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NFL Free Agency Is INSANE Right Now… $5.8 Billion Spent, Maxx Crosby Situation & Big Moves
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NFL Free Agency is off to a wild start with over $5.8 billion spent across the league, and the guys break down the biggest moves so far.
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NFL free agency Hot start, right? A lot of moves being made. Obviously some of the staple news was. Was the Crosby news, right?
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Co-host 1
Yes.
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Host
Look like, looks like he's going to Baltimore, trying to make a Super bowl run over there. He's talking about how, you know, he was thankful for his time in Oak or in Vegas now. Right. And, and saying, hey, let's go make a run now in Baltimore. He obviously had been wanting to get out there for a while. Then we break the news that he ain't going to Baltimore and he's staying with the Raiders. Wingo, I'll kick it off to you first, like, what are your thoughts on that whole situation? Because it's pretty crazy that that went down the way it did.
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Co-host 2
Yeah. So first off, I'll start by saying this year is a record setting year. Right. We're up to $5.8 billion spent since Monday on free agency.
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Host
Jesus Christ.
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Co-host 2
And that's up a billion dollars more from last year. Obviously the cap space has gone up and you're seeing these big contracts and these big trades. Talking about the Max Crosby, you know, trade situation with the Ravens. You know, I'm a little bit confused by it because they knew he just had an injury, just had surgery, was just kind of getting out of the brace and moving around a little bit. So he has to pass a physical, you know, in order to sign that contract. I don't understand what they think they were going to do with them when he got there. If this was maybe an alter, you know, something else going on in the behind the scenes. For them to get Trey Hendrickson just because they knew what they were getting. Right. He got there, he's still recovering and he couldn't pass the physical, you know, when his clear date is, you know, when he's going to be fully healthy. So they shouldn't have expected him to fully pass a physical. So I'm, I'm a little bit just confused. Them backing out maybe. You know, when they do go to do these big trades, it throws off a lot of teams. So that's kind of where my mind's going immediately.
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Yeah.
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Co-host 2
You know, when you do a trade, it messes up other trades going to other teams or who's looking at who or managing cap space. So that could have been, you know, an ultra motive. But I, I really just see, you know, they obviously got Trey Hen Hendrickson, another big time player, to fill that position. Yeah, we have heard a little bit of. They were going after both Trey Hanson and Max Crosby. I just don't know. I feel like it's a bad look a little bit, but also it's like you knew what you were doing. So I don't really get their logic here.
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I will say Trey and Crosby.
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Co-host 1
Oh, my God, that would have been dead.
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Host
Would have been ridiculous. Like, I mean, whatever their odds were to win the super bowl would have skyrocketed if they would have landed both of them.
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Co-host 1
Yeah, I, I'm. I'm with you, Wingo. I do think it's a very bad look. Unless you are a Baltimore Ravens fan. Right. Like, if the Miami Dolphins did this, I would be like, like, all right, whatever. We kind of, you know, we kind of. We're getting away. We're getting a. Crosby is better than Trey Henderson, but Trey Henderson is. Is incredible.
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They got.
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Co-host 1
Giving up two picks and.
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Host
Yeah, exactly. They got him free. Free. Just free agency. Right, because he was a free agent.
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Co-host 1
So.
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Yeah, I mean, that's pretty crazy. You don't have to give up the two first round picks.
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Co-host 1
It's a great. Listen, objectively, it's kind of scumbaggy.
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Host
No, it is.
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Co-host 1
But they're making out like a band. They are. Like, that's. That's how it. And guess what? Like, you know what I mean? Like, like for me, right, if there's no rule against it, you know, you're kind of more taking advantage of the un. An unspoken rule. And you know, it kind of sucks if you're the other, you know, 31 teams, but like, yeah, it's Again, it is a bad look, but, like, dude, if I'm a Ravens fan, I'm. I'm pretty. I'm pretty kind of ecstatic. Like, you lose Crosby, that news breaks, you're like, oh, what the hell? And then, boom, you land the biggest defensive end free agent out there. So, like, another.
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Co-host 2
Another thing I was going to tell you, too now, where my mind's going to get a little bit is right? Let's say Crosby gets in the building. They know that he has to pass that physical, but they know there's going to be, you know, he's not fully going to pass it regardless just because he just got injury. They could have still been in the works and teetering and finding out, hey, we can get Trey Hendrickson here if we back out of this for a pick less. So let's just basically say the physical was failed, right, because he, he wasn't gonna pass a full physical. Like, he can't go out there and run and do all these things.
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Yeah.
