Trap Talk From The Back Fence

Episode 147: Back Fence Shoot Out: Ohio Recap & Looking Forward to Vegas!

Aired: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Zach Nannini (A), Richard “Ricky” Marshall Jr. (B)
Guest: Joey “Not So Slow” Charnigo (C)

Overview

This action-packed episode is a live recap from the 2025 Grand American, featuring co-hosts Zach and Ricky, with special guest Joey Charnigo. They dive deep into the massive success of Ohio’s Back Fence Shoot Out—highlighting its impressive growth, unique appeal, and community impact—and look ahead to upcoming events, particularly the highly anticipated Vegas shoot. The episode is equal parts results recap, behind-the-scenes stories, and a roundtable on what’s next for trapshooting. Expect friendly ribbing, memorable anecdotes, and a lot of love for shooters old and new.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ohio Back Fence Shoot Out – By the Numbers

• Unprecedented Growth:
  • Last year: 263 entrants
  • This year: 509 entrants (nearly double!)
  • Massive payout: Over $77,000 (largest cash payout shoot in the U.S.)
  • "350 would have been awesome. 400 I thought would have been absolutely off the charts. And we hit 509, which I could not believe." — Joey, [03:18]
• Inclusivity:
  • Payouts went far beyond just the top shooters. Consoled low-score shooters with silver-shell prizes, ensuring broad-based excitement and engagement.

2. Atmosphere & Community

• Event Spirit:
  • Focused on camaraderie, family, and a festival-like environment.
  • Noted a larger crowd for the shoot-off than even some Grand American events.
  • “I want the family environment, I want the camaraderie. I wanted people hanging around... seeing the show at the end of it.” — Joey, [07:18]
• Memorable Cookout & Smash Burgers:
  • Massive cookout for all attendees, sponsored by Winchester White Flyer.
  • Smash burgers, late-night bourbon, and good old trapshooting camaraderie celebrated.
  • "When you got a big guy in suspenders cooking all night long, you cannot go wrong." — Joey, [04:30]

3. Notable Moments & Highlights

• Shoot-Off With High Stakes:
  • Three shooters tied at 98 to vie for a $15,000+ prize, with Ryan Glow taking the top spot after a tense shoot-off.
  • “Ryan is a hell of a shot... but to watch him shoot his last two targets, his knees were literally shaking.” — Joey, [06:58]
• Low Scores Also Get Paid:
  • "We had a few of them guys that came... never shot on the 27 yard, broke a 78 today. And I think he won 600 bucks or something." — Ricky, [08:21]
• Consolation Silver Shells:
  • Five-ounce silver shotshells given as "consolation purse" to non-winners. Even the ‘lowest’ scores had a shot at going home with real treasure.
  • "Anybody who didn't win something there was in for a chance to win these things... it covered their entry fee and then some." — Joey, [05:09]

4. The Importance of Format & Payout

• Every Shooter Has a Shot:
  • Prizes distributed for Lewis class and random draws, not just top scores.
  • Bags for Lewis class winners, including custom Shamrock leather bags.
  • “All the money comes in and we give it back to the shooters. It’s part of the purses, plus the prizes.” — Joey, [11:14]
• Keeping It Special:
  • Emphasis on keeping Back Fence a limited, regional specialty (not at every shoot) to preserve value and excitement.
  • “It’s a novelty thing... I want to do four to five times a year max.” — Joey, [10:28]

5. Broader Impact & Growing the Sport

• Spillover Effect:
  • Back Fence drove up participation in other events at the Ohio State Shoot by hundreds of entries over previous years.
    • For example, +197 entries in Friday’s handicap, +100 entries in doubles.
    • "Now you have this event that's pulling them in for the three days and then they're deciding they want to shoot those other events because they want to practice more or they're there already." — Zach, [19:44]
• First-Timers Welcome:
  • Many participants were shooting from the 27-yard line for the first time, attracted by the fun and community.
  • Significant number of newer shooters and students came just for Back Fence, stayed to shoot additional events.
  • "Over around 20 of them stayed and shot the all around... that's helping the ATA." — Ricky, [20:07]

6. Looking Forward: Vegas & Beyond

• Next Stop Vegas:
  • Next Back Fence scheduled for October in Vegas—expected to be a major draw.
  • Plan to keep this special with only a handful of events per year.
• Aspirations for Expansion:
  • Hope to bring Back Fence to other states—Kentucky, Wisconsin, and eventually the Grand American.
  • “If we can find a couple other events where it works out, Kentucky would be a great place to have it.” — Joey, [10:50]

7. Personal Achievements & Lighter Moments

• Joey’s Hot Streak:
  • 500 straight in doubles, personal record set at the Grand American.
  • The hosts’ friendly ribbing continues—e.g., Zach’s ‘face for radio,’ inside jokes about sleeping through shoot-offs, and lessons about not teaching your own competitors!
• Young Star Shoutouts:
  • Dagan Voigtman’s stellar run (down only 11 in 1200 targets), birthday wishes, and celebration of other up-and-comers like Jackson James Jr.

Memorable Quotes

• On Atmosphere:
  “There were more people at the shoot off there than what we have here at the Grand American. And that's what I wanted... I wanted people there and enjoying it and seeing the show at the end of it.” — Joey, [07:37]

• On Pressure:
  "To watch him shoot his last two targets, his knees were literally shaking. When you got that kind of cash on the line, the pressure's on the line and you know, it's right there." — Joey, [06:58]

• On Spreading the Wealth:
  “It's not catering to the top guys... that's not what this was geared toward in any way.” — Joey, [08:33]

• On Event Impact:
  "Now you have this event that's pulling them in for the three days and then they're deciding they want to shoot those other events..." — Zach, [19:47]

• On Growth and Format:
  “It’ll do it. Now, I don’t think they’ll do it every time, but if you set up an event and say, hey, this is how it is... and you spread the money across the board... everybody feels like they have an opportunity and a chance.” — Zach, [10:17]

Noteworthy Timestamps

• Ohio Back Fence Recap Begins: [03:18]
• Attendee Numbers & Payout Detail: [03:35–04:50]
• Consolation Prizes (Silver Shells): [05:09]
• Big Shoot Off Story: [06:25–07:15]
• Crowd & Community Atmosphere: [07:18]
• Inclusivity & First-Timer Impact: [08:21–08:56]
• On Not Diluting the Event: [10:28–11:49]
• Prize Details—Shamrock Bags & More: [15:54–16:28]
• Spillover Effect/Data: [17:30–18:54]
• Personal Run - Joey’s 500 Straight Doubles: [26:34]

Tone & Language

• Upbeat, informal, and community-focused
• Heavy on camaraderie; plenty of joking and ribbing (“face for radio,” “I even knew the fix was in on this deal”)
• Shooting is discussed in both technical and personal terms, celebrating all levels of accomplishment

Closing Thoughts

This episode is a vibrant snapshot of a trapshooting event done right: inclusive, high-energy, innovative, and fun. By making everyone—from newcomers to national champs—feel like they have a shot at meaningful prizes and recognition, the Back Fence Shoot Out has helped fuel broader interest in both the event and trapshooting overall. With more events ahead, (especially in Vegas), the future looks bright and welcoming for all shooters under the Trap Talk banner.

Quotes and timestamps correspond to speaker initials:

• A: Zach Nannini
• B: Ricky Marshall Jr.
• C: Joey Charnigo

Listen, learn, and get ready for Vegas!