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A
Yo, Traditional av. If you're not smoking traditional, you got the wrong medicinal. It's the podcast live. We about to take them to the movie theater. Biggest in the game. I had it down on the centerpiece. You had this.
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B
All right. So ab, you know, a lot of people, family.
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A
Yes.
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B
They be introducing you first as, you know, this huge football player, this, you know, this icon of people that have, you know, you know, all your stats and your traits. I'd rather introduce you as the person I personally know, which is a super cool dad. You know, a real genuine human being. My really close, genuine friend who supported me from the very beginning. We made some serious movies together, me and you Beaters. And, you know, I just, you know, just want to. We'll start off naturally. Like, we got these joints right here. Should we spark one of these up?
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A
Let's try. JB has oil.
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B
Let's do it.
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A
Blue Scotty.
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B
It's a Blue Scotty. Hash. Hash hole.
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A
Traditional part way.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Here with my friend Aaron, man. JB Joy, you know, Aaron, take care of everyone, man. He got the best buddy, best environments. Here at Traditional, it's always a blessing for me to come here, chill with you, smoke with you, see what you're working on, see the team.
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B
And you've been rocking with me from, you know, the very beginning. Like, we rock with each other, you know? And it's funny because we got so many stories. I mean, one cool. One. One cool. Like, one of many. I remember when we were both going to the Super Bowl.
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A
Yes.
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B
For the Rams. And I was like, hey, B. I was like, you going to super bowl yet? You're like, hey, just pull up with me. We go to the Super Bowl.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And then you, Kanye West, Lamar Jackson, and Justin the boy, y' all took me to the Super Bowl Sunday service.
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A
And we're right to the Super Bowl Sunday service. Came to the same room. We was working on Dunda 2, right here at the Soho downtown. Remember that day you picked me up last day from the damn Soho with Kanye. I didn't even know where my super bowl ring was. Remember we packing up the room, you find a Super bowl ring under the bed.
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B
Oh, yeah. And we thought somebody had taken it.
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A
Yeah. We didn't know where that was at.
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B
Because you were there at the Soho House recording with Donda, Kanye. All them were there. And when I had picked you up, we were already checking out of the hotel, and it was crazy. I had seen your setup, how you guys were recording. I never seen nothing like that. Just in the hotel room. Right there, there.
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A
Creative space. It was a good vibe, good energy, a lot of people around. So it's the traditional way, man. You always come through in the clutch. You've been my friend for over a couple. Couple years seem like forever, but you always been there. That one of the classic moments, like damn consistency.
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B
So like let's start off the podcast cuz we're so comfortable with each other and I feel like I would get more genuine answers out of you than anybody. And yes. So like started back from like cannabis, right? Like when's the first time you ever smoked weed? How old were you? Where did you get it from? Was it good weed? That's what I want to start off with.
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A
I feel like the first time I smoked weed probably was like 17 in high school. I probably was just smoking that. One of my friends, that was my friend Nick stayed in my neighborhood. I feel like we had some weed. I feel like I got mad. I got so hot one time. I think they wasn't as good. Tried to take me to the hospital. Like you ever got that high, you like, yo, I feel up. I feel like sick or such, like all panicky. The anxiety, anxiety, the heart beating to the hospital. Then I was in the lobby just like, yo, I'm high as. It was like one of those moments. It was like one of the moments as a kid where you getting high and I really couldn't handle it. But like it was something to laugh.
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B
And what kind of weed was it? Was it was it.
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A
I think it was some local weed, man. It wasn't no traditional. I feel like I was just young and ready to know what I was doing. It just got way too high.
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B
Yeah. And you know, so from that, like I know like, you know you're massive football player.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So like in the NFL, like what. How did you first start playing football? Let's go there.
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A
Well, I grew up, you know, my dad was a football player. My dad was touched down. Eddie Brown, he's the greatest player in the NFL in the AFL league over Kurt Warner. So I grew up watching my dad play football. I started playing football around like six years old, all the way up to £65, £145. Low league. Football been always a part of my life. Growing up playing sports with my brother, my dad play football, my mom loving football. So football was always a part of my life. But I feel like I use football to be able to get better in my life, show my talents and be able to take care of my family. You know what I mean? I think Football was an outlet for me to show my talents and be my best self, because you get that competitiveness and competition and I always wanted to be.
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B
Who was your team growing up? Like, who was your real favorite football team growing up?
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A
I used to like the Cowboys to be for real. I used to like Emmett Smith, Deion Sanders, Michael Irving, Troy. Amen. I feel like they always won and bought energy, so for me, I always liked it. The Cowboys, growing up as a kid, seeing them win Super Bowls, I feel like my room as a kid was a cowboy room. My man. I like cowboy stickers all over the room.
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B
And now you're friends with all these guys, right?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Isn't that kind of crazy? You watch them as a kid growing up and now you, you know, essentially beating some of their stats? No.
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A
Yeah, exactly. And that's all it's about, you know, being a kid and manifesting, dreaming and having aspirations, you know, that's what it's about, you know, as a kid, having that vision of putting yourself in that position of wanting to be that grateful, you know, start with you as a kid, believing in yourself and making those goals and making those commitments to do the training, to recover yourself, Just work on your game.
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B
I like that. And growing up in Liberty, right?
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A
Liberty City. Miami.
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B
Yeah, Liberty City. How was that? How was it growing up in Liberty?
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A
I mean, growing up in Liberty City was tough. You know, there's a lot of distraction. But to me, it was really what you made it. You know, obviously it was a drug type neighborhood, sell a lot of drugs. We had like a gang, drug gang charged John Doe indicted, where people went to jail from just neighborhood guys trying to make money selling drugs. But for me, you know, growing up in Liberty City was an opportunity to, you know, I mean, help me take my family and put them in another spot. You know, my grandmother came from the Bahamas, lived in Liberty City, and that's where my family really originated. Right in Liberty City. But for me, it was like I wanted to be something better than just a local guy or drug dealer guy locally. You know, seeing my dad play football, seeing my uncle be into football, I feel like that always inspired me, you know what I'm saying, to see how my family looked at what I was doing in football, see how my dad played. So to me, it was always a badge of honor that I took. Like, yo, I want to be a player, and I'm gonna do whatever it takes to make that happen.
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B
And so how did you get signed? How did you, like, how did they. They approach you or.
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A
Yeah, So I went to Central Michigan University. I came out early as a junior. So agent called Drew Rosenhaus, he had one of his assistants actually come to Central Michigan and was like, I think I got a good chance to be drafted. And it was like next year, 2011, it was going to be a lockout. So the NFL with the draft wouldn't be. You won't be able to get a fair chance if it was a lockout in 2011. So I think I came out in 2010. I got drafted six round and the rest was history. So to me it was always about putting myself in the best position and, and going to college, get that next step to go to NFL. And when I finally got the next step, I got drafted 6th round right out of Central Michigan and obviously grateful for the opportunity and love.
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B
Best sense, amazing. And when you're in football, right, I know you got injuries. I mean I've been with you to the doctor for your foot myself, so I've seen all that and we'll get to that too. But like when you get injured in the NFL, I know they, they test you for cannabis, right? I know now cannabis now, now it's legal, but in your day they were testing for heavy, for cannabis for sure, right? Were they trying to give you like different kinds of pain pills and trying to give you like what Oxys, Percocets, Vicodins.
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A
I mean depending on your pain, they gonna prescribe you anything. You know, except for me, I always did marijuana. I don't really like never prescribing no drugs or no type of pain pills because those could affect your long term health. So for me, marijuana was always a way to feel good and put my peace, put me at peace. If it's physically hurting or mentally you want to feel good. You know, marijuana was always my like lean to, but you got to balance it, you know, back in my time with just making sure you good, not hold so much in your system. Because I feel like the levels of marijuana, I think they was raising them up just so guys wouldn't get, you know what I'm saying? Caught for pop for weed, now it's legal because I feel like they understand marijuana is better than Vicodin or any other pain drug that could prescribe you. So for me, you know, I encourage players to smoke weed, get you some traditional, pray, meditate, stretch, just help your mental health, physically mental and spiritual.
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B
I love that you said that because I feel like you're such a big influence to all these guys, man. Like everybody looks at you a lot of these players. And, you know, you gotta think these doctors, it's the easiest thing is just write a prescription for Percocet, write a prescription for Vicodin. But for so many years, they're forcing these guys saying, actually kill. Cannabis is the drug and cannabis is the gateway drug. Now we smoke weed together, we're hanging out, we're laughing, we're good time people. You know, we get, you know, people will get drunk, they get in the car, they get a car accident, they kill someone, they want to fight, you know. So it's kind of. It's kind of crazy to me that the NFL wouldn't legalize cannabis for medical use. Especially since, you know, cannabis in so many states has been legal for medical. Like California pass Proposition 215 SB420 to be legal to grow cannabis for medical reasons only since 1996. So from 1996, it's always been legal for medical, but since it's federal, they always try to come in with the opioids and the, you know, they're trying to say that, you know, painkillers are the solution to pain. But to have a voice, someone like you, to tell people, hey, look, like, don't take, you know, OxyContin, don't take Vicodin. Like, you can smoke cannabis. And it's. It's cool. They actually pop so many people in the NFL for cannabis. You know it. How many people got suspended?
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A
A lot of guys. A lot of guys who, you know, been having in their system, you know, it's. The NFL is a big business. You gotta play by the rules. So I think NFL understand that concept. Like you just explain. I think they get it now because weed is actually legal in the NFL, they're not testing players for marijuana. So I think they're encouraging the medicinal health improvement the guys incur. Improving and healing. From a medical medicinal standpoint, do you.
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B
Think cannabis helped your mental health?
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A
For sure. I think cannabis just make you dial into your purpose a little bit more and put you in a state where kind of feeling good, especially if you got a lot of work to do and you're trying to relax. I feel like it helps you unwind and not take it, carry it on as a burden. Just handle it a little better, let your anxiety relax, especially if you smoke the right kind.
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B
So are these so saying about mental health? You know, do you saying that cannabis helps with mental health? I think that's huge because a lot of people have a real misconception about. About you, you know, a lot. I think it's really important to address the misconception about you because like I said, like I always tell people, this is, you know, you can't judge a book by its cover. Like, if people really know the real Antonio Brown, they would. They would be like, no, no way. They. They said this in the media. They said that in the media. So I think it's, you know, having, you know, like, for instance, cte. Right. Do you think you have cte?
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A
I don't hope so.
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B
I mean, you have cte, espn.
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A
I feel like we all got a little trauma in our life, and we could call it, you know, either you've been hit or you dealt with something that broke your heart, or there's a moment in your life that you went through that you can't get over. I feel like we all face traumas. And being a football player, I'm a public figure. You know, it's a responsibility. As a public figure, you got to be able to deal with scrutiny. You got to be able to deal with criticism, and that's part of being a leader. I think that's where President Trump, you know, imagine how much scrutiny he had to deal with. Imagine how much hate he had to deal with. You know, I feel like it just comes with being a public, public figure. You know, anytime you're a football player, you're famous, and you walk off the field and do stuff that people may not understand or they might think is wow or it's crazy. You know what I'm saying? I feel like you could be deemed as you got ct, but I feel like as a human being, as a person, as a spiritual being, we all, as humans, go through different things that we may carry or we might still hold on to. And that's a part of getting therapy. And that's a part of why I started ctsvn, because I feel like the greatest people have to go through the.
