CO-HOST | Make Money by Not Leasing Your PlayStation

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Episode Overview

Podcast: Travis Makes Money
Episode: CO-HOST | Make Money by Not Leasing Your PlayStation (March 5, 2026)

In this episode, host Travis Chappell is joined by his producer, Eric, for a lively co-hosted discussion. The central theme is financial empowerment through smarter spending—specifically, why leasing consumer goods like a PlayStation 5 is a questionable money move. The pair dissect the pitfalls of financing non-essential items, debate the merits of subscription services versus ownership, and discuss the growing movement among younger generations to reclaim ownership of physical media. The tone is informal, humorous, and packed with practical financial insight.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. PlayStation Leasing – A Financial Trap?

[02:03-04:11]

• Eric introduces Sony’s UK "PlayStation Flex" program, allowing customers to lease a PS5 for monthly payments rather than buying outright.
• Lease terms: 12, 24, or 36 months—lower monthly payments for longer terms, but you must return the console at the end unless you pay more.
• Example prices:
  • 36 months: £13.58/month
  • 24 months: £14.32/month
  • 12 months: £19.91/month
  • Rolling monthly with cancellation: £26.60/month

[04:15-05:08]

• Travis and Eric poke fun at the leasing concept, likening it to renting a PlayStation for a pizza party.
• They confirm buying outright costs $499–$599, questioning the sense in long-term payments.

"The only way that makes sense is if you don't know if you want to buy and you want to give it a spin." — Travis [04:15]

2. Why You Shouldn’t Finance Small Consumer Items

[07:19-08:27]

• Travis draws a firm line: “I wouldn't recommend payments on anything that is like not a car or a house or shoes. That depresses me. Thinking that people are financing their shoe purchases is crazy work.” [07:21]
• They joke about the moral satisfaction of returning goods properly.

3. The Slippery Slope of Payment Culture

[11:28-13:13]

• Travis argues that normalizing regular payments for everything traps people financially, reducing career flexibility and building financial fragility.

"The trending toward just getting being okay with constant payments is what worries me because…people start just whenever the new threshold of payments is met. They just get comfortable with that new threshold." — Travis [11:28]

• Eric jokes about financing too many PS5s as a cause for drinking.

4. Subscriptions vs. Financing – Crucial Differences

[14:22-15:21]

• Key distinction: Subscriptions (cancel anytime) are not inherently evil, but financing (contractual debt on items) can be harmful.
• Travis highlights his use of YouTube TV only during NBA playoffs for a few months, then cancelling—an example of responsible subscription management.

"A subscription that you can cancel anytime is wildly different than financing an item that you've agreed to pay for over a period of time." — Travis [14:22]

5. Gen Z Turning Back to Physical Media

[16:10-17:02, 21:03-22:20]

• Eric brings up Gen Z's increasing interest in collecting DVDs and Blu-Rays, rebelling against "subscription fatigue."
• LA Times reports only a 9% decline in sales of physical media in 2025, reversing sharper drops from recent years.
• Physical ownership is seen as intentional, less brainless, and more resilient to content being removed from streaming platforms.

"Young customers cite frustration with subscription fatigue and content scattered across platforms, viewing physical media ownership as a form of cultural rebellion." — Eric [21:27]

6. Artistic Ownership and Loss in the Streaming Era

[22:53-27:46]

• Travis discusses how digital platforms can yank entire catalogs (e.g., Netflix unreleased Bill Cosby special; artists’ work vanishing if canceled).
• Eric laments lost media from the silent film era, noting 75–90% of films are considered gone; fears similar fate for digital content if services die.

