Ali Macofsky & Jenna Jiménez's WILD Car Crash

Summary

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Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn

Episode: Ali Macofsky & Jenna Jiménez's WILD Car Crash
Date: November 18, 2025
Guests: Ali Macofsky, Jenna Jiménez

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Main Theme

This episode is peak Trash Tuesday chaos: Esther, Khalyla, Jenna, and guest Ali Macofsky share wild family stories, talk about the realities of discipline (or lack thereof), swap medical drama, and – living up to the title – dive into vivid, hilarious accounts of car accidents and concussions. The vibe is unfiltered, fast-paced, with lots of grouped riffing, quick asides, and personal storytelling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Friendship Dynamics, Possessiveness, and Double Standards

• The group opens by joking about being territorial over friendships and Instagram “betrayal” photos.
  • Ali: “I'm territorial about my friendships.” (01:54)
  • Jenna: “I like watching my friends become friends.” (01:59)
  • Ali: “No, it's okay if they're friends, but I need to know everything and don't hang out without me!” (02:03)
• Ongoing banter about being “S.L.U.G.S” (Sexy Little Ugly Girls), inside jokes, and double standards about who is "allowed" to say sexual things.
  • Esther: “Oh my God, yes, Daddy. Like me harder.” (08:03)
  • Khalyla: “If I said that. If I said that… Esther has this double standard where I’m not allowed to say anything sexual because she thinks it’s gross.” (08:08)

2. Food Hot Takes & Disgusting Delights

• Soggy food talk (cereal, sandwiches), gross combos, and childhood eating habits.
  • Kalila: “When I was younger, my mom… would the night before make me a bowl of cereal, let it sit in the fridge so that when I… wake up in the morning, I could have soggy cereal.” (06:28)
  • Orange juice in cereal, ketchup on eggs, and the revelation that neither sogginess nor ketchup can gross them out more than each other.
  • Esther: “The thought to me—ketchup in a place where it doesn’t belong—suddenly I see ketchup in this different light.…” (07:44)

3. Medical Updates, Health Woes, and Body/Egg Chat

• Jenna describes her “pernuvo” MRI scan and the wild results – including her “intact” reproductive system and the potential for early cognitive decline from childhood concussions.
  • Jenna: “He [the doctor] was like, your pussy’s intact.… I could see the little follicles everywhere.” (11:02)
  • Major sidetrack into discussions on PCOS, breast density, and the various lumps and weirdness everyone has, with Esther joking, “All the pretty girls have tight titties. Hard titties.” (13:51)
• The group also discusses chronic migraines and the cognitive effects of concussions.

4. Dysfunctional Family & Absurd Ancestry

• Esther shares a jaw-dropping story about her grandma’s near-death, a suspicious “neck licking” incident that lands her uncle in jail, and the aftermath when grandma suddenly recovers but discovers her entire house has been cleared out.
  • Esther: “We got a call from the police that my uncle… was kissing and licking her neck. And then he basically had to go to jail.” (16:37)
  • Esther: “My mom gets rid of everything… and then the next day, the doctor’s like, things are looking… better for grandma. And she’s starting to eat and she’s starting to drink, and she’s asking where is her stuff?” (20:31)
• All the hosts and guests trade stories of wild relatives:
  • Esther: “I have an uncle who shot himself in the penis.” (26:56)
  • Jenna: “Let’s go tit for tat: you say uncle shot, I’ll give you my murderous uncle who killed his brother.” (27:02)
  • Jenna: “My uncle is ‘community Jesus.’ He gets crucified once a year…” (27:19)

5. Childhood Discipline (Or Lack Thereof)

• Discussion about how their parents handled discipline—or didn’t—and its effect on adulthood.
  • Esther: “My parents really did not discipline me—and when I was, it was by a different adult who was not a safe person and it felt really scary.” (39:24)
  • Jenna: “I was over-disciplined. And I think it’s one of the reasons why I let him [my son] have everything.” (40:03)
  • Ali: “No, I wasn’t disciplined either. I wish I was—it was stressful not being disciplined. There were no consequences for anything.” (39:50)

6. School, ADHD, and Medications

• Stories of being the classroom entertainer/freak, dealing with ADHD, being (mis)diagnosed, and the comedy and tragedy of psychiatric medication.
  • Ali: “Every day [at school], I just keep going up to him [the student teacher] and entertaining him… Turns out, he was just observing me to see if I had ADD.” (48:53)
  • Ali: “I was on Vyvanse for like, 12 years. The doctor kept raising the dose… it dulled my personality… As a kid, just be crazy, is school really the most important thing?” (49:39)
  • Jenna: “I was on an antipsychotic called Zyprexa… I got so fat one time I raged out at my mom because she brought home just two entree [from Panda Express]…” (50:28)

7. Wild Car Crashes & Near-Death Mishaps

Khalyla’s First Big Car Accident – The Main Event

• Khalyla recounts her first-ever car accident, how she was way more concerned for the elderly woman who hit her than for herself, and how she ended up arranging a tow and even offering to take the other driver to lunch.
  • Kalila: “This woman hits me… starts pushing me into oncoming traffic and is just looking at me like this.… I get out, I’m like trembling, and just, Are you okay, ma’am?” (53:25-54:30)
  • Khalyla: “I call AAA to order myself a tow and I order her a tow.” (54:35)
  • The group laughs at her inability to handle her own trauma in the moment.
  • Esther: “Can I hire you to be my assistant caregiver?” (55:39)
• The insurance drama, aftermath, and realization that injuries can be sneaky after the fact.

Ali’s Double Car Totaling & Youthful Chaos

• Ali tells an insane story about totaling two cars in one month at 19—one while making an ill-advised U-turn to meet some Australians with coke and mustaches.
  • Ali: "[I] bought a brand new car...then four days after...I'm driving to meet these Australians with coke and mustaches… As I flip, this car fully hits me… my car spins out in the middle of Fairfax, the airbags all go off. I just hear loud ringing in my ears." (58:08)
  • She totals a second “safer” white car less than a month later due to drunk driving, but escapes legal trouble.
  • Kalila: “And then you got a DUI?”
    Ali: “No, I got really lucky.” (61:04)

Jenna’s Boating Accident & Life-Threatening Concussions

• Jenna recounts a harrowing story of being thrown from an inner tube due to a drunk boater, blacking out for hours, and developing lasting brain micro-intensities.
  • “We were being dragged on a tube by a drunk… He whipped us unnecessarily...I launched up in the air and collided head to head with my boyfriend. I cannot account for six hours.” (64:02)

Esther on Car Accidents

• Esther: “I've had 400 [car accidents], I got to say… It’s mostly just me rear-ending people.” (56:57)

8. The Joy (and Drama) of Sleepovers & Morning Faces

• Group plans for a fort-filled sleepover devolve into jokes about morning ugliness.
  • Ali: “Can I have a sleepover?” (66:51)
  • Esther (about Kalila): “Legitimately, when she wakes up in the morning, she’s like, five points uglier. I’ve never seen it like that…” (67:22)
  • Medical asides about POTS and low blood pressure.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Family Scandal Climax:
  • Esther (re: uncle and grandma): “We got a call from the police that my uncle… was kissing and licking her neck. And then he basically had to go to jail.” (16:37)
• Friendship Possessiveness:
  • Ali: “No, it’s okay if they’re friends, but I need to know everything and don’t hang out without me!” (02:03)
• Car Crash Empathy:
  • Kalila: “I call AAA to order myself a tow, and I order her a tow… I just felt so bad and kept holding her hand… She was fine. I was the one in pain.” (54:35)
  • Esther: “Can I hire you to be my assistant caregiver?” (55:39)
• Self Awareness, ADHD, & School:
  • Ali: “He was in class observing me to see if I had ADD… I gave him the full show!” (48:53)
• On Discipline & Parents:
  • Jenna: “In fact, we have a ‘no’ jar in my house. Anytime [my mom] says no… she has to put [money in].” (40:03)
• Near-Miss Car Wrecks:
  • Ali: “28 days later, I did end up drink and drive, and I did crash my car… Luckily, no one was injured… For whatever reason, patrol let me go.” (60:47-61:04)
• Absurd Medical News:
  • Jenna (on MRI): “He was like, your pussy’s intact… My follicles were everywhere.” (11:02)
• Sleepover Joy/Drama:
  • Ali: “I want my friends to have sleepover… I want to stay up all night.” (66:55)
  • Esther (about Kalila): “Like, I’ve never seen it like that… their face is actually just really scary.” (67:22)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|--------------| | Friendship, jealousy, double standards | 01:43–03:07 | | Food sogginess, controversial combos | 04:07–07:44 | | Medical: MRI, PCOS, early cognitive decline | 10:27–13:17 | | Esther’s wild grandma/uncle “licking” story | 14:01–23:29 | | Weird relatives, family “one upping” | 26:54–28:27 | | Discipline, childhood, and “no” jar | 38:44–42:03 | | School, ADHD & funny diagnosis moments | 47:52–50:28 | | Medication & food, Ozempic, eating habits | 50:29–52:21 | | Kalila’s car accident | 53:03–55:56 | | Ali’s car crashes (two totals in a month!) | 57:43–61:28 | | Jenna’s boating accident, concussions | 63:59–65:38 | | Sleepover talk and “morning face” jokes | 66:47–68:42 | | Final friendship/sleepover reflections | 69:22–71:03 |

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Tone & Style

True to the show's S.L.U.G.S. mantra, the conversation is wildly honest, self-deprecating, sometimes TMI, and deeply funny. The hosts share personal failures, family secrets, body quirks, and emotional vulnerabilities, all with zero shame and in a spirit of unruly girl–gang camaraderie.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a glorious, meandering ride: messy family stories, reckless youth, medical overshares, and heart-stopping (then heartwarming) car crashes. You'll get a sense of the Trash Tuesday community—how trauma and chaos can be laugh-out-loud cathartic when shared amongst friends.

Standout If Short on Time:
Listen to 14:00–23:30 for Esther’s grandma/uncle jail story, 53:00–63:00 for the car accidents/concussions arc, and 38:45–42:03 for the discussion on discipline that touches both parenting and childhood baggage.

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Transcript

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[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, new best friend.

[Esther]

You guys are not similar and you can't be friends.

[Ali McCosky]

We should hang out and then take a photo, post it on Instagram and never mention it to Esther and sleep.

