, like, from things as simple as, like, an outfit that I really like. And I, like, took time to put together and people just hate the jeans or something. And it's just no matter what I do, people are gonna have an issue with it, so I might as well just do what want. And it's freed me up to just be myself.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay, this is a really good transition to a quote that you said a year and a half ago. And I talked a little bit about, did you expect to be on reality tv? Why'd you do it, and what do you think about it now? One of your responses was, I was always the main character of my own movie, and now that everyone else gets to see it and likes me, it's been pretty fun. What is your initial reaction? What would you tell that person?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I'm such a cock. Like, I get what I was trying to say, but hearing that out loud sounds so bad. Yeah, I would probably tell myself to, like, chill out. Who cares? I mean, that is a good way to think about life as, you know, you've only got one life to live, live it to the fullest. You're the main character in your movie, but how you just said it, I'm the man. So I'm glad everybody else sees it now is how it comes off. So, yeah, I'm trying to. I'm working on myself.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I think it. Here's what I see and tell me if there's wrong. I see when you said that you of course, have self confidence, that you always have, you always will. But I also see in that statement self confidence, connecting to your value, being if people like you, right. Like people like me, so they're gonna get to see it. And I think what I'm seeing here is if people like me, great. If people don't like me, that's okay too. I just have to continue to be the best me. And to me, that's just like, truly the definition of growth. And that's what I see. Does that feel like that resonates?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, totally. I think people connect with authenticity. And even if, you know, you're not perfect, nobody's perfect. So people connect with. As long as you're authentically you, whether you make mistakes, as long as you own up to it, people can see the good in that.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I love it. All right, from the mental side of the business, let's talk a little bit about the finance and business side of the business. You went to University of Miami. We're in Miami right now. You go to wme. You talked last time. You're on the episode. If you guys haven't listened, go back and listen to it. But you worked in the mail room. How much you made, you worked your way to an agent. You then left with a business partner. On last year and a half episode, you said that you guys raised $11 million together. You pivoted the entire business. And then you guys got divorced. You and your business partner broke up. You also talked about the fact you had vested interest in the business.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
And that if there is some kind of exit, you could see a potential six figure check. Have you guys exited? Have you seen the check? Where do you stand with that business partner?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
We are still best friends.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Wow.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Thank God. Yeah, it's much easier to be his friend when you're not his business partner.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Well said.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
He rolled that business into another business, which is like a solar energy business and it's still kicking. So no exit, but no official failure.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay, so you haven't, you haven't got that check.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
No.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay, what about any other. And we'll get into the business. Social media and everything else. But what about other businesses? Investments or potential just like interests you have that have come to fruition in the last year and a half that might be outside of what we see on your social media. Media.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. So there's the show, obviously, social media. And just like everything that comes with being on the show, appearances, whatever, which is like incredible that people pay me for that. I'm so lucky. And then music obviously is a losing endeavor at this point, but it's an investment in my future and we can get into all that. And then last time I was on, I was brokering money into small and medium sized businesses. I'm doing less of that and more investing in those businesses.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
So just being the financier instead of the broker, it's just a better use of my time and frankly I make more money doing it. And then I've invested in startups. So if 70 or 80% of my money is like with my financial advisor at UBS in like the S and P and bonds and whatever, I would say like 10% is in crypto and then another 10% is in startups.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
What startup have you invested in that you're most excited about?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Besides Softbar?
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah. Oh, software is a good one. Yeah. Let's go. How much did you invest in a soft bar?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
This between Carl and I, I'll Leave it there.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
But we get into it on the show.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Oh, you do? You talk about it? Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Like, you'll hear about who invested in Soft Bar and stuff on Summer House, but Carl's crushing it. Events, Brand Partners. So Soft Bar is great. There's a company called Waivers, which is a chip company that David Dobrik started.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Oh, yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
And one of the new cast members on Summer House got me involved in that. He's buddies with David, so that's been great. They're in like seven elevens all across Australia and Gopuff Deal and Crushing it. So that's been fun. And then I invested in this company Saws that Felix put together with his company Bullet Pitch. So that was just to like get involved in his syndicate. And I've been looking at others, but, yeah, mostly like consumer products. For whatever reason, like those consumer food products have been coming my way and I've seen like, really good opportunities.
