UNC's Nightmare Start Has Everyone Scrambling | March Madness is Already Delivering

Summary

Tranquilo Sports Talk: UNC’s Nightmare Start Has Everyone Scrambling | March Madness is Already Delivering

March 20, 2026 | Stay Tranquilo Network

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off the peak of college basketball season—March Madness—with a deep-dive, South Florida–flavored breakdown of the tournament’s turbulent opening, highlighted by UNC’s shocking first-round loss. The hosts bring that quintessential barbershop banter, sharp betting angles, and cultural insight, focusing on Miami’s sports scene while covering the mayhem unfolding nationwide. The squad dishes on college basketball rivalries, bracket-busting upsets, Miami stories, and where March Madness ranks among sports postseasons—all with their signature chill confidence.

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Key Topics & Breakdown

UNC’s Brutal First-Round Exit & Coaching Criticisms

[01:01 – 02:16]

• UNC’s surprising elimination:
  • Host David brings up the headline result—the Tar Heels losing in round one (“What happened with the Tar Heels yesterday?”).
  • Bobby breaks down what went wrong: loss of top talent, reliance on one star, coaching woes under Hubert Davis.
  • Bobby goes off on UNC’s lack of NIL money input, even taking a jab at Michael Jordan: “MJ, quit worrying about your NASCAR team. Come over here and pump some money into the nil. What are we doing here?” [01:42]
  • He points out Duke’s struggles too: Despite #1 recruiting classes, they “can’t win”—“They get the number one recruiting class, they s— the bed.” [02:11]
• Hot take on Hubert Davis:
  • “People always defend Hubert Davis because he came from Roy Williams' coaching tree...he’s not Roy Williams. It’s not the same.” – Bobby [01:30]

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Duke Dad Stories, Rivalry Vibes, and Miami Basketball Memories

[02:20 – 06:16]

• Duke family drama:
  • Bobby recounts receiving fiery texts from his Duke-fan dad during the show. His dad roasts Duke player Boozer: “Boozer sucks. He can barely reach the rim. Good luck in the NBA.” [02:59]
  • Even Bobby’s dad throws shade: “But they don't play defense in the NBA, so maybe he'll be okay.” [03:08]
  • The cast cracks up, and David calls for Bobby’s dad to join the pod.
• Personal rivalry anecdote:
  • Story about watching a legendary UNC-Duke finish together at a Miami sports event, revealing the depth of family and fan divides.
  • Bobby reveals his dad switched to Duke later in life after having his hearing restored at Duke University’s hospital—a story the whole crew loves.
    – “After that, he kind of had a soft spot for Duke, and he's been a Duke fan ever since.” [05:30]

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Day 1 Madness: Upsets, Bracket Busting, and Odds

[07:16 – 09:55]

• Bracket breakdown:
  • Recap of top bracket buster games (e.g., #12 over #5) and the wild nature of March Madness.
  • High Point and Ohio State shockers called out as “crazy.”
  • Betting angles: Texas and Texas A&M moving forward helps some brackets, while UNC’s loss ruins others—a “healthy split.” [08:15]
• Why March Madness upsets are special:
  • “There’s not as many postseason upsets as there are March Madness because it’s a one and done tournament.” – Pooch [08:16]
  • If a team gets hot, “it’s anyone.” The show celebrates the unpredictability and nonstop drama.

