CO-HOST | Make Money by Leveraging Opportunity (Even When the Pay Is Low)

Summary

Podcast Summary: "CO-HOST | Make Money by Leveraging Opportunity (Even When the Pay Is Low)"

Podcast: Travis Makes Money
Host: Travis Chappell
Co-Host/Producer: Eric
Date: May 3, 2026

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode explores the hidden truth behind making money by seizing unconventional opportunities—even when the direct payout seems low. Using the iconic "Jackass" film franchise as a lens, Travis and Eric discuss how leveraging exposure, personal branding, and platform opportunities can (sometimes) matter more than immediate cash. Their candid conversation weaves together real numbers from the "Jackass" universe and broader lessons about monetizing opportunities most people overlook or dismiss.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Economics of Jackass: Per-Stunt to Per-Episode Pay

• [04:20]—[06:22]
  Eric explains the evolution of pay for "Jackass" cast members:
  • MTV Era: Cast were paid per stunt, not per episode.
    • Low-impact gags: ~$200
    • Dangerous stunts: ~$500
    • Steve-O made under $1,500 for the entire first season after taxes

    “Steve-O said he made under $1,500 after taxes for the entire season. That’s crazy, crazy stuff.” — Eric [05:11]

  • Later Seasons: Switched to per episode pay (~$2,000 per episode; 16 episodes ordered).
  • Even with these bumps, for the amount of risk and injury, the payout remained shockingly low by today’s standards.

2. Leveraging Opportunity When the Money Is Small

• [09:14]—[10:33]
  The hosts discuss how being on a major MTV show was worth more than the paycheck for some:

  “There was a lot more value in getting on MTV back in the day...if you had the mind to turn it into something else.” — Travis [10:15]

  • Case in point: Steve-O made his real money touring and podcasting because he became a personality via "Jackass."
  • Modern take: Sometimes you have to do the work for less at first, if your goal is to create leverage for bigger future opportunities.

3. Residuals and Hollywood Economics

• [06:26]—[07:59]
  Most "Jackass" cast members don’t receive residuals from syndication.

  “Steve-O has confirmed the cast gets nothing from the show’s global syndication.” — Eric [06:45]

  • For movies, the back-end payment is tied to billing order: Knoxville > Bam > Steve-O > others.
  • Despite movies making tens of millions over tiny budgets, even starring actors waited on "Hollywood accounting" for their share.

  “He said he was still waiting on back end payments, because payouts flowed in billing order. A little Hollywood accounting right there.” — Eric [07:51]

4. Risk, Reward, and the Cost of Fame

• [08:12]—[10:34]
  The crew reflects on the physical pain and long-term damage versus fleeting compensation.

  • Life-changing money? Not for non-principal actors. Most get only “a little taste, a little sniff.”

  • Notable Quote:

    “Steve-O described the movie back ends as a ‘little taste, a little sniff’—meaningful but not life-changing for non-principal actors.” — Eric [08:12]

  • Bam Margera: Used his first movie check (~$5,000) as a down payment for real estate—proof you can parlay small windfalls into something bigger.

  • A key mindset: Some people leverage small opportunities into massive wins, others don’t—it's about what you do with your shot.

    “You could become a millionaire off of $10,000. You can do anything. It’s not money that’s gonna get you there. Be creative.” — Bam Margera [13:09]

5. Pay Discrepancies for New Cast Members

• [11:52]—[12:37]
  New "Jackass" cast often get paid little—sometimes nothing—because the main payday is "being made into a celebrity."
  • Steve-O: “You cannot fault Jackass for not giving them tons of money...Anybody would want to do this.”
  • But: The notoriety is a double-edged sword, since not everyone actually uses that exposure to build something bigger.

