#88 The Power of Belief: How Two Kids Who Stuttered Learned to Speak Fearlessly With Modi & Arthur Luxenberg

Summary

TranscendingX Episode #88 Summary

Title: The Power of Belief: How Two Kids Who Stuttered Learned to Speak Fearlessly
Guests: Modi Rosenfeld (stand-up comedian), Arthur Luxemburg (NYC trial attorney)
Host: Uri Schneider (Speech Therapist & Communication Coach)
Release Date: October 23, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into how childhood stuttering, fear, and self-doubt can be transformed into strength, confidence, and powerful communication. Host Uri Schneider welcomes stand-up comedian Modi Rosenfeld and attorney Arthur Luxemburg—both of whom grew up stuttering. Through rich, candid, sometimes humorous storytelling, they explore practical tips, mindsets, and the role of community, therapy, and belief in transcending communication barriers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking the Stigma and Myth of Stuttering

[04:52–07:30]

• Great response from prior episodes on stuttering, especially from parents; stuttering is misunderstood.
• Modi & Uri discuss the irony of the word “stutter,” which itself stutters in multiple languages (e.g., “gimgum” in Hebrew).
• Uri clarifies: Instead of calling them 'tricks' to avoid stuttering, it's more helpful to use positive terms like 'tools,' 'strategies,' or 'techniques.'

2. Stuttering Is Not About Just “Fixing Speech”

[06:23–11:02]

• Focus should be on helping people to communicate, not just stopping the stutter.
• Quote [06:44], Uri:
  “What [my father] did is he realized, ‘stop focusing on the stuttering.’ It’s not about treating stuttering. It’s about treating people and helping people talk more.”
• Many people cope by avoiding situations; the deeper danger is silence and not being heard.

3. Personal Journeys: The Role of Family Support and Community

[13:15–24:12]

• Both Modi and Arthur credit mothers and grandmothers for instilling self-belief and support—driving them to therapy and advocating for them at school.
• Arthur describes his grandmother as the person who always told him he was extraordinary, even when he didn’t believe it.
• Quote [24:01], Arthur:
  “She built me up by making me feel like I’m special. I could do anything… I felt I was ordinary. She’s telling me how extraordinary I am—that I could do anything.”

4. The Importance of Speech Therapy That Integrates Emotional Support

[09:20–12:33], [48:45–53:15]

• Arthur shares his journey: Extensive speech therapy using techniques and real-life practice (ordering food, making phone calls, etc.), but the emotional support—feeling comfortable with stuttering—was just as critical.
• Uri’s father, Dr. Phil Schneider, pioneered an approach balancing practical techniques with psychological support.

5. Sacred Encounters and Leadership—The Rebbe Story

[12:37–19:52]

• Uri recounts how his father was asked to help the Lubavitcher Rebbe after his stroke, demonstrating how communication involves dignity, presence, and connection beyond words.
• Quote [18:46], Uri:
  "Every phone call that we get and every meeting that we have should be a sacred encounter."

6. Four-Part Framework for Transcending Stuttering

[19:59–21:29]

• Uri outlines his family’s “Transcending Stuttering Framework”:
  1. Self-Knowledge: Understanding what stuttering is (and isn’t), personal strengths and interests.
  2. Self-Adjustment: Techniques and strategies, like practicing speech just as one would in sports.
  3. Self-Acceptance: Embracing yourself as “perfectly imperfect”—self-love is foundational.
  4. Self-Advocacy: Communicating your needs to others; empowering yourself and others to respond supportively.

7. The Inner Experience vs. Outer Perception

[27:03–31:12]

• Even successful communicators can be suffering internally; not all stuttering is visible.
• Parents and friends often don’t realize the hidden mental effort required to communicate.
• Quote [30:12], Uri:
  “The experience in here doesn’t match what’s out here. Parents sometimes don’t recognize what the kid’s going through… People say ‘you don’t stutter’—but in your mind, you’re maneuvering, and it’s exhausting.”

8. Dangers of Mislabeling, the Impact of Silence, and Celebrating Famous Stutterers

[31:30–36:01]

• Arthur shares a powerful, emotional story from a documentary: A stutterer who pretended to be mentally disabled in public rather than stutter—highlighting how crucial public understanding is.
• Periel: “Imagine what the world would miss if stutterers didn’t speak.”
• Famous stutterers: Marilyn Monroe, Jack Welch, John Stossel, Samuel L. Jackson, Ed Sheeran—even Moses.

9. Language and Messaging Matter

[35:16–35:41]

• Use descriptive, not evaluative, language—talking about “strong” or “mild” stutters, not “good” or “bad” speech days.
• How parents talk about stuttering affects children's willingness to speak up.

10. Practical Advice: How to Help Children

[38:27–39:03], [44:14–45:44]

• Don’t tell kids: “Relax,” “Take a deep breath,” or “Think about what you want to say”—these may worsen the issue.
• Arthur commits to funding therapy scholarships for families without means; urges collective action.

11. Techniques and Tools: Use, but Don’t Enforce Performance

[45:44–48:45]

• Modi discusses using voice lessons and breath support as tools for performance—but these are not always appropriate (or necessary) in daily life.
• Children should be allowed to “dress up” their skills for big moments, but shouldn’t have to be “on” all the time.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Modi, [00:00]:
  “Everyone has a reason why they think they can’t. In this episode, you'll see. Yes, you can.”
• Arthur, [11:50]:
  “We have thrived in life because of it and despite it. We owe a great deal to our afflictions that we’ve managed to not overcome, but live with and become the top of our professions.”
• Uri, [18:46]:
  “Every phone call that we get and every meeting that we have should be a sacred encounter.”
• Arthur, [24:01]:
  “She built me up by making me feel like I’m special. I could do anything.”
• Periel, [33:32]:
  “Imagine what the world would miss if stutterers don’t speak.”
• Arthur, [39:06]:
  “…I’m committing a certain amount of money … to champion those children… for your organization and us to do something.”
• Uri, [44:14]:
  “If parents are asking what they can do … it’s putting belief that they could be somebody, that they could do something that they doubt they could do.”
• Modi, [47:12]:
  “If I can catch that breath before I go and then move it to the front… that was a big difference in my speech.”
• Arthur, [48:45]:
  “The takeaway from the documentaries were that kids felt that by always being on in that way, they lost their voice. It wasn’t them.”