[Jenna]

Over like tonight that stuff.

[Ali McCosky]

I'm territorial about my friendships.

[Kalila]

I just, I don't like seeing my.

[Ali McCosky]

Friends hang out with other people.

[Jenna]

It really means in general I like watching my friends become friends.

[Ali McCosky]

No, it's okay if they're friends, but I need to know everything and don't hang out without me.

[Esther]

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[Jenna]

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[Kalila]

And they're so cuddly and cozy and comfy and soft.

[Esther]

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[Jenna]

If you want to find out Jules's secret crush. Oh, sign up for our Patreon. Help her in her dilemma.

[Kalila]

With this boy, I had to face.

[Esther]

Humiliation also, and I handled it. You can check out the Patreon and shout out to our golden slug, Brandon.

[Ali McCosky]

Wait, your legs are tiny.

[Esther]

No, I know it. Look at my hand. Like, life is harder for me.

[Ali McCosky]

Look at her. Oh, my God.

[Kalila]

Look at this.

[Esther]

Life is genuine. I'm disabled.

[Ali McCosky]

I have giant fucking legs.

[Esther]

Imagine if you had, like, this to wear.

[Ali McCosky]

I would love that.

[Kalila]

No, no, you would.

[Ali McCosky]

I can't wear boots. I can't wear high boots. My legs get stuck.

[Esther]

I can't wear high boots. Because you're comfortable.

[Kalila]

I would never wear walks. She can't carry the weight of the boots on her legs.

[Ali McCosky]

Oh, my God.

[Esther]

You have tiny little ankles. Do you see how hard it's been?

[Kalila]

Look at her bones sticking out of her knees.

[Esther]

It's rude that you didn't offer to carry me in.

[Ali McCosky]

I would.

[Kalila]

I asked her to carry my burrit, a half of my burrito, and a half of hers, which equals one burrito.

[Esther]

I'm really tired, though.

[Kalila]

Okay. And she was like, oh, this is really heavy.

[Esther]

Oh, my God.

[Ali McCosky]

I kind of hate carrying stuff. I remember one time I went on like a field trip at school and I was wearing a zip up jacket and then it got hot and I didn't need it and I didn't want to carry it or like, have it hanging on me, so I just put it in the trash.

[Esther]

I'm really interested. That's amazing.

[Kalila]

That is amazing.

[Ali McCosky]

And I feel like that's kind of how I live my life. I'm just like, if I don't want it, I'm leaving it. Someone else hopefully enjoyed the jacket in the trash. I didn't put it in the trash. I just put it next to the trash.

[Esther]

You don't need everything. And also, I hate carrying things.

[Ali McCosky]

I hate carrying things.

[Esther]

I don't like having anything. Look what I carried in here. I know. Yeah, I can carry things.

[Ali McCosky]

I love the performance of carrying things sometimes.

[Kalila]

Oh, man, I hate it.

[Ali McCosky]

Like, today I have, like, a big tote bag in my car because I'm like, I have a busy day, so I, like, have all my girl who's on busy. I packed my little lunch and, like, I feel very.

[Esther]

What's in your lunch?

[Kalila]

Do you use a cooler?

[Ali McCosky]

No, I'm just hoping it doesn't wilt. I did, like, a salad in a jar.

[Kalila]

I was picturing a turkey sandwich or something.

[Esther]

That would be fine.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, I think that would be fine, too.

[Kalila]

In the car.

[Ali McCosky]

I also like when things get soggy.

[Esther]

That's so disgusting.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, I love kind of like a turkey sandwich. I feel like that would be good after sitting out for a little bit.

[Kalila]

That is a little salmonella.

[Esther]

So gross.

[Ali McCosky]

Wait.

[Kalila]

When I was younger, I used to love, love, love soggy cereal.

[Ali McCosky]

Me too. I love soggy cereal.

[Kalila]

You're the only other person. So my mom.

[Esther]

Cereal is good. That's different.

[Kalila]

Bitch. Don't act like you're in on this.

[Esther]

I am.

[Kalila]

Soggy soft cereal.

[Esther]

Like, I just want it. I do want it. I don't want it hard.

[Ali McCosky]

I like a mix. I like when there's some crunchy pieces on top and then the rest is soggy. That way when you get a bite, it's like a nice blend of, like, crunchy, but then it's like version almonds.

[Kalila]

On top of, like, an avocado.

[Jenna]

What?

[Kalila]

The soft and the crunchy almonds. Because they're crunchy.

[Esther]

You're allergic to almonds. I don't even know why I'm talking.

[Kalila]

Like, I know about them, but you.

[Esther]

Just act like you have this snack all the time. And I know factually you can't have almonds.

[Ali McCosky]

I know about pistachios on top of, like, avocado toast, but I don't think I've ever had almonds.

[Esther]

You are trying to be someone you're.

[Kalila]

Not trying to say something that, like, other people could relate to. Like, a texture that other. Other people could relate to.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Sorry.

[Kalila]

Can I just tell you. Can I tell you the point of me saying this?

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

When I was younger, my mom, and you know this is true, she would the night before, make me a bowl of cereal, let it sit in the fridge so that when I. That's up in the morning, I could have soggy cereal.

[Esther]

That's like unsanitary.

[Ali McCosky]

But then would you add new cereal to the top?

[Kalila]

No, no, no, no.

[Ali McCosky]

I've never. I'm going to try that.

[Kalila]

It does soak up a lot of the milk, so sometimes I would pour, like, orange juice on top or a little more milk.

[Ali McCosky]

Orange juice.

[Esther]

She's showing off right now.

[Kalila]

I'm not.

[Esther]

She's just showing off different.

[Ali McCosky]

Wait, orange juice.

[Esther]

I believe you did that.

[Ali McCosky]

Wait, why orange juice?

[Kalila]

Because it's like a sweet. It's like.

[Esther]

Yeah, Ally actually wants you to leave.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay, I'm willing to try this, but it's like, how would you even come up with that idea?

[Kalila]

I think it was my mom's fault.

[Esther]

What about ketchup on eggs?

[Ali McCosky]

Yes, I'm okay with that.

[Esther]

You are?

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Ketchup. Yes.

[Guest/Ad Reader]

Hot sauce is even better.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, I like hot sauce.

[Esther]

Hot sauce makes sense to me. But ketchup, it. I love ketchup. But on eggs, I'm getting.

[Ali McCosky]

A little.

[Kalila]

Do it there.

[Ali McCosky]

No, I wouldn't do it on a breakfast burrito because there's so much flavor in it. Like, I don't need to add ketchup, but my friend would do ketchup on Mac and cheese.

[Kalila]

Yum.

[Esther]

The thought to me, a work of ketchup in a place where it doesn't belong. Suddenly I see ketchup in this different light where I'm like, what are you y. You're like a plastic bottle of tomato mush.

[Kalila]

It's like when you see your partner in a different space.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, it's so gross.

[Esther]

But, like, if it's right there with the fries, I'm like, oh, my God, yes, Daddy. Like me harder.

[Kalila]

If I said that. If I said that. If I said that. Esther has this double standard where I'm not allowed to say anything sexual because she thinks it's gross. Like, I'm her mom.

[Esther]

I regret saying that.

[Guest/Ad Reader]

Rude.

[Esther]

Dear God, please forgive me.

[Ali McCosky]

Say something really freaking nasty right now.

[Jenna]

Don'.

[Esther]

Oh.

[Kalila]

Even if I just say, like, yeah, so we. And I was on top of him and I'm not saying it in any way, just factual.

[Esther]

No, you do say it nasty.

[Kalila]

No, you hear it like we. That's how you hear it.

[Esther]

Something like you did a little.

[Ali McCosky]

You guys busted at the same time. Like, we're talking.

[Kalila]

It's just how I speak. I'm from Chicago.

[Esther]

Like, say something dirty. I bet you won't sound as crap.

[Kalila]

Yeah, literally, just say so. The same thing that I said. So we. And I was on top.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay, well, that wouldn't be true ever. But so we. And I was on top.

[Esther]

That was so, like, normal.

[Kalila]

No, it's because you have double standards.

[Esther]

Yeah. You're nasty.

[Kalila]

Yeah. What did you say just a second ago that you wanted to repent for? I said me harder. You literally said me harder, which is inherently more crass than.

[Ali McCosky]

You know what it is. I think I know what it is. Unbiased. Meeting you for the first time, outside perspective. You have, like, a sexual energy to you.

[Kalila]

Thank you.

[Ali McCosky]

I don't think. Have, like, some, like, sexual charisma. I hate.

[Kalila]

Hate that you just said I don't.

[Ali McCosky]

And so I think when you say you, I'm like, we can see it when we say it. It's.

[Kalila]

You have two babies. You lit.

[Ali McCosky]

We know that you.

[Esther]

That doesn't mean anything.

[Jenna]

Is this yours?

[Kalila]

It was so season that I gave to you.

[Ali McCosky]

Pants.

[Jenna]

Oh, thank you.

[Esther]

Wait, why are you having Gen Z day today?

[Jenna]

I'm not having a Gen Z day. It's a sweater cozy we're dealing with.

[Kalila]

Again, the fact that Esther has a double standard. Do you want to know? Esther just said we're talking about ketchup and a burrito. Esther goes, yeah, ketchup, me harder. Can you imagine if I said that?

[Esther]

The way. And you hear her say it the way she says it is nasty.

[Jenna]

It's a little wet.

[Kalila]

She said it.

[Jenna]

And it's hard on the containers. And I'm Filipino. But you say it hard with a concert. Yeah.

[Esther]

She's grown.

[Ali McCosky]

She said it.

[Esther]

No one agrees with you.

[Kalila]

And then Ali said, it's okay because I have a more sexual energy.

[Esther]

Priest is here, and he wants to bless you.

[Jenna]

I think, honestly, I. Honestly, I think it has to do with your high testosterone.

[Esther]

Yeah. You're like a horny man.

[Kalila]

Look at you.

[Esther]

I don't. I'm not saying I look good.

[Kalila]

I wasn't talking about your looks.

[Jenna]

You want to hear something sexual? Oh, my God. My pernuvo results. And he was like, your pussy's intact. Not only that, but nouveau what it.

[Ali McCosky]

Why does this sound familiar? I want to do that.

