CO-HOST | Make Money by Building a Skill That Pays You Forever

Summary

Podcast Summary: Travis Makes Money

Episode: CO-HOST | Make Money by Building a Skill That Pays You Forever
Host: Travis Chappell
Co-Host: Eric (Producer)
Release Date: July 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on the importance of building skills that empower lifelong earning potential—emphasizing that you can't save your way to a dream life in today's world. Travis and Eric break down why cultivating high-value, in-demand abilities (instead of solely relying on frugality or financial luck) is the most reliable path to financial freedom and the confidence to take risks. The episode weaves in lessons from a Jason Bateman podcast clip, the unique mindset shifts of high earners, and practical advice for listeners seeking to nurture that essential "money-making muscle."

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Humor, Banter, and Setting the Tone

• Loose intro with jokes about weight loss and self-awareness:
  • [00:48] Eric jokes about the insincerity of Travis's intro and his noticeable weight loss.
  • Sets a relaxed, conversational tone before transitioning to the episode’s topic.

2. Jason Bateman on Money, Pressure, and Mindset

• Clip from Jason Bateman’s interview on the 'Good One' podcast discussed by Eric and Travis [02:56–04:20].

  • Jason shares how growing up as a child actor—with parents as managers—created immense pressure: maintain grades for work permits, family finances relying on his income, and renewal pressures every six months.
  • Significant insight:

    “There was a great deal of pressure to kind of, you know, like, don't get fired... But as anxiety inducing as that was, there was also this early muscle that I kind of developed where I knew I could generate money.” — Jason Bateman [03:01]

  • Contrasts those who inherit wealth (often fearful with money) versus those who understand their own ability to earn and replace it.

• Travis and Eric unpack this

  • [04:20–05:10] Eric notes Bateman’s story is the "antithesis" of the stereotype that wealthy people are carefree with money.
  • Travis agrees, relating it to personal agency:

    “If you want to be successful in any field, you gotta follow the money... That will guide you to a more successful career.” — Travis [05:16]

  • Both highlight the idea of having a “relationship” with money, not just seeing it as a lifeless asset.

3. The Importance of Viewing Money as a Relationship

• [05:10–07:43] Travis elaborates on why changing language changes attitudes:
  • Treating money as a relationship (rather than an object) results in greater respect, intention, and growth.
  • Many people have an "abusive relationship" with money:

    “If you treat it like an object, it will treat you like an object... I think that describes a lot of people’s relationship with money, is that it’s an abusive relationship and they’re shocked why money seems to leave their bank account all the time... Money is a tool, and you can use that tool to do damage or build an amazing life.” — Travis [06:36 and 06:48]

  • Cites Bateman as someone who succeeded because he built a positive, intentional relationship with money despite the pressure of child stardom.

4. Child Stars, Pressure, and Social Media

• A wider discussion emerges on child stars and online safety [08:33–14:56]
  • Eric and Travis cite examples from Hollywood (Josh Peck, Hilary Duff) and discuss challenges facing young creators and influencers.
  • Travis on parenting and digital safety:

    “There’s so many ancillary benefits that come from putting in reps… communicating, talking to people—it’s really good for kids as a skill. But I would almost rather see them podcast for that reason and just without the video side.” — Travis [11:09]

  • The downside of online exposure for minors, with new AI risks and exploitative “family vlogging.”
  • Travis is cautious:

    “I’m not ever going to push them in that direction at all… I feel very torn on the topic.” — Travis [13:52]

  • Eric notes recent legal trends (CA law locking a portion of vlogger-kid earnings until adulthood, “family vloggers” relocating to avoid regulation) and the ethical pitfalls.

5. The Money-Making “Muscle”: How to Build It

• Transition to actionable advice for listeners lacking confidence in earning ability [16:08–21:14]:
  • Eric asks: How can someone develop that “muscle” of knowing they can always generate income?
  • Travis’s formula:
    • It’s about “skill development.” Pick an in-demand, high-paying skill (e.g., sales, digital marketing, creative work).
    • Example of his own fallback:

      “If it all came crashing down tomorrow... I would just go get a sales job... I know that next year, I could pull a quarter million dollars or more just selling stuff for other people.” — Travis [17:29]

    • If you hesitate to invest in yourself, it’s probably because you don’t trust your ability to “replace the money.”
    • Advice for young people: prioritize learning skills that are always in demand, rather than focusing only on credentials:

      “Don’t worry about degrees and certifications as much as you worry about learning a real skill that you know is going to be in demand.” — Travis [19:27]

    • Find roles where your time makes you more money than entry-level or minimum-wage work can ever provide.

