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Interviewer 1
What have you seen change in the agency world from when you started to now? I feel like there's especially now with the nil stuff, and that's just college, the way that the game has changed. What's some of the biggest changes that you've seen in the industry?
Lis Donovan
Oh, my goodness, just everything. If Rip Van Winkle went to sleep in 1975 when I started and awoke today, he'd be in culture shock.
Interviewer 1
All right, welcome. We are here live from San Francisco and we are joined by a very, very special guest, Lis Donovan.
Lis Donovan
Welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm honored to be here.
Interviewer 1
Yeah. Well, we can start here with your book, the Comeback. You want to share a little bit about it and what's kind of the main premise of it?
Lis Donovan
The Comeback will be out in March. It's a story of how life sets us back. How it can be financial, it can be health, it can be marital, it can be relationships, it can be substance abuse. In my case, it was alcoholism. And I went through a crash. And so the question is not whether we can avoid that, it's how you deal with that when it happened and can you find hope and resilience? So it's stories designed to inspire people for how they can come back from life's travails.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, listen, I mean, that's obviously, it's a lot of people struggle with things like that. So what would you say in terms of your story? What would somebody, you want somebody to take the most from what's like kind of the most important thing to get started.
Lis Donovan
Then in darkness and despondency and depression, there's light at the end of the tunnel and you have the ability to come back. In my case, it was following a unique fellowship in a 12 step program, but for other people, different ways. But it's not to give up hope. It's to realize you can get your life back together even better than before. Yeah.
Interviewer 2
Awesome. Well, we're huge Dolphin fans and I know. I see Troy Eggman helped you with your book. He represented Troy. He recently helped with the GM and head Coaching search. Do you know anything about that and his involvement and how that went down?
Lis Donovan
Well, I know that he was involved,
Interviewer 1
and
Lis Donovan
I remember giving Steven Ross the Humanitarian award at our super bowl party when it was in Miami. And so Stephen Ross built a million different businesses by being smart, and I'm sure that they'll fix whatever Zay left.
Interviewer 1
Well, I kind of want to touch
Lis Donovan
on a little bit of your career
Interviewer 1
and specifically, like, what have you seen change in the agency world from when you started to now? I feel like there's. Especially now with, like, the Nil stuff that's just college, the way that the game has changed. Like, what's some of the biggest changes that you've seen in the industry?
Lis Donovan
Oh, my goodness, just everything. If Rip Van Winkle went to sleep in 1975, when I started and awoke being culture shock, it's. Remember, the draft was in January. There were 17 rounds. Right. Players were in perpetuity, hoped up to teams where they had an option clause at the end. The two franchises that came into the league in 1976, the year after I started, had a purchase price of 16 and a half million dollars. Million dollars. And so everything's changed. But fundamentally, when I started, a team could hang up the phone and say, we don't deal with agents. So that's changed. But NIL has changed everything. So now you have high school to college has become a bidding war. And then once someone gets to the college, they use the transfer portal and there's a second bidding war. So it's all economics. And gambling, I think, is an existential threat because you're going to have somebody shake points or give inside information. So those changes are not good. The growth of television, the growth of fantasy leagues, the growth of stadium with naming rights, all of that's exploded. So that pro football is not only the most popular sport, it's the most popular form of televised entertainment in the country. So that's a huge paradigm shift.
Interviewer 2
We talked a little before we went live about this being the first time you really could take in the super bowl week because you represent Patrick Mahomes, and normally he's playing in this game. Talk a little bit about his run. And it's been a historic run. I mean, the Chiefs have dominated football. They're essentially the Patriots of the early 2000s. Talk about his run, watching him, you know what he's meant to you. And also a little bit on the injury update.
Interviewer 1
How's he doing?
Interviewer 2
How's rehab coming?
Lis Donovan
He's fine. You know, great thing is, these are still Young people. Yeah, that helps to be able to play pro football in the first place, you have to have a greater recuperative power and the ability the body to sustain. Sustain more injury and come back from it. So I'm sure that. But the key, too, in rehab is not trying to be too aggressive. So you let the body heal. But that was a dominant run. It all starts with the Hunt family and the fact they're great owners and they have vision, they've got a great front office. I think they'll have the ability to rebuild relatively quickly.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, I. I was reading that, and I hear different stories about this. The fact that the movie Jerry Maguire, who it's based on and things that. Do you have. Did you have any involvement with that? And is it true that it's. It's a little based on you?
Lis Donovan
So Cameron Crowe, the writer, director, called me back in 1993, and he asked if he could follow me around to pick up stories, background atmosphere for a movie that would center on a sports agent. So he went everywhere with me. He went to the NFL Draft in 1993, where Bledsoe was the first pick. He went to the press conference we had. He went to pro scouting day at usc. He came to my super bowl parties. He spent time in my office. And then I was technical advisor. So I had to bet the script to make sure that the willing suspension of disbelief, that the dialogue's phony, that the look is phony, wouldn't jar anyone. Then he assigned me some of the actors, like Cuba Goodin Jr. Who I took down to the super bowl in Phoenix. And I made him pretend that he was my client. He was a wide receiver. So. And it's been 30 years now. And when I walked through the airport yesterday in San Francisco, someone ran up and said those four words, which I've never heard before, which start with show me the.
Interviewer 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny that you referenced that. And not to bring this up, but it's a funny thing in Dolphins land.
Lis Donovan
Yeah.