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Timestamps & Segment Guide

• 00:00–01:45 – Introduction and episode set-up by Modi and Uri
• 04:52–07:30 – Language around stuttering, public reaction
• 07:32–11:02 – What people who stutter really want; focus on communication, not perfection
• 13:15–24:12 – Personal stories: family, therapy, community
• 12:37–19:52 – The Lubavitcher Rebbe and lessons about dignity and communication
• 19:59–21:29 – Uri’s “Four-Part Framework” explained
• 27:03–31:12 – The hidden experience of stuttering; inside vs. outside perceptions
• 31:30–36:01 – Dangers of mislabeling; the need for public understanding; famous stutterers
• 35:16–35:41 – Descriptive language & messaging for kids
• 38:27–39:03; 44:14–45:44 – Practical parenting advice; instilling belief
• 45:44–48:45 – Techniques and performance vs. daily life
• 48:45–53:15 – Therapy: tools versus comfort, facing situations
• 54:15–56:32 – How to connect/get help: schneiderspeech.com and transcendingx.com
• 56:32–end – Final reflections: “Keep talking.”

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Resources & Support

• Speech therapy/services: schneiderspeech.com
• Podcast/Community: transcendingx.com
• Scholarships to be funded for families in need (announced by Arthur Luxemburg).

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Conclusion

This episode serves as both inspiration and practical guide, showing how belief—in oneself or from a loved one—is often the foundation to break through fears and communicate authentically. By integrating emotional support, practical skills, and a commitment to advocacy, people who stutter (or face any communication barrier) can find their true voices and contribute profoundly to the world. And as the hosts continually stress: The most important thing is to keep talking—and for the world to keep listening.

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Memorable Sign-offs:

• Uri [56:27]: “The most important thing for people who stutter is, number one, to keep talking.”
• Uri [57:11]: “Let’s keep talking.”

Transcript

[Modi Rosenfeld]

Everyone has a reason why they think they can't. In this episode, you'll see. Yes, you can. If you think you can't become a world famous comedian selling out crowds around the world.

[Uri Schneider]

Meet Mody Rosenfeld.

[Modi Rosenfeld]

If you think you can't become a successful trial attorney, one of the most successful trial attorneys in New York City. Meet my friend Arthur Luxemburg in this episode, originally recorded on Modi's podcast. And here's Modi, episode 106. I sit down with these two legends and we dive in and we cover everything from stories about my father, Dr. Phil Schneider, the OG with the Lubava Sherebbe, lots of Mashiach energy, stuttering and speech impediments. And the most important thing of all, how they went from kids who doubted themselves to becoming people who knew they could do anything. And crushing starts with maybe a mother believing in their child, maybe a grandmother, and if not that, starting to believe in yourself.

[Podcast Host (Uri Schneider introduction)]

Welcome to TranscendingX. Whether it's stuttering, public speaking or crucial conversations, all of us have something that holds us back. What if there was a way through it? I'm Uri Schneider from Schneider Speech, where we help people talk more and fear less. And I'm the host of the TranscendingX community. Join me as we talk to high performers, researchers and everyday heroes to discover how they transform their challenges into breakthroughs. And most of all, find ways for each of us to transcend X in our own lives.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Hello, everybody. Back to Ant. Here's Modi. We have a house full of guests. We have. We have Arthur Luxembourg back. We have Uri Schneider. Am I saying it right?

[Uri Schneider]

I accept all variations. Uri Schneider. You got it.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Schneider. Uri Schneider. We have Periel and me. We are on a high from. We just finished the two shows in Paramount. Periel did a hot five up front and slayed the house down. Boots.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

It was so good.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

It was so good. She wore her first outfit was rag and bone and it was gorgeous. And the second outfit was what it.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Was, a Jill Sander blazer and Lafayette, 148 pounds.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

The makeup was amazing and you looked great and your husband was in the audience. And you told me not to dress.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Like a cleaning lady.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I said, you can't come on with the shmata. I didn't say cleaning lady. I just said that some of the shirts you wear looks like what we give the housekeeper to use with the glass. Plus, even though they're $500, but Schmatta is for you to get. Don't throw it away. Give it to the housekeeper. She'll show Glass plus. Anyway, we are back in the studio, of course. Want to thank up front our collaborators, friends, sponsors, Whites in Luxembourg, the law firm that not only does well, they do good. They're very philanthropic and they're close friends. They help us. They know that people enjoy this, and this brings moshiach energy, and they want to be a part of it. And Arthur's in the house also. A and H. Provisions. Best glaucocher meats, best hot dogs. Even the guy realized this. And that's where they get their hot dogs from.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

And their website is kosherdogs.net and whiteslux.com or also whitesandlux.com because I was saying it wrong. So they added a website.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yes. Arthur's in shock. Arthur just. Just so you know, never listens to this. His wife, Vanjie, gives him the updates and the reviews.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

You have two websites.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Okay, so we. On the podcast, when we had Arthur last time, we spoke about stuttering, and we had never received so many DMs and emails about this, most of them from parents of children that stutter. And Uri from. What's the name of the organization?

[Uri Schneider]

Schneider Speech.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Schneider Speech. Not an easy thing to say.

[Uri Schneider]

Well, stuttering also, like, it's a funny word for people who have trouble getting words out.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

S is a hard.

[Uri Schneider]

Yeah, it's like. And it has the double sound.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Did you do that on purpose?

[Uri Schneider]

We didn't do it. Also, it's interesting in Hebrew also, Gimgum. It always. In every language, the word for stuttering has a repetition in it, really.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Stutter. It's right. Oh, my God. I didn't realize that. Gimgum.

[Uri Schneider]

In Yiddish, it's kekitzin. In every language, it has this kekkizin.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

It's a good word. So listen, you are the. I mean, I've seen the videos from your. About your work, and we are here. And the number one. I was calling it tricks to avoid stuttering. You said it's better to use techniques or. What were the other words you used?

[Uri Schneider]

You can call it anything. I think the important thing is that it shouldn't have, like, a negative connotation, like you're trying to, like, slip something by a trick. If you like trick, that's fine. Tools, tools, strategies, techniques. And I think different words work for different people. You know, when you make jokes about the Holocaust, you talked about the importance of picking the right words. You don't want to trigger the wrong thing. So if you walk into a room and you say Listen, I have a few speech tricks that doesn't really.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Right.

[Uri Schneider]

People could think. All kind of tricks.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Magic.

[Uri Schneider]

Yeah. So you want to think of things that work for the person, but the most important thing is. It's funny. You do an episode on stuttering and people start talking.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

That's right.

[Uri Schneider]

It's pretty ironic.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

The stickers you gave me. He was very sweet.

[Podcast Host (Uri Schneider introduction)]

He.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

One of the things I love most is backstage, when people send gifts and people send you, like, homemade cookies, brownies, a toy or whatever, something from their company. And he sent stickers. And one of the stickers you had was speak.

[Uri Schneider]

Talk more.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Talk more.