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B
Greatest test and adversity.
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A
Exactly. And it's a part of.
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B
It's not about how hard you fall. It's how you get back up.
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A
It's not even about falling. It's just about being aware of what you're dealing with. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people can't handle dealing with a lot of trauma, dealing with a lot of, you know, criticism is answered with achievement. It's not about what people say. It's about what we do. And I feel like if you didn't have haters or nobody, didn't have no one hating them, it wouldn't pre eminent the best of them. And it won't. It should show you if you got people hating you, doing the right things, imitation, preeminence, flattery. And some things are not better off misunderstood, you know what I mean? Not everything's not for everybody. And in life you can't really focus on what everybody say. It's about what we do. So if I say I'm gonna kill somebody right now, it's not true, it's about what you do. You know, people say different stuff all the time. The news don't got a code of ethics where they gotta follow a certain rule or right to protect. It's just like whatever they put out there, promote. That's what it is. So for me, it's about keeping a good mental health and showing people like yourself who successful or what type of traumas you face. I'm sure you face trauma. You got like, how many people here working? 70, 80, you got 150 workers. How is the trauma of dealing with that 150 different people you gotta deal with?
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B
I'm in the cannabis industry and it's the number one regulated industry to me, I think one of the most. More regulated than alcohol, more regulated than a casino, more regulated than anything. So I'm dealing with adversity all the time, dealing with, you know, the ups and downs of, you know, local governments, taxes. Believe it or not, I've done a lot of, you know, lobbying for better policies for cannabis. I'm trying to save my industry right now. I'm doing everything, everything I can. And speaking of my industry, like just having you talk about cannabis and legal cannabis license, you know, legal cannabis, that's what my industry needs right now. We need eyes on our industry. We need the world to know that, you know, you can get really good, amazing, legal, licensed cannabis from dispensaries and there's dope brands out there that can provide that. And, you know, a lot of people are silent. They don't, you know, you don't really know who's getting their weed from where and if it's, you know, laced or got poison or if it's clean. Good thing about our industry is it's super regulated. So they're testing all the cannabis to make sure don't have no pesticides and, you know, you're not going to like grow a third nipple or something, you know. But now I feel like the industry.
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A
Need more awareness and I feel like I'm a testament to the awareness of being able to deal with people saying, yo, he walked off the field, he crazy smoking Traditional. We had the Soho with Kanye west recording music. So I feel like marijuana put you in a state of focus where you could just dial in on what's your vision and what's important to you, you know what I mean? Because everyone will always have something to say sometimes about just dialing in is your purpose and your feelings and your hearts and what you deem as true and go after what you want. I feel like the cannabis could really dial you in if you get the best grain, like traditional, you know. This is my favorite one right here. This orange jar right here. Gelato. Yo, zoom in on this. This right here. I think this shit was like my thing therapist when my girlfriend left me. This was like my lady. Like, when I needed to get at night. This was like my.
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B
Oh, it be the best. So why did you walk off the field ab.
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A
Yo, football gonna come to an end and everything.
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B
The real, though, like, the world really wants to know.
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A
You want the real?
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B
Yeah. I don't. Not what nobody got. I want what your brother. Right here from traditional. You're gonna tell the world why you walked off the field, what really happened and the true story of what happened that day.
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A
I just feel like in the time of what I did, what I did was like, sometimes we do things as people and people want to know why. What's the why? It's like, yo, I'm not a mortal human being. Where I got unlimited health, let's say that. All right, So I can't just play football for like, you know. Know how long I played football? Let me count it. I played football since I was 6 years old, every summer till I was like 32. That's 27 years. I'm 36 right now. That's my whole life. You see what I'm saying? I've been playing football at the park professionally since six years old, right? I actually played for free more than I actually played to get paid. When you focus on football, it's about a career. My career. I think I checked off every box that you envision of. Of being a player. Lead the. Led the NFL and catches. Checked off. Led the NFL and yards. Checked off. Led the NFCL and touchdowns. Checked off. Am I. Do I lead the receipt. The Steelers receiver. And all time yardage out of every receiver is there. Checked off how I made the Pro bowl, four of them. Checked off how I won the Super Bowl. Checked off. So as a man in life who haven't lived life from a regular human being state. I'm not a robot. I'm not an Earth Body. I'm not a crash out. I'm not crash Bandicoot. I played football to make a life, not to ruin my life, you know what I'm saying? I played football to make a life.
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B
And at the time I knew what was happening with your foot. I knew your foot was up at that time. I seen it because we went to the doctor together with the X, the X ray. Yeah. So I seen the whole situation with the foot exactly. After the field. So.
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A
And that's what happened in football is like football got its own news station, you know what I'm saying? It's not like the news, it's just football entertainment. But they make it like the news station. So anything they report negative on it on their news station. It's like everyone take nothing wrong with it, but the real truth is like, yo, I can't play hurt for a team that's not trying to do things that's evitable in football. But you a 12 year player, you 32 years old, playing with a team on a one year contract, you got no insurance of no next year or at this point it's like you're one and done. You see a lot of players now go to so many different teams for one year deals. It's like, yo, team, I'm hurt. You still want me to play hurt. You don't want to wait to miss a couple games, the last two games of the year so we can be ready for the playoffs. They give us the best opportunity to win the Super Bowl. The coach said, I mean I was basic instruction. You got a great player, right? He's hurt, maybe give him two weeks to recover and then you get him ready for the playoffs because we could be able to win the Super Bowl. Now when I see the coach not willing to do what's right, only not only for my career, for the team.
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B
For your health, for my health, you.
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A
Know what I'm saying? Because I mean being a football player, you may have to play hurt. Like I don't mind toughing it up and doing the right things, taking one for the team because they need the energy I put out there. But when the team not having my back and they're not willing to do what's the goal? I thought for playing football was to win a Super bowl, not to play hurt players while they hurt. So anytime the team didn't really see eye to eye for the win is like, yo, at this point there's no need for my services and me to be here because I'm not trying to hurt Myself more. I'm not finna crash out. I hear for the coach that don't want to win the Super Bowl. So I think in that moment, I put myself in the right position. I mean, I just want a Super Bowl. Last year, like, how she wanted to leave. Imagine I finished the year, we don't win. And it's like, yo, you go home and it's like, yo, you gonna play again? It's a whole nother thing. I feel like me walking off, I feel like gave America the type of hope people need, you know, I mean, just the courageousness, the boldness and the means that necessary to stand for yourself. Everybody go through traumas and, you know, go face some type of adversity. How are we overcoming? Are you standing in the face of adversity and fighting, or you gonna walk away, make it better? I just did what's best for me. Anytime you're doing what's best for you in the world, as one, you do what's best for someone else. It's always gonna come with scrutiny. But I think for my mental health, I deal with it, right? And I was at peace with it. You know what I mean? And I had sex before the game too. So love, of course, that was a theater. Bust a nut. Leave it. Half. Half the work. What a feeling.
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B
I love you so. Yeah, that's just too funny that you said so ab you. I got to imagine, yeah, you lost a ton of money. You gave up. You put a crazy amount of money on the table for that moment of basically telling the world that, hey, you know, I want. Look how courageous I am. It's not about money. It's not about. Because think about it. You could have went back and like you said, you could have went back in that game. You might have. You know, I think I forever injured your foot.
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A
Even crazy part, I actually made more money in that year, man. I feel like when I walked off in New York, I made like 100,000 that weekend. Right there. I was playing for the bucks for a salary of like 2 million I already got before I signed. I did a 1 million salary. They did a 1 million address and a 2 million bonus. So really, my salary that was guaranteed. They already paid me 3 mil. I had a million for the whole season that was guaranteed. So it was like 4 mil access taxes, like 2 miles. I signed with Kanye west, the head of Donna, for two mil. You know, I mean, I did the podcast with the Simvis podcast for 25, 000. I did three clubs in New York that weekend. And I flew over here with the private jet and freaking.
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B
I know I got you off the plane.
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A
Hit me off the plane with the traditional. We got the picture.
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B
Yeah, we did.
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A
What deal we did? We did a fashion nova deal with Rich. I did a half a mil fashion nova deal with Rich. Soon I came to la. When I walked off the field feel. So I feel like it wasn't even about losing, approving none. It was just about doing what's best for me in that point. I feel like a lot of people spun it a lot of different ways because I feel like when people. When stuff happened, everyone entitled to their opinion on how they feel about it and what was the cause of a speculation because it's so viral. So it's like to me, I feel like as a football player, nobody really tell the real story because football is ran by news network network controlled by the NFL. If you're not in the NFL, they're not gonna make you look like a normal human being. You know what I'm saying?
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
But I feel like if I could do it all again, I probably walk out of my drawers and just probably give my pants away to one of the fans. Feel me leave out how it came out on top missionary.
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B
So you think you guys would have won that year?
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A
Yeah, we won last year. I feel like. Yeah.
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B
You think you would have won?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Do you think they just would have gave you another couple weeks, you would have been back on the field?
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A
Of course I would have been right.
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B
Back, would have got that second.
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A
I'd have been ready to go second win, charged up a little bit more, recovered, ready to do the same thing we decided to do last year, win the Super Bowl.
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B
So another subject, speaking of the, you know, if you were going to win or not going to win, you know, it was like you and Tom Brady were. You guys were the. The goats. Right. It was Shaq and Kobe right there for football. Right. So what happened with that? What, what, what? What's the real truth with Tom Brady and your relationship with Tom Brady? And I know you were staying with him, you were working out with him, you guys were, you know, super boys. And then there's all this stuff in the media. I know you like to clown a lot because you funny and, you know, just. How did you meet Tom Brady? What was the first time you met Brady? Tell me the story.
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A
The first time I met Tom Brady was probably 2011 playing with the Steelers. You know, playing with the Steelers, we always have a lot of great battles with the Patriots. And, you know, Tom Is the guy for the Patriots the quarterback. So I feel like we had always a mutual relationship with just being good players, being late round picks blossoming. But I got a chance. I had signed to Oakland in, like, 2019, and I was like, man, I'm over here for a lot of money. And I'm like, man, I don't think Oakland gonna be the spot to, like, win a Super Bowl. So I got a call from Bill Belichick, like, yo, we're gonna do whatever it takes to get you to the Patriots. So I came to the Patriots in 2019. I think I played, like one game, played against the Dolphins. I led the team. And I feel like that's when I really get to got to know Tom Brady, because you know what I'm saying, that's when the first time, like, I'm playing on a team with him, you see what I'm saying? He see me how I come to work every day, see how I pick up the plays. He see how, you know, go about my business. So I feel like during that time, when he met me, 2019, when I played for the Patriots, I think I came from, like, week two to week three. So the NFL actually released me from for the whole year, suspended me because I had been to the Steelers, the Raiders. I was leaving so many teams and trying to put myself in the best position to win the Super Bowl. I ended up being on the team with the pictures in 2019, playing one game with Tom leading the team. I think he just fell in love. It's just like, yo, this dude, ab.