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Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I feel like I've been able to develop as a digital creator, which is not something that was. Came as second nature to me. So it's been like a fun learning process being able to partner with some of my favorite brands, whether it's like I did a stand up to cancer deal with MasterCard and I went to the World Series and we're like on the field right before Shohei is about to lead off in game two. And like I went to on a ski trip with Sonos, which is, I love music. We got to go skiing in Italy, in the Dolomites. Just awesome experiences that I never would have expected to have.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah. So just a little bit of my take is I think the idea of cringe are people saying like, oh, thirsty. I think that's just a lot of like blanket judgment and maybe people really feel that. But I think at the end of the day when you look in the mirror and you stand like 10 toes down thinking about your life where 18 months ago, what you were doing with your career and your accessibility and the experiences you got and the friendships you had, the network, all the things in your life have changed based on I've seen as a friend and even this conversation for the better financially, professionally, personally. You've grown mentally, you're doing more philanthropic work. And that all was the epicenter of making the decision to go on reality tv. And now you're clearly growing your social media. So you're doing these things to grow your social media. And I think these statements of people calling people cringe or thirsty are just outrageous. Why would you not want to better that? Why would you not want an opportunity to take a shot at music when that was your entire life studying it?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Do not feel bad for pursuing the interests that will best serve you. Your family, your future life, your future potential kids. Because people put these labels on it and it just infuriates me. And I think making it gender specific too is just very. It's unfair, I don't think. I just think it's. They're very shallow comments. You got a lot of people out there that are men on social media that are making unbelievable impact in the world. A Jay Shetty or an MD motivator or people like a KSI or ishowspeed who are changing the blueprint for things. And I think, I don't know, it's just that statement. It just bugs me a little bit. Yeah, probably because people have said it about me too. And it's just, I'm going to keep doing my thing. Yeah, do your thing. Your negativity is you're having a great
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
time and you're winning it.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
And it's changed my life and it's
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
changing other people's lives.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Changing other people's lives.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I get messages from people that are cancer survivors or went and got checked because of a post of mine they saw. And it's a business, it promotes all your other things and it's becoming just like more acceptable. Everybody's on social media, everybody is posting. Everybody wants to be an influencer. So I think it's like, not as cringe as it used to be.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
It is what it is. You just got to keep doing. Ignore the noise. All right, now let's get to money. You said your goal. 2023. You said your goal. As far as money, listen, I knew
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
you were gonna ask me this.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
As far as making money, I want to be making millions a year. The goal is to be making over a million in 2025. 2025, did you make over a million?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Listen, if you want to say how much money you made in 2025, yeah, I'll tell you.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
In 2024, I made 2.7 million. In 2020.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Whoa.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
2023, I made around 3 million.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Wow. I didn't expect you to do that.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
What do you mean? If I'm going to ask you to do it, I got to do it myself. And I don't do it to brag. I don't do it to do anything other than there's an episode coming out where I talk about it, I'll. How I did it, where I did it, I talk about the impressions behind my page, which is over half a billion in 2025. So there's a lot of moving parts. Branding. When I work with top, I'm working with Fortune 500 companies in finance and insurance and things that are very brand safe. So I have to be brand safe. So those numbers are bigger. So there's. I don't say it to. To pump my chest. I say it that we can learn from it.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. I will say, and maybe I'll ask you to cut this out later once I think about it, but I didn't make multiple millions, but I broke the seven figure threshold in 2025.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
You worked your Ass off doing it. What was the hardest thing to go through to get to that point?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, I don't know. I love what I do. So it's like such a fun job to go to a sharehouse in the Hamptons with your friends and film a TV show and then like, post on social media, do music. Music. I lose money again. But yeah, like, doing the brand deals is so fun. And it's a lot of not wear and tear, but it's mentally and emotionally and physically exhausting. Like, you're flying around the country all the time. You're going to events, and it's really fun. And I'm a very social guy and I really enjoy talking to people and meeting new people and meeting fans, but definitely draining.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