6. Mindset and Language of Financial Winners

• [21:45–22:39] Eric observes that people who control their money “just speak differently about it.”
• Travis notes “the language [Bateman] was using is very evident in the results that he has: relationship, building the muscle, changing mindset, holding anxiety and confidence at the same time…” [21:45]
• Hard work and discipline, not just luck or background, allow Bateman (and by example the listener) to create opportunity.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There was also this early muscle that I kind of developed where I knew I could generate money.”
  — Jason Bateman [03:01]

• “If you treat [money] like an object, it will treat you like an object... You’ve got to build a relationship with money.”
  — Travis [06:17]

• “Money is a tool. You can use that tool to do damage or you can use it to build an amazing life.”
  — Travis [07:20]

• “If it all came crashing down tomorrow... I would just go get a sales job... I know that next year, I could pull a quarter million dollars or more just selling stuff for other people.”
  — Travis [17:29]

• “Don’t worry about degrees and certifications as much as you worry about learning a real skill that you know is going to be in demand.”
  — Travis [19:27]

• “Before your money can make you money, your time has to make you money.”
  — Travis [20:00]

• “People that have control over their money just speak about it... The language that [Bateman] was using is very evident in the results that he has.”
  — Travis [21:45]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:56] — Jason Bateman discusses money, anxiety, and confidence as a child actor
• [05:10] — Travis explains seeing money as a relationship and mindset shift
• [08:33] — Child actors, social media, and parenting dilemmas in the digital age
• [11:09] — Travis on kids building creative skills while maintaining privacy
• [16:08] — How to build the "money-making muscle"; advice for non-entrepreneurs
• [17:29] — Travis describes his personal fallback plan and confidence in sales skill
• [19:27] — Skip credentials, focus on real-world, in-demand skill-building
• [21:45] — The distinctive language and mindset of financial winners

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Podcast Tone & Style

• Conversational and candid, with humor woven throughout
• Tough-love, practical advice free from financial shame or pressure to be ultra-wealthy
• Relatable stories mixed with real-world, actionable strategies
• Encouraging listeners to invest in themselves, build skills, and take risks

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Actionable Takeaways

• Think of money as a relationship, not just a tool or object—respect and direct it intentionally.
• Build an in-demand skill as early as possible; that skill gives you confidence and career security.
• If you want to make more money, identify skills that pay well and are always in demand, then immerse yourself in environments where you can grow those skills.
• Encourage young people to gain real-world experience in skills, not just chase credentials.
• Approach digital exposure for kids with caution, balancing the developmental benefits against very real risks.
• Recognize that agency and mindset are just as important as luck or starting point in creating financial opportunities.

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For more money-making insights and practical encouragement, listen daily to the Travis Makes Money podcast.

Transcript

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[Travis]

You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet. Just go to gohighlevel.com travis. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast, where it's our mission to help you make more money on this episode of the show. My producer, Eric is in studio. What's up, Eric?

[Eric]

I feel like you're being so disingenuous with your introduction.

[Travis]

Why?

[Eric]

Because I don't think you're excited about this at all.

[Travis]

I'm beyond excited. You just came in in a feisty mood today. The first thing I said to you was something very complimentary about your weight loss journey. And then you were.

[Eric]

See, I don't even like that you're

[Travis]

saying, unlike you, fatso.

[Eric]

I didn't say that.

[Travis]

You said fat ass.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

I don't know if that's better.

[Eric]

I think that's worse. I have lost a significant amount of weight.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

And it is noticeable. And my pants. Look at my pants.

[Travis]

There's some loose ass pants.

[Eric]

Look.

[Travis]

Yeah, it fits your arm inside of them. You should probably get some new pants.

[Eric]

I can fit it up to my forearm.

[Travis]

You should get.

[Eric]

Which is what you say at parties,

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[Travis]

Off the rails immediately.

[Eric]

Hey, guys, check out what I can do.

[Travis]

There's like a mark.

[Eric]

I can take it up to my wrist.

[Travis]

I have a sharpie on my arm.

[Eric]

You have a notch and. Okay. I'm so sorry, everybody. Anywho, anyway, I have a clip from Jason Bateman.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Eric]

That I'd like to show you.