"As an artist...it's very strange for him to now have these shows, these specials on Netflix and that at any time, they could just decide to drop it...your entire archive of work is just, poof, vanished into thin air." — Travis [24:41]

• The importance of distributed physical media in preserving art and culture.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Leasing PlayStations:
  “The only way that makes sense is if you don't know if you want to buy and you want to give it a spin.” — Travis [04:15]

• On Financing Everything:
  “I wouldn't recommend payments on anything that is like not a car or a house or shoes. That depresses me. Thinking that people are financing their shoe purchases is crazy work.” — Travis [07:21]

• On the Trap of Payment Culture:
  “People start just whenever the new threshold of payments is met. They just get comfortable with that new threshold of payments.” — Travis [12:12]

• On Subscriptions vs. Financing:
  “A subscription that you can cancel anytime is wildly different than financing an item that you've agreed to pay for over a period of time.” — Travis [14:22]

• On Reviving Physical Media:
  “Young customers cite frustration with subscription fatigue and content scattered across platforms, viewing physical media ownership as a form of cultural rebellion.” — Eric [21:27]

• On Creator Vulnerability on Digital Platforms:
  “It's very strange for him to now have these shows...on Netflix and at any time, they could just decide to drop it...your entire archive of work is just, poof, vanished into thin air.” — Travis [24:41]

• Humor Break:
  “I did something super moral the other day involving shoes...” — Eric tells a tongue-in-cheek story about not committing return fraud [07:36–08:16]

• Meta-Commentary:
  “I'm mad at myself. I don't like that. I just acted like we lost the plot. You should own things. That was the point. And I didn't get off track. That's all connected. You're off track if you're listening and you don't know what's happening.” — Eric [28:00]

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Key Timestamps

• [02:03] — Introduction of PlayStation Flex leasing program concept
• [04:15] — Travis on leasing only for trying before buying
• [07:21] — Travis objects to financing non-essential goods
• [11:28] — Commentary on dangers of constant payments
• [14:22] — Subscriptions vs. Financing differentiation
• [16:10, 21:03] — Gen Z physical media comeback
• [24:41] — Creators losing control of digital work
• [28:00] — Eric: "You should own things" thesis

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Conclusion: The Takeaway

This episode of Travis Makes Money delivers a clear message: Ownership beats endless payments. Leasing non-essential goods traps consumers in financial habits that rob them of future flexibility and security. Travis and Eric’s energetic, comedic banter underscores a deeper call for listeners to rethink the normalization of financing everything—arguing instead for intentional spending, financial resilience, and the value of physical ownership in a subscription-saturated world.

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Final Advice:
"Stop leasing PS5s and keep that money for yourself. And, you know, buy physical media and things like that."
— Travis [29:13]

Transcript

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[Travis]

You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast, where it's our mission to help you make more money. Today on the show, my producer Eric is in studio for a co hosted segment. What's up, man?

[Eric]

Hey. What's up? It's good to be recording Finally. 30 minutes after you told me to get to your house.

[Travis]

Well, that's how I like it.

[Eric]

I know you like to go like, it's like a power move. It's like, be in the office by this time. I won't be there. Or you'll say, we're going to, hey, let's do it till this time. And you're like, I have to leave 20 minutes into it.

[Travis]

I'm just like, oh, okay, this is like twice ever.

[Eric]

No. No.

[Travis]

Yeah, no, that's what I'm thinking.

[Eric]

No. You know the. You know that reality show where the theme song used to be don't be tardy for the party?

[Travis]

No.

[Eric]

Okay, well, you're the opposite. You are tardy for the party.

[Travis]

Oh, yeah, that's true. I'm late often.

[Eric]

So I have some good news for you. You excited for Grand Theft Auto 6?

[Travis]

Yeah, totally. I'm gonna be playing so much.

[Eric]

What's your game system you have right now? Is it gonna be able to handle it?

[Travis]

Probably not.

[Eric]

What do you have right now? An Xbox One.

[Travis]

Xbox One, I believe.

[Eric]

Wow. That's probably not gonna be good hardware. You should get a PlayStation 5 at least for that.

[Travis]

Okay. Or a PC gaming rig.

[Eric]

No, you should get a PlayStation 5. It's a segue. You should get a PlayStation 5.

[Travis]

I would love to get a PlayStation

[Eric]

5, but the big issue is you can't afford it.

[Travis]

What?

[Eric]

Right.

[Travis]

Why?

[Eric]

You can't afford a PlayStation 5. Right.

[Travis]

Because they're expensive and you shouldn't spend money on them. Yeah, we're getting there.