And I'm sure you feel that too.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
The thing about the job that's tough is every day you have to wake up and every day you have to be on top of it. You have to from a content perspective. You have to be creating, producing, thinking about editing. When it comes to a lot of these things are in real life experiences. So you have to live on a plane. You have to constantly be traveling to these spots.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
And I think with you, you have
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
to go on the fucking news and talk about.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I gotta go on the news. The markets. The markets and politics, what's going on. So it's interesting how things shift so quickly, but there's never a day off in this space, that's for sure. The other thing, too is, like, tomorrow. The hardest part about this is tomorrow it can end like tomorrow. They shut off one switch to one platform, one mistake, one thing, It's. It could be gone.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
It's not. There's no predictability in cash flow.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Totally. But since I enjoy it so much, like a Monday and a Saturday don't feel the same just because the energy of the week can change a lot. But I would do work on any day of the week because, like, my work is like anybody else's idea of a great time.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
100. Like, I. Yesterday was Sunday and I went to sleep, I said to my grandpa, I'm like, tape felt like a Monday.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I don't even know what day it is because I was a full work day. I think when you're really passionate about what you do and you love it, it doesn't. You just keep going full speed.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Let's talk about a little spending. So earnings have gone up. Last time you came on the show, you had two rents because you're keeping residency here in New York.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
You Said your combined rent at that time was 6K. I got to imagine those numbers are up big time.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, my combined rent now is 11.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Any takeaways? Learning lessons from the renting game, you can give listeners things to think about, things to consider.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I would tell people to run the numbers on renting versus buying because I've looked at buying condos, a house, and it just doesn't pencil out. You think with rent you're lighting money on fire, but when you buy, you have interest on your loan, HOA fees, insurance, you're lighting all that money on fire. So you know, obviously it depends on where, what you're buying, what the market's doing, all these different factors. But for me renting makes sense and I'm able to like also a down payment on the house, whatever. Say you buy million dollar house and it's a 20% down payment. I keep that 200 grand in the market and I'm making interest on that every year. That's compounding. So for me it just makes sense to, to rent 100%.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
People always say renting is throwing money away. And then if you look at a nice little T chart and you look at a mortgage, that's not throwing money away. And then you look at rent, okay, sure it's throwing money away. Go five line items down. When you talk about tax, repairs, cost of whatever, maybe it's furnished, maybe it's not like all these line items that you won't see a return on that are overpriced. Yeah, you're throwing away while owning a house versus renting. So I think that's a really good take. What's the worst? You're making a couple more bucks now. What's the worst expense you've made? Worse purchase, Worst investment in the last year and a half. I spent this amount I shouldn't have. It was dumb.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I guess we'll find out with these companies I invested in.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah, that's true. What about outside investments? Just like purchases. You go spend a crazy night out or a dinner or something. There a car that you regret.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Don't do stupid things with my money. Listen, I spend a lot, but I'm building a business and everything that I do is a business expense for the most part, maybe 80% because it's all like posting on social media and work related travel. So yeah, nothing comes to mind. Off the top of my head, I bought like a nice watch, but the watch holds value. I bought a nice car.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay, what would you say the best money move you made in the last year And a half. Like, the one thing you bought that you're like, I'm so proud of this. I love it. Or it will make it yield the best return.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I've lived in New York for a while, so I haven't had a car in a bit. And I'm sure I sound like a grandpa, but, like, the fact that your car just turns into an iPhone and you have, like, your music and your maps and, like, people are texting you and you're just, like, in this giant iPhone. It's, like, so comfortable and fast and, like, the speaker system's great. I'm just, like, driving isn't even a chore. I, like, enjoy getting in the car and listening to music.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
You don't bring that car up to New York, do you?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I think I'm going to drive it up.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Or you ship it up.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I think I'll ship it. Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Wow.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Let's go.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
