CO-HOST | Make Money by Avoiding Scams, Theft, and Costly Mistakes

Summary

Podcast Summary: Travis Makes Money – “Make Money by Avoiding Scams, Theft, and Costly Mistakes”

Hosted by: Travis Chappell
Co-host: Eric (Producer)
Date: June 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Travis Chappell welcomes his producer Eric and embarks on a candid and humorous journey through personal stories of scams, robberies, and thefts. Using both their own experiences and recent headlines (including Grant Cardone’s recent high-profile robbery), Travis and Eric unpack the risks, mindset, and preventative strategies that can help protect your money and assets. The episode weaves together cautionary tales, advice on fraud prevention, and tips for not letting unfortunate events derail your financial goals—all delivered in the duo’s trademark casual, sharp-witted manner.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. High-Profile Robberies & Professional Theft Rings

Timestamps: [00:53] – [02:27]

• The discussion kicks off with a story about Grant Cardone being robbed at the F1 race in Miami.
• Eric explains how organized crime targets high-value watches at large events, indicating these aren't crimes of opportunity, but planned heists.
• Watches like Richard Mille can be out of the country and sold within 24 hours of being stolen.
• Important insight about event liability: “[When] you go to an F1 race, you’re not allowed to sue. At that ticket, you have to arbitrate. You cannot sue the company for damages.” (Eric, [02:29])
• The extent of the problem: “I think that day, they lost seven Richard Mille watches.” (Eric, [02:39])

2. Personal Experiences with Scams & Theft

Timestamps: [03:09] – [06:16]

• Travis questions the group about personal experiences being robbed or scammed.
• Trapschapel reveals being scammed as a teen when flipping iPhones on eBay—classic international wire scam.
• Advice emerges: Always be wary of requests to send money or items overseas, especially if something feels off, and heed institutional warnings from places like MoneyGram.
• Travis observes, “It’s good that they [warn people],” to which Trapschapel agrees, reflecting on how many are protected by vigilant staff ([04:50]).
• Highlight: The role of age, confusion, and technology in making people (especially the elderly) vulnerable to scams—including AI-generated calls mimicking loved ones in distress ([05:41]).

3. Break-ins, Home Robberies, and Inside Jobs

Timestamps: [06:13] – [13:01]

• Both hosts share vivid stories of home break-ins, with a focus on how often thieves are people who have had access to the home (contractors, cleaners).
• Example: Trapschapel’s family home is robbed, with thieves taking a collection of collectibles and silver coins, likely by someone familiar with the property ([06:16]-[07:53]).
• The problem of recourse is discussed—getting property back is often slow, and property managers and legal systems aren’t always responsive or helpful.

Notable Story: Travis’s Home Robbery by a Neighbor

Timestamps: [09:11] – [15:45]

• Travis details an incident where a neighbor broke into his apartment, stealing a TV and jewelry. He recounts the steps taken: detective work to trace items to a pawn shop, interactions with law enforcement, and the difficulty of seeing justice served when the thief is a neighbor.
• Through investigation and persistence, Travis recovered the stolen goods (after having to buy them back from the pawn shop).
• Frustration is palpable with law enforcement and property management’s limited intervention.
• “He broke our window screen down and climbed over my bed and stole my stuff. And I’m living next door to him.” (Travis, [13:21])

4. Dealing With and Preventing Scams

Timestamps: [20:30] – [21:24]

• Trapschapel shares modern safety tactics, like using ChatGPT to analyze suspicious messages or emails for scam red flags.
• Travis and Trapschapel joke about the risk: “It’s great, till it’s wrong. And then you send [money to] jail. Or… you don’t send the money, and you find out you had a legitimate bill.” (Travis, [21:16])
• Key advice: Don’t trust any unsolicited message—verify independently, and when in doubt, seek technological or personal backup for confirmation.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On how organized theft works at major events:
  “When people are trying to ex. Small, narrow place, they get all close and they put a big rush on. Like there’s something violent happening in space. And at that time, one guy comes in, he lifts a watch.”
  — Eric (Producer), [01:21]

• On event liability and arbitration:
  “When you go to an F1 race, you’re not allowed to sue. Really? At that ticket. You have to arbitrate.”
  — Eric, [02:29]