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Blind Picks, Miami Hopes & Underdog Scenarios

[09:04 – 14:07]

• Gut feeling picks:
  • David and Pooch admit they make March Madness picks based on pure vibes, not name recognition. – “It’s a blind field thing. Like, I can’t name one player...but something tells me Santa Clara is going to get it done.” – David [09:43]
• Miami teams in the mix:
  • Focus on today’s Miami Ohio vs. Tennessee and University of Miami’s matchups. Banter about rooting allegiances and how tournament runs create new fan loyalties.
  • Bracket Analyst: “Look, Miami’s a good team...But I'm a big believer that basketball is one of those sports, like, sometimes a better team doesn't win.” [11:40]
  • “The excuses are already coming out.” – Pooch [12:08]
• Lower-seed challenges:
  • “Sienna probably wins yesterday if they had anybody outside their starting five...these kids are playing 40 minutes a night.” – Bobby on why smaller schools tire out [14:07]

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Betting, Cinderella Runs & Bracket Talk

[13:03 – 16:51]

• Wild point spreads:
  • Florida’s 35.5-point spread over Prairie View makes for lively betting debates. – “Talk about a bracket buster.” – David on possible Prairie View upset [13:50]
• Cinderella teams:
  • Who will shock the world? “I think High Point could be a Cinderella. There’s not a second Cinderella yet…could it be the Prairie Dogs?” – Bracket Analyst [13:55]
• Bracket perfection odds:
  • Only 30,000 perfect brackets remain after Day 1 (out of millions). – “Who the hell are the eight sickles that actually picked this?” – David [15:27]
  • “I feel like, in terms of brackets, even the Sweet 16, that’s super impressive.” – Bracket Analyst [15:29]

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Ranking March Madness Among Postseason Sports

[18:00 – 21:36]

• Where does it stand?
  • Pooch: “In terms of quality, in terms of craziness…this has got to be up there with the top. Because…it’s a one and done.” [18:11]
  • NHL’s Stanley Cup Playoffs and NFL Playoffs also get love, especially if the hosts’ teams are in it: “If the Dolphins made the NFL playoffs, there’s like 100…” – Pooch [19:38]
  • NFL’s week-to-week structure makes it easier for fans to stay invested, but March Madness delivers unparalleled shock value:
    – “For shock value and entertainment…there’s just something mystical about March Madness…If you could bottle that, it would sell more than any other sport.” – Bobby [21:23]
• Brackets and Gamification:
  • David: “The bracket is essentially an element of [fantasy sports]…any sort of gamified version you could add to sports just enhances the experience.” [21:36]
  • The pain (and joy) of day-one bracket busts feels universal.

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The NBA, Local Heat Runs, and Upset Culture

[22:03 – 24:40]

• NBA postseason nostalgia:
  • NBA Finals have lost some “mystique”—less drama if your team isn’t involved. – “I remember when it was like Celtics versus Lakers, 2010…we don’t have that.” – Bobby [22:08]
  • Heat’s underdog runs recalled as exceptions, but generally, NBA playoffs are more predictable:
    – “With the NBA, you could almost kind of predict every year…two to four teams that are almost guaranteed.” – Pooch [23:22]
• Why March Madness is special:
  • Even favorites can go down; the randomness and volatility are rare in other sports: – “What makes certain postseasons more special…is that chance that really anybody could win.” – Pooch [24:13]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “MJ, quit worrying about your NASCAR team. Come over here and pump some money into the NIL. What are we doing here, dude?” – Bobby [01:42]
• “They get the number one recruiting class, they s— the bed.” – Bobby [02:11]
• “Boozer sucks. He can barely reach the rim. Good luck in the NBA.” – Bobby’s Dad (via text) [02:59]
• “After that [Duke’s hospital rebuilding his eardrums], he kind of had a soft spot for Duke, and he’s been a Duke fan ever since.” – Bobby [05:30]
• “There’s not as many postseason upsets as there are March Madness because it’s a one and done tournament…” – Pooch [08:16]
• “If you could bottle [the mystique of March Madness], it would sell more than any other sport.” – Bobby [21:36]
• “Who the hell are the eight sickles that actually picked this?” – David [15:27]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:01] – UNC’s shocking first-round loss and coaching hot takes
• [02:39] – Bobby’s family rivalry stories and dad’s Duke text rants
• [05:30] – Why Bobby’s dad roots for Duke (life-saving surgery story)
• [07:40] – Day 1’s biggest bracket busters and upsets
• [09:32] – The “vibes only” method for picking upsets
• [13:03] – Florida’s wild point spread and underdog hopes
• [14:07] – Cinderella team debates and the challenge for small schools
• [15:55] – Bracket perfection odds, the mass busting of picks
• [18:00] – Ranking March Madness vs. other sports postseasons
• [21:23] – Why March Madness is so mystical (shock value, entertainment)
• [22:08] – NBA playoffs: nostalgia and diminished unpredictability

