Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn
Episode: ROSEBUD BAKER & BLAIR SOCCI Spill The Gospel
Date: November 4, 2025
Guests: Rosebud Baker & Blair Socci (plus regulars Jenna Kim Jones and Producer Guy)
Episode Overview
This lively, chaotic, and highly personal episode brings comedians Rosebud Baker and Blair Socci into the Sluggies' den to riff with hosts Esther Povitsky and Khalyla Kuhn. The main theme orbits around the viral “Trad Wife” and "Christian Girl Autumn" aesthetics, but expands into candid, funny, and sometimes painful discussions about motherhood, friendship, gender roles, family dysfunction, reality TV, and self-acceptance. The crew meanders into deep personal anecdotes, vivid stories about family darkness and resilience, and sharp pop culture takes, all in classic Trash Tuesday style—unfiltered, honest, and hilarious.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Trad Wife/Christian Girl Autumn: Cosplay or Core?
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Trad Wife Trends
- The panel debates the trend of "trad wives"—women who embrace old-fashioned, domesticated roles, complete with butter churning and prairie dresses.
- It's mostly approached with irony and skepticism, but some traditions appeal, such as family cooking and wearing flowy linen dresses.
- The group plays a tongue-in-cheek “Trad Wife Point Game” based off whether they’d churn butter, pick herbs in a dress, bake from scratch, or own farm animals.
- “I like to be a hot milkmaid. For sex, maybe!” – Jenna Kim Jones (43:06)
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Domesticity & Cooking
- Cooking—especially for the family—becomes a confessional topic, with Rosebud admitting she doesn’t cook at all, while Esther claims “semi-homemade is my energy.”
- “I just don’t have the counter space [for a butter churner]. And I’m not going to do it more than once a year.” – Rosebud Baker (41:56)
- Cooking—especially for the family—becomes a confessional topic, with Rosebud admitting she doesn’t cook at all, while Esther claims “semi-homemade is my energy.”
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Dress Like a Victorian Milkmaid Challenge
- Playful agreement: most would do it “once in a while,” but not as a life commitment (43:03).
2. The Reality (and Surrealism) of Motherhood
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Parenting Support & Lesbian Envy
- Discussion about two-mom households and “maternal instincts double,” with tongue-in-cheek “reactionary lesbian” aspirations.
- “Honestly, if this one doesn’t go, I’m for sure, sure, going reactionary lesbian.” – Esther Povitsky (04:30)
- Discussion about two-mom households and “maternal instincts double,” with tongue-in-cheek “reactionary lesbian” aspirations.
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Motherhood Mishaps and Fears
- The group shares harrowing and comical tales of kids falling, breath-holding spells (36:10), and parental guilt, ultimately agreeing all kids get hurt—judgment suspended.
- “You have to forgive yourself. My whole place is babyproofed and no matter what, he’s gonna bang something and cry.” – Esther Povitsky (34:35)
- Rosebud recounts her daughter fainting from crying: “It’s a three-second spell that feels like it’s three minutes long.” (36:51)
- The group shares harrowing and comical tales of kids falling, breath-holding spells (36:10), and parental guilt, ultimately agreeing all kids get hurt—judgment suspended.
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Generational Differences in Parenting
- The hosts contrast their own self-awareness with the stoicism or bluntness of their mothers, highlighting cultural shifts in apologizing and addressing kids’ emotional needs.
- “The fact that [my daughter] knows she’s scared is so important to me... because I didn’t know. I still don’t fucking know.” – Rosebud Baker (68:36)
- The hosts contrast their own self-awareness with the stoicism or bluntness of their mothers, highlighting cultural shifts in apologizing and addressing kids’ emotional needs.
3. Family, Loyalty, and Darkness
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Would Your Family Turn You In? (Crime Segment)
- A darkly funny discussion on whether their families would cover up for them if they committed a crime, with personal stories ranging from relatives serving time for murder to family-induced chicken tragedies.
- “My uncle, who’s a murderer, would do it again for any of us…He loves me so deeply.” – Esther Povitsky (24:11, 25:44)
- A darkly funny discussion on whether their families would cover up for them if they committed a crime, with personal stories ranging from relatives serving time for murder to family-induced chicken tragedies.
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Core Trauma Stories
- Esther shares a brutal childhood story: her aunt amputated the leg of her beloved childhood chicken out of anger, leading to deep ongoing pain and a reflection on unpredictable intergenerational trauma.
- “She did the worst thing ever and she cut off one of his legs. That is like a core wound.” – Esther Povitsky (65:46)
- Esther shares a brutal childhood story: her aunt amputated the leg of her beloved childhood chicken out of anger, leading to deep ongoing pain and a reflection on unpredictable intergenerational trauma.
4. Gossip, Friendship & Sensing Vibes
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Who Gossips More—Men or Women?
- The classic stereotype is debated, with the conclusion that men gossip just as much but rebrand it as “talking.”
- “All the men I know are way bigger gossips than women are.” – Kalila Holt (16:00)
- Gossip keeps communities safe, according to Filipino culture anecdotes: “Filipina aunties, moms, gossip and keep the neighborhood safe.” – Esther Povitsky (16:36)
- The classic stereotype is debated, with the conclusion that men gossip just as much but rebrand it as “talking.”
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Social Sensing, Autism, and Friend Vetting
- Blair discusses her literal-mindedness due to autism, and Rosebud claims to fake friendliness even toward people she senses as “evil.”
- “She doesn’t know when people are lying—she takes everything so literally.” – Rosebud Baker, about Blair (17:34)
- Blair discusses her literal-mindedness due to autism, and Rosebud claims to fake friendliness even toward people she senses as “evil.”
5. Submission, Gender Roles, and Male Fragility
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Submitting to Husbands—Yay or Nay?