6. Bravery, Stupidity, and Evaluating Worth

• [17:02]—[22:47]
  Travis and Eric pose hypothetical questions:
  • Would you risk injury and embarrassment for fame, or even for free?
  • How much money would it take for you to do a Jackass-level stunt?
  • Which would you pick: scary, painful, or disgusting stunts?
  • Eric recalls real-life examples—dangerous games from their own youth—that mirror the risk-taking for little or no reward.
  • Notable takeaway: The peer pressure is a bigger motivator than money for many, but adulthood brings higher standards.

7. Drawing the Line: When Is the Reward NOT Worth the Risk?

• [21:15]—[22:47]
  Steve-O recounts the only stunt everyone refused (Olympic ski jump+bounce house+500lb generator):

  “As soon as the risk goes from being like, 'Oh, I'm scared' to 'I might actually die,' like, I'm out.” — Travis [22:44]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the original "Jackass" pay:

  “Less than 1,500 bucks for the entire first season...after taxes was 10,000. I don’t think that’s half of 32,000.” — Steve-O & the hosts [09:17–09:57]

• On creative leverage:

  “It’s not money that’s gonna get you there. Be creative. Plenty of people have opportunities and still blow it, and people don’t have opportunity and make it.” — Bam Margera [13:09]

• On risk vs reward (the stunt no cast member would do):

  “We just were not willing to have that generator land on us and crush us to death, so the whole cast backed out.” — Steve-O [21:24]

• On peer pressure and youth:

  “No questions asked is the crazy part about being a teenage boy.” — Travis [20:06]

• On using opportunity to build more:

  “You could become a millionaire off of $10,000. You can do anything.” — Bam Margera [13:09]

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Important Timestamps

• 04:20–06:22: Breakdown of Jackass cast pay structure across seasons
• 09:14–10:34: Steve-O discusses turning Jackass exposure into personal success
• 11:52–12:37: How new cast members are paid with “opportunity” rather than cash
• 17:02–22:47: Hypothetical "what would you do for money/fame?" + Reflections on limit-pushing
• 21:24: Steve-O on the only stunt the entire Jackass crew refused to do

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Summary Flow & Takeaways

With humor, nostalgia, and a touch of irreverence, Travis and Eric dissect the hidden money lessons in the Jackass franchise—emphasizing that for many successful people, the first step doesn’t pay big, but sets the stage for everything else. The episode encourages listeners to be alert to leverage and opportunity, weighing the risks and rewards in work, life, and business.

Bottom Line:

Sometimes you don’t get paid much (or at all) for your first shot. But if you spot the leverage, play your cards right, and seize the opportunity, the “low” payoff can turn into something bigger. Just make sure you know your real price—and your real limits.

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Transcript

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[Travis]

You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis what's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast where it's a mission to help you make more money. Today on the show, my producer is here in studio to chit chat about a couple of things in the news currently.

[Eric]

Travis, you're a real jackass. No, I'm just kidding. There's a new Jackass movie coming out though, in June.

[Travis]

Thanks for clarifying that. You're just kidding.

[Eric]

There's a new Jackass movie coming out in June. We're gonna see it together.

[Travis]

I know you're a big fan, right? Sure, I'll go see it.

[Eric]

Whatever. Every time I every time lately I say, hey, let's do something, I feel like I'm just pulling teeth. Well, I feel like I'm in a Jackass movie and the sketch is getting my teeth pulled out. Have you ever seen that one where he has his tooth pull out? We're gonna watch it real quick. But no, I feel like lately I don't know what the deal is, you know, I'm like, hey, let's go grab a cigar. I today, let's go to the gym. No, let's go to hey, let's go grab cigars. And you're like, you text me, sure, I roll emoji. And then you're telling, you're saying in front of Jack. And you're like, oh yeah, we're ate cigars today. Sorry, like didn't care. And then I'm like, hey, dude, jackass, you want to go see it together? Share a popcorn or something? Like, yeah, we can do that.

[Travis]

None of this is true.

[Eric]

I don't know. They just heard it.

[Travis]

None of this is true. The only thing that's true about what you just said is that response to you asked me to go see Jackass.

[Eric]

You don't Want to see it?

