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Kalila
These women are so sloppy. No bras.
Jenna
Wait, please. Keep going.
Kalila
These women are so sloppy. No bras nor makeup. A hole in the crotch of Kalila's pants. I kind of like it, though. In a world where women are always expected to look beautiful and dolled up, that leave women be free. It's refreshing, liberating, empowering. Wait.
Jenna
Hold on.
Esther
They just turned around.
Kalila
He turned around. I think this is a compliment.
Jenna
Okay, Kalila, we have a huge announcement to make.
Kalila
I can't believe I said yes to this.
Jenna
I can't believe you did either. I texted you at the exact right time. It is booked. It is on. It is happening.
Kalila
I can't back out, you guys. We're doing a live show.
Jenna
Tickets are on sale. Like, it's not. It's. It is too late to change your mind.
Kalila
It's too late to back out. Yeah, I'm doing this.
Jenna
Los Angeles. We are doing our first live show in so many years, and I have been foaming at the mouth. We are so excited. I mean, Kalila's not, but she always acts that way, and then it ends up being so fun.
Kalila
But listen, it's gonna be my first night out ever since having a baby.
Esther
You're right.
Jenna
That is so.
Kalila
Because, you know, it's, like, past his bedtime. I put him to sleep. So, you guys, I'm sacrificing my motherhood duties to be there with you guys.
Jenna
I'm not. I'm good.
Kalila
She'll be very pregnant.
Esther
Oh, no. Oh, my God.
Jenna
It'd be so big.
Kalila
You're gonna be, like, four weeks away from birth.
Jenna
So, you guys, Wednesday, January 28th, at the Comedy Store in the main room. This is going to be so come out. This is just gonna be really special.
Kalila
It's just gonna be an easy, silly time. I'm gonna love seeing everybody. Jenna will be there. Jules will be there.
Jenna
Well, we have a bunch of regulars booked and ready to go.
Esther
Sluggies galore.
Jenna
I'm just really excited, and I want this to go well so that we can do it more often. And I think it's going to.
Esther
So get tickets.
Jenna
Get your tickets. It's gonna sell out, and we'll see you there in January. A fun little post holiday. Like, something to look forward to. Post holiday, pre birth, you guys, this Friday at the Comedy Store in Los Angeles, I am doing a show in the Belly room. I'm so excited. This is my last show of the year, and you can get tickets at the link below.
Kalila
These make for perfect gifts.
Jenna
Oh, perfect.
Kalila
I got one for Jules. My sister, my other sister, my mom last Christmas, and it was such a hit.
Jenna
It's so cute. And all the photos that you guys took in those matching pajamas.
Esther
So cute. If someone would like to get them.
Jenna
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Esther
No one likes to be stinky ever. Except for some people. Do you definitely don't want to be stinky over the holidays. And if you like natural deodorant like me and you can't handle scents, you want to get pit stop by Tia Jenna, go to bytiajenna.com that is by T I A jenna dot com. Crack in a tin. Natural deodorant. No toxins.
Lia Sampson
Bye.
Jenna
You guys. Welcome to the new studio.
Kalila
Welcome.
Jenna
Welcome to the new thing. Our team. Give it up for our team. They built this.
Esther
I did nothing.
Jenna
We finally look pretty again. Okay. We've gone through a slump where we were ugliest.
Esther
That was rough, guys.
Jenna
And now we're pretty. We're gorgeous.
Esther
Except I look white.
Jenna
That's what we want.
There's too many brown girls on this show. We need more white women.
Esther
All my melanin is gone.
Lia Sampson
We love a diversity hire. We're happy to have you here.
Esther
I just want to tell everyone that I'm missing my melanin. So if I look white from there down, that's why.
Lia Sampson
Well, you're Mexican in my book.
Esther
Yes.
Jenna
Thank you.
Esther
Thank you.
Lia Sampson
You're welcome.
Jenna
We are so excited to welcome to the show. I guess we've been trying to get. Who is so funny. Her viral standup clips are amazing. You have to see her live if you ever get the chance. She came in from New York because she's so much cooler than us. Lia Sampson.
Lia Sampson
Thank you for thinking that I'm. I am. But also thank you for having me. And wow, what an intro. Wow.
Esther
We're not cool, but we can be.
Kalila
Do we have your inhaler, though?
Lia Sampson
They're coming with this. I'm saying, like, can we, like, will I be able to walk off and.
Jenna
Yeah, okay.
Lia Sampson
I know if we were, like, live in B.C. right now.
Esther
Oh, no.
Kalila
California.
Lia Sampson
Your asthma, everything. My asthma. Okay, well, and you know, it's. It's all science. It's like, if your allergies are messing up, then that exacerbates. Look at me. Vocabulary. It exacerbates your asthma. So it's like. And I always have allergies. So it's like, if I sneeze, I'm coughing. Now I'm coughing. Now I'm wheezing. Now I'm wheezing. I need. You know, so, yeah, I just. And it's like within four seconds, I become like an old Jewish woman. And. And I'm just like, ah. Which is funny because I was on the. Like, that happened. I had allergies and I was sneezing, and I was sent to two Jewish ladies. One was like, mom and daughter. And the mom was. She was like, I got something for you, I swear. And her daughter was like, ma, you can't just offer drugs to, like, random people. She's like, what you need?
Esther
Was it my mom?
Kalila
Wait, my sister? Because that's what she's like a walking pharmacy and she carries her nebulizer.
Lia Sampson
Are they all Jewish?
Kalila
No, she's more Filipino.
Lia Sampson
Filipino?
Kalila
Yeah.
Lia Sampson
Wow.
Jenna
I'm Jewish. She's half Jewish.
Lia Sampson
What's the other half?
Esther
Mexican. You're right.
Lia Sampson
Oh, my God.
Esther
Sorry. 23andMe Indigenous.
Lia Sampson
Sorry. I'm from the South. I was like, oh, she's Mexican.
Esther
I was like, I think you guessed it, because no one ever guessed it. And I was like.
Lia Sampson
Which is. Actually, there's Mexicans here, right?
Esther
Yeah, a lot here. We're in Mexico.
Lia Sampson
It's the Me, literally. But it's the Mexican skateboard. So it's a little. It's a little different.
Jenna
Filipino guy.
Kalila
We got asthma too.
Lia Sampson
Oh, cuz Filipinos are like the Asian black people.
Kalila
Yes. And so we have the eczema. It's.
Lia Sampson
Jews are the black whites. It's like.
Jenna
No, it's.
Lia Sampson
It's all connected. That's why we all. Yes. This is all.
Esther
Okay.
Jenna
Why, when I asked you, are you from, like. You from New York? You, like, were weird and wouldn't say.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, because I'm homeless.
If you want to just get into it.
Esther
All right, we're getting into it.
Lia Sampson
No, it's because I am currently in New. Where am I?
Esther
Actually, you're in Los Angeles right now.
Lia Sampson
Okay, thank you. I went from New York, then I was staying in Austin for a little bit, and now I'm here. And I don't know if I want to. Spoiler alert. Stay here or go back to New York, but most likely I think I'm.
Esther
Going to go back to New York.
Lia Sampson
It seems I'm gonna take my Zyrtec and clear my mind, figure out what I want to do.
Jenna
Do you have all your stuff here?
Lia Sampson
Yes.
Jenna
You traveled here with all your stuff?
Lia Sampson
Yes. I live out of a suitcase.
Jenna
That is so glamorous.
Esther
Yeah. That's amazing.
Lia Sampson
Yes. Like, and also, it works because all my is like, ho. And it's very compact, easy to, very smart. Yes, yes, yes.
Kalila
I would take trips to Vegas with, honestly, a fanny pack.
Esther
Yeah.
Kalila
Everything I needed, including my shoes.
Esther
When we used to go to Vegas, it would be, like, this much of cl. And then I would bring that much of food.
Kalila
Yeah. And then the ivy and all of that.
Esther
This is clothing. It's just, like, little strings.
Lia Sampson
Yeah. Like, honestly, the heaviest thing would be, like, birth control. Like, that would be, like. That's typically the thing I have to check in a TSA or whatever.
Esther
So many pills.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, hopefully not. Hopefully. I remember I'm not nobody, but. But yeah. I have my suitcase. I have a bag. My friend's merch. Alicia. Lonnie, who's a singer. Shout Out. And then I have my crate for my dog where I keep my wigs in. Evan, that my dog. I was gonna bring her, but I was like, I don't know.
Kalila
Oh, you should have.
Lia Sampson
She's the best. Like, I know everyone says that their dog is the best. No, my dog is. I have a black dog. So she's like, to, you know, she's clean, and she clean together, knows when to shut the up, doesn't wait.
Esther
This is so funny. Yeah, it's true. So one of my best friends growing up, Alyssa, she's black. And yesterday she was telling me about. I hope her neighbors don't listen to this, but she was like, jenna, my neighbors have white dogs. And they keep telling me that, like, I should get a dog, but they don't understand that my dog's gonna be a black dog. And so it's gonna listen, and it's gonna be clean.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Esther
It's a real thing.
Lia Sampson
Esther's triggered.
Esther
Esther has the whitest dog. Esther's dog does not. I'm not even gonna get into it because it's very frustrating for me.
Lia Sampson
Esther, See, because you're so sweet, and it's like, I can see it's probably hard for you to be like, get your couch.
Jenna
You know, like, she peed on our new rug for the first time.
Esther
And I was like, for the first time? They just got the rug.
Jenna
I was like, oh, donut. How nine.
Esther
Okay.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, I think it's her time to go.
Jenna
I. I think.
Lia Sampson
Look, I look.
Esther
Thank you.
Lia Sampson
She had a good run. I just think, just, like, to this. To the dome. Just I.
Esther
And then I get there and she listens to me. And Esther's like. I don't know why she listens to you. Because I'm like. Because I tell her, yeah, no. And she feels safe with me. Yeah. Esther goes to pick up her own dust this small.
Lia Sampson
She goes, oh, hell, my dog. Look, I know PETA and whoever is gonna come for me for this don't give a. My little dog. She was like. I got her at three months. I think maybe this was like five months old. She was eating something and I tried to take it from her. And she said. I said, I'm gonna let you have it, okay? And then went back for it and she snapped at me. She stayed outside for three days.
Never did it again. Never did that again.
Esther
Where was it? Was it like, in the cold or was it, like, nice weather?
Lia Sampson
It should have been. But no, I'm nice. I put her in. I put her in the kennel.
Esther
Okay.
Lia Sampson
So she was in the backyard. I let her out here and there, but. And then when she. I finally, like, fully let her out, she, like, creeped down. Was like, yes, a mess. I know that's right. I know that's right.
Esther
Can you please. Esther is. I try and go over there and train her and I tell her, like, okay, now you tell her no. And she goes, I can't do you.
Jenna
Are you disciplining with your dogs?
Kalila
My dogs are special. They're the unadoptables. Remember that? So I had an uphill climb because I rescued the dick biter because no one else would have him. But I was like, I believe in you. And he is. He. He is sequestered. So no new friends. He has. He's sequestered. We don't introduce him to anybody.
Esther
My boyfriend, Julio.
