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Can I be honest with you, T?
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I would, you know, I'd prefer that. I'd also prefer you to stop calling me T randomly.
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I've always called you that.
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Always. Today.
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No, I was thinking about the Sopranos because he always calls Tony T. It was up T. So I thought that'd be funny.
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Tony.
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I know. Okay, just real quick, this is just for you. That's my. I was looking at my Google history.
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Oh, good.
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All right. Anyway, so I have a clip today from Patrick Bet David from valuetainment. And it's from the valuetainment Gen Z channel that they have.
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I didn't know they had them because Gen Z channel.
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Well, I've been talking to lots of the Gen Z kids and they're all like, hey, dude, have you been listening to the valuetainment? I'm stoked, bro. New valuetainment just dropped.
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Bro is the name of the channel.
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It's VT Gen Z.
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Interesting.
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Which I feel like is a turn off. Like it's. It's like, oh, they're trying to reach.
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Hey guys, this is for you too.
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Yeah, I don't like that.
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That is an interesting choice in naming the channel, but maybe, maybe it works. Maybe it works.
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It doesn't. Oh, no, I'm just kidding. I was gonna. You know what's not funny? Yeah, all of my jokes self burn, including that one. Anyway, so there's a clip from it that just happened to show up in my feed and I was like, you know, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. And it's not negative because I do sometimes find clips from Valuetainment to be very funny.
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Mm.
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Not. Not of their own. I've never. Let me put it this way.
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Not in the way they were hoping that you would find it funny.
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I've never found a single clip from valuetainment comedy to be funny. I found many clips from the main show very funny. And I feel like if they just said, hey, this has all been high level parody for a long time, I would be like, dude, spot on. High fives all around. Good job. Anyway, this is not one of those. This is VT Gen Z.
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Okay.
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I thought it was a very interesting answer from Patrick.
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Okay.
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And okay, wait. Tier list. Patrick, SpongeBob. Patrick from Valuetainment.
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Oh, Patrick.
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SpongeBob is S tier. Yeah. Okay. Patrick, valuetainment, B tier. Wait, did you put Patrick in S tier for spongebob?
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No.
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All right, anyway, here's the clip.
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I did it because he's a goated character.
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I felt like we were so, so on track until I started doing that and I started. I got lost in the bit. Yeah. Okay. All right, here we go.
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Let's hit play on.
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So this is. What should I do if I hate my job?
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Is the. Is it the only job you ever hated or do you hate all your jobs?
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Because I'm a numbers guy. How many jobs have you hated?
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All right, now let's double that.
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Okay? So he says. So the kid comes up, he says, what should I do if I hate my job? And then Patrick says, my job.
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Is it the only job you ever hated or do you hate all your jobs? Because I've met people that no matter what job they've had, they've hated. So it's not the job, it's them. I've loved every job I've had.
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So if I don't like my job, there's something wrong with me.
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How can you hate a job? You wake up in the morning, there are millions of people that don't have a job. You have a job to be grateful for. Now, the job may not be a place you'll be long term. It may be something that you're doing that's interim, but you have a job. Make the best of it. Learn something from it and find a way to take what you can from there. Contribute to the company so when you leave, they're going to remember you and say, that guy was great with us. Or two, you'll learn something. You go to the next company, do even better.
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What happens if I.
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You know what I always love with.
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I'm sure the comments love that.
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Let me just say Let me just say this. Clip editors, make the music louder. Make it so loud I can't hear a single thing.
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Make it so loud that I have to read the captions.
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You know what I love when I'm scrolling clips when I can barely hear the person and the music is making my eardrums rattle in my head. Yeah, it's amazing. I have tinnit from this clip.
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It's a weird choice.
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So loud. That's why I wear earplugs in theaters.
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That's a wild move. Here, did you watch. You watch the Mandalorian with earplugs on?
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I couldn't find my earplugs. I actually did have some, and I was like, here's what happened. I actually bought a pack of earplugs to keep my eardrums safe at movies. And then, like, now I can't find them. And so. But I. I went to go see Obsession the other day, and. And every time it would boom. I was like, damn it, my ears. So anyway, so okay, so what do you think of that clip, though? Cause I. I have my thoughts. I want you to tell me your thoughts.
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So I think that it is. I. I think he's giving advice that he knows is gonna be somewhat polarizing, but I also think that he's saying exactly what he believes, which is that the majority of people have a wild expectation of what their job should give to them, and they don't have any interest in thinking about it from the other perspective, which is, what can I give to this job? And what can I take away from what I'm learning here? But the question that he asked at the beginning, I think is important, which is, do you hate this job or do you hate every job?