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Final Thoughts

The pod’s crew delivers on their promise: raw, funny, and sharp takes with a South Florida flavor, celebrating the chaos and unique magic that is March Madness. Whether it’s UNC heartbreak, Miami dreams, or the eternal hope of a perfect bracket, they remind listeners why this time of year is unmatched in sports drama—and why “staying tranquilo” is only possible until tipoff.

Transcript

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[Host (David)]

It is officially March. It's been March for a little while, but March doesn't really start until March Madness begins. And we have officially started. I mean and. And not only did we start, we started with madness early on. Always. And one of the biggest madness yesterday. I'm sorry to do this to you, Bobby, but the Tar Heels go down

[Bobby]

in round and round one.

[Host (David)]

What happened? What happened with the Tardios yesterday?

[Bobby]

Yeah, I mean, what's supposed to happen when you lose? You know your top three player in the draft and that's the only star you got. Also Hubert Davis. Get the hell out of here. Get the hell out of here. Like people always defend Hubert Davis because he came from Roy Williams coaching tree. It's like he's not Roy Williams. It's not the same. Also, mj, quit worrying about your NASCAR team. Come over here and pump some money into the nil. What are we doing here, dude? We got the. We got the deepest pockets in all of sports and you're letting Duke run around and get the number one recruitment class every year. Now I will say this. Duke damn near lost to Sienna. Duke has the number one recruiting class every year and they can't win. People want to praise John Shire and Duke and all this nonsense. They don't do anything with it. They're no different than anybody else. They get the number one recruiting class, they the bed.

[Host (David)]

We're gonna have to clip this when Duke wins it all,

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

dude. Honestly, Duke I think would have not gonna happen. Duke would have Won by more yesterday if instead of two Columbus guys, they had a blind guy.

[Host (David)]

Oh, my God. Disaster. This guy's the guy going to be the number one overall pick. What are we talking about here?

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

No, but, dude, the Duke game there

[Bobby]

was actually funny enough.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

I'll go for it.

[Bobby]

Bobby, no. My dad's a crazy Duke fan. Like, real time Duke fan. Like, nuts. He just texted me. I swear to God, we're about to go live and I have no time for this. When my dad starts texting, get away, cuz he'll, like, send you 12 messages instead of one, like, paragraph. Just so you know, Boozer sucks. He can barely reach the rim. Good luck in the NBA.

[Host (David)]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Bobby.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Get Bobby's dad on. Get Bobby's dad on right now.

[Bobby]

He said. He said, but they don't play defense in the NBA, so maybe he'll be okay.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yo, he's cooking him.

[Host (David)]

That's crazy work. What would the Duke.

[Bobby]

Blue Duke fan.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, that's.

[Host (David)]

That's crazy.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

My favorite. My favorite thing was when we were in San Fran, I got a chance to watch the UNC Duke game with Bobby, and at this. At this point, I didn't even know Bobby's dad was a big Duke guy because I just. Bobby was a huge UNC guy, so I just kind of assumed. And this guy, this guy, the second they came in, starts blowing up his dad. Like, he's like, dude, you like? It was the funniest thing I've seen, bro. It was so funny. I'm like, that is a hilarious. Like, so your favorite team, just pure rival with your dad's favorite team is like an all timer. It's an all timer.

[Host (David)]

So, yeah, how. How are you a UNC chapel about that story? Go, go, go. Finish. Go, go.