We drive to the Hamptons every weekend. Might as well have a car.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Might as well. All right. I gotta be honest. If I had to attest one thing to my personal, professional and financial growth, I'd probably say it's therapy. But therapy can be expensive, I'm not gonna lie. And, you know, we talk money on this podcast. Finding one who actually takes your insurance. That's where most online platforms fall short. Many don't work with insurances at all, which means you're stuck paying the full cost out of pocket. Well, Rula does things differently. They partner with over 100 insurance plans, making the average copay just $15 per session. That's real therapy from licensed professionals at a price that actually makes sense. Think about it. You use your insurance benefits to maintain your physical health, so why wouldn't you do the same for your mental health? And Rula just isn't affordable. The experience is tailored around you. What I like most about Rula, too, is they really work with you to help you find the best therapy for you. And I could tell you, finding a therapist, it's like chemistry. It's like dancing. You gotta find the right one. And when you can find one with Rula, there are no wait lists, no frustrating, frustrating, back and forth. They make it easy. So here's what I want you to do. Thousands of people are already using Rula to get affordable, high quality therapy that's actually covered by insurance. Just visit rula.com tradingsecrets to get started. That's R U L A.com tradingsecrets. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against you. Do you Budget differently. It sounds like you're. It all makes sense, right? Like your EMV, your earned media values going up, time on TV is going up, your social media is up 350%. Tick tock169 on Instagram, all your numbers are up. Are you budgeting differently? Do you have any other rules when it comes to. We've talked a little about your rent in your car, but do you have any, like actual rules you live by or do you budget differently now that your earnings have gone up?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I'm trying to live similar to how I was living before I was making this amount of money. And if your expenses stay relatively the same and your income goes up, you're going to be saving a lot of money. And it's not about how much you make, it's about how much you keep. And so I'm a Florida resident. I save about 15 of my income by being based here. Everybody always thinks they're like, oh, so you spend six months in a day in Florida and that's not the rule. The rule is actually you can't spend six months in New York State because they're the ones who will tax you. And of course you need to be domiciled in Florida. You need to have a registered to vote in Florida and a lease here or own property. So there's all these things that you need to put in place. But the main rule is just don't be in New York for six months.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Understood. All right. There's a lot of people you talk about kids these days. Gen Alpha, Gen Z. Their dream is to be creators. You got millennials, Gen X and boomers who still kind of roll their eyes at the whole industry, but it's growing like at a crazy rate. 500 billion by 2030 will be the market size. Talk to me about this. You don't have to say the brand, but just to educate people on what a structure looks like. What are like maybe the. One of the best deals in 2025. And okay, I had to post or show up here and amount for you
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
got me one of the best deals in 2025.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
The agency did. I have ownership in an agency. Agency. And one of our agents got you one of the best deals. We won't say the brand but walk through like, can you. Are you comfortable sharing the amount, what you had to do for it?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
It was a lot of money. And you. There was a production day which. And it was a golf focused campaign. I love to golf. Shot an 88 yesterday. One of my, My best score ever. Yeah, I'm not, like, a great golfer, but that was really fun.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Breaking 90s. Beautiful.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. And so I just got to go to a golf course all day and film with Heather McMahon, and she's hilarious. And then they produce the assets, and I just need to hit post. So. That's a great deal.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
That's a great deal.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
And how many posts did you have to do on that one?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I think it was four Instagrams. It was supposed to be, like, an appearance, but the appearance got canceled, and then I had to do more stories. And so it kind of, like, ebbs and flows. It's still a little bit of the wild west in this whole social media marketing world, but is. It.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Is.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
It's definitely come a long way at the same time.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Can you give. I know you don't want to see the exact amount. Can you give us some kind of range or. Jason, five, six figures here?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I already come off, like, such a. On your show.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
No, you're educating.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, I'm educating. You can make six figures for a single brand. Deal.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay, now let's educate more. Go. And someone hears that and they're. They want to do it, Inspire them. How do they do it? What advice would you give someone if they wanted to get on digital and
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