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Imagine the kid interviewing him at works for Valley Tammy. He's like. He's like, do you hate this job? And the guy's like, just to be clear, this is a rhetorical. Like, this is just advice for the Internet. Someone else say someone. Say someone has a job working for a Gen Z media company, and they work for an Iranian business owner who sells insurance, just hypothetically. And they hate their job. And they keep getting enrolled to be in sketches with Vinnie, and they like. Or someone like Vinnie. All right, anyway, go ahead. Go ahead.
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No, that. That first question is an important question because I. I think that he's only talking to the people who have hated every job that they've had versus the person that's like, I don't normally hate my job, but I hate this job. And I think his advice Would probably be different if he was talking to that person. So assuming that he's talking to the people that hate every job, then I would say that he is absolutely correct in this advice. And like I said, I'm sure the comments were not very appreciative of this advice.
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What do you think I thought of this clip?
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I think that you. I think that you liked it ultimately, maybe with a caveat or two. But I don't think that you would hate this advice. That's where you're so wrong. Do you hate this?
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No, I don't. I actually thought it was good. Oh, okay. I thought that was a great question that Patrick asked. You could stitch that. You should stitch me saying that because I know you're always editing videos. If you said that right there. If you said, I think that was a great question Patrick asked, I would go and find like the craziest clip ever of Patrick saying that and then stitch me out of context being like, I love that. You know, like it's like a Terrence Howard interview clip and it's like, yeah, yeah, I love that. Patrick, great point.
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He actually had great points in that because Terrence Howard is.
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Yeah, he's.
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He's an eclectic.
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This is aggressive today.
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Eclectic individual.
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I feel like we're punching down today.
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He's great in Ironman though.
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Yeah, the first one.
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Yeah.
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Bye.
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Anyway, I love. I thought that was a great question. Do you hate your job or do you hate every job you've ever had? Because if you do hate every job,
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that is an important context.
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If you hate working in general.
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Right? Exactly.
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Then there's a problem you need to figure out with yourself. Okay, all right, all right. Here's my Can I say my thing Yeah. I think it's okay to hate your job. It's okay to learn, like, eventually hate your job. It's okay to hate a lot of things. My number one thing always. Tara would back me up on this if she was here. The thing I hate is when people complain about something that they're not actively trying to do something about it.
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Agreed.
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This is the number one thing. I said this. And this will sound. I can say this now. Now that I'm in my fitness era. 11 pounds down, by the way.
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Congrats.
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But I always said that about weight. It drives me crazy when someone's like, I just don't look good. I don't like the way I look. And you know this. I never did that ever. I never would come in and be like, I just feel so fat today.
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Well, and as soon as you did was when you did something.
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Yes. So. So I hate when people go like, oh, I feel so overweight. I can't breathe. I can't. I just don't have any energy. And it's like, go to the gym or it doesn't bother you or stop whining about it.
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Yeah.
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Cause it literally, like, if you hate your job, like, the fifth time that
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you're saying something about it, I have no interest.
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Yes.
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You know what I mean? Like, probably the fifth time you're saying something about it.
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I probably have said more about, like, I hate that I feel this. Now that I'm actually doing activities to go like. Like, there's times I'll be like, I can't believe I can't lift that.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That makes me mad. But it's because I'm actively trying to get better at doing that thing.
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Sure.
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Or like, oh, I hate that these pants are just like, whatever. It's like. But I'm actually doing something. And I hate when people complain about jobs and then they've been there for, like 10 years and I'm like, you could do something. You could at least find a job you hate less. So I think that advice is great. If it's truly the job, go find a different one. Appreciate what it is. Like, my last 9 to 5 job that I had before I decided to do, like, a 12 to 12am to 12am job that I have now. But the last 9 to 5 job that I had, I got to a point where, like, I hated going. And the people I worked with are great. Love them. But even my boss, I would literally go to my boss because we both did stuff on the side and I would literally walk in and be like, dude, he'd be on the phone, I'd be writing on the whiteboard, like, let's quit today. Let's go do our own thing. We could both do it. And, like, I got to a point, like, I hated it, but you know what I did? You know what I did? I quit.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But you know what I'll.
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That is within your power to do.
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And literally for, like, the three or four months that I was, like, working, I think it was actually, like, five, I was literally on lunch. I was literally texting Travis going, send me exactly what to say on a sales call to get a client to give me enough money to get out of here. And then I would do that on my lunch break. I'd be in my car going, like, hey, no big deal. If you don't want this, it would mean that I could leave this job. And then when I got to a point where I could, then I left. And you know what? And that was great. So I. I would say. I just. I would add, you are not allowed to complain about anything that you're not actively trying to change in some way.