• On being young and naïve in scams:
  “Luckily, he caught me. So I didn’t pay the extra money that they’re trying to get me to pay. But I was like 16 or something like that. And it was like, well, there goes 500 bucks, which is like half the money I have.”
  — Trapschapel, [04:13]

• On the emotional toll of scams:
  “I saw a video… old lady… at a crypto ATM and she's crying on the phone... She drained her savings account and was like, trying to send it. And... the police are like, we’re here. We’re not arresting you.”
  — Travis, [04:53]

• On using AI to identify scams:
  “Anytime I get a message like that, I copy paste it into ChatGPT or something like that and ask it, you know, like, does this seem legit to you? And will always break it down and be like, nope, this is a red flag.”
  — Trapschapel, [20:58]

• On living next to your own robber:
  “He broke our window screen down and climbed over my bed and stole my stuff. And I’m living next door to him.”
  — Travis, [13:21]

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Tips and Mindset Shifts

Timestamps: [16:05] – [19:52], [20:30] – [21:39]

• Be skeptical of unusual financial requests, especially involving overseas transfers.
• Regularly check your accounts and investigate unrecognized charges—small crimes add up over time.
• Awareness that theft and scams often come from people nearby or with access, not just strangers.
• Don’t rely on the legal system or property management to make you whole—act quickly, do your own research, and document everything.
• Use AI and tech tools to assist in scam identification, but don't substitute for direct verification.
• Maintain a mindset of learning and resilience—don’t let these setbacks keep you from moving forward.

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Call to Action

Trapschapel invites listeners to share their own “robbery stories” via Instagram for discussion in future episodes. The ultimate takeaway: while you can’t always prevent crime and loss, you can protect yourself, learn, adapt, and keep working towards your financial goals.
“Money only solves your money problems, but it’s easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank. So let's start there…” — Travis, [21:41]

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Key Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------|------------------| | Grant Cardone's F1 Robbery | [00:53] – [02:27]| | Personal Scam Stories | [03:09] – [06:16]| | Home Break-ins & Inside Jobs | [06:13] – [13:01]| | Travis’s Apartment Robbery | [09:11] – [15:45]| | Modern Scam Avoidance Tips | [20:30] – [21:24]|

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Final Notes

The episode is a blend of cautionary tales, practical advice, and tongue-in-cheek banter—arming you with mindset shifts and useful tactics to avoid costly mistakes while reminding listeners that the path to financial security is lined with both risk and opportunity.

For more real stories and actionable tips on making (and keeping) money, catch daily episodes of Travis Makes Money.

Transcript

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[Eric (Producer)]

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[Travis]

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[Trapschapel]

Everything's either gonna be okay. No, stop. Or not. We are outgunned and we are outmanned.

[Eric (Producer)]

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[Travis]

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[Trapschapel]

You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by GoHighLevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast, where it's a mission to help you make more money on this episode of the show. My producer Eric is in studio. What's up, man?

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[Travis]

There's been a robbery.

[Trapschapel]

There has?

[Travis]

Yep. Where Grant Cardone was robbed.

[Trapschapel]

Was he.

[Travis]

He was robbed six days ago or maybe, I don't know. He was robbed at F1. Did you know that?

[Trapschapel]

No.

[Travis]

Really?

[Trapschapel]

I did not know that.

[Travis]

You're like such a big.

[Trapschapel]

He's actually robbed.

[Travis]

Yeah, he was robbed, like, physically, physically robbed at F1 in Miami. You didn't know that?

[Trapschapel]

I did not know that.

[Travis]

Wow. Here we go.

[Eric (Producer)]

If you ever go to an F1 in Miami, do not wear a watch that can unlatch easily.

[Trapschapel]

What was the watch?

[Eric (Producer)]

Was it a, you know, almost a million dollar watch? When people are trying to ex. Small, narrow place, they get all close and they put a big rush on. Like there's something violent happening in space. And at that time, one guy comes in, he lifts a watch.

[Travis]

Professionals, almost.

[Eric (Producer)]

Oh, total professionals. Now the professionals that are doing this have been hired by somebody else to do it. Really? So they target the guys and the specific watch.