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Co-host 2
So they can easily say on paper, hey, didn't pass the physical. Send him back. Let's bring in Trey Hendrickson for a pick less. And that's that. Right. Saves the team another pick. And now I'm thinking, hey, I think it was a smart decision.
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Co-host 1
Yeah.
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Host
Yeah. Damn.
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Co-host 1
I mean, listen, if that was my team, I'd be ecstatic. So I, I would. I can't lie. I, I would.
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Host
You know, is. Is there a chance that Crosby still gets moved at this point? Obviously now, because there's the reputation is like, is he healthy? Right. But to Wingo's point, everyone knew that he's not going to pass a physical at this point. Right. And, and his doctor and his agent both came out with the statements basically saying, I mean, yeah, he's not there yet, but he will be. Right. And, and you shouldn't evaluate him completely based off of how he is right now, but he's on the right track to recover. So is there a chance that another team tries to come in now and, you know, it's a contender and try to go after Crosby? Or is it like, you know what, he's going to have to run it in there with the Raiders and no one wants to touch him because they're worried about the injury?
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Co-host 1
I, I, I don't think anybody's really
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Co-host 2
worried about the injury. Yeah, I don't think they're worried about the injury just because they know the type of player he is. I do think that when you say someone's off the market, they're not really off the market, right. If they call and give a number, they're more than welcome to listen to that and be like intrigued by way. But, you know, I do see, you know, Max now staying over there with the Raiders just because nobody, everyone's already spent. They've been spending their money, right? They've been spending their money in free agency. They've been doing certain trades. So by doing that, right, they're getting to their cap already. There's few teams, right, you can, we can pull up the list. There's few teams that, you know, have the amount of money to go sign another big contract for a defensive end like Max Crosby. And that's where you're looking at things like the draft for this upcoming year. The edge class is stacked, right? You can go get a guy in round two, in round three and maybe early round four that's still a top caliber player. So you got to take that. You can get them for a lot cheaper. It's a, it's a lot of stuff to kind of take in a lot of stuff moving parts in these next, next few days, weeks and months. But I, I don't think anyone's really going to touch them. Maybe it calls, few calls here and there, but I don't think it's going to happen.
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Yeah, I mean the price is basically two first rounders for him, right. And then do the Raiders have a contract already in place with him or is there an extension?
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Co-host 1
He's so he tweeted that he's staying with the Raiders. Like he already put out. He's like I'm saying he is. He does. I think it's either his last year or maybe he's got two years left. I'm not sure of his action contract. I know he is still on the Raiders. I can see. Because I agree with you Wingo, that I don't think anyone's going to touch him now I can see someone potentially making a move closer to the deadline like mid season when he is back and hopefully, you know, he's kind of in full form. Like maybe that's when you go do it. I don't know. Or you know, somebody could use. Right. Like, hey, you know, you almost get a discount now that he's, you know, not passing physicals and you know, yeah, I don't think the Raiders would do it but, you know, I'm sure a couple people will probably make that call. I don't see I can. I expect him to be on the Raiders week one and then let's see what happens.
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Which I mean, honestly could be interesting. Right. Raiders new head coach.
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He did sign an extension through. He signed an extension through 20, 20, 20 29. He did it on March 5th. So that is a three year, 106 million dollar extension. You know, there could be trades with that here and there, but you know, I think, I don't think anyone's touching him and he's going to be comfortable staying in Vegas.
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Yeah. And look, I mean Mendoza, they're on the other side now of this new era of, of Raiders football. Right. Mendoza, 99. Chance is the quarterback there. Right. And, and, and they got the new head coach. Right. With Kubiak. So like I think there's upside, right. Where Crosby was kind of sitting there and like being like what are we doing here? So I think that helps the cause a little bit where there's, there's momentum in the right direction for him and he's gonna, Pete, he's gonna be a piece of that, you know, hopefully new era of Raiders football.
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Co-host 1
Yeah. And to be honest, like the Raiders actually made one of my favorite moves of signing the. The guy, the rate. Actually ironically the Raven Center. I forget his name. Wing. I don't know if you know it or. There you go, poochie. They just went to go get him. Right. And that's. And so, you know, they're kind of making the move to, you know, connecting a rookie quarterback with a. One of the best, probably top two, top three center in the league. I think that's a great move, like initial move already. So it seems like the Raiders are, are kind of on the right path. But again, it's like Crosby is like. I mean, Crosby's nasty. He is getting a little older. Raiders aren't really in win now, but you know, I can see the Raiders if they keep making these moves, you know, maybe even. Maybe it's a next year, two years thing.