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B
Serious work ethic, personality, everything, bring it to the table.
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A
I need this guy energy around. So I end up staying tight with him the whole 2019, the whole offseason. After the season we got together, he like, yo, we need to make a plan to come back to the NFL. Man, you're gonna help me win the Super Bowl. End up going to Tampa in 2020. So we end up. I think they suspended me to, like, eight games into 2020. So I was able to come back in 20, 20, 20 in the ninth game, and then we end up winning the Super Bowl.
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B
I know.
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A
So it was a blessing to just, you know, meet up with Tom Brady and just, you know, actually make a goal and actually accomplish, you know, anytime you could get with a special guy like Tom and just, you know, make a plan to get things in order and actually fulfill that plan. You know, that was pretty unique. So I come back, we win the super bowl, we go crazy, all that. And then it was just like, Madness, you know what I'm saying? I think 20, 21, a lot of things were different. Just coming back to the team and not getting paid or getting when I felt like I deserved. And then, like, I just felt like it was a lot of, you know, a lot of football players, you know, in life, they're gonna. It's just like your compadres gonna work with them in the midst of for what you work with them for. But end of the day, you go back to their lives. They got their own lives. And everybody after their career is not gonna be friends and hang out. It's like, but I got respect for Tom Brady. I'm really grateful for Tom Brady, you know, giving me the opportunity to come back, research my career and get the super bowl and win one with him, do everything we set out to do. And I feel like that was an amazing time and a lot of respect to him.
- [29:36]
B
Did you ever smoke weed with Tom Brady?
- [29:38]
A
Nah, I think Tom smoked that weed.
- [29:40]
B
Did you ever smoke in front of him?
- [29:42]
A
I feel like he smelled it, but I don't never smoke in front of him. You know, I got respect for Tom Brady. You know, if Tom Brady coming through, he coming through the win the super bowl and to see if I'm focused. So usually I kept the weed low key, but he definitely smelled it.
- [29:55]
B
So if you had a message for the world about Tom Brady, what would you say to him right now?
- [30:00]
A
What would I say to Tom Brady? Yeah, I'm open. Throw it.
- [30:06]
B
Yeah. So do you think we can convince Donald Trump to make cannabis for federally legal?
- [30:16]
A
I feel like we should. I feel like he understands it, and that could be something that we could mention to him when we go up this Saturday soon.
- [30:23]
B
I think it's really important because a lot of presidents have promised that they're going to federally legalize marijuana. And especially for my business, like we were talking about earlier, is like, I'm banking on federal legalization. Like, my life is dependent on, you know, basically being able to do interstate commerce, you know, international commerce. So if we could get a president to endorse federally legalizing marijuana, which is why I wanted to do this podcast, right? This is. This is what it's all about for me is like having a connection to my friends, going right to the President of the United States, former President of the United States, possibly new President of the United States, new president. To be able to just have these conversations and explain everything that we're talking about ab. Like, about the helped your mental health. You don't want to take pills you don't want to use, you know, any other alternative for pain or your injuries of how many years we said playing football?
- [31:24]
A
27, 27. 6 to 32.
- [31:26]
B
What kind of injuries you got? What kind of pain?
- [31:29]
A
I mean, my balls hurt from just running, bouncing on my legs. I mean, for the most part, I've been blessed. I've been actually pretty blessed as a football player. Like, thank God I never broke a bone. You know what I'm saying? I never really, really tore something really bad. You know what I'm saying? I had a few bumps and bruises. That's a part of playing football, but none of that was major, which I thank God for, you know, you know, health as well. But, you know, football is. Until violence, you know, you get hit. I fight the medical marijuana, you know, the traditional helped me get through it, because, you know what I'm saying, you prepare to be abused, abuse somebody. As a part of football, you could prepare to abuse somebody. And I'm prepared to be abused because I'm a run the ball a lot. I'm gonna get tackled. So it's like, to me, you kind of have an idea how to take care of yourself and how to. I feel like marijuana is definitely the key to your mental health, just making you feel good as you committed to these things to be the best.
- [32:33]
B
Love that. Love that I can actually be able to advocate for my industry and, you know, do everything we can, because, you know, how cool would that be if, you know, you're in Florida and Florida decides to pass a ballot that allows, you know, Florida and California to do interstate commerce, and then, you know, you got Orange Dar Gelato, Florida.
- [32:55]
A
That'd be huge.
- [32:56]
B
There we go. And then, you know, eventually, you know, in Pittsburgh, what if we had, you know what I mean?
- [33:02]
A
Hall of Fame pack.
- [33:03]
B
Hall of Fame pack. So, yeah, I think it's really cool having someone like you and, you know, it's so important to just put eyes on our industry and not, you know, that means the world, because not so many NFL players come out, like, smoking weed. I know you smoke weed with a lot of NFL players. We were given. I remember we gave Lamar Jackson. Yeah, yeah.
- [33:24]
A
Traditional Le'Veon Bell. Traditional.
- [33:26]
B
That's right. Le'Veon Bell. He's super cool, too. That was. That's cool. He. That's your brother right there. Yeah, yeah. No, it's cool. What other NFL players have you smoked weed with that you're cool with.
- [33:41]
A
Love? I want a retinal guy's album. I really just smoke by myself. You Know me, myself, and now that's like three.
- [33:59]
B
So let's get into your rap career. AB Yes. I think that's really important because, you know, we did a lot of. A lot of.
- [34:05]
A
Yeah, put that on.
- [34:06]
B
We put that on right now.
- [34:07]
A
The other spot.
- [34:08]
B
Yeah. So, A.B. so you went from football and now you got a rap career. I think, you know, it's really important to talk about your rap career because you have so many features that I think, you know, I don't know if I've ever met somebody in such a short period of time in the rap industry and the music industry that's had so many features in such a short time. Who you got features with?
- [34:37]
A
I don't got features with, man. A lot of cold artists, man. These guys are like my brother. So it's always good to get the love from them on the track and be welcome into the industry. I got features from L. Wayne, Keisha Cole. I got like Favio, Foreign, Lil tj, Vari Jacques, Young Thug.
- [35:00]
B
I was gonna say.
- [35:01]
A
Yeah.
- [35:01]
B
Oh, we at that. Well, you were up there with. You were up there with Young Thug, remember, in Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. That was cool, huh?
- [35:11]
A
Yeah, that was amazing.
- [35:12]
B
Yeah, you were in Atlanta for a while with the.
- [35:14]
A
Yeah, that was amazing.
- [35:15]
B
We're gonna free everyone from weed. We're gonna let everyone out of jail. Why are they not letting these people out? That's a really important question. You know, I think it's a really important question to the world is that, you know, what's up with how you going to lock people up still? Is 20, 24 for weed or is this real? Are. Are we not going to, you know, go back and look at, you know, all these people? I feel like it's. Maybe I'm not, you know, I'm not in politics, but I feel like it's a click of the button to let all these people out. Like, they served their time, they got caught with some weed. Let's let all these people go home. It's time to free up the jails of everybody. You know, the war on drugs has failed. This, this is. It's done. You know, you know, there's. The majority of states have, you know, passed for recreational cannabis. You know, it's going federally legal. We got to free all these people. What you say, A.B. you advocate to free all these people.
- [36:08]
A
Man, I'm gonna go talk to Trump Saturday, let the president know, man, we didn't let these guys out who get in court for stuff that actually helped them out. You know, it's ludicrous to be able to put somebody in a bad position for using something that actually supportive mentally so free all the guys, whoever went down for marijuana, who's in. Or who all in that position because I feel like this marijuana could actually be an asset to help people and not looked upon as a bad thing.
- [36:41]
B
I agree and I love that because that's such a brother thing to say, you know, to speak up. You know, not so many people of your caliber and your position as a massive superstar, especially as an athlete, have come forward and advocated, you know, for our industry. It's so important to, you know, just advocate and have that voice to get to the higher ups to explain. This is not a. A drug. This is not a gateway drug. This is cannabis. Cannabis and alcohol. To me, alcohol is way worse for you than cannabis, you know, hands down. So I think that's amazing. I think, I think we should light that big ass joint right there. What you think?
- [37:22]
A
So I think they want to get some roll ups.
- [37:24]
B
You wanna. You got, you got a backwood for him.
- [37:28]
A
This the crazy tr.
- [37:30]
B
Yeah. So could you guys pull up the. I wanted to show, you know, the best about us. We always joking around. We all. How many times have we had moments where we laughing on the floor, huh? How many nights of traditional have we had? We just. We got crazy stories. I don't. We can't even share these stories.
- [37:52]
A
Too many.
- [37:53]
B
Too many stories. Yeah. So ab, what's good? How you feeling?
- [38:01]
A
Feeling like I got all my flowers.
- [38:03]
B
Feeling great.
- [38:04]
A
Traditional.
- [38:05]
B
I love it. So. So tell me. I. I know there's this play that went viral on the Internet. Is. There's a play of you were, you know, running and, and on the field and you jump kick somebody. I want to, I want to show you the play real quick. We got to.
- [38:21]
A
Yeah. Let me relive that moment. You know, I forgot all my plays.
- [38:24]
B
Yeah, let's play this one.
- [38:25]
A
I forgot everything. Damn. Did I really do that?
- [38:33]
B
Look, there you go.
- [38:33]
A
I used to be kicking in my st. Sleep when I be sleep sometimes start kicking this.
- [38:38]
B
So you ran?
- [38:40]
A
Oh, yeah. I was trying. I. I'm trying to jump over him.
- [38:43]
B
You're trying to jump over him?
- [38:44]
A
Yeah. Well, I was thinking about it too fast while I was running. It was like, I was like, this is going to be the biggest highlight. Jump over him. Then I jumped so fast, I'm like, damn, he's running to my feet.
- [38:55]
B
All right, here come the slow mo. Yeah.
- [38:57]
A
Then I stuck it to him. You ever had a foot in your. Your ass? That's A foot in your ass right there. You know how that's where your mama cook some good food. She put her foot in it. Put my foot in it.
- [39:19]
B
So, ab, let's go back to the rap, because I think it's really important. It's really important. You left. So you. When you left the NFL, yeah. You got right into this rap career right away.
- [39:29]
A
As soon as I walk off the field that night I was in the studio, game time was there, Fabio was there. It's like they took me in, right as an orphan. I ended up coming out here with Kanye at the Soho. I ended up getting a distribution deal from Roy Lamano with video. So I ended up getting a distribution contract to rap. You know what I'm saying? So. Meaning they put up the cash advance to all the ideas and everything I put out. So to me, walking up the field was tough because obviously people only want to know you for what you was good at or what you do. But life goes on. Some football players, they don't really take serious for music. You know, I'm just grateful I was able to walk off the field and create that deal and then make the song, put that shit on. We record it right here.