[Travis]

Is that where that is this worth came from?

[Eric]

Is any of this worth it? I don't know. Did we already ruin this episode?

[Travis]

All right, Jason Bateman.

[Eric]

I feel like we have a good episode going. Okay, let's do it. We already messed up. So Jason Bateman was on the Good One podcast. You ever listen to them?

[Travis]

No.

[Eric]

I do.

[Travis]

What's the Good One?

[Eric]

It's like a podcast where they talk to comedians.

[Travis]

Oh, okay. Never heard of that.

[Eric]

No, it's a. It's a podcast. I think it's from Vulture.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Eric]

The magazine. Are they still a magazine? Anyway. But they interview, like, a lot of comedians. But there's. They're. They're definitely more like. They're like, more political, lefty leaning. So, like, they'll talk about, like, current issues and stuff, but, like, it's like they interview like, a Marc Maron and talk about, like, you know, crafting a joke, but also talk about, like, the commentary and the jokes and. But it's a very good show, I think, and it's not, like, obnoxious in its politics, I guess, but that's subjective. But anyway, they interviewed Jason Bateman and talked a little bit about money. Sweet. I thought you'd like to know about it. Here we go.

[Travis]

Curious about your shifting relationship to money versus the passion of it.

[Jason Bateman (clip)]

It is an interesting subject for me personally, only because, you know, I had a complicated relationship with it growing up because both my parents were my manager. And so there was, you know, what I made was very helpful to our bottom line. And so there was a great deal of pressure to kind of, you know, like, don't get fired. You know, and if you don't keep a C average in school, you don't get your work permit and you're fired. And it's every six months, that work permit needs to get renewed. And the television season is nine months. And I was doing TV every year, and so it was rough. But as anxiety inducing as that was, there was also this early muscle that I kind of developed where I knew I could generate money. And so I was sort of not that nervous about spending money because I felt I could replace it. And, like, I have got some friends that are incredibly wealthy because their parents were incredibly wealthy and they were. They inherited a bunch of money. And they're the tightest people I know because they. They didn't make that money. And so they feel every dollar out, they're not going to be able to get back. It's like, I don't know if you guys have people like that in your life, but so there was a healthy part to it.

[Eric]

Yeah. So I thought it was interesting because I think a lot of times you hear the opposite, which is like, people that are born with a silver spoon don't think about money. Don't do it. And then his story being kind of like the antithesis of that. I just said that word in one go, and I ruined it by saying. By pointing it out. I always do that. I'll say Something in one go. And then I'm like, God, that would make a good point. And then I try to resay it and I can never do it again. Anyway. He's the antithesis of that and kind of comes at it from a more relatable perspective of like, I had to make all of this money and all this success that I've had. And so now I feel confident I can do it again, which is something I hear somebody talk about all the time, ad nauseam, one might say.

[Travis]

Yeah, I do talk about that a good amount, because I think it's directly related to your ability to pursue what you want to pursue.

[Eric]

Do you like the Jason Bateman of.

[Travis]

Of business podcasts?

[Eric]

Yeah. That's how a lot of people think about you.

[Travis]

If that were true, I would. It would be the highest compliment because I love Jason Bateman. He's so good. And you can tell. In that world, I feel like there really are those two groups of people, like the people who take full advantage of the business side of production in Hollywood and the people who are just there to get a paycheck. And clearly it ends up working out better for the people who just fully embrace the business side of it. Even some of the most silly, goofy people in that world are people who take that side very seriously, and they know it's a business, you know, and the bottom line is, if you want to be successful in any field, you gotta follow the money. You gotta follow the. Like. That is, it will give you a lot of hints and clues along the way that will guide you to a more successful career. I also like that he used the word relationship to describe money, because I don't think that that verbiage is common enough. I think if you. If more people thought about money as a relationship, then they would probably have more of it, rather than as just as just an asset, as just cash in the bank, or as like, this. This thing, an object. You know what I mean? If you treat it like an object, it will treat you like an object. You know what I mean? Like, so you. You gotta build a relationship with money. It sounds silly. It sounds kind of dumb.

[Eric]

Makes sense, I think. I think I could be described as having an abusive relationship with.