[Bobby]

No, the best part about that story is David, like, failed to mention we're. We're at a big event. We're at the Latin Sports Awards. Latina. Sorry, Latina. Me and David's in the corner. You know, like, they're walking around hors d' oeuvres on platters and stuff. And me and Davis tugged off in the corner watching on my phone. The. The end of the UNC Duke game. UNC comes all the way back, never has to lead the entire game, hits a three pointer to win it all. And we're like, yeah, we can't do anything. We're like, holy. So all I could do to get my emotions out was whip out my phone, and David's watching me, and I Go to dad and I say you something crazy. But, like, that's how that works. That's. That. That's the Duke UNC rivalry. Like, and that's how me and my dad are. Like, we're best friends. So, like, that's how we talk to each other.

[Host (David)]

But how are you a Chapel Hill fan? And he's a Blue Dev fan?

[Bobby]

Well, I believe in Jesus. So that's. That's. That's the first. You know. No, my dad actually was a Carolina fan. He says when he was younger, he said he didn't like the way. I'm not going to get into all the details because some of it will get me canceled. But he didn't like the way Carolina played basketball and the culture, the culture they established. And I was like, okay, that's cool. Whatever. I mean, I don't know how you watch Jordan and then go, this is not for me. But anyways, he switches to Duke. He has a. He has a pretty big story behind it as far as, like, my dad was legally deaf. Deaf. And everybody told him that you need to learn sign language. He went to multiple hospitals. He finally goes to Duke University. The guy goes, no problem. The guy rebuilds his eardrums with chicken bone, and he now hears he's 60 years old. He can still hear. So after that, he kind of had a soft spot for Duke, and he's been a Duke fan ever since.

[Host (David)]

Okay, you should.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, you should have led with that one. That's the one.

[Host (David)]

I mean, that tells me you everything right there.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

I would be bleeding Blue Devil.

[Bobby]

Yeah, it's still fucked Duke over.

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[Bobby]

Dude, they could have. They could have botched the surgery. That could have learned sign language. I do not care. How about this one?

[Host (David)]

Oh, man, that's amazing.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

I love it. That is.

[Host (David)]

I was not expecting that to be the story. That's incredible. But it was a great slate of games yesterday, right? Obviously, we got another slate of games pretty much all day today. We'll see what the madness looks like. I don't know. Do we have a game already on right now?

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

I think they start. Yeah, right.

[Host (David)]

They start around noon.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Noon.

[Bracket Analyst]

So I also got a couple of the top bracket busters from yesterday. I got a little graphic here.

[Host (David)]

Let's see it. Yes.

[Bracket Analyst]

Top upsets. I mean, I don't know if you call number seven over number ten a true upset. I feel like that's pretty close. That, like, you know, I don't think you call it upset, but number 12.

[Host (David)]

It's an upset. Yeah.

[Bracket Analyst]

Over number five is the most glaring of yesterday.

[Host (David)]

That High Point game was crazy. The. The Ohio State game was also crazy.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

It was great. I. I had Texas and Texas A M advancing in my bracket, so I. That's, you know, that was great for me. I. I was pissed. I did have unc, and obviously I did have a second Wisconsin, so I split it. But, hey, it's a healthy split.

[Host (David)]

That's a healthy split.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

A healthy split. But, yeah, dude, that's the best part. I mean, obviously, March Madness, it lives in its own realm in the sense of, like, there's not as many postseason upsets as there are March Madness because it's a one and done tournament, right? So, like, you know, best of seven series is. It's hard for the better team to not win.

[Host (David)]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

In a one and done, you get caught off your game or somebody gets hot. It's anyone. That's what makes the tournament so special. And that's why, you know, everyone loves March Madness. Like, and I'm not even like, a huge college basketball guy, like, in the sense of, like, you know, during the season, I'm not really watching. Like, I'll pop on some FIU games here and there. Like, I'm not locked in. Like, I am for college football or whatever, but when March Madness rolls around, it's like work. You're going to the side. We're watching games from noon till midnight. All right?

