The job market feels broken to a lot of people right now. Bonnie Dilber has a different read on it. As Senior Manager of Talent Acquisition at Zapier, she looks at hiring data for fun, and she says the problem is not that the jobs disappeared. It is that more people are competing for a pool of roles that has stayed flat, while plenty of work in trades, healthcare, and education goes unfilled.

In this conversation, Bonnie and Brandon Laws get honest about what is actually happening in hiring. They cover the myths job seekers still believe, why AI-written resumes are making recruiters work harder, and how Zapier is using agentic AI interviews and automation across its process. Bonnie also shares direct advice for anyone stuck in a long search, including why your self-assessment is probably off and where the real opportunities are.

If you hire people or are looking for your next role, this one is worth your time.

About our guest

Bonnie Dilber is the Senior Manager of Talent Acquisition at Zapier, where she leads recruiting for the company's business and go-to-market teams. She started her career in education through Teach For America, spent 4 years in the classroom, and moved into teacher development before making the jump to tech recruiting. Today, she is one of the most followed recruiting voices on LinkedIn, and she writes a newsletter for job seekers called Landed.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro
02:00 From the classroom to tech recruiting
04:00 Why she left education for Zapier
07:00 Building a following on LinkedIn
09:00 The biggest myth about applicant tracking systems
11:00 What the job market actually looks like
16:00 AI resumes, fraud, and verifying real candidates
18:30 Honest advice for a long job search
23:00 How AI is helping Zapier hire
30:00 Hiring for roles that may not exist in a year
36:00 AI and equity
41:00 How to vet new HR technology
43:00 Where to find Bonnie

Resources mentioned: Landed BrightHire Zapier What People Want from Work survey

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