social to start monetizing, start posting? I wish I started posting earlier. I took a break for, like, 10 years from Snapchat, and now I'm making money on Snapchat, which is a new
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
development I haven't got on there.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, you're missing out, brother.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
That's a good.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I don't know if it. How much.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
How much you post a dancer? Because don't you have to post all the time?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
JSall's 13. Follow your boy
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
posting.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, but the beautiful thing about Snapchat is it kind of like scratches the itch of posting for me because, like, I'm. I just to be myself. And on Instagram, I feel like you have to filter and just, like, only show, like, esthetic stuff. And Snapchat. I don't even watch what I record. I literally just record myself and talk to the phone and just upload it. So it is. It's fun in that way. And, yeah, like, the ROI of my time spent versus how much I make right now is a little lopsided, but I think eventually I could make lot from it.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay, sweet. That's cool.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
See, learning new stuff. You're teaching me stuff here.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
And it's a new avenue for every time I release a song, I have a whole other Community of viewers to promote it and help support and so it's just like a good thing to do, I think.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Dude, I love it. Let's talk about your music. So you kept saying during this interview that it's a passion but it's a losing endeavor at this point. Talk to me about the money and business behind the music industry and why it's a losing endeavor right now.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, so music is what I spend the majority of my time on these days and it just costs a lot of money to produce high quality stuff.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
What are the expenses?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
So if you're working with the right people, which I've been able to like network my way into the industry and at first I was paying for studio time, renting studios, paying people to like a flat fee to produce a song for me. As I've worked with better and better people, the way it works typically in the music industry is you go to somebody's studio, the producer has the studio. If it's in la, it's like probably in their garage, in their house and you make the song. And if you decide to put that song out, you have to advance the producer, their producer fee. So it can be anywhere from say $1500 to like big name producers, like 25, 50. It can get really expensive.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
So you invest. Let's just call it, let's just say it's 15 grand for that producer. You're getting studio time. Let's just say you're going all in, 30k on. Is that a song or how many songs?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yes. So that producer fee is an advance against future royalties on the streaming of that song.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Of that one song?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yes.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
So you'll hire a producer for. Let's just call it 5, 15K, whatever.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, it's not, it's not hiring. It's. If you decide to put that record out, you have to advance them their fee so you can work together, you can write five songs, you can all hang out and have fun and it's basically like they're believing in you as an artist, that you have potential and they're going to spend their time with you and you're all going to be in the studio together and that's a sunk cost. But hopefully we all make a piece of art that is worthy of releasing.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
How is the art of the song paid back to you? Is it streams?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yes. So there's two parts, there's the master recording and there's the publishing. And so if there's three people in a room, you split the songwriting typically like 33% each between artist, songwriter, producer. And it can vary. And this is. I learned about this in school, but I'm like, relearning how it all actually works in the real world now, which has been great.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
And then you did a show and I unfortunately couldn't make it. We did a show in New York. How does that work? Do you get a portion of ticket sales or is that only branding and content?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yes. So a show is. You typically get a guarantee.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Which is, for me right now, like, pretty low.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
And then what's low?
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
5k. Ish.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
No, dude. I'm about to go on tour and spend five weeks in a sprinter van, like, driving around the country and hoping not to lose money. Wow. Yeah. It's like a total investment in your future and just like, getting out there, performing in front of people, creating fans, like, showing people that I'm a real artists.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
What kind of venues do you perform?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I'm trying not to skip steps. I'm trying to do this as any developing artist would. And how much better am I going to be at performing for a live crowd after doing it 18 times across the country?