Interviewer 2
When Tua, a former client of yours, got paid. A lot of people make fun of it now, but, you know, he was out there with a mic in front of training camp fans. Show me the money. It's really ironic that, you know, that was a phrase from a movie that was about you. And then, you know, when Tua came into the league, he was represented by you. And then when he did get paid, he used that phrase. So that. That's pretty funny.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Lis Donovan
And then the super bowl was in Miami to his rookie year, and Stephen Ross got our award and. But we give you humanitarian awards. And he got the award and two of us right there. And this was three months before the draft. Wow.
Interviewer 1
Oh, wow.
Lis Donovan
Yeah. Wow, wow, wow.
Interviewer 1
Well, you guys got anything else?
Interviewer 2
Last thing I want to ask you about is you represented Ricky Williams.
Interviewer 1
Oh, yes.
Interviewer 2
How was that navigating, you know, leaving the league, coming back to the league. I don't know your involvement if the era you was with him, but that
Lis Donovan
must have been a fun one. So Ricky and I had agreed that we would be negotiating with the Dolphins. And I'm sitting on my couch on a Saturday night and up flashes on the screen on ESPN that Ricky has retired. I'm representing him. I knew nothing about it. And not only that, he goes to Australia and lives in a pup tent looking things. It was probably certainly the strangest experience I had over my career. And we kept trying to get him back. And so he comes into my office one day, and he's outside of football, and he's wearing a T shirt, he's barefoot. And he says, I want to come back and play, but I want to play under a different name. And I said, what's that name? He said, rio R I O don D O N. And he said, I want a different number. So I had a whole bunch of posters and stuff, footballs in my office room to sign. And he leaves that day. And we now have 15 footballs that say number 27. Rio dog.
Interviewer 1
Did I see one of those? Yeah, yeah.
Interviewer 2
That's like a limited edition.
Lis Donovan
Incredible. Incredible.
Interviewer 1
Crazy. That is awesome. Well, as you said, March, right? This comes out of March. March, the comeback. Lee, thank you for joining us.
Lis Donovan
Been my pleasure.
Interviewer 2
Appreciate you. Huge fan, man. Love it.
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Episode Title: 🌟 A Look into the World of Sports Agency with Leigh Steinberg 🌟
Release Date: April 16, 2026
Host: Stay Tranquilo Network
Guest: Leigh Steinberg (misnamed as “Lis Donovan” in transcript, but refers to legendary agent Leigh Steinberg)
Location: Live from San Francisco
This week on Tranquilo Sports Talk, the team welcomes legendary sports agent Leigh Steinberg for a candid, barbershop-style conversation about the evolving world of sports agency. From the explosive changes brought by NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) rules to stories behind iconic sports moments and cultural shifts in pro football, Steinberg shares personal insights, entertaining anecdotes, and hard-earned wisdom about resilience—both personal and professional.
“The Comeback will be out in March. It's a story of how life sets us back...In my case, it was alcoholism...It's stories designed to inspire people for how they can come back from life's travails.” (Leigh Steinberg, 01:15)
“In darkness and despondency and depression, there's light at the end of the tunnel and you have the ability to come back...It's not to give up hope. It's to realize you can get your life back together even better than before.” (Leigh Steinberg, 02:08)
“Stephen Ross built a million different businesses by being smart, and I’m sure that they’ll fix whatever Zay left.” (Leigh Steinberg, 02:54)
“If Rip Van Winkle went to sleep in 1975 when I started and awoke today, he’d be in culture shock...NIL has changed everything.” (Leigh Steinberg, 03:36, 04:23)
“The great thing is these are still young people...to play pro football in the first place, you have to have a greater recuperative power...” (Leigh Steinberg, 05:50)
“Cameron Crowe...asked if he could follow me around to pick up stories, background atmosphere for a movie that would center on a sports agent...I was technical advisor. So I had to vet the script... Then he assigned me some of the actors, like Cuba Gooding Jr.... I made him pretend that he was my client.” (Leigh Steinberg, 06:52-07:59)
“I’m sitting on my couch on a Saturday night and up flashes on the screen on ESPN that Ricky has retired. I’m representing him—I knew nothing about it.” (Leigh Steinberg, 09:22) “He says, I want to come back and play, but I want to play under a different name. And I said, what's that name? He said, Rio Don. And he said, I want a different number. ...We now have 15 footballs that say number 27. Rio Don.” (Leigh Steinberg, 09:45)
On Resilience:
“In darkness and despondency and depression, there’s light at the end of the tunnel and you have the ability to come back.” (02:08)
On Industry Change:
“If Rip Van Winkle went to sleep in 1975 when I started and awoke today, he’d be in culture shock.” (03:36)
On NIL and Economics:
“High school to college has become a bidding war. And then once someone gets to the college, they use the transfer portal and there’s a second bidding war.” (04:15)
On Gambling Threats:
“Gambling, I think, is an existential threat because you’re going to have somebody shake points or give inside information. So those changes are not good.” (04:30)
On “Jerry Maguire”:
“It’s been 30 years now. And when I walked through the airport yesterday...someone ran up and said those four words, which I’ve never heard before, which start with ‘show me the…’” (08:00)
On Ricky Williams’ Comeback:
“He says, I want to come back and play, but I want to play under a different name...Rio Don.” (09:45)
Conversational, insightful, barbershop-style with sharp Miami flair; Steinberg is candid, self-effacing, and honest, while the hosts bring curiosity and a touch of Miami fandom to the mix.