[Jenna]

Wait.

[Esther]

Tell us everything.

[Kalila]

Well, you look really good and hot and gorgeous again, you guys want to see.

[Jenna]

We want to see sexual. Look at the hole in my.

[Kalila]

That's great. She's showing us her actual hole.

[Ali McCosky]

Oh, yeah.

[Esther]

Wow.

[Ali McCosky]

Oh, that's a big hole.

[Jenna]

We said. Right?

[Kalila]

Those are themes, really?

[Jenna]

I give you access to my pussy during sleepovers.

[Ali McCosky]

Thanks for showing us your hole.

[Jenna]

He was basically like, hey, are you, like, planning on having, like, more kids? And I was like, that's like not even on the table, like, right now. He was like, well, then are you on birth control? And I was like, no. And he was like, oh, because, like, you're very. My. My follicles were everywhere.

[Esther]

Really? On the mri.

[Jenna]

On the mri, I could see, like, little, like, everywhere.

[Esther]

Like, they're, like, up here. They're coming out.

[Kalila]

My eyes on her.

[Ali McCosky]

Me.

[Esther]

Get them off.

[Jenna]

So I'm very, very. Whoever wants to impregnate me?

[Kalila]

Me.

[Jenna]

Yeah, we're good to go.

[Kalila]

My. My testosterone. I could see the difference with me is I have pcos, so I have so many follicles, but they're not doing anything.

[Jenna]

I bet you if we. If we scissored hard enough, like, we could make something happen.

[Esther]

One of you would.

[Kalila]

Every time they do the intro, you would get pregnant from us. Every time they do the intravaginal ultrasound. Is that okay that I said that?

[Esther]

Yeah, but you did say it a little bit weird.

[Ali McCosky]

She licked her lips.

[Esther]

Yeah. She gets off on it.

[Kalila]

You get off on it, which is why you don't want me to say it. Look at you. You're fucking blushing, bitch. You're drooling. Every time they do the intravaginal ultrasound.

[Esther]

See, you can see.

[Kalila]

Oh, my God, you wish it were. You can see all my follicles. I have way too many, but they're not developing.

[Jenna]

Oh, because you're pcos? Yeah.

[Esther]

Wait, did you. Can you tell us more about your pronovo. Are you.

[Jenna]

So my brain look intact? No aneurysms? No. All my vasculature looks good and healthy.

[Kalila]

But a healthy butt. That's amazing.

[Jenna]

Healthy butt. I have what they call on the right side of my brain. They. It was like in. On my white matter. They call it micro intensities. And basically he was like, you're smart.

[Esther]

No, it's the opposite.

[Jenna]

So basically, he's like. We usually see this in, like, smokers, people with diabetes and things like that. And he's like, but that's not you because you don't drink, you don't smoke. And he was like. But then the other. This. Then we go to the second tier, which is like, have you been, like, knocked out or, like, concussed? And I was like, yeah, like twice, like, badly. And he was like, oh. Because this is like a conversation like you. You have in, like, within a 30 year span. So basically I can have, like, early cognitive decline because of a concussion. Yeah, I had two really bad concussions where I was like, knocked out, like, cold.

[Kalila]

Oh, so like, less oxygen to your brain in those moments.

[Jenna]

Yeah, so that might be it. Or, like, chronic migraines can cause it, apparently.

[Kalila]

Oh, well, I have chronic migraines, so I'm dead already.

[Ali McCosky]

How is your.

[Jenna]

It doesn't kill you. It just makes you stupid.

[Kalila]

I definite have that.

[Ali McCosky]

You have it.

[Esther]

Don't get the scan. I got you.

[Kalila]

Thank you.

[Esther]

Wait, how was your titties?

[Jenna]

My titties were okay. He said they look like I'm breastfeeding.

[Esther]

Okay.

[Jenna]

Because they're granular. They're. You know, they glandular. This is not granular. Glandular.

[Esther]

Do you have dense breast tissue?

[Jenna]

I always have.

[Esther]

Like, all the pretty girls.

[Jenna]

All the pretty girls have tight titties. Hard titties.

[Ali McCosky]

I was trying to feel, and I'm like. The whole thing feels muscular.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

I'm like.

[Ali McCosky]

It feels like there's bumps everywhere.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Wait, so I have some. Some family updates to share.

[Kalila]

Oh, she does?

[Esther]

Last week, we got the call that my grandma was going into the hospital, and, like, this is probably gonna be it, right? She actually went into the hospital.

[Ali McCosky]

How old is she?

[Esther]

She's 85.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay.

[Esther]

But she drinks and smokes and is, like, not. Has not been in great 85 condition. You know, her older sister is 11 years older than her and is, like, living.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Like, is this the one with a yacht boyfriend?

[Esther]

Yeah, my Aunt Ellen. And then. So most of her sis. Her sis. My grandma's sisters are, like, doing great, but my grandma, you know, she has the alcohol and the smoking. We got the call she was going into the hospital with a uti, which I don't know if you know this, but I'm sure Kalila does.

[Kalila]

Very dangerous also, even a uti, and young people, if it goes untreated, can be really dangerous.

[Esther]

And I guess in elderly people, like, it can go untreated longer because they're not aware of it. But, like, they get a little crazy.

[Jenna]

They get a little crazy because what happens is that they're so. All of their electrolytes start to go, like, haywire, and it's. Usually it's uti, then it can be septic very quickly. But UTI is a very, very common cause for people to go down at that age.

[Esther]

Oh, God. She goes in the hospital and she's with my uncle, who, like. Like, I'm just gonna be honest, is not a reliable narrator. Like, he's just. He's just not all there. We're, like, not sure. He's. We can't, like, piece together what's really happening. But all my mom knows is she find. Finally talks to the doctor and they're like, she is dying. And my mom's like, okay, so I'm going. Basically, they're like, actually, the UTI is gone, but she has been dying. She's dying. She has. She will not eat. She will not drink. The only reason she's alive right now is because we have her on a glucose drip. And once we cut that, like, it just be days. The doctor's like, there's no coming back from this. Like, this is it. My mom's like, my mom and her other brother, like, okay, we understand. Whatever.

[Kalila]

Yeah. They, like, went there to say goodbye.

[Esther]

Yeah. But before they got there, my mom got a call from the police. Stop.

[Kalila]

Oh, I didn't know you were gonna say this.

[Jenna]

Yeah, I didn't know you were gonna tell this part.

[Ali McCosky]

Wait, you already know this.

[Esther]

Oh, we know. Jenna and I know this.

[Kalila]

This baby up in you, making you go crazy.

[Jenna]

Wait, go on.

[Esther]

I don't know how real this is. Okay? I don't know. But we got a call from the police that my uncle.

[Ali McCosky]

Stop.

[Esther]

Who? My grandma, you know, who's supposed to be her caregiver, was kissing and licking her neck.

[Kalila]

No.

[Esther]

And then he basically had to go to jail.

[Ali McCosky]

No.

[Esther]

And we're like, excuse me, What? Because my uncle's crazy. But, like, that is just. Just doesn't add up for us.

[Ali McCosky]

I swear.

[Jenna]

I'm not, like. I'm trying not to laugh. It's hilarious. It's. But it's not. It's serious. But also, it's like, that's elderly abuse. But also, it's like.

[Esther]

But I so truly don't know that it. I really don't believe it has a.

[Ali McCosky]

Who reported it?

[Esther]

Yeah, the nurses reported. Here's my theory.

[Kalila]

Why was the nurses lie?

[Esther]

It's crazy that. I know. That's what my mom says. My mom says that he was just maybe having, like, a really strong reaction to losing her with his tongue.

[Ali McCosky]

Licking. Licking's crazy.

[Esther]

What? I think my uncle is so annoying and hard to deal with, and, like, probably walks in there acting like he's a doctor, like, and catch me if you can. He's like, I concur. I can just see that.

[Jenna]

That.

[Esther]

What I think is that they were like, let's get rid of this guy, and that they called the police. But they did say that my uncle licked my grandma's neck. And I just. That is. That has been something I've been carrying for the last week.

[Ali McCosky]

Oh, my go.

[Kalila]

That's what this is.

[Esther]

And I don't know what happened, and I feel like Because I am sharing it publicly. I need to at least defend that maybe it didn't really happen.

[Jenna]

Alright?

[Kalila]

So what I'm gonna say is that it happened because listen, I know there's a possibility that didn't. However, if I'm a nurse and I work there and I want to get rid of him, I'm not gonna go to. He was licking her neck.

[Esther]

But if you're kissing passionately, I don't know, Whatever, let's go.

[Kalila]

I'm gonna go to like. He tried to take her thing out and he's so. That's, that's, that's dangerous. He tried to take her IV out, so we can't have him.

[Esther]

Maybe he went like this and was like rubbing a smudge.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay, but.

[Jenna]

Okay. The reason that tip on her neck. If you guys were a different culture, I would be like, you guys are just like saying goodbye to gma, right? Cuz like very huggy kissy. But because you guys are not that. You're a little bit like cold and the affection.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I don't know what culture we are.

[Kalila]

You guys are like standoffish white.

[Esther]

I don't.

[Jenna]

Apparently not, because there's a whole lot of kissy licky happening.

[Kalila]

Your mom's not super touchy, your dad.

[Esther]

No, my mom is not. No, my parents are not. But I don't really know what my extended family is because I don't know them.

[Jenna]

But what does your mom say? Like, what did your other uncle say?

[Esther]

Look, you know my mom, like, she has no coloring of the facts. She's just like, so here's what happened. And I'm like, mom, what do you think? She's like, I think he was just having like an extreme response to him to grandma dying. Like, my mom just doesn't. She's not like taking it in right as this going on. So my uncle goes to jail. My family, my mom and my other uncle go there. They see her, she's dying. Whatever. They're like, all right, we gotta like take. There's a lot to take care of when someone passes away. Like, my grandma lives in this house in Minnesota. It's big. It's a fucking pigsty. Because she's been dying and malnourished and my uncle has, you know, who knows what. He's been busy licking. He's not cleaning.

[Ali McCosky]

I thought you were gonna say he's like killing. He was like killing her.

[Esther]

I don't think. No, I don't think so. I mean, I think maybe some like, he's just not like the type a Where he's gonna, like, make sure she's. And she's pretty fussy to begin with, so she says she's not eating. Like, I could see how that. I. I can't fault someone because it'd be like, I don't know how to.