- [40:17]
B
So what's your message to all those football players that look up to you? There's so many young athletes that, you know looking up to you. What's your message to all those guys.
- [40:25]
A
Like, stay true to who you is, Be disciplined. Try to get the most out your care career while you can, save all the money while you can. I mean, you got at least sit on the cam, you know, make the best of your career, surround yourself with the right people. And yeah, man, just be your best, live out your dreams. You know, being a football player is like you a kid, you used to play football and wondering one day what it's like to be that person or be in that position, and then you get a chance to be in that position. So, you know, chase your dreams, live your dreams and be the best you can be. You know, football not gonna last long, so you ain't got unlimited help, so. So make the most of every moment and don't take it for granted.
- [41:12]
B
It's a great message. Abu. You actually a good message. Speaking of that, you have a good real estate portfolio. You. You made some really good investments.
- [41:21]
A
Yeah, you know, you know, rich, famous player.
- [41:26]
B
No, but that's. I think that's really important, you know, to that people got to make good investments with their money.
- [41:32]
A
After you play football, man, it's only a short window of Your life, you know, and to be able to live a good life, you got to take care of your money. You know, real estate is a good asset to protect your money, lock your money in. You know, the market always growing, you know, the prices of things only going up. So lucky for me, I was grateful to make a lot of money and purchase a lot of asset cash to be able to, you know, set myself up in a good position after football.
- [41:58]
B
Yeah, amazing. So you left the field. We got this, you know, rap career.
- [42:03]
A
Yes.
- [42:04]
B
And so how did you get connected with Kanye West? How did you guys meet?
- [42:08]
A
Yeah, when I ran out the field, he was looking to link with me. He was calling Justin. The boy was reaching out to me, like, yo, yeah, he wanted to link you. I think me walking off the field, where he motivated him. I end up coming to la. I linked him. And then she like, yo, don't leave, man. I need you here for the album, man. Right here at the Soho. You was there. So I ended up staying at the Soho, man. I end up turning me turning into the president of Thunder. Freaking getting a deal with a video viral.
- [42:39]
B
You spent like millions of dollars to go to the Super Bowl. How much you pay to take us all the Super Bowl?
- [42:44]
A
I feel like we probably, like, I played like 1.8 million.
- [42:48]
B
Yeah, that was crazy. And then we. That was movie that we had. That was crazy.
- [42:53]
A
Yeah. I feel like every year, you know what I'm saying, we gotta do something big and celebrate the right way. Last year when we bought the football team, so we're just thinking about other ways that we could do more great things. I feel like we getting into the. The content space with doing documentaries and ctsbn, you know, just covering people that. Talking to people and covering people that experience high trauma and seeing how they overcome it, how they get through it to continue to be great. Because, as you know, Jesus was the only perfect man that walked the road. And he was faced with all kind of traumas and adversities that he constantly had to deal with. Because I feel like it's just part of the earth of being a human. You know, gravity pulls down the news, talk down. I think it's the only thing up.
- [43:42]
C
Ab.
- [43:44]
B
Tell me about all these features that you got on this new album coming. I want to know also, you know, we were. I remember you just shouted out. We. We recorded with Dababy.
- [43:54]
A
Yeah, the baby. Yeah, we got a feature with the baby. We did. He came right here to traditional when you had the show, too.
- [43:59]
B
Yeah, we did the. In the. The Recording.
- [44:02]
A
He came and finished it right in traditional on the album day.
- [44:05]
B
Yeah, he actually shout out to the baby.
- [44:07]
A
That was big.
- [44:08]
B
Yeah, the baby was. Was. That was super cool because that was legendary. I've never. And. And the fact that he was letting us record everything.
- [44:17]
A
Baby, that's my man. Yeah.
- [44:19]
B
No, we have some cool raw footage of that. And he actually recorded the song. Yeah, yeah. In front of everybody. Just. Just right there. Did his beat, did his thing, got in the studio. I think that was an amazing moment. And then that was.
- [44:31]
A
Amazing moment for sure.
- [44:33]
B
Do you remember after we threw the party over here with Gunna?
- [44:36]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. Party.
- [44:38]
B
Yeah. We did the one land party, and we had. We had you. Yeah. You and Keisha Cole performed together?
- [44:45]
A
Yeah, I had sex with her that night. Right here.
- [44:47]
B
You did right here.
- [44:49]
A
You didn't see the video?
- [44:50]
B
No, I didn't see the video.
- [44:51]
A
I thought you guys got many cameras in here.
- [44:54]
B
I guess I must have missed that one.
- [44:56]
A
She was here, though.
- [44:57]
B
Yeah, she was.
- [44:58]
A
She hit the stage with us.
- [44:59]
B
Tell me about Keisha Cole. What happened with you and Kisha Cole?
- [45:03]
A
I just feel like you just. It's too much in the moment, you know, I was really in love with her, but this is happening too fast. You know what I'm saying? When you a rapper and you, like, in the midst of seeing so much people, dealing with so much people, not being home on the road so much, I felt I just was a little stressed out, so I couldn't really handle it the right way, but I handled.
- [45:29]
B
Yes, you did. You also did a song with her that you got a music video that never released. Can you tell us, I think, is it up?
- [45:35]
A
Are we releasing it down? I think it was up. I think she got mad at me and she blocked me on everywhere. The phone, the music. Yeah.
- [45:44]
B
Would you reconcile with Keisha Cole? You think you guys would be cool again?
- [45:48]
A
Yeah, I think we would be cool again.
- [45:50]
B
You got a message for her?
- [45:52]
A
Yeah. Call me.
- [45:55]
B
There we go. I like that. You know, ab, she's a legend, like, you feel me?
- [46:02]
A
I don't want to feel like I just dug her.
- [46:05]
B
No, she was over here. Love.
- [46:07]
A
Ask Josh. Josh. We was in love on the boat, Josh.
- [46:09]
B
They fell in love on that boat. Yeah. And. And guess what?
- [46:13]
A
I just ruined the moment. I don't really know how to handle a lot of girls, and I ain't good with girls. Me and my mama didn't really have a girl great relationship. So when a girl up in my book, I'm like, yo, I'm done. With her.
- [46:23]
B
I think these girls are.
- [46:25]
A
How do you handle girls? You just dub them or you just work with them?
- [46:27]
B
I think these girls don't know how to handle you. That's what I be thinking, you know, I think that's what it is.
- [46:33]
A
That's what it is.
- [46:34]
B
You know how many times we go to Craig's, we go have dinner, all these girls are trying to talk, and you're like, no, no. How many times? How many. How many dinners we have to have the security?
- [46:43]
A
I feel like it's too big. Girls in the world. I have. What. Why make one girl miserable when I can make 10 girls happy? That's my new model. Why make one girl miserable? I'm not gonna make five happy.
- [46:57]
B
You love to clap. No, Life is about I love you. One thing about you is we know that deep down inside you a real genuine human being. You like to have fun, you like to play. I think that's.
- [47:10]
A
Figure it out. Like, is life about being right, about.
- [47:12]
B
Being happy, about being happy?
- [47:14]
A
All right, so I think it's an equal balance, but five girls happy, right? I'm trying to see what life's about is about being right of being happy. I think being happy, right? It's like, I see one guy with one girl. Like, one girl stressing one guy.
- [47:33]
B
Speaking of being happy, you look happy as with that weed right there. Absolutely.
- [47:37]
A
This is how, you know, back in the days, I had cereal on my refrigerator, and these days I got big buzz on my refrigerator. Yo, this is special pack of gelato.
- [47:50]
B
You know what this is? Look how happy you are.
- [47:52]
A
And, yo, this like a football and a half.
- [47:56]
B
So, AB, tell me. Tell me who you smoke the orange jar with, bro. Give me some names.
- [48:01]
A
I don't really like to smoke with guys.
- [48:02]
B
I told you. I know, but you gotta. I know you.
- [48:06]
A
This is a potion. I don't really like the shadow orange, y' all either. I'm the type of guy, if I got the best weed, I can't smoke all my, like, traditional. Is it elite flower? I know it's not, because travel everywhere. So when I have it in Florida, I like. It's not a supply and demand. Yet when I burn this out, ask Jess, I send them, like, 100 texts for the new jars because it's like, it's impossible possible to smoke this good all over the world. That's why we need to go to President Trump. I'm gonna ask Trump, can we please legalize marijuana, Please? You know what I'm saying? Because marijuana has done amazing things in our Life. When you deal with trauma, I think marijuana is the best substitute for trauma, especially emotionally. When you got to deal with argument of people or people in the professional work setting, it's good to operate on the little bit of marijuana. I feel like it just set a move for you to be a little bit more at peace and relax.
- [49:02]
B
A.B. i think the cannabis community just fell in love with you with that comment.
- [49:05]
A
I feel like Mary, Mary J, you.
- [49:08]
B
Know, this is what we needed, marijuana.
- [49:10]
A
Mary Joanna, like this is the only girl that ain't cheat on me and you feel me? I could pass her around, come back.
- [49:18]
B
And I love it.
- [49:20]
A
Yo, Mary J ain't never left me, bro. This is how you get a bag of wedgie, you feel me? You gotta get that no air in there abit.
- [49:36]
B
You roll your own blunts, you do it yourself, you don't have nobody rolling for you. So tell me, so how often do you smoke? You smoke every day?
- [49:45]
A
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. When I used to play in the NFL I could, I didn't really smoke like this because I had to do a lot of running cardio and I didn't want to be smart, snorty and cold. But as soon as I finished my career, you know, I said I was going to buy a house on the lake, just smoke marijuana, relax, you know what I'm saying? Raising my kids, I feel like marijuana is the ultimate mental health. You agree?
- [50:10]
B
I think so, yes. I think that there's no better, no. And I think there's no better medicine in the world than cannabis. I think cannabis is the best medicine in the world. So like a B, have sex on the week A B. What are the plans? What you got going next? What's what, what? Where's a B in 10 years from now? What you got going? What's the plan? What's the five year plan? What's the ten year plan? You sticking with the rat? What's this?
- [50:38]
A
What's the plan in life is to serve God first. That's the real purpose, that's the plan. Serve God, live healthy, you know what I'm saying? But in reality I'm up for the hall of fame in 2027. That could be a blessing, you know, to be a once in a generational player, lifetime number one hall of Famer for the Steelers in 2027. We working on documentary short films, you know, I'm gonna have a documentary coming telling the story. You obviously. I got new music coming this side. I got the best Twitter account on X. My favorite X is my Xbox and my X account.
- [51:17]
B
Speaking of the Twitter.
- [51:18]
A
Yes.
- [51:19]
B
Favorite cracker of the day.
- [51:20]
A
Yes.
- [51:21]
B
Can you explain that to me?
- [51:22]
A
I love my crackers.
- [51:24]
B
I gotta explain that. What does that mean? I'm not understanding it.
- [51:27]
A
Yeah, well, I feel like, you know, the COD is cash on deck, crackers of the day. You know, I started like a legendary quote on Twitter where I just bring acknowledgement. We got the diddy of the day, the fag of the day, the chink of the day, the nigga of the day. We just making people days. We bringing segregation back. You can follow me on the ex app. You like your ex girlfriend?