[Uri Schneider]

Fear less.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Fear less.

[Uri Schneider]

Yeah.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Very, very nice.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah, that would be amazing.

[Uri Schneider]

Take the batch. There's a whole set. Yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Oh, they're all different.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

They're all different. So that's. It's true. And I was watching the videos you had of people who. Like the one guy that would. Said he had to speak in class, and instead of speaking, he jammed a pencil into his hand.

[Uri Schneider]

There's a crazy thing about that. That's a documentary. It was on pbs.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

And my dad filmed his work. My dad is Dr. Phil Schneider. He's in Riverdale. He continues to do his work. He's amazing and should be. Well, the 120 he taught at Queens College. She had an office in Great Neck. We drove past her on the way to the show in Huntington. I took him to the show on Sunday night. And it's unbelievable, because what he did is he realized, stop focusing on the stuttering. It's not about treating stuttering. It's about treating people and helping people talk more. People who stutter want to talk. It's not that they want to stop stuttering. They think they want to stop stuttering, but what they really want to do is if they want to stop stuttering, go quiet. But silence is the most dangerous thing. Nobody wants their kid to go dark. Nobody wants their kid to be quiet. And so many people who stutter, you don't hear them stutter. And it's interesting, when you were having the conversation, some of the ways people cope is just by ducking and dodging and staying safe, staying away from a certain word, lest I be heard or exposed. And so the danger of stuttering is less about the words and sounds getting stuck. It's more about not saying what you really want to say.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

So, you know, it's really great to be here again, first of all, and thank you for.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

You're welcome whenever you want.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

And thank you for including me in this group.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

And thank you for wearing what you're wearing. Those of you who are only listening to this, you have to just go to YouTube just to see the outfit Arthur hit us with today.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

So I also spent a little bit of time, you know, watching some of the documentaries you and your dad did. And they were very meaningful to me because it opened my eyes to certain things that I was not even aware of. And the biggest thing, because I had formalized training, I didn't, you know, overcome. And I don't think you never formally overcome stuttering. You're always on edge about it. But unlike you, I went to Long Island Jewish speech and hearing for many, many years, just mentioning his name. I don't know if he'll ever hear this. A guy by the name of Arthur Jacobs, Dr. Arthur Jacobs. And I actually spoke to him about a year or two ago, and we worked extensively on techniques. And, you know, if we have a chance to talk about that today, you know, we should, because it's a lot different from the takeaway that I got from you and your dad and you and your dad's techniques. And the way you approached this was very, very interesting in giving the stutterers, giving the community and people that are. I don't want to even call it.

[Uri Schneider]

Afflicted, because it's just a Facing this adversity, challenged with this tackle with this.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Adversity, a way to get comfortable with it without necessarily overcoming it. Learning how to be comfortable with your stutter and not necessarily finding a trick. Sure, there are ways and techniques, and there are things that children and adults who are overcome with this, you know, can learn. But the biggest thing would be that teaching people to live with this effectively, which I just want to, again, go on record, you know, as saying that I'm a much greater advocate for speech therapy, because I think that in a lot of situations, children, of course.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

If.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

They'Re living in a community where they feel safe finally amongst people that are similar to them, and they're never going out and challenging themselves and going to high schools and colleges and starting to work, you know, the worst thing. And I watched the documentaries. I did. Perry. Ellen, I formally apologize to you for jumping down your throat in the middle of the night, for sending me the Schneider homework, you know, in the middle of the night.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

We're talking about videos that you're.

[Uri Schneider]

My father and I produced two documentaries. One is called Transcending Stuttering, and one's called the Flow, the Guide, Going with the Flow, the Guide to Transcendence. And it's real people. It's the story of real people growing.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Up and what they been through. They weren't. I thought I was gonna hear about techniques, and. Not at all. It was all about the psychological impact of these children and learning how to overcome that and get through it. And look at you and I, Modi.

[Uri Schneider]

Yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

And I don't know who in your family was a stutterer, or maybe your father was just a renowned speech therapist and realize this, but I'm telling you, Modi and Uri, we need to light this up. And I think, Modi, that you are the perfect touchstone for this. And I think I am as well. For sure. Because I'll support it. I'll support it financially. I want to blow this up.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Okay?

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I want to blow it up. I think that we have to give back. Besides all the incredible Jewish. Jewish charities that we're involved in, this is something that's near and dear to our hearts. And we have thrived in life because of it and despite it. And I think that we owe a great deal to our afflictions that we've managed to not overcome, but live with and become the top of our professions. And I think that we need to do something.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

The Rebbe said, when. When Jews meet, the first thing they should do is discuss how to help somebody else.

[Uri Schneider]

We gotta come back to my dad. Mashiach Energy. When the Rebbe had a second stroke.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yes.

[Uri Schneider]

They needed a speech therapist.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

No. Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

I mean, you need a speech therapist.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I saw that in.

[Uri Schneider]

My father was not a religious man.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I read that in.

[Uri Schneider]

He didn't know who this Rabbi Schneerson was. The Lubavitcher Rebbe, which we've heard so much from you on the podcast and everywhere. Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. Chabad.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Wow.

[Uri Schneider]

So this person had a command of what, more than 15 languages?

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

He had a stroke, and suddenly he couldn't communicate. Not only was he a leader in this section, he was running a global enterprise and all kinds of decisions. Financial decisions, interpersonal. So the two people that were helping the Rebbe take care of the Rebbe, they called my father, and they said, Dr. Schneider, you could do a much better Brooklyn Lubavitch phone call. Hi, this is Goldberg. This is Goldberg. We need you to. You're going to come treat this rabbi. My dad says I don't do house calls. I don't know who this is. And I'm also not the person that is the best person to help someone after a stroke. I'm happy to help connect you. And they wouldn't take no for an answer. They say, no, we'll send you a car. He says, no, no, you don't understand. I'm not that guy.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Wow.

[Uri Schneider]

So that night he goes to sleep and he turns. He rebuffed them.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

He said.

[Uri Schneider]

He speaks it over with my mother.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

He speaks it over with my mother. That was Yiddish. Go ahead. That was basically Yiddish with English words.

[Uri Schneider]

It was. It was. Yeah. So he has a discussion with my mom. He doesn't make the final decision. He knows to run it by the boss and my wife and my mother. My mother says, I think you should help this man. I think you should help him.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Wow.