[Kalila]

She's like, maybe he was trying to feed her and, like, food got here.

[Esther]

Yeah. I don't know. You can make up stories, whatever. We can all. Let's just. On our own time. We'll think about the licking. But my mom, my aunt, my other aunt are there for a few days and they're just cleaning out the house, right? They're like, getting rid of everything, donating everything, because this house needs to sell. Because, you know, they just want to get it going because they're only there for this amount of time to say goodbye. My mom gets rid of everything of my grandma's.

[Kalila]

Oh, and your mom's quick.

[Esther]

Yeah. And then the next day, the doctor's like. Like, things are looking. Things are looking better for grandma. And she's starting to eat and she's starting to drink, and she's asking where is her stuff? And saying she wants to go home. But my mom completely cleaned out her whole house.

[Ali McCosky]

You gotta put her down like a dog.

[Esther]

All her stuff is gone. I'm like, what's gonna happen?

[Kalila]

Oh, my God. Yeah, you gotta put her down.

[Ali McCosky]

You gotta put her down.

[Jenna]

You know what's so funny is that you were talking shit about yourself, sister. Being hopeful that grandma was gonna turn around. You're like, what is wrong with her?

[Ali McCosky]

Wait, but now that grandma can talk, can she elaborate on uncle.

[Esther]

She can talk.

[Ali McCosky]

Does she have any memories of.

[Esther]

No, she doesn't. She just asked, where is he? But he now legally can't see her. Oh, so he can't.

[Jenna]

Was it. Was he the legal caretaker?

[Esther]

Well, my mom's a power of attorney, but he was. He was taking care of her. I don't know what the legality is. But he now can't see her anymore.

[Ali McCosky]

Because he's still in jail.

[Esther]

He got out on Monday, so he's out.

[Ali McCosky]

And did he say, like, lol. Misunderstanding.

[Esther]

He was just like, the cops. Totally. Like, he was like, everything got blown out of proportion. And he was, like, traumatized, I think, from spending the weekend in jail.

[Kalila]

Blown out of proportion. So he didn't say that didn't happen. He just said.

[Esther]

I don't know what he said. And it's like, I'm only getting a second hand from my mom, and she probably doesn't want to Talk to him.

[Jenna]

Not to defend your uncle in any way. People do have really strange reactions to people dying. And not to say it's a licking, but my best friend, when my dad was passing away and we were watching the monitor slowly start to kind of, you know, the heartbeat slowly disappear. My best friend is the first kind of dying body that she'd ever seen. And she did the weirdest thing. She approached my dad's gangrenous foot because he had no more. My dad's foot was already, like, black and gone. No more circulation. And she did the weirdest thing, which would probably prompt a nurse to be like, what are you doing? Except that he was really on his way out.

[Ali McCosky]

Suck his toes.

[Jenna]

She didn't suck his toes, but she was like. Like petting the black foot like this. Like a gangrenous foot. And I was looking at her and my sister and I like, is, what is she doing? And she didn't even know what she was doing. She was so uncomfortable. So I.

[Kalila]

You, like, go to a different place.

[Jenna]

And she's like the sanest person we know.

[Kalila]

She's her to do that means that someone else who's maybe not as sane could definitely go to licking.

[Esther]

I. I agree with you. I think that I don't know what happened. It. It's a wild report. And obviously within my family, we were like, like, what the. But as I, you know, give it some great. I'm trying publicly give it some grace. Like, who knows? Maybe it didn't happen.

[Jenna]

Loves his mama.

[Esther]

Yeah. But to me, the funny thing is my grandma, she's homeless.

[Ali McCosky]

Maybe it's like. It's like Sleeping Beauty, like your uncle's lick.

[Kalila]

Oh, my God.

[Esther]

But she's, like, coming back. She's, like, being mean to everybody again. Like, it's.

[Jenna]

She really bounced back.

[Esther]

Yeah, I called her. We FaceTimed to, like, was supposed to be our.

[Jenna]

Oh, she's alive.

[Esther]

Alive. Yeah. No, she, like. My mom was like, facetimer, we have to say goodbye. And it's like she was, like, asking me, how's the weather? Like, it was not a goodbye call.

[Kalila]

So it was a hello call. Yeah.

[Esther]

I don't know what is going to happen. Like, what's the next step here?

[Kalila]

But they better tell her about her stuff before she goes home because she might have a heart attack and die.

[Jenna]

Well, the house wasn't sold in that short amount of time, obviously.

[Kalila]

No, but just her stuff.

[Jenna]

We got to do a target run. We gotta do a quick target run, resupply some things.

[Esther]

I think, realistically.

[Kalila]

Oh, she'll probably go to a facility.

[Esther]

She's gonna go to a home. Yeah, yeah. She's gonna go to a nursery.

[Jenna]

But if she's cognitively still there, that's a choice she has to make.

[Esther]

I think that the doctors have said that she needs to go to a facility because she, like, is not able to do, like, anything.

[Jenna]

Oh, her physical, her actual, like, take.

[Esther]

Which is what's been so weird throughout. This is like, her brain is there, but, like, her body is shutting down.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay, Body roll.

[Esther]

Yeah, her body.

[Kalila]

That was actual. What you did there.

[Jenna]

Well, you know, shout out to Grandma for bouncing back. I gotta give it up to her.

[Esther]

Oh, the jokes on all of us.

[Kalila]

Yes.

[Esther]

She's her ninth live is life is coming through.

[Ali McCosky]

It's like, my grandma. My grandma's, like, 95. Yeah.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Ali McCosky]

She's been wanting to die for maybe six years. Like, she's like, I'm done. No more. Put me away.

[Kalila]

Put me down.

[Ali McCosky]

Put me down. She's like. She kept saying recently, I can't wait to take a dirt nap app.

[Esther]

And I'm like, just a quick one.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

And then she's with it. If she's saying that, she's, like, with it.

[Ali McCosky]

But she keeps repeating herself. And she's, like, living at this, like, old people's home, and she doesn't socialize with anyone. She thinks she's, like, diva, so she won't hang out with anyone, which is so sad because there's some, like, cool people. I walk around, I see some of these people, and they're cool. And she's like, I don't want a man. Like, at this age, men only want the purse or a nurse. And I'm not either. And I'm like, what are you? You're 95. No one's trying to. You, like.

[Jenna]

But that's the thing. They do try to especially trust me.

[Ali McCosky]

Really. She can't even stand because the higher.

[Jenna]

Rates of STDs are in nursing homes in that population.

[Esther]

Well, I know my aunt who has the boyfriend. She's 96. They just. They have sleepovers, and they just lay in bed and hold hands.

[Ali McCosky]

Really cute.

[Kalila]

It's so cute.

[Esther]

Yeah. They can't really do much more.

[Kalila]

I love that.

[Esther]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Kalila]

Oh, is that too sexual for you?

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Oh, and you like it?

[Kalila]

You were all about. Until I was like, oh, that's. Kalila was like, that's sweet. That's sweet, everyone. You're like, yeah. And I said, that's sweet.

[Esther]

And you're like, you're taking it too far.

[Jenna]

I do feel a little bit closer to you in that. Like, you have a weird uncle.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna]

I do feel like, okay, I might be from. Yeah, I got a weird family, so I'm like, okay.

[Ali McCosky]

I feel like my dad's the weird uncle.

[Jenna]

He is.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah. Because I don't really have any weird uncles, so I'm like, it must be my dad.

[Jenna]

You always come across as someone from, like, good stock.

[Kalila]

Oh, where are you from?

[Ali McCosky]

Long Beach.

[Jenna]

Good stock. Long beach it is.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

Top tier long beaches.

[Kalila]

Everyone nodding.

[Jenna]

I spent my weekend there for a reason. I love Long Beach.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, I love Long beach, too.

[Kalila]

Long beach is.

[Ali McCosky]

My parents are crazy.

[Esther]

Yeah. No, there's a lot. I mean, when it comes to my family, I've got. I've got more to just really match you.

[Kalila]

I feel like you think Esther's normal and she's not.

[Jenna]

No, I don't think she's normal. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think she's normal at all.

[Kalila]

Or, like, she's in, like, normal family or something.

[Esther]

Yeah, I mean, I have an uncle who shot himself. Himself in the penis. Stop.

[Kalila]

Wait.

[Ali McCosky]

Can you explain this story? Penis.

[Jenna]

Let's go. Tit for tat. You say uncle shot, I'll give you my murderous uncle who killed his brother.

[Esther]

Okay. That. You have me there. Because my one uncle only threatens to kill my other uncle. Like, literally, though, like, once a week. He's like, I'm gonna murder him. But he's not done it officially.

[Jenna]

Also, my uncle is community Jesus. Did we forget that he gets crucified once a year to the cross? I can't. During Easter Sunday.

[Esther]

I can't watch you there.

[Jenna]

Yeah, but the shooting in the penis. Pretty close to crucified, you know, uncle.

[Esther]

Should he repeat his head?

[Ali McCosky]

Could I hear more about this?

[Esther]

Yeah, well, so there is one theory in the family.

[Ali McCosky]

Is he not alive?

[Esther]

No, he's alive.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay. Just no instructions.

[Esther]

He actually recently. What is it called when you're, like, doing, like, steel work and you're supposed to be wearing a big mask? Welder, something like that recently, and there was an explosion, but he wasn't wearing his mask. Like, he's always, like, doing stuff like that. He was a Navy seal. Like, there's just always.

[Ali McCosky]

Ooh, yeah.

[Jenna]

Oh, impressive.

[Esther]

There's a theory in my family, though, that maybe, like, someone he was married to or was with shot him in the penis and that he covered for her. But that's just a theory. Like, I. Oh, and he wears the bullet around his neck.

[Jenna]

What kind of like, very romantic.

[Kalila]

Tooth.

[Jenna]

Wait, he covered for her, you think?

[Esther]

We don't know. We don't know.

[Jenna]

Were they able to reattach? It is my question. Were they able to find the piece and put the piece back together?

[Esther]

They've made. There's jokes that have been made that make me uncomfortable, but that. He's doing fine.

[Jenna]

Oh, okay.

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[Ali McCosky]

On my birthday blew out my effing candles and I was like I hate you.