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
A lot better.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Like, I'm. If I somehow, like, have a viral hit, which would be awesome. And just did MSG out of nowhere, like, the show would suck because I wouldn't have put in the reps. Do
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
you get nervous when you perform?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah, I think everyone does, right? Yeah. What do you do to calm the nerves?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I breathe in and then I breathe out for longer than I breathe in.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Do you have a second hold for three seconds?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
No, no hold. I don't do a hold. I just.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Have you ever had, like, on TV or singing, have you ever had a moment where you're like a full panic attack?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
No, but I've thought about what it would be like if I did. It doesn't sound good.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I've had some of those before, like in work. I've had those at big meetings or like on tv. I have a thought. Especially with the business stuff. I know exactly where my brain's going and I just. Totally blank.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Like, my heart just goes 100 miles an hour. It's the worst feeling in the world.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. Forgetting what you want to say is miserable. I did come in here with a stat for you because I know you're a big numbers guy.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Let's hear it.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
There are a hundred thousand songs released on streaming every day.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
What?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
So for me, it's like, what am I gonna do to differentiate myself as an artist? The barrier to entry has become so low with anybody Just being able to upload their music and be a bedroom producer and just buy the equipment. And I guess back in the day in the music business, people would tour to show off their music and create fans and get people to be a fan of what they're doing. And then it flip flopped to where people would stream. And once you started streaming enough, then you would go on tour to make money. And now it's like reverting back to the OG way where, like, people are getting out and touring to, like, because people are craving that real experience and to, like, connect with people and go to live shows.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
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Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Listen, I've got three songs that I'm really confident in that I'm gonna release before May. I think in five years. The goal is like, to be able to do an arena and like, yeah, that would be like grand slam. Blow it out of the park. I think a realistic goal would be to, like, be able to do theaters and in, in the thousands of people. Like, right now I'm targeting like 300, 400 person venues. And I sold out my show in New York, which I feel very fortunate. It was 10:30 in Brooklyn on a Tuesday and like, the place was. The energy was incredible.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Let's go.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
So much fun. All right.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
We're manifesting good stuff here.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
But I lost nine grand on that show.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Interesting.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
On a sellout because I hired high level musicians and I did a lot of rehearsals because I wanted. As my first show, I wanted. I didn't just get kids from NYU and practice the night before. Like, I had four multi hour rehearsals ahead of the show.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
You paid nine grand to perform?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yes.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Wow.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
But I still sold. I still made money from the venue, but I probably made five or six grand and I spent like 14 or something.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Wow. Worth it.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. Showed me I could do it.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
You sure could do it.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
It builds the brand.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I love it. Let's go, you guys.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
So hopefully I can get a sponsor if you guys want to.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah, yeah, we'll get you a sponsor. If anyone out there wants to sponsor
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Jesse, if any brands want to get involved in the tour.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Take that sprinter van and just wrap it with.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, I'm thinking about, like streaming the whole tour or like making YouTube content or something. I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
All right. One of the last things we gotta wr with his personal life, man. Any hard, fast dating rules or things you're looking for in a partner?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I would say the thing I've been missing is a career woman. Somebody who's got something going on, whether it's like entrepreneur, creative, even like an influencer. Somebody where we can like, work off of each other and help each other and support each other.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Are you looking for someone that's as passionate about their career as you, or are you looking for someone that's. That's in your space also doing what you're doing? Both.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I think it doesn't need to be
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
like music spoken from experience.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. Maybe that's.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I'm talking about in the same industry, obviously.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I've always been very. My mom's been a role model for me. She's always been so passionate about her work and she's so motivated professionally. And so I've always wanted that and a partner too.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
But. Which is awesome. And I have that. But dating in the industry.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. Congrats. It's very hard on having.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Oh, thank you.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
It's amazing.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah. You've met her.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Let's go.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
She was great. Yeah. She almost had me adopting a dog on the spot.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
There's two things you Almost adopted a dog. You're going to be a foster. And then they're like, I think you closed out with. You're like, do you know any other pretty do you know any other pretty girls that work at your rescue or start your rescue? I'll take your referral.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I think I just want somebody who's passionate about anything.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah. I love it.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
They're excited about what they're doing.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Rip it. Do you have a take on prenups?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I'm not anti prenup.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