[Host (David)]

It's. It's. It's three screens set up. It's the laptop here, the TV on over here, your iPad over Here and your phone over here, like, it's. You're disconnected from the planet Earth. Because the only thing that's going on is college basketball. It is epic. The game that's actually going to be on now, which is an interesting one, is Kentucky, Santa Clara. Santa Clara is 10, Kentucky seven. Kentucky's three and a half point favorites. I could see Santa Clara pulling that one off.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

A lot of people like Santa Clara. I. To be.

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[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

You know what's funny, though? Like, I. I think they can too, but I. I'm not. I'm not as connected to college basketball until March that, like, some of these. Like, I would have never told you. Like, I couldn't name a player on. On.

[Host (David)]

Oh, absolutely not. But like, it's a blind field thing. Like, I can't name one player. I haven't watched Santa Clara play all year, but I'm like, something tells me Santa Clara is going to get it done.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

The vibe of it, it's like, you know what I'm feeling?

[Host (David)]

This team, it's the weirdest thing with no. No connection to anything. It's just like this weird innate feeling within me that says, if this is the upset, this is gonna be it.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah. I love it. You know, it's one for. Today that.

[Host (David)]

That I saw was Miami Ohio plays at 425 today. Can they. Can they. They can. Against Tennessee. Tennessee's 12 and a half point favorites. Can they. Can they shake up and prove that they belong?

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

That's.

[Host (David)]

Yeah. Or be like, oh, they had no business being anything here.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, that's.

[Bracket Analyst]

Pooch. No, Miami Ohio is different.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

No, Miami. Yeah.

[Host (David)]

Oh, no.

[Bracket Analyst]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

But dude, Pooch, you.

[Bracket Analyst]

You.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

That's your boys, bro. You've been telling us for weeks, you've been telling us for weeks. We now have to talk about Miami Ohio for sure.

[Bracket Analyst]

Yeah, I knew. Higher on the bedroom. You went at the 10:00 clock slate.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Well, yeah, I mean, that's. I mean, I'll tell you what, Pooch, I mean, I don't want to put you on blast, but you did tell me right before we started recording. You actually are a bigger Miami Ohio fan. The University of Miami. Me, I don't know who you'd go for.

[Bracket Analyst]

You showed up almost. You showed up late. First of all, let's. Let's put. Let's put the. Let's put the meat on the table. Okay? You shut up. Late. All right? You just walked in, strolled in, and I'm like, don't even say how to be. Sit down. Get a position. I know you make Bad comments.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Well, listen, it's, it's, I, I did that because, you know, I, I, I was like, dude, I gotta, I'm worried about Pooch man, cuz, like, his allegiances have changed. It's crazy.

[Host (David)]

What's on the line if, um loses today, though?

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

I have, I have them losing in my bracket.

[Bracket Analyst]

I think it's ten versus seven. It's against Missouri.

[Host (David)]

I mean, Miami's one and a half point favorites.

[Bracket Analyst]

Look, Miami's a good team. They're obviously like, we were talking about it yesterday, Jay. Like, it's a very new roster. It's the first time that a lot of these guys are going to play together in a scene like this. A lot of freshmen, a lot of young kids, I think they have everything, you know, they can to win. But I'm a big believer that basketball is one of those sports. Like, sometimes a better team doesn't win. Like, yeah, have a kid shoot 13 threes and shoot and the team shoots 80.

[Host (David)]

Oh, he's already setting himself.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

The excuses are already coming out.