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Something has to change.
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You can complain that, like, nobody knows who you are on Instagram, but only if you're posting every single day.
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Yeah, you can change the environment or you can change yourself. You know, like, it doesn't necessarily mean you have to quit the job, but then change your perspective about it. If you're not going to leave, if you're not going to do anything about it, if you're not going to work a side hustle, if you're not going to learn a new skill, you're not going invest in yourself. You're not going to go learn how to flip houses or whatever. Then you have to change your perspective, and you have to learn how to, like, the job. It's sort of like that thing of like, well, just write down on a piece of paper that I will never quit this job. Because if you haven't done it for five years, then what's going to change in five years from now? Like, it's either you're going to change it or you're not going to change it. So be comfortable, like, with the idea that, like, okay, theoretically, I. What if I. Because it's the. It's the hope that one day they might quit that keeps them in that milieu of just continuing to show up to work even though they hate it. It's like there's something psychologically powerful about just admitting to yourself that you're never Gonna quit and then being like, okay, if I were to not ever quit this job, what version of myself would I have to show up as in order to start liking it or in order to start at least tolerating it to a certain degree.
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Yeah.
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And then. Or it's like, change your expectations of what you're gonna get outta life. Like, well, just don't expect to be a happy person then.
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Yeah.
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Because if you're spending 50 hours a week doing something you hate, it's really difficult to be a happy, fulfilled person, like, with meaning and purpose. You know what I mean? Then, so, so change your expectations of what life's going to give you. Change your environment, change your circumstances. Quit the job, do something else, change yourself. But like, something has to change in order for the result to be different.
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Yeah.
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And you just sitting there complaining about it, whining about it forever and ever is like, that's just not like you said, I just don't have time for it. At some point it's like, yeah, I heard you. But like, you chose this, right? You are actively continuing to choose this. Like, you chose it once, and then every day since then, you have actively continued to choose this. So I don't want to hear the negative, all the terrible things about it. Like, do something different then. I don't understand.
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Yeah, that's the only other. Like, if I'm going to give a caveat. Cause why not? The only thing that I would say is I like the mindset of there's millions of people that don't have a job. You get a job, that's great. Because I think that's a good refresher sometimes. It's kind of the thing I always say when I see someone hauling rocks on the side of the road to do at 5 in the morning. And it's like you're sitting there and you're drinking your Red Bull and air conditioning and you're like, God, I'm glad I'm not doing that. You can have that perspective of like, oh, I'm doing something that people would kill to do. But I also think sometimes that keeps you in a place that's not great either, where it's like your manager comes in, like, people would kill to have your job. And it's like, yeah, but would I? You know? And like, I think sometimes people get stuck in like the. I should just be grateful I have anything instead of going like, what could I have? But let's, let's read some comments then. Because you think people are mad about this.
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I feel like people.
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I'm surprised because I thought this was like a very valuetainment audience.
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Maybe not answer, but I think people would be upset about it.
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Someone said, love the mindset. Gratitude and optimism always wins. Okay, I feel like I've seen this guy before, but I'm not going down a rabbit hole today.
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Yeah.
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But again, I feel like that's fair. What do you do that's fair?
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And like, what are you gonna do about it?
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Like, I get being like, I'm clocking in at this job that's paying minimum wage today. Yeah.
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With a boss that I hate.
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Yeah. But it's like, okay, what's the next step? Like, where do we go from here?
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Exactly. Like, complaining about it just does nothing. Like, like we said, like, it just doesn't do anything to change the situation. So like you can recognize that something sucks and at the same time do something to change that thing that sucks.
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Yeah.
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What's annoying is when you just constantly recognize how something sucks and then you never do anything to change it. And then you're. It's like, it's like the person blaming their parents for their lack of success and they're like 43.
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Yeah.
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It's like, well, listen, look, man, like maybe. Maybe they didn't give you a good shot. Maybe you had a shitty childhood. Maybe there's a lot of bad circumstances. And I'm not trying to downplay any of those things a Lot of people had it, you know, way worse than me. A lot of people had it way worse than probably the person who's complaining the situation. Not trying to say anything about that. What I'm saying is, like, at some point, point, you're gonna have to own up to the idea that this is now a result of you and nobody else. It's not a result of the system that you were born into. It's not a result of the parents that you had. It's not a result of the school that you went to or the student loan debt that you were saddled with. Like, at some point it falls on your shoulders. It was sort of like the thing that we talk about sometimes where it's like, when. When you're born, you look like your parents. When you die, you look like your choices. Or when you're born, you look. Look like your circumstances. When you die, you look like your choices. And it's like, at some point it's gonna switch. You know what I mean? And that, like, you can maybe. It was actually when I watched the doc, when I watched your documentary, Let Us Pray.