[Travis]

Yeah, I'll see it. Jeez.

[Eric]

That's literally. Whatever. All right, well, here. Before we get to the episode, let's watch. I'm going to show you a video for audio listeners at home. You're listening to a man getting his tooth pulled out by a Lamborghini. So we're gonna go ahead and take a little peek there, because Travis hasn't seen it. And with the new Jackass coming, you need to be aware of the lore. Okay.

[Travis]

I don't think I've seen this one.

[Eric]

This isn't. I don't recommend this.

[Travis]

Look how he's holding his hand.

[Steve-O]

It's a Lamborghini.

[Bam Margera]

Is that me? Please open your eyes.

[Travis]

Look at that.

[Eric]

So. So again, if you're listening at home, there's a string attached from the tooth to the Lamborghini gets pulled out.

[Bam Margera]

Oh, my gosh.

[Travis]

And that's a crazy slow mo cam.

[Eric]

Yeah. Not something you should do.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Would you do that?

[Travis]

Would I do that?

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

No.

[Eric]

Man, that hurt me.

[Bam Margera]

Not really. What did it feel like?

[Eric]

I don't know. A lot of doctors.

[Bam Margera]

Dennis

[Eric]

shouldn't do that.

[Travis]

No.

[Eric]

You know, it doesn't hurt, though.

[Travis]

I got paid.

[Eric]

Well, I was gonna say, you know, it doesn't hurt getting paid.

[Travis]

That's right.

[Eric]

The stunt part hurts, but getting paid for Jackass doesn't hurt. So that was an intro to an episode. So we were sitting here talking. We were shooting the Breeze, just a couple of jackasses talking about the series. And you were like, how much those guys even get paid? And I thought. I started talking about it. We spent about probably 20 minutes talking about it, and then I thought, we should record this. This should have been recorded because we're talking about this. So.

[Travis]

So we know that the big guns are taken care of.

[Eric]

Yeah, they're taken care of.

[Travis]

Johnny Knoxville is.

[Eric]

Oh, he's just a different breed, swimming in the dough. So I'll give you a breakdown of how much they're making. Okay. Yeah. All right, ready? So, MTV era. So when the show first started, okay, the cast was paid per stunt, not per episode, which actually, I think is the fairest way to pay. Yeah, that's fair because.

[Travis]

But is it per stunt that made it into the episode?

[Eric]

That's a good question, because from what I understand, I think it's just some that were just done. Yeah. Steve O. Said he was paid $500 per dangerous bit and $200 per low impact gag. So I'm guessing a low impact gag is, like, when they dress up like old guys and walk around like no pain involved. He said he made under 1500 dollars after taxes for the entire season. That's crazy, crazy stuff.

[Travis]

That was also when it meant something to be on MTV, right?

[Eric]

Yeah. They were bumped to $2,000 an episode, so after that, they switched episodes. Bump to 2000.

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[Eric]

Dollars per episode for seasons two and three, which was 16 episodes ordered together.

[Travis]

I mean, that's a massive pay raise.

[Eric]

Yeah. So Steve O said he made 10k after taxes paid up front. Bam Margera reportedly negotiated a better deal early because he came in with his existing brand as leverage. And then guess how much they get in residuals, though.

[Travis]

That's a good question. I don't know.

[Eric]

Steve O has confirmed the cast gets nothing from the show's global syndication.

[Travis]

Really?

[Eric]

Yep. They get nothing from the mtv, which. That sucks. Imagine just having scars like, I don't get paid for this anymore. In the movie era, the paydays climbed. Exact figures were never publicly disclosed. But back end was structured by billing order. So Knoxville got the most, Bam got the second most, and Steve O got the third most. And then everybody else. I'll give you the. Just to give you a little taste, how much movie's made? Jackass, the movie was made on a shoestring 5 million dollar budget.

[Travis]

This is the first one.

[Eric]

Yeah. And it made $80 million in the box office.

[Travis]

Geez.