- Universally rejected, except as a bedroom or performative fantasy, with pointed discussion about men who desire submission as suspect or “little bitch energy.”
- “[A man] who’s afraid of a woman being powerful is truly...going to insist that she submit because he’s afraid.” – Esther Povitsky (50:46)
- “If we truly are less than, you should be chill with us doing whatever we want.” – Kalila Holt (51:21)
- Universally rejected, except as a bedroom or performative fantasy, with pointed discussion about men who desire submission as suspect or “little bitch energy.”
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Toxicity & Accessories
- Rosebud’s ex-boyfriend: both physically abusive and “wore the most jewelry,” which is cited as an indignity on par with his violence.
- “I don’t know what’s worse—the fact he hit me or the fact he wore fedoras.” – Rosebud Baker (52:15)
- Rosebud’s ex-boyfriend: both physically abusive and “wore the most jewelry,” which is cited as an indignity on par with his violence.
6. Reality TV: The Sopranos of Bravo & Guilty Pleasures
- American vs. Foreign Reality TV
- The group loves reality TV, with Rosebud advocating for the “dark” side (“The Valley”), while others argue British/foreign shows are less toxic but equally addictive.
- “Vanderpump Rules...is like the Sopranos of reality TV.” – Rosebud Baker (56:25)
- “It’s like wrestling for women.” – Jenna Kim Jones (55:56)
- The group loves reality TV, with Rosebud advocating for the “dark” side (“The Valley”), while others argue British/foreign shows are less toxic but equally addictive.
- Binge vs. Scheduled Viewing
- A debate on whether shows like Breaking Bad should be binged:
- “Breaking Bad is exactly meant to be binged.” – Rosebud Baker (58:25)
- “No, it’s not... That’s why your brain is so twisted.” – Jenna Kim Jones (58:28)
- A debate on whether shows like Breaking Bad should be binged:
7. School, Homework, and Societal Pressures
- Homeschool, Homework, and Gendered Expectations
- Homeschooling is a contentious topic—they appreciate its safety but worry about raising “weird” kids. Most agree American school culture—especially homework and academic rigor—is outdated and overwhelming.
- “The idea of homework is absolute bullshit…I hated it, it took away my time to just be a kid.” – Esther Povitsky (60:06)
- Homeschooling is a contentious topic—they appreciate its safety but worry about raising “weird” kids. Most agree American school culture—especially homework and academic rigor—is outdated and overwhelming.
8. Cloning, Self-Love, and the Limits of Identity
- Would You Clone Your Pet? Yourself?
- Kalila fantasizes about having 40 clones of her dog. Esther warns, referencing a This American Life story where a cloned bull turns violent.
- “You can’t clone a soul.” – Rosebud Baker (70:12)
- The idea of cloning yourself leads to concerns about evil or manipulative clones: “What if your clone stole your man?” (71:24)
- Kalila fantasizes about having 40 clones of her dog. Esther warns, referencing a This American Life story where a cloned bull turns violent.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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“You have to forgive yourself. My whole place is babyproofed and no matter what, he’s gonna bang something and cry.”
— Esther Povitsky (34:35) -
“If you really want to feel alive, go to a trapeze class. For real.”
— Rosebud Baker (13:04) -
“All the men I know are way bigger gossips than women are.”
— Kalila Holt (16:00) -
“My uncle, who’s a murderer, would do it again for any of us... He loves me so deeply.”
— Esther Povitsky (24:11) -
“The fact that [my daughter] knows she’s scared is so important to me...because I didn’t know. I still don’t fucking know.”
— Rosebud Baker (68:36) -
“If we truly are less than, you should be chill with us doing whatever we want, why are you obsessed?”
— Kalila Holt (51:21) -
“I don’t know what’s worse—the fact he hit me or the fact he wore fedoras.”
— Rosebud Baker (52:15)
Timestamps of Key Segments
- Christian Girl Autumn & Trad Wife Aesthetics: 03:34 – 09:10
- Motherhood, Cooking & Domesticity: 10:02 – 13:07
- Gossip & Social Sensing: 16:00 – 18:44
- Family Loyalty & Crime Stories: 23:31 – 26:07
- Submitting to Partners (Gender Roles): 48:55 – 51:50
- Trauma, Childhood, and Parenting Styles: 46:17 – 49:07; 68:01 – 69:08
- Farm Animals & Heartbreak Stories: 65:14 – 66:56
- Trad Wife Game (Butter, Baking, Dress-up): 41:01 – 44:13
- Reality TV, Bravo, and Binge Culture: 55:46 – 58:49
- Cloning Pets & Yourself: 69:16 – 71:07
Tone & Style
Unapologetically raw, self-deprecating, and hilarious, this episode blends serious reflections with irreverence and plenty of bits. The hosts and guests are quick to undercut heavy moments with warmth or a joke, creating an atmosphere that is cathartic and inclusive—like eavesdropping on an overdue catch-up between old friends who’ve seen, and survived, a lot.
Takeaway
“Trash Tuesday”’s magic is in the mess: dark jokes meet honest confessions, pop culture gets improbably deep, and the line between performance and vulnerability vanishes. Whether tackling trauma, failed relationships, reality TV, or what it means to be a “trad wife” in 2025, this crew finds humor—and maybe healing—in their shared struggles.
Ultimate Trad Wife 2025:
Khalyla takes the win: “Milk maid K, six points...and big, big old tatties.” (71:50)
Closing:
Warm send-offs, plugs for upcoming tour dates and new podcasts (Rosebud’s and Jenna’s), and an affectionate promise to reconvene for more chaos next week.
Perfect for: Fans of unfiltered female comedy, surreal family stories, or anyone struggling to “do it right” (and laugh while trying).