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Yeah.
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Co-host 1
That they could be very, very competitive. Especially if how Mendoza is exactly right now. Yeah.
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Co-host 2
You know, obviously Love's playing win all the Super Bowls now just to sit back and it's like he's playing Madden, just picking out his players.
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Co-host 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Figuring out all the moving pieces. So I'm sure that he's having a blast.
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Hell yeah. It's sick. Any, any winners of free agency up to this point? There's been a lot of moves. One move in particular caught my attention was the Jalen Phillips. Yeah, he got, he got a bag with Carolina. Right. Carolina had money to spend and I think that was, you know, one of their big Needs. So they were like, you know, Jalen had a good enough year to showcase. Like, he's healthy and bounce back from injury, but he got a bag. Right. And other teams are, to Wingles point, spending a lot of money. Right. But is there any team. Any move that you think has been kind of a. A highlight move or big move for a team this year?
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I.
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In.
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Co-host 1
We kind of touched a little bit on it last week. I think the Rams right now, what they're doing, I mean, getting not only McDuffie, but, like, I think they even got another cornerback as well. And supposedly, and I read this right before we came on live, they're making a move for A.J. brown, which would be a very, very stacked receiving course. So, like, how.
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How would they do that? A.J.
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brown, Devonte, Adams and Puka.
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And Puka.
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Co-host 1
It'd be crazy. You put Devonte at the slot.
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No, I ain't even gonna watch the NFL.
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Co-host 2
Come on. Don't forget Cooper Cup.
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And Cooper. Well, no, Coop's in Seattle.
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Seattle. Come on, Wingo. Come on, Wingo. You're better than that.
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I think Cup. I know when you think about Cooper cup, you think Rams because he goes to Seattle and he's not the guy anymore. So I just swooped up and stole his.
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He really did. He came in there.
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But, yeah, dude, the Rams on a
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weird offseason tear, by the way.
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Co-host 1
Unreal. He's on an unreal tear. But the rans for me, like, again, were just as good as the Seahawks, right? Like, you. Those two teams like the Seahawks, Whoever won that, maybe. Yeah, right here. So, like, for a team that's that good to start to essentially be reloading and not even reloading, just adding. I think for me, they're the MVPs of the. Of the off season so far. And then I do. Or I'll let Wingle go first, because I. We. We definitely got to talk about Malik Willis.
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Hey, you know who my team is that's won the off season so far? The Miami Dolphins, baby. Let's go.
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Co-host 1
I love it. I love it.
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I knew somebody was gonna say, yeah, hopefully that ends up well over there. I'm not. I'm not holding my head too high for that one, but I got two. I got two teams for you. I got repping it today, too. I got two this side. I got two teams for you. I'm gonna say Carolina Panthers being one. Obviously. You know, Bryce Young ending this season very well. You can see that he can play to that caliber level of football. The Jalen Phillips. I. I Think that's huge for them to be on the edge. And then adding a guy from Jacksonville, Devin Lloyd, I think he did an amazing job being on that, you know, Jacksonville defense last year was very productive. Having both of them added to their defense, I think will give them that extra push, you know, give Bryce Young a little bit of time to, you know, get on the sidelines, makes corrections, calm himself down so they can continue to play at that high calib level football. And then my next one is actually the Buffalo Bills. I, I think, you know, adding DJ Moore with Josh Allen, I think should help him. You know, I talked about it before.
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That was a big move. Yeah.
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Co-host 2
James Cook being, you know, so versatile. It was him out of the backfield and him running the ball, right. Him on the edge and, and to be able to add another threat out there on the edge like DJ Moore, a solidified number one receiver helps Joss Allen a lot. And it's going to allow, you know, one of these slot receivers to step up, whether or not that's Shakir, right? Can Keon Coleman now learn from DJ Moore or, you know, be another guy that steps up his game in year three. So I think those are the two teams that definitely excite me for this upcoming year. I'm sure there will be more moves to make and then obviously, you know, I'll let you guys talk about Miami
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Co-host 1
Dolphins
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Co-host 2
and being strategical in the background here.