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What was the girl now on hbo? Max.
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Yeah. What was the girl who grew up in the. The home, like the group home.
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Oh, Amanda.
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Yeah. So that was one of those ones where it was like, that was a clear example to me of like, when you're born, you look like your parents who die. Like, your choices. Because, like, she was 14 or whatever. Yeah, 13, 14, 15. Actively being involved in some of the abuse that was happening in that home. But also she thought that was the right thing to do. Like, that was the only thing she ever Knew. She was 13 years old. She was only going off of what her parents told her was how life is supposed to operate. And she, in her mind thought she was doing the correct thing. But if she's 43 and she's continuing to do all of that, that's no longer a thing of, like, that you can just point back to and be like, well, my parents, they told me, I was like, yeah, but you've been an adult for like, 25 years now. So, like, at some point this has to switch. And for her, obviously it did. And that's the reason she was documentary was talking about, like, wrestling with the conflict in her own mind of, like, I was involved in this how, like, I feel guilty for my involvement. But also I was a kid being, like, just doing what I thought was correct or else I was going to get punished because that was the incorrect thing. So it's like at some point, it's no longer a result of society. It's no longer a result of inflation or gas prices or whatever else you want to point the finger at. At some point, you're going to have to take responsibility and shoulder the. The blame for what your life circumstances are. And the sooner you decide to do that, the sooner you'll be able to change. It's gonna suck at first. It's sort of that whole, you know, the. The truth will set you free, but first it'll piss you off. It's that idea because it's like, it sucks to just admit to yourself like, I am, I am in the circumstances because this is what I have chosen. Even if my past choices were a result of the environment or culture or whatever that I was raised in, and I didn't feel in full control of those decisions at that time. Okay, whatever. We're setting that aside because at some point, you're going to have to. Unless you just want to live a life that's less than for the rest of your life just so you can continue pointing at the finger at people. Because it just feels better to do that rather than pointing the finger at yourself and saying, there's maybe something that I could do about this along the way. Which is what. Which is what I appreciate about, like, Patrick's advice here, which is like, you ultimately have control over the environment that you're in and how you feel about that environment. So take the good things, do your best in that position, and then move on, do something different. And then eventually, like, you'll. You'll find that that becomes a pattern that you'll have the pattern of gratitude and appreciation and hard work rather than the pattern of, like, laziness and blaming and pointing the finger. Just being a victim of your circumstances.
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Yeah. Someone said. Spoken like a businessman who employs hundreds of people who hate their job. Interesting. Interesting. Someone says only privileged people hate their jobs. I'm a busser. This shitty job saved my life. I lost my old job, my girl, my car, my bank accounts. Dude. I want to know more about this family's respect and all my friends.
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It's like a country song.
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Almost ended up on the streets. One job as a busser helped me survive. The job sucked, but it was my chance. It was a lifesaver. You only hate your job because you're privileged enough to. You haven't experienced something worse than your job. Obviously, you have to hit absolute rock bottom. I was ready to apply for oil rig jobs. That pays way better than busing.
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It sure does.
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If you lost everything, just go on an oil rig. What else do you have to lose? It's dangerous, but it's fine. That's how low I was. You are all privileged, ungrateful jerks. Easy, pal.
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Jeez.
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Going in on it, easy.
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But that is a fair point, which is why I think that there's a difference in that immigrant mentality. That someone like Patrick coming from like war torn Iran to LA and being like, yeah, I think I could. I think he sold T shirts on the street corners of Inglewood for like his first business that didn't do anything. You know what I mean? Like, like, for, for somebody like that, the perspective is wildly different versus somebody growing up in the States and having parents that had good jobs or especially if, if their parents were sort of a product of the system.
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Yeah.
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You know, where it's like, well, they got their bachelor's and then they got their master's, and then now my, you know, dad's a doctor and my mom's a professor or an. Or whatever. And it's like. And then I did all those things and I'm stuck with this like, crappy, barely above minimum wage office job with a shitty boss who I hate and can't stand and I can't afford rent and can't buy a house. And like, they're looking at it from the perspective of like, I should have all of these things and I don't have them, whereas the other person's looking at it from the perspective of I should have nothing, but I do have this job and now I can, like, create something off of that.