[Jenna]

This is the thing. When I see parents and it's like a kid's birthday, let's say four, four year old, five year olds, right. And a kid comes around and tries to blow out her candle and the parents don't stop it and think it's funny money. I think that's up.

[Ali McCosky]

I was miserable.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Esther]

What birthday was it?

[Ali McCosky]

It was like maybe my seventh or eighth.

[Kalila]

And you still remember it?

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Ali McCosky]

Oh yeah.

[Jenna]

Because you do remember it. It's your special day and someone's trying to just blow out your.

[Kalila]

Did they not put like more candles in it to.

[Ali McCosky]

I mean but yeah, I'm sure they did. But I'm like that now. I'm crying and I'm like I wish my cousin was dead. He's alive.

[Kalila]

Sorry. That would make me upset and not many things make me upset.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah. Pissed me off.

[Esther]

Did your brother your torture you?

[Kalila]

Are you kidding me? What? What, what do you think happened? We were just best friends.

[Esther]

What did he do to you?

[Kalila]

I get along with him. I like him. Sure. But he was still a. He was still a brother.

[Ali McCosky]

Is he older?

[Kalila]

He was six years older than me.

[Ali McCosky]

Oh my God.

[Kalila]

He would fucking just like hit me and hold My head here. He would play this game called Buck and Bronco where he would be like, okay, yeah, get on my back, and then I'll ride you. Slam me. Literally fly me into the wall, into the bed frame. And before I could start crying, he would go, no, no, no, you're okay. No, you're okay. Okay. And then I'd be like, mom, Jenna, Jenna, I swear to God. And I'm like, I'm okay. Yeah. Are you like, what?

[Ali McCosky]

What?

[Kalila]

Brother is not like, yeah, brothers are rough.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah. Sisters are more, like, emotionally manipulative and, like, more sadistic mentally, whereas guys are just like, yeah, he was.

[Kalila]

He was also, like, very manipulative. He would make me get things for him. Like, I became his chauffeur. And my mom would always say, like, jenna, you don't see that you're becoming his chauffeur. That's what he's doing. Just tell him no. But he would, like, tell me, like, oh, I'll let you play this video game if you go get that for me. So then I would go get it, and then I would sit by him for, like, four or five hours, and my mom was like, he's not gonna let you play. Don't you see? It hasn't happened.

[Esther]

Why couldn't she intervene?

[Kalila]

I mean, she would try, but my brother, he's. She got other things to do. You know, back then, it was like, siblings. Figure it out.

[Jenna]

Wait, would you intervene, Miss? I have problems with discipline.

[Esther]

I would just let you let it be or do something I wouldn't like. I don't know. I have discipline problems.

[Ali McCosky]

Do you?

[Kalila]

I mean, my parents don't have discipline problems, but it's like, what are you gonna do to, like, siblings being siblings? I be like, gabriel, you can no longer play video games ever.

[Esther]

Look, something comes up for me when, like, Dave is like, I'm taking that away from you.

[Ali McCosky]

From you or from.

[Esther]

From the baby?

[Ali McCosky]

From A.C. like, she's. I wasn't sure if Dave was reprimanding you. He's like, I have to take the phone away.

[Esther]

The reaction that I have is so large that I'm like, something bigger is going on here. This isn't just like, okay, get over it. It's fine. This is hard. It's like. Like something. Like, I'm, like, sweaty and clammy, and I'm like, no, no.

[Jenna]

Like, I just.

[Esther]

I can't take things away from her.

[Kalila]

It's horrible.

[Esther]

Like, if we go from room to room, you know, Dave, like, let's leave that in this room. And I. I'm like, why? I don't understand why. Like, why do we have to leave that in this room?

[Jenna]

She's holding it.

[Esther]

She wants, like, something I don't.

[Kalila]

It's the same with her dog, though, too. It's like, you try and discipline her dog, and she's like, well, that's what she wants.

[Jenna]

I really kind. I do empathize with you.

[Esther]

Explain.

[Jenna]

It is very hard to. Because it's like, for me, it's like he doesn't understand why things are being taken away. He just wants to hold it.

[Esther]

Okay.

[Kalila]

But a dog.

[Esther]

A dog.

[Jenna]

I mean, obviously wires and electrical things. I'm like. I'm very firm with him. It's like, no, we're not doing. Doing that. But if it's just a river rock and you just want to take it to the next room.

[Kalila]

Well, no one's talking about a river rock.

[Esther]

Yeah, it could be a river rock.

[Jenna]

And that's why both parents are needed. Like, I truly think that you need to offset both. You need both energies. Like, I need aloha to be like, this stays here. Because this stays here. This is where this belongs. And I can't do that. I'm kind of like you, where. It's like, he doesn't know that's where it belongs. He's a year old.

[Kalila]

But those are used to the idea that I know everything. Everything.

[Jenna]

But I feel like they're too young at this age to do the whole discipline thing. I think when they're a little bit older, you need to be, like, you know, firmer.

[Kalila]

Yeah. I don't think she needs to be disciplined. I think it needs to be okay that, like, when I'm there and Ace grabs something of mine that I don't want her to take, whether it's because it's dangerous or not. I just go like, nope. No, thank you. I don't feel like you can't take that. And she's fine with it.

[Esther]

Yeah, it is fine when you do it. I just can't do it.

[Jenna]

Oh, my God.

[Kalila]

Because she can't do it, Ace has a bigger reaction because she feels you being.

[Jenna]

Being like, I see what you're saying.

[Kalila]

Yeah. And then Ace is like.

[Esther]

It's also. Our nanny is like, you guys, let her just do whatever. And nanny will be like, that's not a toy. And I'm like, but it's okay.

[Jenna]

She's discovering the world. That's what I say. I was like, she's just new to everything. She doesn't know what a toy or.

[Kalila]

You know, and part of that is true. I do agree with, like, they're not supposed to be able to discern between. Between a toy and a. Not to. You know what I think? I think it's okay for children to have things taken away in a gentle loving that you are.

[Jenna]

You are. Absolutely.

[Esther]

Of course I know that's true. I think for me, it's something that's about. That's within me that it might be like. Because my parents really did not discipline me. And so then when I was disciplined, it was by, like, a different adult that was not, like, a safe person. And it, like, felt really scary. I don't know. It just makes me really uncomfortable because in my house, it was like we were all equals. And I'm not saying that's good or bad. It just was, like, how it was. I don't know.

[Jenna]

Were you.

[Esther]

Were you disciplined?

[Ali McCosky]

No.

[Kalila]

And look at her now. She's thr.

[Ali McCosky]

I wish I was. It was stressful not being disciplined. Like, everything was too chill. There were no consequences for anything.

[Kalila]

It's just like animals. Animals don't feel safe if there aren't boundaries.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

I was over disciplined. And I think it's one of the reasons why I let him have. Have everything. Because I'm like, every answer to my question was no. Everything was a no in my household. In fact, we have a no jar in my house. And it's for my mom. Anytime she says no. Now as an adult, when she says it to my son, she has to put, really?

[Esther]

What does she say?

[Jenna]

She says, no, no, no. And she doesn't just say no once. Everything is a no. Even when you tell her something like you're affirming something, she says, let's say no.

[Ali McCosky]

No, no, no.

[Jenna]

My mom's like, the sky is blue. I'm like, yeah, the sky is blue, isn't it? She goes, no, no. That's her first thing. It's like she feels like the need to oppose.

[Kalila]

And it's almost like she says that instead of like, wait or hold on, she says no.

[Jenna]

She says no first. So we have a no jar because it's like he cannot grow up hearing no all to everything. So how we do it in our household is like we baby proof it so that. So much so that, like, he can play with most things in the house that are generally safe, that we. I don't have to constantly be like, not that, not that, not that. No, no, no, no. That doesn't become like. Because that was my entire childhood is no.

[Kalila]

Damn.

[Jenna]

Yeah. And I Hated it. I hated it so much.

[Kalila]

Yeah, that's. That's a lot. So you were never told anything? Like, no.

[Ali McCosky]

Like, one. Like, one time I got super high. I was supposed to drive my dad and my stepmom to, like, a party, and I was like, I went to my friend's place beforehand, and I ended up getting, like, so high and, like, freaking out. And. And so I called my dad, and I was like, hey. And he was like, hey, are you coming to pick me up? And I was like, so here's the thing. I need you to pick me up because I'm very high. And so he's like, okay. So he picks me up, and then just, like, dropped me off at home, and that was it. And then I just watched, like, YouTube videos of circles for, like, 12 hours.

[Esther]

I am totally team your dad on that. You called him and me told. Told him the truth.

[Jenna]

Trust.

[Esther]

Great. I'm gonna take care of you.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Ali McCosky]

I mean, I think that part of it is, like, good. Like, I didn't feel like I was capable. Like, I didn't feel like I was, like, a bad kid or anything. But I do think in terms of, like, school or structure, like, that's where it was, like, really difficult. Like, I had no sense of, like, I need.

[Esther]

I.

[Ali McCosky]

There's responsibilities that I have to take care of. It was kind of like, whatever. It's on you. Like, if you do it, you do it if not. And so I wish in that way, I was, like, a little bit bit more, like, push to.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Versus, like, disciplined and.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Esther]

One of my best friends in high school, she was. She had just moved to the United States. Her parents were Brazilian diplomats, and so she'd lived her whole life there. And so, like, she. That was her culture, whatever. And I feel like I learned so much from her. And one thing, she. She was like, it's very much of the American culture to lie to your parents. And I was like, that's so true. And so I was like, I want to be like her and the Brazilians. And so I was like, I never lied to my parents.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I never lied to my mom either. But my mom also just let me do whatever, but because there was that trust, like, I didn't have to lie to her about anything. She always told me, like, if you do happen to drink or you're with someone who's drinking, please call us. It doesn't matter what time of day, night.

[Esther]

And you're 37. You still haven't drank.

[Kalila]

Yeah. And then I ended up never drinking.

[Ali McCosky]

Whoa.

[Kalila]

Like, haven't been drunk drunk. It just never happened because I just felt like I had other things to do. I was, like, in choir and dancing.

[Esther]

And doing Celine Dion impressions.

[Kalila]

Celine Dion impressions? Yeah. One rule my mom had was, like, if you start something, you finish it. Whether it's, like, something that you sign up for, whether it's a basketball league, whether it's, like, your homework. My ADHD was so bad, though, so I think that was the only frustrating thing for her. Like, she would get called into school all the time. I had in school, suspension all the time.