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What? Yeah. Before we get to the fence, one move that, that kind of caught my attention too, right? We've been talking about the running backs, right? You talk about Kenneth Walker going to the Chiefs, right? But another one was Travis Etienne going to the Saints, right? Yeah. The Jags made such a good run last year and Etienne was a huge part of that. I mean, him and Trevor Lawrence last year with that new offense that they were running was electric. I mean, Etienne two years ago looked like he was washed, like he was done. And they were like, what does Etienne really have then? He has a great year out of the backfield, catching and running the ball, right? And this was a team that was a legit contender, right? Especially the afc. Last year was weird. It felt like it was wide open and they just let him walk. Another, you know, good running back, in my opinion. And then you're in New Orleans now, right? Which it's a strange division, right? You got Atlanta that brings in now tua and that open QB competition that's going to be going on there. You got Carolina and all the moves that they made, that Wingo just brought Up, Right. And then you got. Who's. Who's the fourth team there?
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The Bucks.
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Bucks, Right. We just lost Mike Evans. So that, that division is always interesting to me because of the fact that it just is. You never know. Right. You can win nine games and you're probably going to be the, the winner in that division. How crazy would it be? Tua goes in, wins the starting job in the NFC south, and then goes and makes a playoff game. Just saying, cut it up in, in. In January next year. Oh, man.
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I mean, listen, the two. I mean, the Tuo to the Falcons one is, is just. It's just funny.
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Yeah.
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To me, it's like, you know, Penix and Tua. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how it's gonna. Listen, it's in.
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There's weapons there, man.
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Co-host 1
Drake, London, Bijon, just hand the ball off every play. Listen, as long as he's weapons. Right. As long as he's healthy, like, he'll do fine. Right now, is he gonna win a playoff game? I don't know. But yeah, listen, it was time for him to go. I. I hope, I wish him well. But Tua, it's.
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Oh, for sure. Was it time to go?
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely. We're gonna get into Malik now, but I'm just saying, Drake, London, Bijan, they got a little. They got a little squad out there,
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a lot of weapons.
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And like you said, the dome let two of them rip the ball out there.
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Co-host 1
Yeah.
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It'd be sick.
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Co-host 1
Yeah. 20 yards.
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Hey,
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I couldn't help myself. Now, let's.
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Let's talk Malik Willis real quick. I to Wingles point, like, I'm at the point where I'm not excited about anything anymore. You know, it's like, how can I get high about anything? Because I've gotten up high, especially like in that 20, 23 year, and now it's just like I'm neutral. Right. Do I like the moves that we made? Sure. My biggest question mark with the Malik Willis thing is like, you're gonna say the whole thing. He's only started six games. Like, let's put that aside for a second. Even if he is good, is this team even good enough to like, support him? Right. Like you paid a guy. I think it's going to come out to like 22 million a year. So it's not, it's not a bad contract. Any stretch of imagination. We have highest. Yeah. We have plenty of room to work with. Right. And we will set ourselves up for success. Yeah. Next year. Right. So for me, it's like it's great. But are we even in a position to like help Malik at this point? Right. We have pieces on the offensive line. What are we going to do with A Chan and that contract? Right. Like all these things that like, we have pieces to build around, but I just don't know if we have enough to really see if Malik could be good.
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Co-host 1
Yeah. For me it's like I'm with you in the sense of like I'm, you know, I walk into every season with my expectations high. I somehow have been hurt about my entire life for after every year. But I'm not gonna lie to you. I was down on it initially. I watched one hype video and I'm
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Host
all the way back in.
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Co-host 1
I saw him walking, I saw him walking into the facilities yesterday. I'm like, that's my QB1 baby. But listen, I'm with you. I, I listen. The, the Dolphins don't have a great track record in terms of setting you up for success. I think, you know, especially based on how the contract was two years fully guaranteed. I think it's a three year contract. I still expect us to draft a quarterback next year.
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Host
Oh yeah, right. I mean, Sullivan was pretty adamant about that.
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Co-host 1
Yeah. Unless this guy really like wins MVP this year, I don't see us not taking a quarterback next year.
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Right.
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But really next year is where we'll, I think we'll see, you know, what we have. I think it's a big move for us. Right. I didn't expect it, to be honest. I know everyone was saying, oh, Malik, tada. I'm like, I think we're gonna just kind of tank and go. Nope, we're picking him up.
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Yeah.
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Co-host 1
And, and so let's see. Listen, I think it's like, it's all upside. Right.
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But that's what Ross does. He doesn't allow tanks to happen. I know he has to. He has to sell tickets and he's gonna make the team as relevant as it needs to be.
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Co-host 1
Yeah.
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Host
Can go seven and nine again. That's what I don't want.
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Co-host 1
I know, I know. Yeah, that's, that's the biggest issue. But it's also like, I mean it's, it's right, it's a, it's a win. I guess he could kind of lose in the sense if we are seven to nine, that'd be a nightmare. But if, if this guy shows enough flashes or he is the guy. Right. We have him for a couple years at a pretty good contract.