[Travis]

Oh, this is the.

[Eric (Producer)]

So these guys are getting paid.

[Travis]

This guy's a glazer, this interviewer.

[Trapschapel]

Oh, I thought, you know what?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Really?

[Trapschapel]

I literally, I had the thought that this guy, like, works for the Cardones and just started.

[Travis]

You know who he is?

[Trapschapel]

No, I don't. That's why. That's my point is like, I couldn't see if he had his own podcast or something.

[Travis]

You've seen this?

[Trapschapel]

I didn't.

[Travis]

Or you just seen this guy? Oh, maybe.

[Trapschapel]

Let me see. I'm almost sure, though I don't want to. If it's the.

[Ad Voice]

If.

[Trapschapel]

If it's what I'm thinking, because what

[Eric (Producer)]

you said about 5,000. Here's the guy. Here's his picture. This is the watch. Take it. Whoa.

[Trapschapel]

Yeah.

[Eric (Producer)]

Okay, so it's A ring.

[Trapschapel]

Yeah, that was who I thought.

[Eric (Producer)]

Miami telling you guys, you picked this watch. This guy feels like whatever the number is. That watch then goes to the owner. That owner already has a buyer that. That watch is out of the country within 24. Oh, yeah.

[Travis]

Oh, this is a much bigger thing that.

[Eric (Producer)]

Oh, no. This is organized. Some idiot just.

[Travis]

Whoa.

[Eric (Producer)]

When you go to an F1 race, you're not allowed to sue. Really? At that ticket. You have to arbitrate. You cannot sue the company for damages. I didn't know this.

[Trapschapel]

There's nothing you could do.

[Eric (Producer)]

I think that day, they lost seven Richard Mille watches. Hate that. Yeah, I hate that loss because I felt so violated.

[Travis]

It's probably also because the watch is expensive. Yeah, it's probably feeling violated. And also that it was like a million dollars. There's probably mainly also.

[Trapschapel]

Have you guys not seen Focus?

[Travis]

No. Nobody watched that movie, dude.

[Trapschapel]

What?

[Travis]

Nobody wants that movie.

[Trapschapel]

It was a good movie.

[Travis]

Nobody watched that movie, dad.

[Trapschapel]

You didn't watch that movie.

[Travis]

All right, Anyway, I wanted to ask you.

[Trapschapel]

You didn't watch that movie?

[Travis]

No.

[Trapschapel]

Don't glaze over that.

[Travis]

I've never watched that. I know. Sorry. I'm always glazing.

[Trapschapel]

Don't gloss over that.

[Travis]

Anyway, that was a good movie. I wanted to ask you, because I've never asked you this before. Have you ever been robbed?

[Trapschapel]

I have.

[Travis]

You lived in Lancaster for so many years.

[Trapschapel]

Not like that. I've never been robbed on my person. I've been scammed a couple times.

[Travis]

When were you scammed?

[Trapschapel]

Like, when. When I was younger, I used to. Like, every time a new iPhone came out, I would flip my last iPhone on ebay so I could just upgrade to the new one, essentially for free.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Trapschapel]

And there was one time I definitely got bamboozled by this guy who was buying it. He was in the. He was based in the States, but he had me ship it to his missionary friend in Africa.

[Travis]

You fool.

[Trapschapel]

Yeah, so the. When I figured out. When I figured it out, it was because I went to do a. What's that. What was it called? You go into the place?

[Travis]

Shopping Money?

[Trapschapel]

Moneygram?

[Travis]

Money laundering?

[Trapschapel]

No.

[Travis]

Oh, no. Yeah. Moneygram.

[Trapschapel]

Not really a Moneygram, but, yeah, Moneygram, I suppose. Yeah. I went into one of those places because they needed extra money for shipping. So I went. And I was like, oh, you know, I'll go in and send the money. And then the guy was like, hey, the guy saw it. He was like, this looks like fraud. You might want to check this out. And then. Yeah, I realized that my Phone was vanished into thin air. Luckily, he caught me. So I didn't pay the extra money that they're trying to get me to pay. But I was like 16 or something like that. And it was like, well, there goes 500 bucks, which is like half the money I have.