Jenna
Yeah, his name is Julio. Have you guys heard of something called the la? Yes.
Kalila
I can imagine what it is, but.
Jenna
What do you think it is?
Kalila
I think it's the las is probably just a maybe and a later flake, basically.
Jenna
But it's like, people have been talking about this on Tick Tock, where, like, in LA you go for, like a meeting or an audition. You meet someone and they're just like, you're so amazing. We love you so much. We can't wait to work with you. And then you never hear, like, you never hear from them again. They completely ghost you. So it's this idea of, like, to your only in la, to your face, like, it's oh, you're amazing. I want to work with you. Whereas, like, in other cities, people just don't do that for no reason.
Kalila
Does that apply to, like, relationships and just everything in la?
Jenna
I don't know. What do you guys think?
Lia Sampson
I think it's.
Jenna
Oh, no.
Lia Sampson
A man's spirit just attacked me because I'm like. I would say, no, I think it's just men because they do that in New York too.
Jenna
Really?
Lia Sampson
This literally actually happened to me, like, maybe six months ago. I'm thinking, like, if a agent or whoever reaches out to you to work with you, that they're not wasting. Like, they're not wasting their time. They're like, let's do it. My manager reached out to me and I continuously. He was like, oh, my gosh, we love you, we want you. We want to. Da, da, da, da. Let's have dinner. We have dinner. And then nothing. Nothing. I run into him because. Which again, I said, I don't know. I think there is, like, a complex with. Or a correlation where it's like, with dating. Because I've always said, like, you think you gonna get rid of me? You don't see me. You don't see me. This week, I have a commercial coming out during a football game. All my exes got parlays. They don't see my ass. You can't get rid of me. You just can't. And so we run. I run into him and I'm like, oh, hi. And he was like. And I was like, what? Okay, then what? Just like with dating, it's like, then what was the point?
Esther
Just communicate.
Lia Sampson
What was the point?
Kalila
But it's like to go through the trouble of, like, just being so overtly, like, oh, I want you. I want you. Like, for what? That's wasted energy.
Lia Sampson
Exactly. Don't.
Esther
No one needed to do that.
Kalila
No one needs to hear that.
Esther
You didn't have to go out to dinner. You didn't have to spend that energy. You didn't have to think about each other.
Jenna
They could have just never ending in la.
Esther
Like, this is like, was it New York or la? It was New York.
Jenna
It's never ending. It's. Don't you. I mean, I know that you're like. You pretend like you're not in entertainment, but, like, you. You are. Do you ever have that experience?
Kalila
I'm on the kind of. Out of that circle in the way that, like, I'm not wrapped. I don't deal with managers, I don't deal with agents, but I do get it in la. In general has a very, like, flaky vibe, for sure. Like, not. Not la, like, and like Angelenos, but la. The industry of the entertainment industry is just very flaky and very weird.
Jenna
But, you know, I'. The reason is basically, like, people who've been around know that anyone can pop off. So they treat everyone like they might become the next Margot Robbie. Like, just.
Kalila
But that's icky.
Jenna
Totally.
Esther
But then they only, like, stay if the person pops off.
Jenna
Well, they don't even stay. No, it's. It's completely nothing. It's just so that then you'll remember the experience of them as, like, they always liked me. But it's. If they always liked you, then why didn't they? I don't know, but maybe they just didn't have an opportunity for you. I do find this to be, though. I. I saw someone talking about it on Tick Tock. I'm like, this rings so true.
Lia Sampson
Well, I think you made a good point where it's like, it really comes down to they just want to have a story to say. I interacted with this person. I was there with that person.
Kalila
But you know that there's. People talk about when they hear music, they get emotional and they cry. And it's called, like, frizz on or something.
Esther
Every day it's called what?
Kalila
Frizz on. First on is a word where, like, if you hear. You even see, like, kids have it, where they'll hear, like, a musical piece for the first time and then they start to cry. They get, like, overwhelmed and crying.
Esther
I get chills everywhere. All over.
Kalila
Yeah, I think you have it. Well, it turns out that I have the same thing, but for parades. And it didn't occur to me.
Jenna
Oh, my God, the ick.
Kalila
I know, I know.
Esther
Are you saying.
Kalila
I was shocked. Okay. So I just had. I just had a baby. And before this. Before this, like, I don't give a about. Like, I grew up in, like, in Pasadena. Like, you know, the Rose Parade came every year, and it was great. You wave, whatever. Didn't give a fuck about a parade. The other night, I walked out to, like, just a small community parade with my baby. And I saw, like, the marching band and then the. The. The marshal. The grand marshal. And I saw Laura Friedman and her little convertible and the kids just giving it their all. And I just burst out in tears. Yeah, like, cried. I was just like, everyone's trying their best.
Esther
Yeah.
Kalila
And it's so small, and this thing doesn't matter. But it was like. And people were waving and it just, like, overcame me and I started bawling my eyes out. So I have frizz on for parades. That's all I wanted to say about parades.
Jenna
You know that I was the grand marshal in a parade. I know.
Kalila
And I better work, Esther.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, you better work.
Jenna
And then the connection.
Lia Sampson
Talk about it.
Kalila
Wasn't some, like, 115 year old, like, driving you and really nervous?
Jenna
Yeah. But I also was in my first trimester, and so I was so nauseous that I was miserable. And it was, like, not fun at all. What? I'm pregnant and she has a baby.
Esther
Yeah.
Lia Sampson
I'm about to get the. Was it. I'm about to cry. What is it called?
It's girls like you that give me. Oh, my gosh. You're so cute.
Jenna
Thank you.
Lia Sampson
Oh, God. Blessed teen pregnancy. Team pregnancy. My friend invited me to. You know, it's so crazy. We all look, you know, 13, but, you know. Yeah. We're having babies and our friends are having babies and have kids. I went to my friend's kids dance recital. I was bawling. These little girls were giving it with the little pirouettes. I was like, I was losing my mind. But they were terrible. They couldn't. They weren't good.
Esther
So you have it for pirouettes and you have it for parade.
Lia Sampson
But they were good. They were good.
Kalila
I think I have it for, like, effort.
Lia Sampson
Yes.
Kalila
And it's like, even on a small scale, it's like, this isn't some, like, big stage. The marching band was really giving it their all. And I think I was like, oh, my God. Like, you guys are really trying your best, and this is beautiful together.
Esther
People coming together to, like, do something that, like, makes them feel good and makes them feel like they have purpose.
Jenna
I get what you guys are all saying, but.
Esther
But your Lexapro is working.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Esther
Yeah.
Jenna
Parades are just so the wor. I don't understand how everyone isn't on the same page as me that they're like, the worst possible place you could be. It's like you're at the wrong place at the wrong time. It's so crowded. It's so many people. Like, my sister likes parades, and that's how I know, like, we're not really sisters. Like, like what you like parades? Like, it's just so. It's so inconvenient.
Lia Sampson
It's probably hard away enough. I feel like not in the. The. But I. No, I'm kind of on. I'm with you. To be honest, I think they're kind of.
Esther
There's Only two parades. I like if I was a parade.
Kalila
Yeah.
Lia Sampson
With my grandkids, and you just get.
Kalila
A chair and all you have to do is wave.
Lia Sampson
Right. This is beautiful. Because I'm gonna die soon. I wanna. Then, sure.
Kalila
But can someone wheel me to the front?
Lia Sampson
No. Literally. But I kind of feel what you're.
Jenna
Like, aren't you bored at a parade?
Lia Sampson
Yes.
Kalila
Yes, you are.
Esther
No, you get into the parade.
Kalila
Okay, Jenna, I have frizz on for parades, and I'm telling you, they're boring.
Esther
No, the gay pride parade in Chicago and the Puerto Rican Day par.
Kalila
Gay.
Jenna
Party.
Esther
That's. Okay. Well, those are the only two parades I'm going to.
Lia Sampson
That's.
Kalila
Yeah, like, what other.
Esther
I'm not going to other parades where they're just being the grand marshal.
Lia Sampson
Also, sorry, can we talk about including the, like, connecting to the parades? I'm sorry. Trail of lights.
I've tried, you know, like, every year they do the Christmas. Like, oh, you do the trail and you see the lights and you see Mickey Mouse lit up.
Jenna
And I've never done that. But I will say now that I have a kid, I'm like, that. I would do that for your kid.
Lia Sampson
Sure. But when you're by yourself on a date from Tinder. Oh, it's like, honestly, I wasn't going to, but we should. Yeah, we should as fuck. I don't really. Like, we're going through the lights. We're going through the trail. I went on the trail lights with this guy one time. Nose is running. I was like, oh, no, you're pathetic. I'm like, his nose is running. I was like, you're a fucking joke. Like, men that have allergies or sick, I'm like, get. You could never fight in a war.
Esther
No. You're not having kids with that ever.
Kalila
Okay?
Jenna
This is.
Lia Sampson
Someone doesn't have a deformity.
Jenna
Can I tell you, this is so real.
Kalila
This is so up. Because I have a, like, continually leaky nose. But. And. But if I see.
Esther
I know exactly.
Jenna
Thank you. You can leak anywhere you want.
Esther
But if I.
Kalila
You're so right. If I see even, like, a shine, like a suggestion of snot in a man's face, it's such an ick for me. Meanwhile, I'm, like, dripping.
Esther
Yeah, you do. But you're fine for me and you're.
Lia Sampson
A woman, and that's okay for you before you're a man to be like.
Esther
Yeah, what? Or if they get stuffed up and they do this thing, like, oh, yeah. I just. What?
Lia Sampson
First of all, this is how terrorists are created. Because what we're not going to do is that. No.
Esther
And they act like babies when my dad is sick. Disgusting.
Kalila
Disgusting.
Esther
My dad swam here, okay? He put it down for his whole family. He has. And then he gets sick, and he's like, I be. I just.
Your mom is coming in to give me. I'm like, ew. You cannot support the family. Like, a lot of ways I don't care about.
Lia Sampson
I used to date Mexicans.
Jenna
I don't understand this about my husband. Like, he will be on day five of COVID and it's like, we all. We think you have Covid. He's like, I'm fine. I have nothing. You're so paranoid. Like, he doesn't register that he's sick. I'm like, I think he's just miserable all the time.
Kalila
I think. I think it's this. I think he knows, including my partner, that will be mad that they have Covid.
Jenna
Yeah, that's true.
Kalila
Like, there will be extra punishment.
Esther
Would you get mad if they don't tell you they had Covid?
Lia Sampson
Right? Like, what do you all prefer? Do you prefer. Prefer the guy that's like, I'm a little teapot and I'm sick or, like, neither. I'm not.
Kalila
They're not allowed to be sick, period.
Jenna
Yeah, there's no.
Lia Sampson
Actually, you shouldn't speak if you are in my eye. If you're sick, don't stay home and be quiet.
Jenna
Will you tell us more about your Tinder dates?
Lia Sampson
Which ones? From what? From what era, girl?
Esther
What era was the trail of lights that you had to sit through?