My parents don't have one, but they're together.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Do you have any hard and fast rules when it comes to love and money?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I used to be of the mindset not to mix friendships or relationships with business. But now as my circle grows and shrinks at the same time, like my closer people I need to be able to trust. And I'm also making so many new cool friends. I'm more open to mixing friendships with with business and potentially love interests with business. But I never have.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I always say I lived in a world where you siloed those. Break those walls down. It's all the same foundation. Personal life, professional life, financial life. You break it down. It all makes you who you are and what you do and how you do it. Speaking of professional life, though, let's talk about reality tv. Other shows you would love to your single. Would you go on the Bachelor? Would you be the bachelor? Would you have gone on Taylor, Frankie, Paul season? Would you go on other shows? Talk to me.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I'm a Bravo guy. I'm an NBC guy. So I'm enjoying being on Summer House right now and seeing where how the show evolves. I think we're going to learn a lot this summer. Next summer. I love Traders. That's a fun one that I would. I think I would either be great or terrible at.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I agree with that. There would be no middle.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Be the best or the absolute worst. Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I'm like not good at lying, but maybe just make me a faithful so like I don't have to lie.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
And then.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I would never say no to being the bachelor.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I would love to see that. It'd be so good. All right.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I'm dating like 20 hot girls at the same time.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
A recipe for unbelievable tv.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Oh, no.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
What about in the city, the spin off of Summer House? Was that something you wanted to be on? Bummed that you weren't. How did that go?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
No, I think it's the natural evolution of the people that have been on Summer House for ten years. Like their Lives are changing and. And Bravo. NBC figured out a way to follow that and they want to follow our lives. And for me, the summer house fits my lifestyle and I think it's like a great way to see what I've got going on. But it is just like weekends in the summer. As I get older, it could be nice to be on a show where they follow more of my day to day. But for now, summer house is great.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah. One of the questions I have on this season is I don't think it's up for debate. I think a consensus everyone can agree on is that Paige to Sorble is a star. She just. She's become an absolute star. And then there's a lot of speculation that her not being on this season could really hurt the ratings. Do you think that'll have an impact?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
We missed Paige, but. And I love Paige and she's crushing it. But it also was a different vibe in the house.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Real quick. And we're about to wrap here. But when you say the vibes. Different vibes, how have the vibes been different?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
We, Amanda and Sierra went out with us.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
More partying.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah. Sierra and Amanda came out because if there's three of them, it was easier for them to all just be together and chill. If it was just two of them, we were like, come on, come out. And so the house, like went out and got after it.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I didn't know Sierra and I got to sit next to her at Remy Bader's holiday party. She is fucking awesome.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
The best.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Like, absolutely love that girl. Her energy, her vibe, her humor. Like, she is electric.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, she's good people. She keeps me in check.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I've learned so much.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
But she's so important from friends. Like, you need that.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Yeah.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
She's very mature for her age. And yeah, she's been a good friend.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Okay. So season eight, we talked a lot about the cancer that you had gone through. It was a big part of your story. Then we're now in season 10. Your platform has changed and it's always continued and will be part of your story. And I'm also seeing you're doing some not for profit and you're making greater impact within those realms. Talk to me a little bit about how that continues to shape you and what you want to continue to do to serve those communities.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, I've been able to do work with Robert Kraft's organization. What's up with hate and fight anti Semitism and just grow closer with my Jewish community, which has been really rewarding. I Think just seven years out from cancer. I just feel like a different person. Season 8. Jesse, back to your asking. Earlier, I was still like, hadn't gotten my five year all clear and so I was like, much closer to having gone through cancer twice. And now that I'm like over seven years out, I think I'm freer and just like, able to take. Take dating more seriously and be intentional with that. Look forward to the future more as opposed to, like being scared about the future.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
It's incredible. It's awesome what you're doing, especially like using your platform and Bravo. Right? To be able to continue to drive impact. Last question I got for you on this topic. Any type of advice you'd give to men out there as it relates to proactively checking for testicular cancer?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Like different checkups.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
What would you say if you feel something out of the ordinary or anything that's changed, go to the doctor. Go get your physical every year. Get your blood work done. Like, our mom stopped telling us to go to the doctor every year. Once we, like, go to college and become adults, you gotta remember to do yourself exams and go get your physicals.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I love it. Great advice. Keep making good impact. There's one thing we gotta end with here. Last time you sang for us. I'm gonna need some kind of song. It could be Trading Secrets. Could be about our friendship. It could be about you. It could be about life. Just like one little quick. Jesse Solomon, sing off. Can you give us something? A little jingle?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, let me think of a rhyme.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
And he's also. I want to preface this. He's also a little hoarse right now because he was cheering on the Chicago Bears last screaming, no excuses. Play like a champion. Excuses. Play like a champ. All right.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
I think we should record, like a real jingle of for your. Do you have an intro?