[Uri Schneider]

Now, what my father does next is what really blew me away. You gotta go all in. And this comes to stuttering, too. Like, if you're hedging what you wanna say, you're gonna stumble and stutter, whether you stutter or not. And if you stutter, even more. So my father didn't hedge and say, well, what time can you meet my schedule? Can you do. My father said, when is he most alert? Anyone knows? The Lubavitcher Rebbe was always Most alert at 4 in the morning. My father said, send the car at 3:00am oh, my God. So I was 12 and a half, and my father was treating the Rebbe. I didn't get to see the Rebbe, but my dad had private time with the Lubavitcher Rebbe and he wasn't speaking. And I learned how to put on tefillin downstairs in 770 with Rabbi Groener and by Krinsky. Wow.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

No, that. That you didn't tell me till now.

[Uri Schneider]

Wanted to leave something good.

[Modi Rosenfeld]

We got lots more.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I did not see that happening. Did you?

[Uri Schneider]

So my father. My father has incredible stories.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

First of all, everybody. Every rabbi that the rabbi. Every rabbi that the Rebbe. Every rabbi that ever helped the Rebbe has such insane stories.

[Uri Schneider]

Yeah. So my father. And it also ties into everything, his ethos and his way. And with stuttering, he came in and he said that the two rabbis were holding him, like, locking his arms because they saw he didn't know exactly how to interact. What was the conduct, what was the culture? What were the codes? So they walked my father in, holding him tight. And he sees a person who, on the one hand, should be in a hospital, maybe, but they've set up this room so beautifully with such respect and such dignity. And instead of having, like, a robe with the backside open, satin robe with, like, buttons so they could access. Get a line in, get a line out. But everything very dignified, very. So that was the first lesson my father takes, like how we should treat people who are older and people who might be not. Well, yeah. And the way people are treated in hospitals, it, like, strips people of all their dignity.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Horrible.

[Uri Schneider]

He comes in and the Rebbe is not speaking. And they said, do you think he'll be able to give a fabren? Do you think he'll be able to? My father said, well, what's a fabren? So he says, well, it's kind of like where there's thousands of these Hasidim hanging on every word. And without any notes, he's pulling up sources seamlessly for hours on end, speaking mellifluously. And my father's looking at a man who just had his second stroke, and he's not speaking. And he's being brought in to ask, can he also make decisions? So my father says, I don't know, but let's try. I don't know, but let's try. It's also a big lesson. I don't know. But if you don't ask, the answer is always no. So I'll try. So my father. Basically, the first question was, there were letters being sent to the Lubavitcher Rebbe to ask him to make big decisions. They wanted to know, could he understand? Did he have the ability to understand, and could he give answers that were reliable and what would be the code? So my father said, we're going to take three people. One is a Yiddish speaker, one is an English speaker, one is a Hebrew speaker. My father took the English. They presented the question in both ways, you know, a yes or a no. And they asked him a question about a financial decision that came in from somewhere in Australia. And my father said, just look at the Rebbe, and then we'll come together and compare our notes what the answer is. And so they asked him six ways they compared their notes. They all got the exact same answer just by looking at his eyes.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Wow.

[Uri Schneider]

The second question was a young woman who was set up in an arranged marriage to marry a divorcee. And he was older, and she wasn't in for this, and she wanted to know if she could cancel this arranged marriage. And they all agreed that the rabbi's answer was yes. There was full agreement. And the point was that beyond words, you look at the face, you look into the eyes, you look into the soul, and you see. You see what's there. And so my father was able, thank God, to help Chabad Lubavitch. See, the rabbi knew what was happening. He was able to be dependable in his decisions. My father wasn't able to help him get to the point where he could give a Febringen again.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Right.

[Uri Schneider]

But he had many sacred encounters. That was his first encounter with a person of the magnitude of the Rebbe.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Sacred encounters.

[Uri Schneider]

That's what my dad title of the podcast. My dad says every phone call that we get and every meeting that we have should be a sacred encounter.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Wow. Amazing, Amazing.

[Uri Schneider]

So that's the prelude.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

They asked. When the Rebbe had a stroke, they changed 770. They put him in the back. But everything was always with dignity and beautiful. And you felt his energy still. Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

The other thing that he did, the Rebbe, they built, as you said, they turned it around. They built a balcony. They broke a wall from his study, which was the room. They were taking care of him into the study hall so that he could not have to go downstairs and around. There was no tunnel then, but just go out the balcony and see the Hasidim. And they brought him out and no one knew if he'd be able to speak. And he's standing there and nothing's coming out. And for the community, it was very painful because I hadn't seen him. They so much wanted to see and to hear. It's a painful, traumatic experience for the community. But my father takes away is that you see his attendants trying to pull him back, but you see his determination. And he stood there for a very long time. And my father feels that in standing there, he was also transmitting a message.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

Beyond words. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I didn't see that coming through.

[Uri Schneider]

There you go.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Thank you. Wow.

[Uri Schneider]

But what Arthur said I think is really important, which is it shouldn't be misunderstood that the work with people who stutter should be just psychological and emotional. We need to integrate the two sides. So we created a framework called Transcending Stuttering Framework. There's four parts. One is self knowledge to know. What is stuttering? Who are you? What are your strengths? What are your weaknesses? What are your interests? What are your talents? Understanding that so many people that stutter don't know what makes me stutter more, what makes me stutter less. I'm so busy shadow boxing with this thing, but I don't know what it's all about. And I don't know what I'm all about. What do I really want? The second thing is self adjustment, which is the techniques, the training. Just like you would train for golf or for tennis. There are things you can learn. It's like shifting gears. When you shift gears, the engine performs differently. So there are things you can learn mechanically and drill. The third thing is that self acceptance. Looking in the mirror and seeing you're worth it, you're perfectly imperfect, just like every other human being. That's the way we're made. And love yourself, love yourself up, because if you love yourself, other people will come to love you, too. And then the fourth is self advocacy, which is what we're doing here. And what you talked about, Arthur and Modi, for having this conversation, talking about it, putting it out there, whether you're a young person or a parent, telling the teacher what's up, telling people in your family, in your circle, how you want them to respond when it comes up. So they'll be more comfortable, you'll be more comfortable, and you can have real connections. So those are the four pieces.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah, and that's an interesting thing. Breaking it down that way is very, very helpful in the community, which I never did, you know, and I mentioned off camera, or maybe we were on camera before that. I watched one of the podcasts or one of the documentaries you and your dad did. You know, it was very emotional to me because, you know, I haven't studied this in a very long time. I had extensive therapy, and when I saw how painful it was for some of these younger children that you highlighted in the documentaries, and I watched all of them, and I appreciate the diversity of children and young adults that you presented. You presented them from, you know, from. It looked like observant to inner city youth. And it was good to see that because I have my own views on that and people that can get help and people that aren't getting help. But I really. But what I'm saying to you is that I never remember having one single example of being ridiculed or criticized. Never one. And I was a profound stutterer. So it was very odd to me. Did I block it out? Did I not remember this? And I.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Or not care? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe there was. You just don't remember it.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah, but I'm a very, like, sensitive person.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Okay.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I don't know if I was sensitive as a kid. So I called my mother, right? And one thing about my mother and my family, we were, like, very supportive of each other. It was my grandmother, and I think I might have said this before. It was my grandmother that took me for speech therapy three times a week. And it wasn't like going across the street or next door. It was going from Queens, going from Queens, going to Long island to pick me up from school, taking me to Long Island Jewish Hospital, waiting for me there, and driving me back to Woodmere. So it was a very special time that we spent together. And she built me up by making me feel like I'm special. I could do anything along the lines of what you and your dad did.