[Travis]

But that, I think, describes what? Like, I know you were saying that as a joke, but I think that describes a lot of people's relationship with money, is that it's an abusive relationship and they're shocked why money seems to leave their bank account all the time. And it's like, well, it's because you're abusive to the money that you have. So if you are less abusive, maybe the money would stick around a little bit longer. And it obviously isn't that, you know, cut and dry and simple, but if you start using that verbiage a little bit more, you might take it a little bit more seriously and, you know, treat the money with some respect and tell it where to go and what to do and give it a place to compound and give it a place to grow and use it as an investment. You know, it's. It's nothing but a tool. And you can use that tool to do damage or you can use it to build an amazing life for yourself. And obviously, Jason Bateman has done the latter and to a very successful degree in a field that's very difficult to do.

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[Travis]

And there's a lot of child actors who don't see the other side of that.

[Eric]

Yeah.

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[Travis]

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[Eric]

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[Travis]

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[Travis]

You know what I mean?

[Eric]

It's true. I saw a clip of Josh Peck front of the show. Yeah, I always forget that. I always forget that we interviewed Josh Peck, and I'll watch clips of him, and I'm like, oh, yeah, it'd be

[Travis]

so cool to have him. Oh, wait, we talked to him more.

[Eric]

But he had Hilary Duff on his podcast. Or she.

[Travis]

Or it was his podcast.

[Eric]

Okay. And she's like, oh, I'd love an alcoholic beverage. And then he was asking, he said, have you ever had some drug and martini? Yeah. And she's like, no. He's like, we were very different child stars.

[Travis]

Yeah, you're not the child star I thought you were.

[Eric]

Yeah, but no, I mean, the pressure. I mean, it makes sense why people crack with the pressure. Like he says, both my parents were my managers.

[Travis]

So, yeah, that's crazy.

[Eric]

Like, when you're the breadwinner for your family at, like. Cause he was. I mean, he was like. I want to say, like, 11 or so. I mean, the earliest thing I've ever seen him in, he was pretty young.

[Travis]

I was gonna say. I can't place it, but I know he was acting from a very young age.

[Eric]

Yeah, he was in Little House on the Prairie in 1981.

[Travis]

That's crazy.

[Eric]

How old was he in 1981?

[Travis]

Not very.

[Eric]

Cause he was also in. I think the earliest thing I've ever seen him in was he was in a pilot for a TV show based on the movie Psycho.

[Travis]

Oh, really?

[Eric]

Yeah, in, like, the 90s, and it wasn't good. He was 11 years old. Wow. So imagine, like, getting, like, your big break at, like, 11, and your family's

[Travis]

like, hey, we're gonna quit our jobs. We're gonna make sure to support your career at 11.

[Eric]

It. Cause I remember talking to. Not to sidetrack about child acting, but I was talking to Bethany Joylance from One Tree Hill, and she started, I think, earlier than that. And I read Jennette McCurdy's book where her mom was basically pushing her to act and was living vicariously, through which there's no shortage of those stories. But then Bethany Joy Lentz talks about feeling the pressure of being a child actor, but also, she loved performing. And so I was like, do you resent your parents letting you do it? And she's like, no, I loved it, and I'm so glad they let me because it led to all this. And I was like, it's so weird because as a parent, it's like, such a weird line of, like, your kids not understanding the ramifications of wanting to pursue something like that. Like, even. Even, like, can I start a YouTube channel? It's like, yeah, there's a way this goes really bad.

[Travis]

Somebody asked me about that recently, actually, on one of the. One of the trips we'd taken recently, we were hanging out with some friends, and they were like, what?

[Jason Bateman (clip)]

What is.

[Travis]

And she was like, you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but what is, like, your opinion about putting your kids online or letting them have. And I. It's a. I feel very torn about it because, like, so on one side, if they came to me and they were. They were genuinely like, I really, really want to do this. It would be hard for me to take something away from them that they really want to pursue and had some sort of a passion behind. I feel like I would maybe do it as a trial for a Period of time. Just like, maybe a bunch of unlisted YouTube videos just to see if they're willing to actually put in the work and learn and grow in that regard. And there's so many ancillary benefits that come from putting in reps. Like, even if you never pursue anything creatively, it's just communicating and learning how to talk to people and things like that. Like that are really, really good for kids as a skill. But I would almost rather see them podcast for that reason and just without the video side. Like, we'll capture the video for ourselves personally, but maybe just the audio would be better to release to the world or something. Cause it's just like you said, it's just. It can become a slippery slope pretty quickly in both versions. Like, if it goes poorly and if it goes really well, it's like, if it goes really well, you have kids, like, you know, Ryan's World kid who's, like, objectively famous now.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Travis]