Lia Sampson
Oh, girl, that was. Okay, so this was when Tinder was cool. It was when I was moved to Austin. And so, you know, in Austin, you're just like, I want to meet friends. I potentially want to get kidnapped. So you just, like, go on these apps. And so I did that. I want to date with this man. He was very cute, very handsome. He early on told me that he was a virgin, which, right. I was like, okay, let me know. I can rob you. Like, I love that. And we go on the trailer lights, and it's just like, it's fine. It's the trail of lights again. If you have a kid that totally different, like, got kids and, you know, whatever. But it was just me and him, and, like, he has a suit on. So I'm like, you think you're better than me?
Esther
And it's just like, at the trail of lights with a leaky nose. Between his leaky nose and his Suit. That's why he's a virgin.
Lia Sampson
And right. And then, and then I was like, well, do you want to get, like something to drink? Like a little cocktail or something?
Esther
He goes, he got a juice box.
What?
Lia Sampson
Him sucking on any box would have been fine. He didn't even go that far.
He goes, yeah, let's get a drink. So I'm thinking, like, okay, let's go get drinks. So we go to the stand and I'm like, I'll get like the cider, the. What's it called?
Kalila
Hot toddy.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah. It was literally that. It was like a hot toddy. He goes, I will get a hot chocolate. I said, not only did you call me an alcoholic, but you also.
Chris Hansen's about to come out and arrest me. Hot chocolate.
Jenna
Wait, no, wait.
Esther
I think I understand what happened. He was probably like a 13 year old in a suit trying to look older, and he was sick and he doesn't drink alcohol. He was a child.
Lia Sampson
Three 13 year olds stacked on top of each other in a suit. Like, this is with leukemia. And they're like, this is our last chance to. Yeah. And I can say leukemia because I have a list.
Jenna
But also, it is so rude to order hot chocolate. Like, as a man.
Lia Sampson
As a man, when you just ordered.
Jenna
An alcoholic beverage, it reminds you of my most traumatic experience when my husband asked me what I wanted from Subway and I got a foot long and he came home with a six inch for himself. It's like, you don't respect me. You don't want to be a man at all.
Esther
Like, you could have just gotten a foot long.
Jenna
Just throw the rest away.
Esther
Yeah, yeah.
Lia Sampson
That would have only been acceptable if he had just came out of rehab. Got it. Like, if he had just came out of rehab. Hot chocolate. My hot toddy. Triggering. Right?
Jenna
Because then it's kind of hot because it's like, oh, you have problems. Like, we're so dark.
Lia Sampson
Restraint. Like, yeah, no, it was hot. It was free will for him. And it was very unfortunate.
Esther
That just reminded me of when I tried to date that person who was in a mental institution because I thought it was hot. And then you learn that it's not.
Kalila
That's like the. I think between like 16 to like max 21.
Esther
Okay. Well, I was older because mental illness.
Lia Sampson
With men is very different. Mental illness with women. Like our mental illness low key is like a flex. Like, it's kind of like the fact that, like, there's a statistic where it's like, men kill themselves more than women. Which I'm like, that's some. Because really, we should be doing that. And also they're like, men are more like, they murder more than women. I'm like, are you for real?
Jenna
Right? They don't even have a cycle.
Lia Sampson
They don't have that cycle. They don't have a psyche. They don't have anything.
Kalila
What are you struggling with?
Lia Sampson
What are you struggling with? Especially, can we get into race? Sure. So if I was already into it, child. If I was a white man, which statistically, I googled it, okay? I googled it. And I'm a doctor now. I googled it. White man commitment. White man commit suicide more than anyone else. And they are the most depressed out of all the men. And I'm just like, are you kidding me? If I was a white man, I'd be a fucking menace. I would be like, honestly, like, obviously, I'm for the people, but, like, when I think about it, I'm like, Hitler so bad, you know? Like, no, I would. If I was a white. If I had white. If I was a white man with a pink dick, I would be crazy. I would lose my mind. I would take over. I would just fucking be like, yeah.
Kalila
You'D have options paralysis.
Lia Sampson
Right. So why are you sad, Connor? Like, what the are you sad about? Why are you. What is your life so sad about? I have to take off work to wash my hair and do it to be decently impressed.
Jenna
Like, no, I do think there is something to it, though, where life is a. If life is not that hard out the gate and then it gets hard. That. It's really hard.
Kalila
Difficulty. Your threshold for difficulty is probably lower.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Kalila
If you haven't had to face it your whole life.
Esther
That is really, really true. Because women, right out the gate, it's like they're. You are having to face every single.
Lia Sampson
And I think about women, it's regardless of race. I mean, sure, there's some that have. Again, if I was a white woman, I'd be a menace as well. Too.
Esther
True.
Lia Sampson
But at the end of the day, women just regardless, we come out. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Uncles and cousins don't discriminate. So at a young age.
It was. Keep that in, please. But you know what I'm saying, Like, we. We just all like, you know, men like nothing. They. I mean, I want to say nothing. Of course, some men go through things, but this is not their time.
Esther
Yeah, but comparatively.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, no, yeah, like, okay.
Esther
Like, we go through things too, but we're also women.
Lia Sampson
I'll Never forget this. I had to dump a man because. For multiple reasons. But the biggest one, he calls me, and I'm thinking, like, oh, my gosh. She calls me. He's calling me crying. I'm like, what? Yuck. And he's calling me. I was like, I actually called T Mobile. I was like, why did you let this go through? Like, why did you The.
Esther
And so not screening your calls, obviously.
Lia Sampson
Right. Which is good because I do a lot of. But he calls me crying, and I'm just like, okay. As women, we do. We're like, what's going on? What's the problem? And he's like, you know, I'm just out with my co workers right now, and they're all engineers, and I'm like the engineer secretary. And. And I just want to be where they're at. And like, I'm in college right now for engineering, and it's just so hard.
Esther
Oh, my God. Okay. So it wasn't for anything real, because I don't.
Jenna
Well, that is a call that I would make. Crying, but.
Lia Sampson
Because you could.
Jenna
Okay, I.
Esther
You have shit going on.
Lia Sampson
You have. If you were to call any of, like, me, including that, you know. Yes.
Esther
Okay. I don't have an issue with men crying, though, because I definitely crying about. That's what I'm saying. Because that is. No.
Lia Sampson
Goofy.
Esther
That is goofy.
Lia Sampson
I want to be an engineer. I was like, well, do what their dick and ride the ladder. Like, what do you do? Like, yeah, it's 2025, baby. It ain't gay. It's. It's. It's work.
Kalila
It's work.
Esther
Ambition. Yeah. And don't be talking about, ew, that's gay.
Lia Sampson
Yeah. Don't be homophobic. Like, yeah, bend over and get that promo. That promo.
Jenna
Are you having good co. Cozy sleep?
Kalila
Listen, beyond that, I don't know if you guys have ever actually. Jenna, maybe you haven't tried the skims pajamas, but I want you. They're so perfect. I have the cypress color and the black. What color do you have?
Jenna
I have, like, this really pretty maroon color, and I have cypress. I think it's called oxblood. What I have. But they're so comfortable. The second that I get home, I rip off my street clothes. I put my skim sleep set on, and I just feel the holidays. I feel comfort. Like, I just love it.
Esther
Okay. I want to be a part of this.
Kalila
Okay. I do one extra. I actually use the pants, not as just pajamas. Like, I wear them out.
Esther
That's my vibe.
Kalila
Yeah. They're so versatile. And so soft and so flattering on the form because I'm feeling a little bit like fluffy these days. But when I put that those pajamas on, I feel so just cozy and svelte and beautiful. Beautiful.
Jenna
For me, the holidays it's like, okay, get on my skim sleep set, get my hot tea, get my heat pad. Like that is ultimate cozy experience.
Esther
I also sleep for me is everything like I'm focusing on sleep. Anything that I can do to make my sleep more comfy, make a ritual.
Jenna
Out of it too.
Esther
So if it's like putting on these freshly washed, yummy soft pajamas, you guys.
Jenna
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Kalila
I use cash app Jenna.
Esther
I use Cash app now too. You have to. Ever since you guys told me to.
Kalila
Well, for the foot stuff.
Esther
Yeah. And cause I got that $5 when you like start.
Kalila
But do you know that they have a debit card now that you can design yourself?
Jenna
I've always wanted to do that.
Esther
What would you get on it?
Jenna
A picture of you.
Esther
Amazing.
Kalila
One of the coolest things about Cash app that you can design your own debit card. You can pick from a bunch of different colors and patterns, add Jenna's face to it, add your favorite stamps, doodles, or even you and your friends inside jokes to make it totally unique to you.
Esther
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Kalila
If you've been a fan of the show for a while, you know that we're a little bit broken, unwell, in.
Jenna
Pieces on the floor, needing help and in therapy, but also getting better and like working on it and always on the the path. You and I, we both became moms last year and like that. It's a whole new download of a system that we're learning through and working through. And I am obviously pregnant and I'm really depressed about it, which is really weird.
Kalila
It's tough to be this pregnant through the holidays, isn't it?
Esther
Yeah, the holidays anytime in general.
Jenna
Yeah, the holidays in general. You remember that holiday season like two years ago where I was just so depressed.
Kalila
Oh yeah, I was worried. I think you weren't eating. It was bad.
Jenna
No, I looked so good. But thanks for reminding me how good I looked.
Kalila
The holidays are a time, you know, for traditions, all of these great things. But like, like a lot of times, like family isn't easy for a lot.
Esther
Of people or it can be triggering or you don't know how to manage it and you need help with managing all of it. And while some of us have none of our own families or you have your own, it's like maybe you're not near them or maybe just managing your family or your in laws over the holidays is a lot.
Kalila
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Jenna
Wait, so it is. It's December. It's the holidays. We have a segment that our producers love to play with us that can be very painful. It's called Naughty or nice.
Esther
Oh no.
Jenna
And it means that we're gonna get some naughty or nice comments. And I vote that Jenna gets all naughty comments cause it's the best when it happens to her also.
Esther
Guys, it's almost my birthday, so this is gonna be my birthday episode.
Lia Sampson
Happy birthday. What's the date?
Esther
December 17th.
Jenna
No, this is coming out tomorrow.
Esther
Oh, wait.
Kalila
You got a whole week?
Jenna
Yes, it's my birthday week. Okay. Oh, wait.
Esther
Just hand me the naughty inside there.
Lia Sampson
There's pieces of paper that say either.
Esther
Naughty or nice, so don't look when you grab one.
Jenna
Okay, I'm gonna play honest.
Esther
All right, that's to shove up your.
Jenna
I'm sorry that I did pick nice, but you saw.
Esther
Sorry for the color.
Jenna
I didn't cheat.
Lia Sampson
All right, first nice comment for Esther.
Jenna
Esther is pregnant and sick this episode, and she's never looked hotter. What the Is happening? Okay, you have a problem.
Esther
I agree, actually, with this. Okay, I got nice, but I want naughty.
Jenna
Wait, you have.
Esther
Have a.
Jenna
You have a problem that you think that's hot, but you agree with him.
Kalila
I agree. I think when you are pregnant, you are.
Lia Sampson
I don't know.
Kalila
Your face is prettier. Also, you're ugly with, you know, not pregnant. But.