[Eric]

Jackass number two had an 11 million budget and that made it $85 million on the box office. Jackass 3D had a $20 million budget and made $172 million at the box office, which is crazy. And then Steve O told Howard Stern in 2011. So, year after Jackass 3D came out. He said he was still waiting on back end payments because payouts flowed in billing order. So I'm guessing, I don't know how that would.

[Bam Margera]

Huh.

[Eric]

What does that mean? That means they paid John Oxfill year one and then, yeah, slowly paid them out. A little Hollywood accounting right there. Yeah, exactly.

[Travis]

And that would suck when you know how much pain you physically endure to

[Eric]

put that product together permanently.

[Travis]

You know that the budget was 20 million and they made $178 million on it and you're like waiting for your back end.

[Eric]

$25,000 check y. Steve O' Lear described the movie Back ends as a little taste, a little sniff. Meaningful, but not life changing for non principal actors.

[Bam Margera]

Wow.

[Eric]

Jackass Forever had a $10 million budget. I think hot take. Jackass Forever is my favorite one. Wow. Just saying it out there. Just watched it again last month. Whenever I'm sad, I watch Jackass. It's just like immediately that goes on.

[Travis]

So you watch Jackass a lot?

[Eric]

I watch jackass every day. $10 million budget, $80 million worldwide box office. Bam Margera has publicly stated his deal was $5 million per movie before he was dropped for Forever. And then Steve O. Is the second highest paid performer. But exact, exact amount there is not, is not shown. So anyway, yeah, they're making some money. I got a, I got a little clip here from Graham Stephan of the Iced Coffee Hour talking to Steve O about how much money he made. Let's see if he says exactly what I just read. I haven't watched this clip yet. He'll probably say exactly what I just said. Let's see what he says. You ready?

[Travis]

I'm ready.

[Eric]

Let's do it.

[Travis]

How much did you make from jackass?

[Steve-O]

Less than 1,500 bucks for the entire first season. I got a call that the show really was a major hit and that MTV was going to purchase seasons two and three at once. They said, because it's a hit, we know we have to pay you and that's why we're going to give you 2,000 bucks per episode. And I remember thinking, wow, 2,000 times 16 is 32,000. Like, wow. And after taxes, which they took out. Yeah, half of $32,000 after taxes was 10,000.

[Eric]

I don't think half.

[Travis]

How much did you. Yeah, that doesn't sound.

[Eric]

I don't think that's half of 32,000.

[Travis]

Even if it's a full 16,000, it's still crazy considering the amount of physical torture Steve O. Subjected him to over the course of 32 episodes.

[Eric]

I have to imag. He makes way more from his tours that he does or 16 episodes than he does from the actual show.

[Travis]

Yeah, well, that. That's. That's what I mean by. There was a lot more value in getting on MTV back in the day, is that you could turn it into something else if you had the mind to turn it into something else. And now, obviously, he's got his own podcast, and he's a. I mean, he's a real celebrity at this point.

[Eric]

Yeah, right.

[Travis]

He's. He's. He's synonymous with the brand. I feel like if I think of Jackass, I think of Johnny Knoxville, and I think of Steve O. Yeah. At this point, I do.

[Eric]

I do have to watch this. This is a clip of Danger Aaron, who arguably gets it the worst every single movie. But he talks about the new Jackass cast and how much they're making. So I'll play this real quick.

[Bam Margera]

Those were different times, man. I swear to God. Like, we were all everyone back then. God, it's hot. Yeah, we were all. We were all just.

[Eric]

Yeah, dude.

[Bam Margera]

Wild. Like, you know.

[Steve-O]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

Now, like, we've got, you know, younger.

[Eric]

The.

[Bam Margera]

The. The. The. The new crew of Jackass, and, yeah, they cannot do what we did back then because what we did back then was us doing it now. Times are different. And you. You, like, you can't really. You can come in with us and hang out with us, but let's not try to recreate with the things that we used to do, because those things aren't doable anymore.

