CO-HOST | Make Money by Avoiding the Small Spending Habits That Keep You Broke

Summary

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Travis Makes Money – Episode Summary

Podcast: Travis Makes Money
Host: Travis Chappell
Co-Host: Producer Eric
Episode: Make Money by Avoiding the Small Spending Habits That Keep You Broke
Date: July 3, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the controversial idea that small, everyday spending habits—like eating out regularly—can quietly sabotage financial progress, especially for young people. Travis and Producer Eric dig into recent social media debate around comments by financial personalities Kevin O’Leary and Caleb Hammer, exploring generational attitudes toward spending, the culture of victimhood, and balancing enjoyment with responsible money management. The discussion emphasizes practical strategies and mindsets to escape paycheck-to-paycheck living, while sharing candid personal anecdotes about spending, dieting, and habits.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Death by 1,000 Cuts” of Small Spending

[03:06] – [04:47]

• Caleb Hammer (via clip and paraphrase):

  “Young people are broke because they spend 28 hours going out to eat... it’s the death of a thousand cuts. Yes, just $28 three times a week becomes an actual halfway decent retirement fund.” [03:06]

• Travis and Eric joke about calculators, showing how easy it is for small amounts to become hundreds per month—money that could be invested.

Notable Quotes:

• “Meal prep, meal plan, this is what everyone’s done since forever.” – Caleb Hammer [03:51]
• “Why is it just now that people feel like they should just be able to eat out for every meal?... That’s not something that’s ever really been done at scale.” – Travis [04:09]

2. Generational Attitudes & Entitlement

[04:47] – [06:14]

• Eric contrasts today’s dissatisfaction with jobs and lifestyle to the past where “starter homes were tiny and jobs were hard,” but people accepted tradeoffs.
• The hosts call out a perceived sense of entitlement among younger people regarding new cars, expensive meals, and luxury purchases as needs.

Notable Quotes:

• “They think if they don’t get a 2027 brand new car instead of a 2025 car that they’re gonna die.” – Eric [05:24]

3. The Critique of “Victimhood Culture”

[06:14] – [09:47]

• Travis connects overspending to a broader reluctance to accept life’s tradeoffs and a culture of complaining.
• He emphasizes that eating out or other spending isn’t the sole issue—it’s the cumulative effect and mindset.
• Major insight: Prioritization is essential—essentials before luxuries.

Notable Quotes:

• “If you are the type of person who constantly thinks you deserve this type of a life for no reason other than the fact you went to college and have a job, then you’re probably also the type of person who’s making multiple financial blunders.” – Travis [07:44]
• “We have such a great life and so many opportunities... Yet the MO seems to be let’s look at all the things that are terrible and complain about them.” – Travis [09:12]

4. Modern Environment: Designed for Overspending

[10:28] – [12:00]

• Eric points out “everything is calling for you to spend money.” Even simple outings are full of costly add-ons (e.g., movie theaters, comedy clubs).
• Travis notes how normal outings can balloon into expensive experiences if you say yes to the extras.

Notable Quotes:

• “It does feel like when you go out, everything is calling for you to spend money, do things.” – Eric [10:28]
• “That was a $200 movie.” – Travis [11:22]

5. The Necessity of Sacrifice and Trade-Offs

[12:00] – [13:46]

• Travis underscores that financial prosperity always requires sacrifice, either by cutting costs or using spare time to boost income.
• He uses nutrition and weight loss as analogous to budgeting, both require discipline amid temptation.

Notable Quotes:

• “Having a financially prosperous life requires some version of sacrifice.” – Travis [12:17]
• “You get to choose. These are all trade-offs—but what’s frustrating is the complaints from people who don’t want to choose.” – Travis [12:27]

6. Accountability: The Power of Tracking Your Spending (and Calories)

[13:46] – [19:29]

• Both hosts empathize with how easy it is to let small expenses snowball when you don’t track them.
• Eric shares stories about discovering the caloric cost of his favorite snacks (saltine crackers and cream cheese), relating it back to financial habits—“tracking makes you aware.”
• Travis and Eric swap stories about accidental overindulgence, both dietary and financial, highlighting how awareness creates better habits.