[Uri Schneider]

And any anecdotes you remember with your grandmother.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

There were endless anecdotes. I mean, I would say to her, and I was almost. I was in college at this point, at the end of high school, going into college, and I would say to my grandmother, I'm not afraid to admit that I felt I was ordinary. I felt that way. I didn't feel I was extraordinary. I felt like I was a regular kid, an ordinary kid. And she's telling me how extraordinary I am and. And how I could do anything and I'm going to be something great. And I would say to her, you know, grandma, that's so great, but I don't get it. You know, I'm just very ordinary and I have a speech, a speech impediment. You know, how do I get there? She says, you'll see. And I don't know if she ever saw, you know, my successes, whatever those are, but, you know, she gets the credit. So when I called my mother, I said to her, I said, mom, you know, what's the story? Do you have any stories of me coming home, you know, talking about being shattered? And she said, no. You know, you, I guess, lived in a great environment at a time when, you know, you had teachers that also supported this and you never let it happen to you. That, you know, and I. Because I've listened to old recordings of myself, you know, and I said to myself, it's not like I'm speaking normally. I clearly have a real problem, which is why I went for therapy for many years and I needed to get the help, but I never. I never felt that. So it was very emotional that children were feeling that way. And I said to myself, I gotta do something about this. It's not just getting them the physical help and treatment. And. Because I guess sometimes. And some of the comments that we got was, luxembourg's wrong. You know, you can't be in a room alone and not stutter. I said, yeah, people that people jumped on me.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Jumped on you for that?

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I'm not saying I'm a doctor.

[Uri Schneider]

I'm saying stutterers are like Jews, you know?

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

They don't have one opinion. You state opinion. You're gonna have somebody that's gonna.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Everybody's got a different stuttering thing.

[Uri Schneider]

And that's.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

The thing is.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

But I said for me. But I said for me, you know, I'm in a room alone.

[Uri Schneider]

I'll tell you what my father said.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Well, you. I can never. When you and I first began hanging out, I never would have thought you were a stutterer.

[Uri Schneider]

Well, he doesn't stutter like stuttering John.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

He doesn't stutter, but he doesn't stutter at all. We. We've had dinners together. I think maybe months later, he tells me he's a stutterer because he saw me stuttering and then.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

But I never saw you that way either, because I just saw you as the funniest guy.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

No, but you. I get caught at a dinner, I'll get caught.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I just thought.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I'm trying to get something out.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Just thought that was one of your affectations. I never viewed that.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

That's good to know.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Never viewed that as. And when you're on stage, unless you're really blocking. And I know that's a stutterer. I know that's a stutterer.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I never thought we were together at Dina's house and other places a lot. You were on stage a lot.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

You don't stutter on stage.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

So it's very funny you say that. I stutter on stage when it's new material and I'm not sure what words to use at the. At the show in Huntington, Long island, the Paramount. I was about to do a new bit and I was exhausted and I said, this is not gonna come out cute. It was a bit about. Cause we're in Long island and it's all of the communities, Roslyn and Great Neck and this point and that point.

[Uri Schneider]

Yeah.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

You know, all the rich neighborhoods and what's funny now. And we also had the guy from the diner with posters all over the hostage, posters all over the Dine. The Golden Globe Diner. And I wanted to say something along the lines, like, I love how all the Jews are on missions now. They all go on missions to Israel. They go on these programs to Israel, and they're all trying to outdo each other. My mission, staying at. We're staying at the King David. I'm at the Citadel. We're going to get T shirts and the dog tag, but ours is in gold. We're going to barbecue with the soldiers right on the border. We're going to barbecue in the tunnel. I'm actually going to make my daughter's bat mitzvah in the Tunnel with Galat kosher. It's.

[Modi Rosenfeld]

And here's Modi.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

And I was gonna do this bit on stage, but I said, I am too tired to get all of these words out. In my mind, I had it. I knew what the taglines were. It's the barbecue in the tunnel, the gold instead of the silver dog tag, and which hotel they're staying in. And then you can throw in, like, lamb chops and, you know, things that the Jews know. But I was like, wow. Cause I was on. I was. I was fifth gear.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

You were a beast.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

So I said, modi, you are way too tired to start doing a new bit now. And the words are going to come out. I remember one time when I did this, the bit on those stupid presidents of the schools. And I. And I was just. It was that day. And I sent it and I stuttered through the entire bit.

[Uri Schneider]

You told me to watch it.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I sent it to Arthur. Right away, I go, just in case you think I don't stutter here. I couldn't get one word out.

[Uri Schneider]

But it was.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I stayed with it. I couldn't get the word genocide out. Killing. It was a mess. But it was a funny bit and got a lot of hits. But, okay, so, Tahlis.

[Uri Schneider]

But what's interesting.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

What's interesting?

[Uri Schneider]

This is Tahlis. And then when I, Arthur and you had the same conversation in the other interview where Arthur's saying to you, I didn't know you stuttered. And you're saying, no, no, I'm telling you I was stuttering. And so you had this narrative of yourself stuttering. And a lot of it was probably not even visible on outside. It was how you were maneuvering on the inside. And I think that we need to acknowledge that that is a big schvitz. That's a lot of energy that people consume. I mean, what both of you do is hard enough to be a class act in your craft. But then to have to say, okay, it's like a taboo game. We got, like, many words we're going to not say. We have many potholes we have to navigate. It's exhausting. And the experience in here doesn't match what's out here. So parents sometimes don't recognize what the kid's going through. Oh, no, no, you're fine. Because they don't stutter like Stuttering John or someone else they saw on a movie. That's stuttering and blinking and moving and getting and wrestling with every word. People, oh, that's stuttering. You don't stutter. And then people say, no, no. Like, I need to prove to you. I'm telling you. I know. Like you said, the words are lined up, the bits lined up. It's actually awesome.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

I don't trust it's gonna come. Nixit.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

But what we could never allow, guys and lady. What we could never allow is a situation where one of the people you had on a very meaningful man. And we watched him get older in life, and he seemed to be a lot more fluent than he ever was. And he said it was a scene in, like, a supermarket.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Where he actually had to pretend to be retarded in order to. I was hysterical. I mean, I can't even talk about it now because it was so emotional that it was so. He was in such a bad shape and how to get out of that situation that it was better for him to be retarded than for him to go through whatever he was going through at that moment. We can never allow for there not to be a better heightened awareness. We need to take billboards out to address this. Okay. To address this in a meaningful way, using some of the things that you're using. Working with you and your dad working with you. Modi. We can never allow people to think that a person that's presented as a stutterer is retarded or has Tourette's. Not that these are not diseases that also need to be highlighted and need to be overcome and need to be worked on. But what we're working on now is stuttering. And we need to make sure that people don't confuse a stutterer with other diseases that just don't correlate to stuttering.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

I think it's also giving people the power of their voice. Like, imagine what the world would miss if stutterers don't speak.