[Eric]

You don't Know how to buy a. You don't. How are you gonna get one? How are you gonna get one?

[Travis]

Is there some sort of stat around PS5s?

[Eric]

Well, the PlayStation 5 is expensive and, and hard to get, but you're in luck.

[Travis]

Travis, is it really hard to get? Still hasn't been out for a minute.

[Eric]

Yeah, but I think it is still hard to get.

[Travis]

But they. Do you think they did that on purpose? They engineered this probably.

[Eric]

But the big thing is it's super expensive, so somebody like you could not afford to buy one.

[Travis]

What's super expensive?

[Eric]

Actually, I don't know. I don't have that in my notes. But it was so expensive, I was like, why don't you need to look? Do I need to look up a Rolls Royce? You know What I mean? PlayStation fives are like 400 bucks.

[Travis]

That's not super expensive.

[Eric]

They're like 400 bucks. You can get one. We could DoorDash one right now. We could. There's some on target.

[Travis]

It seems like everything you were saying is just not true.

[Eric]

They're $400.

[Travis]

They seem to be available and a

[Eric]

lot of people think they're expensive. So if you're in the United Kingdom, Sony has partnered with Reylo, a London based fintech that offers leasing subscriptions for consumer electronics, to launch the PlayStation Flex program, which lets buyers rent a PS5 on a monthly basis without paying any upfront cost. Buyers can choose lease lengths of 12, 24 or 36 months. The longer the lease commitment, the lower the monthly rent, which the number one rule in negotiation is always focus on negotiating the payment.

[Travis]

Right.

[Eric]

For instance, the PlayStation 5 Digital Edition 825 gigabytes with a DualSense wireless controller is available for as low is 1358 per month for 36 months, 1432 per month for 24 months, and 1991 per month for 12 months.

[Travis]

But this is just a straight lease, Right. So you don't actually get it at

[Eric]

the end of it.

[Travis]

You have to give it back.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

Or they're going to charge you for the system, basically.

[Eric]

And the console is also available on a monthly rolling basis with the flexibility to cancel anytime, but at a monthly subscription of $26.60.

[Travis]

That's wild.

[Eric]

So I guess my question is, can you hand me your card so I can place the order?

[Travis]

The only way that makes sense is if you don't know if you want to buy and you want to give it a spin. Yeah, give it a spin.

[Eric]

Or if you're having like a big pizza party at your house and you're like, hey, let's get a PlayStation for the pizza party.

[Travis]

For a two year lease for the one party.

[Eric]

You know you do a couple pizza parties.

[Travis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eric]

Wait and wait. To be fair. Really quick, let me, let me find out exactly how much this version is because I don't want you to judge prematurely.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Eric]

The PlayStation 5. How much is the PlayStation 5 digital edition? 825 gigabytes with a dualsense wireless controller. It's thinking. It's thinking. Yeah. Oh, oh. 499 to 599 USD.

[Travis]

I mean that.

[Eric]

So, so do you want one or not? Do you want. Give me your card.

[Travis]

Well, I, I, I personally am. Okay. Although I do feel, I feel like Xbox was the incorrect choice. No, like was it not? I genuinely don't know.

[Eric]

Have you ever held a PlayStation controller?

[Travis]

Yeah, but like a PS2. I don't think I've played updates on PlayStation.

[Eric]

To me, the. Okay, let's do this. The GameCube controller is the most ergonomic perfect controller ever made.

[Travis]

I do remember the GameCube controller.

[Eric]

The Xbox controller is pretty good too.

[Travis]

Yeah, I like the Xbox controller.

[Eric]

The PlayStation controller is like the Nintendo controller with sticks hanging out of it.

[Travis]

Yeah. I just always avoided PlayStation for some reason. But it feels like they're like, are they not the standard anymore? Like I feel like Xbox is kind of like kind of failing. Although I think that might have more to do with Microsoft as a company.

[Eric]

Well, and Bill Gates and the Epstein files. Like there's a lot of layers to it. Let's talk about that for a minute.