Notable Quotes:

• “You ever seen, like, a line item on your budget or something that you’re like, no way—we spent that much money doing that?” – Travis [15:57]
• “When you start tracking how much, you notice. Same with money, too.” – Eric [15:39]

7. Humor & Personal Anecdotes: Dieting/Snacking as a Spending Metaphor

[13:46] – [21:10]

• Extended playful discussion about portion sizes (crackers, goldfish, acai bowls).
• Both hosts admit to dietary and spending weaknesses.
• Eric: “Cream cheese and crackers is great... but I noticed it was killing me [calorie-wise].” [18:21]
• Travis: “If you want to maintain being healthy, you’re just going to have to learn to navigate all the barrage of marketing telling you to buy snacks.” [13:46]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “Podception. Does that mean the podcast can’t get pregnant?” – Eric, joking about podcasts discussing other podcasts [01:50]
• “Get the victimhood out of the neighborhood.” – Eric, mock campaign slogan [06:14]
• “Money only solves your money problems, but it’s easier to solve the rest of your problems when you’ve got some money in the bank. So let’s start there.” – Travis (Closing Remark) [22:12]
• Singing the “Sardines and Saltines” jingle, reminiscing about old children’s songs as a metaphor for cheap habits [21:36]

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Important Timestamps

• [03:06] – Discussion of Caleb Hammer’s take on “death by a thousand cuts”
• [04:09] – Travis on the normalization of eating out
• [05:24] – Eric on generational entitlement and car buying
• [07:44] – Travis critiques entitlement and “deserving” without effort
• [09:12] – Travis on society’s focus on complaints
• [10:28] – Eric: “Everything is calling for you to spend money.”
• [12:17] – Travis: “Financial prosperity requires sacrifice.”
• [13:46] – Money/diet discipline analogy
• [15:39] – Eric: “When you start tracking how much, you notice. Same with money, too.”
• [18:21] – Food tracking reveals hidden costs
• [22:12] – Travis’s closing advice: Start by solving your money problems

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Tone & Style

Lively, unscripted, conversational, with humor and frequent pop culture references. Travis and Eric openly poke fun at themselves and each other, using personal stories to bridge abstract concepts with relatable situations. The episode blends practical money advice with everyday observations, encouraging listeners to both enjoy life and exercise purposeful discipline.

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Practical Takeaways

• Meal prepping and planning are still the most cost-effective ways to eat.
• Small spending habits add up—track where your money actually goes.
• Resist victimhood mentality: focus on the choices, trade-offs, and opportunities in your control.
• Sacrifice is inevitable: either through conscious budgeting or by finding ways to earn more.
• Modern life is full of spending traps: recognize and manage temptations, just like dieting.

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This episode is for anyone tired of being told to “skip the latte” but still frustrated by a lack of financial progress. Travis and Eric advocate awareness, intentionality, and, above all, choosing your tradeoffs with eyes wide open.

Transcript

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[Eric]

I oh, let's go.

[Travis]

I oh, let's go. You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast, where it's a mission to help you make more money on this episode of the show. My producer Eric is here in studio. What's up, man?

[Producer Eric]

Oh, my back hurts.

[Travis]

Yeah. Why is that?

[Producer Eric]

Always does.

[Travis]

You're just in your 30s now.

[Producer Eric]

No, my back always. No, I, I. It hurts all the time.

[Travis]

Such a boomer.

[Producer Eric]

I don't know why. I don't know if it's from. Because I used to, like, carry so much luggage around for filming or what or I don't know. But I just like this chair right now is killing me.

[Travis]

That's the good chair. I know, but it's also got ergonomic.

[Producer Eric]

I love that. You're good chair for me. Has a hole in it in the bottom. My thigh is slipping through.

[Travis]

It's a great chair.

[Producer Eric]

Anyway. All right, well, you mentioned our last episode, something we talked about in an episode before that. And you were talking about Kevin o'. Leary.

[Travis]

Oh, yeah.

[Producer Eric]

He was talking about don't go get lunch for $30. He's making $70,000 a year.

[Travis]

Those are good impressions.

[Producer Eric]

Kevin always talks. But Caleb Hammer was on Joe Rogan, which we also talked about recently. And wouldn't you know it, Worlds collide. Caleb Hammer talked about Kevin o' Leary talking about Gen Z. We're in the middle on Joe Rogan and we talked about that.

[Travis]

We're in the middle of pod ception right now.

[Producer Eric]

Pod ception. Does that mean the podcast can't get pregnant?

[Travis]

A reaction to a reaction to a reaction.