- [51:51]
B
No.
- [51:52]
A
You don't like her alone?
- [51:54]
B
No, I don't like her.
- [51:55]
A
Only ex I like is my Xbox in the Twitter space.
- [52:02]
B
So, AB, what do you think about Diddy? Do you think he did it?
- [52:06]
A
I felt like, yo, listen.
- [52:08]
B
What? What? Have you met him? You ever met him?
- [52:10]
A
I never met Diddy, but I always seen Diddy as a billionaire black guy with a lot of energy. If they let him for 20 years, why on the 21st year he can't riches? I didn't see the dildos at his house. I didn't see the baby oils. I'm sure a lot of people do freaky ass shit. Why are we blaming him for being freaky? I don't know. I don't know what his deal is. I can't pass judgment on him. I know he was going with Karisha, the city girl. I don't know. What did he. Did he do it? Did he did it? I don't know. I couldn't tell you. All I know is Puff that has Sean John, he was the first black billionaire we saw besides Yay. So I don't know what's his deal? Maybe it's a takedown on black guys. I don't know. To be determined. Who knows what you think about it? He never with none of my peoples over. None of my my probably went to his party. But that's on their own timing.
- [53:13]
B
Feel me?
- [53:14]
A
Like I don't know how they.
- [53:15]
B
Did you ever go to any of his parties?
- [53:17]
A
I never been to a Diddy party. I'm really not big of a party. Like hanging out with guys at a house party. I really hang out with a small circle of people. So I never been a part of Diddy parties. But I always hear you have good parties. I never heard nothing bad until like some people was out there.
- [53:36]
B
So who's your circle now?
- [53:37]
A
Who would you say my circle is? A period small.
- [53:42]
B
I like that.
- [53:43]
A
Yeah. Some girls try to let me smash on their period.
- [53:50]
B
Can we start a comedy club? And we. We're gonna have you standing up.
- [53:54]
A
Comedy of the day.
- [53:55]
B
That's right. Comedy of the day. I kind of. I like that. Comedy of the day.
- [54:00]
A
Yeah.
- [54:01]
B
All right. So speaking in the hall of Fame. I know that's coming up. You know, what would your message be to the NFL? You. You gotta have a clear message to the NFL. I know you joke around and people have painted you in the wrong light. And I think it's really important to say your message to the NFL.
- [54:17]
A
I got nothing to say. There's no explaining they need to do. There's nothing to talk about. The NFL is a business. They gonna do what's right for the business and the means of necessary taking care of the business. Me and Ben Rothenberger are up together. You understand the emphasis of that? Ben Rothenberger, AB Steelers, let's do the right thing. You seen that Spike Lee movie? Do the right thing.
- [54:44]
B
Hall of fame, 2027.
- [54:46]
A
2027. We in the HOF. Pittsburgh Steelers. A.B. big Ben, the best football offensive tenement Stillers history. Can you pull up the stats? Josh, when you put that clip out there, just easy put the. Yeah. AB Big Ben stats. And the rest of the Steelers.
- [55:03]
B
Yeah.
- [55:04]
A
In the time of history, so.
- [55:08]
B
Yo, I know you're a family man. Yes, I know.
- [55:11]
A
At the end of the day, I got five families. Like I got a lot of families.
- [55:15]
B
I know you love all your kids.
- [55:17]
A
I love all my kids. They're the new legacy.
- [55:19]
B
You just had a beautiful baby.
- [55:23]
A
Ace Brown, another son. He the sixth man. The duo combined for 804 receptions, 10,764 yards, 77 tutties, nine years of work, 77 touchdowns.
- [55:37]
B
Are you gonna put your kids in football?
- [55:39]
A
My two sons love football. They already in it. They play flag. I don't let them play full gear yet. But I feel like my dad was a generational player. I'm a generational player. I got six sons to the best son who loves football the most. You're gonna see who's the Tiger?
- [55:57]
B
Yeah.
- [55:57]
A
If I'm Tony, who's the next Tiger?
- [55:59]
B
I like that. So Ace Brown.
- [56:04]
A
Ace Brown. That's the sixth man. I got six sons.
- [56:06]
B
You know. I love that name.
- [56:08]
A
Yeah, that's Ace. That's your nickname. Ace.
- [56:12]
B
I like that name. That was. That was amazing. You can called your kid Ace Brown. What a great name. So, A.B. what's the plan? What do you got going? We're gonna get the rap career.
- [56:25]
A
Yes, yes. We Dropping new music. I'm here today. We got video. I tell you, I still got a distribution deal. I had got another deal that kind of put on pause. But we back, I got some new music. It's been since. It's been like two years since we really came out with something, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like I got the perfect project now that's ready. I feel like we, that we got music just a part of the culture. We gotta have assets in the musical lane. I feel like my brothers in music, they welcome me with open arms and got some cool stuff coming. It's always good when you come make music when people don't believe and then you put out a. Put that on and the whole world feel it. So to me, I've been working on a lot of good music and I feel like now we out of time. Where we clear, we looking to sign more artists. We're looking at, I mean we got Le'Veon, we working on possibly signing Fory, we working on possibly signing this one kid from Texas, Pooda. We working on signing the New York legend and Roddy Rebel. So I'm looking to expand, get other people opportunities, grow the catalog, you know, I mean, I'm trying to, you know, give other people opportunities to live out their dreams and have a right infrastructure to be able to provide leaderships for other people. So for me, I feel like I'm definitely gonna put out some great music for video and I'm looking to get my next opportunity to keep growing, man. I'm like a six figure artist, you know, I mean I got a 300k deal. These guys already recoup on the money they gave me. So I feel like we understand the game and when somebody invests in you and they making their money back, it's more of a good business vibe and adventure where they keep, keep it going. So shout out the video. I'm looking to get my new project out, man. I got some exciting music and I'm excited to share it to the world and just, you know, see how they take it in the.
- [58:16]
B
The music career.
- [58:18]
A
Yes.
- [58:18]
B
Has been a little over two years now.
- [58:22]
A
Yes.
- [58:22]
B
And yes. Do you have any up and coming new artists that you're going to be working with?
- [58:28]
A
Yes, I got, you know, my usual artists I always work with. I got Fabio Foreign, two tracks. I got a little TJ Vori, I got Roddy Rebel, I got, I got Guap Dad 4000. I got a couple of different artists, man, some good genres. I feel like people gonna really Take heed to.
- [58:51]
B
I seen you with Trippy Red.
- [58:53]
A
Oh, yeah. I got a Trippy Red track as well. I don't know why they go out Trippy. I got a huge record with Trippy Red, man. Trippy Red, also a legend from Ohio, live out in Miami. Shout out to Trippy Red, man. He got a lot of big up and coming things. That's one of my. Also one of our close friends. Yeah, I didn't even think about that when I was so high. I got a big record with Trippy Red. Yeah, Big, big single as well with him.
- [59:16]
B
How did you connect with Trippy Redd?
- [59:18]
A
I mean, I met trippy reggae in LA. Maybe like 2020. Sean Kingston brought him over to the spot and we've been cool ever since. Finally had a chance to make a song. When we made a song, I think it was like last year. Last year we made a song and it been. I mean, my kids like this song. They really actually sing it. So I feel like, yeah, Trippie Redd is a legend. He's been doing music. Music over 10, 15 years. And, man, I got a big song with him that I can't wait to show to the world.
- [59:47]
B
It's amazing. You're gonna shout out Trump in one of the songs.
- [59:51]
A
I feel like we was talking about making the Trump song. I know Fabio Kodak Black had one that they did. They was telling me I could have made one. I think. I think we got a good song. I could. I could probably make one that's featured for Trump, but I feel like we got some. I feel like we got a good song. Song that kind of like. Yo, El Bell. Yo, get the camera on El. That's the Juice. So, you know, I think, like, yeah, yeah. I feel like lb, you might need to sub me out. Come here. You got to put ld. No, you know, he got to be. Yeah.
- [60:36]
B
You want me to slide in the middle?
- [60:37]
C
Yeah, probably.
- [60:51]
A
You know, Come right here, bro.
- [60:52]
B
We're going to put you on the side. Straight up, I think. Yeah.
- [61:03]
A
Get a bag of wedges.
- [61:05]
C
Got you, man.
- [61:09]
B
Damn. I got both my homies right here.
- [61:11]
A
Oh, man, it's the killer.
- [61:12]
B
Let's go. That's right.
- [61:14]
A
A whole lot of honey in the Good.
- [61:17]
B
Let's go. Yeah.
- [61:21]
C
Got the big medium.
- [61:22]
B
That's right. That's right.
- [61:24]
C
Get me right, too.
- [61:24]
B
That look good.
- [61:25]
A
All the way there.
- [61:26]
C
All the way there.
- [61:28]
B
All the way there. I love you. So.
- [61:40]
A
What'S up, baby?
- [61:41]
B
Are you guys going to be able to hear me like this? All right, cool. Right to the thinnest so, look, just, you know, in the middle of our podcast, look, Le'Veon Bell just pulled up right now. My guy, big time to the theaters.
- [61:53]
A
She rolling up.
- [61:54]
B
El.
- [61:54]
A
Roll them up.
- [61:55]
B
Yeah, we got you right here. I got it. Everybody, look what we got right here.
- [61:59]
C
These.
- [61:59]
B
I brought these special because we made them just for Justin Bieber. And, you know, I've been smoking them because they actually turned out so extra fire. These things are so expensive to make. They're Hashels. They're. They're the Blue Scotty. It's my friend McGunna. And, you know. Yeah, Live Rising.
- [62:18]
C
Yeah, that should be okay. So, yeah, w. I go up. What I missed, though. What I missed, man.
- [62:26]
B
Let's get. Let's get. Let's get. Let's get.
- [62:31]
A
My football and Vicodins and Percocet. We just. He said. He said marijuana is a better option.
- [62:39]
C
Oh, hell yeah.
- [62:41]
A
So.
- [62:42]
B
So, Le'Veon, I was just talking to AB about, you know, how the benefits of cannabis and how, you know, our industry needs so many people to put eyes on it so we can have federal legalization and, you know, we can move our industry forward. And having, you know, mainstream athletes like you guys, you know, promote, you know, know cannabis and be able to look at the medical side of it and preach all the benefits is so important so we can move forward as an industry with actual voices of, you know, this is real R and D right here. You are living, you know, examples of. Cannabis is a better alternative medicine than Vicodin, oxycontins, RA for pain, for everything. I mean, cannabis is. Is a great alternative. And. Oh, yeah. You know, I think that it's amazing that you guys are supporting and you guys support the brand and you guys been rocking with me and, you know, obviously Av is my brother. He connected me and Le'Veon, of course.
- [63:51]
A
And took a man as an author. Right?
- [63:53]
B
Yeah. Yeah, you guys were. You guys were, you know. Yeah, right. I know. Leon, you smoke these?