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No. Someone said, don't love your job, job, your love. Have you seen that clip?
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I have.
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I want to watch it again. That's a good spot to close out.
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That's a really good one.
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The comments are always so funny on the, on the post. Someone said, don't face your fear. Fear your face. Don't die trying. Try dying. Someone said, don't piss in the shower. Shower on the piss. That's so good. This is a good one. We'll close out with this wisdom here. I feel like success is. And I've heard that from a friend of mine. He said, don't love your job, job your love. So don't, don't love. I love him. Yeah. And when he said that to me, that hit me and I was like, my business is me jobbing my love, basically, because I feel like he loves that. What a clown. The dude knew she made zero sense and played along. Don't blame the man. Man, the blame don't crack your fist. Well, you can figure it out. Yeah, yeah.
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I'm gonna put two and two together.
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Hey, Travis, don't. Don't close this out. Out your clothes don't crack your figure. Oh, no. Oh, don't judge the book by the COVID Cover the judge with the book. Oh, that's so good. Don't crush your face. Okay, good.
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Just too many thoughts. Well, that's it for this episode of the show. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems when you got money in the bank. So let's start there. Here on the Traps and Makes Money podcast. Thanks, Jimin. Catch you next time. Peace.
Podcast: Travis Makes Money
Host: Travis Chappell
Co-host: Eric (Producer)
Date: June 4, 2026
In this episode, Travis is joined in the studio by producer Eric for an in-depth, humorous, and candid conversation about personal responsibility and the realities of making more money. The show centers around a viral clip from Patrick Bet-David (Valuetainment/VT Gen Z), which prompts an honest discussion about job dissatisfaction, gratitude, mindset, and the necessity of taking action in your own life—especially when you hate your job. Together, they break down generational perspectives, critique social media advice, and underscore the importance of agency over victimhood in achieving your desired financial (and personal) outcomes.
Timestamps: [03:25]–[04:19], [10:37], [17:06]
Eric introduces a clip where Patrick is asked:
"What should I do if I hate my job?"
Patrick challenges the questioner:
“Is it the only job you ever hated or do you hate all your jobs? … So it's not the job, it's them. I've loved every job I've had.”
—Patrick Bet-David [03:45]
He emphasizes gratitude (“You have a job to be grateful for”), advocates for making the best of even mundane work, and insists on contributing and learning as much as possible—either to be remembered at your old workplace or to do even better at your next one.
“That immigrant mentality… the perspective is wildly different versus somebody growing up in the States and having parents that had good jobs or… were sort of a product of the system.”
[24:45]
“You chose it once, and then every day since then, you have actively continued to choose this.”
[15:42]
“I would add, you are not allowed to complain about anything you’re not actively trying to change in some way.”
[13:56]
“Change your environment or you can change yourself… If you’re not going to do anything about it… then you have to change your perspective and you have to learn to like the job.”
[14:04]
“Change your expectations of what life’s going to give you.… Quit the job, do something else, change yourself. But something has to change in order for the result to be different.”
[15:20]
“When you’re born, you look like your parents. When you die, you look like your choices.… At some point, you’re gonna have to own up to the idea that this is now a result of you and nobody else.”
[19:13]–[20:10]
“You only hate your job because you’re privileged enough to. You haven’t experienced something worse than your job.”
[23:18]
“Don’t judge the book by the COVID. Cover the judge with the book.”
[25:56]
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|--------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | [03:45] | Patrick Bet-David | "Is it the only job you ever hated or do you hate all your jobs? ...So it's not the job, it's them." | | [11:15] | Eric | "The thing I hate is when people complain about something that they're not actively trying to do something about." | | [13:56] | Eric | "You are not allowed to complain about anything that you're not actively trying to change in some way." | | [14:04] | Travis | "You can change the environment or you can change yourself… Change your expectations… something has to change." | | [15:42] | Travis | "You chose it once, and then every day since then, you have actively continued to choose this." | | [19:13] | Travis | "When you're born, you look like your parents. When you die, you look like your choices... At some point it's going to switch." | | [23:18] | YouTube Comment | "You only hate your job because you're privileged enough to. You haven't experienced something worse." | | [25:56] | Eric | "Don't judge the book by the COVID. Cover the judge with the book." |
This episode drives home Travis's central philosophy: making more money and building a better life starts with personal responsibility, brutal honesty, and the courage to make changes—even if they're uncomfortable.