[Producer Eric]

Pod ception.

[Travis]

Yeah, like Inception. Getting pregnant like the movie.

[Producer Eric]

I was making a joke.

[Travis]

I know. It was a bad joke.

[Producer Eric]

Conception.

[Travis]

That's why I just moved past it.

[Producer Eric]

Conception with professionalism. All right, well, here we go. Here's what Caleb Hammer of the popular podcast Hammer Hour. What is his podcast called?

[Travis]

The Caleb Hammer Show. I don't know.

[Producer Eric]

I don't know. But Anyway, here's his take on Kevin o'. Leary. Okay, you hear that?

[Travis]

This is really good so far.

[Producer Eric]

Hold on.

[Eric]

Actually, that was another thing that triggered the Internet. I kind of agreed with Kevin o' Leary when it said, oh, young people are broke because they spend 28 hours going out to eat.

[Producer Eric]

Is that better than mine?

[Travis]

I thought it was a little bit better than yours. Yeah, there's a little high pitch.

[Producer Eric]

His is always like, young people are always doing this. He always says it like very like Kevin o'.

[Travis]

Leary.

[Producer Eric]

Can you believe it? It's very like young people are spending. That's Jerry Sample.

[Travis]

Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like he.

[Producer Eric]

What's the deal with Gen Z?

[Travis]

He actually keeps it really low, like in low. Like a lower register. Just kind of. It's always like a fact.

[Producer Eric]

It's always like a fanny.

[Travis]

Like, I don't believe it. Don't do that.

[Producer Eric]

That's not it. I can't do that. Sounds like a dejected Trump.

[Travis]

Do that.

[Producer Eric]

Don't do that. That was the Godfather. Okay, this is Caleb.

[Eric]

Well, actually, that was another thing that triggered the Internet. I kind of agreed with Kevin o' Leary when it said, oh, young people are broke because they spent 28 hours going out to eat. Well, it's not that specific, but it's the death of a small of a thousand cuts. And yes, just $28 three times a week becomes an actual halfway decent retirement fund.

[Producer Eric]

What is that? $28 three times a week. Do the math. Quick read math.

[Travis]

90 bucks and it's 84.

[Producer Eric]

28 times three is 84. And then what is that times four?

[Travis]

Three. 32.

[Producer Eric]

No, you fool. 336. 84 times four. What's four times four? 16. I know that.

[Travis]

Good job.

[Eric]

You put it in the s and P500 for a few times a week. That does put off future goals that you have. And the Internet went crazy against me. They hated me for suggesting that. That they shouldn't be able to. They're like, well, how do we eat groceries? Meal prep, meal plan. This is what everyone's done since forever.

[Travis]

Yeah, that was the part of his take that I agreed with that. It's like, why, why is it just now that people feel like they should just be able to eat out for every meal? Like, that's just. That's literally never been done. That's not something.

[Producer Eric]

It's always been Sunday afternoon.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Producer Eric]

Like it's our eating out day growing up.

[Sports Commentator]

Yeah.

[Travis]

Eating out was like an occasion. It was like a thing. It was a special event to go eat out. You know what I mean? Now it's, it's just like, you think that that's just something that you get to do. I. I just don't. I don't know where that came from. But, yeah, grocery shopping and making meals and meal planning and meal prepp the MO for quite some time.

[Eric]

Best period ever for humans. Best period ever. Our jobs are better. Everything's better. Even when you think of, like, buying the starter home in the 50s and whatever, you know, they were like the size of this room that we're in right now, mass produced. Okay, that's still a home. That's great you could buy. But you were going to a job that you hated, that you were sweating, that had no AC where you're working with your hands all day, and it was miserable. They didn't like the jobs, they liked that they had a good paying job. But now people go to the office and they think they're a victim for not being able to meal prep before going to the office. The A C office. Like, it's hard for me to sympathize with that. Especially when I film three of them a week. All 100% real people, mostly Gen Z and millennials, who are absolute victims in everything. They are victims in everything. They think if they don't get a 2027 brand new car instead of a 2025 car that they're gonna die. That all of a sudden, cars two years ago were the most dangerous things. They have to get a seat of 70,000, do car loan at a 20% interest rate or else their kids will die.

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[Producer Eric]

What's your podcast about again?