[Uri Schneider]

Silent. Yeah.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I mean, what a great. By the way. Whoa. Uh. Whoa, Right?

[Uri Schneider]

Yes.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Like, you don't even have to close the show right now.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

No, I have one more thing.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

No, but I'm saying, Perry, just imagine what the world would miss if stutterers didn't speak. And there were some very famous stutterers.

[Uri Schneider]

You'd be missing a sponsor for the podcast.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Uh, yeah.

[Podcast Host (Uri Schneider introduction)]

No.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Lawyers.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Marilyn. Marilyn Monroe was a stutterer. There was a whole.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Jack Welch.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Jack Welch.

[Uri Schneider]

I mean, and he didn't have time for speech therapy. That was his attitude. He said, I just don't give a. And he just went forward.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

John Stossel.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

John Stossel. We've had him.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Hello. John Stossel. Was he ever on the podcast?

[Periel Ashenbrand]

No, we've had him on the Cellar podcast. But we should have him on this.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Absolutely.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Justice. I mean, we could really.

[Uri Schneider]

Stutterers are everywhere. You do the podcast and they all come out of the woods.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

But how do we help the stutterers?

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Wait, I just want to say one thing quickly. After the show in Huntington, I don't know, somebody came and said, this guy's in the back. And maybe Leo texted me. And he spoke to Leo and this and that. And so I was talking to Uli and Dr. Schneider, and I started Dr. Phil.

[Uri Schneider]

He's the original doctor.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Dr. Phil, the goat of speech therapy, apparently. And I said, you know, this is really interesting for me because my oldest and best friend from growing up is a stutterer. And so she was always like my little sister. And she had a very bad stutter.

[Uri Schneider]

Very good stutter, very strong stutter, or.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

A very good stutter.

[Uri Schneider]

That's where the language matters.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

There you go. Language.

[Uri Schneider]

Exactly the same specificity, the precision. Because if a parent says to the kid, oh, did you have a. Did you have a good talking day? Is that kid gonna wanna take a risk tomorrow? Wow. So messaging to kids. Good, bad. The sooner we can get to descriptive language. You could say one to ten. Ten is really fluid.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Oh, those are the stutterers.

[Uri Schneider]

Wow.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Winston. Samuel Jackson Roberts. Ed Sheeran.

[Uri Schneider]

Samuel L. Jackson.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Joe Biden, who we spoke about that.

[Uri Schneider]

Samuel L. Jackson is very interesting.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Must. Should have been.

[Uri Schneider]

There you go.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Ed Sheeran.

[Uri Schneider]

Ed Sheeran, yes. Wow. But I'm not sure about it.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Moses. How do they know Moses?

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I thought you were making that up.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

I thought you were being funny.

[Uri Schneider]

Oh, I get a whole bit on that.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

What do you mean? Moses, when he was, you know, going to the coals, right? Instead of they redirected him and he. His first thing, when God said to him, you're going to be the leader. You got to go, you know, lead the Jewish people and take them out of Egypt. And he said, me? I count. Me. I can't. I have a speech.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Speak the heart of speech.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Are you serious?

[Uri Schneider]

Yeah, yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

It's in the. Directly.

[Uri Schneider]

Right there in Exodus.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Directly in the book.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

I have to admit that you've never.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Read the Torah, is what you have to admit. Never, Never read the Torah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

But Ion. And that's why Ahron, his brother, you know, became so important to him because he was sort of his spokesperson.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Wow.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Welcome to being Jewish. Yes. There's a Torah. Feel free to read the Tora. It's really interesting.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

I can't read the Torah. Right now. Cause I'm reading the five people you meet in heaven. But wait, let me.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Okay. It's 100 pages.

[Uri Schneider]

I love my dad. And you talked about.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

So I meet Dr. Phil.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

OG Phil.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

OG and I'm telling him, my best friend growing up had a very strong stutter. So I really grew up. And she used to go to camp for this. And Dr. Phil says to me, what's her name? And, you know, I'm like, you know, it's so crazy after the show and everybody's talking, and I'm like, you know, I didn't really have, like, a clear sense of, like, who you were busy talking to, Peter.

[Uri Schneider]

It was, like, unclear what happened.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

That's right.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

We had just come from the hostage diner. It was like a whole thing. And. But your dad's so intense and, like, we were like. It was like a very, like, focused conversation. Like, I was almost getting, like.

[Uri Schneider]

Almost like a sacred encounter.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Almost like a sacred. Good callback. Good callback. Callback. And he said, what was her name? And I said. I told him her name. And he said, she was my student.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah, it's great.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

And then he said.

[Uri Schneider]

And volunteered on the phone video.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Oh, which one?

[Uri Schneider]

She helped catalog some of the clips to make those documentary films.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Erica did.

[Uri Schneider]

Yeah, that's what my father remembers. We have to check.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Wow.

[Uri Schneider]

You said, yeah, my dad said, can I send her a video message?

[Periel Ashenbrand]

And so I sent it to her from the show, and she was over the moon. She was in California, and she loves you. And so she. I mean, that was just so amazing.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Wait, can we. Can we. So I don't want to lose track here. How are we helping people?

[Uri Schneider]

How?

[Periel Ashenbrand]

We're not going to figure it out right this second.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

No, but we have to start somewhere where someone can go get help. So we're going to. Just for us, when the DMs start coming in from this, where can my kid get help? What can I do with my child?

[Uri Schneider]

We could set up a page that you can send people that'll have some very practical do's and don'ts. Practical things to do. It doesn't help anybody to tell them, don't do this, don't do this, don't do this, don't do this.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

It's so individualized, the stuttering.