- [64:01]
C
No. Yeah.
- [64:02]
A
So how many. I gotta ask you some question. How many years you been selling weed?
- [64:07]
B
AB, I've been selling weed since I was 12 years old. I've always sold everybody weed. I was always the kid. Since I was growing up, I always buy ounces. I would. You know, it's actually funny. I was, you know, at a really young age. I always used to look older. I actually got to show you all these people pictures of me in Amsterdam. So how I started when I was 15 years old, I was like, you know, before. So I was young. I Was selling weed. I actually got kicked out of school for weed, you know, and what happened?
- [64:36]
A
What year was that?
- [64:38]
B
I want to say like 2000, you know, I was already, like, I was already out of school, so I didn't even make it to the first year of high school. And I was.
- [64:49]
A
Do you even learn how to grow this?
- [64:51]
B
So actually, how I Learned.
- [64:52]
C
You was 12, you already knew that's.
- [64:54]
B
What you wanted to do. I didn't want.
- [64:57]
A
When I.
- [64:57]
B
When I figured out I loved wheat when I was 12 years old, I used to buy weed off these, like, older growers and then I would. My brother didn't even. My older brother didn't know that I smoked weed. And one day I found his weed, and I was like, hey, we should. I found your weed. I know you smoke. Like, I got way better weed, you.
- [65:14]
C
Know, hey, hey, Australia.
- [65:16]
B
I'm like, this is trash. So ever since I would go to my brother's room at night and I'd knock on his door and we'd roll joints and we smoke weed every night. And, you know, I knew always, I was like, man, I don't want to work no job. I don't want to work for nobody. I just want to sell weed. So I actually, when I came back from Amsterdam, I was living on the couch of Chanel West Coast. You know who that is? That was my ex girlfriend. I was living on the couch selling weed out of their apartment.
- [65:41]
A
I knew you liked your ex.
- [65:42]
C
Yeah, yeah, that's the girl from Ridiculous.
- [65:45]
B
So. So I basically moved. I was living in Lankershim and Van Owen in the Valley. And then we moved into a house in West Hills. And you know, the guy that I was buying pounds off of for $7,000 a pound was like, hey, you know, like, I grow all these pounds. Like, you, your girlfriend, the mom. You guys should get a house. We could grow weed in the garage. I'm gonna give you the strains. Like, bro, say less. Like, I was in Amsterdam. Like, you. You know, I've got some seeds. I know what, like, I would love to see. You know, I'd love to do this. I got bread. I was already selling pounds, you know, so I. 16 years old, we moved into a dope ass crib in the. In the Valley and then started growing weed in the garage. And then when I was 18, I opened a legal license medical marijuana dispenser. And then I had, like, it was. It was cool. I had like, Freddie Prince Jr. That was coming in there to get weed.
- [66:38]
A
How was it serving the Suge Knight?
- [66:40]
B
Oh, that was crazy because he actually called me from jail, like, might be like six months. Yeah, he said he'd actually shoot in on the pod. I'll definitely, maybe reach out again. And. No, but I, I talked to him for a long time. I've had a couple phone calls with him, but he used to embrace me, invite me to all the studios he owned. You know, where the Wilshire building is. He owned a whole entire massive hundred thousand square foot office building on Wilshire and San Vicente. And that's. Yeah, he owned the whole building. He kicked all the tenants out. So he owned the building. He kicked all the tenants out.
- [67:19]
A
He.
- [67:20]
B
He would. That was like Death Row Records, like home base right there. And he would, you know, and invite me over every day. I go to the studio on Lake Anchorsham and watch all these guys record. He had Petey Pablo signed to him at the time. You know, I was there. It's giving weed to all these guys. And, you know, Johnny Gill from New Edition and, you know, I'm just selling weed my whole life. I really, you know, and then I started getting more educated. When I opened a legal shop, I was like, okay, this is what I want to do with my life. I want to open a bunch of grows, I want to have a bunch of retail stores and I want to be vertically integrated. I want no middleman, I want to do it myself. And then, you know, know, I was really just selling weed through the shop with no brand. And then eventually one day I thought I was like, you know, I need.
- [68:00]
A
To make a brand.
- [68:01]
B
You know, I gotta stop. You know, every. I'm, I'm selling pounds to everybody. They're putting it in a jar, they're calling it something else, and I should just do it myself. I'm growing all of it. So, yeah, I started traditional and, you know, I got the, the, actually the, the former Los Angeles City attorney, which is Alex. He saw everything I had going on. You know, he wrote all the cannabis laws In California, in LA, and, you know, he issued over 500 licenses himself. And, you know, he saw all the cannabis industry from the inside of, you know, the local government. And he saw, like, who was real and who was not real and who had the most licenses and who was actually going to be able to stay alive and be sustainable because the taxes are so, so high in cannabis. So, yeah, shout out to Alex for, you know. Yeah, you know, helping me, you know, take everything that I already had in all my foundation, take it to another level of, you know, being able to keep, like, the traditional Name alive with like, you know, the culture. Because, like, I came from, you know, I came from, you know, the beginning. Beginning of this. So, you know. Yeah, just now I'm able to the, you know, have the. The corporate side of it and, you know, keep the culture alive with it, you know, and, you know, do it like, you know, all my relationships are organic. I don't give you no bread driving. It's all love. Because we have a really good relationship. And I would do it with the same right as always. Family, you already know. Always. Because we. We family. That's how it works. So. Yeah, no, I mean, I love. I love that you guys, you know, support weed. So, Le'Veon, were you smoking weed in the NFL?
- [69:40]
C
Hell yeah.
- [69:41]
A
That smoke before the game.
- [69:43]
B
For real.
- [69:44]
A
I'll be like, yo, boy, for 200 yards.
- [69:52]
C
Yeah, I smoke like. I smoke a little before games.
- [69:55]
A
Smoke and went for like 200.
- [69:57]
B
Yeah. Before the presence.
- [69:58]
C
Yeah, I did.
- [70:00]
B
Where were you that you got pulled over?
- [70:01]
C
I got pulled over in Pittsburgh. But it was like before Pres. Game. We ain't playing Pittsburgh that day though. It was. That was a long ass.
- [70:08]
A
That was a real game. That was the Titans.
- [70:12]
C
N. N. That ain't when I got pulled over.
- [70:14]
A
That.
- [70:14]
C
When I got pulled over. I got pulled over before Philly. Before the Philly game. And before Philly, we played the Eagles. That was you and remember Coach T. He made me miss the flight and everything. Had to get my own flight.
- [70:23]
A
No, you and what's the guy name? Damn.
- [70:26]
C
The Garrett.
- [70:26]
A
The Garrett. That wasn't. That was the preseason.
- [70:28]
C
N. Yeah, that's pre game. That was prison game.
- [70:30]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [70:32]
C
But the Garrett, the game you talking about, that's the game he like, he slid.
- [70:36]
A
That's the game he want to play no more. Right. He went to the pitchers. That was during the season.
- [70:39]
C
Y. Yeah, yeah, that one was. That part was.
- [70:42]
A
That was during the season.
- [70:43]
B
Wait, so Leon, did you guys win that game before you smoke?
- [70:47]
C
I mean, 200.
- [70:48]
A
We beat the.
- [70:49]
C
For every game.
- [70:51]
B
Every game?
- [70:52]
C
Yeah. Like, if I could, I. I smoke for every game.
- [70:56]
A
Yeah.
- [70:57]
B
That's crazy.
- [70:58]
A
I don't know how he did it.
- [70:59]
C
Yeah, I'd get fried. The one o' clock games be the hardest games before I can smoke. But I'll definitely still smoke them. Eight o' clock games, like night games. I'm for sure I'm smoking like, probably three, four. Before the. Before the game.
- [71:12]
B
Who's the. Who's the most famous. Who's the most famous person you smoke with in the NFL?
- [71:17]
C
Probably smoking that's not even close.
- [71:23]
B
We know you guys.
- [71:26]
C
I wouldn't be smoking with three. Yeah.
- [71:31]
A
Himself.
- [71:38]
C
But now. Yeah, I really. I'm trying to think most famous. I probably had other teammates I smoke with. I mean, I smoke. I smoked all the linemen. Like all the linemen. All my team that I probably smoking with. I'm saying I smoke all my team. I smoked the Rosie and all the running backs.
- [71:59]
A
Smoking his mental health for them boys. Yeah.
- [72:01]
C
Real talk. Everybody. Everybody in the league. Probably everybody in the league getting off. Just about everybody smoking.
- [72:06]
A
Especially they hitting every time.
- [72:08]
B
You think you're going back to the NFL ever, Le'Veon, man, I don't.
- [72:12]
C
I don't know, man. We gonna see. Right now I'm just focusing on boxing. I ain't worried about the league right now. None of this out boxing. But we'll see though.
- [72:20]
B
Who you fighting next?
- [72:23]
C
I can't. I don't think I can announce it yet.
- [72:25]
A
When.
- [72:25]
C
When it's going.
- [72:26]
A
When it's gonna drop?
- [72:27]
B
It's gonna drop in a minute. Don't worry.
- [72:28]
C
Oh yeah, y' all can't announce it yet?
- [72:30]
B
Oh, you can announce it. This is not gonna drop for a while.
- [72:32]
C
Yeah, I can't.
- [72:33]
B
Is it Jake Paul?
- [72:35]
C
No, not. Not yet.
- [72:37]
A
How much you invest for him to fight Jake Paul?
- [72:39]
B
Yeah, you're going to fight Jake.
- [72:41]
C
Let's go. That's why we behind. Hell yeah. J. Paul can't with me.
- [72:45]
A
We could put up a million dollars, right? Me, you could go find and find it.
- [72:48]
B
You think you're going to beat Jake Paul?
- [72:50]
C
They don't think it.
- [72:51]
B
I don't know that. He's good.
- [72:53]
C
He's solid.
- [72:56]
A
Versus him versus Jake Paul.
- [72:58]
B
And you, you going to bet on him?
- [73:00]
A
Yeah, me and you go 500. 500K. We gonna promote.
- [73:03]
C
AB know like, bro. He know I work, bro. I ain't about to play like, hey, that Jake Paul not gonna with me.
- [73:09]
B
I don't know.
- [73:10]
A
Everybody said that about Jake Paul, Jake Paul.
- [73:14]
B
Let me say this right.
- [73:16]
C
Do you see. Do you see who he fights? Do you see who he fights? He never fought nobody his age.
- [73:22]
B
He has.
- [73:23]
C
Who he fought his age.
- [73:24]
B
Go ahead, think about it.
- [73:25]
C
And he lost, right? And he lost.
- [73:27]
B
Honestly, that fight was. To me, that fight was. Was. It was a very close fight.
- [73:31]
C
But did he lose? So the only person he fought his age, he lost.
- [73:35]
B
Everybody else know with boxing, when it goes to the decision you like.
- [73:40]
A
You like Jake over Le'Veon?
- [73:42]
C
What you trying to say?
- [73:43]
B
I don't know. I don't know what you think I don't? If I were to bet the money.
- [73:46]
A
You were betting on it?