[Ali McCosky]

Me, too. Were they really? Yeah, I was always in detention.

[Kalila]

I just. For any little thing I couldn't sit. Things that I look back on now, like, I had a bouncy ball. And it, like, went into a teacher's face one time. Mr. Demi Propolis on stage.

[Esther]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Kalila]

I didn't. It wasn't. I was just trying to.

[Jenna]

She needed to stim.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

I was just trying to focus in.

[Esther]

Oh, you really. Wow.

[Kalila]

Or I would be in class again. I was a great student, but. But I would sit like this.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Yeah. And they're like, I love those people. Make me laugh still.

[Kalila]

And I had a teacher, Mr. Swanson. What up? Who told me.

[Ali McCosky]

Wait, I had a Ms. Swanson.

[Kalila]

Oh, my God. Did you like her?

[Ali McCosky]

No, she was kind of mean.

[Kalila]

Mr. Swanson, who I, like, still keep in touch with.

[Jenna]

With.

[Kalila]

I walked into Ms. Weber's class one year, and she said, I'm not teaching you. And, like, if you can imagine me, like, I was a kind person.

[Jenna]

You're just probably annoying for an adult.

[Kalila]

Very annoying for an adult and for other students, which I didn't understand at the time.

[Esther]

I wish we were friends. I love the person you look over. We're all sitting like this, and they're just like. Like, that guy. I love that guy.

[Kalila]

That guy and me guy. And Mr. Swanson, I remember, walked into the room and he said. I said, hey. Like, she won't teach me. And he was my, like, AP lit teacher. And he goes, let me just talk to her. And he said, does she do her work? He's like, yes. Does she participate in class? Yes. She was like, but she's just so disruptive. And he said, let her sit how she wants and let her sit on the floor. I promise you, it'll all go away. She kept me in her class.

[Esther]

What's good? I didn't even know, though, that teachers could say, like, I'm not teaching you.

[Kalila]

Chicago Public School. They could do whatever the fuck they want? They could literally hit you. It would be fine.

[Jenna]

Do you know what? What Roger did for me my senior year, because I was about to, like, completely fail out of my senior year.

[Ali McCosky]

Roger.

[Jenna]

Roger's my stepdad, who was my history teacher in high school. I was going through such a crisis, and I was in and out of Shout Out, BHC and Torrance. I was in and out of psych hospitals because I kept wanting to unalive myself. It's so. Yeah.

[Kalila]

As it were.

[Jenna]

Yeah. I kept wanting to unalive myself. I was in a bad way. And he struck a deal with all of my teachers and basically said, she stays in my classroom all day. I will give. Give me all of the work she needs to get done. I will homeschool her in my classroom, keep an eye on her.

[Esther]

No way.

[Jenna]

My English teacher, Mr. Dakin, picked me up from. Picked me up from my house every morning, and Roger drove me home every day. They were like, we gotta get this girl. She's very bright. She's just going through it, like, mentally, like her dad is dying.

[Esther]

Surprising, because you are really smart.

[Kalila]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

And I came from the Philippines with 4.0.

[Esther]

That doesn't sound like what they have to do for smart kids.

[Jenna]

It really sucked because I went from being a 4.0 student to, like, 0.4. Like, complete crash and burn from when I first got there. I was taking AP classes my 9th, 9th grade to my senior year. Just being, like, constantly called, she's not in the classroom. She's not. Because I. Shit. Just a really bad shape. And they were like, we know her potential. Let's just help her out. And so they did.

[Esther]

Was Roger your stepdad already?

[Jenna]

No, he wasn't really. He was my. He was just my high school history teacher.

[Esther]

He's trying to get to your mom.

[Jenna]

It's probably just trying to get to my mom.

[Kalila]

Get to you and that booty, but not your booty.

[Jenna]

Your mom, but so sweet, right, that these, like, they banded together to.

[Esther]

That's crazy.

[Kalila]

Like, that is teachers, they need to be paid more.

[Jenna]

Yes. And by the way, they already knew that I had a full ride at UNLV pending that I was offered a full ride. And they were like, she's gonna lose this full ride if we don't. If she doesn't graduate. So it's like, let's just help her out and, like, send her on her merry way.

[Kalila]

And they did.

[Jenna]

It's so sweet.

[Esther]

Wow.

[Ali McCosky]

When I was in eighth grade, I had, like, I don't know, like, the main Class. I don't know what class it is. Like, English, social studies, whatever. And so I'm like, in this class, I'm also, like, annoying as hell always. And we have, like, a student teacher in the class, like, you know, one of these, like, young guys who's, like, learning. And so, like, every day he's in class, I just, like, keep going up to him. He's sitting in the back, and I'm like, do you want to see me dance? I'm gonna, you know, I'm like, I'll sing a song for you. And, like, during the whole class, I just, like, keep going up to him and, like, entertain them.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Ali McCosky]

And so I'm just, like, putting on this whole show every class without realizing.

[Kalila]

That it's inappropriate or did you.

[Ali McCosky]

I'm, like, sitting in the back alone, like, let me entertain. And then, like, after a full week, I get called into the office, and I get to the office, and I see my mom and my dad, who are divorced, and I see the counselor, and I see my teacher. And then I see the student teacher.

[Kalila]

And you're like.

[Ali McCosky]

And I'm like, yeah. Yeah, pretty much. And it turns out he was actually in class observing me to see if I had add.

[Esther]

And you gave him the full show?

[Ali McCosky]

I gave him the full show. And I'm like, I wish I had known that, because I think all I really wanted was attention, and I got it.

[Esther]

So. Did he diagnose you?

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, fully. Yeah. And then I was on vyvans for, like, 12 years after.

[Esther]

Oh, my God.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Yeah. I got diagnosed in, like, third grade and then again in college. And I tried, like, three different medications, but for, like, two days each. And, yeah, they were all. They just made me, like, this.

[Esther]

Did the Vyvanse. What did it do to you?

[Ali McCosky]

Just made me, like, super focused.

[Esther]

Was it good or not good?

[Ali McCosky]

I don't know. I think the doctor who gave it, like, my pediatrician. That's the kid doctor.

[Jenna]

Right.

[Ali McCosky]

My pediatrician, like, kept raising my. The do the dosage. And so by the end, I was on, like, the most you could be on, which I think was, like, super unnecessary. And because I was on it, like, long term, I think it definitely, like, dulled my personality. And I think. I don't know, I'm. I think as a kid, it's like, just be crazy. And, like, is school really the most important thing? Like, I don't know. Yeah, I wish I wasn't on it. And I know that my mom, like, really didn't want me to be on Medication. So she was bummed, but you know, whatever. But it was helpful and it was fun to use for like, for funsies.

[Kalila]

For funsies.

[Jenna]

I was on an antipsychotic called Zyprexa my senior year during the crash and burn. I got so fat one time I raged out at my mom because she brought home instead of the triple entree from Panda Express, she brought back just two entree with a chow mein and the rice. And I flipped it, I like flipped it up in the air because I was like, how dare you? You know, I was hung cuz I was so hungry on this antipsychotic.

[Ali McCosky]

Damn. So cruel.

[Jenna]

How was it? I know I wasn't, I wasn't on it very long cuz I was like, what is happening? I was like, well.

[Ali McCosky]

And that's how I know that I like love eating is that everyone was like, okay, like this medication might make you like not want to eat, but you just got to do it. And then it was like I had zero. I was just like powered through. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like.

[Jenna]

Because some people really do eat for calories and other, other people like me eat for flavor.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Jenna]

People are like, I'm full. I'm like, who cares?

[Esther]

Keep going.

[Kalila]

Does it taste good?

[Esther]

Keep going. Yeah, well, they say there's people that eat through Ozempic too.

[Ali McCosky]

That's me. That's my dad. My dad's on Ozempic and he, he's. He plateaued and now he's just like. We went to Disneyland the other day and he was just eating his way through Disney.

[Jenna]

Where did he get.

[Ali McCosky]

Well, I just, I had the chili sourdough bowl. They have chili and Mac and cheese, sourdough bowl.

[Kalila]

Also panera.

[Ali McCosky]

It was delicious. And then. Right. They do. Right by the Matterhorn. This is you guys finding out I'm a Disney adult. Right by the Matterhorn. They have like a garlic cheesy toast with a br inside and it's so good.

[Esther]

May I ask why you and your dad were at Disneyland?

[Ali McCosky]

It wasn't just the two of us. It was me, my dad, my mom, my sisters, and my, my nieces.

[Kalila]

And all of you love Disneyland World?

[Ali McCosky]

No. My sister used to work at Disneyland and then I would go all the time in high school because I would get in for free since she worked there. And then I just go like, I don't know, maybe like, I don't know, at least like twice a year.

[Esther]

The last time that we saw you, I feel like you were saying that you were maybe craving like going To New York for, like, several months or something.

[Ali McCosky]

Well, I'm going to New York York next week, but just for, like, ten days.

[Esther]

Okay.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, but I would love to just go to New York.

[Esther]

I was just curious if that was in the works or if you're over that.

[Ali McCosky]

No, I think I just like telling people that I'm gonna move there like that.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

Guys, I got into my first car accident.

[Ali McCosky]

Your first?

[Kalila]

Nine days ago.

[Ali McCosky]

Wow.

[Jenna]

She's fine. Her first. She totaled her car, but she's okay.

[Kalila]

I also realized this is probably from the. I was having so much neck pain, shoulder pain, back pain, everything. Only on the right side. Headaches. Only on the right side. But the funny part of the accident is that, like, I obviously don't know how these things work. This woman hits me.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah. Wait, set the. Set the scene.

[Kalila]

Set the scene.

[Jenna]

It's right by your old neighborhood, too, huh? Because I saw the map because I.

[Kalila]

Was going to pick up two deodorants. That someone.

[Esther]

They went back to your old.

[Kalila]

Yeah, I went back to my old place. Like, there's a glitch in the system who ordered. So I was going to pick up the two deodorants. Cause I go, I can't lose that money. Lost my whole car. And so I'm on Barham, which, you know, people be zooming.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

And I go into a lane to turn. And like, halfway through the lane, this lady just comes into the lane, like, this, starts pushing me into oncoming traffic and is just looking at me like this. And I'm going, what the fuck?