[Uri Schneider]

But there are certain definite, no. No telling a kid. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. Take a deep breath. Relax. Think about what you want to say. Those are all messages that are going to hold a kid back.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Okay, let me start off. This is your technique, but let me Start off this way.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Let me say this, okay, we'll talk offline. I'm committing a certain amount of money to people to scholarships that people that come into your organization that don't have the means or insurance to pay. I'm committing a certain amount of money right now to champion those children for your organization and us to do something. And I'm hoping Modi will do some kind of a show on a grand level that will raise a ton of money and you'll hopefully contribute money towards that also where we can put together a scholarship fund for these children and young adults and people that can't afford and have no opportunity to get any help. I'm talking about both kinds of help. The actual training and I'm talking about the emotional help that gets a person through the day so that they don't feel. Menuchas Hanefesh Guys, is everything okay? I pray for it, you know, just lightness of the heart, you know, that we have a day that we just don't aren't overcome with difficulties. And these children, I think from what I've seen, you know, in the last week since you asked me to come on and I actually studied some of this, you know, is overwhelming to me. And so I'm willing, whether you do a show or not, I'm willing because I'm looking for something and I think, I think I want to ride that. I want to ride that with you and your dad. So I think it's a great opportunity that we've joined, you know, today, by the way. Just, just. I know we're 1050, I'm just gonna say, just gonna say this. It was a funny thing.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

So, you know, I never like going to a courtroom unprepared. So like I'm gonna meet this famous speech guy, you know, you know, Phil Schneider. So I'm, you know, yelling at my people in the office, get me everything on Phil Schneider, you know, get me volumes, you know, and they're sending me things. And you know, my son in law, my son in law shows me that in WhatsApp there's a new like AI right? So he says, watch this, you know, you could ask it anything. So I said, send me stuff on Phil Schneider, you know, on Phil Schneider. Anyway, Sends me stuff. They send me these documentaries. Okay, whatever. It's these documentaries. I'm laying in bed like, you know, two o' clock in the morning and I'm watching one of these documentaries. It's on UFOs, you know, it's on UFOs. I'm saying to myself, the guy was also a UFO conspiracy theorist, famous UFO doctor, UFO, Dr. Phil Schneider. That's a UFO guy.

[Uri Schneider]

So if you go to look up the YouTube video, it's like tens of thousands hits and comments.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

Oh, it's the wrong Dr. Phil.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

There's a guy, Phil Schneider, who was a conspiracy theorist who disappeared. And so when you look at my.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I'm calling my people, yelling at them, you sent me the wrong Schneider. I go, you crazy? It's spelled this way, not that way. And then I realize it's that AI thing. Right. The dangers of AI. Right, right. People have to talk. The dangers of AI. So anyway, your dad's got to make sure that, you know, he comes up first.

[Uri Schneider]

Absolutely.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

That's great. How can people reach out to your organization and find out about you? What are the websites?

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I mean, the.

[Uri Schneider]

Easy. Schneiderspeech.com. that's the private practice.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Spell it out.

[Uri Schneider]

S C H N E I D E r s p E-E-C-H.com. that's our private practice. And we have offices in person and we also have teletherapy. We also have. We've always wanted to make sure that we don't just help people who have resources and have means. And when we don't have partners to provide scholarships, we created something called transcendingx.com t r a n s c e n-I n g x.com created a podcast called Transcending Stuttering. And we have a community around that, a private online community for people who stutter. A private online community for therapists who want to learn how to do this life changing work. And so in this way, we're reaching a global audience of people and transcending financial barriers, geographic barriers, all barriers. Because in the end, when human beings learn how to be their best and they can bring out the best in other people. I think the key from Arthur's story is his grandmother put a belief in his head of Mashiach Energy. Mashiach is believing that the world to come will come. Even though I don't see it right now, I look around, the world is upside down. It's the furthest thing from. But I have a belief that it can happen.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yes.

[Uri Schneider]

And when you put that belief into a person, that's the agent of change. And I think as much as Arthur talks about the therapist, and not to downplay the therapist, when my father and I interview people like yourselves, it might be interesting to hear from you. Modi, what was the change? What was the Game change. What drove you to be able to transcend stuttering or however you think about it? Most people say it was a certain person, a certain adult, a certain caring. It might be a teacher, a family member, a parent. So I think that's the key, is really highlighting if parents are asking what they can do, if teachers are asking, listen to what changes a kid's life. It's putting belief that they could be somebody, that they could do something that they doubt they could do. What was the change for you?

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

What was the biggest ingredient from watching your documentary? I remember when I realized I was a stutterer, when it was, I think, first or second grade, and I was asked, we had to say something, and I said it, and the teacher said, wow, that came out perfect. So I go, are you saying everything else I've been saying has not come out perfect? And that's when I realized, oh, I have a problem. And my. I don't know what the other thing was. I'll tell you a funny thing with your grandmother. I was a horrible student. So at Hofstra University, which is far from the Five Towns, there was a program that my mother used to drive me to and then wait for me. And it didn't help a thing. It was the effort that she came and she used to drive. We should drive back and forth. And we used to listen to Avram Fried and Yoram Gaon in the tapes. Back in the tapes.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

And. And it didn't help a thing. And like your grandmother said, you're special. I remember. I remember this so clearly. We were in the guidance counselor's office, and he's saying to my mother, modi's very, very smart. And very, very. She goes, he's not so smart, but he's not an idiot. My mother literally said that he's not so smart, but he's not an idiot. He doesn't have to be in the remedial class. She wanted to keep me out of the remedial class and I should stay in the regular class. I would have loved that other class instead of, swear to God, my mother, you know, my mother. My mother's zero editing. Nothing just comes right out. But. But a big change in my life, besides learning my. My techniques alone, was taking voice lessons, was when I was taking voice lessons and they showed me how to put everything up front, take it out from back here and put it all in the facial mask. And then, you know, that was a big. That was a big, big difference in my speech. So if I can catch that breath before I go and then move it to the front rather than back here. Heh. He said it's a big, big difference in my.

[Uri Schneider]

Do you do that while you're speaking in the podcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're thinking about your tonal focus.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah, Especially if I'm about to go into a bit. I grab the air and then. And then bring the bit out like that in the front.

[Uri Schneider]

Voice.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Do you have an hour and 10 minutes? Not yelling, but loud on stage? You can't, otherwise you'd have no voice.

[Uri Schneider]

Do you ever let that down? Like just put. Let it go. What do you mean? Not focus on that? Like when you're at home having an intimate conversation, are you also doing that?

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

No, no, because you're at home.

[Uri Schneider]

That's for performance.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah, it's a performance, I think for kids.

[Uri Schneider]

When parents start reminding their kids, remember, do your voice thing, do your breathing thing.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

That's not where a kid should be so self conscious. Like, tremendous respect to Arthur's fit every time. Right. But I imagine, Arthur, there are times you put on pajamas and I'm sure they're lovely too.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I'm sure they're gorgeous.