- [73:47]
B
If I was betting on it, yes. I gotta bet on him because he's my boy.
- [73:51]
A
Not for real though. You're taking with your money right now.
- [73:54]
B
Who am I taking? I think Jake Paul got it.
- [73:57]
C
That's crazy. Crazy.
- [73:58]
B
I do.
- [73:58]
C
But yeah, you know what's crazy? I, I, you know why you only.
- [74:02]
A
Gotta fight Jake Paul like that?
- [74:04]
B
I'm gonna tell you why. Because all Jake Paul has been doing all day, every day for the last, I want to say probably like eight years. Nothing else, not.
- [74:16]
C
Has it been eight years?
- [74:17]
B
It hasn't been eight years.
- [74:19]
C
Maybe like six years.
- [74:21]
B
All he's doing is training with some of the most, you know, advanced boxing trainers in the world. I think that Jake Paul is a, I think he's, I think he's like the most underrated kid. Everybody always talks, but he always bet the five. But he always wins.
- [74:39]
C
He got my, listen, he got respect. He got the respect. But at the end of the day, bro, what you think I'll be doing? You think I'd just be sitting out, not training?
- [74:46]
B
No, I think you'd be training for sure.
- [74:48]
C
And keep in mind, bro, I'm an athlete. But he not, he been on YouTube his whole life. Yeah, he been on YouTube his whole life. I've been around the best athletes growing up my entire life.
- [74:58]
A
I think Jake Paul is steroids.
- [75:01]
C
Even with the steroids don't even matter. I think matter because at the end of the day, bro, it's all upstairs.
- [75:06]
B
I think these are the conversations having that, that ready to throw on ab.
- [75:13]
C
Don't really know, bro.
- [75:16]
A
You gotta promote it like that.
- [75:18]
B
Look at him right now.
- [75:19]
A
We ready to put it up for you, bro. Just like, bro, I like my guy. You gotta mean, you gotta just fight Jake Paul. That's it. We just gotta put up the money. That's it.
- [75:27]
B
I'm ready to go.
- [75:28]
A
Yeah, well, you just fight the biggest guys. Leon Bell.
- [75:31]
B
Yeah. That's crazy.
- [75:32]
A
I think that, yeah, right after Mike Tyson you might get a November. You seen him at the, maybe like January, February for the super bowl or something like around that time. You could just take his fight for.
- [75:42]
C
A big fight straight up.
- [75:43]
A
Don't even fight until you fight him. But Jake, Jake ain't always fight the biggest guy. Knock him out.
- [75:48]
C
Jake ain't going, bro. Jake can fight me now.
- [75:50]
B
We going to just troll him, you know.
- [75:53]
C
Oh yeah.
- [75:54]
B
Let's get it. Let's do it.
- [75:55]
A
Let's do it. Definitely do It.
- [75:57]
B
Let's do it.
- [75:58]
A
Of course, we could definitely do.
- [75:59]
C
Let's do it.
- [75:59]
A
Let's do it. Leon shook his hand after the fight. The last fight I did, you know, people want to see that.
- [76:05]
C
Of course everybody want to see that. Everybody want to see that. That they want to see him fight. At least somebody close to his age.
- [76:10]
A
That's what I'm saying.
- [76:11]
C
Somebody had Juice fight somebody your age and athletic in the. At the same time. All you fought one guy that's your age and you lost.
- [76:18]
A
We got to put this show on.
- [76:19]
C
I ain't no pro boxer. I ain't no pro boxer. I ain't been doing it my whole lifetime. If you've been doing his whole life.
- [76:25]
A
Floyd, we going to promote this one.
- [76:26]
C
You lost to Tommy Fury because he been your age. Your age.
- [76:28]
B
But he held up against Tommy Fury.
- [76:30]
C
Okay.
- [76:30]
B
Right. He.
- [76:32]
C
He did his name. They was in the ring, they was dancing. They did a thing.
- [76:35]
A
But he didn't fight. Bell.
- [76:36]
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. There you go. I think they ain't fight me, bro. All right.
- [76:40]
A
Tommy Fury, did he get a real fight? Because I feel like it's like one of his probably closest. The for real fight.
- [76:45]
B
So should we announce now that Leon is.
- [76:48]
A
Yeah, we want to fight him to go ab.
- [76:51]
B
For real.
- [76:52]
A
I'm ready. I only want to see Leon fight him.
- [76:54]
C
Yeah, bro.
- [76:55]
A
Am I ready for the hot price. I know you ready, but I'm saying I just want you to take that fight. Any other fight is. I know. No, it's just Jake Paul. No fight dead ass. You know how big that's.
- [77:08]
C
Hey, but I feel you, though.
- [77:09]
A
You just got to go for the big one at this point, bro.
- [77:10]
C
Yeah, it this Jake.
- [77:13]
A
Yeah, right away.
- [77:14]
C
That's going be the biggest.
- [77:16]
A
Let it be the biggest.
- [77:17]
C
To either one of them. Logan or Jake. Either one of them.
- [77:20]
B
Would you smoke weed before the boxing fight, bro?
- [77:23]
C
Yes, I have to.
- [77:24]
A
Maybe on a different.
- [77:25]
B
You are a real og.
- [77:27]
A
Everybody can't do that before every fight.
- [77:30]
C
Before every single go fight. I am getting fried.
- [77:32]
B
Not. But he won't drink.
- [77:33]
A
No, boy. No, no, listen.
- [77:35]
B
You are a real one. She's a real one.
- [77:38]
A
You don't drink no water now. He is not smoking weed now. He's shadow boxing for three hours. He's not just a smoke weed. And just like, just chilling.
- [77:45]
C
Yeah, yeah.
- [77:46]
A
But he really, really focused, though. I seen him. I've seen him fight. Like, I've been right there the whole time. He like that.
- [77:52]
C
Show me.
- [77:52]
A
Focus serious, you know what I'm saying?
- [77:53]
C
That show me focus.
- [77:54]
A
That show me like I feel like the weed is like a real. You feel me mental focus for.
- [77:59]
C
That's what I'm saying. That help me lock in. That help me lock in.
- [78:03]
B
Are you allowed to smoke weed before a boxing fight?
- [78:05]
C
Yeah. Well, why not?
- [78:06]
B
They don't test you for weed.
- [78:08]
C
No. They t you for PDS and everybody on steroids. And that's crazy. That's what it mean. Weed don't do that to you. Besides.
- [78:17]
A
Get knocked. You send Leon a traditional pound, we going to get him high. He knocking them out. You ever see the go to sleep straight up.
- [78:28]
C
Hey, right. He's shaking in the ring, man.
- [78:30]
A
You ever see the.
- [78:35]
C
Facts though?
- [78:38]
B
I'm bringing a pound of traditional.
- [78:40]
A
Yeah. And we go to the fight locker room. Right in.
- [78:42]
B
No, no, no.
- [78:43]
A
Not in the locker room. It's only his private. Not in the locker room.
- [78:47]
B
He knows. The homie knows.
- [78:49]
A
Now he's smoking his privacy. You ain't gonna even know he had. He just. He do it private.
- [78:53]
B
Yeah.
- [78:55]
A
Somebody watching come up. Just cool it. Just.
- [78:57]
C
Yeah, it's all that once I'm fried. It's time. It's time. I lock in locked in. And once I was on in, it's over.
- [79:04]
A
As you gotta get behind this fight. We gotta rid the stadium, everything.
- [79:06]
B
We're already talking about it, so I feel like I'm already a part of it. Yeah, facts.
- [79:10]
A
So yeah, we gotta build this one up traditional sponsorship. So come on, put this fight on.
- [79:17]
B
Wait, so tell me. So. So you're the connect to Jake Paul. You already know him.
- [79:22]
A
Jake Paul know Le'Veon too. I feel like he want to fight him. It just got to be the right. We got to put the right money and get the right thing.
- [79:28]
C
Yep.
- [79:29]
B
So does he get through Tyson or.
- [79:31]
A
I feel like he may get through Tyson. Tyson really old Tyson.
- [79:34]
C
Oh, man, come on. It's like he. Jake smart with his fights. Don't be wrong. Tyson will be cool for about maybe the first round, maybe two. They only fight too many rounds too, but.
- [79:43]
A
Yeah.
- [79:45]
B
How many rounds is that fight?
- [79:46]
C
I think it's like eight rounds. Eight two minute rounds. Mike Tyson old though.
- [79:49]
B
So he don't have a chance. Tyson don't have a chance.
- [79:52]
C
I ain't gonna say he don't got a chance. He got a chance in the first two rounds.
- [79:55]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [79:56]
C
Jake gonna play. Jake gonna have to be smart.
- [79:57]
A
30 years old, man like Tyson, they got a shy help, but he got a little knock. The stupidest ever till he get tired.
- [80:08]
B
You don't Think he got it.
- [80:09]
A
He got it. 50 something years old, he smoke weed every day. Like he get fruit every day.
- [80:15]
B
He st.
- [80:15]
C
He stupid, bro.
- [80:17]
A
You just think about Mike Tyson like this, man.
- [80:20]
B
50 years old.
- [80:21]
A
He 50 plus years old, bro.
- [80:24]
C
Mike Tyson still be training, though.
- [80:25]
A
N. Knock the fuck out.
- [80:26]
C
He still be training, though.
- [80:27]
A
Mike Tyson going to go to sleep, nigga going to wake his ass up. We going to carry him out of state.
- [80:38]
C
I feel Everybody get slept.
- [80:42]
A
50 years old, so you living in the past. This over with. Hey, bro, you 50.
- [80:48]
C
That's the Jake Paul effect. But Jake Ball smart. See what I'm saying?
- [80:51]
A
J. Paul make it look good, right?
- [80:53]
C
Tyson though, it's like got chairs. They got a chance the first round maybe too. So he get tight. Soon as you get tired is over.
- [81:01]
A
Mike Tyson in 30 years, Mike Tyson haven't been punching 30 years.
- [81:14]
C
No, no, he old, bro. We gonna see out, bro. Yeah, he might get.
- [81:19]
A
He gonna get paid when he wake up, though.
- [81:21]
C
He might get slept. Yeah, he might.
- [81:22]
A
He's gonna have his money when he wake up.
- [81:24]
B
How would you get paid for a fight like that, Jake?
- [81:26]
C
Probably, or it might probably be like 25.
- [81:28]
A
25 mil. That's what I'm saying.
- [81:31]
B
And how much Jake gonna get?
- [81:33]
C
Jake gonna get crazy. They go get the pay per view, might make it more than 25. I'm just throwing out a number. Yeah, but I think that flat just all right. Not even count pay per view. Just all right, 25. Just. Let's do it.
- [81:44]
A
Because the online pay per view, people watching them, they're really on the weekend. But the fights is just crazy money. You can get crazy money. That's what I'm saying. You can put on the bout for this kid crazy. That's how Jake started already getting big. He had a little private investors start the private investing. Talk to them maybe, man, we stand behind them.
- [82:03]
C
Talk to him.
- [82:03]
A
We got the money.