[Travis]

Actually derail this conversation.

[Eric]

No, but anyway, so, But I feel

[Travis]

like real gamers have like PC setups anymore.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

You know what I mean? They've just set up their own gaming rig and just do it like that instead of going console because there's not really a reason to anymore. Right.

[Eric]

Can I say this?

[Travis]

What?

[Eric]

I actually think this might be a good idea.

[Travis]

No, you can't say this.

[Eric]

Wait, wait. Because here's, here's my issue. This why I don't have a game system right now. I got rid of mine like a couple years ago.

[Travis]

There's always an upgrade.

[Eric]

No, but it's cuz like I only get interested in like one game every four years and I'm like, I want to crank through that for a weekend.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

So like actually the idea of like 26 bucks and I could have one shipped to my house for a month, grind through a game and not just have this thing sitting here, but Isn't it?

[Travis]

But I would assume at least though, you're signing a contract.

[Eric]

Well, it says there's the one you can cancel any time if you do it on a rolling basis. And it's 26 bucks.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

So like, if I go, that's not a bad option. Like, oh, the new Grand Theft Auto comes out. I'm going to spend a month just, you know, not taking showers and just playing on this thing. It's kind of okay.

[Travis]

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. But if you're doing it because you can't afford to get the PlayStation, then maybe, maybe not do that. Yeah, that's probably ill advised.

[Eric]

So you wouldn't recommend this?

[Travis]

I wouldn't recommend payments on anything that is like not a car or a house or shoes. That depresses me. Thinking that people are financing their shoe purchases is crazy work.

[Eric]

I did something super moral the other day involving shoes.

[Travis]

What's that?

[Eric]

I bought a pair of shoes and I ordered them online from third party from Target. So they fulfilled from Target. I got the shoes, I tried them on, they didn't fit. The third party refunded me. I could have taken the shoes back to Target with the receipt and I could have got them to refund me as well. And I just gave them the shoes.

[Travis]

Wow, that's like.

[Eric]

I felt like I was like an Aesop's Fable type character, you know? What are you doing?

[Travis]

I'm looking for the applause button.

[Eric]

Okay. I was like, are you muting me right now? I felt. I felt really, really powerful in that moment.

[Travis]

Good for you.

[Eric]

So. And I bought the shoes. Decision all up front.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Well, good fellow. Here's Target 3rd 30.

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[Travis]

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[Travis]

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[Travis]

The trending toward just getting being okay with constant payments is what worries me because you start I think the I think a good portion of people don't like doing what they do for work or for a living. I think there's a lot of people who not who Are not.

[Eric]

I was just telling my wife this before. I was like, I was like, I got to record and it's really hard and I start crying and I took a shot of whiskey and I, you know.

[Travis]

Well, so you shouldn't have payments up to your total monthly income. You know what I mean? Because then you don't.

[Eric]

That was the other reason I was

[Travis]

drinking heavily because you have too many payments finance too many PS5s. Yeah, yeah, that's. That's really the problem.

[Eric]

I actually could only afford the PS3

[Travis]

because what happens is people. People start just whenever the new threshold of payments is met. They just get comfortable with that new threshold of payments, you know what I mean? Where it's like they're just on. They're on the iPhone replacement program and they just get a new iPhone every time one comes out. And they basically have just agreed to paying a monthly payment for their phone for the rest of their lives, essentially. Like they're never actually paying it off. They're just constantly paying whatever it is, you know, 50, 60 bucks a month just to continuously upgrade to the newest thing. So when, when, when you start going on that trajectory, things aren't going to work out long term as in relation to your finances. And then the worst thing about it to me is that it takes away all flexibility in what you can do for a living. It doesn't plan for anything out of the ordinary. And stuff out of the ordinary is always going to happen. There's always. Life brings you things that are outside of your control all the time. So the only thing that you can do is have some sort of a plan to be able to tackle those things when they happen. And getting up to your eyeballs and payments is quite literally the antithesis of setting up your life that way, which is probably why you're stuck doing something that you don't want to be doing, because you have.

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[Travis]

That was like the.