[Uri Schneider]

I'm sure they're still stunning.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

They must be stunning. And his name is everywhere. Arthur.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

They're like Julian Schnabel and on the.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Back it says shlof Gesunder. Hate.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Guys, I don't want to disappoint anybody, but I sleep in my underwear.

[Uri Schneider]

Okay, perfect.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Well, that's even better, by the way. Very nice underwear.

[Uri Schneider]

But sure, I don't even want to start visioning that. But my father's line is nobody should feel they have to dress in formal attire and talk in a formal, controlled way all the time. So we have to tell kids they can just be themselves and equip them with the ability to. To dress up when they want to, to have that new gear in their transmission that they can kick it into that gear when and where they want to.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Because I think that. And the takeaway from the documentaries were that kids felt that by always being on in that way, they lost their voice. It wasn't them. And there was a very interesting piece where your dad asked a young child to take breaths between, you know, each. And they, you know, asked him well, and the child was much more fluent when he would concentrate very hard on taking breaths. And then your father asked them, how difficult was that on a scale of 1 to 10? And this was a very young, astute child and said, you know, that was like an 8. And then he Says, just talk now.

[Uri Schneider]

He says, which way do you feel?

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Which way?

[Uri Schneider]

Which way do you prefer?

[Arthur Luxemburg]

And he said, and the other way was. He was painfully blocking and stuttering and trying to get through just a couple of words. And it looked like this was the most painful experience you would ever go through as a child. And when your father says. Which was easier for you, he said the other way, where I'm blocking on every word and stuttering, because it's a natural. This is how I am. And, yeah, I could be more fluent, but it takes enormous effort, you know, And I'm also, you know, I'm always on. You know, I am never without being aware of a word that I might block on. And there have been a number of them in this hour where I just substituted or canceled.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Well, whenever I speak to you, whenever you ask you a question, you always do this thing with your face. You go. And then you answer.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

That may not always be. But there are different things. I've.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I don't know if that's how you should do it, Modi.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

It'd be like, yeah, but that might just be my big pause. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think they asked me what was.

[Uri Schneider]

Look.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah, I'm like, right away.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

Yeah. There have been a lot of things that I've adapted over the years that have helped me. As I said, I had extensive training, and it was using, you know, a lot of different methods. And I didn't. You know, the interesting thing is, was I didn't learn any of those methods from your dad. You know, your dad really focused on the emotional relationships and emotional. And, you know, I wanted to. I thought we were gonna get into that today.

[Uri Schneider]

You know, I'll say one word about it, is that the techniques and the tools are not rocket science.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yeah.

[Uri Schneider]

You don't need a documentary on that.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

That's right.

[Uri Schneider]

You can give me practically any person in the room. I can help them get their words out like this. The question is, the magic is, how do you bring it to life? How do you make it a new, comfortable skin to be comfortable in your own skin and to be able to do this easy.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

But I want to see in real life, I want to say with this therapist, Arthur Jacobs, who's now a much older man. I did this, you know, 40 years ago. We used to go across the street to the mall. Going to the store with you.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

That was one of the teachings.

[Uri Schneider]

Yes.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

We physically went to those difficult places that the phone. We started off with the phone call the airlines, and we had all this videotaped and tape recorded how I sounded when we first began, how I sounded two years later, how I sent sounded four years later. And then we would go across the street, go into a restaurant, order something. You know, where you would hear on the videos a young girl who was panicked, she would be in a bathroom. She would go to the bathroom deliberately at a time when she would have to order to avoid having to order. And she'd stay in the bathroom long enough so that she wouldn't have to. So that she'd make sure her mother ordered.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Wow.

[Arthur Luxemburg]

I need to. We need to challenge that, and we need to. And it exists and it's alive and it's well. And I'm sorry to, you know, an organization that I may have been critical of, you know, on the last podcast, you know, where they seem to have really been focused on giving children a community and a voice and a place. You know, I was overly critical of that where I said, no, give them therapy, get them on the streets, get them out there, because one day they're not going to be in this beautiful community. I apologize for that because I see from the things that I learned from you and your dad that, you know, that is equally, if not a lot more important. But I think together those things could be very powerful.

[Uri Schneider]

You gotta feel good. You gotta feel well. Then you can speak well, and then you can be best.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Yes, be best. Thank you, Melania Trump. Okay, so all DMs and all questions should go directly to Schneider. Speech spelled with Cs and I before Es and all kinds of ways that you'll figure out the I. Actually, yeah, I have no idea.

[Uri Schneider]

But we also have on Instagram, hneiderspeak.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

I before E was the worst thing ever in school for me.

[Uri Schneider]

Except for all the exceptions.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Except for the exceptions. And then it was a nightmare for me anyway, so they should all reach out to you directly and talk to you about what they can do for their children and whoever else is in their life that has stuttering. We are so happy that you joined us. Thank you so much for the story about the Rebbe.

[Uri Schneider]

Wow.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Did not see that coming. That was really a sacred encounter that we just had today. Arthur, I can't thank you enough for dressing the way you did today. This is just. You killed it. You slayed. Every Slade slayed Again. Thank you again to whites and Luxembourg for being our partners and collaborators in making this happen. And thanks to a andh provisions. And thank you all for listening. I am. Wow. Motilife.com Be the friend that brings the friends to the comedy show. By the time this airs, there'll be shows still available. A matinee. I have a matinee in San Diego. Improv shows in Hollywood is sold out. Then we have Kennedy center. Sold out. St. Louis, ladies and gentlemen. St. Louis is going to be an off the hook show. We are in. Help me here. I forgot where I'm going. Motilive.com find a show near you or show near a friend. Send them the link. Be the friend that brings the friends to the comedy show. That is Moshiach Energy. Motilive.com Periel Anything?

[Periel Ashenbrand]

I am Ariel Ashenbrand on Instagram and.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

You can for now.

[Periel Ashenbrand]

For now, Modi's trying to change my name and all my upcoming shows and endeavors are on there.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Thank you. Anything you want to plug for you? No? Okay.

[Uri Schneider]

Just want to say thank you. The most important thing for people who stutter is number one, to keep talking.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Amen.

[Uri Schneider]

And for the world to listen. We need to learn to listen to each other. Everybody has to learn to listen to other people. And people who stutter just need that chance. Give them a chance to be heard. You're going to be happy you did. You're going to hear great things.

[Modi Rosenfeld (Host/Moderator)]

Great. Thank you all very much.

[Podcast Host (Uri Schneider introduction)]

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[Uri Schneider]

Let's keep talking.