Jenna
But you are saying that.
Kalila
No, no, there's blood flow. There's blood flowing up because you usually have low blood pressure. Now, you know, it's creeping up to your eyeball, so you look good.
Esther
Okay, you're gonna hate this, but yesterday when I was giving Esther her prenatal massage.
I was like, your body looks so hot. But I knew you weren't gonna want me to tell you that, because look at the face. She's so hot.
Kalila
I agree.
Esther
I'm so hot pregnant.
Jenna
I'm an egg.
Esther
You're not an egg, though, actually. But it's okay if that's how you feel.
Jenna
I get so many comments about how ugly I am, so I really appreciate this comment, and I just want to say thank you, and I will take what I can get, even if it's just that I'm sick and you like that because something weird is going on with you.
Lia Sampson
You.
Jenna
I'll take it.
Esther
I've actually never gotten a nice comment before, so.
Kalila
Oh, nice.
Jenna
All right, Jenna gets nice.
Esther
Are you guys able to find anything nice?
Jenna
They're like, game over.
Esther
And then I should do a naughty one just to.
Jenna
Let's do both.
Esther
Yeah, just because it's, like, I don't get to just have a nice thing.
Kalila
Kind of applies to everyone.
Esther
Nightmare.
Lia Sampson
Blunt rotation about this episode, for sure.
Esther
That's all they had to say. Okay, next.
Kalila
This is nice. You know, I used to give Jenna a lot of. I have to say, though, she's grown on me for being Transparent, which is very courageous. That vulnerability helped me to understand her more. Now I can see why she's so lovable. I truly wish you the best with your health. Just remember you got this and you'll conquer this battle too.
Esther
Happy that I grew on you. Right.
Jenna
That's the best kind of love.
Esther
But also I feel you. Because most of my best friends when I'm younger, from when I was younger, said that they hated me at first.
Lia Sampson
What's that Always goes.
Esther
And so I'm like, okay, I understand it.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Esther
But it's like, did you really hate me or did you love me or.
Kalila
Do they hate them? Something about themselves.
Esther
That I love myself so much. Yeah.
Kalila
That makes people really uncomfortable when you like yourself.
Esther
Yeah. Sandra, I'm wishing you good energy and thank you for wishing me goodness with.
Jenna
My Always cool when someone changes their mind and comes out with it.
Esther
Yeah, I'm into that.
Lia Sampson
Naughty. Oh, this one we found from your.
Kalila
Special comment on your special.
Lia Sampson
My comedy special. Yep.
Kalila
Okay.
Lia Sampson
Where we go? All right.
Esther
That's just the worst thing you could say in general.
Jenna
That's such a funny. Mean.
Esther
Also the fact that it's not about. They had nothing bad to say about your special.
Lia Sampson
That's how good it was.
Jenna
They found. Found this comment section to be so. Such a good form of advertisement. Yes. They. They wanted to put their message.
Lia Sampson
I also think I'm gonna go a little deeper with this. Trump or President. There is this misconception that I love being with white men. Don't know where that came from. I like stealing from them. And I think.
Esther
Because you're a smart woman.
Lia Sampson
Absolutely. Thank you. Yeah. And they're like, oh, she's an ally. Trump for president. Oh.
Get into it, y'.
Esther
All. Yeah. They didn't. They didn't get it.
Lia Sampson
They didn't get it. I don't get it. But thank you. Thank you. Samurai Jack.
Kalila
Was it Samurai Jack?
Jenna
Should we see a nice one?
Lia Sampson
Okay. Yes. For a night.
Jenna
Let me pull a knife just to cleanse the palette.
Lia Sampson
Yeah. Because I'm gonna kill myself if I don't get anything after that comment.
Kalila
Oh, he's a white guy.
Esther
Oh, God. And why did they start by announcing I'm a white.
Lia Sampson
No. Okay, okay, Wait.
Esther
Can I read this one? I'm a white guy. Or at least I think I am. And I date her. I've got 99 problems, but a wig ain't one.
Lia Sampson
Oh, my God.
Kalila
The whitest of the white, too.
Lia Sampson
This is where I up. No, this is on me. I can take respons. You Know, they say women don't take responsibility. I can do it. I up by making one joke about dating a white man years ago. Like, I say, I was dehydrated. I was not thinking well. And the whites just other. Like, yeah, we. I've always been the. The black girl. They're like, look, I've never seen brown areolas, but, like, oh, my gosh. I'll let you. Let me see them. You know, like, I'll give you permission to let me see them. I wanna. You know, it's like, I don't like black women. But you're like, you're cool.
Esther
That's crazy.
Lia Sampson
I'm like, what am I, Harriet Tubman? Like, am I telling you to, like. Like, hurry up and run? Like, I'm just chilling. Like, I'm just.
Esther
Should I show my areolas?
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Esther
My brown areolas. Okay.
Jenna
Yeah.
Lia Sampson
Oh, can we do that?
Esther
Yeah, we can do that. It's.
Kalila
I. I can't because I'm Filipino and they are not.
Esther
I do it every episode. They just blur it out.
Lia Sampson
Okay.
Jenna
Oh, yeah.
Kalila
You have perfect boobs. Oh, my.
Esther
I would just like to say that that was not. Hold on. I was just like to say that it's not the response when I showed my tit.
Jenna
No, she has perfect. Those need to be shown off. Esther, as a person who once maybe had okay ones, and now I'm pregnant. You need to be showing those off.
Esther
You need to be. Those tits. Those areolas and the shape of them.
Kalila
Yeah, really good.
Jenna
Document them.
Esther
Oh, my God. I'm. Did you see?
Lia Sampson
They're in the shape of a star. Like, my areolas the shape of.
Esther
Oh, I noticed that.
Jenna
All right, Kilila.
Esther
Oh, man.
Lia Sampson
It's probably the best podcast, I think.
Kalila
Let's go those.
Esther
Those areas.
Kalila
I'm only gonna pick naughty.
Jenna
She doesn't want to be treated well today. She doesn't feel like she deserves it.
Kalila
Aptly named podcast.
Okay. Chris Fisher.
Jenna
We get these once a week.
Kalila
He's. He's angry because I go in every pot and I'm like, look, like, I don't do white thick. And I think white guys really hate me in these last couple years.
Esther
Yeah. This podcast is, like, known for not. Not like.
Kalila
And I have a niece who comes on and she's like, not only does she. She say she doesn't date white guys, but she's terrified of white penis.
Esther
She specifically only likes brown. Black penis.
Kalila
Yeah. Yeah. So I think that the. I understand the hate. It's okay.
Esther
But they love to watch It. They love to watch it.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Esther
People love to follow and be like you. There's no who could be dumber Jenna. Every single day. And I'm like, bro, no. What's dumb is that you come here every day.
Kalila
I don't think this is bad, actually. This is pink dick with, like, a.
Lia Sampson
Gray scrotum and a, and a.
Kalila
No, gray. Gray is a. Gray is good.
Lia Sampson
Gray is gray. Gray and brown and all the colors. Yeah, yeah.
Kalila
Neapolitan ice cream.
Esther
I'm trying to think if I've ever been with a straight up pink dick.
Jenna
You guys are just reminding me that I have a penis inside me right now.
Kalila
You do? Yeah. But, you know, you grew it yourself.
Esther
Yeah, yeah.
Lia Sampson
Pink. It's your fault talk. Yeah, yeah, that's on you.
Esther
Esther can't handle anything.
You picked the worst people to do podcasts with.
Lia Sampson
You're handling pregnancy. I feel like the way that I would. I just like, yuck.
Kalila
Oh, wait, she can't.
Lia Sampson
Jenna.
Kalila
I'll just.
Jenna
You know what? I, I, I deserve a naughty because I had only a nice. Okay, these three actually are real. Or is this AI? She said that's your right as a person about getting an ice cream sample with no irony. If it's not AI, then I'm in the twilight zone.
Esther
That's really sweet.
Jenna
Is that not a right? Ice cream samples are not a right?
Esther
Yeah, it's a right. Of course. That's how it's been since the beginning.
Jenna
That's my culture.
Esther
Have you ever been to 31 flavors?
Lia Sampson
That's America.
Jenna
Yeah. I don't know what country you're living in, but I stand by my statement. And I'm not AI. I'm the real deal, period.
Esther
Unfortunately.
Jenna
Unfortunately for everyone out there, I stay true. Give me. I'll take another naughty.
Kalila
Ooh, glutton for punishment. Yeah, she's horny.
Jenna
She can't even hear that word. It can't be worse than my acid reflux. Okay. The chick with the glasses is such an airhead. While these girls talk like they are on tranquilizers.
Lia Sampson
That is fair, but you wish we had health insurance.
Jenna
I am very tranquilized some at times. I just don't. I don't bring a lot of life to my projects.
Esther
Well, you're growing life, so you don't need to.
Jenna
But that's, like, a common thing for me, especially when I first started acting, I was like. I would tell directors, like, just so you know, like, my. I. My natural state will be corpse.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Jenna
So, like, let me know, like, tell me More, more. Because I just, I'm a corpse.
Esther
But that's good because you can always add on maybe versus like doing too much and then it's like forced fake out things.
Jenna
I definitely am not one of those too much ers.
Esther
Also, this guy sounds like he's on a tranquilizer.
Jenna
What guy doesn't want a tranquilized woman?
Esther
Yeah, I thought all you guys were into that.
Kalila
Criminal.
Lia Sampson
It kind of seems like. Why are all these girls on tranquilizers, huh?
Yeah, that's kind of.
Kalila
How do you know what women on tranquilizers? You've seen them before, huh?
Esther
Should I do another naughty?
Jenna
Yeah, yeah.
Kalila
Damn 12 year old.
Jenna
Why are we catching strays in her naughty. Damn.
Esther
Interesting. Julio Mendoza who was born in 1988.
Jenna
Bunch of smelly looking middle aged women talking like 12 year olds. America period.
Esther
Wait, wait. Bunch of smelly looking middle aged women talking like 12 year olds, period. America, period.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, well wash us.
Jenna
Are we middle age? What's middle age?
Kalila
I think we're middle aged.
Esther
So we're gonna die when we're 60 something?
Jenna
No, it's like. Okay, so facts a bunch.
Esther
Thank you.
Kalila
A smelly looking one is.
Lia Sampson
So how does it.
Esther
Smelly looking is interesting. Yeah, I'm smelly looking.
Kalila
I feel like maybe.
I didn't want.
Lia Sampson
To say anything but.
You don't stink.
Esther
But I am smelly looking. True.
Kalila
I feel like we all are. Just because it's like I'm not, you know, I'm sweatpants. But it's like I shower two, three times a day, which is.
Esther
I showered before I got here. I have my own deodorant business so I don't really sting.
Jenna
Is your showers, are they really hot?
Kalila
Really hot. Really scorching. Like mother of dragons.
Jenna
And how long are they?
Esther
And I'm Aneman Low iron.
Kalila
Low iron.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, you got that. I passed out in front of a hotel. Five star hotel car. So because I was anemic, I didn't know I had to go to the hospital and had to get iron.
Kalila
Did you get on the. Get in the jacuzzi or something?