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Right.

[Steve-O]

Well, especially because, like, that was so

[Eric]

boomer of him to say these new. These new kids don't want to do stunts. They don't want to do stunts.

[Travis]

They don't want to murder themselves for no money.

[Eric]

Back then, we could do it, and it was crazy, man. All right, here you go.

[Travis]

Sorry.

[Eric]

Here's the.

[Steve-O]

Like, you cannot fault Jackass for. For not giving them, like, tons of money, because the reality is people would line up around the entire fucking world to be in a Jackass movie for free. You know, like, it's like you're handing them a humongous opportunity by inviting them to be a part of Jackass, and you really don't have to pay them a ton of money to do it. But on the flip side of that, when we get these new people in the Jackass movie, we've essentially put them on this huge platform, made them into legitimate celebrities, and now they're in this terrifying fucking position where they really are not financially Secure.

[Bam Margera]

But we weren't either.

[Steve-O]

Right?

[Bam Margera]

Like, we were right.

[Steve-O]

You know, that's 100%.

[Bam Margera]

Let's be honest. But, you know, we did what we did. And you look back now, like, you know, like, you said, like, you know, Aaron, you have all this real estate. I'm like, well, I bought with the money I made on the first Jackass movie, which was like $5,000 or something.

[Steve-O]

And you got a loan.

[Bam Margera]

I got loan. I got a loan. Right then. I did.

[Travis]

You don't feel bad one bit. It's like, dude, you can make.

[Bam Margera]

Dude, if you had. If you.

[Travis]

You can.

[Bam Margera]

Dude, you could become a millionaire off of $10,000. You can do anything. It's not money that's gonna get you there. Like, be creative. Like, it does help to have money, obviously. And people might say, well, you. You. You know, you're. You had an opportunity, and, like, yeah, plenty of people have opportunities and still blow it, and people don't have opportunity and make it. So.

[Steve-O]

Yeah. I remember when we were filming the TV show, there was like, I was.

[Eric]

And you can tell he just filmed a bunch of gnarly stunts. And he doesn't feel bad at all for anything. He's like, I've been doing this for so long, and I'm in pain. Yeah, I don't feel bad. But here's. Here's. I'll let him play Steve O. Get their little breakdown one more time. But, yeah, this does raise a lot of interesting questions, though, about things when it comes to, like, choosing to pay talent for something where it's like, people. Anybody would want to do this.

[Steve-O]

Yeah.

[Eric]

So we can pay you, like, but also, like, that.

[Travis]

The right thing.

[Eric]

Should we pay you like this?

[Travis]

Well, especially when they're making so much.

[Eric]

Yeah. So much money.

[Bam Margera]

So 400 bucks a skit.

[Steve-O]

Dude, I was. I got 400 bucks. 200 bucks if it was a prank or, like, a gag, and 500 bucks if it was, like, fucking life and limb.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, no doubt. Like, and then. And then sometimes at the first. I think the first season, it was that if it didn't air, you didn't get paid. And then after that, it changed.

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[Steve-O]

After that second season, it was per episode.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Steve-O]

But, dude, when we were filming that first season, I was so broke. Dead broke, because all my money, whenever I got money, I owed it to the cocaine dealer.

[Eric]

Oh, God.

[Steve-O]

And so, like.

[Travis]

Well, you had credit with the cocaine dealer.

[Steve-O]

Yeah, I had credit. And whenever I got paid, I had to buy the coke. I already did.

[Travis]

But for the coke I own, that's

[Eric]

why I like Stevo, because it's relatable. You know, it's like, who hasn't been there?

[Travis]

That's like, what you do with your producer money, right?

[Eric]

I just. Yeah, I just.

[Travis]

I just have started sending it to your coke dealer.

[Eric]

Thank you. Just a direct deposit to. To him.

[Travis]

Cut out the middleman.

[Eric]

Yeah, dude, that's. Yeah, dude.