[Travis]

So we. We used to have to send money to India a lot. And so we'd wire. Like, it'd be me or the other guy, we'd wire money over. And every time I'd be in there, they'd be like, are you sure you've talked to these people? Are you sure that you've been there? And I'm like, I've literally been on the ground there. I know. And they're like, I don't know. I think you should really look into this. But I can't imagine how many people.

[Trapschapel]

I was gonna say, it's good that they do that.

[Travis]

Oh, dude. I saw a video the other day. It was like an old lady and she was like, at a crypto atm and she's like, crying on the phone. And because some guy's like, you need to send $80,000. You're going to prison or whatever. So she drained her savings account and was like, trying to send it. And this lady at the gas station called the police, and the olay wouldn't stop doing it. And so the police had to be like, stop, take a second. And like, we're trying to explain it, but she was like. She's like, you understand? They're going to arrest me. And the police are like, we're here. We're not arresting you.

[Trapschapel]

It's us.

[Travis]

Yeah, we're going to arrest you if you do this, you know? But, yeah, it's just crazy. Like, the. I can't imagine being just old and confused. And then people are like, go to this machine. And it sounds so legit.

[Trapschapel]

A friend of mine's grandpa got scammed for a good amount of money because they called them. Used my buddy's voice with AI.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Trapschapel]

And said. Said basically like, I'm in prison and I need bail money. Don't tell mom and dad or anybody else is. I'm embarrassed. And his grandpa sent the money.

[Travis]

What did g though? What?

[Trapschapel]

Oh, yeah, they sent the money.

[Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Travis]

My grandparents wrote a bailey, I'm calling right now.

[Trapschapel]

Sounds like you deserved it.

[Travis]

Anyway. So you've never been robbed physically? Like, had anything stolen? Have your house ever been broken into?

[Trapschapel]

When I was a kid, our house got broken into. Yeah.

[Travis]

What did they take?

[Trapschapel]

My mom had this curo cabinet with a bunch of just like collectibles and stuff. And my dad a bunch of silver coins in there and that's so cool.

[Travis]

That makes so much sense that he's like got a silver coin. Well, had a silver coin collection, yeah, I would say.

[Trapschapel]

But they pretty much took all of that and then immediately went and pawned it off.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Trapschapel]

But yeah, we did get broken into

[Travis]

when I was that in Lancaster. Yes, that also checks out.

[Trapschapel]

That also checks out.

[Travis]

Nothing is surprising.

[Trapschapel]

We were on the outskirts of Lancaster. So like it had to have been somebody who knew like, like an old cleaner or somebody who worked on the house or something like that because we were not in town. Like they would have. Like they work.

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[Trapschapel]

come out to our house, you know what I mean? Like on two acres, three miles outside of town. So yeah, it was. It was seemingly premeditated to some degree.

[Travis]

So yeah, I've seen some of your friends from Lancaster and they're all sketchy. Could like a suspect list is long.

[Trapschapel]

Well, to be. To be fair, a lot of people in Lancaster are sketchy.

[Travis]

So your friend.

[Trapschapel]

Yeah, my parents, you know, were constantly doing stuff in real estate and paying random contractors and you know, flooring people and roofers and a bunch of different people who would just come by the house for paychecks or whatever. So it was like maybe one of those shady characters. But yeah, we were robbed.

[Travis]

We were robbed. Were you? Yeah, last night. That's why it's fresh in my mind. That'd be crazy if I Came in here and just had robbed last three

[Trapschapel]

hours to tell me.

[Travis]

I'll wait till the third episode we recorded to drop it on you. When we lived in Beaumont, California, I'm technically still owed money from it, but I just didn't want to mess with it, you know, when, like, something happens and you're just like, I just don't want to have to send a letter to this court to contact them. They're never gonna pay it.

[Trapschapel]

So that in seven months, they'll release a check to $172.

[Travis]

It was $560, actually, I think is what it was. But I was just. I just don't want this. But we lived in an apartment, and we. The way the apartment was.

[Trapschapel]

This is when you were married or.

[Travis]

Yeah, we were married and had a child.

[Trapschapel]

Oh, wow.