Lia Sampson
No, I was just walking. I was literally just existing and I just collapsed. And then I had to get two blood fusions. I was like, who's inside of me?
Jenna
New personality.
Lia Sampson
No, literally. You know they say that when somebody inserts themselves and you, you get pregnant or they, you become them and I, I don't know, I just feel like after that blood transfusion I wanted to like work at a hot topic and.
Kalila
That'S why he dated that one white guy?
Lia Sampson
No, because I needed a ride to work to the mall to work at Zoomies. That's what I did.
Esther
Gadzooks was like the Zoomies of Chicago. And I wanted to work there so badly. Did you guys have Gadzook Zooks? No.
Lia Sampson
No. But you didn't work there because, you know, t. Mom like Esther.
Esther
Really?
Jenna
I didn't have that, and I'm from the same city as you.
Esther
Gadzooks. Did you ever go to the Lincolnwood Town Center?
Jenna
Yeah.
Esther
Okay, well. No, you didn't.
Kalila
Are we just. Did we just everyone just bust out lunch?
Jenna
I could feel my blood sugar situation.
Kalila
Yeah.
Jenna
I don't know what Jenna's problem is.
Esther
I just started feeling famished, like, so hungry.
Kalila
We're anemia.
Esther
Just calling my blood sugar.
Lia Sampson
Literally, I'm like, actually give me. No. No nutrients. I just want to, like, wait.
Jenna
I'm anemic too. You know that?
Kalila
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jenna
I'm the anemic princess here today.
Lia Sampson
Iron Girl.
Jenna
I'm anemic for two comments for Leah.
Lia Sampson
He's like, oh, yeah, we do. We just pretend that this paper fly so badly.
Kalila
They have to say, you know, I.
Esther
I will bring on.
Kalila
Okay, let me read this out for you, Leah.
Lia Sampson
Yes.
Kalila
You need more. The therapy spelled. Spell it T, H, E, R, A, PI, P, I, E. You need more the therapy. You need God type.
Jenna
And you need reading rainbow.
Lia Sampson
You need reading rainbow. And you hooked on phonics. You need a father in your life to teach you how to spell therapy.
Kalila
You need Levar Burton.
Lia Sampson
Like, you need. Who is it? Father Figure Hanson. You need somebody.
Kalila
Sesame Street.
Lia Sampson
Bill Cosby. You need more. Now here's my thing. I. He's not lying. I do need more therapy. I need more therapy.
Esther
But you don't need more therapy.
Lia Sampson
No, I don't know what that. That sounds sexual. I don't need none of that. I have a UTI right now. I can't do that. But you need God. I got God. You know where I'm at and what Programming in programming.
Esther
Thank you for that.
Lia Sampson
Appreciate that.
Esther
I'm gonna go to church and pray for them.
Kalila
We need Esther to bake the therapy. Just like.
Lia Sampson
Is there a nice.
Jenna
I pray 2025 puts her on a bigger platform.
Lia Sampson
Oh, wow, that's sad, because this is 2025, and this is the biggest platform.
Kalila
It's coming to an end.
Lia Sampson
No, just kidding. I've done some things. Check me out. Okay, well, that's sweet. Oh, thank you. Stan from. That sounds like a Missy Elliott lyric.
Esther
It's your for minute of framing.
Lia Sampson
Thank you.
Jenna
Girl.
Esther
Hit.
Lia Sampson
Baby. Your skin tone is showing. Please, can you. You're making me uncomfortable. Esther's uncomfortable. The baby's uncomfortable.
Jenna
Please not in front of my son.
Lia Sampson
Please. Not. Not.
Kalila
Can I get a naughty Please? I don't. I'm not into nice things.
Jenna
We're self requesting Kalila.
Esther
Too many words.
Kalila
Kyla shows up and it shows. Late to pods now. Same thing sometimes on tiger belly. These women are so sloppy. No br.
Jenna
Wait, please, keep going.
Kalila
These women are so sloppy. No bras nor makeup. A hole in the crotch of Kalila's pants. I kind of like it, though. In a world where women are always expected to look beautiful and dolled up. Fuck that. Leave women be free. It's refreshing, liberating, empowering. Wait.
Jenna
Hold on.
Esther
They just turned around.
Kalila
He turned around. I think this is a compliment.
Jenna
He got 40 halfway through.
The hole.
Kalila
They saw the hole in my pants. He was like, wait one second.
Jenna
Let me tell you.
Kalila
I like this.
Esther
Yeah, and it shows.
Lia Sampson
They edited it.
Jenna
It's like, now that I think about it.
Esther
Wait, this is. This is the same person who told me that they couldn't stand me.
Kalila
Is Sandra.
Esther
Lila shows up late to pods now. What does she mean now?
Kalila
I never used to be late, but since I became a mom, I'm like chronically five late because of a breastfeeding situation. I can't.
Lia Sampson
How dare you? I know, sorry.
Kalila
I'm sorry, Sandra, but I think this is. This is okay.
Esther
Same thing. Sometimes she thinks.
Kalila
This person thinks we're. Oh, no.
Esther
Yeah.
Kalila
Tiger belly. I think she thinks worse. I wear makeup.
Jenna
I know that that's.
Esther
That's the best I can do. You have a natural beauty, like.
Kalila
And I wear a bra like my pregnancy tits are huge.
Esther
Yeah, she. I think they're all. This person doesn't like me. They're talking about me.
Jenna
They think that you're.
Esther
They think that it's you.
Lia Sampson
It's a them thing. Because by the periods you can tell. That's when he started jerking off. That's when he was like, leave.
Yeah. So this is not a Y problem.
Kalila
Liberating, empowering. Hey.
Esther
Oh, you're right. And then it changed to. I kind of like it though.
Jenna
The hole in the pants was amazing.
Esther
In a world where women are always expected to look beautiful and dolled up la.
Jenna
This is the craziest.
Esther
Wait, I need to read it in full. Kalila shows up late to pods now. Same thing sometimes on tiger belly. These women are so sloppy. Lol. No bras or makeup. A hole in the crotch of Kalila pants. I kind of like it, though. In a world where women are always expected to look beautiful and dolled up, F that leave women be crazy free. It's refreshing, liberating, empowering, amazing.
Jenna
I love.
Kalila
I love cows crazy. You know what I think about this person? This is a person who is open to changing their minds. And that's really all we need, you know, like, we can't keep living with this rigidity. And. Yeah.
Esther
They're showing us growth in one paragraph. Sandra, I really appreciate you being able to speak on your growth as well.
Jenna
Yeah, I'll take a nice.
Lia Sampson
Here we go.
Jenna
Oh, Esther is hot today. But why today, right?
Lia Sampson
Today, Right.
Esther
That's the.
Jenna
All my compliments are like, this is so weird, but I think Esther's hot. It's never. It's just. It's always like. I can't believe I'm saying this. Yeah, I know. I'm. Some angles are pretty and some are horrible. And I get that. I'm with you.
Kalila
I.
Esther
And that's every single person.
Jenna
No, for me, it's really, really particular.
Kalila
That's the kind of face that I'm really into, though, because, you know when someone's like, so perfectly symmetrical.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Kalila
On a man and a woman, like, they're boring to me. It's like, objectively, I can be like, okay, yeah, they're very attractive. But I don't know, there's something that, like, bores me about their face. I like, can you perfect symmetry?
Esther
Because I can see your profile and it looks phenomenal.
Lia Sampson
Keep going.
Kalila
But yeah, I like, like, upness.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Kalila
I like a missing tooth. I like. Yeah.
Esther
A little ugly. A missing.
Kalila
Especially on men. I don't like, very like, you know, I don't like when men do their eyebrows clean up their brows. I. It's just like, be.
Esther
If you're going to clean up anything, clean up your nose from.
Wipe. Wipe.
Kalila
But be. You could be ugly and hot. It's okay.
Jenna
Wait, do you guys eat chicken cartilage?
Kalila
Yeah, I'm Asian.
Esther
Okay. I just thought that I was joking the other day because she ate her chicken and there was all this. The grizzle left. And I was like, I'll take the rest of your bone. And she was like, is this a joke?
Kalila
What do you mean? How do you not.
Esther
And then she thought I was eating the bone.
Kalila
You can also crack the bones and suck the marrow is what we do. Yep. Yep.
Jenna
What does the cartilage taste like?
Kalila
The car is just a little bit chewier.
Esther
But It's a nice texture because there's a crunch to it, too.
Kalila
Have you been to. Have you. Have you had pho?
Jenna
I've had fa.
Kalila
You can add cartilage. You can add.
Jenna
I just want to be clear. I want to live this way. I want to eat the cartilage. I'm not like, my sister. My mom are like me. Like, I want to. I just. I don't. I don't understand it.
Esther
Yeah. Esther texted me. Like, I'm really upset that I didn't eat it now. I really want to be eating that.
Jenna
I'm glad that it's good for you.
Kalila
It's a little harder to digest, though.
Jenna
Is it hard to get to bite it?
Kalila
You have all teeth, right? You're good. You got your molars. Yeah, you can.
Lia Sampson
You're talking to three black women, though, so, you know, Esther, we have one more nice one for you. This is the last round.
Jenna
Who is the tiny nerd girl? Does she do footstep?
Esther
Okay.
Jenna
That's my man.
Esther
I'm upset about this.
Jenna
I know we really on you last week.
Esther
I have been trying to do footsteps. I've been trying to do some foot stuff. Stuff because I thought my rating on Wikifeet was lit, and I was like, I've got, you know, crazy toes, and I want to pay my rent, and I feel so.
Lia Sampson
I.
Esther
No, you guys were honest.
Jenna
No, I was like, okay, can I tell you what happened?
Lia Sampson
Please.
Jenna
Last week, Jenna was like, guys, I've really been thinking about something, and I wanted.
Esther
Wait, time out. I was also sobbing for 22 minutes straight on the podcast because of my life.
Lia Sampson
I wanted to do, like, maybe an.
Jenna
Only fans for feet and me. And this should be like. Like, this should. This podcast should be a supportive place. Support each other's dreams.
Esther
You're being honest.
Jenna
And me and Kalila were just like, we don't think you should. We don't think that's.
Kalila
But the reason is not because I don't think she has beautiful feet. I know that.
Esther
Beautiful feet.
Kalila
You know, it's just not the pandemic era anymore when everyone was blowing up on only fans, where you could see that, like, you know the digits. Like, you know, it's like, you can make money very fast. I think it's oversaturated now, and I think we need to come up with something more clever for you.
Esther
Well, there's nothing. I have no other body parts that work.
Lia Sampson
Work right. And I'll give you a little tea.
Esther
My hands.
Lia Sampson
Boring.
Esther
They don't want that.
Jenna
They don't want that.
Lia Sampson
They don't want that. They want the weird. Like, a hemorrhoid or something.
Kalila
Yes, they do want the hemorrhoid.
Lia Sampson
And.
Esther
And I don't have one.
Lia Sampson
I got a request for a foot thingy right now. We all hear this, like, oh, women are getting money for feet. I was. Well, I have, like, just. I was. I was going to say monkey feet, but I think that's not. Not. I shouldn't say that.