[Travis]

You talk to people. So anyway. Aliens. Yeah, anyway, but that, that, that was more. My broader agreement with the sentiment was just like, we don't need, we don't need any more, like, victimhood injected into culture. And like, what are you saying right there? I agree with a lot of that.

[Producer Eric]

That new campaign slogan, get the victimhood out of the neighborhood.

[Travis]

Okay. Travis Chapel, Mayor, I'm not running for any offices.

[Producer Eric]

That would be really fun.

[Travis]

360 would not be really fun. I disagree. I think it'd be a nightmare if you had to run for political office.

[Producer Eric]

Hold on really quick. If you had to run for office, what would you run for?

[Travis]

That's a wild.

[Producer Eric]

Like, would you want to be. Would you want to be like a super low level, like, I'm on the city council, or would you want to be like, I'm the mayor of Las Vegas?

[Travis]

No, I Wouldn't want to do anything local.

[Producer Eric]

You'd want to do. Oh, okay.

[Travis]

So you want to go big congressman or something?

[Producer Eric]

Okay. Do you think you could do it? If you put your heart to it. Do you think you could become a congressman in the next three years? I challenge you to do it.

[Travis]

No, no, no, no. Five years, maybe ten.

[Producer Eric]

Ten years?

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Producer Eric]

I challenge you in ten years to become a congressman.

[Travis]

I don't want to at all.

[Producer Eric]

Okay.

[Travis]

But I think. But I feel like. Anyway, back to pass to it, you know, if you really wanted to do it.

[Producer Eric]

Back to what you're saying.

[Travis]

I don't even remember what I was saying now, but.

[Producer Eric]

Okay, we'll pivot. So to become a congressman, you gotta go to this island. Okay. You gotta get in really good with these upper echelon of people, and then you get to get a lot of dirt on you. And then basically, you will do whatever they tell you to do or also release the dirt. And then you can be in the highest position of power, which is why

[Travis]

I would never, ever do anything.

[Producer Eric]

Or that's the only reason you wouldn't go to the island.

[Travis]

Somebody's gonna play this clip when I run for Congress one day. Or he said he would never do it.

[Producer Eric]

You could be just 100,000 years old, and then you automatically get grandfathered in, literally, to Congress. Okay, that's what I read.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Producer Eric]

Anyway, you were saying about Caleb Hammer or something.

[Travis]

Yeah, I was saying something about Regalis. Oh, oh, the. The victimhood thing. That. That was the big thing that I felt that I agreed with with Caleb and Kevin o' Leary's take on this for. Was just that if. If you. If that is the type of person that you are, like what he was saying, it's death by a thousand cuts. That's. That one thing is not the thing that's going to, you know, prevent you from getting ahead. Yeah. But if you are the type of person who constantly thinks that you deserve this type of a life for no reason other than the fact that you went to college and have a job, then you're probably also the type of person who's making multiple financial blunders across your entire monthly budget, which does 100% affect your ability to have a good financial future. And it's. Again, it's not like you have to fast for lunch every day or never ever eat out. It's just be smarter about it. Put like, that's. That's the whole idea of a budget. Like, there's no way your budget can afford $30 for lunch. Five days a week. Like you can't if you're, if you're not making much money. Like it just, it doesn't work in the budget, doesn't work in the numbers. You prioritize your living expenses, maybe, maybe you have a car payment, hopefully you don't. But let's say you do. Like you have your health insurance and you have, you know, the things that are the essentials. And then you have eating out, which is not an essential. Groceries are an essential, but eating out is not an essential. Like going to a restaurant is not an essential. You don't have to do that to be able to have sustenance and nutrition on a daily basis. So yeah, the weird entitlement of the, like all past generations had it so much better than we have it. And like that, that's the sentiment that gets old to me after a while because it's like that's just objectively false. We have such a great life and we have so many opportunities at our fingertips and knowledge is ubiquit and we have so many things that we could look at and choose to be grateful for. Yet the MO seems to be let's look at all the things that are terrible and complain about them instead of looking at the things that are great and being thankful for them.

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[Producer Eric]

I sent you a post. Or I, maybe I didn't. I was gonna send you a post and it was a picture. It was like me. It was a guy standing in his house with his hands in his pockets and he was like me staying inside because if I leave my house I have to spend $200. And I was gonna say like, the one thing is, what was the other clip we watched where somebody said the biggest corporations on the planet right now are just working on spending all their time and money to get you to click on more things or buy more things. But I think that's the biggest thing now is it does feel like when you go out, everything is calling for you to spend money, do things. It's like, even when you go, it's difficult. Even when you go, Like I gave on another episode, the movie theater example. It's like, we're gonna put in a photo booth. We're gonna do this. And it's like, if you do all of those distractions, then you're going to go, where's my money at the end of the month?