[Bracket Analyst]

This is a general basis, you know, we look at these upsets and stuff. How does Duke go into a game with Sienna? I'm like, bro, Sienna's probably playing their asses off. And Duke was off a little bit. Like basketball and like a 10 point lead in basketball is really nothing. You know, that's, that's five baskets, that's five possessions. And that can be in the span of a minute. So, I mean, this is one of those sports that's so hard to predict because you're really just depending on one team to be hot and one team, you know, one team to be not, or just one team to get a couple more extra possessions. Like, it's really tough to really call this and like, really give predictions because you never know.

[Host (David)]

Yeah, that's for sure.

[Bracket Analyst]

Like, no one thought that Bell was

[Host (David)]

gonna go for 83, you know, I will say this. I did Florida.

[Bobby]

Nobody, Nobody knew.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Wait, LeBron knew.

[Bobby]

Not even his mama. Not even his mama would have thought.

[Host (David)]

Florida is 35 and a half point favorites today against Prairie View. Any chance Prairie View covers. That's right. 35 and a half, bro.

[Bracket Analyst]

I feel like.

[Host (David)]

And the total points, the total points is 155. So they're, they're basically saying they're gonna win 120 to. What is that? To like 80? Basically, yeah.

[Bobby]

Like 115 to 150.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah.

[Host (David)]

35 and a half points.

[Bobby]

Yeah, 125.

[Host (David)]

Yeah, yeah, that's a beat down.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

I mean, listen, Florida. I mean, that's. Those are the defending. Chance Wingo's not here to defend them, but they're very good.

[Host (David)]

90 to 55, basically.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

But guess what? We're gonna take the Perry Dogs money line today. All right.

[Host (David)]

Oh, man. Talk about a bracket buster.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, that'd be the craziest one. That'd be the craziest.

[Bracket Analyst]

I feel like every. There's a Cinderella that makes a run super deep, and then a Cinderella that gets to, like, the sweet 16 and loses. I think high point could be a Cinderella. There's not a second Cinderella yet. So who's that second one gonna be? Could it be the Prairie Dogs?

[Bobby]

That's a great. That's a great segue because I was just sitting here about to tell y' all how, like, the biggest difference I see in these teams, like, Sienna probably wins yesterday if they had anybody outside their starting five. Like, the coach was not coming off the starting five, and that's what the problem is. These kids are playing 40 minutes a night. You better not go to overtime. By the time they get to the sweet 16, these kids are exhausted.

[Host (David)]

Yeah.

[Bobby]

So, like, that's the biggest difference is these small schools, they have to play their starting five, and, like, dude, you got teams like Duke that have, like, five stars sitting on the bench, so it's, like, it's tough. You really got to put it together for 40 minutes.

[Host (David)]

Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. I wonder if by. By end of day today, if there's any perfect brackets left.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Dude, I'd be shocked if there's any perfect brackets right now.

[Host (David)]

I mean, that's how it always is. But there's always, like. I mean, 98 will be eliminated usually by day one, because something crazy will go down like Uncle. Even though UNC in the history of March Madness is not the craziest thing to go down in. In week one or day one. Right. But after day two, usually there's a huge drop off because you know for sure somebody's gonna lose. Right. Whoever that may be. And then, yeah, you might have. There's millions of brackets filled, and then they're like, yeah, there's eight perfect brackets left. And you're like, who the hell are the eight sickles that actually picked this?

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah.

[Host (David)]

You know, it's crazy. It's crazy.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

It is crazy.

[Bracket Analyst]

I feel like, in terms of brackets, even the sweet 16, that's super impressive.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bracket Analyst]

You just get the sweet.

[Host (David)]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah.

[Bracket Analyst]

And you don't get anything else. Like, dude, that's freaking crazy.

[Host (David)]

Yeah.

[Bracket Analyst]

To go from 64 to 16 and predict all of it by, by the time Sweet 16 comes around, I feel like there's maybe one or two brackets. Like it's, it rarely happens. Or by that time, there's no perfect brackets. By the time the round of 32 comes, there's nothing left.

[Host (David)]

Yeah. All right. Well, before we wrap up, March. Oh, go for it, Bobby. My bad.