[Ali McCosky]

Stop.

[Kalila]

And just, like, keeps moving me slowly. And then once she stops, I go, like, we need to go. You need to move around. You need to make it. Let's go. So I'm like, directing traffic, not knowing that, like, you're supposed to take a picture of, like, the accident as it happens. I'm like, okay, let's get over here. I get out of my. My car. My car's not parked safely. I make sure that hers is. And I get out. I'm, like, trembling, and I'm just like. Are you okay? Are you okay, ma'?

[Ali McCosky]

Am?

[Kalila]

Are you okay? She's like, yeah, I'm okay. I'm just a little shaken up. I don't know what to do.

[Esther]

Start fixing the cars.

[Kalila]

Basically, I go to see, like, is her mirror okay? Can she move it? Can she, like, focused on her then? Not only that, I call AAA to order myself a toe. And I order her a toe. And, like, it's not a thing where, like, you can Just order someone else a toe. You have to pay for it because you're not gonna be there. And I was like, I just, I just really.

[Ali McCosky]

I can't have this lady on the side of the road because it's like, really? She could get hit.

[Jenna]

Well, she elderly.

[Kalila]

She was like almost 80.

[Ali McCosky]

Oh my God.

[Jenna]

Okay, I understand 80. Everything that you do, you did. I understand.

[Esther]

Yeah, that's.

[Kalila]

I would have done it if she was 13. Like, I just felt so bad and I just kept like holding her hand and she was fine. I was the one who was in pain. She was like, totally fine. Chilling. And I'm like, here's my number. If you need anything, I call aaa, I connect them with her and I'm like, they're gonna come for a tow for you. They're can also. They can drive you to where you need to go. I can call you an Uber. And she's like. Cuz she didn't know how to do.

[Esther]

All of that stuff. Can I hire you to be my assistant caregiver?

[Kalila]

Then she sends me this text like this, this long. And she's like, if this had to have happened with anyone, I'm happy that it happened with you. Oh my God.

[Ali McCosky]

Wow.

[Esther]

A lifelong thing.

[Kalila]

She was like, yeah. She was like, maybe we'll go to lunch. Lunch. And I was like, that would be amazing. And my mom was like, stop talking to her.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, stop talking to her now.

[Jenna]

Get your insurance fixed.

[Kalila]

You need to talk to your insurance. And then I was like, I didn't want. I didn't understand that like, this is still injury. Right. I was like, well, if I'm not dead and I'm not a bone isn't broken. I just not good at handling accidents and basically was just like, what can I do to help you, ma'?

[Ali McCosky]

Am?

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Ended up covering you.

[Kalila]

Yeah, her insurance covered it, but totally.

[Esther]

Because then like she kind of said. Tried to say that it was like both of your guys's fault, but it's like her car literally hit you. Yeah.

[Kalila]

She tried to say like, oh, we maybe went into the lane at the same time. Right? And I go, I just didn't say anything. I'm like, oh, okay. That's not what happened. And even when her insurance called me, they were like, yeah, that wouldn't be possible because you guys were clearly next to each other. Like, she like baby T boned me.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

And they're like, if you guys went into the lane at the same time time, it would have been like that.

[Esther]

Fact that you've never had a Car accident is really.

[Ali McCosky]

That's so impressive.

[Esther]

I've had 400, I got to say.

[Jenna]

Probably.

[Ali McCosky]

Have you had any totals?

[Esther]

No totals. It's mostly just me rear ending people.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay.

[Esther]

That's actually all that it ever is.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay.

[Kalila]

My car got totaled, but it was a 15 year old car.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

So it's like, it's kind of.

[Ali McCosky]

Sometimes it's like it's a good thing.

[Kalila]

Oh, no. I was going to drive it for five more years, but I was still like, people are like, oh, you're gonna get that cash for this. I'm like, no, it had 181, 000 miles. Yeah. It changes everything now. Like I drive and I go, oh, I know why people drive like how they drive like, you know how I drive. I drive like I'm not ever getting into an accident, but I'm a good driver.

[Ali McCosky]

Anytime I've totaled my car, it's never changed.

[Esther]

You've told your car multiple times how?

[Kalila]

Yeah, tell me about your.

[Ali McCosky]

Twice in the span of a month. Yeah. Well, it was a crazy time in my life.

[Kalila]

Set the scene.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay, so let's say I'm 19 years old.

[Jenna]

Vyvanse. No, Vyvanse.

[Ali McCosky]

Definitely Vyvanse. And so just like for back. No, I don't need back story. I bought a brand new car. Brand new.

[Jenna]

Brand new.

[Ali McCosky]

2018 Honda Fit. And I was fired up about this damn car. A sexy black Honda Fit Baller. Four days after I get this brand new car. I think I'm working at the Comedy Store at the time. I meet some Australians and that'll do it. And Australians, they have cocaine and they have accents and they have mustaches and they have a hostel they're staying at. And I go, well, I'll meet you at the hostel, boys. And so I'm like furiously after work, like driving around. I'm going to the Banana Bungalow on Fairfax. And so I'm driving up, I see a parking spot right in front of the Banana Bungalow. And I'm like, oh my God, it's a sign from God. Let me just flip this U turn. I don't quite have the depth perception of this car figured out yet because it's four days old, you know, it's brand new. And so I see a car coming, but I'm like, they're way further behind. I have time to flip around and get this parking spot. And as I flip, this car fully hits me. Not their fault, fully mine. And so I have this like, my car spins out in the middle of Fairfax The. The airbags all go off and everything. I just hear, like, loud ringing in my ears. It is kind of fun because you're, like, such a star, you know, like, all the cars are like. People are walking up, and you're kind of like, I'm okay, you know? And then the paramedics came, and I'm like, I have this giant welt on my forehead. And they're like, okay, like, you should call someone to pick you up. And I'm like, but I'm meeting these Australian guys. I don't want to get picked up. I'm exactly where I need to be in this moment. Moment. And so I sent my sister a photo. I'm like, hey, just got in an accident, but all good. No need to worry. And she's like, no, I'm picking you up. And I'm like, don't worry about it.

[Kalila]

Did you have a concussion?

[Ali McCosky]

Did they? I don't know.

[Kalila]

Did they even check?

[Ali McCosky]

I don't think I went to the hospital or anything. I was really determined. They checked me, and I was like, fine.

[Jenna]

Yeah. 19 excited. 19 year old. They don't have.

[Esther]

That's.

[Ali McCosky]

So you were just pushing through. And so then I ultimately decided that the welt was too big and embarrassing to meet up with the guys, and so I just, like, ubered home, and it turned out that I was at the wrong banana bungalow. There was another location. So potentially, if I knew about the other location, I would have been fine. So then my car's totaled. I get all of the money back since it was brand new. So I bought the same car, but this time I bought it in white because I was like, if my car is white, then everyone will be able to see it, even at night.

[Esther]

You know, white cars are safer.

[Jenna]

Yeah, you laugh, but they are wi fi. They are.

[Ali McCosky]

And so then 28 days later, I did end up drink and drive, and I did crash my car in the center divider of the freeway. And luckily, no one was injured.

[Kalila]

Oh, my God.

[Ali McCosky]

But once again, my car was totaled, and.

[Kalila]

And then you got a dui.

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[Kalila]

Oh, no. Wow.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay. No. I got really lucky. My sisters picked me up, and they're like, you reek of alcohol. And for whatever reason, like, I would patrol. Let me go. And so then I had no car, and I was like, I'm gonna move to London. I don't need a car there, and I can drink.

[Kalila]

Did you move to London?

[Ali McCosky]

No. I didn't realize you have to get a visa in order to move. And so I just ended up going on Like a three week little Euro trip.

[Kalila]

It was just one of those things where you wanted to say that you were moving, like the New York thing.

[Ali McCosky]

No, I was. I was really planning on moving. I, like, found an apartment, like a little flat in Wimbledon. I didn't even know where that was. I just heard of it because of 10 this. And I was like, that seems legit.

[Jenna]

A grand slam.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah. And then, like, right before my trip, my friend was like, yeah, you can just like, move somewhere. I'm like, no, I'll get a visa. Once I'm there, I'll be a bartender. And she's like, they don't need American bartenders. There's not a need for that.

[Esther]

I'm on your side. I think you should have just gone and let it get figured out.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I am so the opposite of you. How you reacted to your accident when you just wanted to go see the Australian. Like, you're just, like, denying all this help. Like, I have such a damsel in distress complex that if there's ever an instance where like, a paramedic is paying attention to me, like, I am fully just. I just embrace the situation. I could never run from that.

[Jenna]

Can I get. You want to get the C collar? Just.

[Ali McCosky]

You don't need it.

[Esther]

Yeah, whiplash.

[Kalila]

I was so paranoid that I had a concussion from whiplash. Like, at first I thought, okay, I didn't hit my head, so I'm fine.

[Jenna]

But the whiplash usually happens. Like, that sensation happens days after. Like, in the moment your adrenaline's pumping too much, you don't feel much.

[Kalila]

I didn't feel much. But then my neck did start hurting, like 20 minutes later. But it was the headaches that had me worried because it was so insane. Just right side into my jaw.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

And I started being so paranoid, but I was like, oh, I didn't hit my head. And then Argo is like, well, you can still have a concussion. My partner was like, you can still have a concussion from whiplash.

[Jenna]

Yeah, you can.

[Kalila]

And I was like, like. And then when the paramedics. Yeah, when the paramedics came to check me out, I had my sunglasses on. They didn't look at my eyes or nothing. I dated and I once.

[Esther]

She was a paramedic. Let me tell you, they don't know what they're doing.

[Jenna]

My sisters beef with fire all the time. She's a nurse. Nurses. And they come across the fire department. There's tension.

[Kalila]

The fire department came and the guy is just. And I'm like going, like. I feel like I'm going to pass out, probably because I'm so. And I'm also feeling really nauseous, which I don't know if it's from the adrenaline or. Did I have a concussion?

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

And I'm like, just, like, leaning over on the side of Barham, which, by the way, people saw me, who then, like, wrote on my Instagram like, that was you on Barham. So I'm like, sobbing, just, like, bending over. He doesn't look at anything. He basically. He goes like this. Yeah, just take some Advil. You'll be all right.