[Travis]

Because you wonder that with. Because, like I said, there's obviously a few people from that franchise who are set and made in the shade, you

[Eric]

know what I mean?

[Travis]

For a very long period of time. But there's also a lot of people who did a few stunts here and there and then got addicted to drugs and then, like, never did another thing after that.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

So I'm curious now, especially, like, with this last movie, is this supposed to be the big. The biggest budget of all of them?

[Eric]

I would doubt it, because this one seems like it's going to be kind of a clip show of, like, the best moments, plus a couple new stunts. I feel like it's probably going to be the lowest. One of the lowest budgets. Let me see. Jackass Budget was forever the highest one.

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[Travis]

Or no, three, you said.

[Eric]

I think three was the highest, but three, they went crazy with the budget.

[Travis]

20 million or something.

[Eric]

The second one was their longest shooting time. Yeah. Jackass forever cost 10 million, so I think the 3D was 20.

[Travis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Eric]

But I don't know how much the budget for this one is. It doesn't say anywhere.

[Travis]

Yeah, I'd be curious to see.

[Eric]

Jackass Forever was the second lowest budget movie, which is crazy.

[Travis]

Yeah, that is.

[Eric]

It's a good movie.

[Travis]

It was. That was the open. That was the Godzilla opening scene. Right.

[Eric]

It's kind of crazy.

[Travis]

But that was probably 30 of the budget.

[Eric]

Probably a miniature and extras, but yeah, that's. That's gnarly. Would you do a Jackass movie for free? They called you today.

[Travis]

No.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Travis]

No, not for free.

[Eric]

What's the price?

[Travis]

There's a. There's a price for everything.

[Eric]

Is there? Let me ask you this. If you had to do something for a Jackass movie, because this tells me a lot about you as a person, would you be, like, on the spectrum of things that they would want you to do? Like, would it be. Would you be more comfortable with A scary stunt where it's like, I have to jump off this tall thing. I have to do this. Would you rather do something that's just pain? Like, I'm going to get tased or shot with a riot guard thing? Or would it be something, like, gross? Or it's like you're drinking pig semen. You know what I mean?

[Travis]

Like, I think in order I would rank them as I would first probably do, like, scary stunt type of thing, and then second would do pain, and then third would be drinking Bolseme.

[Eric]

That's to, like, bottom of the list. That's honestly, like, when I would watch Fear Factor back in the day. Yeah. I was always like, I could. I could psych myself out to do the thing where I was like, hang on to this helicopter over the la.

[Travis]

Like, or even, like, sit in this tub with snakes or whatever.

[Eric]

Oh, no, I couldn't do that.

[Travis]

Really?

[Eric]

I'd rather. I don't know. But the last thing I could do is eat something gross.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Like, I literally could not do, like, when they blend the cockroaches and stuff. Like. Sorry.

[Travis]

Yeah. Yeah. That seems to me like the lowest on my.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

On my scale. Like, I'm not touching that.

[Eric]

I. I feel like there's certain things that I'd be like. Like, what about the tasing and all that? You. You wouldn't. Would you rather, like, say. Say you have to do. Let me give you a example. You got to be shot out of a cannon into over a lake or you got to be tased.

[Travis]

Shot out of a cannon.

[Eric]

Really? Yeah, really.

[Travis]

So just think that'd be fun.

[Eric]

Okay.

[Travis]

I would do that stuff.

[Eric]

First interest.

[Travis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Eric]

Because that's the thing about jacket is, like, I just. I feel like the stunts, if with. Especially with the peer pressure, because I think about being in high school and the stupid things that you do when, like, five guys are like, bro, jump off that thing. It's like, it doesn't feel scary.

[Travis]

Did you ever get those little gag gifts that were. It was.

[Eric]

It would electrocute shock pens. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Travis]

We used to dare each other just

[Eric]

to, like, hold it down.

[Travis]

Just like, now do it on your forehead.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

And, like, do it on your tooth or whatever. And it was like, we just do stupid. We literally put this salt in your eyeball.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

Like, why are we doing this? I don't understand.