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
I do, but I'd be so down to change it.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Yeah, we could do something fun. Trading Secret. Trading Secret. Maybe a little long. You can learn about money with your friend Jason.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
All right, we'll take it. Now I think we have something to look forward to. We had Trading Secrets. It's jingle Jesse Solomon. I'm so excited to watch season 10. I'm so excited. You're killing it in all areas of life.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Thank you for having me.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Good things are coming. I could just feel it when I have guests. I could feel the energy. I feel like 2026. 2027 too. I think 2027 is going to be the biggest year of your life. 2026 is going to be big though. I feel the energy. Where can everyone find everything you have going on so they could follow that?
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
My Instagram's Jesse Sauls J S S E S O L s same with TikTok. Snapchat J s o l s 13 and yeah, that's pretty much it. Find me on Summer house. Bravo season 10 premiere February 3rd, I think 8pm Eastern. On a Tuesday.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
On a Tuesday. Tuesday's your day. I will tell you. 18 months. This man has grown in so many ways. Can't wait to see what the next 18 months look like. Jesse Solomon thank you for being on training.
Jesse Solomon (Guest)
Thank you for having.
Jason (Interviewer/Host)
Me. That money, living that dream, making that money, making that money, living that dream.
Trading Secrets Ep. 288: Jesse Solomon—Summer House, 7-Figure Creator & Turning Fame Into a Business
Podcast Host: Jason Tartick
Guest: Jesse Solomon
Release Date: April 6, 2026
In this dynamic episode, Jason Tartick sits down with Jesse Solomon, known for his role on Bravo’s “Summer House.” Since leaving a finance career, Jesse’s leveraged reality TV fame to build a multi-faceted business as a creator, investor, and now a touring musician. The conversation dives into turning fleeting fame into sustainable success, the realities and challenges of public scrutiny, how to monetize influence, investing habits, and the ups and downs of creator life. They pull back the curtain on money, mindset, music, and why authenticity is still the ultimate currency.
Rapid Rise in Influence
The Reality of Reality TV
Advice to His Former Self
Dealing with Negativity
Authenticity as Power
Learning from Feedback
Update on Business Ventures (Finance, Startups, Investing)
On Social Media & Brand Partnerships
Breaking into 7-Figures: Candid Earnings & What It’s Like
Spending & Budgeting
Tax Strategy
Brand Deals: The Money Behind the Posts
The TikTok/Snapchat Expansion
Music as a ‘Losing Endeavor’ (for Now)
Career Vision
Memorable Stat
Dating, Love, and Money
Using Fame for Good
| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------|--------------| | Jesse’s growth since last episode | 02:53–03:29 | | Reality of filming Summer House | 04:24–05:52 | | Opening up about mental health | 06:11–06:56 | | On following a passion (music) | 07:42–08:54 | | Impact of public scrutiny | 09:27–11:08 | | Social media as a business | 22:01–24:48 | | Breaking into 7-figures | 25:54–26:07 | | Renting vs buying | 28:34–29:29 | | On being strategic with taxes | 33:15–34:04 | | Brand deals, influencer advice | 34:46–37:07 | | Economics of music/being on tour | 37:31–41:06 | | $9k loss on sold-out show | 44:46–45:17 | | Personal life, dating, values | 45:50–47:15 | | Cancer impact and giving back | 50:58–52:26 |
Jesse improvises a “Trading Secrets” jingle about the show and friendship with Jason:
“Trading Secret. Maybe a little long. You can learn about money with your friend Jason.” (53:01–53:20)
Summary Tone & Vibe:
Funny, candid, revealing, and deeply motivational—Jesse and Jason aren’t afraid to talk specifics around money, feelings, and fame. The conversation is a goldmine (with lots of honest laughter) for anyone aspiring to use influence well, chase big dreams, or simply keep it real under the pressure of public life.