Esther
Wait, no, I literally. Do you have to blur this. Look at them.
Okay. They look like this here, but look.
Lia Sampson
What they can do. They can explain the. The other mom from Coraline. It seems like those would be.
Like, yeah, I'm scared.
Esther
Like, we're not learning that I have monkeys.
Lia Sampson
Your face is everything.
Kalila
You have opposable big tail.
Lia Sampson
It look like a Xbox controller.
I got a request for a foot pick. And I was like, oh, period. Let's go. I didn't realize how not only weird my feet look, but, like, I didn't realize that you can't.
Esther
Like, that's no good.
Lia Sampson
You know what I'm saying? Like, how do you do it? So I told the guy. He was like, give me a picture of your feet. And I go, I used to do gymnastics. And he goes, that's fine. And I go, what angle? He goes, the back.
Esther
And I go, oh, they love the under.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, the under. I said, really? I said, my under is crack.
Jenna
Cracked.
Lia Sampson
And he's like, that's perfect. And I'm just. You know, I'm just trying to. I'm a good customer service. And I was like, okay. And so, yo, I took.
I've done a lot of embarrassing in my life. I've done a lot of degrading. I've done a lot of things in my life that, you know, nothing.
Esther
It's not degrading.
Lia Sampson
No, it wasn't degrading that I was doing it. It was the. The outcome of the photo. Oh, it looked like a hockey puck. Like, it looked like it was so. And I was like, it had been.
Esther
Hit so many times.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, it was just like. There was nothing, nothing that could make this. It looked like a boil. It was the craziest. So I said. And I said it to my friends in the group chat. I was like, you know, I got to get foot back. And they all go, oh, no.
And he goes, this will do.
But never did again. I've done comedy. I've been a straight woman. I've been humiliated many, many, many times. I was like, no, no, no, no. Can't do that again.
Kalila
I would have loved the bts of just you trying to get the shot.
Lia Sampson
And I was like.
Esther
And every time you're like, damn, I.
Jenna
Would not want to see that. I would lose all respect because, like.
Lia Sampson
Literally, like cuz you. Okay, do that. But then you got the. In the background. So then you go up and then it's just. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard labor.
Esther
I got to say, the last time I tried to take a foot video, there was a reflection and I ended up getting a migraine with aura from it. And I never sent the video because I was like, I can't see now. And then I had to go lay down. It was a whole situation. But I will say that ever since we posted that video, people, three people have slid saying, are you serious about the foot stuff? Send me. Sell me a foot pick.
Kalila
How much are we charging?
Esther
See, this is the thing. If I'm sending you my body, it's not cheap. It's not cheap. I don't care. If I'm sending you a picture of my hand, that is for you. So what do you think it should be? Like $200 for a. Yeah, I would.
Kalila
Say like 250 if there's effort.
Esther
I thought that I was overshooting it. Thank you.
Lia Sampson
No, no, I'd say 250.
Esther
Thank you.
Jenna
I wasn't thinking.
Esther
Esther's like $3.
Coupon.
Lia Sampson
Asian told me one time if you give a person a price, an agent.
Esther
Or an Asian, he is Asian.
Lia Sampson
So both Asian agent. He told me it was actually the. The guy from who go Panda. He told. He told me if you give a price with anything with our career, you know, especially what we do and all that, if they don't gasp, it's too low. So if they say, what's your price? And you say, whatever, and they go, cool. It's like they probably a little bit more to give. If you go $3 million, they go off like, well, I'll take 300. You know, I'll take. I'll take the 200.
Esther
I just don't want to scare them away because I need their business.
Kalila
You're playing too nice already.
Lia Sampson
Yeah. You're not scaring nobody away.
Jenna
So basic I was thinking, let them make an offer.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Esther
Yes. Yes.
Lia Sampson
What's your offer?
Esther
Well, but one time someone, a dude made an offer and it was like $20, and I was like, absolutely not. Go to a vending machine, get a Kit Kat and double it for that dopamine. You got two toes, right? There in a Kit Kat by.
Lia Sampson
What I would do is make him double and give him the worst photo he's ever. Give him, like, Megan St. Show him somebody else titties. You know, show.
Esther
Give him my toes going like this.
Jenna
Have you ever had only fans aspirations with your perfect breasts?
Lia Sampson
Yes, I've had. I've had as I've done only fans. I have only fans.
Esther
Oh, yeah.
Lia Sampson
But I've never shown my tit. Oh, no. Actually, y' all want. Y' all got a good one today. Let me tell you. Let me tell you a little.
Esther
That inhaler just made everything come out to me.
Lia Sampson
Yeah. I'm like, let me give you a little. It's actually meth. But let me tell you a little story. I've never seen. Sent a photo of my titties. My beautiful, perfectly made.
Esther
They're incredible.
Lia Sampson
Which was funny. Also, there was this guy that, like, I hooked up with, and he was like, wow, your tits are great. Like, when I watch black women on porn, their tits don't look like yours.
Esther
Okay, rude.
Lia Sampson
I. I go, go on. And he goes, yeah, I usually like pink chitties.
Esther
Oh, Lord.
Lia Sampson
I was like, I'm glad you like cows.
Anyways, so the only time I've ever sent my titties on only fans was I had this guy on my only fans message me and the language. I was like, I know who this. I know who this is. Which. That's the thing. A lot of people that follow you on, it's usually people that, like, know you. They've always wanted to you or whatever, be with you. They just were, you know, I like my old teacher. It's a whole thing. Yeah, I know. I'm just that hot. This guy was talking to me and I was like, I know this person. It was my ex boyfriend from like a hundred years ago. And I called him out, he goes, it's me. So I did send him pictures of my tits because I'm like, then they're done.
Esther
That.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, yeah.
Esther
Wait, that's incredible. Right? If you want to see them after the expiration date. Yeah.
Kalila
Money.
Esther
Hard money.
Jenna
So then what do you do on only fans?
Lia Sampson
Find out. It's a link in my bio. If you. No, actually, really, what it was, it was just like, remember that kind of what you talked about, like the whole Pandemic era?
Kalila
We were.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, we was walling. We was out there. I'm like. I was like, wait, I could show myself in a bikini and in my underwear on my Instagram for free. Yeah, no, let's just Put that on only fans and make some. And that's literally what I did. But check this out. I always say women, our job, literally the makeup, the body, all that, our job is to exist. Because I get the most, the most attention and the most when I'm literally just existing. The most money I've ever made on only fans was 570. Or from like one thing. I've made more than that, but from One thing was $575. I had no makeup on, I had no wig on. Afro out. And I was doing yoga in my room.
Esther
Right.
Lia Sampson
Literally.
Kalila
Yep.
Esther
Wait, so did you do like a lie? How does it work? Do you do. Did you live video or is it.
Lia Sampson
A post and people can recorded myself doing downward dog or whatever the. I was doing gecko lizard and I posted it.
Kalila
You're so right about that. Also during that time, like literally, my friends who were pharmacists, nurses, everyone jumped on only fans. Like it was such like a. Okay, that's just a little side hustle.
Lia Sampson
And everybody's not showing whole. You know what I'm saying? Like, cuz mind you, if I was, I wouldn't be here. Respectfully, this is a. I love you guys. This is very great. But if I was only fans showing my holes, I'd be. Be Beverly Hills right now.
Esther
Okay.
Lia Sampson
Wouldn't be nowhere down here. Okay. But yeah, it's like, that's the thing. It's like, it's kind of cool because you could do whatever you want. I just posted like that kind of opposed to like, you know me, I'm cooking in a bikini.
Kalila
Like, you know.
Lia Sampson
You'Re pregnant.
Kalila
Oh my God, you'd be a millionaire.
Lia Sampson
What?
Kalila
You could retire tomorrow.
Lia Sampson
You could literally just be. Wear a bathing suit in your kitchen. We're pimping you and your kid out.
Esther
Right now, by the way too.
Lia Sampson
And. And you already have a family. Like, you're already that girl. Everyone knows you. Like. Yeah.
Jenna
What if I was like, younger and.
Lia Sampson
Well, you look younger.
Kalila
So I mean, it's like everyone can be an all around athlete. Look at Trisha Paytas. I mean, she's done it all right. She's shown whole and then is on Broadway.
Jenna
That is a beautiful.
Kalila
It's a great arc.
Lia Sampson
Like if you're a woman, like in the industry, like if you're trying to be an actor or comedian, whatever, you can't. Can't do this and do that. But then like, I see that I saw Cardi B's like sex tape and I was like, oh, I could do it. All. Yeah, do whatever I want. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Esther
No, they just don't want us.
Lia Sampson
They just don't want us to do it.
Esther
And so they're trying to make us feel like if you do whatever you want, you can't do anything.
Kalila
They don't want you to be a multi hyphenate.
Jenna
Hey, never forget Jennifer Hudson, American Idol contestant, won an Oscar.
Esther
Yeah, that's right.
Jenna
That's where it all changed for me. Y.
Esther
What changed for you?
Jenna
That's when I decided I was going to go on a reality show. I'm trying to think of one the best. I do really want to go on the Bachelor as like a 36 how 37 year old married woman.
Kalila
The Golden Bachelor.
Jenna
I want to go on the young bachelor, the one that I'm too old for.
Kalila
But you want to be the one sought after or seeking.
Jenna
No, I just want to be one of the girls and like hang out with everybody and just like have fun.
Esther
Be like, oh, my reflux.
Lia Sampson
Hold on.
Esther
My husband's calling. Facetiming with my kid right now.
Lia Sampson
I want to go on a love island and be like, you're gay. You're gay. You're actually gay. I suck. But you're still gay. Like, I just want to be like, I hate all of y'.
Esther
All.
Lia Sampson
Give me my check.
Kalila
Love island is.
Esther
Have you guys seen heated rivalry? You know, I never watch TV shows.
Lia Sampson
No.
Esther
Cool. No one's seen it. The TV shows that I see, no one's ever seen.
Kalila
Is that reality?
Esther
No. Have any of y' all seen heated rivalry? Fucking cock, man. It's a Canadian show about a hockey team, but the men be fucking each other. And it is good because it's Canadian and because a woman wrote the books and a queer male is the director. So it's very.
Jenna
Okay. Are you into men fucking men?
Esther
I didn't think I was until I saw the show. I gotta tell you, I'm not really into like women. Men like seeing it unless it's like me and my partner. But women. Women into men. Men on this show, I guess. I mean, yeah.
Kalila
That's the same way I am with porn. If I see a man's face, it's stranger danger. It's like disgusting.
Esther
Disgusting.
Kalila
But women. Women is women.
Esther
Women is like very, very good.
Lia Sampson
Trans women. Women is kind of.
Kalila
It is. I like trans.
Esther
Yeah, yeah.
Lia Sampson
Trans women. It is a vibe. Like, it is like, love it. It's dope.
Esther
Yeah.
Jenna
Okay, but the question is, do you like men and men?
Kalila
When I see men and men, it's not that I'm turned off. I'm just, like, neutral about it. Yeah.