- [82:04]
C
We buy the venue.
- [82:05]
A
We going to sell the tickets. And we could do the 247 the document so you can see the build up.
- [82:11]
C
The build up be crazy.
- [82:12]
B
You guys are going to film crazy documentary about the football. Of course.
- [82:19]
A
I feel like we can.
- [82:21]
B
Remember we had the guy from Netflix in my office.
- [82:23]
A
Yeah, we got. I got it that coming. We got the thoughts coming. Yeah, we got Sean Keeson. Doc we working on. Got a lot of some good dogs going.
- [82:31]
C
Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, that'd be hard.
- [82:34]
A
We need to just have a CTSPN bout sponsored by traditional. We're sponsoring Le'Veon Bell to fight Jake Paul. We sending Jake Paul a letter to his house, a letter to his girlfriend house.
- [82:47]
B
Y.
- [82:47]
A
A letter to his mom, house daddy, auto. Yeah. And we just pulling up on.
- [82:51]
C
Brothers.
- [82:52]
A
We going to pull up on. I'mma call him and say this. The next fight after Max Tyson, we.
- [82:55]
C
Could just sign the contract, decide it. You get it, right?
- [82:59]
B
That's a big fight, Leon.
- [83:01]
A
I know, right?
- [83:03]
C
They never been the lights. Like I better the lights. Think about. Really think about it. Really think about it. Really think about it, though. They never been under the lights. How I've been under the lights.
- [83:11]
A
Game time.
- [83:12]
C
I want you to understand that I.
- [83:13]
A
Like this type of ball.
- [83:14]
C
Yeah.
- [83:14]
A
They.
- [83:14]
C
They done fought.
- [83:15]
A
We can rent the stadium. We go rent the stadium out and then we get the ticket sales. Everything that be huge.
- [83:21]
B
So.
- [83:22]
A
So we got to go to Jake Paul fight in Dallas and pull up on him and let him know this what he's feeling.
- [83:26]
B
Yes.
- [83:27]
C
They ain't never been under the lights. How I been under the lights.
- [83:31]
A
Tell him this is next fight.
- [83:33]
B
So. So I love that you guys. Leon pulled up in the middle of it. That was cool. Back to the cannabis, right? Because I know you gotta want to fight. I know you want to fight.
- [83:43]
C
But we got the traditional before the fight.
- [83:44]
B
Yeah. That's crazy that you smoke and you, you, you know you're able to smoke weed before you play football. That's. That's.
- [83:50]
A
Yeah, but only he could do that. Only he do that. I can't do that.
- [83:53]
B
Yeah. You know anyone else that did that?
- [83:56]
A
Yeah, it was him and Ricky Williams. Maybe that.
- [83:59]
B
Yeah.
- [84:00]
C
Right, right. I guess a lot.
- [84:02]
A
He getting hit every time.
- [84:04]
C
Running back. No, I ain't know no other running backs. Who's doing it. I. I feel like Tay was doing it. Maris.
- [84:10]
A
Martavis is tweaked out. He ain't really play a lot of games. I might.
- [84:15]
C
He. He probably didn't play a lot game. I thought he done it before, though.
- [84:18]
A
Now for sure he play a. I feel like.
- [84:20]
C
Let me see who else. Yeah, I can't think of nobody else who probably did it before the game. I make like. Like AB was saying like this. They probably feel like they couldn't do it. I was comfortable. It was really original. I started doing. It was in college. So my. My. It was my college teammates. It was the White House hanging with the White House. And my guy BJ Keyshawn. They was guys who was smoking before the game. So that's how I started it. My first game. This is how I really started. Cause my first game, bro, I had like, 10 carries for, like 141 yards. And two. Two tubs.
- [84:48]
A
I'm like, damn, you had got high. So you like, yo, this shit worked.
- [84:51]
C
That's what it was. I'm like, oh, yep, that's what it was. I got fried. I feel like. I see. I feel like everything was, like, kind of slow motion.
- [84:57]
A
He was in his.
- [84:58]
C
Locked in.
- [84:59]
B
No, I feel you. I changed Jiu Jitsu, and I would smoke weed before I would train Jiu Jitsu.
- [85:03]
C
It's like a different zone.
- [85:04]
B
Yeah, it makes you, like, more calm, you know, that's really what it is.
- [85:07]
C
It's like, like, before the games, like, you know, everybody in your face, like, it'd be like, everybody. Your face getting hype and like, ah. Like, I never had that. It's just. I'm like, I'm chilling.
- [85:16]
B
Yeah.
- [85:17]
C
I just, like, feel like I'm just locked in. Like, I be thinking about what the hell I'm about to do.
- [85:21]
B
So, Le'Veon, it's a really important question for you. Oh, this one is huge. We have a really important election coming up. 20, 24. Oh, no. Right or wrong answer? Who you got? Kamala?
- [85:37]
A
Come on, man.
- [85:37]
B
Or Trump?
- [85:38]
C
We going Trump, man.
- [85:40]
B
Trump.
- [85:40]
A
Levy. I'm gonna be with us to meet the president on Saturday.
- [85:43]
C
I'm sliding.
- [85:44]
A
Be there.
- [85:44]
C
Are you sliding?
- [85:45]
A
You're gonna be at Pittsburgh.
- [85:46]
C
You need to start. Come on, bro.
- [85:47]
B
To talk to him about the cannabis.
- [85:49]
A
Yeah, you should fly out with his.
- [85:50]
C
Oh, he probably gonna be. He gonna be on the cannabis. He gonna be on it.
- [85:53]
B
You need to, like, what I was telling AB is it's so important to get to these guys and explain to them, like, I don't want to take Vicodin and, you know, oxycontin, and I just want to smoke cannabis. Cannabis needs not facts.
- [86:06]
C
Facts.
- [86:06]
B
Federally legal. We need to be able to create brands and, you know. You know, being able to, you know, do interstate commerce. And we need to be able to, you know, make cannabis more normalized.
- [86:17]
C
Facts.
- [86:17]
B
You know, because sometimes people frown upon.
- [86:20]
C
Cannabis, to be honest, I think. I mean, from 10 years ago, it came. Became so much more normalized. Of course, it's not to the level we want it to be, but, like, I'm just thinking about, like, just in the NFL, like, how about. Like, how about. Yeah, like, yes.
- [86:34]
A
Yeah.
- [86:35]
C
It's like they don't even test no more for it, right? Yeah, don't even test for it.
- [86:38]
B
How are you passing all your tests in the NFL?
- [86:41]
C
I mean, it was easy because I was working out so Much. So like three weeks. Just don't smoke for like three weeks. I'll be clean.
- [86:48]
B
No, because they would tell you ahead of time.
- [86:50]
C
Oh, yeah. Now you knew you was you. You know when you come into camp.
- [86:53]
B
They gonna test you so you know that you're getting tested.
- [86:55]
C
Yeah. You know you don't get tested.
- [86:56]
A
So you tested one time.
- [86:58]
C
Just one time.
- [86:58]
A
Sure.
- [86:59]
C
This one time.
- [86:59]
B
Okay. For the whole year. That's how you're able to get around it.
- [87:03]
C
They ain't gonna test you before the season and then before the season. You know what I'm saying? They have right before camp and then right before camp, like as you go up all that's wraps raps.
- [87:12]
B
I like that. So you got to smoke weed your whole career. And when did. When did you start smoking weed? Love me.
- [87:19]
C
I think college. College was. Yeah, college was my first time college. It was like, I guess what. How was I 18? I think I was 18.
- [87:27]
B
Yeah.
- [87:27]
C
My sophomore year.
- [87:29]
B
And was it good?
- [87:31]
C
I mean, I.
- [87:32]
B
For.
- [87:32]
C
At the time, I think it was. It wasn't like tradition. Hell no. It wasn't like this. Hell no. But at the time, like, shoot, for my first time, it was like, hell yeah. It was cool for me. Like, I was getting fried, like. And then I guess I really start getting into like the taste and all that and different brands and all that. Probably like. Probably like get like when I was 23, 24 years old. Like real like six fight five, six years later.
- [87:54]
B
Yeah.
- [87:55]
C
But like, I always, always been smoking. For real.
- [87:58]
B
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [87:59]
C
So I guess it's 18 and your.
- [88:03]
B
Go to smoke right now. It's your favorite strength.
- [88:07]
C
I like that. Or gelato, to be honest.
- [88:10]
A
That gelato movie.
- [88:11]
C
Yeah, I like that gelato, to be honest. I'll be telling you that though. That gelato. I mean, I. It's a lot of I with. Though with the I was gun and too. Yeah, the one land. I fought with the one land. But that one George, a lot about.
- [88:27]
B
My favorite one like that. Oh, well, what's really cool right now, Av and Le'Veon, I'd love to sit with you again another day. We had the best conversation as brother to brother here today. Yeah, I. I appreciate it so much. You know, you got a message for everybody that was looks up to you and, you know that's looked up to you. That's out there and that's inspiring to be, you know, as, you know, an athlete and to be. To be in your position.
- [88:55]
C
Oh, shit. And you can do whatever you want to do and be Whatever you want to be. Don't let nobody tell you you can't straight up the moment you don't believe in yourself, you already lost, you already defeated. Just believe in yourself. You know what I'm saying? Don't let no self nobody doubt you. Don't let it get to the self doubt. Just stay self motivated. You don't really need nobody to motivate you. It's all about how far you want to go, how far you want to take it.
- [89:18]
B
AB Last message to Ed. You got an iconic amount of people in the world, you know, that look up to you and you know, they seen you kind of horse around on social media and they seen seeing you, you know, play around. But you know, at the end of the day, I know your personality. I know.
- [89:41]
C
Right, right.
- [89:41]
B
And I know how genuine of a person you are. And a lot of this is, it's just fun for you. You know, you're just having fun. And like you said, you're happy. You know, you're, you're, you're not worried about, you know, you don't worry about anyone's opinion. You're your own person. So if you had a message to everyone out there that, you know, you have so many people that look up to you and, you know, inspire to accomplish the things that you have accomplished, what would that message be?
- [90:09]
A
Well, first, you know, if you have a plan, if you fail to plan and you plan to fail, have a relationship with God and just, you know, be true to who you want to be and be true to yourself. You know what I'm saying? Don't be distracted about other people's opinion. Like Le'Veon said, you know, just living your peace. It's better to be happy than to be right?
- [90:35]
B
Well, yeah, really the best part of this for anyone that has come on the show is we got a ten pound challenge. So I'm gonna. He looks like he's already collected his first few shots over there. We're doing the 10 pound CH challenge. We're going to go live. He doesn't want no practice shots, so we start live. Every shot he makes, he gets a pound. He's got 10 chances. He's got a chance to win 10 pounds. Let's see how many you got. A.B. you got it. You happy? We went viral. Let's do it.
- [91:44]
C
Johnny Bravo.
- [92:27]
A
In life, got to give yourself your flowers. So I came to traditional. I got flowers. You don't need Valentine's Day to get flowers. Your flowers right here. Traditional 9:40 loaded with the models.