Like, he is a child and set and makes more money than most people will ever see their entire life, probably including me. You know what I mean? Dude pulls in, like, 30 or $40 million a year or something from all the work that he does. One of the top YouTubers in the world. And it's like, even I would almost feel better about it if it weren't successful. Just because it's like, okay, well, you get the benefit of all these, you know, of researching topics and communicating and talking about things in an intelligent way. You get all that benefit. But you don't get the downside of, like, putting yourself on the Internet for a bunch of creeps out there who do creep stuff. And now with AI, it's even. Even worse.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

You know, there was a kid. We were on a family reunion trip recently, and one of my cousins was talking about her son, and he was saying that a kid in his. There's a couple kids in his class who got. He ended up telling on them, which good for him. But there's a couple kids in his class who took one of the girls in their class and put her face on naked bodies and stuff like that. It's just like, that type of stuff is what makes me go, like, you see Mr. Beast and want to be Mr. Beast, or you see Ben and Cam or whatever other YouTuber you want to put into the conversation and see what they're getting from it. And you go, that's what I want to do. But it's like, that's not only super rare, and that shouldn't be the reason that you don't do it. But it's also, there's so many other stories of it going poorly that I was just like, I don't know. I'm very torn on it. Like, I'm torn to the, to the degree where, like, I'm not ever going to push them in that direction at all. But if, especially because I'm a podcaster, obviously they ask questions that are more interested in it. But yeah, it's very. I feel very torn on the topic because I don't know if I would be okay with it and to what degree I would be okay with it. And maybe that will come out in the next few years as they get a little bit older and actually have some passion or desire of their own.

[Eric]

Yeah, it's tricky. No, I definitely, with the stuff I cover, it's like the level of lockdown I feel like I've gotten with all that stuff is so crazy. But the AI stuff alone has just caused such big cause. I mean, it used to be like people would post like, oh, it's bath time, and they put like a little emoji or something, and it's like some creep can remove that in like two seconds, you know, online. And it's just, I don't know. And like I said, this scale of it, like, I don't know that adults are ready for, like, the virality of social media, but it's. And I think it's why you're seeing countries that are like, going no social media till 13 or 14 or whatever, which I, I don't. I have a hard time being opposed to when it's way more dangerous than smoking or drinking. Totally.

[Travis]

It literally prohibits the healthy development of your brain, you know, and so like, even if they, even if I were like, hey, you can do this, it would be like either comments are turned off or you're not allowed to read through the comments or something like that.

[Eric]

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[Eric]

Yeah, it's. I don't know. Yeah, and it's also hard too because there's so many parents like here. I said we want to get sidetracked. But there's so many parents too that are like using their kids as like the workhorse. And the big thing recently that's happened is California passed a law where a set amount of the income has to go into a locked account for the kids to get when they're 18. And huge flood of family vloggers suddenly moved from LA to Utah and other places like that. And it's so gross when you're like, oh, it's because you don't want to give your kid more money from the thing that they're creating. That's like their time and effort and it's. Yeah, it's just rough. But anyway, all that to say it makes sense why some people snap. It's cool that he sees a positive in being allowed to work and obviously was passionate about it from an early age. But one of the things I want to talk about is he describes it being a muscle. He said, I developed a muscle where I knew I could generate money. I just was curious if someone's listening and they're going, I feel the anxiety part, like, oh, I have to make money. But they don't have that muscle developer. They feel confident to say I can generate more money. Like how do you recommend people like work out that specific muscle?

[Travis]

Yeah, it's just, it's, it comes down to skill. You.

[Eric]

That's what I've been missing all this time.

[Travis]