[Eric]

If you hadn't said anything, nobody would have known. I. That physically hurt to hold the sneeze in. It physically hurt holding it in. And I was like, I hope he doesn't address it because then nobody would know. But now everyone knows.

[Travis]

I had to address.

[Eric]

Was like silencer. It was like John Wick when they're in the hallway and.

[Travis]

Oh, man. But yeah, overall, this is. This is upsetting. This is upsetting news.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

That people are continuing to find more things to finance.

[Eric]

Well, you know what? People are shifting out of the subscription mentality though.

[Travis]

Are they?

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

Is there some other facts?

[Eric]

Just vibes. I just get that. No, I'm just kidding. No, it really is. Because I definitely, for a long time, was like, everything's a subscription. You know, like, whatever. And then I was like, it's probably not. The corporations are winning when. I believe that.

[Travis]

But also, a subscription that you can cancel anytime is wildly different than financing an item that you've agreed to pay for over a period of time.

[Eric]

True.

[Travis]

You know what I mean? Like, house payment, car payment, PS5 payment, shoe payment. Like, these are, you know, you can default on loans, it can destroy your credit. It can ruin your, you know, financial position, prevent you from being able to take advantage of. Advantage of a good opportunity when it presents itself. Whereas, you know, subscriptions are annoying, but it's also part of what life is now. And you can always cancel this. Like my. I want to say YouTube TV, one of my subscriptions, I literally have for, like, three months a year, just during the NBA playoffs, just so I can watch playoff basketball. And then as soon as the playoffs are done, I cancel it for the remainder of the nine months of the year. But you can do that with my. That's my. My point is to say that, like, it's not necessary. It's not necessarily to vilify all subscriptions and say you should never subscribe to any, is just to say that financing and subscribing to something are too wildly different.

[Eric]

I'm saying, like, having your, like, oh, my couch is a subscription. It's from Renaissance or my refrigerator. Yeah, yeah, I saw a video. There's a bunch. For, like, a minute. It was, like, kind of trending, but it was like, kids who grew up in Renaissance families, like, trained to turn off the lights and duck when someone would come knocking on the door. Until I get their couch. Such a funny. Such a funny thing. My other funny meme is when you're. When you get a new high score in Wii Sports and your parents are about to get divorced because of the real estate crash in 2008. Yeah, I like to see that one, actually.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

But anyway, so, James, Sports brings.

[Travis]

Brings it back. That's a throwback.

[Eric]

It does throw. It does throw it back, as it were.

[Travis]

As it were.

[Eric]

But no, in terms of just subscriptions in general, though, I talk about entertainment. I didn't expect to talk about this, but I want to. Gen Z is embracing physical media again.

[Travis]

What does that mean, physical media?

[Eric]

Like DVDs, CDs, Blu Rays. Yeah. And actually, this is a conversation like a couple months ago we had in our household because we were. Well, here, let me read you let me read you this. Gen Z, which is the generation I'm part of, almost in Gen Z is. I sound older when I say I'm part of Gen Z.

[Travis]

You're. You're a zillennial is what you are.

[Eric]

I don't like the millennial at all. Gen Z I. But see, I do have it in me.

[Travis]

Just embrace it.

[Eric]

Because I had a SNL skit come in my feed and I was like, I was laughing and I was like, this isn't funny. This is the millennial me thinking this is funny.

[Travis]

That's still funny. No, that's not how funny works.

[Eric]

That is how funny works.

[Travis]

I'm laughing, but this is not funny.

[Eric]

I was mad at myself. I was like, the Gen z is reviving DVDs and Blu Rays. This is from the LA Times.

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[Eric]

Gen Z is reviving DVDs and Blu Rays, with video rental shops reporting record months and membership numbers as young people embrace physical media. Physical media sales declined just 9% in 2025 compared to drops of over 20% in 2023 and 2024, making a dramatic. Marking a dramatic shift in a. We just did an episode on being a read. Marking a dramatic shift in a shrinking market. Young customers cite frustration with subscription fatigue and content scattered across platforms, viewing physical media ownership as a form of cultural rebellion.