[Eric]

My friend, one time we were pooping, and this is on brand for jackets. No. One time, me and my friend were pooping in separate stalls, and he reaches under the stall with the Foil that comes around. Big five gum.

[Travis]

Oh, yeah.

[Eric]

Or not big five. Big five.

[Travis]

Is the cinnamon one you're talking about big league.

[Eric]

No, the cinnamon gum is that big five or Big Red? Big Red. He says, lick this wrapper and put it on your forehead. And whatever it is, if you lick a big red rapper, you put it for it. It just leaves a huge red. Like, it burns. It's super hot. So I licked it, no questions asked. I just licked it, put it on.

[Travis]

It was like, no questions asked is the crazy part about being a teenage boy.

[Eric]

That was fun. And then we.

[Travis]

We do, like, paintball and airsoft and shoot each other. Like, me and a couple friends sat in a circle in chairs with airsoft guns, and we would just. Like, we'd be talking and hanging out, and one person would just shoot somebody, and then whoever shot that person would shoot the other person back, and then the other person would shoot, and we would just shoot each other. Literally. Like, we're not running away. We're not hiding behind things. We don't. We don't have any layers of clothes on. Just sitting in shorts and T shirts each other from two feet away.

[Eric]

Once you're empty mode, it's.

[Travis]

And then we go like. And then after we were all empty, we'd go reload and then sit there and talk for a while. And then somebody would just shoot somebody. We do it a whole thing again. It was like, why are we doing this?

[Eric]

The scar that I have on my thumb, this little scar is from when I was, like, really, really young. And we would joust on our, like, rocking horses, but we had the metal pieces that go on benches, and we would pull them up, and we'd just jab each other with them, and it just sliced right up. My. This is fun. Being a little boy growing up in the world.

[Travis]

It's pretty ridiculous.

[Eric]

Well, while we close out, I want to say, let me know if you would do this stunt.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Eric]

This is. Steve O. Says this is one stunt that every single cast member backed out of, which never happens. Okay, so here we go.

[Steve-O]

First time the whole cast backed out of a stunt ever. When we were shooting Jackass 3D, we went up to Northern California to film a bunch of snow stunts. And they had a big, big bounce house on a ski slope headed for this, like, Olympic ski jump. And the idea was to have the whole cast in it. Even though we hated the idea of our heads clashing together in the bounce house, we probably still would have done it, except for the fact that it was a huge generator which kept the bounce house inflated, which would have to follow behind it. And the thing was like 500 hundred pounds, I think. And we just were not willing to have that generator land on us and crush us to death. So the whole cast backed out, maybe.

[Eric]

Would you do that? That's a fair.

[Travis]

No, I would not do that. That. That's. That's what I'm saying. With, like, even with, like, whatever the snake stuff is like, to me, if I. I would. I don't like that situation to be clear. But if it's being produced on television and, you know, like, it's the safest way that you could do a lot of these things. So there's more things that I'd be inside of that context. But like, like he said, when you're introducing a variable like that that is completely out of your control, that could literally potentially kill you. As soon as the risk goes from being like, oh, I'm scared to. I might actually die, like, I'm out.

[Eric]

Would you.

[Travis]

I don't need to prove anything.

[Eric]

All right, last one. Would you do. Would you do that? Have you seen Kobe Bryant?

[Travis]

Yes.

[Eric]

Okay, never mind. I'll show you then. Yeah, okay, I'll show you then. Fine.

[Travis]

And I feel like you have to explain it to people who are listening right now.

[Eric]

Kobe Bryant jumped over a pool of snakes.

[Travis]

Yeah, that was it. Okay. Anyway, well, that's it for this episode of the show. Let us know if you go see the new Jackass movie. I guess. I guess I have to go watch it with Eric now. So anyway, that's it for this episode of the show. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank. So let's start there here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Catch you next time. Peace.

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