[Travis]

Well, that was a $200 movie.

[Producer Eric]

Yeah. Or if you go out to dinner and it's like, oh, would you like this? You go out to a comedy club and, like, would you like the souvenir cup? Yes, I would.

[Travis]

And I would also leave it at the bar.

[Producer Eric]

I can't believe that we should do, like, some kind of, like, segment or something to get Brad to see it, to see that I left my cup. And then, like, and then I'll come on the podcast and be like, here, I brought you a cup.

[Travis]

That seems like way more work than just going back to the comedy club, getting a collector's cup again.

[Producer Eric]

But I have to buy another.

[Travis]

It came with the drink.

[Producer Eric]

I know.

[Travis]

That was the whole. That was the whole reason.

[Producer Eric]

See what he wants me to do. You want me to go out and spend money on drinks and his show. Fair enough. Fair enough there, partner.

[Travis]

Yeah, that is true. But I mean, but I. Prosperity is difficult. I hate to break it to you, you know what I mean? Like, you're.

[Producer Eric]

That could be your difficult. That can be your second campaign.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Producer Eric]

Hey, guys. Sorry things are so difficult. Hope you enjoy prosperity.

[Travis]

Yeah. Like, having a financially prosperous life requires some version of sacrifice.

[Producer Eric]

Whether it sucks, dude.

[Travis]

Whether it's sacrifice in your budget and the things that you can afford because you choose not to use your extra time to make extra money. That's sacrifice. Or it's. You use all your spare time to learn how to make extra money so that it doesn't feel like a burden to go out and go to a comedy show or go to a movie theater. You know what I mean? Like, you. You get. You get to choose. Like, these are all trade offs that you get to choose. But what's frustrating or annoying sometimes is the complaints that come from people who just don't want to choose. You know what I mean? Like, they're like, I want all of those things and none of the sacrifice. And it's like, that's not how abundance works. Like, you. You're just gonna have to make some difficult decisions. That's why I love the example of like, weight loss and nutrition and stuff like that, because it's a perfect siloed example of what we're talking about. It's like it is very difficult to leave the house and not be tempted to buy delicious food and treats and snacks and desserts and all this stuff. You know, when you're hungry, it's. It's difficult to go to the grocery store when you're hungry and not put all the chips in the chip aisle in your bag or get some Lucky Charms or something like that. It's difficult to do that. But if you want to maintain, you know, some version of being in healthy or good shape for some extended period of time, you're just going to learn to have to navigate all of the barrage of marketing messages that you receive to go buy more food.

[Producer Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

And figure out a way to not do that. Like, or just be fat and be okay with that. But then to sit and complain about being fat when you're making decisions to that you know, are going to add to your weight rather than subtract from it like that. That's where I just. I stop having time for it. When. When the, when the. When all you want to do is complain. There's no other version. There's no, you know, and then the complaint is always allows you to sit in the victimhood chair and then point the finger at all of the rest of everybody else and how it's everybody else's fault. And if. If we were just. If we were just born in a different time, if we just had this thing available to us or if we. If I grew up in a different household or if I went to a different college or if I went. You know what I mean? It's like I would have been set up like this. It's like, okay, maybe, maybe not. Who knows? Either way, that's not the situation that you're in. So you got the hand. You got dealt the hand. Figure out how to play it or don't and be okay with whatever life throws at you. But don't. Don't choose to not play the hand and then just continue complaining about everything when you're opting out of the game.

[Producer Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

You know what I mean? Like, that's. That's just super. Superfluous. Like, it doesn't.

[Producer Eric]

It's what?

[Travis]

Superfluous.

[Producer Eric]

Want to try that again?

[Travis]

Super.

[Producer Eric]

It's a remix

[Sponsor Voice]

is.

[Travis]

It is a useless activity. It does nothing for you except for piss off everybody around you and make you not fun to hang out with.

[Producer Eric]

Yeah, I stuttered through an article for the whole last episode, and then you stuttered once. That's how it was.

[Travis]

And I didn't say one thing.