[Bobby]

Of course, it's. Yeah. I don't know. There's a, there's a lag, I think, across the virtual side. According to the NCAA.com there is now about 30, 000 perfect brackets remaining. Cool.

[Host (David)]

How many? 30,000.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

30, 000.

[Bobby]

That's 30, 000. It's still in the game.

[Host (David)]

It's, it's a lot. I mean, it's a lot for, you know, for the amount of brackets that are perfect. But it's in the grand scheme of the amount that have, have submitted a bracket. And we're only basically day one in. Yeah, we're gonna get to maybe. I would say it depends how crazy the day is, but like maybe 10,000 after, after day two. And I still think that's a lot.

[Bobby]

Yeah, you gotta think people are just pumping out brackets. People just like, pump out brackets. So, like, some people, like, put 100 brackets into the field. So, like.

[Host (David)]

Yeah. Where does March, where does March madness rank in post season sports?

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[Host (David)]

Where do you see it? Is it up there with NFL playoffs, MLB playoffs, NHL playoffs? Like, where do you see, March Madness fit in, in the whole grand sports.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

For me, personally, I love March Madness, I really do. But I don't like, I, you know, unless FIU were to make it, I don't have, you know, as of a rooting interest in terms of, you know, how much I intensely follow the Stanley cup playoffs I play. But in terms of quality, in terms of craziness, you know, unexpectability, if that's even a word. Yeah, this has got to be up there with, with the top. Right. Because like one, it's, it's a whole. It's a long term. It. 64 teams are in this thing. It spans a few weeks and it's one and done. So it adds that, you know, element that like the, you know, Stanley cup playoffs and the NBA playoff example, you know, the seven games series. With that being said, Stanley cup playoffs for me are like the greatest thing of all time. But this would probably rank up there for, for most people, I would assume. I think it's like the craziest thing.

[Host (David)]

Yeah. I mean, the thing is though, and I hate to say this, but none of our sports teams outside of the Panthers have really made the playoffs.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

No, but like, even we've witnessed heat and even then, I think the NBA playoffs would rank pretty low on my list without.

[Host (David)]

Without your team in there.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Exactly.

[Host (David)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

But yeah, I mean, the nf. The thing is like, it also just depends on like, because I can objectively see March Madness as one of the best postseasons for sure. Like, I love March Madness, I really do. But you know, NFL playoffs, while, you know, you can have a lot of stinkers in the NFL playoffs, unfortunately, but like, if the Dolphins made the NFL playoffs, there's like 100.

[Host (David)]

We talked about it last week when we did the whole ranking of everything. We're like, so okay, how much does this even matter of like Masters, it was like March, Matt, whatever the lineups were. How much does it really matter if your Dolphins are making a playoff run? It's like you put everything aside and it's like, yeah, I want the Dolphins in a playoff run to the Super Bowl. You know, obviously when your team's in it, it just enhances it. From a general sports fan perspective, I do agree. I think March Madness is up there because of the volatility of what happens on a day to day, game to game basis. It's. Nobody's safe.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

No.

[Host (David)]

Right. And it's, it, it tells you something. When the odds of making a perfect bracket, I forget what they are when they compare like, getting struck by lightning is a higher likeability. Higher possibility.

[Bobby]

Twice. Yeah, twice.

[Host (David)]

Than getting a perfect bracket. That tells you something right there, I think.

[Bobby]

To me, though, like, I like what y' all were saying. I grew up in North Carolina. Basketball is everything in North Carolina. Like, there's four schools that could win a championship every year, eight miles apart. And I just remember, like, me and six of my buddies on the couch every March, and we. I got two. I got two national championships in high school. So it really resonates with me. Like, I remember those nights hosting all the boys on my couch. Dude, we got a 64 inch TV when they wasn't even popular. Like, it was the craziest thing. And like, dude, watching those March Madness runs with the boys, we're all Tar Heel fans just going crazy, headbutting the door. Ty Lawson, Tyler Hansbro, like, those are the best times ever. So, like, to me, it's all relevant to, like, your team's success. I do agree with that. It has a lot of weight. And we're all invested in the NFL because, like, you play fantasy, everybody watches. You only got to watch one day a week to know everything about the NFL.