Esther
Because I'm like, where do I fit in? Yeah, you like it on this show? I like it. I said, but why? I don't know. They just did such a great job. Because the woman wrote the romance and the queens.
Kalila
You probably like.
Lia Sampson
I'm, like, grabbing. I didn't touch his banana until the banana's squeezing out. And go on. And then they.
Esther
Guys, it's. You have to get back to me on this. I'm dead serious. Go watch it. Go watch one episode. Okay. It's on hbo. Max. Heated rivalry. You will find you made it up. You will find that you're actually going, oh, am I? A little. What?
Kalila
Really?
Esther
Yeah. And at first, when my friend was like, like, you gotta watch the show, and I was like, I'm not into male on male. That's like, I don't care about all the penises.
Kalila
I do like your plan on going on Love island and just calling everyone out.
Lia Sampson
I want to be, like, the villain. And they're like, do you like anyone? I'm like, no. And that's okay. I'm hot.
Kalila
Do you want to be original cast, or do you want to be the new bombshell?
Lia Sampson
Oh, I'm. I'm. Oh.
Kalila
Or do you want to be Casa Amore, one of the girls that comes in later?
Lia Sampson
No, I need to be the bombshell. I need to come in and everybody.
Kalila
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Lia Sampson
Like, they're gonna be like, oh, this girl. And I'm like, like, you.
Jenna
You.
Lia Sampson
You gay. You gay. You ain't you? I still like. Yeah.
Esther
And then you just leave or do you anymore?
Lia Sampson
No, I. I'm. I'm.
Kalila
You're there to win.
Lia Sampson
America's gonna keep me in. Like, they're not. They're like, we need to see what else this gremlin's gonna do.
Kalila
And at the very tail end, you fall in love, but not. Not even because you really do, but just for, you know, for the lore. Yeah, the lore.
Lia Sampson
And then he's like, actually, no, you've been a. All season. I'm like, and you're gay. And I just fucking walk off and whatever. Now I got a Neutrogena deal and fucking, you know, I'm the face of, you know, Jumbo Juice, and it was worth it.
Esther
Yeah. Right before they hit bankruptcy, I used.
Lia Sampson
To be the Jumbo Juice Banana.
Kalila
Wait, are they gone? They're not gone, no.
Esther
But I just. I'm just very confused as to how they're still going. Because since college, I haven't gone.
Jenna
Do you feel like you were propping them up?
Esther
Yes.
Kalila
Yeah.
Lia Sampson
Shout out. I shout out them forever.
Esther
Wait, did you work also?
Lia Sampson
Yeah, it was the banana. They had a banana mascot. And I was, like, crumping in the street.
Esther
Oh, you were literally the banana.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, I literally was the banana. I was in the street.
Esther
That's crazy.
Lia Sampson
On Highway 6 and 5. Five two, whatever. In Houston, Texas. I was the one Harlem shaking in the banana.
Jenna
Wait, that's such an original scam. Because it's like you thought you were getting a smoothie and it had orange sherbert in it.
Lia Sampson
Lily sherbert. But it was low fat.
Kalila
Sure.
Lia Sampson
But I'm trying to get this endorsement deal.
Esther
Neutrogena, Jamba, right?
Lia Sampson
It was low fat sherbert and low fat juice.
Esther
Okay, do you guys want to know? Have I ever told you what I did in college when I was dating my first boyfriend? He was a track star, so he had to eat a lot of calories every day, and I didn't understand calories.
Kalila
Chicken bro.
Esther
No. But we would go to Jamba Juicer, Smoothie King, and every day he got the Hulk something. I didn't understand that it had 1800 calories intentionally. Whey protein. It was all the calories you needed in one day. And I would go with him, and I would get the same smoothie. He never said anything. I would get the same smoothie that he was getting that he would then go and run. I would eat all the same meals as him. And within a couple of months, my mom goes, it's the freshman 15, not 50.
And I had gained so much fucking weight and not even realizing that I was eating so much sugar. 1800 calories in one smoothie every single day. Day. My calorie intake was like 4, 000 for at least.
Jenna
I just want to say that I was there.
Esther
Yeah, you were.
Jenna
And I think you got fat before you started dating him.
Esther
We went to college together, okay.
Jenna
And we both were big freshman year.
Kalila
There's no trauma, like, dating a gym bro.
Esther
Like, Truly, I was eating the same thing he was eating. It was called the Hulk.
Jenna
You were already fat.
Esther
Yeah.
Lia Sampson
Trust me.
Jenna
I saw you eating cereal in my hallway.
Lia Sampson
The gym bros, they find one season that they like, and they're like, I got this. And they put it on everything.
Kalila
Everything.
Lia Sampson
Lemon pepper steak, lemon pepper chicken.
Kalila
It's always lemon pepper.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, it's always lemon pepper.
Esther
What do they. Oh, like, they find one.
Kalila
They're just basic.
Lia Sampson
No, they'll Be like, it's the same. It's like chicken, steak, the boiled chicken. Boiled chicken, the labradoodle, or.
Esther
I like this food.
Lia Sampson
Turkey. Yeah. He's eating like a dog in. In sweet potato, asparagus. Hasn't been right. Rice.
Esther
The microwavable rice.
Jenna
Of course, the girl version to me is, like, when the girls who do, like, just the turkey slices with mustard, that's like the girl ver.
Kalila
Like. Yeah, yeah.
Esther
But are they training for anything?
Jenna
No, they're. Well, to be.
Kalila
To be skinny.
Lia Sampson
I mean, I've had an eating disorder. That just sounds ghetto.
Jenna
I don't like this flavor. I'm gonna take this opportunity for a pregnancy complaint, which is that I'm trying not to have any flavor seasoning in my. My food, because if I do and then I taste it later, I'm like, I want to die. It's so gross.
Kalila
I mean, one of my biggest pregnancy heartbreaks was when I had to tell the fruit man, because, you know, the fruit stalls are everywhere that no tajin, no lemon, no chamoy, no fixings. I just had to order straight fruit. And that, like, broke my heart. He would look at me like, like, yeah. Like, are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm just embarrassada right now.
Esther
Yeah.
Kalila
He was, like, really concerned the first time I ordered, like, nothing on it. And I'm. I know. I know that feeling. It's.
Esther
It's a heartbreak, but also, the. The tasting of flavors that you don't want later on in the day is really bad. Like, when I eat garlic, I love the taste of garlic, but I don't eat it because my acid reflux. And when it comes up later.
Jenna
Why are you already pregnant?
Esther
I know.
Kalila
Now, you and I, Jenna, there are people that hang on to garlic smells longer, because when my partner eats garlic, it's like. Like, he. He never smells like it. You and I, three days later, we still smell like it.
Esther
Three to five days later. It is coming out of my. It's disgusting.
Lia Sampson
I. I knew I was pregnant.
Kalila
Ooh, flex.
Lia Sampson
I think I ever talked about this in a podcast. O. I knew I was pregnant because there was a spot that I used to barton at, and they had a fried chicken. You see where I'm going with this? There was a fried chicken.
Restaurant attached to the bar, and I would eat that every day. And then one day I came in and I smelled the chicken, and I was just like. And I was like, I want. I was like, oh, no. And I. And I'm. I'm Barfing at the smell of fried chicken. It was good chicken. That's it. I gotta make a call.
Jenna
You literally knew.
Lia Sampson
Oh, for sure.
Kalila
But you didn't even do a pregnancy test. It's a real pregnancy symptom to like reject, reject me.
Lia Sampson
And they all kind of happen at the same time. It was like. It was like my tits were like, like hard. It was like they were so hard. And I was just. I remember I was like frowning. I was just like, I was just walking around like this. And then I go to work and I smelled the fried chicken. The chicken. And it's great chicken that I eat every day. This I like, I smelt it. And I was just like, bring back slavery. Because this is. I was like, I can't. I was like, this is too much. And then I took like three dollar store pregnancy tests and it was like, like, make a call.
But I. I won't say how it. It ended, but it just, it just ended.
Esther
Well, it ended.
Kalila
It's such a good reality though. Like, I had a friend who got pregnant from a guy that she had like, just met.
Esther
Yeah.
Kalila
Or they had been dating for like three weeks or whatever. But the way she knew she was pregnant is because they went to the movies and all of a sudden she was repulsed by his like, like scent.
Lia Sampson
Yeah.
Kalila
And I think that's such a real pregnancy symptom is to be like, there's a period of time where you're just like icked out by not just meat, but like by your partner even. Yeah. It's a weird.
Esther
I mean, I don't know, but from all the millions of pregnant friends that I always have, that. My friend who got pregnant too, she was like disgusted by her partner. She didn't know she was pregnant. This is like the first couple of weeks. Weeks. And she was disgusted by him, but also like, didn't want him to leave.
Kalila
Ever stay in the vicinity.
Jenna
I'm surprised by this because my aversions don't start until like several weeks after a missed period.
Lia Sampson
Sorry. This is your second kid, right?
Jenna
Yeah, Third part. I had lost the first one, but yeah, second baby. But like, but, but my earliest sign is always my bra hurts. I'm like, why is my bra hurting me? Like, I remember I was at dinner and I took my bra straw off at dinner.
Esther
Yeah. I was like, very unlike Esther.
Jenna
Yeah. Like, weird.
Kalila
That's another, like, truth that these don't understand is like by the time you do realize that your body is changing, you're six, seven weeks in. I feel a Symptom.
Jenna
Earlier than that I would never know. Early. Like I.
Kalila
You just don't. Unless you are tracking your period like a crazy person.
Esther
Which.
Jenna
But even then mine is some days it's, it's some, some, some months it's a 30 day cycle. Some months it's a 45 day cycle. Like there's no.
Esther
I just had 149 day cycle. So it's like, how would I know? Whenever I go to the doctors, they're like, could you be pregnant? And I go, no. And they go, okay, would you mind, Would you. Do you want to do a. Do you want to pee in a cup? And then every time they come and they go, we really thought you were going to be pregnant. And I'm like, no, I just gained weight. Hate.
Jenna
They're racist.
Lia Sampson
Yeah, that's why LA traffic. Like I'm stressed.
Esther
They're like, we saw you checked the Latina box. We thought you were pregnant.
Lia Sampson
Are your kids in the car?
Esther
I was watching them.
Jenna
But that is so crazy. Like that sounds like such a. I don't know, like a unique experience to like have a food that you love and then all of a sudden be like, it's grossing me out. And then to know exactly what that means because I would be like, oh, I must be sick. I don't know. That's just so I'm into that.
Lia Sampson
I do the thing about me, my, I'm pretty like on brand with like what I like what I don't like, the only time I do feel kind of like that is when I'm starting my period. Like I love like, I like meat, like red meat. But when I'm. When I'm on my period, I'm like, I need steak. And like I love sushi. But when I'm on period, the smell of sushi makes me want to barf.
Kalila
You're so anemic.
Esther
Yeah, yeah, I know that Feeling sensitive?
Lia Sampson
Very.
Jenna
I love how in tune you are.
Esther
Yeah.
Lia Sampson
I didn't choose this. It was me.
Esther
You sound like me.
Lia Sampson
That's why when something is a little off, I freak the out because I'm like, if I am a day or two late, I'm like, what we doing girl?