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Yes. That. Yeah.
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Co-host 1
And you know, next year is really going to be the year where we can really add. Right. This year, obviously we've been taking a bunch of cap hits, you know, Tua Tyreek. Well, one actually Wingo, when you said about the Bills, they just got Bradley Chub yesterday, which he was another one that we, you know, we let go. So I'm not expecting much this year. I just want to see if he can, you know, make plays and make us competitive. Right. And who knows, you know, like, like I, I, I think these guys really,
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there's definitely no downside.
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Co-host 1
They really believe that this guy could be a really good quarterback in this league. So, yeah, you know, it's a new regime. I know I, I, I'm just a Scar Dolphins fan. So like I want to be negative, but then again, I can't help myself because I'm such a homer that, you know, a week later I'm all in. So, you know, let's see what this kid's got.
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Yeah, I think it's enough to be excited about.
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Co-host 2
Yeah, I'm excited, you know, I just, I'm not gonna, you know, shoot for the stars, but I would like to see us get aggressive with a big time receiver. One of these lengthy long guys, six, five and can run fast, you know, are we going to look at those guys in the draft? You know, I'm sure, you know, there's Colby Young, there's, yeah, we got two.
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Two Atwell.
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We got two.
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Host
Two. Yeah, yeah.
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Co-host 2
And like now it's mixing Tutu Atwell with Jalen Waddle. Right. How are we gonna, you know, play with boat? Like it's, it's a little bit of controversy. Yes. Great player. Right. Return guy, return specialist. But, you know, so is Waddle. So, so I, that's where my only question mark is there. But I would love to see us go out and get a younger, you know, big time receiver who can go up and get the ball or look for a veteran guy to come in, you know, guy that's similar to a guy like Mike Evans. Right. We don't know if we were in talks when that was going. A guy like Keenan Allen, A.J. brown, the A.J. brown, if we could afford them. But, you know, so one of these older guys that's a lengthier receiver I think will be super beneficial to pair with, you know, that two, two the Waddle. And with the HN in the backfield, we need something to spice it up a little bit on top of, you know, a big time tight end guy.
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Right.
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Co-host 2
Can we still have Darren Waller, you know, to have that red zone Playbook. Like, what is this certain things look like. So definitely piecing up, piecing all the. The parts together is definitely something I'm trying to envision.
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Host
Right.
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Co-host 2
But not gonna feel too confident about anything because I don't want to let myself.
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Co-host 1
Well, I expect us. Now, I. I wouldn't. Well, not. I wouldn't be shocked. I fully expect us to take a shot at a wide receiver in this draft. Yes. I don't think so at 11, but I expect maybe in round two or three. I can totally see us making a move for a, you know, you know, bigger receiver. And I'm obviously down for it. Let's give this guy some weapons now.
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Host
He's got a cannon and. And he's mobile. I don't know when's the last time we had a mobile quarterback.
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Co-host 1
10 Ill. Yeah. True.
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Host
He's probably the most mobile we've had.
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Co-host 1
Yeah. He's not like Lamar Jackson. That was rough. Yeah.
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But a couple quarters in the past few years with tua.
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Host
Yeah. Oh, man. New era.
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There is actually a signing I want to shout out.
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Co-host 1
Go for it.
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A guy that the Dolphins side, bringing him back home to Miami. Josh Uche.
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Host
Yeah.
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Christopher Columbus High School.
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Host
Yeah.
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Guest
I played against him. I played with him when I was playing ball. I never been putting my ass so hard on my life then from Josh Uche when he was playing at Columbus C Pride. It was practice. I needed to run scout. It was playoff time and I see him just lighting up like a fucking predator on the end and I'm like, this guy's not going to go easy as he. I had to kick him out. And like, I remember the contact. I just remember my ass on the floor getting chewed out. Like, what the fuck are you doing?
- [22:54]
Host
Do something with yourself.
- [22:55]
Guest
And I'm like, ooch, can you relax, dog? Like, relax? But I think he'd be good. A little spice up the edge room a little bit. Had a good year with the Patriots. So bring him back home and see what he can do.
- [23:06]
Co-host 1
Oh, yeah.
- [23:07]
Host
Yeah. I do like that. Signing for the fence, but yeah, great. Good off season. NFL is always relevant. It's just. It's just always out.
- [23:13]
Co-host 1
And this one was a crazy.
- [23:14]
Host
It was crazy, crazy, crazy. Offseason.
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