[Esther]

Yeah.

[Kalila]

And I'm like, what? You didn't do nothing.

[Ali McCosky]

Oh.

[Jenna]

My first concussion was a horror story. It was a boating accident.

[Esther]

Oh, lucky.

[Jenna]

We were in Lake Mead as an ex boyfriend, and we were being dragged on a tube by a drunk driving. A drunk driver on a boat. He's since passed away. I heard. The driver or your partner from a boating accident?

[Ali McCosky]

Oh, my God.

[Jenna]

No, the guy. Not my partner.

[Kalila]

The.

[Jenna]

The guy who was driving the boat. But he whipped us unnecessarily without warning because he thought it was funny. He was going way past. So I launched up in the air and I collided head to head with my boyfriend at that time. And I cannot account for six hours after that, but we were camping. So instead of him taking me into the city, he was too drunk, too. So he was like, she'll be fine. So apparently I was hunched over in a seated position on, like, a camping chair for, like, six hours, just, like, knocked out. And he was, like, out with his friends. That was my first concussion.

[Esther]

And the guy who whipped you around died later from a boating accident?

[Jenna]

I. I think so. Yeah.

[Esther]

Yeah, that. I think so, too.

[Jenna]

Yeah.

[Esther]

I hate when you get a man behind a wheel and he thinks he's being, like, showing off. That happened once. I got in the car with my sister and her boyfriend of some guy that was trying to. Or whatever, and he was speeding. And I was like, probably 10. I started crying. I was like, I have asthma.

[Kalila]

You can't go this fast. I can't catch my breath.

[Esther]

I have to go home now. I have asthma.

[Kalila]

The air is going too fast. I can't catch it.

[Jenna]

Yeah. And I had, like, intense, intense migraines for two weeks every day after that. So that's my first concussion. That's why I have the, you know, micro intensities of my white matter in my brain. He's like, it's all on your right side.

[Esther]

I'm like, I know, I know.

[Jenna]

And then my second concussion is from the same Guy, I didn't learn my lesson. Yeah, he, like, tackled me and then I, I. He like, swept me and like, double legged and then I smacked my head backwards.

[Esther]

Horseplay.

[Jenna]

I woke up eating cheesecake. That's like, my only memory.

[Kalila]

That's nice.

[Jenna]

Like, I was knocked out. I had no memory for like three hours. And I woke up and I was like, I'm eating cheesecake. Where am I?

[Esther]

Tattoo it on me. Write it on my gravestone. No horseplay.

[Jenna]

No horseplay.

[Ali McCosky]

No.

[Esther]

No horseplay.

[Kalila]

You. Yeah, you don't like horseplay.

[Esther]

Do not touch me. Do not.

[Kalila]

I still fuck around with some horseplay, but, like, yeah, I'll watch you do.

[Esther]

Horseplay, but I will not be involved.

[Jenna]

Yeah, rough housing is a. Has its consequences.

[Kalila]

And I, like, still try and have competitions, like whoever. Whoever gets out of the bed first wins. And we're like, full on.

[Jenna]

You don't, like, pull muscles?

[Kalila]

No, my legs are so strong. I can, like.

[Esther]

I have to get out of bed so slow.

[Kalila]

I do get out of bed really slowly now. Ever since, like, everything.

[Esther]

Oh, yeah. Wait. I had a sleepover with her when we. When everyone went to Palm Springs from the fire. She stayed with me. I didn't know this because she won't have sleepovers with me anymore.

[Ali McCosky]

I want more sleepover.

[Esther]

Let's do it.

[Ali McCosky]

Can I have a sleepover?

[Esther]

Yes.

[Kalila]

I love.

[Ali McCosky]

I want my friends to have sleepover. I know, it's so fun. I want to watch movies. I want to build a fort.

[Esther]

I want to stay up all night.

[Kalila]

I want to stay up all night.

[Jenna]

I have all the fort stuff.

[Ali McCosky]

Let's do.

[Jenna]

Just bought it for my son. The whole. The extra pillow.

[Esther]

Send me a link because I need that.

[Kalila]

Yeah, we're not staying up all night. That's why I don't be having sleepovers.

[Ali McCosky]

Well, that's a nice thing about Anyone can fall asleep anytime.

[Jenna]

There are no rules.

[Kalila]

We can fall asleep, but if someone's making noise, I can't sleep.

[Jenna]

See, she needs her sound machine. Yeah, she's.

[Esther]

She needs her own room. Okay, So I didn't know this about her, but legitimately, when she wakes up in the morning, oh, she literally is, like, five points uglier.

[Kalila]

I do not think that's what you're gonna say.

[Esther]

Like, I've never seen it like that. Like, I don't know anyone like that where their face is actually just really scary. It's bad.

[Kalila]

I get, like, real. My lips get three times bigger. My nose gets three times bigger. Like, I'm like, literally bad.

[Ali McCosky]

Do you have A baby?

[Kalila]

No.

[Ali McCosky]

You're going to be one of those people where when you get pregnant you're.

[Kalila]

Like, face like spreads.

[Esther]

Yeah, it spreads.

[Jenna]

Yeah, that's a real thing.

[Kalila]

A lot of like times when women have boys their nose, it's like, yeah.

[Esther]

And now I believe that's what I looked like when they, when people say that they wake up ugly. Like, I'll have respect for that. Now that's real.

[Jenna]

I don't look great in the morning either. I look swollen and really fudge up because I have POTS and my blood pressure is low so the blood doesn't reach my head.

[Kalila]

Is that why? Because I don't have pots, but I have really low blood pressure.

[Ali McCosky]

Maybe I have to do a handstand in the morning.

[Jenna]

You have to slap your face a couple times.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay.

[Kalila]

What I thought you were going to say in the morning was not that, but it's great that you did. I thought you. I was like, oh, I know what you're to going to say.

[Esther]

What?

[Kalila]

That in the morning I like, I can't talk to people. You're like, not awake. It takes really weird. Takes me a very, very long time.

[Jenna]

The blood hasn't traveled up yet. So much drama in our lives.

[Esther]

I know. I'm really nervous about the blowback.

[Kalila]

I'm just trying to.

[Jenna]

I don't like that word. Blowback is so sexual. What?

[Kalila]

Yeah, nasty. You said blowback.

[Esther]

You also hate that I say logs because we buy these chicken for poo poo. We say chicken sausage.

[Kalila]

Instead of saying chicken sausage or chicken links, she go, yeah. Do you get the logs? Yeah, I want the log. Don't go the log, bro.

[Esther]

I never thought about links.

[Kalila]

Well, I told you links. So who's log are you guys weird about?

[Ali McCosky]

Like poop stuff? Like no talking about poop stuff?

[Kalila]

No.

[Esther]

Depends who.

[Kalila]

I'm not weird about it. Neither is Kyla.

[Esther]

Esther's just weird when I choose to be.

[Kalila]

Are you weird about poop stuff? No, I was just curious. Yeah, I feel like we're similar.

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah. Chicken logs is really your best friend.

[Esther]

You guys are not similar and you can't be friends.

[Kalila]

Esther was the first one to be.

[Ali McCosky]

Like, we should hang out and then take a photo, post it on Instagram and never mention it to Esther.

[Jenna]

Like tonight, that stuff.

[Ali McCosky]

I'm territorial. Territorial about my friendships. And I'm like, is it because I'm actually gay or am I just territorial about friendships? I don't know.

[Kalila]

I mean it could be either, but I don't think it would be because of your gay.

[Ali McCosky]

Okay.

[Esther]

No, I support this.

[Kalila]

I just, I don't like seeing my.

[Ali McCosky]

Friends hang out with other people.

[Jenna]

It really, I, I like watching my friends become friends.

[Ali McCosky]

No, it's okay if they're friends, but I need to know everything. Everything. And don't hang out without me.

[Jenna]

I see what you're saying.

[Ali McCosky]

And if we're all hanging out together and I feel like you guys are really getting along more than me, then.

[Esther]

Sometimes it's so fun when your friends are friends because then they can hang out and then you can be like, okay, tell me everything that happened.

[Kalila]

I don't even want to know. Like when they try and tell me everything that happens, I'm like, I don't care. I wasn't there.

[Esther]

Yeah, I know you don't care.

[Kalila]

I love making all my friends friends.

[Jenna]

Jenna is better friends now with all the friends that introduced her to or. I'm like, oh, you guys are going on.

[Ali McCosky]

How do you guys know each other?

[Esther]

Me, Whoa.

[Kalila]

Everyone knows everyone because of Esther, because we were friends in college.

[Jenna]

But I'm telling you, Jenna is friends with every single one of like my close, close friends.

[Esther]

And she has too many friends.

[Kalila]

I have too many friends. I'll tell you the only time I haven't.

[Esther]

We're signing off. Signing off and white Jenna to finish with us.

[Ali McCosky]

Us.

[Esther]

Come to the Patreon patreon.com TrashTuesday podcast or the link below. We'll see you guys there. And wait. Ali, any stand up tour dates?

[Ali McCosky]

Yeah, so many are being added. So go to my website, Ali McCosky.com and find out where I'll be. I have a bunch of random ass cities all over the random ass United States. So please come see me on the road.

[Esther]

Go see her. She's so funny. There's no one like her. Kyla, Jenna, what's going on?

[Jenna]

Right, you guys, EB Ocean Club. We've restocked on the shampoo and conditioning. They've been out for a while. We finally, finally. I know, I know. Even for myself, I'm like, thank God. Go to eboceanclub.com or on Instagram @ebOceanClub.

[Kalila]

By tiajenna.com Please get my deodorant. My deodorant.

[Esther]

Will you put some on me?

[Kalila]

Sure. I'm willing to work for money. So I need to buy a new car. Just buy my deodorant. Okay. BuyTagenda.com all natural deodorant.

[Jenna]

You have to smell it. It's smell, smell.

[Kalila]

This is how you put it on. You just put on a little piece.

[Esther]

Please, please.

[Ali McCosky]

I need it. I didn't put deodorant today.

[Esther]

Do us.

[Kalila]

You go like this. Can you expose your armpit?

[Esther]

All right, we'll see you guys on the Patreon. We love you. Bye, Harry.

[Ali McCosky]

I didn't even know. Harry, girl.

[Kalila]

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[Jenna]

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[Kalila]

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