Esther
Like you just go and smell chicken.
Lia Sampson
No, I'm like, we still like, I lick it raw.
Jenna
I'm like, okay.
Lia Sampson
I was like, now if I get salmonella then right, I'm pregnant.
Esther
Oh yeah.
Jenna
That. It was like the one thing that was so shocking to me how real pregnancy is that one morning I was coming here and I went up to the kitchen to fill my water bottle and our nanny was defrosting, defrosting chicken. And I just looked at the raw chicken and I just threw up.
Esther
Yeah.
Jenna
Like why? I don't know why.
Lia Sampson
This is some hormones. Them hormones, they just, you know, there.
Kalila
Were songs I couldn't listen to because they would trigger nausea. Like I. This is why I would tell people in the beginning I was like, I would just drive in silence because I would hear a song that I would probably normally like love and I would phys. Like I would be physically ill. I'm like, I can't deal with that. The hurts or whatever. You know.
Esther
This is also such a testament to like when we are in tune with our bodies and you can't ignore them. How much things are affecting them or can affect them. Like sounds or smell. All of the senses. Yeah. Feelings.
Lia Sampson
I always say, you know how guys are so cool quick to be like, smell like fish. Here's the thing. We know if our smells like fish. Now I don't know about y' all or not. I don't know about y', all. But if you smell like, like smells like fish and you still be like it yolo. That's on you. You deserve all the hate that you get after that. But also he does too because it's like, what are we doing? I'm like, no. You know when you have an like women. We know. You know when you have an infection, you know when you have.
Kalila
Because it's uncomfortable. It's not just the smell. Like BV is like.
Lia Sampson
It's like it hits you like, oh I yeah. Need to call that man and ask him some questions cuz things are feeling crazy.
Esther
We do know like I know if.
Lia Sampson
My kuji smelly fish. Which is BV by the way. Guys relax. And mostly comes from who? Men.
Esther
Yeah.
Lia Sampson
Thank you. That anyways.
Kalila
Smells like pretty fishy too.
Lia Sampson
What's that? Isn't it a.
Esther
It's a parasite.
Kalila
That's bacteria, I think. No, BV is bacterial. Vaginalism.
Esther
I think it's a parasite.
Kalila
I don't think it's trick.
Esther
It's like a vaginal parasite. Trichomoniasis.
Jenna
That's the one where it's green, right?
Esther
Yes.
Jenna
I've never seen it, but I've heard.
Esther
Well, because.
Kalila
Oh, but in BV is a little bit silvery.
Esther
You know why I'm thinking this yellow?
Kalila
I thought, oh, I don't know.
Esther
You know, I'm thinking this. Remember when I went to Mexico and I got the vaginal parasite? Yeah. They thought it was trick.
Kalila
Yeah.
Esther
For the long. I went cave with water for a very long time.
Jenna
She's an idiot. That's why.
Esther
And there were so many.
Kalila
It was like a cenote.
Esther
I thought it was so cool. Yes, but it wasn't a natural cenote where there were the water flowing in and out.
Kalila
It was like stagnant water park.
Jenna
You were in a swamp.
Hearing this story. Like, I don't even want to take a bath anymore. Like I don't want to be in water. That is. No, this one was.
Esther
I was there just going like this. So amazing. Look at all the bats and like climbing up on rocks box. And I think the issue too is I was peeing all the time. So my was opening and then like closing instead of just being closed.
Lia Sampson
I don't know.
And I'm bullying you because I didn't know that either I would change my tampon every time I peed because I thought, yeah. And then one day my friend was like, I'm not dreaming your business, but.
Esther
But your urethra is up your inside of your vulva.
Kalila
It's tough.
Door is what you're saying.
Lia Sampson
But usually that man in the room, stop throwing up. It's fine. Like.
Esther
Cuz usually your labia is like here.
Kalila
And then if you in that. There have been times where my urethra has accidentally gotten soap inside. And then I pee after. And it burns.
Esther
Really?
Kalila
When you wash it a little too hard.
Lia Sampson
Oh, you know what? You're not supposed to use soap.
Kalila
Soap. Yeah. Yeah. We stopped.
Lia Sampson
So my old crumpled little Jewish gyno was like, why the are you using soap?
Kalila
Yes.
Lia Sampson
And he says you need to use water. And ever since he said that, boom. I was like, I never thought that my vaginal health would be in excellent shape due to a fudgeing man and his 100 years of living like.
Esther
But a crippled old Jew.
Lia Sampson
It's like, oh, sure, I'm listening to everything he said. Yeah, yeah, he's the. He's the fucking WikiLeaks of life, dude.
Esther
But I thought they thought I had trick. And they were like, yeah, we can see it. And then I went back three times to Plan Parenthood and then another gynecologist. And they were like, no, you don't. But at this point, I was already bleeding. It had been three or four months. They were like, you like you have to take these antibiotics. But they didn't know which one to give me. And then they finally found out that I had a parasite.
Jenna
They're like, congratulations, you have a family.
Esther
Living in Here, it's a family of bats.
Kalila
Oh, you're a mother of bats.
Esther
I would love to be a mother of bats.
Jenna
Oh, bats are cute.
Esther
But all to say, don't. Don't be in standing sitting.
Water for a long time. I was there for a long time.
Kalila
This is why I don't do lakes either. I'm an ocean girly through and through. I need movement. I need to see water.
Jenna
Yeah, you're sitting your vagina safe in there.
Kalila
You're. You can still get like stuff on your skin and anything else, I'm sure, but like lake stuff. You have the amoeba you got.
Esther
Yeah, it's in whole.
Lia Sampson
Go to the little lakes where the. In Austin they have a. The lakes out there where like they have the fishies.
Esther
Oh, they eat it off your Ding ding.
Kalila
The dead skin.
Lia Sampson
Now granted, what's crazy, there's spas that you pay for that you go to Austin, grab a beer, go in there and it's. They, they literally, they just like eat the off me and you come out looking like a revived white woman. It's like, it's, it's. It's nice. And then you buy a house later.
Esther
And it's is super fun with zero apr.
Kalila
Sorry, I'm sorry about your no redlining Parasite. That's scary.
Lia Sampson
Parasite.
Esther
This was, this was last year and it was like a seven month ordeal. It was really, really bad. And then they finally just gave me the antibiotic that was for. What do they call it for, for parasites.
Kalila
What is it like ginger Alex.
Esther
It was something really strong. And when they first told me that I had Trick, I was like, first off, I'm not. And then like, who did? My man's right. And I called him and he was like, I don't know what to say. Like, I will get tested to prove to you, but like I have not done anything. And then I was like, oh, they actually said it's not Trick. Sorry. Like after he had gone and got tested, I went back like two days later and they're like, we don't know what you're talking about. You do not have Trick. You have something. It's like a parasite. Oh, it was bad fun.
Lia Sampson
On that note, on that note, glad you're still here.
Jenna
On that note, our producers want you to leave the building.
Esther
Great.
Jenna
You guys, thank you so much. Thank you. Leah, you are so fun and funny.
Lia Sampson
Oh, I love you guys.
Jenna
We really actually lowkey hope that you stay here.
Lia Sampson
I lowy too.
Jenna
Even though New York is cooler. Thank you so much. Sluggies for being here. And I think that's it. Right? We'll see you next week with a brand new episode.
Esther
Gay new studio.
Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn
Episode: Lea’h Sampson & Tia Jenna Go Wild
Date: December 9, 2025
In this high-energy episode, Khalyla Kuhn and Esther Povitsky christen their new studio, joined by viral stand-up comic Lea’h Sampson and regular Jenna (Tia Jenna). The crew delivers on "slugginess" with unfiltered banter about LA culture, personal hygiene, dog discipline, flaky entertainment industry etiquette, pregnancy symptoms, and the wild world of internet comments. Expect candid stories, comedic rants about dating, social expectations, foot pics, and bodily functions, all wrapped in the irreverent and intimate "Trash Tuesday" vibe.
"I'm sacrificing my motherhood duties to be there with you guys." — Khalyla [01:11]"Sluggies galore." — Esther [01:47]"Within four seconds, I become like an old Jewish woman." — Lea’h [04:36]"She stayed outside for three days. Never did it again. Never did that again." — Lea’h, disciplining her pup [09:20]"They just want to have a story to say. I interacted with this person." — Lea’h [14:05]"In LA, the industry, is just very flaky and very weird." — Khalyla [13:13]"I think I have it for, like, effort." — Khalyla [16:41]"If I see even, like, a shine, like a suggestion of snot in a man's face, it's such an ick for me." — Khalyla [19:25]"If I'm sending you my body, it's not cheap. … $200 for a [foot pic]." — Esther [57:47]"If I was on OnlyFans showing my holes, I'd be [in] Beverly Hills right now." — Lea’h [62:22]"Esther is pregnant and sick this episode, and she's never looked hotter. What the fuck is happening?" — Nice comment [34:12]"Bunch of smelly looking middle aged women talking like 12 year olds. America, period." — Naughty comment [43:40]"You could be ugly and hot. It's okay." — Kalila [52:24]"Don't be in standing sitting water for a long time." — Esther [81:28]"All to say, don't be in stagnant water for a long time." — Kalila [81:31]"You're gay, you're gay, you're actually gay. I suck. But you're still gay." — Lea’h, on her strategy [64:23]"These women are so sloppy. No bras nor makeup. A hole in the crotch of Kalila's pants. I kind of like it, though..." — Anonymous comment, later embraced by Kalila as empowerment [00:08 / 48:33]"Within four seconds, I become like an old Jewish woman." — Lea’h Sampson [04:36]"She stayed outside for three days. Never did it again. Never did that again." — Lea’h recounting dog discipline [09:20]"In LA, the industry is just very flaky and very weird." — Khalyla [13:13]"I have frisson for parades...I just burst out in tears." — Khalyla [14:31]"If I see even, like, a shine, like a suggestion of snot in a man's face, it's such an ick for me." — Khalyla [19:25]"As a man, it's rude to order hot chocolate." — Jenna [23:13]"Women, our job is to exist. I get the most attention when I'm literally just existing." — Lea’h [61:36]"If I was on OnlyFans showing my holes, I'd be in Beverly Hills right now." — Lea’h [62:22]"You could be ugly and hot. It's okay." — Kalila [52:24]"Don't be in standing sitting water for a long time." — Esther [81:28]"I can't do white dick, and I think white guys really hate me in these last couple years." — Kalila [40:06]"You're gay, you're gay, you're actually gay." — Lea’h, on wanting to be a Love Island bombshell [64:23]Casual, explicitly honest, body-positive, self-deprecating, sharp, and sisterly. Humor is grounded in personal experience, sometimes outrageous, always relatable for listeners who crave unfiltered, real talk.
Whether you missed the episode or couldn’t catch every theme, this one is a quintessential "Trash Tuesday": a whirlwind of hot takes, relatable (and sometimes gross) honesty, internet-fueled commentary, and heart. The guests and regulars pull no punches about their own bodies, careers, and the odd stuff life throws their way, showing that empowerment can begin with laughing about a hole in your pants or an off-brand foot pic.