[Travis]

Which is worse. So we were. We are married still and still have a child. But anyway, we were married. Had, like, a young. Young. Probably less than one, I would guess at the time. And no, probably like, two. I don't know. One or two. And so the way our apartment was is, like, we were on the upstairs floor, and then we had, like, a big sliding window, and then they had their door, and then we had. The neighbor on the other side had their door, and then we just had our door, and then this big sliding window, and that went into our bedroom. So our. It was a nice apartment. And anyway, we had, like, really nothing, but I came back from the store, and so I parked in front of the apartment, and then Tara was getting the baby out of the car, and I'm, like, unlocking the door upstairs and, like, taking a couple things in, and I walked inside. It was a total, like, brain flip. I was like, where'd you put our tv? I literally am, like, yelling down the stairs, babe, where'd you put the tv?

[Trapschapel]

What'd you do with the television?

[Travis]

Like, the entertainment center sitting there.

[Trapschapel]

You know how you typically put that in the closet?

[Travis]

Yeah. Where's the TV at? And she said, huh? Yeah. I said, the tv. Where'd you move it? You know, like an idiot. And then, like. And then my brain, like, clicked. I was like, I'm in danger. So. So then I'm, like, looking through. And then I noticed. I noticed our. So she had her wedding ring, had been in, like, this little cabinet thing and was gone.

[Trapschapel]

Bummer.

[Travis]

The. The TV was gone. And then I went in our bedroom, and the screen from our window was laying on our bed, but the window was shut, and there was handprints. At least he was Dumb too. Handprints all over the window and all this stuff. And I was like, wait a minute.

[Trapschapel]

I think.

[Travis]

I think this was not you. And so anyway, so basically we called the police. The old Jerry Seinfeldbet. We filled out the report. You know, basically like, we'll let you know if you're, you know, 25 inch TV and you're, you know, basically shows up. Yeah. And so I. I basically went full detective mode because that one thing that you're not going to do is rip me off. So anyway, so I was like. I started going through and I went into. I was like, first of all, I was like, it's my fucking neighbor. I know it. Because I didn't like him already. He's shady. Yeah. And so anyway, so I knew in my brain, but I didn't have any way to prove that. But I went to the pond. This is how smart I am. I was like, I know this guy's dumb because he touched all over my window. I bet you he went to the closest pawn shop right by.

[Trapschapel]

That's typically how it goes.

[Travis]

It was like three blocks away, there's a pawn shop. I went in and said, hey, I'm looking for a TV and a ring. And the guy said, can I just gimme one second. He goes to the back. He said, I can't give this to you because whatever. But he's like. He's like a guy that wasn't. You just sold this stuff to me. And then he showed me, he's like, is this yours? So. And then I had to buy it back, which was weird because he. Oh, I had to buy it back because he had paid for it. So I had to pay him the amount he paid for it back coverage. The dude sold everything for like 50 bucks. He sold it for so cheap. It was crazy.

[Trapschapel]

Some gas money.

[Travis]

So I got the stuff back. The police come by. The guy has video of the guy dropping the stuff off with it. It's my neighbor.

[Trapschapel]

Oh, really?

[Travis]

It is my neighbor. And he left handprints on the window, which. Martin. So here's the crazy part. Okay. I tell my apartment manager. I said, hey, just so you know, your tenant, our neighbor just robbed us. She said, I can't really do anything about it at all because he didn't. Something like. Basically like he didn't violate his police

[Trapschapel]

agreement in terms of. Yeah, so he was stealing that so he could pay rent.

[Travis]

So you could. And you could verify with Tara. I want to say it was probably five months that like, I would just see the dude he's still living next to us. He broke our window screen down and climbed over my bed and stole my stuff. And I'm, like, living next door to him.

[Trapschapel]

That's hilarious.

[Travis]

And so I called the police. Like, you know. You know how it is with cops. You keep calling, keep calling. And I literally called. I was like, if you guys need help finding him. Yeah, yeah, he lives next door.

[Trapschapel]

I happen to know where he lives.

[Travis]

So I finally called the police. This is a couple months later, and we're already, like, looking to move and all this stuff. And I was like, are you guys going to arrest this guy or what? Like, what do you guys do? And the cops. Like, the one cop I finally called was like, oh, I just looked it up. Like, they've had a warrant to arrest him since that happened.