[Producer Eric]

You didn't say one thing. You just said a lot of stuff.

[Travis]

I said I didn't say one thing. When you were stumbling through that article.

[Producer Eric]

Oh, you looked at me kind of

[Travis]

like, no, you were making fun of yourself. And I went, that's rude. Yeah, well, I let you have blunders.

[Producer Eric]

No, it is when you. When you start, like, you say with the calories and stuff or with food, it is crazy. When you start tracking how much, you notice. Yeah, you know, same with money, too. It's like when you start. When you, like, start going through doordash, you're like, okay, that plus that. I'm gonna close that. I'm not gonna look at that. That's very bad.

[Travis]

You ever seen, like, a line item on your budget or something that you're like, no way. We spent that much money doing that. And then you go back and start looking at your charges, and you're like, yeah, okay.

[Producer Eric]

Or when you get the alert from, like, your, like, whatever app you use, and it's like, you spent $3,000 your last three months on this category, and you're like, how.

[Sponsor Voice]

What?

[Producer Eric]

3,000, huh? I didn't spend $3,000 total across everything.

[Travis]

I just got toothbrushes on Amazon. And you pull it up and go like, oh, yeah.

[Producer Eric]

You know what absolutely killed me about when I started tracking my calories? What is one of my favorite snacks on the planet is chai tea latte from Starbucks. No. One of my favorite things ever is salting crackers. That's so old, huh?

[Travis]

That is super old.

[Producer Eric]

Yeah, it's salting crackers, and I like to get cream cheese, and I put the cream cheese on the cracker. It's so good.

[Travis]

Interesting.

[Producer Eric]

Don't start. Don't start down that road. It'll take you further than you want to go.

[Travis]

Saying, this is a bad idea. Don't do this.

[Producer Eric]

Yeah, but then I started tracking calories. I was like, I'm gonna have some cream cheese and crackers. And then I looked five saltine crackers. Guess how many calories it is. And that's a serving size, by the way.

[Travis]

I'm assuming it's a calorie, which is crazy.

[Producer Eric]

Whenever you look at chips or crackers and it's, like, serving size 5, and you think about how many chips you eat, if you start eating chips, okay, five crackers. Guess how many calories. You're gonna do the thing where you guess way too high, and then you're like, oh, that's not that bad.

[Travis]

200.

[Producer Eric]

No, 70 calories.

[Travis]

Oh, okay.

[Producer Eric]

That's a lot, though.

[Travis]

You were making it seem like it was a lot.

[Producer Eric]

Okay, listen, if you haven't ever counted calories, that's an educated guess from someone who's been count calories. Imagine you don't know, and you're just like, crackers are small and thin.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Producer Eric]

And you're.

[Travis]

That's. My point is like, I. That would have been my thought originally, but you were making it.

[Producer Eric]

Can I tell you, though, what I would do a couple times a month?

[Travis]

What's that?

[Producer Eric]

I would get a sleeve of saltine crackers and eat the whole sleeve.

[Travis]

The cream cheese is the killer.

[Producer Eric]

The cream cheese kills. And that has, like, 280 calories in a serving.

[Travis]

Serving, which is like a tablespoon.

[Producer Eric]

I could crush half a block of cream cheese with crackers. Because you sit there, you watch a movie, you have a little soda, and then.

[Travis]

So good.

[Producer Eric]

You should try that, though. Cream cheese and crackers. No, no. But it's so good.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Producer Eric]

And if you want to get crazy, you can do a little dab of, like, hot sauce on top. Some people. My mom does olives. Like, a little olive on. Dude, do you have crackers?

[Travis]

So hungry.

[Sponsor Voice]

No.

[Producer Eric]

Cream cheese and crackers is great.

[Travis]

A little wine with that, too.

[Producer Eric]

But. But it was stuff like that, though. I noticed. I was like, oh, God, it's killing me.

[Travis]

Yeah, it's killing. Wait, so what's a. How much. So you eat the whole sleeve of crackers.

[Producer Eric]

Okay, listen, I don't like how you say it. Yeah, yeah. But the thing is, you just sit there with the cream cheese and you just like.

[Travis]

I know what you mean. It doesn't feel like it's that much.

[Producer Eric]

It's like when you're eating chips and dip and you're like, hey, where'd all the lays go?

[Travis]

Right.

[Producer Eric]

It's easy to eat a whole bag of chips.