[Travis]

I wonder if there's going to be like an update on that beyond like Blu Ray or whatever. You know what I mean?

[Eric]

Like, I don't know. I mean, the 4K, you just go

[Travis]

like, get a USB drive that has the movie on it.

[Eric]

But I mean, the 4K disks are. I mean, the quality is crazy on the discs. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing for me why, why we've talked about it is one, like, there is such an overload of just stuff.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Where it's like you have to filter through. And I feel like being intentional of going, like, okay, we're gonna put this on our shelf. This is like something that we're gonna do. And also, like, when you have kids, like, it's a lot less brainless. I feel like when you're like, here, I'm gonna put this thing on.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

I'm choosing to watch this.

[Travis]

Right.

[Eric]

You know, I, I don't know. I was more intentional and I hate, I hate when I want to watch, like, especially when you're watching a series, you're had this happen where you get through like the first three and then the series is pulled off of like HBO Max.

[Travis]

Oh, yeah.

[Eric]

And you're like, oh. Or three of the movies are on Netflix and two are on Amazon Prime.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

And it's okay because I do have both of those.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

But see, that's the problem. Yeah. I could buy the Scream box set or I can pay for Paramount plus and buy two digital copies. Yeah.

[Travis]

From the creator's perspective, I, I think it was Anthony Jesenik I saw recently talking about this. He was saying how funny enough it was in. I believe it was in the context of Netflix's first slate of stand up comedy specials that they bought. And Justin Nick was one of them. But one of the other ones in that was Bill Cosby.

[Eric]

Oh, they were going to relaunch with Bill Cosby as One of the guys. Yeah, I've heard this.

[Travis]

Yeah. Obviously, everything ended up happening with Bill Cosby around that time.

[Eric]

What.

[Travis]

I don't know if you heard about this. And so they didn't end up obviously releasing it, but they own it. And so, like, there's just an unwatched hour special of Bill Cosby sitting somewhere in Netflix on our servers.

[Eric]

Can we be honest? What if it came out in a couple years ago? I was going to say would remain

[Travis]

unwatched a couple years ago.

[Eric]

Bill Cosby isn't really relevant after the Cosby Show.

[Travis]

I disagree.

[Eric]

I mean, he just. Nobody, I feel like anybody think he was funny.

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I felt like.

[Travis]

I felt like a lot of people thought he was funny.

[Eric]

Who's the. Who's the guy that was saying there was some comedian. He was like, bill Cosby is never funny. And I. And it was Bill Cosby and somebody else.

[Travis]

That's easy to say after they've put themselves on the shelf.

[Eric]

No, it was before that. No, he was like, I never before that. He was funny before.

[Travis]

That would be crazy. I would not think that would be.

[Eric]

Bill Cosby was funny.

[Travis]

That's what you're searching for.

[Eric]

Yeah, there was a comedian. Maybe it was just somewhat. Oh, it was Bill Maher.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Eric]

Bill Cosby's funnier than Bill Maher, though, as a comedian. If you had to pick a Bill to spend the evening with.

[Travis]

I mean, probably Bill Maher. Yeah.

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But.

[Travis]

Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, so apparently they had recorded the special. They didn't end up releasing it. And Anthony Jesnik was talking about how it's very strange for him to now have these shows, these specials on Netflix and that at any time, they could just decide to drop it or you get whatever you get canceled for something, and then all of a sudden, your entire archive of work is just, poof, vanished into thin air. He's like, that is a really strange thing to come to terms with as an artist that they would have that much ability or power over. It's already owning the things that you've created.

[Eric]

It's already happened. There's already been series that have been completely yanked. Yeah. And it's crazy. There's. When you think of, like, all these companies that file for bankruptcy and stuff, it's like, what gets lost? You know what I mean? Like, it would be weird.

[Travis]

Like, data that just gets erased from existence. Yeah, yeah. Because. But that is a. That is a fair point, at least from the artist's perspective. Like, it was. It's. It's some somewhat kind of comforting to Know that, you know, there's 50 million households that have a copy of the DVD.

[Eric]

Yes.