[Trapschapel]

Crazy.

[Travis]

They just haven't done it right. And he's like, do you want me to come now? I was like, yeah, fucking come now. So anyway, so they.

[Trapschapel]

Thursday is better for me, actually.

[Travis]

Yeah. So they. So anyway, so I was kind of upset because I was in somewhere in, like, LA or somewhere shooting something, and I didn't get to be there when they arrest him. Which is, like, the one thing you want. You wanna, like. I wanna see him be like, yeah, spit on him, you know? And so Tara's, like, on the phone with me, and she's like, oh, they just pulled up. Oh, they're just. I'm like, yeah, arrest him. And then, like, he was out on bail, like, the next day, and then back in the apartment, and they're like. And I was like, hey, he's been arrested. Now can you guys evict him? Okay, so we moved. I think we moved maybe three months after they arrested him. And then they're like, you can get your $500 of damage because one of the TV, he had two TVs, and he took one of them and smashed them and then threw it in the dumpster. Anyway. They're like, you can get like, 500 bucks. Never messed with it. Here's the crazy thing. So this guy literally robbed an apartment. Breaking, entering. We moved away. I had police documents. I gave to the landlord. Like, hey, summer routines.

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[Travis]

So we moved away. We came back to visit. And I don't know if you're like this. Whenever I go back, I drive past

[Trapschapel]

all the places, go through nostalgia Lane.

[Travis]

And so I drove past our place. He's still living there.

[Trapschapel]

Crazy.

[Travis]

It's crazy. So anyway, that's my robbery story.

[Trapschapel]

So we actually had something similar.

[Travis]

Oh, but earlier you say you didn't.

[Trapschapel]

When we first got married, we were moving into our apartment for the first time, and I was taking, like, truckloads back from, you know, my bedroom growing up, and my buddy Andy was with me, and so that's who I would

[Travis]

have thought had stolen all your parents stuff.

[Eric (Producer)]

He.

[Trapschapel]

He actually got jumped when. When he. When he was like, rollerblading. Rollerblading through Lancaster, you know what jumped him and stole his Walkman.

[Travis]

Understandable.

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[Travis]

You're rollerblading, you're gonna get Lancaster.

[Trapschapel]

But anyway, he drove to the apartment and was helping me, right? So we're taking loads back with the truck, and so he parked his car at the apartment. So we're driving the truck by the apartment, and we're like, driving by, and we're like. I was like, is that your car? And there's these two 80s. One of them is, like, all the way in the car, like, knees on the passenger seat, ass out the window. Like her head is on the driver's seat, like she's fully in the car. And the other one's standing right next to her on lookout, essentially. And so Andy jumps out of the car and, like, runs over or jumps out of the truck, runs over to his car, was like, what are you doing? And then they had this excuse about, like, well, we. This car has been here for a long time, and it's not supposed to be parked here. So we were just trying to see who owned it so that we could get it back to them or whatever that Samaritans. It's been here for, like, three hours. What are you talking about? This is crazy. They lived in the apartment two doors down from us. So they were just neighbors of ours

[Travis]

for the next, like, walking in the neighborhood.

[Trapschapel]

Yeah, exactly. It was. It was wild because we were getting attacked. They started, like, turning the tables on us and calling us, like, rude and all these other things and saying that we were racist because we were upset

[Travis]

at them for being inside of the car.

[Trapschapel]

And they stole stuff from his car. It was nothing, but they stole stuff. They took all the electronics that he had in his car. There was like a pack of Gatorade that they took. And just like you literally were robbing my friend in broad daylight the day that we're moving into the apartment right next door to you. Like, this is going to be a fun relationship.