[Travis]

It was definitely my kids that ate all of these. And your wife's like, yeah, but that was up in the top of the pantry. That was all you. And then you're like, oh, no.

[Producer Eric]

My go to now for, like, if I want, like, a snack is goldfish. Oh, the serving is crazy. It was like, 30. It was like. Or it was 51 goldfish.

[Travis]

51 is a single serving.

[Producer Eric]

Goldfish serving. Oh, no, no, no. I've been eating wrong. No, I'm just kidding.

[Travis]

It's 12.

[Producer Eric]

No. Oh, yeah. 55 Goldfish crackers is a serving.

[Sports Commentator]

Wow.

[Producer Eric]

And it's 140 calories.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Producer Eric]

So when I.

[Sports Commentator]

Okay.

[Producer Eric]

Goldfish. Yeah. So I'll literally be like, if I want that, I'll just. It's 3 grams of protein. So if you do 20 servings, you're at your protein.

[Travis]

It's a really efficient way to protein.

[Producer Eric]

But goldfish have been great. And then I do the goldfish diet. Dude, the Frank's Red Hot goldfish are so good. Oh, my God, I'm getting hungry.

[Travis]

And the red hot doesn't add any additional calories either.

[Producer Eric]

Nope. Dude, that's also great. Is just the protein cups from chipotle with a little hot sauce.

[Travis]

Yeah. Hot sauce is a hack because it gives flavor to the food without adding any calories, of course. The check.

[Producer Eric]

Same with mustard.

[Travis]

Same with mustard.

[Producer Eric]

I love mustard, dude. But also, it's not that serious. Where I'm gonna be like, I'm not gonna have ketchup because the extra calories kill me.

[Travis]

Yeah. I told. I told Jackie that the other day, because I've been doing the. The little tuna cans and yucky. But if you put mustard. If you like mustard, and you put the mustard on the tuna, it's like, I'm mostly tasting mustard on this.

[Producer Eric]

I just don't like fish.

[Travis]

Yeah. I don't know. You might like it.

[Producer Eric]

No.

[Travis]

If you put it on a Saltine. No saltine. A little bit of tuna, some mustard. But anyway, I asked Jackie the other day. I was like, hey, next time you go to the store, can you grab some, like, hamburger pickle chips? And she was like, you are literally making a cocktail of the worst foods on the planet for me, because these, like, all three. She hates mustard, she hates pickles, and she hates, like, canned tuna. She was like, this sounds like the most disgusting invention ever. But in my mind, it was like, this sounds like a tuna sandwich, you know, in a cup. The hardest thing I have, pickles and mustard are both zero calories.

[Producer Eric]

Is saying no to acai bowls. Yeah, that's really hard.

[Travis]

I agree.

[Producer Eric]

It's really hard because they are so good.

[Travis]

When I. When we bought the store, I was like, I'm gonna be in here at least three days a week grabbing a free bowl.

[Producer Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

And then now it's like, I can't afford the calories. I can't do it.

[Producer Eric]

You know what I think of?

[Travis]

Unless I went on, like, a crazy run or, like, after a day of basketball or something, it's like, okay, I can go eat one of those because I need the. Need the carbs.

[Producer Eric]

Well, this is. As we close out. I don't know about you, but this is what I think about every time I eat or I hear about saltines or I eat saltines. Do you know what it is? I just love sardines. Sardines are the food of perfection. With vitamins, minerals and.

[Sports Commentator]

Or.

[Travis]

Sardines and saltines. Sardines and saltines.

[Producer Eric]

The more that I eat them, the better they seem.

[Travis]

Yeah, but you don't put sardines on yours, bro.

[Producer Eric]

That's Patch the Pirate, bro.

[Travis]

Is that Patch the Pirate?

[Producer Eric]

Yep.

[Travis]

Really?

[Producer Eric]

Sardines and saltines. Sardines and saltines. The more that you eat them, the better they seem. I've never heard that disgusting. Actually.

[Travis]

Yeah, I'm not a big sardines fan. Compared to tuna, I'd rather have tuna than sardines.

[Producer Eric]

Okay. Big tuna.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Producer Eric]

I don't know. My voice cracked. Okay, that was not on purpose. All right, close us out.

[Travis]

All right, well, that's it for this episode of the show. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems when you got some money in the bank. So let's start there. Here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Catch you next time. Peace.

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