[Travis]

You know what I mean? Like, that's. That's not going anywhere. Your ability to view the DVD might be more difficult.

[Eric]

That was what was so cool about the last, like, 30 years of media is like. Because I think the stat is like, 90% of movies from the silent film era are gone.

[Travis]

Wow.

[Eric]

What percentage of movies from the silent era are gone? Like, there's stars. Like, their whole catalog of movies is just completely gone.

[Travis]

Just vanished.

[Eric]

Yeah. 75% of movies from the silent era, roughly in 1894-1929, are considered lost forever.

[Travis]

I mean, it makes so much sense, but it's still a bummer.

[Eric]

Yeah, but even that. But even that. Yeah. Like, the Martin Scorsese Film foundation says it's closer to 90%. Wow. But. But, like, that was a period where you had physical media, but it was all in a studio vault.

[Travis]

Right.

[Eric]

Like, nobody else had it. So, like. And there was tons of fires because people would smoke. The nitrate film is super flammable. So it's like. But yeah. Now, like, I. Dude, I was trying to find a movie like, a year and a half ago, and I couldn't find it anywhere. And this dude. And this. This is. This is very nerdy. I'm married. I have a woman that loves me, but I was in this film group, and I was like, I can't find this. And this dude was like, I have a 4K film scan of the 35 millimeter print. I'll Dropbox it to you.

[Travis]

Jeez.

[Eric]

And I was like, that's cool.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

You know, but that's the kind of stuff. Now I'm like, what happen when Netflix goes under? And Stranger Things, one of the biggest series in history, just goes like, oh, it's on a shelf somewhere. You know, like, it's a very weird, weird time.

[Travis]

That is strange because it's. It's positioned as a pro, which mostly it is, but doesn't account for some of those sort of, like, Black Swan events that could potentially damage it. Do you see the Netflix lost the Paramount deal or the Warner Brothers deal?

[Eric]

Yeah, but it's pretty crazy. Paramount. Anyway, I don't want to talk about that.

[Travis]

Yeah, well, we should. Well, we'll talk about that.

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A future episode.

[Eric]

Because now.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Eric]

Anyway. But. But PlayStations.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

That's how we get there.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

You should. You should own things. Yeah.

[Travis]

You should not. You should not be purchasing anything that requires you.

[Eric]

I'm mad at myself. I don't like that. I just acted like we lost the plot. You should own things.

[Travis]

Yeah, I agree.

[Eric]

That was the point. And I didn't get off track. That's all connected. You're off track if you're listening and you don't know what's happening. You lost the plot, not me. Can you go ahead and close this?

[Travis]

I didn't give my caveat that the other episodes that we released today are better.

[Eric]

You know what would be really cool, actually? This would be a cool, like maybe like a lead magnet or something. We should record or take some of your biggest episodes and put them on, like, tape or, like, CD and do, like an ad. We'll send you the free copy on, like, cassette. I'll do that almost like an old giant.

[Travis]

One of the comedians on the cruise that I was just on had that. Basically, it was. It was like cassette. Something about that's. You could like, USB connected or something somehow. So you didn't actually need a cassette player. Because that's really like the biggest barrier at this point. Like, where are you gonna find a cassette player? But yeah, he had some sort of like a USB setup or something. But it was his special on cassette, which I thought was kind of cool.

[Eric]

Okay, well, go ahead.

[Travis]

Let me pencil that down.

[Eric]

Go ahead and press Stop recording on the tape here. And then we'll.

[Travis]

And we'll ship it to you.

[Eric]

We'll rewind it.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Thank you for listening.

[Travis]

Thanks for checking out this episode of the show. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of problems. Money in the bank. So stop leasing PS5s and keep that money for yourself. And, you know, buy physical media and things like that.

[Eric]

Download this episode. Because we could take this back anytime.

[Travis]

Anytime. We could just delete it.

[Eric]

Let's delete it right now. Yeah. If you're listening, you have 3 seconds to download this. Okay.

[Travis]

All right, that's it for this episode. Catch you next time.

[Eric]

This message is going to self destruct in 5. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

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