It's the nurturing and development of a skill that allows you to go out and get money. And we talked about this a couple times on the show. Like for me it's sales, for you it's videography, photography, stuff like that. It's, it's something creative. Yeah, because like, look, I know that regardless of what happens in my business or the podcast or whatever, if it all came crashing down tomorrow, I know exactly what I would do do. I would just go get a sales job. And I know that if I worked for a decent company that paid decent commissions that next year I could pull a quarter million dollars or more. Just Selling stuff for other people. Like, it would, it would take me a year to recover completely financially from all the risks that I'm taking. And that gives me the confidence to be able to go take more risk. If you feel an aversion to investing your money, especially into yourself and not just the markets or a house or something like that, if you feel an aversion to investing into yourself, it's probably related to the fact that you don't know how you're going to replace the money in your bank account. And it's always going to keep you frozen from being able to take advantage of potential opportunities. So you, you gotta, you gotta develop that muscle as early as you can. And it, you know, obviously does not have to be in child acting or starting a YouTube channel or something, but sales marketing. Like, I had a conversation with my, one of my younger cousins as well. It's actually my cousin's kid who's, he's the oldest of the, of the great grandkids in the family and he's 22 now and was, you know, thinking about nursing school and, and he worked on the oil rigs for a few months and he's just like trying testing some things and he was asking me some questions about it. And that was exactly my advice to him, was like if you, because he had sort of like a leaning into the marketing space and was thinking about a little bit and I was just like, look, if that's something that at all interests you, then I highly recommend just going and finding a company, a digital marketing agency that you can work for, do whatever you can at the beginning. Get their coffee, shine their shoes, pick up their dry cleaning, whatever. It's just a matter of getting your foot in the door so you can learn the skill over the next few years. Because it's a skill that nobody can take away from you. And it's a skill that will always be in demand because all businesses need more leads and there will always be work for you in that world. But it was more just like, don't worry about like degrees and certifications as much as you worry about learning a real skill that you know is going to be in demand that people are going to want and, and they're, and they're willing to pay you higher price than normal for that particular skill set.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

You know what I mean? Versus like, well, I know how to, you know, clean the fryers at the fast food restaurants. Like, okay, well that is technically a skill, but, but you know, you're probably only ever going to get paid 12 to 20 bucks an hour to do that task. So find skills that pay better, learn those skills, and go get around people who have the opportunities to present to you that give you the ability to exercise that skill and have an outsized return on your time. Because before your money can make you money, your time has to make you money. You know what I'm saying? Like, it had. Like, it's not a question of what comes first, chicken or the egg type of a thing. It's like, no, this actually comes first. You have to. Your ability to earn income so that you can have enough excess income where it actually benefits you to start putting that money away versus just barely skating by on a career field that just doesn't make you that much money. But, yeah, flexing that muscle really early on I think is really important. Any sort of entrepreneurial venture that your kid can get involved in is probably a really good thing for them in the future.

[Eric]

All this talk of flexing your muscles, I mean, you're just speaking my language.

[Travis]

Speaking the gym rat language like you speak now.

[Eric]

Yeah, you know me. Anyway, I was trying to find. I was trying to find this note, and I feel like it just mysteriously vanished, but I had a note I wanted to share, but I don't know where it is. Okay, so how's that for you? That's really good stuff.

[Travis]

Yeah, thank you.

[Eric]

I like that. No, I thought that specifically when I heard that and you said the muscle of doing it, I was like, Travis. Yeah, well, this feels like a Travis thing. I think he listens to you, actually.

[Travis]

What's funny is that people that have control over their money just speak. Speak about it. Like, he only talked for, like, we listened to what, like, 60 seconds? But like you said, the language that he was using is very evident in the results that he has, which is that he talked about it's a relationship, and he talked about building the muscle, and he talked about changing his mindset, and he talked about holding anxiety and confidence at the same time. You know what I mean? All those things that he experienced early on that he was able to take into his career, that obviously made him extremely successful at what he does.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

So, yeah, I mean, lucky. Lucky for him, and maybe not lucky. Maybe just hard work and dedication and discipline for him and said that he didn't get sucked into the normal trappings of. Of childhood acting, but, yeah, he can. You know, you. You can all. You can always make the best out of the situation instead of the worst of the situation. And he definitely did that. So.

[Eric]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Travis]

Anyway, anything that Jason Bateman does. Go check it out. He has. I don't know how new it is now. It's maybe a year or two old. But there's a great limited series with him and Jude Law on Netflix that I watched recently. I think it's called Black Rabbit or something like that. Fantastic. Sort of the one of the few times you see Jason Bateman's like dark, you know, drama acting side, which he nails just as well as he does with the comedy stuff that he does. But yeah, fantastic, fantastic series. Anything from Jason Bateman?

[Eric]

I'll watch the Gift 2015. You need to watch that.

[Travis]

Never saw that either.

[Eric]

You need to watch it.

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[Eric]

Right now.

[Travis]

Fine. Okay, well, let's sign off then. Thanks for tuning in for this episode of the show. Remember, money only solves problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of problems of money in the bank. So let's start there. Here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. Catch you next time. Peace.

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