[Host (David)]

Right.

[Bobby]

So I think there's a lot more invested in the NFL, but for shock value and entertainment and like, that, there's just something mystical about March Madness. You just. You can't. If you could bottle that, I think it would sell more than any other sport.

[Host (David)]

Yeah. And I mean, you think you bring up the fantasy aspect. Right. The bracket is essentially an element of that. Right. And I think that's any sort of like, gambling game. Yeah, exactly. Gamified version of anything you could add to sports fanatics is just going to enhance the experience. And I. I think people, like, they build up, they build their bracket. They're so hyped up, and you're just like, holy, my bracket's hot. Or, holy, my brackets busted on day one, you know?

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (David)]

Elite. Elite. We're back. We're back in March Madness.

[Bobby]

I think the NBA is really. Yeah, I was just gonna say, I think the NBA's lost a lot of mystique when it comes to the. I remember when it was like, you know, Celtics versus Lakers, 2010. It's like, this gets no better. You got KG, Ray Allen, Rondo versus Paul Gasol, Kobe, Ron Artest, like, Lamar Odom. Like, we don't have that. I feel like I don't even think I watched the finals last year. I don't know if I've watched the last few finals.

[Host (David)]

Yeah. No, it's true. Yeah, I don't think so either. If my team's not in it, I ain't watching that.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, I mean, you know, the. The Heat. The Heat. The Heat run a few years ago. The Jimmy Bubble year. Well, bubble. And the one that we lost to the Nuggets in the finals.

[Host (David)]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby]

Wait, who beat. Who beat y' all in that. Who be on that championship?

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Well, you know, Bam was injured. 83 beat Kobe, and he would have beat you guys, so.

[Host (David)]

Bam.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

And you're lucky, Androgy. Yeah, you're lucky. You're lucky. Yeah, you guys are lucky. We had two of our top three players injured, and we still almost won. That's how embarrassing.

[Bracket Analyst]

Mickey Mouse. Small world championship.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, listen, but, like, that Heat run a few years ago was probably the most unexpected thing that's happened in the NBA in a long time.

[Host (David)]

We were underdogs in every game.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Yeah, because, like, even when, like. Like you mentioned the Celtics, Lakers, you know, the thing about the NBA is that you could almost kind of predict every year two to, you know, maybe four teams that, like, are almost guaranteed to be there. Right. You know, that was. That was pretty shot. Everyone last year thought the Thunder, like, this seems like this team is unstoppable. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and they're looking unstoppable again. So I think what makes certain postseasons more special than others is. Is that chance that really anybody could win. Right? Like, that. You know, it's like, maybe we'll have a shock. We haven't really had a huge shock, at least in the NBA. And what feels like a little bit. It feels like the winner has kind of been predestined. Like, even the Warrior years, honestly, even the Heat years, the biggest shock was when we. We really. When we lost the Mavs, I guess that was. I was obviously. But, like, you. You expected the Heat to be there.

[Bobby]

That was the first year, though. Y' all had a little bit of.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

Exactly. But it's more of, like, that expectation with March. Like, yeah, of course you've got your favorites. There's always favorites. But, like, every year, favorites go down. Like, it's. You know, it's. It's. It's rare to have a team, you know, just be. Oh, yeah, that's a supple. There's obviously, there's a few examples, like that Duke year with, like, Anthony Davis and stuff like. Like, that was like, okay, this seems probably gonna win everything.

[Host (David)]

And they did.

[Co-host (possibly Pooch)]

But, like, it doesn't happen as often as other sports do.

[Host (David)]

Yeah.

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