[Travis]

Well, what's funny is I had had because we had like a outdoor parking lot, obviously to the apartment. And like a few months before that, I thought I had lost one of my credit cards. Cause I got all these weird charges. And I was retroactively like, oh, he went in the car and grabbed my credit card and used it. And then I had to change up a big full change jar in there. And I was like, it feels like it keeps getting lighter, but it's just like, again, you just assume like, oh, I lost something. I did this. And then after that happened, I was like, oh, that's the source of all my problems. You know, he also dinged our car too, and scratched left red paint on it. It was just a great time. They're leasing that apartment I was in if anybody wants that. Here's one last crazy story. Robbery story. I was in New Mexico with mutual friend of ours who does real estate investing. And we parked outside and okay, well, this was a very innocent thing for us. So we drive by and there's a car on. There's a car sitting there, and it's kind of like jacked up a little bit. And then there was like a older and younger ish guys. And I literally was like, oh, that's nice. I was like, he's helping him fix his car. And so we drive by and then we come back, it's on blocks with no. No tires, no anything, stripped clean. And I was like, dude, we just watched a crime. We're literally like, hey, like, it's a father son duo, you know? So it was so funny because we literally went from one. It was a super rough apartment complex.

[Trapschapel]

Oh, man.

[Travis]

We literally drive by and I'm like, oh, that's nice. Like you said, literally said, oh, well, that's nice. Like I'm from the Midwest going like, oh, look at that. And then we drive back that way. It's on blocks. No tires, no thing. And I was like, we could have stopped a crime. Yeah, but also we probably would have been shot, so it's good. Or stabbed with a needle.

[Trapschapel]

Exactly.

[Travis]

That was the Same apartment that had a. There was a window and it had a cutout in the screen. He's like, oh, people drive up and someone hands them drugs through the window. I was like, sweet. What time are they.

[Trapschapel]

Are they open?

[Travis]

Just kidding. I don't do drugs. If I did, I wouldn't tell you.

[Trapschapel]

Crazy. No.

[Travis]

Anyway, yeah, don't do drugs and drive.

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Or.

[Eric (Producer)]

Yeah.

[Travis]

Or don't do drugs. Yeah, don't do drugs.

[Trapschapel]

Probably just the.

[Travis]

But if you're going to do drugs, do it in the safety of your own home.

[Trapschapel]

Yeah.

[Travis]

And don't drive and just don't do it.

[Trapschapel]

And don't get robbed, I think.

[Travis]

Don't get robbed. I don't know.

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I.

[Travis]

Honestly, I just. I was. I saw Grant's video and I was like, I wonder if Travis has ever been robbed. Robbed. Because that's not a good way to keep your money. It is not to be robbed.

[Trapschapel]

No, no. Unfortunately, you know, I. AI has been useful for me in that regard because, you know, like, you get these random texts or calls from people that are like, it's like a toll road or something, or an attorney, and it's just like, oh, you have to go to this thing and enter your information. And like, there's been a couple times where it looked really legit.

[Travis]

And so the toll road ones, some of them I'm like, I was just in Tennessee.

[Trapschapel]

Right, Exactly.

[Travis]

But I don't think I passed any Torah.

[Trapschapel]

So now my rule of thumb is anytime I get a message like that, I copy paste it into ChatGPT or something like that and ask it, you know, like, does this seem legit to you? And we'll always break it down and be like, nope, this is a red flag. This is a red flag. This is a red flag.

[Travis]

That's great. Till.

[Trapschapel]

Or there's been one time where it was like, this is actually from this person.

[Travis]

It's great. Till it's wrong. And then you send jail. Or. Yeah, you don't send the money. And then you're like, you didn't pay your toll for years.

[Trapschapel]

There's a warrant for your arrest in California.

[Travis]

Yeah, whatever. We're not going back there.

[Trapschapel]

Yeah, screw that place.

[Travis]

Not ever since Spencer Pratt's not in the run anymore, I'm never going back.

[Trapschapel]

Totally. Except for, like, next week. I'll probably go back.

[Travis]

Yeah, next week. Really?

[Trapschapel]

Yeah, I think two weeks. I'll go in San Diego. Okay.

[Travis]

Fun. Okay, cool.

[Trapschapel]

Anyway. Anyway, if you have any. If you have any fun robbery stories, share them with me on Instagram at Trapschapel and we'll talk about on a future episode. That's it for this episode of the show. If you're going to go to F1 in Miami, just, you know, don't wear your million dollar watches. And remember, money only solves your money problems. But it's easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank. So let's start there here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Catch you next time. Peace.

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